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"No decent individual wanted this but it was only a matter of time before this happened yet it seems unlikely to stop the desire to attempt the crossing. What's the solution. I happen to be sympathetic to the French opinion that the UK makes it too easy to obtain generous benefits. I'm sure those of a certain political view will disagree but..." Where did you get that “French opinion” from? France takes in 4 times as many asylum seekers as the U.K. does and Britain is way down on the league of countries that take in people seeking asylum. | |||
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"No decent individual wanted this but it was only a matter of time before this happened yet it seems unlikely to stop the desire to attempt the crossing. What's the solution. I happen to be sympathetic to the French opinion that the UK makes it too easy to obtain generous benefits. I'm sure those of a certain political view will disagree but... Where did you get that “French opinion” from? France takes in 4 times as many asylum seekers as the U.K. does and Britain is way down on the league of countries that take in people seeking asylum." The French i guess as it was them blaming the uk for having such generous benifits. Personally when i see videos of the French police standing on a beach watching them launch dinghy's i blame them for doing nothing. | |||
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"Its well known that France blames the UK benefits system for attracting migrants" Not by some it seems. | |||
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"Surely the French have a duty of care to stop people putting their lives at risk." where does personal choice stop and the state step in ? | |||
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"Surely the French have a duty of care to stop people putting their lives at risk. " I don't see any Police in Ipswich docks stopping people boarding boats. | |||
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"Surely the French have a duty of care to stop people putting their lives at risk. I don't see any Police in Ipswich docks stopping people boarding boats. " I think you might see the coastguard though if there were 50 people in a rubber dinghy made for 10. Also there are rules on seaworthiness when carrying passengers. | |||
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"If the UK had not shut down its borders this would never have happened. The UK takes far fewer migrants than most countries in Europe, and having shut down all safe routes, has forced asylum seekers to look for other ways to get there. This has opened the door to smugglers who take full advantage of this and yesterday we saw the outcome. Some say that the UK cannot take any more migrants so what is the answer, should other countries take even more given that they already take more than the UK? Others argue that it is the fault of the EU for opening up borders however, borders have been open for a long time and this crises has little to do with it. The migrant crisis is caused by people who leave their homes due to war. Most of the wars have been funded by the west. Those migrants that could be classed as economic migrants, would be filtered out by due process if there was a system in place to allow them to cross safely. Leaving the EU meant that the UK also no longer was part of the Dublin Treaty which has caused even more problems. This was highlighted by what was called Project Fear, yet ignored. This is a human tragedy and these people were sons, daughters, mothers, fathers, brothers and sisters. Shame on anyone who sees this as anything else." I agree, provide them with safe passage, | |||
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"Surely the French have a duty of care to stop people putting their lives at risk. I don't see any Police in Ipswich docks stopping people boarding boats. I think you might see the coastguard though if there were 50 people in a rubber dinghy made for 10. Also there are rules on seaworthiness when carrying passengers. " "Might" being the operative word, They can't be everywhere. It is impossible to police, therefore we have to assume unless an alternative is provided, this will continue. As the majority of asylum seekers are actually granted asylum once they get here, maybe we should simply give them safe passage. | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing." Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? " Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? " Sank | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Sank " So would you just stand by and watch someone put a child in mortal danger and do nothing? | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then?" When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere " Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.  | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue. "Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous "Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now.  | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now. "Pardon? You honestly think the French can patrol abs stop these crossings? Get real, provide them with safe passage and these tragic incidents will stop, simple solution. | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now.
Pardon? You honestly think the French can patrol abs stop these crossings? Get real, provide them with safe passage and these tragic incidents will stop, simple solution. "So we should just give everyone safe passage and come settle here? | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now.
Pardon? You honestly think the French can patrol abs stop these crossings? Get real, provide them with safe passage and these tragic incidents will stop, simple solution.
So we should just give everyone safe passage and come settle here?
"Why shouldn’t we? They can be assessed once they get here, | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now.
Pardon? You honestly think the French can patrol abs stop these crossings? Get real, provide them with safe passage and these tragic incidents will stop, simple solution. "yes of course i do the uk has offered to help too but they dont want that either.Macron is as bad as the twat in Belarus playing politics with peoples lives.Funny how once people die they can arrest those responsible within a couple of hours.  | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now.
Pardon? You honestly think the French can patrol abs stop these crossings? Get real, provide them with safe passage and these tragic incidents will stop, simple solution. yes of course i do the uk has offered to help too but they dont want that either.Macron is as bad as the twat in Belarus playing politics with peoples lives.Funny how once people die they can arrest those responsible within a couple of hours. "Who doesn’t want safe passage? Unfortunately , we don’t have a very good ‘relationship’ with the French anymore | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now.
Pardon? You honestly think the French can patrol abs stop these crossings? Get real, provide them with safe passage and these tragic incidents will stop, simple solution. yes of course i do the uk has offered to help too but they dont want that either.Macron is as bad as the twat in Belarus playing politics with peoples lives.Funny how once people die they can arrest those responsible within a couple of hours.
Who doesn’t want safe passage? Unfortunately , we don’t have a very good ‘relationship’ with the French anymore "Sorry I misread , there is no chance the French and British can stop these crossings, your deluded | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now.
Pardon? You honestly think the French can patrol abs stop these crossings? Get real, provide them with safe passage and these tragic incidents will stop, simple solution. yes of course i do the uk has offered to help too but they dont want that either.Macron is as bad as the twat in Belarus playing politics with peoples lives.Funny how once people die they can arrest those responsible within a couple of hours.
Who doesn’t want safe passage? Unfortunately , we don’t have a very good ‘relationship’ with the French anymore "And that is enough reason for you to just accept the French are willing to let people die? unbelievable | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now.
Pardon? You honestly think the French can patrol abs stop these crossings? Get real, provide them with safe passage and these tragic incidents will stop, simple solution. yes of course i do the uk has offered to help too but they dont want that either.Macron is as bad as the twat in Belarus playing politics with peoples lives.Funny how once people die they can arrest those responsible within a couple of hours.
"Smuggling of goods has been going on for hundreds of years, drugs for decades, now people. No one has been able to stop any of those things. Maybe we should just acknowledge this is very difficult to stop, and therefore take steps to avoid it having to happen. In this case there is at least one person that needn't have been on that boat if the British government had actually done what they promised. An Afghan soldier that had worked with us. But was unable to make any contact with our authorities to get the support that had been promised. | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now.
Pardon? You honestly think the French can patrol abs stop these crossings? Get real, provide them with safe passage and these tragic incidents will stop, simple solution. yes of course i do the uk has offered to help too but they dont want that either.Macron is as bad as the twat in Belarus playing politics with peoples lives.Funny how once people die they can arrest those responsible within a couple of hours.
Who doesn’t want safe passage? Unfortunately , we don’t have a very good ‘relationship’ with the French anymore And that is enough reason for you to just accept the French are willing to let people die? unbelievable "Willing to let them die?? They can’t stop them, these people are legally entitled to come to Britain, why shouldn’t we provide them with safe passage | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now.
Pardon? You honestly think the French can patrol abs stop these crossings? Get real, provide them with safe passage and these tragic incidents will stop, simple solution. yes of course i do the uk has offered to help too but they dont want that either.Macron is as bad as the twat in Belarus playing politics with peoples lives.Funny how once people die they can arrest those responsible within a couple of hours.
Who doesn’t want safe passage? Unfortunately , we don’t have a very good ‘relationship’ with the French anymore And that is enough reason for you to just accept the French are willing to let people die? unbelievable
Willing to let them die?? They can’t stop them, these people are legally entitled to come to Britain, why shouldn’t we provide them with safe passage "can't we triage in France and then ship over those who we deem may have a claim? Other than the crossings what other mechanisms are there for claiming assylum here ? | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now.
Pardon? You honestly think the French can patrol abs stop these crossings? Get real, provide them with safe passage and these tragic incidents will stop, simple solution. yes of course i do the uk has offered to help too but they dont want that either.Macron is as bad as the twat in Belarus playing politics with peoples lives.Funny how once people die they can arrest those responsible within a couple of hours.
Who doesn’t want safe passage? Unfortunately , we don’t have a very good ‘relationship’ with the French anymore
Sorry I misread , there is no chance the French and British can stop these crossings, your deluded "Whys that then? i think you are deluded if you think they cant do it. Firstly they should confiscate the boats if they cant provide proof of purchase that would be a start.Return any boat to france before it leaves their waters word would soon get around that people are paying money and getting nowhere and it would stop.It would also help france as people would not be travelling through it if they knew they wouldnt get across the channel. All it needs is macron to stop being a twat and get real. | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now.
Pardon? You honestly think the French can patrol abs stop these crossings? Get real, provide them with safe passage and these tragic incidents will stop, simple solution. yes of course i do the uk has offered to help too but they dont want that either.Macron is as bad as the twat in Belarus playing politics with peoples lives.Funny how once people die they can arrest those responsible within a couple of hours.
Who doesn’t want safe passage? Unfortunately , we don’t have a very good ‘relationship’ with the French anymore
Sorry I misread , there is no chance the French and British can stop these crossings, your deluded Whys that then? i think you are deluded if you think they cant do it. Firstly they should confiscate the boats if they cant provide proof of purchase that would be a start.Return any boat to france before it leaves their waters word would soon get around that people are paying money and getting nowhere and it would stop.It would also help france as people would not be travelling through it if they knew they wouldnt get across the channel.
All it needs is macron to stop being a twat and get real."It won’t stop them coming, this is being organised by criminal gangs, they have been smuggling people and goods for years with very little resistance plus we don’t have a very good relationship with France anymore (I wonder why?) so they will do legally what is best for them | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now.
Pardon? You honestly think the French can patrol abs stop these crossings? Get real, provide them with safe passage and these tragic incidents will stop, simple solution. yes of course i do the uk has offered to help too but they dont want that either.Macron is as bad as the twat in Belarus playing politics with peoples lives.Funny how once people die they can arrest those responsible within a couple of hours.
Who doesn’t want safe passage? Unfortunately , we don’t have a very good ‘relationship’ with the French anymore
Sorry I misread , there is no chance the French and British can stop these crossings, your deluded Whys that then? i think you are deluded if you think they cant do it. Firstly they should confiscate the boats if they cant provide proof of purchase that would be a start.Return any boat to france before it leaves their waters word would soon get around that people are paying money and getting nowhere and it would stop.It would also help france as people would not be travelling through it if they knew they wouldnt get across the channel.
All it needs is macron to stop being a twat and get real.
It won’t stop them coming, this is being organised by criminal gangs, they have been smuggling people and goods for years with very little resistance plus we don’t have a very good relationship with France anymore (I wonder why?) so they will do legally what is best for them "Who will do legally whats best for them? Cant France cope with criminal gangs then? its not like they dont have enough money for their police you and me are paying some of their wages. | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now.
Pardon? You honestly think the French can patrol abs stop these crossings? Get real, provide them with safe passage and these tragic incidents will stop, simple solution. yes of course i do the uk has offered to help too but they dont want that either.Macron is as bad as the twat in Belarus playing politics with peoples lives.Funny how once people die they can arrest those responsible within a couple of hours.
Who doesn’t want safe passage? Unfortunately , we don’t have a very good ‘relationship’ with the French anymore
Sorry I misread , there is no chance the French and British can stop these crossings, your deluded Whys that then? i think you are deluded if you think they cant do it. Firstly they should confiscate the boats if they cant provide proof of purchase that would be a start.Return any boat to france before it leaves their waters word would soon get around that people are paying money and getting nowhere and it would stop.It would also help france as people would not be travelling through it if they knew they wouldnt get across the channel.
All it needs is macron to stop being a twat and get real.
It won’t stop them coming, this is being organised by criminal gangs, they have been smuggling people and goods for years with very little resistance plus we don’t have a very good relationship with France anymore (I wonder why?) so they will do legally what is best for them Who will do legally whats best for them? Cant France cope with criminal gangs then? its not like they dont have enough money for their police you and me are paying some of their wages."They are legally entitled to come here, they are coming here , so why can’t we provide then with safe passage? | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now.
Pardon? You honestly think the French can patrol abs stop these crossings? Get real, provide them with safe passage and these tragic incidents will stop, simple solution. yes of course i do the uk has offered to help too but they dont want that either.Macron is as bad as the twat in Belarus playing politics with peoples lives.Funny how once people die they can arrest those responsible within a couple of hours.
