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"Well, it basically went something like this: If you follow England (the team that is) you may be showing more of your Imperialistic tendencies than your Patriotic ones and if you are showing your Patriotic tendencies then you are probably an Ethnocentrist. Panel please discuss (radio programme, that is). Say what? Only the BBC could be this far behind the curve! ![]() If you mean The Moral Maze, I listened to it. I listen to it regularly. That you've oversimplified what was said is no surprise - especially just to have a go at the BBC - but it's good that you at least made the attempt to listen. Bottom line, they examined if supporting the England football team encourages the sort of imperialist/racist/English exceptionalism rooted in the past. They didn't show that it did. England is full of those sorts of people - but all the football does is make them more visible; they need no encouragement to be the way they are. Is it wrong they are that way? I'd say no. Unless they're resorting to violence or committing and other crimes; they're as entitled as any other person to an outpouring of nationalism/patriotism as anyone else. The programme did - wrongly - suggest that when the English indulge themselves this way, it's worse than it is when the Scots, Welsh and Irish do it. Clearly, it's not. That said, there is, without question, in Westminster, an attitude of 'English nationalism good - Scots nationalism bad'. It's mirrored in Holyrood, the other way. Either both are right, or both are wrong. People not accepting that is what causes friction - by double standards. Anyway, don't take my word for it - or the OP's. Listen to it for yourself: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000xdqt | |||
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"Well, it basically went something like this: If you follow England (the team that is) you may be showing more of your Imperialistic tendencies than your Patriotic ones and if you are showing your Patriotic tendencies then you are probably an Ethnocentrist. Panel please discuss (radio programme, that is). Say what? Only the BBC could be this far behind the curve! ![]() It was a completely different radio 4 show on footy and patriotism ![]() | |||
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"Well, it basically went something like this: If you follow England (the team that is) you may be showing more of your Imperialistic tendencies than your Patriotic ones and if you are showing your Patriotic tendencies then you are probably an Ethnocentrist. Panel please discuss (radio programme, that is). Say what? Only the BBC could be this far behind the curve! ![]() Maybe it's the type of patriotism or what you are celebrating? Look at national anthems..other countries celebrate how wonderful their countries are..we celebrate kissing the arse of a family of parasites. Personally I'm proud about some things as the NHS..and I have absolutely nothing in common with simpletons who celebrate a conflict which finished 80 years ago and our colonial past. | |||
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"Well, it basically went something like this: If you follow England (the team that is) you may be showing more of your Imperialistic tendencies than your Patriotic ones and if you are showing your Patriotic tendencies then you are probably an Ethnocentrist. Panel please discuss (radio programme, that is). Say what? Only the BBC could be this far behind the curve! ![]() so you won’t be singing the national anthem tomorrow night when England play then There’s a shock lol | |||
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"Well, it basically went something like this: If you follow England (the team that is) you may be showing more of your Imperialistic tendencies than your Patriotic ones and if you are showing your Patriotic tendencies then you are probably an Ethnocentrist. Panel please discuss (radio programme, that is). Say what? Only the BBC could be this far behind the curve! ![]() I won’t, never will, I have no problem with people who do sing it though . why do some of the simpletons at the England games boo the oppositions anthem? | |||
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"I have absolutely nothing in common with simpletons who celebrate a conflict which finished 80 years ago and our colonial past." The very point of one part of the programme was that if you live with our colonial past in your head, you are always going to feel that way. Perhaps we need to let that part go in so much as to live properly and emotionally profitably in our present, and stop apologising on a daily basis for that part of our history. We know what our past is. We have in many ways come to a proper understanding of it. There are few countries in the history of person-kind that didn't have a colonial something or other. We do ourselves injury forever living in that same moment. | |||
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" why do some of the simpletons at the England games boo the oppositions anthem? " You answer your own question. With the word 'simpletons'. It's akin to name-calling - some people just never grow up and out of it. | |||
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"Well, it basically went something like this: If you follow England (the team that is) you may be showing more of your Imperialistic tendencies than your Patriotic ones and if you are showing your Patriotic tendencies then you are probably an Ethnocentrist. Panel please discuss (radio programme, that is). Say what? Only the BBC could be this far behind the curve! ![]() A republican not singing gid save the queen Yeah mate I'm flabafastered myself. However I'm sure they fully appreciate your unswerving devotion ![]() | |||
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"….why do some of the simpletons at the England games boo the oppositions anthem? " Doesn’t happen in rugby, even at Murrayfield ![]() | |||
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"….why do some of the simpletons at the England games boo the oppositions anthem? Doesn’t happen in rugby, even at Murrayfield ![]() That’s true, plus the rugby fans all get on well for the lions matches | |||
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"Obvs disrespecting other countires is standard acceptable behaviour." Makes you proud ![]() | |||
