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"So after getting racially abused on twitter and else where the gmnt have condemned the abuse. However considering this same gmnt has been found guilty of islamphobia and its leader has said some rather insensitive things in the past ,its been met with a healthy dose of cynicism. Indeed tyrone mings has called out that lovely ms patel on her hypocrisy over the 'tough on immigration stance Btw if anyone wants to discuss a former labour leader its probs best to start your own thread as we know how anti whataboutery everyone is on here "So the only people who are racist are those on the right, funny I thought all racists were bad, apparently not | |||
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"So after getting racially abused on twitter and else where the gmnt have condemned the abuse. However considering this same gmnt has been found guilty of islamphobia and its leader has said some rather insensitive things in the past ,its been met with a healthy dose of cynicism. Indeed tyrone mings has called out that lovely ms patel on her hypocrisy over the 'tough on immigration stance Btw if anyone wants to discuss a former labour leader its probs best to start your own thread as we know how anti whataboutery everyone is on here
So the only people who are racist are those on the right, funny I thought all racists were bad, apparently not "Who said that ? | |||
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"So after getting racially abused on twitter and else where the gmnt have condemned the abuse. However considering this same gmnt has been found guilty of islamphobia and its leader has said some rather insensitive things in the past ,its been met with a healthy dose of cynicism. Indeed tyrone mings has called out that lovely ms patel on her hypocrisy over the 'tough on immigration stance Btw if anyone wants to discuss a former labour leader its probs best to start your own thread as we know how anti whataboutery everyone is on here
So the only people who are racist are those on the right, funny I thought all racists were bad, apparently not
Who said that ? "Read the other thread, its patently obvious it's a political slant, of course deflection is rampant, it's hilarious that several on here are digging themselves ever deeper. Will return in the morning to see if they've reached Oz | |||
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"What point are you trying to make? Who?" You! | |||
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"What point are you trying to make? Who? You! " I would have thought it perfectly obvious. A pm who has made racist comment and a home secretary who wants to get tough on immigration are just the sort of people qualified on giving out lectures in tolerance. | |||
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"A thread begins about racism directed at English players. There is almost universal condemnations until 'left wing racists is brought up. The valid point is made that a racist is a racist. 3 guesses who are the guilty party in deflecting the thread "No. I’m lost here. What is ‘a racist’? | |||
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"A thread begins about racism directed at English players. There is almost universal condemnations until 'left wing racists is brought up. The valid point is made that a racist is a racist. 3 guesses who are the guilty party in deflecting the thread
No. I’m lost here. What is ‘a racist’? "I suggest you read the other thread | |||
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"So after getting racially abused on twitter and else where the gmnt have condemned the abuse. However considering this same gmnt has been found guilty of islamphobia and its leader has said some rather insensitive things in the past ,its been met with a healthy dose of cynicism. Indeed tyrone mings has called out that lovely ms patel on her hypocrisy over the 'tough on immigration stance Btw if anyone wants to discuss a former labour leader its probs best to start your own thread as we know how anti whataboutery everyone is on here
So the only people who are racist are those on the right, funny I thought all racists were bad, apparently not
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Read the other thread, its patently obvious it's a political slant, of course deflection is rampant, it's hilarious that several on here are digging themselves ever deeper. Will return in the morning to see if they've reached Oz"Who said that only racists were on the right ? | |||
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"A thread begins about racism directed at English players. There is almost universal condemnations until 'left wing racists is brought up. The valid point is made that a racist is a racist. 3 guesses who are the guilty party in deflecting the thread
No. I’m lost here. What is ‘a racist’? "Someone who disagrees with a leftist. | |||
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"A thread begins about racism directed at English players. There is almost universal condemnations until 'left wing racists is brought up. The valid point is made that a racist is a racist. 3 guesses who are the guilty party in deflecting the thread
No. I’m lost here. What is ‘a racist’?
Someone who disagrees with a leftist."Right..who has said that again? | |||
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"Not sure why you would bring the new immigration plan as being racist. It is skill based. Projections say that it will make it easy for Asians to move here than in the past. Europeans don't have advantage over others anymore. If you are talking about refugees, it's more an economic stand than a racist stand." Tyrone mings begs to differ. | |||
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"Not sure why you would bring the new immigration plan as being racist. It is skill based. Projections say that it will make it easy for Asians to move here than in the past. Europeans don't have advantage over others anymore. If you are talking about refugees, it's more an economic stand than a racist stand. Tyrone mings begs to differ." So what? | |||
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"Not sure why you would bring the new immigration plan as being racist. It is skill based. Projections say that it will make it easy for Asians to move here than in the past. Europeans don't have advantage over others anymore. If you are talking about refugees, it's more an economic stand than a racist stand. Tyrone mings begs to differ. So what?" Good point | |||
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"Not sure why you would bring the new immigration plan as being racist. It is skill based. Projections say that it will make it easy for Asians to move here than in the past. Europeans don't have advantage over others anymore. If you are talking about refugees, it's more an economic stand than a racist stand. Tyrone mings begs to differ. So what? Good point "What does Tyrone Ming's tweet have anything to do with what I said? | |||
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"So after getting racially abused on twitter and else where the gmnt have condemned the abuse. However considering this same gmnt has been found guilty of islamphobia and its leader has said some rather insensitive things in the past ,its been met with a healthy dose of cynicism. Indeed tyrone mings has called out that lovely ms patel on her hypocrisy over the 'tough on immigration stance Btw if anyone wants to discuss a former labour leader its probs best to start your own thread as we know how anti whataboutery everyone is on here "Racism is always wrong regardless of who is doing it. No matter if its Boris and co or the person we are not to mention. From Prince to pauper. UK or abroad its just wrong | |||
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"Well seeing as he plays with the people who have been racially abused, id personally say his words carry some weight." Still doesn't answer my question. I was taking about your quote on immigration plan being racist. | |||
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"Well seeing as he plays with the people who have been racially abused, id personally say his words carry some weight. Still doesn't answer my question. I was taking about your quote on immigration plan being racist." It's rather simple. When you have a home secretary who discusses putting ayslum seekers on an island,when you have the likes of the rag and the mail,printing lies about immigrants on a daily basis, maybe, just maybe mind,the less enlightened members of our society, perhaps those not well versed in economic policy,may see this as justification for not being particularly tolerant to people of colour? | |||
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"Well seeing as he plays with the people who have been racially abused, id personally say his words carry some weight. Still doesn't answer my question. I was taking about your quote on immigration plan being racist. It's rather simple. When you have a home secretary who discusses putting ayslum seekers on an island,when you have the likes of the rag and the mail,printing lies about immigrants on a daily basis, maybe, just maybe mind,the less enlightened members of our society, perhaps those not well versed in economic policy,may see this as justification for not being particularly tolerant to people of colour?" Not really. As a home secretary, her job is to handle these issues. When the country has already seen a rise in debt thanks to covid, how many refugees can they fund for and where is that money going to come from? What else could she do? Borrow and spend just because some idiots in the country might get the wrong message? | |||
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"Well seeing as he plays with the people who have been racially abused, id personally say his words carry some weight. Still doesn't answer my question. I was taking about your quote on immigration plan being racist. It's rather simple. When you have a home secretary who discusses putting ayslum seekers on an island,when you have the likes of the rag and the mail,printing lies about immigrants on a daily basis, maybe, just maybe mind,the less enlightened members of our society, perhaps those not well versed in economic policy,may see this as justification for not being particularly tolerant to people of colour? Not really. As a home secretary, her job is to handle these issues. When the country has already seen a rise in debt thanks to covid, how many refugees can they fund for and where is that money going to come from? What else could she do? Borrow and spend just because some idiots in the country might get the wrong message?" If you cant see a connection with that policy,or indeed a load of policies over the last few years,and a spike in racism,I really cant help you. | |||
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"Well seeing as he plays with the people who have been racially abused, id personally say his words carry some weight. Still doesn't answer my question. I was taking about your quote on immigration plan being racist. It's rather simple. When you have a home secretary who discusses putting ayslum seekers on an island,when you have the likes of the rag and the mail,printing lies about immigrants on a daily basis, maybe, just maybe mind,the less enlightened members of our society, perhaps those not well versed in economic policy,may see this as justification for not being particularly tolerant to people of colour? Not really. As a home secretary, her job is to handle these issues. When the country has already seen a rise in debt thanks to covid, how many refugees can they fund for and where is that money going to come from? What else could she do? Borrow and spend just because some idiots in the country might get the wrong message? If you cant see a connection with that policy,or indeed a load of policies over the last few years,and a spike in racism,I really cant help you." There is nothing that proves connection. This has been the stance of most countries around the world. And again, there is nothing that she could do about asylum seekers, given the debt that the country is already in. | |||
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"A thread begins about racism directed at English players. There is almost universal condemnations until 'left wing racists is brought up. The valid point is made that a racist is a racist. 3 guesses who are the guilty party in deflecting the thread "Can you point out one person who hasn't condemned racism , you havent once ever condemned corbyn for his racist views, excuse after excuse, still you will soon come out in Oz keep digging. | |||
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"Not sure why you would bring the new immigration plan as being racist. It is skill based. Projections say that it will make it easy for Asians to move here than in the past. Europeans don't have advantage over others anymore. If you are talking about refugees, it's more an economic stand than a racist stand. Tyrone mings begs to differ." Can you point me to where Tyrone Mings begs to differ re. immigration policy. I know what he said yesterday about Patel and that is his right, but I cant see he says anything about the UKs I.migration policy. | |||
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"So after getting racially abused on twitter and else where the gmnt have condemned the abuse. However considering this same gmnt has been found guilty of islamphobia and its leader has said some rather insensitive things in the past ,its been met with a healthy dose of cynicism. Indeed tyrone mings has called out that lovely ms patel on her hypocrisy over the 'tough on immigration stance Btw if anyone wants to discuss a former labour leader its probs best to start your own thread as we know how anti whataboutery everyone is on here
So the only people who are racist are those on the right, funny I thought all racists were bad, apparently not
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"Well seeing as he plays with the people who have been racially abused, id personally say his words carry some weight. Still doesn't answer my question. I was taking about your quote on immigration plan being racist. It's rather simple. When you have a home secretary who discusses putting ayslum seekers on an island,when you have the likes of the rag and the mail,printing lies about immigrants on a daily basis, maybe, just maybe mind,the less enlightened members of our society, perhaps those not well versed in economic policy,may see this as justification for not being particularly tolerant to people of colour?" Would you say that the eu is racist then with their immigration policy? The eu makes it easy for Europeans to live in any country in Europe but hold immigrants in camps outside the eu, as the majority of eu citizens are white i would call that racist.The governments new policy will make it easier for people from black and asian countries to work here rather than just letting the white privilege europeans in because of where they came from. You love to bang on about the government being racist but they have the most diverse cabinet there has ever been in the uk and increased their ethnic minority vote substantially at the last election. | |||
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"What point are you trying to make? Who? You! I would have thought it perfectly obvious. A pm who has made racist comment and a home secretary who wants to get tough on immigration are just the sort of people qualified on giving out lectures in tolerance."
