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"Due to whole fuel crisis that isn't a fuel crisis (honest) and doesn't exist (double honest) and has nothing to do with Brexit (triple honest) the government reversed a bit of Brexit to issue 3 month visas to drivers from the EU. We issued 300 of these visas. 27 drivers applied. 1 driver per member state. How poetic. Downing Street is said to be very pissed off. " Bloody EU nationals, refusing to come over here and pinch ‘our ‘ jobs, | |||
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"Due to whole fuel crisis that isn't a fuel crisis (honest) and doesn't exist (double honest) and has nothing to do with Brexit (triple honest) the government reversed a bit of Brexit to issue 3 month visas to drivers from the EU. We issued 300 of these visas. 27 drivers applied. 1 driver per member state. How poetic. Downing Street is said to be very pissed off. Bloody EU nationals, refusing to come over here and pinch ‘our ‘ jobs, " They're just being unreasonable, aren't they? | |||
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"Due to whole fuel crisis that isn't a fuel crisis (honest) and doesn't exist (double honest) and has nothing to do with Brexit (triple honest) the government reversed a bit of Brexit to issue 3 month visas to drivers from the EU. We issued 300 of these visas. 27 drivers applied. 1 driver per member state. How poetic. Downing Street is said to be very pissed off. Bloody EU nationals, refusing to come over here and pinch ‘our ‘ jobs, They're just being unreasonable, aren't they?" Yep, it just proves that we were right to leave the EU, I don’t understand why they won’t come here for 3 months ? Maybe they realise that it is British jobs for British people | |||
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"Due to whole fuel crisis that isn't a fuel crisis (honest) and doesn't exist (double honest) and has nothing to do with Brexit (triple honest) the government reversed a bit of Brexit to issue 3 month visas to drivers from the EU. We issued 300 of these visas. 27 drivers applied. 1 driver per member state. How poetic. Downing Street is said to be very pissed off. Bloody EU nationals, refusing to come over here and pinch ‘our ‘ jobs, They're just being unreasonable, aren't they? Yep, it just proves that we were right to leave the EU, I don’t understand why they won’t come here for 3 months ? Maybe they realise that it is British jobs for British people " In other news, the French government is proposing to announce 5 year visas for British nationals to work in France as lorry drivers. So a 3 month visa, or a 5 year visa. Let's see who gets the applications ? | |||
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"Due to whole fuel crisis that isn't a fuel crisis (honest) and doesn't exist (double honest) and has nothing to do with Brexit (triple honest) the government reversed a bit of Brexit to issue 3 month visas to drivers from the EU. We issued 300 of these visas. 27 drivers applied. 1 driver per member state. How poetic. Downing Street is said to be very pissed off. Bloody EU nationals, refusing to come over here and pinch ‘our ‘ jobs, They're just being unreasonable, aren't they? Yep, it just proves that we were right to leave the EU, I don’t understand why they won’t come here for 3 months ? Maybe they realise that it is British jobs for British people In other news, the French government is proposing to announce 5 year visas for British nationals to work in France as lorry drivers. So a 3 month visa, or a 5 year visa. Let's see who gets the applications ?" uh oh... | |||
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"Due to whole fuel crisis that isn't a fuel crisis (honest) and doesn't exist (double honest) and has nothing to do with Brexit (triple honest) the government reversed a bit of Brexit to issue 3 month visas to drivers from the EU. We issued 300 of these visas. 27 drivers applied. 1 driver per member state. How poetic. Downing Street is said to be very pissed off. Bloody EU nationals, refusing to come over here and pinch ‘our ‘ jobs, They're just being unreasonable, aren't they? Yep, it just proves that we were right to leave the EU, I don’t understand why they won’t come here for 3 months ? Maybe they realise that it is British jobs for British people In other news, the French government is proposing to announce 5 year visas for British nationals to work in France as lorry drivers. So a 3 month visa, or a 5 year visa. Let's see who gets the applications ?" Is their shortage due to Brexit too then? strange as i thought according to some its just a uk problem.  | |||
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"Due to whole fuel crisis that isn't a fuel crisis (honest) and doesn't exist (double honest) and has nothing to do with Brexit (triple honest) the government reversed a bit of Brexit to issue 3 month visas to drivers from the EU. We issued 300 of these visas. 27 drivers applied. 1 driver per member state. How poetic. Downing Street is said to be very pissed off. " The report i read stated 127 applications had been received not 27, are you sure your figures correct mate? | |||
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"Due to whole fuel crisis that isn't a fuel crisis (honest) and doesn't exist (double honest) and has nothing to do with Brexit (triple honest) the government reversed a bit of Brexit to issue 3 month visas to drivers from the EU. We issued 300 of these visas. 27 drivers applied. 1 driver per member state. How poetic. Downing Street is said to be very pissed off. The report i read stated 127 applications had been received not 27, are you sure your figures correct mate?" Snap 
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"127 have applied so far, 27 of which are licensed to haul fuel " That makes more sense, I am guessing those qualifications needed for fuel haulage will mean there are very few spare drivers available on the continent either judging by the shortages of drivers that they have also. | |||
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"Due to whole fuel crisis that isn't a fuel crisis (honest) and doesn't exist (double honest) and has nothing to do with Brexit (triple honest) the government reversed a bit of Brexit to issue 3 month visas to drivers from the EU. We issued 300 of these visas. 27 drivers applied. 1 driver per member state. How poetic. Downing Street is said to be very pissed off. Bloody EU nationals, refusing to come over here and pinch ‘our ‘ jobs, They're just being unreasonable, aren't they? Yep, it just proves that we were right to leave the EU, I don’t understand why they won’t come here for 3 months ? Maybe they realise that it is British jobs for British people In other news, the French government is proposing to announce 5 year visas for British nationals to work in France as lorry drivers. So a 3 month visa, or a 5 year visa. Let's see who gets the applications ?Is their shortage due to Brexit too then? strange as i thought according to some its just a uk problem. "Don't think anyone on here has said that, perhaps you are just a bit confused? | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums." Do you know why there were empty shelves in Belgium? | |||
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Is this the 'I believed the BBC again' emoji?"It's amusing that you think I'm a fan of the BBC. I'm not. The 27 visas story has been widely reported in various places. | |||
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Is this the 'I believed the BBC again' emoji?
It's amusing that you think I'm a fan of the BBC. I'm not.
The 27 visas story has been widely reported in various places."You mean the 127 | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums." Only the UK has a lack of fuel and food being in the right place. Rest of Europe, not so much, that includes northern Ireland | |||
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Is this the 'I believed the BBC again' emoji?
It's amusing that you think I'm a fan of the BBC. I'm not.
The 27 visas story has been widely reported in various places.
You mean the 127"127 is still pathetic | |||
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Is this the 'I believed the BBC again' emoji?
It's amusing that you think I'm a fan of the BBC. I'm not.
The 27 visas story has been widely reported in various places.
You mean the 127"As explained above, 127 application, only 27 tanker drivers. | |||
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Is this the 'I believed the BBC again' emoji?
It's amusing that you think I'm a fan of the BBC. I'm not.
The 27 visas story has been widely reported in various places.
You mean the 127"127 according to Johnson. Based on his track record with saying anything remotely truthful, I don't exactly take him at his word. (Then again, 127 might be the truth. He could have accidentally told the truth for the 1st time in his life.) | |||
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Is this the 'I believed the BBC again' emoji?
It's amusing that you think I'm a fan of the BBC. I'm not.
The 27 visas story has been widely reported in various places.
You mean the 127
As explained above, 127 application, only 27 tanker drivers."Yes I know, I explained it | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Do you know why there were empty shelves in Belgium? " Yes I do know, not the same issue as ours but still no mention of it either or the other things I mentioned with regards to energy prices etc. | |||
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Is this the 'I believed the BBC again' emoji?
It's amusing that you think I'm a fan of the BBC. I'm not.
The 27 visas story has been widely reported in various places.
