FabSwingers.com forum: Afghanistan Endgame

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Fooking hell, what a disaster, the taliban advancing and getting hold of brand new American weapons vrhicles equipment, govt troops in retreat, it looks like Vietnam war all over again.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

New terrorist groups, loads of American weapons and equipment, the world is a more dangerous place thanks to American ignorant foreign policy meddling

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Fooking hell, what a disaster, the taliban advancing and getting hold of brand new American weapons vrhicles equipment, govt troops in retreat, it looks like Vietnam war all over again. "

Typical yanks, all the gear and no idea,

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

Bit of luck they learn the lessons and leave all that area to themselves no matter what

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Fooking hell, what a disaster, the taliban advancing and getting hold of brand new American weapons vrhicles equipment, govt troops in retreat, it looks like Vietnam war all over again.

Typical yanks, all the gear and no idea, "

Afgan security forces vehicles they are our antiquated equipment. The JTLV is our new troop vehicle.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"Bit of luck they learn the lessons and leave all that area to themselves no matter what "

The area won't leave us though.

Heroine, regional instability and terrorism.

Imposing a European solution has never worked. Something working with the grain of that society might.

Diplomacy and patience. Not something the news and election cycle lends itself to.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Bit of luck they learn the lessons and leave all that area to themselves no matter what "

Yep they certainly learnt their lesson from Vietnam

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bit of luck they learn the lessons and leave all that area to themselves no matter what

Yep they certainly learnt their lesson from Vietnam "

Yup China's turn.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Bit of luck they learn the lessons and leave all that area to themselves no matter what

Yep they certainly learnt their lesson from Vietnam

Yup China's turn."

Have they started many pointless wars?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bit of luck they learn the lessons and leave all that area to themselves no matter what

Yep they certainly learnt their lesson from Vietnam

Yup China's turn.

Have they started many pointless wars?"

You do know the Chinese are operating in Afghanistan. Like I said it is their turn.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bit of luck they learn the lessons and leave all that area to themselves no matter what

Yep they certainly learnt their lesson from Vietnam

Yup China's turn.

Have they started many pointless wars?

You do know the Chinese are operating in Afghanistan. Like I said it is their turn."

They want afganistan for their road and belt initiative.Their turn to deal with the locals

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By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS
over a year ago

Notts

im keen to see chinas approach, i think war has become pointless because its become politically correct, will the Chinese just kill everyone and i mean everyone and fill it with Chinese? they just might do it and say fuck the west, we dont fucking care what you think? we like building empires lol and will anyone go to war with china over Afghanistan? i doubt it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"im keen to see chinas approach, i think war has become pointless because its become politically correct, will the Chinese just kill everyone and i mean everyone and fill it with Chinese? they just might do it and say fuck the west, we dont fucking care what you think? we like building empires lol and will anyone go to war with china over Afghanistan? i doubt it. "
. Idk it's a valid point. They want afganistan they are there. The only reason they did not pursue any interest is because the US has been busy with afganistan. Now the focal point has shifted. No more afganistan for us. Focus on china and Russia influence. They loved us bogged down there took the focus off them. China's turn.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Heck of a car boot sale they got going on right now after they had a right old pilfer.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-57682290

At least they left with their heads held high.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"Bit of luck they learn the lessons and leave all that area to themselves no matter what

Yep they certainly learnt their lesson from Vietnam "
exactly leave the region to look after themselves wonder what will happen then eh ?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Bit of luck they learn the lessons and leave all that area to themselves no matter what

Yep they certainly learnt their lesson from Vietnam exactly leave the region to look after themselves wonder what will happen then eh ?"

So you have completely contradicted your own argument?

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"Bit of luck they learn the lessons and leave all that area to themselves no matter what

Yep they certainly learnt their lesson from Vietnam exactly leave the region to look after themselves wonder what will happen then eh ?

So you have completely contradicted your own argument?"
how ?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Bit of luck they learn the lessons and leave all that area to themselves no matter what

Yep they certainly learnt their lesson from Vietnam exactly leave the region to look after themselves wonder what will happen then eh ?

So you have completely contradicted your own argument?how ?"

You said they should leave other countries alone..you.now appear to be suggesting the opposite?

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"Bit of luck they learn the lessons and leave all that area to themselves no matter what

Yep they certainly learnt their lesson from Vietnam exactly leave the region to look after themselves wonder what will happen then eh ?

So you have completely contradicted your own argument?how ?

You said they should leave other countries alone..you.now appear to be suggesting the opposite?"
iv put two posts up saying leave it alone so how have you come to that Lionel lol

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Bit of luck they learn the lessons and leave all that area to themselves no matter what

Yep they certainly learnt their lesson from Vietnam exactly leave the region to look after themselves wonder what will happen then eh ?

So you have completely contradicted your own argument?how ?

You said they should leave other countries alone..you.now appear to be suggesting the opposite? iv put two posts up saying leave it alone so how have you come to that Lionel lol"

Apologies

I thought when you said..what will happen then?you were implying they couldnt look after their own affairs.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

What's in Afghanistan that the Chinese want?

They generally prefer stability unless they are sabre rattling in the South China Sea as a distraction for their population.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"Bit of luck they learn the lessons and leave all that area to themselves no matter what

Yep they certainly learnt their lesson from Vietnam exactly leave the region to look after themselves wonder what will happen then eh ?

So you have completely contradicted your own argument?how ?

You said they should leave other countries alone..you.now appear to be suggesting the opposite? iv put two posts up saying leave it alone so how have you come to that Lionel lol

Apologies

I thought when you said..what will happen then?you were implying they couldnt look after their own affairs. "
no no I do think they would struggle to look after themselves they have the taliban to put up with but they should just leave it alone now if there’s ever going to be peace it will be themselves who will do it not the west for sure

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-57682290

At least they left with their heads held high."

We own the night why risk a confrontation leaving during the day. Good decision on the commanders. Don't want to give Intel away on the exit strategy.

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

The whole area of North Africa & Middle East with a few oil rich exceptions is a disaster. Hence desperate people risking their lives to reach Europe for a better life. An understandable human desire. The Chinese have sucked all the low paid manufacturing jobs east. It’s sad when you see young black guys around the Mediterranean trying to sell fake shit made in China!

The answer? A European super force to go in and occupy all the good bits, mainly coastal , with a modern equivalent Marshall plan to rebuild. Turn it into a European playground.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

Ive posted this before but I remember reading somewhere the reason they wouldnt give bin laden up was in their culture, their word means everything.

So even though they came under immense pressure from the states, they refused to give him up as they had given him their word.

Thought it was dead interesting

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By *unnyPairCouple
over a year ago

Seminole

What a handle the assuming command has on things to miss a dozen 400 foot long jets packing up and leaving so secretly in the middle of the night. I swear, nothing on these forums gets more attention than an opportunity to slander the US.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yup lol C5 kind of hard to miss taxiing down a runway. But what do we know.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"What a handle the assuming command has on things to miss a dozen 400 foot long jets packing up and leaving so secretly in the middle of the night. I swear, nothing on these forums gets more attention than an opportunity to slander the US."
it’s just fashionable nowadays best is given the opportunity most of us would swap places with people in California lol

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

10 years

Countless deaths

Pointless conflict

Military disaster

Yep we should ignore it.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"What a handle the assuming command has on things to miss a dozen 400 foot long jets packing up and leaving so secretly in the middle of the night. I swear, nothing on these forums gets more attention than an opportunity to slander the US. it’s just fashionable nowadays best is given the opportunity most of us would swap places with people in California lol"

America has many fine qualities and I'd move to florida like a shot..but their foreign policy leaves a lot to be desired.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

10 years

Countless deaths

Pointless conflict

Military disaster

Yep we should ignore it."
you could be talking about Russia there Lionel it happens the world over tbf

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What a handle the assuming command has on things to miss a dozen 400 foot long jets packing up and leaving so secretly in the middle of the night. I swear, nothing on these forums gets more attention than an opportunity to slander the US. it’s just fashionable nowadays best is given the opportunity most of us would swap places with people in California lol

America has many fine qualities and I'd move to florida like a shot..but their foreign policy leaves a lot to be desired."

Good then stay there Florida is a red state you would lose your mind.

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By *unnyPairCouple
over a year ago

Seminole

Im not suggesting anything be ignored. I too have issues with our foreign policy, but this isn’t about that and my comment was only in reference to the ludicrous idea that there was a secret departure. Hell, it takes twenty minutes and a dozen radio calls just to taxi out to the runway in that place....per aircraft. It’s laughable that anyone entertains things like that, and pathetic that stories are published about them. The handover started months ago.