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"Well seeing as he plays with the people who have been racially abused, id personally say his words carry some weight. Still doesn't answer my question. I was taking about your quote on immigration plan being racist. It's rather simple. When you have a home secretary who discusses putting ayslum seekers on an island,when you have the likes of the rag and the mail,printing lies about immigrants on a daily basis, maybe, just maybe mind,the less enlightened members of our society, perhaps those not well versed in economic policy,may see this as justification for not being particularly tolerant to people of colour?" so you are saying the U.K. immigration policy is racist ? | |||
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"Not sure why you would bring the new immigration plan as being racist. It is skill based. Projections say that it will make it easy for Asians to move here than in the past. Europeans don't have advantage over others anymore. If you are talking about refugees, it's more an economic stand than a racist stand. Tyrone mings begs to differ. Can you point me to where Tyrone Mings begs to differ re. immigration policy. I know what he said yesterday about Patel and that is his right, but I cant see he says anything about the UKs I.migration policy." You are right He was talking about their hypocrisy over being opposed to taking the knee | |||
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"Well seeing as he plays with the people who have been racially abused, id personally say his words carry some weight. Still doesn't answer my question. I was taking about your quote on immigration plan being racist. It's rather simple. When you have a home secretary who discusses putting ayslum seekers on an island,when you have the likes of the rag and the mail,printing lies about immigrants on a daily basis, maybe, just maybe mind,the less enlightened members of our society, perhaps those not well versed in economic policy,may see this as justification for not being particularly tolerant to people of colour?Would you say that the eu is racist then with their immigration policy? The eu makes it easy for Europeans to live in any country in Europe but hold immigrants in camps outside the eu, as the majority of eu citizens are white i would call that racist.The governments new policy will make it easier for people from black and asian countries to work here rather than just letting the white privilege europeans in because of where they came from. You love to bang on about the government being racist but they have the most diverse cabinet there has ever been in the uk and increased their ethnic minority vote substantially at the last election. " | |||
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"Well seeing as he plays with the people who have been racially abused, id personally say his words carry some weight. Still doesn't answer my question. I was taking about your quote on immigration plan being racist. It's rather simple. When you have a home secretary who discusses putting ayslum seekers on an island,when you have the likes of the rag and the mail,printing lies about immigrants on a daily basis, maybe, just maybe mind,the less enlightened members of our society, perhaps those not well versed in economic policy,may see this as justification for not being particularly tolerant to people of colour? Not really. As a home secretary, her job is to handle these issues. When the country has already seen a rise in debt thanks to covid, how many refugees can they fund for and where is that money going to come from? What else could she do? Borrow and spend just because some idiots in the country might get the wrong message? If you cant see a connection with that policy,or indeed a load of policies over the last few years,and a spike in racism,I really cant help you. There is nothing that proves connection. This has been the stance of most countries around the world. And again, there is nothing that she could do about asylum seekers, given the debt that the country is already in." What are your views on her wanting to stick a load of ayslum seekers on an island? | |||
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"Well seeing as he plays with the people who have been racially abused, id personally say his words carry some weight. Still doesn't answer my question. I was taking about your quote on immigration plan being racist. It's rather simple. When you have a home secretary who discusses putting ayslum seekers on an island,when you have the likes of the rag and the mail,printing lies about immigrants on a daily basis, maybe, just maybe mind,the less enlightened members of our society, perhaps those not well versed in economic policy,may see this as justification for not being particularly tolerant to people of colour? Not really. As a home secretary, her job is to handle these issues. When the country has already seen a rise in debt thanks to covid, how many refugees can they fund for and where is that money going to come from? What else could she do? Borrow and spend just because some idiots in the country might get the wrong message? If you cant see a connection with that policy,or indeed a load of policies over the last few years,and a spike in racism,I really cant help you. There is nothing that proves connection. This has been the stance of most countries around the world. And again, there is nothing that she could do about asylum seekers, given the debt that the country is already in. What are your views on her wanting to stick a load of ayslum seekers on an island?" Where would you put them Lionel? | |||
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"Well seeing as he plays with the people who have been racially abused, id personally say his words carry some weight. Still doesn't answer my question. I was taking about your quote on immigration plan being racist. It's rather simple. When you have a home secretary who discusses putting ayslum seekers on an island,when you have the likes of the rag and the mail,printing lies about immigrants on a daily basis, maybe, just maybe mind,the less enlightened members of our society, perhaps those not well versed in economic policy,may see this as justification for not being particularly tolerant to people of colour? Not really. As a home secretary, her job is to handle these issues. When the country has already seen a rise in debt thanks to covid, how many refugees can they fund for and where is that money going to come from? What else could she do? Borrow and spend just because some idiots in the country might get the wrong message? If you cant see a connection with that policy,or indeed a load of policies over the last few years,and a spike in racism,I really cant help you. There is nothing that proves connection. This has been the stance of most countries around the world. And again, there is nothing that she could do about asylum seekers, given the debt that the country is already in. What are your views on her wanting to stick a load of ayslum seekers on an island? Where would you put them Lionel? " Is that at answer? I'll give it 1 more go. What are your thoughts on sticking a load of ayslum seekers on an island? | |||
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"However I'm aware we are veering off topic here . So a simple question. Do the actions of the gmnt ie immigration policy, legitimise racists or are the 2 completely separate issues?" Two completely different issues. No country can just allow everyone to get in without making sure that her own economy can handle the influx. Racists cannot use that as an excuse to be racist. | |||
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"Well seeing as he plays with the people who have been racially abused, id personally say his words carry some weight. Still doesn't answer my question. I was taking about your quote on immigration plan being racist. It's rather simple. When you have a home secretary who discusses putting ayslum seekers on an island,when you have the likes of the rag and the mail,printing lies about immigrants on a daily basis, maybe, just maybe mind,the less enlightened members of our society, perhaps those not well versed in economic policy,may see this as justification for not being particularly tolerant to people of colour? Not really. As a home secretary, her job is to handle these issues. When the country has already seen a rise in debt thanks to covid, how many refugees can they fund for and where is that money going to come from? What else could she do? Borrow and spend just because some idiots in the country might get the wrong message? If you cant see a connection with that policy,or indeed a load of policies over the last few years,and a spike in racism,I really cant help you. There is nothing that proves connection. This has been the stance of most countries around the world. And again, there is nothing that she could do about asylum seekers, given the debt that the country is already in. What are your views on her wanting to stick a load of ayslum seekers on an island? Where would you put them Lionel? Is that at answer? I'll give it 1 more go. What are your thoughts on sticking a load of ayslum seekers on an island?" He asked a valid question. Do you have a better idea? If you have, do tell us and also let us know where you get the money for that. | |||
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"However I'm aware we are veering off topic here . So a simple question. Do the actions of the gmnt ie immigration policy, legitimise racists or are the 2 completely separate issues? Two completely different issues. No country can just allow everyone to get in without making sure that her own economy can handle the influx. Racists cannot use that as an excuse to be racist." So you would say that a gmnts immigration policy or its opposition to taking the knee,has no relevance at all to giving racists legitimacy, in their heads? | |||
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"Well seeing as he plays with the people who have been racially abused, id personally say his words carry some weight. Still doesn't answer my question. I was taking about your quote on immigration plan being racist. It's rather simple. When you have a home secretary who discusses putting ayslum seekers on an island,when you have the likes of the rag and the mail,printing lies about immigrants on a daily basis, maybe, just maybe mind,the less enlightened members of our society, perhaps those not well versed in economic policy,may see this as justification for not being particularly tolerant to people of colour? Not really. As a home secretary, her job is to handle these issues. When the country has already seen a rise in debt thanks to covid, how many refugees can they fund for and where is that money going to come from? What else could she do? Borrow and spend just because some idiots in the country might get the wrong message? If you cant see a connection with that policy,or indeed a load of policies over the last few years,and a spike in racism,I really cant help you. There is nothing that proves connection. This has been the stance of most countries around the world. And again, there is nothing that she could do about asylum seekers, given the debt that the country is already in. What are your views on her wanting to stick a load of ayslum seekers on an island? Where would you put them Lionel? Is that at answer? I'll give it 1 more go. What are your thoughts on sticking a load of ayslum seekers on an island? He asked a valid question. Do you have a better idea? If you have, do tell us and also let us know where you get the money for that." I asked a question I got a question back. | |||
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"However I'm aware we are veering off topic here . So a simple question. Do the actions of the gmnt ie immigration policy, legitimise racists or are the 2 completely separate issues? Two completely different issues. No country can just allow everyone to get in without making sure that her own economy can handle the influx. Racists cannot use that as an excuse to be racist. So you would say that a gmnts immigration policy or its opposition to taking the knee,has no relevance at all to giving racists legitimacy, in their heads?" Immigration policy? No. Stance against taking the knee. Maybe. | |||
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"Well seeing as he plays with the people who have been racially abused, id personally say his words carry some weight. Still doesn't answer my question. I was taking about your quote on immigration plan being racist. It's rather simple. When you have a home secretary who discusses putting ayslum seekers on an island,when you have the likes of the rag and the mail,printing lies about immigrants on a daily basis, maybe, just maybe mind,the less enlightened members of our society, perhaps those not well versed in economic policy,may see this as justification for not being particularly tolerant to people of colour? Not really. As a home secretary, her job is to handle these issues. When the country has already seen a rise in debt thanks to covid, how many refugees can they fund for and where is that money going to come from? What else could she do? Borrow and spend just because some idiots in the country might get the wrong message? If you cant see a connection with that policy,or indeed a load of policies over the last few years,and a spike in racism,I really cant help you. There is nothing that proves connection. This has been the stance of most countries around the world. And again, there is nothing that she could do about asylum seekers, given the debt that the country is already in. What are your views on her wanting to stick a load of ayslum seekers on an island? Where would you put them Lionel? Is that at answer? I'll give it 1 more go. What are your thoughts on sticking a load of ayslum seekers on an island? He asked a valid question. Do you have a better idea? If you have, do tell us and also let us know where you get the money for that." The EU is actively perusing a policy of outsourcing migrant processing to countries outside of the EU. I've seen a budget of €8 billion set aside for this. Greece is rapidly losing patience with its migrant crisis, snd Lithuania is being swamped, with migrants encouraged to transit via Belarus. | |||
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"Well seeing as he plays with the people who have been racially abused, id personally say his words carry some weight. Still doesn't answer my question. I was taking about your quote on immigration plan being racist. It's rather simple. When you have a home secretary who discusses putting ayslum seekers on an island,when you have the likes of the rag and the mail,printing lies about immigrants on a daily basis, maybe, just maybe mind,the less enlightened members of our society, perhaps those not well versed in economic policy,may see this as justification for not being particularly tolerant to people of colour? Not really. As a home secretary, her job is to handle these issues. When the country has already seen a rise in debt thanks to covid, how many refugees can they fund for and where is that money going to come from? What else could she do? Borrow and spend just because some idiots in the country might get the wrong message? If you cant see a connection with that policy,or indeed a load of policies over the last few years,and a spike in racism,I really cant help you. There is nothing that proves connection. This has been the stance of most countries around the world. And again, there is nothing that she could do about asylum seekers, given the debt that the country is already in. What are your views on her wanting to stick a load of ayslum seekers on an island? Where would you put them Lionel? Is that at answer? I'll give it 1 more go. What are your thoughts on sticking a load of ayslum seekers on an island? He asked a valid question. Do you have a better idea? If you have, do tell us and also let us know where you get the money for that. I asked a question I got a question back. " The answer to your question lies in my question. You know that and are beating around the bush. Anyway, I will explain it to you. If the government doesn't have money or facilities to keep them elsewhere, keeping them in island is fine. | |||
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"Well seeing as he plays with the people who have been racially abused, id personally say his words carry some weight. Still doesn't answer my question. I was taking about your quote on immigration plan being racist. It's rather simple. When you have a home secretary who discusses putting ayslum seekers on an island,when you have the likes of the rag and the mail,printing lies about immigrants on a daily basis, maybe, just maybe mind,the less enlightened members of our society, perhaps those not well versed in economic policy,may see this as justification for not being particularly tolerant to people of colour? Not really. As a home secretary, her job is to handle these issues. When the country has already seen a rise in debt thanks to covid, how many refugees can they fund for and where is that money going to come from? What else could she do? Borrow and spend just because some idiots in the country might get the wrong message? If you cant see a connection with that policy,or indeed a load of policies over the last few years,and a spike in racism,I really cant help you. There is nothing that proves connection. This has been the stance of most countries around the world. And again, there is nothing that she could do about asylum seekers, given the debt that the country is already in. What are your views on her wanting to stick a load of ayslum seekers on an island? Where would you put them Lionel? Is that at answer? I'll give it 1 more go. What are your thoughts on sticking a load of ayslum seekers on an island?" We all know it won’t happen. | |||
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" Not really. As a home secretary, her job is to handle these issues. When the country has already seen a rise in debt thanks to covid, how many refugees can they fund for and where is that money going to come from? What else could she do? Borrow and spend just because some idiots in the country might get the wrong message? If you cant see a connection with that policy,or indeed a load of policies over the last few years,and a spike in racism,I really cant help you. There is nothing that proves connection. This has been the stance of most countries around the world. And again, there is nothing that she could do about asylum seekers, given the debt that the country is already in. What are your views on her wanting to stick a load of ayslum seekers on an island? Where would you put them Lionel? Is that at answer? I'll give it 1 more go. What are your thoughts on sticking a load of ayslum seekers on an island? He asked a valid question. Do you have a better idea? If you have, do tell us and also let us know where you get the money for that. I asked a question I got a question back. The answer to your question lies in my question. You know that and are beating around the bush. Anyway, I will explain it to you. If the government doesn't have money or facilities to keep them elsewhere, keeping them in island is fine. Like I said before I think getting into a discussion about immigration policy is going off track. I used it as an example of why racists may be given legitimacy by the gmnt. When you hear Cameron talk of a 'sworm 'of immigrants or Patel wanting to send boats out to stop migrants coming here,racists may think.yes they are on our side. You obviously disagree." That's the problem with the racists, not with the government. Every government tries to protect its borders. There are countries which would shoot people who try to cross the border. If people in countries legitimise racism because a government is trying to make immigration process streamlined, the problem is not with the government. The government is just trying to do its job. Tyrone's comment about taking the knee is correct. That's because the government doesn't have to take a stance in this matter at all. Priti Patel made a mistake by taking a stance against it. She could have just remained silent even if she personally didn't believe in taking the knee. But immigration policy changes are not mistakes. It's her job. | |||
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"Reminds me of a story in India. A popular actor was known for the style in which he holds cigarettes in his movies. Many youngsters adored him and followed his style. People started complaining about it and tried to force him to stop smoking in his movies. Is that really the actor's fault that people are smoking by seeing him? He was just doing his job. Just like that, controlling immigration is a government's job. You can't blame them for people becoming racist." Are you going to answer the jo Cox example? And no one is saying they are making people racist. What I am saying is racists are looking at a gmnt which clamps down on immigration, along with the daily bullshit in the mail,and they are saying..they believe what I do. | |||
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"Reminds me of a story in India. A popular actor was known for the style in which he holds cigarettes in his movies. Many youngsters adored him and followed his style. People started complaining about it and tried to force him to stop smoking in his movies. Is that really the actor's fault that people are smoking by seeing him? He was just doing his job. Just like that, controlling immigration is a government's job. You can't blame them for people becoming racist. Are you going to answer the jo Cox example? And no one is saying they are making people racist. What I am saying is racists are looking at a gmnt which clamps down on immigration, along with the daily bullshit in the mail,and they are saying..they believe what I do. Come on Lionel, you started this thread with 'Don't talk about Corbyn' and now you wanna bring Farage into it. Farage isn't in government just as Corbyn isn't so let's leave them both out of it as you first wished. I'm making the argument that gmnt policy on immigration gives legitimacy to racists. Farages stance on immigration was very much took up by the gmnt." No, what you are doing is constantly adapting your argument but cry when others do it to you. At the very least, no one can accuse you of not having any consistency | |||
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And where exactly has farage or UKIP ever said England for the English?"There are many far right groups in the UK that do say England for the English such as national action Do you not think calling parties or supports of parties that aren't at all racist racists pushes people to those groups that genuinely are racist? Making yourself part of the problem | |||
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The murder also happened when I was taking a dump. I guess that's also related because of butterfly effect.
Firstly, I thought liberals were supposed to be scientific and know the difference between correlation and causation. If you want to claim a connection between two events, the burden of evidence is on you. Just saying that it happened around the same time means nothing.
Secondly, as pointed out, you are the one who strays away from the topic in every post. Moving from immigration policy to taking the knee to daily mail. Now you moved from Tories to Farage when you warned everyone else not to bring in Corbyn in the first post. Maybe get your own act together and follow the rules that you set first before preaching others?"So what you are saying is.the rise of ukip and the brexit party,and their stance on immigration, is a completely different issue to the Tories taking a harder line on immigration. They have no connection whatsoever,? | |||
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And where exactly has farage or UKIP ever said England for the English?
There are many far right groups in the UK that do say England for the English such as national action
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And where exactly has farage or UKIP ever said England for the English?