You mean the 127
127 according to Johnson. Based on his track record with saying anything remotely truthful, I don't exactly take him at his word.
(Then again, 127 might be the truth. He could have accidentally told the truth for the 1st time in his life.)"But you believed it when you thought it was 27. You see where I'm going with this | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Only the UK has a lack of fuel and food being in the right place. Rest of Europe, not so much, that includes northern Ireland" Agreed, but I didn't just mention fuel, I mentioned a series of issues from all over the world, some the same as ours and some not. My point was how biased the forum is to uk issues, there were all sorts on here the other day about rising energy prices in the UK and how it was all brexit and governments fault yet no mention of France and Spain having the same problems and asking the EU commission to come up with answers, as I said the forum is biased, I get that some here only want to complain about brexit all the while and they get off on these posts in the forum, but they are not a true representation of the world we live in and are very often worded in such a way as to inflate a situation to the ops narrative. | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Do you know why there were empty shelves in Belgium? Yes I do know, not the same issue as ours but still no mention of it either or the other things I mentioned with regards to energy prices etc." Eh? You mentioned empty shelves in Belgium above, implying it was caused by the same reason as our empty shelves here. Strangely, you didn't mention the fact that Belgium had empty shelves due to a strike. Despite the fact you seem to know that. | |||
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Is this the 'I believed the BBC again' emoji?
It's amusing that you think I'm a fan of the BBC. I'm not.
The 27 visas story has been widely reported in various places.
You mean the 127
127 according to Johnson. Based on his track record with saying anything remotely truthful, I don't exactly take him at his word.
(Then again, 127 might be the truth. He could have accidentally told the truth for the 1st time in his life.)
But you believed it when you thought it was 27. You see where I'm going with this"Hmmm what is better to believe? A story reported via multiple outlets that are generally fact based? Or our Prime Minister who doesn't even seem to know what truth is. | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Do you know why there were empty shelves in Belgium? Yes I do know, not the same issue as ours but still no mention of it either or the other things I mentioned with regards to energy prices etc. Eh? You mentioned empty shelves in Belgium above, implying it was caused by the same reason as our empty shelves here. Strangely, you didn't mention the fact that Belgium had empty shelves due to a strike. Despite the fact you seem to know that." I didn't imply anything, i mentioned a series of issues in various different places. You took it to imply that because it fits your narrative with brexit, but I wasn't talking about brexit, I was talking about the bias of the forum in general to which your response proves the point i was making. | |||
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Is this the 'I believed the BBC again' emoji?
It's amusing that you think I'm a fan of the BBC. I'm not.
The 27 visas story has been widely reported in various places.
You mean the 127
127 according to Johnson. Based on his track record with saying anything remotely truthful, I don't exactly take him at his word.
(Then again, 127 might be the truth. He could have accidentally told the truth for the 1st time in his life.)
But you believed it when you thought it was 27. You see where I'm going with this
Hmmm what is better to believe? A story reported via multiple outlets that are generally fact based? Or our Prime Minister who doesn't even seem to know what truth is."A story that you still got wrong. So you'll forgive me for doubting the validity of your posts | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Do you know why there were empty shelves in Belgium? Yes I do know, not the same issue as ours but still no mention of it either or the other things I mentioned with regards to energy prices etc. Eh? You mentioned empty shelves in Belgium above, implying it was caused by the same reason as our empty shelves here. Strangely, you didn't mention the fact that Belgium had empty shelves due to a strike. Despite the fact you seem to know that. I didn't imply anything, i mentioned a series of issues in various different places. You took it to imply that because it fits your narrative with brexit, but I wasn't talking about brexit, I was talking about the bias of the forum in general to which your response proves the point i was making. " mhm | |||
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Is this the 'I believed the BBC again' emoji?
It's amusing that you think I'm a fan of the BBC. I'm not.
The 27 visas story has been widely reported in various places.
You mean the 127
127 according to Johnson. Based on his track record with saying anything remotely truthful, I don't exactly take him at his word.
(Then again, 127 might be the truth. He could have accidentally told the truth for the 1st time in his life.)
But you believed it when you thought it was 27. You see where I'm going with this
Hmmm what is better to believe? A story reported via multiple outlets that are generally fact based? Or our Prime Minister who doesn't even seem to know what truth is.
A story that you still got wrong. So you'll forgive me for doubting the validity of your posts "Doubt away, my smiley friend. | |||
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Is this the 'I believed the BBC again' emoji?
It's amusing that you think I'm a fan of the BBC. I'm not.
The 27 visas story has been widely reported in various places.
You mean the 127
127 according to Johnson. Based on his track record with saying anything remotely truthful, I don't exactly take him at his word.
(Then again, 127 might be the truth. He could have accidentally told the truth for the 1st time in his life.)
But you believed it when you thought it was 27. You see where I'm going with this
Hmmm what is better to believe? A story reported via multiple outlets that are generally fact based? Or our Prime Minister who doesn't even seem to know what truth is.
A story that you still got wrong. So you'll forgive me for doubting the validity of your posts
Doubt away, my smiley friend." | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums." Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially " Nope, nobody is saying every problem is down to Brexit. But it's ludicrous to pretend Brexit hasn't caused us huge damage. In a way, the Tories got v lucky. Whenever anything goes wrong, they jump up and down screaming that it's all caused by Covid. It's a strategy that clearly works with certain people, based on your post. | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially " Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic " Can we include the procurement of the vaccine? | |||
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Is this the 'I believed the BBC again' emoji?
It's amusing that you think I'm a fan of the BBC. I'm not.
The 27 visas story has been widely reported in various places.
You mean the 127
127 according to Johnson. Based on his track record with saying anything remotely truthful, I don't exactly take him at his word.
(Then again, 127 might be the truth. He could have accidentally told the truth for the 1st time in his life.)
But you believed it when you thought it was 27. You see where I'm going with this
Hmmm what is better to believe? A story reported via multiple outlets that are generally fact based? Or our Prime Minister who doesn't even seem to know what truth is.
A story that you still got wrong. So you'll forgive me for doubting the validity of your posts "PS "The Times of London reported that there had only been 27 applications. Asked by Fortune to clear up the confusion, the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy confirmed that figure." | |||
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Is this the 'I believed the BBC again' emoji?
It's amusing that you think I'm a fan of the BBC. I'm not.
The 27 visas story has been widely reported in various places.
You mean the 127
127 according to Johnson. Based on his track record with saying anything remotely truthful, I don't exactly take him at his word.
(Then again, 127 might be the truth. He could have accidentally told the truth for the 1st time in his life.)
But you believed it when you thought it was 27. You see where I'm going with this
Hmmm what is better to believe? A story reported via multiple outlets that are generally fact based? Or our Prime Minister who doesn't even seem to know what truth is.
A story that you still got wrong. So you'll forgive me for doubting the validity of your posts
PS "The Times of London reported that there had only been 27 applications. Asked by Fortune to clear up the confusion, the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy confirmed that figure.""The Times reported that there had been 27 tanker driver applications as I stated in my first post | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic Can we include the procurement of the vaccine? "Did we have to leave the EU to ‘procure’ the vaccine? | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic Can we include the procurement of the vaccine?
Did we have to leave the EU to ‘procure’ the vaccine? "That old chestnut does keep popping up, doesn't it? | |||
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Is this the 'I believed the BBC again' emoji?
It's amusing that you think I'm a fan of the BBC. I'm not.
The 27 visas story has been widely reported in various places.
You mean the 127
127 according to Johnson. Based on his track record with saying anything remotely truthful, I don't exactly take him at his word.
(Then again, 127 might be the truth. He could have accidentally told the truth for the 1st time in his life.)
But you believed it when you thought it was 27. You see where I'm going with this
Hmmm what is better to believe? A story reported via multiple outlets that are generally fact based? Or our Prime Minister who doesn't even seem to know what truth is.
