FabSwingers.com forum: Do you regret vote for Brexit? Part 2

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Do you regret voting for Brexit?

And feel silly .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do you regret voting for Brexit?

And feel silly .

Behave

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

Are you going to answer the question you are conveniently avoiding on part 1?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who are you referring to

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Who are you referring to "
The op of this thread.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

I'd like some clarification on the outstanding point that the world media not reporting on fluctuations in the price of Spanish electricity is a reason to think that brexit is a good idea.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd like some clarification on the outstanding point that the world media not reporting on fluctuations in the price of Spanish electricity is a reason to think that brexit is a good idea. "

And the toys

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

I'd also like to know if it was just the one person from the last thread who had "Corbyn" on his ballot paper in the 2016 referendum. And if not, is this more, or less justification for thinking that brexit was a good idea.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

I'd like some clarification on the outstanding point that the world media not reporting on fluctuations in the price of Spanish electricity is a reason to think that brexit is a good idea.

And the toys "

And the toys. I'm almost certain that this wasn't reported in the Mongolian press.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Are you going to answer the question you are conveniently avoiding on part 1? "

Repeat it here please .

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Brexiteers should applaud Frances overnight actions in protecting their borders, commerce and stopping illegal immigrants entering their territory and stealing french jobs.

This is the type of language Brexiteers like to use against our EU friends. Brexiteers, how does your medicine taste today !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd like some clarification on the outstanding point that the world media not reporting on fluctuations in the price of Spanish electricity is a reason to think that brexit is a good idea.

And the toys

And the toys. I'm almost certain that this wasn't reported in the Mongolian press. "

Exactly,

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"Brexiteers should applaud Frances overnight actions in protecting their borders, commerce and stopping illegal immigrants entering their territory and stealing french jobs.

This is the type of language Brexiteers like to use against our EU friends. Brexiteers, how does your medicine taste today !"
you definitely haven’t had your medicine for the last few days please ring your doctor lol

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Brexiteers should applaud Frances overnight actions in protecting their borders, commerce and stopping illegal immigrants entering their territory and stealing french jobs.

This is the type of language Brexiteers like to use against our EU friends. Brexiteers, how does your medicine taste today !"
If they were fishing without a proper licence of course they should be taken to court and fined no one should be above the law. Thats what this is all about the French boats that cant prove they have historical rights to fish are not getting licences and i cant for the life of me see why macron doesnt want to abide by the rules they signed up to.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Brexiteers should applaud Frances overnight actions in protecting their borders, commerce and stopping illegal immigrants entering their territory and stealing french jobs.

This is the type of language Brexiteers like to use against our EU friends. Brexiteers, how does your medicine taste today !If they were fishing without a proper licence of course they should be taken to court and fined no one should be above the law. Thats what this is all about the French boats that cant prove they have historical rights to fish are not getting licences and i cant for the life of me see why macron doesnt want to abide by the rules they signed up to. "

I agree with your statement.

Sadly, the UK had been breaking rules and agreements with the EU too.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Brexiteers should applaud Frances overnight actions in protecting their borders, commerce and stopping illegal immigrants entering their territory and stealing french jobs.

This is the type of language Brexiteers like to use against our EU friends. Brexiteers, how does your medicine taste today !you definitely haven’t had your medicine for the last few days please ring your doctor lol"

Speak to you in a day or two

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"Brexiteers should applaud Frances overnight actions in protecting their borders, commerce and stopping illegal immigrants entering their territory and stealing french jobs.

Speak to you in a day or two

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lol only a bit of banter mate lol

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By *or Fox SakeCouple
over a year ago

Thornaby

"Brexiteers should applaud Frances overnight actions in protecting their borders, commerce and stopping illegal immigrants entering their territory and stealing french jobs.

(Cough)

northern Ireland protocol

(cough)

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Brexiteers should applaud Frances overnight actions in protecting their borders, commerce and stopping illegal immigrants entering their territory and stealing french jobs.

(Cough)

northern Ireland protocol

(cough)"
you should do a pcr test with a couch like that.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

"Brexiteers should applaud Frances overnight actions in protecting their borders, commerce and stopping illegal immigrants entering their territory and stealing french jobs.

(Cough)

northern Ireland protocol

(cough)"

Is that the one that the Eu intended breaking over the vaccine issue?

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By *mateur100Man
over a year ago

nr faversham

"Brexiteers should applaud Frances overnight actions in protecting their borders, commerce and stopping illegal immigrants entering their territory and stealing french jobs.

I agree with your statement.

Sadly, the UK had been breaking rules and agreements with the EU too. "

That remains to be seen. If the French are correct in their claim that their fishermen have been wrongly denied licenses, if should be easy to release such proof to a sympathetic UK newspaper? Problem solved. Similarly, if the trawler that is stuck in Le Havre has a current license, is should be easy enough to prove. I suspect both sides are at fault BUT I don't see UK fisherman blockading never mind threats of cutting off electricity supplies.

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By *or Fox SakeCouple
over a year ago

Thornaby

"Brexiteers should applaud Frances overnight actions in protecting their borders, commerce and stopping illegal immigrants entering their territory and stealing french jobs.

(Cough)

northern Ireland protocol

(cough)

Is that the one that the Eu intended breaking over the vaccine issue?

No, as you well know, it's the agreement written by unelected bureaucrat Lord Frost, signed off by Bozo Johnson which he now says is so bad he wants to scrap it.

Perhaps people should read what they sign?

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By *mateur100Man
over a year ago

nr faversham

Apologies for the misspelling of licence!

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Are you going to answer the question you are conveniently avoiding on part 1?

Repeat it here please ."
To your statement supply problems are down to brexit.

Is it only the uk who are experiencing supply problems?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"Are you going to answer the question you are conveniently avoiding on part 1?

Repeat it here please .To your statement supply problems are down to brexit.

Is it only the uk who are experiencing supply problems?"

The UK is the only country experiencing supply problems caused by brexit.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Are you going to answer the question you are conveniently avoiding on part 1?

Repeat it here please .To your statement supply problems are down to brexit.

Is it only the uk who are experiencing supply problems?

The UK is the only country experiencing supply problems caused by brexit. "
Ok so whats the reason for problems in the rest of the world then?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"Are you going to answer the question you are conveniently avoiding on part 1?

Repeat it here please .To your statement supply problems are down to brexit.

Is it only the uk who are experiencing supply problems?

The UK is the only country experiencing supply problems caused by brexit. Ok so whats the reason for problems in the rest of the world then?"

Non-brexit causes.

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By *or Fox SakeCouple
over a year ago

Thornaby

"Are you going to answer the question you are conveniently avoiding on part 1?

Repeat it here please .To your statement supply problems are down to brexit.

Is it only the uk who are experiencing supply problems?

The UK is the only country experiencing supply problems caused by brexit. Ok so whats the reason for problems in the rest of the world then?"

Here's how to test your hypothesis.

You need a bit of Britain that's in the single market. Now if they are suffering the same problems as the rest of the UK, it's definitely not brexit that's the cause.

It would appear northern Ireland is not suffering the same issues as the rest of the UK.

Of course this could be down to the corn laws ...

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Are you going to answer the question you are conveniently avoiding on part 1?

Repeat it here please .To your statement supply problems are down to brexit.

Is it only the uk who are experiencing supply problems?

The UK is the only country experiencing supply problems caused by brexit. Ok so whats the reason for problems in the rest of the world then?

Non-brexit causes."

and remainers wonder why no one takes them seriously.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Other countries across Europe and EU have HGV driver shortages. But we are the only nation, requiring our military service men and women to drive and distribute our petrol.

Not only is it embarrassing. It’s shame on the Government and Brexiteers.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"Are you going to answer the question you are conveniently avoiding on part 1?

Repeat it here please .To your statement supply problems are down to brexit.

Is it only the uk who are experiencing supply problems?

The UK is the only country experiencing supply problems caused by brexit. Ok so whats the reason for problems in the rest of the world then?

Non-brexit causes.

and remainers wonder why no one takes them seriously."

To summarise, your argument appears to be. Some stuff isn't going well in other countries. Therefore brexit is great?

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By *or Fox SakeCouple
over a year ago

Thornaby

"Are you going to answer the question you are conveniently avoiding on part 1?

Repeat it here please .To your statement supply problems are down to brexit.

Is it only the uk who are experiencing supply problems?

The UK is the only country experiencing supply problems caused by brexit. Ok so whats the reason for problems in the rest of the world then?

Non-brexit causes.

and remainers wonder why no one takes them seriously."

Ah, he's given up on trying to argue a point and is resorting to insults, behaviour he decried yesterday I believe.

Oh dear.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Are you going to answer the question you are conveniently avoiding on part 1?

Repeat it here please .To your statement supply problems are down to brexit.

Is it only the uk who are experiencing supply problems?

The UK is the only country experiencing supply problems caused by brexit. Ok so whats the reason for problems in the rest of the world then?

Here's how to test your hypothesis.

You need a bit of Britain that's in the single market. Now if they are suffering the same problems as the rest of the UK, it's definitely not brexit that's the cause.

It would appear northern Ireland is not suffering the same issues as the rest of the UK.

Of course this could be down to the corn laws ..."
Are the ships moored up outside LA there because of brexit,how about the power cuts in china due to supply shortages are they due to brexit the vw plant on short time in wolfburg brexit again, gin in spain brexit? i could go on but it would be a waste of time as your little cult is so obsessed with brexit you cannot see further than the channel.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"Are you going to answer the question you are conveniently avoiding on part 1?

Repeat it here please .To your statement supply problems are down to brexit.

Is it only the uk who are experiencing supply problems?

The UK is the only country experiencing supply problems caused by brexit. Ok so whats the reason for problems in the rest of the world then?

Here's how to test your hypothesis.

You need a bit of Britain that's in the single market. Now if they are suffering the same problems as the rest of the UK, it's definitely not brexit that's the cause.

It would appear northern Ireland is not suffering the same issues as the rest of the UK.

Of course this could be down to the corn laws ...Are the ships moored up outside LA there because of brexit,how about the power cuts in china due to supply shortages are they due to brexit the vw plant on short time in wolfburg brexit again, gin in spain brexit? i could go on but it would be a waste of time as your little cult is so obsessed with brexit you cannot see further than the channel.

No, only the UK brexited and is suffering the consequences of brexit.

Are you seriously suggesting that because some unrelated events in other countries are happening, this somehow gives some kind of credibility to the argument that brexit is good?

That's pretty far fetched.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Are you going to answer the question you are conveniently avoiding on part 1?

Repeat it here please .To your statement supply problems are down to brexit.

Is it only the uk who are experiencing supply problems?

The UK is the only country experiencing supply problems caused by brexit. Ok so whats the reason for problems in the rest of the world then?

Non-brexit causes.

and remainers wonder why no one takes them seriously.

To summarise, your argument appears to be. Some stuff isn't going well in other countries. Therefore brexit is great?"
No to summarise stuff is not going well in other countries who had nothing to do with brexit, hmmmmm could there be another reason and what is the common denominator? Its called thinking.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Are you going to answer the question you are conveniently avoiding on part 1?

Repeat it here please .To your statement supply problems are down to brexit.

Is it only the uk who are experiencing supply problems?

The UK is the only country experiencing supply problems caused by brexit. Ok so whats the reason for problems in the rest of the world then?

Here's how to test your hypothesis.

You need a bit of Britain that's in the single market. Now if they are suffering the same problems as the rest of the UK, it's definitely not brexit that's the cause.

