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"A Tory MP is blaming young male crime on a female Dr Who "It must be some sort of sick competition, who can say the most ridiculous thing each day, what a bunch of halfwits | |||
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"A Tory MP is blaming young male crime on a female Dr Who "His name's Nick Fletcher. And he's won the award for the dumbest thing said today by anything sentient. | |||
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"A Tory MP is blaming young male crime on a female Dr Who
His name's Nick Fletcher. And he's won the award for the dumbest thing said today by anything sentient."Point of order "Sentient?" | |||
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"It's serious actually. There are going to be a lot of young men going off the rails now they can't have the aspiration of growing up to be dimension and time travelling aliens." Thank god we've still got Peppa Pig world to aspire to. | |||
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"Devil's advocate: there is a lot of talk about positive role models... Assuming Dr Who is a positive role model, does that mean boys do have fewer role models nowadays? I'd imagine the argument is there are a disproportionate amount or male role models ... But a reduction may still feel negative to a young man " No, that's not playing devil's advocate that's just silly. A role model needs to be a real person that someone can look up to, admire and wish to emulate. His list was stupid: James Bond a misogynistic, cold blooded killer, Ghost Busters pretend scientists hunting CGI ghosts, Doctor Who (as said above) a time travelling alien. None of those really make a great role model. How about the England football team who many have been vilifying for their decency? | |||
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"It's serious actually. There are going to be a lot of young men going off the rails now they can't have the aspiration of growing up to be dimension and time travelling aliens." pmsl post of the day classsss | |||
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"Devil's advocate: there is a lot of talk about positive role models... Assuming Dr Who is a positive role model, does that mean boys do have fewer role models nowadays? I'd imagine the argument is there are a disproportionate amount or male role models ... But a reduction may still feel negative to a young man No, that's not playing devil's advocate that's just silly. A role model needs to be a real person that someone can look up to, admire and wish to emulate. His list was stupid: James Bond a misogynistic, cold blooded killer, Ghost Busters pretend scientists hunting CGI ghosts, Doctor Who (as said above) a time travelling alien. None of those really make a great role model. How about the England football team who many have been vilifying for their decency?" that's fair (and I agree). What I struggle with then is why is anyone looking to change 007 to anything other than a white male. (Dr who I can kinda get given he changes in the story). Likewise Ghostbusters. | |||
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"Devil's advocate: there is a lot of talk about positive role models... Assuming Dr Who is a positive role model, does that mean boys do have fewer role models nowadays? I'd imagine the argument is there are a disproportionate amount or male role models ... But a reduction may still feel negative to a young man No, that's not playing devil's advocate that's just silly. A role model needs to be a real person that someone can look up to, admire and wish to emulate. His list was stupid: James Bond a misogynistic, cold blooded killer, Ghost Busters pretend scientists hunting CGI ghosts, Doctor Who (as said above) a time travelling alien. None of those really make a great role model. How about the England football team who many have been vilifying for their decency?" I’d disagree with that, for some young boys growing up there are no “real” male roles readily available that they access easily. | |||
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"Devil's advocate: there is a lot of talk about positive role models... Assuming Dr Who is a positive role model, does that mean boys do have fewer role models nowadays? I'd imagine the argument is there are a disproportionate amount or male role models ... But a reduction may still feel negative to a young man No, that's not playing devil's advocate that's just silly. A role model needs to be a real person that someone can look up to, admire and wish to emulate. His list was stupid: James Bond a misogynistic, cold blooded killer, Ghost Busters pretend scientists hunting CGI ghosts, Doctor Who (as said above) a time travelling alien. None of those really make a great role model. How about the England football team who many have been vilifying for their decency?" Role models dont have to be real at all. | |||
