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"Good news coming out about a £100 million investment in electric vans in Elsmere port." Sterling stuff. Great News.   | |||
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"Seems all positive to me. https://news.sky.com/story/ellesmere-port-vauxhall-plants-future-secured-with-electric-vans-12349750" | |||
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"Seems all positive to me. https://news.sky.com/story/ellesmere-port-vauxhall-plants-future-secured-with-electric-vans-12349750" Does it require as many people and components to build a van as a car? | |||
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"Seems all positive to me. https://news.sky.com/story/ellesmere-port-vauxhall-plants-future-secured-with-electric-vans-12349750 Does it require as many people and components to build a van as a car?" "Ellesmere Port: Vauxhall plant's future secured with electric vehicle production All-electric ***** cars *****and vans are to be built at the factory, safeguarding thousands of jobs in the local supply chain." | |||
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"Seems all positive to me. https://news.sky.com/story/ellesmere-port-vauxhall-plants-future-secured-with-electric-vans-12349750 Does it require as many people and components to build a van as a car? "Ellesmere Port: Vauxhall plant's future secured with electric vehicle production All-electric ***** cars *****and vans are to be built at the factory, safeguarding thousands of jobs in the local supply chain." " Excellent news. Must have been tense in that area waiting to hear the decision so great to hear its finally done | |||
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"The plant will produce the Vauxhall eCombo, the Peugot ePartner and the Citreon eBerlingo, as well as their equivalent MPV versions. Production will be for both UK and European markets " 'Vauxhall owner Stellantis has announced that it will invest £100m to build ***** electric cars and vans **** at Ellesmere Port, in Cheshire, in a move that will make it the first large plant in the UK dedicated exclusively to electric vehicles.' | |||
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"30 million support package from the government too" I may be wrong but I think that’s included in the £100m according the beeb! | |||
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"The plant will produce the Vauxhall eCombo, the Peugot ePartner and the Citreon eBerlingo, as well as their equivalent MPV versions. Production will be for both UK and European markets " Yes seems we done them a disservice saying just vans as turns out it will be cars too so even better | |||
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"The plant will produce the Vauxhall eCombo, the Peugot ePartner and the Citreon eBerlingo, as well as their equivalent MPV versions. Production will be for both UK and European markets 'Vauxhall owner Stellantis has announced that it will invest £100m to build ***** electric cars and vans **** at Ellesmere Port, in Cheshire, in a move that will make it the first large plant in the UK dedicated exclusively to electric vehicles.'" Correct. The passenger version of the vans, which are a bit niche. Best to check the Stellantis site for the full wording. Slippery buggers, these multinationals. Remember the promises about Ford and Cadbury? A crafted press release, however, always a chance that a dedicated passenger car line will come at some point in the future. I am pleased that they are staying and keeping thi gs the same at least. | |||
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"Fantastic news. The Remainers will be very angry" I voted remain and I'm very pleased. What does that mean?  | |||
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"30 million support package from the government too" The 30 million support package was the sweetener for the investment from Stellantis. Not that any other country would do differently given the circumstances, but we seem to be paying a little over the odds. | |||
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"Fantastic news. The Remainers will be very angry I voted remain and I'm very pleased. What does that mean? "Maybe you're now realising that Remain's Project Fear was BS | |||
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"Fantastic news. The Remainers will be very angry I voted remain and I'm very pleased. What does that mean?
Maybe you're now realising that Remain's Project Fear was BS"Nope. Did we do a deal on automotive? Yes, so no expectation of the automotive industry immediately shutting up shop. Are we having to pay massive subsidies to maintain the status quo? Yes, the car companies are in a very strong negotiating position. Is this Government ever going to allow a factory shut down? They will pay any price to avoid news like that. I'd rather we could spend that money on something else, but better that than see the loss of skills and jobs. So very happy for that. | |||
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"Fantastic news. The Remainers will be very angry I voted remain and I'm very pleased. What does that mean?