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"Well, it basically went something like this: If you follow England (the team that is) you may be showing more of your Imperialistic tendencies than your Patriotic ones and if you are showing your Patriotic tendencies then you are probably an Ethnocentrist. Panel please discuss (radio programme, that is). Say what? Only the BBC could be this far behind the curve! ![]() you say that like it’s only the English that do this I wonder why you pick on your fellow country men all the time very strange it was the lazy robbing Brit builders the other day | |||
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"Obvs disrespecting other countires is standard acceptable behaviour. Makes you proud ![]() Yep Add it to the list | |||
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"Obvs disrespecting other countires is standard acceptable behaviour." is it standard acceptable behaviour in Eastern European countries lol | |||
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"Well, it basically went something like this: If you follow England (the team that is) you may be showing more of your Imperialistic tendencies than your Patriotic ones and if you are showing your Patriotic tendencies then you are probably an Ethnocentrist. Panel please discuss (radio programme, that is). Say what? Only the BBC could be this far behind the curve! ![]() Who else boos the oppositions national anthem? | |||
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"Obvs disrespecting other countires is standard acceptable behaviour.is it standard acceptable behaviour in Eastern European countries lol" Which ones ? | |||
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"Obvs disrespecting other countires is standard acceptable behaviour.is it standard acceptable behaviour in Eastern European countries lol" Have Germany moved to eastern europe? | |||
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"Obvs disrespecting other countires is standard acceptable behaviour.is it standard acceptable behaviour in Eastern European countries lol Have Germany moved to eastern europe?" don’t think I mentioned Germany buddy lol | |||
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"Some people haven't heard of Russia Foxy ![]() they have never heard of bananas chucked on the pitch’s and monkey chants in these same countries never mind it’s not fashionable to slag other countries off only your own lol | |||
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"Obvs disrespecting other countires is standard acceptable behaviour.is it standard acceptable behaviour in Eastern European countries lol Have Germany moved to eastern europe?don’t think I mentioned Germany buddy lol" You said eastern european countries boo the english anthem. Englamd played gernany the other night and booed theirs Am I missing something? I recall they even booed Jamaica when they played them in a friendly a few years ago. Was that because some unknown eastern European countries booed ours aswell? | |||
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"Some people haven't heard of Russia Foxy ![]() You are aware of English football in the 70s and 80s arent you? | |||
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"Some people haven't heard of Russia Foxy ![]() So we have Russia & England who boo the oppositions national anthem? Anymore? | |||
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"Some people haven't heard of Russia Foxy ![]() So it’s ok that England fans boo the oppositions national anthem because a few countries DJ the same | |||
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"Some people haven't heard of Russia Foxy ![]() yes are you aware of the European countries in the 70/80s aswell or did the English fight amongst themselves your actually obsessed with bashing the U.K. mate | |||
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"Some people haven't heard of Russia Foxy ![]() Apparently so ![]() | |||
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"Some people haven't heard of Russia Foxy ![]() Why can’t you condemn the England fans who boo the oppositions national anthem | |||
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"Some people haven't heard of Russia Foxy ![]() I literally dont know what that means. | |||
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"Some people haven't heard of Russia Foxy ![]() I think if you go back to the threads about this a while back I did mate it’s an embarrassment which ever countries fans do it what more shud I do ? | |||
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"Some people haven't heard of Russia Foxy ![]() standard Lionel | |||
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"Some people haven't heard of Russia Foxy ![]() Yes, it’s pathetic and embarrassing behaviour whoever does it | |||
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"England fans who boo other nations. 'Despicable'. UK citizens who constantly boo their nation 'Despicable'. ![]() haha no it only counts one way when they bash the U.K. on here it’s a badge of honour for them | |||
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"England fans who boo other nations. 'Despicable'. UK citizens who constantly boo their nation 'Despicable'. ![]() How do you ‘bash the UK’ ? Is criticising the government and Brexit ‘bashing the UK’ , is stating that British builders are lazy ‘bashing the UK’ is suggesting Haribo sweets are better then shitty British sweets ‘bashing the UK’ ? | |||
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"England fans who boo other nations. 'Despicable'. UK citizens who constantly boo their nation 'Despicable'. ![]() Yes. | |||
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"England fans who boo other nations. 'Despicable'. UK citizens who constantly boo their nation 'Despicable'. ![]() Call me churlish..who on here has said they booed the English anthem? | |||
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"England fans who boo other nations. 'Despicable'. UK citizens who constantly boo their nation 'Despicable'. ![]() Nobody did. So a pointless point really. | |||
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"England fans who boo other nations. 'Despicable'. UK citizens who constantly boo their nation 'Despicable'. ![]() Sparta Prague fans, apparently ![]() | |||
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"England fans who boo other nations. 'Despicable'. UK citizens who constantly boo their nation 'Despicable'. ![]() ![]() Now you are getting him lol. ![]() | |||
