FabSwingers.com forum: CF Industries

By *V-Alice OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr

The Government have done the right thing and bailed out this US owned fertiliser business.

Will they also bail out vital UK industries - like steel manufacturers?

Who knows? Anyway, it's good to see more socialism from the Tories - even if, as always, they've been forced into it.

Unless you think bailing out companies, unable to remain viable within a capitalist market system, with public money isn't socialism?

Eventually, capitalism will bring down the cost of gas - by funding more and more renewable energy generation; just not by the end of this winter, eh?

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

They haven't 'bailed it out"!

They are subsidising the gas it needs, so they can restart the two UK plants, in order to get the CO2 that we desperately need.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

"They haven't 'bailed it out"!

They are subsidising the gas it needs, so they can restart the two UK plants, in order to get the CO2 that we desperately need. "

Further to the above, only the Billingham plant is to reopen, until gas costs fall.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Generally the Conservative party is all about socialising the risk, and privatising the profits.

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By *V-Alice OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr

"They haven't 'bailed it out"!

They are subsidising the gas it needs, so they can restart the two UK plants, in order to get the CO2 that we desperately need. "

Ok. Fair enough - a subsidy isn't a bailout. But it's still public money to help out private industry.

Do you think they'll be as generous with this country's steel manufacturers?

Do you think they should be?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"They haven't 'bailed it out"!

They are subsidising the gas it needs, so they can restart the two UK plants, in order to get the CO2 that we desperately need.

Ok. Fair enough - a subsidy isn't a bailout. But it's still public money to help out private industry.

Do you think they'll be as generous with this country's steel manufacturers?

Do you think they should be?"
I think a government should do whatever is in the countries interest thats what they are put in power to do,dont you?

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By *V-Alice OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr

"They haven't 'bailed it out"!

They are subsidising the gas it needs, so they can restart the two UK plants, in order to get the CO2 that we desperately need.

Ok. Fair enough - a subsidy isn't a bailout. But it's still public money to help out private industry.

Do you think they'll be as generous with this country's steel manufacturers?

Do you think they should be? I think a government should do whatever is in the countries interest thats what they are put in power to do,dont you?"

I do. And, since Covid, this Government has adopted a lot of the socialist solutions to the needs of the problems facing the UK.

Like you, I am in favour of that. Unlike you, I think they could do better.

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"Generally the Conservative party is all about socialising the risk, and privatising the profits."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Generally the Conservative party is all about socialising the risk, and privatising the profits.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" I think a government should do whatever is in the countries interest thats what they are put in power to do,dont you?"

Well it should, but seems to be doing what's in the tory members and chums interests.

It's like count dracula ending up in charge of the blood transfusion service

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

"I think a government should do whatever is in the countries interest thats what they are put in power to do,dont you?"

it's been 11 years with the situation worsening under successive tory governments and with so many idealogical turkeys perpetually voting for christmas there is still no indication of that happening anytime soon.

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By *uddy laneMan
over a year ago

dudley

A foreign company holding the UK to ransom. Great

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford

"I think a government should do whatever is in the countries interest thats what they are put in power to do,dont you?

Turkeys with a choice between voting for Christmas or the alternative offering of Corbyn Labour which would be like being shot in both knees, both elbows and the stomach before being left to die from gangrene... we need a strong and credible political opposition, there isn’t one!

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford

It’s only 3 weeks funding... then what? Gas price only going one way... like always Borris is kicking the can down the road

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

There are other considerations.

The C02 plant in Hull, owned by Yara, comes off maintenence very soon, so that will help with supply.

CF supply around 60% of our C02 needs.

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