Who doesn’t want safe passage? Unfortunately , we don’t have a very good ‘relationship’ with the French anymore
Sorry I misread , there is no chance the French and British can stop these crossings, your deluded Whys that then? i think you are deluded if you think they cant do it. Firstly they should confiscate the boats if they cant provide proof of purchase that would be a start.Return any boat to france before it leaves their waters word would soon get around that people are paying money and getting nowhere and it would stop.It would also help france as people would not be travelling through it if they knew they wouldnt get across the channel.
All it needs is macron to stop being a twat and get real.
It won’t stop them coming, this is being organised by criminal gangs, they have been smuggling people and goods for years with very little resistance plus we don’t have a very good relationship with France anymore (I wonder why?) so they will do legally what is best for them Who will do legally whats best for them? Cant France cope with criminal gangs then? its not like they dont have enough money for their police you and me are paying some of their wages.
They are legally entitled to come here, they are coming here , so why can’t we provide then with safe passage? "If they are legally entitled to come here why dont they get on a plane rather than paying criminal gangs £1000,s surly a plane ticket is safer and cheaper. | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now.
Pardon? You honestly think the French can patrol abs stop these crossings? Get real, provide them with safe passage and these tragic incidents will stop, simple solution. yes of course i do the uk has offered to help too but they dont want that either.Macron is as bad as the twat in Belarus playing politics with peoples lives.Funny how once people die they can arrest those responsible within a couple of hours.
Who doesn’t want safe passage? Unfortunately , we don’t have a very good ‘relationship’ with the French anymore
Sorry I misread , there is no chance the French and British can stop these crossings, your deluded Whys that then? i think you are deluded if you think they cant do it. Firstly they should confiscate the boats if they cant provide proof of purchase that would be a start.Return any boat to france before it leaves their waters word would soon get around that people are paying money and getting nowhere and it would stop.It would also help france as people would not be travelling through it if they knew they wouldnt get across the channel.
All it needs is macron to stop being a twat and get real.
It won’t stop them coming, this is being organised by criminal gangs, they have been smuggling people and goods for years with very little resistance plus we don’t have a very good relationship with France anymore (I wonder why?) so they will do legally what is best for them Who will do legally whats best for them? Cant France cope with criminal gangs then? its not like they dont have enough money for their police you and me are paying some of their wages.
They are legally entitled to come here, they are coming here , so why can’t we provide then with safe passage? If they are legally entitled to come here why dont they get on a plane rather than paying criminal gangs £1000,s surly a plane ticket is safer and cheaper."PMSL, imagine thinking it works like that . You have to face facts, they are legally entitled to come here , why can’t we provide them with safe passage | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now.
Pardon? You honestly think the French can patrol abs stop these crossings? Get real, provide them with safe passage and these tragic incidents will stop, simple solution. yes of course i do the uk has offered to help too but they dont want that either.Macron is as bad as the twat in Belarus playing politics with peoples lives.Funny how once people die they can arrest those responsible within a couple of hours.
Who doesn’t want safe passage? Unfortunately , we don’t have a very good ‘relationship’ with the French anymore
Sorry I misread , there is no chance the French and British can stop these crossings, your deluded Whys that then? i think you are deluded if you think they cant do it. Firstly they should confiscate the boats if they cant provide proof of purchase that would be a start.Return any boat to france before it leaves their waters word would soon get around that people are paying money and getting nowhere and it would stop.It would also help france as people would not be travelling through it if they knew they wouldnt get across the channel.
All it needs is macron to stop being a twat and get real.
It won’t stop them coming, this is being organised by criminal gangs, they have been smuggling people and goods for years with very little resistance plus we don’t have a very good relationship with France anymore (I wonder why?) so they will do legally what is best for them Who will do legally whats best for them? Cant France cope with criminal gangs then? its not like they dont have enough money for their police you and me are paying some of their wages.
They are legally entitled to come here, they are coming here , so why can’t we provide then with safe passage? If they are legally entitled to come here why dont they get on a plane rather than paying criminal gangs £1000,s surly a plane ticket is safer and cheaper.
PMSL, imagine thinking it works like that . You have to face facts, they are legally entitled to come here , why can’t we provide them with safe passage "Come in a legal way then jump on a plane land and ask for asylum ,its not really endearing yourself if you have broke the law entering a country. | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now.
Pardon? You honestly think the French can patrol abs stop these crossings? Get real, provide them with safe passage and these tragic incidents will stop, simple solution. yes of course i do the uk has offered to help too but they dont want that either.Macron is as bad as the twat in Belarus playing politics with peoples lives.Funny how once people die they can arrest those responsible within a couple of hours.
Who doesn’t want safe passage? Unfortunately , we don’t have a very good ‘relationship’ with the French anymore
Sorry I misread , there is no chance the French and British can stop these crossings, your deluded Whys that then? i think you are deluded if you think they cant do it. Firstly they should confiscate the boats if they cant provide proof of purchase that would be a start.Return any boat to france before it leaves their waters word would soon get around that people are paying money and getting nowhere and it would stop.It would also help france as people would not be travelling through it if they knew they wouldnt get across the channel.
All it needs is macron to stop being a twat and get real.
It won’t stop them coming, this is being organised by criminal gangs, they have been smuggling people and goods for years with very little resistance plus we don’t have a very good relationship with France anymore (I wonder why?) so they will do legally what is best for them Who will do legally whats best for them? Cant France cope with criminal gangs then? its not like they dont have enough money for their police you and me are paying some of their wages.
They are legally entitled to come here, they are coming here , so why can’t we provide then with safe passage? If they are legally entitled to come here why dont they get on a plane rather than paying criminal gangs £1000,s surly a plane ticket is safer and cheaper.
PMSL, imagine thinking it works like that . You have to face facts, they are legally entitled to come here , why can’t we provide them with safe passage Come in a legal way then jump on a plane land and ask for asylum ,its not really endearing yourself if you have broke the law entering a country."PMSL, you haven’t got a clue. They don’t have bank accounts, passports etc etc they are carrying all their possessions, get a plane , laughable  | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now.
Pardon? You honestly think the French can patrol abs stop these crossings? Get real, provide them with safe passage and these tragic incidents will stop, simple solution. yes of course i do the uk has offered to help too but they dont want that either.Macron is as bad as the twat in Belarus playing politics with peoples lives.Funny how once people die they can arrest those responsible within a couple of hours.
Who doesn’t want safe passage? Unfortunately , we don’t have a very good ‘relationship’ with the French anymore
Sorry I misread , there is no chance the French and British can stop these crossings, your deluded Whys that then? i think you are deluded if you think they cant do it. Firstly they should confiscate the boats if they cant provide proof of purchase that would be a start.Return any boat to france before it leaves their waters word would soon get around that people are paying money and getting nowhere and it would stop.It would also help france as people would not be travelling through it if they knew they wouldnt get across the channel.
All it needs is macron to stop being a twat and get real.
It won’t stop them coming, this is being organised by criminal gangs, they have been smuggling people and goods for years with very little resistance plus we don’t have a very good relationship with France anymore (I wonder why?) so they will do legally what is best for them Who will do legally whats best for them? Cant France cope with criminal gangs then? its not like they dont have enough money for their police you and me are paying some of their wages.
They are legally entitled to come here, they are coming here , so why can’t we provide then with safe passage? If they are legally entitled to come here why dont they get on a plane rather than paying criminal gangs £1000,s surly a plane ticket is safer and cheaper.
PMSL, imagine thinking it works like that . You have to face facts, they are legally entitled to come here , why can’t we provide them with safe passage Come in a legal way then jump on a plane land and ask for asylum ,its not really endearing yourself if you have broke the law entering a country."what is a "legal way". Is it the boat, where you land, what you do when you land ? | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now.
Pardon? You honestly think the French can patrol abs stop these crossings? Get real, provide them with safe passage and these tragic incidents will stop, simple solution. yes of course i do the uk has offered to help too but they dont want that either.Macron is as bad as the twat in Belarus playing politics with peoples lives.Funny how once people die they can arrest those responsible within a couple of hours.
Who doesn’t want safe passage? Unfortunately , we don’t have a very good ‘relationship’ with the French anymore
Sorry I misread , there is no chance the French and British can stop these crossings, your deluded Whys that then? i think you are deluded if you think they cant do it. Firstly they should confiscate the boats if they cant provide proof of purchase that would be a start.Return any boat to france before it leaves their waters word would soon get around that people are paying money and getting nowhere and it would stop.It would also help france as people would not be travelling through it if they knew they wouldnt get across the channel.
All it needs is macron to stop being a twat and get real.
It won’t stop them coming, this is being organised by criminal gangs, they have been smuggling people and goods for years with very little resistance plus we don’t have a very good relationship with France anymore (I wonder why?) so they will do legally what is best for them Who will do legally whats best for them? Cant France cope with criminal gangs then? its not like they dont have enough money for their police you and me are paying some of their wages.
They are legally entitled to come here, they are coming here , so why can’t we provide then with safe passage? If they are legally entitled to come here why dont they get on a plane rather than paying criminal gangs £1000,s surly a plane ticket is safer and cheaper.
PMSL, imagine thinking it works like that . You have to face facts, they are legally entitled to come here , why can’t we provide them with safe passage Come in a legal way then jump on a plane land and ask for asylum ,its not really endearing yourself if you have broke the law entering a country.what is a "legal way". Is it the boat, where you land, what you do when you land ?"Isnt it the first safe country you enter? i didnt realize europe was such a dangerous place good job we are out. | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now.
Pardon? You honestly think the French can patrol abs stop these crossings? Get real, provide them with safe passage and these tragic incidents will stop, simple solution. yes of course i do the uk has offered to help too but they dont want that either.Macron is as bad as the twat in Belarus playing politics with peoples lives.Funny how once people die they can arrest those responsible within a couple of hours.
Who doesn’t want safe passage? Unfortunately , we don’t have a very good ‘relationship’ with the French anymore
Sorry I misread , there is no chance the French and British can stop these crossings, your deluded Whys that then? i think you are deluded if you think they cant do it. Firstly they should confiscate the boats if they cant provide proof of purchase that would be a start.Return any boat to france before it leaves their waters word would soon get around that people are paying money and getting nowhere and it would stop.It would also help france as people would not be travelling through it if they knew they wouldnt get across the channel.
All it needs is macron to stop being a twat and get real.
It won’t stop them coming, this is being organised by criminal gangs, they have been smuggling people and goods for years with very little resistance plus we don’t have a very good relationship with France anymore (I wonder why?) so they will do legally what is best for them Who will do legally whats best for them? Cant France cope with criminal gangs then? its not like they dont have enough money for their police you and me are paying some of their wages.
They are legally entitled to come here, they are coming here , so why can’t we provide then with safe passage? If they are legally entitled to come here why dont they get on a plane rather than paying criminal gangs £1000,s surly a plane ticket is safer and cheaper.
PMSL, imagine thinking it works like that . You have to face facts, they are legally entitled to come here , why can’t we provide them with safe passage Come in a legal way then jump on a plane land and ask for asylum ,its not really endearing yourself if you have broke the law entering a country.what is a "legal way". Is it the boat, where you land, what you do when you land ?Isnt it the first safe country you enter? i didnt realize europe was such a dangerous place good job we are out. "Incorrect | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now.
Pardon? You honestly think the French can patrol abs stop these crossings? Get real, provide them with safe passage and these tragic incidents will stop, simple solution. yes of course i do the uk has offered to help too but they dont want that either.Macron is as bad as the twat in Belarus playing politics with peoples lives.Funny how once people die they can arrest those responsible within a couple of hours.
Who doesn’t want safe passage? Unfortunately , we don’t have a very good ‘relationship’ with the French anymore
Sorry I misread , there is no chance the French and British can stop these crossings, your deluded Whys that then? i think you are deluded if you think they cant do it. Firstly they should confiscate the boats if they cant provide proof of purchase that would be a start.Return any boat to france before it leaves their waters word would soon get around that people are paying money and getting nowhere and it would stop.It would also help france as people would not be travelling through it if they knew they wouldnt get across the channel.
All it needs is macron to stop being a twat and get real.
It won’t stop them coming, this is being organised by criminal gangs, they have been smuggling people and goods for years with very little resistance plus we don’t have a very good relationship with France anymore (I wonder why?) so they will do legally what is best for them Who will do legally whats best for them? Cant France cope with criminal gangs then? its not like they dont have enough money for their police you and me are paying some of their wages.
They are legally entitled to come here, they are coming here , so why can’t we provide then with safe passage? If they are legally entitled to come here why dont they get on a plane rather than paying criminal gangs £1000,s surly a plane ticket is safer and cheaper.