It would appear northern Ireland is not suffering the same issues as the rest of the UK.

No, only the UK brexited and is suffering the consequences of brexit.

Are you seriously suggesting that because some unrelated events in other countries are happening, this somehow gives some kind of credibility to the argument that brexit is good?

That's pretty far fetched.

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no not saying that at all i was answering a statement that said the uk supply problems are down to brexit nothing else.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"Are you going to answer the question you are conveniently avoiding on part 1?

Repeat it here please .To your statement supply problems are down to brexit.

Is it only the uk who are experiencing supply problems?

The UK is the only country experiencing supply problems caused by brexit. Ok so whats the reason for problems in the rest of the world then?

Here's how to test your hypothesis.

You need a bit of Britain that's in the single market. Now if they are suffering the same problems as the rest of the UK, it's definitely not brexit that's the cause.

It would appear northern Ireland is not suffering the same issues as the rest of the UK.

No, only the UK brexited and is suffering the consequences of brexit.

Are you seriously suggesting that because some unrelated events in other countries are happening, this somehow gives some kind of credibility to the argument that brexit is good?

That's pretty far fetched.

no not saying that at all i was answering a statement that said the uk supply problems are down to brexit nothing else."

Oh okay. I misunderstood. Sure, some of the problems are down to the pandemic as well as brexit.

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By *or Fox SakeCouple
over a year ago

Thornaby

"Are you going to answer the question you are conveniently avoiding on part 1?

Repeat it here please .To your statement supply problems are down to brexit.

Is it only the uk who are experiencing supply problems?

The UK is the only country experiencing supply problems caused by brexit. Ok so whats the reason for problems in the rest of the world then?

Here's how to test your hypothesis.

You need a bit of Britain that's in the single market. Now if they are suffering the same problems as the rest of the UK, it's definitely not brexit that's the cause.

It would appear northern Ireland is not suffering the same issues as the rest of the UK.

Oh I'm 99% sure you will go on in a desperate attempt to try and absolve brexit for the damage it's doing.

Brexit is actively damaging the UK, that's official, from the government.

Of course the corn laws may be the real culprit.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Are you going to answer the question you are conveniently avoiding on part 1?

Repeat it here please .To your statement supply problems are down to brexit.

Is it only the uk who are experiencing supply problems?

The UK is the only country experiencing supply problems caused by brexit. Ok so whats the reason for problems in the rest of the world then?

Here's how to test your hypothesis.

You need a bit of Britain that's in the single market. Now if they are suffering the same problems as the rest of the UK, it's definitely not brexit that's the cause.

It would appear northern Ireland is not suffering the same issues as the rest of the UK.

No, only the UK brexited and is suffering the consequences of brexit.

Are you seriously suggesting that because some unrelated events in other countries are happening, this somehow gives some kind of credibility to the argument that brexit is good?

That's pretty far fetched.

no not saying that at all i was answering a statement that said the uk supply problems are down to brexit nothing else.

Oh okay. I misunderstood. Sure, some of the problems are down to the pandemic as well as brexit. "
Thats all i was saying and until the world gets back to normal its anyone's guess what percentage is down to brexit or world supply problems.It will get worse next year again for a while when the uk imposes the paperwork on eu countries that they imposed on the uk from day 1,i was reading a large percentage of them are not ready.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"Are you going to answer the question you are conveniently avoiding on part 1?

Repeat it here please .To your statement supply problems are down to brexit.

Is it only the uk who are experiencing supply problems?

The UK is the only country experiencing supply problems caused by brexit. Ok so whats the reason for problems in the rest of the world then?

Here's how to test your hypothesis.

You need a bit of Britain that's in the single market. Now if they are suffering the same problems as the rest of the UK, it's definitely not brexit that's the cause.

It would appear northern Ireland is not suffering the same issues as the rest of the UK.

No, only the UK brexited and is suffering the consequences of brexit.

Are you seriously suggesting that because some unrelated events in other countries are happening, this somehow gives some kind of credibility to the argument that brexit is good?

That's pretty far fetched.

no not saying that at all i was answering a statement that said the uk supply problems are down to brexit nothing else.

Oh okay. I misunderstood. Sure, some of the problems are down to the pandemic as well as brexit. Thats all i was saying and until the world gets back to normal its anyone's guess what percentage is down to brexit or world supply problems.It will get worse next year again for a while when the uk imposes the paperwork on eu countries that they imposed on the uk from day 1,i was reading a large percentage of them are not ready."

True. There are a lot of studies comparing the damage between brexit and the pandemic. And they're wildly different to eachother, simply because we're not out the woods from either.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Economic watchdog forecasts UK growth but argues Brexit could have bigger negative impact than Covid. The Governments budget is worked off the OBR forecast.

It’s not some left wing or Remainer think tank .

Smell the coffee Brexiteers.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

Economic watchdog forecasts UK growth but argues Brexit could have bigger negative impact than Covid. The Governments budget is worked off the OBR forecast.

It’s not some left wing or Remainer think tank .

Smell the coffee Brexiteers."

Even if Brexit is only 1/4 as bad for the UK as the pandemic. That's still not great for no benefit what-so-ever.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

Economic watchdog forecasts UK growth but argues Brexit could have bigger negative impact than Covid. The Governments budget is worked off the OBR forecast.

It’s not some left wing or Remainer think tank .

Smell the coffee Brexiteers.

Even if Brexit is only 1/4 as bad for the UK as the pandemic. That's still not great for no benefit what-so-ever."
Short term thinking we have left a shrinking market for the uk and looking to join increasing markets.

United Kingdom (UK) trade balance with European Union 1999-2020

Published by Statista Research Department, Sep 10, 2021

The United Kingdom imports more services and goods from the European Union than exporting them. Although this has been the case since at least 1999, from 2016 onwards the UK-EU trade balance has been more pronounced as the present statistic lays out. When it comes to the UK’s trade with non-EU countries, the picture is decidedly different. Since 2012, the value of UK exports to non-EU countries was higher than the imports, which resulted in a trade surplus.

I dont think anyone in their right minds thought it was going to happen without some problems and that the eu would in any way make it easy.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Brexiteers want us to respect their view that

FAILS to improve our country

FAILS to improve our lives

FAILs to improve our children’s future

There is nothing to respect of Brexiteers views.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

Economic watchdog forecasts UK growth but argues Brexit could have bigger negative impact than Covid. The Governments budget is worked off the OBR forecast.

It’s not some left wing or Remainer think tank .

Smell the coffee Brexiteers.

Even if Brexit is only 1/4 as bad for the UK as the pandemic. That's still not great for no benefit what-so-ever.Short term thinking we have left a shrinking market for the uk and looking to join increasing markets.

United Kingdom (UK) trade balance with European Union 1999-2020

Published by Statista Research Department, Sep 10, 2021

I dont think anyone in their right minds thought it was going to happen without some problems and that the eu would in any way make it easy."

So you're saying.

We left a free market with our closest neighbors who we import the most from. (Also our biggest export market).

We already had access to all the other markets as a member of the EU, and now we have to try and negotiate our way in from a weaker position as a single country, instead of a strong position as a member of the EU.

Interesting.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

Economic watchdog forecasts UK growth but argues Brexit could have bigger negative impact than Covid. The Governments budget is worked off the OBR forecast.

It’s not some left wing or Remainer think tank .

Smell the coffee Brexiteers.

United Kingdom (UK) trade balance with European Union 1999-2020

Published by Statista Research Department, Sep 10, 2021

I dont think anyone in their right minds thought it was going to happen without some problems and that the eu would in any way make it easy.

So you're saying.

We left a free market with our closest neighbors who we import the most from. (Also our biggest export market).

Interesting.

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Tell me how long have the eu been negotiating a macrosur deal for instance? dont bother its 20 years and its still not ratified because france and ireland dont like it.We were not in a stronger position as the eu never do anything just talk.Im expecting the uk to be in the cptpp by january 2023 a true free market that tax payers do not need to pay into the eu was never a FREE market.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Brexiteers want us to respect their view that

FAILS to improve our country

FAILS to improve our lives

FAILs to improve our children’s future

There is nothing to respect of Brexiteers views. "

Do you enjoy bullying people? I've seen you do it on the Lounge forum too. Perhaps you should take a hard look at yourself, check your attitude and maybe choose another hobby?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

Economic watchdog forecasts UK growth but argues Brexit could have bigger negative impact than Covid. The Governments budget is worked off the OBR forecast.

It’s not some left wing or Remainer think tank .

Smell the coffee Brexiteers.

United Kingdom (UK) trade balance with European Union 1999-2020

Published by Statista Research Department, Sep 10, 2021

I dont think anyone in their right minds thought it was going to happen without some problems and that the eu would in any way make it easy.

So you're saying.

We left a free market with our closest neighbors who we import the most from. (Also our biggest export market).

Interesting.

Tell me how long have the eu been negotiating a macrosur deal for instance? dont bother its 20 years and its still not ratified because france and ireland dont like it.We were not in a stronger position as the eu never do anything just talk.Im expecting the uk to be in the cptpp by january 2023 a true free market that tax payers do not need to pay into the eu was never a FREE market."

Interesting. So what about the 72 countries covered by the EUs existing trade deals. Not important to brexit supporters?

CPTPP puts more power in the hands of big corporations, will make medicines more expensive, and remove lots of environmental protections. Doesn't sound great.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

Economic watchdog forecasts UK growth but argues Brexit could have bigger negative impact than Covid. The Governments budget is worked off the OBR forecast.

It’s not some left wing or Remainer think tank .

Smell the coffee Brexiteers.

United Kingdom (UK) trade balance with European Union 1999-2020

Published by Statista Research Department, Sep 10, 2021

I dont think anyone in their right minds thought it was going to happen without some problems and that the eu would in any way make it easy.

So you're saying.

We left a free market with our closest neighbors who we import the most from. (Also our biggest export market).

Interesting.

Interesting. So what about the 72 countries covered by the EUs existing trade deals. Not important to brexit supporters?

CPTPP puts more power in the hands of big corporations, will make medicines more expensive, and remove lots of environmental protections. Doesn't sound great.

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I think you will find that we have continuality deals with the majority of them and are re negotiating one by one.

Does it? ive not seen that report about big corporations getting more power and dearer medicines maybe you can point me in that direction it may change my views.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Brexiteers want us to respect their view that

FAILS to improve our country

FAILS to improve our lives

FAILs to improve our children’s future

There is nothing to respect of Brexiteers views.

Do you enjoy bullying people? I've seen you do it on the Lounge forum too. Perhaps you should take a hard look at yourself, check your attitude and maybe choose another hobby?

Regret voting for Brexit … explain .

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

Economic watchdog forecasts UK growth but argues Brexit could have bigger negative impact than Covid. The Governments budget is worked off the OBR forecast.

It’s not some left wing or Remainer think tank .

Smell the coffee Brexiteers.

United Kingdom (UK) trade balance with European Union 1999-2020

Published by Statista Research Department, Sep 10, 2021

I dont think anyone in their right minds thought it was going to happen without some problems and that the eu would in any way make it easy.

So you're saying.

We left a free market with our closest neighbors who we import the most from. (Also our biggest export market).

Interesting.

Interesting. So what about the 72 countries covered by the EUs existing trade deals. Not important to brexit supporters?

CPTPP puts more power in the hands of big corporations, will make medicines more expensive, and remove lots of environmental protections. Doesn't sound great.

I think you will find that we have continuality deals with the majority of them and are re negotiating one by one.

Does it? ive not seen that report about big corporations getting more power and dearer medicines maybe you can point me in that direction it may change my views.

