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"Hmmm nothing to do with lack of tourists and businessmen in London then? " Not according to the owner, | |||
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"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57555608 A Michelin-star restaurant has said it will no longer open at lunchtimes due to a shortage of staff. David Moore, the founder of Pied à Terre in London, said he decided to halt the restaurant's lunchtime menu to "preserve" his depleted workforce. Mr Moore said Brexit was "definitely the biggest" factor behind staff shortages, and he said the "heartbeat" of the hospitality industry was "young kids" coming from abroad to work in restaurants and bars to gain life experience and new skills." Not to mention lack of staff that are willing to work for next to fuck all  | |||
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"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57555608 A Michelin-star restaurant has said it will no longer open at lunchtimes due to a shortage of staff. David Moore, the founder of Pied à Terre in London, said he decided to halt the restaurant's lunchtime menu to "preserve" his depleted workforce. Mr Moore said Brexit was "definitely the biggest" factor behind staff shortages, and he said the "heartbeat" of the hospitality industry was "young kids" coming from abroad to work in restaurants and bars to gain life experience and new skills. Not to mention lack of staff that are willing to work for next to fuck all "So in December last year thousands of Europeans were prepared to, as you say, work for fuck all and yet in January this year thousands suddenly weren’t. What could possibly have changed? | |||
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"Brexit bingo excuse cards at the ready everyone. Straight out the traps at no1...Covid" Bingo... David Moore said it himself  | |||
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"Brexit bingo excuse cards at the ready everyone. Straight out the traps at no1...Covid" | |||
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"Brexit bingo excuse cards at the ready everyone. Straight out the traps at no1...Covid" The EU Labour Party | |||
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"“ We want employers to focus on training and investing in our domestic work force, rather than relying on labour from abroad” Such an obvious statement to make "And the training is given once they are employed. Sadly when they advertise for staff the response in the UK is,,, erm no thanks. Working in restaurants is considered a temporary job in the Uk unless you’re a chef. The guy quoted said money isn’t drawing people in either. | |||
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"There's been bad press around the hospitality trade for a few years now. Low wages, bullying, long hours, little prospects etc. It seems to have gained a tag of being at the bottom of the UK jobs ladder, whereas around the world, ita a more attractive proposition. "
It’s very easy to change this, however many hospitality businesses would rather take the easy option. | |||
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"There's been bad press around the hospitality trade for a few years now. Low wages, bullying, long hours, little prospects etc. It seems to have gained a tag of being at the bottom of the UK jobs ladder, whereas around the world, ita a more attractive proposition.
It’s very easy to change this, however many hospitality businesses would rather take the easy option."What is the ‘easy’ solution? | |||
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"There's been bad press around the hospitality trade for a few years now. Low wages, bullying, long hours, little prospects etc. It seems to have gained a tag of being at the bottom of the UK jobs ladder, whereas around the world, ita a more attractive proposition.
It’s very easy to change this, however many hospitality businesses would rather take the easy option.
What is the ‘easy’ solution? "Not paying decent wages? | |||
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"There's been bad press around the hospitality trade for a few years now. Low wages, bullying, long hours, little prospects etc. It seems to have gained a tag of being at the bottom of the UK jobs ladder, whereas around the world, ita a more attractive proposition.
It’s very easy to change this, however many hospitality businesses would rather take the easy option.
What is the ‘easy’ solution?
Not paying decent wages?"Or they could force English people to do ‘English ‘jobs | |||
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"There's been bad press around the hospitality trade for a few years now. Low wages, bullying, long hours, little prospects etc. It seems to have gained a tag of being at the bottom of the UK jobs ladder, whereas around the world, ita a more attractive proposition.
It’s very easy to change this, however many hospitality businesses would rather take the easy option.
What is the ‘easy’ solution? "Collaborate and incentivise. | |||
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"There's been bad press around the hospitality trade for a few years now. Low wages, bullying, long hours, little prospects etc. It seems to have gained a tag of being at the bottom of the UK jobs ladder, whereas around the world, ita a more attractive proposition.