A story that you still got wrong. So you'll forgive me for doubting the validity of your posts
PS "The Times of London reported that there had only been 27 applications. Asked by Fortune to clear up the confusion, the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy confirmed that figure."
The Times reported that there had been 27 tanker driver applications as I stated in my first post"Not even sure what the argument is here. Be well, I guess. | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic Can we include the procurement of the vaccine?
Did we have to leave the EU to ‘procure’ the vaccine? "No but that wasn't what you asked. You didn't get the answer you wanted so yet again you just ask another question
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic Can we include the procurement of the vaccine?
Did we have to leave the EU to ‘procure’ the vaccine?
That old chestnut does keep popping up, doesn't it?"Yep, I guess it all they have | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic Can we include the procurement of the vaccine?
Did we have to leave the EU to ‘procure’ the vaccine?
No but that wasn't what you asked. You didn't get the answer you wanted so yet again you just ask another question
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Is this the 'I believed the BBC again' emoji?
It's amusing that you think I'm a fan of the BBC. I'm not.
The 27 visas story has been widely reported in various places.
You mean the 127
127 according to Johnson. Based on his track record with saying anything remotely truthful, I don't exactly take him at his word.
(Then again, 127 might be the truth. He could have accidentally told the truth for the 1st time in his life.)
But you believed it when you thought it was 27. You see where I'm going with this
Hmmm what is better to believe? A story reported via multiple outlets that are generally fact based? Or our Prime Minister who doesn't even seem to know what truth is.
A story that you still got wrong. So you'll forgive me for doubting the validity of your posts
PS "The Times of London reported that there had only been 27 applications. Asked by Fortune to clear up the confusion, the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy confirmed that figure."
The Times reported that there had been 27 tanker driver applications as I stated in my first post
Not even sure what the argument is here. Be well, I guess."All the posts are still there, it's perfectly simple but all the best to you too | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic Can we include the procurement of the vaccine?
Did we have to leave the EU to ‘procure’ the vaccine?
No but that wasn't what you asked. You didn't get the answer you wanted so yet again you just ask another question
Did you read my initial question to Foxy? I will ask you the same question , has Brexit helped solve the problems caused by the pandemic ? "Yes I read your question and anyone with two brain cells would reject the premise. You seem to be asserting that Brexit should somehow have helped with a worldwide pandemic | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic Can we include the procurement of the vaccine?
Did we have to leave the EU to ‘procure’ the vaccine?
No but that wasn't what you asked. You didn't get the answer you wanted so yet again you just ask another question
Did you read my initial question to Foxy? I will ask you the same question , has Brexit helped solve the problems caused by the pandemic ?
Yes I read your question and anyone with two brain cells would reject the premise. You seem to be asserting that Brexit should somehow have helped with a worldwide pandemic"Is that a yes or a no? Why wouldn’t Brexit help? | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic Can we include the procurement of the vaccine?
Did we have to leave the EU to ‘procure’ the vaccine?
No but that wasn't what you asked. You didn't get the answer you wanted so yet again you just ask another question
Did you read my initial question to Foxy? I will ask you the same question , has Brexit helped solve the problems caused by the pandemic ?
Yes I read your question and anyone with two brain cells would reject the premise. You seem to be asserting that Brexit should somehow have helped with a worldwide pandemic
Is that a yes or a no? Why wouldn’t Brexit help? "Again, your premise is that it should have helped. The onus is on you to provide an explanation as to why you think it should have helped to even phrase your question in that way | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic Can we include the procurement of the vaccine?
Did we have to leave the EU to ‘procure’ the vaccine?
No but that wasn't what you asked. You didn't get the answer you wanted so yet again you just ask another question
Did you read my initial question to Foxy? I will ask you the same question , has Brexit helped solve the problems caused by the pandemic ?
Yes I read your question and anyone with two brain cells would reject the premise. You seem to be asserting that Brexit should somehow have helped with a worldwide pandemic"BoJo should be down on his knees in thanks for covid ( despite it being a Vile horrid disease responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths ). It's given him a brilliant excuse for the many many botch jobs and fiascos he's unleashed. | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic Can we include the procurement of the vaccine?
Did we have to leave the EU to ‘procure’ the vaccine?
No but that wasn't what you asked. You didn't get the answer you wanted so yet again you just ask another question
Did you read my initial question to Foxy? I will ask you the same question , has Brexit helped solve the problems caused by the pandemic ?
Yes I read your question and anyone with two brain cells would reject the premise. You seem to be asserting that Brexit should somehow have helped with a worldwide pandemic
BoJo should be down on his knees in thanks for covid ( despite it being a Vile horrid disease responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths ). It's given him a brilliant excuse for the many many botch jobs and fiascos he's unleashed."OK, thanks for your input | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic Can we include the procurement of the vaccine?
Did we have to leave the EU to ‘procure’ the vaccine?
No but that wasn't what you asked. You didn't get the answer you wanted so yet again you just ask another question
Did you read my initial question to Foxy? I will ask you the same question , has Brexit helped solve the problems caused by the pandemic ?
Yes I read your question and anyone with two brain cells would reject the premise. You seem to be asserting that Brexit should somehow have helped with a worldwide pandemic
Is that a yes or a no? Why wouldn’t Brexit help?
Again, your premise is that it should have helped. The onus is on you to provide an explanation as to why you think it should have helped to even phrase your question in that way"Sovereignty Control Freedom | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic Can we include the procurement of the vaccine?
Did we have to leave the EU to ‘procure’ the vaccine?
No but that wasn't what you asked. You didn't get the answer you wanted so yet again you just ask another question
Did you read my initial question to Foxy? I will ask you the same question , has Brexit helped solve the problems caused by the pandemic ?
Yes I read your question and anyone with two brain cells would reject the premise. You seem to be asserting that Brexit should somehow have helped with a worldwide pandemic
Is that a yes or a no? Why wouldn’t Brexit help?
Again, your premise is that it should have helped. The onus is on you to provide an explanation as to why you think it should have helped to even phrase your question in that way
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"But you've just listed a few things that presumably people who voted for Brexit wanted. Your question asserts that Brexit should have somehow benefited the country in the unlikely event of a pandemic. Why should it have? | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic Can we include the procurement of the vaccine?
Did we have to leave the EU to ‘procure’ the vaccine?
No but that wasn't what you asked. You didn't get the answer you wanted so yet again you just ask another question
Did you read my initial question to Foxy? I will ask you the same question , has Brexit helped solve the problems caused by the pandemic ?
Yes I read your question and anyone with two brain cells would reject the premise. You seem to be asserting that Brexit should somehow have helped with a worldwide pandemic
Is that a yes or a no? Why wouldn’t Brexit help?
Again, your premise is that it should have helped. The onus is on you to provide an explanation as to why you think it should have helped to even phrase your question in that way
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"That's genuinely funny We have so much sovrinty we can't trade easily with northern Ireland We have complete control of trade deals to the extent other countries won't touch us with a barge pole We have complete freedom to move between Sussex and Essex, subject to covid restraint in force at the time | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic Can we include the procurement of the vaccine?
Did we have to leave the EU to ‘procure’ the vaccine?
No but that wasn't what you asked. You didn't get the answer you wanted so yet again you just ask another question
Did you read my initial question to Foxy? I will ask you the same question , has Brexit helped solve the problems caused by the pandemic ?
Yes I read your question and anyone with two brain cells would reject the premise. You seem to be asserting that Brexit should somehow have helped with a worldwide pandemic
Is that a yes or a no? Why wouldn’t Brexit help?
Again, your premise is that it should have helped. The onus is on you to provide an explanation as to why you think it should have helped to even phrase your question in that way
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But you've just listed a few things that presumably people who voted for Brexit wanted. Your question asserts that Brexit should have somehow benefited the country in the unlikely event of a pandemic. Why should it have?
