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"The history books will surely look back on this period with some degree of incredulity. 1) The Referendum - to win the referendum, the Leave side had to demonise our closest trading partners and enable xenophobes to crawl out from under the floorboards. No wonder now that our country is divided internally and disliked by the EU Members who we demonised. This is where the culture war originated. 2) The consequences. a) A financial hit twice that of the worst global pandemic in living memory for which we are now going to start paying for. If paying for the pandemic is costly - what are going to be paying (or losing) for something that is going to be twice as costly. The Chancellor relies on the OBR to formulate his budget - it’s pointless to say they can’t be trusted. b) A loss of standing and trust internationally. The great name of the United Kingdom has been severely tarnished as we head into a new era of ever more intense squabbles and disagreements with our neighbours. The current fishing issue with France being one example and that story still has legs because de-escalation is not in the Brexit dictionary. Why? Really, just why? Nothing good has come from this and anyone with any kind of common sense can see that nothing good will ever come from it." BUT YOU NEED TO BELIEVE!!!!!! 1) Brexit is gonna be great, no downside only upside! 2) Ok it might be looking a bit shit so... 3) Blame Remainers! Because we all know that we need to blame someone else for our own lot in life. | |||
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"Finally! A thread about Brexit "Lol. They're usually pretty funny though. | |||
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"If he had a pound for every thread he’s started about brexit he wouldn’t be worried about it at all lol" And could hide it in off shore accounts paying no tax. Lol. | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers " Lol yep | |||
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"Nobody has demonised our closest trading partner unless you call not paying to be in their little exclusive club. So dramatic we are still trading with them just looking elsewhere too how is that demonising them?" Really? Ask your local Czech and Polish populations if they have been feeling welcome. The hostility by some very vocal Brexiters about our European neighbours has been abysmal and shameful. Hatred of the Germans (for controlling Europe), dislike of poor South European countries “bleeding” money. You must have had your eyes and ears closed for the last 6 years. That or your denialism is now set in concrete. | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers " Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy. | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy." It's easier to tell people they're "moaning" than it is to face reality. | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy." I truly think that there is a sizeable group who buy into the Bertie Booster's, charlatan in charge, message and are pigs in shit happy. Some of them have a similar lack of moral scruples and give hardly a damn about anyone else or the future for others. | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy. I truly think that there is a sizeable group who buy into the Bertie Booster's, charlatan in charge, message and are pigs in shit happy. Some of them have a similar lack of moral scruples and give hardly a damn about anyone else or the future for others. " They obviously don’t care about ‘their ‘ country | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy. I truly think that there is a sizeable group who buy into the Bertie Booster's, charlatan in charge, message and are pigs in shit happy. Some of them have a similar lack of moral scruples and give hardly a damn about anyone else or the future for others. They obviously don’t care about ‘their ‘ country " They don’t. They seem to have become all snowflakey and delicate because things aren’t quite working out the way they hoped. Maybe they feel that it easier to accept being a snowflake than admit that you are gullible? | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy. I truly think that there is a sizeable group who buy into the Bertie Booster's, charlatan in charge, message and are pigs in shit happy. Some of them have a similar lack of moral scruples and give hardly a damn about anyone else or the future for others. They obviously don’t care about ‘their ‘ country They don’t. They seem to have become all snowflakey and delicate because things aren’t quite working out the way they hoped. Maybe they feel that it easier to accept being a snowflake than admit that you are gullible?" yes because we are all traitors and racist uneducated riffraff or wait wonder who used to post that a few years back ? Probably an open non judgmental poster lol | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy. I truly think that there is a sizeable group who buy into the Bertie Booster's, charlatan in charge, message and are pigs in shit happy. Some of them have a similar lack of moral scruples and give hardly a damn about anyone else or the future for others. They obviously don’t care about ‘their ‘ country They don’t. They seem to have become all snowflakey and delicate because things aren’t quite working out the way they hoped. Maybe they feel that it easier to accept being a snowflake than admit that you are gullible?yes because we are all traitors and racist uneducated riffraff or wait wonder who used to post that a few years back ? Probably an open non judgmental poster lol" A traitor is someone who wilfully takes an action that they know will damage their country. 17.4 million people need to work out if they are traitors or if they are just gullible. As for the oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits - they all voted for Brexit. But that doesn’t mean that all. Brexiters are oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits. | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy. I truly think that there is a sizeable group who buy into the Bertie Booster's, charlatan in charge, message and are pigs in shit happy. Some of them have a similar lack of moral scruples and give hardly a damn about anyone else or the future for others. They obviously don’t care about ‘their ‘ country They don’t. They seem to have become all snowflakey and delicate because things aren’t quite working out the way they hoped. Maybe they feel that it easier to accept being a snowflake than admit that you are gullible?yes because we are all traitors and racist uneducated riffraff or wait wonder who used to post that a few years back ? Probably an open non judgmental poster lol A traitor is someone who wilfully takes an action that they know will damage their country. 17.4 million people need to work out if they are traitors or if they are just gullible. As for the oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits - they all voted for Brexit. But that doesn’t mean that all. Brexiters are oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits. " Not sure a vote in a referendum is classed as a traitorous act especially as its the government that endorsed it in the first place | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy. I truly think that there is a sizeable group who buy into the Bertie Booster's, charlatan in charge, message and are pigs in shit happy. Some of them have a similar lack of moral scruples and give hardly a damn about anyone else or the future for others. They obviously don’t care about ‘their ‘ country They don’t. They seem to have become all snowflakey and delicate because things aren’t quite working out the way they hoped. Maybe they feel that it easier to accept being a snowflake than admit that you are gullible?yes because we are all traitors and racist uneducated riffraff or wait wonder who used to post that a few years back ? Probably an open non judgmental poster lol A traitor is someone who wilfully takes an action that they know will damage their country. 17.4 million people need to work out if they are traitors or if they are just gullible. As for the oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits - they all voted for Brexit. But that doesn’t mean that all. Brexiters are oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits. " My my you are so bitter are you gina miller in disguise? | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy. I truly think that there is a sizeable group who buy into the Bertie Booster's, charlatan in charge, message and are pigs in shit happy. Some of them have a similar lack of moral scruples and give hardly a damn about anyone else or the future for others. They obviously don’t care about ‘their ‘ country They don’t. They seem to have become all snowflakey and delicate because things aren’t quite working out the way they hoped. Maybe they feel that it easier to accept being a snowflake than admit that you are gullible?yes because we are all traitors and racist uneducated riffraff or wait wonder who used to post that a few years back ? Probably an open non judgmental poster lol A traitor is someone who wilfully takes an action that they know will damage their country. 17.4 million people need to work out if they are traitors or if they are just gullible. As for the oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits - they all voted for Brexit. But that doesn’t mean that all. Brexiters are oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits. My my you are so bitter are you gina miller in disguise? "Why don't you believe in the rule of law? | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy. I truly think that there is a sizeable group who buy into the Bertie Booster's, charlatan in charge, message and are pigs in shit happy. Some of them have a similar lack of moral scruples and give hardly a damn about anyone else or the future for others. They obviously don’t care about ‘their ‘ country They don’t. They seem to have become all snowflakey and delicate because things aren’t quite working out the way they hoped. Maybe they feel that it easier to accept being a snowflake than admit that you are gullible?yes because we are all traitors and racist uneducated riffraff or wait wonder who used to post that a few years back ? Probably an open non judgmental poster lol A traitor is someone who wilfully takes an action that they know will damage their country. 17.4 million people need to work out if they are traitors or if they are just gullible. As for the oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits - they all voted for Brexit. But that doesn’t mean that all. Brexiters are oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits. My my you are so bitter are you gina miller in disguise?
Why don't you believe in the rule of law?"Yes of course i do thats why im questioning someone calling 17.4 million people traitors. It seems to me some over the last few years have become more and more bitter and all this hatred is not good, would anyone during the referendum have even thought that someone who voted the other way was a traitor,oik,riff raff or racist fuckwit? I doubt it but it seems to me that the remain camp have turned into fanatics and thats how terrorists start out. | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy. I truly think that there is a sizeable group who buy into the Bertie Booster's, charlatan in charge, message and are pigs in shit happy. Some of them have a similar lack of moral scruples and give hardly a damn about anyone else or the future for others. They obviously don’t care about ‘their ‘ country They don’t. They seem to have become all snowflakey and delicate because things aren’t quite working out the way they hoped. Maybe they feel that it easier to accept being a snowflake than admit that you are gullible?yes because we are all traitors and racist uneducated riffraff or wait wonder who used to post that a few years back ? Probably an open non judgmental poster lol A traitor is someone who wilfully takes an action that they know will damage their country. 17.4 million people need to work out if they are traitors or if they are just gullible. As for the oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits - they all voted for Brexit. But that doesn’t mean that all. Brexiters are oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits. My my you are so bitter are you gina miller in disguise?
Why don't you believe in the rule of law?Yes of course i do thats why im questioning someone calling 17.4 million people traitors.
It seems to me some over the last few years have become more and more bitter and all this hatred is not good, would anyone during the referendum have even thought that someone who voted the other way was a traitor,oik,riff raff or racist fuckwit? I doubt it but it seems to me that the remain camp have turned into fanatics and thats how terrorists start out.
"Please don't play the "angry card", it was literally the brexit play book, lovingly crafted by Farage in the style of brannon. If you believe in the rule of law you should be applauding Ms Miller, who made the government follow the rule of law, rather than throwing your lot in with a government which is now planning legislation to "correct judges decisions" see Raab for details. | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy. I truly think that there is a sizeable group who buy into the Bertie Booster's, charlatan in charge, message and are pigs in shit happy. Some of them have a similar lack of moral scruples and give hardly a damn about anyone else or the future for others. They obviously don’t care about ‘their ‘ country They don’t. They seem to have become all snowflakey and delicate because things aren’t quite working out the way they hoped. Maybe they feel that it easier to accept being a snowflake than admit that you are gullible?yes because we are all traitors and racist uneducated riffraff or wait wonder who used to post that a few years back ? Probably an open non judgmental poster lol A traitor is someone who wilfully takes an action that they know will damage their country. 17.4 million people need to work out if they are traitors or if they are just gullible. As for the oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits - they all voted for Brexit. But that doesn’t mean that all. Brexiters are oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits. My my you are so bitter are you gina miller in disguise?
Why don't you believe in the rule of law?Yes of course i do thats why im questioning someone calling 17.4 million people traitors.
It seems to me some over the last few years have become more and more bitter and all this hatred is not good, would anyone during the referendum have even thought that someone who voted the other way was a traitor,oik,riff raff or racist fuckwit? I doubt it but it seems to me that the remain camp have turned into fanatics and thats how terrorists start out.
Please don't play the "angry card", it was literally the brexit play book, lovingly crafted by Farage in the style of brannon.
If you believe in the rule of law you should be applauding Ms Miller, who made the government follow the rule of law, rather than throwing your lot in with a government which is now planning legislation to "correct judges decisions" see Raab for details."I can only go by what i read and can only call it as i see it.A very angry person calling leavers names, i just wonder if any in that list voted to remain in his mind? | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy. I truly think that there is a sizeable group who buy into the Bertie Booster's, charlatan in charge, message and are pigs in shit happy. Some of them have a similar lack of moral scruples and give hardly a damn about anyone else or the future for others. They obviously don’t care about ‘their ‘ country They don’t. They seem to have become all snowflakey and delicate because things aren’t quite working out the way they hoped. Maybe they feel that it easier to accept being a snowflake than admit that you are gullible?yes because we are all traitors and racist uneducated riffraff or wait wonder who used to post that a few years back ? Probably an open non judgmental poster lol A traitor is someone who wilfully takes an action that they know will damage their country. 17.4 million people need to work out if they are traitors or if they are just gullible. As for the oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits - they all voted for Brexit. But that doesn’t mean that all. Brexiters are oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits. My my you are so bitter are you gina miller in disguise?
Why don't you believe in the rule of law?Yes of course i do thats why im questioning someone calling 17.4 million people traitors.
It seems to me some over the last few years have become more and more bitter and all this hatred is not good, would anyone during the referendum have even thought that someone who voted the other way was a traitor,oik,riff raff or racist fuckwit? I doubt it but it seems to me that the remain camp have turned into fanatics and thats how terrorists start out.
Please don't play the "angry card", it was literally the brexit play book, lovingly crafted by Farage in the style of brannon.
If you believe in the rule of law you should be applauding Ms Miller, who made the government follow the rule of law, rather than throwing your lot in with a government which is now planning legislation to "correct judges decisions" see Raab for details.I can only go by what i read and can only call it as i see it.A very angry person calling leavers names, i just wonder if any in that list voted to remain in his mind?"I've asked you several questions on these threads, each and every time you dodge the subject. On this thread you say you believe in the rule of law, and as a result you question the language used by some. The two are not in any way connected. You say you believe in the rule of law, yet remain strangely quiet at being told that the government plans "to correct" judges decisions. Try harder, stop flim-flamming like a snake oil salesman. | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy. I truly think that there is a sizeable group who buy into the Bertie Booster's, charlatan in charge, message and are pigs in shit happy. Some of them have a similar lack of moral scruples and give hardly a damn about anyone else or the future for others. They obviously don’t care about ‘their ‘ country They don’t. They seem to have become all snowflakey and delicate because things aren’t quite working out the way they hoped. Maybe they feel that it easier to accept being a snowflake than admit that you are gullible?yes because we are all traitors and racist uneducated riffraff or wait wonder who used to post that a few years back ? Probably an open non judgmental poster lol A traitor is someone who wilfully takes an action that they know will damage their country. 17.4 million people need to work out if they are traitors or if they are just gullible. As for the oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits - they all voted for Brexit. But that doesn’t mean that all. Brexiters are oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits. My my you are so bitter are you gina miller in disguise?
Why don't you believe in the rule of law?Yes of course i do thats why im questioning someone calling 17.4 million people traitors.
It seems to me some over the last few years have become more and more bitter and all this hatred is not good, would anyone during the referendum have even thought that someone who voted the other way was a traitor,oik,riff raff or racist fuckwit? I doubt it but it seems to me that the remain camp have turned into fanatics and thats how terrorists start out.
Please don't play the "angry card", it was literally the brexit play book, lovingly crafted by Farage in the style of brannon.
If you believe in the rule of law you should be applauding Ms Miller, who made the government follow the rule of law, rather than throwing your lot in with a government which is now planning legislation to "correct judges decisions" see Raab for details.I can only go by what i read and can only call it as i see it.A very angry person calling leavers names, i just wonder if any in that list voted to remain in his mind?"Calling people names is silly. But if you're not angry at brexit, you're not paying attention. | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy. I truly think that there is a sizeable group who buy into the Bertie Booster's, charlatan in charge, message and are pigs in shit happy. Some of them have a similar lack of moral scruples and give hardly a damn about anyone else or the future for others. They obviously don’t care about ‘their ‘ country They don’t. They seem to have become all snowflakey and delicate because things aren’t quite working out the way they hoped. Maybe they feel that it easier to accept being a snowflake than admit that you are gullible?yes because we are all traitors and racist uneducated riffraff or wait wonder who used to post that a few years back ? Probably an open non judgmental poster lol A traitor is someone who wilfully takes an action that they know will damage their country. 17.4 million people need to work out if they are traitors or if they are just gullible. As for the oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits - they all voted for Brexit. But that doesn’t mean that all. Brexiters are oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits. My my you are so bitter are you gina miller in disguise?
Why don't you believe in the rule of law?Yes of course i do thats why im questioning someone calling 17.4 million people traitors.
It seems to me some over the last few years have become more and more bitter and all this hatred is not good, would anyone during the referendum have even thought that someone who voted the other way was a traitor,oik,riff raff or racist fuckwit? I doubt it but it seems to me that the remain camp have turned into fanatics and thats how terrorists start out.
"I believe rightly or wrongly that you cannot commit treason by voting in either a referendum or GE especially as the state asked you to do it. Some may disagree with your vote and feel for the countries sake you should have voted differently but in the eyes of the law it's perfectly legal | |||
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"The decision has been made and no amount of carping about it in these forums or blaming everything going on in the UK on Brexit is going to change that. Get over it and move on " We can move on once the government acknowledge that there are issues and agree that we should try to fix them. We're stuck with the overall situation but it's forbidden for anyone in some kind of charge to admit that there's anything wrong. Nobody in their right mind wants it to be the car crash it's turned into, but until the senior people own up to the sunlit uplands not existing they won't make any effort to solve the problems they have created. | |||
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"The decision has been made and no amount of carping about it in these forums or blaming everything going on in the UK on Brexit is going to change that. Get over it and move on " Discourse is good. Telling people they shouldn't express concern, or be critical of the government, or over brexit is not good. What's the other option anyway, pretend that everything is fine, ignore the reality of brexit? If some people can maybe consider the impact of their vote, maybe we won't shoot ourselves in the foot again. (I hold very little hope of this actually happening, but hey! Ha) | |||
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"The decision has been made and no amount of carping about it in these forums or blaming everything going on in the UK on Brexit is going to change that. Get over it and move on We can move on once the government acknowledge that there are issues and agree that we should try to fix them. We're stuck with the overall situation but it's forbidden for anyone in some kind of charge to admit that there's anything wrong. Nobody in their right mind wants it to be the car crash it's turned into, but until the senior people own up to the sunlit uplands not existing they won't make any effort to solve the problems they have created. " The GE is around the corner if you really want to send a message to the senior people, do not play the game and say NO, until you solve the problems you have created I will not legitimise the problems that you create. Either way nobody had a gun pointed at there head forcing them to Vote in Brexit. Pop quiz.... if nobody I mean nobody registered for the Brexit vote to go ahead, it would not of.  | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy. I truly think that there is a sizeable group who buy into the Bertie Booster's, charlatan in charge, message and are pigs in shit happy. Some of them have a similar lack of moral scruples and give hardly a damn about anyone else or the future for others. They obviously don’t care about ‘their ‘ country They don’t. They seem to have become all snowflakey and delicate because things aren’t quite working out the way they hoped. Maybe they feel that it easier to accept being a snowflake than admit that you are gullible?yes because we are all traitors and racist uneducated riffraff or wait wonder who used to post that a few years back ? Probably an open non judgmental poster lol A traitor is someone who wilfully takes an action that they know will damage their country. 17.4 million people need to work out if they are traitors or if they are just gullible. As for the oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits - they all voted for Brexit. But that doesn’t mean that all. Brexiters are oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits. My my you are so bitter are you gina miller in disguise?