Maybe you're now realising that Remain's Project Fear was BS"You do know our contribution to the EU was £9Billion I’m sure. Did you know we’ve lost £11Billion in tax take from bank funding moving. We are now aware we have lost a further £18 Billion in tax take from the 2 million EU workers going home. Add the costs of transport increases and customs which runs into countless billions. So it’s great for Ellesmere the government are chipping in £30k per employee and I’m pleased for the workers .as I am for Nissan workers. To say remainers are angry about this . .. are you having a laugh??? | |||
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"Fantastic news. The Remainers will be very angry I voted remain and I'm very pleased. What does that mean?
Maybe you're now realising that Remain's Project Fear was BS
You do know our contribution to the EU was £9Billion I’m sure.
Did you know we’ve lost £11Billion in tax take from bank funding moving.
We are now aware we have lost a further £18 Billion in tax take from the 2 million EU workers going home. Add the costs of transport increases and customs which runs into countless billions.
So it’s great for Ellesmere the government are chipping in £30k per employee and I’m pleased for the workers .as I am for Nissan workers. To say remainers are angry about this . .. are you having a laugh??? "Apparently something that would have happened if we would have stayed in the eu anyway, is now a Brexit bonus. And all the other stuff. Northern Ireland, shortages,going back on deals..hasn't actually happened. Who would have thought it? | |||
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"Fantastic news. The Remainers will be very angry I voted remain and I'm very pleased. What does that mean?
Maybe you're now realising that Remain's Project Fear was BS
You do know our contribution to the EU was £9Billion I’m sure.
Did you know we’ve lost £11Billion in tax take from bank funding moving.
We are now aware we have lost a further £18 Billion in tax take from the 2 million EU workers going home. Add the costs of transport increases and customs which runs into countless billions.
So it’s great for Ellesmere the government are chipping in £30k per employee and I’m pleased for the workers .as I am for Nissan workers. To say remainers are angry about this . .. are you having a laugh???
Apparently something that would have happened if we would have stayed in the eu anyway, is now a Brexit bonus.
And all the other stuff.
Northern Ireland, shortages,going back on deals..hasn't actually happened.
Who would have thought it?"There was an ominous comment about battery production. The parent of Vauxhall are building on the continent with options on a third plant in Italy. Not sure if that’s to get Boris and co to cough up more cash later but I’m sure the shareholders are delighted by the handout as much as the workers. | |||
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"Fantastic news. The Remainers will be very angry I voted remain and I'm very pleased. What does that mean?
Maybe you're now realising that Remain's Project Fear was BS
You do know our contribution to the EU was £9Billion I’m sure.
Did you know we’ve lost £11Billion in tax take from bank funding moving.
We are now aware we have lost a further £18 Billion in tax take from the 2 million EU workers going home. Add the costs of transport increases and customs which runs into countless billions.
So it’s great for Ellesmere the government are chipping in £30k per employee and I’m pleased for the workers .as I am for Nissan workers. To say remainers are angry about this . .. are you having a laugh??? "The Remainers were all hoping that car factories would close. Their glee is plain to see whenever they think there will be job losses | |||
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"Fantastic news. The Remainers will be very angry I voted remain and I'm very pleased. What does that mean?
Maybe you're now realising that Remain's Project Fear was BS
You do know our contribution to the EU was £9Billion I’m sure.
Did you know we’ve lost £11Billion in tax take from bank funding moving.
We are now aware we have lost a further £18 Billion in tax take from the 2 million EU workers going home. Add the costs of transport increases and customs which runs into countless billions.
So it’s great for Ellesmere the government are chipping in £30k per employee and I’m pleased for the workers .as I am for Nissan workers. To say remainers are angry about this . .. are you having a laugh???
Apparently something that would have happened if we would have stayed in the eu anyway, is now a Brexit bonus.
And all the other stuff.
Northern Ireland, shortages,going back on deals..hasn't actually happened.
Who would have thought it?