PMSL, imagine thinking it works like that . You have to face facts, they are legally entitled to come here , why can’t we provide them with safe passage Come in a legal way then jump on a plane land and ask for asylum ,its not really endearing yourself if you have broke the law entering a country.what is a "legal way". Is it the boat, where you land, what you do when you land ?Isnt it the first safe country you enter? i didnt realize europe was such a dangerous place good job we are out.
Incorrect "2.2 UK legislation, policy and practice Successive UK governments have argued that people seeking asylum should claim asylum in the first safe country they reach. Existing UK asylum laws give some scope to refuse to consider an application if it is judged that the person could have claimed asylum elsewhere. A failure to take advantage of a reasonable opportunity to claim asylum whilst in a safe European country is one of the behaviours considered by Home Office caseworkers as damaging to a person’s general credibility. | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now.
Pardon? You honestly think the French can patrol abs stop these crossings? Get real, provide them with safe passage and these tragic incidents will stop, simple solution. yes of course i do the uk has offered to help too but they dont want that either.Macron is as bad as the twat in Belarus playing politics with peoples lives.Funny how once people die they can arrest those responsible within a couple of hours.
Who doesn’t want safe passage? Unfortunately , we don’t have a very good ‘relationship’ with the French anymore
Sorry I misread , there is no chance the French and British can stop these crossings, your deluded Whys that then? i think you are deluded if you think they cant do it. Firstly they should confiscate the boats if they cant provide proof of purchase that would be a start.Return any boat to france before it leaves their waters word would soon get around that people are paying money and getting nowhere and it would stop.It would also help france as people would not be travelling through it if they knew they wouldnt get across the channel.
All it needs is macron to stop being a twat and get real.
It won’t stop them coming, this is being organised by criminal gangs, they have been smuggling people and goods for years with very little resistance plus we don’t have a very good relationship with France anymore (I wonder why?) so they will do legally what is best for them Who will do legally whats best for them? Cant France cope with criminal gangs then? its not like they dont have enough money for their police you and me are paying some of their wages.
They are legally entitled to come here, they are coming here , so why can’t we provide then with safe passage? If they are legally entitled to come here why dont they get on a plane rather than paying criminal gangs £1000,s surly a plane ticket is safer and cheaper.
PMSL, imagine thinking it works like that . You have to face facts, they are legally entitled to come here , why can’t we provide them with safe passage Come in a legal way then jump on a plane land and ask for asylum ,its not really endearing yourself if you have broke the law entering a country.what is a "legal way". Is it the boat, where you land, what you do when you land ?Isnt it the first safe country you enter? i didnt realize europe was such a dangerous place good job we are out.
Incorrect 2.2 UK legislation, policy and practice
Successive UK governments have argued that people seeking asylum
should claim asylum in the first safe country they reach. Existing UK
asylum laws give some scope to refuse to consider an application if it is
judged that the person could have claimed asylum elsewhere.
A failure to take advantage of a reasonable opportunity to claim asylum
whilst in a safe European country is one of the behaviours considered by
Home Office caseworkers as damaging to a person’s general credibility."Irrelevant, they are legally entitled to come here and apply for asylum, the sooner you accept this the better, it will help clear your confusion | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now.
Pardon? You honestly think the French can patrol abs stop these crossings? Get real, provide them with safe passage and these tragic incidents will stop, simple solution. yes of course i do the uk has offered to help too but they dont want that either.Macron is as bad as the twat in Belarus playing politics with peoples lives.Funny how once people die they can arrest those responsible within a couple of hours.
Who doesn’t want safe passage? Unfortunately , we don’t have a very good ‘relationship’ with the French anymore
Sorry I misread , there is no chance the French and British can stop these crossings, your deluded Whys that then? i think you are deluded if you think they cant do it. Firstly they should confiscate the boats if they cant provide proof of purchase that would be a start.Return any boat to france before it leaves their waters word would soon get around that people are paying money and getting nowhere and it would stop.It would also help france as people would not be travelling through it if they knew they wouldnt get across the channel.
All it needs is macron to stop being a twat and get real.
It won’t stop them coming, this is being organised by criminal gangs, they have been smuggling people and goods for years with very little resistance plus we don’t have a very good relationship with France anymore (I wonder why?) so they will do legally what is best for them Who will do legally whats best for them? Cant France cope with criminal gangs then? its not like they dont have enough money for their police you and me are paying some of their wages.
They are legally entitled to come here, they are coming here , so why can’t we provide then with safe passage? If they are legally entitled to come here why dont they get on a plane rather than paying criminal gangs £1000,s surly a plane ticket is safer and cheaper.
PMSL, imagine thinking it works like that . You have to face facts, they are legally entitled to come here , why can’t we provide them with safe passage Come in a legal way then jump on a plane land and ask for asylum ,its not really endearing yourself if you have broke the law entering a country.what is a "legal way". Is it the boat, where you land, what you do when you land ?Isnt it the first safe country you enter? i didnt realize europe was such a dangerous place good job we are out.
Incorrect 2.2 UK legislation, policy and practice
Successive UK governments have argued that people seeking asylum
should claim asylum in the first safe country they reach. Existing UK
asylum laws give some scope to refuse to consider an application if it is
judged that the person could have claimed asylum elsewhere.
A failure to take advantage of a reasonable opportunity to claim asylum
whilst in a safe European country is one of the behaviours considered by
Home Office caseworkers as damaging to a person’s general credibility.
Irrelevant, they are legally entitled to come here and apply for asylum, the sooner you accept this the better, it will help clear your confusion "What is happening in Albania that we dont know about any idea? | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now.
Pardon? You honestly think the French can patrol abs stop these crossings? Get real, provide them with safe passage and these tragic incidents will stop, simple solution. yes of course i do the uk has offered to help too but they dont want that either.Macron is as bad as the twat in Belarus playing politics with peoples lives.Funny how once people die they can arrest those responsible within a couple of hours.
Who doesn’t want safe passage? Unfortunately , we don’t have a very good ‘relationship’ with the French anymore
Sorry I misread , there is no chance the French and British can stop these crossings, your deluded Whys that then? i think you are deluded if you think they cant do it. Firstly they should confiscate the boats if they cant provide proof of purchase that would be a start.Return any boat to france before it leaves their waters word would soon get around that people are paying money and getting nowhere and it would stop.It would also help france as people would not be travelling through it if they knew they wouldnt get across the channel.
All it needs is macron to stop being a twat and get real.
It won’t stop them coming, this is being organised by criminal gangs, they have been smuggling people and goods for years with very little resistance plus we don’t have a very good relationship with France anymore (I wonder why?) so they will do legally what is best for them Who will do legally whats best for them? Cant France cope with criminal gangs then? its not like they dont have enough money for their police you and me are paying some of their wages.
They are legally entitled to come here, they are coming here , so why can’t we provide then with safe passage? If they are legally entitled to come here why dont they get on a plane rather than paying criminal gangs £1000,s surly a plane ticket is safer and cheaper.
PMSL, imagine thinking it works like that . You have to face facts, they are legally entitled to come here , why can’t we provide them with safe passage Come in a legal way then jump on a plane land and ask for asylum ,its not really endearing yourself if you have broke the law entering a country.what is a "legal way". Is it the boat, where you land, what you do when you land ?Isnt it the first safe country you enter? i didnt realize europe was such a dangerous place good job we are out.
Incorrect 2.2 UK legislation, policy and practice
Successive UK governments have argued that people seeking asylum
should claim asylum in the first safe country they reach. Existing UK
asylum laws give some scope to refuse to consider an application if it is
judged that the person could have claimed asylum elsewhere.
A failure to take advantage of a reasonable opportunity to claim asylum
whilst in a safe European country is one of the behaviours considered by
Home Office caseworkers as damaging to a person’s general credibility.
Irrelevant, they are legally entitled to come here and apply for asylum, the sooner you accept this the better, it will help clear your confusion What is happening in Albania that we dont know about any idea?"No idea, | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now.
Pardon? You honestly think the French can patrol abs stop these crossings? Get real, provide them with safe passage and these tragic incidents will stop, simple solution. yes of course i do the uk has offered to help too but they dont want that either.Macron is as bad as the twat in Belarus playing politics with peoples lives.Funny how once people die they can arrest those responsible within a couple of hours.
Who doesn’t want safe passage? Unfortunately , we don’t have a very good ‘relationship’ with the French anymore
Sorry I misread , there is no chance the French and British can stop these crossings, your deluded Whys that then? i think you are deluded if you think they cant do it. Firstly they should confiscate the boats if they cant provide proof of purchase that would be a start.Return any boat to france before it leaves their waters word would soon get around that people are paying money and getting nowhere and it would stop.It would also help france as people would not be travelling through it if they knew they wouldnt get across the channel.
All it needs is macron to stop being a twat and get real.
It won’t stop them coming, this is being organised by criminal gangs, they have been smuggling people and goods for years with very little resistance plus we don’t have a very good relationship with France anymore (I wonder why?) so they will do legally what is best for them Who will do legally whats best for them? Cant France cope with criminal gangs then? its not like they dont have enough money for their police you and me are paying some of their wages.
They are legally entitled to come here, they are coming here , so why can’t we provide then with safe passage? If they are legally entitled to come here why dont they get on a plane rather than paying criminal gangs £1000,s surly a plane ticket is safer and cheaper.
PMSL, imagine thinking it works like that . You have to face facts, they are legally entitled to come here , why can’t we provide them with safe passage Come in a legal way then jump on a plane land and ask for asylum ,its not really endearing yourself if you have broke the law entering a country.what is a "legal way". Is it the boat, where you land, what you do when you land ?Isnt it the first safe country you enter? i didnt realize europe was such a dangerous place good job we are out.
Incorrect 2.2 UK legislation, policy and practice
Successive UK governments have argued that people seeking asylum
should claim asylum in the first safe country they reach. Existing UK
asylum laws give some scope to refuse to consider an application if it is
judged that the person could have claimed asylum elsewhere.
A failure to take advantage of a reasonable opportunity to claim asylum
whilst in a safe European country is one of the behaviours considered by
Home Office caseworkers as damaging to a person’s general credibility.
Irrelevant, they are legally entitled to come here and apply for asylum, the sooner you accept this the better, it will help clear your confusion What is happening in Albania that we dont know about any idea?
No idea, "I thought you might as you seem to think they have a right to claim asylum here, 63 on a boat brought into Harwich the 3 people responsable have recently been done. | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now.
Pardon? You honestly think the French can patrol abs stop these crossings? Get real, provide them with safe passage and these tragic incidents will stop, simple solution. yes of course i do the uk has offered to help too but they dont want that either.Macron is as bad as the twat in Belarus playing politics with peoples lives.Funny how once people die they can arrest those responsible within a couple of hours.
Who doesn’t want safe passage? Unfortunately , we don’t have a very good ‘relationship’ with the French anymore
Sorry I misread , there is no chance the French and British can stop these crossings, your deluded Whys that then? i think you are deluded if you think they cant do it. Firstly they should confiscate the boats if they cant provide proof of purchase that would be a start.Return any boat to france before it leaves their waters word would soon get around that people are paying money and getting nowhere and it would stop.It would also help france as people would not be travelling through it if they knew they wouldnt get across the channel.
All it needs is macron to stop being a twat and get real.
It won’t stop them coming, this is being organised by criminal gangs, they have been smuggling people and goods for years with very little resistance plus we don’t have a very good relationship with France anymore (I wonder why?) so they will do legally what is best for them Who will do legally whats best for them? Cant France cope with criminal gangs then? its not like they dont have enough money for their police you and me are paying some of their wages.
They are legally entitled to come here, they are coming here , so why can’t we provide then with safe passage? If they are legally entitled to come here why dont they get on a plane rather than paying criminal gangs £1000,s surly a plane ticket is safer and cheaper.
PMSL, imagine thinking it works like that . You have to face facts, they are legally entitled to come here , why can’t we provide them with safe passage Come in a legal way then jump on a plane land and ask for asylum ,its not really endearing yourself if you have broke the law entering a country.what is a "legal way". Is it the boat, where you land, what you do when you land ?Isnt it the first safe country you enter? i didnt realize europe was such a dangerous place good job we are out.
Incorrect 2.2 UK legislation, policy and practice
Successive UK governments have argued that people seeking asylum
should claim asylum in the first safe country they reach. Existing UK
asylum laws give some scope to refuse to consider an application if it is
judged that the person could have claimed asylum elsewhere.