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"Devil's advocate: there is a lot of talk about positive role models... Assuming Dr Who is a positive role model, does that mean boys do have fewer role models nowadays? I'd imagine the argument is there are a disproportionate amount or male role models ... But a reduction may still feel negative to a young man No, that's not playing devil's advocate that's just silly. A role model needs to be a real person that someone can look up to, admire and wish to emulate. His list was stupid: James Bond a misogynistic, cold blooded killer, Ghost Busters pretend scientists hunting CGI ghosts, Doctor Who (as said above) a time travelling alien. None of those really make a great role model. How about the England football team who many have been vilifying for their decency? Role models dont have to be real at all. " Name me a few ? | |||
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"Devil's advocate: there is a lot of talk about positive role models... Assuming Dr Who is a positive role model, does that mean boys do have fewer role models nowadays? I'd imagine the argument is there are a disproportionate amount or male role models ... But a reduction may still feel negative to a young man No, that's not playing devil's advocate that's just silly. A role model needs to be a real person that someone can look up to, admire and wish to emulate. His list was stupid: James Bond a misogynistic, cold blooded killer, Ghost Busters pretend scientists hunting CGI ghosts, Doctor Who (as said above) a time travelling alien. None of those really make a great role model. How about the England football team who many have been vilifying for their decency?that's fair (and I agree). What I struggle with then is why is anyone looking to change 007 to anything other than a white male. (Dr who I can kinda get given he changes in the story). Likewise Ghostbusters. " The next Bond is going to be a woman and the film with be called cocktopussy.  | |||
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"Devil's advocate: there is a lot of talk about positive role models... Assuming Dr Who is a positive role model, does that mean boys do have fewer role models nowadays? I'd imagine the argument is there are a disproportionate amount or male role models ... But a reduction may still feel negative to a young man No, that's not playing devil's advocate that's just silly. A role model needs to be a real person that someone can look up to, admire and wish to emulate. His list was stupid: James Bond a misogynistic, cold blooded killer, Ghost Busters pretend scientists hunting CGI ghosts, Doctor Who (as said above) a time travelling alien. None of those really make a great role model. How about the England football team who many have been vilifying for their decency?that's fair (and I agree). What I struggle with then is why is anyone looking to change 007 to anything other than a white male. (Dr who I can kinda get given he changes in the story). Likewise Ghostbusters. " Not sure, 007 is just a code name so I guess anyone can play the role | |||
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"Devil's advocate: there is a lot of talk about positive role models... Assuming Dr Who is a positive role model, does that mean boys do have fewer role models nowadays? I'd imagine the argument is there are a disproportionate amount or male role models ... But a reduction may still feel negative to a young man No, that's not playing devil's advocate that's just silly. A role model needs to be a real person that someone can look up to, admire and wish to emulate. His list was stupid: James Bond a misogynistic, cold blooded killer, Ghost Busters pretend scientists hunting CGI ghosts, Doctor Who (as said above) a time travelling alien. None of those really make a great role model. How about the England football team who many have been vilifying for their decency? Role models dont have to be real at all. Name me a few ?" Loads of fictional characters can be role models. It's about how they behave or there ideals. Harry Potter or Hermione for example could be seen as a role model for lots of young children | |||
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"Devil's advocate: there is a lot of talk about positive role models... Assuming Dr Who is a positive role model, does that mean boys do have fewer role models nowadays? I'd imagine the argument is there are a disproportionate amount or male role models ... But a reduction may still feel negative to a young man No, that's not playing devil's advocate that's just silly. A role model needs to be a real person that someone can look up to, admire and wish to emulate. His list was stupid: James Bond a misogynistic, cold blooded killer, Ghost Busters pretend scientists hunting CGI ghosts, Doctor Who (as said above) a time travelling alien. None of those really make a great role model. How about the England football team who many have been vilifying for their decency? Role models dont have to be real at all. Name me a few ? Loads of fictional characters can be role models. It's about how they behave or there ideals. Harry Potter or Hermione for example could be seen as a role model for lots of young children " Ok, is that it? | |||