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"England fans who boo other nations. 'Despicable'. UK citizens who constantly boo their nation 'Despicable'. ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"England fans who boo other nations. 'Despicable'. UK citizens who constantly boo their nation 'Despicable'. ![]() ![]() It’s a bit ‘snowflakey’ , look at him , criticising British sweets the ‘UK basher’ | |||
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"England fans who boo other nations. 'Despicable'. UK citizens who constantly boo their nation 'Despicable'. ![]() ![]() Boo boo he called Boris a useless cunt and said British builders are lazy, ‘UK basher’ | |||
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"England fans who boo other nations. 'Despicable'. UK citizens who constantly boo their nation 'Despicable'. ![]() ![]() no way have you been called a Brit basher I mean you’ve never said anything that’s not complimentary to the brits ever you and Lionel love your fellow countryman lol | |||
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"England fans who boo other nations. 'Despicable'. UK citizens who constantly boo their nation 'Despicable'. ![]() ![]() Model Patriots lol. ![]() | |||
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"England fans who boo other nations. 'Despicable'. UK citizens who constantly boo their nation 'Despicable'. ![]() ![]() ![]() I wonder how many of the squad have the English flag hanging from there window in support of England Saturday I’m going to guess none lol | |||
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"England fans who boo other nations. 'Despicable'. UK citizens who constantly boo their nation 'Despicable'. ![]() ![]() Have you ever said anything complimentary? I love where I live, I have huge regional pride I can’t be criticised if I think that this government are shit, British sweets are shit and Brexit is a disaster ? Do you think absolutely everything we do is amazing ? | |||
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"England fans who boo other nations. 'Despicable'. UK citizens who constantly boo their nation 'Despicable'. ![]() ![]() ![]() Do you have a flag? | |||
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"England fans who boo other nations. 'Despicable'. UK citizens who constantly boo their nation 'Despicable'. ![]() ![]() nor mate I don’t I know we have a past just like every other major country I just prefer to live in the positive rather than the negative | |||
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"England fans who boo other nations. 'Despicable'. UK citizens who constantly boo their nation 'Despicable'. ![]() ![]() To improve you have to conquer your weaknesses, are you happy with your current government ? | |||
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"England fans who boo other nations. 'Despicable'. UK citizens who constantly boo their nation 'Despicable'. ![]() ![]() ![]() no iv got 3 and two in tne car I’ll be out tomorrow in the pub cheering us on like every single person I know won’t you and Lionel be out ?? | |||
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"England fans who boo other nations. 'Despicable'. UK citizens who constantly boo their nation 'Despicable'. ![]() ![]() ![]() Good for you, why haven’t you got 4 and 3 in the car? I don’t have a flag, does that make me and other people who don’t have flags ‘UK bashers’ | |||
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"People died so you can have free speech How dare you not pledge allegiance to the queen..what is wrong with you? I wonder why right wingers have such difficulty grasping the concept of irony?" ![]() | |||
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"People died so you can have free speech How dare you not pledge allegiance to the queen..what is wrong with you? I wonder why right wingers have such difficulty grasping the concept of irony?" They are loyal subjects , they bow and scrape to their superiors, they know their place. | |||
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"People died so you can have free speech " 75 million people died in WWII. For FREE Speech. Imagine that. | |||
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"People died so you can have free speech How dare you not pledge allegiance to the queen..what is wrong with you? I wonder why right wingers have such difficulty grasping the concept of irony? ![]() You are not a fan of the royal family but you sing god save the queen? Yep that's completely logical | |||
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"People died so you can have free speech How dare you not pledge allegiance to the queen..what is wrong with you? I wonder why right wingers have such difficulty grasping the concept of irony? ![]() Good for you, I won’t , does that mate me a ‘UK basher’ | |||
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"People died so you can have free speech How dare you not pledge allegiance to the queen..what is wrong with you? I wonder why right wingers have such difficulty grasping the concept of irony? ![]() Because for this current moment it's the one we have. ![]() | |||
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"People died so you can have free speech How dare you not pledge allegiance to the queen..what is wrong with you? I wonder why right wingers have such difficulty grasping the concept of irony? ![]() ![]() | |||
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"People died so you can have free speech How dare you not pledge allegiance to the queen..what is wrong with you? I wonder why right wingers have such difficulty grasping the concept of irony? ![]() I am no fan of Adele but I do like to sing all her songs | |||
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"People died so you can have free speech How dare you not pledge allegiance to the queen..what is wrong with you? I wonder why right wingers have such difficulty grasping the concept of irony? They are loyal subjects , they bow and scrape to their superiors, they know their place. " Tbf the class system is another immensely institution to be proud off. | |||
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"People died so you can have free speech How dare you not pledge allegiance to the queen..what is wrong with you? I wonder why right wingers have such difficulty grasping the concept of irony? They are loyal subjects , they bow and scrape to their superiors, they know their place. Tbf the class system is another immensely institution to be proud off." Of course and the House of Lords, | |||