"Because we now have Sovereignty Control Freedom We are free from the shackles of the ‘evil’ ‘tyrannical’ ‘EU , surely that should help ? | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic " no of corse not why would it we’ve only just left and wam we had covid to deal with covid is way worse than fucking brexit don’t you think | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic no of corse not why would it we’ve only just left and wam we had covid to deal with covid is way worse than fucking brexit don’t you think " The brexit referendum was 4 years ago | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic Can we include the procurement of the vaccine?
Did we have to leave the EU to ‘procure’ the vaccine?
No but that wasn't what you asked. You didn't get the answer you wanted so yet again you just ask another question
Did you read my initial question to Foxy? I will ask you the same question , has Brexit helped solve the problems caused by the pandemic ?
Yes I read your question and anyone with two brain cells would reject the premise. You seem to be asserting that Brexit should somehow have helped with a worldwide pandemic
Is that a yes or a no? Why wouldn’t Brexit help?
Again, your premise is that it should have helped. The onus is on you to provide an explanation as to why you think it should have helped to even phrase your question in that way
Sovereignty
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But you've just listed a few things that presumably people who voted for Brexit wanted. Your question asserts that Brexit should have somehow benefited the country in the unlikely event of a pandemic. Why should it have?
Because we now have
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We are free from the shackles of the ‘evil’ ‘tyrannical’ ‘EU , surely that should help ? "So are you saying those things made the pandemic worse? | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic no of corse not why would it we’ve only just left and wam we had covid to deal with covid is way worse than fucking brexit don’t you think The brexit referendum was 4 years ago" really I thought it was 5 lol I was replying to a post from fabtastic thank you | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic Can we include the procurement of the vaccine?
Did we have to leave the EU to ‘procure’ the vaccine?
No but that wasn't what you asked. You didn't get the answer you wanted so yet again you just ask another question
Did you read my initial question to Foxy? I will ask you the same question , has Brexit helped solve the problems caused by the pandemic ?
Yes I read your question and anyone with two brain cells would reject the premise. You seem to be asserting that Brexit should somehow have helped with a worldwide pandemic
Is that a yes or a no? Why wouldn’t Brexit help?
Again, your premise is that it should have helped. The onus is on you to provide an explanation as to why you think it should have helped to even phrase your question in that way
Sovereignty
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Freedom
But you've just listed a few things that presumably people who voted for Brexit wanted. Your question asserts that Brexit should have somehow benefited the country in the unlikely event of a pandemic. Why should it have?
Because we now have
Sovereignty
Control
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We are free from the shackles of the ‘evil’ ‘tyrannical’ ‘EU , surely that should help ?
So are you saying those things made the pandemic worse?"I will simplify this for you as your obviously a little confused, we have a shortage of HGV drivers, Brexit stopped freedom of movement forcing some EU drivers to leave the UK and stoped UK haulage companies from recruiting from the EU. This has made the problem worse, not better . | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic no of corse not why would it we’ve only just left and wam we had covid to deal with covid is way worse than fucking brexit don’t you think The brexit referendum was 4 years agoreally I thought it was 5 lol I was replying to a post from fabtastic thank you " God, 5 years ago and still delivered nothing. | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic Can we include the procurement of the vaccine?
Did we have to leave the EU to ‘procure’ the vaccine?
No but that wasn't what you asked. You didn't get the answer you wanted so yet again you just ask another question
Did you read my initial question to Foxy? I will ask you the same question , has Brexit helped solve the problems caused by the pandemic ?
Yes I read your question and anyone with two brain cells would reject the premise. You seem to be asserting that Brexit should somehow have helped with a worldwide pandemic
Is that a yes or a no? Why wouldn’t Brexit help?
Again, your premise is that it should have helped. The onus is on you to provide an explanation as to why you think it should have helped to even phrase your question in that way
Sovereignty
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Freedom
But you've just listed a few things that presumably people who voted for Brexit wanted. Your question asserts that Brexit should have somehow benefited the country in the unlikely event of a pandemic. Why should it have?
Because we now have
Sovereignty
Control
Freedom
We are free from the shackles of the ‘evil’ ‘tyrannical’ ‘EU , surely that should help ?
So are you saying those things made the pandemic worse?
I will simplify this for you as your obviously a little confused, we have a shortage of HGV drivers, Brexit stopped freedom of movement forcing some EU drivers to leave the UK and stoped UK haulage companies from recruiting from the EU. This has made the problem worse, not better . "isnt the real problem the lack of planning since 2016 and the total fuck ups from the government tho this all could of easily been avoided | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic no of corse not why would it we’ve only just left and wam we had covid to deal with covid is way worse than fucking brexit don’t you think The brexit referendum was 4 years agoreally I thought it was 5 lol I was replying to a post from fabtastic thank you God, 5 years ago and still delivered nothing." waste of time even talking to you | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic Can we include the procurement of the vaccine?
Did we have to leave the EU to ‘procure’ the vaccine?
No but that wasn't what you asked. You didn't get the answer you wanted so yet again you just ask another question
Did you read my initial question to Foxy? I will ask you the same question , has Brexit helped solve the problems caused by the pandemic ?
Yes I read your question and anyone with two brain cells would reject the premise. You seem to be asserting that Brexit should somehow have helped with a worldwide pandemic
Is that a yes or a no? Why wouldn’t Brexit help?
Again, your premise is that it should have helped. The onus is on you to provide an explanation as to why you think it should have helped to even phrase your question in that way
Sovereignty
Control
Freedom
But you've just listed a few things that presumably people who voted for Brexit wanted. Your question asserts that Brexit should have somehow benefited the country in the unlikely event of a pandemic. Why should it have?
Because we now have
Sovereignty
Control
Freedom
We are free from the shackles of the ‘evil’ ‘tyrannical’ ‘EU , surely that should help ?
So are you saying those things made the pandemic worse?
I will simplify this for you as your obviously a little confused, we have a shortage of HGV drivers, Brexit stopped freedom of movement forcing some EU drivers to leave the UK and stoped UK haulage companies from recruiting from the EU. This has made the problem worse, not better . "Except Europe has a shortage of drivers, estimated at 400,000 with the worst hit countries being Germany, Poland and the UK. Did Germany and Poland leave the EU and we just haven't been told | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic Can we include the procurement of the vaccine?
Did we have to leave the EU to ‘procure’ the vaccine?
No but that wasn't what you asked. You didn't get the answer you wanted so yet again you just ask another question
Did you read my initial question to Foxy? I will ask you the same question , has Brexit helped solve the problems caused by the pandemic ?
Yes I read your question and anyone with two brain cells would reject the premise. You seem to be asserting that Brexit should somehow have helped with a worldwide pandemic
Is that a yes or a no? Why wouldn’t Brexit help?
Again, your premise is that it should have helped. The onus is on you to provide an explanation as to why you think it should have helped to even phrase your question in that way
Sovereignty
Control
Freedom
But you've just listed a few things that presumably people who voted for Brexit wanted. Your question asserts that Brexit should have somehow benefited the country in the unlikely event of a pandemic. Why should it have?
Because we now have
Sovereignty
Control
Freedom
We are free from the shackles of the ‘evil’ ‘tyrannical’ ‘EU , surely that should help ?
So are you saying those things made the pandemic worse?
I will simplify this for you as your obviously a little confused, we have a shortage of HGV drivers, Brexit stopped freedom of movement forcing some EU drivers to leave the UK and stoped UK haulage companies from recruiting from the EU. This has made the problem worse, not better .
Except Europe has a shortage of drivers, estimated at 400,000 with the worst hit countries being Germany, Poland and the UK. Did Germany and Poland leave the EU and we just haven't been told"The driver shortage has been an issue for many years for most of Europe. Nothing to do with money it’s just a crap job. EU drivers came here which helped to alleviate our problem. We now have Covid and Brexit driving a bulldozer through that partial and temporary fix. Covid natural problem. Brexit self inflicted. | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic Can we include the procurement of the vaccine?
Did we have to leave the EU to ‘procure’ the vaccine?