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"Devil's advocate: there is a lot of talk about positive role models... Assuming Dr Who is a positive role model, does that mean boys do have fewer role models nowadays? I'd imagine the argument is there are a disproportionate amount or male role models ... But a reduction may still feel negative to a young man No, that's not playing devil's advocate that's just silly. A role model needs to be a real person that someone can look up to, admire and wish to emulate. His list was stupid: James Bond a misogynistic, cold blooded killer, Ghost Busters pretend scientists hunting CGI ghosts, Doctor Who (as said above) a time travelling alien. None of those really make a great role model. How about the England football team who many have been vilifying for their decency? Role models dont have to be real at all. Name me a few ? Loads of fictional characters can be role models. It's about how they behave or there ideals. Harry Potter or Hermione for example could be seen as a role model for lots of young children Ok, is that it? " Why does it matter? I'm right. Fictional characters can be role models to children. Could quite easily just list off characters from my childhood Why are you even arguing about it. Seems you just cant agree with people at any point if you think they differ politically to you It's a bit sad tbh | |||
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"Devil's advocate: there is a lot of talk about positive role models... Assuming Dr Who is a positive role model, does that mean boys do have fewer role models nowadays? I'd imagine the argument is there are a disproportionate amount or male role models ... But a reduction may still feel negative to a young man No, that's not playing devil's advocate that's just silly. A role model needs to be a real person that someone can look up to, admire and wish to emulate. His list was stupid: James Bond a misogynistic, cold blooded killer, Ghost Busters pretend scientists hunting CGI ghosts, Doctor Who (as said above) a time travelling alien. None of those really make a great role model. How about the England football team who many have been vilifying for their decency? Role models dont have to be real at all. Name me a few ? Loads of fictional characters can be role models. It's about how they behave or there ideals. Harry Potter or Hermione for example could be seen as a role model for lots of young children Ok, is that it? Why does it matter? I'm right. Fictional characters can be role models to children. Could quite easily just list off characters from my childhood Why are you even arguing about it. Seems you just cant agree with people at any point if you think they differ politically to you It's a bit sad tbh" Yes they can be, there is Harry Potter , I just don’t think a female doctor who has cause young men to commit crime | |||
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"Devil's advocate: there is a lot of talk about positive role models... Assuming Dr Who is a positive role model, does that mean boys do have fewer role models nowadays? I'd imagine the argument is there are a disproportionate amount or male role models ... But a reduction may still feel negative to a young man No, that's not playing devil's advocate that's just silly. A role model needs to be a real person that someone can look up to, admire and wish to emulate. His list was stupid: James Bond a misogynistic, cold blooded killer, Ghost Busters pretend scientists hunting CGI ghosts, Doctor Who (as said above) a time travelling alien. None of those really make a great role model. How about the England football team who many have been vilifying for their decency? Role models dont have to be real at all. Name me a few ? Loads of fictional characters can be role models. It's about how they behave or there ideals. Harry Potter or Hermione for example could be seen as a role model for lots of young children Ok, is that it? Why does it matter? I'm right. Fictional characters can be role models to children. Could quite easily just list off characters from my childhood Why are you even arguing about it. Seems you just cant agree with people at any point if you think they differ politically to you It's a bit sad tbh Yes they can be, there is Harry Potter , I just don’t think a female doctor who has cause young men to commit crime " I never said or argued that point. All I said is that fictional characters can be role models to children. Your too busy trying to get one over pretend adversaries instead of actually thinking about peoples points | |||
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"Devil's advocate: there is a lot of talk about positive role models... Assuming Dr Who is a positive role model, does that mean boys do have fewer role models nowadays? I'd imagine the argument is there are a disproportionate amount or male role models ... But a reduction may still feel negative to a young man No, that's not playing devil's advocate that's just silly. A role model needs to be a real person that someone can look up to, admire and wish to emulate. His list was stupid: James Bond a misogynistic, cold blooded killer, Ghost Busters pretend scientists hunting CGI ghosts, Doctor Who (as said above) a time travelling alien. None of those really make a great role model. How about the England football team who many have been vilifying for their decency? Role models dont have to be real at all. Name me a few ? Loads of fictional characters can be role models. It's about how they behave or there ideals. Harry Potter or Hermione for example could be seen as a role model for lots of young children Ok, is that it? Why does it matter? I'm right. Fictional characters can be role models to children. Could quite easily just list off characters from my childhood Why are you even arguing about it. Seems you just cant agree with people at any point if you think they differ politically to you It's a bit sad tbh Yes they can be, there is Harry Potter , I just don’t think a female doctor who has cause young men to commit crime I never said or argued that point. All I said is that fictional characters can be role models to children. Your too busy trying to get one over pretend adversaries instead of actually thinking about peoples points " The OP? Not sure why your being so touchy, I was agreeing with you | |||