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"People died so you can have free speech How dare you not pledge allegiance to the queen..what is wrong with you? I wonder why right wingers have such difficulty grasping the concept of irony? They are loyal subjects , they bow and scrape to their superiors, they know their place. Tbf the class system is another immensely institution to be proud off. Of course and the House of Lords, " Does giving a Russian oligarch a peerage ,despite being heavily advised not too,count as epic patriotism.? | |||
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"People died so you can have free speech How dare you not pledge allegiance to the queen..what is wrong with you? I wonder why right wingers have such difficulty grasping the concept of irony? They are loyal subjects , they bow and scrape to their superiors, they know their place. Tbf the class system is another immensely institution to be proud off. Of course and the House of Lords, Does giving a Russian oligarch a peerage ,despite being heavily advised not too,count as epic patriotism.?" Definitely, does he have any links to the Tory party ? | |||
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"People died so you can have free speech How dare you not pledge allegiance to the queen..what is wrong with you? I wonder why right wingers have such difficulty grasping the concept of irony? They are loyal subjects , they bow and scrape to their superiors, they know their place. Tbf the class system is another immensely institution to be proud off. Of course and the House of Lords, Does giving a Russian oligarch a peerage ,despite being heavily advised not too,count as epic patriotism.?" I’m sure you two could sit up all night listing negatives with the U.K. I just wish I had your lives sounds so much fun pmsl | |||
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"People died so you can have free speech How dare you not pledge allegiance to the queen..what is wrong with you? I wonder why right wingers have such difficulty grasping the concept of irony? They are loyal subjects , they bow and scrape to their superiors, they know their place. Tbf the class system is another immensely institution to be proud off. Of course and the House of Lords, Does giving a Russian oligarch a peerage ,despite being heavily advised not too,count as epic patriotism.? I’m sure you two could sit up all night listing negatives with the U.K. I just wish I had your lives sounds so much fun pmsl " Negatives with the House of Lords doesn’t constitute the whole of the UK, come on, here’s your chance, list your positives about the House of Lords | |||
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"People died so you can have free speech How dare you not pledge allegiance to the queen..what is wrong with you? I wonder why right wingers have such difficulty grasping the concept of irony? They are loyal subjects , they bow and scrape to their superiors, they know their place. Tbf the class system is another immensely institution to be proud off. Of course and the House of Lords, Does giving a Russian oligarch a peerage ,despite being heavily advised not too,count as epic patriotism.? I’m sure you two could sit up all night listing negatives with the U.K. I just wish I had your lives sounds so much fun pmsl " I'll try to make this as easy as possible for you to understand. You are banging on about the importance of patriotism. Yet the pm of this country,who you never seem to have an issue with,ignored advice and gave a peerage to a Russian oligarch. Please at least attempt to see the contradiction | |||
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"People died so you can have free speech How dare you not pledge allegiance to the queen..what is wrong with you? I wonder why right wingers have such difficulty grasping the concept of irony? They are loyal subjects , they bow and scrape to their superiors, they know their place. Tbf the class system is another immensely institution to be proud off. Of course and the House of Lords, Does giving a Russian oligarch a peerage ,despite being heavily advised not too,count as epic patriotism.? I’m sure you two could sit up all night listing negatives with the U.K. I just wish I had your lives sounds so much fun pmsl I'll try to make this as easy as possible for you to understand. You are banging on about the importance of patriotism. Yet the pm of this country,who you never seem to have an issue with,ignored advice and gave a peerage to a Russian oligarch. Please at least attempt to see the contradiction " ffs iv slagged him off as much as you I only refer to him as blowjob you know iv always supported labour only once Tory and that was for brexit | |||
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"People died so you can have free speech How dare you not pledge allegiance to the queen..what is wrong with you? I wonder why right wingers have such difficulty grasping the concept of irony? They are loyal subjects , they bow and scrape to their superiors, they know their place. Tbf the class system is another immensely institution to be proud off. Of course and the House of Lords, Does giving a Russian oligarch a peerage ,despite being heavily advised not too,count as epic patriotism.? I’m sure you two could sit up all night listing negatives with the U.K. I just wish I had your lives sounds so much fun pmsl I'll try to make this as easy as possible for you to understand. You are banging on about the importance of patriotism. Yet the pm of this country,who you never seem to have an issue with,ignored advice and gave a peerage to a Russian oligarch. Please at least attempt to see the contradiction ffs iv slagged him off as much as you I only refer to him as blowjob you know iv always supported labour only once Tory and that was for brexit " Criticising the Government is UK bashing though, apparently | |||
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"England fans who boo other nations. 'Despicable'. UK citizens who constantly boo their nation 'Despicable'. ![]() You can stick your horrid haribos. Give me rhubarb and custard anyday | |||
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"England fans who boo other nations. 'Despicable'. UK citizens who constantly boo their nation 'Despicable'. ![]() …Or a Berwick cockle ![]() ![]() | |||