There are many far right groups in the UK that do say England for the English such as national action
Do you not think calling parties or supports of parties that aren't at all racist racists pushes people to those groups that genuinely are racist? Making yourself part of the problem"And again to clarify. The person who launched a poster which was reported to the police for inciting racial hatred is not a problem. But if I suggest he is a racist,I am? Have I got that right ? | |||
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"However I'm aware we are veering off topic here . So a simple question. Do the actions of the gmnt ie immigration policy, legitimise racists or are the 2 completely separate issues? No. And two completely unrelated issues. Ok So I'll ask again When that nut job stabbed jo Cox? That was absolutely nothing to do with the rhetoric of Farage and co? Lionel, you are better than that. ‘Nut job’, not very PC. You can’t legislate for everyone either with a cause, a grudge, or a mental health issue. If so, and of course in a Perfect world, the Manchester Arena horror and others wouldn’t have happened. I keep feeling the need to remind myself and quote from the best Liverpool cultural export ever, “All you need is love”, and “give peace a chance”. Is Farage a racist? The problem here is that the word racist and racism is thrown around for anything and everything that isn't racist, which in turn changes peoples views into hardline racism because if they're going to be called racist anyway, what does it matter? Farage is a civic nationalist, how can farage influence someone to stab an unknown politician? That's rediculous Right. So it was an utter coincidence that when UKIP was talking about stopping uncontrolled immigration a far right activist stabbed a labour mp saying engkand for the english? Gotcha
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"However I'm aware we are veering off topic here . So a simple question. Do the actions of the gmnt ie immigration policy, legitimise racists or are the 2 completely separate issues? No. And two completely unrelated issues. Ok So I'll ask again When that nut job stabbed jo Cox? That was absolutely nothing to do with the rhetoric of Farage and co? Lionel, you are better than that. ‘Nut job’, not very PC. You can’t legislate for everyone either with a cause, a grudge, or a mental health issue. If so, and of course in a Perfect world, the Manchester Arena horror and others wouldn’t have happened. I keep feeling the need to remind myself and quote from the best Liverpool cultural export ever, “All you need is love”, and “give peace a chance”. Is Farage a racist? The problem here is that the word racist and racism is thrown around for anything and everything that isn't racist, which in turn changes peoples views into hardline racism because if they're going to be called racist anyway, what does it matter? Farage is a civic nationalist, how can farage influence someone to stab an unknown politician? That's rediculous Right. So it was an utter coincidence that when UKIP was talking about stopping uncontrolled immigration a far right activist stabbed a labour mp saying engkand for the english? Gotcha
And where exactly has farage or UKIP ever said England for the English?
There are many far right groups in the UK that do say England for the English such as national action
Do you not think calling parties or supports of parties that aren't at all racist racists pushes people to those groups that genuinely are racist? Making yourself part of the problem
And again to clarify.
The person who launched a poster which was reported to the police for inciting racial hatred is not a problem.
But if I suggest he is a racist,I am?
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"However I'm aware we are veering off topic here . So a simple question. Do the actions of the gmnt ie immigration policy, legitimise racists or are the 2 completely separate issues? No. And two completely unrelated issues. Ok So I'll ask again When that nut job stabbed jo Cox? That was absolutely nothing to do with the rhetoric of Farage and co? Lionel, you are better than that. ‘Nut job’, not very PC. You can’t legislate for everyone either with a cause, a grudge, or a mental health issue. If so, and of course in a Perfect world, the Manchester Arena horror and others wouldn’t have happened. I keep feeling the need to remind myself and quote from the best Liverpool cultural export ever, “All you need is love”, and “give peace a chance”. Is Farage a racist? The problem here is that the word racist and racism is thrown around for anything and everything that isn't racist, which in turn changes peoples views into hardline racism because if they're going to be called racist anyway, what does it matter? Farage is a civic nationalist, how can farage influence someone to stab an unknown politician? That's rediculous Right. So it was an utter coincidence that when UKIP was talking about stopping uncontrolled immigration a far right activist stabbed a labour mp saying engkand for the english? Gotcha
And where exactly has farage or UKIP ever said England for the English?
There are many far right groups in the UK that do say England for the English such as national action
Do you not think calling parties or supports of parties that aren't at all racist racists pushes people to those groups that genuinely are racist? Making yourself part of the problem
And again to clarify.
The person who launched a poster which was reported to the police for inciting racial hatred is not a problem.
But if I suggest he is a racist,I am?
Have I got that right ?
Was Farage charged over that poster?"Did I say he was. I said he was reported. But he will be glad to know he still has people fully behind him | |||
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"However I'm aware we are veering off topic here . So a simple question. Do the actions of the gmnt ie immigration policy, legitimise racists or are the 2 completely separate issues? No. And two completely unrelated issues. Ok So I'll ask again When that nut job stabbed jo Cox? That was absolutely nothing to do with the rhetoric of Farage and co? Lionel, you are better than that. ‘Nut job’, not very PC. You can’t legislate for everyone either with a cause, a grudge, or a mental health issue. If so, and of course in a Perfect world, the Manchester Arena horror and others wouldn’t have happened. I keep feeling the need to remind myself and quote from the best Liverpool cultural export ever, “All you need is love”, and “give peace a chance”. Is Farage a racist? The problem here is that the word racist and racism is thrown around for anything and everything that isn't racist, which in turn changes peoples views into hardline racism because if they're going to be called racist anyway, what does it matter? Farage is a civic nationalist, how can farage influence someone to stab an unknown politician? That's rediculous Right. So it was an utter coincidence that when UKIP was talking about stopping uncontrolled immigration a far right activist stabbed a labour mp saying engkand for the english? Gotcha
And where exactly has farage or UKIP ever said England for the English?
There are many far right groups in the UK that do say England for the English such as national action
Do you not think calling parties or supports of parties that aren't at all racist racists pushes people to those groups that genuinely are racist? Making yourself part of the problem
And again to clarify.
The person who launched a poster which was reported to the police for inciting racial hatred is not a problem.
But if I suggest he is a racist,I am?
Have I got that right ?
Was Farage charged over that poster?
Did I say he was.
I said he was reported.
But he will be glad to know he still has people fully behind him
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"However I'm aware we are veering off topic here . So a simple question. Do the actions of the gmnt ie immigration policy, legitimise racists or are the 2 completely separate issues? No. And two completely unrelated issues. Ok So I'll ask again When that nut job stabbed jo Cox? That was absolutely nothing to do with the rhetoric of Farage and co? Lionel, you are better than that. ‘Nut job’, not very PC. You can’t legislate for everyone either with a cause, a grudge, or a mental health issue. If so, and of course in a Perfect world, the Manchester Arena horror and others wouldn’t have happened. I keep feeling the need to remind myself and quote from the best Liverpool cultural export ever, “All you need is love”, and “give peace a chance”. Is Farage a racist? The problem here is that the word racist and racism is thrown around for anything and everything that isn't racist, which in turn changes peoples views into hardline racism because if they're going to be called racist anyway, what does it matter? Farage is a civic nationalist, how can farage influence someone to stab an unknown politician? That's rediculous Right. So it was an utter coincidence that when UKIP was talking about stopping uncontrolled immigration a far right activist stabbed a labour mp saying engkand for the english? Gotcha
And where exactly has farage or UKIP ever said England for the English?
There are many far right groups in the UK that do say England for the English such as national action
Do you not think calling parties or supports of parties that aren't at all racist racists pushes people to those groups that genuinely are racist? Making yourself part of the problem
And again to clarify.
The person who launched a poster which was reported to the police for inciting racial hatred is not a problem.
But if I suggest he is a racist,I am?
Have I got that right ?
Was Farage charged over that poster?
Did I say he was.
I said he was reported.
But he will be glad to know he still has people fully behind him
I asked because I didn't know if a charge was ever brought...
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And where exactly has farage or UKIP ever said England for the English?
There are many far right groups in the UK that do say England for the English such as national action
Do you not think calling parties or supports of parties that aren't at all racist racists pushes people to those groups that genuinely are racist? Making yourself part of the problem
And again to clarify.
The person who launched a poster which was reported to the police for inciting racial hatred is not a problem.
But if I suggest he is a racist,I am?
Have I got that right ?
Was Farage charged over that poster?
Did I say he was.
I said he was reported.
But he will be glad to know he still has people fully behind him
I asked because I didn't know if a charge was ever brought...
If I report you to the police for inciting racial hatred does that make you racist? You may not be charged, but you were reported so clearly you're racist"So you dont think nigel Farage Is a racist? | |||
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And where exactly has farage or UKIP ever said England for the English?
There are many far right groups in the UK that do say England for the English such as national action
Do you not think calling parties or supports of parties that aren't at all racist racists pushes people to those groups that genuinely are racist? Making yourself part of the problem
And again to clarify.
The person who launched a poster which was reported to the police for inciting racial hatred is not a problem.
But if I suggest he is a racist,I am?
Have I got that right ?
Was Farage charged over that poster?
Did I say he was.
I said he was reported.
But he will be glad to know he still has people fully behind him
I asked because I didn't know if a charge was ever brought...
If I report you to the police for inciting racial hatred does that make you racist? You may not be charged, but you were reported so clearly you're racist
So you dont think nigel Farage Is a racist?"No, farage is a civic nationalist. The only reason people think farage is racist is because he is bombarded with "you're a racist" during interviews to stop him from speaking about his parties policies | |||
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"However I'm aware we are veering off topic here . So a simple question. Do the actions of the gmnt ie immigration policy, legitimise racists or are the 2 completely separate issues? No. And two completely unrelated issues. Ok So I'll ask again When that nut job stabbed jo Cox? That was absolutely nothing to do with the rhetoric of Farage and co? Lionel, you are better than that. ‘Nut job’, not very PC. You can’t legislate for everyone either with a cause, a grudge, or a mental health issue. If so, and of course in a Perfect world, the Manchester Arena horror and others wouldn’t have happened. I keep feeling the need to remind myself and quote from the best Liverpool cultural export ever, “All you need is love”, and “give peace a chance”. Is Farage a racist? The problem here is that the word racist and racism is thrown around for anything and everything that isn't racist, which in turn changes peoples views into hardline racism because if they're going to be called racist anyway, what does it matter? Farage is a civic nationalist, how can farage influence someone to stab an unknown politician? That's rediculous Right. So it was an utter coincidence that when UKIP was talking about stopping uncontrolled immigration a far right activist stabbed a labour mp saying engkand for the english? Gotcha
And where exactly has farage or UKIP ever said England for the English?
There are many far right groups in the UK that do say England for the English such as national action
Do you not think calling parties or supports of parties that aren't at all racist racists pushes people to those groups that genuinely are racist? Making yourself part of the problem
And again to clarify.
The person who launched a poster which was reported to the police for inciting racial hatred is not a problem.
But if I suggest he is a racist,I am?
Have I got that right ?
Was Farage charged over that poster?
Did I say he was.
I said he was reported.
But he will be glad to know he still has people fully behind him
I asked because I didn't know if a charge was ever brought...
If I report you to the police for inciting racial hatred does that make you racist? You may not be charged, but you were reported so clearly you're racist
So you dont think nigel Farage Is a racist?
No, farage is a civic nationalist. The only reason people think farage is racist is because he is bombarded with "you're a racist" during interviews to stop him from speaking about his parties policies"Thank you for your honesty..nice to know where you stand | |||
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"So after getting racially abused on twitter and else where the gmnt have condemned the abuse. However considering this same gmnt has been found guilty of islamphobia and its leader has said some rather insensitive things in the past ,its been met with a healthy dose of cynicism. Indeed tyrone mings has called out that lovely ms patel on her hypocrisy over the 'tough on immigration stance Btw if anyone wants to discuss a former labour leader its probs best to start your own thread as we know how anti whataboutery everyone is on here "I'm afraid I have to disagree here Lionel. There's nothing lovely about ms patel. Possibly the wording you were searching for would be "that racist bigoted ms patel"? | |||
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"Reminds me of a story in India. A popular actor was known for the style in which he holds cigarettes in his movies. Many youngsters adored him and followed his style. People started complaining about it and tried to force him to stop smoking in his movies. Is that really the actor's fault that people are smoking by seeing him? He was just doing his job. Just like that, controlling immigration is a government's job. You can't blame them for people becoming racist. Are you going to answer the jo Cox example? And no one is saying they are making people racist. What I am saying is racists are looking at a gmnt which clamps down on immigration, along with the daily bullshit in the mail,and they are saying..they believe what I do. You are changing the goal post with every post. You started with immigration policy. Then you added the stance on taking the knee. Now you are adding daily mail. Can you stick to a single point of argument? Jo Cox murder was committed by a white supremacist. But you are making assumption that it was driven by government's stance on immigration. No evidence to prove that. I'll refer you to my post above. So it was a complete coincidence. Glad we got that ckeared up
The murder also happened when I was taking a dump. I guess that's also related because of butterfly effect.
Firstly, I thought liberals were supposed to be scientific and know the difference between correlation and causation. If you want to claim a connection between two events, the burden of evidence is on you. Just saying that it happened around the same time means nothing.
Secondly, as pointed out, you are the one who strays away from the topic in every post. Moving from immigration policy to taking the knee to daily mail. Now you moved from Tories to Farage when you warned everyone else not to bring in Corbyn in the first post. Maybe get your own act together and follow the rules that you set first before preaching others?
So what you are saying is.the rise of ukip and the brexit party,and their stance on immigration, is a completely different issue to the Tories taking a harder line on immigration.
