FabSwingers.com forum: Brexit was a factor eh?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Replying in a rambling fashion to a question about fuel shortages here being worse than other countries, Shapps said "Brexit, I hear mentioned a lot. And it no doubt will have been a factor..." before he hurried on.

Is this an example of a Tory MP accidentally telling the truth?

Are the Tories laying the groundwork for shifting the message?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I csn almost see boris slapping his hand over shapp's mouth from behind as he's dragged away.

Yes he did tell the truth but was an accident

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I csn almost see boris slapping his hand over shapp's mouth from behind as he's dragged away.

Yes he did tell the truth but was an accident

Tories telling the truth. We can't have that. Could set a dangerous precedent.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

We have a general shortage of drivers (among other jobs like hospitality/care staff etc) partly due to Brexit and made worse by pandemic. But that didn't cause the current mess.

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over a year ago

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

We have a general shortage of drivers (among other jobs like hospitality/care staff etc) partly due to Brexit and made worse by pandemic. But that didn't cause the current mess."

Brexit was a factor then

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By *itzi999Woman
over a year ago

Slough

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad

We have a general shortage of drivers (among other jobs like hospitality/care staff etc) partly due to Brexit and made worse by pandemic. But that didn't cause the current mess."

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

We have a general shortage of drivers (among other jobs like hospitality/care staff etc) partly due to Brexit and made worse by pandemic. But that didn't cause the current mess."
Exactly, but some are some are not capable of thinking rationally and brexit is their go to response.

As someone said anyone who thinks Brexit is the cause is a simpleton.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

We have a general shortage of drivers (among other jobs like hospitality/care staff etc) partly due to Brexit and made worse by pandemic. But that didn't cause the current mess.Exactly, but some are some are not capable of thinking rationally and brexit is their go to response.

As someone said anyone who thinks Brexit is the cause is a simpleton.

Brexit is a factor?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

As someone said anyone who thinks Brexit is the cause is a simpleton.

Brexit is a factor? "
Can you explain to me why this crisis only started last week then how comes its not been going on for months?

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over a year ago

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

As someone said anyone who thinks Brexit is the cause is a simpleton.

Brexit is a factor? Can you explain to me why this crisis only started last week then how comes its not been going on for months? "

No idea, can you explain why the driver shortage is a problem this year but wasn’t last year ?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

As someone said anyone who thinks Brexit is the cause is a simpleton.

Brexit is a factor? Can you explain to me why this crisis only started last week then how comes its not been going on for months?

No idea, can you explain why the driver shortage is a problem this year but wasn’t last year ? "
so you have no facts to back up your claim then and really have no idea?

unbelievable.It seems martin daubney was right.

Yes its very simple covid, last year 30,000 hgv tests were suspended hardly any cars on the road due to lockdown.

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over a year ago

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

As someone said anyone who thinks Brexit is the cause is a simpleton.

Brexit is a factor? Can you explain to me why this crisis only started last week then how comes its not been going on for months?

No idea, can you explain why the driver shortage is a problem this year but wasn’t last year ? so you have no facts to back up your claim then and really have no idea?

unbelievable.It seems martin daubney was right.

Yes its very simple covid, last year 30,000 hgv tests were suspended hardly any cars on the road due to lockdown."

Who are the road haulage association blaming for the driver shortage? So your saying Brexit had no affect ? Nothing ? Zip?

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By *uietbloke67Man
over a year ago

outside your bedroom window ;-)

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

As someone said anyone who thinks Brexit is the cause is a simpleton.

Brexit is a factor? Can you explain to me why this crisis only started last week then how comes its not been going on for months?

No idea, can you explain why the driver shortage is a problem this year but wasn’t last year ? "

Do you think all the Euro drivers went home because suddenly thier economies surged in a Covid world, just as one Tory tried to argue....or do you think they went home because the nationalist shite they had to put up with fooked them off attributed no less to brexit

Mmmm one to ponder.....

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

As someone said anyone who thinks Brexit is the cause is a simpleton.

Brexit is a factor? Can you explain to me why this crisis only started last week then how comes its not been going on for months?

No idea, can you explain why the driver shortage is a problem this year but wasn’t last year ? so you have no facts to back up your claim then and really have no idea?

unbelievable.It seems martin daubney was right.

Yes its very simple covid, last year 30,000 hgv tests were suspended hardly any cars on the road due to lockdown.

Who are the road haulage association blaming for the driver shortage? So your saying Brexit had no affect ? Nothing ? Zip?

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We are talking about the fuel crisis here why when there was the same ammount of drivers a month ago didnt we have a fuel crisis? its a very simple question and what has it to do with brexit?

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over a year ago

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

As someone said anyone who thinks Brexit is the cause is a simpleton.

Brexit is a factor? Can you explain to me why this crisis only started last week then how comes its not been going on for months?

No idea, can you explain why the driver shortage is a problem this year but wasn’t last year ? so you have no facts to back up your claim then and really have no idea?

unbelievable.It seems martin daubney was right.

Yes its very simple covid, last year 30,000 hgv tests were suspended hardly any cars on the road due to lockdown.

Who are the road haulage association blaming for the driver shortage? So your saying Brexit had no affect ? Nothing ? Zip?

We are talking about the fuel crisis here why when there was the same ammount of drivers a month ago didnt we have a fuel crisis? its a very simple question and what has it to do with brexit?"

We don’t have a ‘fuel shortage’ we have a shortage of drivers to deliver the fuel

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

As someone said anyone who thinks Brexit is the cause is a simpleton.

Brexit is a factor? Can you explain to me why this crisis only started last week then how comes its not been going on for months?

No idea, can you explain why the driver shortage is a problem this year but wasn’t last year ? so you have no facts to back up your claim then and really have no idea?

unbelievable.It seems martin daubney was right.

Yes its very simple covid, last year 30,000 hgv tests were suspended hardly any cars on the road due to lockdown.

Who are the road haulage association blaming for the driver shortage? So your saying Brexit had no affect ? Nothing ? Zip?

We are talking about the fuel crisis here why when there was the same ammount of drivers a month ago didnt we have a fuel crisis? its a very simple question and what has it to do with brexit?

We don’t have a ‘fuel shortage’ we have a shortage of drivers to deliver the fuel

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very good and a nice try to deflect from the question but i never said shortage i said crisis and you know very well what we are talking about. You dont have an answer so we will leave it at that no genuine argument to your theories as usual.

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over a year ago

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

As someone said anyone who thinks Brexit is the cause is a simpleton.

Brexit is a factor? Can you explain to me why this crisis only started last week then how comes its not been going on for months?

No idea, can you explain why the driver shortage is a problem this year but wasn’t last year ? so you have no facts to back up your claim then and really have no idea?

unbelievable.It seems martin daubney was right.

Yes its very simple covid, last year 30,000 hgv tests were suspended hardly any cars on the road due to lockdown.

Who are the road haulage association blaming for the driver shortage? So your saying Brexit had no affect ? Nothing ? Zip?

We are talking about the fuel crisis here why when there was the same ammount of drivers a month ago didnt we have a fuel crisis? its a very simple question and what has it to do with brexit?

We don’t have a ‘fuel shortage’ we have a shortage of drivers to deliver the fuel

very good and a nice try to deflect from the question but i never said shortage i said crisis and you know very well what we are talking about. You dont have an answer so we will leave it at that no genuine argument to your theories as usual."

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over a year ago

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

As someone said anyone who thinks Brexit is the cause is a simpleton.

Brexit is a factor? Can you explain to me why this crisis only started last week then how comes its not been going on for months?

No idea, can you explain why the driver shortage is a problem this year but wasn’t last year ? so you have no facts to back up your claim then and really have no idea?

unbelievable.It seems martin daubney was right.

Yes its very simple covid, last year 30,000 hgv tests were suspended hardly any cars on the road due to lockdown.

Who are the road haulage association blaming for the driver shortage? So your saying Brexit had no affect ? Nothing ? Zip?

We are talking about the fuel crisis here why when there was the same ammount of drivers a month ago didnt we have a fuel crisis? its a very simple question and what has it to do with brexit?

We don’t have a ‘fuel shortage’ we have a shortage of drivers to deliver the fuel

We have a fuel ‘crisis’ that was started due to a shortage of drivers, simple really

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

As someone said anyone who thinks Brexit is the cause is a simpleton.

Brexit is a factor? Can you explain to me why this crisis only started last week then how comes its not been going on for months?

No idea, can you explain why the driver shortage is a problem this year but wasn’t last year ? so you have no facts to back up your claim then and really have no idea?

unbelievable.It seems martin daubney was right.

Yes its very simple covid, last year 30,000 hgv tests were suspended hardly any cars on the road due to lockdown.

Who are the road haulage association blaming for the driver shortage? So your saying Brexit had no affect ? Nothing ? Zip?

We are talking about the fuel crisis here why when there was the same ammount of drivers a month ago didnt we have a fuel crisis? its a very simple question and what has it to do with brexit?