Why don't you believe in the rule of law?Yes of course i do thats why im questioning someone calling 17.4 million people traitors.
It seems to me some over the last few years have become more and more bitter and all this hatred is not good, would anyone during the referendum have even thought that someone who voted the other way was a traitor,oik,riff raff or racist fuckwit? I doubt it but it seems to me that the remain camp have turned into fanatics and thats how terrorists start out.
Please don't play the "angry card", it was literally the brexit play book, lovingly crafted by Farage in the style of brannon.
If you believe in the rule of law you should be applauding Ms Miller, who made the government follow the rule of law, rather than throwing your lot in with a government which is now planning legislation to "correct judges decisions" see Raab for details.I can only go by what i read and can only call it as i see it.A very angry person calling leavers names, i just wonder if any in that list voted to remain in his mind?
I've asked you several questions on these threads, each and every time you dodge the subject.
On this thread you say you believe in the rule of law, and as a result you question the language used by some. The two are not in any way connected.
You say you believe in the rule of law, yet remain strangely quiet at being told that the government plans "to correct" judges decisions.
Try harder, stop flim-flamming like a snake oil salesman."Can you repeat these questions as i have obviously missed them as for your statement about the governments plans to correct judges decisions i have not got a clue what you are on about any chance of being a bit more specific? | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy. I truly think that there is a sizeable group who buy into the Bertie Booster's, charlatan in charge, message and are pigs in shit happy. Some of them have a similar lack of moral scruples and give hardly a damn about anyone else or the future for others. They obviously don’t care about ‘their ‘ country They don’t. They seem to have become all snowflakey and delicate because things aren’t quite working out the way they hoped. Maybe they feel that it easier to accept being a snowflake than admit that you are gullible?yes because we are all traitors and racist uneducated riffraff or wait wonder who used to post that a few years back ? Probably an open non judgmental poster lol A traitor is someone who wilfully takes an action that they know will damage their country. 17.4 million people need to work out if they are traitors or if they are just gullible. As for the oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits - they all voted for Brexit. But that doesn’t mean that all. Brexiters are oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits. My my you are so bitter are you gina miller in disguise?
Why don't you believe in the rule of law?Yes of course i do thats why im questioning someone calling 17.4 million people traitors.
It seems to me some over the last few years have become more and more bitter and all this hatred is not good, would anyone during the referendum have even thought that someone who voted the other way was a traitor,oik,riff raff or racist fuckwit? I doubt it but it seems to me that the remain camp have turned into fanatics and thats how terrorists start out.
Please don't play the "angry card", it was literally the brexit play book, lovingly crafted by Farage in the style of brannon.
If you believe in the rule of law you should be applauding Ms Miller, who made the government follow the rule of law, rather than throwing your lot in with a government which is now planning legislation to "correct judges decisions" see Raab for details.I can only go by what i read and can only call it as i see it.A very angry person calling leavers names, i just wonder if any in that list voted to remain in his mind?
I've asked you several questions on these threads, each and every time you dodge the subject.
On this thread you say you believe in the rule of law, and as a result you question the language used by some. The two are not in any way connected.
You say you believe in the rule of law, yet remain strangely quiet at being told that the government plans "to correct" judges decisions.
Try harder, stop flim-flamming like a snake oil salesman.Can you repeat these questions as i have obviously missed them as for your statement about the governments plans to correct judges decisions i have not got a clue what you are on about any chance of being a bit more specific? "One of the questions was "do you actually read the posts" Your reply answers that. Alternatively you just choose to hide from awkward questions. Raab has made statements that the government is looking at legislation to correct judges decisions. Here's a snippet from the telegraph "The Justice Secretary says he is devising a way to allow the Government to introduce legislation to 'correct' court judgments" It's been well reported. Now crack on, that snake oil won't sell itself. | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy. I truly think that there is a sizeable group who buy into the Bertie Booster's, charlatan in charge, message and are pigs in shit happy. Some of them have a similar lack of moral scruples and give hardly a damn about anyone else or the future for others. They obviously don’t care about ‘their ‘ country They don’t. They seem to have become all snowflakey and delicate because things aren’t quite working out the way they hoped. Maybe they feel that it easier to accept being a snowflake than admit that you are gullible?yes because we are all traitors and racist uneducated riffraff or wait wonder who used to post that a few years back ? Probably an open non judgmental poster lol A traitor is someone who wilfully takes an action that they know will damage their country. 17.4 million people need to work out if they are traitors or if they are just gullible. As for the oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits - they all voted for Brexit. But that doesn’t mean that all. Brexiters are oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits. My my you are so bitter are you gina miller in disguise?
Why don't you believe in the rule of law?Yes of course i do thats why im questioning someone calling 17.4 million people traitors.
It seems to me some over the last few years have become more and more bitter and all this hatred is not good, would anyone during the referendum have even thought that someone who voted the other way was a traitor,oik,riff raff or racist fuckwit? I doubt it but it seems to me that the remain camp have turned into fanatics and thats how terrorists start out.
Please don't play the "angry card", it was literally the brexit play book, lovingly crafted by Farage in the style of brannon.
If you believe in the rule of law you should be applauding Ms Miller, who made the government follow the rule of law, rather than throwing your lot in with a government which is now planning legislation to "correct judges decisions" see Raab for details.I can only go by what i read and can only call it as i see it.A very angry person calling leavers names, i just wonder if any in that list voted to remain in his mind?
I've asked you several questions on these threads, each and every time you dodge the subject.
On this thread you say you believe in the rule of law, and as a result you question the language used by some. The two are not in any way connected.
You say you believe in the rule of law, yet remain strangely quiet at being told that the government plans "to correct" judges decisions.
Try harder, stop flim-flamming like a snake oil salesman.Can you repeat these questions as i have obviously missed them as for your statement about the governments plans to correct judges decisions i have not got a clue what you are on about any chance of being a bit more specific?
One of the questions was "do you actually read the posts"
Your reply answers that.
Alternatively you just choose to hide from awkward questions.
Raab has made statements that the government is looking at legislation to correct judges decisions.
Here's a snippet from the telegraph
"The Justice Secretary says he is devising a way to allow the Government to introduce legislation to 'correct' court judgments"
It's been well reported.
Now crack on, that snake oil won't sell itself."You can stop with the insults it does not improve your debating position !st you really want me to answer a question such as "do you read posts" 
As for that report i have not read it and if its true would have to get it through the HOC anyway. As for "correct court judgements" what is meant by that ? surely the government introduce laws and judges implement them. | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy. I truly think that there is a sizeable group who buy into the Bertie Booster's, charlatan in charge, message and are pigs in shit happy. Some of them have a similar lack of moral scruples and give hardly a damn about anyone else or the future for others. They obviously don’t care about ‘their ‘ country They don’t. They seem to have become all snowflakey and delicate because things aren’t quite working out the way they hoped. Maybe they feel that it easier to accept being a snowflake than admit that you are gullible?yes because we are all traitors and racist uneducated riffraff or wait wonder who used to post that a few years back ? Probably an open non judgmental poster lol A traitor is someone who wilfully takes an action that they know will damage their country. 17.4 million people need to work out if they are traitors or if they are just gullible. As for the oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits - they all voted for Brexit. But that doesn’t mean that all. Brexiters are oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits. My my you are so bitter are you gina miller in disguise?
Why don't you believe in the rule of law?Yes of course i do thats why im questioning someone calling 17.4 million people traitors.
It seems to me some over the last few years have become more and more bitter and all this hatred is not good, would anyone during the referendum have even thought that someone who voted the other way was a traitor,oik,riff raff or racist fuckwit? I doubt it but it seems to me that the remain camp have turned into fanatics and thats how terrorists start out.
Please don't play the "angry card", it was literally the brexit play book, lovingly crafted by Farage in the style of brannon.
If you believe in the rule of law you should be applauding Ms Miller, who made the government follow the rule of law, rather than throwing your lot in with a government which is now planning legislation to "correct judges decisions" see Raab for details.I can only go by what i read and can only call it as i see it.A very angry person calling leavers names, i just wonder if any in that list voted to remain in his mind?
I've asked you several questions on these threads, each and every time you dodge the subject.
On this thread you say you believe in the rule of law, and as a result you question the language used by some. The two are not in any way connected.
You say you believe in the rule of law, yet remain strangely quiet at being told that the government plans "to correct" judges decisions.
Try harder, stop flim-flamming like a snake oil salesman.Can you repeat these questions as i have obviously missed them as for your statement about the governments plans to correct judges decisions i have not got a clue what you are on about any chance of being a bit more specific?
One of the questions was "do you actually read the posts"
Your reply answers that.
Alternatively you just choose to hide from awkward questions.
Raab has made statements that the government is looking at legislation to correct judges decisions.
Here's a snippet from the telegraph
"The Justice Secretary says he is devising a way to allow the Government to introduce legislation to 'correct' court judgments"
It's been well reported.
Now crack on, that snake oil won't sell itself. You can stop with the insults it does not improve your debating position !st you really want me to answer a question such as "do you read posts"
As for that report i have not read it and if its true would have to get it through the HOC anyway. As for "correct court judgements" what is meant by that ? surely the government introduce laws and judges implement them."Ah your "harsh words" defence Have a hug, you'll feel better. Do you think that a government is going to have any troubles in getting a bill through parliament ( that is a question in case you were wondering)? No judges do not simply implement legislation, their job is to ensure that the government doesn't exceed it's powers ( hence Gina Miller has to bounce the government into the high court ) and to interpret the legislation to ensure it doesn't violate other areas of the law. Do you think there should be no restraints on a government elected by less than 50% of the population ( another question )? | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy. I truly think that there is a sizeable group who buy into the Bertie Booster's, charlatan in charge, message and are pigs in shit happy. Some of them have a similar lack of moral scruples and give hardly a damn about anyone else or the future for others. They obviously don’t care about ‘their ‘ country They don’t. They seem to have become all snowflakey and delicate because things aren’t quite working out the way they hoped. Maybe they feel that it easier to accept being a snowflake than admit that you are gullible?yes because we are all traitors and racist uneducated riffraff or wait wonder who used to post that a few years back ? Probably an open non judgmental poster lol A traitor is someone who wilfully takes an action that they know will damage their country. 17.4 million people need to work out if they are traitors or if they are just gullible. As for the oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits - they all voted for Brexit. But that doesn’t mean that all. Brexiters are oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits. My my you are so bitter are you gina miller in disguise?
Why don't you believe in the rule of law?Yes of course i do thats why im questioning someone calling 17.4 million people traitors.
It seems to me some over the last few years have become more and more bitter and all this hatred is not good, would anyone during the referendum have even thought that someone who voted the other way was a traitor,oik,riff raff or racist fuckwit? I doubt it but it seems to me that the remain camp have turned into fanatics and thats how terrorists start out.
Please don't play the "angry card", it was literally the brexit play book, lovingly crafted by Farage in the style of brannon.
If you believe in the rule of law you should be applauding Ms Miller, who made the government follow the rule of law, rather than throwing your lot in with a government which is now planning legislation to "correct judges decisions" see Raab for details.I can only go by what i read and can only call it as i see it.A very angry person calling leavers names, i just wonder if any in that list voted to remain in his mind?
I've asked you several questions on these threads, each and every time you dodge the subject.
On this thread you say you believe in the rule of law, and as a result you question the language used by some. The two are not in any way connected.
You say you believe in the rule of law, yet remain strangely quiet at being told that the government plans "to correct" judges decisions.
Try harder, stop flim-flamming like a snake oil salesman.Can you repeat these questions as i have obviously missed them as for your statement about the governments plans to correct judges decisions i have not got a clue what you are on about any chance of being a bit more specific?
One of the questions was "do you actually read the posts"
Your reply answers that.
Alternatively you just choose to hide from awkward questions.
Raab has made statements that the government is looking at legislation to correct judges decisions.
Here's a snippet from the telegraph
"The Justice Secretary says he is devising a way to allow the Government to introduce legislation to 'correct' court judgments"
It's been well reported.
Now crack on, that snake oil won't sell itself. You can stop with the insults it does not improve your debating position !st you really want me to answer a question such as "do you read posts"
As for that report i have not read it and if its true would have to get it through the HOC anyway. As for "correct court judgements" what is meant by that ? surely the government introduce laws and judges implement them.
Ah your "harsh words" defence
Have a hug, you'll feel better.
Do you think that a government is going to have any troubles in getting a bill through parliament ( that is a question in case you were wondering)?
No judges do not simply implement legislation, their job is to ensure that the government doesn't exceed it's powers ( hence Gina Miller has to bounce the government into the high court ) and to interpret the legislation to ensure it doesn't violate other areas of the law.
Do you think there should be no restraints on a government elected by less than 50% of the population ( another question )?"no i dont and thanks to another poster i now know what you are on about,its a pity you could not have explained instead. So after reading that i would say i agree with David Davis there is no place for it and would imagine a lot of other mp,s on both sides will be too.Lets see how far this one goes. | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy. I truly think that there is a sizeable group who buy into the Bertie Booster's, charlatan in charge, message and are pigs in shit happy. Some of them have a similar lack of moral scruples and give hardly a damn about anyone else or the future for others. They obviously don’t care about ‘their ‘ country They don’t. They seem to have become all snowflakey and delicate because things aren’t quite working out the way they hoped. Maybe they feel that it easier to accept being a snowflake than admit that you are gullible?yes because we are all traitors and racist uneducated riffraff or wait wonder who used to post that a few years back ? Probably an open non judgmental poster lol A traitor is someone who wilfully takes an action that they know will damage their country. 17.4 million people need to work out if they are traitors or if they are just gullible. As for the oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits - they all voted for Brexit. But that doesn’t mean that all. Brexiters are oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits. My my you are so bitter are you gina miller in disguise?
Why don't you believe in the rule of law?Yes of course i do thats why im questioning someone calling 17.4 million people traitors.
It seems to me some over the last few years have become more and more bitter and all this hatred is not good, would anyone during the referendum have even thought that someone who voted the other way was a traitor,oik,riff raff or racist fuckwit? I doubt it but it seems to me that the remain camp have turned into fanatics and thats how terrorists start out.
Please don't play the "angry card", it was literally the brexit play book, lovingly crafted by Farage in the style of brannon.
If you believe in the rule of law you should be applauding Ms Miller, who made the government follow the rule of law, rather than throwing your lot in with a government which is now planning legislation to "correct judges decisions" see Raab for details.I can only go by what i read and can only call it as i see it.A very angry person calling leavers names, i just wonder if any in that list voted to remain in his mind?
I've asked you several questions on these threads, each and every time you dodge the subject.
On this thread you say you believe in the rule of law, and as a result you question the language used by some. The two are not in any way connected.
You say you believe in the rule of law, yet remain strangely quiet at being told that the government plans "to correct" judges decisions.
Try harder, stop flim-flamming like a snake oil salesman.Can you repeat these questions as i have obviously missed them as for your statement about the governments plans to correct judges decisions i have not got a clue what you are on about any chance of being a bit more specific?
One of the questions was "do you actually read the posts"
Your reply answers that.
Alternatively you just choose to hide from awkward questions.
Raab has made statements that the government is looking at legislation to correct judges decisions.
Here's a snippet from the telegraph
"The Justice Secretary says he is devising a way to allow the Government to introduce legislation to 'correct' court judgments"
It's been well reported.
Now crack on, that snake oil won't sell itself. You can stop with the insults it does not improve your debating position !st you really want me to answer a question such as "do you read posts"
As for that report i have not read it and if its true would have to get it through the HOC anyway. As for "correct court judgements" what is meant by that ? surely the government introduce laws and judges implement them.
Ah your "harsh words" defence
Have a hug, you'll feel better.
Do you think that a government is going to have any troubles in getting a bill through parliament ( that is a question in case you were wondering)?
No judges do not simply implement legislation, their job is to ensure that the government doesn't exceed it's powers ( hence Gina Miller has to bounce the government into the high court ) and to interpret the legislation to ensure it doesn't violate other areas of the law.
