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"Whilst I have no doubt that there are racists within Tory ranks, they would have to go some way to plumb the same foul depths of racism as the BNP or the Labour Party. As we all know, but some seem to selectively forget, the EHRC investigation found that the Labour Party had committed unlawful racist acts, but apart from booting Corbyn out, they have done little to progress since the ruling and Corbyn is still hanging around the side lines like a bad smell. I'm sure the usuals will call my post a deflection, but strangely, that always seems to be the case when the hypocrisy of the left is called out. " Top notch deflection. What about that unrelated thing over there? | |||
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"Top notch deflection. What about that unrelated thing over there?" it's probable that the far righty tory voters are so sickened by deep seated institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party that they are unable to bring themselves to talk about how disgusted they are by it.  | |||
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"Whilst I have no doubt that there are racists within Tory ranks, they would have to go some way to plumb the same foul depths of racism as the BNP or the Labour Party. As we all know, but some seem to selectively forget, the EHRC investigation found that the Labour Party had committed unlawful racist acts, but apart from booting Corbyn out, they have done little to progress since the ruling and Corbyn is still hanging around the side lines like a bad smell. I'm sure the usuals will call my post a deflection, but strangely, that always seems to be the case when the hypocrisy of the left is called out. " | |||
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"Whilst I have no doubt that there are racists within Tory ranks, they would have to go some way to plumb the same foul depths of racism as the BNP or the Labour Party. As we all know, but some seem to selectively forget, the EHRC investigation found that the Labour Party had committed unlawful racist acts, but apart from booting Corbyn out, they have done little to progress since the ruling and Corbyn is still hanging around the side lines like a bad smell. I'm sure the usuals will call my post a deflection, but strangely, that always seems to be the case when the hypocrisy of the left is called out. Top notch deflection. What about that unrelated thing over there?" By unrelated thing over there, could you possibly be referring to the Labour Party's horrendous mismanagement of NHS Wales, leaving patients to die in corridors and people to wait 4 days in A&E before a bed is found? A vote for Labour is a vote for an early death it seems, particularly in Wales. | |||
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"Whilst I have no doubt that there are racists within Tory ranks, they would have to go some way to plumb the same foul depths of racism as the BNP or the Labour Party. As we all know, but some seem to selectively forget, the EHRC investigation found that the Labour Party had committed unlawful racist acts, but apart from booting Corbyn out, they have done little to progress since the ruling and Corbyn is still hanging around the side lines like a bad smell. I'm sure the usuals will call my post a deflection, but strangely, that always seems to be the case when the hypocrisy of the left is called out. Top notch deflection. What about that unrelated thing over there? By unrelated thing over there, could you possibly be referring to the Labour Party's horrendous mismanagement of NHS Wales, leaving patients to die in corridors and people to wait 4 days in A&E before a bed is found? A vote for Labour is a vote for an early death it seems, particularly in Wales." What about the situation in Patagonia right now? Or have you seen what's happening to the price of copper in Mongolia? | |||
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"Whilst I have no doubt that there are racists within Tory ranks, they would have to go some way to plumb the same foul depths of racism as the BNP or the Labour Party. As we all know, but some seem to selectively forget, the EHRC investigation found that the Labour Party had committed unlawful racist acts, but apart from booting Corbyn out, they have done little to progress since the ruling and Corbyn is still hanging around the side lines like a bad smell. I'm sure the usuals will call my post a deflection, but strangely, that always seems to be the case when the hypocrisy of the left is called out. Top notch deflection. What about that unrelated thing over there? By unrelated thing over there, could you possibly be referring to the Labour Party's horrendous mismanagement of NHS Wales, leaving patients to die in corridors and people to wait 4 days in A&E before a bed is found? A vote for Labour is a vote for an early death it seems, particularly in Wales. What about the situation in Patagonia right now? Or have you seen what's happening to the price of copper in Mongolia? " I would imagine that the price of copper in Mongolia is irrelevant to a person struggling for breath and dying in an NHS Wales Labour run medical facility. But if a lefty thinks it's more important - well, enough said. | |||
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"Whilst I have no doubt that there are racists within Tory ranks, they would have to go some way to plumb the same foul depths of racism as the BNP or the Labour Party. As we all know, but some seem to selectively forget, the EHRC investigation found that the Labour Party had committed unlawful racist acts, but apart from booting Corbyn out, they have done little to progress since the ruling and Corbyn is still hanging around the side lines like a bad smell. I'm sure the usuals will call my post a deflection, but strangely, that always seems to be the case when the hypocrisy of the left is called out. Top notch deflection. What about that unrelated thing over there? By unrelated thing over there, could you possibly be referring to the Labour Party's horrendous mismanagement of NHS Wales, leaving patients to die in corridors and people to wait 4 days in A&E before a bed is found? A vote for Labour is a vote for an early death it seems, particularly in Wales. What about the situation in Patagonia right now? Or have you seen what's happening to the price of copper in Mongolia? I would imagine that the price of copper in Mongolia is irrelevant to a person struggling for breath and dying in an NHS Wales Labour run medical facility. But if a lefty thinks it's more important - well, enough said." What about something else completely unrelated? Why do so many people on here keep saying that only lefties are against race hate? It's just down right weird. | |||
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"Whilst I have no doubt that there are racists within Tory ranks, they would have to go some way to plumb the same foul depths of racism as the BNP or the Labour Party. As we all know, but some seem to selectively forget, the EHRC investigation found that the Labour Party had committed unlawful racist acts, but apart from booting Corbyn out, they have done little to progress since the ruling and Corbyn is still hanging around the side lines like a bad smell. I'm sure the usuals will call my post a deflection, but strangely, that always seems to be the case when the hypocrisy of the left is called out. Top notch deflection. What about that unrelated thing over there? By unrelated thing over there, could you possibly be referring to the Labour Party's horrendous mismanagement of NHS Wales, leaving patients to die in corridors and people to wait 4 days in A&E before a bed is found? A vote for Labour is a vote for an early death it seems, particularly in Wales. What about the situation in Patagonia right now? Or have you seen what's happening to the price of copper in Mongolia? I would imagine that the price of copper in Mongolia is irrelevant to a person struggling for breath and dying in an NHS Wales Labour run medical facility. But if a lefty thinks it's more important - well, enough said. What about something else completely unrelated? Why do so many people on here keep saying that only lefties are against race hate? It's just down right weird." Considering that the thread concerns racism, it's not really unrelated is it?  | |||
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"Whilst I have no doubt that there are racists within Tory ranks, they would have to go some way to plumb the same foul depths of racism as the BNP or the Labour Party. As we all know, but some seem to selectively forget, the EHRC investigation found that the Labour Party had committed unlawful racist acts, but apart from booting Corbyn out, they have done little to progress since the ruling and Corbyn is still hanging around the side lines like a bad smell. I'm sure the usuals will call my post a deflection, but strangely, that always seems to be the case when the hypocrisy of the left is called out. Top notch deflection. What about that unrelated thing over there? By unrelated thing over there, could you possibly be referring to the Labour Party's horrendous mismanagement of NHS Wales, leaving patients to die in corridors and people to wait 4 days in A&E before a bed is found? A vote for Labour is a vote for an early death it seems, particularly in Wales. What about the situation in Patagonia right now? Or have you seen what's happening to the price of copper in Mongolia? I would imagine that the price of copper in Mongolia is irrelevant to a person struggling for breath and dying in an NHS Wales Labour run medical facility. But if a lefty thinks it's more important - well, enough said. What about something else completely unrelated? Why do so many people on here keep saying that only lefties are against race hate? It's just down right weird. Considering that the thread concerns racism, it's not really unrelated is it? "To be clear. I'm just poking fun at your for your poor attempt to divert attention from the Tory party islamaphobia problems that this thread is about. If you were pretending to care about racism. You would at least address that issue. You're clearly not, and only care about trying to divert attention from the conservative party. Which is fine. But I'm allowed to poke fun at you for it. Because you're being so obvious. | |||
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"it appears that far righty tory voters are unable to bring themselves to discuss widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party. it leaves the question 'what have these far righty tory voters got to hide' by not addressing the topic that concerns islamophobia? are they themselves ashamed or just islamophobic? " Or don't give a flying fuck about institutional racism, and only want to defend their party. | |||
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"it appears that far righty tory voters are unable to bring themselves to discuss widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party. it leaves the question 'what have these far righty tory voters got to hide' by not addressing the topic that concerns islamophobia? are they themselves ashamed or just islamophobic? " What Islamophobia can you be more specific? and then there may be something to discuss other than that it just seems to be another general rant with no substance.Its very hard to debate when there are no specifics. | |||
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"specifically the deep-seated widespread institutional islamophobia withing the conservative and unionist party... and seemingly their voters by look of things. "So just a generalisation then no specifics.You cannot have a discussion without specifics otherwise it just goes the tory party is Islamophobic no its not yes it is no its not Tell us what you are on about then people can debate the matter and maybe come to a conclusion if not its just another rant post with no substance. | |||
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"it appears that far righty tory voters are unable to bring themselves to discuss widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party. it leaves the question 'what have these far righty tory voters got to hide' by not addressing the topic that concerns islamophobia? are they themselves ashamed or just islamophobic? What Islamophobia can you be more specific? and then there may be something to discuss other than that it just seems to be another general rant with no substance.Its very hard to debate when there are no specifics." It's in the news today, not just the fringe outlets, the mainstream Tory supporting news outlets. The Tory party whips have been accused of islamaphobia. But I get your point, there's so much anti Islam racism in the current government, it's hard to know which specific one is being discussed. | |||
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"Whilst I have no doubt that there are racists within Tory ranks, they would have to go some way to plumb the same foul depths of racism as the BNP or the Labour Party. As we all know, but some seem to selectively forget, the EHRC investigation found that the Labour Party had committed unlawful racist acts, but apart from booting Corbyn out, they have done little to progress since the ruling and Corbyn is still hanging around the side lines like a bad smell. I'm sure the usuals will call my post a deflection, but strangely, that always seems to be the case when the hypocrisy of the left is called out. Top notch deflection. What about that unrelated thing over there? By unrelated thing over there, could you possibly be referring to the Labour Party's horrendous mismanagement of NHS Wales, leaving patients to die in corridors and people to wait 4 days in A&E before a bed is found? A vote for Labour is a vote for an early death it seems, particularly in Wales. What about the situation in Patagonia right now? Or have you seen what's happening to the price of copper in Mongolia? I would imagine that the price of copper in Mongolia is irrelevant to a person struggling for breath and dying in an NHS Wales Labour run medical facility. But if a lefty thinks it's more important - well, enough said. What about something else completely unrelated? Why do so many people on here keep saying that only lefties are against race hate? It's just down right weird. Considering that the thread concerns racism, it's not really unrelated is it?
To be clear. I'm just poking fun at your for your poor attempt to divert attention from the Tory party islamaphobia problems that this thread is about. If you were pretending to care about racism. You would at least address that issue.
You're clearly not, and only care about trying to divert attention from the conservative party.
Which is fine. But I'm allowed to poke fun at you for it. Because you're being so obvious. "No, you're way off target. Never heard the expression "people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"? The Labour Party and its voters live in such a house. Few, if any, have ever apologised for, acknowledged or even know of the Labour Party's racist shame. I've even heard a lefty moron say that it wasn't racism because Jews aren't black. Labour is officially a proven racist party. Those who support a proven racist party are obviously racists themselves, without question, but are incapable of acknowledging that fact. Oh, and btw - I consider "poking fun" at me to be abusive, something not allowed under forum rules. Knowledge is everything. | |||
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"it appears that far righty tory voters are unable to bring themselves to discuss widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party. it leaves the question 'what have these far righty tory voters got to hide' by not addressing the topic that concerns islamophobia? are they themselves ashamed or just islamophobic? What Islamophobia can you be more specific? and then there may be something to discuss other than that it just seems to be another general rant with no substance.Its very hard to debate when there are no specifics. It's in the news today, not just the fringe outlets, the mainstream Tory supporting news outlets. The Tory party whips have been accused of islamaphobia. But I get your point, there's so much anti Islam racism in the current government, it's hard to know which specific one is being discussed. " So you want to talk about Nusrat Ghani i take it? | |||
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"Whilst I have no doubt that there are racists within Tory ranks, they would have to go some way to plumb the same foul depths of racism as the BNP or the Labour Party. As we all know, but some seem to selectively forget, the EHRC investigation found that the Labour Party had committed unlawful racist acts, but apart from booting Corbyn out, they have done little to progress since the ruling and Corbyn is still hanging around the side lines like a bad smell. I'm sure the usuals will call my post a deflection, but strangely, that always seems to be the case when the hypocrisy of the left is called out. Top notch deflection. What about that unrelated thing over there? By unrelated thing over there, could you possibly be referring to the Labour Party's horrendous mismanagement of NHS Wales, leaving patients to die in corridors and people to wait 4 days in A&E before a bed is found? A vote for Labour is a vote for an early death it seems, particularly in Wales. What about the situation in Patagonia right now? Or have you seen what's happening to the price of copper in Mongolia? I would imagine that the price of copper in Mongolia is irrelevant to a person struggling for breath and dying in an NHS Wales Labour run medical facility. But if a lefty thinks it's more important - well, enough said. What about something else completely unrelated? Why do so many people on here keep saying that only lefties are against race hate? It's just down right weird. Considering that the thread concerns racism, it's not really unrelated is it?
To be clear. I'm just poking fun at your for your poor attempt to divert attention from the Tory party islamaphobia problems that this thread is about. If you were pretending to care about racism. You would at least address that issue.
You're clearly not, and only care about trying to divert attention from the conservative party.
Which is fine. But I'm allowed to poke fun at you for it. Because you're being so obvious.
No, you're way off target. Never heard the expression "people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"? The Labour Party and its voters live in such a house. Few, if any, have ever apologised for, acknowledged or even know of the Labour Party's racist shame. I've even heard a lefty moron say that it wasn't racism because Jews aren't black. Labour is officially a proven racist party. Those who support a proven racist party are obviously racists themselves, without question, but are incapable of acknowledging that fact. Oh, and btw - I consider "poking fun" at me to be abusive, something not allowed under forum rules. Knowledge is everything. "As far as I know. The Labour party didn't start this thread. Anyway, seeing as you said you're extremely sensitive to being gently poked fun at, I'll leave you to your bizarre attempts at diverting attention from the issue. | |||
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"it appears that far righty tory voters are unable to bring themselves to discuss widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party. it leaves the question 'what have these far righty tory voters got to hide' by not addressing the topic that concerns islamophobia? are they themselves ashamed or just islamophobic? What Islamophobia can you be more specific? and then there may be something to discuss other than that it just seems to be another general rant with no substance.Its very hard to debate when there are no specifics. It's in the news today, not just the fringe outlets, the mainstream Tory supporting news outlets. The Tory party whips have been accused of islamaphobia. But I get your point, there's so much anti Islam racism in the current government, it's hard to know which specific one is being discussed. So you want to talk about Nusrat Ghani i take it?" Nope. I'm assuming that's why the thread has started. I'm mainly here to have a few jokes with the "look at that distraction over there" chap. But he seems to be upset. So I'll leave you to it. | |||
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"it appears that far righty tory voters are unable to bring themselves to discuss widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party. it leaves the question 'what have these far righty tory voters got to hide' by not addressing the topic that concerns islamophobia? are they themselves ashamed or just islamophobic? What Islamophobia can you be more specific? and then there may be something to discuss other than that it just seems to be another general rant with no substance.Its very hard to debate when there are no specifics. It's in the news today, not just the fringe outlets, the mainstream Tory supporting news outlets. The Tory party whips have been accused of islamaphobia. But I get your point, there's so much anti Islam racism in the current government, it's hard to know which specific one is being discussed. So you want to talk about Nusrat Ghani i take it? Nope. I'm assuming that's why the thread has started. I'm mainly here to have a few jokes with the "look at that distraction over there" chap. But he seems to be upset. So I'll leave you to it." Yes i thought i was ask the other day why i dont post much on here these days and my reply was because people dont want a discussion anymore just sound off, score points (in their heads) and people saying im just having a laugh you have proved my point.  | |||
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"it appears that far righty tory voters are unable to bring themselves to discuss widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party. it leaves the question 'what have these far righty tory voters got to hide' by not addressing the topic that concerns islamophobia? are they themselves ashamed or just islamophobic? What Islamophobia can you be more specific? and then there may be something to discuss other than that it just seems to be another general rant with no substance.Its very hard to debate when there are no specifics. It's in the news today, not just the fringe outlets, the mainstream Tory supporting news outlets. The Tory party whips have been accused of islamaphobia. But I get your point, there's so much anti Islam racism in the current government, it's hard to know which specific one is being discussed. So you want to talk about Nusrat Ghani i take it? Nope. I'm assuming that's why the thread has started. I'm mainly here to have a few jokes with the "look at that distraction over there" chap. But he seems to be upset. So I'll leave you to it.Yes i thought i was ask the other day why i dont post much on here these days and my reply was because people dont want a discussion anymore just sound off, score points (in their heads) and people saying im just having a laugh you have proved my point. "Most of the defence for the various government sleaze, corruption, lies, racism etc is usually "look at that distraction over there". What can you do but laugh? It's rare for any meaningful political debate on the internet. | |||
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"it appears that far righty tory voters are unable to bring themselves to discuss widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party. it leaves the question 'what have these far righty tory voters got to hide' by not addressing the topic that concerns islamophobia? are they themselves ashamed or just islamophobic? What Islamophobia can you be more specific? and then there may be something to discuss other than that it just seems to be another general rant with no substance.Its very hard to debate when there are no specifics. It's in the news today, not just the fringe outlets, the mainstream Tory supporting news outlets. The Tory party whips have been accused of islamaphobia. But I get your point, there's so much anti Islam racism in the current government, it's hard to know which specific one is being discussed. So you want to talk about Nusrat Ghani i take it? Nope. I'm assuming that's why the thread has started. I'm mainly here to have a few jokes with the "look at that distraction over there" chap. But he seems to be upset. So I'll leave you to it.Yes i thought i was ask the other day why i dont post much on here these days and my reply was because people dont want a discussion anymore just sound off, score points (in their heads) and people saying im just having a laugh you have proved my point.