We don’t have a ‘fuel shortage’ we have a shortage of drivers to deliver the fuel

We have a fuel ‘crisis’ that was started due to a shortage of drivers, simple really "
so when we had the same amount of drivers the month before why didnt we have one then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

As someone said anyone who thinks Brexit is the cause is a simpleton.

Brexit is a factor? Can you explain to me why this crisis only started last week then how comes its not been going on for months?

No idea, can you explain why the driver shortage is a problem this year but wasn’t last year ? so you have no facts to back up your claim then and really have no idea?

unbelievable.It seems martin daubney was right.

Yes its very simple covid, last year 30,000 hgv tests were suspended hardly any cars on the road due to lockdown.

Who are the road haulage association blaming for the driver shortage? So your saying Brexit had no affect ? Nothing ? Zip?

We are talking about the fuel crisis here why when there was the same ammount of drivers a month ago didnt we have a fuel crisis? its a very simple question and what has it to do with brexit?

We don’t have a ‘fuel shortage’ we have a shortage of drivers to deliver the fuel

We have a fuel ‘crisis’ that was started due to a shortage of drivers, simple really so when we had the same amount of drivers the month before why didnt we have one then?"

Speak to BP, they closed and limited the amount of fuel in some of the stations, driver shortage started the fuel crisis, simple facts

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

As someone said anyone who thinks Brexit is the cause is a simpleton.

Brexit is a factor? Can you explain to me why this crisis only started last week then how comes its not been going on for months?

No idea, can you explain why the driver shortage is a problem this year but wasn’t last year ? so you have no facts to back up your claim then and really have no idea?

unbelievable.It seems martin daubney was right.

Yes its very simple covid, last year 30,000 hgv tests were suspended hardly any cars on the road due to lockdown.

Who are the road haulage association blaming for the driver shortage? So your saying Brexit had no affect ? Nothing ? Zip?

We are talking about the fuel crisis here why when there was the same ammount of drivers a month ago didnt we have a fuel crisis? its a very simple question and what has it to do with brexit?

We don’t have a ‘fuel shortage’ we have a shortage of drivers to deliver the fuel

We have a fuel ‘crisis’ that was started due to a shortage of drivers, simple really so when we had the same amount of drivers the month before why didnt we have one then?

Speak to BP, they closed and limited the amount of fuel in some of the stations, driver shortage started the fuel crisis, simple facts "
so nothing to do with a leaked document to the press causing people to panic buy then glad we cleared that up.

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over a year ago

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

As someone said anyone who thinks Brexit is the cause is a simpleton.

Brexit is a factor? Can you explain to me why this crisis only started last week then how comes its not been going on for months?

No idea, can you explain why the driver shortage is a problem this year but wasn’t last year ? so you have no facts to back up your claim then and really have no idea?

unbelievable.It seems martin daubney was right.

Yes its very simple covid, last year 30,000 hgv tests were suspended hardly any cars on the road due to lockdown.

Who are the road haulage association blaming for the driver shortage? So your saying Brexit had no affect ? Nothing ? Zip?

We are talking about the fuel crisis here why when there was the same ammount of drivers a month ago didnt we have a fuel crisis? its a very simple question and what has it to do with brexit?

We don’t have a ‘fuel shortage’ we have a shortage of drivers to deliver the fuel

We have a fuel ‘crisis’ that was started due to a shortage of drivers, simple really so when we had the same amount of drivers the month before why didnt we have one then?

Speak to BP, they closed and limited the amount of fuel in some of the stations, driver shortage started the fuel crisis, simple facts so nothing to do with a leaked document to the press causing people to panic buy then glad we cleared that up.

What did the leaked document say? And did BP

limit the amount of fuel in their stations? Yes or no? Did panic buying make it worse, of course, did a driver shortage cause it, yes. No driver shortage, no panic buying, no ‘crisis ‘

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

As someone said anyone who thinks Brexit is the cause is a simpleton.

Brexit is a factor? Can you explain to me why this crisis only started last week then how comes its not been going on for months?

No idea, can you explain why the driver shortage is a problem this year but wasn’t last year ? so you have no facts to back up your claim then and really have no idea?

unbelievable.It seems martin daubney was right.

Yes its very simple covid, last year 30,000 hgv tests were suspended hardly any cars on the road due to lockdown.

Who are the road haulage association blaming for the driver shortage? So your saying Brexit had no affect ? Nothing ? Zip?

We are talking about the fuel crisis here why when there was the same ammount of drivers a month ago didnt we have a fuel crisis? its a very simple question and what has it to do with brexit?

We don’t have a ‘fuel shortage’ we have a shortage of drivers to deliver the fuel

We have a fuel ‘crisis’ that was started due to a shortage of drivers, simple really so when we had the same amount of drivers the month before why didnt we have one then?

What did the leaked document say? And did BP

limit the amount of fuel in their stations? Yes or no? Did panic buying make it worse, of course, did a driver shortage cause it, yes. No driver shortage, no panic buying, no ‘crisis ‘ "
Was there any problem the month before or even the week before the leak? Im glad you now see that its panic buying that has caused the crisis and not brexit i knew we would get there in the end.

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over a year ago

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

As someone said anyone who thinks Brexit is the cause is a simpleton.

Brexit is a factor? Can you explain to me why this crisis only started last week then how comes its not been going on for months?

No idea, can you explain why the driver shortage is a problem this year but wasn’t last year ? so you have no facts to back up your claim then and really have no idea?

unbelievable.It seems martin daubney was right.

Yes its very simple covid, last year 30,000 hgv tests were suspended hardly any cars on the road due to lockdown.

Who are the road haulage association blaming for the driver shortage? So your saying Brexit had no affect ? Nothing ? Zip?

We are talking about the fuel crisis here why when there was the same ammount of drivers a month ago didnt we have a fuel crisis? its a very simple question and what has it to do with brexit?

We don’t have a ‘fuel shortage’ we have a shortage of drivers to deliver the fuel

We have a fuel ‘crisis’ that was started due to a shortage of drivers, simple really so when we had the same amount of drivers the month before why didnt we have one then?

What did the leaked document say? And did BP

limit the amount of fuel in their stations? Yes or no? Did panic buying make it worse, of course, did a driver shortage cause it, yes. No driver shortage, no panic buying, no ‘crisis ‘ Was there any problem the month before or even the week before the leak? Im glad you now see that its panic buying that has caused the crisis and not brexit i knew we would get there in the end."

Panic buying didn’t cause the crisis, it made it worse. A driver shortage ‘caused ‘ the crisis and Brexit is a factor in this shortage, no driver shortage, no panic buying, no crisis

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

As someone said anyone who thinks Brexit is the cause is a simpleton.

Brexit is a factor? Can you explain to me why this crisis only started last week then how comes its not been going on for months?

No idea, can you explain why the driver shortage is a problem this year but wasn’t last year ? so you have no facts to back up your claim then and really have no idea?

unbelievable.It seems martin daubney was right.

Yes its very simple covid, last year 30,000 hgv tests were suspended hardly any cars on the road due to lockdown.

Who are the road haulage association blaming for the driver shortage? So your saying Brexit had no affect ? Nothing ? Zip?

We are talking about the fuel crisis here why when there was the same ammount of drivers a month ago didnt we have a fuel crisis? its a very simple question and what has it to do with brexit?

We don’t have a ‘fuel shortage’ we have a shortage of drivers to deliver the fuel

We have a fuel ‘crisis’ that was started due to a shortage of drivers, simple really so when we had the same amount of drivers the month before why didnt we have one then?

What did the leaked document say? And did BP

limit the amount of fuel in their stations? Yes or no? Did panic buying make it worse, of course, did a driver shortage cause it, yes. No driver shortage, no panic buying, no ‘crisis ‘ Was there any problem the month before or even the week before the leak? Im glad you now see that its panic buying that has caused the crisis and not brexit i knew we would get there in the end.

Panic buying didn’t cause the crisis, it made it worse. A driver shortage ‘caused ‘ the crisis and Brexit is a factor in this shortage, no driver shortage, no panic buying, no crisis "
You keep going round in circles mate Brexit happened ages ago no fuel crisis nada, one leaked report and the whole country panics egged on by the media. How many returning eu nationals due to brexit were actually tanker drivers btw?

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

if brexit is not the problem why is reversing it for 5k visas the answer ?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"if brexit is not the problem why is reversing it for 5k visas the answer ? what you think the visas are for 5000 tanker drivers?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"if brexit is not the problem why is reversing it for 5k visas the answer ?

It’s a mystery

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over a year ago

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

As someone said anyone who thinks Brexit is the cause is a simpleton.

Brexit is a factor? Can you explain to me why this crisis only started last week then how comes its not been going on for months?

No idea, can you explain why the driver shortage is a problem this year but wasn’t last year ? so you have no facts to back up your claim then and really have no idea?

unbelievable.It seems martin daubney was right.

Yes its very simple covid, last year 30,000 hgv tests were suspended hardly any cars on the road due to lockdown.

Who are the road haulage association blaming for the driver shortage? So your saying Brexit had no affect ? Nothing ? Zip?

We are talking about the fuel crisis here why when there was the same ammount of drivers a month ago didnt we have a fuel crisis? its a very simple question and what has it to do with brexit?