They have no connection whatsoever,?"Here you are changing goal post again. Yet another question unrelated to the topic. Funny that you won't answer any questions other posters ask you. I hate ukip. Tories taking harder line immigration is simply because the system cannot handle it. | |||
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"Reminds me of a story in India. A popular actor was known for the style in which he holds cigarettes in his movies. Many youngsters adored him and followed his style. People started complaining about it and tried to force him to stop smoking in his movies. Is that really the actor's fault that people are smoking by seeing him? He was just doing his job. Just like that, controlling immigration is a government's job. You can't blame them for people becoming racist. Are you going to answer the jo Cox example? And no one is saying they are making people racist. What I am saying is racists are looking at a gmnt which clamps down on immigration, along with the daily bullshit in the mail,and they are saying..they believe what I do. Come on Lionel, you started this thread with 'Don't talk about Corbyn' and now you wanna bring Farage into it. Farage isn't in government just as Corbyn isn't so let's leave them both out of it as you first wished. I'm making the argument that gmnt policy on immigration gives legitimacy to racists. Farages stance on immigration was very much took up by the gmnt." how does it show some evidence Lionel what is wrong with the governments immigration policy exactly ???? | |||
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"Reminds me of a story in India. A popular actor was known for the style in which he holds cigarettes in his movies. Many youngsters adored him and followed his style. People started complaining about it and tried to force him to stop smoking in his movies. Is that really the actor's fault that people are smoking by seeing him? He was just doing his job. Just like that, controlling immigration is a government's job. You can't blame them for people becoming racist. Are you going to answer the jo Cox example? And no one is saying they are making people racist. What I am saying is racists are looking at a gmnt which clamps down on immigration, along with the daily bullshit in the mail,and they are saying..they believe what I do. Come on Lionel, you started this thread with 'Don't talk about Corbyn' and now you wanna bring Farage into it. Farage isn't in government just as Corbyn isn't so let's leave them both out of it as you first wished. I'm making the argument that gmnt policy on immigration gives legitimacy to racists. Farages stance on immigration was very much took up by the gmnt.how does it show some evidence Lionel what is wrong with the governments immigration policy exactly ????" He won't. He will ask you a different question next. If you ask him a question, he will beat around the bushes. All he is looking for is that people should answer "yes" to his questions. Same like another thread that I saw on this forum where the creator was asking in batches of three questions with the motive of getting people to answer "yes". All these look like exercises they take out of self-obsession to prove they are morally superior rather than actual evidence based argument. | |||
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"Reminds me of a story in India. A popular actor was known for the style in which he holds cigarettes in his movies. Many youngsters adored him and followed his style. People started complaining about it and tried to force him to stop smoking in his movies. Is that really the actor's fault that people are smoking by seeing him? He was just doing his job. Just like that, controlling immigration is a government's job. You can't blame them for people becoming racist. Are you going to answer the jo Cox example? And no one is saying they are making people racist. What I am saying is racists are looking at a gmnt which clamps down on immigration, along with the daily bullshit in the mail,and they are saying..they believe what I do. Come on Lionel, you started this thread with 'Don't talk about Corbyn' and now you wanna bring Farage into it. Farage isn't in government just as Corbyn isn't so let's leave them both out of it as you first wished. I'm making the argument that gmnt policy on immigration gives legitimacy to racists. Farages stance on immigration was very much took up by the gmnt.how does it show some evidence Lionel what is wrong with the governments immigration policy exactly ???? He won't. He will ask you a different question next. If you ask him a question, he will beat around the bushes. All he is looking for is that people should answer "yes" to his questions. Same like another thread that I saw on this forum where the creator was asking in batches of three questions with the motive of getting people to answer "yes". All these look like exercises they take out of self-obsession to prove they are morally superior rather than actual evidence based argument." everything you said is correct it’s been going on a long time on here it’s becoming more of an obsession than a bit of fun for some | |||
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"Reminds me of a story in India. A popular actor was known for the style in which he holds cigarettes in his movies. Many youngsters adored him and followed his style. People started complaining about it and tried to force him to stop smoking in his movies. Is that really the actor's fault that people are smoking by seeing him? He was just doing his job. Just like that, controlling immigration is a government's job. You can't blame them for people becoming racist. Are you going to answer the jo Cox example? And no one is saying they are making people racist. What I am saying is racists are looking at a gmnt which clamps down on immigration, along with the daily bullshit in the mail,and they are saying..they believe what I do. You are changing the goal post with every post. You started with immigration policy. Then you added the stance on taking the knee. Now you are adding daily mail. Can you stick to a single point of argument? Jo Cox murder was committed by a white supremacist. But you are making assumption that it was driven by government's stance on immigration. No evidence to prove that. I'll refer you to my post above. So it was a complete coincidence. Glad we got that ckeared up
The murder also happened when I was taking a dump. I guess that's also related because of butterfly effect.
Firstly, I thought liberals were supposed to be scientific and know the difference between correlation and causation. If you want to claim a connection between two events, the burden of evidence is on you. Just saying that it happened around the same time means nothing.
Secondly, as pointed out, you are the one who strays away from the topic in every post. Moving from immigration policy to taking the knee to daily mail. Now you moved from Tories to Farage when you warned everyone else not to bring in Corbyn in the first post. Maybe get your own act together and follow the rules that you set first before preaching others?
So what you are saying is.the rise of ukip and the brexit party,and their stance on immigration, is a completely different issue to the Tories taking a harder line on immigration.
They have no connection whatsoever,?
Here you are changing goal post again. Yet another question unrelated to the topic. Funny that you won't answer any questions other posters ask you.
I hate ukip. Tories taking harder line immigration is simply because the system cannot handle it. "What questions? | |||
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"Reminds me of a story in India. A popular actor was known for the style in which he holds cigarettes in his movies. Many youngsters adored him and followed his style. People started complaining about it and tried to force him to stop smoking in his movies. Is that really the actor's fault that people are smoking by seeing him? He was just doing his job. Just like that, controlling immigration is a government's job. You can't blame them for people becoming racist. Are you going to answer the jo Cox example? And no one is saying they are making people racist. What I am saying is racists are looking at a gmnt which clamps down on immigration, along with the daily bullshit in the mail,and they are saying..they believe what I do. Come on Lionel, you started this thread with 'Don't talk about Corbyn' and now you wanna bring Farage into it. Farage isn't in government just as Corbyn isn't so let's leave them both out of it as you first wished. I'm making the argument that gmnt policy on immigration gives legitimacy to racists. Farages stance on immigration was very much took up by the gmnt.how does it show some evidence Lionel what is wrong with the governments immigration policy exactly ????" Well for a start I dont think we are flooded with immigrants.I also think when they are housed,we should at least try not to breach their human rights. Does that answer your question? | |||
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"Reminds me of a story in India. A popular actor was known for the style in which he holds cigarettes in his movies. Many youngsters adored him and followed his style. People started complaining about it and tried to force him to stop smoking in his movies. Is that really the actor's fault that people are smoking by seeing him? He was just doing his job. Just like that, controlling immigration is a government's job. You can't blame them for people becoming racist. Are you going to answer the jo Cox example? And no one is saying they are making people racist. What I am saying is racists are looking at a gmnt which clamps down on immigration, along with the daily bullshit in the mail,and they are saying..they believe what I do. You are changing the goal post with every post. You started with immigration policy. Then you added the stance on taking the knee. Now you are adding daily mail. Can you stick to a single point of argument? Jo Cox murder was committed by a white supremacist. But you are making assumption that it was driven by government's stance on immigration. No evidence to prove that. I'll refer you to my post above. So it was a complete coincidence. Glad we got that ckeared up
The murder also happened when I was taking a dump. I guess that's also related because of butterfly effect.
Firstly, I thought liberals were supposed to be scientific and know the difference between correlation and causation. If you want to claim a connection between two events, the burden of evidence is on you. Just saying that it happened around the same time means nothing.
Secondly, as pointed out, you are the one who strays away from the topic in every post. Moving from immigration policy to taking the knee to daily mail. Now you moved from Tories to Farage when you warned everyone else not to bring in Corbyn in the first post. Maybe get your own act together and follow the rules that you set first before preaching others?
So what you are saying is.the rise of ukip and the brexit party,and their stance on immigration, is a completely different issue to the Tories taking a harder line on immigration.
They have no connection whatsoever,?
Here you are changing goal post again. Yet another question unrelated to the topic. Funny that you won't answer any questions other posters ask you.
I hate ukip. Tories taking harder line immigration is simply because the system cannot handle it.
What questions?"Every post your made above have questions that are unrelated to the original post you made. When we asked you questions, you answered that "you are asking questions instead of answering my questions". | |||
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"Reminds me of a story in India. A popular actor was known for the style in which he holds cigarettes in his movies. Many youngsters adored him and followed his style. People started complaining about it and tried to force him to stop smoking in his movies. Is that really the actor's fault that people are smoking by seeing him? He was just doing his job. Just like that, controlling immigration is a government's job. You can't blame them for people becoming racist. Are you going to answer the jo Cox example? And no one is saying they are making people racist. What I am saying is racists are looking at a gmnt which clamps down on immigration, along with the daily bullshit in the mail,and they are saying..they believe what I do. You are changing the goal post with every post. You started with immigration policy. Then you added the stance on taking the knee. Now you are adding daily mail. Can you stick to a single point of argument? Jo Cox murder was committed by a white supremacist. But you are making assumption that it was driven by government's stance on immigration. No evidence to prove that. I'll refer you to my post above. So it was a complete coincidence. Glad we got that ckeared up
The murder also happened when I was taking a dump. I guess that's also related because of butterfly effect.
Firstly, I thought liberals were supposed to be scientific and know the difference between correlation and causation. If you want to claim a connection between two events, the burden of evidence is on you. Just saying that it happened around the same time means nothing.
Secondly, as pointed out, you are the one who strays away from the topic in every post. Moving from immigration policy to taking the knee to daily mail. Now you moved from Tories to Farage when you warned everyone else not to bring in Corbyn in the first post. Maybe get your own act together and follow the rules that you set first before preaching others?
So what you are saying is.the rise of ukip and the brexit party,and their stance on immigration, is a completely different issue to the Tories taking a harder line on immigration.
They have no connection whatsoever,?
Here you are changing goal post again. Yet another question unrelated to the topic. Funny that you won't answer any questions other posters ask you.
I hate ukip. Tories taking harder line immigration is simply because the system cannot handle it.
What questions?
Every post your made above have questions that are unrelated to the original post you made. When we asked you questions, you answered that "you are asking questions instead of answering my questions"."I'll try again. What questions? | |||
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"Reminds me of a story in India. A popular actor was known for the style in which he holds cigarettes in his movies. Many youngsters adored him and followed his style. People started complaining about it and tried to force him to stop smoking in his movies. Is that really the actor's fault that people are smoking by seeing him? He was just doing his job. Just like that, controlling immigration is a government's job. You can't blame them for people becoming racist. Are you going to answer the jo Cox example? And no one is saying they are making people racist. What I am saying is racists are looking at a gmnt which clamps down on immigration, along with the daily bullshit in the mail,and they are saying..they believe what I do. You are changing the goal post with every post. You started with immigration policy. Then you added the stance on taking the knee. Now you are adding daily mail. Can you stick to a single point of argument? Jo Cox murder was committed by a white supremacist. But you are making assumption that it was driven by government's stance on immigration. No evidence to prove that. I'll refer you to my post above. So it was a complete coincidence. Glad we got that ckeared up
The murder also happened when I was taking a dump. I guess that's also related because of butterfly effect.
Firstly, I thought liberals were supposed to be scientific and know the difference between correlation and causation. If you want to claim a connection between two events, the burden of evidence is on you. Just saying that it happened around the same time means nothing.
Secondly, as pointed out, you are the one who strays away from the topic in every post. Moving from immigration policy to taking the knee to daily mail. Now you moved from Tories to Farage when you warned everyone else not to bring in Corbyn in the first post. Maybe get your own act together and follow the rules that you set first before preaching others?
So what you are saying is.the rise of ukip and the brexit party,and their stance on immigration, is a completely different issue to the Tories taking a harder line on immigration.
They have no connection whatsoever,?
Here you are changing goal post again. Yet another question unrelated to the topic. Funny that you won't answer any questions other posters ask you.
I hate ukip. Tories taking harder line immigration is simply because the system cannot handle it.
What questions?
Every post your made above have questions that are unrelated to the original post you made. When we asked you questions, you answered that "you are asking questions instead of answering my questions"."My posts have consistently referenced the gmnts immigration policy,which was given support by the policy of ukip,despite your protestations, and the relevance to racism in this country. Not 1 of my posts have deviated from this. However like everyone in your little crew when someone else does actually divert the thread,ie corbyn.you choose to stay silent. How odd. | |||
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"Reminds me of a story in India. A popular actor was known for the style in which he holds cigarettes in his movies. Many youngsters adored him and followed his style. People started complaining about it and tried to force him to stop smoking in his movies. Is that really the actor's fault that people are smoking by seeing him? He was just doing his job. Just like that, controlling immigration is a government's job. You can't blame them for people becoming racist. Are you going to answer the jo Cox example? And no one is saying they are making people racist. What I am saying is racists are looking at a gmnt which clamps down on immigration, along with the daily bullshit in the mail,and they are saying..they believe what I do. Come on Lionel, you started this thread with 'Don't talk about Corbyn' and now you wanna bring Farage into it. Farage isn't in government just as Corbyn isn't so let's leave them both out of it as you first wished. I'm making the argument that gmnt policy on immigration gives legitimacy to racists. Farages stance on immigration was very much took up by the gmnt.how does it show some evidence Lionel what is wrong with the governments immigration policy exactly ???? Well for a start I dont think we are flooded with immigrants.I also think when they are housed,we should at least try not to breach their human rights. Does that answer your question?" "Flooded" depends on the context. It depends on how much money the government has. As of now, there are over 100,000 asylum seekers pending decision. It would be hard for the government that's already in lot of debt and finding it hard to provide housing for the citizens to spend money on people coming from other countries. It is easy to sit in front of the computer and say you feel sympathetic to these people and they need to be given comfortable to accommodation. It's hard to spend money that you don't have. | |||
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"Reminds me of a story in India. A popular actor was known for the style in which he holds cigarettes in his movies. Many youngsters adored him and followed his style. People started complaining about it and tried to force him to stop smoking in his movies. Is that really the actor's fault that people are smoking by seeing him? He was just doing his job. Just like that, controlling immigration is a government's job. You can't blame them for people becoming racist. Are you going to answer the jo Cox example? And no one is saying they are making people racist. What I am saying is racists are looking at a gmnt which clamps down on immigration, along with the daily bullshit in the mail,and they are saying..they believe what I do. Come on Lionel, you started this thread with 'Don't talk about Corbyn' and now you wanna bring Farage into it. Farage isn't in government just as Corbyn isn't so let's leave them both out of it as you first wished. I'm making the argument that gmnt policy on immigration gives legitimacy to racists. Farages stance on immigration was very much took up by the gmnt.how does it show some evidence Lionel what is wrong with the governments immigration policy exactly ???? Well for a start I dont think we are flooded with immigrants.I also think when they are housed,we should at least try not to breach their human rights. Does that answer your question? "Flooded" depends on the context. It depends on how much money the government has. As of now, there are over 100,000 asylum seekers pending decision. It would be hard for the government that's already in lot of debt and finding it hard to provide housing for the citizens to spend money on people coming from other countries. It is easy to sit in front of the computer and say you feel sympathetic to these people and they need to be given comfortable to accommodation. It's hard to spend money that you don't have." I was asked a question and I answered. The fact that you disagree with me is not going to keep ne up at night, trust me. Money we dont have. Of course. There is no magic money tree. How much has been spent on track and trace/dodgy ppe contracts again? | |||
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"Reminds me of a story in India. A popular actor was known for the style in which he holds cigarettes in his movies. Many youngsters adored him and followed his style. People started complaining about it and tried to force him to stop smoking in his movies. Is that really the actor's fault that people are smoking by seeing him? He was just doing his job. Just like that, controlling immigration is a government's job. You can't blame them for people becoming racist. Are you going to answer the jo Cox example? And no one is saying they are making people racist. What I am saying is racists are looking at a gmnt which clamps down on immigration, along with the daily bullshit in the mail,and they are saying..they believe what I do. You are changing the goal post with every post. You started with immigration policy. Then you added the stance on taking the knee. Now you are adding daily mail. Can you stick to a single point of argument? Jo Cox murder was committed by a white supremacist. But you are making assumption that it was driven by government's stance on immigration. No evidence to prove that. I'll refer you to my post above. So it was a complete coincidence. Glad we got that ckeared up
The murder also happened when I was taking a dump. I guess that's also related because of butterfly effect.