Most of the defence for the various government sleaze, corruption, lies, racism etc is usually "look at that distraction over there". What can you do but laugh?
It's rare for any meaningful political debate on the internet. "We used to have them before brexit but tbh most who get in here now are just idiots who have no idea about the art of debate i blame twitter and facebook | |||
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"Whilst I have no doubt that there are racists within Tory ranks, they would have to go some way to plumb the same foul depths of racism as the BNP or the Labour Party. As we all know, but some seem to selectively forget, the EHRC investigation found that the Labour Party had committed unlawful racist acts, but apart from booting Corbyn out, they have done little to progress since the ruling and Corbyn is still hanging around the side lines like a bad smell. I'm sure the usuals will call my post a deflection, but strangely, that always seems to be the case when the hypocrisy of the left is called out. " Actually the difference is that labour allowed an outside organisation to investigate and present its findings to the public… the conservatives… erm… not so much! All in house, where all the then candidates said they would make any investigations public on stumpings, they renegged from that promise | |||
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"Whilst I have no doubt that there are racists within Tory ranks, they would have to go some way to plumb the same foul depths of racism as the BNP or the Labour Party. As we all know, but some seem to selectively forget, the EHRC investigation found that the Labour Party had committed unlawful racist acts, but apart from booting Corbyn out, they have done little to progress since the ruling and Corbyn is still hanging around the side lines like a bad smell. I'm sure the usuals will call my post a deflection, but strangely, that always seems to be the case when the hypocrisy of the left is called out. Top notch deflection. What about that unrelated thing over there? By unrelated thing over there, could you possibly be referring to the Labour Party's horrendous mismanagement of NHS Wales, leaving patients to die in corridors and people to wait 4 days in A&E before a bed is found? A vote for Labour is a vote for an early death it seems, particularly in Wales. What about the situation in Patagonia right now? Or have you seen what's happening to the price of copper in Mongolia? " What about the most important subject right now (apparently) France not having a left wing presidential candidate (allegedly ) | |||
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"it appears that far righty tory voters are unable to bring themselves to discuss widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party. it leaves the question 'what have these far righty tory voters got to hide' by not addressing the topic that concerns islamophobia? are they themselves ashamed or just islamophobic? What Islamophobia can you be more specific? and then there may be something to discuss other than that it just seems to be another general rant with no substance.Its very hard to debate when there are no specifics. It's in the news today, not just the fringe outlets, the mainstream Tory supporting news outlets. The Tory party whips have been accused of islamaphobia. But I get your point, there's so much anti Islam racism in the current government, it's hard to know which specific one is being discussed. So you want to talk about Nusrat Ghani i take it? Nope. I'm assuming that's why the thread has started. I'm mainly here to have a few jokes with the "look at that distraction over there" chap. But he seems to be upset. So I'll leave you to it.Yes i thought i was ask the other day why i dont post much on here these days and my reply was because people dont want a discussion anymore just sound off, score points (in their heads) and people saying im just having a laugh you have proved my point.
Most of the defence for the various government sleaze, corruption, lies, racism etc is usually "look at that distraction over there". What can you do but laugh?
It's rare for any meaningful political debate on the internet. We used to have them before brexit but tbh most who get in here now are just idiots who have no idea about the art of debate i blame twitter and facebook "Tbh the Brexit supporters on here have understandably ‘disappeared’ due to the massive turd that is Brexit , even lobster Chris, truck driver Pat and the very confused chap from Spain can’t defend this shit show | |||
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"When people in the UK describe Brexit as a shit show what exactly do they mean? From over here it's looks like your economy is booming "Well, we have the problems with the NI protocol, fishing industry ruined, billions lost in trade (£128 billion and counting ) , massive queues at ports, the worst PM & government in living memory (due to Brexit) , no new beneficial trade deals . What do you mean by booming economy?  | |||
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"When people in the UK describe Brexit as a shit show what exactly do they mean? From over here it's looks like your economy is booming "Basically twice as damaging to the economy as covid. As per ONS. Plus all the other bollocks, shit food from countries with lower standards, human shit being pumped into the rivers, mega lorry queues backing up the motorways. More expensive imports/exports etc etc etc. And the upside to brexit.... No one can put their finger on anything. | |||
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"Whilst I have no doubt that there are racists within Tory ranks, they would have to go some way to plumb the same foul depths of racism as the BNP or the Labour Party. As we all know, but some seem to selectively forget, the EHRC investigation found that the Labour Party had committed unlawful racist acts, but apart from booting Corbyn out, they have done little to progress since the ruling and Corbyn is still hanging around the side lines like a bad smell. I'm sure the usuals will call my post a deflection, but strangely, that always seems to be the case when the hypocrisy of the left is called out. " Why don’t the raging right try and solve this problem rather that try and deflect ? It seems the righties don’t want to acknowledge they have a problem and are using the same old diversion tactics . Boris has been to a party in lockdown , yeah but we shouldn’t pay for the BBC or let’s use the Royal Navy to stop immigrants . Btw, are you Micheal Fabricant ? | |||
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"When people in the UK describe Brexit as a shit show what exactly do they mean? From over here it's looks like your economy is booming
Basically twice as damaging to the economy as covid. As per ONS.
Plus all the other bollocks, shit food from countries with lower standards, human shit being pumped into the rivers, mega lorry queues backing up the motorways. More expensive imports/exports etc etc etc.
And the upside to brexit.... No one can put their finger on anything."We now have the ‘freedom’ to be the laughing stock of Europe and will soon be the ‘sick man’ of Europe again . | |||
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"When people in the UK describe Brexit as a shit show what exactly do they mean? From over here it's looks like your economy is booming "Brexit is a shitshow.. Have you tried importing anything recently, a total phuckin mess, add VAT and duty prior to receiving goods, extensive delays at ports. As it stands, I send NOTHING to NI anymore as it isn't worth the grief and time in paperwork filling out ridiculous forms. In the good old days, put VAT number on the consignment and it came through 'at cost', no up front VAT to then wait 2 to 3 months to be paid back and no 5% dropped into a blackhole. Although it gets refunded, it's tied up cash flow., causing prices up and continue to go up beyond pay rises. Mobile roaming, Air passenger compensation scheme and many more benefits of being in a single market, shipping costs now classed as international and substantially increased leads to one conclusion, higher prices. Oh, Brexit fixed immigration too? Really, no labour available and emergency work permits being dished out along with the illegal stance in regards to refugees. Time to take the blinkers off and smell the coffee.. | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys?" There is a problem still in the UK with racism though from what I see it is far less than before. I hear that in the 60's /70's and even 80's it was far far worse. So improvements have been made but still more to do. This appears to also be affecting top level politics from both main parties. Not sure how the UK compares to other countries on this issue. One additional thing though is that there should be proof offered for any such allegation as its a very serious accusation. | |||
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"Whilst I have no doubt that there are racists within Tory ranks, they would have to go some way to plumb the same foul depths of racism as the BNP or the Labour Party. As we all know, but some seem to selectively forget, the EHRC investigation found that the Labour Party had committed unlawful racist acts, but apart from booting Corbyn out, they have done little to progress since the ruling and Corbyn is still hanging around the side lines like a bad smell. I'm sure the usuals will call my post a deflection, but strangely, that always seems to be the case when the hypocrisy of the left is called out. Why don’t the raging right try and solve this problem rather that try and deflect ? It seems the righties don’t want to acknowledge they have a problem and are using the same old diversion tactics . Boris has been to a party in lockdown , yeah but we shouldn’t pay for the BBC or let’s use the Royal Navy to stop immigrants . Btw, are you Micheal Fabricant ? "Are you saying that all voters if have voted Tory are raging right? Be very careful | |||
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"Whilst I have no doubt that there are racists within Tory ranks, they would have to go some way to plumb the same foul depths of racism as the BNP or the Labour Party. As we all know, but some seem to selectively forget, the EHRC investigation found that the Labour Party had committed unlawful racist acts, but apart from booting Corbyn out, they have done little to progress since the ruling and Corbyn is still hanging around the side lines like a bad smell. I'm sure the usuals will call my post a deflection, but strangely, that always seems to be the case when the hypocrisy of the left is called out. Top notch deflection. What about that unrelated thing over there?" How does one get all the salt out of gammon? | |||
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"Funny how this country starting tilting tits-up since it happened. Last week a Tory MP was heckled at during PMQs for suggesting Micro Plastic water filters should be compulsory on all new washing machines. Considering the bulk of microplastics in our food is found in the sea and now contaminating the land where crops and cattle is raised due to passing through treatment works and ending up in sludge sprayed on farm land. I'd consider filters a good start. Not heckled down by other Tories for the suggestion of filtration on washing machine waste water." Lacking some crucial context there. That event happened during a debate over the whole Partygate scandal. (I think it was actually an urgent question session over Partygate.) Tory after Tory desperately tried to ignore the vast partygate elephant in the room by asking Johnson totally random questions instead. When this particular guy stood up and asked about microplastics and washing machines, it was no wonder he was greeted by jeers and disbelieving laughter. | |||
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"Whilst I have no doubt that there are racists within Tory ranks, they would have to go some way to plumb the same foul depths of racism as the BNP or the Labour Party. As we all know, but some seem to selectively forget, the EHRC investigation found that the Labour Party had committed unlawful racist acts, but apart from booting Corbyn out, they have done little to progress since the ruling and Corbyn is still hanging around the side lines like a bad smell. I'm sure the usuals will call my post a deflection, but strangely, that always seems to be the case when the hypocrisy of the left is called out. Why don’t the raging right try and solve this problem rather that try and deflect ? It seems the righties don’t want to acknowledge they have a problem and are using the same old diversion tactics . Boris has been to a party in lockdown , yeah but we shouldn’t pay for the BBC or let’s use the Royal Navy to stop immigrants . Btw, are you Micheal Fabricant ? "as I have said before we have the most diverse cabinet in British history so I’m not sure where the racism fits with that.As someone has brought brexit up on this thread how many meps are there now from the bame community since the uk has left? | |||
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"Whilst I have no doubt that there are racists within Tory ranks, they would have to go some way to plumb the same foul depths of racism as the BNP or the Labour Party. As we all know, but some seem to selectively forget, the EHRC investigation found that the Labour Party had committed unlawful racist acts, but apart from booting Corbyn out, they have done little to progress since the ruling and Corbyn is still hanging around the side lines like a bad smell. I'm sure the usuals will call my post a deflection, but strangely, that always seems to be the case when the hypocrisy of the left is called out. Why don’t the raging right try and solve this problem rather that try and deflect ? It seems the righties don’t want to acknowledge they have a problem and are using the same old diversion tactics . Boris has been to a party in lockdown , yeah but we shouldn’t pay for the BBC or let’s use the Royal Navy to stop immigrants . Btw, are you Micheal Fabricant ? as I have said before we have the most diverse cabinet in British history so I’m not sure where the racism fits with that.As someone has brought brexit up on this thread how many meps are there now from the bame community since the uk has left?"Tbh, you brought up Brexit  | |||
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Are you saying that all voters if have voted Tory are raging right? Be very careful"Not at all, where did I say that? It was a reply to the person who thinks all labour voters are lefty hypocrites | |||
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"Whilst I have no doubt that there are racists within Tory ranks, they would have to go some way to plumb the same foul depths of racism as the BNP or the Labour Party. As we all know, but some seem to selectively forget, the EHRC investigation found that the Labour Party had committed unlawful racist acts, but apart from booting Corbyn out, they have done little to progress since the ruling and Corbyn is still hanging around the side lines like a bad smell. I'm sure the usuals will call my post a deflection, but strangely, that always seems to be the case when the hypocrisy of the left is called out. Why don’t the raging right try and solve this problem rather that try and deflect ? It seems the righties don’t want to acknowledge they have a problem and are using the same old diversion tactics . Boris has been to a party in lockdown , yeah but we shouldn’t pay for the BBC or let’s use the Royal Navy to stop immigrants . Btw, are you Micheal Fabricant ?
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"Whilst I have no doubt that there are racists within Tory ranks, they would have to go some way to plumb the same foul depths of racism as the BNP or the Labour Party. As we all know, but some seem to selectively forget, the EHRC investigation found that the Labour Party had committed unlawful racist acts, but apart from booting Corbyn out, they have done little to progress since the ruling and Corbyn is still hanging around the side lines like a bad smell. I'm sure the usuals will call my post a deflection, but strangely, that always seems to be the case when the hypocrisy of the left is called out. Top notch deflection. What about that unrelated thing over there? By unrelated thing over there, could you possibly be referring to the Labour Party's horrendous mismanagement of NHS Wales, leaving patients to die in corridors and people to wait 4 days in A&E before a bed is found? A vote for Labour is a vote for an early death it seems, particularly in Wales. What about the situation in Patagonia right now? Or have you seen what's happening to the price of copper in Mongolia? I would imagine that the price of copper in Mongolia is irrelevant to a person struggling for breath and dying in an NHS Wales Labour run medical facility. But if a lefty thinks it's more important - well, enough said. What about something else completely unrelated? Why do so many people on here keep saying that only lefties are against race hate? It's just down right weird. Considering that the thread concerns racism, it's not really unrelated is it?
To be clear. I'm just poking fun at your for your poor attempt to divert attention from the Tory party islamaphobia problems that this thread is about. If you were pretending to care about racism. You would at least address that issue.
You're clearly not, and only care about trying to divert attention from the conservative party.
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"https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-inquiry-alleged-tory-islamophobia-nusrat-ghani-claims-1419162 Nusrat Ghani '...the Wealden MP said she was told by a Government whip that she was sacked from her job as transport minister in February 2020 as her “Muslimnesss” made colleagues “uncomfortable”.' 'Ms Spencer also said Ms Ghani had raised the comments before and was invited to use the formal Conservative complaints procedure and declined in 2020. However, two Cabinet ministers – Nadhim Zahawi and Sajid Javid – said the serious allegations needed to be investigated. Several senior Conservatives including Jeremy Hunt, Tom Tugendhat and Steve Baker also called for an investigation. But the Government maintained it could not carry out a probe and again invited Ms Ghani to use the Tory complaints procedure.' 'But the MP, who had already revealed that she was warned at the time her career would be “destroyed” if she tried to complain, said a party process was “very clearly not appropriate for something that happened on Government business”. “All I have ever wanted was for his Government to take this seriously, investigate properly and ensure no other colleague has to endure this,” she said.' Finally forced to conduct a Cabinet Office review. The Chief whip is stating (by deleted and edited Tweet) that it didn't happen. At the same time as the office has been accused of bl@ckmailing MPs. How does that sound? Was it well handled? Should it have been investigated sooner? Was it ever appropriate for the Tory party to investigate this internally? Is this acceptable if true and what should be done if it is? I care not one jot what any other party did or might do. The question is about this matter now." In my opinion there would be no religion all it does is cause conflict. You have people who believe their god doesnt want you to use contraception or have abortions then others who think its ok then people who think their god (same one btw) wants you to mutilate you sons cock at a ceremony. You then have people who want to kill others if they even draw the person they worship or dont believe in him and then others who have multiple gods even one with an elephants head. All these people causing all sorts of conflict for a belief of some big guy in the sky, i find it unbelievable in this day and age that people are that gullible. | |||
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"Whilst I have no doubt that there are racists within Tory ranks, they would have to go some way to plumb the same foul depths of racism as the BNP or the Labour Party. As we all know, but some seem to selectively forget, the EHRC investigation found that the Labour Party had committed unlawful racist acts, but apart from booting Corbyn out, they have done little to progress since the ruling and Corbyn is still hanging around the side lines like a bad smell. I'm sure the usuals will call my post a deflection, but strangely, that always seems to be the case when the hypocrisy of the left is called out. Top notch deflection. What about that unrelated thing over there? By unrelated thing over there, could you possibly be referring to the Labour Party's horrendous mismanagement of NHS Wales, leaving patients to die in corridors and people to wait 4 days in A&E before a bed is found? A vote for Labour is a vote for an early death it seems, particularly in Wales. But like the tories mismanagement in England then? 110,000 shortage of staff in the NHS and even tens of thousand more in care homes leading to log jams of bed so patients unable to be treated die as they are either stuck in ambulances outside a hospital or die before an ambulance arrives. Stone, Glass houses and all that . On the original point despite repeated calls over the years for an enquiry into Tory Islamophobia the Tory party have never gotten to grips and allowed such and enquiry. So when Boris 18 months ago said take your concern to the people you are concerned about it doesn’t give any confidence on the open and honest front does it. Look at Labour isn’t a defence. " Professor Sanwar Singh did conduct an inquiry into alleged Conservative Islamaphobia in early 2021, if I remember correctly. | |||
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"Whilst I have no doubt that there are racists within Tory ranks, they would have to go some way to plumb the same foul depths of racism as the BNP or the Labour Party. As we all know, but some seem to selectively forget, the EHRC investigation found that the Labour Party had committed unlawful racist acts, but apart from booting Corbyn out, they have done little to progress since the ruling and Corbyn is still hanging around the side lines like a bad smell. I'm sure the usuals will call my post a deflection, but strangely, that always seems to be the case when the hypocrisy of the left is called out. Why don’t the raging right try and solve this problem rather that try and deflect ? It seems the righties don’t want to acknowledge they have a problem and are using the same old diversion tactics . Boris has been to a party in lockdown , yeah but we shouldn’t pay for the BBC or let’s use the Royal Navy to stop immigrants . Btw, are you Micheal Fabricant ? as I have said before we have the most diverse cabinet in British history so I’m not sure where the racism fits with that.As someone has brought brexit up on this thread how many meps are there now from the bame community since the uk has left?
