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"Sigh… “we told you so” barely covers the stupidity of it all "they won they can get over it | |||
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"EU introduced biometric checks across schengen region in 2017 - now these are being blamed for the queues.. What queues you may ask given that the web cameras in the motorways have been turned off so you cannot see them plus BBC is reporting the cancellation of the 3 month spell of Adele in the US which is much more newsworthy. The queues that can now be seen clearly from space yet....are still not newsworthy. WTF - obviously the fault of the EU or, as others have said, there have always been queues like this. Believe what you want but queues of 17km - surely there is a cost to this which has to be absorbed by someone and I doubt if that person will be the poor lorry driver. I am sure that the response to this post will be that there is nothing to see here. Let's wait and see shall we.." The BBC are reporting it https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-60096001 DFDS are reporting a ship out of action which has hindered crossing and looking at the guardians article it seems for some reason the third week of January sees a big spike in lorry crossing. A procedure called TAP is in place which has been needed in years gone by. It seems that September could be the next challenge with a new biometric check being implemented. | |||
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"what they should be reporting is that france has NO left wing candidate in the presidential race for the first time in history! " Oh my gosh... The French hater is back.. What a strange message and what is this to do with the queues at Dover and Calais? Oh didums - Brexit going well then? Perhaps you should be posting this somewhere else like the Feench thread? Or is this simply desperation to change the subject to anything other than how wonderful Global Britain (more commonly known as Little England) is doing? Start your own thread rather than gas lighting. | |||
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"what they should be reporting is that france has NO left wing candidate in the presidential race for the first time in history! Oh my gosh... The French hater is back.. What a strange message and what is this to do with the queues at Dover and Calais? Oh didums - Brexit going well then? Perhaps you should be posting this somewhere else like the Feench thread? Or is this simply desperation to change the subject to anything other than how wonderful Global Britain (more commonly known as Little England) is doing? Start your own thread rather than gas lighting. " Why would you think I hate france? Strange comment! but surely a left wing president is better at everything! Isn't that the normal rationale? So they'd sort it all in no time  | |||
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"EU introduced biometric checks across schengen region in 2017 BBC is reporting the cancellation of the 3 month spell of Adele in the US which is much more newsworthy. " OMG , no Adele in the US!!!! Thats going to hurt record sales, who could have known? | |||
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"what they should be reporting is that france has NO left wing candidate in the presidential race for the first time in history! " Lol This is the funniest "don't mind our problems, look over there", I've seen in ages. Bravo. | |||
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"what they should be reporting is that france has NO left wing candidate in the presidential race for the first time in history! " It is probably for another thread but yes it's a shame for France though think it's no left wing candidate is likely to progress as opposed to no left wing candidate at all. | |||
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"Lorry Queues BBC reporting that a ferry being out of commission is causing the queues. I make it 2,200+ lorries in 17 miles and a ferry takes 150 lorries. 40ft a lorry? Even if you half it for gaps it’s still 1,000. Let's assume that two ferries are out of commission - that is still a pretty big queue. There is also a queue at Calais where lorries are waiting to cross the other way. But...let's assume that it is a couple of ferries out of commission. Surprisingly enough, the motorway webcam was also out of order when the queues were so big but, now it is the weekend and the queues have gone down a little, the cameras are back in action. Phew - that was lucky. BTW in France, only refrigerated lorries are allowed to move on Sundays so weekends are always quieter. I am sure that it will be fine once the ferries are back in commission but if not, that camera will out of action and the BBC will be looking for some other non event to focus on rather than reporting anything that could be misconstrued about the decision of the UK to take back control." Maybe you should point this out to the BBC as they ran the story and got the information from DFDS and Dover. It was reported by the BBC including being on the tv news so not sure why the claims of it not being reported come from | |||