A failure to take advantage of a reasonable opportunity to claim asylum
whilst in a safe European country is one of the behaviours considered by
Home Office caseworkers as damaging to a person’s general credibility.
Irrelevant, they are legally entitled to come here and apply for asylum, the sooner you accept this the better, it will help clear your confusion What is happening in Albania that we dont know about any idea?
No idea, I thought you might as you seem to think they have a right to claim asylum here, 63 on a boat brought into Harwich the 3 people responsable have recently been done."Incorrect, i said they are legally entitled to apply for asylum | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now.
Pardon? You honestly think the French can patrol abs stop these crossings? Get real, provide them with safe passage and these tragic incidents will stop, simple solution. yes of course i do the uk has offered to help too but they dont want that either.Macron is as bad as the twat in Belarus playing politics with peoples lives.Funny how once people die they can arrest those responsible within a couple of hours.
Who doesn’t want safe passage? Unfortunately , we don’t have a very good ‘relationship’ with the French anymore
Sorry I misread , there is no chance the French and British can stop these crossings, your deluded Whys that then? i think you are deluded if you think they cant do it. Firstly they should confiscate the boats if they cant provide proof of purchase that would be a start.Return any boat to france before it leaves their waters word would soon get around that people are paying money and getting nowhere and it would stop.It would also help france as people would not be travelling through it if they knew they wouldnt get across the channel.
All it needs is macron to stop being a twat and get real.
It won’t stop them coming, this is being organised by criminal gangs, they have been smuggling people and goods for years with very little resistance plus we don’t have a very good relationship with France anymore (I wonder why?) so they will do legally what is best for them Who will do legally whats best for them? Cant France cope with criminal gangs then? its not like they dont have enough money for their police you and me are paying some of their wages.
They are legally entitled to come here, they are coming here , so why can’t we provide then with safe passage? If they are legally entitled to come here why dont they get on a plane rather than paying criminal gangs £1000,s surly a plane ticket is safer and cheaper.
PMSL, imagine thinking it works like that . You have to face facts, they are legally entitled to come here , why can’t we provide them with safe passage Come in a legal way then jump on a plane land and ask for asylum ,its not really endearing yourself if you have broke the law entering a country.what is a "legal way". Is it the boat, where you land, what you do when you land ?Isnt it the first safe country you enter? i didnt realize europe was such a dangerous place good job we are out.
Incorrect 2.2 UK legislation, policy and practice
Successive UK governments have argued that people seeking asylum
should claim asylum in the first safe country they reach. Existing UK
asylum laws give some scope to refuse to consider an application if it is
judged that the person could have claimed asylum elsewhere.
A failure to take advantage of a reasonable opportunity to claim asylum
whilst in a safe European country is one of the behaviours considered by
Home Office caseworkers as damaging to a person’s general credibility.
Irrelevant, they are legally entitled to come here and apply for asylum, the sooner you accept this the better, it will help clear your confusion What is happening in Albania that we dont know about any idea?
No idea, I thought you might as you seem to think they have a right to claim asylum here, 63 on a boat brought into Harwich the 3 people responsable have recently been done.
Incorrect, i said they are legally entitled to apply for asylum "An ‘asylum seeker’ is a person who has left their country of origin, applied for protection (‘asylum’) in another country from persecution or serious human rights violations. I will ask again whats going on in Albania? i will leave you to find out as cant sit on here all day. | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now.
Pardon? You honestly think the French can patrol abs stop these crossings? Get real, provide them with safe passage and these tragic incidents will stop, simple solution. yes of course i do the uk has offered to help too but they dont want that either.Macron is as bad as the twat in Belarus playing politics with peoples lives.Funny how once people die they can arrest those responsible within a couple of hours.
Who doesn’t want safe passage? Unfortunately , we don’t have a very good ‘relationship’ with the French anymore
Sorry I misread , there is no chance the French and British can stop these crossings, your deluded Whys that then? i think you are deluded if you think they cant do it. Firstly they should confiscate the boats if they cant provide proof of purchase that would be a start.Return any boat to france before it leaves their waters word would soon get around that people are paying money and getting nowhere and it would stop.It would also help france as people would not be travelling through it if they knew they wouldnt get across the channel.
All it needs is macron to stop being a twat and get real.
It won’t stop them coming, this is being organised by criminal gangs, they have been smuggling people and goods for years with very little resistance plus we don’t have a very good relationship with France anymore (I wonder why?) so they will do legally what is best for them Who will do legally whats best for them? Cant France cope with criminal gangs then? its not like they dont have enough money for their police you and me are paying some of their wages.
They are legally entitled to come here, they are coming here , so why can’t we provide then with safe passage? If they are legally entitled to come here why dont they get on a plane rather than paying criminal gangs £1000,s surly a plane ticket is safer and cheaper.
PMSL, imagine thinking it works like that . You have to face facts, they are legally entitled to come here , why can’t we provide them with safe passage Come in a legal way then jump on a plane land and ask for asylum ,its not really endearing yourself if you have broke the law entering a country.what is a "legal way". Is it the boat, where you land, what you do when you land ?Isnt it the first safe country you enter? i didnt realize europe was such a dangerous place good job we are out.
Incorrect 2.2 UK legislation, policy and practice
Successive UK governments have argued that people seeking asylum
should claim asylum in the first safe country they reach. Existing UK
asylum laws give some scope to refuse to consider an application if it is
judged that the person could have claimed asylum elsewhere.
A failure to take advantage of a reasonable opportunity to claim asylum
whilst in a safe European country is one of the behaviours considered by
Home Office caseworkers as damaging to a person’s general credibility.
Irrelevant, they are legally entitled to come here and apply for asylum, the sooner you accept this the better, it will help clear your confusion What is happening in Albania that we dont know about any idea?
No idea, I thought you might as you seem to think they have a right to claim asylum here, 63 on a boat brought into Harwich the 3 people responsable have recently been done.
Incorrect, i said they are legally entitled to apply for asylum An ‘asylum seeker’ is a person who has left their country of origin,
applied for protection (‘asylum’) in another country from persecution or
serious human rights violations.
I will ask again whats going on in Albania? i will leave you to find out as cant sit on here all day. "I will tell you again, I have no idea. I hope you have now accepted that asylum seekers are legally entitled to apply for asylum in the UK. | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Sank So would you just stand by and watch someone put a child in mortal danger and do nothing?" Don't need evidence, the video is clear.. Police stood on the dunes smoking cigarettes while a dinghy was taken right past them to the beach. They are as guilty as the guys giving them the boat to let it happen in front of them. In international maritime law, it is an offence to stand back and do nothing where lives are at risk. | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now.
Pardon? You honestly think the French can patrol abs stop these crossings? Get real, provide them with safe passage and these tragic incidents will stop, simple solution. yes of course i do the uk has offered to help too but they dont want that either.Macron is as bad as the twat in Belarus playing politics with peoples lives.Funny how once people die they can arrest those responsible within a couple of hours.
Who doesn’t want safe passage? Unfortunately , we don’t have a very good ‘relationship’ with the French anymore
Sorry I misread , there is no chance the French and British can stop these crossings, your deluded Whys that then? i think you are deluded if you think they cant do it. Firstly they should confiscate the boats if they cant provide proof of purchase that would be a start.Return any boat to france before it leaves their waters word would soon get around that people are paying money and getting nowhere and it would stop.It would also help france as people would not be travelling through it if they knew they wouldnt get across the channel.
All it needs is macron to stop being a twat and get real.
It won’t stop them coming, this is being organised by criminal gangs, they have been smuggling people and goods for years with very little resistance plus we don’t have a very good relationship with France anymore (I wonder why?) so they will do legally what is best for them Who will do legally whats best for them? Cant France cope with criminal gangs then? its not like they dont have enough money for their police you and me are paying some of their wages.
They are legally entitled to come here, they are coming here , so why can’t we provide then with safe passage? If they are legally entitled to come here why dont they get on a plane rather than paying criminal gangs £1000,s surly a plane ticket is safer and cheaper.
PMSL, imagine thinking it works like that . You have to face facts, they are legally entitled to come here , why can’t we provide them with safe passage Come in a legal way then jump on a plane land and ask for asylum ,its not really endearing yourself if you have broke the law entering a country.what is a "legal way". Is it the boat, where you land, what you do when you land ?Isnt it the first safe country you enter? i didnt realize europe was such a dangerous place good job we are out. "no it's the country with the best benefits that's the safe place as said it might be legal but I'd be after changing that to definitely first safe country. | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Sank So would you just stand by and watch someone put a child in mortal danger and do nothing? Don't need evidence, the video is clear.. Police stood on the dunes smoking cigarettes while a dinghy was taken right past them to the beach. They are as guilty as the guys giving them the boat to let it happen in front of them. In international maritime law, it is an offence to stand back and do nothing where lives are at risk." If there is evidence Then these people should be rightly punished, I am totally ignorant of maritime law, what constitutes a risk to life ? | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now.
Pardon? You honestly think the French can patrol abs stop these crossings? Get real, provide them with safe passage and these tragic incidents will stop, simple solution. yes of course i do the uk has offered to help too but they dont want that either.Macron is as bad as the twat in Belarus playing politics with peoples lives.Funny how once people die they can arrest those responsible within a couple of hours.
Who doesn’t want safe passage? Unfortunately , we don’t have a very good ‘relationship’ with the French anymore
Sorry I misread , there is no chance the French and British can stop these crossings, your deluded Whys that then? i think you are deluded if you think they cant do it. Firstly they should confiscate the boats if they cant provide proof of purchase that would be a start.Return any boat to france before it leaves their waters word would soon get around that people are paying money and getting nowhere and it would stop.It would also help france as people would not be travelling through it if they knew they wouldnt get across the channel.
All it needs is macron to stop being a twat and get real.
It won’t stop them coming, this is being organised by criminal gangs, they have been smuggling people and goods for years with very little resistance plus we don’t have a very good relationship with France anymore (I wonder why?) so they will do legally what is best for them Who will do legally whats best for them? Cant France cope with criminal gangs then? its not like they dont have enough money for their police you and me are paying some of their wages.
They are legally entitled to come here, they are coming here , so why can’t we provide then with safe passage? If they are legally entitled to come here why dont they get on a plane rather than paying criminal gangs £1000,s surly a plane ticket is safer and cheaper.
PMSL, imagine thinking it works like that . You have to face facts, they are legally entitled to come here , why can’t we provide them with safe passage Come in a legal way then jump on a plane land and ask for asylum ,its not really endearing yourself if you have broke the law entering a country.what is a "legal way". Is it the boat, where you land, what you do when you land ?Isnt it the first safe country you enter? i didnt realize europe was such a dangerous place good job we are out. no it's the country with the best benefits that's the safe place as said it might be legal but I'd be after changing that to definitely first safe country."Why do the vast majority stay in France and Germany then? | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now.
Pardon? You honestly think the French can patrol abs stop these crossings? Get real, provide them with safe passage and these tragic incidents will stop, simple solution. "do you mean the U.K. provide them with safe passage ? | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Sank So would you just stand by and watch someone put a child in mortal danger and do nothing? Don't need evidence, the video is clear.. Police stood on the dunes smoking cigarettes while a dinghy was taken right past them to the beach. They are as guilty as the guys giving them the boat to let it happen in front of them. In international maritime law, it is an offence to stand back and do nothing where lives are at risk. If there is evidence Then these people should be rightly punished, I am totally ignorant of maritime law, what constitutes a risk to life ? " Probably being in a overloaded dinghy in one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Sank So would you just stand by and watch someone put a child in mortal danger and do nothing? Don't need evidence, the video is clear.. Police stood on the dunes smoking cigarettes while a dinghy was taken right past them to the beach. They are as guilty as the guys giving them the boat to let it happen in front of them. In international maritime law, it is an offence to stand back and do nothing where lives are at risk. If there is evidence Then these people should be rightly punished, I am totally ignorant of maritime law, what constitutes a risk to life ? Probably being in a overloaded dinghy in one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world " the dinghy is a non licensed vessel for starters being guided by an unqualified skipper, carrying fare paying passengers with no life raft or radio equipment... etc etc | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Sank So would you just stand by and watch someone put a child in mortal danger and do nothing? Don't need evidence, the video is clear.. Police stood on the dunes smoking cigarettes while a dinghy was taken right past them to the beach. They are as guilty as the guys giving them the boat to let it happen in front of them. In international maritime law, it is an offence to stand back and do nothing where lives are at risk. If there is evidence Then these people should be rightly punished, I am totally ignorant of maritime law, what constitutes a risk to life ? Probably being in a overloaded dinghy in one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world the dinghy is a non licensed vessel for starters being guided by an unqualified skipper, carrying fare paying passengers with no life raft or radio equipment... etc etc "yes but still the fault of the U.K. apparently ffs | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Not that one that i know of but plenty of footage out there of others, do they know if they will or not then? When you say ‘the French’ do you mean the police / coast guard etc? Tbh , I honestly don’t know what authority they have to stop them but if they can the people making the crossings will just go from elsewhere Well i think they have the authority to stop them for one putting a child in danger should be enough but boats in france even small ones need recreational permits so theres another avenue.
