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"I recently watched a documentary about the Bob Geldof inspired Live Aid event in 1985 and the subsequent Feed The World single that got to No.1 at Christmas. I was in my mid 20’s at this time and remember it well. I was really struck with how the artists and indeed the people of this country and other countries came together to help others less fortunate. I wonder if such a phenomena would happen today in a U.K. and a USA that appears polarised between right-wing selfish attitudes and a so-called woke left who still want to maintain a caring society. Odd really that the 1980’s was the decade of “loads a money” and “greed is good”, yet millions upon millions supported and gave to a cause to help poor and ravaged people in Africa." May have the numbers wrong, but I think in today's money it raise $320m. Impressive. But 2019 CiN raised almost £50m ($70m) so I reckon a more worldwide attempt would do equally as well. | |||
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"I recently watched a documentary about the Bob Geldof inspired Live Aid event in 1985 and the subsequent Feed The World single that got to No.1 at Christmas. I was in my mid 20’s at this time and remember it well. I was really struck with how the artists and indeed the people of this country and other countries came together to help others less fortunate. I wonder if such a phenomena would happen today in a U.K. and a USA that appears polarised between right-wing selfish attitudes and a so-called woke left who still want to maintain a caring society. Odd really that the 1980’s was the decade of “loads a money” and “greed is good”, yet millions upon millions supported and gave to a cause to help poor and ravaged people in Africa." why wouldn’t it happen today ? Are the artists of today woke or right wing charity concerts happen all the time Manchester comes to mind | |||
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"I get the OPs question. Most decent people would help but many and some on here want to cut aid budgets so maybe there is a shift in the fact people are becoming more selfish and more divided in attitudes. Artists may all say yes but may also be begrudging in saying yes. They and their managers saying no could destroy their image in two days of negative social media. " Also I never recall hearing… “We should be helping ‘our’ own first” back in the 1980’s. Every time there is talk of helping starving people, increasing the aid budget or just showing some compassion to refugees all we hear these days all over social media is the mantra about helping our own first. | |||
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"I get the OPs question. Most decent people would help but many and some on here want to cut aid budgets so maybe there is a shift in the fact people are becoming more selfish and more divided in attitudes. Artists may all say yes but may also be begrudging in saying yes. They and their managers saying no could destroy their image in two days of negative social media. Also I never recall hearing… “We should be helping ‘our’ own first” back in the 1980’s. Every time there is talk of helping starving people, increasing the aid budget or just showing some compassion to refugees all we hear these days all over social media is the mantra about helping our own first." so should we not help are own homeless or struggling first I'd be happy to stop all aid till we have no homeless that want help no struggling family's pay are debt off the and only then should we help others I don't see it as selfish more help those that live here but that's just me. | |||
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"I get the OPs question. Most decent people would help but many and some on here want to cut aid budgets so maybe there is a shift in the fact people are becoming more selfish and more divided in attitudes. Artists may all say yes but may also be begrudging in saying yes. They and their managers saying no could destroy their image in two days of negative social media. Also I never recall hearing… “We should be helping ‘our’ own first” back in the 1980’s. Every time there is talk of helping starving people, increasing the aid budget or just showing some compassion to refugees all we hear these days all over social media is the mantra about helping our own first.so should we not help are own homeless or struggling first I'd be happy to stop all aid till we have no homeless that want help no struggling family's pay are debt off the and only then should we help others I don't see it as selfish more help those that live here but that's just me." We should help our homeless and we do but the government keeps cutting budgets for councils and then when council tax goes up next year the government will avoid blame. We wasted billions on PPE paying £3.5 a mask on some suppliers and recently many billions more handing out Covid loans which many billions may be fraudulent. We give £30B plus to tax avoiding rich people each year. It not foreign aid that’s at fault and causing budget cuts for the homeless it’s our own governments incompetence, It’s how our money is spent which when you read the detail is lost in an obscene list of uncontrolled waste. | |||