It’s very easy to change this, however many hospitality businesses would rather take the easy option.
What is the ‘easy’ solution?
Collaborate and incentivise."How would that work? | |||
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"There's been bad press around the hospitality trade for a few years now. Low wages, bullying, long hours, little prospects etc. It seems to have gained a tag of being at the bottom of the UK jobs ladder, whereas around the world, ita a more attractive proposition.
It’s very easy to change this, however many hospitality businesses would rather take the easy option.
What is the ‘easy’ solution?
Collaborate and incentivise."Appreciate and reward. | |||
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"There's been bad press around the hospitality trade for a few years now. Low wages, bullying, long hours, little prospects etc. It seems to have gained a tag of being at the bottom of the UK jobs ladder, whereas around the world, ita a more attractive proposition.
It’s very easy to change this, however many hospitality businesses would rather take the easy option.
What is the ‘easy’ solution?
Collaborate and incentivise.
How would that work? "It works because it engages people with the prospect of skills, purpose and the potential to earn. It works because the hospitality business becomes involved and invested in the process of engaging people, the reward being a stream of people who actually want to work in the industry | |||
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"There's been bad press around the hospitality trade for a few years now. Low wages, bullying, long hours, little prospects etc. It seems to have gained a tag of being at the bottom of the UK jobs ladder, whereas around the world, ita a more attractive proposition.
It’s very easy to change this, however many hospitality businesses would rather take the easy option.
What is the ‘easy’ solution?
Collaborate and incentivise.
How would that work?
It works because it engages people with the prospect of skills, purpose and the potential to earn.
It works because the hospitality business becomes involved and invested in the process of engaging people, the reward being a stream of people who actually want to work in the industry "How would it be implemented? It sounds a great idea on paper, but let’s be honest, it’s all about money | |||
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"There's been bad press around the hospitality trade for a few years now. Low wages, bullying, long hours, little prospects etc. It seems to have gained a tag of being at the bottom of the UK jobs ladder, whereas around the world, ita a more attractive proposition.
It’s very easy to change this, however many hospitality businesses would rather take the easy option.
What is the ‘easy’ solution?
Collaborate and incentivise.
How would that work?
It works because it engages people with the prospect of skills, purpose and the potential to earn.
It works because the hospitality business becomes involved and invested in the process of engaging people, the reward being a stream of people who actually want to work in the industry
How would it be implemented? It sounds a great idea on paper, but let’s be honest, it’s all about money "What would people pay in this country for a good meal and service? | |||
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"There's been bad press around the hospitality trade for a few years now. Low wages, bullying, long hours, little prospects etc. It seems to have gained a tag of being at the bottom of the UK jobs ladder, whereas around the world, ita a more attractive proposition.
It’s very easy to change this, however many hospitality businesses would rather take the easy option.
What is the ‘easy’ solution?
Collaborate and incentivise.
How would that work?
It works because it engages people with the prospect of skills, purpose and the potential to earn.
It works because the hospitality business becomes involved and invested in the process of engaging people, the reward being a stream of people who actually want to work in the industry
How would it be implemented? It sounds a great idea on paper, but let’s be honest, it’s all about money
What would people pay in this country for a good meal and service?