Maybe they aren’t watching them leave then, if they did try and prevent this it won’t stop the crossings, just delay them and probably make them even more dangerous Oh thats ok then ffs ive heard it all now.
Pardon? You honestly think the French can patrol abs stop these crossings? Get real, provide them with safe passage and these tragic incidents will stop, simple solution. yes of course i do the uk has offered to help too but they dont want that either.Macron is as bad as the twat in Belarus playing politics with peoples lives.Funny how once people die they can arrest those responsible within a couple of hours.
Who doesn’t want safe passage? Unfortunately , we don’t have a very good ‘relationship’ with the French anymore
Sorry I misread , there is no chance the French and British can stop these crossings, your deluded Whys that then? i think you are deluded if you think they cant do it. Firstly they should confiscate the boats if they cant provide proof of purchase that would be a start.Return any boat to france before it leaves their waters word would soon get around that people are paying money and getting nowhere and it would stop.It would also help france as people would not be travelling through it if they knew they wouldnt get across the channel.
All it needs is macron to stop being a twat and get real.
It won’t stop them coming, this is being organised by criminal gangs, they have been smuggling people and goods for years with very little resistance plus we don’t have a very good relationship with France anymore (I wonder why?) so they will do legally what is best for them Who will do legally whats best for them? Cant France cope with criminal gangs then? its not like they dont have enough money for their police you and me are paying some of their wages.
They are legally entitled to come here, they are coming here , so why can’t we provide then with safe passage? If they are legally entitled to come here why dont they get on a plane rather than paying criminal gangs £1000,s surly a plane ticket is safer and cheaper.
PMSL, imagine thinking it works like that . You have to face facts, they are legally entitled to come here , why can’t we provide them with safe passage Come in a legal way then jump on a plane land and ask for asylum ,its not really endearing yourself if you have broke the law entering a country.what is a "legal way". Is it the boat, where you land, what you do when you land ?Isnt it the first safe country you enter? i didnt realize europe was such a dangerous place good job we are out. no it's the country with the best benefits that's the safe place as said it might be legal but I'd be after changing that to definitely first safe country.
Why do the vast majority stay in France and Germany then? "don't no ask them but also whilst there why england what's so good about this place no doubt some will say family but that's not enough for me yes it's tragic but was always going to happen. | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Sank So would you just stand by and watch someone put a child in mortal danger and do nothing? Don't need evidence, the video is clear.. Police stood on the dunes smoking cigarettes while a dinghy was taken right past them to the beach. They are as guilty as the guys giving them the boat to let it happen in front of them. In international maritime law, it is an offence to stand back and do nothing where lives are at risk. If there is evidence Then these people should be rightly punished, I am totally ignorant of maritime law, what constitutes a risk to life ? " Complicity in allowing a dangerous act, failing or refusing to assist or prevent a situation where lives can be lost. Ignoring by failing to respond or relay a Mayday call or even knowingly having a VHF radio switched off at sea (not monitoring) can land any user with a radio and license with severe penalties. I get that these people would not have had VHF but turning a blind eye could and should result in culpable manslaughter charges. Culpable Homicide: Culpable homicide will be the appropriate charge where an act (or failure to act) brings about the end someone’s life but there was no intent on the part of the accused. There will be something within the European Human Rights Laws, plus Frances jurisdiction of a similar nature and certainly within the UK. | |||
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"Reading so many of these posts there is such a distinct lack of compassion or any sense of duty to our fellow human! Everyone is so busy pointing fingers trying to ascribe blame, it’s Frances’s fault, it’s the UK’s fault etc etc. What is needed is to pull back and look at the macro conditions driving these issues and determine what level of responsibility the UK (and the West as a whole) has in creating this situation. Like it or not, morally the UK, the fifth richest country in the world (remember the Brexit rhetoric on how that status assured us a big bright economic future so must be true) needs to do our fair share. The whole question re “first safe country” is moot anyway because that would mean all middle eastern refugees must stay in Turkey or Greece. Putting responsibility soley at the convenience of geography ignores how powerful countries like the UK have historically projected that power thousands of miles beyond our own border. We did this almost exclusively to protect our own economic interests (oil) and to try and make up for previous cock ups in our own foreign policy (arming Saddam Hussein against Iran). This has led to a massive destabilisation of parts of the Middle East enabling the rise of fundamentalist muslims leading to war, horrendous persecution and famine. We, the UK did this. We ARE responsible and we DO have a moral obligation to do our fair share to solve the situation. " you start by saying stop pointing and blaming and then POINT at the old empire etc etc | |||
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"Its obvious the french dont give a fuck when they stand there watching young kids being loaded into unseaworthy boats and sailing off into the unknown.I hope they can sleep at night knowing they have done nothing. Do we have any evidence that ‘the French’ watched this boat leave before it tragically sunk? Sank So would you just stand by and watch someone put a child in mortal danger and do nothing? Don't need evidence, the video is clear.. Police stood on the dunes smoking cigarettes while a dinghy was taken right past them to the beach. They are as guilty as the guys giving them the boat to let it happen in front of them. In international maritime law, it is an offence to stand back and do nothing where lives are at risk. If there is evidence Then these people should be rightly punished, I am totally ignorant of maritime law, what constitutes a risk to life ? Complicity in allowing a dangerous act, failing or refusing to assist or prevent a situation where lives can be lost. Ignoring by failing to respond or relay a Mayday call or even knowingly having a VHF radio switched off at sea (not monitoring) can land any user with a radio and license with severe penalties. I get that these people would not have had VHF but turning a blind eye could and should result in culpable manslaughter charges. Culpable Homicide: Culpable homicide will be the appropriate charge where an act (or failure to act) brings about the end someone’s life but there was no intent on the part of the accused. There will be something within the European Human Rights Laws, plus Frances jurisdiction of a similar nature and certainly within the UK." I see, so another boat has to assist in the case of a problem rather than try and stop the boats direction of travel | |||
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Nothing like the Polish border situation."people being pushed towards another country... looks similar to me and my next door neighbours, thats 3 vs 1 | |||
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I didn’t realise they had a channel on the polish border (not boarder ) "sshhhh it winds up ffs | |||
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Nothing like the Polish border situation.
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Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK."well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you | |||
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I didn’t realise they had a channel on the polish border (not boarder )
sshhhh it winds up ffs
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I didn’t realise they had a channel on the polish border (not boarder )
sshhhh it winds up ffs
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"Reading so many of these posts there is such a distinct lack of compassion or any sense of duty to our fellow human! Everyone is so busy pointing fingers trying to ascribe blame, it’s Frances’s fault, it’s the UK’s fault etc etc. What is needed is to pull back and look at the macro conditions driving these issues and determine what level of responsibility the UK (and the West as a whole) has in creating this situation. Like it or not, morally the UK, the fifth richest country in the world (remember the Brexit rhetoric on how that status assured us a big bright economic future so must be true) needs to do our fair share. The whole question re “first safe country” is moot anyway because that would mean all middle eastern refugees must stay in Turkey or Greece. Putting responsibility soley at the convenience of geography ignores how powerful countries like the UK have historically projected that power thousands of miles beyond our own border. We did this almost exclusively to protect our own economic interests (oil) and to try and make up for previous cock ups in our own foreign policy (arming Saddam Hussein against Iran). This has led to a massive destabilisation of parts of the Middle East enabling the rise of fundamentalist muslims leading to war, horrendous persecution and famine. We, the UK did this. We ARE responsible and we DO have a moral obligation to do our fair share to solve the situation. you start by saying stop pointing and blaming and then POINT at the old empire etc etc "Instead of always trying to be so irreverent and edgy all the time, how about addressing the actual point being made. My moral obligation (on the whole of the West not just the UK) stands as does the point on doing our fair share to sort out the mess we helped create. BTW there was no mention of Empire. My examples were far more recent. If you are going to have a dig at least get your facts straight! | |||
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Nothing like the Polish border situation.
people being pushed towards another country... looks similar to me and my next door neighbours, thats 3 vs 1 "I know you struggle with the complex stuff so I'll try and keep this simple. Polish border Belarus, close ally of Russia, opens up cheap charter flights from conflict points in mid-east. People get off planes onto coaches. Coaches drive them to Polish border. Troops from Belarus then assist Refugees to try and get over border. So apart from no large bodies of water, or people smugglers, or boats being involved it's exactly the same | |||
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Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you "It was mentioned on peston on tv last night that there are reports and footage from journalists of the french using tear gas to clear camps and rubber bullets to reinforce the point, sad to see to say the least  | |||
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I didn’t realise they had a channel on the polish border (not boarder )
sshhhh it winds up ffs
Winds up ?
boarder border, i did it last week and she blew a gasket
Ah, so your pretending to do it on purpose, not sure if that is working well for you "the first time i think i spelt it wrong and spell check fixed it, wrong! but its hit and miss | |||
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Nothing like the Polish border situation.
people being pushed towards another country... looks similar to me and my next door neighbours, thats 3 vs 1
I know you struggle with the complex stuff so I'll try and keep this simple.
Polish border
Belarus, close ally of Russia, opens up cheap charter flights from conflict points in mid-east.
People get off planes onto coaches. Coaches drive them to Polish border.
Troops from Belarus then assist Refugees to try and get over border.
So apart from no large bodies of water, or people smugglers, or boats being involved it's exactly the same "i didnt say the terrain was the same! or the mode of transport used! I said pushing people towards boarders... can you read, do you actually follow sentences or just make your own up version? seems like you do... here blah blah blah sure you can make that say whatever you like, you are basically talking to yourself | |||
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Nothing like the Polish border situation.
people being pushed towards another country... looks similar to me and my next door neighbours, thats 3 vs 1
I know you struggle with the complex stuff so I'll try and keep this simple.
Polish border
Belarus, close ally of Russia, opens up cheap charter flights from conflict points in mid-east.
People get off planes onto coaches. Coaches drive them to Polish border.
Troops from Belarus then assist Refugees to try and get over border.
So apart from no large bodies of water, or people smugglers, or boats being involved it's exactly the same
i didnt say the terrain was the same! or the mode of transport used! I said pushing people towards boarders... can you read, do you actually follow sentences or just make your own up version? seems like you do... here blah blah blah sure you can make that say whatever you like, you are basically talking to yourself "I'm just trying to help you with your comprehension skills. It's nice to help others  | |||
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"Reading so many of these posts there is such a distinct lack of compassion or any sense of duty to our fellow human! Everyone is so busy pointing fingers trying to ascribe blame, it’s Frances’s fault, it’s the UK’s fault etc etc. What is needed is to pull back and look at the macro conditions driving these issues and determine what level of responsibility the UK (and the West as a whole) has in creating this situation. Like it or not, morally the UK, the fifth richest country in the world (remember the Brexit rhetoric on how that status assured us a big bright economic future so must be true) needs to do our fair share. The whole question re “first safe country” is moot anyway because that would mean all middle eastern refugees must stay in Turkey or Greece. Putting responsibility soley at the convenience of geography ignores how powerful countries like the UK have historically projected that power thousands of miles beyond our own border. We did this almost exclusively to protect our own economic interests (oil) and to try and make up for previous cock ups in our own foreign policy (arming Saddam Hussein against Iran). This has led to a massive destabilisation of parts of the Middle East enabling the rise of fundamentalist muslims leading to war, horrendous persecution and famine. We, the UK did this. We ARE responsible and we DO have a moral obligation to do our fair share to solve the situation. you start by saying stop pointing and blaming and then POINT at the old empire etc etc
Instead of always trying to be so irreverent and edgy all the time, how about addressing the actual point being made.
My moral obligation (on the whole of the West not just the UK) stands as does the point on doing our fair share to sort out the mess we helped create.