I give it a week before all of the infrastructure there is gone. All the plumbing, wiring, glass steel and wood will be pillaged before the end of the month and hauled away to build on farmers own land.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Im not suggesting anything be ignored. I too have issues with our foreign policy, but this isn’t about that and my comment was only in reference to the ludicrous idea that there was a secret departure. Hell, it takes twenty minutes and a dozen radio calls just to taxi out to the runway in that place....per aircraft. It’s laughable that anyone entertains things like that, and pathetic that stories are published about them. The handover started months ago.

I read both articles and laughed. Silly me thinking that the Taliban capture if antiquated equipment that they can't get parts for is a serious threat and the other that we magically disappeared overnight."Beam me up Scotty ".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Then i post that a sitting president says he can't be challenged because he has F15s and Nukes is perfectly acceptable. Willing to bomb US citizens.Good times ahead.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

Werent America in talks with the Taliban at one point?

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By *unnyPairCouple
over a year ago

Seminole

Yes, even that was attempted.

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By *unnyPairCouple
over a year ago

Seminole

Wasn’t there, but I suspect the conversation would have been an effort to convince the Taliban to allow elected government who represent each province to govern. Not something they would entertain. Government is elected by the majority of the population there, who are not gun wielding thieves looking to tax honest people and restrict basic human rights.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

US Taliban deal signed last year.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

I think either way,looking back Iraq and Afghanistan were huge mistakes.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

I think that there will be a lot of drones being flown around Afghan airspace!

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By *unnyPairCouple
over a year ago

Seminole

"I think either way,looking back Iraq and Afghanistan were huge mistakes."

In the grand scheme, yes. Had the effort been made at any point in either theater to try and stand on their own, it wouldn’t have drug on for so long. It just turned into a bad relationship that never had an opportunity for a clean break.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think that there will be a lot of drones being flown around Afghan airspace! "

Yup no need for boots on the ground anymore. Lessons learned from conflicts. Adapt. Sit 3000 miles away and play video games.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think either way,looking back Iraq and Afghanistan were huge mistakes."

But the UK gets to test the combat effectiveness of the new carrier in operation shader.So far it's preforming fantastic.

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By *amish SMan
over a year ago

Eastleigh

"Bit of luck they learn the lessons and leave all that area to themselves no matter what

Yep they certainly learnt their lesson from Vietnam

Yup China's turn."

They are not that daft, English tried = failed, Russians tried = failed, US and allies tried = failed.

They've seen others try.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bit of luck they learn the lessons and leave all that area to themselves no matter what

Yep they certainly learnt their lesson from Vietnam

Yup China's turn.

They are not that daft, English tried = failed, Russians tried = failed, US and allies tried = failed.

They've seen others try.

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they need the area for their belt and road initiative. Guess we will see how that play out.

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By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS
over a year ago

Notts

The reason Vietnam failed and Afghanistan has not been cracked is because when the Romans went to war they took no prisoners so to speak, civilian? No such thing...

It makes those conflicts hard to win, who is the enemy him him her?

Lets watch Chinas approach

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The reason Vietnam failed and Afghanistan has not been cracked is because when the Romans went to war they took no prisoners so to speak, civilian? No such thing...

It makes those conflicts hard to win, who is the enemy him him her?

Lets watch Chinas approach "

Yup

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Bit of luck they learn the lessons and leave all that area to themselves no matter what

Yep they certainly learnt their lesson from Vietnam

Yup China's turn.

They are not that daft, English tried = failed, Russians tried = failed, US and allies tried = failed.

They've seen others try.

You dont fuck with the Afghans,that's for sure

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"The reason Vietnam failed and Afghanistan has not been cracked is because when the Romans went to war they took no prisoners so to speak, civilian? No such thing...

It makes those conflicts hard to win, who is the enemy him him her?

Lets watch Chinas approach "

Yep Americas problem in vietnam was they were too lenient.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The reason Vietnam failed and Afghanistan has not been cracked is because when the Romans went to war they took no prisoners so to speak, civilian? No such thing...

It makes those conflicts hard to win, who is the enemy him him her?

Lets watch Chinas approach

Yup

They going to have to get involved it going to be interesting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bit of luck they learn the lessons and leave all that area to themselves no matter what

Yep they certainly learnt their lesson from Vietnam

Yup China's turn.

They are not that daft, English tried = failed, Russians tried = failed, US and allies tried = failed.

They've seen others try.

You dont fuck with the Afghans,that's for sure "

Yup we out they love their warlord society. Now they can go back to civil wars against each other. Taliban can have it the power vaccum is going to set that place on fire.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

The USA should have learnt lessons by now, but they are doomed to repeat the same idiotic mistakes over again.

The Vietnam wsr ended exactly the same way and the people of Afghanistan have suffered terribly.

Now America has abandoned what they started again,

China are neighbours with Afghanistan and i doubt they'll be ad stupid as America.

Slandering the usa? In the abundance of stupid foreign policy decisions, in particular wars with thousands dead, displaced, even drowning in the med and channel, you have the staggering audacity to defend them

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Bit of luck they learn the lessons and leave all that area to themselves no matter what

Yep they certainly learnt their lesson from Vietnam

Yup China's turn.

They are not that daft, English tried = failed, Russians tried = failed, US and allies tried = failed.

They've seen others try.

You dont fuck with the Afghans,that's for sure

Yup we out they love their warlord society. Now they can go back to civil wars against each other. Taliban can have it the power vaccum is going to set that place on fire."

Not taking this too well are you?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

I'm a bit confused by this Chinese/Afghanistan thing if I'm honest.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Bit of luck they learn the lessons and leave all that area to themselves no matter what

Yep they certainly learnt their lesson from Vietnam

Yup China's turn.

They are not that daft, English tried = failed, Russians tried = failed, US and allies tried = failed.

They've seen others try.

You dont fuck with the Afghans,that's for sure

Yup we out they love their warlord society. Now they can go back to civil wars against each other. Taliban can have it the power vaccum is going to set that place on fire."

Hypocrite. They were heros when Russia occupied it, even got supplied weapons.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bit of luck they learn the lessons and leave all that area to themselves no matter what

Yep they certainly learnt their lesson from Vietnam

Yup China's turn.

They are not that daft, English tried = failed, Russians tried = failed, US and allies tried = failed.

They've seen others try.

You dont fuck with the Afghans,that's for sure

Yup we out they love their warlord society. Now they can go back to civil wars against each other. Taliban can have it the power vaccum is going to set that place on fire.

Hypocrite. They were heros when Russia occupied it, even got supplied weapons. "

Umm no muhjaideen not Taliban

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I'm a bit confused by this Chinese/Afghanistan thing if I'm honest."

As far as i can tell thry are neighbours to Afghanistan and understandably want peaceful relations

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By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS
over a year ago

Notts

"The reason Vietnam failed and Afghanistan has not been cracked is because when the Romans went to war they took no prisoners so to speak, civilian? No such thing...

It makes those conflicts hard to win, who is the enemy him him her?

Lets watch Chinas approach

Yep Americas problem in vietnam was they were too lenient."

They were to lenient to win, if they had just killed everything that moved they would have won, end of. Wars once upon a time meant the conquering army then ruled, now we are worrying about future customers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bit of luck they learn the lessons and leave all that area to themselves no matter what

Yep they certainly learnt their lesson from Vietnam

Yup China's turn.

They are not that daft, English tried = failed, Russians tried = failed, US and allies tried = failed.

They've seen others try.

You dont fuck with the Afghans,that's for sure

Yup we out they love their warlord society. Now they can go back to civil wars against each other. Taliban can have it the power vaccum is going to set that place on fire.

Hypocrite. They were heros when Russia occupied it, even got supplied weapons.

Umm no muhjaideen not Taliban

Let them have at it eventually some warlord will be the Victor peace calm and tranquility.Unless you are a woman or LGBTQ.We out finally.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

"I'm a bit confused by this Chinese/Afghanistan thing if I'm honest.

As far as i can tell thry are neighbours to Afghanistan and understandably want peaceful relations

Stability in Afghanistan is important for the Chinese if they are to continue to their push into the country (mining, technology, communications) and allow easier access to the Middle East.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"The reason Vietnam failed and Afghanistan has not been cracked is because when the Romans went to war they took no prisoners so to speak, civilian? No such thing...

It makes those conflicts hard to win, who is the enemy him him her?

Lets watch Chinas approach

Yep Americas problem in vietnam was they were too lenient.

Riiight.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Bit of luck they learn the lessons and leave all that area to themselves no matter what

Yep they certainly learnt their lesson from Vietnam

Yup China's turn.

They are not that daft, English tried = failed, Russians tried = failed, US and allies tried = failed.

They've seen others try.

You dont fuck with the Afghans,that's for sure

Yup we out they love their warlord society. Now they can go back to civil wars against each other. Taliban can have it the power vaccum is going to set that place on fire.

Hypocrite. They were heros when Russia occupied it, even got supplied weapons.