Firstly, I thought liberals were supposed to be scientific and know the difference between correlation and causation. If you want to claim a connection between two events, the burden of evidence is on you. Just saying that it happened around the same time means nothing.
Secondly, as pointed out, you are the one who strays away from the topic in every post. Moving from immigration policy to taking the knee to daily mail. Now you moved from Tories to Farage when you warned everyone else not to bring in Corbyn in the first post. Maybe get your own act together and follow the rules that you set first before preaching others?
So what you are saying is.the rise of ukip and the brexit party,and their stance on immigration, is a completely different issue to the Tories taking a harder line on immigration.
They have no connection whatsoever,?
Here you are changing goal post again. Yet another question unrelated to the topic. Funny that you won't answer any questions other posters ask you.
I hate ukip. Tories taking harder line immigration is simply because the system cannot handle it.
What questions?
Every post your made above have questions that are unrelated to the original post you made. When we asked you questions, you answered that "you are asking questions instead of answering my questions".
My posts have consistently referenced the gmnts immigration policy,which was given support by the policy of ukip,despite your protestations, and the relevance to racism in this country.
Not 1 of my posts have deviated from this.
However like everyone in your little crew when someone else does actually divert the thread,ie corbyn.you choose to stay silent.
How odd."Probably repeating this to you for the fourth time. You started by saying that immigration policy was responsible for people legitimising racism. Once people asked for evidence, you asked if Priti Patel's stance on taking the knee was. Then you moved on to daily mail. Then you said Nigel Farage was responsible. All this after claiming that Corbyn should not be brought into the debate  | |||
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"Reminds me of a story in India. A popular actor was known for the style in which he holds cigarettes in his movies. Many youngsters adored him and followed his style. People started complaining about it and tried to force him to stop smoking in his movies. Is that really the actor's fault that people are smoking by seeing him? He was just doing his job. Just like that, controlling immigration is a government's job. You can't blame them for people becoming racist. Are you going to answer the jo Cox example? And no one is saying they are making people racist. What I am saying is racists are looking at a gmnt which clamps down on immigration, along with the daily bullshit in the mail,and they are saying..they believe what I do. You are changing the goal post with every post. You started with immigration policy. Then you added the stance on taking the knee. Now you are adding daily mail. Can you stick to a single point of argument? Jo Cox murder was committed by a white supremacist. But you are making assumption that it was driven by government's stance on immigration. No evidence to prove that. I'll refer you to my post above. So it was a complete coincidence. Glad we got that ckeared up
The murder also happened when I was taking a dump. I guess that's also related because of butterfly effect.
Firstly, I thought liberals were supposed to be scientific and know the difference between correlation and causation. If you want to claim a connection between two events, the burden of evidence is on you. Just saying that it happened around the same time means nothing.
Secondly, as pointed out, you are the one who strays away from the topic in every post. Moving from immigration policy to taking the knee to daily mail. Now you moved from Tories to Farage when you warned everyone else not to bring in Corbyn in the first post. Maybe get your own act together and follow the rules that you set first before preaching others?
So what you are saying is.the rise of ukip and the brexit party,and their stance on immigration, is a completely different issue to the Tories taking a harder line on immigration.
They have no connection whatsoever,?
Here you are changing goal post again. Yet another question unrelated to the topic. Funny that you won't answer any questions other posters ask you.
I hate ukip. Tories taking harder line immigration is simply because the system cannot handle it.
What questions?
Every post your made above have questions that are unrelated to the original post you made. When we asked you questions, you answered that "you are asking questions instead of answering my questions".
My posts have consistently referenced the gmnts immigration policy,which was given support by the policy of ukip,despite your protestations, and the relevance to racism in this country.
Not 1 of my posts have deviated from this.
However like everyone in your little crew when someone else does actually divert the thread,ie corbyn.you choose to stay silent.
How odd.
Probably repeating this to you for the fourth time. You started by saying that immigration policy was responsible for people legitimising racism. Once people asked for evidence, you asked if Priti Patel's stance on taking the knee was. Then you moved on to daily mail. Then you said Nigel Farage was responsible. All this after claiming that Corbyn should not be brought into the debate "I've said all the way through that the gmnts stance on immigration has legitimized racism. | |||
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"Reminds me of a story in India. A popular actor was known for the style in which he holds cigarettes in his movies. Many youngsters adored him and followed his style. People started complaining about it and tried to force him to stop smoking in his movies. Is that really the actor's fault that people are smoking by seeing him? He was just doing his job. Just like that, controlling immigration is a government's job. You can't blame them for people becoming racist. Are you going to answer the jo Cox example? And no one is saying they are making people racist. What I am saying is racists are looking at a gmnt which clamps down on immigration, along with the daily bullshit in the mail,and they are saying..they believe what I do. Come on Lionel, you started this thread with 'Don't talk about Corbyn' and now you wanna bring Farage into it. Farage isn't in government just as Corbyn isn't so let's leave them both out of it as you first wished. I'm making the argument that gmnt policy on immigration gives legitimacy to racists. Farages stance on immigration was very much took up by the gmnt.how does it show some evidence Lionel what is wrong with the governments immigration policy exactly ???? Well for a start I dont think we are flooded with immigrants.I also think when they are housed,we should at least try not to breach their human rights. Does that answer your question? "Flooded" depends on the context. It depends on how much money the government has. As of now, there are over 100,000 asylum seekers pending decision. It would be hard for the government that's already in lot of debt and finding it hard to provide housing for the citizens to spend money on people coming from other countries. It is easy to sit in front of the computer and say you feel sympathetic to these people and they need to be given comfortable to accommodation. It's hard to spend money that you don't have. I was asked a question and I answered. The fact that you disagree with me is not going to keep ne up at night, trust me. Money we dont have. Of course. There is no magic money tree. How much has been spent on track and trace/dodgy ppe contracts again?" Track and trace still works. I have been notified to isolate once. PPE contract money? Even if we could have saved some extra money that you claim we could have profited on the deals, we could not sustain the asylum system for more than 100,000 people | |||
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"Reminds me of a story in India. A popular actor was known for the style in which he holds cigarettes in his movies. Many youngsters adored him and followed his style. People started complaining about it and tried to force him to stop smoking in his movies. Is that really the actor's fault that people are smoking by seeing him? He was just doing his job. Just like that, controlling immigration is a government's job. You can't blame them for people becoming racist. Are you going to answer the jo Cox example? And no one is saying they are making people racist. What I am saying is racists are looking at a gmnt which clamps down on immigration, along with the daily bullshit in the mail,and they are saying..they believe what I do. You are changing the goal post with every post. You started with immigration policy. Then you added the stance on taking the knee. Now you are adding daily mail. Can you stick to a single point of argument? Jo Cox murder was committed by a white supremacist. But you are making assumption that it was driven by government's stance on immigration. No evidence to prove that. I'll refer you to my post above. So it was a complete coincidence. Glad we got that ckeared up
The murder also happened when I was taking a dump. I guess that's also related because of butterfly effect.
Firstly, I thought liberals were supposed to be scientific and know the difference between correlation and causation. If you want to claim a connection between two events, the burden of evidence is on you. Just saying that it happened around the same time means nothing.
Secondly, as pointed out, you are the one who strays away from the topic in every post. Moving from immigration policy to taking the knee to daily mail. Now you moved from Tories to Farage when you warned everyone else not to bring in Corbyn in the first post. Maybe get your own act together and follow the rules that you set first before preaching others?
So what you are saying is.the rise of ukip and the brexit party,and their stance on immigration, is a completely different issue to the Tories taking a harder line on immigration.
They have no connection whatsoever,?
Here you are changing goal post again. Yet another question unrelated to the topic. Funny that you won't answer any questions other posters ask you.
I hate ukip. Tories taking harder line immigration is simply because the system cannot handle it.
What questions?
Every post your made above have questions that are unrelated to the original post you made. When we asked you questions, you answered that "you are asking questions instead of answering my questions".
My posts have consistently referenced the gmnts immigration policy,which was given support by the policy of ukip,despite your protestations, and the relevance to racism in this country.
Not 1 of my posts have deviated from this.
However like everyone in your little crew when someone else does actually divert the thread,ie corbyn.you choose to stay silent.
How odd.
Probably repeating this to you for the fourth time. You started by saying that immigration policy was responsible for people legitimising racism. Once people asked for evidence, you asked if Priti Patel's stance on taking the knee was. Then you moved on to daily mail. Then you said Nigel Farage was responsible. All this after claiming that Corbyn should not be brought into the debate
I've said all the way through that the gmnts stance on immigration has legitimized racism."And you didn't have evidence for that. So you decided to jump to Taking the knee, Daily mail and Farage. | |||
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"Reminds me of a story in India. A popular actor was known for the style in which he holds cigarettes in his movies. Many youngsters adored him and followed his style. People started complaining about it and tried to force him to stop smoking in his movies. Is that really the actor's fault that people are smoking by seeing him? He was just doing his job. Just like that, controlling immigration is a government's job. You can't blame them for people becoming racist. Are you going to answer the jo Cox example? And no one is saying they are making people racist. What I am saying is racists are looking at a gmnt which clamps down on immigration, along with the daily bullshit in the mail,and they are saying..they believe what I do. You are changing the goal post with every post. You started with immigration policy. Then you added the stance on taking the knee. Now you are adding daily mail. Can you stick to a single point of argument? Jo Cox murder was committed by a white supremacist. But you are making assumption that it was driven by government's stance on immigration. No evidence to prove that. I'll refer you to my post above. So it was a complete coincidence. Glad we got that ckeared up
The murder also happened when I was taking a dump. I guess that's also related because of butterfly effect.
Firstly, I thought liberals were supposed to be scientific and know the difference between correlation and causation. If you want to claim a connection between two events, the burden of evidence is on you. Just saying that it happened around the same time means nothing.
Secondly, as pointed out, you are the one who strays away from the topic in every post. Moving from immigration policy to taking the knee to daily mail. Now you moved from Tories to Farage when you warned everyone else not to bring in Corbyn in the first post. Maybe get your own act together and follow the rules that you set first before preaching others?
So what you are saying is.the rise of ukip and the brexit party,and their stance on immigration, is a completely different issue to the Tories taking a harder line on immigration.
They have no connection whatsoever,?
Here you are changing goal post again. Yet another question unrelated to the topic. Funny that you won't answer any questions other posters ask you.
I hate ukip. Tories taking harder line immigration is simply because the system cannot handle it.
What questions?
Every post your made above have questions that are unrelated to the original post you made. When we asked you questions, you answered that "you are asking questions instead of answering my questions".
I'll try again.
What questions?""So reading the OP Lionel are you saying the government should not of condemned the racial abuse?" Unanswered question.! | |||
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"Reminds me of a story in India. A popular actor was known for the style in which he holds cigarettes in his movies. Many youngsters adored him and followed his style. People started complaining about it and tried to force him to stop smoking in his movies. Is that really the actor's fault that people are smoking by seeing him? He was just doing his job. Just like that, controlling immigration is a government's job. You can't blame them for people becoming racist. Are you going to answer the jo Cox example? And no one is saying they are making people racist. What I am saying is racists are looking at a gmnt which clamps down on immigration, along with the daily bullshit in the mail,and they are saying..they believe what I do. You are changing the goal post with every post. You started with immigration policy. Then you added the stance on taking the knee. Now you are adding daily mail. Can you stick to a single point of argument? Jo Cox murder was committed by a white supremacist. But you are making assumption that it was driven by government's stance on immigration. No evidence to prove that. I'll refer you to my post above. So it was a complete coincidence. Glad we got that ckeared up
The murder also happened when I was taking a dump. I guess that's also related because of butterfly effect.
Firstly, I thought liberals were supposed to be scientific and know the difference between correlation and causation. If you want to claim a connection between two events, the burden of evidence is on you. Just saying that it happened around the same time means nothing.
Secondly, as pointed out, you are the one who strays away from the topic in every post. Moving from immigration policy to taking the knee to daily mail. Now you moved from Tories to Farage when you warned everyone else not to bring in Corbyn in the first post. Maybe get your own act together and follow the rules that you set first before preaching others?
So what you are saying is.the rise of ukip and the brexit party,and their stance on immigration, is a completely different issue to the Tories taking a harder line on immigration.
They have no connection whatsoever,?
Here you are changing goal post again. Yet another question unrelated to the topic. Funny that you won't answer any questions other posters ask you.
I hate ukip. Tories taking harder line immigration is simply because the system cannot handle it.
What questions?
Every post your made above have questions that are unrelated to the original post you made. When we asked you questions, you answered that "you are asking questions instead of answering my questions".
My posts have consistently referenced the gmnts immigration policy,which was given support by the policy of ukip,despite your protestations, and the relevance to racism in this country.
Not 1 of my posts have deviated from this.
However like everyone in your little crew when someone else does actually divert the thread,ie corbyn.you choose to stay silent.
How odd.
Probably repeating this to you for the fourth time. You started by saying that immigration policy was responsible for people legitimising racism. Once people asked for evidence, you asked if Priti Patel's stance on taking the knee was. Then you moved on to daily mail. Then you said Nigel Farage was responsible. All this after claiming that Corbyn should not be brought into the debate
I've said all the way through that the gmnts stance on immigration has legitimized racism.
And you didn't have evidence for that. So you decided to jump to Taking the knee, Daily mail and Farage."Sigh. Ok I've tried twice but it clearly hasn't sunk it. I'll give it 1 more go. The rise of uk and brexit threatened to take away Tory voters as a result they moved closer to their policy on immigration. It's really not rocket science. The daily mail is a right wing Tory paper which often prints scare stories about immigrants. If you think all of these are completely separate entities maybe I could draw you a diagram?
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"Reminds me of a story in India. A popular actor was known for the style in which he holds cigarettes in his movies. Many youngsters adored him and followed his style. People started complaining about it and tried to force him to stop smoking in his movies. Is that really the actor's fault that people are smoking by seeing him? He was just doing his job. Just like that, controlling immigration is a government's job. You can't blame them for people becoming racist. Are you going to answer the jo Cox example? And no one is saying they are making people racist. What I am saying is racists are looking at a gmnt which clamps down on immigration, along with the daily bullshit in the mail,and they are saying..they believe what I do. You are changing the goal post with every post. You started with immigration policy. Then you added the stance on taking the knee. Now you are adding daily mail. Can you stick to a single point of argument? Jo Cox murder was committed by a white supremacist. But you are making assumption that it was driven by government's stance on immigration. No evidence to prove that. I'll refer you to my post above. So it was a complete coincidence. Glad we got that ckeared up
The murder also happened when I was taking a dump. I guess that's also related because of butterfly effect.