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"Millionaire owner, David Moore, might get more sympathy if he actually paid a decent wage! A recent job advert gave a wage of £9.50/hr. The Living Wage in London is £10.85/hr." But but but... Brexit is the problem. | |||
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"Millionaire owner, David Moore, might get more sympathy if he actually paid a decent wage! A recent job advert gave a wage of £9.50/hr. The Living Wage in London is £10.85/hr." So it’s all about the wages? | |||
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"Millionaire owner, David Moore, might get more sympathy if he actually paid a decent wage! A recent job advert gave a wage of £9.50/hr. The Living Wage in London is £10.85/hr. So it’s all about the wages? " Would you do shift work in London for £9.50/hour? If so, apply within. | |||
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"Millionaire owner, David Moore, might get more sympathy if he actually paid a decent wage! A recent job advert gave a wage of £9.50/hr. The Living Wage in London is £10.85/hr. So it’s all about the wages? Would you do shift work in London for £9.50/hour? If so, apply within. " No I wouldn’t, they didn’t have trouble finding staff before though ? | |||
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"Millionaire owner, David Moore, might get more sympathy if he actually paid a decent wage! A recent job advert gave a wage of £9.50/hr. The Living Wage in London is £10.85/hr. So it’s all about the wages? " It's not all about wages but it certainly helps make a business more attractive to potential employees if they are willing to pay a decent wage | |||
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"Millionaire owner, David Moore, might get more sympathy if he actually paid a decent wage! A recent job advert gave a wage of £9.50/hr. The Living Wage in London is £10.85/hr. So it’s all about the wages? Would you do shift work in London for £9.50/hour? If so, apply within. No I wouldn’t, they didn’t have trouble finding staff before though ? " Eastern European minimum wage levels are well short of ours. £9.50/hr is probably more attractive to them. The solution here, is to align an attractive wage with making the hospitality profession as equally attractive, so UK workers want to work in those jobs. | |||
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"Millionaire owner, David Moore, might get more sympathy if he actually paid a decent wage! A recent job advert gave a wage of £9.50/hr. The Living Wage in London is £10.85/hr. So it’s all about the wages? Would you do shift work in London for £9.50/hour? If so, apply within. No I wouldn’t, they didn’t have trouble finding staff before though ? Eastern European minimum wage levels are well short of ours. £9.50/hr is probably more attractive to them. The solution here, is to align an attractive wage with making the hospitality profession as equally attractive, so UK workers want to work in those jobs. " Ah, so we have to increase wages and increase costs to the consumer and in turn make eating out too expensive for some people? | |||
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"I'm gonna play my psychic game again. Not bothering to read the thread, I predict the problem is supposedly nothing to do with Brexit. Far more likely, it's the fault of Covid. " Your good, | |||
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"I'm gonna play my psychic game again. Not bothering to read the thread, I predict the problem is supposedly nothing to do with Brexit. Far more likely, it's the fault of Covid. Your good, "I knew you were gonna say that too. I'm psychich, ya know. | |||
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"I'm gonna play my psychic game again. Not bothering to read the thread, I predict the problem is supposedly nothing to do with Brexit. Far more likely, it's the fault of Covid. Your good,
I knew you were gonna say that too. I'm psychich, ya know. "Impressed , but you already knew that  | |||
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"Millionaire owner, David Moore, might get more sympathy if he actually paid a decent wage! A recent job advert gave a wage of £9.50/hr. The Living Wage in London is £10.85/hr. So it’s all about the wages? Would you do shift work in London for £9.50/hour? If so, apply within. No I wouldn’t, they didn’t have trouble finding staff before though ? Eastern European minimum wage levels are well short of ours. £9.50/hr is probably more attractive to them. The solution here, is to align an attractive wage with making the hospitality profession as equally attractive, so UK workers want to work in those jobs. Ah, so we have to increase wages and increase costs to the consumer and in turn make eating out too expensive for some people? " Not necessarily. Ever been to a Michelin restaurant? | |||