Umm no muhjaideen not Taliban

Let them have at it eventually some warlord will be the Victor peace calm and tranquility.Unless you are a woman or LGBTQ.We out finally.

So just like in Saudi?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Saudi_Arabia_relations

See they get along

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By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS
over a year ago

Notts

"The reason Vietnam failed and Afghanistan has not been cracked is because when the Romans went to war they took no prisoners so to speak, civilian? No such thing...

It makes those conflicts hard to win, who is the enemy him him her?

Lets watch Chinas approach

Yep Americas problem in vietnam was they were too lenient.

Riiight."

Yeeeeees I am, Afghanistan is not unbeatable, just depends what price you are willing to pay for victory, there's a lot of Chinese.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Bit of luck they learn the lessons and leave all that area to themselves no matter what

Yep they certainly learnt their lesson from Vietnam

Yup China's turn.

They are not that daft, English tried = failed, Russians tried = failed, US and allies tried = failed.

They've seen others try.

You dont fuck with the Afghans,that's for sure

Yup we out they love their warlord society. Now they can go back to civil wars against each other. Taliban can have it the power vaccum is going to set that place on fire.

Hypocrite. They were heros when Russia occupied it, even got supplied weapons.

Umm no muhjaideen not Taliban

muhjaideen were warlords as you called them.

The only thing America has learnt from the Vietnam war is they're more organised in retreating now. Still starting wars on lies, shitting on civilians, abandoning allies, committing war crimes still needs work though

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Saudi_Arabia_relations

See they get along

Yep, i think its called skilled diplomacy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bit of luck they learn the lessons and leave all that area to themselves no matter what

Yep they certainly learnt their lesson from Vietnam

Yup China's turn.

They are not that daft, English tried = failed, Russians tried = failed, US and allies tried = failed.

They've seen others try.

You dont fuck with the Afghans,that's for sure

Yup we out they love their warlord society. Now they can go back to civil wars against each other. Taliban can have it the power vaccum is going to set that place on fire.

Hypocrite. They were heros when Russia occupied it, even got supplied weapons.

Umm no muhjaideen not Taliban

muhjaideen were warlords as you called them.

Learned alot . Drone warfare asymmetrical warfare. Better weapons for the future. Now we can spend that money on R&D.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Bit of luck they learn the lessons and leave all that area to themselves no matter what

Yep they learnt their lesson from Vietnam

Yup China's turn.

They are not that daft, English tried = failed, Russians tried = failed, US and allies tried = failed.

They've seen others try.

You dont fuck with the Afghans,that's for sure

Yup we out they love their warlord society. Now they can go back to civil wars against each other. Taliban can have it the power vaccum is going to set that place on fire.

Hypocrite. They were heros when Russia occupied it, even got supplied weapons.

Umm no muhjaideen not Taliban

Let them have at it eventually some warlord will be the Victor peace calm and tranquility.Unless you are a woman or LGBTQ.We out finally.

So just like in Saudi?"

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"The reason Vietnam failed and Afghanistan has not been cracked is because when the Romans went to war they took no prisoners so to speak, civilian? No such thing...

It makes those conflicts hard to win, who is the enemy him him her?

Lets watch Chinas approach

Yep Americas problem in vietnam was they were too lenient.

Riiight.

Yeeeeees I am, Afghanistan is not unbeatable, just depends what price you are willing to pay for victory, there's a lot of Chinese. "

So Britain, Russia and america..3 of the most powerful countries in the world at the time were just unlucky.

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"The reason Vietnam failed and Afghanistan has not been cracked is because when the Romans went to war they took no prisoners so to speak, civilian? No such thing...

It makes those conflicts hard to win, who is the enemy him him her?

Lets watch Chinas approach

Yep Americas problem in vietnam was they were too lenient.

Riiight.

Yeeeeees I am, Afghanistan is not unbeatable, just depends what price you are willing to pay for victory, there's a lot of Chinese. "

Good test for the Chinese. On one hand they need afganistan for their initiatives. On the other they suppress their Muslims. Smart to pull out we get to study their combat effectiveness.

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over a year ago

"Bit of luck they learn the lessons and leave all that area to themselves no matter what

Yep they certainly learnt their lesson from Vietnam

Yup China's turn.

They are not that daft, English tried = failed, Russians tried = failed, US and allies tried = failed.

They've seen others try.

You dont fuck with the Afghans,that's for sure

Yup we out they love their warlord society. Now they can go back to civil wars against each other. Taliban can have it the power vaccum is going to set that place on fire.

Hypocrite. They were heros when Russia occupied it, even got supplied weapons.

Umm no muhjaideen not Taliban

muhjaideen were warlords as you called them.

Learned alot . Drone warfare asymmetrical warfare. Better weapons for the future. Now we can spend that money on R&D.

That kind of statement sounds like your wiping your arse on the lives lost/changed, including American , British and other nationalities that were dragged in

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over a year ago

"The reason Vietnam failed and Afghanistan has not been cracked is because when the Romans went to war they took no prisoners so to speak, civilian? No such thing...

It makes those conflicts hard to win, who is the enemy him him her?

Lets watch Chinas approach

Yep Americas problem in vietnam was they were too lenient.

Riiight.

Yeeeeees I am, Afghanistan is not unbeatable, just depends what price you are willing to pay for victory, there's a lot of Chinese.

So Britain, Russia and america..3 of the most powerful countries in the world at the time were just unlucky. "

No we just do not need afghanistan when we can focus elsewhere. Mission accomplished. If Chinese want it well it's a opportunity

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The reason Vietnam failed and Afghanistan has not been cracked is because when the Romans went to war they took no prisoners so to speak, civilian? No such thing...

It makes those conflicts hard to win, who is the enemy him him her?

Lets watch Chinas approach

Yep Americas problem in vietnam was they were too lenient.

Riiight.

Yeeeeees I am, Afghanistan is not unbeatable, just depends what price you are willing to pay for victory, there's a lot of Chinese.

Good test for the Chinese. On one hand they need afganistan for their initiatives. On the other they suppress their Muslims. Smart to pull out we get to study their combat effectiveness."

You lost the war in Afghanistan, don't kid yourself

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

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"The reason Vietnam failed and Afghanistan has not been cracked is because when the Romans went to war they took no prisoners so to speak, civilian? No such thing...

It makes those conflicts hard to win, who is the enemy him him her?

Lets watch Chinas approach

Yep Americas problem in vietnam was they were too lenient.

Riiight.

Yeeeeees I am, Afghanistan is not unbeatable, just depends what price you are willing to pay for victory, there's a lot of Chinese.

So Britain, Russia and america..3 of the most powerful countries in the world at the time were just unlucky.

No we just do not need afghanistan when we can focus elsewhere. Mission accomplished. If Chinese want it well it's a opportunity

Mission accomplished

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The reason Vietnam failed and Afghanistan has not been cracked is because when the Romans went to war they took no prisoners so to speak, civilian? No such thing...

It makes those conflicts hard to win, who is the enemy him him her?

Lets watch Chinas approach

Yep Americas problem in vietnam was they were too lenient.

Riiight.

Yeeeeees I am, Afghanistan is not unbeatable, just depends what price you are willing to pay for victory, there's a lot of Chinese.

So Britain, Russia and america..3 of the most powerful countries in the world at the time were just unlucky.

No we just do not need afghanistan when we can focus elsewhere. Mission accomplished. If Chinese want it well it's a opportunity

You lost the war... Period!

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over a year ago

"Bit of luck they learn the lessons and leave all that area to themselves no matter what

Yep they certainly learnt their lesson from Vietnam

Yup China's turn.

They are not that daft, English tried = failed, Russians tried = failed, US and allies tried = failed.

They've seen others try.

You dont fuck with the Afghans,that's for sure

Yup we out they love their warlord society. Now they can go back to civil wars against each other. Taliban can have it the power vaccum is going to set that place on fire.

Hypocrite. They were heros when Russia occupied it, even got supplied weapons.

Umm no muhjaideen not Taliban

muhjaideen were warlords as you called them.

Learned alot . Drone warfare asymmetrical warfare. Better weapons for the future. Now we can spend that money on R&D.

That kind of statement sounds like your wiping your arse on the lives lost/changed, including American , British and other nationalities that were dragged in"

Volunteer force they know the risks. Bogging china down in a conflict to study them in a actual war situation is much better. It would be their first engagement outside of their borders.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Bit of luck they learn the lessons and leave all that area to themselves no matter what

Yep they certainly learnt their lesson from Vietnam

Yup China's turn.

They are not that daft, English tried = failed, Russians tried = failed, US and allies tried = failed.

They've seen others try.

You dont fuck with the Afghans,that's for sure

Yup we out they love their warlord society. Now they can go back to civil wars against each other. Taliban can have it the power vaccum is going to set that place on fire.

Hypocrite. They were heros when Russia occupied it, even got supplied weapons.