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"Lorry Queues BBC reporting that a ferry being out of commission is causing the queues. I make it 2,200+ lorries in 17 miles and a ferry takes 150 lorries. 40ft a lorry? Even if you half it for gaps it’s still 1,000. Let's assume that two ferries are out of commission - that is still a pretty big queue. There is also a queue at Calais where lorries are waiting to cross the other way. But...let's assume that it is a couple of ferries out of commission. Surprisingly enough, the motorway webcam was also out of order when the queues were so big but, now it is the weekend and the queues have gone down a little, the cameras are back in action. Phew - that was lucky. BTW in France, only refrigerated lorries are allowed to move on Sundays so weekends are always quieter. I am sure that it will be fine once the ferries are back in commission but if not, that camera will out of action and the BBC will be looking for some other non event to focus on rather than reporting anything that could be misconstrued about the decision of the UK to take back control. Maybe you should point this out to the BBC as they ran the story and got the information from DFDS and Dover. It was reported by the BBC including being on the tv news so not sure why the claims of it not being reported come from" There has been plenty of reports over this issue but basically other news is drowning it out at present, the media is more interested in party gate than any other story. | |||
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"Lorry Queues BBC reporting that a ferry being out of commission is causing the queues. I make it 2,200+ lorries in 17 miles and a ferry takes 150 lorries. 40ft a lorry? Even if you half it for gaps it’s still 1,000. Let's assume that two ferries are out of commission - that is still a pretty big queue. There is also a queue at Calais where lorries are waiting to cross the other way. But...let's assume that it is a couple of ferries out of commission. Surprisingly enough, the motorway webcam was also out of order when the queues were so big but, now it is the weekend and the queues have gone down a little, the cameras are back in action. Phew - that was lucky. BTW in France, only refrigerated lorries are allowed to move on Sundays so weekends are always quieter. I am sure that it will be fine once the ferries are back in commission but if not, that camera will out of action and the BBC will be looking for some other non event to focus on rather than reporting anything that could be misconstrued about the decision of the UK to take back control. Maybe you should point this out to the BBC as they ran the story and got the information from DFDS and Dover. It was reported by the BBC including being on the tv news so not sure why the claims of it not being reported come from There has been plenty of reports over this issue but basically other news is drowning it out at present, the media is more interested in party gate than any other story." This | |||
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"it seems strange that some people are claiming that the media are ignoring this story. i've noticed plenty of coverage on all platforms over the last week regarding the ever growing lorry queues caused by brexit that are bringing kent to a standstill and causing huge disruption to the local economy. "Me too hence why I posted the link to a BBC article which was available hours before this thread was started | |||
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"It looks like there is vert little to worry about according to Logistics UK . The vast majority of lorries arriving at the Channel ports have the correct documentation and despite rising volumes the situation is an improvement on this time last year, according to Logistics UK. The business group was responding to reports showing long lines of HGVs apparently queuing to get into Dover due to delays in processing documentation. Concerns have also been growing that the introduction of new biometric checks at the port due to be implemented later this year could result in further delays because of the lack of infrastructure to support them. A Logistics UK spokeswoman said: “The queues we are seeing now result from the implementation of UK import requirements, combined with volumes that are now picking up. “It would appear that a small percentage of vehicles arriving at the border have incorrect documentation and have to contact their base or customers to have the goods movement reference re-issued or corrected. “When volumes of traffic are high, this results in queues. However, we understand that there are virtually no trucks arriving without any documentation – which is an improvement on the start of the year.” " Hello there The drivers blame cancelled ferry crossings - there are temporarily fewer ferries in operation than normal. But they also cite the post-Brexit rules that now govern their working lives. Last year, which was Britain's first outside the EU single market and customs union, companies had 60 days to fill in UK customs documents after exporting goods to the EU. But since 1 January, those forms have to completed in full, before lorries and vans can board ferries heading for Europe every day. 