No but that wasn't what you asked. You didn't get the answer you wanted so yet again you just ask another question
Did you read my initial question to Foxy? I will ask you the same question , has Brexit helped solve the problems caused by the pandemic ?
Yes I read your question and anyone with two brain cells would reject the premise. You seem to be asserting that Brexit should somehow have helped with a worldwide pandemic
Is that a yes or a no? Why wouldn’t Brexit help?
Again, your premise is that it should have helped. The onus is on you to provide an explanation as to why you think it should have helped to even phrase your question in that way
Sovereignty
Control
Freedom
But you've just listed a few things that presumably people who voted for Brexit wanted. Your question asserts that Brexit should have somehow benefited the country in the unlikely event of a pandemic. Why should it have?
Because we now have
Sovereignty
Control
Freedom
We are free from the shackles of the ‘evil’ ‘tyrannical’ ‘EU , surely that should help ?
So are you saying those things made the pandemic worse?
I will simplify this for you as your obviously a little confused, we have a shortage of HGV drivers, Brexit stopped freedom of movement forcing some EU drivers to leave the UK and stoped UK haulage companies from recruiting from the EU. This has made the problem worse, not better .
Except Europe has a shortage of drivers, estimated at 400,000 with the worst hit countries being Germany, Poland and the UK. Did Germany and Poland leave the EU and we just haven't been told
The driver shortage has been an issue for many years for most of Europe. Nothing to do with money it’s just a crap job. EU drivers came here which helped to alleviate our problem. We now have Covid and Brexit driving a bulldozer through that partial and temporary fix. Covid natural problem. Brexit self inflicted. "They weren't forced to leave. They could have all applied to stay | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic Can we include the procurement of the vaccine?
Did we have to leave the EU to ‘procure’ the vaccine?
No but that wasn't what you asked. You didn't get the answer you wanted so yet again you just ask another question
Did you read my initial question to Foxy? I will ask you the same question , has Brexit helped solve the problems caused by the pandemic ?
Yes I read your question and anyone with two brain cells would reject the premise. You seem to be asserting that Brexit should somehow have helped with a worldwide pandemic
Is that a yes or a no? Why wouldn’t Brexit help?
Again, your premise is that it should have helped. The onus is on you to provide an explanation as to why you think it should have helped to even phrase your question in that way
Sovereignty
Control
Freedom
But you've just listed a few things that presumably people who voted for Brexit wanted. Your question asserts that Brexit should have somehow benefited the country in the unlikely event of a pandemic. Why should it have?
Because we now have
Sovereignty
Control
Freedom
We are free from the shackles of the ‘evil’ ‘tyrannical’ ‘EU , surely that should help ?
So are you saying those things made the pandemic worse?
I will simplify this for you as your obviously a little confused, we have a shortage of HGV drivers, Brexit stopped freedom of movement forcing some EU drivers to leave the UK and stoped UK haulage companies from recruiting from the EU. This has made the problem worse, not better .
Except Europe has a shortage of drivers, estimated at 400,000 with the worst hit countries being Germany, Poland and the UK. Did Germany and Poland leave the EU and we just haven't been told
The driver shortage has been an issue for many years for most of Europe. Nothing to do with money it’s just a crap job. EU drivers came here which helped to alleviate our problem. We now have Covid and Brexit driving a bulldozer through that partial and temporary fix. Covid natural problem. Brexit self inflicted.
They weren't forced to leave. They could have all applied to stay"They were happy to stay before Brexit, | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic Can we include the procurement of the vaccine?
Did we have to leave the EU to ‘procure’ the vaccine?
No but that wasn't what you asked. You didn't get the answer you wanted so yet again you just ask another question
Did you read my initial question to Foxy? I will ask you the same question , has Brexit helped solve the problems caused by the pandemic ?
Yes I read your question and anyone with two brain cells would reject the premise. You seem to be asserting that Brexit should somehow have helped with a worldwide pandemic
Is that a yes or a no? Why wouldn’t Brexit help?
Again, your premise is that it should have helped. The onus is on you to provide an explanation as to why you think it should have helped to even phrase your question in that way
Sovereignty
Control
Freedom
But you've just listed a few things that presumably people who voted for Brexit wanted. Your question asserts that Brexit should have somehow benefited the country in the unlikely event of a pandemic. Why should it have?
Because we now have
Sovereignty
Control
Freedom
We are free from the shackles of the ‘evil’ ‘tyrannical’ ‘EU , surely that should help ?
So are you saying those things made the pandemic worse?
I will simplify this for you as your obviously a little confused, we have a shortage of HGV drivers, Brexit stopped freedom of movement forcing some EU drivers to leave the UK and stoped UK haulage companies from recruiting from the EU. This has made the problem worse, not better .
Except Europe has a shortage of drivers, estimated at 400,000 with the worst hit countries being Germany, Poland and the UK. Did Germany and Poland leave the EU and we just haven't been told
The driver shortage has been an issue for many years for most of Europe. Nothing to do with money it’s just a crap job. EU drivers came here which helped to alleviate our problem. We now have Covid and Brexit driving a bulldozer through that partial and temporary fix. Covid natural problem. Brexit self inflicted.
They weren't forced to leave. They could have all applied to stay
They were happy to stay before Brexit, "Were they do you know this for fact? they had the opportunity to apply for settled status the same as everyone else.It says to me they were either here for a quick buck or they decided like a lot of people when covid hit that they wanted to be near their loved ones. Brexit has drove nobody out they all had the same opportunity to stay. | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic Can we include the procurement of the vaccine?
Did we have to leave the EU to ‘procure’ the vaccine?
No but that wasn't what you asked. You didn't get the answer you wanted so yet again you just ask another question
Did you read my initial question to Foxy? I will ask you the same question , has Brexit helped solve the problems caused by the pandemic ?
Yes I read your question and anyone with two brain cells would reject the premise. You seem to be asserting that Brexit should somehow have helped with a worldwide pandemic
Is that a yes or a no? Why wouldn’t Brexit help?
Again, your premise is that it should have helped. The onus is on you to provide an explanation as to why you think it should have helped to even phrase your question in that way
Sovereignty
Control
Freedom
But you've just listed a few things that presumably people who voted for Brexit wanted. Your question asserts that Brexit should have somehow benefited the country in the unlikely event of a pandemic. Why should it have?
Because we now have
Sovereignty
Control
Freedom
We are free from the shackles of the ‘evil’ ‘tyrannical’ ‘EU , surely that should help ?
So are you saying those things made the pandemic worse?
I will simplify this for you as your obviously a little confused, we have a shortage of HGV drivers, Brexit stopped freedom of movement forcing some EU drivers to leave the UK and stoped UK haulage companies from recruiting from the EU. This has made the problem worse, not better .
Except Europe has a shortage of drivers, estimated at 400,000 with the worst hit countries being Germany, Poland and the UK. Did Germany and Poland leave the EU and we just haven't been told
The driver shortage has been an issue for many years for most of Europe. Nothing to do with money it’s just a crap job. EU drivers came here which helped to alleviate our problem. We now have Covid and Brexit driving a bulldozer through that partial and temporary fix. Covid natural problem. Brexit self inflicted.
They weren't forced to leave. They could have all applied to stay
They were happy to stay before Brexit, Were they do you know this for fact? they had the opportunity to apply for settled status the same as everyone else.It says to me they were either here for a quick buck or they decided like a lot of people when covid hit that they wanted to be near their loved ones. Brexit has drove nobody out they all had the same opportunity to stay. "A ‘quick buck’ ? They didn’t want to stay , maybe they got a better offer elsewhere, HGV drivers are in high demand, we have limited our ability to recruit them , | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic Can we include the procurement of the vaccine?
Did we have to leave the EU to ‘procure’ the vaccine?
No but that wasn't what you asked. You didn't get the answer you wanted so yet again you just ask another question
Did you read my initial question to Foxy? I will ask you the same question , has Brexit helped solve the problems caused by the pandemic ?