Umm no muhjaideen not Taliban

muhjaideen were warlords as you called them.

Learned alot . Drone warfare asymmetrical warfare. Better weapons for the future. Now we can spend that money on R&D.

That kind of statement sounds like your wiping your arse on the lives lost/changed, including American , British and other nationalities that were dragged in

Volunteer force they know the risks. Bogging china down in a conflict to study them in a actual war situation is much better. It would be their first engagement outside of their borders."

Fucking hell!,

how many beers you had tonight?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

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"Bit of luck they learn the lessons and leave all that area to themselves no matter what

Yep they certainly learnt their lesson from Vietnam

Yup China's turn.

They are not that daft, English tried = failed, Russians tried = failed, US and allies tried = failed.

They've seen others try.

You dont fuck with the Afghans,that's for sure

Yup we out they love their warlord society. Now they can go back to civil wars against each other. Taliban can have it the power vaccum is going to set that place on fire.

Hypocrite. They were heros when Russia occupied it, even got supplied weapons.

Umm no muhjaideen not Taliban

muhjaideen were warlords as you called them.

Learned alot . Drone warfare asymmetrical warfare. Better weapons for the future. Now we can spend that money on R&D.

That kind of statement sounds like your wiping your arse on the lives lost/changed, including American , British and other nationalities that were dragged in

Volunteer force they know the risks. Bogging china down in a conflict to study them in a actual war situation is much better. It would be their first engagement outside of their borders."

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

Interesting theoriwa about China going and fighting a war in Afghanistan.

It's almost as if there's belief that the Chinese are too dumb to learn from other people's mistakes.

If they want something from Afghanistan they will pay whomsoever they need to pay, regardless of how they behave towards their own population.

I doubt very much that they will fight anyone. Cheaper not to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Americans occupied Afghanistan for twenty years. They are not wanted . It's time for them to leave and never return , they have killed tens of thousands of people, bombed weddings and tortured many thousands more. They have also promoted warlords who are known and prolific paedophiles , and encouraged the heroin trade to bribe others . Their presence has been a disaster for the people of Afghanistan and twenty years of tragedy for the region.

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"The reason Vietnam failed and Afghanistan has not been cracked is because when the Romans went to war they took no prisoners so to speak, civilian? No such thing...

It makes those conflicts hard to win, who is the enemy him him her?

Lets watch Chinas approach

Yep Americas problem in vietnam was they were too lenient.

Riiight.

Yeeeeees I am, Afghanistan is not unbeatable, just depends what price you are willing to pay for victory, there's a lot of Chinese.

So Britain, Russia and america..3 of the most powerful countries in the world at the time were just unlucky.

No we just do not need afghanistan when we can focus elsewhere. Mission accomplished. If Chinese want it well it's a opportunity

You lost the war... Period! "

No objectives where met. Taliban agreed it's all them now. Fun times ahead. Not a loss when we gained knowledge on weapons systems. Hence why the Humvees where left there. Bigger and badder equipment. Lessons JTLV is 100 times better. IED sweepers where non existent got them now too. So pulling back and making more is a prudent choice. More money for R&D. Call it a loss it truly is not.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

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"The Americans occupied Afghanistan for twenty years. They are not wanted . It's time for them to leave and never return , they have killed tens of thousands of people, bombed weddings and tortured many thousands more. They have also promoted warlords who are known and prolific paedophiles , and encouraged the heroin trade to bribe others . Their presence has been a disaster for the people of Afghanistan and twenty years of tragedy for the region. "

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over a year ago

Lol now they have the Taliban great choice. So much better. But it is their country let them fight it out it's what the people want. Let the games begin. We can get back to being home and rebuild with new weapons.

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

Oh and the Taliban and isis are moral crusaders. Don’t forget the UK’s part in all this death and destruction. Let the women starve to death because they aren’t allowed to work even if they have no provider in the family. As for education don’t even think about it. If your gay you’re going off the nearest high building! Your daughters at 11 years of age are prime for a marriage to a 52 year old bloke who’s got some goats.

The invasion was badly thought out with what appeared to be no effort to create a peaceful free country I agree but to blame the US for Afghanistan’s disaster of a country I think is unfair. Go back a long way and you will find it’s littered with death and chaos.

How many wedding did they target? How many paedophiles did they encourage. Really?. The American airforce targeted weddings on purpose? You actually think they decides oh what nice day for blowing up a wedding!,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So the endgame. Afganistan civil war or Chinese taking up the security vaccum for their ambitions.

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

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"The reason Vietnam failed and Afghanistan has not been cracked is because when the Romans went to war they took no prisoners so to speak, civilian? No such thing...

It makes those conflicts hard to win, who is the enemy him him her?

Lets watch Chinas approach

Yep Americas problem in vietnam was they were too lenient.

Riiight.

Yeeeeees I am, Afghanistan is not unbeatable, just depends what price you are willing to pay for victory, there's a lot of Chinese.

So Britain, Russia and america..3 of the most powerful countries in the world at the time were just unlucky.

No we just do not need afghanistan when we can focus elsewhere. Mission accomplished. If Chinese want it well it's a opportunity

You lost the war... Period!

This Taliban with Humvee is a bigger problem than Taliban with a Toyota pick up but what do I know.

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"Interesting theoriwa about China going and fighting a war in Afghanistan.

It's almost as if there's belief that the Chinese are too dumb to learn from other people's mistakes.

If they want something from Afghanistan they will pay whomsoever they need to pay, regardless of how they behave towards their own population.

I doubt very much that they will fight anyone. Cheaper not to."

They can flood with food and money for years and never pick up a gun but take control .

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"The reason Vietnam failed and Afghanistan has not been cracked is because when the Romans went to war they took no prisoners so to speak, civilian? No such thing...

It makes those conflicts hard to win, who is the enemy him him her?

Lets watch Chinas approach

Yep Americas problem in vietnam was they were too lenient.

Riiight.

Yeeeeees I am, Afghanistan is not unbeatable, just depends what price you are willing to pay for victory, there's a lot of Chinese.

So Britain, Russia and america..3 of the most powerful countries in the world at the time were just unlucky.

No we just do not need afghanistan when we can focus elsewhere. Mission accomplished. If Chinese want it well it's a opportunity

You lost the war... Period!

This Taliban with Humvee is a bigger problem than Taliban with a Toyota pick up but what do I know. "

Toyota Hilux just as rugged as a technical.

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over a year ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Shader

Testing your capabilities. Lessons to be learned.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Shader

Testing your capabilities. Lessons to be learned."

Go to the beligerent colum wait for it surprise. Good times. Nice new carrier btw with F35s on it. She is sexy.

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

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"The reason Vietnam failed and Afghanistan has not been cracked is because when the Romans went to war they took no prisoners so to speak, civilian? No such thing...

It makes those conflicts hard to win, who is the enemy him him her?

Lets watch Chinas approach

Yep Americas problem in vietnam was they were too lenient.

Riiight.

Yeeeeees I am, Afghanistan is not unbeatable, just depends what price you are willing to pay for victory, there's a lot of Chinese.

So Britain, Russia and america..3 of the most powerful countries in the world at the time were just unlucky.

No we just do not need afghanistan when we can focus elsewhere. Mission accomplished. If Chinese want it well it's a opportunity

You lost the war... Period!

This Taliban with Humvee is a bigger problem than Taliban with a Toyota pick up but what do I know.

Toyota Hilux just as rugged as a technical.

I’m reminded of the arrogant British forces in red coats invading Zulu land. .

And the immigrants in the US wiping out the native Indians.

It all was going so easily until the natives of both countries got their hands on guns!!

It’s ok we’ve got better guns isn’t really the point.. but yes I agree the Toyota is a tough piece of kit!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The reason Vietnam failed and Afghanistan has not been cracked is because when the Romans went to war they took no prisoners so to speak, civilian? No such thing...

It makes those conflicts hard to win, who is the enemy him him her?

Lets watch Chinas approach

Yep Americas problem in vietnam was they were too lenient.

Riiight.

Yeeeeees I am, Afghanistan is not unbeatable, just depends what price you are willing to pay for victory, there's a lot of Chinese.

So Britain, Russia and america..3 of the most powerful countries in the world at the time were just unlucky.

No we just do not need afghanistan when we can focus elsewhere. Mission accomplished. If Chinese want it well it's a opportunity

You lost the war... Period!

This Taliban with Humvee is a bigger problem than Taliban with a Toyota pick up but what do I know.

Toyota Hilux just as rugged as a technical.

I’m reminded of the arrogant British forces in red coats invading Zulu land. .

And the immigrants in the US wiping out the native Indians.

It all was going so easily until the natives of both countries got their hands on guns!!

It’s ok we’ve got better guns isn’t really the point.. but yes I agree the Toyota is a tough piece of kit!