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"People died so you can have free speech How dare you not pledge allegiance to the queen..what is wrong with you? I wonder why right wingers have such difficulty grasping the concept of irony? They are loyal subjects , they bow and scrape to their superiors, they know their place. Tbf the class system is another immensely institution to be proud off. Of course and the House of Lords, Does giving a Russian oligarch a peerage ,despite being heavily advised not too,count as epic patriotism.? I’m sure you two could sit up all night listing negatives with the U.K. I just wish I had your lives sounds so much fun pmsl I'll try to make this as easy as possible for you to understand. You are banging on about the importance of patriotism. Yet the pm of this country,who you never seem to have an issue with,ignored advice and gave a peerage to a Russian oligarch. Please at least attempt to see the contradiction ffs iv slagged him off as much as you I only refer to him as blowjob you know iv always supported labour only once Tory and that was for brexit Criticising the Government is UK bashing though, apparently " no it’s not constantly putting the U.K. down and blaming the U.K. for every fuck up in the world is and only talking about the negatives in our past is and putting down your country men now that’s U.K. bashing mate and there’s a lot of you guilty of it in here and funny enough your all remainers lol | |||
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"People died so you can have free speech How dare you not pledge allegiance to the queen..what is wrong with you? I wonder why right wingers have such difficulty grasping the concept of irony? They are loyal subjects , they bow and scrape to their superiors, they know their place. Tbf the class system is another immensely institution to be proud off. Of course and the House of Lords, Does giving a Russian oligarch a peerage ,despite being heavily advised not too,count as epic patriotism.? I’m sure you two could sit up all night listing negatives with the U.K. I just wish I had your lives sounds so much fun pmsl I'll try to make this as easy as possible for you to understand. You are banging on about the importance of patriotism. Yet the pm of this country,who you never seem to have an issue with,ignored advice and gave a peerage to a Russian oligarch. Please at least attempt to see the contradiction ffs iv slagged him off as much as you I only refer to him as blowjob you know iv always supported labour only once Tory and that was for brexit Criticising the Government is UK bashing though, apparently no it’s not constantly putting the U.K. down and blaming the U.K. for every fuck up in the world is and only talking about the negatives in our past is and putting down your country men now that’s U.K. bashing mate and there’s a lot of you guilty of it in here and funny enough your all remainers lol" I blame the UK government, this is a politics forum ![]() | |||
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"Who has put down our 'country exactly?" I mentioned British builder being lazy and British sweets being shit and I think Foxy wants me to be sent to the Tower for treason | |||
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"Who has put down our 'country exactly? I mentioned British builder being lazy and British sweets being shit and I think Foxy wants me to be sent to the Tower for treason " ![]() | |||
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"Who has put down our 'country exactly?" lionel petal you and your flower pots never say a good word about the U.K. all yous do is go on about our past and all the wrong the U.K. does in the world yas moan everyday about the U.K. lol England are playing an important match tnite get a few cams down ya neck and cheer the lass on I promise ya it will do ya the world of good | |||
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"Who has put down our 'country exactly?lionel petal you and your flower pots never say a good word about the U.K. all yous do is go on about our past and all the wrong the U.K. does in the world yas moan everyday about the U.K. lol England are playing an important match tnite get a few cams down ya neck and cheer the lass on I promise ya it will do ya the world of good " I agree, come on The British and Irish lions, | |||
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"Who has put down our 'country exactly?lionel petal you and your flower pots never say a good word about the U.K. all yous do is go on about our past and all the wrong the U.K. does in the world yas moan everyday about the U.K. lol England are playing an important match tnite get a few cams down ya neck and cheer the lass on I promise ya it will do ya the world of good I agree, come on The British and Irish lions, " I knew you just couldn’t spit out the words England lol | |||
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"Who has put down our 'country exactly?lionel petal you and your flower pots never say a good word about the U.K. all yous do is go on about our past and all the wrong the U.K. does in the world yas moan everyday about the U.K. lol England are playing an important match tnite get a few cams down ya neck and cheer the lass on I promise ya it will do ya the world of good I agree, come on The British and Irish lions, " Starting soon ![]() | |||
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" I agree, come on The British and Irish lions, Starting soon ![]() Just had a mild panic then . . . I thought the wine cooler was off . . . only to find a Butterfly resting on the digital display! It's a sign. A very British Butterfly indeed. !!! Come on England !!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Who has put down our 'country exactly?lionel petal you and your flower pots never say a good word about the U.K. all yous do is go on about our past and all the wrong the U.K. does in the world yas moan everyday about the U.K. lol England are playing an important match tnite get a few cams down ya neck and cheer the lass on I promise ya it will do ya the world of good I agree, come on The British and Irish lions, Starting soon ![]() Yep watching the lions at home then doen the pub for the three lions. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Who has put down our 'country exactly?lionel petal you and your flower pots never say a good word about the U.K. all yous do is go on about our past and all the wrong the U.K. does in the world yas moan everyday about the U.K. lol England are playing an important match tnite get a few cams down ya neck and cheer the lass on I promise ya it will do ya the world of good I agree, come on The British and Irish lions, I knew you just couldn’t spit out the words England lol" I don’t want to be labelled right wing mate, ![]() | |||
