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"Today we saw a heartbreaking invasion of a peaceful European country by a fascist totalitarian Russia, and yet in a tweet farage claimed this is “A direct consequence of EU and NATO expansion.” That we are to blame? Not him, His attacks on the EU funded with Russian cash, and his serving to do Putins bidding. Do we need to tighten the laws on treason? For a start to pursue and prosecute this vile man. Vote leave was heavily financed with Russian money. Where did Aaron Banks get the £9.6 million he bankrolled it with from when at the time he was in financial trouble? He declines to explain, other than to deny it was Russia. As I argued at the time, Brexit was destabilising for Europe and would weaken Europe in the face of a resurgent aggressive Russia, that this would play into putins hands. I said it would lead to war, and make no mistake Brexit was key in putins plan to destabilise and weaken the west in advance of his desire to recreate the soviet empire. Farage is either motivated by fascist leanings, or just did it for the cash. Either way he is a traitor. Today he is on gb so-called news blaming NATO for this crisis. It’s also no secret the Conservative party is heavily financed with Russian money. Carrie Johnson even helped set up the Conservative friends of Russia in Westminster, funded by the ex wife of the head of Russia’s secret service. The group, now renamed the Westminster Russia Forum is set to hold a ‘multilateral relations conference’ next week – despite Russia invading Ukraine. There is Boris Johnson’s continued refusal to publish the full unredacted Intelligence Committee report into Russian interference in British politics. According to the report, there is substantial evidence that Russian interference in British politics is commonplace. Boris was himself once denied access to state secrets as Foreign Secretary on security grounds. This followed reports in 2017 that British spy chiefs were "wary" of sharing information with Johnson because they didn't trust him. Would anyone agree there is malign Russian influence throughout Westminster and that we have a Russian fifth column in the heart of the establishment? One no longer based on misguided political beliefs or philosophies, but all about money and power. Does anyone regret voting leave given its clear the campaign was financed and controlled by Putin, and that whilst Britain has not benefitted in anyway, it had contributed to today’s events. How do conservative voters feel about this? FYI I have never voted labour." good post..my reply...quid est veritas.. | |||
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"It’s quite concerning you know there are people like Farage who are supporting Putin with such rhetoric, again the question must be asked? Where does his loyalty lie? " With money. He's been funded by the US and Russia for decades. | |||
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"That a bit of a stretch op brexit has caused russia to invade,your sounding like some leavers who blamed the e.u for everything" I don't think OP was saying that. But the EU is weaker with out the UK. And the UK is much weaker. All of which suits Russia. | |||
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"That a bit of a stretch op brexit has caused russia to invade,your sounding like some leavers who blamed the e.u for everything I don't think OP was saying that. But the EU is weaker with out the UK. And the UK is much weaker. All of which suits Russia." The EU is weak because it has no way of defending itself militarily without outside assistance and there is no desire to rectify that within the union with the exception of France (who are being roundly ignored by the rest). It is also highly over reliant on energy imports from Russia which puts it in a tough position. | |||
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"Who cares what farage thinks or says? The man is irrelevant. Failed politician, self interested business man and holds no power whatsoever. People getting upset about what he says is baffling. All you're doing with posts like this is drawing attention to him and spreading his nonsense. Sort of doing his PR work for him...." He has his own show on GB News, granted hardly anyone watches it but he does have a knack of fooling the foolish | |||
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"Who cares what farage thinks or says? The man is irrelevant. Failed politician, self interested business man and holds no power whatsoever. People getting upset about what he says is baffling. All you're doing with posts like this is drawing attention to him and spreading his nonsense. Sort of doing his PR work for him...." Lots of people listen to him. Sure 52% of the people who voted in the brexit referendum believed his kind of utter bollocks and voted themselves poorer. | |||
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"Who cares what farage thinks or says? The man is irrelevant. Failed politician, self interested business man and holds no power whatsoever. People getting upset about what he says is baffling. All you're doing with posts like this is drawing attention to him and spreading his nonsense. Sort of doing his PR work for him.... Lots of people listen to him. Sure 52% of the people who voted in the brexit referendum believed his kind of utter bollocks and voted themselves poorer. " im not poorer. | |||
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"Who cares what farage thinks or says? The man is irrelevant. Failed politician, self interested business man and holds no power whatsoever. People getting upset about what he says is baffling. All you're doing with posts like this is drawing attention to him and spreading his nonsense. Sort of doing his PR work for him.... Lots of people listen to him. Sure 52% of the people who voted in the brexit referendum believed his kind of utter bollocks and voted themselves poorer. im not poorer." The country is poorer, and we're all relatively poorer. Or of course you could close your eyes. Put your fingers in your ears and get cross at anyone who points out reality. | |||
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"If the EU is weaker because the UK has left that's the EU's own fault. Cameron had various meetings with the EU and each time came back with nothing which lead to the referendum. If they had valued and wanted the UK to remain in the EU they would have listened to Cameron when they had the chance. As many remainers have said they don't have a military force yet. But the current situation may change that. As for Farage being a traitor, if you are going to start pointing fingers how about pointing them at the current Labour MP's and Lords plus Corbyn who have all said its Nato's fault.!" Lol | |||
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"It turns out according to biden that the sanctions on russia dont include banning them from swift is because the eu dont want to. "That’s true and probably convenient for him. There is a worry about the unintended consequences of cutting off Russia from swift with long term implications for us all. But to that I say we adapt and survive. The west is a huge market. If russia and Gina don’t want any trade with us they will be a lot poorer. | |||
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"If the EU is weaker because the UK has left that's the EU's own fault. Cameron had various meetings with the EU and each time came back with nothing which lead to the referendum. If they had valued and wanted the UK to remain in the EU they would have listened to Cameron when they had the chance. As many remainers have said they don't have a military force yet. But the current situation may change that. As for Farage being a traitor, if you are going to start pointing fingers how about pointing them at the current Labour MP's and Lords plus Corbyn who have all said its Nato's fault.!" Top notch deflection. What about something else, what about Mongolia? | |||
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"It turns out according to biden that the sanctions on russia dont include banning them from swift is because the eu dont want to.