There was an ominous comment about battery production. The parent of Vauxhall are building on the continent with options on a third plant in Italy.
Not sure if that’s to get Boris and co to cough up more cash later but I’m sure the shareholders are delighted by the handout as much as the workers. "It's still rather desperate to.celebtrate something which would have happened anyway Suppose they have to cling onto something though | |||
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"Fantastic news. The Remainers will be very angry I voted remain and I'm very pleased. What does that mean?
Maybe you're now realising that Remain's Project Fear was BS
You do know our contribution to the EU was £9Billion I’m sure.
Did you know we’ve lost £11Billion in tax take from bank funding moving.
We are now aware we have lost a further £18 Billion in tax take from the 2 million EU workers going home. Add the costs of transport increases and customs which runs into countless billions.
So it’s great for Ellesmere the government are chipping in £30k per employee and I’m pleased for the workers .as I am for Nissan workers. To say remainers are angry about this . .. are you having a laugh???
Apparently something that would have happened if we would have stayed in the eu anyway, is now a Brexit bonus.
And all the other stuff.
Northern Ireland, shortages,going back on deals..hasn't actually happened.
Who would have thought it?
There was an ominous comment about battery production. The parent of Vauxhall are building on the continent with options on a third plant in Italy.
Not sure if that’s to get Boris and co to cough up more cash later but I’m sure the shareholders are delighted by the handout as much as the workers.
It's still rather desperate to.celebtrate something which would have happened anyway
Suppose they have to cling onto something though
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"Fantastic news. The Remainers will be very angry I voted remain and I'm very pleased. What does that mean?
Maybe you're now realising that Remain's Project Fear was BS
You do know our contribution to the EU was £9Billion I’m sure.
Did you know we’ve lost £11Billion in tax take from bank funding moving.
We are now aware we have lost a further £18 Billion in tax take from the 2 million EU workers going home. Add the costs of transport increases and customs which runs into countless billions.
So it’s great for Ellesmere the government are chipping in £30k per employee and I’m pleased for the workers .as I am for Nissan workers. To say remainers are angry about this . .. are you having a laugh???
Apparently something that would have happened if we would have stayed in the eu anyway, is now a Brexit bonus.
And all the other stuff.
Northern Ireland, shortages,going back on deals..hasn't actually happened.
Who would have thought it?
There was an ominous comment about battery production. The parent of Vauxhall are building on the continent with options on a third plant in Italy.
Not sure if that’s to get Boris and co to cough up more cash later but I’m sure the shareholders are delighted by the handout as much as the workers. "Initially, the battery packs are coming from Germany and France but as production evolves, it makes sense to have (like Nissan), a complete manufacturing hub. Lets wait and see on this one. | |||
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"Good news coming out about a £100 million investment in electric vans in Elsmere port." Very good news. They have faced some difficult times but moving forward again now. Having their own battery plant will also be good or use one of the ones already forecast to open in the UK. I assume like Nissan the same percentage of local parts being used will be needed | |||
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"Fantastic news. The Remainers will be very angry I voted remain and I'm very pleased. What does that mean?
Maybe you're now realising that Remain's Project Fear was BS
You do know our contribution to the EU was £9Billion I’m sure.
Did you know we’ve lost £11Billion in tax take from bank funding moving.
We are now aware we have lost a further £18 Billion in tax take from the 2 million EU workers going home. Add the costs of transport increases and customs which runs into countless billions.
So it’s great for Ellesmere the government are chipping in £30k per employee and I’m pleased for the workers .as I am for Nissan workers. To say remainers are angry about this . .. are you having a laugh???
The Remainers were all hoping that car factories would close.
Their glee is plain to see whenever they think there will be job losses"Do you know how ridiculous that sounds?. We were hoping factories would shut. Jesus I now know why I am not on the forums quite so often. You need to widen your horizons a little. It’s precisely that we didn’t want the fishermen to lose their jobs or the border in the Irish Sea or the increase in costs or the loss of good workers or the government to have to bribe the car producers that we didn’t want Brexit. If you’ve got nothing but drivel to spout you really should stop posting! | |||
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"Fantastic news. The Remainers will be very angry I voted remain and I'm very pleased. What does that mean?