Do you think there should be no restraints on a government elected by less than 50% of the population ( another question )?no i dont and thanks to another poster i now know what you are on about,its a pity you could not have explained instead. So after reading that i would say i agree with David Davis there is no place for it and would imagine a lot of other mp,s on both sides will be too.Lets see how far this one goes. "You would prefer the government to be even less accountable than they are? | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy. I truly think that there is a sizeable group who buy into the Bertie Booster's, charlatan in charge, message and are pigs in shit happy. Some of them have a similar lack of moral scruples and give hardly a damn about anyone else or the future for others. They obviously don’t care about ‘their ‘ country They don’t. They seem to have become all snowflakey and delicate because things aren’t quite working out the way they hoped. Maybe they feel that it easier to accept being a snowflake than admit that you are gullible?yes because we are all traitors and racist uneducated riffraff or wait wonder who used to post that a few years back ? Probably an open non judgmental poster lol A traitor is someone who wilfully takes an action that they know will damage their country. 17.4 million people need to work out if they are traitors or if they are just gullible. As for the oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits - they all voted for Brexit. But that doesn’t mean that all. Brexiters are oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits. My my you are so bitter are you gina miller in disguise?
Why don't you believe in the rule of law?Yes of course i do thats why im questioning someone calling 17.4 million people traitors.
It seems to me some over the last few years have become more and more bitter and all this hatred is not good, would anyone during the referendum have even thought that someone who voted the other way was a traitor,oik,riff raff or racist fuckwit? I doubt it but it seems to me that the remain camp have turned into fanatics and thats how terrorists start out.
Please don't play the "angry card", it was literally the brexit play book, lovingly crafted by Farage in the style of brannon.
If you believe in the rule of law you should be applauding Ms Miller, who made the government follow the rule of law, rather than throwing your lot in with a government which is now planning legislation to "correct judges decisions" see Raab for details.I can only go by what i read and can only call it as i see it.A very angry person calling leavers names, i just wonder if any in that list voted to remain in his mind?
I've asked you several questions on these threads, each and every time you dodge the subject.
On this thread you say you believe in the rule of law, and as a result you question the language used by some. The two are not in any way connected.
You say you believe in the rule of law, yet remain strangely quiet at being told that the government plans "to correct" judges decisions.
Try harder, stop flim-flamming like a snake oil salesman.Can you repeat these questions as i have obviously missed them as for your statement about the governments plans to correct judges decisions i have not got a clue what you are on about any chance of being a bit more specific?
One of the questions was "do you actually read the posts"
Your reply answers that.
Alternatively you just choose to hide from awkward questions.
Raab has made statements that the government is looking at legislation to correct judges decisions.
Here's a snippet from the telegraph
"The Justice Secretary says he is devising a way to allow the Government to introduce legislation to 'correct' court judgments"
It's been well reported.
Now crack on, that snake oil won't sell itself. You can stop with the insults it does not improve your debating position !st you really want me to answer a question such as "do you read posts"
As for that report i have not read it and if its true would have to get it through the HOC anyway. As for "correct court judgements" what is meant by that ? surely the government introduce laws and judges implement them.
Ah your "harsh words" defence
Have a hug, you'll feel better.
Do you think that a government is going to have any troubles in getting a bill through parliament ( that is a question in case you were wondering)?
No judges do not simply implement legislation, their job is to ensure that the government doesn't exceed it's powers ( hence Gina Miller has to bounce the government into the high court ) and to interpret the legislation to ensure it doesn't violate other areas of the law.
Do you think there should be no restraints on a government elected by less than 50% of the population ( another question )?no i dont and thanks to another poster i now know what you are on about,its a pity you could not have explained instead. So after reading that i would say i agree with David Davis there is no place for it and would imagine a lot of other mp,s on both sides will be too.Lets see how far this one goes.
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy. I truly think that there is a sizeable group who buy into the Bertie Booster's, charlatan in charge, message and are pigs in shit happy. Some of them have a similar lack of moral scruples and give hardly a damn about anyone else or the future for others. They obviously don’t care about ‘their ‘ country They don’t. They seem to have become all snowflakey and delicate because things aren’t quite working out the way they hoped. Maybe they feel that it easier to accept being a snowflake than admit that you are gullible?yes because we are all traitors and racist uneducated riffraff or wait wonder who used to post that a few years back ? Probably an open non judgmental poster lol A traitor is someone who wilfully takes an action that they know will damage their country. 17.4 million people need to work out if they are traitors or if they are just gullible. As for the oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits - they all voted for Brexit. But that doesn’t mean that all. Brexiters are oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits. My my you are so bitter are you gina miller in disguise?
Why don't you believe in the rule of law?Yes of course i do thats why im questioning someone calling 17.4 million people traitors.
It seems to me some over the last few years have become more and more bitter and all this hatred is not good, would anyone during the referendum have even thought that someone who voted the other way was a traitor,oik,riff raff or racist fuckwit? I doubt it but it seems to me that the remain camp have turned into fanatics and thats how terrorists start out.
Please don't play the "angry card", it was literally the brexit play book, lovingly crafted by Farage in the style of brannon.
If you believe in the rule of law you should be applauding Ms Miller, who made the government follow the rule of law, rather than throwing your lot in with a government which is now planning legislation to "correct judges decisions" see Raab for details.I can only go by what i read and can only call it as i see it.A very angry person calling leavers names, i just wonder if any in that list voted to remain in his mind?
I've asked you several questions on these threads, each and every time you dodge the subject.
On this thread you say you believe in the rule of law, and as a result you question the language used by some. The two are not in any way connected.
You say you believe in the rule of law, yet remain strangely quiet at being told that the government plans "to correct" judges decisions.
Try harder, stop flim-flamming like a snake oil salesman.Can you repeat these questions as i have obviously missed them as for your statement about the governments plans to correct judges decisions i have not got a clue what you are on about any chance of being a bit more specific?
One of the questions was "do you actually read the posts"
Your reply answers that.
Alternatively you just choose to hide from awkward questions.
Raab has made statements that the government is looking at legislation to correct judges decisions.
Here's a snippet from the telegraph
"The Justice Secretary says he is devising a way to allow the Government to introduce legislation to 'correct' court judgments"
It's been well reported.
Now crack on, that snake oil won't sell itself. You can stop with the insults it does not improve your debating position !st you really want me to answer a question such as "do you read posts"
As for that report i have not read it and if its true would have to get it through the HOC anyway. As for "correct court judgements" what is meant by that ? surely the government introduce laws and judges implement them.
Ah your "harsh words" defence
Have a hug, you'll feel better.
Do you think that a government is going to have any troubles in getting a bill through parliament ( that is a question in case you were wondering)?
No judges do not simply implement legislation, their job is to ensure that the government doesn't exceed it's powers ( hence Gina Miller has to bounce the government into the high court ) and to interpret the legislation to ensure it doesn't violate other areas of the law.
Do you think there should be no restraints on a government elected by less than 50% of the population ( another question )?no i dont and thanks to another poster i now know what you are on about,its a pity you could not have explained instead. So after reading that i would say i agree with David Davis there is no place for it and would imagine a lot of other mp,s on both sides will be too.Lets see how far this one goes.
You would prefer the government to be even less accountable than they are? did you read what he said? try reading the last sentence. "Oh. Lol. Fair enough. | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy. I truly think that there is a sizeable group who buy into the Bertie Booster's, charlatan in charge, message and are pigs in shit happy. Some of them have a similar lack of moral scruples and give hardly a damn about anyone else or the future for others. They obviously don’t care about ‘their ‘ country They don’t. They seem to have become all snowflakey and delicate because things aren’t quite working out the way they hoped. Maybe they feel that it easier to accept being a snowflake than admit that you are gullible?yes because we are all traitors and racist uneducated riffraff or wait wonder who used to post that a few years back ? Probably an open non judgmental poster lol A traitor is someone who wilfully takes an action that they know will damage their country. 17.4 million people need to work out if they are traitors or if they are just gullible. As for the oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits - they all voted for Brexit. But that doesn’t mean that all. Brexiters are oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits. My my you are so bitter are you gina miller in disguise?
Why don't you believe in the rule of law?Yes of course i do thats why im questioning someone calling 17.4 million people traitors.
It seems to me some over the last few years have become more and more bitter and all this hatred is not good, would anyone during the referendum have even thought that someone who voted the other way was a traitor,oik,riff raff or racist fuckwit? I doubt it but it seems to me that the remain camp have turned into fanatics and thats how terrorists start out.
Please don't play the "angry card", it was literally the brexit play book, lovingly crafted by Farage in the style of brannon.
If you believe in the rule of law you should be applauding Ms Miller, who made the government follow the rule of law, rather than throwing your lot in with a government which is now planning legislation to "correct judges decisions" see Raab for details.I can only go by what i read and can only call it as i see it.A very angry person calling leavers names, i just wonder if any in that list voted to remain in his mind?
I've asked you several questions on these threads, each and every time you dodge the subject.
On this thread you say you believe in the rule of law, and as a result you question the language used by some. The two are not in any way connected.
You say you believe in the rule of law, yet remain strangely quiet at being told that the government plans "to correct" judges decisions.
Try harder, stop flim-flamming like a snake oil salesman.Can you repeat these questions as i have obviously missed them as for your statement about the governments plans to correct judges decisions i have not got a clue what you are on about any chance of being a bit more specific?
One of the questions was "do you actually read the posts"
Your reply answers that.
Alternatively you just choose to hide from awkward questions.
Raab has made statements that the government is looking at legislation to correct judges decisions.
Here's a snippet from the telegraph
"The Justice Secretary says he is devising a way to allow the Government to introduce legislation to 'correct' court judgments"
It's been well reported.
Now crack on, that snake oil won't sell itself. You can stop with the insults it does not improve your debating position !st you really want me to answer a question such as "do you read posts"
As for that report i have not read it and if its true would have to get it through the HOC anyway. As for "correct court judgements" what is meant by that ? surely the government introduce laws and judges implement them.
Ah your "harsh words" defence
Have a hug, you'll feel better.
Do you think that a government is going to have any troubles in getting a bill through parliament ( that is a question in case you were wondering)?
No judges do not simply implement legislation, their job is to ensure that the government doesn't exceed it's powers ( hence Gina Miller has to bounce the government into the high court ) and to interpret the legislation to ensure it doesn't violate other areas of the law.
Do you think there should be no restraints on a government elected by less than 50% of the population ( another question )?no i dont and thanks to another poster i now know what you are on about,its a pity you could not have explained instead. So after reading that i would say i agree with David Davis there is no place for it and would imagine a lot of other mp,s on both sides will be too.Lets see how far this one goes. "I'm not here to teach you how to use Google. | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy. I truly think that there is a sizeable group who buy into the Bertie Booster's, charlatan in charge, message and are pigs in shit happy. Some of them have a similar lack of moral scruples and give hardly a damn about anyone else or the future for others. They obviously don’t care about ‘their ‘ country They don’t. They seem to have become all snowflakey and delicate because things aren’t quite working out the way they hoped. Maybe they feel that it easier to accept being a snowflake than admit that you are gullible?yes because we are all traitors and racist uneducated riffraff or wait wonder who used to post that a few years back ? Probably an open non judgmental poster lol A traitor is someone who wilfully takes an action that they know will damage their country. 17.4 million people need to work out if they are traitors or if they are just gullible. As for the oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits - they all voted for Brexit. But that doesn’t mean that all. Brexiters are oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits. My my you are so bitter are you gina miller in disguise?
Why don't you believe in the rule of law?Yes of course i do thats why im questioning someone calling 17.4 million people traitors.
It seems to me some over the last few years have become more and more bitter and all this hatred is not good, would anyone during the referendum have even thought that someone who voted the other way was a traitor,oik,riff raff or racist fuckwit? I doubt it but it seems to me that the remain camp have turned into fanatics and thats how terrorists start out.
Please don't play the "angry card", it was literally the brexit play book, lovingly crafted by Farage in the style of brannon.
If you believe in the rule of law you should be applauding Ms Miller, who made the government follow the rule of law, rather than throwing your lot in with a government which is now planning legislation to "correct judges decisions" see Raab for details.I can only go by what i read and can only call it as i see it.A very angry person calling leavers names, i just wonder if any in that list voted to remain in his mind?
I've asked you several questions on these threads, each and every time you dodge the subject.
On this thread you say you believe in the rule of law, and as a result you question the language used by some. The two are not in any way connected.
You say you believe in the rule of law, yet remain strangely quiet at being told that the government plans "to correct" judges decisions.
Try harder, stop flim-flamming like a snake oil salesman.Can you repeat these questions as i have obviously missed them as for your statement about the governments plans to correct judges decisions i have not got a clue what you are on about any chance of being a bit more specific?
One of the questions was "do you actually read the posts"
Your reply answers that.
Alternatively you just choose to hide from awkward questions.
Raab has made statements that the government is looking at legislation to correct judges decisions.
Here's a snippet from the telegraph
"The Justice Secretary says he is devising a way to allow the Government to introduce legislation to 'correct' court judgments"
It's been well reported.
Now crack on, that snake oil won't sell itself. You can stop with the insults it does not improve your debating position !st you really want me to answer a question such as "do you read posts"
As for that report i have not read it and if its true would have to get it through the HOC anyway. As for "correct court judgements" what is meant by that ? surely the government introduce laws and judges implement them.
Ah your "harsh words" defence
Have a hug, you'll feel better.
Do you think that a government is going to have any troubles in getting a bill through parliament ( that is a question in case you were wondering)?
No judges do not simply implement legislation, their job is to ensure that the government doesn't exceed it's powers ( hence Gina Miller has to bounce the government into the high court ) and to interpret the legislation to ensure it doesn't violate other areas of the law.
Do you think there should be no restraints on a government elected by less than 50% of the population ( another question )?no i dont and thanks to another poster i now know what you are on about,its a pity you could not have explained instead. So after reading that i would say i agree with David Davis there is no place for it and would imagine a lot of other mp,s on both sides will be too.Lets see how far this one goes.
I'm not here to teach you how to use Google."Again what is that supposed to mean? | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy. I truly think that there is a sizeable group who buy into the Bertie Booster's, charlatan in charge, message and are pigs in shit happy. Some of them have a similar lack of moral scruples and give hardly a damn about anyone else or the future for others. They obviously don’t care about ‘their ‘ country They don’t. They seem to have become all snowflakey and delicate because things aren’t quite working out the way they hoped. Maybe they feel that it easier to accept being a snowflake than admit that you are gullible?yes because we are all traitors and racist uneducated riffraff or wait wonder who used to post that a few years back ? Probably an open non judgmental poster lol A traitor is someone who wilfully takes an action that they know will damage their country. 17.4 million people need to work out if they are traitors or if they are just gullible. As for the oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits - they all voted for Brexit. But that doesn’t mean that all. Brexiters are oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits. My my you are so bitter are you gina miller in disguise?
Why don't you believe in the rule of law?Yes of course i do thats why im questioning someone calling 17.4 million people traitors.
It seems to me some over the last few years have become more and more bitter and all this hatred is not good, would anyone during the referendum have even thought that someone who voted the other way was a traitor,oik,riff raff or racist fuckwit? I doubt it but it seems to me that the remain camp have turned into fanatics and thats how terrorists start out.
Please don't play the "angry card", it was literally the brexit play book, lovingly crafted by Farage in the style of brannon.
If you believe in the rule of law you should be applauding Ms Miller, who made the government follow the rule of law, rather than throwing your lot in with a government which is now planning legislation to "correct judges decisions" see Raab for details.I can only go by what i read and can only call it as i see it.A very angry person calling leavers names, i just wonder if any in that list voted to remain in his mind?
I've asked you several questions on these threads, each and every time you dodge the subject.
On this thread you say you believe in the rule of law, and as a result you question the language used by some. The two are not in any way connected.
You say you believe in the rule of law, yet remain strangely quiet at being told that the government plans "to correct" judges decisions.
Try harder, stop flim-flamming like a snake oil salesman.Can you repeat these questions as i have obviously missed them as for your statement about the governments plans to correct judges decisions i have not got a clue what you are on about any chance of being a bit more specific?
One of the questions was "do you actually read the posts"
Your reply answers that.
Alternatively you just choose to hide from awkward questions.
Raab has made statements that the government is looking at legislation to correct judges decisions.
Here's a snippet from the telegraph
"The Justice Secretary says he is devising a way to allow the Government to introduce legislation to 'correct' court judgments"
It's been well reported.
Now crack on, that snake oil won't sell itself. You can stop with the insults it does not improve your debating position !st you really want me to answer a question such as "do you read posts"
As for that report i have not read it and if its true would have to get it through the HOC anyway. As for "correct court judgements" what is meant by that ? surely the government introduce laws and judges implement them.
Ah your "harsh words" defence
Have a hug, you'll feel better.
Do you think that a government is going to have any troubles in getting a bill through parliament ( that is a question in case you were wondering)?
No judges do not simply implement legislation, their job is to ensure that the government doesn't exceed it's powers ( hence Gina Miller has to bounce the government into the high court ) and to interpret the legislation to ensure it doesn't violate other areas of the law.
Do you think there should be no restraints on a government elected by less than 50% of the population ( another question )?no i dont and thanks to another poster i now know what you are on about,its a pity you could not have explained instead. So after reading that i would say i agree with David Davis there is no place for it and would imagine a lot of other mp,s on both sides will be too.Lets see how far this one goes.