A quick Google on CPTPP pros and cons, will do the job.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Brexiteers want us to respect their view that

FAILS to improve our country

FAILS to improve our lives

FAILs to improve our children’s future

There is nothing to respect of Brexiteers views.

Do you enjoy bullying people? I've seen you do it on the Lounge forum too. Perhaps you should take a hard look at yourself, check your attitude and maybe choose another hobby?

Regret voting for Brexit … explain ."

If you need it explaining, you will never understand. That's just how bullies are. Crystal clear.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

The OBR are saying Brexit will negatively impact the economy by TWICE the amount caused by the biggest pandemic in 100 years. Looking good huh?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

Economic watchdog forecasts UK growth but argues Brexit could have bigger negative impact than Covid. The Governments budget is worked off the OBR forecast.

It’s not some left wing or Remainer think tank .

Smell the coffee Brexiteers.

United Kingdom (UK) trade balance with European Union 1999-2020

Published by Statista Research Department, Sep 10, 2021

I dont think anyone in their right minds thought it was going to happen without some problems and that the eu would in any way make it easy.

So you're saying.

We left a free market with our closest neighbors who we import the most from. (Also our biggest export market).

Interesting.

Interesting. So what about the 72 countries covered by the EUs existing trade deals. Not important to brexit supporters?

CPTPP puts more power in the hands of big corporations, will make medicines more expensive, and remove lots of environmental protections. Doesn't sound great.

I think you will find that we have continuality deals with the majority of them and are re negotiating one by one.

Does it? ive not seen that report about big corporations getting more power and dearer medicines maybe you can point me in that direction it may change my views.

A quick Google on CPTPP pros and cons, will do the job.

"
Tried that but all seem to be about the USA who are not in it yet. I did find a link to the lords debating it but there was no conclusion.

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over a year ago

"The OBR are saying Brexit will negatively impact the economy by TWICE the amount caused by the biggest pandemic in 100 years. Looking good huh?"

So much ‘winning ‘

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"The OBR are saying Brexit will negatively impact the economy by TWICE the amount caused by the biggest pandemic in 100 years. Looking good huh?

So much ‘winning ‘

"
it is winning for you mate any bad news is good news to you

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over a year ago

"The OBR are saying Brexit will negatively impact the economy by TWICE the amount caused by the biggest pandemic in 100 years. Looking good huh?

So much ‘winning ‘

it is winning for you mate any bad news is good news to you "

Why? I didn’t vote for this shit show but I don’t want it to ruin the country (even though we were told it would )

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

Economic watchdog forecasts UK growth but argues Brexit could have bigger negative impact than Covid. The Governments budget is worked off the OBR forecast.

It’s not some left wing or Remainer think tank .

Smell the coffee Brexiteers.

United Kingdom (UK) trade balance with European Union 1999-2020

Published by Statista Research Department, Sep 10, 2021

I dont think anyone in their right minds thought it was going to happen without some problems and that the eu would in any way make it easy.

So you're saying.

We left a free market with our closest neighbors who we import the most from. (Also our biggest export market).

Interesting.

Interesting. So what about the 72 countries covered by the EUs existing trade deals. Not important to brexit supporters?

CPTPP puts more power in the hands of big corporations, will make medicines more expensive, and remove lots of environmental protections. Doesn't sound great.

I think you will find that we have continuality deals with the majority of them and are re negotiating one by one.

Does it? ive not seen that report about big corporations getting more power and dearer medicines maybe you can point me in that direction it may change my views.

A quick Google on CPTPP pros and cons, will do the job.

Tried that but all seem to be about the USA who are not in it yet. I did find a link to the lords debating it but there was no conclusion.

There's plenty of analysis of it out there.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"The OBR are saying Brexit will negatively impact the economy by TWICE the amount caused by the biggest pandemic in 100 years. Looking good huh?

So much ‘winning ‘

it is winning for you mate any bad news is good news to you

Why? I didn’t vote for this shit show but I don’t want it to ruin the country (even though we were told it would ) "
you wouldn’t think that by your posts mate the only news your interested in is negative news if there’s anything positive about jobs and such you post great news but anything negative you post all day every day can only comment on what I see

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The OBR are saying Brexit will negatively impact the economy by TWICE the amount caused by the biggest pandemic in 100 years. Looking good huh?

So much ‘winning ‘

it is winning for you mate any bad news is good news to you

Why? I didn’t vote for this shit show but I don’t want it to ruin the country (even though we were told it would ) you wouldn’t think that by your posts mate the only news your interested in is negative news if there’s anything positive about jobs and such you post great news but anything negative you post all day every day can only comment on what I see "

Come on then, give us some positives about Brexit?

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By *or Fox SakeCouple
over a year ago

Thornaby

"The OBR are saying Brexit will negatively impact the economy by TWICE the amount caused by the biggest pandemic in 100 years. Looking good huh?

So much ‘winning ‘

it is winning for you mate any bad news is good news to you

Ah, the Tinkerbell theory of brexit "you've just got to believe more"

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"The OBR are saying Brexit will negatively impact the economy by TWICE the amount caused by the biggest pandemic in 100 years. Looking good huh?

So much ‘winning ‘

it is winning for you mate any bad news is good news to you

Come on then, give us some positives about Brexit? "

Escorts in Kent are doing well. There's a lot of business at the Ashford lorry park apparently.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

These Remainers are pure comedy gold: they think they are 'progressive' but support tariffs/taxes on goods and undermining workers' wages

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"The OBR are saying Brexit will negatively impact the economy by TWICE the amount caused by the biggest pandemic in 100 years. Looking good huh?

So much ‘winning ‘

it is winning for you mate any bad news is good news to you

Come on then, give us some positives about Brexit? "

Wages going up, new trade deals to reduce tariffs and reduce prices, the right to make our own laws

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By *mateur100Man
over a year ago

nr faversham

"The OBR are saying Brexit will negatively impact the economy by TWICE the amount caused by the biggest pandemic in 100 years. Looking good huh?

So much ‘winning ‘

it is winning for you mate any bad news is good news to you

Come on then, give us some positives about Brexit? "

Ive just come home from a holiday in southern Spain. My favourite tipple wasn't available, apparently due to Brexit so I saved a few quid

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

Remainers think the BBC tells only the truth in trying to claim that supply problems are down to Brexit.

Naive!

Yesterday TVE, the Spanish TV channel, reported that Spain was suffering shortages of electricity (prices have risen nearly 3-fold this year), electrical components (jobs feared to be at risk), children's toys and building materials.

Today it was reported that there are also shortages of paper and glass. It's possible that some wine will be poured away.

All down to Brexit?

Remainers are entirely unaware of this and don't want to know...it undermines their fictional narrative

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By *or Fox SakeCouple
over a year ago

Thornaby

"Remainers think the BBC tells only the truth in trying to claim that supply problems are down to Brexit.

Naive!

Today it was reported that there are also shortages of paper and glass. It's possible that some wine will be poured away.

All down to Brexit?

Remainers are entirely unaware of this and don't want to know...it undermines their fictional narrative"

Another cracking comedy post.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Remainers think the BBC tells only the truth in trying to claim that supply problems are down to Brexit.

Naive!

Today it was reported that there are also shortages of paper and glass. It's possible that some wine will be poured away.

All down to Brexit?

Remainers are entirely unaware of this and don't want to know...it undermines their fictional narrative

Another cracking comedy post.

Is it untrue?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Remainers think the BBC tells only the truth in trying to claim that supply problems are down to Brexit.

Naive!

Today it was reported that there are also shortages of paper and glass. It's possible that some wine will be poured away.

All down to Brexit?

Remainers are entirely unaware of this and don't want to know...it undermines their fictional narrative

Another cracking comedy post.

"
you should start reading some other countries newspapers like el pais or do you think they are all a joke?

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

**hourly rate equal to £30k pa

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Remainers think the BBC tells only the truth in trying to claim that supply problems are down to Brexit.

Naive!

Today it was reported that there are also shortages of paper and glass. It's possible that some wine will be poured away.

All down to Brexit?

Remainers are entirely unaware of this and don't want to know...it undermines their fictional narrative

Another cracking comedy post.

Yes, but is it untrue?

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By *mateur100Man
over a year ago

nr faversham

BBC "France says less than half of the (fishing) licences it expected were issued"

Who's issuing them? UK, jersey or France?????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The OBR are saying Brexit will negatively impact the economy by TWICE the amount caused by the biggest pandemic in 100 years. Looking good huh?

So much ‘winning ‘

it is winning for you mate any bad news is good news to you

Come on then, give us some positives about Brexit?

Wages going up, new trade deals to reduce tariffs and reduce prices, the right to make our own laws"

PMSL, what has reduced in price? And a few lorry drivers have had a wage increase because of chronic shortages, are these shortages due to Brexit ?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?"

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It’s just a shame no one will do the job (even for the alleged £30 an hour)

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It’s just a shame no one will do the job (even for the alleged £30 an hour) "

Would you like to see their pay cut? To what level? And why do you want to help the farmers get cheap labour at the expense of the workers?

Give yourself a shake!

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It’s just a shame no one will do the job (even for the alleged £30 an hour) "

I would pick broccoli part time for these kind of wages.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It’s just a shame no one will do the job (even for the alleged £30 an hour)

Would you like to see their pay cut? To what level? And why do you want to help the farmers get cheap labour at the expense of the workers?

Give yourself a shake!"

Not at all, I would like them to earn £50 an hour, just a shame no one will do the job

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"The OBR are saying Brexit will negatively impact the economy by TWICE the amount caused by the biggest pandemic in 100 years. Looking good huh?

So much ‘winning ‘

it is winning for you mate any bad news is good news to you

Come on then, give us some positives about Brexit?

Wages going up, new trade deals to reduce tariffs and reduce prices, the right to make our own laws

PMSL, what has reduced in price? And a few lorry drivers have had a wage increase because of chronic shortages, are these shortages due to Brexit ? "

Not only lorry drivers. The people getting pay rises are the people whose wages suffered the greatest downward pressure due to cheap foreign labour when we were in the EU.

Interesting that you oppose that process

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It’s just a shame no one will do the job (even for the alleged £30 an hour)

I would pick broccoli part time for these kind of wages."

40 hour week, £1200 , just a shame no one will do the job

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The OBR are saying Brexit will negatively impact the economy by TWICE the amount caused by the biggest pandemic in 100 years. Looking good huh?

So much ‘winning ‘

it is winning for you mate any bad news is good news to you

Come on then, give us some positives about Brexit?

Wages going up, new trade deals to reduce tariffs and reduce prices, the right to make our own laws

PMSL, what has reduced in price? And a few lorry drivers have had a wage increase because of chronic shortages, are these shortages due to Brexit ?

Not only lorry drivers. The people getting pay rises are the people whose wages suffered the greatest downward pressure due to cheap foreign labour when we were in the EU.

Interesting that you oppose that process"

The lorry drivers wage increases are due to shortages, are the shortages due to Brexit or not? Btw, what has reduced in price ?

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"The OBR are saying Brexit will negatively impact the economy by TWICE the amount caused by the biggest pandemic in 100 years. Looking good huh?

So much ‘winning ‘

it is winning for you mate any bad news is good news to you

Come on then, give us some positives about Brexit?

Wages going up, new trade deals to reduce tariffs and reduce prices, the right to make our own laws

PMSL, what has reduced in price? And a few lorry drivers have had a wage increase because of chronic shortages, are these shortages due to Brexit ?