Your right conventional warfare out the window now. The past 20years proved that with technology not needing massive armies on the ground. Drones and a QRF small units is the new way. Lessons learned schools are built now. Technology is caught up it takes years to train and adapt. No need to send troops inmasse.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

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"The reason Vietnam failed and Afghanistan has not been cracked is because when the Romans went to war they took no prisoners so to speak, civilian? No such thing...

It makes those conflicts hard to win, who is the enemy him him her?

Lets watch Chinas approach

Yep Americas problem in vietnam was they were too lenient.

Riiight.

Yeeeeees I am, Afghanistan is not unbeatable, just depends what price you are willing to pay for victory, there's a lot of Chinese.

So Britain, Russia and america..3 of the most powerful countries in the world at the time were just unlucky.

No we just do not need afghanistan when we can focus elsewhere. Mission accomplished. If Chinese want it well it's a opportunity

You lost the war... Period!

This Taliban with Humvee is a bigger problem than Taliban with a Toyota pick up but what do I know.

Toyota Hilux just as rugged as a technical.

I’m reminded of the arrogant British forces in red coats invading Zulu land. .

And the immigrants in the US wiping out the native Indians.

It all was going so easily until the natives of both countries got their hands on guns!!

It’s ok we’ve got better guns isn’t really the point.. but yes I agree the Toyota is a tough piece of kit!

10 years and countless lives is a long lesson

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By (user no longer on site)
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"The reason Vietnam failed and Afghanistan has not been cracked is because when the Romans went to war they took no prisoners so to speak, civilian? No such thing...

It makes those conflicts hard to win, who is the enemy him him her?

Lets watch Chinas approach

Yep Americas problem in vietnam was they were too lenient.

Riiight.

Yeeeeees I am, Afghanistan is not unbeatable, just depends what price you are willing to pay for victory, there's a lot of Chinese.

So Britain, Russia and america..3 of the most powerful countries in the world at the time were just unlucky.

No we just do not need afghanistan when we can focus elsewhere. Mission accomplished. If Chinese want it well it's a opportunity

You lost the war... Period!

This Taliban with Humvee is a bigger problem than Taliban with a Toyota pick up but what do I know.

Toyota Hilux just as rugged as a technical.

I’m reminded of the arrogant British forces in red coats invading Zulu land. .

And the immigrants in the US wiping out the native Indians.

It all was going so easily until the natives of both countries got their hands on guns!!

It’s ok we’ve got better guns isn’t really the point.. but yes I agree the Toyota is a tough piece of kit!

10 years and countless lives is a long lesson

And we adapted to battlefield threats. IED was biggest threat. Development sweepers and the new JTLV. Humvees did not afford overall protection. Now they do.

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

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"The reason Vietnam failed and Afghanistan has not been cracked is because when the Romans went to war they took no prisoners so to speak, civilian? No such thing...

It makes those conflicts hard to win, who is the enemy him him her?

Lets watch Chinas approach

Yep Americas problem in vietnam was they were too lenient.

Riiight.

Yeeeeees I am, Afghanistan is not unbeatable, just depends what price you are willing to pay for victory, there's a lot of Chinese.

So Britain, Russia and america..3 of the most powerful countries in the world at the time were just unlucky.

No we just do not need afghanistan when we can focus elsewhere. Mission accomplished. If Chinese want it well it's a opportunity

You lost the war... Period!

This Taliban with Humvee is a bigger problem than Taliban with a Toyota pick up but what do I know.

Toyota Hilux just as rugged as a technical.

I’m reminded of the arrogant British forces in red coats invading Zulu land. .

And the immigrants in the US wiping out the native Indians.

It all was going so easily until the natives of both countries got their hands on guns!!

It’s ok we’ve got better guns isn’t really the point.. but yes I agree the Toyota is a tough piece of kit!

So you’re saying the 100k plus deaths has all just be a live fire training ground for the armed forces.

The deaths of so many people is a scandal and all justified by hawk attitudes that never had any intention of helping the poor people who are still suffering decades later.

The west and Russia before should be ashamed of the way they have treated the ordinary people on the ground..

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

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"The reason Vietnam failed and Afghanistan has not been cracked is because when the Romans went to war they took no prisoners so to speak, civilian? No such thing...

It makes those conflicts hard to win, who is the enemy him him her?

Lets watch Chinas approach

Yep Americas problem in vietnam was they were too lenient.

Riiight.

Yeeeeees I am, Afghanistan is not unbeatable, just depends what price you are willing to pay for victory, there's a lot of Chinese.

So Britain, Russia and america..3 of the most powerful countries in the world at the time were just unlucky.

No we just do not need afghanistan when we can focus elsewhere. Mission accomplished. If Chinese want it well it's a opportunity

You lost the war... Period!

This Taliban with Humvee is a bigger problem than Taliban with a Toyota pick up but what do I know.

Toyota Hilux just as rugged as a technical.

I’m reminded of the arrogant British forces in red coats invading Zulu land. .

And the immigrants in the US wiping out the native Indians.

It all was going so easily until the natives of both countries got their hands on guns!!

It’s ok we’ve got better guns isn’t really the point.. but yes I agree the Toyota is a tough piece of kit!

10 years and countless lives is a long lesson

And we adapted to battlefield threats. IED was biggest threat. Development sweepers and the new JTLV. Humvees did not afford overall protection. Now they do."

If we adapted and we’re in control why couldn’t our armed forces travel freely throughout the country without being armed to the teeth and backed up by strike aircraft such as the A10 ?

We had weapons but no idea how to bring the tribes and the fanatics to the table .

20 years and back to square one !

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By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS
over a year ago

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"The reason Vietnam failed and Afghanistan has not been cracked is because when the Romans went to war they took no prisoners so to speak, civilian? No such thing...

It makes those conflicts hard to win, who is the enemy him him her?

Lets watch Chinas approach

Yep Americas problem in vietnam was they were too lenient.

Riiight.

Yeeeeees I am, Afghanistan is not unbeatable, just depends what price you are willing to pay for victory, there's a lot of Chinese.

So Britain, Russia and america..3 of the most powerful countries in the world at the time were just unlucky. "

yes your right lionel, afghanistan is full of super fighters no one can ever beat? lol or its not worth that much effort chasing men in and out of caves? like when the romans stopped at scotland and thought... really.. we want to go there! lets just build a wall lol

oh sorry, in your mind scotland was full of super fighters to and the romans had no fucking chance? lol

if china really wants to defeat and control afghanistan it will, it stands a pretty good chance of defeating any nation on earth. several at a time i should imagine. But perhaps those bullet proof Afghanistan super heroes will save us?

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By *adyinred696969Couple
over a year ago

Brecon

be interesting to see what the afghan president has to say when the Taliban turn up on his doorstep, seeing as he was running the yanks down not so long ago...I can see him legging it when things get hot.

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"The reason Vietnam failed and Afghanistan has not been cracked is because when the Romans went to war they took no prisoners so to speak, civilian? No such thing...

It makes those conflicts hard to win, who is the enemy him him her?

Lets watch Chinas approach

Yep Americas problem in vietnam was they were too lenient.

Riiight.

Yeeeeees I am, Afghanistan is not unbeatable, just depends what price you are willing to pay for victory, there's a lot of Chinese.

So Britain, Russia and america..3 of the most powerful countries in the world at the time were just unlucky.

oh sorry, in your mind scotland was full of super fighters to and the romans had no fucking chance? lol

I think the way the Chinese will be better at the end game is either money and resource flooding as I said earlier. Or very large boots on the ground who do not have to worry about collateral damage or a few wedding parties.

Judging by how they treat Muslims in their own country Afghanistan will be a walk in the park. Behind a tank. !

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over a year ago

"The reason Vietnam failed and Afghanistan has not been cracked is because when the Romans went to war they took no prisoners so to speak, civilian? No such thing...

It makes those conflicts hard to win, who is the enemy him him her?

Lets watch Chinas approach

Yep Americas problem in vietnam was they were too lenient.

Riiight.

Yeeeeees I am, Afghanistan is not unbeatable, just depends what price you are willing to pay for victory, there's a lot of Chinese.

So Britain, Russia and america..3 of the most powerful countries in the world at the time were just unlucky.

oh sorry, in your mind scotland was full of super fighters to and the romans had no fucking chance? lol

Judging by how they treat Muslims in their own country Afghanistan will be a walk in the park. Behind a tank. !

We where restricted on targeting the Chinese will not use the same restrictions.

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By *andy 1Couple
over a year ago

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

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"The reason Vietnam failed and Afghanistan has not been cracked is because when the Romans went to war they took no prisoners so to speak, civilian? No such thing...

It makes those conflicts hard to win, who is the enemy him him her?

Lets watch Chinas approach

Yep Americas problem in vietnam was they were too lenient.

Riiight.