I'm not here to teach you how to use Google.Again what is that supposed to mean?"I'm not here to improve your comprehension skills either | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy. I truly think that there is a sizeable group who buy into the Bertie Booster's, charlatan in charge, message and are pigs in shit happy. Some of them have a similar lack of moral scruples and give hardly a damn about anyone else or the future for others. They obviously don’t care about ‘their ‘ country They don’t. They seem to have become all snowflakey and delicate because things aren’t quite working out the way they hoped. Maybe they feel that it easier to accept being a snowflake than admit that you are gullible?yes because we are all traitors and racist uneducated riffraff or wait wonder who used to post that a few years back ? Probably an open non judgmental poster lol A traitor is someone who wilfully takes an action that they know will damage their country. 17.4 million people need to work out if they are traitors or if they are just gullible. As for the oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits - they all voted for Brexit. But that doesn’t mean that all. Brexiters are oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits. My my you are so bitter are you gina miller in disguise?
Why don't you believe in the rule of law?Yes of course i do thats why im questioning someone calling 17.4 million people traitors.
It seems to me some over the last few years have become more and more bitter and all this hatred is not good, would anyone during the referendum have even thought that someone who voted the other way was a traitor,oik,riff raff or racist fuckwit? I doubt it but it seems to me that the remain camp have turned into fanatics and thats how terrorists start out.
Please don't play the "angry card", it was literally the brexit play book, lovingly crafted by Farage in the style of brannon.
If you believe in the rule of law you should be applauding Ms Miller, who made the government follow the rule of law, rather than throwing your lot in with a government which is now planning legislation to "correct judges decisions" see Raab for details.I can only go by what i read and can only call it as i see it.A very angry person calling leavers names, i just wonder if any in that list voted to remain in his mind?
I've asked you several questions on these threads, each and every time you dodge the subject.
On this thread you say you believe in the rule of law, and as a result you question the language used by some. The two are not in any way connected.
You say you believe in the rule of law, yet remain strangely quiet at being told that the government plans "to correct" judges decisions.
Try harder, stop flim-flamming like a snake oil salesman.Can you repeat these questions as i have obviously missed them as for your statement about the governments plans to correct judges decisions i have not got a clue what you are on about any chance of being a bit more specific?
One of the questions was "do you actually read the posts"
Your reply answers that.
Alternatively you just choose to hide from awkward questions.
Raab has made statements that the government is looking at legislation to correct judges decisions.
Here's a snippet from the telegraph
"The Justice Secretary says he is devising a way to allow the Government to introduce legislation to 'correct' court judgments"
It's been well reported.
Now crack on, that snake oil won't sell itself. You can stop with the insults it does not improve your debating position !st you really want me to answer a question such as "do you read posts"
As for that report i have not read it and if its true would have to get it through the HOC anyway. As for "correct court judgements" what is meant by that ? surely the government introduce laws and judges implement them.
Ah your "harsh words" defence
Have a hug, you'll feel better.
Do you think that a government is going to have any troubles in getting a bill through parliament ( that is a question in case you were wondering)?
No judges do not simply implement legislation, their job is to ensure that the government doesn't exceed it's powers ( hence Gina Miller has to bounce the government into the high court ) and to interpret the legislation to ensure it doesn't violate other areas of the law.
Do you think there should be no restraints on a government elected by less than 50% of the population ( another question )?no i dont and thanks to another poster i now know what you are on about,its a pity you could not have explained instead. So after reading that i would say i agree with David Davis there is no place for it and would imagine a lot of other mp,s on both sides will be too.Lets see how far this one goes.
I'm not here to teach you how to use Google.Again what is that supposed to mean?
I'm not here to improve your comprehension skills either"Not here to debate like a grown adult either it seems. | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy. I truly think that there is a sizeable group who buy into the Bertie Booster's, charlatan in charge, message and are pigs in shit happy. Some of them have a similar lack of moral scruples and give hardly a damn about anyone else or the future for others. They obviously don’t care about ‘their ‘ country They don’t. They seem to have become all snowflakey and delicate because things aren’t quite working out the way they hoped. Maybe they feel that it easier to accept being a snowflake than admit that you are gullible?yes because we are all traitors and racist uneducated riffraff or wait wonder who used to post that a few years back ? Probably an open non judgmental poster lol A traitor is someone who wilfully takes an action that they know will damage their country. 17.4 million people need to work out if they are traitors or if they are just gullible. As for the oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits - they all voted for Brexit. But that doesn’t mean that all. Brexiters are oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits. " you are sounding a lot like an extremist like you wher a few years back mate do you actually have the balls to talk to your family and friends Lego voted leane like this ? | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy. I truly think that there is a sizeable group who buy into the Bertie Booster's, charlatan in charge, message and are pigs in shit happy. Some of them have a similar lack of moral scruples and give hardly a damn about anyone else or the future for others. They obviously don’t care about ‘their ‘ country They don’t. They seem to have become all snowflakey and delicate because things aren’t quite working out the way they hoped. Maybe they feel that it easier to accept being a snowflake than admit that you are gullible?yes because we are all traitors and racist uneducated riffraff or wait wonder who used to post that a few years back ? Probably an open non judgmental poster lol A traitor is someone who wilfully takes an action that they know will damage their country. 17.4 million people need to work out if they are traitors or if they are just gullible. As for the oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits - they all voted for Brexit. But that doesn’t mean that all. Brexiters are oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits. you are sounding a lot like an extremist like you wher a few years back mate do you actually have the balls to talk to your family and friends Lego voted leane like this ?" "Lego"? | |||
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"I have a solution... sudo apt uninstall brexit. "If only there was an "undo". Lol | |||
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"I have a solution... sudo apt uninstall brexit.
If only there was an "undo".
Lol"Roll back to an earlier kernel version. | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy. I truly think that there is a sizeable group who buy into the Bertie Booster's, charlatan in charge, message and are pigs in shit happy. Some of them have a similar lack of moral scruples and give hardly a damn about anyone else or the future for others. They obviously don’t care about ‘their ‘ country They don’t. They seem to have become all snowflakey and delicate because things aren’t quite working out the way they hoped. Maybe they feel that it easier to accept being a snowflake than admit that you are gullible?yes because we are all traitors and racist uneducated riffraff or wait wonder who used to post that a few years back ? Probably an open non judgmental poster lol A traitor is someone who wilfully takes an action that they know will damage their country. 17.4 million people need to work out if they are traitors or if they are just gullible. As for the oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits - they all voted for Brexit. But that doesn’t mean that all. Brexiters are oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits. you are sounding a lot like an extremist like you wher a few years back mate do you actually have the balls to talk to your family and friends Lego voted leane like this ? "Lego"?" pmsl LEGO not as bad as some of my spelling tho but ya get the jist lol | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy. I truly think that there is a sizeable group who buy into the Bertie Booster's, charlatan in charge, message and are pigs in shit happy. Some of them have a similar lack of moral scruples and give hardly a damn about anyone else or the future for others. They obviously don’t care about ‘their ‘ country They don’t. They seem to have become all snowflakey and delicate because things aren’t quite working out the way they hoped. Maybe they feel that it easier to accept being a snowflake than admit that you are gullible?yes because we are all traitors and racist uneducated riffraff or wait wonder who used to post that a few years back ? Probably an open non judgmental poster lol A traitor is someone who wilfully takes an action that they know will damage their country. 17.4 million people need to work out if they are traitors or if they are just gullible. As for the oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits - they all voted for Brexit. But that doesn’t mean that all. Brexiters are oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits. you are sounding a lot like an extremist like you wher a few years back mate do you actually have the balls to talk to your family and friends Lego voted leane like this ? "Lego"?pmsl LEGO not as bad as some of my spelling tho but ya get the jist lol" I honestly don't have a scooby what you mean | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy. I truly think that there is a sizeable group who buy into the Bertie Booster's, charlatan in charge, message and are pigs in shit happy. Some of them have a similar lack of moral scruples and give hardly a damn about anyone else or the future for others. They obviously don’t care about ‘their ‘ country They don’t. They seem to have become all snowflakey and delicate because things aren’t quite working out the way they hoped. Maybe they feel that it easier to accept being a snowflake than admit that you are gullible?yes because we are all traitors and racist uneducated riffraff or wait wonder who used to post that a few years back ? Probably an open non judgmental poster lol A traitor is someone who wilfully takes an action that they know will damage their country. 17.4 million people need to work out if they are traitors or if they are just gullible. As for the oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits - they all voted for Brexit. But that doesn’t mean that all. Brexiters are oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits. My my you are so bitter are you gina miller in disguise?
Why don't you believe in the rule of law?Yes of course i do thats why im questioning someone calling 17.4 million people traitors.
It seems to me some over the last few years have become more and more bitter and all this hatred is not good, would anyone during the referendum have even thought that someone who voted the other way was a traitor,oik,riff raff or racist fuckwit? I doubt it but it seems to me that the remain camp have turned into fanatics and thats how terrorists start out.
Please don't play the "angry card", it was literally the brexit play book, lovingly crafted by Farage in the style of brannon.
If you believe in the rule of law you should be applauding Ms Miller, who made the government follow the rule of law, rather than throwing your lot in with a government which is now planning legislation to "correct judges decisions" see Raab for details.I can only go by what i read and can only call it as i see it.A very angry person calling leavers names, i just wonder if any in that list voted to remain in his mind?
I've asked you several questions on these threads, each and every time you dodge the subject.
On this thread you say you believe in the rule of law, and as a result you question the language used by some. The two are not in any way connected.
You say you believe in the rule of law, yet remain strangely quiet at being told that the government plans "to correct" judges decisions.
Try harder, stop flim-flamming like a snake oil salesman.Can you repeat these questions as i have obviously missed them as for your statement about the governments plans to correct judges decisions i have not got a clue what you are on about any chance of being a bit more specific?
One of the questions was "do you actually read the posts"
Your reply answers that.
Alternatively you just choose to hide from awkward questions.
Raab has made statements that the government is looking at legislation to correct judges decisions.
Here's a snippet from the telegraph
"The Justice Secretary says he is devising a way to allow the Government to introduce legislation to 'correct' court judgments"
It's been well reported.
Now crack on, that snake oil won't sell itself. You can stop with the insults it does not improve your debating position !st you really want me to answer a question such as "do you read posts"
As for that report i have not read it and if its true would have to get it through the HOC anyway. As for "correct court judgements" what is meant by that ? surely the government introduce laws and judges implement them.
Ah your "harsh words" defence
Have a hug, you'll feel better.
Do you think that a government is going to have any troubles in getting a bill through parliament ( that is a question in case you were wondering)?
No judges do not simply implement legislation, their job is to ensure that the government doesn't exceed it's powers ( hence Gina Miller has to bounce the government into the high court ) and to interpret the legislation to ensure it doesn't violate other areas of the law.
Do you think there should be no restraints on a government elected by less than 50% of the population ( another question )?no i dont and thanks to another poster i now know what you are on about,its a pity you could not have explained instead. So after reading that i would say i agree with David Davis there is no place for it and would imagine a lot of other mp,s on both sides will be too.Lets see how far this one goes.
I'm not here to teach you how to use Google.Again what is that supposed to mean?
I'm not here to improve your comprehension skills either"Well if you dont care to debate like an adult i will just ignore your posts from now on.Enjoy school tomorrow. | |||
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"The history books will surely look back on this period with some degree of incredulity. 1) The Referendum - to win the referendum, the Leave side had to demonise our closest trading partners and enable xenophobes to crawl out from under the floorboards. No wonder now that our country is divided internally and disliked by the EU Members who we demonised. This is where the culture war originated. 2) The consequences. a) A financial hit twice that of the worst global pandemic in living memory for which we are now going to start paying for. If paying for the pandemic is costly - what are going to be paying (or losing) for something that is going to be twice as costly. The Chancellor relies on the OBR to formulate his budget - it’s pointless to say they can’t be trusted. b) A loss of standing and trust internationally. The great name of the United Kingdom has been severely tarnished as we head into a new era of ever more intense squabbles and disagreements with our neighbours. The current fishing issue with France being one example and that story still has legs because de-escalation is not in the Brexit dictionary. Why? Really, just why? Nothing good has come from this and anyone with any kind of common sense can see that nothing good will ever come from it." Sounds just the the lost argument of remain | |||
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"The history books will surely look back on this period with some degree of incredulity. 1) The Referendum - to win the referendum, the Leave side had to demonise our closest trading partners and enable xenophobes to crawl out from under the floorboards. No wonder now that our country is divided internally and disliked by the EU Members who we demonised. This is where the culture war originated. 2) The consequences. a) A financial hit twice that of the worst global pandemic in living memory for which we are now going to start paying for. If paying for the pandemic is costly - what are going to be paying (or losing) for something that is going to be twice as costly. The Chancellor relies on the OBR to formulate his budget - it’s pointless to say they can’t be trusted. b) A loss of standing and trust internationally. The great name of the United Kingdom has been severely tarnished as we head into a new era of ever more intense squabbles and disagreements with our neighbours. The current fishing issue with France being one example and that story still has legs because de-escalation is not in the Brexit dictionary. Why? Really, just why? Nothing good has come from this and anyone with any kind of common sense can see that nothing good will ever come from it. Sounds just the the lost argument of remain"
I've enjoyed the brexit banter since joining here. Who would have thought that the last stronghold of people who think brexit is a good idea is on a swingers site! Lol
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers Maybe some people actually care more about their country than they do about “winning” a stupid argument that has broken our country and is set to do even more damage in the coming years. Perhaps you think that the OBR are stupid “experts” who got it wrong? Well you had better have a word with the Government because it is they who use OBR forecasts to plan fiscal policy. I truly think that there is a sizeable group who buy into the Bertie Booster's, charlatan in charge, message and are pigs in shit happy. Some of them have a similar lack of moral scruples and give hardly a damn about anyone else or the future for others. They obviously don’t care about ‘their ‘ country They don’t. They seem to have become all snowflakey and delicate because things aren’t quite working out the way they hoped. Maybe they feel that it easier to accept being a snowflake than admit that you are gullible?yes because we are all traitors and racist uneducated riffraff or wait wonder who used to post that a few years back ? Probably an open non judgmental poster lol A traitor is someone who wilfully takes an action that they know will damage their country. 17.4 million people need to work out if they are traitors or if they are just gullible. As for the oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits - they all voted for Brexit. But that doesn’t mean that all. Brexiters are oiks, riff-raff and racist fuckwits. My my you are so bitter are you gina miller in disguise?
Why don't you believe in the rule of law?Yes of course i do thats why im questioning someone calling 17.4 million people traitors.
It seems to me some over the last few years have become more and more bitter and all this hatred is not good, would anyone during the referendum have even thought that someone who voted the other way was a traitor,oik,riff raff or racist fuckwit? I doubt it but it seems to me that the remain camp have turned into fanatics and thats how terrorists start out.
Please don't play the "angry card", it was literally the brexit play book, lovingly crafted by Farage in the style of brannon.
If you believe in the rule of law you should be applauding Ms Miller, who made the government follow the rule of law, rather than throwing your lot in with a government which is now planning legislation to "correct judges decisions" see Raab for details.I can only go by what i read and can only call it as i see it.A very angry person calling leavers names, i just wonder if any in that list voted to remain in his mind?
I've asked you several questions on these threads, each and every time you dodge the subject.
On this thread you say you believe in the rule of law, and as a result you question the language used by some. The two are not in any way connected.
You say you believe in the rule of law, yet remain strangely quiet at being told that the government plans "to correct" judges decisions.
Try harder, stop flim-flamming like a snake oil salesman.Can you repeat these questions as i have obviously missed them as for your statement about the governments plans to correct judges decisions i have not got a clue what you are on about any chance of being a bit more specific?
One of the questions was "do you actually read the posts"
Your reply answers that.
Alternatively you just choose to hide from awkward questions.
Raab has made statements that the government is looking at legislation to correct judges decisions.
Here's a snippet from the telegraph
"The Justice Secretary says he is devising a way to allow the Government to introduce legislation to 'correct' court judgments"
It's been well reported.
Now crack on, that snake oil won't sell itself. You can stop with the insults it does not improve your debating position !st you really want me to answer a question such as "do you read posts"
As for that report i have not read it and if its true would have to get it through the HOC anyway. As for "correct court judgements" what is meant by that ? surely the government introduce laws and judges implement them.
Ah your "harsh words" defence
Have a hug, you'll feel better.
Do you think that a government is going to have any troubles in getting a bill through parliament ( that is a question in case you were wondering)?
No judges do not simply implement legislation, their job is to ensure that the government doesn't exceed it's powers ( hence Gina Miller has to bounce the government into the high court ) and to interpret the legislation to ensure it doesn't violate other areas of the law.
Do you think there should be no restraints on a government elected by less than 50% of the population ( another question )?no i dont and thanks to another poster i now know what you are on about,its a pity you could not have explained instead. So after reading that i would say i agree with David Davis there is no place for it and would imagine a lot of other mp,s on both sides will be too.Lets see how far this one goes.
I'm not here to teach you how to use Google.Again what is that supposed to mean?