We don’t have a ‘fuel shortage’ we have a shortage of drivers to deliver the fuel

We have a fuel ‘crisis’ that was started due to a shortage of drivers, simple really so when we had the same amount of drivers the month before why didnt we have one then?

What did the leaked document say? And did BP

limit the amount of fuel in their stations? Yes or no? Did panic buying make it worse, of course, did a driver shortage cause it, yes. No driver shortage, no panic buying, no ‘crisis ‘ Was there any problem the month before or even the week before the leak? Im glad you now see that its panic buying that has caused the crisis and not brexit i knew we would get there in the end.

Panic buying didn’t cause the crisis, it made it worse. A driver shortage ‘caused ‘ the crisis and Brexit is a factor in this shortage, no driver shortage, no panic buying, no crisis You keep going round in circles mate Brexit happened ages ago no fuel crisis nada, one leaked report and the whole country panics egged on by the media. How many returning eu nationals due to brexit were actually tanker drivers btw? "

What was in this leaked report? Who are the road haulage association blaming for driver shortages ?

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over a year ago

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

As someone said anyone who thinks Brexit is the cause is a simpleton.

Brexit is a factor? Can you explain to me why this crisis only started last week then how comes its not been going on for months?

No idea, can you explain why the driver shortage is a problem this year but wasn’t last year ? so you have no facts to back up your claim then and really have no idea?

unbelievable.It seems martin daubney was right.

Yes its very simple covid, last year 30,000 hgv tests were suspended hardly any cars on the road due to lockdown.

Who are the road haulage association blaming for the driver shortage? So your saying Brexit had no affect ? Nothing ? Zip?

We are talking about the fuel crisis here why when there was the same ammount of drivers a month ago didnt we have a fuel crisis? its a very simple question and what has it to do with brexit?

We don’t have a ‘fuel shortage’ we have a shortage of drivers to deliver the fuel

We have a fuel ‘crisis’ that was started due to a shortage of drivers, simple really "

So idiots panic buying and media scare mongering hasn’t contributed??

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over a year ago

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

As someone said anyone who thinks Brexit is the cause is a simpleton.

Brexit is a factor? Can you explain to me why this crisis only started last week then how comes its not been going on for months?

No idea, can you explain why the driver shortage is a problem this year but wasn’t last year ? so you have no facts to back up your claim then and really have no idea?

unbelievable.It seems martin daubney was right.

Yes its very simple covid, last year 30,000 hgv tests were suspended hardly any cars on the road due to lockdown.

Who are the road haulage association blaming for the driver shortage? So your saying Brexit had no affect ? Nothing ? Zip?

We are talking about the fuel crisis here why when there was the same ammount of drivers a month ago didnt we have a fuel crisis? its a very simple question and what has it to do with brexit?

We don’t have a ‘fuel shortage’ we have a shortage of drivers to deliver the fuel

We have a fuel ‘crisis’ that was started due to a shortage of drivers, simple really

So idiots panic buying and media scare mongering hasn’t contributed??"

Of course it has, like I stated before, so has driver shortages, so has Brexit, ‘Brexit is a factor’

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By *d4ugirlsMan
over a year ago

Green Cove Springs

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

As someone said anyone who thinks Brexit is the cause is a simpleton.

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over a year ago

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

As someone said anyone who thinks Brexit is the cause is a simpleton.

Brexit is a factor? Can you explain to me why this crisis only started last week then how comes its not been going on for months?

No idea, can you explain why the driver shortage is a problem this year but wasn’t last year ? so you have no facts to back up your claim then and really have no idea?

unbelievable.It seems martin daubney was right.

Yes its very simple covid, last year 30,000 hgv tests were suspended hardly any cars on the road due to lockdown.

Who are the road haulage association blaming for the driver shortage? So your saying Brexit had no affect ? Nothing ? Zip?

We are talking about the fuel crisis here why when there was the same ammount of drivers a month ago didnt we have a fuel crisis? its a very simple question and what has it to do with brexit?

We don’t have a ‘fuel shortage’ we have a shortage of drivers to deliver the fuel

We have a fuel ‘crisis’ that was started due to a shortage of drivers, simple really

So idiots panic buying and media scare mongering hasn’t contributed??

Of course it has, like I stated before, so has driver shortages, so has Brexit, ‘Brexit is a factor’ "

Every things a factor, the time of year, the weather, the pandemic. Tits heads buying more fuel than they need. Stop bitch about Brexit for christ sake. If you don’t like living in a UK under Brexit, then leave !

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By *ammskiMan
over a year ago

lytham st.annes

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

As someone said anyone who thinks Brexit is the cause is a simpleton.

Brexit is a factor? Can you explain to me why this crisis only started last week then how comes its not been going on for months?

No idea, can you explain why the driver shortage is a problem this year but wasn’t last year ? so you have no facts to back up your claim then and really have no idea?

unbelievable.It seems martin daubney was right.

Yes its very simple covid, last year 30,000 hgv tests were suspended hardly any cars on the road due to lockdown.

Who are the road haulage association blaming for the driver shortage? So your saying Brexit had no affect ? Nothing ? Zip?

We are talking about the fuel crisis here why when there was the same ammount of drivers a month ago didnt we have a fuel crisis? its a very simple question and what has it to do with brexit?

We don’t have a ‘fuel shortage’ we have a shortage of drivers to deliver the fuel

We have a fuel ‘crisis’ that was started due to a shortage of drivers, simple really

So idiots panic buying and media scare mongering hasn’t contributed??

Of course it has, like I stated before, so has driver shortages, so has Brexit, ‘Brexit is a factor’

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By *aughtycd44TV/TS
over a year ago

Lanark

If only we could but thanks to brexit and the end of freedom of movement that option has been made a tad harder

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over a year ago

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

As someone said anyone who thinks Brexit is the cause is a simpleton.

Brexit is a factor? Can you explain to me why this crisis only started last week then how comes its not been going on for months?

No idea, can you explain why the driver shortage is a problem this year but wasn’t last year ? so you have no facts to back up your claim then and really have no idea?

unbelievable.It seems martin daubney was right.

Yes its very simple covid, last year 30,000 hgv tests were suspended hardly any cars on the road due to lockdown.

Who are the road haulage association blaming for the driver shortage? So your saying Brexit had no affect ? Nothing ? Zip?

We are talking about the fuel crisis here why when there was the same ammount of drivers a month ago didnt we have a fuel crisis? its a very simple question and what has it to do with brexit?

We don’t have a ‘fuel shortage’ we have a shortage of drivers to deliver the fuel

We have a fuel ‘crisis’ that was started due to a shortage of drivers, simple really

So idiots panic buying and media scare mongering hasn’t contributed??

Of course it has, like I stated before, so has driver shortages, so has Brexit, ‘Brexit is a factor’

Did you read the OP? This thread is about Brexit being a factor, if you don’t like the thread subject I suggest you leave . Tbh I like living in greater Manchester, I have a lot of regional pride, not nearly as much national pride . You stated earlier that Brexit happened ages ago, when you get chance can you list all the tangible benefits of leaving the EU ?

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By *oxminxCouple
over a year ago

NaughtyVille *×* Laois

Not so sure Brexit is the issue for HGV drivers. It's the exact same here in Ireland.

Have to take into account many HGV driver's opted for new employment opportunities both during and after Covid lockdowns.

Plus as demand increases for fuel due to economic activity lifting there will undoubtedly be supply chain issues in every sector.

It's like all the other first world problems, the press and social media sluts trend the latest rant.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

The current crisis has everything to do with Brexit, as does the imminent energy crisis, as does the recent tax rises, as does the announcement to lower the salary limit to start paying back student loans.

Brexit has stopped inward movement of Labour which the country desperately needs (and has always needed). Cabotage ended with Brexit and the pool of HGV drivers including ADR shrank. Lockdowns and school holidays kept the demand for fuel down but September saw the country going back to work. The Eu has similar problems with a shortage of drivers but no other country is experiencing what we are and ironically, the only difference is that we left the EU. You have to truly be a simpleton to think that this has nothing to do with Brexit.

As for energy, our departure of the internal energy market and then knowingly dismantling gas storage facilities afterwards was at best negligent - but on par for this Government.

Tax rises are needed because the “Brexit Dividend” is simply not materialising and instead the Treasury is losing significant funds through a loss of tax revenue. A thriving “Brexit” economy would have negated any need for tax rises but the sanctions we have imposed on ourselves are proving costly to the Treasury. How come no-one could have foreseen that imposing sanctions on ourselves would be costly???

Brexit will keep on giving until this government simply runs out of wiggle room and gets overwhelmed with problems. Only then will the country really be able to have an informed conversation about the damage being done by Brexit,

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

The shortage started with ostensibly three different companies, only it didn’t. It started with BP, Esso & Tesco.

However BP & Esso are owned by Exxon Mobile, chances are they use the same driver pool, sub contractors etc. So if BP are short for whatever reason so in all likelihood will be Esso soon enough.