Yeeeeees I am, Afghanistan is not unbeatable, just depends what price you are willing to pay for victory, there's a lot of Chinese.

So Britain, Russia and america..3 of the most powerful countries in the world at the time were just unlucky.

oh sorry, in your mind scotland was full of super fighters to and the romans had no fucking chance? lol

Judging by how they treat Muslims in their own country Afghanistan will be a walk in the park. Behind a tank. !

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great post and spot on the Chinese would do it a lot different to the USA that’s for sure

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

Quite a thread.

The trillions (literally) spent on a war in Afghanistan was to develop technology and tactics...to combat a new form of warfare created by what happened in Afghanistan

China is going to invade Afghanistan and kill indiscriminately because...

Seriously?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The reason Vietnam failed and Afghanistan has not been cracked is because when the Romans went to war they took no prisoners so to speak, civilian? No such thing...

It makes those conflicts hard to win, who is the enemy him him her?

Lets watch Chinas approach

Yep Americas problem in vietnam was they were too lenient.

Riiight.

Yeeeeees I am, Afghanistan is not unbeatable, just depends what price you are willing to pay for victory, there's a lot of Chinese.

So Britain, Russia and america..3 of the most powerful countries in the world at the time were just unlucky.

oh sorry, in your mind scotland was full of super fighters to and the romans had no fucking chance? lol

Judging by how they treat Muslims in their own country Afghanistan will be a walk in the park. Behind a tank. !

great post and spot on the Chinese would do it a lot different to the USA that’s for sure "

Tanks no,overwhelming numbers yes. Terrain for tanks there is harsh. It's a asymmetrical fight. Fast moving pace.

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over a year ago

"Quite a thread.

The trillions (literally) spent on a war in Afghanistan was to develop technology and tactics...to combat a new form of warfare created by what happened in Afghanistan

China is going to invade Afghanistan and kill indiscriminately because...

Seriously?

Well the UK wouldn't be investing in troop training at fort Polk Louisiana. A mock Muslim city named atropia. For no reasons.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

China could always outsource the Uyghur re education camps.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

China's weapon of choice is indebtedness.

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"China's weapon of choice is indebtedness. "

This

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"China's weapon of choice is indebtedness. "

Another way to either destroy a country or rebuild it. Kind of like a virus introduce that and economies take a hit.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

I wonder what it is with anerica and bogey men?

The Russians in the 80s

China now

When China does invade Afghanistan can someone let me know?

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

In the meantime, China will just illegally be in territory owned by:

Taiwan, the Philippines, Indonesia, Vietnam, Japan, South Korea, North Korea, Singapore, Brunei, Nepal, Bhutan, Laos, Mongolia, Myanmar and Tibet.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

Quick question

Why does a thread about anericans involvement in Afghanistan descend into a thread about land china owns?

Never mind..I'm sure those posters who complain long she hard about whataboutery will save the day

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

Oooo wasn't you talking about China?

When you used the word China in your post?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

Answers on a postcard

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Quick question

Why does a thread about anericans involvement in Afghanistan descend into a thread about land china owns?

Never mind..I'm sure those posters who complain long she hard about whataboutery will save the day

Post says american endgame. Makes perfect sense to pull out and let China and whatever entity either Taliban or Kabul decided the outcome.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Quick question

Why does a thread about anericans involvement in Afghanistan descend into a thread about land china owns?

Never mind..I'm sure those posters who complain long she hard about whataboutery will save the day

Post says american endgame. Makes perfect sense to pull out and let China and whatever entity either Taliban or Kabul decided the outcome."

Are china in Afghanistan now?

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

https://www.ft.com/content/49d266c6-a6c2-4ab2-bf52-ed34d72b22c1

https://nypost.com/2021/07/05/china-ramping-up-afghanistan-involvement-amid-us-withdrawal/

Makes perfect sense to be talking about China and Afghanistan at this current time.

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over a year ago

"https://www.ft.com/content/49d266c6-a6c2-4ab2-bf52-ed34d72b22c1

https://nypost.com/2021/07/05/china-ramping-up-afghanistan-involvement-amid-us-withdrawal/

Makes perfect sense to be talking about China and Afghanistan at this current time.

A Chinese airbase getting built in badakhshan northern afganistan.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"https://www.ft.com/content/49d266c6-a6c2-4ab2-bf52-ed34d72b22c1

https://nypost.com/2021/07/05/china-ramping-up-afghanistan-involvement-amid-us-withdrawal/

Makes perfect sense to be talking about China and Afghanistan at this current time.

A Chinese airbase getting built in badakhshan northern afganistan."

How many.airbases do anerica have around the world right now?

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"I wonder what it is with anerica and bogey men?

The Russians in the 80s

China now

When China does invade Afghanistan can someone let me know?

"
so Russia in the 80s was just a bogey man and China are now lol there not real threats then ?

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"https://www.ft.com/content/49d266c6-a6c2-4ab2-bf52-ed34d72b22c1

https://nypost.com/2021/07/05/china-ramping-up-afghanistan-involvement-amid-us-withdrawal/

Makes perfect sense to be talking about China and Afghanistan at this current time.

A Chinese airbase getting built in badakhshan northern afganistan.

How many.airbases do anerica have around the world right now?"
you asked are they there now and got a yes lol ???

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

"I wonder what it is with anerica and bogey men?

The Russians in the 80s

China now

When China does invade Afghanistan can someone let me know?

so Russia in the 80s was just a bogey man and China are now lol there not real threats then ?"

Amazing huh?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"https://www.ft.com/content/49d266c6-a6c2-4ab2-bf52-ed34d72b22c1

https://nypost.com/2021/07/05/china-ramping-up-afghanistan-involvement-amid-us-withdrawal/

Makes perfect sense to be talking about China and Afghanistan at this current time.

A Chinese airbase getting built in badakhshan northern afganistan.

How many.airbases do anerica have around the world right now?"

-1 bahgram. So a Chinese military footprint on afganistan soil is a prelude. They support the Taliban see how that works. No more american involvement so what you mad for. Think we where bad wait.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"https://www.ft.com/content/49d266c6-a6c2-4ab2-bf52-ed34d72b22c1

https://nypost.com/2021/07/05/china-ramping-up-afghanistan-involvement-amid-us-withdrawal/

Makes perfect sense to be talking about China and Afghanistan at this current time.

A Chinese airbase getting built in badakhshan northern afganistan.

How many.airbases do anerica have around the world right now?

-1 bahgram. So a Chinese military footprint on afganistan soil is a prelude. They support the Taliban see how that works. No more american involvement so what you mad for. Think we where bad wait."
he asked are China in Afghanistan now you said yes his answer was how many airbases around the world does America have pmsl post of the day for me

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"I wonder what it is with anerica and bogey men?

The Russians in the 80s

China now

When China does invade Afghanistan can someone let me know?

so Russia in the 80s was just a bogey man and China are now lol there not real threats then ?"

Yep of course

Those nasty Russians were hell bent on world domination.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"https://www.ft.com/content/49d266c6-a6c2-4ab2-bf52-ed34d72b22c1

https://nypost.com/2021/07/05/china-ramping-up-afghanistan-involvement-amid-us-withdrawal/

Makes perfect sense to be talking about China and Afghanistan at this current time.

A Chinese airbase getting built in badakhshan northern afganistan.

How many.airbases do anerica have around the world right now?

-1 bahgram. So a Chinese military footprint on afganistan soil is a prelude. They support the Taliban see how that works. No more american involvement so what you mad for. Think we where bad wait."

Link?

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"I wonder what it is with anerica and bogey men?

The Russians in the 80s

China now

When China does invade Afghanistan can someone let me know?

so Russia in the 80s was just a bogey man and China are now lol there not real threats then ?

Yep of course

Those nasty Russians were hell bent on world domination."
you not heard of the Cuban misile crisis Lionel do you really think Russia or China don’t pose any future threats ?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"I wonder what it is with anerica and bogey men?

The Russians in the 80s

China now

When China does invade Afghanistan can someone let me know?

so Russia in the 80s was just a bogey man and China are now lol there not real threats then ?

Yep of course

Those nasty Russians were hell bent on world domination.you not heard of the Cuban misile crisis Lionel do you really think Russia or China don’t pose any future threats ?"

Are you aware that america has nuclear bases as far east as turkey and all over western Europe..all fixed on Russia.