I'm not here to improve your comprehension skills eitherWell if you dont care to debate like an adult i will just ignore your posts from now on.Enjoy school tomorrow. "Love the way you think others can't debate, after the nonsense you have come out with, the way in which the points you attempt to make get taken down with evidence is a joy to behold. | |||
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"Complain all you want ,there was 3 votes to achieve brexit and you didn't win one " 3 votes? I must have missed the other 2. | |||
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"Brexit is such complicated area for people to comment on, but here goes. Brexit did not come about as a result of David Camerons referendum, it came about as a result of many people in the UK feeling that politicians were not listening to their concerns on many issues in their country, and a feeling of being left behind, these genuine concerns were blamed on the European Union by the right wing/Murdoch press who fed the public a diet of stories of barmy European politicians making rules for the UK. The reality of the situation was very different, the UK was arguably the second most powerful country in the Union and every law regulation etc had to be agreed and approved by the UK government who were a very powerful voice in the eu.many laws and regulations that came in to force on environmental standards, workers rights, free market, health and safety, security etc gave huge improvement to ordinary peoples lives. But regrettably many people are not aware of that instead sadly people bought into the brexiteer argument of taking back control and booster Boris slogans of money for the NHS etc, I sincerely hope that people who put their faith in Boris will be repaid, but I doubt it,the question I would ask myself is if how much I have in common with Boris, Jacob, Michael, Mr jcb,Mr weatherspoon,and the many wealthy backers of Brexit and is my interest as an ordinary citizen their priority, mmmmmm" Nicely put. All very sad but true. We have been mugged by the elite backers of Brexit. | |||
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"Complain all you want ,there was 3 votes to achieve brexit and you didn't win one " Shocking, if true. So it doesn't matter to you that brexit is making us poorer, putting British businesses under, putting people out of work, taking away opportunities from young people? As long as more people believed the propaganda and voted leave. That's the important thing eh! | |||
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"Brexit is such complicated area for people to comment on, but here goes. Brexit did not come about as a result of David Camerons referendum, it came about as a result of many people in the UK feeling that politicians were not listening to their concerns on many issues in their country, and a feeling of being left behind, these genuine concerns were blamed on the European Union by the right wing/Murdoch press who fed the public a diet of stories of barmy European politicians making rules for the UK. The reality of the situation was very different, the UK was arguably the second most powerful country in the Union and every law regulation etc had to be agreed and approved by the UK government who were a very powerful voice in the eu.many laws and regulations that came in to force on environmental standards, workers rights, free market, health and safety, security etc gave huge improvement to ordinary peoples lives. But regrettably many people are not aware of that instead sadly people bought into the brexiteer argument of taking back control and booster Boris slogans of money for the NHS etc, I sincerely hope that people who put their faith in Boris will be repaid, but I doubt it,the question I would ask myself is if how much I have in common with Boris, Jacob, Michael, Mr jcb,Mr weatherspoon,and the many wealthy backers of Brexit and is my interest as an ordinary citizen their priority, mmmmmm" Spot on | |||
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"Brexit is such complicated area for people to comment on, but here goes. Brexit did not come about as a result of David Camerons referendum, it came about as a result of many people in the UK feeling that politicians were not listening to their concerns on many issues in their country, and a feeling of being left behind, these genuine concerns were blamed on the European Union by the right wing/Murdoch press who fed the public a diet of stories of barmy European politicians making rules for the UK. The reality of the situation was very different, the UK was arguably the second most powerful country in the Union and every law regulation etc had to be agreed and approved by the UK government who were a very powerful voice in the eu.many laws and regulations that came in to force on environmental standards, workers rights, free market, health and safety, security etc gave huge improvement to ordinary peoples lives. But regrettably many people are not aware of that instead sadly people bought into the brexiteer argument of taking back control and booster Boris slogans of money for the NHS etc, I sincerely hope that people who put their faith in Boris will be repaid, but I doubt it,the question I would ask myself is if how much I have in common with Boris, Jacob, Michael, Mr jcb,Mr weatherspoon,and the many wealthy backers of Brexit and is my interest as an ordinary citizen their priority, mmmmmm" | |||
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"Complain all you want ,there was 3 votes to achieve brexit and you didn't win one Shocking, if true. So it doesn't matter to you that brexit is making us poorer, putting British businesses under, putting people out of work, taking away opportunities from young people? As long as more people believed the propaganda and voted leave. That's the important thing eh! are more people actually out of work due to brexit tho I’m to too sure of that People have lost their jobs, businesses have closed. " is unemployment down due to brexit tho ? | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers " So what are the positive aspects of brexit to date ? | |||
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"Complain all you want ,there was 3 votes to achieve brexit and you didn't win one Shocking, if true. So it doesn't matter to you that brexit is making us poorer, putting British businesses under, putting people out of work, taking away opportunities from young people? As long as more people believed the propaganda and voted leave. That's the important thing eh! are more people actually out of work due to brexit tho I’m to too sure of that People have lost their jobs, businesses have closed. is unemployment down due to brexit tho ?" unemployement is down because we are out of lockdown well documented in press dealing with ecconomic issues i believe | |||
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"Complain all you want ,there was 3 votes to achieve brexit and you didn't win one Shocking, if true. So it doesn't matter to you that brexit is making us poorer, putting British businesses under, putting people out of work, taking away opportunities from young people? As long as more people believed the propaganda and voted leave. That's the important thing eh! are more people actually out of work due to brexit tho I’m to too sure of that People have lost their jobs, businesses have closed. is unemployment down due to brexit tho ?" Unemployment is up and down. There is a huge shortage of workers in certain industries, like produce picking and lorry driving. Not sure that's much comfort for the people put out of work by brexit though. | |||
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"It’s just another moan about brexit again nothing new just sour remainers So what are the positive aspects of brexit to date ?" Sex workers in Kent are doing well with the increased number of truck drivers waiting in the giant cat parks. | |||
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"Complain all you want ,there was 3 votes to achieve brexit and you didn't win one 3 votes? I must have missed the other 2. " Vote 1 ,tories/Cameron vote for me and I will let you vote on European membership, he got in on the back of that , vote 2 the brexit vote , vote 3 the tories again said vote for us and we will get brexit done , the liberals explicitly said vote for us and we will reverse brexit . Labour said vote for us and you can vote on the deal . So you had 3 chances and every time brexit won | |||
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"Complain all you want ,there was 3 votes to achieve brexit and you didn't win one 3 votes? I must have missed the other 2. Vote 1 ,tories/Cameron vote for me and I will let you vote on European membership, he got in on the back of that , vote 2 the brexit vote , vote 3 the tories again said vote for us and we will get brexit done , the liberals explicitly said vote for us and we will reverse brexit . Labour said vote for us and you can vote on the deal . So you had 3 chances and every time brexit won " Can you remind me, what percentage of people voted for the tories at the last election? Thanks | |||
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"Complain all you want ,there was 3 votes to achieve brexit and you didn't win one 3 votes? I must have missed the other 2. Vote 1 ,tories/Cameron vote for me and I will let you vote on European membership, he got in on the back of that , vote 2 the brexit vote , vote 3 the tories again said vote for us and we will get brexit done , the liberals explicitly said vote for us and we will reverse brexit . Labour said vote for us and you can vote on the deal . So you had 3 chances and every time brexit won " So brexit is a good idea because people voted for it? Despite the reality of brexit being a huge turd. Amazing. | |||
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"Complain all you want ,there was 3 votes to achieve brexit and you didn't win one 3 votes? I must have missed the other 2. Vote 1 ,tories/Cameron vote for me and I will let you vote on European membership, he got in on the back of that , vote 2 the brexit vote , vote 3 the tories again said vote for us and we will get brexit done , the liberals explicitly said vote for us and we will reverse brexit . Labour said vote for us and you can vote on the deal . So you had 3 chances and every time brexit won So brexit is a good idea because people voted for it? Despite the reality of brexit being a huge turd. So you admit you had 3 chances to stop it Amazing." | |||
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"Complain all you want ,there was 3 votes to achieve brexit and you didn't win one 3 votes? I must have missed the other 2. Vote 1 ,tories/Cameron vote for me and I will let you vote on European membership, he got in on the back of that , vote 2 the brexit vote , vote 3 the tories again said vote for us and we will get brexit done , the liberals explicitly said vote for us and we will reverse brexit . Labour said vote for us and you can vote on the deal . So you had 3 chances and every time brexit won So brexit is a good idea because people voted for it? Despite the reality of brexit being a huge turd. So you admit you had 3 chances to stop it Amazing." What? I'm not "admitting" anything. We're discussing the reality of brexit. Your argument seems to be that people were easily swayed by the propaganda. Which I agree with. But that doesn't transform the reality of brexit from a huge turd, into some kind of positive. | |||
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"Complain all you want ,there was 3 votes to achieve brexit and you didn't win one 3 votes? I must have missed the other 2. Vote 1 ,tories/Cameron vote for me and I will let you vote on European membership, he got in on the back of that , vote 2 the brexit vote , vote 3 the tories again said vote for us and we will get brexit done , the liberals explicitly said vote for us and we will reverse brexit . Labour said vote for us and you can vote on the deal . So you had 3 chances and every time brexit won So brexit is a good idea because people voted for it? Despite the reality of brexit being a huge turd. So you admit you had 3 chances to stop it Amazing. What? I'm not "admitting" anything. We're discussing the reality of brexit. Your argument seems to be that people were easily swayed by the propaganda. Which I agree with. But that doesn't transform the reality of brexit from a huge turd, into some kind of positive." Personally I'm over the moon we are out, you might want to be part of a group that hung back on buying vaccine to get a better deal, then turned around and told the manufacturer, we don't care if other countries paid top wack ,they may be at the front of the queue, we don't care give it to us first , absolute low life | |||
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"Complain all you want ,there was 3 votes to achieve brexit and you didn't win one 3 votes? I must have missed the other 2. Vote 1 ,tories/Cameron vote for me and I will let you vote on European membership, he got in on the back of that , vote 2 the brexit vote , vote 3 the tories again said vote for us and we will get brexit done , the liberals explicitly said vote for us and we will reverse brexit . Labour said vote for us and you can vote on the deal . So you had 3 chances and every time brexit won So brexit is a good idea because people voted for it? Despite the reality of brexit being a huge turd. So you admit you had 3 chances to stop it Amazing. What? I'm not "admitting" anything. We're discussing the reality of brexit. Your argument seems to be that people were easily swayed by the propaganda. Which I agree with. But that doesn't transform the reality of brexit from a huge turd, into some kind of positive. Personally I'm over the moon we are out, you might want to be part of a group that hung back on buying vaccine to get a better deal, then turned around and told the manufacturer, we don't care if other countries paid top wack ,they may be at the front of the queue, we don't care give it to us first , absolute low life " Lol Love that I've found the last stronghold of people who think brexit is a good idea.
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"Complain all you want ,there was 3 votes to achieve brexit and you didn't win one 3 votes? I must have missed the other 2. Vote 1 ,tories/Cameron vote for me and I will let you vote on European membership, he got in on the back of that , vote 2 the brexit vote , vote 3 the tories again said vote for us and we will get brexit done , the liberals explicitly said vote for us and we will reverse brexit . Labour said vote for us and you can vote on the deal . So you had 3 chances and every time brexit won So brexit is a good idea because people voted for it? Despite the reality of brexit being a huge turd. So you admit you had 3 chances to stop it Amazing. What? I'm not "admitting" anything. We're discussing the reality of brexit. Your argument seems to be that people were easily swayed by the propaganda. Which I agree with. But that doesn't transform the reality of brexit from a huge turd, into some kind of positive. Personally I'm over the moon we are out, you might want to be part of a group that hung back on buying vaccine to get a better deal, then turned around and told the manufacturer, we don't care if other countries paid top wack ,they may be at the front of the queue, we don't care give it to us first , absolute low life " Our vaccine roll out has nothing to do with Brexit,  | |||
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"Complain all you want ,there was 3 votes to achieve brexit and you didn't win one 3 votes? I must have missed the other 2. Vote 1 ,tories/Cameron vote for me and I will let you vote on European membership, he got in on the back of that , vote 2 the brexit vote , vote 3 the tories again said vote for us and we will get brexit done , the liberals explicitly said vote for us and we will reverse brexit . Labour said vote for us and you can vote on the deal . So you had 3 chances and every time brexit won So brexit is a good idea because people voted for it? Despite the reality of brexit being a huge turd. So you admit you had 3 chances to stop it Amazing. What? I'm not "admitting" anything. We're discussing the reality of brexit. Your argument seems to be that people were easily swayed by the propaganda. Which I agree with. But that doesn't transform the reality of brexit from a huge turd, into some kind of positive. Personally I'm over the moon we are out, you might want to be part of a group that hung back on buying vaccine to get a better deal, then turned around and told the manufacturer, we don't care if other countries paid top wack ,they may be at the front of the queue, we don't care give it to us first , absolute low life Our vaccine roll out has nothing to do with Brexit, "Did you actually read what I put | |||
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"Complain all you want ,there was 3 votes to achieve brexit and you didn't win one 3 votes? I must have missed the other 2. Vote 1 ,tories/Cameron vote for me and I will let you vote on European membership, he got in on the back of that , vote 2 the brexit vote , vote 3 the tories again said vote for us and we will get brexit done , the liberals explicitly said vote for us and we will reverse brexit . Labour said vote for us and you can vote on the deal . So you had 3 chances and every time brexit won So brexit is a good idea because people voted for it? Despite the reality of brexit being a huge turd. So you admit you had 3 chances to stop it Amazing. What? I'm not "admitting" anything. We're discussing the reality of brexit. Your argument seems to be that people were easily swayed by the propaganda. Which I agree with. But that doesn't transform the reality of brexit from a huge turd, into some kind of positive. Personally I'm over the moon we are out, you might want to be part of a group that hung back on buying vaccine to get a better deal, then turned around and told the manufacturer, we don't care if other countries paid top wack ,they may be at the front of the queue, we don't care give it to us first , absolute low life Lol Love that I've found the last stronghold of people who think brexit is a good idea.
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"Complain all you want ,there was 3 votes to achieve brexit and you didn't win one 3 votes? I must have missed the other 2. Vote 1 ,tories/Cameron vote for me and I will let you vote on European membership, he got in on the back of that , vote 2 the brexit vote , vote 3 the tories again said vote for us and we will get brexit done , the liberals explicitly said vote for us and we will reverse brexit . Labour said vote for us and you can vote on the deal . So you had 3 chances and every time brexit won So brexit is a good idea because people voted for it? Despite the reality of brexit being a huge turd. So you admit you had 3 chances to stop it Amazing. What? I'm not "admitting" anything. We're discussing the reality of brexit. Your argument seems to be that people were easily swayed by the propaganda. Which I agree with. But that doesn't transform the reality of brexit from a huge turd, into some kind of positive. Personally I'm over the moon we are out, you might want to be part of a group that hung back on buying vaccine to get a better deal, then turned around and told the manufacturer, we don't care if other countries paid top wack ,they may be at the front of the queue, we don't care give it to us first , absolute low life Our vaccine roll out has nothing to do with Brexit,
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"Complain all you want ,there was 3 votes to achieve brexit and you didn't win one 3 votes? I must have missed the other 2. Vote 1 ,tories/Cameron vote for me and I will let you vote on European membership, he got in on the back of that , vote 2 the brexit vote , vote 3 the tories again said vote for us and we will get brexit done , the liberals explicitly said vote for us and we will reverse brexit . Labour said vote for us and you can vote on the deal . So you had 3 chances and every time brexit won So brexit is a good idea because people voted for it? Despite the reality of brexit being a huge turd. So you admit you had 3 chances to stop it Amazing. What? I'm not "admitting" anything. We're discussing the reality of brexit. Your argument seems to be that people were easily swayed by the propaganda. Which I agree with. But that doesn't transform the reality of brexit from a huge turd, into some kind of positive. Personally I'm over the moon we are out, you might want to be part of a group that hung back on buying vaccine to get a better deal, then turned around and told the manufacturer, we don't care if other countries paid top wack ,they may be at the front of the queue, we don't care give it to us first , absolute low life Lol Love that I've found the last stronghold of people who think brexit is a good idea.
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Yes, how does what you have claimed benefit the UK? "People put give me one good thing about brexit I put ,I don't want to be part of a group that hangs back on buying vaccine to get a better deal,then turns around to the manufacturer and instructs them to give the eu the vaccine before the other countries (there were several) that bought the vaccine first . Now do you get it | |||
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"Complain all you want ,there was 3 votes to achieve brexit and you didn't win one 3 votes? I must have missed the other 2. Vote 1 ,tories/Cameron vote for me and I will let you vote on European membership, he got in on the back of that , vote 2 the brexit vote , vote 3 the tories again said vote for us and we will get brexit done , the liberals explicitly said vote for us and we will reverse brexit . Labour said vote for us and you can vote on the deal . So you had 3 chances and every time brexit won So brexit is a good idea because people voted for it? Despite the reality of brexit being a huge turd. So you admit you had 3 chances to stop it Amazing. What? I'm not "admitting" anything. We're discussing the reality of brexit. Your argument seems to be that people were easily swayed by the propaganda. Which I agree with. But that doesn't transform the reality of brexit from a huge turd, into some kind of positive. Personally I'm over the moon we are out, you might want to be part of a group that hung back on buying vaccine to get a better deal, then turned around and told the manufacturer, we don't care if other countries paid top wack ,they may be at the front of the queue, we don't care give it to us first , absolute low life Our vaccine roll out has nothing to do with Brexit,
Did you actually read what I put
Yes, how does what you have claimed benefit the UK?