Yes I read your question and anyone with two brain cells would reject the premise. You seem to be asserting that Brexit should somehow have helped with a worldwide pandemic
Is that a yes or a no? Why wouldn’t Brexit help?
Again, your premise is that it should have helped. The onus is on you to provide an explanation as to why you think it should have helped to even phrase your question in that way
Sovereignty
Control
Freedom
But you've just listed a few things that presumably people who voted for Brexit wanted. Your question asserts that Brexit should have somehow benefited the country in the unlikely event of a pandemic. Why should it have?
Because we now have
Sovereignty
Control
Freedom
We are free from the shackles of the ‘evil’ ‘tyrannical’ ‘EU , surely that should help ?
So are you saying those things made the pandemic worse?
I will simplify this for you as your obviously a little confused, we have a shortage of HGV drivers, Brexit stopped freedom of movement forcing some EU drivers to leave the UK and stoped UK haulage companies from recruiting from the EU. This has made the problem worse, not better .
Except Europe has a shortage of drivers, estimated at 400,000 with the worst hit countries being Germany, Poland and the UK. Did Germany and Poland leave the EU and we just haven't been told
The driver shortage has been an issue for many years for most of Europe. Nothing to do with money it’s just a crap job. EU drivers came here which helped to alleviate our problem. We now have Covid and Brexit driving a bulldozer through that partial and temporary fix. Covid natural problem. Brexit self inflicted.
They weren't forced to leave. They could have all applied to stay
They were happy to stay before Brexit, Were they do you know this for fact? they had the opportunity to apply for settled status the same as everyone else.It says to me they were either here for a quick buck or they decided like a lot of people when covid hit that they wanted to be near their loved ones. Brexit has drove nobody out they all had the same opportunity to stay.
A ‘quick buck’ ? They didn’t want to stay , maybe they got a better offer elsewhere, HGV drivers are in high demand, we have limited our ability to recruit them , "yes all your posts seem to be maybe,s not actual facts. | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic Can we include the procurement of the vaccine?
Did we have to leave the EU to ‘procure’ the vaccine?
No but that wasn't what you asked. You didn't get the answer you wanted so yet again you just ask another question
Did you read my initial question to Foxy? I will ask you the same question , has Brexit helped solve the problems caused by the pandemic ?
Yes I read your question and anyone with two brain cells would reject the premise. You seem to be asserting that Brexit should somehow have helped with a worldwide pandemic
Is that a yes or a no? Why wouldn’t Brexit help?
Again, your premise is that it should have helped. The onus is on you to provide an explanation as to why you think it should have helped to even phrase your question in that way
Sovereignty
Control
Freedom
But you've just listed a few things that presumably people who voted for Brexit wanted. Your question asserts that Brexit should have somehow benefited the country in the unlikely event of a pandemic. Why should it have?
Because we now have
Sovereignty
Control
Freedom
We are free from the shackles of the ‘evil’ ‘tyrannical’ ‘EU , surely that should help ?
So are you saying those things made the pandemic worse?
I will simplify this for you as your obviously a little confused, we have a shortage of HGV drivers, Brexit stopped freedom of movement forcing some EU drivers to leave the UK and stoped UK haulage companies from recruiting from the EU. This has made the problem worse, not better .
Except Europe has a shortage of drivers, estimated at 400,000 with the worst hit countries being Germany, Poland and the UK. Did Germany and Poland leave the EU and we just haven't been told
The driver shortage has been an issue for many years for most of Europe. Nothing to do with money it’s just a crap job. EU drivers came here which helped to alleviate our problem. We now have Covid and Brexit driving a bulldozer through that partial and temporary fix. Covid natural problem. Brexit self inflicted.
They weren't forced to leave. They could have all applied to stay
They were happy to stay before Brexit, Were they do you know this for fact? they had the opportunity to apply for settled status the same as everyone else.It says to me they were either here for a quick buck or they decided like a lot of people when covid hit that they wanted to be near their loved ones. Brexit has drove nobody out they all had the same opportunity to stay.
A ‘quick buck’ ? They didn’t want to stay , maybe they got a better offer elsewhere, HGV drivers are in high demand, we have limited our ability to recruit them , yes all your posts seem to be maybe,s not actual facts. "Here is a fact, they left after Brexit | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic Can we include the procurement of the vaccine?
Did we have to leave the EU to ‘procure’ the vaccine?
No but that wasn't what you asked. You didn't get the answer you wanted so yet again you just ask another question
Did you read my initial question to Foxy? I will ask you the same question , has Brexit helped solve the problems caused by the pandemic ?
Yes I read your question and anyone with two brain cells would reject the premise. You seem to be asserting that Brexit should somehow have helped with a worldwide pandemic
Is that a yes or a no? Why wouldn’t Brexit help?
Again, your premise is that it should have helped. The onus is on you to provide an explanation as to why you think it should have helped to even phrase your question in that way
Sovereignty
Control
Freedom
But you've just listed a few things that presumably people who voted for Brexit wanted. Your question asserts that Brexit should have somehow benefited the country in the unlikely event of a pandemic. Why should it have?
Because we now have
Sovereignty
Control
Freedom
We are free from the shackles of the ‘evil’ ‘tyrannical’ ‘EU , surely that should help ?
So are you saying those things made the pandemic worse?
I will simplify this for you as your obviously a little confused, we have a shortage of HGV drivers, Brexit stopped freedom of movement forcing some EU drivers to leave the UK and stoped UK haulage companies from recruiting from the EU. This has made the problem worse, not better .
Except Europe has a shortage of drivers, estimated at 400,000 with the worst hit countries being Germany, Poland and the UK. Did Germany and Poland leave the EU and we just haven't been told
The driver shortage has been an issue for many years for most of Europe. Nothing to do with money it’s just a crap job. EU drivers came here which helped to alleviate our problem. We now have Covid and Brexit driving a bulldozer through that partial and temporary fix. Covid natural problem. Brexit self inflicted.
They weren't forced to leave. They could have all applied to stay
They were happy to stay before Brexit, Were they do you know this for fact? they had the opportunity to apply for settled status the same as everyone else.It says to me they were either here for a quick buck or they decided like a lot of people when covid hit that they wanted to be near their loved ones. Brexit has drove nobody out they all had the same opportunity to stay.
A ‘quick buck’ ? They didn’t want to stay , maybe they got a better offer elsewhere, HGV drivers are in high demand, we have limited our ability to recruit them , yes all your posts seem to be maybe,s not actual facts.
Here is a fact, they left after Brexit "yes but another fact is they left before xmas it proves nothing unless you have the data to back it up. | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic Can we include the procurement of the vaccine?
Did we have to leave the EU to ‘procure’ the vaccine?
No but that wasn't what you asked. You didn't get the answer you wanted so yet again you just ask another question
Did you read my initial question to Foxy? I will ask you the same question , has Brexit helped solve the problems caused by the pandemic ?
Yes I read your question and anyone with two brain cells would reject the premise. You seem to be asserting that Brexit should somehow have helped with a worldwide pandemic
Is that a yes or a no? Why wouldn’t Brexit help?
Again, your premise is that it should have helped. The onus is on you to provide an explanation as to why you think it should have helped to even phrase your question in that way
Sovereignty
Control
Freedom
But you've just listed a few things that presumably people who voted for Brexit wanted. Your question asserts that Brexit should have somehow benefited the country in the unlikely event of a pandemic. Why should it have?
Because we now have
Sovereignty
Control
Freedom
We are free from the shackles of the ‘evil’ ‘tyrannical’ ‘EU , surely that should help ?
So are you saying those things made the pandemic worse?
I will simplify this for you as your obviously a little confused, we have a shortage of HGV drivers, Brexit stopped freedom of movement forcing some EU drivers to leave the UK and stoped UK haulage companies from recruiting from the EU. This has made the problem worse, not better .