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"yet PM Theresa May being a militant christian is acceptable to conservative unionionists. " As i said they are all the same believing in some pie in the sky theory. Personally i dont look at peoples religion when voting because i class them as all the same. | |||
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"yet PM Theresa May being a militant christian is acceptable to conservative unionionists. As i said they are all the same believing in some pie in the sky theory. Personally i dont look at peoples religion when voting because i class them as all the same." I only take notice of their religion if it impacts how they vote. IE J R Mogg saying he consistently votes against gay rights because of his Christian faith. | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys?" Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute!" Not forgetting a party chairman,a minister for business or international development secretary.  | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute!" Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort "How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable. | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable. "How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic "It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong. | |||
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"So one rather unremarkable junior minister gets the sack, like hundreds if not thousands before her. Then she plays the race card at what could be best described as at an opportunistic moment. Then the howls of derision flood in from the anti Semitic Labour party who then have the gall to accuse the Tories of deflection. You really couldn't make this shit up. Boris's political career is dead and buried. There is really no need to keep digging up the corpse and trying to kill it again." Typical Tory response, | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong. "It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . | |||
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"So one rather unremarkable junior minister gets the sack, like hundreds if not thousands before her. Then she plays the race card at what could be best described as at an opportunistic moment. Then the howls of derision flood in from the anti Semitic Labour party who then have the gall to accuse the Tories of deflection. You really couldn't make this shit up. Boris's political career is dead and buried. There is really no need to keep digging up the corpse and trying to kill it again." I very much enjoyed this ironic post. Using desperate diversion tactics, while at the same time, complaining about people using diversion tactics. Love it. It's a self dis. Bravo. | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . "yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced. It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token. | |||
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"So one rather unremarkable junior minister gets the sack, like hundreds if not thousands before her. Then she plays the race card at what could be best described as at an opportunistic moment. Then the howls of derision flood in from the anti Semitic Labour party who then have the gall to accuse the Tories of deflection. You really couldn't make this shit up. Boris's political career is dead and buried. There is really no need to keep digging up the corpse and trying to kill it again. I very much enjoyed this ironic post. Using desperate diversion tactics, while at the same time, complaining about people using diversion tactics. Love it. It's a self dis. Bravo." It was a ‘belter’ Boris is up to his neck in shit so let’s not investigate , | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token. "‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort "Have you read the article ? | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?"Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?
Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick "Of course i have thats how i know he was defending the right to wear a burka now how do you make that out to be Islamophobic? | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?
Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick Of course i have thats how i know he was defending the right to wear a burka now how do you make that out to be Islamophobic?"So he is stupid then, only somebody who is really thick would compare women wearing a burka with looking like a letter box. Anyway, he will be home home soon , the most inept , pathetic PM we have ever had | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?
Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick Of course i have thats how i know he was defending the right to wear a burka now how do you make that out to be Islamophobic?
So he is stupid then, only somebody who is really thick would compare women wearing a burka with looking like a letter box. Anyway, he will be home home soon , the most inept , pathetic PM we have ever had "*Will be gone soon | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?
Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick Of course i have thats how i know he was defending the right to wear a burka now how do you make that out to be Islamophobic?"Context is interesting. "Defending" their right to wear burquas whilst supporting the right for organisations to demand there removal and all done in the most derisive and critical way possible. It was not humour, it was political manipulation to excite a certain section of the electorate who are Islamophobic. He may well not be islamophobic or racist but has no issue encouraging and making use of those who are to serve his own ends. No, not all politicians do this. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45083275.amp 'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.' 'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber". "If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said. "If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran. "I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes." He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.' | |||
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"So one rather unremarkable junior minister gets the sack, like hundreds if not thousands before her. Then she plays the race card at what could be best described as at an opportunistic moment. Then the howls of derision flood in from the anti Semitic Labour party who then have the gall to accuse the Tories of deflection. You really couldn't make this shit up. Boris's political career is dead and buried. There is really no need to keep digging up the corpse and trying to kill it again." Isn’t the issue here she was told directly by a whip. she had lost the job due to her religion. That’s not relating to any endemic issue directly it’s referring to an accusation of simple racism. | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?
Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick Of course i have thats how i know he was defending the right to wear a burka now how do you make that out to be Islamophobic?
Context is interesting.
"Defending" their right to wear burquas whilst supporting the right for organisations to demand there removal and all done in the most derisive and critical way possible.
It was not humour, it was political manipulation to excite a certain section of the electorate who are Islamophobic.
He may well not be islamophobic or racist but has no issue encouraging and making use of those who are to serve his own ends. No, not all politicians do this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45083275.amp
'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.'
'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber".
"If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said.
"If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran.
"I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes."
He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.'"And Costa thinks this was said ‘as a joke’ | |||
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"So one rather unremarkable junior minister gets the sack, like hundreds if not thousands before her. Then she plays the race card at what could be best described as at an opportunistic moment. Then the howls of derision flood in from the anti Semitic Labour party who then have the gall to accuse the Tories of deflection. You really couldn't make this shit up. Boris's political career is dead and buried. There is really no need to keep digging up the corpse and trying to kill it again. Isn’t the issue here she was told directly by a whip. she had lost the job due to her religion. That’s not relating to any endemic issue directly it’s referring to an accusation of simple racism. " A bit more than that. It was not an individual being racist. It was apparently because she made others that she was working with "feel uncomfortable". Nothing to do with her performance or behaviour. Ask to leave a role, however junior, only because she was Muslim. | |||
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"So one rather unremarkable junior minister gets the sack, like hundreds if not thousands before her. Then she plays the race card at what could be best described as at an opportunistic moment. Then the howls of derision flood in from the anti Semitic Labour party who then have the gall to accuse the Tories of deflection. You really couldn't make this shit up. Boris's political career is dead and buried. There is really no need to keep digging up the corpse and trying to kill it again. Typical Tory response, " That from a typical Labour fan. | |||
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"So one rather unremarkable junior minister gets the sack, like hundreds if not thousands before her. Then she plays the race card at what could be best described as at an opportunistic moment. Then the howls of derision flood in from the anti Semitic Labour party who then have the gall to accuse the Tories of deflection. You really couldn't make this shit up. Boris's political career is dead and buried. There is really no need to keep digging up the corpse and trying to kill it again. Typical Tory response, That from a typical Labour fan." Typical Tory, don’t investigate because Boris is already up to his neck in shit, | |||
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"So one rather unremarkable junior minister gets the sack, like hundreds if not thousands before her. Then she plays the race card at what could be best described as at an opportunistic moment. Then the howls of derision flood in from the anti Semitic Labour party who then have the gall to accuse the Tories of deflection. You really couldn't make this shit up. Boris's political career is dead and buried. There is really no need to keep digging up the corpse and trying to kill it again. Typical Tory response, That from a typical Labour fan. Typical Tory, don’t investigate because Boris is already up to his neck in shit, "Why should it be investigated now? The alleged incident (which is streuously denied) was over a year ago. She didn't see fit to go public then, so why now? Could it be something to do with smelling blood now that Boris is well and truly in the middle of a shit storm of his own making? It's pretty much odds on that one of Boris's enemy's going to get the top job in a few weeks so what better way to get into someones good books and maybe get her job back? Either that or she has just seen a way of making the party scandal suddenly be all about her. Politicians are good at that you know. | |||
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"So one rather unremarkable junior minister gets the sack, like hundreds if not thousands before her. Then she plays the race card at what could be best described as at an opportunistic moment. Then the howls of derision flood in from the anti Semitic Labour party who then have the gall to accuse the Tories of deflection. You really couldn't make this shit up. Boris's political career is dead and buried. There is really no need to keep digging up the corpse and trying to kill it again. Typical Tory response, That from a typical Labour fan. Typical Tory, don’t investigate because Boris is already up to his neck in shit,
Why should it be investigated now?
The alleged incident (which is streuously denied) was over a year ago. She didn't see fit to go public then, so why now?
Could it be something to do with smelling blood now that Boris is well and truly in the middle of a shit storm of his own making?
It's pretty much odds on that one of Boris's enemy's going to get the top job in a few weeks so what better way to get into someones good books and maybe get her job back?
Either that or she has just seen a way of making the party scandal suddenly be all about her. Politicians are good at that you know."Muslim woman makes a complaint and you say she is playing the race card? Typical Tory response | |||
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"So one rather unremarkable junior minister gets the sack, like hundreds if not thousands before her. Then she plays the race card at what could be best described as at an opportunistic moment. Then the howls of derision flood in from the anti Semitic Labour party who then have the gall to accuse the Tories of deflection. You really couldn't make this shit up. Boris's political career is dead and buried. There is really no need to keep digging up the corpse and trying to kill it again. Isn’t the issue here she was told directly by a whip. she had lost the job due to her religion. That’s not relating to any endemic issue directly it’s referring to an accusation of simple racism. A bit more than that. It was not an individual being racist. It was apparently because she made others that she was working with "feel uncomfortable". Nothing to do with her performance or behaviour. Ask to leave a role, however junior, only because she was Muslim." Ok yes thanks for that. | |||
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"So one rather unremarkable junior minister gets the sack, like hundreds if not thousands before her. Then she plays the race card at what could be best described as at an opportunistic moment. Then the howls of derision flood in from the anti Semitic Labour party who then have the gall to accuse the Tories of deflection. You really couldn't make this shit up. Boris's political career is dead and buried. There is really no need to keep digging up the corpse and trying to kill it again. Typical Tory response, That from a typical Labour fan. Typical Tory, don’t investigate because Boris is already up to his neck in shit,
Why should it be investigated now?
The alleged incident (which is streuously denied) was over a year ago. She didn't see fit to go public then, so why now?
Could it be something to do with smelling blood now that Boris is well and truly in the middle of a shit storm of his own making?
It's pretty much odds on that one of Boris's enemy's going to get the top job in a few weeks so what better way to get into someones good books and maybe get her job back?
Either that or she has just seen a way of making the party scandal suddenly be all about her. Politicians are good at that you know."She claimed she made the accusation repeatedly through the usuals channels apparently to no avail so decided to go public . Pretty straight forward. | |||
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"So one rather unremarkable junior minister gets the sack, like hundreds if not thousands before her. Then she plays the race card at what could be best described as at an opportunistic moment. Then the howls of derision flood in from the anti Semitic Labour party who then have the gall to accuse the Tories of deflection. You really couldn't make this shit up. Boris's political career is dead and buried. There is really no need to keep digging up the corpse and trying to kill it again. Typical Tory response, That from a typical Labour fan. Typical Tory, don’t investigate because Boris is already up to his neck in shit,
Why should it be investigated now?
The alleged incident (which is streuously denied) was over a year ago. She didn't see fit to go public then, so why now?
Could it be something to do with smelling blood now that Boris is well and truly in the middle of a shit storm of his own making?
It's pretty much odds on that one of Boris's enemy's going to get the top job in a few weeks so what better way to get into someones good books and maybe get her job back?
Either that or she has just seen a way of making the party scandal suddenly be all about her. Politicians are good at that you know.
She claimed she made the accusation repeatedly through the usuals channels apparently to no avail so decided to go public . Pretty straight forward. "Apparently she is just ‘playing the race card’ | |||
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"So one rather unremarkable junior minister gets the sack, like hundreds if not thousands before her. Then she plays the race card at what could be best described as at an opportunistic moment. Then the howls of derision flood in from the anti Semitic Labour party who then have the gall to accuse the Tories of deflection. You really couldn't make this shit up. Boris's political career is dead and buried. There is really no need to keep digging up the corpse and trying to kill it again. Typical Tory response, That from a typical Labour fan. Typical Tory, don’t investigate because Boris is already up to his neck in shit,
Why should it be investigated now?
The alleged incident (which is streuously denied) was over a year ago. She didn't see fit to go public then, so why now?
Could it be something to do with smelling blood now that Boris is well and truly in the middle of a shit storm of his own making?
It's pretty much odds on that one of Boris's enemy's going to get the top job in a few weeks so what better way to get into someones good books and maybe get her job back?
Either that or she has just seen a way of making the party scandal suddenly be all about her. Politicians are good at that you know.
Muslim woman makes a complaint and you say she is playing the race card? Typical Tory response "How do you know that she isn't? We don't know whether or not the comment was made at all. And even if it was we have no idea of the context. Maybe she was allowing her religion to cloud her judgement. It wouldn't be the first time. However the one thing we can be sure of is that she didn't think it was worth making public until she spotted a possible advantage. | |||
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"So one rather unremarkable junior minister gets the sack, like hundreds if not thousands before her. Then she plays the race card at what could be best described as at an opportunistic moment. Then the howls of derision flood in from the anti Semitic Labour party who then have the gall to accuse the Tories of deflection. You really couldn't make this shit up. Boris's political career is dead and buried. There is really no need to keep digging up the corpse and trying to kill it again. Typical Tory response, That from a typical Labour fan. Typical Tory, don’t investigate because Boris is already up to his neck in shit,
Why should it be investigated now?
The alleged incident (which is streuously denied) was over a year ago. She didn't see fit to go public then, so why now?
Could it be something to do with smelling blood now that Boris is well and truly in the middle of a shit storm of his own making?
It's pretty much odds on that one of Boris's enemy's going to get the top job in a few weeks so what better way to get into someones good books and maybe get her job back?
Either that or she has just seen a way of making the party scandal suddenly be all about her. Politicians are good at that you know.
Muslim woman makes a complaint and you say she is playing the race card? Typical Tory response
How do you know that she isn't?
We don't know whether or not the comment was made at all. And even if it was we have no idea of the context. Maybe she was allowing her religion to cloud her judgement. It wouldn't be the first time.
However the one thing we can be sure of is that she didn't think it was worth making public until she spotted a possible advantage. "Why do you automatically assume she is ‘playing h the race card?? What evidence do you have to back up your claim? | |||
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"So one rather unremarkable junior minister gets the sack, like hundreds if not thousands before her. Then she plays the race card at what could be best described as at an opportunistic moment. Then the howls of derision flood in from the anti Semitic Labour party who then have the gall to accuse the Tories of deflection. You really couldn't make this shit up. Boris's political career is dead and buried. There is really no need to keep digging up the corpse and trying to kill it again. Typical Tory response, That from a typical Labour fan. Typical Tory, don’t investigate because Boris is already up to his neck in shit,
Why should it be investigated now?
The alleged incident (which is streuously denied) was over a year ago. She didn't see fit to go public then, so why now?
Could it be something to do with smelling blood now that Boris is well and truly in the middle of a shit storm of his own making?
It's pretty much odds on that one of Boris's enemy's going to get the top job in a few weeks so what better way to get into someones good books and maybe get her job back?
Either that or she has just seen a way of making the party scandal suddenly be all about her. Politicians are good at that you know.
Muslim woman makes a complaint and you say she is playing the race card? Typical Tory response
How do you know that she isn't?
We don't know whether or not the comment was made at all. And even if it was we have no idea of the context. Maybe she was allowing her religion to cloud her judgement. It wouldn't be the first time.
However the one thing we can be sure of is that she didn't think it was worth making public until she spotted a possible advantage.
Why do you automatically assume she is ‘playing h the race card?? What evidence do you have to back up your claim? "Why do you automatically assume that she isn't. What evidence do YOU have to back up your claim? All I know is that it's a very opportune moment to bring up something that didn't seem to bother her much at the time. Take off the red tinted glasses for a moment and look at what she is actually doing. Nowt like a bit of faux racism to drive the last nail into someones political coffin. | |||
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"So one rather unremarkable junior minister gets the sack, like hundreds if not thousands before her. Then she plays the race card at what could be best described as at an opportunistic moment. Then the howls of derision flood in from the anti Semitic Labour party who then have the gall to accuse the Tories of deflection. You really couldn't make this shit up. Boris's political career is dead and buried. There is really no need to keep digging up the corpse and trying to kill it again. Typical Tory response, That from a typical Labour fan. Typical Tory, don’t investigate because Boris is already up to his neck in shit,
Why should it be investigated now?
The alleged incident (which is streuously denied) was over a year ago. She didn't see fit to go public then, so why now?
Could it be something to do with smelling blood now that Boris is well and truly in the middle of a shit storm of his own making?
It's pretty much odds on that one of Boris's enemy's going to get the top job in a few weeks so what better way to get into someones good books and maybe get her job back?
Either that or she has just seen a way of making the party scandal suddenly be all about her. Politicians are good at that you know.
Muslim woman makes a complaint and you say she is playing the race card? Typical Tory response
How do you know that she isn't?
We don't know whether or not the comment was made at all. And even if it was we have no idea of the context. Maybe she was allowing her religion to cloud her judgement. It wouldn't be the first time.
However the one thing we can be sure of is that she didn't think it was worth making public until she spotted a possible advantage.
Why do you automatically assume she is ‘playing h the race card?? What evidence do you have to back up your claim?
Why do you automatically assume that she isn't.
What evidence do YOU have to back up your claim?
All I know is that it's a very opportune moment to bring up something that didn't seem to bother her much at the time.
Take off the red tinted glasses for a moment and look at what she is actually doing. Nowt like a bit of faux racism to drive the last nail into someones political coffin."You made the claim, you back it up . Why would you automatically assume , with absolutely no evidence , that she is ‘playing the race card’ ? Be brave , give us the real reason | |||
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"So one rather unremarkable junior minister gets the sack, like hundreds if not thousands before her. Then she plays the race card at what could be best described as at an opportunistic moment. Then the howls of derision flood in from the anti Semitic Labour party who then have the gall to accuse the Tories of deflection. You really couldn't make this shit up. Boris's political career is dead and buried. There is really no need to keep digging up the corpse and trying to kill it again. Typical Tory response, That from a typical Labour fan. Typical Tory, don’t investigate because Boris is already up to his neck in shit,
Why should it be investigated now?
The alleged incident (which is streuously denied) was over a year ago. She didn't see fit to go public then, so why now?
Could it be something to do with smelling blood now that Boris is well and truly in the middle of a shit storm of his own making?
It's pretty much odds on that one of Boris's enemy's going to get the top job in a few weeks so what better way to get into someones good books and maybe get her job back?
Either that or she has just seen a way of making the party scandal suddenly be all about her. Politicians are good at that you know.
Muslim woman makes a complaint and you say she is playing the race card? Typical Tory response
How do you know that she isn't?
We don't know whether or not the comment was made at all. And even if it was we have no idea of the context. Maybe she was allowing her religion to cloud her judgement. It wouldn't be the first time.