Firstly, I thought liberals were supposed to be scientific and know the difference between correlation and causation. If you want to claim a connection between two events, the burden of evidence is on you. Just saying that it happened around the same time means nothing.
Secondly, as pointed out, you are the one who strays away from the topic in every post. Moving from immigration policy to taking the knee to daily mail. Now you moved from Tories to Farage when you warned everyone else not to bring in Corbyn in the first post. Maybe get your own act together and follow the rules that you set first before preaching others?
So what you are saying is.the rise of ukip and the brexit party,and their stance on immigration, is a completely different issue to the Tories taking a harder line on immigration.
They have no connection whatsoever,?
Here you are changing goal post again. Yet another question unrelated to the topic. Funny that you won't answer any questions other posters ask you.
I hate ukip. Tories taking harder line immigration is simply because the system cannot handle it.
What questions?
Every post your made above have questions that are unrelated to the original post you made. When we asked you questions, you answered that "you are asking questions instead of answering my questions".
I'll try again.
What questions?
"So reading the OP Lionel are you saying the government should not of condemned the racial abuse?"
Unanswered question.!
"I'll concede I missed that one though I would have thought my point about them being hypocrites would have answered that question. When you have a pm making insentive racial remarks,I'd say the condemnation was rather pointless. | |||
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"Reminds me of a story in India. A popular actor was known for the style in which he holds cigarettes in his movies. Many youngsters adored him and followed his style. People started complaining about it and tried to force him to stop smoking in his movies. Is that really the actor's fault that people are smoking by seeing him? He was just doing his job. Just like that, controlling immigration is a government's job. You can't blame them for people becoming racist. Are you going to answer the jo Cox example? And no one is saying they are making people racist. What I am saying is racists are looking at a gmnt which clamps down on immigration, along with the daily bullshit in the mail,and they are saying..they believe what I do. You are changing the goal post with every post. You started with immigration policy. Then you added the stance on taking the knee. Now you are adding daily mail. Can you stick to a single point of argument? Jo Cox murder was committed by a white supremacist. But you are making assumption that it was driven by government's stance on immigration. No evidence to prove that. I'll refer you to my post above. So it was a complete coincidence. Glad we got that ckeared up
The murder also happened when I was taking a dump. I guess that's also related because of butterfly effect.
Firstly, I thought liberals were supposed to be scientific and know the difference between correlation and causation. If you want to claim a connection between two events, the burden of evidence is on you. Just saying that it happened around the same time means nothing.
Secondly, as pointed out, you are the one who strays away from the topic in every post. Moving from immigration policy to taking the knee to daily mail. Now you moved from Tories to Farage when you warned everyone else not to bring in Corbyn in the first post. Maybe get your own act together and follow the rules that you set first before preaching others?
So what you are saying is.the rise of ukip and the brexit party,and their stance on immigration, is a completely different issue to the Tories taking a harder line on immigration.
They have no connection whatsoever,?
Here you are changing goal post again. Yet another question unrelated to the topic. Funny that you won't answer any questions other posters ask you.
I hate ukip. Tories taking harder line immigration is simply because the system cannot handle it.
What questions?
Every post your made above have questions that are unrelated to the original post you made. When we asked you questions, you answered that "you are asking questions instead of answering my questions".
I'll try again.
What questions?
"So reading the OP Lionel are you saying the government should not of condemned the racial abuse?"
Unanswered question.!
I'll concede I missed that one though I would have thought my point about them being hypocrites would have answered that question.
When you have a pm making insentive racial remarks,I'd say the condemnation was rather pointless."You haven't actually answered the question. You have only given YOUR slant on it. A simple YES or NO would be sufficient. | |||
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"Reminds me of a story in India. A popular actor was known for the style in which he holds cigarettes in his movies. Many youngsters adored him and followed his style. People started complaining about it and tried to force him to stop smoking in his movies. Is that really the actor's fault that people are smoking by seeing him? He was just doing his job. Just like that, controlling immigration is a government's job. You can't blame them for people becoming racist. Are you going to answer the jo Cox example? And no one is saying they are making people racist. What I am saying is racists are looking at a gmnt which clamps down on immigration, along with the daily bullshit in the mail,and they are saying..they believe what I do. You are changing the goal post with every post. You started with immigration policy. Then you added the stance on taking the knee. Now you are adding daily mail. Can you stick to a single point of argument? Jo Cox murder was committed by a white supremacist. But you are making assumption that it was driven by government's stance on immigration. No evidence to prove that. I'll refer you to my post above. So it was a complete coincidence. Glad we got that ckeared up
The murder also happened when I was taking a dump. I guess that's also related because of butterfly effect.
Firstly, I thought liberals were supposed to be scientific and know the difference between correlation and causation. If you want to claim a connection between two events, the burden of evidence is on you. Just saying that it happened around the same time means nothing.
Secondly, as pointed out, you are the one who strays away from the topic in every post. Moving from immigration policy to taking the knee to daily mail. Now you moved from Tories to Farage when you warned everyone else not to bring in Corbyn in the first post. Maybe get your own act together and follow the rules that you set first before preaching others?
So what you are saying is.the rise of ukip and the brexit party,and their stance on immigration, is a completely different issue to the Tories taking a harder line on immigration.
They have no connection whatsoever,?
Here you are changing goal post again. Yet another question unrelated to the topic. Funny that you won't answer any questions other posters ask you.
I hate ukip. Tories taking harder line immigration is simply because the system cannot handle it.
What questions?
Every post your made above have questions that are unrelated to the original post you made. When we asked you questions, you answered that "you are asking questions instead of answering my questions".
My posts have consistently referenced the gmnts immigration policy,which was given support by the policy of ukip,despite your protestations, and the relevance to racism in this country.
Not 1 of my posts have deviated from this.
However like everyone in your little crew when someone else does actually divert the thread,ie corbyn.you choose to stay silent.
How odd.
Probably repeating this to you for the fourth time. You started by saying that immigration policy was responsible for people legitimising racism. Once people asked for evidence, you asked if Priti Patel's stance on taking the knee was. Then you moved on to daily mail. Then you said Nigel Farage was responsible. All this after claiming that Corbyn should not be brought into the debate
I've said all the way through that the gmnts stance on immigration has legitimized racism.
And you didn't have evidence for that. So you decided to jump to Taking the knee, Daily mail and Farage.
Sigh.
Ok I've tried twice but it clearly hasn't sunk it.
I'll give it 1 more go.
The rise of uk and brexit threatened to take away Tory voters as a result they moved closer to their policy on immigration.
It's really not rocket science.
The daily mail is a right wing Tory paper which often prints scare stories about immigrants.
If you think all of these are completely separate entities maybe I could draw you a diagram?
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The murder also happened when I was taking a dump. I guess that's also related because of butterfly effect.
Firstly, I thought liberals were supposed to be scientific and know the difference between correlation and causation. If you want to claim a connection between two events, the burden of evidence is on you. Just saying that it happened around the same time means nothing.
Secondly, as pointed out, you are the one who strays away from the topic in every post. Moving from immigration policy to taking the knee to daily mail. Now you moved from Tories to Farage when you warned everyone else not to bring in Corbyn in the first post. Maybe get your own act together and follow the rules that you set first before preaching others?
So what you are saying is.the rise of ukip and the brexit party,and their stance on immigration, is a completely different issue to the Tories taking a harder line on immigration.
They have no connection whatsoever,?
Here you are changing goal post again. Yet another question unrelated to the topic. Funny that you won't answer any questions other posters ask you.
I hate ukip. Tories taking harder line immigration is simply because the system cannot handle it.
What questions?
Every post your made above have questions that are unrelated to the original post you made. When we asked you questions, you answered that "you are asking questions instead of answering my questions".
I'll try again.
What questions?
"So reading the OP Lionel are you saying the government should not of condemned the racial abuse?"
Unanswered question.!
I'll concede I missed that one though I would have thought my point about them being hypocrites would have answered that question.
When you have a pm making insentive racial remarks,I'd say the condemnation was rather pointless.
You haven't actually answered the question.
You have only given YOUR slant on it.
A simple YES or NO would be sufficient."No because its meaningless | |||
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The murder also happened when I was taking a dump. I guess that's also related because of butterfly effect.
Firstly, I thought liberals were supposed to be scientific and know the difference between correlation and causation. If you want to claim a connection between two events, the burden of evidence is on you. Just saying that it happened around the same time means nothing.
Secondly, as pointed out, you are the one who strays away from the topic in every post. Moving from immigration policy to taking the knee to daily mail. Now you moved from Tories to Farage when you warned everyone else not to bring in Corbyn in the first post. Maybe get your own act together and follow the rules that you set first before preaching others?
So what you are saying is.the rise of ukip and the brexit party,and their stance on immigration, is a completely different issue to the Tories taking a harder line on immigration.
They have no connection whatsoever,?
Here you are changing goal post again. Yet another question unrelated to the topic. Funny that you won't answer any questions other posters ask you.
I hate ukip. Tories taking harder line immigration is simply because the system cannot handle it.
What questions?
Every post your made above have questions that are unrelated to the original post you made. When we asked you questions, you answered that "you are asking questions instead of answering my questions".
I'll try again.
What questions?
"So reading the OP Lionel are you saying the government should not of condemned the racial abuse?"
Unanswered question.!
I'll concede I missed that one though I would have thought my point about them being hypocrites would have answered that question.
When you have a pm making insentive racial remarks,I'd say the condemnation was rather pointless.
You haven't actually answered the question.
You have only given YOUR slant on it.
A simple YES or NO would be sufficient.
No because its meaningless"In that case I have no doubt that if they hadn't condemned the racial abuse you would've started a thread complaining the government had said nothing. | |||
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The murder also happened when I was taking a dump. I guess that's also related because of butterfly effect.
Firstly, I thought liberals were supposed to be scientific and know the difference between correlation and causation. If you want to claim a connection between two events, the burden of evidence is on you. Just saying that it happened around the same time means nothing.
Secondly, as pointed out, you are the one who strays away from the topic in every post. Moving from immigration policy to taking the knee to daily mail. Now you moved from Tories to Farage when you warned everyone else not to bring in Corbyn in the first post. Maybe get your own act together and follow the rules that you set first before preaching others?
So what you are saying is.the rise of ukip and the brexit party,and their stance on immigration, is a completely different issue to the Tories taking a harder line on immigration.
They have no connection whatsoever,?
Here you are changing goal post again. Yet another question unrelated to the topic. Funny that you won't answer any questions other posters ask you.
I hate ukip. Tories taking harder line immigration is simply because the system cannot handle it.
What questions?
Every post your made above have questions that are unrelated to the original post you made. When we asked you questions, you answered that "you are asking questions instead of answering my questions".
I'll try again.
What questions?
"So reading the OP Lionel are you saying the government should not of condemned the racial abuse?"
Unanswered question.!
I'll concede I missed that one though I would have thought my point about them being hypocrites would have answered that question.
When you have a pm making insentive racial remarks,I'd say the condemnation was rather pointless.
You haven't actually answered the question.
You have only given YOUR slant on it.
A simple YES or NO would be sufficient.
No because its meaningless
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The murder also happened when I was taking a dump. I guess that's also related because of butterfly effect.
Firstly, I thought liberals were supposed to be scientific and know the difference between correlation and causation. If you want to claim a connection between two events, the burden of evidence is on you. Just saying that it happened around the same time means nothing.
Secondly, as pointed out, you are the one who strays away from the topic in every post. Moving from immigration policy to taking the knee to daily mail. Now you moved from Tories to Farage when you warned everyone else not to bring in Corbyn in the first post. Maybe get your own act together and follow the rules that you set first before preaching others?
So what you are saying is.the rise of ukip and the brexit party,and their stance on immigration, is a completely different issue to the Tories taking a harder line on immigration.
They have no connection whatsoever,?
Here you are changing goal post again. Yet another question unrelated to the topic. Funny that you won't answer any questions other posters ask you.
I hate ukip. Tories taking harder line immigration is simply because the system cannot handle it.
What questions?
Every post your made above have questions that are unrelated to the original post you made. When we asked you questions, you answered that "you are asking questions instead of answering my questions".
I'll try again.
What questions?
"So reading the OP Lionel are you saying the government should not of condemned the racial abuse?"
Unanswered question.!
I'll concede I missed that one though I would have thought my point about them being hypocrites would have answered that question.
When you have a pm making insentive racial remarks,I'd say the condemnation was rather pointless.
You haven't actually answered the question.
You have only given YOUR slant on it.
A simple YES or NO would be sufficient.
No because its meaningless
In that case I have no doubt that if they hadn't condemned the racial abuse you would've started a thread complaining the government had said nothing."aw that is a given lol | |||
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The murder also happened when I was taking a dump. I guess that's also related because of butterfly effect.
Firstly, I thought liberals were supposed to be scientific and know the difference between correlation and causation. If you want to claim a connection between two events, the burden of evidence is on you. Just saying that it happened around the same time means nothing.
Secondly, as pointed out, you are the one who strays away from the topic in every post. Moving from immigration policy to taking the knee to daily mail. Now you moved from Tories to Farage when you warned everyone else not to bring in Corbyn in the first post. Maybe get your own act together and follow the rules that you set first before preaching others?
So what you are saying is.the rise of ukip and the brexit party,and their stance on immigration, is a completely different issue to the Tories taking a harder line on immigration.
They have no connection whatsoever,?
Here you are changing goal post again. Yet another question unrelated to the topic. Funny that you won't answer any questions other posters ask you.
I hate ukip. Tories taking harder line immigration is simply because the system cannot handle it.
What questions?
Every post your made above have questions that are unrelated to the original post you made. When we asked you questions, you answered that "you are asking questions instead of answering my questions".
I'll try again.
What questions?
"So reading the OP Lionel are you saying the government should not of condemned the racial abuse?"
Unanswered question.!
I'll concede I missed that one though I would have thought my point about them being hypocrites would have answered that question.
When you have a pm making insentive racial remarks,I'd say the condemnation was rather pointless.
You haven't actually answered the question.
You have only given YOUR slant on it.
A simple YES or NO would be sufficient.