Maybe you're now realising that Remain's Project Fear was BS
You do know our contribution to the EU was £9Billion I’m sure.
Did you know we’ve lost £11Billion in tax take from bank funding moving.
We are now aware we have lost a further £18 Billion in tax take from the 2 million EU workers going home. Add the costs of transport increases and customs which runs into countless billions.
So it’s great for Ellesmere the government are chipping in £30k per employee and I’m pleased for the workers .as I am for Nissan workers. To say remainers are angry about this . .. are you having a laugh???
Apparently something that would have happened if we would have stayed in the eu anyway, is now a Brexit bonus.
And all the other stuff.
Northern Ireland, shortages,going back on deals..hasn't actually happened.
Who would have thought it?
There was an ominous comment about battery production. The parent of Vauxhall are building on the continent with options on a third plant in Italy.
Not sure if that’s to get Boris and co to cough up more cash later but I’m sure the shareholders are delighted by the handout as much as the workers.
Initially, the battery packs are coming from Germany and France but as production evolves, it makes sense to have (like Nissan), a complete manufacturing hub.
Lets wait and see on this one. "Yes I saw that. it was the Italy hint he put in that bothered me. Let’s hope they chose the U.K. | |||
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"Good news coming out about a £100 million investment in electric vans in Elsmere port. Very good news. They have faced some difficult times but moving forward again now. Having their own battery plant will also be good or use one of the ones already forecast to open in the UK. I assume like Nissan the same percentage of local parts being used will be needed" The automotive trade deal only requires parts to be sourced in the EU. If Stellantis do not use batteries sourced in the UK, then Elsmere Port will be the first in the frame if a factory is closed. Electeic van production could be relatively short term. There will be a big ramp up to 2035 where a lot of vehicles need to be replaced, but then there will be a drop down to more normal production levels. Hopefully the UK is not being used as a surge buffer. You absolutely have to watch battery production as that will be the best guarantee of matched vehicle production. | |||
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"Fantastic news. The Remainers will be very angry I voted remain and I'm very pleased. What does that mean?
Maybe you're now realising that Remain's Project Fear was BS
You do know our contribution to the EU was £9Billion I’m sure.
Did you know we’ve lost £11Billion in tax take from bank funding moving.
We are now aware we have lost a further £18 Billion in tax take from the 2 million EU workers going home. Add the costs of transport increases and customs which runs into countless billions.
So it’s great for Ellesmere the government are chipping in £30k per employee and I’m pleased for the workers .as I am for Nissan workers. To say remainers are angry about this . .. are you having a laugh???
The Remainers were all hoping that car factories would close.
Their glee is plain to see whenever they think there will be job losses
Do you know how ridiculous that sounds?. We were hoping factories would shut. Jesus I now know why I am not on the forums quite so often.
You need to widen your horizons a little. It’s precisely that we didn’t want the fishermen to lose their jobs or the border in the Irish Sea or the increase in costs or the loss of good workers or the government to have to bribe the car producers that we didn’t want Brexit. If you’ve got nothing but drivel to spout you really should stop posting!