Not only lorry drivers. The people getting pay rises are the people whose wages suffered the greatest downward pressure due to cheap foreign labour when we were in the EU.

Interesting that you oppose that process

The lorry drivers wage increases are due to shortages, are the shortages due to Brexit or not? Btw, what has reduced in price ?"

Prices will reduce as new trade deals reduce tariffs. The NZ deal is a good example.

Why don't you support it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The OBR are saying Brexit will negatively impact the economy by TWICE the amount caused by the biggest pandemic in 100 years. Looking good huh?

So much ‘winning ‘

it is winning for you mate any bad news is good news to you

Come on then, give us some positives about Brexit?

Wages going up, new trade deals to reduce tariffs and reduce prices, the right to make our own laws

PMSL, what has reduced in price? And a few lorry drivers have had a wage increase because of chronic shortages, are these shortages due to Brexit ?

Not only lorry drivers. The people getting pay rises are the people whose wages suffered the greatest downward pressure due to cheap foreign labour when we were in the EU.

Interesting that you oppose that process

The lorry drivers wage increases are due to shortages, are the shortages due to Brexit or not? Btw, what has reduced in price ?

Prices will reduce as new trade deals reduce tariffs. The NZ deal is a good example.

Why don't you support it?"

How do you know, the deal hasn’t been signed, there is no deal yet, your just guessing ?

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing"

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are"

45 years ago?

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ? "

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ? "

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

It’s ironic that you are working in the EU and your complaining about EU workers who worked in Britain , it’s not a good look .

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

It’s ironic that you are working in the EU and your complaining about EU workers who worked in Britain , it’s not a good look . "

Why is it ironic? I've nothing against immigration. What about you?

It is important that each country decides itself how many people it's own market can support.

Didn't you realise that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

It’s ironic that you are working in the EU and your complaining about EU workers who worked in Britain , it’s not a good look .

Why is it ironic? I've nothing against immigration. What about you?

It is important that each country decides itself how many people it's own market can support.

Didn't you realise that?"

I am sorry, but you have no credibility, you are complaining about the very thing you are happy to do do yourself , really not a good look

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

It’s ironic that you are working in the EU and your complaining about EU workers who worked in Britain , it’s not a good look .

Why is it ironic? I've nothing against immigration. What about you?

It is important that each country decides itself how many people it's own market can support.

Didn't you realise that?

I am sorry, but you have no credibility, you are complaining about the very thing you are happy to do do yourself , really not a good look "

I think you don't understand what I'm saying.

You look like a total reactionary. How do you tie yourself up in such knots?

Try again!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

It’s ironic that you are working in the EU and your complaining about EU workers who worked in Britain , it’s not a good look .

Why is it ironic? I've nothing against immigration. What about you?

It is important that each country decides itself how many people it's own market can support.

Didn't you realise that?

I am sorry, but you have no credibility, you are complaining about the very thing you are happy to do do yourself , really not a good look

I think you don't understand what I'm saying.

You look like a total reactionary. How do you tie yourself up in such knots?

Try again!"

You go over to Spain, driving down wages and depriving the people of Spain ‘Spanish jobs for Spanish people’ , you should do the honourable thing and return to the land of milk and honey

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Lol! You’re literally the most reactionary poster here! Is it chutzpah or are you as spectacularly deluded as you appear to be? I’m honestly beginning to wonder whether your posts are a very clever, satirical takedown of the leaver mindset. Then again…

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

It’s ironic that you are working in the EU and your complaining about EU workers who worked in Britain , it’s not a good look .

Why is it ironic? I've nothing against immigration. What about you?

It is important that each country decides itself how many people it's own market can support.

Didn't you realise that?

I am sorry, but you have no credibility, you are complaining about the very thing you are happy to do do yourself , really not a good look

I think you don't understand what I'm saying.

You look like a total reactionary. How do you tie yourself up in such knots?

Try again!

You go over to Spain, driving down wages and depriving the people of Spain ‘Spanish jobs for Spanish people’ , you should do the honourable thing and return to the land of milk and honey "

In what sense do I drive down wages? You haven't got a clue what I do

But I know what you do you old reactionary! You support cheap-labour employers and rich farmers.

Why?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

That’s what I think, he is obviously a remain voter having a laugh ,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

It’s ironic that you are working in the EU and your complaining about EU workers who worked in Britain , it’s not a good look .

Why is it ironic? I've nothing against immigration. What about you?

It is important that each country decides itself how many people it's own market can support.

Didn't you realise that?

I am sorry, but you have no credibility, you are complaining about the very thing you are happy to do do yourself , really not a good look

I think you don't understand what I'm saying.

You look like a total reactionary. How do you tie yourself up in such knots?

Try again!

You go over to Spain, driving down wages and depriving the people of Spain ‘Spanish jobs for Spanish people’ , you should do the honourable thing and return to the land of milk and honey

In what sense do I drive down wages? You haven't got a clue what I do

But I know what you do you old reactionary! You support cheap-labour employers and rich farmers.

Why?"

You should leave your job immediately your employer would then have to increase wages due to the shortage you have left. If you don’t then you s hypocrite who has me credibility, not a good look

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can't be bothered to read all the replies. Gonna guess most, if not all, Brexiters will just dig in their heels here and say they don't regret their vote despite mountains of evidence Brexit is shit.

It is odd, though. Poll after poll seems to have showed support for Brexit nosedived over time after the vote.

Maybe people in an anonymous poll are more likely to give their true view. Whereas here they feel like they have to put up some sort of a front?

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Not at all.

If you support cheap-labour exploiters and rich farmers then you are a reactionary, yes?

In what sense are you not reactionary?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can't be bothered to read all the replies. Gonna guess most, if not all, Brexiters will just dig in their heels here and say they don't regret their vote despite mountains of evidence Brexit is shit.

It is odd, though. Poll after poll seems to have showed support for Brexit nosedived over time after the vote.

Maybe people in an anonymous poll are more likely to give their true view. Whereas here they feel like they have to put up some sort of a front? "

I honestly think out friend from Spain is a stand up comedian remain voter who is just honing and practicing his new comedy material

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

It is odd, though. Poll after poll seems to have showed support for Brexit nosedived over time after the vote.

Maybe people in an anonymous poll are more likely to give their true view. Whereas here they feel like they have to put up some sort of a front? "

But you lose election after election. The results for you are getting progressively worse

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Not at all.

If you support cheap-labour exploiters and rich farmers then you are a reactionary, yes?

In what sense are you not reactionary?"

You need to leave your job and allow the people of Spain to experience a wage growth

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is odd, though. Poll after poll seems to have showed support for Brexit nosedived over time after the vote.

Maybe people in an anonymous poll are more likely to give their true view. Whereas here they feel like they have to put up some sort of a front?

But you lose election after election. The results for you are getting progressively worse"

Is he an MP?

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

It is odd, though. Poll after poll seems to have showed support for Brexit nosedived over time after the vote.

Maybe people in an anonymous poll are more likely to give their true view. Whereas here they feel like they have to put up some sort of a front?

I honestly think out friend from Spain is a stand up comedian remain voter who is just honing and practicing his new comedy material "

Can you explain in what way I'm wrong?

You support cheap-labour employers and mock wage rises. You are reactionary. Look at yourself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is odd, though. Poll after poll seems to have showed support for Brexit nosedived over time after the vote.

Maybe people in an anonymous poll are more likely to give their true view. Whereas here they feel like they have to put up some sort of a front?

But you lose election after election. The results for you are getting progressively worse

Is he an MP? "

Curses. My great secret is out! I'm off to hide in a bar in the House of Commons!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is odd, though. Poll after poll seems to have showed support for Brexit nosedived over time after the vote.

Maybe people in an anonymous poll are more likely to give their true view. Whereas here they feel like they have to put up some sort of a front?

I honestly think out friend from Spain is a stand up comedian remain voter who is just honing and practicing his new comedy material

Can you explain in what way I'm wrong?

You support cheap-labour employers and mock wage rises. You are reactionary. Look at yourself"

Going to Spain, driving down wages, not a good look

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Not at all.

If you support cheap-labour exploiters and rich farmers then you are a reactionary, yes?

In what sense are you not reactionary?"

In the sense that one doesn’t follow the other?

Even if I did, how would that make me specifically a ‘reactionary’? Perhaps you meant to say a different word?

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Not at all.

If you support cheap-labour exploiters and rich farmers then you are a reactionary, yes?

In what sense are you not reactionary?

In the sense that one doesn’t follow the other?

Even if I did, how would that make me specifically a ‘reactionary’? Perhaps you meant to say a different word? "

If you support the EU you support the free movement of labour which cheap-labour employers used to use to undermine workers.

You understand this? It's not hard

Brexiteers grasped it years ago

Open your mind

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Not at all.

If you support cheap-labour exploiters and rich farmers then you are a reactionary, yes?

In what sense are you not reactionary?

In the sense that one doesn’t follow the other?

Even if I did, how would that make me specifically a ‘reactionary’? Perhaps you meant to say a different word?

If you support the EU you support the free movement of labour which cheap-labour employers used to use to undermine workers.

You understand this? It's not hard

Brexiteers grasped it years ago

Open your mind"

Do you work for a ‘cheap -labour employer’ ?

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Not at all.

If you support cheap-labour exploiters and rich farmers then you are a reactionary, yes?

In what sense are you not reactionary?

In the sense that one doesn’t follow the other?

Even if I did, how would that make me specifically a ‘reactionary’? Perhaps you meant to say a different word?

If you support the EU you support the free movement of labour which cheap-labour employers used to use to undermine workers.

You understand this? It's not hard

Brexiteers grasped it years ago

Open your mind

Do you work for a ‘cheap -labour employer’ ? "

No, but they exist. What's the relevance of your question?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Not at all.

If you support cheap-labour exploiters and rich farmers then you are a reactionary, yes?

In what sense are you not reactionary?

In the sense that one doesn’t follow the other?

Even if I did, how would that make me specifically a ‘reactionary’? Perhaps you meant to say a different word?

If you support the EU you support the free movement of labour which cheap-labour employers used to use to undermine workers.

You understand this? It's not hard

Brexiteers grasped it years ago

Open your mind

Do you work for a ‘cheap -labour employer’ ?

No, but they exist. What's the relevance of your question?"

Well, they have taken advantage of freedom of movement to employ a foreigner , so they must be ‘cheap labour employer’ tryiNg to drive down wages? Correct ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Not at all.

If you support cheap-labour exploiters and rich farmers then you are a reactionary, yes?

In what sense are you not reactionary?

In the sense that one doesn’t follow the other?

Even if I did, how would that make me specifically a ‘reactionary’? Perhaps you meant to say a different word?

If you support the EU you support the free movement of labour which cheap-labour employers used to use to undermine workers.

You understand this? It's not hard

Brexiteers grasped it years ago

Open your mind

Do you work for a ‘cheap -labour employer’ ? "

Adrian writes for a tabloid and moonlights doing stand up comedy on the side. It's going very well.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

Over the last few days it has become increasingly apparent that _drianuk is a parody account. At the end of the day more fool any of us getting into any remotely serious discussion on a swinger website.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Not at all.

If you support cheap-labour exploiters and rich farmers then you are a reactionary, yes?

In what sense are you not reactionary?

In the sense that one doesn’t follow the other?

Even if I did, how would that make me specifically a ‘reactionary’? Perhaps you meant to say a different word?

If you support the EU you support the free movement of labour which cheap-labour employers used to use to undermine workers.