Except Europe has a shortage of drivers, estimated at 400,000 with the worst hit countries being Germany, Poland and the UK. Did Germany and Poland leave the EU and we just haven't been told
The driver shortage has been an issue for many years for most of Europe. Nothing to do with money it’s just a crap job. EU drivers came here which helped to alleviate our problem. We now have Covid and Brexit driving a bulldozer through that partial and temporary fix. Covid natural problem. Brexit self inflicted.
They weren't forced to leave. They could have all applied to stay
They were happy to stay before Brexit, Were they do you know this for fact? they had the opportunity to apply for settled status the same as everyone else.It says to me they were either here for a quick buck or they decided like a lot of people when covid hit that they wanted to be near their loved ones. Brexit has drove nobody out they all had the same opportunity to stay.
A ‘quick buck’ ? They didn’t want to stay , maybe they got a better offer elsewhere, HGV drivers are in high demand, we have limited our ability to recruit them , yes all your posts seem to be maybe,s not actual facts.
Here is a fact, they left after Brexit yes but another fact is they left before xmas it proves nothing unless you have the data to back it up. "What data do you require? Here is another fact, the road haulage association blame the driver shortage on COVID and Brexit | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic Can we include the procurement of the vaccine?
Did we have to leave the EU to ‘procure’ the vaccine?
No but that wasn't what you asked. You didn't get the answer you wanted so yet again you just ask another question
Did you read my initial question to Foxy? I will ask you the same question , has Brexit helped solve the problems caused by the pandemic ?
Yes I read your question and anyone with two brain cells would reject the premise. You seem to be asserting that Brexit should somehow have helped with a worldwide pandemic
Is that a yes or a no? Why wouldn’t Brexit help?
Again, your premise is that it should have helped. The onus is on you to provide an explanation as to why you think it should have helped to even phrase your question in that way
Sovereignty
Control
Freedom
But you've just listed a few things that presumably people who voted for Brexit wanted. Your question asserts that Brexit should have somehow benefited the country in the unlikely event of a pandemic. Why should it have?
Because we now have
Sovereignty
Control
Freedom
We are free from the shackles of the ‘evil’ ‘tyrannical’ ‘EU , surely that should help ?
So are you saying those things made the pandemic worse?
I will simplify this for you as your obviously a little confused, we have a shortage of HGV drivers, Brexit stopped freedom of movement forcing some EU drivers to leave the UK and stoped UK haulage companies from recruiting from the EU. This has made the problem worse, not better .
Except Europe has a shortage of drivers, estimated at 400,000 with the worst hit countries being Germany, Poland and the UK. Did Germany and Poland leave the EU and we just haven't been told
The driver shortage has been an issue for many years for most of Europe. Nothing to do with money it’s just a crap job. EU drivers came here which helped to alleviate our problem. We now have Covid and Brexit driving a bulldozer through that partial and temporary fix. Covid natural problem. Brexit self inflicted.
They weren't forced to leave. They could have all applied to stay
They were happy to stay before Brexit, Were they do you know this for fact? they had the opportunity to apply for settled status the same as everyone else.It says to me they were either here for a quick buck or they decided like a lot of people when covid hit that they wanted to be near their loved ones. Brexit has drove nobody out they all had the same opportunity to stay.
A ‘quick buck’ ? They didn’t want to stay , maybe they got a better offer elsewhere, HGV drivers are in high demand, we have limited our ability to recruit them , yes all your posts seem to be maybe,s not actual facts.
Here is a fact, they left after Brexit yes but another fact is they left before xmas it proves nothing unless you have the data to back it up.
What data do you require? Here is another fact, the road haulage association blame the driver shortage on COVID and Brexit "where do you want me to start how about how many left because of covid and how many left because of brexit, how many were tanker drivers?  | |||
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Is this the 'I believed the BBC again' emoji?
It's amusing that you think I'm a fan of the BBC. I'm not.
The 27 visas story has been widely reported in various places."The 27 visa story was originally reported by that liberal pinko-commie paper known as…. Shuffling papers….. the times!!!! | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic Can we include the procurement of the vaccine?
Did we have to leave the EU to ‘procure’ the vaccine?
No but that wasn't what you asked. You didn't get the answer you wanted so yet again you just ask another question
Did you read my initial question to Foxy? I will ask you the same question , has Brexit helped solve the problems caused by the pandemic ?
Yes I read your question and anyone with two brain cells would reject the premise. You seem to be asserting that Brexit should somehow have helped with a worldwide pandemic
Is that a yes or a no? Why wouldn’t Brexit help?
Again, your premise is that it should have helped. The onus is on you to provide an explanation as to why you think it should have helped to even phrase your question in that way
Sovereignty
Control
Freedom
But you've just listed a few things that presumably people who voted for Brexit wanted. Your question asserts that Brexit should have somehow benefited the country in the unlikely event of a pandemic. Why should it have?
Because we now have
Sovereignty
Control
Freedom
We are free from the shackles of the ‘evil’ ‘tyrannical’ ‘EU , surely that should help ?
So are you saying those things made the pandemic worse?
I will simplify this for you as your obviously a little confused, we have a shortage of HGV drivers, Brexit stopped freedom of movement forcing some EU drivers to leave the UK and stoped UK haulage companies from recruiting from the EU. This has made the problem worse, not better .
Except Europe has a shortage of drivers, estimated at 400,000 with the worst hit countries being Germany, Poland and the UK. Did Germany and Poland leave the EU and we just haven't been told
The driver shortage has been an issue for many years for most of Europe. Nothing to do with money it’s just a crap job. EU drivers came here which helped to alleviate our problem. We now have Covid and Brexit driving a bulldozer through that partial and temporary fix. Covid natural problem. Brexit self inflicted.
They weren't forced to leave. They could have all applied to stay
They were happy to stay before Brexit, "Where do you get this nonsense from! I work with a lot of EU nationals and still do, none of them have left my company because of Brexit | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic Can we include the procurement of the vaccine?
Did we have to leave the EU to ‘procure’ the vaccine?
No but that wasn't what you asked. You didn't get the answer you wanted so yet again you just ask another question
Did you read my initial question to Foxy? I will ask you the same question , has Brexit helped solve the problems caused by the pandemic ?
Yes I read your question and anyone with two brain cells would reject the premise. You seem to be asserting that Brexit should somehow have helped with a worldwide pandemic
Is that a yes or a no? Why wouldn’t Brexit help?
Again, your premise is that it should have helped. The onus is on you to provide an explanation as to why you think it should have helped to even phrase your question in that way
Sovereignty
Control
Freedom
But you've just listed a few things that presumably people who voted for Brexit wanted. Your question asserts that Brexit should have somehow benefited the country in the unlikely event of a pandemic. Why should it have?
Because we now have
Sovereignty
Control
Freedom
We are free from the shackles of the ‘evil’ ‘tyrannical’ ‘EU , surely that should help ?
So are you saying those things made the pandemic worse?
I will simplify this for you as your obviously a little confused, we have a shortage of HGV drivers, Brexit stopped freedom of movement forcing some EU drivers to leave the UK and stoped UK haulage companies from recruiting from the EU. This has made the problem worse, not better .
Except Europe has a shortage of drivers, estimated at 400,000 with the worst hit countries being Germany, Poland and the UK. Did Germany and Poland leave the EU and we just haven't been told
The driver shortage has been an issue for many years for most of Europe. Nothing to do with money it’s just a crap job. EU drivers came here which helped to alleviate our problem. We now have Covid and Brexit driving a bulldozer through that partial and temporary fix. Covid natural problem. Brexit self inflicted.
They weren't forced to leave. They could have all applied to stay
They were happy to stay before Brexit,
Where do you get this nonsense from!