People put give me one good thing about brexit
I put ,I don't want to be part of a group that hangs back on buying vaccine to get a better deal,then turns around to the manufacturer and instructs them to give the eu the vaccine before the other countries (there were several) that bought the vaccine first .
Now do you get it"Is that it? Your only claimed ‘benefit’ doesn’t actually benefit anyone in the UK, anymore ?? | |||
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"Complain all you want ,there was 3 votes to achieve brexit and you didn't win one 3 votes? I must have missed the other 2. Vote 1 ,tories/Cameron vote for me and I will let you vote on European membership, he got in on the back of that , vote 2 the brexit vote , vote 3 the tories again said vote for us and we will get brexit done , the liberals explicitly said vote for us and we will reverse brexit . Labour said vote for us and you can vote on the deal . So you had 3 chances and every time brexit won So brexit is a good idea because people voted for it? Despite the reality of brexit being a huge turd. So you admit you had 3 chances to stop it Amazing. What? I'm not "admitting" anything. We're discussing the reality of brexit. Your argument seems to be that people were easily swayed by the propaganda. Which I agree with. But that doesn't transform the reality of brexit from a huge turd, into some kind of positive. Personally I'm over the moon we are out, you might want to be part of a group that hung back on buying vaccine to get a better deal, then turned around and told the manufacturer, we don't care if other countries paid top wack ,they may be at the front of the queue, we don't care give it to us first , absolute low life Our vaccine roll out has nothing to do with Brexit,
Did you actually read what I put
Yes, how does what you have claimed benefit the UK?
People put give me one good thing about brexit
I put ,I don't want to be part of a group that hangs back on buying vaccine to get a better deal,then turns around to the manufacturer and instructs them to give the eu the vaccine before the other countries (there were several) that bought the vaccine first .
Now do you get it"How does you being confused about the vaccine roll out benefit the rest of the country, and what's this got to do with the huge brexit turd? | |||
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"Complain all you want ,there was 3 votes to achieve brexit and you didn't win one 3 votes? I must have missed the other 2. Vote 1 ,tories/Cameron vote for me and I will let you vote on European membership, he got in on the back of that , vote 2 the brexit vote , vote 3 the tories again said vote for us and we will get brexit done , the liberals explicitly said vote for us and we will reverse brexit . Labour said vote for us and you can vote on the deal . So you had 3 chances and every time brexit won So brexit is a good idea because people voted for it? Despite the reality of brexit being a huge turd. So you admit you had 3 chances to stop it Amazing. What? I'm not "admitting" anything. We're discussing the reality of brexit. Your argument seems to be that people were easily swayed by the propaganda. Which I agree with. But that doesn't transform the reality of brexit from a huge turd, into some kind of positive. Personally I'm over the moon we are out, you might want to be part of a group that hung back on buying vaccine to get a better deal, then turned around and told the manufacturer, we don't care if other countries paid top wack ,they may be at the front of the queue, we don't care give it to us first , absolute low life Our vaccine roll out has nothing to do with Brexit,
Did you actually read what I put
Yes, how does what you have claimed benefit the UK?
People put give me one good thing about brexit
I put ,I don't want to be part of a group that hangs back on buying vaccine to get a better deal,then turns around to the manufacturer and instructs them to give the eu the vaccine before the other countries (there were several) that bought the vaccine first .
Now do you get it
How does you being confused about the vaccine roll out benefit the rest of the country, and what's this got to do with the huge brexit turd? "I think he is trying to claim some type of moral outrage at the EU (not sure the reason) whilst also admitting to voting in this corrupt , incompetent government, interesting take | |||
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"Complain all you want ,there was 3 votes to achieve brexit and you didn't win one 3 votes? I must have missed the other 2. Vote 1 ,tories/Cameron vote for me and I will let you vote on European membership, he got in on the back of that , vote 2 the brexit vote , vote 3 the tories again said vote for us and we will get brexit done , the liberals explicitly said vote for us and we will reverse brexit . Labour said vote for us and you can vote on the deal . So you had 3 chances and every time brexit won So brexit is a good idea because people voted for it? Despite the reality of brexit being a huge turd. So you admit you had 3 chances to stop it Amazing. What? I'm not "admitting" anything. We're discussing the reality of brexit. Your argument seems to be that people were easily swayed by the propaganda. Which I agree with. But that doesn't transform the reality of brexit from a huge turd, into some kind of positive. Personally I'm over the moon we are out, you might want to be part of a group that hung back on buying vaccine to get a better deal, then turned around and told the manufacturer, we don't care if other countries paid top wack ,they may be at the front of the queue, we don't care give it to us first , absolute low life Our vaccine roll out has nothing to do with Brexit,
Did you actually read what I put
Yes, how does what you have claimed benefit the UK?
People put give me one good thing about brexit
I put ,I don't want to be part of a group that hangs back on buying vaccine to get a better deal,then turns around to the manufacturer and instructs them to give the eu the vaccine before the other countries (there were several) that bought the vaccine first .
Now do you get it
Is that it? Your only claimed ‘benefit’ doesn’t actually benefit anyone in the UK, anymore ??"Oh so that group has changed has it ? | |||
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"Complain all you want ,there was 3 votes to achieve brexit and you didn't win one 3 votes? I must have missed the other 2. Vote 1 ,tories/Cameron vote for me and I will let you vote on European membership, he got in on the back of that , vote 2 the brexit vote , vote 3 the tories again said vote for us and we will get brexit done , the liberals explicitly said vote for us and we will reverse brexit . Labour said vote for us and you can vote on the deal . So you had 3 chances and every time brexit won So brexit is a good idea because people voted for it? Despite the reality of brexit being a huge turd. So you admit you had 3 chances to stop it Amazing. What? I'm not "admitting" anything. We're discussing the reality of brexit. Your argument seems to be that people were easily swayed by the propaganda. Which I agree with. But that doesn't transform the reality of brexit from a huge turd, into some kind of positive. Personally I'm over the moon we are out, you might want to be part of a group that hung back on buying vaccine to get a better deal, then turned around and told the manufacturer, we don't care if other countries paid top wack ,they may be at the front of the queue, we don't care give it to us first , absolute low life Our vaccine roll out has nothing to do with Brexit,
Did you actually read what I put
Yes, how does what you have claimed benefit the UK?
People put give me one good thing about brexit
I put ,I don't want to be part of a group that hangs back on buying vaccine to get a better deal,then turns around to the manufacturer and instructs them to give the eu the vaccine before the other countries (there were several) that bought the vaccine first .
Now do you get it
Is that it? Your only claimed ‘benefit’ doesn’t actually benefit anyone in the UK, anymore ??
Oh so that group has changed has it ? "What? Did you vote for the Tories at the last GE? | |||
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"Complain all you want ,there was 3 votes to achieve brexit and you didn't win one 3 votes? I must have missed the other 2. Vote 1 ,tories/Cameron vote for me and I will let you vote on European membership, he got in on the back of that , vote 2 the brexit vote , vote 3 the tories again said vote for us and we will get brexit done , the liberals explicitly said vote for us and we will reverse brexit . Labour said vote for us and you can vote on the deal . So you had 3 chances and every time brexit won So brexit is a good idea because people voted for it? Despite the reality of brexit being a huge turd. So you admit you had 3 chances to stop it Amazing. What? I'm not "admitting" anything. We're discussing the reality of brexit. Your argument seems to be that people were easily swayed by the propaganda. Which I agree with. But that doesn't transform the reality of brexit from a huge turd, into some kind of positive. Personally I'm over the moon we are out, you might want to be part of a group that hung back on buying vaccine to get a better deal, then turned around and told the manufacturer, we don't care if other countries paid top wack ,they may be at the front of the queue, we don't care give it to us first , absolute low life Our vaccine roll out has nothing to do with Brexit,
Did you actually read what I put
Yes, how does what you have claimed benefit the UK?
People put give me one good thing about brexit
I put ,I don't want to be part of a group that hangs back on buying vaccine to get a better deal,then turns around to the manufacturer and instructs them to give the eu the vaccine before the other countries (there were several) that bought the vaccine first .
Now do you get it
Is that it? Your only claimed ‘benefit’ doesn’t actually benefit anyone in the UK, anymore ??
Oh so that group has changed has it ?
What? Did you vote for the Tories at the last GE? "What's voting for the tories at the last General election got to do with you . . | |||
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"Complain all you want ,there was 3 votes to achieve brexit and you didn't win one 3 votes? I must have missed the other 2. Vote 1 ,tories/Cameron vote for me and I will let you vote on European membership, he got in on the back of that , vote 2 the brexit vote , vote 3 the tories again said vote for us and we will get brexit done , the liberals explicitly said vote for us and we will reverse brexit . Labour said vote for us and you can vote on the deal . So you had 3 chances and every time brexit won So brexit is a good idea because people voted for it? Despite the reality of brexit being a huge turd. So you admit you had 3 chances to stop it Amazing. What? I'm not "admitting" anything. We're discussing the reality of brexit. Your argument seems to be that people were easily swayed by the propaganda. Which I agree with. But that doesn't transform the reality of brexit from a huge turd, into some kind of positive. Personally I'm over the moon we are out, you might want to be part of a group that hung back on buying vaccine to get a better deal, then turned around and told the manufacturer, we don't care if other countries paid top wack ,they may be at the front of the queue, we don't care give it to us first , absolute low life Our vaccine roll out has nothing to do with Brexit,
Did you actually read what I put
Yes, how does what you have claimed benefit the UK?
People put give me one good thing about brexit
I put ,I don't want to be part of a group that hangs back on buying vaccine to get a better deal,then turns around to the manufacturer and instructs them to give the eu the vaccine before the other countries (there were several) that bought the vaccine first .
Now do you get it
Is that it? Your only claimed ‘benefit’ doesn’t actually benefit anyone in the UK, anymore ??
Oh so that group has changed has it ?
What? Did you vote for the Tories at the last GE?
What's voting for the tories at the last General election got to do with you . .
"Because your claiming moral outage with the EU (not sure why) whilst voting in the most corrupt and incompetent government in living memory, hypocrisy. | |||
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"Complain all you want ,there was 3 votes to achieve brexit and you didn't win one 3 votes? I must have missed the other 2. Vote 1 ,tories/Cameron vote for me and I will let you vote on European membership, he got in on the back of that , vote 2 the brexit vote , vote 3 the tories again said vote for us and we will get brexit done , the liberals explicitly said vote for us and we will reverse brexit . Labour said vote for us and you can vote on the deal . So you had 3 chances and every time brexit won So brexit is a good idea because people voted for it? Despite the reality of brexit being a huge turd. So you admit you had 3 chances to stop it Amazing. What? I'm not "admitting" anything. We're discussing the reality of brexit. Your argument seems to be that people were easily swayed by the propaganda. Which I agree with. But that doesn't transform the reality of brexit from a huge turd, into some kind of positive. Personally I'm over the moon we are out, you might want to be part of a group that hung back on buying vaccine to get a better deal, then turned around and told the manufacturer, we don't care if other countries paid top wack ,they may be at the front of the queue, we don't care give it to us first , absolute low life Our vaccine roll out has nothing to do with Brexit,
Did you actually read what I put
Yes, how does what you have claimed benefit the UK?
People put give me one good thing about brexit
I put ,I don't want to be part of a group that hangs back on buying vaccine to get a better deal,then turns around to the manufacturer and instructs them to give the eu the vaccine before the other countries (there were several) that bought the vaccine first .
Now do you get it
Is that it? Your only claimed ‘benefit’ doesn’t actually benefit anyone in the UK, anymore ??
Oh so that group has changed has it ?
What? Did you vote for the Tories at the last GE?
What's voting for the tories at the last General election got to do with you . .
Because your claiming moral outage with the EU (not sure why) whilst voting in the most corrupt and incompetent government in living memory, hypocrisy. "You havent got a clue who I voted for , you don't even know if I actually voted . And the big thing is by voting I can contribute to the downfall of the tories at the next General election. I can look at the policies of all of the parties I vote according , you know vote who i want in power , that word vote keeps cropping up , | |||
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"Complain all you want ,there was 3 votes to achieve brexit and you didn't win one 3 votes? I must have missed the other 2. Vote 1 ,tories/Cameron vote for me and I will let you vote on European membership, he got in on the back of that , vote 2 the brexit vote , vote 3 the tories again said vote for us and we will get brexit done , the liberals explicitly said vote for us and we will reverse brexit . Labour said vote for us and you can vote on the deal . So you had 3 chances and every time brexit won So brexit is a good idea because people voted for it? Despite the reality of brexit being a huge turd. So you admit you had 3 chances to stop it Amazing. What? I'm not "admitting" anything. We're discussing the reality of brexit. Your argument seems to be that people were easily swayed by the propaganda. Which I agree with. But that doesn't transform the reality of brexit from a huge turd, into some kind of positive. Personally I'm over the moon we are out, you might want to be part of a group that hung back on buying vaccine to get a better deal, then turned around and told the manufacturer, we don't care if other countries paid top wack ,they may be at the front of the queue, we don't care give it to us first , absolute low life Our vaccine roll out has nothing to do with Brexit,
Did you actually read what I put
Yes, how does what you have claimed benefit the UK?
People put give me one good thing about brexit
I put ,I don't want to be part of a group that hangs back on buying vaccine to get a better deal,then turns around to the manufacturer and instructs them to give the eu the vaccine before the other countries (there were several) that bought the vaccine first .
Now do you get it
Is that it? Your only claimed ‘benefit’ doesn’t actually benefit anyone in the UK, anymore ??
Oh so that group has changed has it ?
What? Did you vote for the Tories at the last GE?
What's voting for the tories at the last General election got to do with you . .
Because your claiming moral outage with the EU (not sure why) whilst voting in the most corrupt and incompetent government in living memory, hypocrisy.
You havent got a clue who I voted for , you don't even know if I actually voted .
And the big thing is by voting I can contribute to the downfall of the tories at the next General election. I can look at the policies of all of the parties I vote according , you know vote who i want in power , that word vote keeps cropping up ,
"You keep contradicting yourself, your only Brexit benefit is some vague moral outrage regarding the vaccines (that didn’t benefit the UK) , you wanted Brexit done but didn’t vote for the Tories | |||
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"Complain all you want ,there was 3 votes to achieve brexit and you didn't win one 3 votes? I must have missed the other 2. Vote 1 ,tories/Cameron vote for me and I will let you vote on European membership, he got in on the back of that , vote 2 the brexit vote , vote 3 the tories again said vote for us and we will get brexit done , the liberals explicitly said vote for us and we will reverse brexit . Labour said vote for us and you can vote on the deal . So you had 3 chances and every time brexit won So brexit is a good idea because people voted for it? Despite the reality of brexit being a huge turd. So you admit you had 3 chances to stop it Amazing. What? I'm not "admitting" anything. We're discussing the reality of brexit. Your argument seems to be that people were easily swayed by the propaganda. Which I agree with. But that doesn't transform the reality of brexit from a huge turd, into some kind of positive. Personally I'm over the moon we are out, you might want to be part of a group that hung back on buying vaccine to get a better deal, then turned around and told the manufacturer, we don't care if other countries paid top wack ,they may be at the front of the queue, we don't care give it to us first , absolute low life Our vaccine roll out has nothing to do with Brexit,
Did you actually read what I put
Yes, how does what you have claimed benefit the UK?
People put give me one good thing about brexit
I put ,I don't want to be part of a group that hangs back on buying vaccine to get a better deal,then turns around to the manufacturer and instructs them to give the eu the vaccine before the other countries (there were several) that bought the vaccine first .
Now do you get it
Is that it? Your only claimed ‘benefit’ doesn’t actually benefit anyone in the UK, anymore ??
Oh so that group has changed has it ?
What? Did you vote for the Tories at the last GE?
What's voting for the tories at the last General election got to do with you . .
Because your claiming moral outage with the EU (not sure why) whilst voting in the most corrupt and incompetent government in living memory, hypocrisy.
You havent got a clue who I voted for , you don't even know if I actually voted .
And the big thing is by voting I can contribute to the downfall of the tories at the next General election. I can look at the policies of all of the parties I vote according , you know vote who i want in power , that word vote keeps cropping up ,
You keep contradicting yourself, your only Brexit benefit is some vague moral outrage regarding the vaccines (that didn’t benefit the UK) , you wanted Brexit done but didn’t vote for the Tories "I voted brexit is what I said . And you don't have a clue whether I even voted in the general election | |||
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"Complain all you want ,there was 3 votes to achieve brexit and you didn't win one 3 votes? I must have missed the other 2. Vote 1 ,tories/Cameron vote for me and I will let you vote on European membership, he got in on the back of that , vote 2 the brexit vote , vote 3 the tories again said vote for us and we will get brexit done , the liberals explicitly said vote for us and we will reverse brexit . Labour said vote for us and you can vote on the deal . So you had 3 chances and every time brexit won So brexit is a good idea because people voted for it? Despite the reality of brexit being a huge turd. So you admit you had 3 chances to stop it Amazing. What? I'm not "admitting" anything. We're discussing the reality of brexit. Your argument seems to be that people were easily swayed by the propaganda. Which I agree with. But that doesn't transform the reality of brexit from a huge turd, into some kind of positive. Personally I'm over the moon we are out, you might want to be part of a group that hung back on buying vaccine to get a better deal, then turned around and told the manufacturer, we don't care if other countries paid top wack ,they may be at the front of the queue, we don't care give it to us first , absolute low life Our vaccine roll out has nothing to do with Brexit,
Did you actually read what I put
Yes, how does what you have claimed benefit the UK?
