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By *V-Alice OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr

I've lifted this from The Guardian - but that doesn't mean it's not true.

Apparently ...

Donald Trump has said that Vladimir Putin is “very savvy” and made a “genius” move by declaring two regions of eastern Ukraine as independent states and moving Russian armed forces to them.

Trump said he saw the escalation of the Ukrainian crisis on TV “and I said: ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine … Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful.”

The former US president said that the Russian president had made a “smart move” by sending “the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen” to the area.

Now, bearing all that in mind; here's a question.

If Trump wins the next US General Election - highly unlikely but not impossible - and the Russians are still occupying Ukraine, with Putin still in charge; a lot less unlikely, given the time scale ...

Would it be a good thing for Ukraine? Or not?

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By *mateur100Man
over a year ago

nr faversham


"I've lifted this from The Guardian - but that doesn't mean it's not true.

Apparently ...

Donald Trump has said that Vladimir Putin is “very savvy” and made a “genius” move by declaring two regions of eastern Ukraine as independent states and moving Russian armed forces to them.

Trump said he saw the escalation of the Ukrainian crisis on TV “and I said: ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine … Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful.”

The former US president said that the Russian president had made a “smart move” by sending “the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen” to the area.

Now, bearing all that in mind; here's a question.

If Trump wins the next US General Election - highly unlikely but not impossible - and the Russians are still occupying Ukraine, with Putin still in charge; a lot less unlikely, given the time scale ...

Would it be a good thing for Ukraine? Or not?"

As I've highlighted on another thread, trump is acknowledging a smart move by a world leader. It doesn't mean he is supporting the individual. Most observers admired Rommel's military nous...

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By *V-Alice OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr


"I've lifted this from The Guardian - but that doesn't mean it's not true.

Apparently ...

Donald Trump has said that Vladimir Putin is “very savvy” and made a “genius” move by declaring two regions of eastern Ukraine as independent states and moving Russian armed forces to them.

Trump said he saw the escalation of the Ukrainian crisis on TV “and I said: ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine … Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful.”

The former US president said that the Russian president had made a “smart move” by sending “the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen” to the area.

Now, bearing all that in mind; here's a question.

If Trump wins the next US General Election - highly unlikely but not impossible - and the Russians are still occupying Ukraine, with Putin still in charge; a lot less unlikely, given the time scale ...

Would it be a good thing for Ukraine? Or not?

As I've highlighted on another thread, trump is acknowledging a smart move by a world leader. It doesn't mean he is supporting the individual. Most observers admired Rommel's military nous..."

Firstly, it really wasn't a smart move.

Secondly, people respected Rommel's abilities as a soldier - they didn't admire him, he was a deadly enemy.

Finally, that's not what I asked.

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By *TMA that man againMan
over a year ago

worester


"I've lifted this from The Guardian - but that doesn't mean it's not true.

Apparently ...

Donald Trump has said that Vladimir Putin is “very savvy” and made a “genius” move by declaring two regions of eastern Ukraine as independent states and moving Russian armed forces to them.

Trump said he saw the escalation of the Ukrainian crisis on TV “and I said: ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine … Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful.”

The former US president said that the Russian president had made a “smart move” by sending “the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen” to the area.

Now, bearing all that in mind; here's a question.

If Trump wins the next US General Election - highly unlikely but not impossible - and the Russians are still occupying Ukraine, with Putin still in charge; a lot less unlikely, given the time scale ...

Would it be a good thing for Ukraine? Or not?"

Trump winning another election...would not be good for Ukraine...or for anyone, anywhere!

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By *mateur100Man
over a year ago

nr faversham

Putin is running rings around the western leaders. Like it or not. Some will acknowledge and maybe admire it and maybe learn from it

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By *V-Alice OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr


"I've lifted this from The Guardian - but that doesn't mean it's not true.

Apparently ...

Donald Trump has said that Vladimir Putin is “very savvy” and made a “genius” move by declaring two regions of eastern Ukraine as independent states and moving Russian armed forces to them.

Trump said he saw the escalation of the Ukrainian crisis on TV “and I said: ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine … Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful.”

The former US president said that the Russian president had made a “smart move” by sending “the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen” to the area.

Now, bearing all that in mind; here's a question.

If Trump wins the next US General Election - highly unlikely but not impossible - and the Russians are still occupying Ukraine, with Putin still in charge; a lot less unlikely, given the time scale ...

Would it be a good thing for Ukraine? Or not?

Trump winning another election...would not be good for Ukraine...or for anyone, anywhere!"

I'd agree - but he does have his supporters and they are allowed to vote.