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"Millionaire owner, David Moore, might get more sympathy if he actually paid a decent wage! A recent job advert gave a wage of £9.50/hr. The Living Wage in London is £10.85/hr. So it’s all about the wages? Would you do shift work in London for £9.50/hour? If so, apply within. No I wouldn’t, they didn’t have trouble finding staff before though ? Eastern European minimum wage levels are well short of ours. £9.50/hr is probably more attractive to them. The solution here, is to align an attractive wage with making the hospitality profession as equally attractive, so UK workers want to work in those jobs. Ah, so we have to increase wages and increase costs to the consumer and in turn make eating out too expensive for some people? Not necessarily. Ever been to a Michelin restaurant? " Yep, some are extremely expensive, others less so. Are you suggesting that wages should only be increased at ‘high end’ restaurants or across the board? | |||
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"Millionaire owner, David Moore, might get more sympathy if he actually paid a decent wage! A recent job advert gave a wage of £9.50/hr. The Living Wage in London is £10.85/hr. So it’s all about the wages? Would you do shift work in London for £9.50/hour? If so, apply within. No I wouldn’t, they didn’t have trouble finding staff before though ? Eastern European minimum wage levels are well short of ours. £9.50/hr is probably more attractive to them. The solution here, is to align an attractive wage with making the hospitality profession as equally attractive, so UK workers want to work in those jobs. Ah, so we have to increase wages and increase costs to the consumer and in turn make eating out too expensive for some people? Not necessarily. Ever been to a Michelin restaurant? Yep, some are extremely expensive, others less so. Are you suggesting that wages should only be increased at ‘high end’ restaurants or across the board? " Not at all. But when a Michelin restaurant is paying less than MacDonalds and Amazon, then its right to question that. Bringing in the cheapest labour does not help UK workers. You have to make the trade attractive to be in. Make your workers feel valued, train them, show them a career path and you will get results. Taking away the "long hours, bad pay" charactisation of hospitality is a good starting point. | |||
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"Millionaire owner, David Moore, might get more sympathy if he actually paid a decent wage! A recent job advert gave a wage of £9.50/hr. The Living Wage in London is £10.85/hr. So it’s all about the wages? Would you do shift work in London for £9.50/hour? If so, apply within. No I wouldn’t, they didn’t have trouble finding staff before though ? Eastern European minimum wage levels are well short of ours. £9.50/hr is probably more attractive to them. The solution here, is to align an attractive wage with making the hospitality profession as equally attractive, so UK workers want to work in those jobs. Ah, so we have to increase wages and increase costs to the consumer and in turn make eating out too expensive for some people? Not necessarily. Ever been to a Michelin restaurant? Yep, some are extremely expensive, others less so. Are you suggesting that wages should only be increased at ‘high end’ restaurants or across the board? Not at all. But when a Michelin restaurant is paying less than MacDonalds and Amazon, then its right to question that. Bringing in the cheapest labour does not help UK workers. You have to make the trade attractive to be in. Make your workers feel valued, train them, show them a career path and you will get results. Taking away the "long hours, bad pay" charactisation of hospitality is a good starting point." True, but that will make it more expensive for the consumer, let’s hope people are will to pay more for their meals now they will be served by English staff instead of staff from the EU | |||
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"Millionaire owner, David Moore, might get more sympathy if he actually paid a decent wage! A recent job advert gave a wage of £9.50/hr. The Living Wage in London is £10.85/hr. So it’s all about the wages? Would you do shift work in London for £9.50/hour? If so, apply within. No I wouldn’t, they didn’t have trouble finding staff before though ? Eastern European minimum wage levels are well short of ours. £9.50/hr is probably more attractive to them. The solution here, is to align an attractive wage with making the hospitality profession as equally attractive, so UK workers want to work in those jobs. Ah, so we have to increase wages and increase costs to the consumer and in turn make eating out too expensive for some people? Not necessarily. Ever been to a Michelin restaurant? Yep, some are extremely expensive, others less so. Are you suggesting that wages should only be increased at ‘high end’ restaurants or across the board? Not at all. But when a Michelin restaurant is paying less than MacDonalds and Amazon, then its right to question that. Bringing in the cheapest labour does not help UK workers. You have to make the trade attractive to be in. Make your workers feel valued, train them, show them a career path and you will get results. Taking away the "long hours, bad pay" charactisation of hospitality is a good starting point. True, but that will make it more expensive for the consumer, let’s hope people are will to pay more for their meals now they will be served by English staff instead of staff from the EU " Why would it inflate prices for consumers? Those rich people you hate so much, the ones who own them will just have to take less profit. 2019 figures say the company has the funds to make that happen. | |||