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" I agree, come on The British and Irish lions, Starting soon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() haha we call em butterloggys lol | |||
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"Who has put down our 'country exactly?lionel petal you and your flower pots never say a good word about the U.K. all yous do is go on about our past and all the wrong the U.K. does in the world yas moan everyday about the U.K. lol England are playing an important match tnite get a few cams down ya neck and cheer the lass on I promise ya it will do ya the world of good I agree, come on The British and Irish lions, I knew you just couldn’t spit out the words England lol I don’t want to be labelled right wing mate, ![]() lionel wouldn’t label you your his huckleberry lol | |||
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"Who has put down our 'country exactly?lionel petal you and your flower pots never say a good word about the U.K. all yous do is go on about our past and all the wrong the U.K. does in the world yas moan everyday about the U.K. lol England are playing an important match tnite get a few cams down ya neck and cheer the lass on I promise ya it will do ya the world of good I agree, come on The British and Irish lions, I knew you just couldn’t spit out the words England lol I don’t want to be labelled right wing mate, ![]() Hold on, you said if we cheer for England we will be labelled right wing ![]() | |||
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"The very point of one part of the programme was that if you live with our colonial past in your head, you are always going to feel that way. Perhaps we need to let that part go in so much as to live properly and emotionally profitably in our present" perhaps you should try writing to the PM and ask him to desist his populist nationalist culture war if your that concerned about it ![]() | |||
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"The very point of one part of the programme was that if you live with our colonial past in your head, you are always going to feel that way. Perhaps we need to let that part go in so much as to live properly and emotionally profitably in our present perhaps you should try writing to the PM and ask him to desist his populist nationalist culture war if your that concerned about it ![]() I'm not. As I don't live that way. But people in the programme were. Let them write. But TY for your contribution. | |||
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" Yep watching the lions at home then doen the pub for the three lions. ![]() ![]() Have fun and one for me. Family tonight for me. And Football, of course. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Who has put down our 'country exactly?lionel petal you and your flower pots never say a good word about the U.K. all yous do is go on about our past and all the wrong the U.K. does in the world yas moan everyday about the U.K. lol England are playing an important match tnite get a few cams down ya neck and cheer the lass on I promise ya it will do ya the world of good I agree, come on The British and Irish lions, I knew you just couldn’t spit out the words England lol I don’t want to be labelled right wing mate, ![]() ![]() no petal I me t you would label them right wing you and your Lionel lol | |||
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"Who has put down our 'country exactly?lionel petal you and your flower pots never say a good word about the U.K. all yous do is go on about our past and all the wrong the U.K. does in the world yas moan everyday about the U.K. lol England are playing an important match tnite get a few cams down ya neck and cheer the lass on I promise ya it will do ya the world of good I agree, come on The British and Irish lions, I knew you just couldn’t spit out the words England lol I don’t want to be labelled right wing mate, ![]() ![]() Ah, not at all flower, you cheer on England to your hearts content ![]() | |||
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"Who has put down our 'country exactly?lionel petal you and your flower pots never say a good word about the U.K. all yous do is go on about our past and all the wrong the U.K. does in the world yas moan everyday about the U.K. lol England are playing an important match tnite get a few cams down ya neck and cheer the lass on I promise ya it will do ya the world of good I agree, come on The British and Irish lions, I knew you just couldn’t spit out the words England lol I don’t want to be labelled right wing mate, ![]() ![]() ![]() I will do and you enjoy that other game with the funny shaped ball I hope they win aswell | |||
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"Well, it basically went something like this: If you follow England (the team that is) you may be showing more of your Imperialistic tendencies than your Patriotic ones and if you are showing your Patriotic tendencies then you are probably an Ethnocentrist. Panel please discuss (radio programme, that is). Say what? Only the BBC could be this far behind the curve! ![]() Well when you include songs like “two world wars and one World Cup” “10 German bombers” and “no surrender to the IRA” you could understand why it could be perceived to be more jingoistic than nationalistic” | |||
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"Who has put down our 'country exactly?lionel petal you and your flower pots never say a good word about the U.K. all yous do is go on about our past and all the wrong the U.K. does in the world yas moan everyday about the U.K. lol England are playing an important match tnite get a few cams down ya neck and cheer the lass on I promise ya it will do ya the world of good I agree, come on The British and Irish lions, I knew you just couldn’t spit out the words England lol" Difference on a lions tour if you ever to go on one, is that the supporters sing all the songs from all the different countries… You sing Jerusalem, flower of Scotland, bread of heaven and molly malone, ect…it’s all inclusive | |||
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"Well, it basically went something like this: If you follow England (the team that is) you may be showing more of your Imperialistic tendencies than your Patriotic ones and if you are showing your Patriotic tendencies then you are probably an Ethnocentrist. Panel please discuss (radio programme, that is). Say what? Only the BBC could be this far behind the curve! ![]() Scandalous accusation | |||