Tesco have approx 500 fuel stations run by other companies, the rest they own lock, stock & barrel. The only station reporting issues were the ones run by? You guessed it Esso.

Compare that to Shell who use the same subcontractor Hoyer, except back around January Shell told Hoyer to supply a third more drivers & tractor/trailer units in preparation for the Euro drivers disappearing, signed a contract & THEY GOT THEM.

So now BP need tanker drivers & they can’t get them, one thing that’ll stick in their throats more than anything else is watching the competition earn while they don’t.

So they turned their bad planning & shortsightedness issue into everyone’s issue with the help of the MSM & the general population of gullible sheep.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

We have a general shortage of drivers (among other jobs like hospitality/care staff etc) partly due to Brexit and made worse by pandemic. But that didn't cause the current mess."

No. the tory government were warned at a meeting last monday by the fuel industry that this crisis was inevitable unless the tory government acted on the situation. the tory government chose to ignore those warnings and 8 days on has still failed to act on the crisis now known to be entirely of tory governments making.

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over a year ago

"if brexit is not the problem why is reversing it for 5k visas the answer ?

I asked a v similar question on another thread.

I'm sure a Brexiter will answer it with perfect logic.

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By *lan157Man
over a year ago

a village near Haywards Heath in East Sussex

The situation will be resolved in a few days or a week . The scare mongering media have just caused huge amounts of fuel to be transferred from petrol stations to sit unused in many cars . There was no fuel shortage at pumps previously.Petrol stations have occasionally closed for lack of timely delivery for as long as I have been driving.

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"if brexit is not the problem why is reversing it for 5k visas the answer ?

I asked a v similar question on another thread.

I'm sure a Brexiter will answer it with perfect logic.

Didn't Brexiteers want controlled immigration? Sounds like exactly what was promised to me

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By *isandhers691127Couple
over a year ago

Bournemouth

So this chaos is part of the grand plan then? Right ok...

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"So this chaos is part of the grand plan then? Right ok..."

There are several posts in this thread that explain exactly what happened. If you choose to ignore the reality of the situation I can't help you I'm afraid

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over a year ago

"if brexit is not the problem why is reversing it for 5k visas the answer ?

I asked a v similar question on another thread.

I'm sure a Brexiter will answer it with perfect logic.

Didn't Brexiteers want controlled immigration? Sounds like exactly what was promised to me "

Controlled?, wait until their is chronic shortage then offer temporary 3 month visas that nobody will be interested in? That type of promise ?

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By *andy 1Couple
over a year ago

northeast

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

As someone said anyone who thinks Brexit is the cause is a simpleton.

Brexit is a factor? Can you explain to me why this crisis only started last week then how comes its not been going on for months?

No idea, can you explain why the driver shortage is a problem this year but wasn’t last year ? so you have no facts to back up your claim then and really have no idea?

unbelievable.It seems martin daubney was right.

Yes its very simple covid, last year 30,000 hgv tests were suspended hardly any cars on the road due to lockdown.

Who are the road haulage association blaming for the driver shortage? So your saying Brexit had no affect ? Nothing ? Zip?

We are talking about the fuel crisis here why when there was the same ammount of drivers a month ago didnt we have a fuel crisis? its a very simple question and what has it to do with brexit?

We don’t have a ‘fuel shortage’ we have a shortage of drivers to deliver the fuel

We have a fuel ‘crisis’ that was started due to a shortage of drivers, simple really so when we had the same amount of drivers the month before why didnt we have one then?

What did the leaked document say? And did BP

limit the amount of fuel in their stations? Yes or no? Did panic buying make it worse, of course, did a driver shortage cause it, yes. No driver shortage, no panic buying, no ‘crisis ‘ Was there any problem the month before or even the week before the leak? Im glad you now see that its panic buying that has caused the crisis and not brexit i knew we would get there in the end."

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"if brexit is not the problem why is reversing it for 5k visas the answer ?

I asked a v similar question on another thread.

I'm sure a Brexiter will answer it with perfect logic.

Didn't Brexiteers want controlled immigration? Sounds like exactly what was promised to me

Controlled?, wait until their is chronic shortage then offer temporary 3 month visas that nobody will be interested in? That type of promise ? "

11000 EU nationals with HGV licenses left the UK. There are still 250,000 UK based drivers. There is no shortage and no matter how many times this is explained to you it will make no difference - you will never grow tired of being wrong

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over a year ago

"if brexit is not the problem why is reversing it for 5k visas the answer ?

I asked a v similar question on another thread.

I'm sure a Brexiter will answer it with perfect logic.

Didn't Brexiteers want controlled immigration? Sounds like exactly what was promised to me

Controlled?, wait until their is chronic shortage then offer temporary 3 month visas that nobody will be interested in? That type of promise ?

I will believe the road haulage association, not a random man with his arse out on a sex site

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over a year ago

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

As someone said anyone who thinks Brexit is the cause is a simpleton.

Brexit is a factor? Can you explain to me why this crisis only started last week then how comes its not been going on for months?

No idea, can you explain why the driver shortage is a problem this year but wasn’t last year ? so you have no facts to back up your claim then and really have no idea?

unbelievable.It seems martin daubney was right.

Yes its very simple covid, last year 30,000 hgv tests were suspended hardly any cars on the road due to lockdown.

Who are the road haulage association blaming for the driver shortage? So your saying Brexit had no affect ? Nothing ? Zip?

We are talking about the fuel crisis here why when there was the same ammount of drivers a month ago didnt we have a fuel crisis? its a very simple question and what has it to do with brexit?

We don’t have a ‘fuel shortage’ we have a shortage of drivers to deliver the fuel

We have a fuel ‘crisis’ that was started due to a shortage of drivers, simple really so when we had the same amount of drivers the month before why didnt we have one then?

What did the leaked document say? And did BP

limit the amount of fuel in their stations? Yes or no? Did panic buying make it worse, of course, did a driver shortage cause it, yes. No driver shortage, no panic buying, no ‘crisis ‘ Was there any problem the month before or even the week before the leak? Im glad you now see that its panic buying that has caused the crisis and not brexit i knew we would get there in the end.

Why only 5 thumbs ??

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over a year ago

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

We have a general shortage of drivers (among other jobs like hospitality/care staff etc) partly due to Brexit and made worse by pandemic. But that didn't cause the current mess."

The hiccup was delays at the border control, a direct result of Brexit.

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By *entadreadMan
over a year ago

Essex

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

As someone said anyone who thinks Brexit is the cause is a simpleton.

Brexit is a factor? Can you explain to me why this crisis only started last week then how comes its not been going on for months?

No idea, can you explain why the driver shortage is a problem this year but wasn’t last year ? so you have no facts to back up your claim then and really have no idea?

unbelievable.It seems martin daubney was right.

Yes its very simple covid, last year 30,000 hgv tests were suspended hardly any cars on the road due to lockdown.

Who are the road haulage association blaming for the driver shortage? So your saying Brexit had no affect ? Nothing ? Zip?

We are talking about the fuel crisis here why when there was the same ammount of drivers a month ago didnt we have a fuel crisis? its a very simple question and what has it to do with brexit?

We don’t have a ‘fuel shortage’ we have a shortage of drivers to deliver the fuel

It does not make a difference to me as a driver at the forecourt, bottom line is the pumps are empty.

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By *entadreadMan
over a year ago

Essex

"if brexit is not the problem why is reversing it for 5k visas the answer ?

I asked a v similar question on another thread.

I'm sure a Brexiter will answer it with perfect logic.

Didn't Brexiteers want controlled immigration? Sounds like exactly what was promised to me

Controlled?, wait until their is chronic shortage then offer temporary 3 month visas that nobody will be interested in? That type of promise ?

The issue is what the 250k British based drivers are doing. And yes there is a shortage of drivers.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Just a thought…. If the government are blaming a leaked report that caused this issue, then would that not suggest that people in high places knew that there was an issue at least coming… but didn’t want people to know about it till they came up with a solution

Is which case, are the government just mad because it has fucked up their timeline!

You can’t say it took them by surprise because they had a f’ing report

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By *entadreadMan
over a year ago

Essex

"Just a thought…. If the government are blaming a leaked report that caused this issue, then would that not suggest that people in high places knew that there was an issue at least coming… but didn’t want people to know about it till they came up with a solution

Is which case, are the government just mad because it has fucked up their timeline!

You can’t say it took them by surprise because they had a f’ing report

For some reason this government tends to be surprised when stuff they know will go tits up, actually does, from the Fishermen, to goods in NI, truck driver shortages, Afghanistan, school exams...

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"if brexit is not the problem why is reversing it for 5k visas the answer ?

I asked a v similar question on another thread.

I'm sure a Brexiter will answer it with perfect logic.

Didn't Brexiteers want controlled immigration? Sounds like exactly what was promised to me

Controlled?, wait until their is chronic shortage then offer temporary 3 month visas that nobody will be interested in? That type of promise ?