No because its meaningless
In that case I have no doubt that if they hadn't condemned the racial abuse you would've started a thread complaining the government had said nothing.aw that is a given lol"Another epic contribution | |||
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The murder also happened when I was taking a dump. I guess that's also related because of butterfly effect.
Firstly, I thought liberals were supposed to be scientific and know the difference between correlation and causation. If you want to claim a connection between two events, the burden of evidence is on you. Just saying that it happened around the same time means nothing.
Secondly, as pointed out, you are the one who strays away from the topic in every post. Moving from immigration policy to taking the knee to daily mail. Now you moved from Tories to Farage when you warned everyone else not to bring in Corbyn in the first post. Maybe get your own act together and follow the rules that you set first before preaching others?
So what you are saying is.the rise of ukip and the brexit party,and their stance on immigration, is a completely different issue to the Tories taking a harder line on immigration.
They have no connection whatsoever,?
Here you are changing goal post again. Yet another question unrelated to the topic. Funny that you won't answer any questions other posters ask you.
I hate ukip. Tories taking harder line immigration is simply because the system cannot handle it.
What questions?
Every post your made above have questions that are unrelated to the original post you made. When we asked you questions, you answered that "you are asking questions instead of answering my questions".
I'll try again.
What questions?
"So reading the OP Lionel are you saying the government should not of condemned the racial abuse?"
Unanswered question.!
I'll concede I missed that one though I would have thought my point about them being hypocrites would have answered that question.
When you have a pm making insentive racial remarks,I'd say the condemnation was rather pointless.
You haven't actually answered the question.
You have only given YOUR slant on it.
A simple YES or NO would be sufficient.
No because its meaningless
In that case I have no doubt that if they hadn't condemned the racial abuse you would've started a thread complaining the government had said nothing.aw that is a given lol
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"Ffs I forgot I did ask you one lol how is the governments immigration policy racist ? Don’t go there- Lionel will want to educate you. Lionel, what is it you dislike - racist comments from a number of cunts that will always be cunts and occasionally crawl out and say cuntish things on social media, ( making it easy and free for some people to post with total anonymity was bound to cause problems) or anything our democratically elected government do and say? So you think there is a clear distinction between someone calling a player racist names on Twitter and someone saying muslim woman look like pillar boxes? https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/02/boris-johnsons-burqa-comments-led-to-surge-in-anti-muslim-attacks Completely unrelated events obvs." The only relation or link is they are comments from cunts! | |||
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"Ffs I forgot I did ask you one lol how is the governments immigration policy racist ? Don’t go there- Lionel will want to educate you. Lionel, what is it you dislike - racist comments from a number of cunts that will always be cunts and occasionally crawl out and say cuntish things on social media, ( making it easy and free for some people to post with total anonymity was bound to cause problems) or anything our democratically elected government do and say? So you think there is a clear distinction between someone calling a player racist names on Twitter and someone saying muslim woman look like pillar boxes? https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/02/boris-johnsons-burqa-comments-led-to-surge-in-anti-muslim-attacks Completely unrelated events obvs. The only relation or link is they are comments from cunts! " Right | |||
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"Plans for a reception for the players at no 10 have been shelved They don't need a reception. They didn't win anything
I'm fairly sure that's why it was cancelled
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"Plans for a reception for the players at no 10 have been shelved They don't need a reception. They didn't win anything
I'm fairly sure that's why it was cancelled
I would like to think all the players are away for a much needed rest/ holiday. Want them back fresh and rested for the new season that starts next month. Especially the Chelsea boys! "Nope There was plans at no 10 but it's been shelved for some reason. Maybe Alex was only interested if they would have won? Or perhaps some tension between priti and some of the players? | |||
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The murder also happened when I was taking a dump. I guess that's also related because of butterfly effect.
Firstly, I thought liberals were supposed to be scientific and know the difference between correlation and causation. If you want to claim a connection between two events, the burden of evidence is on you. Just saying that it happened around the same time means nothing.
Secondly, as pointed out, you are the one who strays away from the topic in every post. Moving from immigration policy to taking the knee to daily mail. Now you moved from Tories to Farage when you warned everyone else not to bring in Corbyn in the first post. Maybe get your own act together and follow the rules that you set first before preaching others?
So what you are saying is.the rise of ukip and the brexit party,and their stance on immigration, is a completely different issue to the Tories taking a harder line on immigration.
They have no connection whatsoever,?
Here you are changing goal post again. Yet another question unrelated to the topic. Funny that you won't answer any questions other posters ask you.
I hate ukip. Tories taking harder line immigration is simply because the system cannot handle it.
What questions?
Every post your made above have questions that are unrelated to the original post you made. When we asked you questions, you answered that "you are asking questions instead of answering my questions".
I'll try again.
What questions?
"So reading the OP Lionel are you saying the government should not of condemned the racial abuse?"
Unanswered question.!
I'll concede I missed that one though I would have thought my point about them being hypocrites would have answered that question.
When you have a pm making insentive racial remarks,I'd say the condemnation was rather pointless.
You haven't actually answered the question.
You have only given YOUR slant on it.
A simple YES or NO would be sufficient.
No because its meaningless
In that case I have no doubt that if they hadn't condemned the racial abuse you would've started a thread complaining the government had said nothing.aw that is a given lol
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"Plans for a reception for the players at no 10 have been shelved They don't need a reception. They didn't win anything
I'm fairly sure that's why it was cancelled
I would like to think all the players are away for a much needed rest/ holiday. Want them back fresh and rested for the new season that starts next month. Especially the Chelsea boys!
Nope
There was plans at no 10 but it's been shelved for some reason.
Maybe Alex was only interested if they would have won?
Or perhaps some tension between priti and some of the players?"what where the plans a second place party Lionel lol I think not | |||
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"So after getting racially abused on twitter and else where the gmnt have condemned the abuse. However considering this same gmnt has been found guilty of islamphobia and its leader has said some rather insensitive things in the past ,its been met with a healthy dose of cynicism. Indeed tyrone mings has called out that lovely ms patel on her hypocrisy over the 'tough on immigration stance Btw if anyone wants to discuss a former labour leader its probs best to start your own thread as we know how anti whataboutery everyone is on here "You title the thread "England and racism", yet in your very first post you try to stifle any criticism of a proven anti-Semitic, but want to encourage debate of someone guilty of Islamophobia? Why? Is racism against muslims any more less important to discuss than racism against Jews? You seem to believe it is. One of the key definitions of a racist is one who believes that one race is superior to another. I've said this before, and I'll keep saying it whilst you continue to prove it. You are a racist. It is a tragedy that you are unable to see this, and address it appropriately. | |||
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You title the thread "England and racism", yet in your very first post you try to stifle any criticism of a proven anti-Semitic, but want to encourage debate of someone guilty of Islamophobia? Why? Is racism against muslims any more less important to discuss than racism against Jews? You seem to believe it is. One of the key definitions of a racist is one who believes that one race is superior to another. I've said this before, and I'll keep saying it whilst you continue to prove it. You are a racist. It is a tragedy that you are unable to see this, and address it appropriately."I agree with you on this it’s funny how racism is seen on here by some they seem to think you can pick and choose racism is racism Muslim or Jew isn’t it ? | |||
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You title the thread "England and racism", yet in your very first post you try to stifle any criticism of a proven anti-Semitic, but want to encourage debate of someone guilty of Islamophobia? Why? Is racism against muslims any more less important to discuss than racism against Jews? You seem to believe it is. One of the key definitions of a racist is one who believes that one race is superior to another. I've said this before, and I'll keep saying it whilst you continue to prove it. You are a racist. It is a tragedy that you are unable to see this, and address it appropriately. I agree with you on this it’s funny how racism is seen on here by some they seem to think you can pick and choose racism is racism Muslim or Jew isn’t it ?"To be fair, a jew and muslim can be any race so it wouldn't be racist to discriminate against some by religion | |||
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"So after getting racially abused on twitter and else where the gmnt have condemned the abuse. However considering this same gmnt has been found guilty of islamphobia and its leader has said some rather insensitive things in the past ,its been met with a healthy dose of cynicism. Indeed tyrone mings has called out that lovely ms patel on her hypocrisy over the 'tough on immigration stance Btw if anyone wants to discuss a former labour leader its probs best to start your own thread as we know how anti whataboutery everyone is on here
You title the thread "England and racism", yet in your very first post you try to stifle any criticism of a proven anti-Semitic, but want to encourage debate of someone guilty of Islamophobia? Why? Is racism against muslims any more less important to discuss than racism against Jews? You seem to believe it is. One of the key definitions of a racist is one who believes that one race is superior to another. I've said this before, and I'll keep saying it whilst you continue to prove it. You are a racist. It is a tragedy that you are unable to see this, and address it appropriately. I agree with you on this it’s funny how racism is seen on here by some they seem to think you can pick and choose racism is racism Muslim or Jew isn’t it ?
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"So after getting racially abused on twitter and else where the gmnt have condemned the abuse. However considering this same gmnt has been found guilty of islamphobia and its leader has said some rather insensitive things in the past ,its been met with a healthy dose of cynicism. Indeed tyrone mings has called out that lovely ms patel on her hypocrisy over the 'tough on immigration stance Btw if anyone wants to discuss a former labour leader its probs best to start your own thread as we know how anti whataboutery everyone is on here
You title the thread "England and racism", yet in your very first post you try to stifle any criticism of a proven anti-Semitic, but want to encourage debate of someone guilty of Islamophobia? Why? Is racism against muslims any more less important to discuss than racism against Jews? You seem to believe it is. One of the key definitions of a racist is one who believes that one race is superior to another. I've said this before, and I'll keep saying it whilst you continue to prove it. You are a racist. It is a tragedy that you are unable to see this, and address it appropriately. I agree with you on this it’s funny how racism is seen on here by some they seem to think you can pick and choose racism is racism Muslim or Jew isn’t it ?
To be fair, a jew and muslim can be any race so it wouldn't be racist to discriminate against some by religion"Racism isn't just defined against a race any more. The first definition I found on Google was "prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized." The key phrase there is "ethnic group", which is further defined as "a community or population made up of people who share a common cultural background or descent". Both Judaism and Islam would "qualify" and are included under this definition. | |||
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"So after getting racially abused on twitter and else where the gmnt have condemned the abuse. However considering this same gmnt has been found guilty of islamphobia and its leader has said some rather insensitive things in the past ,its been met with a healthy dose of cynicism. Indeed tyrone mings has called out that lovely ms patel on her hypocrisy over the 'tough on immigration stance Btw if anyone wants to discuss a former labour leader its probs best to start your own thread as we know how anti whataboutery everyone is on here
You title the thread "England and racism", yet in your very first post you try to stifle any criticism of a proven anti-Semitic, but want to encourage debate of someone guilty of Islamophobia? Why? Is racism against muslims any more less important to discuss than racism against Jews? You seem to believe it is. One of the key definitions of a racist is one who believes that one race is superior to another. I've said this before, and I'll keep saying it whilst you continue to prove it. You are a racist. It is a tragedy that you are unable to see this, and address it appropriately."When you say proven anti semitic..I'm sure you have forgotten the last time you.made that claim and when asked to prove a shred of evidence you failed spectacularly but feel free to start a new thread on your fave subject | |||
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"So after getting racially abused on twitter and else where the gmnt have condemned the abuse. However considering this same gmnt has been found guilty of islamphobia and its leader has said some rather insensitive things in the past ,its been met with a healthy dose of cynicism. Indeed tyrone mings has called out that lovely ms patel on her hypocrisy over the 'tough on immigration stance Btw if anyone wants to discuss a former labour leader its probs best to start your own thread as we know how anti whataboutery everyone is on here
You title the thread "England and racism", yet in your very first post you try to stifle any criticism of a proven anti-Semitic, but want to encourage debate of someone guilty of Islamophobia? Why? Is racism against muslims any more less important to discuss than racism against Jews? You seem to believe it is. One of the key definitions of a racist is one who believes that one race is superior to another. I've said this before, and I'll keep saying it whilst you continue to prove it. You are a racist. It is a tragedy that you are unable to see this, and address it appropriately. I agree with you on this it’s funny how racism is seen on here by some they seem to think you can pick and choose racism is racism Muslim or Jew isn’t it ?