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"Millionaire owner, David Moore, might get more sympathy if he actually paid a decent wage! A recent job advert gave a wage of £9.50/hr. The Living Wage in London is £10.85/hr. So it’s all about the wages? Would you do shift work in London for £9.50/hour? If so, apply within. No I wouldn’t, they didn’t have trouble finding staff before though ? Eastern European minimum wage levels are well short of ours. £9.50/hr is probably more attractive to them. The solution here, is to align an attractive wage with making the hospitality profession as equally attractive, so UK workers want to work in those jobs. Ah, so we have to increase wages and increase costs to the consumer and in turn make eating out too expensive for some people? Not necessarily. Ever been to a Michelin restaurant? Yep, some are extremely expensive, others less so. Are you suggesting that wages should only be increased at ‘high end’ restaurants or across the board? Not at all. But when a Michelin restaurant is paying less than MacDonalds and Amazon, then its right to question that. Bringing in the cheapest labour does not help UK workers. You have to make the trade attractive to be in. Make your workers feel valued, train them, show them a career path and you will get results. Taking away the "long hours, bad pay" charactisation of hospitality is a good starting point. True, but that will make it more expensive for the consumer, let’s hope people are will to pay more for their meals now they will be served by English staff instead of staff from the EU " And thats the trade off. But people who frequent Michelin restaurants probably won't notice if they spend £550 on dinner, rather than £500. | |||
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"Millionaire owner, David Moore, might get more sympathy if he actually paid a decent wage! A recent job advert gave a wage of £9.50/hr. The Living Wage in London is £10.85/hr. So it’s all about the wages? Would you do shift work in London for £9.50/hour? If so, apply within. No I wouldn’t, they didn’t have trouble finding staff before though ? Eastern European minimum wage levels are well short of ours. £9.50/hr is probably more attractive to them. The solution here, is to align an attractive wage with making the hospitality profession as equally attractive, so UK workers want to work in those jobs. Ah, so we have to increase wages and increase costs to the consumer and in turn make eating out too expensive for some people? Not necessarily. Ever been to a Michelin restaurant? Yep, some are extremely expensive, others less so. Are you suggesting that wages should only be increased at ‘high end’ restaurants or across the board? Not at all. But when a Michelin restaurant is paying less than MacDonalds and Amazon, then its right to question that. Bringing in the cheapest labour does not help UK workers. You have to make the trade attractive to be in. Make your workers feel valued, train them, show them a career path and you will get results. Taking away the "long hours, bad pay" charactisation of hospitality is a good starting point. True, but that will make it more expensive for the consumer, let’s hope people are will to pay more for their meals now they will be served by English staff instead of staff from the EU And thats the trade off. But people who frequent Michelin restaurants probably won't notice if they spend £550 on dinner, rather than £500. " I am not only taking about high end restaurants, people will have to pay extra across the board . And it isn’t just restaurants, it’s hotels , cafes, pubs, bars etc etc | |||
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"Millionaire owner, David Moore, might get more sympathy if he actually paid a decent wage! A recent job advert gave a wage of £9.50/hr. The Living Wage in London is £10.85/hr. So it’s all about the wages? Would you do shift work in London for £9.50/hour? If so, apply within. No I wouldn’t, they didn’t have trouble finding staff before though ? Eastern European minimum wage levels are well short of ours. £9.50/hr is probably more attractive to them. The solution here, is to align an attractive wage with making the hospitality profession as equally attractive, so UK workers want to work in those jobs. Ah, so we have to increase wages and increase costs to the consumer and in turn make eating out too expensive for some people? Not necessarily. Ever been to a Michelin restaurant? Yep, some are extremely expensive, others less so. Are you suggesting that wages should only be increased at ‘high end’ restaurants or across the board? Not at all. But when a Michelin restaurant is paying less than MacDonalds and Amazon, then its right to question that. Bringing in the cheapest labour does not help UK workers. You have to make the