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"Which was exactly the discussion." Well then maybe the answer is to stop singing them… and outing those that do! I’ve heard some horrendous songs being sung back in the day when I used to stand right at the back of the north bank at Highbury…. It stopped when people called out others for starting them! | |||
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"Who has put down our 'country exactly?lionel petal you and your flower pots never say a good word about the U.K. all yous do is go on about our past and all the wrong the U.K. does in the world yas moan everyday about the U.K. lol England are playing an important match tnite get a few cams down ya neck and cheer the lass on I promise ya it will do ya the world of good I agree, come on The British and Irish lions, I knew you just couldn’t spit out the words England lol Difference on a lions tour if you ever to go on one, is that the supporters sing all the songs from all the different countries… You sing Jerusalem, flower of Scotland, bread of heaven and molly malone, ect…it’s all inclusive " And you won’t hear any of the other songs that you referred to in your other post at an English Rugby international. | |||
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"Which was exactly the discussion. Well then maybe the answer is to stop singing them… and outing those that do! I’ve heard some horrendous songs being sung back in the day when I used to stand right at the back of the north bank at Highbury…. It stopped when people called out others for starting them!" same here fella and the racists we're not welcome either ![]() | |||
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"These days, you can get arrested snd thrown gaol just for saying you’re English, these days." ![]() | |||
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"What is the English national anthem anyway?" Something about god looking after the queen , | |||
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"What is the English national anthem anyway?" Jerusalem "green and pleasant land" etc etc... | |||
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"What is the English national anthem anyway? Jerusalem "green and pleasant land" etc etc..." Unfortunately the National anthem is god save the Queen | |||
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"What is the English national anthem anyway?" Trick question, there is no English national anthem. | |||
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"What is the English national anthem anyway? Trick question, there is no English national anthem." Correct. England doesn't have a national anthem | |||
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"What is the English national anthem anyway? Jerusalem "green and pleasant land" etc etc..." Religiously sung before any England cricket games! | |||
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"What is the English national anthem anyway? Trick question, there is no English national anthem." Yes, you are correct, I never knew that , every day is a school day | |||
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"What is the English national anthem anyway? Trick question, there is no English national anthem." So what is god save the queen then? | |||
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"What is the English national anthem anyway? Trick question, there is no English national anthem. So what is god save the queen then?" It’s the British national anthem. | |||
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"What is the English national anthem anyway? Jerusalem "green and pleasant land" etc etc... Religiously sung before any England cricket games! " ... and used at the Commonwealth Games. | |||
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"What is the English national anthem anyway? Jerusalem "green and pleasant land" etc etc... Religiously sung before any England cricket games! ... and used at the Commonwealth Games. " That’s probably because God Save the Queen is the royal anthem of the commonwealth countries that do not have their own royal anthem. Also Jerusalem is just as shit as gstq. | |||
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"What is the English national anthem anyway? Jerusalem "green and pleasant land" etc etc... Religiously sung before any England cricket games! ... and used at the Commonwealth Games. That’s probably because God Save the Queen is the royal anthem of the commonwealth countries that do not have their own royal anthem. Also Jerusalem is just as shit as gstq." Interestingly when the Commonwealth Games Council for England asked the public to decide which anthem to use, Jerusalem was a clear winner with 52%. Land of Hope and Glory second with 32% and God Save The Queen in third with 12%. | |||
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"What is the English national anthem anyway? Jerusalem "green and pleasant land" etc etc... Religiously sung before any England cricket games! ... and used at the Commonwealth Games. That’s probably because God Save the Queen is the royal anthem of the commonwealth countries that do not have their own royal anthem. Also Jerusalem is just as shit as gstq. Interestingly when the Commonwealth Games Council for England asked the public to decide which anthem to use, Jerusalem was a clear winner with 52%. Land of Hope and Glory second with 32% and God Save The Queen in third with 12%. " Which of these delicious pieces of shit would you like to eat sir, the horse shit, the cow shit, or the dog shit? | |||
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"What is the English national anthem anyway? Jerusalem "green and pleasant land" etc etc... Religiously sung before any England cricket games! ... and used at the Commonwealth Games. That’s probably because God Save the Queen is the royal anthem of the commonwealth countries that do not have their own royal anthem. Also Jerusalem is just as shit as gstq. Interestingly when the Commonwealth Games Council for England asked the public to decide which anthem to use, Jerusalem was a clear winner with 52%. Land of Hope and Glory second with 32% and God Save The Queen in third with 12%. Which of these delicious pieces of shit would you like to eat sir, the horse shit, the cow shit, or the dog shit?" ... get the feeling you haven't listened very much to the music of Parry or Elgar. | |||