'Brexit bit-by-bit' Thousands of drivers need to get their documents checked and the process is taking time. "For us, the government is staging Brexit bit-by-bit," says John Shirley, who's run a freight-forwarding company in Dover for 25 years. "That's caused all sorts of headaches for people, they don't know the paperwork properly or haven't prepared themselves - that's what's causing the delays here." He recounts meeting a driver earlier in the week who had been stuck in Dover for four days, with a lorry going to Germany in a journey which used to be routine. Won't it get better with time, I suggest, as companies get used to a new system? "I don't know, I suspect it won't do," he replies. "And in July we get an additional set of controls on foodstuffs." So, what happens in places like Dover will have a wider impact. The smoother the system can become, the better for businesses across the country. But while those who still believe they can make a profit are finding new ways to trade, and to cope with bureaucracy and delay, others have concluded that it is no longer worth the hassle. Global trade rebounded pretty well last year from the slump produced by the Covid pandemic in 2020. But there was not much bounce back for British trade with the EU. Many European exporters who used to trade into Great Britain seem to have decided to focus their attention elsewhere in the single market instead, or further afield. German exports to the rest of the EU, for example, grew by 17% in the first eleven months of last year, compared to the same period in 2020. They also rose by 18% to the US. But exports to the UK fell by 2%. That's a massive difference. Britain is doing much less trade with Europe than it used to. New deals From the cliffs above Dover, you can watch ferries coming and going on a constant basis. The government says traders need to get used to new rules here, and also take advantage of new trade deals it is negotiating on the other side of the world. But two years after Britain left the EU, the idea of seamless trade across the narrow stretch of water beneath the white cliffs? That ship seems to have already sailed. | |||
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"It looks like there is vert little to worry about according to Logistics UK . The vast majority of lorries arriving at the Channel ports have the correct documentation and despite rising volumes the situation is an improvement on this time last year, according to Logistics UK. The business group was responding to reports showing long lines of HGVs apparently queuing to get into Dover due to delays in processing documentation. Concerns have also been growing that the introduction of new biometric checks at the port due to be implemented later this year could result in further delays because of the lack of infrastructure to support them. A Logistics UK spokeswoman said: “The queues we are seeing now result from the implementation of UK import requirements, combined with volumes that are now picking up. “It would appear that a small percentage of vehicles arriving at the border have incorrect documentation and have to contact their base or customers to have the goods movement reference re-issued or corrected. “When volumes of traffic are high, this results in queues. However, we understand that there are virtually no trucks arriving without any documentation – which is an improvement on the start of the year.” Hello there The drivers blame cancelled ferry crossings - there are temporarily fewer ferries in operation than normal. But they also cite the post-Brexit rules that now govern their working lives. Last year, which was Britain's first outside the EU single market and customs union, companies had 60 days to fill in UK customs documents after exporting goods to the EU. But since 1 January, those forms have to completed in full, before lorries and vans can board ferries heading for Europe every day. 'Brexit bit-by-bit' Thousands of drivers need to get their documents checked and the process is taking time. "For us, the government is staging Brexit bit-by-bit," says John Shirley, who's run a freight-forwarding company in Dover for 25 years. "That's caused all sorts of headaches for people, they don't know the paperwork properly or haven't prepared themselves - that's what's causing the delays here." He recounts meeting a driver earlier in the week who had been stuck in Dover for four days, with a lorry going to Germany in a journey which used to be routine. Won't it get better with time, I suggest, as companies get used to a new system? "I don't know, I suspect it won't do," he replies. "And in July we get an additional set of controls on foodstuffs." So, what happens in places like Dover will have a wider impact. The smoother the system can become, the better for businesses across the country. But while those who still believe they can make a profit are finding new ways to trade, and to cope with bureaucracy and delay, others have concluded that it is no longer worth the hassle. Global trade rebounded pretty well last year from the slump produced by the Covid pandemic in 2020. But there was not much bounce back for British trade with the EU. Many European exporters who used to trade into Great Britain seem to have decided to focus their attention elsewhere in the single market instead, or further afield. German exports to the rest of the EU, for example, grew by 17% in the first eleven months of last year, compared to the same period in 2020. They also rose by 18% to the US. But exports to the UK fell by 2%. That's a massive difference. Britain is doing much less trade with Europe than it used to. New deals From the cliffs above Dover, you can watch ferries coming and going on a constant basis. The government says traders need to get used to new rules here, and also take advantage of new trade deals it is negotiating on the other side of the world. But two years after Britain left the EU, the idea of seamless trade across the narrow stretch of water beneath the white cliffs? That ship seems to have already sailed. " People will always go for the easiest and cost effective option i see that morocco has increased its trade to the uk by 700% since brexit . | |||