BTW there was no mention of Empire. My examples were far more recent. If you are going to have a dig at least get your facts straight!"do the french have no moral obligation standing by waching this happen in there shores or is it just the fault of the U.K. that these poor people died why is everything the fault of the U.K. | |||
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Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you "Just the sort of reply I would have expected. Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it. Truth never got in the way of a good story though. As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope. Farage would be proud of you. | |||
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Nothing like the Polish border situation.
people being pushed towards another country... looks similar to me and my next door neighbours, thats 3 vs 1
I know you struggle with the complex stuff so I'll try and keep this simple.
Polish border
Belarus, close ally of Russia, opens up cheap charter flights from conflict points in mid-east.
People get off planes onto coaches. Coaches drive them to Polish border.
Troops from Belarus then assist Refugees to try and get over border.
So apart from no large bodies of water, or people smugglers, or boats being involved it's exactly the same "I guess these one have passports then if they flying in | |||
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Nothing like the Polish border situation.
people being pushed towards another country... looks similar to me and my next door neighbours, thats 3 vs 1
I know you struggle with the complex stuff so I'll try and keep this simple.
Polish border
Belarus, close ally of Russia, opens up cheap charter flights from conflict points in mid-east.
People get off planes onto coaches. Coaches drive them to Polish border.
Troops from Belarus then assist Refugees to try and get over border.
So apart from no large bodies of water, or people smugglers, or boats being involved it's exactly the same
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Nothing like the Polish border situation.
people being pushed towards another country... looks similar to me and my next door neighbours, thats 3 vs 1
I know you struggle with the complex stuff so I'll try and keep this simple.
Polish border
Belarus, close ally of Russia, opens up cheap charter flights from conflict points in mid-east.
People get off planes onto coaches. Coaches drive them to Polish border.
Troops from Belarus then assist Refugees to try and get over border.
So apart from no large bodies of water, or people smugglers, or boats being involved it's exactly the same
i didnt say the terrain was the same! or the mode of transport used! I said pushing people towards boarders... can you read, do you actually follow sentences or just make your own up version? seems like you do... here blah blah blah sure you can make that say whatever you like, you are basically talking to yourself
I'm just trying to help you with your comprehension skills. It's nice to help others "Tell yourself what you want hun, if it makes you feel better, you will anyway, everyone else can read back up the thread | |||
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"Why don't we allow the French to do a ferry run each week? I'm sure ppl won't risk dying of there is the safe passage of a boat .... Tbh, that is a very good solution " But the people who cant get on the ferry coz its full, will use a dinghy | |||
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2 ferry’s "just open the tunnel up and have total free movement, no boats required, in fact can i live with george clooney on lake como as thats where i want to live | |||
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2 ferry’s
just open the tunnel up and have total free movement, no boats required, in fact can i live with george clooney on lake como as thats where i want to live "could have done half of that a few years ago .... Probs not as easy now. | |||
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just open the tunnel up and have total free movement, no boats required, in fact can i live with george clooney on lake como as thats where i want to live could have done half of that a few years ago .... Probs not as easy now. "yep there was a vote, its called democracy... but some are now wanting to piss on it, dirty bastards | |||
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Instead of always trying to be so irreverent and edgy all the time, how about addressing the actual point being made.
My moral obligation (on the whole of the West not just the UK) stands as does the point on doing our fair share to sort out the mess we helped create.
BTW there was no mention of Empire. My examples were far more recent. If you are going to have a dig at least get your facts straight!do the french have no moral obligation standing by waching this happen in there shores or is it just the fault of the U.K. that these poor people died why is everything the fault of the U.K. "Show me where I said it was ONLY the fault of the UK? I clearly said the West had a moral obligation due to creating the situation and the UK needs to do its fair share. | |||
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"Why don't we allow the French to do a ferry run each week? I'm sure ppl won't risk dying of there is the safe passage of a boat .... Tbh, that is a very good solution But the people who cant get on the ferry coz its full, will use a dinghy
2 ferry’s
just open the tunnel up and have total free movement, no boats required, in fact can i live with george clooney on lake como as thats where i want to live "Nah, the ferry’s are suffice , | |||
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"One of the migrants was on tv saying the french police purposely steal their possessions and mess up their camps, that they are clearly not wanted in france and it is not a safe place for them, which is why they head to uk. Polish boarder similar situation?
Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you
Just the sort of reply I would have expected.
Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it.
Truth never got in the way of a good story though.
As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope.
Farage would be proud of you.
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"One of the migrants was on tv saying the french police purposely steal their possessions and mess up their camps, that they are clearly not wanted in france and it is not a safe place for them, which is why they head to uk. Polish boarder similar situation?
Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you
Just the sort of reply I would have expected.
Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it.
Truth never got in the way of a good story though.
As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope.
Farage would be proud of you.
No he'd be proud of the French and Europe for pushing them right through and out other side "Is this what ‘controlling our borders’ looks like | |||
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"One of the migrants was on tv saying the french police purposely steal their possessions and mess up their camps, that they are clearly not wanted in france and it is not a safe place for them, which is why they head to uk. Polish boarder similar situation?
Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you
Just the sort of reply I would have expected.
Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it.
Truth never got in the way of a good story though.
As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope.
Farage would be proud of you.
No he'd be proud of the French and Europe for pushing them right through and out other side
Is this what ‘controlling our borders’ looks like "Yep whole thing is a mess, criminals are running rings round them  | |||
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"One of the migrants was on tv saying the french police purposely steal their possessions and mess up their camps, that they are clearly not wanted in france and it is not a safe place for them, which is why they head to uk. Polish boarder similar situation?
Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you
Just the sort of reply I would have expected.
Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it.
Truth never got in the way of a good story though.
As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope.
Farage would be proud of you.
No he'd be proud of the French and Europe for pushing them right through and out other side "If the EU countries are so undemocratic and evil as you suggest you should surely be supporting freedom loving migrants to escape to the liberty and prosperity of the UK? Or does that narrative not fit in with your limited version of the truth? | |||
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"Was only when not if but one man predicted it over 18 months ago but nobody listened and they didn't listen about the EU till it was to late,could have all been so different but I'm sure the same man will also sort out the illegal boats ." Only if he stops getting paid for flogging video messages and they extract him from Trumps ring piece first? | |||
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"One of the migrants was on tv saying the french police purposely steal their possessions and mess up their camps, that they are clearly not wanted in france and it is not a safe place for them, which is why they head to uk. Polish boarder similar situation?
Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you
Just the sort of reply I would have expected.
Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it.
Truth never got in the way of a good story though.
As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope.
Farage would be proud of you.
No he'd be proud of the French and Europe for pushing them right through and out other side
Is this what ‘controlling our borders’ looks like "would you prefer no border ? | |||
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"One of the migrants was on tv saying the french police purposely steal their possessions and mess up their camps, that they are clearly not wanted in france and it is not a safe place for them, which is why they head to uk. Polish boarder similar situation?
Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you
Just the sort of reply I would have expected.
Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it.
Truth never got in the way of a good story though.
As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope.
Farage would be proud of you.
No he'd be proud of the French and Europe for pushing them right through and out other side
If the EU countries are so undemocratic and evil as you suggest you should surely be supporting freedom loving migrants to escape to the liberty and prosperity of the UK?
Or does that narrative not fit in with your limited version of the truth?"so why do migrants flee france? perhaps its people like you who live there who arent the very nice ones? you and your mates been smashing up their camps again? pushing them on through? rather than welcoming them with open arms | |||
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"One of the migrants was on tv saying the french police purposely steal their possessions and mess up their camps, that they are clearly not wanted in france and it is not a safe place for them, which is why they head to uk. Polish boarder similar situation?
Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you
Just the sort of reply I would have expected.
Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it.
Truth never got in the way of a good story though.
As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope.
Farage would be proud of you.
No he'd be proud of the French and Europe for pushing them right through and out other side
If the EU countries are so undemocratic and evil as you suggest you should surely be supporting freedom loving migrants to escape to the liberty and prosperity of the UK?
Or does that narrative not fit in with your limited version of the truth?
so why do migrants flee france? perhaps its people like you who live there who arent the very nice ones? you and your mates been smashing up their camps again? pushing them on through? rather than welcoming them with open arms "If memory serves its the likes of daily fail readers who have been advocating getting tough with migrants. France gets tough with migrants and it's not acceptable to daily fail readers | |||
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"One of the migrants was on tv saying the french police purposely steal their possessions and mess up their camps, that they are clearly not wanted in france and it is not a safe place for them, which is why they head to uk. Polish boarder similar situation?
Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you
Just the sort of reply I would have expected.
Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it.
Truth never got in the way of a good story though.
As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope.
Farage would be proud of you.
No he'd be proud of the French and Europe for pushing them right through and out other side
Is this what ‘controlling our borders’ looks like would you prefer no border ?"What are you on about? | |||
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"One of the migrants was on tv saying the french police purposely steal their possessions and mess up their camps, that they are clearly not wanted in france and it is not a safe place for them, which is why they head to uk. Polish boarder similar situation?
Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you
Just the sort of reply I would have expected.
Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it.
Truth never got in the way of a good story though.
As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope.
Farage would be proud of you.
No he'd be proud of the French and Europe for pushing them right through and out other side
Is this what ‘controlling our borders’ looks like would you prefer no border ?
What are you on about? "you keep going on about safe passage to the U.K. is that your big plan | |||
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"One of the migrants was on tv saying the french police purposely steal their possessions and mess up their camps, that they are clearly not wanted in france and it is not a safe place for them, which is why they head to uk. Polish boarder similar situation?
Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you
Just the sort of reply I would have expected.
Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it.
Truth never got in the way of a good story though.
As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope.
Farage would be proud of you.
No he'd be proud of the French and Europe for pushing them right through and out other side
Is this what ‘controlling our borders’ looks like would you prefer no border ?
What are you on about? you keep going on about safe passage to the U.K. is that your big plan "Yeah, but I am not in charge, so it’s irrelevant, what is your plan? | |||
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"One of the migrants was on tv saying the french police purposely steal their possessions and mess up their camps, that they are clearly not wanted in france and it is not a safe place for them, which is why they head to uk. Polish boarder similar situation?
Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you
Just the sort of reply I would have expected.
Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it.
Truth never got in the way of a good story though.
As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope.
Farage would be proud of you.
No he'd be proud of the French and Europe for pushing them right through and out other side
Is this what ‘controlling our borders’ looks like would you prefer no border ?
What are you on about? you keep going on about safe passage to the U.K. is that your big plan
Yeah, but I am not in charge, so it’s irrelevant, what is your plan?"if your plan is irrelevant so are all ours as like you say we arnt in charge | |||
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"One of the migrants was on tv saying the french police purposely steal their possessions and mess up their camps, that they are clearly not wanted in france and it is not a safe place for them, which is why they head to uk. Polish boarder similar situation?
Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you
Just the sort of reply I would have expected.
Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it.
Truth never got in the way of a good story though.
As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope.
Farage would be proud of you.
No he'd be proud of the French and Europe for pushing them right through and out other side
Is this what ‘controlling our borders’ looks like would you prefer no border ?
What are you on about? you keep going on about safe passage to the U.K. is that your big plan
Yeah, but I am not in charge, so it’s irrelevant, what is your plan?if your plan is irrelevant so are all ours as like you say we arnt in charge "Exactly, it’s only my opinion, it’s irrelevant , | |||
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"One of the migrants was on tv saying the french police purposely steal their possessions and mess up their camps, that they are clearly not wanted in france and it is not a safe place for them, which is why they head to uk. Polish boarder similar situation?
Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you
Just the sort of reply I would have expected.
Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it.
Truth never got in the way of a good story though.
As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope.
Farage would be proud of you.
No he'd be proud of the French and Europe for pushing them right through and out other side
If the EU countries are so undemocratic and evil as you suggest you should surely be supporting freedom loving migrants to escape to the liberty and prosperity of the UK?
Or does that narrative not fit in with your limited version of the truth?
so why do migrants flee france? perhaps its people like you who live there who arent the very nice ones? you and your mates been smashing up their camps again? pushing them on through? rather than welcoming them with open arms
If memory serves its the likes of daily fail readers who have been advocating getting tough with migrants.
France gets tough with migrants and it's not acceptable to daily fail readers "dont you read the daily fail? or write it anyway? | |||
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"One of the migrants was on tv saying the french police purposely steal their possessions and mess up their camps, that they are clearly not wanted in france and it is not a safe place for them, which is why they head to uk. Polish boarder similar situation?
Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you
Just the sort of reply I would have expected.
Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it.
Truth never got in the way of a good story though.
As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope.
Farage would be proud of you.
No he'd be proud of the French and Europe for pushing them right through and out other side
If the EU countries are so undemocratic and evil as you suggest you should surely be supporting freedom loving migrants to escape to the liberty and prosperity of the UK?