You understand this? It's not hard

Brexiteers grasped it years ago

Open your mind

Do you work for a ‘cheap -labour employer’ ?

Adrian writes for a tabloid and moonlights doing stand up comedy on the side. It's going very well.

Ha, it is really Stewart Lee

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Not at all.

If you support cheap-labour exploiters and rich farmers then you are a reactionary, yes?

In what sense are you not reactionary?

In the sense that one doesn’t follow the other?

Even if I did, how would that make me specifically a ‘reactionary’? Perhaps you meant to say a different word?

If you support the EU you support the free movement of labour which cheap-labour employers used to use to undermine workers.

You understand this? It's not hard

Brexiteers grasped it years ago

Open your mind"

Ah the hyperbolic avoidance technique! Well played!

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Not at all.

If you support cheap-labour exploiters and rich farmers then you are a reactionary, yes?

In what sense are you not reactionary?

In the sense that one doesn’t follow the other?

Even if I did, how would that make me specifically a ‘reactionary’? Perhaps you meant to say a different word?

If you support the EU you support the free movement of labour which cheap-labour employers used to use to undermine workers.

You understand this? It's not hard

Brexiteers grasped it years ago

Open your mind

Do you work for a ‘cheap -labour employer’ ?

No, but they exist. What's the relevance of your question?

Well, they have taken advantage of freedom of movement to employ a foreigner , so they must be ‘cheap labour employer’ tryiNg to drive down wages? Correct ? "

But there's nothing wrong with immigration. It's the numbers...it must be up to each country to decide what level its market can sustain. That was what Brexit was about...returning control from Brussels. Anything wrong with that?

Conversely, if you flood labour markets at the behest of bad employers you force wages down.

A reactionary move.

I explained this to you an hour ago! I'm very patient

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Over the last few days it has become increasingly apparent that _drianuk is a parody account. At the end of the day more fool any of us getting into any remotely serious discussion on a swinger website.

Is anything I say incorrect?

You may pretend to laugh but you never appear to answer what I say, do you?

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Not at all.

If you support cheap-labour exploiters and rich farmers then you are a reactionary, yes?

In what sense are you not reactionary?

In the sense that one doesn’t follow the other?

Even if I did, how would that make me specifically a ‘reactionary’? Perhaps you meant to say a different word?

If you support the EU you support the free movement of labour which cheap-labour employers used to use to undermine workers.

You understand this? It's not hard

Brexiteers grasped it years ago

Open your mind

Ah the hyperbolic avoidance technique! Well played!"

I don't know what you're on about.

Try and explain why you're not a reactionary.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Not at all.

If you support cheap-labour exploiters and rich farmers then you are a reactionary, yes?

In what sense are you not reactionary?

In the sense that one doesn’t follow the other?

Even if I did, how would that make me specifically a ‘reactionary’? Perhaps you meant to say a different word?

If you support the EU you support the free movement of labour which cheap-labour employers used to use to undermine workers.

You understand this? It's not hard

Brexiteers grasped it years ago

Open your mind

Do you work for a ‘cheap -labour employer’ ?

No, but they exist. What's the relevance of your question?

Well, they have taken advantage of freedom of movement to employ a foreigner , so they must be ‘cheap labour employer’ tryiNg to drive down wages? Correct ?

Conversely, if you flood labour markets at the behest of bad employers you force wages down.

A reactionary move.

I explained this to you an hour ago! I'm very patient"

How do you know you don’t work for a ‘bad employer’? If you left your job, this would create a shortage, therefore your employer would be forced to increase wages to employ someone else, does this sound familiar? Creating shortages in the job market is not a good or sustainable way to increase wages, there is a better solution to make sure wages are better for everyone and to stop these bad employers using cheap labour, increase the minimum wage, no need for Brexit

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing"

Lol

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

Is anything I say incorrect?

I'll field this one.

Yes. 100%. Absolutely. It's comedy gold.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Not at all.

If you support cheap-labour exploiters and rich farmers then you are a reactionary, yes?

In what sense are you not reactionary?

In the sense that one doesn’t follow the other?

Even if I did, how would that make me specifically a ‘reactionary’? Perhaps you meant to say a different word?

If you support the EU you support the free movement of labour which cheap-labour employers used to use to undermine workers.

You understand this? It's not hard

Brexiteers grasped it years ago

Open your mind

Do you work for a ‘cheap -labour employer’ ?

No, but they exist. What's the relevance of your question?

Well, they have taken advantage of freedom of movement to employ a foreigner , so they must be ‘cheap labour employer’ tryiNg to drive down wages? Correct ?

Conversely, if you flood labour markets at the behest of bad employers you force wages down.

A reactionary move.

I explained this to you an hour ago! I'm very patient

I'd be so glad if my employer increased wages. Even if I'd left the company!

But they don't do it willingly. They only pay as much as they need to pay to get people who can do the job adequately.

The EU, when we were members, increased the labour pool so rubbish employers could get suitable labour at an ever-lower cost.

Benn, Shore, Heffer, Gaitskell etc knew that.

So why are you on the side of rubbish employers?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Not at all.

If you support cheap-labour exploiters and rich farmers then you are a reactionary, yes?

In what sense are you not reactionary?

In the sense that one doesn’t follow the other?

Even if I did, how would that make me specifically a ‘reactionary’? Perhaps you meant to say a different word?

If you support the EU you support the free movement of labour which cheap-labour employers used to use to undermine workers.

You understand this? It's not hard

Brexiteers grasped it years ago

Open your mind

Do you work for a ‘cheap -labour employer’ ?

No, but they exist. What's the relevance of your question?

Well, they have taken advantage of freedom of movement to employ a foreigner , so they must be ‘cheap labour employer’ tryiNg to drive down wages? Correct ?

Conversely, if you flood labour markets at the behest of bad employers you force wages down.

A reactionary move.

I explained this to you an hour ago! I'm very patient"

At least you have admitted that it isn’t freedom of movement that is the problem but ‘bad employers’

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

Is anything I say incorrect?

I'll field this one.

Yes. 100%. Absolutely. It's comedy gold."

I think you're hiding, you old reactionary!

You can't answer my points. I challenge you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Not at all.

If you support cheap-labour exploiters and rich farmers then you are a reactionary, yes?

In what sense are you not reactionary?

In the sense that one doesn’t follow the other?

Even if I did, how would that make me specifically a ‘reactionary’? Perhaps you meant to say a different word?

If you support the EU you support the free movement of labour which cheap-labour employers used to use to undermine workers.

You understand this? It's not hard

Brexiteers grasped it years ago

Open your mind

Do you work for a ‘cheap -labour employer’ ?

No, but they exist. What's the relevance of your question?

Well, they have taken advantage of freedom of movement to employ a foreigner , so they must be ‘cheap labour employer’ tryiNg to drive down wages? Correct ?

Conversely, if you flood labour markets at the behest of bad employers you force wages down.

A reactionary move.

I explained this to you an hour ago! I'm very patient

I'd be so glad if my employer increased wages. Even if I'd left the company!

But they don't do it willingly. They only pay as much as they need to pay to get people who can do the job adequately.

The EU, when we were members, increased the labour pool so rubbish employers could get suitable labour at an ever-lower cost.

Benn, Shore, Heffer, Gaitskell etc knew that.

So why are you on the side of rubbish employers?"

At least you have admitted it’s not freedom of movement that isn’t the problem , but bad employers. Do you know how to stop these ‘bad employers ‘ exploiting cheap labour? Have a high minimum wage, decent wage for all, not just HGV drivers and Broccoli pickers

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Not at all.

If you support cheap-labour exploiters and rich farmers then you are a reactionary, yes?

In what sense are you not reactionary?

In the sense that one doesn’t follow the other?

Even if I did, how would that make me specifically a ‘reactionary’? Perhaps you meant to say a different word?

If you support the EU you support the free movement of labour which cheap-labour employers used to use to undermine workers.

You understand this? It's not hard

Brexiteers grasped it years ago

Open your mind

Do you work for a ‘cheap -labour employer’ ?

No, but they exist. What's the relevance of your question?

Well, they have taken advantage of freedom of movement to employ a foreigner , so they must be ‘cheap labour employer’ tryiNg to drive down wages? Correct ?

Conversely, if you flood labour markets at the behest of bad employers you force wages down.

A reactionary move.

I explained this to you an hour ago! I'm very patient

At least you have admitted that it isn’t freedom of movement that is the problem but ‘bad employers’ "

No. Freedom of movement is the problem. It is supported by bad employers and used by bad employers.

Marx called it the 'reserve army of labour'. Why are you on the wrong side?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Not at all.

If you support cheap-labour exploiters and rich farmers then you are a reactionary, yes?

In what sense are you not reactionary?

In the sense that one doesn’t follow the other?

Even if I did, how would that make me specifically a ‘reactionary’? Perhaps you meant to say a different word?

If you support the EU you support the free movement of labour which cheap-labour employers used to use to undermine workers.

You understand this? It's not hard

Brexiteers grasped it years ago

Open your mind

Do you work for a ‘cheap -labour employer’ ?

No, but they exist. What's the relevance of your question?

Well, they have taken advantage of freedom of movement to employ a foreigner , so they must be ‘cheap labour employer’ tryiNg to drive down wages? Correct ?

Conversely, if you flood labour markets at the behest of bad employers you force wages down.

A reactionary move.

I explained this to you an hour ago! I'm very patient

At least you have admitted that it isn’t freedom of movement that is the problem but ‘bad employers’

No. Freedom of movement is the problem. It is supported by bad employers and used by bad employers.

Marx called it the 'reserve army of labour'. Why are you on the wrong side?"

So freedom movement is bad? Even though you and your employer have taken advantage of this, your being a hypocrite, not a good look

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

100%

I'm really enjoying his brand of comedy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Not at all.

If you support cheap-labour exploiters and rich farmers then you are a reactionary, yes?

In what sense are you not reactionary?

In the sense that one doesn’t follow the other?

Even if I did, how would that make me specifically a ‘reactionary’? Perhaps you meant to say a different word?

If you support the EU you support the free movement of labour which cheap-labour employers used to use to undermine workers.

You understand this? It's not hard

Brexiteers grasped it years ago

Open your mind

Ah the hyperbolic avoidance technique! Well played!

I don't know what you're on about.

Try and explain why you're not a reactionary."

No, come on now, I asked first.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

Is anything I say incorrect?

I'll field this one.

Yes. 100%. Absolutely. It's comedy gold.

I think you're hiding, you old reactionary!

You can't answer my points. I challenge you"

The only point you're making, is that you believed the anti-EU propaganda. I'm not sure there's anything to answer.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Not at all.

If you support cheap-labour exploiters and rich farmers then you are a reactionary, yes?

In what sense are you not reactionary?

In the sense that one doesn’t follow the other?

Even if I did, how would that make me specifically a ‘reactionary’? Perhaps you meant to say a different word?

If you support the EU you support the free movement of labour which cheap-labour employers used to use to undermine workers.

You understand this? It's not hard

Brexiteers grasped it years ago

Open your mind

Do you work for a ‘cheap -labour employer’ ?

No, but they exist. What's the relevance of your question?

Well, they have taken advantage of freedom of movement to employ a foreigner , so they must be ‘cheap labour employer’ tryiNg to drive down wages? Correct ?

Conversely, if you flood labour markets at the behest of bad employers you force wages down.

A reactionary move.

I explained this to you an hour ago! I'm very patient

At least you have admitted that it isn’t freedom of movement that is the problem but ‘bad employers’

No. Freedom of movement is the problem. It is supported by bad employers and used by bad employers.