That’s true and probably convenient for him. There is a worry about the unintended consequences of cutting off Russia from swift with long term implications for us all. But to that I say we adapt and survive. The west is a huge market. If russia and Gina don’t want any trade with us they will be a lot poorer. "Yes seems it is true donald tusk has tweeted . “Only your sanctions are pretended [sic]. Those EU governments which blocked tough decisions (i.a. Germany, Hungary, Italy) have disgraced themselves.” | |||
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"That a bit of a stretch op brexit has caused russia to invade,your sounding like some leavers who blamed the e.u for everything" Remoaners what do you expect?  | |||
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"If the EU is weaker because the UK has left that's the EU's own fault. Cameron had various meetings with the EU and each time came back with nothing which lead to the referendum. If they had valued and wanted the UK to remain in the EU they would have listened to Cameron when they had the chance. As many remainers have said they don't have a military force yet. But the current situation may change that. As for Farage being a traitor, if you are going to start pointing fingers how about pointing them at the current Labour MP's and Lords plus Corbyn who have all said its Nato's fault.! Top notch deflection. What about something else, what about Mongolia?" Can't handle the facts then. Keep on sticking you head in the sand. And to answer the question would I still vote to leave the EU. The answer is yes I would do it today, tomorrow and every single day. | |||
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"If the EU is weaker because the UK has left that's the EU's own fault. Cameron had various meetings with the EU and each time came back with nothing which lead to the referendum. If they had valued and wanted the UK to remain in the EU they would have listened to Cameron when they had the chance. As many remainers have said they don't have a military force yet. But the current situation may change that. As for Farage being a traitor, if you are going to start pointing fingers how about pointing them at the current Labour MP's and Lords plus Corbyn who have all said its Nato's fault.! Top notch deflection. What about something else, what about Mongolia? Can't handle the facts then. Keep on sticking you head in the sand. And to answer the question would I still vote to leave the EU. The answer is yes I would do it today, tomorrow and every single day. " This thread is about Farage. Hope that clears up your confusion. Haha. Fair play. At least you're honest about being beyond any form of reason. | |||
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"The eu have been proved to be toothless." From Farage to blaming the EU for everything, in record time. Good work. | |||
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"The eu have been proved to be toothless. From Farage to blaming the EU for everything, in record time. Good work." Well the two subjects are linked or have you forgotten that? | |||
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"The eu have been proved to be toothless. From Farage to blaming the EU for everything, in record time. Good work.Well the two subjects are linked or have you forgotten that?" Lolz | |||
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"All Nigel Farage did was express an opinion which anyone is entitled to do. It is hardly the actions of a traitor to do this . Russia had no influence on the result of the referendum. Each party expressed their opinion and the public voted accordingly. An excellent example of democracy in action. In any event leaving the EU makes little difference in the short term so the end result would have no impact on Russia . We simply continue to trade with the EU on slightly different terms. The result is as simole as that. " Lolz I'd like to hear more of your bizarre opinions. | |||
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"That a bit of a stretch op brexit has caused russia to invade,your sounding like some leavers who blamed the e.u for everything I don't think OP was saying that. But the EU is weaker with out the UK. And the UK is much weaker. All of which suits Russia. The EU is weak because it has no way of defending itself militarily without outside assistance and there is no desire to rectify that within the union with the exception of France (who are being roundly ignored by the rest). It is also highly over reliant on energy imports from Russia which puts it in a tough position." Hmmm anyone would think it is an economic grouping rather than trying to be a sovereign federal state with a single foreign policy and military! | |||
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"If the EU is weaker because the UK has left that's the EU's own fault. Cameron had various meetings with the EU and each time came back with nothing which lead to the referendum. If they had valued and wanted the UK to remain in the EU they would have listened to Cameron when they had the chance. As many remainers have said they don't have a military force yet. But the current situation may change that. As for Farage being a traitor, if you are going to start pointing fingers how about pointing them at the current Labour MP's and Lords plus Corbyn who have all said its Nato's fault.! Top notch deflection. What about something else, what about Mongolia? Can't handle the facts then. Keep on sticking you head in the sand. And to answer the question would I still vote to leave the EU. The answer is yes I would do it today, tomorrow and every single day. This thread is about Farage. Hope that clears up your confusion. Haha. Fair play. At least you're honest about being beyond any form of reason. " Farage is simply a citizen and entitled to his opinion. Sitting MP's siding on the side of Russia is a different matter IMO. | |||