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"I get the OPs question. Most decent people would help but many and some on here want to cut aid budgets so maybe there is a shift in the fact people are becoming more selfish and more divided in attitudes. Artists may all say yes but may also be begrudging in saying yes. They and their managers saying no could destroy their image in two days of negative social media. Also I never recall hearing… “We should be helping ‘our’ own first” back in the 1980’s. Every time there is talk of helping starving people, increasing the aid budget or just showing some compassion to refugees all we hear these days all over social media is the mantra about helping our own first.so should we not help are own homeless or struggling first I'd be happy to stop all aid till we have no homeless that want help no struggling family's pay are debt off the and only then should we help others I don't see it as selfish more help those that live here but that's just me. We should help our homeless and we do but the government keeps cutting budgets for councils and then when council tax goes up next year the government will avoid blame. We wasted billions on PPE paying £3.5 a mask on some suppliers and recently many billions more handing out Covid loans which many billions may be fraudulent. We give £30B plus to tax avoiding rich people each year. It not foreign aid that’s at fault and causing budget cuts for the homeless it’s our own governments incompetence, It’s how our money is spent which when you read the detail is lost in an obscene list of uncontrolled waste. " totally agree labour and cons no different there one reason so much divide both party's understand that. | |||
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"I get the OPs question. Most decent people would help but many and some on here want to cut aid budgets so maybe there is a shift in the fact people are becoming more selfish and more divided in attitudes. Artists may all say yes but may also be begrudging in saying yes. They and their managers saying no could destroy their image in two days of negative social media. Also I never recall hearing… “We should be helping ‘our’ own first” back in the 1980’s. Every time there is talk of helping starving people, increasing the aid budget or just showing some compassion to refugees all we hear these days all over social media is the mantra about helping our own first.so should we not help are own homeless or struggling first I'd be happy to stop all aid till we have no homeless that want help no struggling family's pay are debt off the and only then should we help others I don't see it as selfish more help those that live here but that's just me. We should help our homeless and we do but the government keeps cutting budgets for councils and then when council tax goes up next year the government will avoid blame. We wasted billions on PPE paying £3.5 a mask on some suppliers and recently many billions more handing out Covid loans which many billions may be fraudulent. We give £30B plus to tax avoiding rich people each year. It not foreign aid that’s at fault and causing budget cuts for the homeless it’s our own governments incompetence, It’s how our money is spent which when you read the detail is lost in an obscene list of uncontrolled waste. totally agree labour and cons no different there one reason so much divide both party's understand that." Tony Blair and Gordon Brown had all but eliminated homelessness by 2009. It has risen year on year since 2010. It is not correct to say that Labour and Conservative are the same in that respect. Had Jeremy Corbyn been elected PM in 2019 it is reasonable to assume that there would be a lot less homeless people today. | |||
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"I get the OPs question. Most decent people would help but many and some on here want to cut aid budgets so maybe there is a shift in the fact people are becoming more selfish and more divided in attitudes. Artists may all say yes but may also be begrudging in saying yes. They and their managers saying no could destroy their image in two days of negative social media. Also I never recall hearing… “We should be helping ‘our’ own first” back in the 1980’s. Every time there is talk of helping starving people, increasing the aid budget or just showing some compassion to refugees all we hear these days all over social media is the mantra about helping our own first." and what is so wrong with helping our own ? Do you give more money to charity than your own family no you don’t it’s natural to put your own first | |||
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"I get the OPs question. Most decent people would help but many and some on here want to cut aid budgets so maybe there is a shift in the fact people are becoming more selfish and more divided in attitudes. Artists may all say yes but may also be begrudging in saying yes. They and their managers saying no could destroy their image in two days of negative social media. Also I never recall hearing… “We should be helping ‘our’ own first” back in the 1980’s. Every time there is talk of helping starving people, increasing the aid budget or just showing some compassion to refugees all we hear these days all over social media is the mantra about helping our own first.and what is so wrong with helping our own ? Do you give more money to charity than your own family no you don’t it’s natural to put your own first " We give tens of billions to rich people every year . Why not take that back then homeless and aid sorted . It because the Tories line the pockets of their rich backers. But still people vote for them as they believe because they have a detached house and two cars they are Tories . Wake up you’re not you’re just paying for the tax breaks of the rich. I’m not a leftie but I know how mislead many people are. We need to be more equal and fair in our society. | |||
