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"I'm waiting for the statue of Gandhi in Parliament Square to be torn down." Why ? | |||
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"It didn't take long. Just days after the acquittal of the Colston 4, a man is arrested for attacking, with a hammer, the statue of Prospero and Ariel at the BBC. This statue, created by the paedophilie Eric Gill, has been the subject of much controversy, and it now remains to see what happens legally. " Eric Gill, the man who sexually abused his daughters, sisters and dogs?? | |||
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"It didn't take long. Just days after the acquittal of the Colston 4, a man is arrested for attacking, with a hammer, the statue of Prospero and Ariel at the BBC. This statue, created by the paedophilie Eric Gill, has been the subject of much controversy, and it now remains to see what happens legally. Eric Gill, the man who sexually abused his daughters, sisters and dogs??" Thats the one. And Ghandi has had some suspicions of paedophilia around him. | |||
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"It didn't take long. Just days after the acquittal of the Colston 4, a man is arrested for attacking, with a hammer, the statue of Prospero and Ariel at the BBC. This statue, created by the paedophilie Eric Gill, has been the subject of much controversy, and it now remains to see what happens legally. Eric Gill, the man who sexually abused his daughters, sisters and dogs?? Thats the one. And Ghandi has had some suspicions of paedophilia around him." Did he? You better get to London with your hammer then  | |||
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"It didn't take long. Just days after the acquittal of the Colston 4, a man is arrested for attacking, with a hammer, the statue of Prospero and Ariel at the BBC. This statue, created by the paedophilie Eric Gill, has been the subject of much controversy, and it now remains to see what happens legally. Eric Gill, the man who sexually abused his daughters, sisters and dogs?? Thats the one. And Ghandi has had some suspicions of paedophilia around him." It doesn't surprise me that the BBC has so far done nothing about the Gill statue - paedophilia does seem to be a popular hobby for many of their former employees. Ghandi was also, allegedly, very racist - here's an interesting article:- https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-34265882 It begs the question though - how much good does a person have to do to negate the bad, or vice versa? | |||
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"It didn't take long. Just days after the acquittal of the Colston 4, a man is arrested for attacking, with a hammer, the statue of Prospero and Ariel at the BBC. This statue, created by the paedophilie Eric Gill, has been the subject of much controversy, and it now remains to see what happens legally. Eric Gill, the man who sexually abused his daughters, sisters and dogs?? Thats the one. And Ghandi has had some suspicions of paedophilia around him. It doesn't surprise me that the BBC has so far done nothing about the Gill statue - paedophilia does seem to be a popular hobby for many of their former employees. Ghandi was also, allegedly, very racist - here's an interesting article:- https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-34265882 It begs the question though - how much good does a person have to do to negate the bad, or vice versa? " And what do you expect the bbc to do exactly?  | |||
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"It didn't take long. Just days after the acquittal of the Colston 4, a man is arrested for attacking, with a hammer, the statue of Prospero and Ariel at the BBC. This statue, created by the paedophilie Eric Gill, has been the subject of much controversy, and it now remains to see what happens legally. Eric Gill, the man who sexually abused his daughters, sisters and dogs?? Thats the one. And Ghandi has had some suspicions of paedophilia around him. It doesn't surprise me that the BBC has so far done nothing about the Gill statue - paedophilia does seem to be a popular hobby for many of their former employees. Ghandi was also, allegedly, very racist - here's an interesting article:- https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-34265882 It begs the question though - how much good does a person have to do to negate the bad, or vice versa? And what do you expect the bbc to do exactly? "About the statue? This may be a difficult solution to understand without an eye-rolling emoticon, but - remove it? There now, that wasn't a difficult solution, was it? Unless, of course, you think glorifying pedos by prominently displaying their work is a good thing? If so, please explain why you would think that. | |||
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"It didn't take long. Just days after the acquittal of the Colston 4, a man is arrested for attacking, with a hammer, the statue of Prospero and Ariel at the BBC. This statue, created by the paedophilie Eric Gill, has been the subject of much controversy, and it now remains to see what happens legally. " Any idea if he was against the statues themselves or the fact that they were created by a paedophile? | |||
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"It didn't take long. Just days after the acquittal of the Colston 4, a man is arrested for attacking, with a hammer, the statue of Prospero and Ariel at the BBC. This statue, created by the paedophilie Eric Gill, has been the subject of much controversy, and it now remains to see what happens legally. Any idea if he was against the statues themselves or the fact that they were created by a paedophile? " Did he decide to attack the statue because the colston 4 were acquitted ? | |||