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"If the EU is weaker because the UK has left that's the EU's own fault. Cameron had various meetings with the EU and each time came back with nothing which lead to the referendum. If they had valued and wanted the UK to remain in the EU they would have listened to Cameron when they had the chance. As many remainers have said they don't have a military force yet. But the current situation may change that. As for Farage being a traitor, if you are going to start pointing fingers how about pointing them at the current Labour MP's and Lords plus Corbyn who have all said its Nato's fault.! Top notch deflection. What about something else, what about Mongolia? Can't handle the facts then. Keep on sticking you head in the sand. And to answer the question would I still vote to leave the EU. The answer is yes I would do it today, tomorrow and every single day. This thread is about Farage. Hope that clears up your confusion. Haha. Fair play. At least you're honest about being beyond any form of reason. Farage is simply a citizen and entitled to his opinion. Sitting MP's siding on the side of Russia is a different matter IMO." Of course he's entitled to express his employers opinions. But we're also allowed to discuss what he says, and why he might be saying it. And indeed. Most Tory MPs, and some non-Tory MPs, have abhorrent opinions and voting records. | |||
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"If the EU is weaker because the UK has left that's the EU's own fault. Cameron had various meetings with the EU and each time came back with nothing which lead to the referendum. If they had valued and wanted the UK to remain in the EU they would have listened to Cameron when they had the chance. As many remainers have said they don't have a military force yet. But the current situation may change that. As for Farage being a traitor, if you are going to start pointing fingers how about pointing them at the current Labour MP's and Lords plus Corbyn who have all said its Nato's fault.! Top notch deflection. What about something else, what about Mongolia? Can't handle the facts then. Keep on sticking you head in the sand. And to answer the question would I still vote to leave the EU. The answer is yes I would do it today, tomorrow and every single day. This thread is about Farage. Hope that clears up your confusion. Haha. Fair play. At least you're honest about being beyond any form of reason. Farage is simply a citizen and entitled to his opinion. Sitting MP's siding on the side of Russia is a different matter IMO. Of course he's entitled to express his employers opinions. But we're also allowed to discuss what he says, and why he might be saying it. And indeed. Most Tory MPs, and some non-Tory MPs, have abhorrent opinions and voting records." What do all these people have in common. Diane Abbott, John McDonnell, Richard Burgon and Ian Lavery, Beth Winter, Zarah Sultana, Bell Ribeiro-Addy, Apsana Begum, Mick Whitley, Tahir Ali, Ian Mearns, former Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn and Claudia Webbe? | |||
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"If the EU is weaker because the UK has left that's the EU's own fault. Cameron had various meetings with the EU and each time came back with nothing which lead to the referendum. If they had valued and wanted the UK to remain in the EU they would have listened to Cameron when they had the chance. As many remainers have said they don't have a military force yet. But the current situation may change that. As for Farage being a traitor, if you are going to start pointing fingers how about pointing them at the current Labour MP's and Lords plus Corbyn who have all said its Nato's fault.! Top notch deflection. What about something else, what about Mongolia? Can't handle the facts then. Keep on sticking you head in the sand. And to answer the question would I still vote to leave the EU. The answer is yes I would do it today, tomorrow and every single day. This thread is about Farage. Hope that clears up your confusion. Haha. Fair play. At least you're honest about being beyond any form of reason. Farage is simply a citizen and entitled to his opinion. Sitting MP's siding on the side of Russia is a different matter IMO. Of course he's entitled to express his employers opinions. But we're also allowed to discuss what he says, and why he might be saying it. And indeed. Most Tory MPs, and some non-Tory MPs, have abhorrent opinions and voting records. What do all these people have in common. Diane Abbott, John McDonnell, Richard Burgon and Ian Lavery, Beth Winter, Zarah Sultana, Bell Ribeiro-Addy, Apsana Begum, Mick Whitley, Tahir Ali, Ian Mearns, former Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn and Claudia Webbe?" So they signed a letter for stop the war, then got brutally smacked down By Sir Keir Starmer, then quickly withdrew their names from the letter. Take away message, you mess with the Bull you get the horns, unlike some leaders ahem, ahem. | |||
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"It’s quite concerning you know there are people like Farage who are supporting Putin with such rhetoric, again the question must be asked? Where does his loyalty lie? " his bankbalance | |||
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"It’s quite concerning you know there are people like Farage who are supporting Putin with such rhetoric, again the question must be asked? Where does his loyalty lie? his bankbalance " Which is a consequence, and makes his betrayal all the more damning. | |||
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