However the one thing we can be sure of is that she didn't think it was worth making public until she spotted a possible advantage.
Why do you automatically assume she is ‘playing h the race card?? What evidence do you have to back up your claim?
Why do you automatically assume that she isn't.
What evidence do YOU have to back up your claim?
All I know is that it's a very opportune moment to bring up something that didn't seem to bother her much at the time.
Take off the red tinted glasses for a moment and look at what she is actually doing. Nowt like a bit of faux racism to drive the last nail into someones political coffin.
You made the claim, you back it up . Why would you automatically assume , with absolutely no evidence , that she is ‘playing the race card’ ? Be brave , give us the real reason "Well it seems to be your default position that no-ne ever plays the race card. A lot do you know. Had she gone public with it at the time then she would have had a lot more credibility. She didn't and now she has. Personally I think it's the only explanation. Play the race card to nuke Boris then use it to get herself back into government with the new boss. It's not exactly an unheard of tactic. Anyway, on here we all express opinions, that's mine and I'm fully entitled to it. In the fullness of time let's see who is right and who is wrong. Should I be proved correct then I'm sure you will rush to write a full apology on here. But I won't wait with baited breath. | |||
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"So one rather unremarkable junior minister gets the sack, like hundreds if not thousands before her. Then she plays the race card at what could be best described as at an opportunistic moment. Then the howls of derision flood in from the anti Semitic Labour party who then have the gall to accuse the Tories of deflection. You really couldn't make this shit up. Boris's political career is dead and buried. There is really no need to keep digging up the corpse and trying to kill it again. Typical Tory response, That from a typical Labour fan. Typical Tory, don’t investigate because Boris is already up to his neck in shit,
Why should it be investigated now?
The alleged incident (which is streuously denied) was over a year ago. She didn't see fit to go public then, so why now?
Could it be something to do with smelling blood now that Boris is well and truly in the middle of a shit storm of his own making?
It's pretty much odds on that one of Boris's enemy's going to get the top job in a few weeks so what better way to get into someones good books and maybe get her job back?
Either that or she has just seen a way of making the party scandal suddenly be all about her. Politicians are good at that you know.
Muslim woman makes a complaint and you say she is playing the race card? Typical Tory response
How do you know that she isn't?
We don't know whether or not the comment was made at all. And even if it was we have no idea of the context. Maybe she was allowing her religion to cloud her judgement. It wouldn't be the first time.
However the one thing we can be sure of is that she didn't think it was worth making public until she spotted a possible advantage.
Why do you automatically assume she is ‘playing h the race card?? What evidence do you have to back up your claim?
Why do you automatically assume that she isn't.
What evidence do YOU have to back up your claim?
All I know is that it's a very opportune moment to bring up something that didn't seem to bother her much at the time.
Take off the red tinted glasses for a moment and look at what she is actually doing. Nowt like a bit of faux racism to drive the last nail into someones political coffin.
You made the claim, you back it up . Why would you automatically assume , with absolutely no evidence , that she is ‘playing the race card’ ? Be brave , give us the real reason
Well it seems to be your default position that no-ne ever plays the race card. A lot do you know.
Had she gone public with it at the time then she would have had a lot more credibility. She didn't and now she has.
Personally I think it's the only explanation.
Play the race card to nuke Boris then use it to get herself back into government with the new boss.
It's not exactly an unheard of tactic.
Anyway, on here we all express opinions, that's mine and I'm fully entitled to it. In the fullness of time let's see who is right and who is wrong.
Should I be proved correct then I'm sure you will rush to write a full apology on here. But I won't wait with baited breath.
"Like I said at the start , typical Tory response to accusations of racism and Islamophobia in the party, it’s just someone ‘playing the race card ‘ | |||
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"So one rather unremarkable junior minister gets the sack, like hundreds if not thousands before her. Then she plays the race card at what could be best described as at an opportunistic moment. Then the howls of derision flood in from the anti Semitic Labour party who then have the gall to accuse the Tories of deflection. You really couldn't make this shit up. Boris's political career is dead and buried. There is really no need to keep digging up the corpse and trying to kill it again. Typical Tory response, That from a typical Labour fan. Typical Tory, don’t investigate because Boris is already up to his neck in shit,
Why should it be investigated now?
The alleged incident (which is streuously denied) was over a year ago. She didn't see fit to go public then, so why now?
Could it be something to do with smelling blood now that Boris is well and truly in the middle of a shit storm of his own making?
It's pretty much odds on that one of Boris's enemy's going to get the top job in a few weeks so what better way to get into someones good books and maybe get her job back?
Either that or she has just seen a way of making the party scandal suddenly be all about her. Politicians are good at that you know.
Muslim woman makes a complaint and you say she is playing the race card? Typical Tory response
How do you know that she isn't?
We don't know whether or not the comment was made at all. And even if it was we have no idea of the context. Maybe she was allowing her religion to cloud her judgement. It wouldn't be the first time.
However the one thing we can be sure of is that she didn't think it was worth making public until she spotted a possible advantage.
Why do you automatically assume she is ‘playing h the race card?? What evidence do you have to back up your claim?
Why do you automatically assume that she isn't.
What evidence do YOU have to back up your claim?
All I know is that it's a very opportune moment to bring up something that didn't seem to bother her much at the time.
Take off the red tinted glasses for a moment and look at what she is actually doing. Nowt like a bit of faux racism to drive the last nail into someones political coffin.
You made the claim, you back it up . Why would you automatically assume , with absolutely no evidence , that she is ‘playing the race card’ ? Be brave , give us the real reason
Well it seems to be your default position that no-ne ever plays the race card. A lot do you know.
Had she gone public with it at the time then she would have had a lot more credibility. She didn't and now she has.
Personally I think it's the only explanation.
Play the race card to nuke Boris then use it to get herself back into government with the new boss.
It's not exactly an unheard of tactic.
Anyway, on here we all express opinions, that's mine and I'm fully entitled to it. In the fullness of time let's see who is right and who is wrong.
Should I be proved correct then I'm sure you will rush to write a full apology on here. But I won't wait with baited breath.
Like I said at the start , typical Tory response to accusations of racism and Islamophobia in the party, it’s just someone ‘playing the race card ‘ "And the typical Labour response to accusations of Anti Semitism is? Jeez there have been so many it's hard to remember them all. | |||
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"So one rather unremarkable junior minister gets the sack, like hundreds if not thousands before her. Then she plays the race card at what could be best described as at an opportunistic moment. Then the howls of derision flood in from the anti Semitic Labour party who then have the gall to accuse the Tories of deflection. You really couldn't make this shit up. Boris's political career is dead and buried. There is really no need to keep digging up the corpse and trying to kill it again. Typical Tory response, That from a typical Labour fan. Typical Tory, don’t investigate because Boris is already up to his neck in shit,
Why should it be investigated now?
The alleged incident (which is streuously denied) was over a year ago. She didn't see fit to go public then, so why now?
Could it be something to do with smelling blood now that Boris is well and truly in the middle of a shit storm of his own making?
It's pretty much odds on that one of Boris's enemy's going to get the top job in a few weeks so what better way to get into someones good books and maybe get her job back?
Either that or she has just seen a way of making the party scandal suddenly be all about her. Politicians are good at that you know.
Muslim woman makes a complaint and you say she is playing the race card? Typical Tory response
How do you know that she isn't?
We don't know whether or not the comment was made at all. And even if it was we have no idea of the context. Maybe she was allowing her religion to cloud her judgement. It wouldn't be the first time.
However the one thing we can be sure of is that she didn't think it was worth making public until she spotted a possible advantage.
Why do you automatically assume she is ‘playing h the race card?? What evidence do you have to back up your claim?
Why do you automatically assume that she isn't.
What evidence do YOU have to back up your claim?
All I know is that it's a very opportune moment to bring up something that didn't seem to bother her much at the time.
Take off the red tinted glasses for a moment and look at what she is actually doing. Nowt like a bit of faux racism to drive the last nail into someones political coffin.
You made the claim, you back it up . Why would you automatically assume , with absolutely no evidence , that she is ‘playing the race card’ ? Be brave , give us the real reason
Well it seems to be your default position that no-ne ever plays the race card. A lot do you know.
Had she gone public with it at the time then she would have had a lot more credibility. She didn't and now she has.
Personally I think it's the only explanation.
Play the race card to nuke Boris then use it to get herself back into government with the new boss.
It's not exactly an unheard of tactic.
Anyway, on here we all express opinions, that's mine and I'm fully entitled to it. In the fullness of time let's see who is right and who is wrong.
Should I be proved correct then I'm sure you will rush to write a full apology on here. But I won't wait with baited breath.
Like I said at the start , typical Tory response to accusations of racism and Islamophobia in the party, it’s just someone ‘playing the race card ‘
And the typical Labour response to accusations of Anti Semitism is?
Jeez there have been so many it's hard to remember them all."The typical response is take it serious, don’t claim someone is playing the race card, have an independent review abs get rid of anyone who is found to be antisemetic , are you deflecting again | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?
Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick Of course i have thats how i know he was defending the right to wear a burka now how do you make that out to be Islamophobic?
So he is stupid then, only somebody who is really thick would compare women wearing a burka with looking like a letter box. Anyway, he will be home home soon , the most inept , pathetic PM we have ever had "So did you agree with the article he wrote or did you disagree? | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?
Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick Of course i have thats how i know he was defending the right to wear a burka now how do you make that out to be Islamophobic?
So he is stupid then, only somebody who is really thick would compare women wearing a burka with looking like a letter box. Anyway, he will be home home soon , the most inept , pathetic PM we have ever had So did you agree with the article he wrote or did you disagree?"I refer you to the post by Easy, have a read | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?
Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick Of course i have thats how i know he was defending the right to wear a burka now how do you make that out to be Islamophobic?
So he is stupid then, only somebody who is really thick would compare women wearing a burka with looking like a letter box. Anyway, he will be home home soon , the most inept , pathetic PM we have ever had So did you agree with the article he wrote or did you disagree?
I refer you to the post by Easy, have a read "What cant you answer for yourself now? its a simple question did you agree or not agree with what was written. | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?
Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick Of course i have thats how i know he was defending the right to wear a burka now how do you make that out to be Islamophobic?
So he is stupid then, only somebody who is really thick would compare women wearing a burka with looking like a letter box. Anyway, he will be home home soon , the most inept , pathetic PM we have ever had So did you agree with the article he wrote or did you disagree?
I refer you to the post by Easy, have a read What cant you answer for yourself now? its a simple question did you agree or not agree with what was written."Context is interesting. "Defending" their right to wear burquas whilst supporting the right for organisations to demand there removal and all done in the most derisive and critical way possible. It was not humour, it was political manipulation to excite a certain section of the electorate who are Islamophobic. He may well not be islamophobic or racist but has no issue encouraging and making use of those who are to serve his own ends. No, not all politicians do this. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45083275.amp 'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.' 'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber". "If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said. "If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran. "I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes." He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.' This | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?
Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick Of course i have thats how i know he was defending the right to wear a burka now how do you make that out to be Islamophobic?
So he is stupid then, only somebody who is really thick would compare women wearing a burka with looking like a letter box. Anyway, he will be home home soon , the most inept , pathetic PM we have ever had So did you agree with the article he wrote or did you disagree?
I refer you to the post by Easy, have a read What cant you answer for yourself now? its a simple question did you agree or not agree with what was written.
Context is interesting.
"Defending" their right to wear burquas whilst supporting the right for organisations to demand there removal and all done in the most derisive and critical way possible.
It was not humour, it was political manipulation to excite a certain section of the electorate who are Islamophobic.
He may well not be islamophobic or racist but has no issue encouraging and making use of those who are to serve his own ends. No, not all politicians do this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45083275.amp
'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.'
'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber".
"If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said.
"If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran.
"I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes."
He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.'
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?
Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick "Either? | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?
Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick
Either?"I don't thinks he's stupid. He's knows people will vote for him whatever he does and says. He simply doesn't give a flying fuck is people don't like his islamaphobia. The Tories will get voted in again. They know it. | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?
Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick Of course i have thats how i know he was defending the right to wear a burka now how do you make that out to be Islamophobic?
So he is stupid then, only somebody who is really thick would compare women wearing a burka with looking like a letter box. Anyway, he will be home home soon , the most inept , pathetic PM we have ever had So did you agree with the article he wrote or did you disagree?
I refer you to the post by Easy, have a read What cant you answer for yourself now? its a simple question did you agree or not agree with what was written.
Context is interesting.
"Defending" their right to wear burquas whilst supporting the right for organisations to demand there removal and all done in the most derisive and critical way possible.
It was not humour, it was political manipulation to excite a certain section of the electorate who are Islamophobic.
He may well not be islamophobic or racist but has no issue encouraging and making use of those who are to serve his own ends. No, not all politicians do this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45083275.amp
'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.'
'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber".
"If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said.
"If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran.
"I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes."
He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.'
This I read his post before you dont need to copy and paste it so do you agree with the article or not its an easy question."Agree with the article? What do you mean? Agree with it being published? The content ? What Boris said ? do you think Boris should have said Muslim women in burkas look like letterboxes? Yes or no? | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?
Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick
Either?
I don't thinks he's stupid. He's knows people will vote for him whatever he does and says. He simply doesn't give a flying fuck is people don't like his islamaphobia. The Tories will get voted in again. They know it. "Fair comment, so he isn’t stupid but he thinks the people who support him are? Makes sense | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?
Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick Of course i have thats how i know he was defending the right to wear a burka now how do you make that out to be Islamophobic?
So he is stupid then, only somebody who is really thick would compare women wearing a burka with looking like a letter box. Anyway, he will be home home soon , the most inept , pathetic PM we have ever had So did you agree with the article he wrote or did you disagree?
I refer you to the post by Easy, have a read What cant you answer for yourself now? its a simple question did you agree or not agree with what was written.
Context is interesting.
"Defending" their right to wear burquas whilst supporting the right for organisations to demand there removal and all done in the most derisive and critical way possible.
It was not humour, it was political manipulation to excite a certain section of the electorate who are Islamophobic.
He may well not be islamophobic or racist but has no issue encouraging and making use of those who are to serve his own ends. No, not all politicians do this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45083275.amp
'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.'
'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber".
"If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said.
"If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran.
"I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes."
He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.'
This I read his post before you dont need to copy and paste it so do you agree with the article or not its an easy question.
Agree with the article? What do you mean? Agree with it being published? The content ? What Boris said ? do you think Boris should have said Muslim women in burkas look like letterboxes? Yes or no? "Dont act dumb or are you trying to deflect? what he said is the content | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?
Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick Of course i have thats how i know he was defending the right to wear a burka now how do you make that out to be Islamophobic?
So he is stupid then, only somebody who is really thick would compare women wearing a burka with looking like a letter box. Anyway, he will be home home soon , the most inept , pathetic PM we have ever had So did you agree with the article he wrote or did you disagree?
I refer you to the post by Easy, have a read What cant you answer for yourself now? its a simple question did you agree or not agree with what was written.
Context is interesting.
"Defending" their right to wear burquas whilst supporting the right for organisations to demand there removal and all done in the most derisive and critical way possible.
It was not humour, it was political manipulation to excite a certain section of the electorate who are Islamophobic.
He may well not be islamophobic or racist but has no issue encouraging and making use of those who are to serve his own ends. No, not all politicians do this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45083275.amp
'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.'
'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber".
"If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said.
"If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran.
"I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes."
He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.'
This I read his post before you dont need to copy and paste it so do you agree with the article or not its an easy question.
Agree with the article? What do you mean? Agree with it being published? The content ? What Boris said ? do you think Boris should have said Muslim women in burkas look like letterboxes? Yes or no? Dont act dumb or are you trying to deflect? what he said is the content "No , I don’t think it was right or correct in that context , why did he have to say it? Wasn’t it really necessary ? | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?
Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick Of course i have thats how i know he was defending the right to wear a burka now how do you make that out to be Islamophobic?
So he is stupid then, only somebody who is really thick would compare women wearing a burka with looking like a letter box. Anyway, he will be home home soon , the most inept , pathetic PM we have ever had So did you agree with the article he wrote or did you disagree?
I refer you to the post by Easy, have a read What cant you answer for yourself now? its a simple question did you agree or not agree with what was written.
Context is interesting.
"Defending" their right to wear burquas whilst supporting the right for organisations to demand there removal and all done in the most derisive and critical way possible.
It was not humour, it was political manipulation to excite a certain section of the electorate who are Islamophobic.
He may well not be islamophobic or racist but has no issue encouraging and making use of those who are to serve his own ends. No, not all politicians do this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45083275.amp
'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.'
'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber".
"If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said.
"If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran.
"I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes."
He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.'
This I read his post before you dont need to copy and paste it so do you agree with the article or not its an easy question.
Agree with the article? What do you mean? Agree with it being published? The content ? What Boris said ? do you think Boris should have said Muslim women in burkas look like letterboxes? Yes or no? Dont act dumb or are you trying to deflect? what he said is the content
No , I don’t think it was right or correct in that context , why did he have to say it? Wasn’t it really necessary ? "so you dont think they have a right to wear one then or that businesses should have the right to see the faces of the people they are dealing with. Interesting. | |||
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"Whilst I have no doubt that there are racists within Tory ranks, they would have to go some way to plumb the same foul depths of racism as the BNP or the Labour Party. As we all know, but some seem to selectively forget, the EHRC investigation found that the Labour Party had committed unlawful racist acts, but apart from booting Corbyn out, they have done little to progress since the ruling and Corbyn is still hanging around the side lines like a bad smell. I'm sure the usuals will call my post a deflection, but strangely, that always seems to be the case when the hypocrisy of the left is called out. Top notch deflection. What about that unrelated thing over there? By unrelated thing over there, could you possibly be referring to the Labour Party's horrendous mismanagement of NHS Wales, leaving patients to die in corridors and people to wait 4 days in A&E before a bed is found? A vote for Labour is a vote for an early death it seems, particularly in Wales. What about the situation in Patagonia right now? Or have you seen what's happening to the price of copper in Mongolia? I would imagine that the price of copper in Mongolia is irrelevant to a person struggling for breath and dying in an NHS Wales Labour run medical facility. But if a lefty thinks it's more important - well, enough said. What about something else completely unrelated? Why do so many people on here keep saying that only lefties are against race hate? It's just down right weird. Considering that the thread concerns racism, it's not really unrelated is it?