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"It didn't take long. Just days after the acquittal of the Colston 4, a man is arrested for attacking, with a hammer, the statue of Prospero and Ariel at the BBC. This statue, created by the paedophilie Eric Gill, has been the subject of much controversy, and it now remains to see what happens legally. Any idea if he was against the statues themselves or the fact that they were created by a paedophile? Did he decide to attack the statue because the colston 4 were acquitted ? "I don't know his motives for his action. Was just wondering if it's the statue that he is against or the history of its creator | |||
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"It didn't take long. Just days after the acquittal of the Colston 4, a man is arrested for attacking, with a hammer, the statue of Prospero and Ariel at the BBC. This statue, created by the paedophilie Eric Gill, has been the subject of much controversy, and it now remains to see what happens legally. Any idea if he was against the statues themselves or the fact that they were created by a paedophile? Did he decide to attack the statue because the colston 4 were acquitted ?
I don't know his motives for his action. Was just wondering if it's the statue that he is against or the history of its creator"It was against the creator of the statue. The news coverage is very clear about that. | |||
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"It didn't take long. Just days after the acquittal of the Colston 4, a man is arrested for attacking, with a hammer, the statue of Prospero and Ariel at the BBC. This statue, created by the paedophilie Eric Gill, has been the subject of much controversy, and it now remains to see what happens legally. Any idea if he was against the statues themselves or the fact that they were created by a paedophile? Did he decide to attack the statue because the colston 4 were acquitted ?
I don't know his motives for his action. Was just wondering if it's the statue that he is against or the history of its creator"Actually scrub that question. Just read he is reported as shouting paedophile when attacking it | |||
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"It didn't take long. Just days after the acquittal of the Colston 4, a man is arrested for attacking, with a hammer, the statue of Prospero and Ariel at the BBC. This statue, created by the paedophilie Eric Gill, has been the subject of much controversy, and it now remains to see what happens legally. Any idea if he was against the statues themselves or the fact that they were created by a paedophile? Did he decide to attack the statue because the colston 4 were acquitted ?
I don't know his motives for his action. Was just wondering if it's the statue that he is against or the history of its creator
It was against the creator of the statue. The news coverage is very clear about that. "Yes thanks, just seen it Wonder what will happen to him | |||
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"I think that it's more important to realise that the portrayal of naked children and their genitalia is something that should not have happened even back in 1930 when the statue was installed. Much less so in 2020. " Better burn down and bulldoze nearly every museum and art gallery in the world then. Or is there a specific date when it becomes acceptable to you? Greeks and Romans are ok, but don't go showing any of that Titian nonsense! | |||
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"First along with I hope everyone on here I find Eric Gills sexual preferences appalling. But if we really want to get shut of Gills work we are in for some difficulties He was the designer/sculptor of a fair number of First war memorials including some that are listed. The real big one is Gill was one of the most prolific designer of type faces of 20th century. Gill sans Perpetua & Joanna to name just 3 incredibly widely used. Any one for burning books ?" I agree with you regarding the war memorials because of what they represent. This statue depicts an adult male closely pressed up against a naked male child, and it's on the front of a the headquarters of the BBC, the corporation who enabled what would have the UK's most prolific child sex-offender in history, if he was tried during his lifetime. The BBC are still paying out compensation to his victims. I believe it should be removed, and if it can't be - then re-sculpted or covered. It may have been acceptable in its day, but not now. | |||
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"It didn't take long. Just days after the acquittal of the Colston 4, a man is arrested for attacking, with a hammer, the statue of Prospero and Ariel at the BBC. This statue, created by the paedophilie Eric Gill, has been the subject of much controversy, and it now remains to see what happens legally. Eric Gill, the man who sexually abused his daughters, sisters and dogs?? Thats the one. And Ghandi has had some suspicions of paedophilia around him." And racism. | |||
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"It didn't take long. Just days after the acquittal of the Colston 4, a man is arrested for attacking, with a hammer, the statue of Prospero and Ariel at the BBC. This statue, created by the paedophilie Eric Gill, has been the subject of much controversy, and it now remains to see what happens legally. Eric Gill, the man who sexually abused his daughters, sisters and dogs?? Thats the one. And Ghandi has had some suspicions of paedophilia around him. It doesn't surprise me that the BBC has so far done nothing about the Gill statue - paedophilia does seem to be a popular hobby for many of their former employees. Ghandi was also, allegedly, very racist - here's an interesting article:- https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-34265882 It begs the question though - how much good does a person have to do to negate the bad, or vice versa? And what do you expect the bbc to do exactly?