Or does that narrative not fit in with your limited version of the truth?
so why do migrants flee france? perhaps its people like you who live there who arent the very nice ones? you and your mates been smashing up their camps again? pushing them on through? rather than welcoming them with open arms
If memory serves its the likes of daily fail readers who have been advocating getting tough with migrants.
France gets tough with migrants and it's not acceptable to daily fail readers
dont you read the daily fail? or write it anyway? "it seems to me that its only remainers who read it as they always seem to be quoting it. The irony. | |||
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"One of the migrants was on tv saying the french police purposely steal their possessions and mess up their camps, that they are clearly not wanted in france and it is not a safe place for them, which is why they head to uk. Polish boarder similar situation?
Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you
Just the sort of reply I would have expected.
Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it.
Truth never got in the way of a good story though.
As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope.
Farage would be proud of you.
No he'd be proud of the French and Europe for pushing them right through and out other side
If the EU countries are so undemocratic and evil as you suggest you should surely be supporting freedom loving migrants to escape to the liberty and prosperity of the UK?
Or does that narrative not fit in with your limited version of the truth?
so why do migrants flee france? perhaps its people like you who live there who arent the very nice ones? you and your mates been smashing up their camps again? pushing them on through? rather than welcoming them with open arms
If memory serves its the likes of daily fail readers who have been advocating getting tough with migrants.
France gets tough with migrants and it's not acceptable to daily fail readers
dont you read the daily fail? or write it anyway? it seems to me that its only remainers who read it as they always seem to be quoting it. The irony."Could be because we are the ones who can read | |||
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"One of the migrants was on tv saying the french police purposely steal their possessions and mess up their camps, that they are clearly not wanted in france and it is not a safe place for them, which is why they head to uk. Polish boarder similar situation?
Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you
Just the sort of reply I would have expected.
Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it.
Truth never got in the way of a good story though.
As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope.
Farage would be proud of you.
No he'd be proud of the French and Europe for pushing them right through and out other side
If the EU countries are so undemocratic and evil as you suggest you should surely be supporting freedom loving migrants to escape to the liberty and prosperity of the UK?
Or does that narrative not fit in with your limited version of the truth?
so why do migrants flee france? perhaps its people like you who live there who arent the very nice ones? you and your mates been smashing up their camps again? pushing them on through? rather than welcoming them with open arms
If memory serves its the likes of daily fail readers who have been advocating getting tough with migrants.
France gets tough with migrants and it's not acceptable to daily fail readers
dont you read the daily fail? or write it anyway? it seems to me that its only remainers who read it as they always seem to be quoting it. The irony.
Could be because we are the ones who can read"Theres that lefty compassion everyone talks about | |||
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"One of the migrants was on tv saying the french police purposely steal their possessions and mess up their camps, that they are clearly not wanted in france and it is not a safe place for them, which is why they head to uk. Polish boarder similar situation?
Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you
Just the sort of reply I would have expected.
Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it.
Truth never got in the way of a good story though.
As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope.
Farage would be proud of you.
No he'd be proud of the French and Europe for pushing them right through and out other side
If the EU countries are so undemocratic and evil as you suggest you should surely be supporting freedom loving migrants to escape to the liberty and prosperity of the UK?
Or does that narrative not fit in with your limited version of the truth?
so why do migrants flee france? perhaps its people like you who live there who arent the very nice ones? you and your mates been smashing up their camps again? pushing them on through? rather than welcoming them with open arms
If memory serves its the likes of daily fail readers who have been advocating getting tough with migrants.
France gets tough with migrants and it's not acceptable to daily fail readers
dont you read the daily fail? or write it anyway? it seems to me that its only remainers who read it as they always seem to be quoting it. The irony.
Could be because we are the ones who can read
Theres that lefty compassion everyone talks about "Careful, don't want you getting angry again. | |||
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"One of the migrants was on tv saying the french police purposely steal their possessions and mess up their camps, that they are clearly not wanted in france and it is not a safe place for them, which is why they head to uk. Polish boarder similar situation?
Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you
Just the sort of reply I would have expected.
Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it.
Truth never got in the way of a good story though.
As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope.
Farage would be proud of you.
No he'd be proud of the French and Europe for pushing them right through and out other side
If the EU countries are so undemocratic and evil as you suggest you should surely be supporting freedom loving migrants to escape to the liberty and prosperity of the UK?
Or does that narrative not fit in with your limited version of the truth?
so why do migrants flee france? perhaps its people like you who live there who arent the very nice ones? you and your mates been smashing up their camps again? pushing them on through? rather than welcoming them with open arms "About 3% of the migrants entering France try to get to the UK, the others apply to stay in France. Perhaps you were not aware of that so I will forgive you as otherwise people would think that you are simply uneducated . | |||
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"One of the migrants was on tv saying the french police purposely steal their possessions and mess up their camps, that they are clearly not wanted in france and it is not a safe place for them, which is why they head to uk. Polish boarder similar situation?
Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you
Just the sort of reply I would have expected.
Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it.
Truth never got in the way of a good story though.
As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope.
Farage would be proud of you.
No he'd be proud of the French and Europe for pushing them right through and out other side
If the EU countries are so undemocratic and evil as you suggest you should surely be supporting freedom loving migrants to escape to the liberty and prosperity of the UK?
Or does that narrative not fit in with your limited version of the truth?
so why do migrants flee france? perhaps its people like you who live there who arent the very nice ones? you and your mates been smashing up their camps again? pushing them on through? rather than welcoming them with open arms
About 3% of the migrants entering France try to get to the UK, the others apply to stay in France.
Perhaps you were not aware of that so I will forgive you as otherwise people would think that you are simply uneducated ."In France, demographers classify as "immigrants" all persons of foreign nationality born outside France. So a teacher moving to dordogne and buying a villa with a pension in their eyes is a migrant | |||
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"One of the migrants was on tv saying the french police purposely steal their possessions and mess up their camps, that they are clearly not wanted in france and it is not a safe place for them, which is why they head to uk. Polish boarder similar situation?
Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you
Just the sort of reply I would have expected.
Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it.
Truth never got in the way of a good story though.
As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope.
Farage would be proud of you.
No he'd be proud of the French and Europe for pushing them right through and out other side
If the EU countries are so undemocratic and evil as you suggest you should surely be supporting freedom loving migrants to escape to the liberty and prosperity of the UK?
Or does that narrative not fit in with your limited version of the truth?
so why do migrants flee france? perhaps its people like you who live there who arent the very nice ones? you and your mates been smashing up their camps again? pushing them on through? rather than welcoming them with open arms
About 3% of the migrants entering France try to get to the UK, the others apply to stay in France.
Perhaps you were not aware of that so I will forgive you as otherwise people would think that you are simply uneducated ."And not keeping up with frances immigration percentages hardly makes someone uneducated, perhaps you are to uneducated to realise that or perhaps you are just a bully? a caring sharing left wing one | |||
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"One of the migrants was on tv saying the french police purposely steal their possessions and mess up their camps, that they are clearly not wanted in france and it is not a safe place for them, which is why they head to uk. Polish boarder similar situation?
Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you
Just the sort of reply I would have expected.
Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it.
Truth never got in the way of a good story though.
As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope.
Farage would be proud of you.
No he'd be proud of the French and Europe for pushing them right through and out other side
If the EU countries are so undemocratic and evil as you suggest you should surely be supporting freedom loving migrants to escape to the liberty and prosperity of the UK?
Or does that narrative not fit in with your limited version of the truth?
so why do migrants flee france? perhaps its people like you who live there who arent the very nice ones? you and your mates been smashing up their camps again? pushing them on through? rather than welcoming them with open arms
About 3% of the migrants entering France try to get to the UK, the others apply to stay in France.
Perhaps you were not aware of that so I will forgive you as otherwise people would think that you are simply uneducated .
In France, demographers classify as "immigrants" all persons of foreign nationality born outside France. So a teacher moving to dordogne and buying a villa with a pension in their eyes is a migrant "Do you want to open another thread about foreign teachers buying property as I think you are on the wrong site here? | |||
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"One of the migrants was on tv saying the french police purposely steal their possessions and mess up their camps, that they are clearly not wanted in france and it is not a safe place for them, which is why they head to uk. Polish boarder similar situation?
Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you
Just the sort of reply I would have expected.
Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it.
Truth never got in the way of a good story though.
As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope.
Farage would be proud of you.
No he'd be proud of the French and Europe for pushing them right through and out other side
If the EU countries are so undemocratic and evil as you suggest you should surely be supporting freedom loving migrants to escape to the liberty and prosperity of the UK?
Or does that narrative not fit in with your limited version of the truth?
so why do migrants flee france? perhaps its people like you who live there who arent the very nice ones? you and your mates been smashing up their camps again? pushing them on through? rather than welcoming them with open arms
About 3% of the migrants entering France try to get to the UK, the others apply to stay in France.
Perhaps you were not aware of that so I will forgive you as otherwise people would think that you are simply uneducated .
In France, demographers classify as "immigrants" all persons of foreign nationality born outside France. So a teacher moving to dordogne and buying a villa with a pension in their eyes is a migrant "Are there thousands of these teachers? | |||
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"One of the migrants was on tv saying the french police purposely steal their possessions and mess up their camps, that they are clearly not wanted in france and it is not a safe place for them, which is why they head to uk. Polish boarder similar situation?
Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you
Just the sort of reply I would have expected.
Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it.
Truth never got in the way of a good story though.
As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope.
Farage would be proud of you.
No he'd be proud of the French and Europe for pushing them right through and out other side
If the EU countries are so undemocratic and evil as you suggest you should surely be supporting freedom loving migrants to escape to the liberty and prosperity of the UK?
Or does that narrative not fit in with your limited version of the truth?
so why do migrants flee france? perhaps its people like you who live there who arent the very nice ones? you and your mates been smashing up their camps again? pushing them on through? rather than welcoming them with open arms
About 3% of the migrants entering France try to get to the UK, the others apply to stay in France.
Perhaps you were not aware of that so I will forgive you as otherwise people would think that you are simply uneducated .
In France, demographers classify as "immigrants" all persons of foreign nationality born outside France. So a teacher moving to dordogne and buying a villa with a pension in their eyes is a migrant
Are there thousands of these teachers? "Do you know that there aren't? | |||
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"One of the migrants was on tv saying the french police purposely steal their possessions and mess up their camps, that they are clearly not wanted in france and it is not a safe place for them, which is why they head to uk. Polish boarder similar situation?
Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you
Just the sort of reply I would have expected.
Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it.
Truth never got in the way of a good story though.
As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope.
Farage would be proud of you.
No he'd be proud of the French and Europe for pushing them right through and out other side
If the EU countries are so undemocratic and evil as you suggest you should surely be supporting freedom loving migrants to escape to the liberty and prosperity of the UK?
Or does that narrative not fit in with your limited version of the truth?
so why do migrants flee france? perhaps its people like you who live there who arent the very nice ones? you and your mates been smashing up their camps again? pushing them on through? rather than welcoming them with open arms
About 3% of the migrants entering France try to get to the UK, the others apply to stay in France.
Perhaps you were not aware of that so I will forgive you as otherwise people would think that you are simply uneducated .
In France, demographers classify as "immigrants" all persons of foreign nationality born outside France. So a teacher moving to dordogne and buying a villa with a pension in their eyes is a migrant
Are there thousands of these teachers?
Do you know that there aren't?"No idea, you mentioned them, though you might have know. | |||
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"One of the migrants was on tv saying the french police purposely steal their possessions and mess up their camps, that they are clearly not wanted in france and it is not a safe place for them, which is why they head to uk. Polish boarder similar situation?
Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you
Just the sort of reply I would have expected.
Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it.
Truth never got in the way of a good story though.
As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope.
Farage would be proud of you.
No he'd be proud of the French and Europe for pushing them right through and out other side
If the EU countries are so undemocratic and evil as you suggest you should surely be supporting freedom loving migrants to escape to the liberty and prosperity of the UK?
Or does that narrative not fit in with your limited version of the truth?
so why do migrants flee france? perhaps its people like you who live there who arent the very nice ones? you and your mates been smashing up their camps again? pushing them on through? rather than welcoming them with open arms
About 3% of the migrants entering France try to get to the UK, the others apply to stay in France.
Perhaps you were not aware of that so I will forgive you as otherwise people would think that you are simply uneducated .
In France, demographers classify as "immigrants" all persons of foreign nationality born outside France. So a teacher moving to dordogne and buying a villa with a pension in their eyes is a migrant
Are there thousands of these teachers?