To be clear. I'm just poking fun at your for your poor attempt to divert attention from the Tory party islamaphobia problems that this thread is about. If you were pretending to care about racism. You would at least address that issue.
You're clearly not, and only care about trying to divert attention from the conservative party.
Which is fine. But I'm allowed to poke fun at you for it. Because you're being so obvious.
No, you're way off target. Never heard the expression "people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"? The Labour Party and its voters live in such a house. Few, if any, have ever apologised for, acknowledged or even know of the Labour Party's racist shame. I've even heard a lefty moron say that it wasn't racism because Jews aren't black. Labour is officially a proven racist party. Those who support a proven racist party are obviously racists themselves, without question, but are incapable of acknowledging that fact. Oh, and btw - I consider "poking fun" at me to be abusive, something not allowed under forum rules. Knowledge is everything. " this! | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?
Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick Of course i have thats how i know he was defending the right to wear a burka now how do you make that out to be Islamophobic?
So he is stupid then, only somebody who is really thick would compare women wearing a burka with looking like a letter box. Anyway, he will be home home soon , the most inept , pathetic PM we have ever had So did you agree with the article he wrote or did you disagree?
I refer you to the post by Easy, have a read What cant you answer for yourself now? its a simple question did you agree or not agree with what was written.
Context is interesting.
"Defending" their right to wear burquas whilst supporting the right for organisations to demand there removal and all done in the most derisive and critical way possible.
It was not humour, it was political manipulation to excite a certain section of the electorate who are Islamophobic.
He may well not be islamophobic or racist but has no issue encouraging and making use of those who are to serve his own ends. No, not all politicians do this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45083275.amp
'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.'
'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber".
"If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said.
"If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran.
"I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes."
He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.'
This I read his post before you dont need to copy and paste it so do you agree with the article or not its an easy question.
Agree with the article? What do you mean? Agree with it being published? The content ? What Boris said ? do you think Boris should have said Muslim women in burkas look like letterboxes? Yes or no? Dont act dumb or are you trying to deflect? what he said is the content
No , I don’t think it was right or correct in that context , why did he have to say it? Wasn’t it really necessary ? so you dont think they have a right to wear one then or that businesses should have the right to see the faces of the people they are dealing with. Interesting."Have businesses "had the right" to see people's faces for the last two years? I, personally, really do not like a cultural expectation to wear a burqa. However, do you really believe that this article was intended to be a humorous and not intended to get a certain group of people behind him for his run at party leader? You do not believe that this was intended to be insulting and derisive? | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?
Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick Of course i have thats how i know he was defending the right to wear a burka now how do you make that out to be Islamophobic?" | |||
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"In the main political parties, we’ve seen different types of racism, whilst everyone was focused on labours anti semitism and rightly so I may add, we let tory islamaphobia go unchecked. As a result it has festered even more, time for the tories to clean house, starting with their leader and purging the party of its more extreme elements. If it sweeps this under the carpet or does some biased “investigation” which gets them off the hook, then we know the party has trully lost its way and needs to be replaced with better people, to stop the rot in our country." Spot on | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?
Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick Of course i have thats how i know he was defending the right to wear a burka now how do you make that out to be Islamophobic?
So he is stupid then, only somebody who is really thick would compare women wearing a burka with looking like a letter box. Anyway, he will be home home soon , the most inept , pathetic PM we have ever had So did you agree with the article he wrote or did you disagree?
I refer you to the post by Easy, have a read What cant you answer for yourself now? its a simple question did you agree or not agree with what was written.
Context is interesting.
"Defending" their right to wear burquas whilst supporting the right for organisations to demand there removal and all done in the most derisive and critical way possible.
It was not humour, it was political manipulation to excite a certain section of the electorate who are Islamophobic.
He may well not be islamophobic or racist but has no issue encouraging and making use of those who are to serve his own ends. No, not all politicians do this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45083275.amp
'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.'
'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber".
"If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said.
"If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran.
"I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes."
He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.'
This I read his post before you dont need to copy and paste it so do you agree with the article or not its an easy question.
Agree with the article? What do you mean? Agree with it being published? The content ? What Boris said ? do you think Boris should have said Muslim women in burkas look like letterboxes? Yes or no? Dont act dumb or are you trying to deflect? what he said is the content
No , I don’t think it was right or correct in that context , why did he have to say it? Wasn’t it really necessary ? so you dont think they have a right to wear one then or that businesses should have the right to see the faces of the people they are dealing with. Interesting."I don’t think he should have used the term ‘looking like letter boxes’ obviously you do, interesting | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?
Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick Of course i have thats how i know he was defending the right to wear a burka now how do you make that out to be Islamophobic?
So he is stupid then, only somebody who is really thick would compare women wearing a burka with looking like a letter box. Anyway, he will be home home soon , the most inept , pathetic PM we have ever had So did you agree with the article he wrote or did you disagree?
I refer you to the post by Easy, have a read What cant you answer for yourself now? its a simple question did you agree or not agree with what was written.
Context is interesting.
"Defending" their right to wear burquas whilst supporting the right for organisations to demand there removal and all done in the most derisive and critical way possible.
It was not humour, it was political manipulation to excite a certain section of the electorate who are Islamophobic.
He may well not be islamophobic or racist but has no issue encouraging and making use of those who are to serve his own ends. No, not all politicians do this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45083275.amp
'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.'
'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber".
"If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said.
"If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran.
"I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes."
He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.'
This I read his post before you dont need to copy and paste it so do you agree with the article or not its an easy question.
Agree with the article? What do you mean? Agree with it being published? The content ? What Boris said ? do you think Boris should have said Muslim women in burkas look like letterboxes? Yes or no? Dont act dumb or are you trying to deflect? what he said is the content
No , I don’t think it was right or correct in that context , why did he have to say it? Wasn’t it really necessary ? so you dont think they have a right to wear one then or that businesses should have the right to see the faces of the people they are dealing with. Interesting.
I don’t think he should have used the term ‘looking like letter boxes’ obviously you do, interesting "It doesnt bother me no, but im not out looking to be offended every time someone says or writes something. | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?
Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick Of course i have thats how i know he was defending the right to wear a burka now how do you make that out to be Islamophobic?
So he is stupid then, only somebody who is really thick would compare women wearing a burka with looking like a letter box. Anyway, he will be home home soon , the most inept , pathetic PM we have ever had So did you agree with the article he wrote or did you disagree?
I refer you to the post by Easy, have a read What cant you answer for yourself now? its a simple question did you agree or not agree with what was written.
Context is interesting.
"Defending" their right to wear burquas whilst supporting the right for organisations to demand there removal and all done in the most derisive and critical way possible.
It was not humour, it was political manipulation to excite a certain section of the electorate who are Islamophobic.
He may well not be islamophobic or racist but has no issue encouraging and making use of those who are to serve his own ends. No, not all politicians do this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45083275.amp
'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.'
'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber".
"If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said.
"If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran.
"I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes."
He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.'
This I read his post before you dont need to copy and paste it so do you agree with the article or not its an easy question.
Agree with the article? What do you mean? Agree with it being published? The content ? What Boris said ? do you think Boris should have said Muslim women in burkas look like letterboxes? Yes or no? Dont act dumb or are you trying to deflect? what he said is the content
No , I don’t think it was right or correct in that context , why did he have to say it? Wasn’t it really necessary ? so you dont think they have a right to wear one then or that businesses should have the right to see the faces of the people they are dealing with. Interesting.
I don’t think he should have used the term ‘looking like letter boxes’ obviously you do, interesting It doesnt bother me no, but im not out looking to be offended every time someone says or writes something."Obviously, your a die hard Tory , your to busy getting offended by immigrants, bbc licence and people pulling down statues of sl*ve traders | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?
Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick Of course i have thats how i know he was defending the right to wear a burka now how do you make that out to be Islamophobic?
So he is stupid then, only somebody who is really thick would compare women wearing a burka with looking like a letter box. Anyway, he will be home home soon , the most inept , pathetic PM we have ever had So did you agree with the article he wrote or did you disagree?
I refer you to the post by Easy, have a read What cant you answer for yourself now? its a simple question did you agree or not agree with what was written.
Context is interesting.
"Defending" their right to wear burquas whilst supporting the right for organisations to demand there removal and all done in the most derisive and critical way possible.
It was not humour, it was political manipulation to excite a certain section of the electorate who are Islamophobic.
He may well not be islamophobic or racist but has no issue encouraging and making use of those who are to serve his own ends. No, not all politicians do this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45083275.amp
'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.'
'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber".
"If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said.
"If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran.
"I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes."
He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.'
This I read his post before you dont need to copy and paste it so do you agree with the article or not its an easy question.
Agree with the article? What do you mean? Agree with it being published? The content ? What Boris said ? do you think Boris should have said Muslim women in burkas look like letterboxes? Yes or no? Dont act dumb or are you trying to deflect? what he said is the content
No , I don’t think it was right or correct in that context , why did he have to say it? Wasn’t it really necessary ? so you dont think they have a right to wear one then or that businesses should have the right to see the faces of the people they are dealing with. Interesting.
I don’t think he should have used the term ‘looking like letter boxes’ obviously you do, interesting It doesnt bother me no, but im not out looking to be offended every time someone says or writes something.
Obviously, your a die hard Tory , your to busy getting offended by immigrants, bbc licence and people pulling down statues of sl*ve traders "Is that your idea of a tory no wonder you are so confused. | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?
Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick Of course i have thats how i know he was defending the right to wear a burka now how do you make that out to be Islamophobic?
So he is stupid then, only somebody who is really thick would compare women wearing a burka with looking like a letter box. Anyway, he will be home home soon , the most inept , pathetic PM we have ever had So did you agree with the article he wrote or did you disagree?
I refer you to the post by Easy, have a read What cant you answer for yourself now? its a simple question did you agree or not agree with what was written.
Context is interesting.
"Defending" their right to wear burquas whilst supporting the right for organisations to demand there removal and all done in the most derisive and critical way possible.
It was not humour, it was political manipulation to excite a certain section of the electorate who are Islamophobic.
He may well not be islamophobic or racist but has no issue encouraging and making use of those who are to serve his own ends. No, not all politicians do this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45083275.amp
'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.'
'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber".
"If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said.
"If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran.
"I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes."
He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.'
This I read his post before you dont need to copy and paste it so do you agree with the article or not its an easy question.
Agree with the article? What do you mean? Agree with it being published? The content ? What Boris said ? do you think Boris should have said Muslim women in burkas look like letterboxes? Yes or no? Dont act dumb or are you trying to deflect? what he said is the content
No , I don’t think it was right or correct in that context , why did he have to say it? Wasn’t it really necessary ? so you dont think they have a right to wear one then or that businesses should have the right to see the faces of the people they are dealing with. Interesting.
I don’t think he should have used the term ‘looking like letter boxes’ obviously you do, interesting It doesnt bother me no, but im not out looking to be offended every time someone says or writes something.
Obviously, your a die hard Tory , your to busy getting offended by immigrants, bbc licence and people pulling down statues of sl*ve traders Is that your idea of a tory no wonder you are so confused. "A ‘die hard ‘ Tory, you and your fellow Tories on here have already proved my point, you think it’s acceptable for Boris to say women in burkas look like letter boxes and the other thinks a Muslim woman complaining about islamophabia is playing the race card, yet you both get offended by immigrant in the channel ? | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?
Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick Of course i have thats how i know he was defending the right to wear a burka now how do you make that out to be Islamophobic?
So he is stupid then, only somebody who is really thick would compare women wearing a burka with looking like a letter box. Anyway, he will be home home soon , the most inept , pathetic PM we have ever had So did you agree with the article he wrote or did you disagree?
I refer you to the post by Easy, have a read What cant you answer for yourself now? its a simple question did you agree or not agree with what was written.
Context is interesting.
"Defending" their right to wear burquas whilst supporting the right for organisations to demand there removal and all done in the most derisive and critical way possible.
It was not humour, it was political manipulation to excite a certain section of the electorate who are Islamophobic.
He may well not be islamophobic or racist but has no issue encouraging and making use of those who are to serve his own ends. No, not all politicians do this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45083275.amp
'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.'
'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber".
"If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said.
"If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran.
"I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes."
He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.'
This I read his post before you dont need to copy and paste it so do you agree with the article or not its an easy question.
Agree with the article? What do you mean? Agree with it being published? The content ? What Boris said ? do you think Boris should have said Muslim women in burkas look like letterboxes? Yes or no? Dont act dumb or are you trying to deflect? what he said is the content
No , I don’t think it was right or correct in that context , why did he have to say it? Wasn’t it really necessary ? so you dont think they have a right to wear one then or that businesses should have the right to see the faces of the people they are dealing with. Interesting.
I don’t think he should have used the term ‘looking like letter boxes’ obviously you do, interesting It doesnt bother me no, but im not out looking to be offended every time someone says or writes something.
Obviously, your a die hard Tory , your to busy getting offended by immigrants, bbc licence and people pulling down statues of sl*ve traders Is that your idea of a tory no wonder you are so confused.
A ‘die hard ‘ Tory, you and your fellow Tories on here have already proved my point, you think it’s acceptable for Boris to say women in burkas look like letter boxes and the other thinks a Muslim woman complaining about islamophabia is playing the race card, yet you both get offended by immigrant in the channel ? "sorry to disappoint you but i made no such comment about anyone playing the race card and as i said i dont go out looking to be offended on other peoples behalf and no im not offended by the remark as the whole article was in defence of such women. You might want to look at the way you think with your generalisation of people who vote a certain though.People from all walks of life and contrasting views vote for the core beliefs of a party nothing else but you cannot seem to see that.You may also want to look at what you find offensive too, you are getting all hot under the collar about letter boxes but as i recall in the past have no problem calling people gammons which i personally dont find offensive but im sure some might.I think your faux outrage is more about who said it than what was actually said. | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?
Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick Of course i have thats how i know he was defending the right to wear a burka now how do you make that out to be Islamophobic?
So he is stupid then, only somebody who is really thick would compare women wearing a burka with looking like a letter box. Anyway, he will be home home soon , the most inept , pathetic PM we have ever had So did you agree with the article he wrote or did you disagree?
I refer you to the post by Easy, have a read What cant you answer for yourself now? its a simple question did you agree or not agree with what was written.
Context is interesting.
"Defending" their right to wear burquas whilst supporting the right for organisations to demand there removal and all done in the most derisive and critical way possible.
It was not humour, it was political manipulation to excite a certain section of the electorate who are Islamophobic.
He may well not be islamophobic or racist but has no issue encouraging and making use of those who are to serve his own ends. No, not all politicians do this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45083275.amp
'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.'
'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber".
"If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said.
"If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran.
"I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes."
He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.'
This I read his post before you dont need to copy and paste it so do you agree with the article or not its an easy question.
Agree with the article? What do you mean? Agree with it being published? The content ? What Boris said ? do you think Boris should have said Muslim women in burkas look like letterboxes? Yes or no? Dont act dumb or are you trying to deflect? what he said is the content
No , I don’t think it was right or correct in that context , why did he have to say it? Wasn’t it really necessary ? so you dont think they have a right to wear one then or that businesses should have the right to see the faces of the people they are dealing with. Interesting.
I don’t think he should have used the term ‘looking like letter boxes’ obviously you do, interesting It doesnt bother me no, but im not out looking to be offended every time someone says or writes something.
Obviously, your a die hard Tory , your to busy getting offended by immigrants, bbc licence and people pulling down statues of sl*ve traders Is that your idea of a tory no wonder you are so confused.
A ‘die hard ‘ Tory, you and your fellow Tories on here have already proved my point, you think it’s acceptable for Boris to say women in burkas look like letter boxes and the other thinks a Muslim woman complaining about islamophabia is playing the race card, yet you both get offended by immigrant in the channel ? sorry to disappoint you but i made no such comment about anyone playing the race card and as i said i dont go out looking to be offended on other peoples behalf and no im not offended by the remark as the whole article was in defence of such women. You might want to look at the way you think with your generalisation of people who vote a certain though.People from all walks of life and contrasting views vote for the core beliefs of a party nothing else but you cannot seem to see that.You may also want to look at what you find offensive too, you are getting all hot under the collar about letter boxes but as i recall in the past have no problem calling people gammons which i personally dont find offensive but im sure some might.I think your faux outrage is more about who said it than what was actually said. "I never said you used the ‘race card ‘ line, it came from a fellow Tory , did you get offended when he called homosexual men ‘tank top wearing bum boys’ or was that funny as well?? | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?
Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick Of course i have thats how i know he was defending the right to wear a burka now how do you make that out to be Islamophobic?
So he is stupid then, only somebody who is really thick would compare women wearing a burka with looking like a letter box. Anyway, he will be home home soon , the most inept , pathetic PM we have ever had So did you agree with the article he wrote or did you disagree?
I refer you to the post by Easy, have a read What cant you answer for yourself now? its a simple question did you agree or not agree with what was written.
Context is interesting.
"Defending" their right to wear burquas whilst supporting the right for organisations to demand there removal and all done in the most derisive and critical way possible.
It was not humour, it was political manipulation to excite a certain section of the electorate who are Islamophobic.
He may well not be islamophobic or racist but has no issue encouraging and making use of those who are to serve his own ends. No, not all politicians do this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45083275.amp
'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.'
'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber".
"If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said.
"If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran.
"I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes."
He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.'
This I read his post before you dont need to copy and paste it so do you agree with the article or not its an easy question.
Agree with the article? What do you mean? Agree with it being published? The content ? What Boris said ? do you think Boris should have said Muslim women in burkas look like letterboxes? Yes or no? Dont act dumb or are you trying to deflect? what he said is the content
No , I don’t think it was right or correct in that context , why did he have to say it? Wasn’t it really necessary ? so you dont think they have a right to wear one then or that businesses should have the right to see the faces of the people they are dealing with. Interesting.