People put give me one good thing about brexit
I put ,I don't want to be part of a group that hangs back on buying vaccine to get a better deal,then turns around to the manufacturer and instructs them to give the eu the vaccine before the other countries (there were several) that bought the vaccine first .
Now do you get it
Is that it? Your only claimed ‘benefit’ doesn’t actually benefit anyone in the UK, anymore ??
Oh so that group has changed has it ?
What? Did you vote for the Tories at the last GE?
What's voting for the tories at the last General election got to do with you . .
Because your claiming moral outage with the EU (not sure why) whilst voting in the most corrupt and incompetent government in living memory, hypocrisy.
You havent got a clue who I voted for , you don't even know if I actually voted .
And the big thing is by voting I can contribute to the downfall of the tories at the next General election. I can look at the policies of all of the parties I vote according , you know vote who i want in power , that word vote keeps cropping up ,
You keep contradicting yourself, your only Brexit benefit is some vague moral outrage regarding the vaccines (that didn’t benefit the UK) , you wanted Brexit done but didn’t vote for the Tories
I voted brexit is what I said .
And you don't have a clue whether I even voted in the general election "Your right, I haven’t got a clue, sounds like your to embarrassed to admit if or who you voted for, which makes sense | |||
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"Complain all you want ,there was 3 votes to achieve brexit and you didn't win one 3 votes? I must have missed the other 2. Vote 1 ,tories/Cameron vote for me and I will let you vote on European membership, he got in on the back of that , vote 2 the brexit vote , vote 3 the tories again said vote for us and we will get brexit done , the liberals explicitly said vote for us and we will reverse brexit . Labour said vote for us and you can vote on the deal . So you had 3 chances and every time brexit won So brexit is a good idea because people voted for it? Despite the reality of brexit being a huge turd. So you admit you had 3 chances to stop it Amazing. What? I'm not "admitting" anything. We're discussing the reality of brexit. Your argument seems to be that people were easily swayed by the propaganda. Which I agree with. But that doesn't transform the reality of brexit from a huge turd, into some kind of positive. Personally I'm over the moon we are out, you might want to be part of a group that hung back on buying vaccine to get a better deal, then turned around and told the manufacturer, we don't care if other countries paid top wack ,they may be at the front of the queue, we don't care give it to us first , absolute low life Our vaccine roll out has nothing to do with Brexit,
Did you actually read what I put
Yes, how does what you have claimed benefit the UK?
People put give me one good thing about brexit
I put ,I don't want to be part of a group that hangs back on buying vaccine to get a better deal,then turns around to the manufacturer and instructs them to give the eu the vaccine before the other countries (there were several) that bought the vaccine first .
Now do you get it
Is that it? Your only claimed ‘benefit’ doesn’t actually benefit anyone in the UK, anymore ??
Oh so that group has changed has it ?
What? Did you vote for the Tories at the last GE?
What's voting for the tories at the last General election got to do with you . .
Because your claiming moral outage with the EU (not sure why) whilst voting in the most corrupt and incompetent government in living memory, hypocrisy.
You havent got a clue who I voted for , you don't even know if I actually voted .
And the big thing is by voting I can contribute to the downfall of the tories at the next General election. I can look at the policies of all of the parties I vote according , you know vote who i want in power , that word vote keeps cropping up ,
You keep contradicting yourself, your only Brexit benefit is some vague moral outrage regarding the vaccines (that didn’t benefit the UK) , you wanted Brexit done but didn’t vote for the Tories
I voted brexit is what I said .
And you don't have a clue whether I even voted in the general election
Your right, I haven’t got a clue, sounds like your to embarrassed to admit if or who you voted for, which makes sense ". Sounds like you have gone off track and it's absolutely no one's business who I vote for not even someone that iv never met on a swingers site. Why the hell would i give out any private information to someone iv never met ,have no intention of meeting when I'm having that discussion on fab swingers. You can now have the last say . Because I'm sure you want to | |||
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"Complain all you want ,there was 3 votes to achieve brexit and you didn't win one " I know. A staggering number of people were conned into thinking that millionaire’s and billionaire’s had their best interest at heart. We are now on the downward slope towards higher taxes and more corrupt governance - because really, that is all Brexit can deliver. I am resigned to the oncoming slow motion train wreck because it is as obvious as it is inevitable. I can stand tall and say that I wasn’t fooled. Can you? | |||
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"The history books will surely look back on this period with some degree of incredulity. 1) The Referendum - to win the referendum, the Leave side had to demonise our closest trading partners and enable xenophobes to crawl out from under the floorboards. No wonder now that our country is divided internally and disliked by the EU Members who we demonised. This is where the culture war originated. 2) The consequences. a) A financial hit twice that of the worst global pandemic in living memory for which we are now going to start paying for. If paying for the pandemic is costly - what are going to be paying (or losing) for something that is going to be twice as costly. The Chancellor relies on the OBR to formulate his budget - it’s pointless to say they can’t be trusted. b) A loss of standing and trust internationally. The great name of the United Kingdom has been severely tarnished as we head into a new era of ever more intense squabbles and disagreements with our neighbours. The current fishing issue with France being one example and that story still has legs because de-escalation is not in the Brexit dictionary. Why? Really, just why? Nothing good has come from this and anyone with any kind of common sense can see that nothing good will ever come from it." The same EU that is going to give no help other than words to Poland as huge migrant camp masses on their border. Glad we're shot of that shambles. | |||
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"The history books will surely look back on this period with some degree of incredulity. 1) The Referendum - to win the referendum, the Leave side had to demonise our closest trading partners and enable xenophobes to crawl out from under the floorboards. No wonder now that our country is divided internally and disliked by the EU Members who we demonised. This is where the culture war originated. 2) The consequences. a) A financial hit twice that of the worst global pandemic in living memory for which we are now going to start paying for. If paying for the pandemic is costly - what are going to be paying (or losing) for something that is going to be twice as costly. The Chancellor relies on the OBR to formulate his budget - it’s pointless to say they can’t be trusted. b) A loss of standing and trust internationally. The great name of the United Kingdom has been severely tarnished as we head into a new era of ever more intense squabbles and disagreements with our neighbours. The current fishing issue with France being one example and that story still has legs because de-escalation is not in the Brexit dictionary. Why? Really, just why? Nothing good has come from this and anyone with any kind of common sense can see that nothing good will ever come from it. The same EU that is going to give no help other than words to Poland as huge migrant camp masses on their border. Glad we're shot of that shambles. " Peaky foreigners eh! 
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"Complain all you want ,there was 3 votes to achieve brexit and you didn't win one 3 votes? I must have missed the other 2. Vote 1 ,tories/Cameron vote for me and I will let you vote on European membership, he got in on the back of that , vote 2 the brexit vote , vote 3 the tories again said vote for us and we will get brexit done , the liberals explicitly said vote for us and we will reverse brexit . Labour said vote for us and you can vote on the deal . So you had 3 chances and every time brexit won So brexit is a good idea because people voted for it? Despite the reality of brexit being a huge turd. So you admit you had 3 chances to stop it Amazing. What? I'm not "admitting" anything. We're discussing the reality of brexit. Your argument seems to be that people were easily swayed by the propaganda. Which I agree with. But that doesn't transform the reality of brexit from a huge turd, into some kind of positive. Personally I'm over the moon we are out, you might want to be part of a group that hung back on buying vaccine to get a better deal, then turned around and told the manufacturer, we don't care if other countries paid top wack ,they may be at the front of the queue, we don't care give it to us first , absolute low life " A few factual inexactitudes in that | |||
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"The "foreigners out" and the "I don't like them Muslims" arguments are by far, the least entertaining brexit-is-a-good-idea arguments. " I never read those coments on this forum have you ? | |||
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The idea that speaking English as a first language should be a major factor in who we trade and work with, rather than who our nearest neighbours are, is so fucking cringe.
Just parody level little englander mentality.
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"Would prefer a union with places like New Zealand, Australia, or Canada. At least we can speak their languages and share common heritage. Here's hoping to a future 'commonwealth union'.
The idea that speaking English as a first language should be a major factor in who we trade and work with, rather than who our nearest neighbours are, is so fucking cringe.
Just parody level little englander mentality.
that’s why you lost the vote stupid comments like little englanders with shit like that you will always be the problem not the solution "Not really. Fantasy Exceptionalism was, is, and always will be a problem for this country. I am anticipating an ultimately brutal Brexit outcome and I think that maybe what will be needed to purge Exceptionalism from our collective psyche. Exceptionalism has been a drag on this country since the end of WW1. It was tested in WW2 and brought under the spotlight with Suez. Brexit however should be the final lance in the damaging boil. | |||
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The idea that speaking English as a first language should be a major factor in who we trade and work with, rather than who our nearest neighbours are, is so fucking cringe.
Just parody level little englander mentality.
that’s why you lost the vote stupid comments like little englanders with shit like that you will always be the problem not the solution "What? People voted for brexit because they didn't like being made fun of for thinking brexit was a good idea? | |||
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"The history books will surely look back on this period with some degree of incredulity. 1) The Referendum - to win the referendum, the Leave side had to demonise our closest trading partners and enable xenophobes to crawl out from under the floorboards. No wonder now that our country is divided internally and disliked by the EU Members who we demonised. This is where the culture war originated. 2) The consequences. a) A financial hit twice that of the worst global pandemic in living memory for which we are now going to start paying for. If paying for the pandemic is costly - what are going to be paying (or losing) for something that is going to be twice as costly. The Chancellor relies on the OBR to formulate his budget - it’s pointless to say they can’t be trusted. b) A loss of standing and trust internationally. The great name of the United Kingdom has been severely tarnished as we head into a new era of ever more intense squabbles and disagreements with our neighbours. The current fishing issue with France being one example and that story still has legs because de-escalation is not in the Brexit dictionary. Why? Really, just why? Nothing good has come from this and anyone with any kind of common sense can see that nothing good will ever come from it. The same EU that is going to give no help other than words to Poland as huge migrant camp masses on their border. Glad we're shot of that shambles. " Yes, it's a good job brexit put a stop to those migrants arriving in the UK ... Oh ..wait ... | |||
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"Would prefer a union with places like New Zealand, Australia, or Canada. At least we can speak their languages and share common heritage. Here's hoping to a future 'commonwealth union'.
The idea that speaking English as a first language should be a major factor in who we trade and work with, rather than who our nearest neighbours are, is so fucking cringe.
Just parody level little englander mentality.
that’s why you lost the vote stupid comments like little englanders with shit like that you will always be the problem not the solution
What?
People voted for brexit because they didn't like being made fun of for thinking brexit was a good idea?
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The idea that speaking English as a first language should be a major factor in who we trade and work with, rather than who our nearest neighbours are, is so fucking cringe.
Just parody level little englander mentality.
that’s why you lost the vote stupid comments like little englanders with shit like that you will always be the problem not the solution
What?
People voted for brexit because they didn't like being made fun of for thinking brexit was a good idea?
I know how dare they have a different t opinion to you they must all be simple racists lmao"WTF is going on? You're the one who said "that’s why you lost the vote stupid comments like little englanders with shit like that you will always be the problem not the solution" I asked to clarification. Where does this racism bollocks come from? | |||
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"Would prefer a union with places like New Zealand, Australia, or Canada. At least we can speak their languages and share common heritage. Here's hoping to a future 'commonwealth union'.
The idea that speaking English as a first language should be a major factor in who we trade and work with, rather than who our nearest neighbours are, is so fucking cringe.
Just parody level little englander mentality.
that’s why you lost the vote stupid comments like little englanders with shit like that you will always be the problem not the solution
What?
People voted for brexit because they didn't like being made fun of for thinking brexit was a good idea?
I know how dare they have a different t opinion to you they must all be simple racists lmao
WTF is going on? You're the one who said "that’s why you lost the vote stupid comments like little englanders with shit like that you will always be the problem not the solution"
I asked to clarification. Where does this racism bollocks come from?"no it’s not aimed at you it’s about these forums in general that’s how a lot of these threads end I’m not accusing you of stopping that low | |||
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The idea that speaking English as a first language should be a major factor in who we trade and work with, rather than who our nearest neighbours are, is so fucking cringe.
Just parody level little englander mentality.
that’s why you lost the vote stupid comments like little englanders with shit like that you will always be the problem not the solution
What?
People voted for brexit because they didn't like being made fun of for thinking brexit was a good idea?
I know how dare they have a different t opinion to you they must all be simple racists lmao
WTF is going on? You're the one who said "that’s why you lost the vote stupid comments like little englanders with shit like that you will always be the problem not the solution"
I asked to clarification. Where does this racism bollocks come from?no it’s not aimed at you it’s about these forums in general that’s how a lot of these threads end I’m not accusing you of stopping that low "Okay. And also. Personally, I don't really care why people think brexit is a good idea. The specific reason doesn't seem that important to me. So I didn't mean to get bogged down in a conversation about it. My bad. | |||
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"God i hope it breaks britain england n.ireland wales and scotland can all go there deperate ways.and everyone can blame there own goverments when things go tits up instead of blaming labour or the tories in westminster,it may make polticians try a bit harder if they dont have westinster to blame " What about then if Kernow wants independence from England? Should they too go their separate way? I mean not only are you talking about the total collapse of the United Kingdom in a casual way (which is staggering in itself), but the knock on from that could easily be the collapse of England… where will it ultimately end? Where would you want it to end? | |||
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"God i hope it breaks britain england n.ireland wales and scotland can all go there deperate ways.and everyone can blame there own goverments when things go tits up instead of blaming labour or the tories in westminster,it may make polticians try a bit harder if they dont have westinster to blame What about then if Kernow wants independence from England? Should they too go their separate way? I mean not only are you talking about the total collapse of the United Kingdom in a casual way (which is staggering in itself), but the knock on from that could easily be the collapse of England… where will it ultimately end? Where would you want it to end?" i thought the break up of g.b would suit people we are forever hearing on here how england fuck it up for n.ireland wales and scotland so all go our own ways and we can run our own countrys that way the buck stops with each individual country,and if you had actually been paying attention britain has been broke for years | |||
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"The decision has been made and no amount of carping about it in these forums or blaming everything going on in the UK on Brexit is going to change that. Get over it and move on " Exactly | |||
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"The decision has been made and no amount of carping about it in these forums or blaming everything going on in the UK on Brexit is going to change that. Get over it and move on Exactly "what has been done can easily be undone, it's simply a matter of when | |||
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"The decision has been made and no amount of carping about it in these forums or blaming everything going on in the UK on Brexit is going to change that. Get over it and move on Exactly
what has been done can easily be undone, it's simply a matter of when"lol you know fine well that no party would even discuss rejoining because they know it’s political suicid it will be more than a decade before it’s even mentioned amd by the who knows where the U.K. will be amd the eu | |||
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"The decision has been made and no amount of carping about it in these forums or blaming everything going on in the UK on Brexit is going to change that. Get over it and move on Exactly
what has been done can easily be undone, it's simply a matter of whenlol you know fine well that no party would even discuss rejoining because they know it’s political suicid it will be more than a decade before it’s even mentioned amd by the who knows where the U.K. will be amd the eu "Sadly on this I agree. I am very anti Brexit but we are where we are now. I do think it is perfectly acceptable to keep reminding everyone who wanted it about what a shitshow it is. However, I think the focus now needs to be on how to limit the damage. The vote was to leave the EU but there was no clear mandate for what that actually meant. That was the single biggest flaw. There should always have been a two step referendum: 1) Leave or Remain 2) If Leave then how do we leave and what form should our future relationship with the EU take? We need to explore EFTA for example. | |||
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what has been done can easily be undone, it's simply a matter of whenlol you know fine well that no party would even discuss rejoining because they know it’s political suicid it will be more than a decade before it’s even mentioned amd by the who knows where the U.K. will be amd the eu
Sadly on this I agree. I am very anti Brexit but we are where we are now. I do think it is perfectly acceptable to keep reminding everyone who wanted it about what a shitshow it is. However, I think the focus now needs to be on how to limit the damage.
The vote was to leave the EU but there was no clear mandate for what that actually meant. That was the single biggest flaw. There should always have been a two step referendum:
1) Leave or Remain
2) If Leave then how do we leave and what form should our future relationship with the EU take?