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"Devil's advocate: there is a lot of talk about positive role models... Assuming Dr Who is a positive role model, does that mean boys do have fewer role models nowadays? I'd imagine the argument is there are a disproportionate amount or male role models ... But a reduction may still feel negative to a young man No, that's not playing devil's advocate that's just silly. A role model needs to be a real person that someone can look up to, admire and wish to emulate. His list was stupid: James Bond a misogynistic, cold blooded killer, Ghost Busters pretend scientists hunting CGI ghosts, Doctor Who (as said above) a time travelling alien. None of those really make a great role model. How about the England football team who many have been vilifying for their decency? Role models dont have to be real at all. Name me a few ? Loads of fictional characters can be role models. It's about how they behave or there ideals. Harry Potter or Hermione for example could be seen as a role model for lots of young children Ok, is that it? Why does it matter? I'm right. Fictional characters can be role models to children. Could quite easily just list off characters from my childhood Why are you even arguing about it. Seems you just cant agree with people at any point if you think they differ politically to you It's a bit sad tbh" So... Can't males have female role models? Good people are good people, what has their gender got to do with it? | |||
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"Devil's advocate: there is a lot of talk about positive role models... Assuming Dr Who is a positive role model, does that mean boys do have fewer role models nowadays? I'd imagine the argument is there are a disproportionate amount or male role models ... But a reduction may still feel negative to a young man No, that's not playing devil's advocate that's just silly. A role model needs to be a real person that someone can look up to, admire and wish to emulate. His list was stupid: James Bond a misogynistic, cold blooded killer, Ghost Busters pretend scientists hunting CGI ghosts, Doctor Who (as said above) a time travelling alien. None of those really make a great role model. How about the England football team who many have been vilifying for their decency? Role models dont have to be real at all. Name me a few ? Loads of fictional characters can be role models. It's about how they behave or there ideals. Harry Potter or Hermione for example could be seen as a role model for lots of young children Ok, is that it? Why does it matter? I'm right. Fictional characters can be role models to children. Could quite easily just list off characters from my childhood Why are you even arguing about it. Seems you just cant agree with people at any point if you think they differ politically to you It's a bit sad tbh So... Can't males have female role models? Good people are good people, what has their gender got to do with it? " No ofcourse they can. I never really argued that they couldnt be did i? All i said was kids can have role rodels from fiction or that fictional characters can be role models. I was originally replying to somone who said they couldnt be But i would argue that boys are naturally more likely look up to male role models and girls look up to female ones though. In general atleast | |||
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" I dont care what the gender of a role model is, if they are real or not. Most peeople may have multiple. Aslong as they act and behave in a way you deem virtuous." Interesting What virtues would you ascribe to the Tory front bench? | |||
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" I dont care what the gender of a role model is, if they are real or not. Most peeople may have multiple. Aslong as they act and behave in a way you deem virtuous. Interesting What virtues would you ascribe to the Tory front bench?" No modern politician in this country is a role model. they are all career politicians in it to pad their CV or their own self importance | |||
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" I dont care what the gender of a role model is, if they are real or not. Most peeople may have multiple. Aslong as they act and behave in a way you deem virtuous. Interesting What virtues would you ascribe to the Tory front bench?" Greed. Is greed a virtue? | |||
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"A Tory MP is blaming young male crime on a female Dr Who "Weirdly, women weren't turning to crime when Dr Who was a man. 007 was a black woman in the last film. She wasn't James Bond. The role is not the same as the person.  | |||
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