What sort of knots do you think a UK government would have to tie itself in if Trump decided to lift sanctions on Vlad just because they were Biden's idea?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"I've lifted this from The Guardian - but that doesn't mean it's not true.

Apparently ...

Donald Trump has said that Vladimir Putin is “very savvy” and made a “genius” move by declaring two regions of eastern Ukraine as independent states and moving Russian armed forces to them.

Trump said he saw the escalation of the Ukrainian crisis on TV “and I said: ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine … Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful.”

The former US president said that the Russian president had made a “smart move” by sending “the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen” to the area.

Now, bearing all that in mind; here's a question.

If Trump wins the next US General Election - highly unlikely but not impossible - and the Russians are still occupying Ukraine, with Putin still in charge; a lot less unlikely, given the time scale ...

Would it be a good thing for Ukraine? Or not?

Trump winning another election...would not be good for Ukraine...or for anyone, anywhere!"

Would be good for the ultra rich Americans. But everyone else no.

It's so unlikely that he will be back in power, I don't think it's worth worrying about.

He'll say whatever gets attention on him. Now-a-days he's just another Katie Hopkins, Piers Morgan etc.

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By *V-Alice OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr


"I've lifted this from The Guardian - but that doesn't mean it's not true.

Apparently ...

Donald Trump has said that Vladimir Putin is “very savvy” and made a “genius” move by declaring two regions of eastern Ukraine as independent states and moving Russian armed forces to them.

Trump said he saw the escalation of the Ukrainian crisis on TV “and I said: ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine … Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful.”

The former US president said that the Russian president had made a “smart move” by sending “the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen” to the area.

Now, bearing all that in mind; here's a question.

If Trump wins the next US General Election - highly unlikely but not impossible - and the Russians are still occupying Ukraine, with Putin still in charge; a lot less unlikely, given the time scale ...

Would it be a good thing for Ukraine? Or not?

Trump winning another election...would not be good for Ukraine...or for anyone, anywhere!

Would be good for the ultra rich Americans. But everyone else no.

It's so unlikely that he will be back in power, I don't think it's worth worrying about.

He'll say whatever gets attention on him. Now-a-days he's just another Katie Hopkins, Piers Morgan etc. "

I'm not really worried about it either - though I'll admit to a fondness for dystopian fiction. I think it's more reflective of what humans are really like.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've lifted this from The Guardian - but that doesn't mean it's not true.

Apparently ...

Donald Trump has said that Vladimir Putin is “very savvy” and made a “genius” move by declaring two regions of eastern Ukraine as independent states and moving Russian armed forces to them.

Trump said he saw the escalation of the Ukrainian crisis on TV “and I said: ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine … Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful.”

The former US president said that the Russian president had made a “smart move” by sending “the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen” to the area.

Now, bearing all that in mind; here's a question.

If Trump wins the next US General Election - highly unlikely but not impossible - and the Russians are still occupying Ukraine, with Putin still in charge; a lot less unlikely, given the time scale ...

Would it be a good thing for Ukraine? Or not?

Trump winning another election...would not be good for Ukraine...or for anyone, anywhere!

Would be good for the ultra rich Americans. But everyone else no.

It's so unlikely that he will be back in power, I don't think it's worth worrying about.

He'll say whatever gets attention on him. Now-a-days he's just another Katie Hopkins, Piers Morgan etc.

I'm not really worried about it either - though I'll admit to a fondness for dystopian fiction. I think it's more reflective of what humans are really like."

He perhaps hopes by appealing to Putins vanity (savvy, genius etc) that Russia will do that sneaky, Web-based misinformation spreading thing they are so good at. Come the next US presidential election. On his side of course...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've lifted this from The Guardian - but that doesn't mean it's not true.

Apparently ...

Donald Trump has said that Vladimir Putin is “very savvy” and made a “genius” move by declaring two regions of eastern Ukraine as independent states and moving Russian armed forces to them.

Trump said he saw the escalation of the Ukrainian crisis on TV “and I said: ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine … Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful.”

The former US president said that the Russian president had made a “smart move” by sending “the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen” to the area.

Now, bearing all that in mind; here's a question.

If Trump wins the next US General Election - highly unlikely but not impossible - and the Russians are still occupying Ukraine, with Putin still in charge; a lot less unlikely, given the time scale ...

Would it be a good thing for Ukraine? Or not?

As I've highlighted on another thread, trump is acknowledging a smart move by a world leader. It doesn't mean he is supporting the individual. Most observers admired Rommel's military nous..."

Yeah...right. As much as you admire your opponent, you don't aspire to be a dick just as them? Trump wanted an unlimited presidency, just like his buddy Putin.