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"I get the OPs question. Most decent people would help but many and some on here want to cut aid budgets so maybe there is a shift in the fact people are becoming more selfish and more divided in attitudes. Artists may all say yes but may also be begrudging in saying yes. They and their managers saying no could destroy their image in two days of negative social media. Also I never recall hearing… “We should be helping ‘our’ own first” back in the 1980’s. Every time there is talk of helping starving people, increasing the aid budget or just showing some compassion to refugees all we hear these days all over social media is the mantra about helping our own first.and what is so wrong with helping our own ? Do you give more money to charity than your own family no you don’t it’s natural to put your own first We give tens of billions to rich people every year . Why not take that back then homeless and aid sorted . It because the Tories line the pockets of their rich backers. But still people vote for them as they believe because they have a detached house and two cars they are Tories . Wake up you’re not you’re just paying for the tax breaks of the rich. I’m not a leftie but I know how mislead many people are. We need to be more equal and fair in our society. " What’s all that got to do with Live Aid? | |||
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"I get the OPs question. Most decent people would help but many and some on here want to cut aid budgets so maybe there is a shift in the fact people are becoming more selfish and more divided in attitudes. Artists may all say yes but may also be begrudging in saying yes. They and their managers saying no could destroy their image in two days of negative social media. Also I never recall hearing… “We should be helping ‘our’ own first” back in the 1980’s. Every time there is talk of helping starving people, increasing the aid budget or just showing some compassion to refugees all we hear these days all over social media is the mantra about helping our own first.and what is so wrong with helping our own ? Do you give more money to charity than your own family no you don’t it’s natural to put your own first We give tens of billions to rich people every year . Why not take that back then homeless and aid sorted . It because the Tories line the pockets of their rich backers. But still people vote for them as they believe because they have a detached house and two cars they are Tories . Wake up you’re not you’re just paying for the tax breaks of the rich. I’m not a leftie but I know how mislead many people are. We need to be more equal and fair in our society. What’s all that got to do with Live Aid? " 
If we shared the wealth and gave aid we wouldn’t need live aid .
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"I get the OPs question. Most decent people would help but many and some on here want to cut aid budgets so maybe there is a shift in the fact people are becoming more selfish and more divided in attitudes. Artists may all say yes but may also be begrudging in saying yes. They and their managers saying no could destroy their image in two days of negative social media. Also I never recall hearing… “We should be helping ‘our’ own first” back in the 1980’s. Every time there is talk of helping starving people, increasing the aid budget or just showing some compassion to refugees all we hear these days all over social media is the mantra about helping our own first.and what is so wrong with helping our own ? Do you give more money to charity than your own family no you don’t it’s natural to put your own first We give tens of billions to rich people every year . Why not take that back then homeless and aid sorted . It because the Tories line the pockets of their rich backers. But still people vote for them as they believe because they have a detached house and two cars they are Tories . Wake up you’re not you’re just paying for the tax breaks of the rich. I’m not a leftie but I know how mislead many people are. We need to be more equal and fair in our society. " Don't hate the wealth dude, cuz subconsciously your brain will not let you become what you hate it is a deep early defence mechanism. | |||