I will believe the road haulage association, not a random man with his arse out on a sex site

Showing your maturity again I see

Go to the ONS, its all on there, the number of HGV drivers has been dropping for years and it's the same across Europe. There were also 40,000 tests cancelled last year but we all know that you're not interested in the facts. You seem to spend your life either clutching at straws or clutching your pearls

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over a year ago

Is which case, are the government just mad because it has fucked up their timeline!

You can’t say it took them by surprise because they had a f’ing report

They do have a habit of ignoring reports, though.

They ignored Yellowhammer.

They ignored Cygnus.

They ignored the Russia report.

etc...

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"The shortage started with ostensibly three different companies, only it didn’t. It started with BP, Esso & Tesco.

However BP & Esso are owned by Exxon Mobile, chances are they use the same driver pool, sub contractors etc. So if BP are short for whatever reason so in all likelihood will be Esso soon enough.

Tesco have approx 500 fuel stations run by other companies, the rest they own lock, stock & barrel. The only station reporting issues were the ones run by? You guessed it Esso.

So now BP need tanker drivers & they can’t get them, one thing that’ll stick in their throats more than anything else is watching the competition earn while they don’t.

So they turned their bad planning & shortsightedness issue into everyone’s issue with the help of the MSM & the general population of gullible sheep.

Except that ignores the full reality. The country has had driver shortages since before January. The pooled resource of trained drivers is all that the country has had available, to be able to drive trucks. Several thousand EU drivers have left the UK, since the Brexit vote, reducing the ability of the country overall. It created a significant deficit in our ability to have enough drivers. Like many things, with a less solid foundation, resilience is stressed and evident more so at some points than others. Brexit caused our infrastructure to become unfit for the needs that we have, during the course of business as usual.

Trying to pretend that Brexit wasn't a substantial cause of our failing delivery abilities, including of vehicle fuel, is disingenuous and tragic to see.

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

Is which case, are the government just mad because it has fucked up their timeline!

You can’t say it took them by surprise because they had a f’ing report

For some reason this government tends to be surprised when stuff they know will go tits up, actually does, from the Fishermen, to goods in NI, truck driver shortages, Afghanistan, school exams...

The shortage of hgv drivers for private companies is not a government problem but an industry problem.

Too long has the industry been relying on foreign drivers and not investing in drivers here or improving facilities and working conditions and realistic pay for our drivers.

Yes brexit will have had some effect but there’s no getting away from the fact that this has been happening for years even before brexit

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

As someone said anyone who thinks Brexit is the cause is a simpleton.

Brexit is a factor? Can you explain to me why this crisis only started last week then how comes its not been going on for months?

No idea, can you explain why the driver shortage is a problem this year but wasn’t last year ? "

It's been a worsening problem for the last decade.

But why this year and not last year?...

Out of lockdowns,

People still furloughed,

54,000 licences, incl renewals, held up by DVLA because of Covid,

Drivers retiring,

Not enough CPC courses...because of lockdowns,

Medicals not being carried out by Doctors, because they won't see anyone...because of Covid...

But, on Sunday "90% of fuel stations were empty ",

Within 3 days this has dropped to 27%,

By Friday this will be practically zero...

Yep, really sounds like a lack of drivers and fuel.

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By *or Fox SakeCouple
over a year ago

Thornaby

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

As someone said anyone who thinks Brexit is the cause is a simpleton.

Brexit is a factor? Can you explain to me why this crisis only started last week then how comes its not been going on for months?

No idea, can you explain why the driver shortage is a problem this year but wasn’t last year ? so you have no facts to back up your claim then and really have no idea?

unbelievable.It seems martin daubney was right.

Yes its very simple covid, last year 30,000 hgv tests were suspended hardly any cars on the road due to lockdown."

And in that period more HGV tests done than in the previous year

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By *inkywife1981Couple
over a year ago

A town near you

There is a shortage of truck drivers in Ireland as well and I've heard other European countries have problems too.

So does Canada btw.

Granted we don't have an economy any where as big as the UK so driver shortages don't have the same impact.

Maybe Ireland and UK should follow some of the other countries around the world where national service is still in place and many people learn to drive a truck while serving

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The current crisis has everything to do with Brexit, as does the imminent energy crisis, as does the recent tax rises, as does the announcement to lower the salary limit to start paying back student loans.

As for energy, our departure of the internal energy market and then knowingly dismantling gas storage facilities afterwards was at best negligent - but on par for this Government.

Absolutely right

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tories have failed miserably, they are a government of chaos.

Only Labour can bring back stability to the country and keep us one nation.

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By *rLibertineMan
over a year ago

North Suffolk

There seems to be an increasing desperation amongst many to come up with reasons (any reasons) why Brexit is simply not, in any way, a contributory factor for the current shit show….

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By *mateur100Man
over a year ago

nr faversham

"Tories have failed miserably, they are a government of chaos.

Only Labour can bring back stability to the country and keep us one nation."

Only labour can do this? Really?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Tories have failed miserably, they are a government of chaos.

Only Labour can bring back stability to the country and keep us one nation.

Only labour can do this? Really?"

Yes.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"There seems to be an increasing desperation amongst many to come up with reasons (any reasons) why Brexit is simply not, in any way, a contributory factor for the current shit show….

Pretty much. It's as if they know deep down Brexit is shit and they're desperately trying to come up with any reason why it isn't.

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

"There is a shortage of truck drivers in Ireland as well and I've heard other European countries have problems too.

So does Canada btw.

Granted we don't have an economy any where as big as the UK so driver shortages don't have the same impact.

Maybe Ireland and UK should follow some of the other countries around the world where national service is still in place and many people learn to drive a truck while serving "

Or they could simply treat drivers better and pay them for the lifestyle they take on

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By *rLibertineMan
over a year ago

North Suffolk

"There is a shortage of truck drivers in Ireland as well and I've heard other European countries have problems too.

So does Canada btw.

Granted we don't have an economy any where as big as the UK so driver shortages don't have the same impact.

Maybe Ireland and UK should follow some of the other countries around the world where national service is still in place and many people learn to drive a truck while serving

Or they could simply treat drivers better and pay them for the lifestyle they take on

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One of the key stated benefits of Brexit is that it will result in wage increases. So what you have suggested is the answer should soon be happening……….

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"4 weeks ago we had the same number of tanker drivers and no problem.

Then a minor hiccup last week meant that 12 (out of 1200) BP garages had a late delivery and ran dry. Along with half a dozen Esso/Tesco garages.

Then the media decided to make a big headline out of it....and the word went mad.

As someone said anyone who thinks Brexit is the cause is a simpleton.

Brexit is a factor? Can you explain to me why this crisis only started last week then how comes its not been going on for months?

No idea, can you explain why the driver shortage is a problem this year but wasn’t last year ? so you have no facts to back up your claim then and really have no idea?

unbelievable.It seems martin daubney was right.

Yes its very simple covid, last year 30,000 hgv tests were suspended hardly any cars on the road due to lockdown.

Who are the road haulage association blaming for the driver shortage? So your saying Brexit had no affect ? Nothing ? Zip?

We are talking about the fuel crisis here why when there was the same ammount of drivers a month ago didnt we have a fuel crisis? its a very simple question and what has it to do with brexit?

We don’t have a ‘fuel shortage’ we have a shortage of drivers to deliver the fuel

We have a fuel ‘crisis’ that was started due to a shortage of drivers, simple really so when we had the same amount of drivers the month before why didnt we have one then?

What did the leaked document say? And did BP

limit the amount of fuel in their stations? Yes or no? Did panic buying make it worse, of course, did a driver shortage cause it, yes. No driver shortage, no panic buying, no ‘crisis ‘ Was there any problem the month before or even the week before the leak? Im glad you now see that its panic buying that has caused the crisis and not brexit i knew we would get there in the end."

The current crisis shows there's no contingency in the delivery supply chain, due to a shortage of drivers.

A spike in demand, created by many reasons, basically brought the system to shut down, this wasn't the case last month.

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

Simple question, prior to Brexit, the drivers being "Short" etc etc etc.

Had no one ever stopped for fuel & seen the yellow "Not in use" covers on all the diesel or petrol pumps because they had run out?

Did you shit your pants & panic? or did you just drive to another petrol station?

People especially the media are too quick to bandy big impact sensationalist words around like "Crisis" Etc.

What's that insurance companies tag again "We won't make a drama out of a crisis".

Seems many didn't listen. It wasn't a "Crisis" to start with, we made it one & played right into the hands of big business & the media. it was much less than 1% of a network of fuel stations running out, something that prior to this event has been happening due to RTA's, sickness whatever somewhere in a petrol station around the country probably every blooming day.

When did we turn into such a bunch of whiny morons?

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over a year ago

"Simple question, prior to Brexit, the drivers being "Short" etc etc etc.

Had no one ever stopped for fuel & seen the yellow "Not in use" covers on all the diesel or petrol pumps because they had run out?

Did you shit your pants & panic? or did you just drive to another petrol station?

People especially the media are too quick to bandy big impact sensationalist words around like "Crisis" Etc.

What's that insurance companies tag again "We won't make a drama out of a crisis".

When did we turn into such a bunch of whiny morons?

It seems like your being whiny about people being whiny ?