Marx called it the 'reserve army of labour'. Why are you on the wrong side?

So freedom movement is bad? Even though you and your employer have taken advantage of this, your being a hypocrite, not a good look "

Freedom of movement is thoroughly bad if uncontrolled, yes. Brexiteers campaigned for the right for each country to set its own level of immigration.

Why is that wrong?

Why do you support bad employers who want to flood labour markets?

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Not at all.

If you support cheap-labour exploiters and rich farmers then you are a reactionary, yes?

In what sense are you not reactionary?

In the sense that one doesn’t follow the other?

Even if I did, how would that make me specifically a ‘reactionary’? Perhaps you meant to say a different word?

If you support the EU you support the free movement of labour which cheap-labour employers used to use to undermine workers.

You understand this? It's not hard

Brexiteers grasped it years ago

Open your mind

Ah the hyperbolic avoidance technique! Well played!

I don't know what you're on about.

Try and explain why you're not a reactionary.

No, come on now, I asked first. "

You're just a reactionary. You support a low-wage economy and protectionism for landowners.

Have a good think.

Brexiteers stand for the opposite. Open your mind

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Not at all.

If you support cheap-labour exploiters and rich farmers then you are a reactionary, yes?

In what sense are you not reactionary?

In the sense that one doesn’t follow the other?

Even if I did, how would that make me specifically a ‘reactionary’? Perhaps you meant to say a different word?

If you support the EU you support the free movement of labour which cheap-labour employers used to use to undermine workers.

You understand this? It's not hard

Brexiteers grasped it years ago

Open your mind

Do you work for a ‘cheap -labour employer’ ?

No, but they exist. What's the relevance of your question?

Well, they have taken advantage of freedom of movement to employ a foreigner , so they must be ‘cheap labour employer’ tryiNg to drive down wages? Correct ?

Conversely, if you flood labour markets at the behest of bad employers you force wages down.

A reactionary move.

I explained this to you an hour ago! I'm very patient

At least you have admitted that it isn’t freedom of movement that is the problem but ‘bad employers’

No. Freedom of movement is the problem. It is supported by bad employers and used by bad employers.

Marx called it the 'reserve army of labour'. Why are you on the wrong side?

So freedom movement is bad? Even though you and your employer have taken advantage of this, your being a hypocrite, not a good look

Freedom of movement is thoroughly bad if uncontrolled, yes. Brexiteers campaigned for the right for each country to set its own level of immigration.

Why is that wrong?

Why do you support bad employers who want to flood labour markets?"

Unfortunately you are hypocrite, you have used freedom of movement, your employer has used freedom of movement to employ cheap foreign labour (you) and now you are criticising it. You should stick to your principles, resign abs return to the promised land

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Not at all.

If you support cheap-labour exploiters and rich farmers then you are a reactionary, yes?

In what sense are you not reactionary?

In the sense that one doesn’t follow the other?

Even if I did, how would that make me specifically a ‘reactionary’? Perhaps you meant to say a different word?

If you support the EU you support the free movement of labour which cheap-labour employers used to use to undermine workers.

You understand this? It's not hard

Brexiteers grasped it years ago

Open your mind

Do you work for a ‘cheap -labour employer’ ?

No, but they exist. What's the relevance of your question?

Well, they have taken advantage of freedom of movement to employ a foreigner , so they must be ‘cheap labour employer’ tryiNg to drive down wages? Correct ?

Conversely, if you flood labour markets at the behest of bad employers you force wages down.

A reactionary move.

I explained this to you an hour ago! I'm very patient

At least you have admitted that it isn’t freedom of movement that is the problem but ‘bad employers’

No. Freedom of movement is the problem. It is supported by bad employers and used by bad employers.

Marx called it the 'reserve army of labour'. Why are you on the wrong side?

So freedom movement is bad? Even though you and your employer have taken advantage of this, your being a hypocrite, not a good look

Freedom of movement is thoroughly bad if uncontrolled, yes. Brexiteers campaigned for the right for each country to set its own level of immigration.

Why is that wrong?

Why do you support bad employers who want to flood labour markets?

I think you fail to grasp my point. Too many years of sucking up propaganda maybe?

Read my points again

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Not at all.

If you support cheap-labour exploiters and rich farmers then you are a reactionary, yes?

In what sense are you not reactionary?

In the sense that one doesn’t follow the other?

Even if I did, how would that make me specifically a ‘reactionary’? Perhaps you meant to say a different word?

If you support the EU you support the free movement of labour which cheap-labour employers used to use to undermine workers.

You understand this? It's not hard

Brexiteers grasped it years ago

Open your mind

Ah the hyperbolic avoidance technique! Well played!

I don't know what you're on about.

Try and explain why you're not a reactionary.

No, come on now, I asked first.

You're just a reactionary. You support a low-wage economy and protectionism for landowners.

Have a good think.

Brexiteers stand for the opposite. Open your mind"

The prosecution rests your honour.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Not at all.

If you support cheap-labour exploiters and rich farmers then you are a reactionary, yes?

In what sense are you not reactionary?

In the sense that one doesn’t follow the other?

Even if I did, how would that make me specifically a ‘reactionary’? Perhaps you meant to say a different word?

If you support the EU you support the free movement of labour which cheap-labour employers used to use to undermine workers.

You understand this? It's not hard

Brexiteers grasped it years ago

Open your mind

Do you work for a ‘cheap -labour employer’ ?

No, but they exist. What's the relevance of your question?

Well, they have taken advantage of freedom of movement to employ a foreigner , so they must be ‘cheap labour employer’ tryiNg to drive down wages? Correct ?

Conversely, if you flood labour markets at the behest of bad employers you force wages down.

A reactionary move.

I explained this to you an hour ago! I'm very patient

At least you have admitted that it isn’t freedom of movement that is the problem but ‘bad employers’

No. Freedom of movement is the problem. It is supported by bad employers and used by bad employers.

Marx called it the 'reserve army of labour'. Why are you on the wrong side?

So freedom movement is bad? Even though you and your employer have taken advantage of this, your being a hypocrite, not a good look

Freedom of movement is thoroughly bad if uncontrolled, yes. Brexiteers campaigned for the right for each country to set its own level of immigration.

Why is that wrong?

Why do you support bad employers who want to flood labour markets?

I think you fail to grasp my point. Too many years of sucking up propaganda maybe?

Read my points again"

I have read them, if you want credible and respect (for yourself and others) resign on a point of principle , be brave, be noble

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Not at all.

If you support cheap-labour exploiters and rich farmers then you are a reactionary, yes?

In what sense are you not reactionary?

In the sense that one doesn’t follow the other?

Even if I did, how would that make me specifically a ‘reactionary’? Perhaps you meant to say a different word?

If you support the EU you support the free movement of labour which cheap-labour employers used to use to undermine workers.

You understand this? It's not hard

Brexiteers grasped it years ago

Open your mind

Ah the hyperbolic avoidance technique! Well played!

I don't know what you're on about.

Try and explain why you're not a reactionary.

No, come on now, I asked first.

You're just a reactionary. You support a low-wage economy and protectionism for landowners.

Have a good think.

Brexiteers stand for the opposite. Open your mind

The prosecution rests your honour."

No case rested until you have answered the points, you old reactionary.

Why do you dodge the points raised?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

Why do you dodge the points raised?"

This is good. I enjoy the way you imply that your waffle about broccoli pickers was a valid point.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Not at all.

If you support cheap-labour exploiters and rich farmers then you are a reactionary, yes?

In what sense are you not reactionary?

In the sense that one doesn’t follow the other?

Even if I did, how would that make me specifically a ‘reactionary’? Perhaps you meant to say a different word?

If you support the EU you support the free movement of labour which cheap-labour employers used to use to undermine workers.

You understand this? It's not hard

Brexiteers grasped it years ago

Open your mind

Do you work for a ‘cheap -labour employer’ ?

No, but they exist. What's the relevance of your question?

Well, they have taken advantage of freedom of movement to employ a foreigner , so they must be ‘cheap labour employer’ tryiNg to drive down wages? Correct ?

Conversely, if you flood labour markets at the behest of bad employers you force wages down.

A reactionary move.

I explained this to you an hour ago! I'm very patient

At least you have admitted that it isn’t freedom of movement that is the problem but ‘bad employers’

No. Freedom of movement is the problem. It is supported by bad employers and used by bad employers.

Marx called it the 'reserve army of labour'. Why are you on the wrong side?

So freedom movement is bad? Even though you and your employer have taken advantage of this, your being a hypocrite, not a good look

Freedom of movement is thoroughly bad if uncontrolled, yes. Brexiteers campaigned for the right for each country to set its own level of immigration.

Why is that wrong?

Why do you support bad employers who want to flood labour markets?

I think you fail to grasp my point. Too many years of sucking up propaganda maybe?

Read my points again

I have read them, if you want credible and respect (for yourself and others) resign on a point of principle , be brave, be noble "

It's to do with control of your borders. We had no control while in the EU when any of 465m people could enter Britain and work for little.

Brexit gave is that basic democratic right again.

I've been very patient in explaining how markets and politics work. Just read...then you won't have to keep repeating the same misunderstanding!

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

Why do you dodge the points raised?

This is good. I enjoy the way you imply that your waffle about broccoli pickers was a valid point. "

In what way wasn't it a valid point?

You, on the other hand, can't produce more than pretend humour.

Give it another go!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Not at all.

If you support cheap-labour exploiters and rich farmers then you are a reactionary, yes?

In what sense are you not reactionary?

In the sense that one doesn’t follow the other?

Even if I did, how would that make me specifically a ‘reactionary’? Perhaps you meant to say a different word?

If you support the EU you support the free movement of labour which cheap-labour employers used to use to undermine workers.

You understand this? It's not hard

Brexiteers grasped it years ago

Open your mind

Do you work for a ‘cheap -labour employer’ ?

No, but they exist. What's the relevance of your question?

Well, they have taken advantage of freedom of movement to employ a foreigner , so they must be ‘cheap labour employer’ tryiNg to drive down wages? Correct ?

Conversely, if you flood labour markets at the behest of bad employers you force wages down.

A reactionary move.

I explained this to you an hour ago! I'm very patient

At least you have admitted that it isn’t freedom of movement that is the problem but ‘bad employers’

No. Freedom of movement is the problem. It is supported by bad employers and used by bad employers.

Marx called it the 'reserve army of labour'. Why are you on the wrong side?

So freedom movement is bad? Even though you and your employer have taken advantage of this, your being a hypocrite, not a good look

Freedom of movement is thoroughly bad if uncontrolled, yes. Brexiteers campaigned for the right for each country to set its own level of immigration.

Why is that wrong?

Why do you support bad employers who want to flood labour markets?

I think you fail to grasp my point. Too many years of sucking up propaganda maybe?

Read my points again

I have read them, if you want credible and respect (for yourself and others) resign on a point of principle , be brave, be noble

It's to do with control of your borders. We had no control while in the EU when any of 465m people could enter Britain and work for little.

Brexit gave is that basic democratic right again.

I've been very patient in explaining how markets and politics work. Just read...then you won't have to keep repeating the same misunderstanding!"

Have the courage of your convictions, resign,

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

Why do you dodge the points raised?

This is good. I enjoy the way you imply that your waffle about broccoli pickers was a valid point.

In what way wasn't it a valid point?

You, on the other hand, can't produce more than pretend humour.

Give it another go!"

I'm not making any points here. I'm just joining in.

Keep at it.