I don’t think he should have used the term ‘looking like letter boxes’ obviously you do, interesting It doesnt bother me no, but im not out looking to be offended every time someone says or writes something.
Obviously, your a die hard Tory , your to busy getting offended by immigrants, bbc licence and people pulling down statues of sl*ve traders Is that your idea of a tory no wonder you are so confused.
A ‘die hard ‘ Tory, you and your fellow Tories on here have already proved my point, you think it’s acceptable for Boris to say women in burkas look like letter boxes and the other thinks a Muslim woman complaining about islamophabia is playing the race card, yet you both get offended by immigrant in the channel ? sorry to disappoint you but i made no such comment about anyone playing the race card and as i said i dont go out looking to be offended on other peoples behalf and no im not offended by the remark as the whole article was in defence of such women. You might want to look at the way you think with your generalisation of people who vote a certain though.People from all walks of life and contrasting views vote for the core beliefs of a party nothing else but you cannot seem to see that.You may also want to look at what you find offensive too, you are getting all hot under the collar about letter boxes but as i recall in the past have no problem calling people gammons which i personally dont find offensive but im sure some might.I think your faux outrage is more about who said it than what was actually said.
I never said you used the ‘race card ‘ line, it came from a fellow Tory , did you get offended when he called homosexual men ‘tank top wearing bum boys’ or was that funny as well??"No funny enough i didnt should i have? so back to the point why is calling someone a gammon not offensive in your book but a letter box is? | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?
Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick Of course i have thats how i know he was defending the right to wear a burka now how do you make that out to be Islamophobic?
So he is stupid then, only somebody who is really thick would compare women wearing a burka with looking like a letter box. Anyway, he will be home home soon , the most inept , pathetic PM we have ever had So did you agree with the article he wrote or did you disagree?
I refer you to the post by Easy, have a read What cant you answer for yourself now? its a simple question did you agree or not agree with what was written.
Context is interesting.
"Defending" their right to wear burquas whilst supporting the right for organisations to demand there removal and all done in the most derisive and critical way possible.
It was not humour, it was political manipulation to excite a certain section of the electorate who are Islamophobic.
He may well not be islamophobic or racist but has no issue encouraging and making use of those who are to serve his own ends. No, not all politicians do this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45083275.amp
'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.'
'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber".
"If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said.
"If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran.
"I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes."
He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.'
This I read his post before you dont need to copy and paste it so do you agree with the article or not its an easy question.
Agree with the article? What do you mean? Agree with it being published? The content ? What Boris said ? do you think Boris should have said Muslim women in burkas look like letterboxes? Yes or no? Dont act dumb or are you trying to deflect? what he said is the content
No , I don’t think it was right or correct in that context , why did he have to say it? Wasn’t it really necessary ? so you dont think they have a right to wear one then or that businesses should have the right to see the faces of the people they are dealing with. Interesting.
I don’t think he should have used the term ‘looking like letter boxes’ obviously you do, interesting It doesnt bother me no, but im not out looking to be offended every time someone says or writes something.
Obviously, your a die hard Tory , your to busy getting offended by immigrants, bbc licence and people pulling down statues of sl*ve traders Is that your idea of a tory no wonder you are so confused.
A ‘die hard ‘ Tory, you and your fellow Tories on here have already proved my point, you think it’s acceptable for Boris to say women in burkas look like letter boxes and the other thinks a Muslim woman complaining about islamophabia is playing the race card, yet you both get offended by immigrant in the channel ? sorry to disappoint you but i made no such comment about anyone playing the race card and as i said i dont go out looking to be offended on other peoples behalf and no im not offended by the remark as the whole article was in defence of such women. You might want to look at the way you think with your generalisation of people who vote a certain though.People from all walks of life and contrasting views vote for the core beliefs of a party nothing else but you cannot seem to see that.You may also want to look at what you find offensive too, you are getting all hot under the collar about letter boxes but as i recall in the past have no problem calling people gammons which i personally dont find offensive but im sure some might.I think your faux outrage is more about who said it than what was actually said.
I never said you used the ‘race card ‘ line, it came from a fellow Tory , did you get offended when he called homosexual men ‘tank top wearing bum boys’ or was that funny as well??No funny enough i didnt should i have? so back to the point why is calling someone a gammon not offensive in your book but a letter box is? "I have never used the term gammon, if people find it offensive then obviously it shouldn’t be used, gammons can be any race, religion, sex etc | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?
Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick Of course i have thats how i know he was defending the right to wear a burka now how do you make that out to be Islamophobic?
So he is stupid then, only somebody who is really thick would compare women wearing a burka with looking like a letter box. Anyway, he will be home home soon , the most inept , pathetic PM we have ever had So did you agree with the article he wrote or did you disagree?
I refer you to the post by Easy, have a read What cant you answer for yourself now? its a simple question did you agree or not agree with what was written.
Context is interesting.
"Defending" their right to wear burquas whilst supporting the right for organisations to demand there removal and all done in the most derisive and critical way possible.
It was not humour, it was political manipulation to excite a certain section of the electorate who are Islamophobic.
He may well not be islamophobic or racist but has no issue encouraging and making use of those who are to serve his own ends. No, not all politicians do this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45083275.amp
'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.'
'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber".
"If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said.
"If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran.
"I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes."
He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.'
This I read his post before you dont need to copy and paste it so do you agree with the article or not its an easy question.
Agree with the article? What do you mean? Agree with it being published? The content ? What Boris said ? do you think Boris should have said Muslim women in burkas look like letterboxes? Yes or no? Dont act dumb or are you trying to deflect? what he said is the content
No , I don’t think it was right or correct in that context , why did he have to say it? Wasn’t it really necessary ? so you dont think they have a right to wear one then or that businesses should have the right to see the faces of the people they are dealing with. Interesting.
I don’t think he should have used the term ‘looking like letter boxes’ obviously you do, interesting It doesnt bother me no, but im not out looking to be offended every time someone says or writes something.
Obviously, your a die hard Tory , your to busy getting offended by immigrants, bbc licence and people pulling down statues of sl*ve traders Is that your idea of a tory no wonder you are so confused.
A ‘die hard ‘ Tory, you and your fellow Tories on here have already proved my point, you think it’s acceptable for Boris to say women in burkas look like letter boxes and the other thinks a Muslim woman complaining about islamophabia is playing the race card, yet you both get offended by immigrant in the channel ? sorry to disappoint you but i made no such comment about anyone playing the race card and as i said i dont go out looking to be offended on other peoples behalf and no im not offended by the remark as the whole article was in defence of such women. You might want to look at the way you think with your generalisation of people who vote a certain though.People from all walks of life and contrasting views vote for the core beliefs of a party nothing else but you cannot seem to see that.You may also want to look at what you find offensive too, you are getting all hot under the collar about letter boxes but as i recall in the past have no problem calling people gammons which i personally dont find offensive but im sure some might.I think your faux outrage is more about who said it than what was actually said.
I never said you used the ‘race card ‘ line, it came from a fellow Tory , did you get offended when he called homosexual men ‘tank top wearing bum boys’ or was that funny as well??No funny enough i didnt should i have? so back to the point why is calling someone a gammon not offensive in your book but a letter box is?
I have never used the term gammon, if people find it offensive then obviously it shouldn’t be used, gammons can be any race, religion, sex etc "I think you have but im not trawling back over months of posts to prove you wrong,i cant be bothered but im sure a few on here will be comparing you to boris now. | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?
Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick Of course i have thats how i know he was defending the right to wear a burka now how do you make that out to be Islamophobic?
So he is stupid then, only somebody who is really thick would compare women wearing a burka with looking like a letter box. Anyway, he will be home home soon , the most inept , pathetic PM we have ever had So did you agree with the article he wrote or did you disagree?
I refer you to the post by Easy, have a read What cant you answer for yourself now? its a simple question did you agree or not agree with what was written.
Context is interesting.
"Defending" their right to wear burquas whilst supporting the right for organisations to demand there removal and all done in the most derisive and critical way possible.
It was not humour, it was political manipulation to excite a certain section of the electorate who are Islamophobic.
He may well not be islamophobic or racist but has no issue encouraging and making use of those who are to serve his own ends. No, not all politicians do this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45083275.amp
'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.'
'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber".
"If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said.
"If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran.
"I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes."
He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.'
This I read his post before you dont need to copy and paste it so do you agree with the article or not its an easy question.
Agree with the article? What do you mean? Agree with it being published? The content ? What Boris said ? do you think Boris should have said Muslim women in burkas look like letterboxes? Yes or no? Dont act dumb or are you trying to deflect? what he said is the content
No , I don’t think it was right or correct in that context , why did he have to say it? Wasn’t it really necessary ? so you dont think they have a right to wear one then or that businesses should have the right to see the faces of the people they are dealing with. Interesting.
I don’t think he should have used the term ‘looking like letter boxes’ obviously you do, interesting It doesnt bother me no, but im not out looking to be offended every time someone says or writes something.
Obviously, your a die hard Tory , your to busy getting offended by immigrants, bbc licence and people pulling down statues of sl*ve traders Is that your idea of a tory no wonder you are so confused.
A ‘die hard ‘ Tory, you and your fellow Tories on here have already proved my point, you think it’s acceptable for Boris to say women in burkas look like letter boxes and the other thinks a Muslim woman complaining about islamophabia is playing the race card, yet you both get offended by immigrant in the channel ? sorry to disappoint you but i made no such comment about anyone playing the race card and as i said i dont go out looking to be offended on other peoples behalf and no im not offended by the remark as the whole article was in defence of such women. You might want to look at the way you think with your generalisation of people who vote a certain though.People from all walks of life and contrasting views vote for the core beliefs of a party nothing else but you cannot seem to see that.You may also want to look at what you find offensive too, you are getting all hot under the collar about letter boxes but as i recall in the past have no problem calling people gammons which i personally dont find offensive but im sure some might.I think your faux outrage is more about who said it than what was actually said.
I never said you used the ‘race card ‘ line, it came from a fellow Tory , did you get offended when he called homosexual men ‘tank top wearing bum boys’ or was that funny as well??No funny enough i didnt should i have? so back to the point why is calling someone a gammon not offensive in your book but a letter box is?
I have never used the term gammon, if people find it offensive then obviously it shouldn’t be used, gammons can be any race, religion, sex etc I think you have but im not trawling back over months of posts to prove you wrong,i cant be bothered but im sure a few on here will be comparing you to boris now. "Ah well , nice try , I know for a fact that I haven’t ever stated that women wearing burkas as ‘looking like letterboxes’ or homosexual men being ‘’tank top wearing bum boys ‘, in fact I can guarantee that nobody has says those things without it being removed , I wonder why?? | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?
Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick Of course i have thats how i know he was defending the right to wear a burka now how do you make that out to be Islamophobic?
So he is stupid then, only somebody who is really thick would compare women wearing a burka with looking like a letter box. Anyway, he will be home home soon , the most inept , pathetic PM we have ever had So did you agree with the article he wrote or did you disagree?
I refer you to the post by Easy, have a read What cant you answer for yourself now? its a simple question did you agree or not agree with what was written.
Context is interesting.
"Defending" their right to wear burquas whilst supporting the right for organisations to demand there removal and all done in the most derisive and critical way possible.
It was not humour, it was political manipulation to excite a certain section of the electorate who are Islamophobic.
He may well not be islamophobic or racist but has no issue encouraging and making use of those who are to serve his own ends. No, not all politicians do this.
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'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.'
'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber".
"If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said.
"If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran.
"I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes."
He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.'
This I read his post before you dont need to copy and paste it so do you agree with the article or not its an easy question.
Agree with the article? What do you mean? Agree with it being published? The content ? What Boris said ? do you think Boris should have said Muslim women in burkas look like letterboxes? Yes or no? Dont act dumb or are you trying to deflect? what he said is the content
No , I don’t think it was right or correct in that context , why did he have to say it? Wasn’t it really necessary ? so you dont think they have a right to wear one then or that businesses should have the right to see the faces of the people they are dealing with. Interesting.
I don’t think he should have used the term ‘looking like letter boxes’ obviously you do, interesting It doesnt bother me no, but im not out looking to be offended every time someone says or writes something.
Obviously, your a die hard Tory , your to busy getting offended by immigrants, bbc licence and people pulling down statues of sl*ve traders Is that your idea of a tory no wonder you are so confused.
A ‘die hard ‘ Tory, you and your fellow Tories on here have already proved my point, you think it’s acceptable for Boris to say women in burkas look like letter boxes and the other thinks a Muslim woman complaining about islamophabia is playing the race card, yet you both get offended by immigrant in the channel ? sorry to disappoint you but i made no such comment about anyone playing the race card and as i said i dont go out looking to be offended on other peoples behalf and no im not offended by the remark as the whole article was in defence of such women. You might want to look at the way you think with your generalisation of people who vote a certain though.People from all walks of life and contrasting views vote for the core beliefs of a party nothing else but you cannot seem to see that.You may also want to look at what you find offensive too, you are getting all hot under the collar about letter boxes but as i recall in the past have no problem calling people gammons which i personally dont find offensive but im sure some might.I think your faux outrage is more about who said it than what was actually said.
I never said you used the ‘race card ‘ line, it came from a fellow Tory , did you get offended when he called homosexual men ‘tank top wearing bum boys’ or was that funny as well??No funny enough i didnt should i have? so back to the point why is calling someone a gammon not offensive in your book but a letter box is?
I have never used the term gammon, if people find it offensive then obviously it shouldn’t be used, gammons can be any race, religion, sex etc "Right so you dont even know what it means that explains why you dont think using it is offensive to some,heres the definition for you. [ C ] UK informal offensive plural gammon an offensive word for someone whose opinions are very right-wing (= supporting the political right), used mainly about White men who are middle-aged (= from about 45 to 60 years old): | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?
Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick Of course i have thats how i know he was defending the right to wear a burka now how do you make that out to be Islamophobic?
So he is stupid then, only somebody who is really thick would compare women wearing a burka with looking like a letter box. Anyway, he will be home home soon , the most inept , pathetic PM we have ever had So did you agree with the article he wrote or did you disagree?
I refer you to the post by Easy, have a read What cant you answer for yourself now? its a simple question did you agree or not agree with what was written.
Context is interesting.
"Defending" their right to wear burquas whilst supporting the right for organisations to demand there removal and all done in the most derisive and critical way possible.
It was not humour, it was political manipulation to excite a certain section of the electorate who are Islamophobic.
He may well not be islamophobic or racist but has no issue encouraging and making use of those who are to serve his own ends. No, not all politicians do this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45083275.amp
'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.'
'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber".
"If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said.
"If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran.
"I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes."
He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.'
This I read his post before you dont need to copy and paste it so do you agree with the article or not its an easy question.
Agree with the article? What do you mean? Agree with it being published? The content ? What Boris said ? do you think Boris should have said Muslim women in burkas look like letterboxes? Yes or no? Dont act dumb or are you trying to deflect? what he said is the content
No , I don’t think it was right or correct in that context , why did he have to say it? Wasn’t it really necessary ? so you dont think they have a right to wear one then or that businesses should have the right to see the faces of the people they are dealing with. Interesting.
I don’t think he should have used the term ‘looking like letter boxes’ obviously you do, interesting It doesnt bother me no, but im not out looking to be offended every time someone says or writes something.
Obviously, your a die hard Tory , your to busy getting offended by immigrants, bbc licence and people pulling down statues of sl*ve traders Is that your idea of a tory no wonder you are so confused.
A ‘die hard ‘ Tory, you and your fellow Tories on here have already proved my point, you think it’s acceptable for Boris to say women in burkas look like letter boxes and the other thinks a Muslim woman complaining about islamophabia is playing the race card, yet you both get offended by immigrant in the channel ? sorry to disappoint you but i made no such comment about anyone playing the race card and as i said i dont go out looking to be offended on other peoples behalf and no im not offended by the remark as the whole article was in defence of such women. You might want to look at the way you think with your generalisation of people who vote a certain though.People from all walks of life and contrasting views vote for the core beliefs of a party nothing else but you cannot seem to see that.You may also want to look at what you find offensive too, you are getting all hot under the collar about letter boxes but as i recall in the past have no problem calling people gammons which i personally dont find offensive but im sure some might.I think your faux outrage is more about who said it than what was actually said.
I never said you used the ‘race card ‘ line, it came from a fellow Tory , did you get offended when he called homosexual men ‘tank top wearing bum boys’ or was that funny as well??No funny enough i didnt should i have? so back to the point why is calling someone a gammon not offensive in your book but a letter box is?
I have never used the term gammon, if people find it offensive then obviously it shouldn’t be used, gammons can be any race, religion, sex etc Right so you dont even know what it means that explains why you dont think using it is offensive to some,heres the definition for you.
[ C ] UK informal offensive plural gammon
an offensive word for someone whose opinions are very right-wing (= supporting the political right), used mainly about White men who are middle-aged (= from about 45 to 60 years old): "Have a look up the word ‘mainly ‘ , not all gammons are white and middle age, in fact , you can be any race, age, sex etc and still be a gammon . | |||
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"the topic of deep rooted and widespread institutional islamophobia within the conservative and unionist party has re-surfaced in the news. what happened to the promise made by the party grandees on live television during the last leadership contest, of an in depth independent inquiry about this deep-seated racism that has persistantly plagued the torys? Lol yes a very racist party, only select whites to higher positions in the cabinet etc; they’ve never had a chancellor, health secretary or Home Secretary that’s not been white. Oh hang on a minute! Ah , the old ‘I can’t be racist I have non white friends ‘ line , good effort How is that even relevant? typical left wing cancel culture.Some of the top government jobs in the country going to ethnic minority's and you class it as i have non white friends unbelievable.
How does having non white people in government prevent the tories from being Islamophobic ? Typical right wing ‘diversion ‘ tactic It doesnt it was in response to the op,s original statement that there is deep routed racism in the tory party would you call having the most diverse cabinet in British history deep seated racism? i would have thought having no diversity would be racism but maybe you can spin it another way to convince me im wrong.