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"What is the English national anthem anyway? Jerusalem "green and pleasant land" etc etc... Religiously sung before any England cricket games! ... and used at the Commonwealth Games. That’s probably because God Save the Queen is the royal anthem of the commonwealth countries that do not have their own royal anthem. Also Jerusalem is just as shit as gstq. Interestingly when the Commonwealth Games Council for England asked the public to decide which anthem to use, Jerusalem was a clear winner with 52%. Land of Hope and Glory second with 32% and God Save The Queen in third with 12%. Which of these delicious pieces of shit would you like to eat sir, the horse shit, the cow shit, or the dog shit? ... get the feeling you haven't listened very much to the music of Parry or Elgar. " I’ve listened to those three pieces and they are terrible. A religious wank fantasy, an divine excuse for empire, and a dirge. | |||
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"What is the English national anthem anyway? Jerusalem "green and pleasant land" etc etc... Religiously sung before any England cricket games! ... and used at the Commonwealth Games. That’s probably because God Save the Queen is the royal anthem of the commonwealth countries that do not have their own royal anthem. Also Jerusalem is just as shit as gstq. Interestingly when the Commonwealth Games Council for England asked the public to decide which anthem to use, Jerusalem was a clear winner with 52%. Land of Hope and Glory second with 32% and God Save The Queen in third with 12%. Which of these delicious pieces of shit would you like to eat sir, the horse shit, the cow shit, or the dog shit? ... get the feeling you haven't listened very much to the music of Parry or Elgar. I’ve listened to those three pieces and they are terrible. A religious wank fantasy, an divine excuse for empire, and a dirge." …. Ok, that convinces me - you’re Scottish, yes? ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"What is the English national anthem anyway? Jerusalem "green and pleasant land" etc etc... Religiously sung before any England cricket games! ... and used at the Commonwealth Games. That’s probably because God Save the Queen is the royal anthem of the commonwealth countries that do not have their own royal anthem. Also Jerusalem is just as shit as gstq. Interestingly when the Commonwealth Games Council for England asked the public to decide which anthem to use, Jerusalem was a clear winner with 52%. Land of Hope and Glory second with 32% and God Save The Queen in third with 12%. Which of these delicious pieces of shit would you like to eat sir, the horse shit, the cow shit, or the dog shit? ... get the feeling you haven't listened very much to the music of Parry or Elgar. I’ve listened to those three pieces and they are terrible. A religious wank fantasy, an divine excuse for empire, and a dirge. …. Ok, that convinces me - you’re Scottish, yes? ![]() ![]() ![]() Oh dear no, Flower of Scotland is every bit as bad. | |||
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"What is the English national anthem anyway? Jerusalem "green and pleasant land" etc etc... Religiously sung before any England cricket games! ... and used at the Commonwealth Games. That’s probably because God Save the Queen is the royal anthem of the commonwealth countries that do not have their own royal anthem. Also Jerusalem is just as shit as gstq. Interestingly when the Commonwealth Games Council for England asked the public to decide which anthem to use, Jerusalem was a clear winner with 52%. Land of Hope and Glory second with 32% and God Save The Queen in third with 12%. Which of these delicious pieces of shit would you like to eat sir, the horse shit, the cow shit, or the dog shit? ... get the feeling you haven't listened very much to the music of Parry or Elgar. I’ve listened to those three pieces and they are terrible. A religious wank fantasy, an divine excuse for empire, and a dirge. …. Ok, that convinces me - you’re Scottish, yes? ![]() ![]() ![]() I was glad ![]() | |||
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"What is the English national anthem anyway? Jerusalem "green and pleasant land" etc etc... Religiously sung before any England cricket games! ... and used at the Commonwealth Games. That’s probably because God Save the Queen is the royal anthem of the commonwealth countries that do not have their own royal anthem. Also Jerusalem is just as shit as gstq. Interestingly when the Commonwealth Games Council for England asked the public to decide which anthem to use, Jerusalem was a clear winner with 52%. Land of Hope and Glory second with 32% and God Save The Queen in third with 12%. Which of these delicious pieces of shit would you like to eat sir, the horse shit, the cow shit, or the dog shit? ... get the feeling you haven't listened very much to the music of Parry or Elgar. I’ve listened to those three pieces and they are terrible. A religious wank fantasy, an divine excuse for empire, and a dirge. …. Ok, that convinces me - you’re Scottish, yes? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Something stirring like the Marseillaise would be better. | |||
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"What is the English national anthem anyway? Trick question, there is no English national anthem. Correct. England doesn't have a national anthem" Indeed. So why not write one? Pretty Vacant, by the Sex Pistols might do, until you come up with something even more representative. ![]() | |||
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"Our ‘patriotism’ ended after the 2012 London Olympics opening ceremony…a true celebration of the best of us: inclusivity, the NHS, diversity, tolerance, the massive contribution of working people since the industrial revolution…since then successive tories have wrapped themselves in the flag and exploited division and fear of outsiders…the ‘nasty’ party have screwed us big time…and screwed ‘one nation’ tories who we might not agree with but had a genuine sense of public service " ![]() | |||
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"Our ‘patriotism’ ended after the 2012 London Olympics opening ceremony…a true celebration of the best of us: inclusivity, the NHS, diversity, tolerance, the massive contribution of working people since the industrial revolution…since then successive tories have wrapped themselves in the flag and exploited division and fear of outsiders…the ‘nasty’ party have screwed us big time…and screwed ‘one nation’ tories who we might not agree with but had a genuine sense of public service " I was a long time Conservative voter. Not anymore. | |||
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