About the statue? This may be a difficult solution to understand without an eye-rolling emoticon, but - remove it? There now, that wasn't a difficult solution, was it? Unless, of course, you think glorifying pedos by prominently displaying their work is a good thing? If so, please explain why you would think that."I dont really have any thoughts on it to be honest it's just a statue thats stuck on a building that people may notice for it's art nothing more | |||
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" It begs the question though - how much good does a person have to do to negate the bad, or vice versa? " The disgraced Duke of York is struggling with this question as well. | |||
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"It didn't take long. Just days after the acquittal of the Colston 4, a man is arrested for attacking, with a hammer, the statue of Prospero and Ariel at the BBC. This statue, created by the paedophilie Eric Gill, has been the subject of much controversy, and it now remains to see what happens legally. " It didn't take long for what? Did this happen as a consequence of the Colston 4 verdict? Should we change the law or not have jury trials as a consequence? Has there been an ongoing campaign to remove this statue? | |||
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"It didn't take long. Just days after the acquittal of the Colston 4, a man is arrested for attacking, with a hammer, the statue of Prospero and Ariel at the BBC. This statue, created by the paedophilie Eric Gill, has been the subject of much controversy, and it now remains to see what happens legally. Eric Gill, the man who sexually abused his daughters, sisters and dogs?? Thats the one. And Ghandi has had some suspicions of paedophilia around him. And racism." Winston Churchill has more demonstrable accusations of racism levelled against him. There is probably a point in there somewhere of making vague accusations, but I don't know what it might be. Do you? | |||
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"It didn't take long. Just days after the acquittal of the Colston 4, a man is arrested for attacking, with a hammer, the statue of Prospero and Ariel at the BBC. This statue, created by the paedophilie Eric Gill, has been the subject of much controversy, and it now remains to see what happens legally. Eric Gill, the man who sexually abused his daughters, sisters and dogs?? Thats the one. And Ghandi has had some suspicions of paedophilia around him. And racism. Winston Churchill has more demonstrable accusations of racism levelled against him. There is probably a point in there somewhere of making vague accusations, but I don't know what it might be. Do you?" Yeah lets rip every statue in the country down burn all the history books and start again.