His Treasonous acts on 6th January can attest to that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Putin won't stop with the Ukraine unless Nato takes some form of military action Poland and the other former states of the old USSR are targets also

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By *mateur100Man
over a year ago

nr faversham


"I've lifted this from The Guardian - but that doesn't mean it's not true.

Apparently ...

Donald Trump has said that Vladimir Putin is “very savvy” and made a “genius” move by declaring two regions of eastern Ukraine as independent states and moving Russian armed forces to them.

Trump said he saw the escalation of the Ukrainian crisis on TV “and I said: ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine … Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful.”

The former US president said that the Russian president had made a “smart move” by sending “the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen” to the area.

Now, bearing all that in mind; here's a question.

If Trump wins the next US General Election - highly unlikely but not impossible - and the Russians are still occupying Ukraine, with Putin still in charge; a lot less unlikely, given the time scale ...

Would it be a good thing for Ukraine? Or not?

As I've highlighted on another thread, trump is acknowledging a smart move by a world leader. It doesn't mean he is supporting the individual. Most observers admired Rommel's military nous...

Yeah...right. As much as you admire your opponent, you don't aspire to be a dick just as them? Trump wanted an unlimited presidency, just like his buddy Putin.

His Treasonous acts on 6th January can attest to that.

"

You know that for a fact?

I don't believe he did anything treasonous...is he charged with anything?

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By *6travellerMan
over a year ago

Tayside, Midlands and Chester

@Amature100, you are 100 percent correct. Recognising the way Putin did this is in no way supporting him, one has to recognise the brilliance of the enemy if you are to have any chance of defeating them. Monty recognised the brilliance of Rommel, to know your enemy is the only way to overcome them. Just as brilliant as Blair lying about weapons of mass destruction to invade Iraq. Just as wrong, just as illegal. Like Putin, Blair got away with it. Both should be hung for war crimes.

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By *uddy laneMan
over a year ago

dudley


"@Amature100, you are 100 percent correct. Recognising the way Putin did this is in no way supporting him, one has to recognise the brilliance of the enemy if you are to have any chance of defeating them. Monty recognised the brilliance of Rommel, to know your enemy is the only way to overcome them. Just as brilliant as Blair lying about weapons of mass destruction to invade Iraq. Just as wrong, just as illegal. Like Putin, Blair got away with it. Both should be hung for war crimes."

You missed out bush junior & Obama.

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By *uddy laneMan
over a year ago

dudley


"@Amature100, you are 100 percent correct. Recognising the way Putin did this is in no way supporting him, one has to recognise the brilliance of the enemy if you are to have any chance of defeating them. Monty recognised the brilliance of Rommel, to know your enemy is the only way to overcome them. Just as brilliant as Blair lying about weapons of mass destruction to invade Iraq. Just as wrong, just as illegal. Like Putin, Blair got away with it. Both should be hung for war crimes.

You missed out bush junior & Obama. "

George doubleya bush that is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've lifted this from The Guardian - but that doesn't mean it's not true.

Apparently ...

Donald Trump has said that Vladimir Putin is “very savvy” and made a “genius” move by declaring two regions of eastern Ukraine as independent states and moving Russian armed forces to them.

Trump said he saw the escalation of the Ukrainian crisis on TV “and I said: ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine … Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful.”

The former US president said that the Russian president had made a “smart move” by sending “the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen” to the area.

Now, bearing all that in mind; here's a question.

If Trump wins the next US General Election - highly unlikely but not impossible - and the Russians are still occupying Ukraine, with Putin still in charge; a lot less unlikely, given the time scale ...

Would it be a good thing for Ukraine? Or not?

As I've highlighted on another thread, trump is acknowledging a smart move by a world leader. It doesn't mean he is supporting the individual. Most observers admired Rommel's military nous...

Yeah...right. As much as you admire your opponent, you don't aspire to be a dick just as them? Trump wanted an unlimited presidency, just like his buddy Putin.

His Treasonous acts on 6th January can attest to that.

You know that for a fact?

I don't believe he did anything treasonous...is he charged with anything?"

Yet. you forgot yet.

This feels like gaslighting, the coup attempt was televised.

But not detracting from real problem, there are sympathisers with Trump who have clearly supported his relationship with Putin also, It puts into question where their loyalties lie also. Which is extremely concerning, are we looking at a situation where there is some enemy within, looking at taking Putins lead and possibly looking at trying to overthrow western democracies? very scary thought, but we live in unexpected times now.

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By *itzi999Woman
over a year ago

Slough


" As I've highlighted on another thread, trump is acknowledging a smart move by a world leader. It doesn't mean he is supporting the individual. Most observers admired Rommel's military nous..."

this!!!