"Look back on these fora if you don't think the Remainers get gleeful at the thought of job losses. Not a good look | |||
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"30 million support package from the government too The 30 million support package was the sweetener for the investment from Stellantis. Not that any other country would do differently given the circumstances, but we seem to be paying a little over the odds." The 30 million was part of our commitment to fund projects that directly affect Climate Change. Qualify how we are paying over the odds? | |||
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"Good news coming out about a £100 million investment in electric vans in Elsmere port. Very good news. They have faced some difficult times but moving forward again now. Having their own battery plant will also be good or use one of the ones already forecast to open in the UK. I assume like Nissan the same percentage of local parts being used will be needed The automotive trade deal only requires parts to be sourced in the EU. If Stellantis do not use batteries sourced in the UK, then Elsmere Port will be the first in the frame if a factory is closed. Electeic van production could be relatively short term. There will be a big ramp up to 2035 where a lot of vehicles need to be replaced, but then there will be a drop down to more normal production levels. Hopefully the UK is not being used as a surge buffer. You absolutely have to watch battery production as that will be the best guarantee of matched vehicle production." Agreed on the battery production as if the uk does not produce it’s own batteries it’s on the road to nowhere! | |||
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" Agreed on the battery production as if the uk does not produce it’s own batteries it’s on the road to nowhere!" Britishvolt, has already decided on the first battery Gigafactory in Blyth, Northumberland - due to begin battery production in Summer 2023. The second Britishvolt, Gigafactory is a joint plan between Coventry City Council and Coventry airport. Planned to open in 2025 Nissan already have theirs alongside the Nissan Plant in Sunderland. | |||
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"Good news coming out about a £100 million investment in electric vans in Elsmere port. Very good news. They have faced some difficult times but moving forward again now. Having their own battery plant will also be good or use one of the ones already forecast to open in the UK. I assume like Nissan the same percentage of local parts being used will be needed The automotive trade deal only requires parts to be sourced in the EU. If Stellantis do not use batteries sourced in the UK, then Elsmere Port will be the first in the frame if a factory is closed. Electeic van production could be relatively short term. There will be a big ramp up to 2035 where a lot of vehicles need to be replaced, but then there will be a drop down to more normal production levels. Hopefully the UK is not being used as a surge buffer. You absolutely have to watch battery production as that will be the best guarantee of matched vehicle production." The bit I read (when reading about Nissan) said a certain amount had to be sourced in the UK or EU not just the EU. Maybe I misunderstood but thought that was one of the reasons for the batteries being made in the UK | |||
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"Good news coming out about a £100 million investment in electric vans in Elsmere port. Very good news. They have faced some difficult times but moving forward again now. Having their own battery plant will also be good or use one of the ones already forecast to open in the UK. I assume like Nissan the same percentage of local parts being used will be needed The automotive trade deal only requires parts to be sourced in the EU. If Stellantis do not use batteries sourced in the UK, then Elsmere Port will be the first in the frame if a factory is closed. Electeic van production could be relatively short term. There will be a big ramp up to 2035 where a lot of vehicles need to be replaced, but then there will be a drop down to more normal production levels. Hopefully the UK is not being used as a surge buffer. You absolutely have to watch battery production as that will be the best guarantee of matched vehicle production. The bit I read (when reading about Nissan) said a certain amount had to be sourced in the UK or EU not just the EU. Maybe I misunderstood but thought that was one of the reasons for the batteries being made in the UK" Can be built in UK or EU, so batteries from the EU are fine for re-export to the EU in a car. However, if all of the batteries in the UK are imported from the EU, another downturn will put UK car factories at risk because they are big, expensive components to transport around. | |||
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"30 million support package from the government too The 30 million support package was the sweetener for the investment from Stellantis. Not that any other country would do differently given the circumstances, but we seem to be paying a little over the odds. The 30 million was part of our commitment to fund projects that directly affect Climate Change. Qualify how we are paying over the odds? " I don't know where you got your information from https://www.ft.com/content/5af0951f-e8e0-4659-bdca-f72380fb881b "ministers agreed to about £30m of financial support for the Stellantis investment, people briefed on the discussions said." That's 30% of the £100m investment to keep an existing plant open. https://www.ft.com/content/3c1c4572-c7c0-11e8-ba8f-ee390057b8c9 JLR invested 1.4bn Euro in their brand new plant in Slovakia and received a 125m Euro subsidy. That's 9% of a much more substantial outcome. | |||