No one is squeeky clean in life i would guess even mother Teresa had some skeletons in the cupboard its human nature and someone is always going to take offence at something said or done. | |||
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"It didn't take long. Just days after the acquittal of the Colston 4, a man is arrested for attacking, with a hammer, the statue of Prospero and Ariel at the BBC. This statue, created by the paedophilie Eric Gill, has been the subject of much controversy, and it now remains to see what happens legally. Eric Gill, the man who sexually abused his daughters, sisters and dogs?? Thats the one. And Ghandi has had some suspicions of paedophilia around him. And racism. Winston Churchill has more demonstrable accusations of racism levelled against him. There is probably a point in there somewhere of making vague accusations, but I don't know what it might be. Do you?" So Gandhi's racism and paedophilia are OK in your book because, you know, it's Gandhi. | |||
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"It didn't take long. Just days after the acquittal of the Colston 4, a man is arrested for attacking, with a hammer, the statue of Prospero and Ariel at the BBC. This statue, created by the paedophilie Eric Gill, has been the subject of much controversy, and it now remains to see what happens legally. Eric Gill, the man who sexually abused his daughters, sisters and dogs?? Thats the one. And Ghandi has had some suspicions of paedophilia around him. And racism. Winston Churchill has more demonstrable accusations of racism levelled against him. There is probably a point in there somewhere of making vague accusations, but I don't know what it might be. Do you? So Gandhi's racism and paedophilia are OK in your book because, you know, it's Gandhi." Well, they are somewhat more tenuous than accusations against others and a long way from a conviction of a crime or a receipt for the sale of a human being. However, I'm not defending anyone. Nor condoning or condemning anyone. Have a good read. I'm saying that a vague accusation is just that and the verdict from a jury trial is the verdict from a jury trial. What point are you actually trying to make? | |||
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"It didn't take long. Just days after the acquittal of the Colston 4, a man is arrested for attacking, with a hammer, the statue of Prospero and Ariel at the BBC. This statue, created by the paedophilie Eric Gill, has been the subject of much controversy, and it now remains to see what happens legally. Eric Gill, the man who sexually abused his daughters, sisters and dogs?? Thats the one. And Ghandi has had some suspicions of paedophilia around him. And racism. Winston Churchill has more demonstrable accusations of racism levelled against him. There is probably a point in there somewhere of making vague accusations, but I don't know what it might be. Do you?Yeah lets rip every statue in the country down burn all the history books and start again.
No one is squeeky clean in life i would guess even mother Teresa had some skeletons in the cupboard its human nature and someone is always going to take offence at something said or done."I'm not defending anyone. Nor condoning or condemning anyone, am I? The verdict from a jury trial is the verdict from a jury trial. What would you like to change? | |||
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"No one is rejecting the idea that a jury trial is unfair. Its one of the cornerstones that this country was built on. What many said, was that the acquital of the Colston 4, would possibly embolden others to take direct action. The fact that the Gill statue has never been attacked before, lends weight to that argument but we will have to wait to see what defence the accused puts forward. " Just because the acquittal was correct in that instance, it doesn't mean that it will be again, nor that it will happen. Even if the legal defence uses the precedent, it doesn't mean that that played any part in this man's decision to attack the statue, does it. Currently, just speculation. | |||
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"It didn't take long. Just days after the acquittal of the Colston 4, a man is arrested for attacking, with a hammer, the statue of Prospero and Ariel at the BBC. This statue, created by the paedophilie Eric Gill, has been the subject of much controversy, and it now remains to see what happens legally. Eric Gill, the man who sexually abused his daughters, sisters and dogs?? Thats the one. And Ghandi has had some suspicions of paedophilia around him. And racism. Winston Churchill has more demonstrable accusations of racism levelled against him. There is probably a point in there somewhere of making vague accusations, but I don't know what it might be. Do you?Yeah lets rip every statue in the country down burn all the history books and start again.
No one is squeeky clean in life i would guess even mother Teresa had some skeletons in the cupboard its human nature and someone is always going to take offence at something said or done.""...even mother theresa had some skeletons. .." She had more than some and they have long ago been exposed. Mother theresa was a totally evil cunt | |||
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"It didn't take long. Just days after the acquittal of the Colston 4, a man is arrested for attacking, with a hammer, the statue of Prospero and Ariel at the BBC. This statue, created by the paedophilie Eric Gill, has been the subject of much controversy, and it now remains to see what happens legally. Eric Gill, the man who sexually abused his daughters, sisters and dogs?? Thats the one. And Ghandi has had some suspicions of paedophilia around him. And racism. Winston Churchill has more demonstrable accusations of racism levelled against him. There is probably a point in there somewhere of making vague accusations, but I don't know what it might be. Do you?Yeah lets rip every statue in the country down burn all the history books and start again.
No one is squeeky clean in life i would guess even mother Teresa had some skeletons in the cupboard its human nature and someone is always going to take offence at something said or done.
"...even mother theresa had some skeletons. .."
She had more than some and they have long ago been exposed.