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"I get the OPs question. Most decent people would help but many and some on here want to cut aid budgets so maybe there is a shift in the fact people are becoming more selfish and more divided in attitudes. Artists may all say yes but may also be begrudging in saying yes. They and their managers saying no could destroy their image in two days of negative social media. Also I never recall hearing… “We should be helping ‘our’ own first” back in the 1980’s. Every time there is talk of helping starving people, increasing the aid budget or just showing some compassion to refugees all we hear these days all over social media is the mantra about helping our own first.and what is so wrong with helping our own ? Do you give more money to charity than your own family no you don’t it’s natural to put your own first We give tens of billions to rich people every year . Why not take that back then homeless and aid sorted . It because the Tories line the pockets of their rich backers. But still people vote for them as they believe because they have a detached house and two cars they are Tories . Wake up you’re not you’re just paying for the tax breaks of the rich. I’m not a leftie but I know how mislead many people are. We need to be more equal and fair in our society. Don't hate the wealth dude, cuz subconsciously your brain will not let you become what you hate it is a deep early defence mechanism." Way off the mark mate, I’m one of those who has offshore routes available to me as I’ve done very well financially. It’s also why I can see how much is given to the already wealthy. That money could easily provide more social housing and result in less homelessness. For the record I don’t and have not used the offshores routes. Only avoidance was dividends for a couple of years and I stopped that as it was trivia I preferred to invest. | |||
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"I get the OPs question. Most decent people would help but many and some on here want to cut aid budgets so maybe there is a shift in the fact people are becoming more selfish and more divided in attitudes. Artists may all say yes but may also be begrudging in saying yes. They and their managers saying no could destroy their image in two days of negative social media. Also I never recall hearing… “We should be helping ‘our’ own first” back in the 1980’s. Every time there is talk of helping starving people, increasing the aid budget or just showing some compassion to refugees all we hear these days all over social media is the mantra about helping our own first.and what is so wrong with helping our own ? Do you give more money to charity than your own family no you don’t it’s natural to put your own first We give tens of billions to rich people every year . Why not take that back then homeless and aid sorted . It because the Tories line the pockets of their rich backers. But still people vote for them as they believe because they have a detached house and two cars they are Tories . Wake up you’re not you’re just paying for the tax breaks of the rich. I’m not a leftie but I know how mislead many people are. We need to be more equal and fair in our society. Don't hate the wealth dude, cuz subconsciously your brain will not let you become what you hate it is a deep early defence mechanism. Way off the mark mate, I’m one of those who has offshore routes available to me as I’ve done very well financially. It’s also why I can see how much is given to the already wealthy. That money could easily provide more social housing and result in less homelessness. For the record I don’t and have not used the offshores routes. Only avoidance was dividends for a couple of years and I stopped that as it was trivia I preferred to invest." who doesn’t want the rich to pay there way we all do like you said we give billions and billions we are one of most genorous countries on the planet yet people still moan and say we should do more yet give European countries a free pass any excuse to kick your own it’s the fashion now | |||
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"I get the OPs question. Most decent people would help but many and some on here want to cut aid budgets so maybe there is a shift in the fact people are becoming more selfish and more divided in attitudes. Artists may all say yes but may also be begrudging in saying yes. They and their managers saying no could destroy their image in two days of negative social media. Also I never recall hearing… “We should be helping ‘our’ own first” back in the 1980’s. Every time there is talk of helping starving people, increasing the aid budget or just showing some compassion to refugees all we hear these days all over social media is the mantra about helping our own first.and what is so wrong with helping our own ? Do you give more money to charity than your own family no you don’t it’s natural to put your own first We give tens of billions to rich people every year . Why not take that back then homeless and aid sorted . It because the Tories line the pockets of their rich backers. But still people vote for them as they believe because they have a detached house and two cars they are Tories . Wake up you’re not you’re just paying for the tax breaks of the rich. I’m not a leftie but I know how mislead many people are. We need to be more equal and fair in our society. Don't hate the wealth dude, cuz subconsciously your brain will not let you become what you hate it is a deep early defence mechanism. Way off the mark mate, I’m one of those who has offshore routes available to me as I’ve done very well financially. It’s also why I can see how much is given to the already wealthy. That