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"It looks like there is vert little to worry about according to Logistics UK . The vast majority of lorries arriving at the Channel ports have the correct documentation and despite rising volumes the situation is an improvement on this time last year, according to Logistics UK. The business group was responding to reports showing long lines of HGVs apparently queuing to get into Dover due to delays in processing documentation. Concerns have also been growing that the introduction of new biometric checks at the port due to be implemented later this year could result in further delays because of the lack of infrastructure to support them. A Logistics UK spokeswoman said: “The queues we are seeing now result from the implementation of UK import requirements, combined with volumes that are now picking up. “It would appear that a small percentage of vehicles arriving at the border have incorrect documentation and have to contact their base or customers to have the goods movement reference re-issued or corrected. “When volumes of traffic are high, this results in queues. However, we understand that there are virtually no trucks arriving without any documentation – which is an improvement on the start of the year.” Hello there The drivers blame cancelled ferry crossings - there are temporarily fewer ferries in operation than normal. But they also cite the post-Brexit rules that now govern their working lives. Last year, which was Britain's first outside the EU single market and customs union, companies had 60 days to fill in UK customs documents after exporting goods to the EU. But since 1 January, those forms have to completed in full, before lorries and vans can board ferries heading for Europe every day. 'Brexit bit-by-bit' Thousands of drivers need to get their documents checked and the process is taking time. "For us, the government is staging Brexit bit-by-bit," says John Shirley, who's run a freight-forwarding company in Dover for 25 years. "That's caused all sorts of headaches for people, they don't know the paperwork properly or haven't prepared themselves - that's what's causing the delays here." He recounts meeting a driver earlier in the week who had been stuck in Dover for four days, with a lorry going to Germany in a journey which used to be routine. Won't it get better with time, I suggest, as companies get used to a new system? "I don't know, I suspect it won't do," he replies. "And in July we get an additional set of controls on foodstuffs." So, what happens in places like Dover will have a wider impact. The smoother the system can become, the better for businesses across the country. But while those who still believe they can make a profit are finding new ways to trade, and to cope with bureaucracy and delay, others have concluded that it is no longer worth the hassle. Global trade rebounded pretty well last year from the slump produced by the Covid pandemic in 2020. But there was not much bounce back for British trade with the EU. Many European exporters who used to trade into Great Britain seem to have decided to focus their attention elsewhere in the single market instead, or further afield. German exports to the rest of the EU, for example, grew by 17% in the first eleven months of last year, compared to the same period in 2020. They also rose by 18% to the US. But exports to the UK fell by 2%. That's a massive difference. Britain is doing much less trade with Europe than it used to. New deals From the cliffs above Dover, you can watch ferries coming and going on a constant basis. The government says traders need to get used to new rules here, and also take advantage of new trade deals it is negotiating on the other side of the world. But two years after Britain left the EU, the idea of seamless trade across the narrow stretch of water beneath the white cliffs? That ship seems to have already sailed. People will always go for the easiest and cost effective option i see that morocco has increased its trade to the uk by 700% since brexit ." And? What is this, whataboutery  | |||