To be fair, a jew and muslim can be any race so it wouldn't be racist to discriminate against some by religion
Not saying it's right but people need to read the definition of racist/racism"Well according to your good self someone who makes sweeping generalisations about muslims and says he wouldnt want to live next to.someone from eastern Europe isnt a racist. | |||
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"So after getting racially abused on twitter and else where the gmnt have condemned the abuse. However considering this same gmnt has been found guilty of islamphobia and its leader has said some rather insensitive things in the past ,its been met with a healthy dose of cynicism. Indeed tyrone mings has called out that lovely ms patel on her hypocrisy over the 'tough on immigration stance Btw if anyone wants to discuss a former labour leader its probs best to start your own thread as we know how anti whataboutery everyone is on here
You title the thread "England and racism", yet in your very first post you try to stifle any criticism of a proven anti-Semitic, but want to encourage debate of someone guilty of Islamophobia? Why? Is racism against muslims any more less important to discuss than racism against Jews? You seem to believe it is. One of the key definitions of a racist is one who believes that one race is superior to another. I've said this before, and I'll keep saying it whilst you continue to prove it. You are a racist. It is a tragedy that you are unable to see this, and address it appropriately. I agree with you on this it’s funny how racism is seen on here by some they seem to think you can pick and choose racism is racism Muslim or Jew isn’t it ?"What do you agree with exactly foxy? | |||
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"Reminds me of a story in India. A popular actor was known for the style in which he holds cigarettes in his movies. Many youngsters adored him and followed his style. People started complaining about it and tried to force him to stop smoking in his movies. Is that really the actor's fault that people are smoking by seeing him? He was just doing his job. Just like that, controlling immigration is a government's job. You can't blame them for people becoming racist. Are you going to answer the jo Cox example? And no one is saying they are making people racist. What I am saying is racists are looking at a gmnt which clamps down on immigration, along with the daily bullshit in the mail,and they are saying..they believe what I do. Come on Lionel, you started this thread with 'Don't talk about Corbyn' and now you wanna bring Farage into it. Farage isn't in government just as Corbyn isn't so let's leave them both out of it as you first wished. I'm making the argument that gmnt policy on immigration gives legitimacy to racists. Farages stance on immigration was very much took up by the gmnt.how does it show some evidence Lionel what is wrong with the governments immigration policy exactly ???? Well for a start I dont think we are flooded with immigrants.I also think when they are housed,we should at least try not to breach their human rights. Does that answer your question?" FAO foxy as he seems to have no recollection of what he actually types now | |||
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"Anyway well done to mings and rashford for speaking out against the hypocrisy spewed out by Alex and co. The observer has done a how dare he?story today..so they deserve all the plaudits they get." The funny thing is that every person I have spoken to today on has started with the same 3 words He’s not wrong……….. The problem is that the politicians are telling the players why they are taking the knee….. when the players time and time again told you why they are taking the knee!! Who speaks for you… the person doing the actual action or the person who thinks they know you better than you! | |||
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"Anyway well done to mings and rashford for speaking out against the hypocrisy spewed out by Alex and co. The observer has done a how dare he?story today..so they deserve all the plaudits they get. The funny thing is that every person I have spoken to today on has started with the same 3 words He’s not wrong……….. The problem is that the politicians are telling the players why they are taking the knee….. when the players time and time again told you why they are taking the knee!! Who speaks for you… the person doing the actual action or the person who thinks they know you better than you! " Yet not 1 person on here has supported his stance but indulged in their favourite pastime of..but what about Corbyn? | |||
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"Anyway well done to mings and rashford for speaking out against the hypocrisy spewed out by Alex and co. The observer has done a how dare he?story today..so they deserve all the plaudits they get. The funny thing is that every person I have spoken to today on has started with the same 3 words He’s not wrong……….. The problem is that the politicians are telling the players why they are taking the knee….. when the players time and time again told you why they are taking the knee!! Who speaks for you… the person doing the actual action or the person who thinks they know you better than you! Yet not 1 person on here has supported his stance but indulged in their favourite pastime of..but what about Corbyn?" Didn’t read my post then. | |||
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"Anyway well done to mings and rashford for speaking out against the hypocrisy spewed out by Alex and co. The observer has done a how dare he?story today..so they deserve all the plaudits they get. The funny thing is that every person I have spoken to today on has started with the same 3 words He’s not wrong……….. The problem is that the politicians are telling the players why they are taking the knee….. when the players time and time again told you why they are taking the knee!! Who speaks for you… the person doing the actual action or the person who thinks they know you better than you! Yet not 1 person on here has supported his stance but indulged in their favourite pastime of..but what about Corbyn? Didn’t read my post then. " I posted yesterday what mings said. Not 1 person has come out and said he was right. | |||
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"Ffs I forgot I did ask you one lol how is the governments immigration policy racist ? Don’t go there- Lionel will want to educate you. Lionel, what is it you dislike - racist comments from a number of cunts that will always be cunts and occasionally crawl out and say cuntish things on social media, ( making it easy and free for some people to post with total anonymity was bound to cause problems) or anything our democratically elected government do and say? So you think there is a clear distinction between someone calling a player racist names on Twitter and someone saying muslim woman look like pillar boxes? https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/02/boris-johnsons-burqa-comments-led-to-surge-in-anti-muslim-attacks Completely unrelated events obvs." Only if people only read headlines, anyone with any sense would read the whole article to see the context by which the comment was written.I gather that you missed the fact he was defending the rights of women to wear the burka or are you taking a couple of words to make someone look racist? | |||
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"So after getting racially abused on twitter and else where the gmnt have condemned the abuse. However considering this same gmnt has been found guilty of islamphobia and its leader has said some rather insensitive things in the past ,its been met with a healthy dose of cynicism. Indeed tyrone mings has called out that lovely ms patel on her hypocrisy over the 'tough on immigration stance Btw if anyone wants to discuss a former labour leader its probs best to start your own thread as we know how anti whataboutery everyone is on here
You title the thread "England and racism", yet in your very first post you try to stifle any criticism of a proven anti-Semitic, but want to encourage debate of someone guilty of Islamophobia? Why? Is racism against muslims any more less important to discuss than racism against Jews? You seem to believe it is. One of the key definitions of a racist is one who believes that one race is superior to another. I've said this before, and I'll keep saying it whilst you continue to prove it. You are a racist. It is a tragedy that you are unable to see this, and address it appropriately.
When you say proven anti semitic..I'm sure you have forgotten the last time you.made that claim and when asked to prove a shred of evidence you failed spectacularly but feel free to start a new thread on your fave subject
"I notice that you failed to answer any of my questions in my post. Also, your denial of the findings of the ECHR is getting rather tiresome, more of your micro-aggressive racism. Here's an article for you to read:- https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/29/key-findings-of-the-ehrc-inquiry-into-labour-antisemitism You should also re-read the findings of the ECHR. | |||
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"So after getting racially abused on twitter and else where the gmnt have condemned the abuse. However considering this same gmnt has been found guilty of islamphobia and its leader has said some rather insensitive things in the past ,its been met with a healthy dose of cynicism. Indeed tyrone mings has called out that lovely ms patel on her hypocrisy over the 'tough on immigration stance Btw if anyone wants to discuss a former labour leader its probs best to start your own thread as we know how anti whataboutery everyone is on here
You title the thread "England and racism", yet in your very first post you try to stifle any criticism of a proven anti-Semitic, but want to encourage debate of someone guilty of Islamophobia? Why? Is racism against muslims any more less important to discuss than racism against Jews? You seem to believe it is. One of the key definitions of a racist is one who believes that one race is superior to another. I've said this before, and I'll keep saying it whilst you continue to prove it. You are a racist. It is a tragedy that you are unable to see this, and address it appropriately.
When you say proven anti semitic..I'm sure you have forgotten the last time you.made that claim and when asked to prove a shred of evidence you failed spectacularly but feel free to start a new thread on your fave subject
I notice that you failed to answer any of my questions in my post. Also, your denial of the findings of the ECHR is getting rather tiresome, more of your micro-aggressive racism. Here's an article for you to read:-
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/29/key-findings-of-the-ehrc-inquiry-into-labour-antisemitism
You should also re-read the findings of the ECHR.
"Nah your ok You shown yourself up last time and that was embarassing enough. I'll repeat one last time as you are clearly having trouble understanding. This thread is actually about english players receiving racist abuse. If you want to start a thread about past politicians be my guest. I may do one about Pitt the elder as its just as relevant. | |||
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You title the thread "England and racism", yet in your very first post you try to stifle any criticism of a proven anti-Semitic, but want to encourage debate of someone guilty of Islamophobia? Why? Is racism against muslims any more less important to discuss than racism against Jews? You seem to believe it is. One of the key definitions of a racist is one who believes that one race is superior to another. I've said this before, and I'll keep saying it whilst you continue to prove it. You are a racist. It is a tragedy that you are unable to see this, and address it appropriately.
When you say proven anti semitic..I'm sure you have forgotten the last time you.made that claim and when asked to prove a shred of evidence you failed spectacularly but feel free to start a new thread on your fave subject
I notice that you failed to answer any of my questions in my post. Also, your denial of the findings of the ECHR is getting rather tiresome, more of your micro-aggressive racism. Here's an article for you to read:-
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/29/key-findings-of-the-ehrc-inquiry-into-labour-antisemitism
You should also re-read the findings of the ECHR.
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You title the thread "England and racism", yet in your very first post you try to stifle any criticism of a proven anti-Semitic, but want to encourage debate of someone guilty of Islamophobia? Why? Is racism against muslims any more less important to discuss than racism against Jews? You seem to believe it is. One of the key definitions of a racist is one who believes that one race is superior to another. I've said this before, and I'll keep saying it whilst you continue to prove it. You are a racist. It is a tragedy that you are unable to see this, and address it appropriately.
When you say proven anti semitic..I'm sure you have forgotten the last time you.made that claim and when asked to prove a shred of evidence you failed spectacularly but feel free to start a new thread on your fave subject
I notice that you failed to answer any of my questions in my post. Also, your denial of the findings of the ECHR is getting rather tiresome, more of your micro-aggressive racism. Here's an article for you to read:-
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/29/key-findings-of-the-ehrc-inquiry-into-labour-antisemitism
You should also re-read the findings of the ECHR.
Nah your ok
You shown yourself up last time and that was embarassing enough.
I'll repeat one last time as you are clearly having trouble understanding.
This thread is actually about english players receiving racist abuse.
If you want to start a thread about past politicians be my guest.
I may do one about Pitt the elder as its just as relevant.
"You titled the post "England and racism", my posts are about an English racist. You do not get to dictate how a thread runs, ok? But if you want more about Corbyn's racism - how about these:- He is a known defender and ally of Stephen Sizer, a prolific poster of anti-Semitic material. He is a supporter of Paul Eisen, a Holocaust denier. He defended a mural that contained anti-Semitic themes. There are many more, but your refusal to accept their veracity where the ECHR did, is yet another micro-aggression. You need to stop. Labour are trying, you need to catch up. | |||
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You title the thread "England and racism", yet in your very first post you try to stifle any criticism of a proven anti-Semitic, but want to encourage debate of someone guilty of Islamophobia? Why? Is racism against muslims any more less important to discuss than racism against Jews? You seem to believe it is. One of the key definitions of a racist is one who believes that one race is superior to another. I've said this before, and I'll keep saying it whilst you continue to prove it. You are a racist. It is a tragedy that you are unable to see this, and address it appropriately.
When you say proven anti semitic..I'm sure you have forgotten the last time you.made that claim and when asked to prove a shred of evidence you failed spectacularly but feel free to start a new thread on your fave subject
I notice that you failed to answer any of my questions in my post. Also, your denial of the findings of the ECHR is getting rather tiresome, more of your micro-aggressive racism. Here's an article for you to read:-
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/29/key-findings-of-the-ehrc-inquiry-into-labour-antisemitism
You should also re-read the findings of the ECHR.
Nah your ok
You shown yourself up last time and that was embarassing enough.
I'll repeat one last time as you are clearly having trouble understanding.
This thread is actually about english players receiving racist abuse.
If you want to start a thread about past politicians be my guest.
I may do one about Pitt the elder as its just as relevant.
You titled the post "England and racism", my posts are about an English racist. You do not get to dictate how a thread runs, ok?
But if you want more about Corbyn's racism - how about these:-
He is a known defender and ally of Stephen Sizer, a prolific poster of anti-Semitic material. He is a supporter of Paul Eisen, a Holocaust denier. He defended a mural that contained anti-Semitic themes.
There are many more, but your refusal to accept their veracity where the ECHR did, is yet another micro-aggression. You need to stop. Labour are trying, you need to catch up." | |||
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"So after getting racially abused on twitter and else where the gmnt have condemned the abuse. However considering this same gmnt has been found guilty of islamphobia and its leader has said some rather insensitive things in the past ,its been met with a healthy dose of cynicism. Indeed tyrone mings has called out that lovely ms patel on her hypocrisy over the 'tough on immigration stance Btw if anyone wants to discuss a former labour leader its probs best to start your own thread as we know how anti whataboutery everyone is on here
You title the thread "England and racism", yet in your very first post you try to stifle any criticism of a proven anti-Semitic, but want to encourage debate of someone guilty of Islamophobia? Why? Is racism against muslims any more less important to discuss than racism against Jews? You seem to believe it is. One of the key definitions of a racist is one who believes that one race is superior to another. I've said this before, and I'll keep saying it whilst you continue to prove it. You are a racist. It is a tragedy that you are unable to see this, and address it appropriately.
When you say proven anti semitic..I'm sure you have forgotten the last time you.made that claim and when asked to prove a shred of evidence you failed spectacularly but feel free to start a new thread on your fave subject
I notice that you failed to answer any of my questions in my post. Also, your denial of the findings of the ECHR is getting rather tiresome, more of your micro-aggressive racism. Here's an article for you to read:-
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/29/key-findings-of-the-ehrc-inquiry-into-labour-antisemitism
You should also re-read the findings of the ECHR.
Nah your ok
You shown yourself up last time and that was embarassing enough.
I'll repeat one last time as you are clearly having trouble understanding.
This thread is actually about english players receiving racist abuse.
If you want to start a thread about past politicians be my guest.
I may do one about Pitt the elder as its just as relevant.
You titled the post "England and racism", my posts are about an English racist. You do not get to dictate how a thread runs, ok?
But if you want more about Corbyn's racism - how about these:-
He is a known defender and ally of Stephen Sizer, a prolific poster of anti-Semitic material. He is a supporter of Paul Eisen, a Holocaust denier. He defended a mural that contained anti-Semitic themes.
There are many more, but your refusal to accept their veracity where the ECHR did, is yet another micro-aggression. You need to stop. Labour are trying, you need to catch up.
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"So after getting racially abused on twitter and else where the gmnt have condemned the abuse. However considering this same gmnt has been found guilty of islamphobia and its leader has said some rather insensitive things in the past ,its been met with a healthy dose of cynicism. Indeed tyrone mings has called out that lovely ms patel on her hypocrisy over the 'tough on immigration stance Btw if anyone wants to discuss a former labour leader its probs best to start your own thread as we know how anti whataboutery everyone is on here
You title the thread "England and racism", yet in your very first post you try to stifle any criticism of a proven anti-Semitic, but want to encourage debate of someone guilty of Islamophobia? Why? Is racism against muslims any more less important to discuss than racism against Jews? You seem to believe it is. One of the key definitions of a racist is one who believes that one race is superior to another. I've said this before, and I'll keep saying it whilst you continue to prove it. You are a racist. It is a tragedy that you are unable to see this, and address it appropriately.
When you say proven anti semitic..I'm sure you have forgotten the last time you.made that claim and when asked to prove a shred of evidence you failed spectacularly but feel free to start a new thread on your fave subject
I notice that you failed to answer any of my questions in my post. Also, your denial of the findings of the ECHR is getting rather tiresome, more of your micro-aggressive racism. Here's an article for you to read:-
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/29/key-findings-of-the-ehrc-inquiry-into-labour-antisemitism
You should also re-read the findings of the ECHR.
Nah your ok
You shown yourself up last time and that was embarassing enough.
I'll repeat one last time as you are clearly having trouble understanding.
This thread is actually about english players receiving racist abuse.
If you want to start a thread about past politicians be my guest.
I may do one about Pitt the elder as its just as relevant.
You titled the post "England and racism", my posts are about an English racist. You do not get to dictate how a thread runs, ok?
But if you want more about Corbyn's racism - how about these:-
He is a known defender and ally of Stephen Sizer, a prolific poster of anti-Semitic material. He is a supporter of Paul Eisen, a Holocaust denier. He defended a mural that contained anti-Semitic themes.
There are many more, but your refusal to accept their veracity where the ECHR did, is yet another micro-aggression. You need to stop. Labour are trying, you need to catch up.
Predictable response." | |||
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