But to answer your question, some made up nonsense about broccoli pickers, is probably not a strong argument that's going to convince anyone that brexit is a good idea.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Not at all.

If you support cheap-labour exploiters and rich farmers then you are a reactionary, yes?

In what sense are you not reactionary?

In the sense that one doesn’t follow the other?

Even if I did, how would that make me specifically a ‘reactionary’? Perhaps you meant to say a different word?

If you support the EU you support the free movement of labour which cheap-labour employers used to use to undermine workers.

You understand this? It's not hard

Brexiteers grasped it years ago

Open your mind

Do you work for a ‘cheap -labour employer’ ?

No, but they exist. What's the relevance of your question?

Well, they have taken advantage of freedom of movement to employ a foreigner , so they must be ‘cheap labour employer’ tryiNg to drive down wages? Correct ?

Conversely, if you flood labour markets at the behest of bad employers you force wages down.

A reactionary move.

I explained this to you an hour ago! I'm very patient

At least you have admitted that it isn’t freedom of movement that is the problem but ‘bad employers’

No. Freedom of movement is the problem. It is supported by bad employers and used by bad employers.

Marx called it the 'reserve army of labour'. Why are you on the wrong side?

So freedom movement is bad? Even though you and your employer have taken advantage of this, your being a hypocrite, not a good look

Freedom of movement is thoroughly bad if uncontrolled, yes. Brexiteers campaigned for the right for each country to set its own level of immigration.

Why is that wrong?

Why do you support bad employers who want to flood labour markets?

I think you fail to grasp my point. Too many years of sucking up propaganda maybe?

Read my points again

I have read them, if you want credible and respect (for yourself and others) resign on a point of principle , be brave, be noble

It's to do with control of your borders. We had no control while in the EU when any of 465m people could enter Britain and work for little.

Brexit gave is that basic democratic right again.

I've been very patient in explaining how markets and politics work. Just read...then you won't have to keep repeating the same misunderstanding!

Have the courage of your convictions, resign, "

Do you ever listen to what other people say? You seem to just stick your fingers in your ears.

What do you gain by 'discussion' in which you never engage?

And Remainers claim to be cleverer than other people.

How do you feel you are doing?

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

Why do you dodge the points raised?

This is good. I enjoy the way you imply that your waffle about broccoli pickers was a valid point.

In what way wasn't it a valid point?

You, on the other hand, can't produce more than pretend humour.

Give it another go!

I'm not making any points here. I'm just joining in.

Keep at it.

But to answer your question, some made up nonsense about broccoli pickers, is probably not a strong argument that's going to convince anyone that brexit is a good idea. "

The point about broccoli pickers was about the extent to which bad bosses had been able to force down wages in the EU era.

That is now unwinding and wages are returning to a proper labour market rate.

That is not made up. Nor is it trite

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

And Remainers claim to be cleverer than other people."

You seem to say this a lot, you seem to be the only person saying this.

Why do you claim that remainers are claiming that they're cleverer? Does that imply that you're claiming that you are clevererer than these "remainers" who are claiming that they're cleverer than you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Not at all.

If you support cheap-labour exploiters and rich farmers then you are a reactionary, yes?

In what sense are you not reactionary?

In the sense that one doesn’t follow the other?

Even if I did, how would that make me specifically a ‘reactionary’? Perhaps you meant to say a different word?

If you support the EU you support the free movement of labour which cheap-labour employers used to use to undermine workers.

You understand this? It's not hard

Brexiteers grasped it years ago

Open your mind

Do you work for a ‘cheap -labour employer’ ?

No, but they exist. What's the relevance of your question?

Well, they have taken advantage of freedom of movement to employ a foreigner , so they must be ‘cheap labour employer’ tryiNg to drive down wages? Correct ?

Conversely, if you flood labour markets at the behest of bad employers you force wages down.

A reactionary move.

I explained this to you an hour ago! I'm very patient

At least you have admitted that it isn’t freedom of movement that is the problem but ‘bad employers’

No. Freedom of movement is the problem. It is supported by bad employers and used by bad employers.

Marx called it the 'reserve army of labour'. Why are you on the wrong side?

So freedom movement is bad? Even though you and your employer have taken advantage of this, your being a hypocrite, not a good look

Freedom of movement is thoroughly bad if uncontrolled, yes. Brexiteers campaigned for the right for each country to set its own level of immigration.

Why is that wrong?

Why do you support bad employers who want to flood labour markets?

I think you fail to grasp my point. Too many years of sucking up propaganda maybe?

Read my points again

I have read them, if you want credible and respect (for yourself and others) resign on a point of principle , be brave, be noble

It's to do with control of your borders. We had no control while in the EU when any of 465m people could enter Britain and work for little.

Brexit gave is that basic democratic right again.

I've been very patient in explaining how markets and politics work. Just read...then you won't have to keep repeating the same misunderstanding!

Have the courage of your convictions, resign,

Do you ever listen to what other people say? You seem to just stick your fingers in your ears.

What do you gain by 'discussion' in which you never engage?

And Remainers claim to be cleverer than other people.

How do you feel you are doing?"

You just keep repeating yourself, you never listen to others, so I have given up listening to you, you seem agitated, your putting to much energy and time into trying to convince yourself that Brexit is a good thing. You continue to contradict yourself and your a hypocrite for taken advantage of the very thing you are criticising, freedom of movement. You have no credibility in here and have become a laughing stock, sorry to harsh but you have to be cruel to be kind

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

Why do you dodge the points raised?

This is good. I enjoy the way you imply that your waffle about broccoli pickers was a valid point.

In what way wasn't it a valid point?

You, on the other hand, can't produce more than pretend humour.

Give it another go!

I'm not making any points here. I'm just joining in.

Keep at it.

But to answer your question, some made up nonsense about broccoli pickers, is probably not a strong argument that's going to convince anyone that brexit is a good idea.

The point about broccoli pickers was about the extent to which bad bosses had been able to force down wages in the EU era.

That is now unwinding and wages are returning to a proper labour market rate.

That is not made up. Nor is it trite"

It's very funny.

I enjoy you have such complete confidence in the anti-EU propaganda, that you don't stop for a moment to think about it.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

And Remainers claim to be cleverer than other people.

You seem to say this a lot, you seem to be the only person saying this.

I say it because Remainers say it a lot.

I don't believe it.

Dennis Skinner refers to people 'educated beyond their intelligence'. He is genuinely insightful.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

Why do you dodge the points raised?

This is good. I enjoy the way you imply that your waffle about broccoli pickers was a valid point.

In what way wasn't it a valid point?

You, on the other hand, can't produce more than pretend humour.

Give it another go!

I'm not making any points here. I'm just joining in.

Keep at it.

But to answer your question, some made up nonsense about broccoli pickers, is probably not a strong argument that's going to convince anyone that brexit is a good idea.

The point about broccoli pickers was about the extent to which bad bosses had been able to force down wages in the EU era.

That is now unwinding and wages are returning to a proper labour market rate.

That is not made up. Nor is it trite

It's very funny.

I enjoy you have such complete confidence in the anti-EU propaganda, that you don't stop for a moment to think about it.

Very revealing that you think it's funny that people's wages have been undermined. And that productivity has been ignored. And training. That two generations of workers in some industries have been cast aside.

Can you explain yourself?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

Why do you dodge the points raised?

This is good. I enjoy the way you imply that your waffle about broccoli pickers was a valid point.

In what way wasn't it a valid point?

You, on the other hand, can't produce more than pretend humour.

Give it another go!

I'm not making any points here. I'm just joining in.

Keep at it.

But to answer your question, some made up nonsense about broccoli pickers, is probably not a strong argument that's going to convince anyone that brexit is a good idea.

The point about broccoli pickers was about the extent to which bad bosses had been able to force down wages in the EU era.

That is now unwinding and wages are returning to a proper labour market rate.

That is not made up. Nor is it trite

It's very funny.

I enjoy you have such complete confidence in the anti-EU propaganda, that you don't stop for a moment to think about it.

Can you explain yourself?"

Lol

Good stuff.

I'm off for the night.

It's been fun.

Laters.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

Why do you dodge the points raised?

This is good. I enjoy the way you imply that your waffle about broccoli pickers was a valid point.

In what way wasn't it a valid point?

You, on the other hand, can't produce more than pretend humour.

Give it another go!

I'm not making any points here. I'm just joining in.

Keep at it.

But to answer your question, some made up nonsense about broccoli pickers, is probably not a strong argument that's going to convince anyone that brexit is a good idea.

The point about broccoli pickers was about the extent to which bad bosses had been able to force down wages in the EU era.

That is now unwinding and wages are returning to a proper labour market rate.

That is not made up. Nor is it trite

It's very funny.

I enjoy you have such complete confidence in the anti-EU propaganda, that you don't stop for a moment to think about it.

Can you explain yourself?

Lol

Good stuff.

I'm off for the night.

It's been fun.

Laters."

That's convenient. Any answers before you go?

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Not at all.

If you support cheap-labour exploiters and rich farmers then you are a reactionary, yes?

In what sense are you not reactionary?

In the sense that one doesn’t follow the other?

Even if I did, how would that make me specifically a ‘reactionary’? Perhaps you meant to say a different word?

If you support the EU you support the free movement of labour which cheap-labour employers used to use to undermine workers.

You understand this? It's not hard

Brexiteers grasped it years ago

Open your mind

Do you work for a ‘cheap -labour employer’ ?

No, but they exist. What's the relevance of your question?

Well, they have taken advantage of freedom of movement to employ a foreigner , so they must be ‘cheap labour employer’ tryiNg to drive down wages? Correct ?

Conversely, if you flood labour markets at the behest of bad employers you force wages down.

A reactionary move.

I explained this to you an hour ago! I'm very patient

At least you have admitted that it isn’t freedom of movement that is the problem but ‘bad employers’

No. Freedom of movement is the problem. It is supported by bad employers and used by bad employers.

Marx called it the 'reserve army of labour'. Why are you on the wrong side?

So freedom movement is bad? Even though you and your employer have taken advantage of this, your being a hypocrite, not a good look

Freedom of movement is thoroughly bad if uncontrolled, yes. Brexiteers campaigned for the right for each country to set its own level of immigration.

Why is that wrong?

Why do you support bad employers who want to flood labour markets?

I think you fail to grasp my point. Too many years of sucking up propaganda maybe?

Read my points again

I have read them, if you want credible and respect (for yourself and others) resign on a point of principle , be brave, be noble

It's to do with control of your borders. We had no control while in the EU when any of 465m people could enter Britain and work for little.

Brexit gave is that basic democratic right again.

I've been very patient in explaining how markets and politics work. Just read...then you won't have to keep repeating the same misunderstanding!

Have the courage of your convictions, resign,

Do you ever listen to what other people say? You seem to just stick your fingers in your ears.

What do you gain by 'discussion' in which you never engage?

And Remainers claim to be cleverer than other people.

How do you feel you are doing?

A convenient exit. I'm not trying to convince myself... I'm trying to convince you.

A bit unsure of your arguments, eh?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And Remainers claim to be cleverer than other people.

You seem to say this a lot, you seem to be the only person saying this.

I say it because Remainers say it a lot.

I don't believe it.

Dennis Skinner refers to people 'educated beyond their intelligence'. He is genuinely insightful."

God the irony is almost unbearable.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

Why do you dodge the points raised?

This is good. I enjoy the way you imply that your waffle about broccoli pickers was a valid point.

In what way wasn't it a valid point?

You, on the other hand, can't produce more than pretend humour.

Give it another go!

I'm not making any points here. I'm just joining in.