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"It looks like there is vert little to worry about according to Logistics UK . The vast majority of lorries arriving at the Channel ports have the correct documentation and despite rising volumes the situation is an improvement on this time last year, according to Logistics UK. The business group was responding to reports showing long lines of HGVs apparently queuing to get into Dover due to delays in processing documentation. Concerns have also been growing that the introduction of new biometric checks at the port due to be implemented later this year could result in further delays because of the lack of infrastructure to support them. A Logistics UK spokeswoman said: “The queues we are seeing now result from the implementation of UK import requirements, combined with volumes that are now picking up. “It would appear that a small percentage of vehicles arriving at the border have incorrect documentation and have to contact their base or customers to have the goods movement reference re-issued or corrected. “When volumes of traffic are high, this results in queues. However, we understand that there are virtually no trucks arriving without any documentation – which is an improvement on the start of the year.” Hello there The drivers blame cancelled ferry crossings - there are temporarily fewer ferries in operation than normal. But they also cite the post-Brexit rules that now govern their working lives. Last year, which was Britain's first outside the EU single market and customs union, companies had 60 days to fill in UK customs documents after exporting goods to the EU. But since 1 January, those forms have to completed in full, before lorries and vans can board ferries heading for Europe every day. 'Brexit bit-by-bit' Thousands of drivers need to get their documents checked and the process is taking time. "For us, the government is staging Brexit bit-by-bit," says John Shirley, who's run a freight-forwarding company in Dover for 25 years. "That's caused all sorts of headaches for people, they don't know the paperwork properly or haven't prepared themselves - that's what's causing the delays here." He recounts meeting a driver earlier in the week who had been stuck in Dover for four days, with a lorry going to Germany in a journey which used to be routine. Won't it get better with time, I suggest, as companies get used to a new system? "I don't know, I suspect it won't do," he replies. "And in July we get an additional set of controls on foodstuffs." So, what happens in places like Dover will have a wider impact. The smoother the system can become, the better for businesses across the country. But while those who still believe they can make a profit are finding new ways to trade, and to cope with bureaucracy and delay, others have concluded that it is no longer worth the hassle. Global trade rebounded pretty well last year from the slump produced by the Covid pandemic in 2020. But there was not much bounce back for British trade with the EU. Many European exporters who used to trade into Great Britain seem to have decided to focus their attention elsewhere in the single market instead, or further afield. German exports to the rest of the EU, for example, grew by 17% in the first eleven months of last year, compared to the same period in 2020. They also rose by 18% to the US. But exports to the UK fell by 2%. That's a massive difference. Britain is doing much less trade with Europe than it used to. New deals From the cliffs above Dover, you can watch ferries coming and going on a constant basis. The government says traders need to get used to new rules here, and also take advantage of new trade deals it is negotiating on the other side of the world. But two years after Britain left the EU, the idea of seamless trade across the narrow stretch of water beneath the white cliffs? That ship seems to have already sailed. People will always go for the easiest and cost effective option i see that morocco has increased its trade to the uk by 700% since brexit . And? What is this, whataboutery "How do you work that out? its quiet simple to understand if trade with the eu is made hard people will go elsewhere and trade = less lorries, simple really.  | |||
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"It looks like there is vert little to worry about according to Logistics UK . The vast majority of lorries arriving at the Channel ports have the correct documentation and despite rising volumes the situation is an improvement on this time last year, according to Logistics UK. The business group was responding to reports showing long lines of HGVs apparently queuing to get into Dover due to delays in processing documentation. Concerns have also been growing that the introduction of new biometric checks at the port due to be implemented later this year could result in further delays because of the lack of infrastructure to support them. A Logistics UK spokeswoman said: “The queues we are seeing now result from the implementation of UK import requirements, combined with volumes that are now picking up. “It would appear that a small percentage of vehicles arriving at the border have incorrect documentation and have to contact their base or customers to have the goods movement reference re-issued or corrected. “When volumes of traffic are high, this results in queues. However, we understand that there are virtually no trucks arriving without any documentation – which is an improvement on the start of the year.” Hello there The drivers blame cancelled ferry crossings - there are temporarily fewer ferries in operation than normal. But they also cite the post-Brexit rules that now govern their working lives. Last year, which was Britain's first outside the EU single market and customs union, companies had 60 days to fill in UK customs documents after exporting goods to the EU. But since 1 January, those forms have to completed in full, before lorries and vans can board ferries heading for Europe every day. 