We need to explore EFTA for example."Interestingly, EFTA was an option floated by the leave campaign, but jettisoned soon after the referendum. My view has always been: 1. The question should never have been asked. Referenda are a lazy form of governance and the question itself was far too complicated to reduce to a simple 'yes' or 'no', never mind expecting Joe Public to understand the nuance of what leaving the E.U., would really mean. 2. Given that the vote indicated that the country was effectively split - i.e., 48/52% - there needed to be sensible compromise on what leave actually meant. I.e., somewhere in the middle of the extremes of both sides. For me this could have looked something like EFTA. What happened however was that people become too entrenched - one side wanting another referendum - which I didn't think was the best course of action - and another side basically wanting to leave without an agreement at all. Leave was never a destination, it was always a process - one that will take decades. However, so far there have been zero tangible benefits beyond not being charged to fly a particular flag on your mast, apparently. But there have been tangible losses in terms of GDP and other benefits - roaming, travel, introduction of red tape, fishing industry, bad trade deals for farmers etc..., Still, we are where we are. | |||
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"One direct consequence of the pandemic has been an unprecedented slump in the economy, which Ursula von der Leyen plans to counter with an equally unprecedented reconstruction program. Rolling out the €750 billion ($886 billion) recovery fund, which will be funded by joint debt for the first time, will be the focus of EU economic policy for some years to come. With a majority of EU citizens claiming to have suffered economic losses as a result of the pandemic, expectations of the EU and this recovery program are high. But it also carries risks, as member states will incur more debt and inflation will rise with higher demand. The debate about how to deal with this sharp increase in debt in all member states has already begun. they do have lots of other issues... grass greener thread!" Well, apart from the fact that the figures associated with the 'recovery fund' you mention (i.e., the UK's potential exposure to part of the costs should we have remained a member) would dwarf those associated with our loss of GDP, "bad things in/for the EU', are unlikely to ever be good for the UK, so long as the EU remains our closest and most significant trading partner. | |||
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"The decision has been made and no amount of carping about it in these forums or blaming everything going on in the UK on Brexit is going to change that. Get over it and move on Exactly
what has been done can easily be undone, it's simply a matter of whenlol you know fine well that no party would even discuss rejoining because they know it’s political suicid it will be more than a decade before it’s even mentioned amd by the who knows where the U.K. will be amd the eu "I agree, there is no way the EU would even consider letting us rejoin for at least 10 years, | |||
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"In a few years most will be saying why didn't we leave the EU years ago!" In a few years we will have left the EU years ago | |||
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"The decision has been made and no amount of carping about it in these forums or blaming everything going on in the UK on Brexit is going to change that. Get over it and move on Exactly
what has been done can easily be undone, it's simply a matter of whenlol you know fine well that no party would even discuss rejoining because they know it’s political suicid it will be more than a decade before it’s even mentioned amd by the who knows where the U.K. will be amd the eu
Sadly on this I agree. I am very anti Brexit but we are where we are now. I do think it is perfectly acceptable to keep reminding everyone who wanted it about what a shitshow it is. However, I think the focus now needs to be on how to limit the damage.
The vote was to leave the EU but there was no clear mandate for what that actually meant. That was the single biggest flaw. There should always have been a two step referendum:
1) Leave or Remain
2) If Leave then how do we leave and what form should our future relationship with the EU take?
We need to explore EFTA for example.
Interestingly, EFTA was an option floated by the leave campaign, but jettisoned soon after the referendum.
My view has always been:
1. The question should never have been asked. Referenda are a lazy form of governance and the question itself was far too complicated to reduce to a simple 'yes' or 'no', never mind expecting Joe Public to understand the nuance of what leaving the E.U., would really mean.
2. Given that the vote indicated that the country was effectively split - i.e., 48/52% - there needed to be sensible compromise on what leave actually meant. I.e., somewhere in the middle of the extremes of both sides. For me this could have looked something like EFTA.
What happened however was that people become too entrenched - one side wanting another referendum - which I didn't think was the best course of action - and another side basically wanting to leave without an agreement at all.
Leave was never a destination, it was always a process - one that will take decades. However, so far there have been zero tangible benefits beyond not being charged to fly a particular flag on your mast, apparently. But there have been tangible losses in terms of GDP and other benefits - roaming, travel, introduction of red tape, fishing industry, bad trade deals for farmers etc...,
Still, we are where we are. "I mentioned on another thread that I thought we would end up in EFTA or similar but after the referendum when T. May was PM. It did seem to be heading there at one point as a compromise. If the result had be the same percentage but with remain winning would the same compromise be offered | |||
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"The decision has been made and no amount of carping about it in these forums or blaming everything going on in the UK on Brexit is going to change that. Get over it and move on Exactly
what has been done can easily be undone, it's simply a matter of whenlol you know fine well that no party would even discuss rejoining because they know it’s political suicid it will be more than a decade before it’s even mentioned amd by the who knows where the U.K. will be amd the eu
Sadly on this I agree. I am very anti Brexit but we are where we are now. I do think it is perfectly acceptable to keep reminding everyone who wanted it about what a shitshow it is. However, I think the focus now needs to be on how to limit the damage.
The vote was to leave the EU but there was no clear mandate for what that actually meant. That was the single biggest flaw. There should always have been a two step referendum:
1) Leave or Remain
2) If Leave then how do we leave and what form should our future relationship with the EU take?
We need to explore EFTA for example.
Interestingly, EFTA was an option floated by the leave campaign, but jettisoned soon after the referendum.
My view has always been:
1. The question should never have been asked. Referenda are a lazy form of governance and the question itself was far too complicated to reduce to a simple 'yes' or 'no', never mind expecting Joe Public to understand the nuance of what leaving the E.U., would really mean.
2. Given that the vote indicated that the country was effectively split - i.e., 48/52% - there needed to be sensible compromise on what leave actually meant. I.e., somewhere in the middle of the extremes of both sides. For me this could have looked something like EFTA.
What happened however was that people become too entrenched - one side wanting another referendum - which I didn't think was the best course of action - and another side basically wanting to leave without an agreement at all.
Leave was never a destination, it was always a process - one that will take decades. However, so far there have been zero tangible benefits beyond not being charged to fly a particular flag on your mast, apparently. But there have been tangible losses in terms of GDP and other benefits - roaming, travel, introduction of red tape, fishing industry, bad trade deals for farmers etc...,
Still, we are where we are.
I mentioned on another thread that I thought we would end up in EFTA or similar but after the referendum when T. May was PM. It did seem to be heading there at one point as a compromise. If the result had be the same percentage but with remain winning would the same compromise be offered"Why is it a ‘compromise’? | |||
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"The decision has been made and no amount of carping about it in these forums or blaming everything going on in the UK on Brexit is going to change that. Get over it and move on Exactly
what has been done can easily be undone, it's simply a matter of whenlol you know fine well that no party would even discuss rejoining because they know it’s political suicid it will be more than a decade before it’s even mentioned amd by the who knows where the U.K. will be amd the eu
Sadly on this I agree. I am very anti Brexit but we are where we are now. I do think it is perfectly acceptable to keep reminding everyone who wanted it about what a shitshow it is. However, I think the focus now needs to be on how to limit the damage.
The vote was to leave the EU but there was no clear mandate for what that actually meant. That was the single biggest flaw. There should always have been a two step referendum:
1) Leave or Remain
2) If Leave then how do we leave and what form should our future relationship with the EU take?
We need to explore EFTA for example.
Interestingly, EFTA was an option floated by the leave campaign, but jettisoned soon after the referendum.
My view has always been:
1. The question should never have been asked. Referenda are a lazy form of governance and the question itself was far too complicated to reduce to a simple 'yes' or 'no', never mind expecting Joe Public to understand the nuance of what leaving the E.U., would really mean.
2. Given that the vote indicated that the country was effectively split - i.e., 48/52% - there needed to be sensible compromise on what leave actually meant. I.e., somewhere in the middle of the extremes of both sides. For me this could have looked something like EFTA.
What happened however was that people become too entrenched - one side wanting another referendum - which I didn't think was the best course of action - and another side basically wanting to leave without an agreement at all.
Leave was never a destination, it was always a process - one that will take decades. However, so far there have been zero tangible benefits beyond not being charged to fly a particular flag on your mast, apparently. But there have been tangible losses in terms of GDP and other benefits - roaming, travel, introduction of red tape, fishing industry, bad trade deals for farmers etc...,
Still, we are where we are.
I mentioned on another thread that I thought we would end up in EFTA or similar but after the referendum when T. May was PM. It did seem to be heading there at one point as a compromise. If the result had be the same percentage but with remain winning would the same compromise be offered
Why is it a ‘compromise’? "From what I recall EFTA was mentioned as a compromise as technically it's still brexit but without leaving things like the single market. I think it was EFTA or something similar. | |||
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"The decision has been made and no amount of carping about it in these forums or blaming everything going on in the UK on Brexit is going to change that. Get over it and move on Exactly
what has been done can easily be undone, it's simply a matter of whenlol you know fine well that no party would even discuss rejoining because they know it’s political suicid it will be more than a decade before it’s even mentioned amd by the who knows where the U.K. will be amd the eu
Sadly on this I agree. I am very anti Brexit but we are where we are now. I do think it is perfectly acceptable to keep reminding everyone who wanted it about what a shitshow it is. However, I think the focus now needs to be on how to limit the damage.
The vote was to leave the EU but there was no clear mandate for what that actually meant. That was the single biggest flaw. There should always have been a two step referendum:
1) Leave or Remain
2) If Leave then how do we leave and what form should our future relationship with the EU take?
We need to explore EFTA for example.
Interestingly, EFTA was an option floated by the leave campaign, but jettisoned soon after the referendum.
My view has always been:
1. The question should never have been asked. Referenda are a lazy form of governance and the question itself was far too complicated to reduce to a simple 'yes' or 'no', never mind expecting Joe Public to understand the nuance of what leaving the E.U., would really mean.
2. Given that the vote indicated that the country was effectively split - i.e., 48/52% - there needed to be sensible compromise on what leave actually meant. I.e., somewhere in the middle of the extremes of both sides. For me this could have looked something like EFTA.
What happened however was that people become too entrenched - one side wanting another referendum - which I didn't think was the best course of action - and another side basically wanting to leave without an agreement at all.
Leave was never a destination, it was always a process - one that will take decades. However, so far there have been zero tangible benefits beyond not being charged to fly a particular flag on your mast, apparently. But there have been tangible losses in terms of GDP and other benefits - roaming, travel, introduction of red tape, fishing industry, bad trade deals for farmers etc...,
Still, we are where we are.
I mentioned on another thread that I thought we would end up in EFTA or similar but after the referendum when T. May was PM. It did seem to be heading there at one point as a compromise. If the result had be the same percentage but with remain winning would the same compromise be offered"Probably not, but perhaps Cameron would have gone back to the EU and said, things have to change dramatically or we’re out in the next few years ..the writing is on the wall. That might have led to something more like a EFTA agreement… although, again, what’s more likely is extreme positions would win out. Either way. | |||
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"The decision has been made and no amount of carping about it in these forums or blaming everything going on in the UK on Brexit is going to change that. Get over it and move on Exactly
what has been done can easily be undone, it's simply a matter of whenlol you know fine well that no party would even discuss rejoining because they know it’s political suicid it will be more than a decade before it’s even mentioned amd by the who knows where the U.K. will be amd the eu
Sadly on this I agree. I am very anti Brexit but we are where we are now. I do think it is perfectly acceptable to keep reminding everyone who wanted it about what a shitshow it is. However, I think the focus now needs to be on how to limit the damage.
The vote was to leave the EU but there was no clear mandate for what that actually meant. That was the single biggest flaw. There should always have been a two step referendum:
1) Leave or Remain
2) If Leave then how do we leave and what form should our future relationship with the EU take?
We need to explore EFTA for example.
Interestingly, EFTA was an option floated by the leave campaign, but jettisoned soon after the referendum.
My view has always been:
1. The question should never have been asked. Referenda are a lazy form of governance and the question itself was far too complicated to reduce to a simple 'yes' or 'no', never mind expecting Joe Public to understand the nuance of what leaving the E.U., would really mean.
2. Given that the vote indicated that the country was effectively split - i.e., 48/52% - there needed to be sensible compromise on what leave actually meant. I.e., somewhere in the middle of the extremes of both sides. For me this could have looked something like EFTA.
What happened however was that people become too entrenched - one side wanting another referendum - which I didn't think was the best course of action - and another side basically wanting to leave without an agreement at all.
Leave was never a destination, it was always a process - one that will take decades. However, so far there have been zero tangible benefits beyond not being charged to fly a particular flag on your mast, apparently. But there have been tangible losses in terms of GDP and other benefits - roaming, travel, introduction of red tape, fishing industry, bad trade deals for farmers etc...,
Still, we are where we are.
I mentioned on another thread that I thought we would end up in EFTA or similar but after the referendum when T. May was PM. It did seem to be heading there at one point as a compromise. If the result had be the same percentage but with remain winning would the same compromise be offered
Why is it a ‘compromise’?
From what I recall EFTA was mentioned as a compromise as technically it's still brexit but without leaving things like the single market. I think it was EFTA or something similar. "True, maybe it would have happened if remain had won as it was so close | |||
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"There are now enough COVID-19 vaccines in Europe, but — as the fall rapidly approaches — the vaccination rate is still too low. The goal of ensuring that 70% of adults were vaccinated has been achieved, but this is not enough in view of the highly contagious delta variant. Moreover, vaccination rates vary widely among EU member states, from only 20% in Bulgaria to almost 90% in Malta. Wonder if bulgaria are happy at being in eu?......not as much as Malta perhaps? Are you blaming the EU for Bulgarias vaccine roll out? " no the eu is.... its their report not mine | |||
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"Interesting too how Britain's unemployment rate and growth rate are each better than those in the EU. And how Shell has just announced relocation to Britain. And how a recession never happened. Yet still Remainers continue their torrent of lies and abuse" Shell bringing a massive two dozen jobs and trying to get into low tax country. Lies? Please let's talk about the sunlit uplands Doing it for the fishermen No one is talking about leaving the single market Fill your boots | |||
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"Do you realise that we have left the EU Single Market? Of course, we still have access to it ..as does the US, Japan, Australia, India etc etc. Indeed, as do all countries in the world which aren't members of the EU. Shell's relocation: but, but, but...Remainers said they would relocate out of the EU" We have significantly restricted access to the single market. Don't recall anyone saying anything about shell. Can you post a link to back your word salad up | |||
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"Do you realise that we have left the EU Single Market? Of course, we still have access to it ..as does the US, Japan, Australia, India etc etc. Indeed, as do all countries in the world which aren't members of the EU. Shell's relocation: but, but, but...Remainers said they would relocate out of the EU We have significantly restricted access to the single market. Don't recall anyone saying anything about shell. Can you post a link to back your word salad up "You don't know what Shell is? Wow! I thought Remainers knew everything | |||
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"Do you realise that we have left the EU Single Market? Of course, we still have access to it ..as does the US, Japan, Australia, India etc etc. Indeed, as do all countries in the world which aren't members of the EU. Shell's relocation: but, but, but...Remainers said they would relocate out of the EU We have significantly restricted access to the single market. Don't recall anyone saying anything about shell. Can you post a link to back your word salad up
You don't know what Shell is? Wow! I thought Remainers knew everything "I'll score that a 6. Not your best. I'll give you another chance. Link please. | |||
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"So brexit isn't breaking britain its reshaping it..... and the eu is having plenty of problems of its own that no one can blame boris for? Or can they? Lol " Pushing it out of shape maybe ??
It’s looking very indebted , divided with a leader who keeps aiming and pulling that trigger to shout us all in the metaphorical foot!!
But rose coloured spectacles handed out regularly at Tory HQ so all looks great!
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"So brexit isn't breaking britain its reshaping it..... and the eu is having plenty of problems of its own that no one can blame boris for? Or can they? Lol Pushing it out of shape maybe ??
It’s looking very indebted , divided with a leader who keeps aiming and pulling that trigger to shout us all in the metaphorical foot!!
But rose coloured spectacles handed out regularly at Tory HQ so all looks great!
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"So brexit isn't breaking britain its reshaping it..... and the eu is having plenty of problems of its own that no one can blame boris for? Or can they? Lol Pushing it out of shape maybe ??
It’s looking very indebted , divided with a leader who keeps aiming and pulling that trigger to shout us all in the metaphorical foot!!
But rose coloured spectacles handed out regularly at Tory HQ so all looks great!
I like the star shaped ones! Fabby "Rocket man!! | |||
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"So brexit isn't breaking britain its reshaping it..... and the eu is having plenty of problems of its own that no one can blame boris for? Or can they? Lol Pushing it out of shape maybe ??
It’s looking very indebted , divided with a leader who keeps aiming and pulling that trigger to shout us all in the metaphorical foot!!
But rose coloured spectacles handed out regularly at Tory HQ so all looks great!
I like the star shaped ones! Fabby
Rocket man!! "The song is the basis of the tory manifesto, eu are so jealous coz they only have Charles aznavor | |||
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"I just recall the immense snobbery of the Remainers. So used to getting their own way for over 20 years they threw a massive tantrum in which they labelled Leavers as low-education, stupid, knuckledraggers, mouth breathers, racists, Nazis, various 'phobes' and said they were too stupid for their vote to stand. They won't be forgiven for generations. What people!" Hey, look whose back, I thought you had left the site | |||
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"I just recall the immense snobbery of the Remainers. So used to getting their own way for over 20 years they threw a massive tantrum in which they labelled Leavers as low-education, stupid, knuckledraggers, mouth breathers, racists, Nazis, various 'phobes' and said they were too stupid for their vote to stand. They won't be forgiven for generations. What people! Hey, look whose back, I thought you had left the site " Yeah merkle gone macron soon and Poland taking the lead? | |||
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