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

"Simple question, prior to Brexit, the drivers being "Short" etc etc etc.

Had no one ever stopped for fuel & seen the yellow "Not in use" covers on all the diesel or petrol pumps because they had run out?

Did you shit your pants & panic? or did you just drive to another petrol station?

People especially the media are too quick to bandy big impact sensationalist words around like "Crisis" Etc.

What's that insurance companies tag again "We won't make a drama out of a crisis".

When did we turn into such a bunch of whiny morons?

Probably around 2016 when the vote went the wrong way for some

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over a year ago

"Simple question, prior to Brexit, the drivers being "Short" etc etc etc.

Had no one ever stopped for fuel & seen the yellow "Not in use" covers on all the diesel or petrol pumps because they had run out?

Did you shit your pants & panic? or did you just drive to another petrol station?

People especially the media are too quick to bandy big impact sensationalist words around like "Crisis" Etc.

What's that insurance companies tag again "We won't make a drama out of a crisis".

When did we turn into such a bunch of whiny morons?

Probably around 2016 when the vote went the wrong way for some

I think it was in 1975 when the vote went the wrong way for some

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"Simple question, prior to Brexit, the drivers being "Short" etc etc etc.

Had no one ever stopped for fuel & seen the yellow "Not in use" covers on all the diesel or petrol pumps because they had run out?

Did you shit your pants & panic? or did you just drive to another petrol station?

People especially the media are too quick to bandy big impact sensationalist words around like "Crisis" Etc.

What's that insurance companies tag again "We won't make a drama out of a crisis".

When did we turn into such a bunch of whiny morons?

S"
im been honest iv not seen any queues at any station yet not heard of any either we must have been lucky up here then lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Simple question, prior to Brexit, the drivers being "Short" etc etc etc.

Had no one ever stopped for fuel & seen the yellow "Not in use" covers on all the diesel or petrol pumps because they had run out?

Did you shit your pants & panic? or did you just drive to another petrol station?

People especially the media are too quick to bandy big impact sensationalist words around like "Crisis" Etc.

What's that insurance companies tag again "We won't make a drama out of a crisis".

When did we turn into such a bunch of whiny morons?

Sim been honest iv not seen any queues at any station yet not heard of any either we must have been lucky up here then lol"

It’s been bad around here, at the end of the day if this government tell people there isn’t a crusts then don’t be surprised when people ignore them. I haven’t been ‘panic ‘ buying but I can see why people have, it’s a complete fuck up from top to bottom

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Simple question, prior to Brexit, the drivers being "Short" etc etc etc.

Had no one ever stopped for fuel & seen the yellow "Not in use" covers on all the diesel or petrol pumps because they had run out?

Did you shit your pants & panic? or did you just drive to another petrol station?

People especially the media are too quick to bandy big impact sensationalist words around like "Crisis" Etc.

What's that insurance companies tag again "We won't make a drama out of a crisis".

When did we turn into such a bunch of whiny morons?

Sim been honest iv not seen any queues at any station yet not heard of any either we must have been lucky up here then lol

Crust

, crisis

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

"Simple question, prior to Brexit, the drivers being "Short" etc etc etc.

Had no one ever stopped for fuel & seen the yellow "Not in use" covers on all the diesel or petrol pumps because they had run out?

Did you shit your pants & panic? or did you just drive to another petrol station?

People especially the media are too quick to bandy big impact sensationalist words around like "Crisis" Etc.

What's that insurance companies tag again "We won't make a drama out of a crisis".

When did we turn into such a bunch of whiny morons?

Sim been honest iv not seen any queues at any station yet not heard of any either we must have been lucky up here then lol"

Outside of the bigger towns theres been no issues here, Where I fill up with LPG they had to restrict customers to £20 but this was because they are very small (like two pumps) very rural & wanted to look after the locals & ensure their supply more than any shortage. I've not seen any ques nor has anyone run out in these parts.

Prices haven't gone up either.

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over a year ago

"Simple question, prior to Brexit, the drivers being "Short" etc etc etc.

Had no one ever stopped for fuel & seen the yellow "Not in use" covers on all the diesel or petrol pumps because they had run out?

Did you shit your pants & panic? or did you just drive to another petrol station?

People especially the media are too quick to bandy big impact sensationalist words around like "Crisis" Etc.

What's that insurance companies tag again "We won't make a drama out of a crisis".

When did we turn into such a bunch of whiny morons?

Sim been honest iv not seen any queues at any station yet not heard of any either we must have been lucky up here then lol

Prices haven't gone up either.

Petrol prices are at an 8 year high

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

Petrol prices are at an 8 year high "

Really? It's dearer in these parts anyway but been 138/135 derv/petrol for weeks & weeks now & i'm sure it's hit 140+ since we moved here three years ago.

LPG is going up though, was 55p eighteen months ago now 75p & due another increase.

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

"... Can you explain to me why this crisis only started last week then how comes its not been going on for months? "

In order to make sure that most of the news coverage has not been about the Labour Party conference?

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

"...

In order to make sure that most of the news coverage has not been about the Labour Party conference? "

Would that have been organised by the Cons to protect their fragile position or Labour themselves because they spent the week slapping their backs but saying fck all?

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By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS
over a year ago

Notts

Yeah it's like when the government didn't make enough toilet roll at start of covid... shit heads lol

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

so brexit was not a factor then.

All those doom and gloom mongers proved wrong yet again the data is out.

https://news.sky.com/story/how-an-extra-five-litres-of-petrol-meant-the-country-ground-to-a-halt-12426700

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

Petrol prices are at an 8 year high

Really? It's dearer in these parts anyway but been 138/135 derv/petrol for weeks & weeks now & i'm sure it's hit 140+ since we moved here three years ago.

LPG is going up though, was 55p eighteen months ago now 75p & due another increase.

Petrol will keep rising in price. OPEC aren't raising production, and thats pushed oil higher. Brent is currently just under 83 dollars per barrel, highest for over three years.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

Anyone having trouble getting petrol now?

Im not plenty round here so my question is have all those drivers lost to brexit ( who caused it allegedly by some on here ) returned in the last week or so ?

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

"Anyone having trouble getting petrol now?

Im not plenty round here so my question is have all those drivers lost to brexit ( who caused it allegedly by some on here ) returned in the last week or so ?

There never was a shortage of tanker drivers.

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over a year ago

"Anyone having trouble getting petrol now?

Im not plenty round here so my question is have all those drivers lost to brexit ( who caused it allegedly by some on here ) returned in the last week or so ?

Why were the army drafted in to help ?

Why did the government grant 5,000 temporary visas ?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Anyone having trouble getting petrol now?

Im not plenty round here so my question is have all those drivers lost to brexit ( who caused it allegedly by some on here ) returned in the last week or so ?

Why were the army drafted in to help ?

Why did the government grant 5,000 temporary visas ? "
you having any trouble getting it where you are?

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over a year ago

"Anyone having trouble getting petrol now?

Im not plenty round here so my question is have all those drivers lost to brexit ( who caused it allegedly by some on here ) returned in the last week or so ?

Why were the army drafted in to help ?

Why did the government grant 5,000 temporary visas ? you having any trouble getting it where you are?"

No trouble at all, shall I ask you again?

Why were the army drafted into help?

Why have the government granted 5,000 temporary visas?

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"Anyone having trouble getting petrol now?

Im not plenty round here so my question is have all those drivers lost to brexit ( who caused it allegedly by some on here ) returned in the last week or so ?

Why were the army drafted in to help ?

Why did the government grant 5,000 temporary visas ? you having any trouble getting it where you are?

No trouble at all, shall I ask you again?

Why were the army drafted into help?

Why have the government granted 5,000 temporary visas?

Because people lost their heads and emptied the petrol stations en mass

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Anyone having trouble getting petrol now?

Im not plenty round here so my question is have all those drivers lost to brexit ( who caused it allegedly by some on here ) returned in the last week or so ?

Why were the army drafted in to help ?

Why did the government grant 5,000 temporary visas ? you having any trouble getting it where you are?

No trouble at all, shall I ask you again?

Why were the army drafted into help?

Why have the government granted 5,000 temporary visas?

Because people lost their heads and emptied the petrol stations en mass"

I see, why did they do that?

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Anyone having trouble getting petrol now?

Im not plenty round here so my question is have all those drivers lost to brexit ( who caused it allegedly by some on here ) returned in the last week or so ?

Why were the army drafted in to help ?

Why did the government grant 5,000 temporary visas ? you having any trouble getting it where you are?

No trouble at all, shall I ask you again?

Why were the army drafted into help?

Why have the government granted 5,000 temporary visas?

Because people lost their heads and emptied the petrol stations en mass

I see, why did they do that?

You'd rather labour markets were opened up to cheap labour indefinitely?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Anyone having trouble getting petrol now?

Im not plenty round here so my question is have all those drivers lost to brexit ( who caused it allegedly by some on here ) returned in the last week or so ?

Why were the army drafted in to help ?

Why did the government grant 5,000 temporary visas ? you having any trouble getting it where you are?

No trouble at all, shall I ask you again?

Why were the army drafted into help?