'Brexit bit-by-bit' Thousands of drivers need to get their documents checked and the process is taking time. "For us, the government is staging Brexit bit-by-bit," says John Shirley, who's run a freight-forwarding company in Dover for 25 years. "That's caused all sorts of headaches for people, they don't know the paperwork properly or haven't prepared themselves - that's what's causing the delays here." He recounts meeting a driver earlier in the week who had been stuck in Dover for four days, with a lorry going to Germany in a journey which used to be routine. Won't it get better with time, I suggest, as companies get used to a new system? "I don't know, I suspect it won't do," he replies. "And in July we get an additional set of controls on foodstuffs." So, what happens in places like Dover will have a wider impact. The smoother the system can become, the better for businesses across the country. But while those who still believe they can make a profit are finding new ways to trade, and to cope with bureaucracy and delay, others have concluded that it is no longer worth the hassle. Global trade rebounded pretty well last year from the slump produced by the Covid pandemic in 2020. But there was not much bounce back for British trade with the EU. Many European exporters who used to trade into Great Britain seem to have decided to focus their attention elsewhere in the single market instead, or further afield. German exports to the rest of the EU, for example, grew by 17% in the first eleven months of last year, compared to the same period in 2020. They also rose by 18% to the US. But exports to the UK fell by 2%. That's a massive difference. Britain is doing much less trade with Europe than it used to. New deals From the cliffs above Dover, you can watch ferries coming and going on a constant basis. The government says traders need to get used to new rules here, and also take advantage of new trade deals it is negotiating on the other side of the world. But two years after Britain left the EU, the idea of seamless trade across the narrow stretch of water beneath the white cliffs? That ship seems to have already sailed. People will always go for the easiest and cost effective option i see that morocco has increased its trade to the uk by 700% since brexit . And? What is this, whataboutery How do you work that out? its quiet simple to understand if trade with the eu is made hard people will go elsewhere and trade = less lorries, simple really. "The mighty Morocco | |||
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"It looks like there is vert little to worry about according to Logistics UK . The vast majority of lorries arriving at the Channel ports have the correct documentation and despite rising volumes the situation is an improvement on this time last year, according to Logistics UK. The business group was responding to reports showing long lines of HGVs apparently queuing to get into Dover due to delays in processing documentation. Concerns have also been growing that the introduction of new biometric checks at the port due to be implemented later this year could result in further delays because of the lack of infrastructure to support them. A Logistics UK spokeswoman said: “The queues we are seeing now result from the implementation of UK import requirements, combined with volumes that are now picking up. “It would appear that a small percentage of vehicles arriving at the border have incorrect documentation and have to contact their base or customers to have the goods movement reference re-issued or corrected. “When volumes of traffic are high, this results in queues. However, we understand that there are virtually no trucks arriving without any documentation – which is an improvement on the start of the year.” Hello there The drivers blame cancelled ferry crossings - there are temporarily fewer ferries in operation than normal. But they also cite the post-Brexit rules that now govern their working lives. Last year, which was Britain's first outside the EU single market and customs union, companies had 60 days to fill in UK customs documents after exporting goods to the EU. But since 1 January, those forms have to completed in full, before lorries and vans can board ferries heading for Europe every day. 'Brexit bit-by-bit' Thousands of drivers need to get their documents checked and the process is taking time. "For us, the government is staging Brexit bit-by-bit," says John Shirley, who's run a freight-forwarding company in Dover for 25 years. "That's caused all sorts of headaches for people, they don't know the paperwork properly or haven't prepared themselves - that's what's causing the delays here." He recounts meeting a driver earlier in the week who had been stuck in Dover for four days, with a lorry going to Germany in a journey which used to be routine. Won't it get better with time, I suggest, as companies get used to a new system? "I don't know, I suspect it won't do," he replies. "And in July we get an additional set of controls on foodstuffs." So, what happens in places like Dover will have a wider impact. The smoother the system can become, the better for businesses across the country. But while those who still believe they can make a profit are finding new ways to trade, and to cope with bureaucracy and delay, others have concluded that it is no longer worth the hassle. Global trade rebounded pretty well last year from the slump produced by the Covid pandemic