trade attractive to be in. Make your workers feel valued, train them, show them a career path and you will get results. Taking away the "long hours, bad pay" charactisation of hospitality is a good starting point. True, but that will make it more expensive for the consumer, let’s hope people are will to pay more for their meals now they will be served by English staff instead of staff from the EU And thats the trade off. But people who frequent Michelin restaurants probably won't notice if they spend £550 on dinner, rather than £500. I am not only taking about high end restaurants, people will have to pay extra across the board . And it isn’t just restaurants, it’s hotels , cafes, pubs, bars etc etc " Hospitality venues are already recovering their covid costs but I have no objection to a 10-15% price raise to pay hospitality workers more. Others may disagree. | |||
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"Millionaire owner, David Moore, might get more sympathy if he actually paid a decent wage! A recent job advert gave a wage of £9.50/hr. The Living Wage in London is £10.85/hr. So it’s all about the wages? Would you do shift work in London for £9.50/hour? If so, apply within. No I wouldn’t, they didn’t have trouble finding staff before though ? Eastern European minimum wage levels are well short of ours. £9.50/hr is probably more attractive to them. The solution here, is to align an attractive wage with making the hospitality profession as equally attractive, so UK workers want to work in those jobs. Ah, so we have to increase wages and increase costs to the consumer and in turn make eating out too expensive for some people? Not necessarily. Ever been to a Michelin restaurant? Yep, some are extremely expensive, others less so. Are you suggesting that wages should only be increased at ‘high end’ restaurants or across the board? Not at all. But when a Michelin restaurant is paying less than MacDonalds and Amazon, then its right to question that. Bringing in the cheapest labour does not help UK workers. You have to make the trade attractive to be in. Make your workers feel valued, train them, show them a career path and you will get results. Taking away the "long hours, bad pay" charactisation of hospitality is a good starting point. True, but that will make it more expensive for the consumer, let’s hope people are will to pay more for their meals now they will be served by English staff instead of staff from the EU And thats the trade off. But people who frequent Michelin restaurants probably won't notice if they spend £550 on dinner, rather than £500. I am not only taking about high end restaurants, people will have to pay extra across the board . And it isn’t just restaurants, it’s hotels , cafes, pubs, bars etc etc Hospitality venues are already recovering their covid costs but I have no objection to a 10-15% price raise to pay hospitality workers more. Others may disagree. " Depends on how much you can afford, cleaners, waiters, bar staff, reception staff will all need paying extra ? Less people will be eating or drinking out as often , less places will be able to stay open meaning less jobs .  | |||
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"Millionaire owner, David Moore, might get more sympathy if he actually paid a decent wage! A recent job advert gave a wage of £9.50/hr. The Living Wage in London is £10.85/hr. So it’s all about the wages? Would you do shift work in London for £9.50/hour? If so, apply within. No I wouldn’t, they didn’t have trouble finding staff before though ? Eastern European minimum wage levels are well short of ours. £9.50/hr is probably more attractive to them. The solution here, is to align an attractive wage with making the hospitality profession as equally attractive, so UK workers want to work in those jobs. " also most English workers live on there own or with partner and kids so have higher bills a lot of foreign workers live together and share the bills so more for them self's. | |||
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"There's been bad press around the hospitality trade for a few years now. Low wages, bullying, long hours, little prospects etc. It seems to have gained a tag of being at the bottom of the UK jobs ladder, whereas around the world, ita a more attractive proposition.
It’s very easy to change this, however many hospitality businesses would rather take the easy option.
What is the ‘easy’ solution?
Not paying decent wages?
Or they could force English people to do ‘English ‘jobs "I remember a panaroma documentary where they tried to get the unemployed English people to do the fruit picking and the intensive factory jobs…. Oh how I laughed! | |||
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"There's been bad press around the hospitality trade for a few years now. Low wages, bullying, long hours, little prospects etc. It seems to have gained a tag of being at the bottom of the UK jobs ladder, whereas around the world, ita a more attractive proposition.
It’s very easy to change this, however many hospitality businesses would rather take the easy option.
What is the ‘easy’ solution?
Not paying decent wages?