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Good for very few, in limited ways only

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By *wingerlover2018Man
over a year ago

Moors


"@Amature100, you are 100 percent correct. Recognising the way Putin did this is in no way supporting him, one has to recognise the brilliance of the enemy if you are to have any chance of defeating them. Monty recognised the brilliance of Rommel, to know your enemy is the only way to overcome them. Just as brilliant as Blair lying about weapons of mass destruction to invade Iraq. Just as wrong, just as illegal. Like Putin, Blair got away with it. Both should be hung for war crimes."

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

Trump has to support the Russians. He owes them $millions and is fully Kompromat.

He is also a fucking imbecile.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

Honestly OP I think the last thing the Ukrainian people are concerned about right now is Trump getting reelected.

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By *mateur100Man
over a year ago

nr faversham


" As I've highlighted on another thread, trump is acknowledging a smart move by a world leader. It doesn't mean he is supporting the individual. Most observers admired Rommel's military nous...

this!!!"

I also read that, following the Crimean takeover and the threats to suspend Russia from swift, they have been developing their own alternative method, similar to that of China. Like it or not, he's streets ahead of the EU.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" As I've highlighted on another thread, trump is acknowledging a smart move by a world leader. It doesn't mean he is supporting the individual. Most observers admired Rommel's military nous...

this!!!

I also read that, following the Crimean takeover and the threats to suspend Russia from swift, they have been developing their own alternative method, similar to that of China. Like it or not, he's streets ahead of the EU. "

Now, not later at the end of this. The Alliance is just gearing up now, he thinks providence is guiding him, just like other failed dictators, the line has been crossed.

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By *uddy laneMan
over a year ago

dudley


" As I've highlighted on another thread, trump is acknowledging a smart move by a world leader. It doesn't mean he is supporting the individual. Most observers admired Rommel's military nous...

this!!!

I also read that, following the Crimean takeover and the threats to suspend Russia from swift, they have been developing their own alternative method, similar to that of China. Like it or not, he's streets ahead of the EU. "

They have been saying they will remove Russia from the swift international banking system for years and guess what they will not, if they do the gas the oil and everything else will stop to flowing to europe, if you can not pay for it you can't get it including the soyuz rockets for the international space station just make sure you get every one off first.

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge


"Trump has to support the Russians. He owes them $millions and is fully Kompromat.

He is also a fucking imbecile."

There was also the Moscow 'pissing video' we're yet to see..

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood


"Trump has to support the Russians. He owes them $millions and is fully Kompromat.

He is also a fucking imbecile.

There was also the Moscow 'pissing video' we're yet to see.."

you wont get to see it either because its as real as the russian dossier hilarys employee handed to the fbi lol

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By *uddy laneMan
over a year ago

dudley


"Trump has to support the Russians. He owes them $millions and is fully Kompromat.

He is also a fucking imbecile.

There was also the Moscow 'pissing video' we're yet to see..you wont get to see it either because its as real as the russian dossier hilarys employee handed to the fbi lol"

It was on her downtown denver bathroom closet email server, which somehow got wet.

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By *mateur100Man
over a year ago

nr faversham


" As I've highlighted on another thread, trump is acknowledging a smart move by a world leader. It doesn't mean he is supporting the individual. Most observers admired Rommel's military nous...

this!!!

I also read that, following the Crimean takeover and the threats to suspend Russia from swift, they have been developing their own alternative method, similar to that of China. Like it or not, he's streets ahead of the EU.

Now, not later at the end of this. The Alliance is just gearing up now, he thinks providence is guiding him, just like other failed dictators, the line has been crossed."

Alliance? Like the good old EU? Where individuals are more concerned about themselves? He's planned this meticulously over 10 years and knows full well the western leaders are soft

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" As I've highlighted on another thread, trump is acknowledging a smart move by a world leader. It doesn't mean he is supporting the individual. Most observers admired Rommel's military nous...

this!!!

I also read that, following the Crimean takeover and the threats to suspend Russia from swift, they have been developing their own alternative method, similar to that of China. Like it or not, he's streets ahead of the EU.

Now, not later at the end of this. The Alliance is just gearing up now, he thinks providence is guiding him, just like other failed dictators, the line has been crossed.

Alliance? Like the good old EU? Where individuals are more concerned about themselves? He's planned this meticulously over 10 years and knows full well the western leaders are soft"

Pootin should have learned this one fact. “Never believe your own hype” especially if you have yes men telling you what you want to hear. Dictator mistake 101. He’s underestimated us, thought we were weak, fuck him, and fuck the naysayers, ready to keel over at the first sign of trouble.

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