in 2020. But there was not much bounce back for British trade with the EU. Many European exporters who used to trade into Great Britain seem to have decided to focus their attention elsewhere in the single market instead, or further afield. German exports to the rest of the EU, for example, grew by 17% in the first eleven months of last year, compared to the same period in 2020. They also rose by 18% to the US. But exports to the UK fell by 2%. That's a massive difference. Britain is doing much less trade with Europe than it used to. New deals From the cliffs above Dover, you can watch ferries coming and going on a constant basis. The government says traders need to get used to new rules here, and also take advantage of new trade deals it is negotiating on the other side of the world. But two years after Britain left the EU, the idea of seamless trade across the narrow stretch of water beneath the white cliffs? That ship seems to have already sailed. People will always go for the easiest and cost effective option i see that morocco has increased its trade to the uk by 700% since brexit ." There was a BBC article a few weeks back looking at this first year of trade. Even though last year imports from the EU (things they sell us) were not subjected to checks they suffered far worse than exports to the EU (things we sell to them) which were subjected to checks. They were somewhat baffled by it but pleased the exports were doing better than they anticipated. They did note that UK trade does seem to be shifting to other parts of the world and new opportunities being opened up. Speaking of opportunities the other day they reported northern Irish ports are busier than ever as ROI haulers are using them instead of there own ports to avoid checks | |||
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"It looks like there is vert little to worry about according to Logistics UK . The vast majority of lorries arriving at the Channel ports have the correct documentation and despite rising volumes the situation is an improvement on this time last year, according to Logistics UK. The business group was responding to reports showing long lines of HGVs apparently queuing to get into Dover due to delays in processing documentation. Concerns have also been growing that the introduction of new biometric checks at the port due to be implemented later this year could result in further delays because of the lack of infrastructure to support them. A Logistics UK spokeswoman said: “The queues we are seeing now result from the implementation of UK import requirements, combined with volumes that are now picking up. “It would appear that a small percentage of vehicles arriving at the border have incorrect documentation and have to contact their base or customers to have the goods movement reference re-issued or corrected. “When volumes of traffic are high, this results in queues. However, we understand that there are virtually no trucks arriving without any documentation – which is an improvement on the start of the year.” " Why are the queues going towards dover if as you’re quote states these are import problems?? I smell something fishy as logistics U.K. know the difference between import and export. the import checks aren’t being introduced until later in the year if ever, | |||
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" “It would appear that a small percentage of vehicles arriving at the border have incorrect documentation and have to contact their base or customers to have the goods movement reference re-issued or corrected." This is going back a few months, BUT!! I turned up at Portsmouth with a van load of my stuff I was taking down to my winter home in Portugal for 4 months,just clothes, marmite, beans and two motorcycles, one road bike with UK tax and MOT, (documented), and one off road bike with a purchase receipt. I WAS NOT ALLOWED TO SAIL BECAUSE OF "EU LAWS" the cunts didnt have a clue what the law was and just decided to deny me sailing because it made their lives eaisier" But people knew they voted to end freedom of movement so must be happy to see your problem as their desires are coming true. . Winning. | |||
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"It looks like there is vert little to worry about according to Logistics UK . The vast majority of lorries arriving at the Channel ports have the correct documentation and despite rising volumes the situation is an improvement on this time last year, according to Logistics UK. The business group was responding to reports showing long lines of HGVs apparently queuing to get into Dover due to delays in processing documentation. Concerns have also been growing that the introduction of new biometric checks at the port due to be implemented later this year could result in further delays because of the lack of infrastructure to support them. A Logistics UK spokeswoman said: “The queues we are seeing now result from the implementation of UK import requirements, combined with volumes that are now picking up. “It would appear that a small percentage of vehicles arriving at the border have incorrect documentation and have to contact their base or customers to have the goods movement reference re-issued or corrected. “When volumes of traffic are high, this results in queues. However, we understand that there are virtually no trucks arriving without any documentation – which is an improvement on the start of the year.” Hello there The drivers blame cancelled ferry crossings - there are temporarily fewer ferries in operation than normal. But they also cite the post-Brexit rules that now govern their working lives. Last year, which was Britain's first outside the EU single market and customs union, companies had 60 days to fill in UK customs documents after exporting goods to the EU. But since 1 January, those forms have to completed in full, before lorries and vans can board ferries heading for Europe every day. 