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

And not one fixed on China! OMG! How did they miss that?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

The USA currently has 800 airbases around the world in 70 countries.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"The USA currently has 800 airbases around the world in 70 countries."
yes well aware bud but how about you saying Russia and China are just bogey men lol

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"The USA currently has 800 airbases around the world in 70 countries. yes well aware bud but how about you saying Russia and China are just bogey men lol "

Hmm

Completely ignoring my point on missiles trained on Russia.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"The USA currently has 800 airbases around the world in 70 countries. yes well aware bud but how about you saying Russia and China are just bogey men lol

Hmm

Completely ignoring my point on missiles trained on Russia."
wtf I addressed your point on calling Russia and China bogey men

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over a year ago

"The USA currently has 800 airbases around the world in 70 countries. yes well aware bud but how about you saying Russia and China are just bogey men lol

Hmm

Completely ignoring my point on missiles trained on Russia."
799 to be technically right we abandoned 1.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"The USA currently has 800 airbases around the world in 70 countries. yes well aware bud but how about you saying Russia and China are just bogey men lol

Hmm

Completely ignoring my point on missiles trained on Russia. 799 to be technically right we abandoned 1."
come on our American friend give us your score for the match tnite ?

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"Quite a thread.

The trillions (literally) spent on a war in Afghanistan was to develop technology and tactics...to combat a new form of warfare created by what happened in Afghanistan

China is going to invade Afghanistan and kill indiscriminately because...

Seriously?

Well the UK wouldn't be investing in troop training at fort Polk Louisiana. A mock Muslim city named atropia. For no reasons."

A mock "Muslim" city? What makes it "Muslim" city? Where your head at with that comment?

Would anybody be building a mock "Muslim" city if these counties hadn't been invaded to start with this changing the geographies and methods of conflict?

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

"The USA currently has 800 airbases around the world in 70 countries. yes well aware bud but how about you saying Russia and China are just bogey men lol

Hmm

Completely ignoring my point on missiles trained on Russia. 799 to be technically right we abandoned 1.come on our American friend give us your score for the match tnite ?"

England 3 - 0 Denmark Foxy

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"The USA currently has 800 airbases around the world in 70 countries. yes well aware bud but how about you saying Russia and China are just bogey men lol

Hmm

Completely ignoring my point on missiles trained on Russia. 799 to be technically right we abandoned 1.come on our American friend give us your score for the match tnite ?

England 3 - 0 Denmark Foxy

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same here can’t wait I’m very confident but still shitting meself lmao

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Quite a thread.

The trillions (literally) spent on a war in Afghanistan was to develop technology and tactics...to combat a new form of warfare created by what happened in Afghanistan

China is going to invade Afghanistan and kill indiscriminately because...

Seriously?

Well the UK wouldn't be investing in troop training at fort Polk Louisiana. A mock Muslim city named atropia. For no reasons.

A mock "Muslim" city? What makes it "Muslim" city? Where your head at with that comment?

Would anybody be building a mock "Muslim" city if these counties hadn't been invaded to start with this changing the geographies and methods of conflict?"

Umm exercise rattlesnake. Your own army participating in.

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

"The USA currently has 800 airbases around the world in 70 countries. yes well aware bud but how about you saying Russia and China are just bogey men lol

Hmm

Completely ignoring my point on missiles trained on Russia. 799 to be technically right we abandoned 1.come on our American friend give us your score for the match tnite ?

England 3 - 0 Denmark Foxy

same here can’t wait I’m very confident but still shitting meself lmao "

Me too lol - Faith.

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over a year ago

"The USA currently has 800 airbases around the world in 70 countries. yes well aware bud but how about you saying Russia and China are just bogey men lol

Hmm

Completely ignoring my point on missiles trained on Russia. 799 to be technically right we abandoned 1.come on our American friend give us your score for the match tnite ?

England 3 - 0 Denmark Foxy

same here can’t wait I’m very confident but still shitting meself lmao

Me too lol - Faith. "

Enjoy the match.

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By *andy 1Couple
over a year ago

northeast

England to win 3,1

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By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS
over a year ago

Notts

"The reason Vietnam failed and Afghanistan has not been cracked is because when the Romans went to war they took no prisoners so to speak, civilian? No such thing...

It makes those conflicts hard to win, who is the enemy him him her?

Lets watch Chinas approach

Yep Americas problem in vietnam was they were too lenient.

Riiight.

Yeeeeees I am, Afghanistan is not unbeatable, just depends what price you are willing to pay for victory, there's a lot of Chinese.

So Britain, Russia and america..3 of the most powerful countries in the world at the time were just unlucky.

oh sorry, in your mind scotland was full of super fighters to and the romans had no fucking chance? lol

Judging by how they treat Muslims in their own country Afghanistan will be a walk in the park. Behind a tank. !

Thats my thoughts to.... no putting soldiers on trial when they get home... think the taliban might want us back lol

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over a year ago

"The reason Vietnam failed and Afghanistan has not been cracked is because when the Romans went to war they took no prisoners so to speak, civilian? No such thing...

It makes those conflicts hard to win, who is the enemy him him her?

Lets watch Chinas approach

Yep Americas problem in vietnam was they were too lenient.

Riiight.

Yeeeeees I am, Afghanistan is not unbeatable, just depends what price you are willing to pay for victory, there's a lot of Chinese.

So Britain, Russia and america..3 of the most powerful countries in the world at the time were just unlucky.

oh sorry, in your mind scotland was full of super fighters to and the romans had no fucking chance? lol

Judging by how they treat Muslims in their own country Afghanistan will be a walk in the park. Behind a tank. !

Thats my thoughts to.... no putting soldiers on trial when they get home... think the taliban might want us back lol"

Lol or is this a start of a proxy war with the Chinese.

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

"England to win 3,1"

That will do Sandy !!!

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over a year ago

"England to win 3,1

That will do Sandy !!!

Congrats

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"Quite a thread.

The trillions (literally) spent on a war in Afghanistan was to develop technology and tactics...to combat a new form of warfare created by what happened in Afghanistan

China is going to invade Afghanistan and kill indiscriminately because...

Seriously?

Well the UK wouldn't be investing in troop training at fort Polk Louisiana. A mock Muslim city named atropia. For no reasons.

A mock "Muslim" city? What makes it "Muslim" city? Where your head at with that comment?

Would anybody be building a mock "Muslim" city if these counties hadn't been invaded to start with this changing the geographies and methods of conflict?

Umm exercise rattlesnake. Your own army participating in."

I will try again.

How is a "Muslim" city different to a city?

If we hadn't invaded Afghanistan and Iraq we would need to develop new tactics and weapons to contract asymmetric warfare, because it would not have practiced on us, because we would not ha e been there.

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over a year ago

"Quite a thread.

The trillions (literally) spent on a war in Afghanistan was to develop technology and tactics...to combat a new form of warfare created by what happened in Afghanistan

China is going to invade Afghanistan and kill indiscriminately because...

Seriously?

Well the UK wouldn't be investing in troop training at fort Polk Louisiana. A mock Muslim city named atropia. For no reasons.

A mock "Muslim" city? What makes it "Muslim" city? Where your head at with that comment?

Would anybody be building a mock "Muslim" city if these counties hadn't been invaded to start with this changing the geographies and methods of conflict?

Umm exercise rattlesnake. Your own army participating in.

I will try again.

How is a "Muslim" city different to a city?

Training rather the people next to me understand ROE than fire blindly into civilians. The city is designed for that purpose. Unless you want new recruits just shooting everything in sight.

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over a year ago

UK has exactly the same training at their facility in Kenya.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"Quite a thread.

The trillions (literally) spent on a war in Afghanistan was to develop technology and tactics...to combat a new form of warfare created by what happened in Afghanistan

China is going to invade Afghanistan and kill indiscriminately because...

Seriously?

Well the UK wouldn't be investing in troop training at fort Polk Louisiana. A mock Muslim city named atropia. For no reasons.

A mock "Muslim" city? What makes it "Muslim" city? Where your head at with that comment?

Would anybody be building a mock "Muslim" city if these counties hadn't been invaded to start with this changing the geographies and methods of conflict?

Umm exercise rattlesnake. Your own army participating in.

I will try again.

How is a "Muslim" city different to a city?

Training rather the people next to me understand ROE than fire blindly into civilians. The city is designed for that purpose. Unless you want new recruits just shooting everything in sight."

Did you read what I wrote or answer the questions that you thought that I asked?

I don't think that I can ask those questions or explain the contradition in the logic about why learning about new tactics has been a "success" in yet another way. It is you rather than me.

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
over a year ago

Bedford

Will this open the door to the heroin trade?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Quite a thread.

The trillions (literally) spent on a war in Afghanistan was to develop technology and tactics...to combat a new form of warfare created by what happened in Afghanistan

China is going to invade Afghanistan and kill indiscriminately because...

Seriously?

Well the UK wouldn't be investing in troop training at fort Polk Louisiana. A mock Muslim city named atropia. For no reasons.

A mock "Muslim" city? What makes it "Muslim" city? Where your head at with that comment?

Would anybody be building a mock "Muslim" city if these counties hadn't been invaded to start with this changing the geographies and methods of conflict?

Umm exercise rattlesnake. Your own army participating in.

I will try again.

How is a "Muslim" city different to a city?