money could easily provide more social housing and result in less homelessness. For the record I don’t and have not used the offshores routes. Only avoidance was dividends for a couple of years and I stopped that as it was trivia I preferred to invest.who doesn’t want the rich to pay there way we all do like you said we give billions and billions we are one of most genorous countries on the planet yet people still moan and say we should do more yet give European countries a free pass any excuse to kick your own it’s the fashion now " Hi Foxy The government are always saying look over there . Both labour and Tory but Tory more lately. I agree we are a generous country but without taking any money off the average worker in this country we could raise hundreds of billions over the years. Everyone should pay their share to live here. Rothermere lives in the U.K. and uses our roads and I’m sure he’ll want the fire brigade to turn up if needed or an ambulance. He claims non domicile as his grandmother was French. He says the nail group paid millions in tax . Yes they did the PAYE and NI of staff not the real tax on profits as it paid across to the Caribbean trust which he’s guardian / controller / beneficiary of. I don’t want him or anyone else to pay high tax just the same as a guy on a high wage. Not more just the same. Last point if we paid for aid in Syria rather than bombing the shit out of it the refugees might not have all left. Afghanistan we failed the people but not sure there was a workable plan due to endemic corruption. Iraq we failed the people there as definitely no plan. Do B a society that functioned was destroyed by us. Libya again bombs rather than aid. It’s a failed foreign policy that’s led to all the refugees. We only have ourselves to blame . | |||
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"I get the OPs question. Most decent people would help but many and some on here want to cut aid budgets so maybe there is a shift in the fact people are becoming more selfish and more divided in attitudes. Artists may all say yes but may also be begrudging in saying yes. They and their managers saying no could destroy their image in two days of negative social media. Also I never recall hearing… “We should be helping ‘our’ own first” back in the 1980’s. Every time there is talk of helping starving people, increasing the aid budget or just showing some compassion to refugees all we hear these days all over social media is the mantra about helping our own first.and what is so wrong with helping our own ? Do you give more money to charity than your own family no you don’t it’s natural to put your own first We give tens of billions to rich people every year . Why not take that back then homeless and aid sorted . It because the Tories line the pockets of their rich backers. But still people vote for them as they believe because they have a detached house and two cars they are Tories . Wake up you’re not you’re just paying for the tax breaks of the rich. I’m not a leftie but I know how mislead many people are. We need to be more equal and fair in our society. Don't hate the wealth dude, cuz subconsciously your brain will not let you become what you hate it is a deep early defence mechanism. Way off the mark mate, I’m one of those who has offshore routes available to me as I’ve done very well financially. It’s also why I can see how much is given to the already wealthy. That money could easily provide more social housing and result in less homelessness. For the record I don’t and have not used the offshores routes. Only avoidance was dividends for a couple of years and I stopped that as it was trivia I preferred to invest.who doesn’t want the rich to pay there way we all do like you said we give billions and billions we are one of most genorous countries on the planet yet people still moan and say we should do more yet give European countries a free pass any excuse to kick your own it’s the fashion now Hi Foxy The government are always saying look over there . Both labour and Tory but Tory more lately. I agree we are a generous country but without taking any money off the average worker in this country we could raise hundreds of billions over the years. Everyone should pay their share to live here. Rothermere lives in the U.K. and uses our roads and I’m sure he’ll want the fire brigade to turn up if needed or an ambulance. He claims non domicile as his grandmother was French. He says the nail group paid millions in tax . Yes they did the PAYE and NI of staff not the real tax on profits as it paid across to the Caribbean trust which he’s guardian / controller / beneficiary of. I don’t want him or anyone else to pay high tax just the same as a guy on a high wage. Not more just the same. Last point if we paid for aid in Syria rather than bombing the shit out of it the refugees might not have all left. Afghanistan we failed the people but not sure there was a workable plan due to endemic corruption. Iraq we failed the people there as definitely no plan. Do B a society that functioned was destroyed by us. Libya again bombs rather than aid. It’s a failed foreign policy that’s led to all the refugees. We only have ourselves to blame . " I agree mate it’s just wrong how they get away with it Branson is no better tho it’s not just countries we have failed tho plenty more want to come here I agree we should keep our noses out in the future leave them to sort out there own mess | |||