I work with a lot of EU nationals and still do, none of them have left my company because of Brexit "This is exactly why i ask for facts i have people down my street who are from the eu and are happy to still live here the rubbish i see posted bears no resemblance to what i am seeing in real life. | |||
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"Due to whole fuel crisis that isn't a fuel crisis (honest) and doesn't exist (double honest) and has nothing to do with Brexit (triple honest) the government reversed a bit of Brexit to issue 3 month visas to drivers from the EU. We issued 300 of these visas. 27 drivers applied. 1 driver per member state. How poetic. Downing Street is said to be very pissed off. " There's a shortage in Europe, So.. 27 who are too crap at their jobs to get one at home, so we get the rejected coming here? | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic Can we include the procurement of the vaccine?
Did we have to leave the EU to ‘procure’ the vaccine?
No but that wasn't what you asked. You didn't get the answer you wanted so yet again you just ask another question
Did you read my initial question to Foxy? I will ask you the same question , has Brexit helped solve the problems caused by the pandemic ?
Yes I read your question and anyone with two brain cells would reject the premise. You seem to be asserting that Brexit should somehow have helped with a worldwide pandemic
Is that a yes or a no? Why wouldn’t Brexit help?
Again, your premise is that it should have helped. The onus is on you to provide an explanation as to why you think it should have helped to even phrase your question in that way
Sovereignty
Control
Freedom
But you've just listed a few things that presumably people who voted for Brexit wanted. Your question asserts that Brexit should have somehow benefited the country in the unlikely event of a pandemic. Why should it have?
Because we now have
Sovereignty
Control
Freedom
We are free from the shackles of the ‘evil’ ‘tyrannical’ ‘EU , surely that should help ?
So are you saying those things made the pandemic worse?
I will simplify this for you as your obviously a little confused, we have a shortage of HGV drivers, Brexit stopped freedom of movement forcing some EU drivers to leave the UK and stoped UK haulage companies from recruiting from the EU. This has made the problem worse, not better .
Except Europe has a shortage of drivers, estimated at 400,000 with the worst hit countries being Germany, Poland and the UK. Did Germany and Poland leave the EU and we just haven't been told
The driver shortage has been an issue for many years for most of Europe. Nothing to do with money it’s just a crap job. EU drivers came here which helped to alleviate our problem. We now have Covid and Brexit driving a bulldozer through that partial and temporary fix. Covid natural problem. Brexit self inflicted.
They weren't forced to leave. They could have all applied to stay
They were happy to stay before Brexit,
Where do you get this nonsense from!
I work with a lot of EU nationals and still do, none of them have left my company because of Brexit This is exactly why i ask for facts i have people down my street who are from the eu and are happy to still live here the rubbish i see posted bears no resemblance to what i am seeing in real life. "People aren't interested in facts. They just want another reason to get worked up about Brexit. I wish they would just get on with their lives quite frankly | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic Can we include the procurement of the vaccine?
Did we have to leave the EU to ‘procure’ the vaccine?
No but that wasn't what you asked. You didn't get the answer you wanted so yet again you just ask another question
Did you read my initial question to Foxy? I will ask you the same question , has Brexit helped solve the problems caused by the pandemic ?
Yes I read your question and anyone with two brain cells would reject the premise. You seem to be asserting that Brexit should somehow have helped with a worldwide pandemic
Is that a yes or a no? Why wouldn’t Brexit help?
Again, your premise is that it should have helped. The onus is on you to provide an explanation as to why you think it should have helped to even phrase your question in that way
Sovereignty
Control
Freedom
But you've just listed a few things that presumably people who voted for Brexit wanted. Your question asserts that Brexit should have somehow benefited the country in the unlikely event of a pandemic. Why should it have?
Because we now have
Sovereignty
Control
Freedom
We are free from the shackles of the ‘evil’ ‘tyrannical’ ‘EU , surely that should help ?
So are you saying those things made the pandemic worse?
I will simplify this for you as your obviously a little confused, we have a shortage of HGV drivers, Brexit stopped freedom of movement forcing some EU drivers to leave the UK and stoped UK haulage companies from recruiting from the EU. This has made the problem worse, not better .
Except Europe has a shortage of drivers, estimated at 400,000 with the worst hit countries being Germany, Poland and the UK. Did Germany and Poland leave the EU and we just haven't been told
The driver shortage has been an issue for many years for most of Europe. Nothing to do with money it’s just a crap job. EU drivers came here which helped to alleviate our problem. We now have Covid and Brexit driving a bulldozer through that partial and temporary fix. Covid natural problem. Brexit self inflicted.
They weren't forced to leave. They could have all applied to stay
They were happy to stay before Brexit,
Where do you get this nonsense from!
I work with a lot of EU nationals and still do, none of them have left my company because of Brexit This is exactly why i ask for facts i have people down my street who are from the eu and are happy to still live here the rubbish i see posted bears no resemblance to what i am seeing in real life.
People aren't interested in facts. They just want another reason to get worked up about Brexit. I wish they would just get on with their lives quite frankly "The Remainers are making themselves I'll with all their hate. | |||
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"Have noticed the whole forum does seem a bit biased to just focusing on issues here, there has been no mention of Spain and France approaching the EU commission over there soaring gas and electric prices, the fact that there have been empty shelves in supermarkets in Belgium, shortage of drivers in china or the like, anybody would think only the uk has issues at the min reading these forums. Didn’t you know every single problem in the U.K. is down to brexit some on here don’t even know we’ve been in the biggest pandemic for a hundred years and the whole world as suffered financially Simple question, has Brexit helped the problems caused by the pandemic Can we include the procurement of the vaccine?
Did we have to leave the EU to ‘procure’ the vaccine?
No but that wasn't what you asked. You didn't get the answer you wanted so yet again you just ask another question
Did you read my initial question to Foxy? I will ask you the same question , has Brexit helped solve the problems caused by the pandemic ?
Yes I read your question and anyone with two brain cells would reject the premise. You seem to be asserting that Brexit should somehow have helped with a worldwide pandemic
Is that a yes or a no? Why wouldn’t Brexit help?
Again, your premise is that it should have helped. The onus is on you to provide an explanation as to why you think it should have helped to even phrase your question in that way
Sovereignty
Control
Freedom
But you've just listed a few things that presumably people who voted for Brexit wanted. Your question asserts that Brexit should have somehow benefited the country in the unlikely event of a pandemic. Why should it have?
Because we now have
Sovereignty
Control
Freedom
We are free from the shackles of the ‘evil’ ‘tyrannical’ ‘EU , surely that should help ?
So are you saying those things made the pandemic worse?
I will simplify this for you as your obviously a little confused, we have a shortage of HGV drivers, Brexit stopped freedom of movement forcing some EU drivers to leave the UK and stoped UK haulage companies from recruiting from the EU. This has made the problem worse, not better .
Except Europe has a shortage of drivers, estimated at 400,000 with the worst hit countries being Germany, Poland and the UK. Did Germany and Poland leave the EU and we just haven't been told
The driver shortage has been an issue for many years for most of Europe. Nothing to do with money it’s just a crap job. EU drivers came here which helped to alleviate our problem. We now have Covid and Brexit driving a bulldozer through that partial and temporary fix. Covid natural problem. Brexit self inflicted.
They weren't forced to leave. They could have all applied to stay
They were happy to stay before Brexit,
Where do you get this nonsense from!
I work with a lot of EU nationals and still do, none of them have left my company because of Brexit This is exactly why i ask for facts i have people down my street who are from the eu and are happy to still live here the rubbish i see posted bears no resemblance to what i am seeing in real life.
People aren't interested in facts. They just want another reason to get worked up about Brexit. I wish they would just get on with their lives quite frankly
The Remainers are making themselves I'll with all their hate."Whilst the Brexiteers try to conjure up some meaningful benefits to whip the remainers with Popcorn ready lol | |||
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Is this the 'I believed the BBC again' emoji?
It's amusing that you think I'm a fan of the BBC. I'm not.
The 27 visas story has been widely reported in various places.
The 27 visa story was originally reported by that liberal pinko-commie paper known as…. Shuffling papers….. the times!!!! "lol | |||
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