Training rather the people next to me understand ROE than fire blindly into civilians. The city is designed for that purpose. Unless you want new recruits just shooting everything in sight.

Did you read what I wrote or answer the questions that you thought that I asked?

I don't think that I can ask those questions or explain the contradition in the logic about why learning about new tactics has been a "success" in yet another way. It is you rather than me."

They are a success to train future military personnel don't see you understand that. Just ike lessons from past military conflict dating back ages. Blitzkrieg lessons learned. Aircraft carriers over battleships . Lessons learned. Shall I keep going ? Today better equipment to counter asymmetrical threats lessons learned. Drone use on the battlefield for a multitude of applications. Lessons learned. Weapons applied to a different type of warfare and tactics wow lessons learned. I can keep going on how the new warfighter learned alot but it's a moot point with you

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over a year ago

"Quite a thread.

The trillions (literally) spent on a war in Afghanistan was to develop technology and tactics...to combat a new form of warfare created by what happened in Afghanistan

China is going to invade Afghanistan and kill indiscriminately because...

Seriously?

Well the UK wouldn't be investing in troop training at fort Polk Louisiana. A mock Muslim city named atropia. For no reasons.

A mock "Muslim" city? What makes it "Muslim" city? Where your head at with that comment?

Would anybody be building a mock "Muslim" city if these counties hadn't been invaded to start with this changing the geographies and methods of conflict?

Umm exercise rattlesnake. Your own army participating in.

I will try again.

How is a "Muslim" city different to a city?

Training rather the people next to me understand ROE than fire blindly into civilians. The city is designed for that purpose. Unless you want new recruits just shooting everything in sight.

Did you read what I wrote or answer the questions that you thought that I asked?

I don't think that I can ask those questions or explain the contradition in the logic about why learning about new tactics has been a "success" in yet another way. It is you rather than me.

I didn't even get into medical yet on military contributions during war.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Quite a thread.

The trillions (literally) spent on a war in Afghanistan was to develop technology and tactics...to combat a new form of warfare created by what happened in Afghanistan

China is going to invade Afghanistan and kill indiscriminately because...

Seriously?

Well the UK wouldn't be investing in troop training at fort Polk Louisiana. A mock Muslim city named atropia. For no reasons.

A mock "Muslim" city? What makes it "Muslim" city? Where your head at with that comment?

Would anybody be building a mock "Muslim" city if these counties hadn't been invaded to start with this changing the geographies and methods of conflict?

Umm exercise rattlesnake. Your own army participating in.

I will try again.

How is a "Muslim" city different to a city?

Training rather the people next to me understand ROE than fire blindly into civilians. The city is designed for that purpose. Unless you want new recruits just shooting everything in sight.

Did you read what I wrote or answer the questions that you thought that I asked?

I don't think that I can ask those questions or explain the contradition in the logic about why learning about new tactics has been a "success" in yet another way. It is you rather than me.

I didn't even get into medical yet on military contributions during war.

Oh wait there is more

internet oops Designed for military purposes during the cold war. So you see lessons learned. GPS too first gulf war to guide smartbombs and tanks instead of carpet bombings. Precision instead of taking out a city for 1 target.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I may be a woman but if you think military does not contribute to today's societies during wartime. Guess I should get a dick implant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The best thing for Afghanistan is for the west to withdraw and stop trying to replace dictators and create democracy in places that don't need it

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I may be a woman but if you think military does not contribute to today's societies during wartime. Guess I should get a dick implant.

Its not that at all!, it's about being more adept at diplomacy and less arrogance, looking at other countries and trying to "fix things"

One example : American meddling in iran by toppling the government which backfired (1950s i thunk) due to McArthy paranoia and now have a regime that's there now.

Iraq, syria, fermenting new terrorist organisations. Thank god Russia blocked a full american invasion of syria, otherwise more carnage would have followed

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over a year ago

" Oh wait there is more

Its how weapons are used, how do you account for high Civilian casualties? , 100s of thousands easy, and war crimes being covered up until chelsea manning and julian Assange publicised them. So theres a long way to go in terms of how America conducts itself, thy should take a look at themselves before demonising other countries like Russia, iran, China.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

" I didn't even get into medical yet on military contributions during war. "

Oh, please. If your going to lecture medical groups on the virtues of wars {stupid wars in particular } you might think your being clever but to those who had to deal with shit caused by your stupid wars then your just going to show yourself up

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"I may be a woman but if you think military does not contribute to today's societies during wartime. Guess I should get a dick implant.

How exactly does wiping out millions of people contribute to society?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" Oh wait there is more

"
See orange man had the right idea. Isolationism screw everyone else. Hope we get back to that in 2024.

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By *isandhers691127Couple
over a year ago

Bournemouth

So does the rest of the world lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

" Oh wait there is more

See orange man had the right idea. Isolationism screw everyone else. Hope we get back to that in 2024.

If only it were true

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over a year ago

" Oh wait there is more

See orange man had the right idea. Isolationism screw everyone else. Hope we get back to that in 2024.

If only it were true"

As apparently on here our military does not matter. So it's best to just fallback. Let you all sort it out then.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

" Oh wait there is more

See orange man had the right idea. Isolationism screw everyone else. Hope we get back to that in 2024.

If only it were true

As apparently on here our military does not matter. So it's best to just fallback. Let you all sort it out then.

"
could you imagine the panic if that happens lol

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By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS
over a year ago

Notts

"I may be a woman but if you think military does not contribute to today's societies during wartime. Guess I should get a dick implant.

How exactly does wiping out millions of people contribute to society?"

have you heard of evolution, happens all the time in every life form.... big fish swallow up loads of little fish etc etc bare chested men in towels are a thing of the past.... if you cant sashay away darling... you are so last century! lol

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster

"I may be a woman but if you think military does not contribute to today's societies during wartime. Guess I should get a dick implant.

How exactly does wiping out millions of people contribute to society?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I may be a woman but if you think military does not contribute to today's societies during wartime. Guess I should get a dick implant.

How exactly does wiping out millions of people contribute to society?

It's great complaining when we do complaining when we do not.I know women that can embarrass some of the men on here including myself. Strange world when the feminine sides have more astuteness. Love my TV friends they are more feminine then me but you do not f@uck with them. It's strange but I love it.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"Quite a thread.

The trillions (literally) spent on a war in Afghanistan was to develop technology and tactics...to combat a new form of warfare created by what happened in Afghanistan

China is going to invade Afghanistan and kill indiscriminately because...

Seriously?

Well the UK wouldn't be investing in troop training at fort Polk Louisiana. A mock Muslim city named atropia. For no reasons.

A mock "Muslim" city? What makes it "Muslim" city? Where your head at with that comment?

Would anybody be building a mock "Muslim" city if these counties hadn't been invaded to start with this changing the geographies and methods of conflict?

Umm exercise rattlesnake. Your own army participating in.

I will try again.

How is a "Muslim" city different to a city?

Training rather the people next to me understand ROE than fire blindly into civilians. The city is designed for that purpose. Unless you want new recruits just shooting everything in sight.

Did you read what I wrote or answer the questions that you thought that I asked?

I don't think that I can ask those questions or explain the contradition in the logic about why learning about new tactics has been a "success" in yet another way. It is you rather than me.

I didn't even get into medical yet on military contributions during war.

Oh wait there is more

FIBUA (Fighting in a Built-Up Areas) has been part of military training for many, many years.

The question is not about what training is for. The question is what distinguishes Fighting in a Built-Up "Muslim" Area from a "non-Muslim" one?

Secondly, wwould you need to learn how to defend against a new form of warfare if you had not created the conditions under which this new form of warfare was created.

Do you understand that you are addressing a completely different thing?

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

" Oh wait there is more

See orange man had the right idea. Isolationism screw everyone else. Hope we get back to that in 2024.

If only it were true

As apparently on here our military does not matter. So it's best to just fallback. Let you all sort it out then.

could you imagine the panic if that happens lol"

Who said that the military does not matter?

The military deserves the best equipment and the best training.

It also needs good political leadership that only puts them in harms way when there as an absolute need and a clear plan to end the engagement.

Dose that work for both of you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" Oh wait there is more

See orange man had the right idea. Isolationism screw everyone else. Hope we get back to that in 2024.

If only it were true

As apparently on here our military does not matter. So it's best to just fallback. Let you all sort it out then.

could you imagine the panic if that happens lol

Who said that the military does not matter?

The military deserves the best equipment and the best training.

It also needs good political leadership that only puts them in harms way when there as an absolute need and a clear plan to end the engagement.

Dose that work for both of you? "

Did the new equipment a result of R&D to a threat not anticipated?

Did they get that "Best equipment" for protection? Did the modern warfighter learn lessons yes or no? Did they adjust and train for future conflicts ? To have peace prepare for wars.

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over a year ago

Ooops

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over a year ago

This

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over a year ago

Thread is

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