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"30 million support package from the government too The 30 million support package was the sweetener for the investment from Stellantis. Not that any other country would do differently given the circumstances, but we seem to be paying a little over the odds. The 30 million was part of our commitment to fund projects that directly affect Climate Change. Qualify how we are paying over the odds? I don't know where you got your information from https://www.ft.com/content/5af0951f-e8e0-4659-bdca-f72380fb881b "ministers agreed to about £30m of financial support for the Stellantis investment, people briefed on the discussions said." That's 30% of the £100m investment to keep an existing plant open. https://www.ft.com/content/3c1c4572-c7c0-11e8-ba8f-ee390057b8c9 JLR invested 1.4bn Euro in their brand new plant in Slovakia and received a 125m Euro subsidy. That's 9% of a much more substantial outcome." JLR's subsidy was the maximum that was allowed under EU rules. They may or may not have asked for more, we'll never know. | |||
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"The whole enforced move to electric cars worries me. How many people can afford them? A lot of people haven't yet realised that their cars will become redundant. They are trying to price people off the roads. We will go back in time to when few people could afford to drive. It's a huge mistake" They aren't trying to price people off the roads, its just too big a tax take for them. But there are issues coming up that will need addressing. Imagine an 18yo just passing their test. They normally go out and buy a cheap car, say a 15yo Fiesta for £800. That option won't be available to them in the future. The cheapest new electric car is around £25k. We have no idea what the second hand market will be. If the price of refurbishing a battery, or the scrap value of it is excessive, then it may not even exist. We are going to have years of readjustment to our attitude to driving. | |||
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"The whole enforced move to electric cars worries me. How many people can afford them? A lot of people haven't yet realised that their cars will become redundant. They are trying to price people off the roads. We will go back in time to when few people could afford to drive. It's a huge mistake They aren't trying to price people off the roads, its just too big a tax take for them. But there are issues coming up that will need addressing. Imagine an 18yo just passing their test. They normally go out and buy a cheap car, say a 15yo Fiesta for £800. That option won't be available to them in the future. The cheapest new electric car is around £25k. We have no idea what the second hand market will be. If the price of refurbishing a battery, or the scrap value of it is excessive, then it may not even exist. We are going to have years of readjustment to our attitude to driving. " Has any Government mentioned when petrol or diesel will not be allowed on the roads yet? I have stickers on my screen for driving in cities in Europe as proof of compliance for a car (petrol) and a LWB Trafic (diesel). I think in the interim local councils will see this as a bit of a cash cow. Which will build resentment in the drivers of the world. But as, yet, I can't find when they will be actually banned from the roads? | |||
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"The whole enforced move to electric cars worries me. How many people can afford them? A lot of people haven't yet realised that their cars will become redundant. They are trying to price people off the roads. We will go back in time to when few people could afford to drive. It's a huge mistake" The new way of buying cars is the lease model.  | |||
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"The whole enforced move to electric cars worries me. How many people can afford them? A lot of people haven't yet realised that their cars will become redundant. They are trying to price people off the roads. We will go back in time to when few people could afford to drive. It's a huge mistake They aren't trying to price people off the roads, its just too big a tax take for them. But there are issues coming up that will need addressing. Imagine an 18yo just passing their test. They normally go out and buy a cheap car, say a 15yo Fiesta for £800. That option won't be available to them in the future. The cheapest new electric car is around £25k. We have no idea what the second hand market will be. If the price of refurbishing a battery, or the scrap value of it is excessive, then it may not even exist. We are going to have years of readjustment to our attitude to driving. Has any Government mentioned when petrol or diesel will not be allowed on the roads yet? I have stickers on my screen for driving in cities in Europe as proof of compliance for a car (petrol) and a LWB Trafic (diesel). I think in the interim local councils will see this as a bit of a cash cow. Which will build resentment in the drivers of the world. But as, yet, I can't find when they will be actually banned from the roads?" I'm not sure what will happen. I suppose that petrol stations will start to get phased out. Which leads us into whats going to happen to all those classic cars. Lots and lots of details to be sorted yet! | |||