It is irrelevant who is in ‘his ‘ cabinet, I do recall him calling women who wear burkas as looking like letter boxes though . yeah me too but i also remember the whole context of the piece not just one sentence, he was actually defending their right to wear a burka but in this day and age his attempt at humour was misplaced.
It may be irrelevant to you because it debunks the rhetoric that there is deep seated racism in the party but anyone in their right mind can see who has the top jobs or are they just there a a token.
‘Attempt at humour ‘ , o dear, good effort Have you read the article ?
Yes, have you? Boris is either stupid or islamophobic, take your pick Of course i have thats how i know he was defending the right to wear a burka now how do you make that out to be Islamophobic?
So he is stupid then, only somebody who is really thick would compare women wearing a burka with looking like a letter box. Anyway, he will be home home soon , the most inept , pathetic PM we have ever had So did you agree with the article he wrote or did you disagree?
I refer you to the post by Easy, have a read What cant you answer for yourself now? its a simple question did you agree or not agree with what was written.
Context is interesting.
"Defending" their right to wear burquas whilst supporting the right for organisations to demand there removal and all done in the most derisive and critical way possible.
It was not humour, it was political manipulation to excite a certain section of the electorate who are Islamophobic.
He may well not be islamophobic or racist but has no issue encouraging and making use of those who are to serve his own ends. No, not all politicians do this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45083275.amp
'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.'
'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber".
"If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said.
"If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran.
"I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes."
He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.'
This I read his post before you dont need to copy and paste it so do you agree with the article or not its an easy question.
Agree with the article? What do you mean? Agree with it being published? The content ? What Boris said ? do you think Boris should have said Muslim women in burkas look like letterboxes? Yes or no? Dont act dumb or are you trying to deflect? what he said is the content
No , I don’t think it was right or correct in that context , why did he have to say it? Wasn’t it really necessary ? so you dont think they have a right to wear one then or that businesses should have the right to see the faces of the people they are dealing with. Interesting.
I don’t think he should have used the term ‘looking like letter boxes’ obviously you do, interesting It doesnt bother me no, but im not out looking to be offended every time someone says or writes something.
Obviously, your a die hard Tory , your to busy getting offended by immigrants, bbc licence and people pulling down statues of sl*ve traders Is that your idea of a tory no wonder you are so confused.
A ‘die hard ‘ Tory, you and your fellow Tories on here have already proved my point, you think it’s acceptable for Boris to say women in burkas look like letter boxes and the other thinks a Muslim woman complaining about islamophabia is playing the race card, yet you both get offended by immigrant in the channel ? sorry to disappoint you but i made no such comment about anyone playing the race card and as i said i dont go out looking to be offended on other peoples behalf and no im not offended by the remark as the whole article was in defence of such women. You might want to look at the way you think with your generalisation of people who vote a certain though.People from all walks of life and contrasting views vote for the core beliefs of a party nothing else but you cannot seem to see that.You may also want to look at what you find offensive too, you are getting all hot under the collar about letter boxes but as i recall in the past have no problem calling people gammons which i personally dont find offensive but im sure some might.I think your faux outrage is more about who said it than what was actually said.
I never said you used the ‘race card ‘ line, it came from a fellow Tory , did you get offended when he called homosexual men ‘tank top wearing bum boys’ or was that funny as well??No funny enough i didnt should i have? so back to the point why is calling someone a gammon not offensive in your book but a letter box is?
I have never used the term gammon, if people find it offensive then obviously it shouldn’t be used, gammons can be any race, religion, sex etc Right so you dont even know what it means that explains why you dont think using it is offensive to some,heres the definition for you.
[ C ] UK informal offensive plural gammon
an offensive word for someone whose opinions are very right-wing (= supporting the political right), used mainly about White men who are middle-aged (= from about 45 to 60 years old):
Have a look up the word ‘mainly ‘ , not all gammons are white and middle age, in fact , you can be any race, age, sex etc and still be a gammon ."oh dear. | |||
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"What utter rubbish! Labour are a bunch of Antisemites - this is a fact and the party has not done anything to eradicate it. The Conservative party certainly is not Islamophobic - just look at the current cabinet - Sajid Javid is Muslim and the secretary of state for health and social care and was formerly the chancellor of the exchequer. Additi ally, Boris Johnson is part Muslim himself (his grandfather was Turkish Muslim) " This is hilarious, labour have had several Jewish MPs including a leader, Ed Miliband, | |||
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"So, Islamophobia just doesn't exist in the Conservative party and doesn't need investigation even though it keeps being raised from within the Conservative? All of the below was written primarily to defend Muslim women, not insult them and get support from those who have strong Islamophobic tendancies? Really? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45083275.amp 'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.' 'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber". "If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said. "If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran. "I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes." He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.'" Yes and so they should people have a right to see who they are dealing with, if for instance you run a jewellers would you open your security door to 3 men in micky mouse face masks? if so i suggest you are an idiot. | |||
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"So, Islamophobia just doesn't exist in the Conservative party and doesn't need investigation even though it keeps being raised from within the Conservative? All of the below was written primarily to defend Muslim women, not insult them and get support from those who have strong Islamophobic tendancies? Really? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45083275.amp 'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.' 'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber". "If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said. "If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran. "I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes." He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.'Yes and so they should people have a right to see who they are dealing with, if for instance you run a jewellers would you open your security door to 3 men in micky mouse face masks? if so i suggest you are an idiot." Is there a religious reason for wearing a Mickey Mouse mask? | |||
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"What utter rubbish! Labour are a bunch of Antisemites - this is a fact and the party has not done anything to eradicate it. The Conservative party certainly is not Islamophobic - just look at the current cabinet - Sajid Javid is Muslim and the secretary of state for health and social care and was formerly the chancellor of the exchequer. Additi ally, Boris Johnson is part Muslim himself (his grandfather was Turkish Muslim) This is hilarious, labour have had several Jewish MPs including a leader, Ed Miliband, "Your head must be firmly in the sand! Do you even watch/read the news? | |||
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"So, Islamophobia just doesn't exist in the Conservative party and doesn't need investigation even though it keeps being raised from within the Conservative? All of the below was written primarily to defend Muslim women, not insult them and get support from those who have strong Islamophobic tendancies? Really? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45083275.amp 'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.' 'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber". "If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said. "If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran. "I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes." He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.'Yes and so they should people have a right to see who they are dealing with, if for instance you run a jewellers would you open your security door to 3 men in micky mouse face masks? if so i suggest you are an idiot." Ageed! for once I agree with the French - ban all religious head and face coverings!!! It’s illegal to wear a burka and a hijab in France. | |||
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"What utter rubbish! Labour are a bunch of Antisemites - this is a fact and the party has not done anything to eradicate it. The Conservative party certainly is not Islamophobic - just look at the current cabinet - Sajid Javid is Muslim and the secretary of state for health and social care and was formerly the chancellor of the exchequer. Additi ally, Boris Johnson is part Muslim himself (his grandfather was Turkish Muslim) This is hilarious, labour have had several Jewish MPs including a leader, Ed Miliband,
Your head must be firmly in the sand! Do you even watch/read the news? "PMSL, you said that the tories can’t be islamophobic because they have Muslim ministers and then stated labour are anti semetic even though they have Jewish MPs and their ex leader was Jewish, hilarious | |||
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"What utter rubbish! Labour are a bunch of Antisemites - this is a fact and the party has not done anything to eradicate it. The Conservative party certainly is not Islamophobic - just look at the current cabinet - Sajid Javid is Muslim and the secretary of state for health and social care and was formerly the chancellor of the exchequer. Additi ally, Boris Johnson is part Muslim himself (his grandfather was Turkish Muslim) " Well said. | |||
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"What utter rubbish! Labour are a bunch of Antisemites - this is a fact and the party has not done anything to eradicate it. The Conservative party certainly is not Islamophobic - just look at the current cabinet - Sajid Javid is Muslim and the secretary of state for health and social care and was formerly the chancellor of the exchequer. Additi ally, Boris Johnson is part Muslim himself (his grandfather was Turkish Muslim) Well said. "How can you be ‘part muslim’ ? My grand parents were both Catholics, does that make me ‘part catholic’ | |||
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"What utter rubbish! Labour are a bunch of Antisemites - this is a fact and the party has not done anything to eradicate it. The Conservative party certainly is not Islamophobic - just look at the current cabinet - Sajid Javid is Muslim and the secretary of state for health and social care and was formerly the chancellor of the exchequer. Additi ally, Boris Johnson is part Muslim himself (his grandfather was Turkish Muslim) Well said.
How can you be ‘part muslim’ ? My grand parents were both Catholics, does that make me ‘part catholic’ "You really are a thick little lefty, aren’t you? And I note you’ve blocked me too… scared? | |||
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"What utter rubbish! Labour are a bunch of Antisemites - this is a fact and the party has not done anything to eradicate it. The Conservative party certainly is not Islamophobic - just look at the current cabinet - Sajid Javid is Muslim and the secretary of state for health and social care and was formerly the chancellor of the exchequer. Additi ally, Boris Johnson is part Muslim himself (his grandfather was Turkish Muslim) Well said.
How can you be ‘part muslim’ ? My grand parents were both Catholics, does that make me ‘part catholic’
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"What utter rubbish! Labour are a bunch of Antisemites - this is a fact and the party has not done anything to eradicate it. The Conservative party certainly is not Islamophobic - just look at the current cabinet - Sajid Javid is Muslim and the secretary of state for health and social care and was formerly the chancellor of the exchequer. Additi ally, Boris Johnson is part Muslim himself (his grandfather was Turkish Muslim) Well said.
How can you be ‘part muslim’ ? My grand parents were both Catholics, does that make me ‘part catholic’
You really are a thick little lefty, aren’t you? And I note you’ve blocked me too… scared?
O dear, Personal insults? So, how can you be ‘part Muslim’ ?? "Many people who are of mixed heritage eg Christian Mother, Muslim (or any other religion) often say they are both….. a lot of the time they go to both places of worship and celebrate both religious _estivals. Quite a few of my friends do. Obviously you do not know anyone of mixed religious heritage. | |||
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"What utter rubbish! Labour are a bunch of Antisemites - this is a fact and the party has not done anything to eradicate it. The Conservative party certainly is not Islamophobic - just look at the current cabinet - Sajid Javid is Muslim and the secretary of state for health and social care and was formerly the chancellor of the exchequer. Additi ally, Boris Johnson is part Muslim himself (his grandfather was Turkish Muslim) Well said.
How can you be ‘part muslim’ ? My grand parents were both Catholics, does that make me ‘part catholic’
You really are a thick little lefty, aren’t you? And I note you’ve blocked me too… scared?
O dear, Personal insults? So, how can you be ‘part Muslim’ ??
Many people who are of mixed heritage eg Christian Mother, Muslim (or any other religion) often say they are both….. a lot of the time they go to both places of worship and celebrate both religious _estivals. Quite a few of my friends do. Obviously you do not know anyone of mixed religious heritage. "So you are saying that because Boris has a distant relative who was a Muslim that makes him ‘part Muslim’? | |||
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"What utter rubbish! Labour are a bunch of Antisemites - this is a fact and the party has not done anything to eradicate it. The Conservative party certainly is not Islamophobic - just look at the current cabinet - Sajid Javid is Muslim and the secretary of state for health and social care and was formerly the chancellor of the exchequer. Additi ally, Boris Johnson is part Muslim himself (his grandfather was Turkish Muslim) " | |||
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"What utter rubbish! Labour are a bunch of Antisemites - this is a fact and the party has not done anything to eradicate it. The Conservative party certainly is not Islamophobic - just look at the current cabinet - Sajid Javid is Muslim and the secretary of state for health and social care and was formerly the chancellor of the exchequer. Additi ally, Boris Johnson is part Muslim himself (his grandfather was Turkish Muslim) Well said.
How can you be ‘part muslim’ ? My grand parents were both Catholics, does that make me ‘part catholic’
You really are a thick little lefty, aren’t you? And I note you’ve blocked me too… scared?
O dear, Personal insults? So, how can you be ‘part Muslim’ ??
Many people who are of mixed heritage eg Christian Mother, Muslim (or any other religion) often say they are both….. a lot of the time they go to both places of worship and celebrate both religious _estivals. Quite a few of my friends do. Obviously you do not know anyone of mixed religious heritage.
So you are saying that because Boris has a distant relative who was a Muslim that makes him ‘part Muslim’? "Yes and he is proud of it too… he has read, studied and even quoted fro the Quran…. But you don’t watch things like that on TV | |||
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"What utter rubbish! Labour are a bunch of Antisemites - this is a fact and the party has not done anything to eradicate it. The Conservative party certainly is not Islamophobic - just look at the current cabinet - Sajid Javid is Muslim and the secretary of state for health and social care and was formerly the chancellor of the exchequer. Additi ally, Boris Johnson is part Muslim himself (his grandfather was Turkish Muslim) Well said.
How can you be ‘part muslim’ ? My grand parents were both Catholics, does that make me ‘part catholic’
You really are a thick little lefty, aren’t you? And I note you’ve blocked me too… scared?
O dear, Personal insults? So, how can you be ‘part Muslim’ ??
Many people who are of mixed heritage eg Christian Mother, Muslim (or any other religion) often say they are both….. a lot of the time they go to both places of worship and celebrate both religious _estivals. Quite a few of my friends do. Obviously you do not know anyone of mixed religious heritage.
So you are saying that because Boris has a distant relative who was a Muslim that makes him ‘part Muslim’?
Yes and he is proud of it too… he has read, studied and even quoted fro the Quran…. But you don’t watch things like that on TV "PMSL, i once read a quote from the Quran, I am now going to repeat it here “Guide Us To The Straight Path” – Surah Fatiha Ayat 6. I am now ‘part Muslim’ | |||
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"What utter rubbish! Labour are a bunch of Antisemites - this is a fact and the party has not done anything to eradicate it. The Conservative party certainly is not Islamophobic - just look at the current cabinet - Sajid Javid is Muslim and the secretary of state for health and social care and was formerly the chancellor of the exchequer. Additi ally, Boris Johnson is part Muslim himself (his grandfather was Turkish Muslim) "It wasn’t his grandfather sandy | |||
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"If Islam is considered to be a race, as it has been, then it's perfectly plausible that Johnson could be considered as mixed-race. The racist ignorance of the left seems to have no limits. Unless, of course, anyone wants to state categorically that Islam isn't considered a race? If so, "Islamophobia" is nothing more than a dislike of religion, but not racism. You can't have it both ways. "Do you think Islam is a race? Personally I think it is a religion, like Catholicism | |||
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"If Islam is considered to be a race, as it has been, then it's perfectly plausible that Johnson could be considered as mixed-race. The racist ignorance of the left seems to have no limits. Unless, of course, anyone wants to state categorically that Islam isn't considered a race? If so, "Islamophobia" is nothing more than a dislike of religion, but not racism. You can't have it both ways. " this | |||
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"What utter rubbish! Labour are a bunch of Antisemites - this is a fact and the party has not done anything to eradicate it. The Conservative party certainly is not Islamophobic - just look at the current cabinet - Sajid Javid is Muslim and the secretary of state for health and social care and was formerly the chancellor of the exchequer. Additi ally, Boris Johnson is part Muslim himself (his grandfather was Turkish Muslim) Well said.
How can you be ‘part muslim’ ? My grand parents were both Catholics, does that make me ‘part catholic’
You really are a thick little lefty, aren’t you? And I note you’ve blocked me too… scared?
O dear, Personal insults? So, how can you be ‘part Muslim’ ??
Many people who are of mixed heritage eg Christian Mother, Muslim (or any other religion) often say they are both….. a lot of the time they go to both places of worship and celebrate both religious _estivals. Quite a few of my friends do. Obviously you do not know anyone of mixed religious heritage. "yep mates a muslim by birth his mrs was brought up catholic neither of em go anywhere near a mosque or church and as far as there concerned when there. Kids are older they can choose to follow watever religion they want or none at all | |||
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"So, Islamophobia just doesn't exist in the Conservative party and doesn't need investigation even though it keeps being raised from within the Conservative? All of the below was written primarily to defend Muslim women, not insult them and get support from those who have strong Islamophobic tendancies? Really? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45083275.amp 'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.' 'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber". "If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said. "If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran. "I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes." He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.'Yes and so they should people have a right to see who they are dealing with, if for instance you run a jewellers would you open your security door to 3 men in micky mouse face masks? if so i suggest you are an idiot." Only answering in part, I see. Should Islamophobia be investigated if Muslims within the party continue to raise a concern? The fact that there are Muslims in senior positions in the party does not make them somehow immune. The former Chairman is one of those raising concerns. Was the article intended to defend their right to wear burqa's? It reads to me like a criticism and you are using it as such. Is describing people as "looking like a bank robber" or "looking like letter boxes" 'humour', or an insult? If I understand you correctly, you do not believe that it was written in such a way as to align with and encourage anyone's prejudices? Have jewellers and banks opened their doors to people wearing masks over the last two years? I do not like the wearing of burqua's. I believe it's isolating. However, that is about encouraging freedom. That is to be worked on in the community. Forcing people to dress in a certain way to access basic services? Is that not state overreach? There has been no problem with this for years, why is there now, unless it provides some votes? | |||
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"So, Islamophobia just doesn't exist in the Conservative party and doesn't need investigation even though it keeps being raised from within the Conservative? All of the below was written primarily to defend Muslim women, not insult them and get support from those who have strong Islamophobic tendancies? Really? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45083275.amp 'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.' 'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber". "If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said. "If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran. "I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes." He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.'Yes and so they should people have a right to see who they are dealing with, if for instance you run a jewellers would you open your security door to 3 men in micky mouse face masks? if so i suggest you are an idiot. Only answering in part, I see. Should Islamophobia be investigated if Muslims within the party continue to raise a concern? The fact that there are Muslims in senior positions in the party does not make them somehow immune. The former Chairman is one of those raising concerns. Was the article intended to defend their right to wear burqa's? It reads to me like a criticism and you are using it as such. Is describing people as "looking like a bank robber" or "looking like letter boxes" 'humour', or an insult? If I understand you correctly, you do not believe that it was written in such a way as to align with and encourage anyone's prejudices? Have jewellers and banks opened their doors to people wearing masks over the last two years? I do not like the wearing of burqua's. I believe it's isolating. However, that is about encouraging freedom. That is to be worked on in the community. Forcing people to dress in a certain way to access basic services? Is that not state overreach? There has been no problem with this for years, why is there now, unless it provides some votes?" To me it was an article defending the right to wear one,if as you say its to provide votes firstly it was written with the title Demark has got it wrong? in response to Denmark banning the burka so how you see that as a criticism is beyond me
If they were after votes as you say surely the would have gone down the same route as Austria,France,Belguim,Denmark, Bulgaria and the Netherlands and parts of Italy and Spain.