Why have the government granted 5,000 temporary visas?

Because people lost their heads and emptied the petrol stations en mass

I see, why did they do that?

You'd rather labour markets were opened up to cheap labour indefinitely?"

Irrelevant, why did people ‘panic buy’ petrol?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Anyone having trouble getting petrol now?

Im not plenty round here so my question is have all those drivers lost to brexit ( who caused it allegedly by some on here ) returned in the last week or so ?

Why were the army drafted in to help ?

Why did the government grant 5,000 temporary visas ? you having any trouble getting it where you are?

No trouble at all, shall I ask you again?

Why were the army drafted into help?

Why have the government granted 5,000 temporary visas?

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very simple to placate people such as yourself who could not see that it was all caused by panic buying due to some remainer blaming it on brexit.

So i will ask you again how come there is no shortage now have all those who you claim caused it by leaving due to brexit returned or will you finally admit it was panic buying that caused it?

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over a year ago

"Anyone having trouble getting petrol now?

Im not plenty round here so my question is have all those drivers lost to brexit ( who caused it allegedly by some on here ) returned in the last week or so ?

Why were the army drafted in to help ?

Why did the government grant 5,000 temporary visas ? you having any trouble getting it where you are?

No trouble at all, shall I ask you again?

Why were the army drafted into help?

Why have the government granted 5,000 temporary visas?

very simple to placate people such as yourself who could not see that it was all caused by panic buying due to some remainer blaming it on brexit.

So i will ask you again how come there is no shortage now have all those who you claim caused it by leaving due to brexit returned or will you finally admit it was panic buying that caused it?

I didn’t panic buy but why did others panic buy, what triggered this? The army were drafted into help,

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Anyone having trouble getting petrol now?

Im not plenty round here so my question is have all those drivers lost to brexit ( who caused it allegedly by some on here ) returned in the last week or so ?

Why were the army drafted in to help ?

Why did the government grant 5,000 temporary visas ? you having any trouble getting it where you are?

No trouble at all, shall I ask you again?

Why were the army drafted into help?

Why have the government granted 5,000 temporary visas?

very simple to placate people such as yourself who could not see that it was all caused by panic buying due to some remainer blaming it on brexit.

So i will ask you again how come there is no shortage now have all those who you claim caused it by leaving due to brexit returned or will you finally admit it was panic buying that caused it?

I didn’t panic buy but why did others panic buy, what triggered this? The army were drafted into help, "
im not going on your little merry go round thank you, not answering questions but asking other questions its been explained

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over a year ago

Here's my take Brexit wasn't a factor. panic buying and pandemic where and are the problem we have 8 driver's one spare lorry on average a garage gets refiled every 3 days under normal conditions that's fine but because a driver off covid and panic buying said garages ran out earlier than usual there is little scope to change delivery dates as no extra driver's and limited hours we can work so the army was put on standby to fill those days we couldn't do no point in extra driver's because it was only a few days like now back to working normal hours yes could employ extra driver's but no point as no work now for them hope this helps your Brexit theory.

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over a year ago

"Anyone having trouble getting petrol now?

Im not plenty round here so my question is have all those drivers lost to brexit ( who caused it allegedly by some on here ) returned in the last week or so ?

Why were the army drafted in to help ?

Why did the government grant 5,000 temporary visas ? you having any trouble getting it where you are?

No trouble at all, shall I ask you again?

Why were the army drafted into help?

Why have the government granted 5,000 temporary visas?

very simple to placate people such as yourself who could not see that it was all caused by panic buying due to some remainer blaming it on brexit.

So i will ask you again how come there is no shortage now have all those who you claim caused it by leaving due to brexit returned or will you finally admit it was panic buying that caused it?

I didn’t panic buy but why did others panic buy, what triggered this? The army were drafted into help, im not going on your little merry go round thank you, not answering questions but asking other questions its been explained "

I have answered the question, the army were drafted into help. I guess you don’t know why people started to ‘panic buy’ petrol it might explain your confusion

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over a year ago

"Here's my take Brexit wasn't a factor. panic buying and pandemic where and are the problem we have 8 driver's one spare lorry on average a garage gets refiled every 3 days under normal conditions that's fine but because a driver off covid and panic buying said garages ran out earlier than usual there is little scope to change delivery dates as no extra driver's and limited hours we can work so the army was put on standby to fill those days we couldn't do no point in extra driver's because it was only a few days like now back to working normal hours yes could employ extra driver's but no point as no work now for them hope this helps your Brexit theory."

I get what your saying, but why did people start panic buying?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I get what your saying, but why did people start panic buying? "
because there sheep and the media said that's my theory

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over a year ago

I get what your saying, but why did people start panic buying? because there sheep and the media said that's my theory "

What did the media say? Did they base their ‘stories’ on anything, or did they just make it all up?

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over a year ago

I get what your saying, but why did people start panic buying? because there sheep and the media said that's my theory

What did the media say? Did they base their ‘stories’ on anything, or did they just make it all up? "
they extended the truth shall I say as said it was a handful so not even what a normal town would have that was having trouble so the bigged it up because it sells

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By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS
over a year ago

Notts

yes john the lorry driver broke his leg and was off for a bit that was also a factor.... not a very big one but it was a factor! Was brexit a major factor or was it more panic buying? was brexit a major factor or was it lorry drivers being treated like shit for decades?...etc etc... yes lots of factors then!

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over a year ago

I get what your saying, but why did people start panic buying? because there sheep and the media said that's my theory

What did the media say? Did they base their ‘stories’ on anything, or did they just make it all up? they extended the truth shall I say as said it was a handful so not even what a normal town would have that was having trouble so the bigged it up because it sells "

I agree, panic buying mage the situation worse, but the story was based on a ‘leaked report’ so it had some truth behind it

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over a year ago

"yes john the lorry driver broke his leg and was off for a bit that was also a factor.... not a very big one but it was a factor! Was brexit a major factor or was it more panic buying? was brexit a major factor or was it lorry drivers being treated like shit for decades?...etc etc... yes lots of factors then!

Have you read the report that the media story was based on? It didn’t mention John breaking his leg

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

I get what your saying, but why did people start panic buying? because there sheep and the media said that's my theory

I agree, panic buying mage the situation worse, but the story was based on a ‘leaked report’ so it had some truth behind it "

The report wasn't leaked, 'carefully selected excerpts' of the report were handed to somebody at the BBC, somebody who was a staunch remainer

A remainer at the BBC, who'd have thought it

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over a year ago

I get what your saying, but why did people start panic buying? because there sheep and the media said that's my theory

I agree, panic buying mage the situation worse, but the story was based on a ‘leaked report’ so it had some truth behind it

The report wasn't leaked, 'carefully selected excerpts' of the report were handed to somebody at the BBC, somebody who was a staunch remainer

A remainer at the BBC, who'd have thought it

It is irrelevant who leaked it, have you read it?

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over a year ago

South of Ipswich

I get what your saying, but why did people start panic buying? because there sheep and the media said that's my theory

I agree, panic buying mage the situation worse, but the story was based on a ‘leaked report’ so it had some truth behind it

The report wasn't leaked, 'carefully selected excerpts' of the report were handed to somebody at the BBC, somebody who was a staunch remainer

A remainer at the BBC, who'd have thought it

It is irrelevant who leaked it, have you read it? "

No more than you have

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over a year ago

I get what your saying, but why did people start panic buying? because there sheep and the media said that's my theory

I agree, panic buying mage the situation worse, but the story was based on a ‘leaked report’ so it had some truth behind it

The report wasn't leaked, 'carefully selected excerpts' of the report were handed to somebody at the BBC, somebody who was a staunch remainer

A remainer at the BBC, who'd have thought it

It is irrelevant who leaked it, have you read it?

No more than you have"

Well done, have you read the title of the OP?

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over a year ago

South of Ipswich

I get what your saying, but why did people start panic buying? because there sheep and the media said that's my theory

I agree, panic buying mage the situation worse, but the story was based on a ‘leaked report’ so it had some truth behind it

The report wasn't leaked, 'carefully selected excerpts' of the report were handed to somebody at the BBC, somebody who was a staunch remainer

A remainer at the BBC, who'd have thought it

It is irrelevant who leaked it, have you read it?

No more than you have

Well done, have you read the title of the OP? "

Yes. You and GS were both wrong. Better luck next time

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over a year ago

I get what your saying, but why did people start panic buying? because there sheep and the media said that's my theory

I agree, panic buying mage the situation worse, but the story was based on a ‘leaked report’ so it had some truth behind it

The report wasn't leaked, 'carefully selected excerpts' of the report were handed to somebody at the BBC, somebody who was a staunch remainer

A remainer at the BBC, who'd have thought it

It is irrelevant who leaked it, have you read it?

No more than you have

Well done, have you read the title of the OP?

Yes. You and GS were both wrong. Better luck next time

Of course, denial is probably your only option,

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

I get what your saying, but why did people start panic buying? because there sheep and the media said that's my theory

I agree, panic buying mage the situation worse, but the story was based on a ‘leaked report’ so it had some truth behind it

The report wasn't leaked, 'carefully selected excerpts' of the report were handed to somebody at the BBC, somebody who was a staunch remainer

A remainer at the BBC, who'd have thought it

It is irrelevant who leaked it, have you read it?

