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By *or Fox Sake OP   Couple
over a year ago

Thornaby

Politics in that part of the world is, to say the least, different.

The DUP want to crash the Good Friday Agreement.

As a result they see brexit and the resultant chaos as an opportunity.

Mid Antrim council withdrew staff from ports saying as a result of threats to staff it wasn't safe.

The police said nothing had changed, no new threats (this was in octoner last year).

The police got further involved

"A police investigation into Mid and East Antrim Borough Council is linked to correspondence surrounding the controversial decision to withdraw staff operating the Northern Ireland Protocol back in February, BBC Northern Ireland Spotlight can reveal.

Sources have told Tuesday night's programme that attempts by council employees to delete a trail of correspondence to Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) politicians that was being sought through Freedom of Information requests are at the centre of the investigation."

It then got murkyier

"It later emerged that the council chief executive Anne Donaghy had written to the UK Cabinet Office, which oversees the operation of the protocol, two days before the decision to remove staff."

For yhe police to investigate a council is very very unusual

full article

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-59480141

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By *astcoast2000Man
over a year ago

Newcastle County Down

OP Did you ever think of a career with the BBC

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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24


"Politics in that part of the world is, to say the least, different.

The DUP want to crash the Good Friday Agreement.

As a result they see brexit and the resultant chaos as an opportunity.

Mid Antrim council withdrew staff from ports saying as a result of threats to staff it wasn't safe.

The police said nothing had changed, no new threats (this was in octoner last year).

The police got further involved

"A police investigation into Mid and East Antrim Borough Council is linked to correspondence surrounding the controversial decision to withdraw staff operating the Northern Ireland Protocol back in February, BBC Northern Ireland Spotlight can reveal.

Sources have told Tuesday night's programme that attempts by council employees to delete a trail of correspondence to Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) politicians that was being sought through Freedom of Information requests are at the centre of the investigation."

It then got murkyier

"It later emerged that the council chief executive Anne Donaghy had written to the UK Cabinet Office, which oversees the operation of the protocol, two days before the decision to remove staff."

For yhe police to investigate a council is very very unusual

full article

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-59480141"

And ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is a curious predicament. No longer Ireland, but not really British either. A relic from the past that’s pandered under a pretence. Never really seen the point of keeping NI in the Union other as it is a huge liability and adds nothing. Other than avoiding the huge carnage that would ensue from leaving them too it. Give it another generation or two and the demographics will

Make it much easier to hand it back to Ireland. Assuming they still want it by then!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im from Northern Ireland I I will be the first to say fuck our government,

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By *oolpinstripeMan
over a year ago

Kildare


"It is a curious predicament. No longer Ireland, but not really British either. A relic from the past that’s pandered under a pretence. Never really seen the point of keeping NI in the Union other as it is a huge liability and adds nothing. Other than avoiding the huge carnage that would ensue from leaving them too it. Give it another generation or two and the demographics will

Make it much easier to hand it back to Ireland. Assuming they still want it by then! "

We asked for it back 100 years ago, but pride and stubbornness got in the way... as far as myself and quite a few from ‘the south’ are concerned... yez can keep it, and it’s inherent insanity... we’ve enough problems of our own without adding a few million more...

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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24


"It is a curious predicament. No longer Ireland, but not really British either. A relic from the past that’s pandered under a pretence. Never really seen the point of keeping NI in the Union other as it is a huge liability and adds nothing. Other than avoiding the huge carnage that would ensue from leaving them too it. Give it another generation or two and the demographics will

Make it much easier to hand it back to Ireland. Assuming they still want it by then! "

Its not yours to hand back

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is a curious predicament. No longer Ireland, but not really British either. A relic from the past that’s pandered under a pretence. Never really seen the point of keeping NI in the Union other as it is a huge liability and adds nothing. Other than avoiding the huge carnage that would ensue from leaving them too it. Give it another generation or two and the demographics will

Make it much easier to hand it back to Ireland. Assuming they still want it by then!

Its not yours to hand back"

It was a figure of speech. Well aware there are two views on who owns it that will never agree!

But regardless of ownership history - It is certainly UK tax payers that fund it. Can “we” simply stop paying and not worry about handing anything leave it to whomever wants it? - that was the thrust of my point.

I’ve not seen much evidence that ROI really want it back. Too much of a liability. It is like playing pass the parcel with a box of broken glass!

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

'Merry Christmas'

If it wasn't for Democracy I would give NI back to the Irish in a Heartbeat.

Go figure.

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare

The people of ireland, north and south,will decide NIs future, not the british.

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

'Merry Christmas'


"The people of ireland, north and south,will decide NIs future, not the british."

Good luck with that one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The people of ireland, north and south,will decide NIs future, not the british."

I think there’s a subtle difference between respecting the right of self determination (i.e agreeing with your point) and having an opinion on the relative merits of continuing to fund NI from UK exchequer. Whilst of course there’s a moral duty not to cause havoc by withdrawing that financial support by ‘handing back NI’ the right of determination does not exclude the wish from Uk public that one day NI might leave and become someone else’s problem.

Unfortunately as it is effectively an economic basket case, then whilst UK might not enjoy the cost of maintenance, Dublin could scarcely afford it and self financing is a mathematical

Impossibility without massive economic change in the region.

Either way, never going to be an easy nut to crack.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

I thought certain para military groups in Ireland, have already torn up the Good Friday agreement.

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare


"I thought certain para military groups in Ireland, have already torn up the Good Friday agreement."

No paras or any group, including uk,can tear up the GFA, if they like it or not.

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