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"So, Islamophobia just doesn't exist in the Conservative party and doesn't need investigation even though it keeps being raised from within the Conservative? All of the below was written primarily to defend Muslim women, not insult them and get support from those who have strong Islamophobic tendancies? Really? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45083275.amp 'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.' 'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber". "If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said. "If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran. "I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes." He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.'Yes and so they should people have a right to see who they are dealing with, if for instance you run a jewellers would you open your security door to 3 men in micky mouse face masks? if so i suggest you are an idiot. Only answering in part, I see. Should Islamophobia be investigated if Muslims within the party continue to raise a concern? The fact that there are Muslims in senior positions in the party does not make them somehow immune. The former Chairman is one of those raising concerns. Was the article intended to defend their right to wear burqa's? It reads to me like a criticism and you are using it as such. Is describing people as "looking like a bank robber" or "looking like letter boxes" 'humour', or an insult? If I understand you correctly, you do not believe that it was written in such a way as to align with and encourage anyone's prejudices? Have jewellers and banks opened their doors to people wearing masks over the last two years? I do not like the wearing of burqua's. I believe it's isolating. However, that is about encouraging freedom. That is to be worked on in the community. Forcing people to dress in a certain way to access basic services? Is that not state overreach? There has been no problem with this for years, why is there now, unless it provides some votes?To me it was an article defending the right to wear one,if as you say its to provide votes firstly it was written with the title Demark has got it wrong? in response to Denmark banning the burka so how you see that as a criticism is beyond me
If they were after votes as you say surely the would have gone down the same route as Austria,France,Belguim,Denmark, Bulgaria and the Netherlands and parts of Italy and Spain.
"It's a criticism because of the actual content. A headline and one phrase saying it shouldn't be banned and then going on to mock and insult those who wear it, and explain all the reasons why it should be removed in most circumstances. You really think that the main body of that article was not doing that? You also do not believe that it was written to appeal to people who are Islamophobic or prejudiced? You agree that women should be described in the terms that were used? I find that interpretation remarkable but people see what they choose to. If Muslim Tory's say that there is a problem, should they be listened to and something be done about it? What benefit to them or their party on raising the matter of they don't think that it's an issue? | |||
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"So, Islamophobia just doesn't exist in the Conservative party and doesn't need investigation even though it keeps being raised from within the Conservative? All of the below was written primarily to defend Muslim women, not insult them and get support from those who have strong Islamophobic tendancies? Really? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45083275.amp 'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.' 'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber". "If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said. "If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran. "I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes." He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.'Yes and so they should people have a right to see who they are dealing with, if for instance you run a jewellers would you open your security door to 3 men in micky mouse face masks? if so i suggest you are an idiot. Only answering in part, I see. Should Islamophobia be investigated if Muslims within the party continue to raise a concern? The fact that there are Muslims in senior positions in the party does not make them somehow immune. The former Chairman is one of those raising concerns. Was the article intended to defend their right to wear burqa's? It reads to me like a criticism and you are using it as such. Is describing people as "looking like a bank robber" or "looking like letter boxes" 'humour', or an insult? If I understand you correctly, you do not believe that it was written in such a way as to align with and encourage anyone's prejudices? Have jewellers and banks opened their doors to people wearing masks over the last two years? I do not like the wearing of burqua's. I believe it's isolating. However, that is about encouraging freedom. That is to be worked on in the community. Forcing people to dress in a certain way to access basic services? Is that not state overreach? There has been no problem with this for years, why is there now, unless it provides some votes?To me it was an article defending the right to wear one,if as you say its to provide votes firstly it was written with the title Demark has got it wrong? in response to Denmark banning the burka so how you see that as a criticism is beyond me
If they were after votes as you say surely the would have gone down the same route as Austria,France,Belguim,Denmark, Bulgaria and the Netherlands and parts of Italy and Spain.
It's a criticism because of the actual content.
A headline and one phrase saying it shouldn't be banned and then going on to mock and insult those who wear it, and explain all the reasons why it should be removed in most circumstances.
You really think that the main body of that article was not doing that?
You also do not believe that it was written to appeal to people who are Islamophobic or prejudiced?
You agree that women should be described in the terms that were used?
I find that interpretation remarkable but people see what they choose to.
If Muslim Tory's say that there is a problem, should they be listened to and something be done about it? What benefit to them or their party on raising the matter of they don't think that it's an issue? "yes of course if they perceive there to be a problem of course it should be looked at but this was not brought on by boris,s article supporting the right to wear a burka only you and fab are claiming that.You just cant stand the thought of the guy you despise supporting something you do and just goes to show how bigoted you are. | |||
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"So, Islamophobia just doesn't exist in the Conservative party and doesn't need investigation even though it keeps being raised from within the Conservative? All of the below was written primarily to defend Muslim women, not insult them and get support from those who have strong Islamophobic tendancies? Really? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45083275.amp 'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.' 'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber". "If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said. "If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran. "I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes." He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.'Yes and so they should people have a right to see who they are dealing with, if for instance you run a jewellers would you open your security door to 3 men in micky mouse face masks? if so i suggest you are an idiot. Only answering in part, I see. Should Islamophobia be investigated if Muslims within the party continue to raise a concern? The fact that there are Muslims in senior positions in the party does not make them somehow immune. The former Chairman is one of those raising concerns. Was the article intended to defend their right to wear burqa's? It reads to me like a criticism and you are using it as such. Is describing people as "looking like a bank robber" or "looking like letter boxes" 'humour', or an insult? If I understand you correctly, you do not believe that it was written in such a way as to align with and encourage anyone's prejudices? Have jewellers and banks opened their doors to people wearing masks over the last two years? I do not like the wearing of burqua's. I believe it's isolating. However, that is about encouraging freedom. That is to be worked on in the community. Forcing people to dress in a certain way to access basic services? Is that not state overreach? There has been no problem with this for years, why is there now, unless it provides some votes?To me it was an article defending the right to wear one,if as you say its to provide votes firstly it was written with the title Demark has got it wrong? in response to Denmark banning the burka so how you see that as a criticism is beyond me
If they were after votes as you say surely the would have gone down the same route as Austria,France,Belguim,Denmark, Bulgaria and the Netherlands and parts of Italy and Spain.
It's a criticism because of the actual content.
A headline and one phrase saying it shouldn't be banned and then going on to mock and insult those who wear it, and explain all the reasons why it should be removed in most circumstances.
You really think that the main body of that article was not doing that?
You also do not believe that it was written to appeal to people who are Islamophobic or prejudiced?
You agree that women should be described in the terms that were used?
I find that interpretation remarkable but people see what they choose to.
If Muslim Tory's say that there is a problem, should they be listened to and something be done about it? What benefit to them or their party on raising the matter of they don't think that it's an issue? yes of course if they perceive there to be a problem of course it should be looked at but this was not brought on by boris,s article supporting the right to wear a burka only you and fab are claiming that.You just cant stand the thought of the guy you despise supporting something you do and just goes to show how bigoted you are.
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"So, Islamophobia just doesn't exist in the Conservative party and doesn't need investigation even though it keeps being raised from within the Conservative? All of the below was written primarily to defend Muslim women, not insult them and get support from those who have strong Islamophobic tendancies? Really? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45083275.amp 'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.' 'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber". "If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said. "If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran. "I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes." He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.'Yes and so they should people have a right to see who they are dealing with, if for instance you run a jewellers would you open your security door to 3 men in micky mouse face masks? if so i suggest you are an idiot. Only answering in part, I see. Should Islamophobia be investigated if Muslims within the party continue to raise a concern? The fact that there are Muslims in senior positions in the party does not make them somehow immune. The former Chairman is one of those raising concerns. Was the article intended to defend their right to wear burqa's? It reads to me like a criticism and you are using it as such. Is describing people as "looking like a bank robber" or "looking like letter boxes" 'humour', or an insult? If I understand you correctly, you do not believe that it was written in such a way as to align with and encourage anyone's prejudices? Have jewellers and banks opened their doors to people wearing masks over the last two years? I do not like the wearing of burqua's. I believe it's isolating. However, that is about encouraging freedom. That is to be worked on in the community. Forcing people to dress in a certain way to access basic services? Is that not state overreach? There has been no problem with this for years, why is there now, unless it provides some votes?To me it was an article defending the right to wear one,if as you say its to provide votes firstly it was written with the title Demark has got it wrong? in response to Denmark banning the burka so how you see that as a criticism is beyond me
If they were after votes as you say surely the would have gone down the same route as Austria,France,Belguim,Denmark, Bulgaria and the Netherlands and parts of Italy and Spain.
It's a criticism because of the actual content.
A headline and one phrase saying it shouldn't be banned and then going on to mock and insult those who wear it, and explain all the reasons why it should be removed in most circumstances.
You really think that the main body of that article was not doing that?
You also do not believe that it was written to appeal to people who are Islamophobic or prejudiced?
You agree that women should be described in the terms that were used?
I find that interpretation remarkable but people see what they choose to.
If Muslim Tory's say that there is a problem, should they be listened to and something be done about it? What benefit to them or their party on raising the matter of they don't think that it's an issue? yes of course if they perceive there to be a problem of course it should be looked at but this was not brought on by boris,s article supporting the right to wear a burka only you and fab are claiming that.You just cant stand the thought of the guy you despise supporting something you do and just goes to show how bigoted you are.
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"Is the rise in antisemitism in the UK related to the growing Muslim population ? I read an article somewhere that stated many Jewish families are moving out of England!" Wouldn't blame them. There were videos of some Palestinian protestors shouting "R*pe their daughters and f*ck their mothers" with loudspeakers in public. The police did arrest them. But the fact they had the guts to shout such stuff in the public tells a lot about how bad some places are for the Jews. One of the main reasons why I will vote Tories in spite of the fact that I know they are corrupt. Labour will cuddle with the kind of guys I mentioned above. I would rather live under a corrupt government instead of a government that would keep silent about this kind of behaviour. | |||
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"So, Islamophobia just doesn't exist in the Conservative party and doesn't need investigation even though it keeps being raised from within the Conservative? All of the below was written primarily to defend Muslim women, not insult them and get support from those who have strong Islamophobic tendancies? Really? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45083275.amp 'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.' 'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber". "If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said. "If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran. "I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes." He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.'Yes and so they should people have a right to see who they are dealing with, if for instance you run a jewellers would you open your security door to 3 men in micky mouse face masks? if so i suggest you are an idiot. Only answering in part, I see. Should Islamophobia be investigated if Muslims within the party continue to raise a concern? The fact that there are Muslims in senior positions in the party does not make them somehow immune. The former Chairman is one of those raising concerns. Was the article intended to defend their right to wear burqa's? It reads to me like a criticism and you are using it as such. Is describing people as "looking like a bank robber" or "looking like letter boxes" 'humour', or an insult? If I understand you correctly, you do not believe that it was written in such a way as to align with and encourage anyone's prejudices? Have jewellers and banks opened their doors to people wearing masks over the last two years? I do not like the wearing of burqua's. I believe it's isolating. However, that is about encouraging freedom. That is to be worked on in the community. Forcing people to dress in a certain way to access basic services? Is that not state overreach? There has been no problem with this for years, why is there now, unless it provides some votes?To me it was an article defending the right to wear one,if as you say its to provide votes firstly it was written with the title Demark has got it wrong? in response to Denmark banning the burka so how you see that as a criticism is beyond me
If they were after votes as you say surely the would have gone down the same route as Austria,France,Belguim,Denmark, Bulgaria and the Netherlands and parts of Italy and Spain.
It's a criticism because of the actual content.
A headline and one phrase saying it shouldn't be banned and then going on to mock and insult those who wear it, and explain all the reasons why it should be removed in most circumstances.
You really think that the main body of that article was not doing that?
You also do not believe that it was written to appeal to people who are Islamophobic or prejudiced?
You agree that women should be described in the terms that were used?
I find that interpretation remarkable but people see what they choose to.
If Muslim Tory's say that there is a problem, should they be listened to and something be done about it? What benefit to them or their party on raising the matter of they don't think that it's an issue? yes of course if they perceive there to be a problem of course it should be looked at but this was not brought on by boris,s article supporting the right to wear a burka only you and fab are claiming that.You just cant stand the thought of the guy you despise supporting something you do and just goes to show how bigoted you are.
"That sounds a little like one of BoJo's apologies. If they "perceive" that there is a problem. However, I will assume that is just a sign of the times and that represents unqualified support. I don't think that anyone indicated that there is a direct causal link between BoJo's article and the complaints. The post was that there is a fundamental problem in the party and at some point talking about the Labour Party and anti-Semitism is not going to work anymore. BoJo's article is an indicator of that. In context, he was starting his run for leader and this is how he chose to gain publicity and support amongst the party membership. This also ligitimises this language and attitude. After all, the Prime Minister wrote it. Your opinion on how I think is interesting, but inaccurate. I can only deduce that you do not think that Muslims should find being described as "looking like a bank robber" or "looking like letter boxes" offensive. Also that these phrases and the expectation that Muslim women should remove their face coverings on demand is, in in fact, a way to defend their right to wear the burqua. It is certainly one interpretation. I do not wear a burqua. I don't think that it is in anyway appropriate. I am not Muslim. What do you think that I "do" that BoJo supports? | |||
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"Is the rise in antisemitism in the UK related to the growing Muslim population ? I read an article somewhere that stated many Jewish families are moving out of England! Wouldn't blame them. There were videos of some Palestinian protestors shouting "R*pe their daughters and f*ck their mothers" with loudspeakers in public. The police did arrest them. But the fact they had the guts to shout such stuff in the public tells a lot about how bad some places are for the Jews. One of the main reasons why I will vote Tories in spite of the fact that I know they are corrupt. Labour will cuddle with the kind of guys I mentioned above. I would rather live under a corrupt government instead of a government that would keep silent about this kind of behaviour." So the actions of a small number of people is indicative of everyone of the same religion? I don't view people in that way. That is, in fact, a demonstration of prejudice. Muslims have suffers more abuse since 2011. Eastern Europeans have suffered more abuse during and since the referendum. Chinese more abuse since Covid. The Conservative party "cuddles" with these people. Who should you vote for to prevent that? At least the Labour party has acknowledged the problem and dealt with it. Perhaps that was their mistake. They should just deny everything like the Tory party does, however transparent the lie? I guess you decide what to take offence at. | |||
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"So, Islamophobia just doesn't exist in the Conservative party and doesn't need investigation even though it keeps being raised from within the Conservative? All of the below was written primarily to defend Muslim women, not insult them and get support from those who have strong Islamophobic tendancies? Really? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45083275.amp 'He said he was against bans on face-covering veils in public places, in his Telegraph column, but that it was "ridiculous" people chose to wear them.' 'He said he felt "fully entitled" to expect women to remove face coverings when talking to him at his MP surgery - and schools and universities should be able to take the same approach if a student "turns up... looking like a bank robber". "If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you," he said. "If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree - and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran. "I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes." He said businesses and government agencies should be able to "enforce a dress code" that allowed them to see customers' faces.'Yes and so they should people have a right to see who they are dealing with, if for instance you run a jewellers would you open your security door to 3 men in micky mouse face masks? if so i suggest you are an idiot. Only answering in part, I see. Should Islamophobia be investigated if Muslims within the party continue to raise a concern? The fact that there are Muslims in senior positions in the party does not make them somehow immune. The former Chairman is one of those raising concerns. Was the article intended to defend their right to wear burqa's? It reads to me like a criticism and you are using it as such. Is describing people as "looking like a bank robber" or "looking like letter boxes" 'humour', or an insult? If I understand you correctly, you do not believe that it was written in such a way as to align with and encourage anyone's prejudices? Have jewellers and banks opened their doors to people wearing masks over the last two years? I do not like the wearing of burqua's. I believe it's isolating. However, that is about encouraging freedom. That is to be worked on in the community. Forcing people to dress in a certain way to access basic services? Is that not state overreach? There has been no problem with this for years, why is there now, unless it provides some votes?To me it was an article defending the right to wear one,if as you say its to provide votes firstly it was written with the title Demark has got it wrong? in response to Denmark banning the burka so how you see that as a criticism is beyond me
If they were after votes as you say surely the would have gone down the same route as Austria,France,Belguim,Denmark, Bulgaria and the Netherlands and parts of Italy and Spain.
It's a criticism because of the actual content.
A headline and one phrase saying it shouldn't be banned and then going on to mock and insult those who wear it, and explain all the reasons why it should be removed in most circumstances.
You really think that the main body of that article was not doing that?
You also do not believe that it was written to appeal to people who are Islamophobic or prejudiced?
You agree that women should be described in the terms that were used?
I find that interpretation remarkable but people see what they choose to.
If Muslim Tory's say that there is a problem, should they be listened to and something be done about it? What benefit to them or their party on raising the matter of they don't think that it's an issue? yes of course if they perceive there to be a problem of course it should be looked at but this was not brought on by boris,s article supporting the right to wear a burka only you and fab are claiming that.You just cant stand the thought of the guy you despise supporting something you do and just goes to show how bigoted you are.
More personal insults, sad to see I would say more of a fact. "No. You insulted me personally. That's on you. However, BoJo doesn't accept responsibility for his reactions, so why would you? | |||
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