Keep at it.

But to answer your question, some made up nonsense about broccoli pickers, is probably not a strong argument that's going to convince anyone that brexit is a good idea.

The point about broccoli pickers was about the extent to which bad bosses had been able to force down wages in the EU era.

That is now unwinding and wages are returning to a proper labour market rate.

That is not made up. Nor is it trite

It's very funny.

I enjoy you have such complete confidence in the anti-EU propaganda, that you don't stop for a moment to think about it.

Can you explain yourself?

Lol

Good stuff.

I'm off for the night.

It's been fun.

Laters.

That's convenient. Any answers before you go?"

It was very convenient, I completely agree. I was tired and needed to go to bed at bed time.

It's a good system.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

Is anything I say incorrect?

You may pretend to laugh but you never appear to answer what I say, do you?"

Well if the shoe fits! You avoid all difficult questions across multiple threads by throwing out your latest hyperbolic sweeping statement. I don’t need to address many of your points because your arguments are illogical.

You keep implying people who wanted to remain supported low wages while concurrently arguing that trade deals like the one with NZ are good because it will lower prices for consumers but without addressing the oxymoron in your argument that this will actually put pressure on UK farmers and supply chain to reduce production costs that will therefore put pressure on to reduce wages!

Last time I will say this (because it really is Janet & John economics) if a thing costs more to produce then it will cost more to buy! It really is that simple.

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By *or Fox SakeCouple
over a year ago

Thornaby

Someone is seriously uninformed looking at the posts above.

We joined the EU as fundamentally our industry and business was inefficient, only by exposing it to competition could it raise its game.

The comments about freedom of movement are completely wrong. "We had no control", wrong, simply wrong.

Freedom of movement reduced wages, no study or report has arrived at that conclusion ( that I've been able to recall ).

Trying to use Marx to validate ill-informed nonsense is a great example of the art of straw clutching.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

Adrianuk = “It's to do with control of your borders. We had no control while in the EU when any of 465m people could enter Britain and work for little.”

Ignoring the fact that millions of Brits also took advantage of FoM to live and work across Europe, including ironically adrian himself who appears to live and work in Spain?

It’s like “I’m voting to remove freedoms I have enjoyed so you the younger generation cannot have them - aren’t I so altruistic”.

Major major hypocrisy that lacks any credibility - which is why I believe this is parody because surely nobody us THAT lacking in self awareness?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even broccoli pickers are now on an hourly rate of £30,000 due to removal of cheap foreign labour.

Any Remainers want to say they should have their pay cut?

Lol.

Why would "remainers" want broccoli pickers to be payed less?

You come to the strangest conclusions.

It's a logical conclusion. Brexiteers want to strengthen workers in the labour market by reducing supply of cheap labour. Remainers hate to see that happening and hate the result.

It's embarrassing

Did your Spanish employers employ you because your ‘cheap foreign labour’ ?

They can't afford me

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Do you feel guilty that you are driving down wages for the people of Spain ?

No, because I'm not.

Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, Hugh Gaitskell, Eric Heffer etc etc all knew that the EU existed to undermine wages and force up prices

Tory Ted Heath supported it for that reason.

And yet this threads Remainers don't recognize how reactionary they are

Not at all.

If you support cheap-labour exploiters and rich farmers then you are a reactionary, yes?

In what sense are you not reactionary?

In the sense that one doesn’t follow the other?

Even if I did, how would that make me specifically a ‘reactionary’? Perhaps you meant to say a different word?

If you support the EU you support the free movement of labour which cheap-labour employers used to use to undermine workers.

You understand this? It's not hard

Brexiteers grasped it years ago

Open your mind

Ah the hyperbolic avoidance technique! Well played!

I don't know what you're on about.

Try and explain why you're not a reactionary.

No, come on now, I asked first.

You're just a reactionary. You support a low-wage economy and protectionism for landowners.

Have a good think.

Brexiteers stand for the opposite. Open your mind

The prosecution rests your honour.

No case rested until you have answered the points, you old reactionary.

Why do you dodge the points raised?"

I guess it’s the sheer futility.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

Adrianuk = “The point about broccoli pickers was about the extent to which bad bosses had been able to force down wages in the EU era.

That is now unwinding and wages are returning to a proper labour market rate.”

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Adrianuk = “The point about broccoli pickers was about the extent to which bad bosses had been able to force down wages in the EU era.

That is now unwinding and wages are returning to a proper labour market rate.”

So Adrian how sustainable will that be when the UK signs a NZ trade deal with a country producing cheaper broccoli? How long until those UK producers cannot compete with cheaper (for the consumer) foreign imports? What will happen to enable UK producers to reduce their production costs?"
You do understand that broccoli is seasonal and new zealand is in the southern hemisphere so will it will not be competing with uk broccoli?

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"The OBR are saying Brexit will negatively impact the economy by TWICE the amount caused by the biggest pandemic in 100 years. Looking good huh?

So much ‘winning ‘

it is winning for you mate any bad news is good news to you

Come on then, give us some positives about Brexit? "
when I posted jobs boost for Teesside all you could muster was great news same with Nissan anything posite and you and your squad don’t want to know we all read your posts you know I’m not lying mate

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

And Remainers claim to be cleverer than other people.

You seem to say this a lot, you seem to be the only person saying this.

I say it because Remainers say it a lot.

I don't believe it.

Dennis Skinner refers to people 'educated beyond their intelligence'. He is genuinely insightful.

God the irony is almost unbearable."

Everyone needs to look at themselves sometimes...and it's perfectly clear that many Remainers know little about what they voted for.

This thread makes that very clear

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By *or Fox SakeCouple
over a year ago

Thornaby

And Remainers claim to be cleverer than other people.

You seem to say this a lot, you seem to be the only person saying this.

I say it because Remainers say it a lot.

I don't believe it.

Dennis Skinner refers to people 'educated beyond their intelligence'. He is genuinely insightful.

God the irony is almost unbearable.

Everyone needs to look at themselves sometimes...and it's perfectly clear that many Remainers know little about what they voted for.

This thread makes that very clear"

more nonsense

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

And Remainers claim to be cleverer than other people.

You seem to say this a lot, you seem to be the only person saying this.

I say it because Remainers say it a lot.

I don't believe it.

Dennis Skinner refers to people 'educated beyond their intelligence'. He is genuinely insightful.

God the irony is almost unbearable.

Everyone needs to look at themselves sometimes...and it's perfectly clear that many Remainers know little about what they voted for.

This thread makes that very clear"

So remainers didn't know they were voting to remain in the EU?

Bold claim. Do you have any evidence to back this up?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The OBR are saying Brexit will negatively impact the economy by TWICE the amount caused by the biggest pandemic in 100 years. Looking good huh?

So much ‘winning ‘

it is winning for you mate any bad news is good news to you

Come on then, give us some positives about Brexit? when I posted jobs boost for Teesside all you could muster was great news same with Nissan anything posite and you and your squad don’t want to know we all read your posts you know I’m not lying mate "

What has that got to do with Brexit

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"The OBR are saying Brexit will negatively impact the economy by TWICE the amount caused by the biggest pandemic in 100 years. Looking good huh?

So much ‘winning ‘

it is winning for you mate any bad news is good news to you

What has that got to do with Brexit "
nothing it’s to do with my post about you only commenting on anything negative keep up mate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And Remainers claim to be cleverer than other people.

You seem to say this a lot, you seem to be the only person saying this.

I say it because Remainers say it a lot.

I don't believe it.

Dennis Skinner refers to people 'educated beyond their intelligence'. He is genuinely insightful.

God the irony is almost unbearable.

Everyone needs to look at themselves sometimes...and it's perfectly clear that many Remainers know little about what they voted for.

This thread makes that very clear"

Would it be terribly passé of me to invoke the ‘when you’re stuck in a hole’ maxim? If so, I apologise in advance.

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By *or Fox SakeCouple
over a year ago

Thornaby

"The OBR are saying Brexit will negatively impact the economy by TWICE the amount caused by the biggest pandemic in 100 years. Looking good huh?

So much ‘winning ‘

it is winning for you mate any bad news is good news to you

What has that got to do with Brexit nothing it’s to do with my post about you only commenting on anything negative keep up mate "

but surely, for someone so positive, you must be able to trot out the benefits of brexit?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The OBR are saying Brexit will negatively impact the economy by TWICE the amount caused by the biggest pandemic in 100 years. Looking good huh?

So much ‘winning ‘

it is winning for you mate any bad news is good news to you

What has that got to do with Brexit nothing it’s to do with my post about you only commenting on anything negative keep up mate "

Did you see my comments on praising the increase in the minimum wage, I also stated that the NE deserves the jobs and I was pleased for them, your free to post anything positive about Brexit

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

More Brexit winning! Oh those benefits are just flying in!

The Office for Budget Responsibility, in its report on Wednesday’s budget, estimates that the long-term impact of Brexit will be more than twice as great as Covid. It thinks that Brexit will reduce UK productivity, and hence GDP per capita, by 4%, while the impact of Covid on GDP will only be 2%, with a slightly smaller impact on GDP per capita.

Brexit is, by its nature, a long-term issue (unlike Covid). Just as it took decades for the UK to see the full benefits of EU membership, we’ll still be discussing the economic impacts of Brexit for decades.

In common with external analysts, the OBR sees no evidence that trade deals with third countries, or any of the other putative economic benefits of Brexit, will offset this in any meaningful way.

The news here is that the OBR has taken a hard look at the evidence to date on the actual impact of Brexit. Its conclusion, briefly, is: “so far, so bad”.

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"Adrianuk = “The point about broccoli pickers was about the extent to which bad bosses had been able to force down wages in the EU era.

That is now unwinding and wages are returning to a proper labour market rate.”

So Adrian how sustainable will that be when the UK signs a NZ trade deal with a country producing cheaper broccoli? How long until those UK producers cannot compete with cheaper (for the consumer) foreign imports? What will happen to enable UK producers to reduce their production costs?You do understand that broccoli is seasonal and new zealand is in the southern hemisphere so will it will not be competing with uk broccoli?

Actually its able to be double cropped and with variable varieties we are close to be able to harvest year round. Research such as that at the John Innes Centre states we should be able under rudimentary cover be able to be cropped 4-5 times a year. ( Googled this - every day is a school day)

In addition intercropping is increasing whereby two types of crop growing at different rates are crammed into the same field but harvested at different times. Very good use of the land.

Farming is working towards year round production wherever possible to get most value

We import a some broccoli from Europe . Not great for the environment to get it from the other side of the world. We also have no control over pesticides used . We know the EU levels are controlled.

Cheap imports will hurt U.K. farming and food processors.

Government put tariffs on products to protect home producers it’s not a rich man’s game it’s about protecting industry and farming in the U.K.

for the record the average farmers has an income of £46k a year according to government stats . Rolling in it obviously .

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By *lderguy4uMan
over a year ago

wirral

"Are you going to answer the question you are conveniently avoiding on part 1?

Repeat it here please .To your statement supply problems are down to brexit.

Is it only the uk who are experiencing supply problems?

The UK is the only country experiencing supply problems caused by brexit. "

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By *lderguy4uMan
over a year ago

wirral

"Are you going to answer the question you are conveniently avoiding on part 1?

Repeat it here please .To your statement supply problems are down to brexit.

Is it only the uk who are experiencing supply problems?

The UK is the only country experiencing supply problems caused by brexit. "

Wrong I've just come back Spain and Germany are having the same problems thousands of truck drivers short and there still in the Mickey Mouse EU

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