No more than you have

Well done, have you read the title of the OP?

Yes. You and GS were both wrong. Better luck next time

Of course, denial is probably your only option,

Facts are the only option

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I get what your saying, but why did people start panic buying? because there sheep and the media said that's my theory

I agree, panic buying mage the situation worse, but the story was based on a ‘leaked report’ so it had some truth behind it

The report wasn't leaked, 'carefully selected excerpts' of the report were handed to somebody at the BBC, somebody who was a staunch remainer

A remainer at the BBC, who'd have thought it

It is irrelevant who leaked it, have you read it?

No more than you have

Well done, have you read the title of the OP?

Yes. You and GS were both wrong. Better luck next time

Of course, denial is probably your only option,

Facts are the only option "

The facts are in the report, have a read,

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

I get what your saying, but why did people start panic buying? because there sheep and the media said that's my theory

I agree, panic buying mage the situation worse, but the story was based on a ‘leaked report’ so it had some truth behind it

The report wasn't leaked, 'carefully selected excerpts' of the report were handed to somebody at the BBC, somebody who was a staunch remainer

A remainer at the BBC, who'd have thought it

It is irrelevant who leaked it, have you read it?

No more than you have

Well done, have you read the title of the OP?

Yes. You and GS were both wrong. Better luck next time

Of course, denial is probably your only option,

Facts are the only option

The facts are in the report, have a read,"

Can you post a link please, I'd actually be interested

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I get what your saying, but why did people start panic buying? because there sheep and the media said that's my theory

I agree, panic buying mage the situation worse, but the story was based on a ‘leaked report’ so it had some truth behind it

The report wasn't leaked, 'carefully selected excerpts' of the report were handed to somebody at the BBC, somebody who was a staunch remainer

A remainer at the BBC, who'd have thought it

It is irrelevant who leaked it, have you read it?

No more than you have

Well done, have you read the title of the OP?

Yes. You and GS were both wrong. Better luck next time

Of course, denial is probably your only option,

Facts are the only option

The facts are in the report, have a read,

Can you post a link please, I'd actually be interested "

No, try Google

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

I get what your saying, but why did people start panic buying? because there sheep and the media said that's my theory

I agree, panic buying mage the situation worse, but the story was based on a ‘leaked report’ so it had some truth behind it

The report wasn't leaked, 'carefully selected excerpts' of the report were handed to somebody at the BBC, somebody who was a staunch remainer

A remainer at the BBC, who'd have thought it

It is irrelevant who leaked it, have you read it?

No more than you have

Well done, have you read the title of the OP?

Yes. You and GS were both wrong. Better luck next time

Of course, denial is probably your only option,

Facts are the only option

The facts are in the report, have a read,

Can you post a link please, I'd actually be interested

No, try Google "

Thought not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I get what your saying, but why did people start panic buying? because there sheep and the media said that's my theory

I agree, panic buying mage the situation worse, but the story was based on a ‘leaked report’ so it had some truth behind it

The report wasn't leaked, 'carefully selected excerpts' of the report were handed to somebody at the BBC, somebody who was a staunch remainer

A remainer at the BBC, who'd have thought it

It is irrelevant who leaked it, have you read it?

No more than you have

Well done, have you read the title of the OP?

Yes. You and GS were both wrong. Better luck next time

Of course, denial is probably your only option,

Facts are the only option

The facts are in the report, have a read,

Can you post a link please, I'd actually be interested

No, try Google

Thought not"

If you don’t know how to use Google then I am afraid I can’t help.

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

I get what your saying, but why did people start panic buying? because there sheep and the media said that's my theory

I agree, panic buying mage the situation worse, but the story was based on a ‘leaked report’ so it had some truth behind it

The report wasn't leaked, 'carefully selected excerpts' of the report were handed to somebody at the BBC, somebody who was a staunch remainer

A remainer at the BBC, who'd have thought it

It is irrelevant who leaked it, have you read it?

No more than you have

Well done, have you read the title of the OP?

Yes. You and GS were both wrong. Better luck next time

Of course, denial is probably your only option,

Facts are the only option

The facts are in the report, have a read,

Can you post a link please, I'd actually be interested

No, try Google

Thought not

If you don’t know how to use Google then I am afraid I can’t help. "

So you have read the report from that confidential meeting?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I get what your saying, but why did people start panic buying? because there sheep and the media said that's my theory

I agree, panic buying mage the situation worse, but the story was based on a ‘leaked report’ so it had some truth behind it

The report wasn't leaked, 'carefully selected excerpts' of the report were handed to somebody at the BBC, somebody who was a staunch remainer

A remainer at the BBC, who'd have thought it

It is irrelevant who leaked it, have you read it?

No more than you have

Well done, have you read the title of the OP?

Yes. You and GS were both wrong. Better luck next time

Of course, denial is probably your only option,

Facts are the only option

The facts are in the report, have a read,

Can you post a link please, I'd actually be interested

No, try Google

Thought not

If you don’t know how to use Google then I am afraid I can’t help.

So you have read the report from that confidential meeting?"

The leaked parts, have you worked out to use Google?

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

I get what your saying, but why did people start panic buying? because there sheep and the media said that's my theory

I agree, panic buying mage the situation worse, but the story was based on a ‘leaked report’ so it had some truth behind it

The report wasn't leaked, 'carefully selected excerpts' of the report were handed to somebody at the BBC, somebody who was a staunch remainer

A remainer at the BBC, who'd have thought it

It is irrelevant who leaked it, have you read it?

No more than you have

Well done, have you read the title of the OP?

Yes. You and GS were both wrong. Better luck next time

Of course, denial is probably your only option,

Facts are the only option

The facts are in the report, have a read,

Can you post a link please, I'd actually be interested

No, try Google

Thought not

If you don’t know how to use Google then I am afraid I can’t help.

So you have read the report from that confidential meeting?

The leaked parts, have you worked out to use Google? "

Ahh the 'carefully selected excerpts' You could just be honest you know

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I get what your saying, but why did people start panic buying? because there sheep and the media said that's my theory

I agree, panic buying mage the situation worse, but the story was based on a ‘leaked report’ so it had some truth behind it

The report wasn't leaked, 'carefully selected excerpts' of the report were handed to somebody at the BBC, somebody who was a staunch remainer

A remainer at the BBC, who'd have thought it

It is irrelevant who leaked it, have you read it?

No more than you have

Well done, have you read the title of the OP?

Yes. You and GS were both wrong. Better luck next time

Of course, denial is probably your only option,

Facts are the only option

The facts are in the report, have a read,

Can you post a link please, I'd actually be interested

No, try Google

Thought not

If you don’t know how to use Google then I am afraid I can’t help.

So you have read the report from that confidential meeting?

The leaked parts, have you worked out to use Google?

Ahh the 'carefully selected excerpts' You could just be honest you know"

Have a read then get back to me, if don’t know how to use Google try another search engine

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

I get what your saying, but why did people start panic buying? because there sheep and the media said that's my theory

I agree, panic buying mage the situation worse, but the story was based on a ‘leaked report’ so it had some truth behind it

The report wasn't leaked, 'carefully selected excerpts' of the report were handed to somebody at the BBC, somebody who was a staunch remainer

A remainer at the BBC, who'd have thought it

It is irrelevant who leaked it, have you read it?

No more than you have

Well done, have you read the title of the OP?

Yes. You and GS were both wrong. Better luck next time

Of course, denial is probably your only option,

Facts are the only option

The facts are in the report, have a read,

Can you post a link please, I'd actually be interested

No, try Google

Thought not

If you don’t know how to use Google then I am afraid I can’t help.

So you have read the report from that confidential meeting?

The leaked parts, have you worked out to use Google?

Ahh the 'carefully selected excerpts' You could just be honest you know

Have a read then get back to me, if don’t know how to use Google try another search engine "

I think we've got to the truth of what actually happened. If you haven't yet then I can't help you

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By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS
over a year ago

Notts

Have you read the report that the media story was based on? It didn’t mention John breaking his leg "

yeah lacking detail wasnt it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have you read the report that the media story was based on? It didn’t mention John breaking his leg

yeah lacking detail wasnt it

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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago

milton keynes

"Anyone having trouble getting petrol now?

Im not plenty round here so my question is have all those drivers lost to brexit ( who caused it allegedly by some on here ) returned in the last week or so ?

It did seem to finish as quickly as it started. I know the army are good but they must be miracle workers to have sorted it out so quickly. Not sure how many tanker drivers from abroad filled in too but it all helps

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By *rLibertineMan
over a year ago

North Suffolk

"Anyone having trouble getting petrol now?

Im not plenty round here so my question is have all those drivers lost to brexit ( who caused it allegedly by some on here ) returned in the last week or so ?

or maybe the numbers of people panic buying levelled off….

whatever the reasons it just shows (again) the lack of resilience in UK supply chains….

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