Mother theresa was a totally evil cunt"totaly agree with you on that,watched a programe about her and some of the things that woman was responsible for are fucking horrific,unfortunatley most people think she was some kind old lady | |||
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"It didn't take long. Just days after the acquittal of the Colston 4, a man is arrested for attacking, with a hammer, the statue of Prospero and Ariel at the BBC. This statue, created by the paedophilie Eric Gill, has been the subject of much controversy, and it now remains to see what happens legally. Eric Gill, the man who sexually abused his daughters, sisters and dogs?? Thats the one. And Ghandi has had some suspicions of paedophilia around him. And racism. Winston Churchill has more demonstrable accusations of racism levelled against him. There is probably a point in there somewhere of making vague accusations, but I don't know what it might be. Do you?Yeah lets rip every statue in the country down burn all the history books and start again.
No one is squeeky clean in life i would guess even mother Teresa had some skeletons in the cupboard its human nature and someone is always going to take offence at something said or done.
"...even mother theresa had some skeletons. .."
She had more than some and they have long ago been exposed.
Mother theresa was a totally evil cunttotaly agree with you on that,watched a programe about her and some of the things that woman was responsible for are fucking horrific,unfortunatley most people think she was some kind old lady"You watched "a program" about her? So that's it? Must be true? What was the program? What did she do? Did any of her "victims" appear in the program? I doubt very much that she was blameless. Almost nobody is. How does this relate to the OP? Should no statues ever be built? Should none ever be removed? Should a jury's interpretation of criminal damage be accepted or should we change the law? | |||
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"It didn't take long. Just days after the acquittal of the Colston 4, a man is arrested for attacking, with a hammer, the statue of Prospero and Ariel at the BBC. This statue, created by the paedophilie Eric Gill, has been the subject of much controversy, and it now remains to see what happens legally. Eric Gill, the man who sexually abused his daughters, sisters and dogs?? Thats the one. And Ghandi has had some suspicions of paedophilia around him. And racism. Winston Churchill has more demonstrable accusations of racism levelled against him. There is probably a point in there somewhere of making vague accusations, but I don't know what it might be. Do you?Yeah lets rip every statue in the country down burn all the history books and start again.
No one is squeeky clean in life i would guess even mother Teresa had some skeletons in the cupboard its human nature and someone is always going to take offence at something said or done.
"...even mother theresa had some skeletons. .."
She had more than some and they have long ago been exposed.
Mother theresa was a totally evil cunt"'Evil' is quite strong. Can you explain or is it a vague accusation? Should all statues and references to her activities be changed to reflect this new "truth" based on the available "evidence" and "verdicts"? What's the threshold? | |||
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"It didn't take long. Just days after the acquittal of the Colston 4, a man is arrested for attacking, with a hammer, the statue of Prospero and Ariel at the BBC. This statue, created by the paedophilie Eric Gill, has been the subject of much controversy, and it now remains to see what happens legally. Any idea if he was against the statues themselves or the fact that they were created by a paedophile? " I don't know anything about any of his other work, but my opinion is that a statue showing a naked child being held by an adult, that was sculpted by a paedophile, is more than a little problematic. Did he actually use a child for the model? Was it perhaps a child that he had abused? I rather suspect that if this was a photograph of a naked child that had been taken by a paedophile, regardless of any level of supposed artistic merit, it certainly would not be adorning the frontage of the BBC! Instead anybody that put said photograph on display might well be looking at being picked up by the police. As for the question of typefaces designed by this man, there must be dozens of fonts that could be used instead for new publications and I would hope that reputable publishers would do that. Existing books - unless the font was actually named on the indicia I imagine that very few people would even recognise the typeface. There is a certain level of qualitative difference between the depiction of a naked child, and the design of a lettering style. It's perhaps not an ideal situation, but it would have to be a real weirdo to get their rocks off just over the font used in a book... | |||
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"Yeah lets rip every statue in the country down burn all the history books and start again.
No one is squeeky clean in life i would guess even mother Teresa had some skeletons in the cupboard its human nature and someone is always going to take offence at something said or done."Or we could remove such works to a Museum of 'Evolving Moral History'. | |||
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