'Brexit bit-by-bit' Thousands of drivers need to get their documents checked and the process is taking time. "For us, the government is staging Brexit bit-by-bit," says John Shirley, who's run a freight-forwarding company in Dover for 25 years. "That's caused all sorts of headaches for people, they don't know the paperwork properly or haven't prepared themselves - that's what's causing the delays here." He recounts meeting a driver earlier in the week who had been stuck in Dover for four days, with a lorry going to Germany in a journey which used to be routine. Won't it get better with time, I suggest, as companies get used to a new system? "I don't know, I suspect it won't do," he replies. "And in July we get an additional set of controls on foodstuffs." So, what happens in places like Dover will have a wider impact. The smoother the system can become, the better for businesses across the country. But while those who still believe they can make a profit are finding new ways to trade, and to cope with bureaucracy and delay, others have concluded that it is no longer worth the hassle. Global trade rebounded pretty well last year from the slump produced by the Covid pandemic in 2020. But there was not much bounce back for British trade with the EU. Many European exporters who used to trade into Great Britain seem to have decided to focus their attention elsewhere in the single market instead, or further afield. German exports to the rest of the EU, for example, grew by 17% in the first eleven months of last year, compared to the same period in 2020. They also rose by 18% to the US. But exports to the UK fell by 2%. That's a massive difference. Britain is doing much less trade with Europe than it used to. New deals From the cliffs above Dover, you can watch ferries coming and going on a constant basis. The government says traders need to get used to new rules here, and also take advantage of new trade deals it is negotiating on the other side of the world. But two years after Britain left the EU, the idea of seamless trade across the narrow stretch of water beneath the white cliffs? That ship seems to have already sailed. People will always go for the easiest and cost effective option i see that morocco has increased its trade to the uk by 700% since brexit . And? What is this, whataboutery How do you work that out? its quiet simple to understand if trade with the eu is made hard people will go elsewhere and trade = less lorries, simple really. "Some new shipping routes directly into Morocco have been added in the last two years which call at EU ports but do not require transit status as the containers do not leave the ships so they are taking transit business away from the route through Spain. It skewers the numbers dramatically as the tonnage would have been EU exports. In reality I think it’s mostly diverted trade. There has been a 1000 tons increase in strawberry exports from a company funnily enough called Costa (Australian based)
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" “It would appear that a small percentage of vehicles arriving at the border have incorrect documentation and have to contact their base or customers to have the goods movement reference re-issued or corrected." This is going back a few months, BUT!! I turned up at Portsmouth with a van load of my stuff I was taking down to my winter home in Portugal for 4 months,just clothes, marmite, beans and two motorcycles, one road bike with UK tax and MOT, (documented), and one off road bike with a purchase receipt. I WAS NOT ALLOWED TO SAIL BECAUSE OF "EU LAWS" the cunts didnt have a clue what the law was and just decided to deny me sailing because it made their lives eaisier" Extra red tape caused by brexit. If only there had been some way of knowing. If only someone would have said something. Darn. | |||
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" “It would appear that a small percentage of vehicles arriving at the border have incorrect documentation and have to contact their base or customers to have the goods movement reference re-issued or corrected." This is going back a few months, BUT!! I turned up at Portsmouth with a van load of my stuff I was taking down to my winter home in Portugal for 4 months,just clothes, marmite, beans and two motorcycles, one road bike with UK tax and MOT, (documented), and one off road bike with a purchase receipt. I WAS NOT ALLOWED TO SAIL BECAUSE OF "EU LAWS" the cunts didnt have a clue what the law was and just decided to deny me sailing because it made their lives eaisier Extra red tape caused by brexit. If only there had been some way of knowing. If only someone would have said something. Darn." If only people had prepared for something they knew was coming??? | |||
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