Do you know that there aren't?
No idea, you mentioned them, though you might have know. "Known | |||
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"One of the migrants was on tv saying the french police purposely steal their possessions and mess up their camps, that they are clearly not wanted in france and it is not a safe place for them, which is why they head to uk. Polish boarder similar situation?
Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you
Just the sort of reply I would have expected.
Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it.
Truth never got in the way of a good story though.
As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope.
Farage would be proud of you.
No he'd be proud of the French and Europe for pushing them right through and out other side
If the EU countries are so undemocratic and evil as you suggest you should surely be supporting freedom loving migrants to escape to the liberty and prosperity of the UK?
Or does that narrative not fit in with your limited version of the truth?
so why do migrants flee france? perhaps its people like you who live there who arent the very nice ones? you and your mates been smashing up their camps again? pushing them on through? rather than welcoming them with open arms
About 3% of the migrants entering France try to get to the UK, the others apply to stay in France.
Perhaps you were not aware of that so I will forgive you as otherwise people would think that you are simply uneducated .
In France, demographers classify as "immigrants" all persons of foreign nationality born outside France. So a teacher moving to dordogne and buying a villa with a pension in their eyes is a migrant
Do you want to open another thread about foreign teachers buying property as I think you are on the wrong site here?"you were the one that started quoting migrant figures that include legitimate home moves | |||
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"One of the migrants was on tv saying the french police purposely steal their possessions and mess up their camps, that they are clearly not wanted in france and it is not a safe place for them, which is why they head to uk. Polish boarder similar situation?
Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you
Just the sort of reply I would have expected.
Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it.
Truth never got in the way of a good story though.
As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope.
Farage would be proud of you.
No he'd be proud of the French and Europe for pushing them right through and out other side
If the EU countries are so undemocratic and evil as you suggest you should surely be supporting freedom loving migrants to escape to the liberty and prosperity of the UK?
Or does that narrative not fit in with your limited version of the truth?
so why do migrants flee france? perhaps its people like you who live there who arent the very nice ones? you and your mates been smashing up their camps again? pushing them on through? rather than welcoming them with open arms
About 3% of the migrants entering France try to get to the UK, the others apply to stay in France.
Perhaps you were not aware of that so I will forgive you as otherwise people would think that you are simply uneducated .
In France, demographers classify as "immigrants" all persons of foreign nationality born outside France. So a teacher moving to dordogne and buying a villa with a pension in their eyes is a migrant
Are there thousands of these teachers?
Do you know that there aren't?
No idea, you mentioned them, though you might have know. "yep 1000s in the dordogne alone! ive met most of them, they call it dordogneshire and drive round in bmw x5s | |||
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"One of the migrants was on tv saying the french police purposely steal their possessions and mess up their camps, that they are clearly not wanted in france and it is not a safe place for them, which is why they head to uk. Polish boarder similar situation?
Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you
Just the sort of reply I would have expected.
Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it.
Truth never got in the way of a good story though.
As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope.
Farage would be proud of you.
No he'd be proud of the French and Europe for pushing them right through and out other side
If the EU countries are so undemocratic and evil as you suggest you should surely be supporting freedom loving migrants to escape to the liberty and prosperity of the UK?
Or does that narrative not fit in with your limited version of the truth?
so why do migrants flee france? perhaps its people like you who live there who arent the very nice ones? you and your mates been smashing up their camps again? pushing them on through? rather than welcoming them with open arms
About 3% of the migrants entering France try to get to the UK, the others apply to stay in France.
Perhaps you were not aware of that so I will forgive you as otherwise people would think that you are simply uneducated .
In France, demographers classify as "immigrants" all persons of foreign nationality born outside France. So a teacher moving to dordogne and buying a villa with a pension in their eyes is a migrant
Are there thousands of these teachers?
Do you know that there aren't?
No idea, you mentioned them, though you might have know.
yep 1000s in the dordogne alone! ive met most of them, they call it dordogneshire and drive round in bmw x5s "Ah, another ‘made up’ story, | |||
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"One of the migrants was on tv saying the french police purposely steal their possessions and mess up their camps, that they are clearly not wanted in france and it is not a safe place for them, which is why they head to uk. Polish boarder similar situation?
Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you
Just the sort of reply I would have expected.
Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it.
Truth never got in the way of a good story though.
As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope.
Farage would be proud of you.
No he'd be proud of the French and Europe for pushing them right through and out other side
If the EU countries are so undemocratic and evil as you suggest you should surely be supporting freedom loving migrants to escape to the liberty and prosperity of the UK?
Or does that narrative not fit in with your limited version of the truth?
so why do migrants flee france? perhaps its people like you who live there who arent the very nice ones? you and your mates been smashing up their camps again? pushing them on through? rather than welcoming them with open arms
About 3% of the migrants entering France try to get to the UK, the others apply to stay in France.
Perhaps you were not aware of that so I will forgive you as otherwise people would think that you are simply uneducated .
In France, demographers classify as "immigrants" all persons of foreign nationality born outside France. So a teacher moving to dordogne and buying a villa with a pension in their eyes is a migrant
Are there thousands of these teachers?
Do you know that there aren't?
No idea, you mentioned them, though you might have know.
yep 1000s in the dordogne alone! ive met most of them, they call it dordogneshire and drive round in bmw x5s
Ah, another ‘made up’ story, "no, seriously! it seems to be the place for retired professionals, 7,200 brits according to french stats... many ex teachers | |||
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"One of the migrants was on tv saying the french police purposely steal their possessions and mess up their camps, that they are clearly not wanted in france and it is not a safe place for them, which is why they head to uk. Polish boarder similar situation?
Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you
Just the sort of reply I would have expected.
Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it.
Truth never got in the way of a good story though.
As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope.
Farage would be proud of you.
No he'd be proud of the French and Europe for pushing them right through and out other side
If the EU countries are so undemocratic and evil as you suggest you should surely be supporting freedom loving migrants to escape to the liberty and prosperity of the UK?
Or does that narrative not fit in with your limited version of the truth?
so why do migrants flee france? perhaps its people like you who live there who arent the very nice ones? you and your mates been smashing up their camps again? pushing them on through? rather than welcoming them with open arms
About 3% of the migrants entering France try to get to the UK, the others apply to stay in France.
Perhaps you were not aware of that so I will forgive you as otherwise people would think that you are simply uneducated .
In France, demographers classify as "immigrants" all persons of foreign nationality born outside France. So a teacher moving to dordogne and buying a villa with a pension in their eyes is a migrant
Are there thousands of these teachers?
Do you know that there aren't?
No idea, you mentioned them, though you might have know.
yep 1000s in the dordogne alone! ive met most of them, they call it dordogneshire and drive round in bmw x5s
Ah, another ‘made up’ story,
no, seriously! it seems to be the place for retired professionals, 7,200 brits according to french stats... many ex teachers "1.5 % of the population, | |||
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"One of the migrants was on tv saying the french police purposely steal their possessions and mess up their camps, that they are clearly not wanted in france and it is not a safe place for them, which is why they head to uk. Polish boarder similar situation?
Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you
Just the sort of reply I would have expected.
Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it.
Truth never got in the way of a good story though.
As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope.
Farage would be proud of you.
No he'd be proud of the French and Europe for pushing them right through and out other side
If the EU countries are so undemocratic and evil as you suggest you should surely be supporting freedom loving migrants to escape to the liberty and prosperity of the UK?
Or does that narrative not fit in with your limited version of the truth?
so why do migrants flee france? perhaps its people like you who live there who arent the very nice ones? you and your mates been smashing up their camps again? pushing them on through? rather than welcoming them with open arms
About 3% of the migrants entering France try to get to the UK, the others apply to stay in France.
Perhaps you were not aware of that so I will forgive you as otherwise people would think that you are simply uneducated .
In France, demographers classify as "immigrants" all persons of foreign nationality born outside France. So a teacher moving to dordogne and buying a villa with a pension in their eyes is a migrant
Are there thousands of these teachers?
Do you know that there aren't?
No idea, you mentioned them, though you might have know.
yep 1000s in the dordogne alone! ive met most of them, they call it dordogneshire and drive round in bmw x5s
Ah, another ‘made up’ story,
no, seriously! it seems to be the place for retired professionals, 7,200 brits according to french stats... many ex teachers
1.5 % of the population,
"your point? its only one area and one nationality! read the thread Ive got other stuff to do like meeting french migrants that have settled, they collect me in their BMW poor poor french migrants | |||
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"One of the migrants was on tv saying the french police purposely steal their possessions and mess up their camps, that they are clearly not wanted in france and it is not a safe place for them, which is why they head to uk. Polish boarder similar situation?
Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you
Just the sort of reply I would have expected.
Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it.
Truth never got in the way of a good story though.
As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope.
Farage would be proud of you.
No he'd be proud of the French and Europe for pushing them right through and out other side
If the EU countries are so undemocratic and evil as you suggest you should surely be supporting freedom loving migrants to escape to the liberty and prosperity of the UK?
Or does that narrative not fit in with your limited version of the truth?
so why do migrants flee france? perhaps its people like you who live there who arent the very nice ones? you and your mates been smashing up their camps again? pushing them on through? rather than welcoming them with open arms
About 3% of the migrants entering France try to get to the UK, the others apply to stay in France.
Perhaps you were not aware of that so I will forgive you as otherwise people would think that you are simply uneducated .
In France, demographers classify as "immigrants" all persons of foreign nationality born outside France. So a teacher moving to dordogne and buying a villa with a pension in their eyes is a migrant
Are there thousands of these teachers?
Do you know that there aren't?
No idea, you mentioned them, though you might have know.
yep 1000s in the dordogne alone! ive met most of them, they call it dordogneshire and drive round in bmw x5s
Ah, another ‘made up’ story,
no, seriously! it seems to be the place for retired professionals, 7,200 brits according to french stats... many ex teachers
1.5 % of the population,
your point? its only one area and one nationality! read the thread Ive got other stuff to do like meeting french migrants that have settled, they collect me in their BMW poor poor french migrants "Of course they did | |||
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"One of the migrants was on tv saying the french police purposely steal their possessions and mess up their camps, that they are clearly not wanted in france and it is not a safe place for them, which is why they head to uk. Polish boarder similar situation?
Only part of the story
Yes, the French police do take down their camps and take their tents etc. and they are offered housing in hostels but the majority do not take this as they want to stay in Calais and cross to the UK.
Imagine if you lived in Calais or Dunkerque what it must be like to have these migrant camps nearby. The French try to move them on. Many time these camps have been destroyed and the people bussed to other parts of France only for them to return back to Calais with the dream of crossing to the UK.
well thats not how the migrant told his story but if you dont want to believe him and side with the facist establishment of france thats up to you
Just the sort of reply I would have expected.
Some people simply hate the EU and everything to do with it.
Truth never got in the way of a good story though.
As long as there are people with a similar mindset the poor people who are just looking for a better life have no hope.
Farage would be proud of you.
No he'd be proud of the French and Europe for pushing them right through and out other side
If the EU countries are so undemocratic and evil as you suggest you should surely be supporting freedom loving migrants to escape to the liberty and prosperity of the UK?
Or does that narrative not fit in with your limited version of the truth?
so why do migrants flee france? perhaps its people like you who live there who arent the very nice ones? you and your mates been smashing up their camps again? pushing them on through? rather than welcoming them with open arms
About 3% of the migrants entering France try to get to the UK, the others apply to stay in France.
Perhaps you were not aware of that so I will forgive you as otherwise people would think that you are simply uneducated .
In France, demographers classify as "immigrants" all persons of foreign nationality born outside France. So a teacher moving to dordogne and buying a villa with a pension in their eyes is a migrant
Are there thousands of these teachers?
Do you know that there aren't?
No idea, you mentioned them, though you might have know.
yep 1000s in the dordogne alone! ive met most of them, they call it dordogneshire and drive round in bmw x5s
Ah, another ‘made up’ story,
no, seriously! it seems to be the place for retired professionals, 7,200 brits according to french stats... many ex teachers
1.5 % of the population,
your point? its only one area and one nationality! read the thread Ive got other stuff to do like meeting french migrants that have settled, they collect me in their BMW poor poor french migrants
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"Well the UK needs teachers, nurses, doctors, fruit pickers, truck drivers etc etc. How many job vacancies are there? Last I read it was around a million. Clearly Brits aren’t stepping up! We also have a negative birth rate amongst “native” brits. Hmmm maybe we should be a bit more open to these people wanting to coming here?" lots of job vacancies unemployment is low compared to a lot of countries that’s great news | |||
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