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"I recently watched a documentary about the Bob Geldof inspired Live Aid event in 1985 and the subsequent Feed The World single that got to No.1 at Christmas. I was in my mid 20’s at this time and remember it well. I was really struck with how the artists and indeed the people of this country and other countries came together to help others less fortunate. I wonder if such a phenomena would happen today in a U.K. and a USA that appears polarised between right-wing selfish attitudes and a so-called woke left who still want to maintain a caring society. Odd really that the 1980’s was the decade of “loads a money” and “greed is good”, yet millions upon millions supported and gave to a cause to help poor and ravaged people in Africa." Elon musk is giving 7.5 billion to sort world hunger The UN came up with this number after ridiculing the words richest Open accounting he’s stated so everyone can see where the moneys gone & not gone into the pockets of top bosses of charity’s pockets | |||
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"Also to add. There is alot of wealth knocking around the left field judging by the amount of German cars being driven around by alot Black and Asian lads are they willing to donate to help their poor brothers and sisters abroad." Oh dear !!! | |||
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"Also to add. There is alot of wealth knocking around the left field judging by the amount of German cars being driven around by alot Black and Asian lads are they willing to donate to help their poor brothers and sisters abroad." I hope you feel sick in the stomach when you wake up tomorrow and read again what you have written. | |||
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"I get the OPs question. Most decent people would help but many and some on here want to cut aid budgets so maybe there is a shift in the fact people are becoming more selfish and more divided in attitudes. Artists may all say yes but may also be begrudging in saying yes. They and their managers saying no could destroy their image in two days of negative social media. Also I never recall hearing… “We should be helping ‘our’ own first” back in the 1980’s. Every time there is talk of helping starving people, increasing the aid budget or just showing some compassion to refugees all we hear these days all over social media is the mantra about helping our own first." usualy spoken by the ones who want to do the least to help our own | |||
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"To start a thread to basically have a pop at the people of the U.K. who give more than most other countries on the planet I don’t think the op thought this through lol" #easilyconfused.com ? | |||
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"Feed the world actually did more harm than good. We gave lots of money and goods that eventually was used to continue the war. More people died in the ensuing war than would have died from famine. I'm not one of the 'help our own' people but there is a documentary called ' the problem with aid' I think and unless it is thought out and planned really well then it can make things worse. This was rushed and made things worse sadly. " So what is the solution? Let the fuckers starve? | |||
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"Feed the world actually did more harm than good. We gave lots of money and goods that eventually was used to continue the war. More people died in the ensuing war than would have died from famine. I'm not one of the 'help our own' people but there is a documentary called ' the problem with aid' I think and unless it is thought out and planned really well then it can make things worse. This was rushed and made things worse sadly. So what is the solution? Let the fuckers starve?" There is no solution | |||
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"Feed the world actually did more harm than good. We gave lots of money and goods that eventually was used to continue the war. More people died in the ensuing war than would have died from famine. I'm not one of the 'help our own' people but there is a documentary called ' the problem with aid' I think and unless it is thought out and planned really well then it can make things worse. This was rushed and made things worse sadly. So what is the solution? Let the fuckers starve?" It actually forces people there to deal with the issue. Or for the usual democratic and aid channels to be utilised. So you put diplomatic pressure on the country rather than just doing 'something'. | |||
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"There was a film on from Madagascar the other week. Filmed in the middle of a famine, it centred on a woman who couldn't feed her six children! It makes more sense to try and fit population size to the amount of food available. " I saw that about Madagascar. The BBC explained it as the first climate change induced famine. No mention that on an island the population has grown from six million to twenty six million! | |||
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