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"The whole enforced move to electric cars worries me. How many people can afford them? A lot of people haven't yet realised that their cars will become redundant. They are trying to price people off the roads. We will go back in time to when few people could afford to drive. It's a huge mistake They aren't trying to price people off the roads, its just too big a tax take for them. But there are issues coming up that will need addressing. Imagine an 18yo just passing their test. They normally go out and buy a cheap car, say a 15yo Fiesta for £800. That option won't be available to them in the future. The cheapest new electric car is around £25k. We have no idea what the second hand market will be. If the price of refurbishing a battery, or the scrap value of it is excessive, then it may not even exist. We are going to have years of readjustment to our attitude to driving. Has any Government mentioned when petrol or diesel will not be allowed on the roads yet? I have stickers on my screen for driving in cities in Europe as proof of compliance for a car (petrol) and a LWB Trafic (diesel). I think in the interim local councils will see this as a bit of a cash cow. Which will build resentment in the drivers of the world. But as, yet, I can't find when they will be actually banned from the roads? I'm not sure what will happen. I suppose that petrol stations will start to get phased out. Which leads us into whats going to happen to all those classic cars. Lots and lots of details to be sorted yet! " I had a bike converted to electric - maybe a whole cottage industry of electric conversions will be the future. | |||
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"The whole enforced move to electric cars worries me. How many people can afford them? A lot of people haven't yet realised that their cars will become redundant. They are trying to price people off the roads. We will go back in time to when few people could afford to drive. It's a huge mistake They aren't trying to price people off the roads, its just too big a tax take for them. But there are issues coming up that will need addressing. Imagine an 18yo just passing their test. They normally go out and buy a cheap car, say a 15yo Fiesta for £800. That option won't be available to them in the future. The cheapest new electric car is around £25k. We have no idea what the second hand market will be. If the price of refurbishing a battery, or the scrap value of it is excessive, then it may not even exist. We are going to have years of readjustment to our attitude to driving. Has any Government mentioned when petrol or diesel will not be allowed on the roads yet? I have stickers on my screen for driving in cities in Europe as proof of compliance for a car (petrol) and a LWB Trafic (diesel). I think in the interim local councils will see this as a bit of a cash cow. Which will build resentment in the drivers of the world. But as, yet, I can't find when they will be actually banned from the roads?" 2030. From then you won't be able to buy a petrol car. You'll be able to keep existing cars on the road but the government will make them uneconomic...petrol tax, road tax etc | |||
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"Good news coming out about a £100 million investment in electric vans in Elsmere port. Very good news. They have faced some difficult times but moving forward again now. Having their own battery plant will also be good or use one of the ones already forecast to open in the UK. I assume like Nissan the same percentage of local parts being used will be needed The automotive trade deal only requires parts to be sourced in the EU. If Stellantis do not use batteries sourced in the UK, then Elsmere Port will be the first in the frame if a factory is closed. Electeic van production could be relatively short term. There will be a big ramp up to 2035 where a lot of vehicles need to be replaced, but then there will be a drop down to more normal production levels. Hopefully the UK is not being used as a surge buffer. You absolutely have to watch battery production as that will be the best guarantee of matched vehicle production. The bit I read (when reading about Nissan) said a certain amount had to be sourced in the UK or EU not just the EU. Maybe I misunderstood but thought that was one of the reasons for the batteries being made in the UK Can be built in UK or EU, so batteries from the EU are fine for re-export to the EU in a car. However, if all of the batteries in the UK are imported from the EU, another downturn will put UK car factories at risk because they are big, expensive components to transport around." Cool so it is UK and EU components as opposed to just EU. The importing batteries could become a problem as you say so even more reason to build them locally | |||
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" Cool so it is UK and EU components as opposed to just EU. The importing batteries could become a problem as you say so even more reason to build them locally" Yes. The final Brexit deal made sure of that. Also, no import and export tariffs to the EU and vis versa. | |||
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