Or they could force English people to do ‘English ‘jobs
I remember a panaroma documentary where they tried to get the unemployed English people to do the fruit picking and the intensive factory jobs…. Oh how I laughed! "So we have brought up some to think they dont need to work but still receive benefits, about sums up the problem the uk has. | |||
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"There's been bad press around the hospitality trade for a few years now. Low wages, bullying, long hours, little prospects etc. It seems to have gained a tag of being at the bottom of the UK jobs ladder, whereas around the world, ita a more attractive proposition.
It’s very easy to change this, however many hospitality businesses would rather take the easy option.
What is the ‘easy’ solution?
Not paying decent wages?
Or they could force English people to do ‘English ‘jobs
I remember a panaroma documentary where they tried to get the unemployed English people to do the fruit picking and the intensive factory jobs…. Oh how I laughed!
So we have brought up some to think they dont need to work but still receive benefits, about sums up the problem the uk has."How much is job seekers allowance these days? | |||
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"There's been bad press around the hospitality trade for a few years now. Low wages, bullying, long hours, little prospects etc. It seems to have gained a tag of being at the bottom of the UK jobs ladder, whereas around the world, ita a more attractive proposition.
It’s very easy to change this, however many hospitality businesses would rather take the easy option.
What is the ‘easy’ solution?
Not paying decent wages?
Or they could force English people to do ‘English ‘jobs
I remember a panaroma documentary where they tried to get the unemployed English people to do the fruit picking and the intensive factory jobs…. Oh how I laughed!
So we have brought up some to think they dont need to work but still receive benefits, about sums up the problem the uk has.
How much is job seekers allowance these days? "What has that got to do with anything, if people wont contribute why should society contribute to them. | |||
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"There's been bad press around the hospitality trade for a few years now. Low wages, bullying, long hours, little prospects etc. It seems to have gained a tag of being at the bottom of the UK jobs ladder, whereas around the world, ita a more attractive proposition.
It’s very easy to change this, however many hospitality businesses would rather take the easy option.
What is the ‘easy’ solution?
Not paying decent wages?
Or they could force English people to do ‘English ‘jobs
I remember a panaroma documentary where they tried to get the unemployed English people to do the fruit picking and the intensive factory jobs…. Oh how I laughed!
So we have brought up some to think they dont need to work but still receive benefits, about sums up the problem the uk has.
How much is job seekers allowance these days?
What has that got to do with anything, if people wont contribute why should society contribute to them. "How much is it? | |||
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"There's been bad press around the hospitality trade for a few years now. Low wages, bullying, long hours, little prospects etc. It seems to have gained a tag of being at the bottom of the UK jobs ladder, whereas around the world, ita a more attractive proposition.
It’s very easy to change this, however many hospitality businesses would rather take the easy option.
What is the ‘easy’ solution?
Not paying decent wages?
Or they could force English people to do ‘English ‘jobs
I remember a panaroma documentary where they tried to get the unemployed English people to do the fruit picking and the intensive factory jobs…. Oh how I laughed!
So we have brought up some to think they dont need to work but still receive benefits, about sums up the problem the uk has."You do realise you're literally describing the likes of Johnson right there. He thinks he doesn't need to work, but he still receives benefits... | |||
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"There's been bad press around the hospitality trade for a few years now. Low wages, bullying, long hours, little prospects etc. It seems to have gained a tag of being at the bottom of the UK jobs ladder, whereas around the world, ita a more attractive proposition.
It’s very easy to change this, however many hospitality businesses would rather take the easy option.
What is the ‘easy’ solution?
Not paying decent wages?
Or they could force English people to do ‘English ‘jobs
I remember a panaroma documentary where they tried to get the unemployed English people to do the fruit picking and the intensive factory jobs…. Oh how I laughed!
So we have brought up some to think they dont need to work but still receive benefits, about sums up the problem the uk has.
You do realise you're literally describing the likes of Johnson right there. He thinks he doesn't need to work, but he still receives benefits..."Strangely enough I thought he had a job | |||
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"There's been bad press around the hospitality trade for a few years now. Low wages, bullying, long hours, little prospects etc. It seems to have gained a tag of being at the bottom of the UK jobs ladder, whereas around the world, ita a more attractive proposition.
It’s very easy to change this, however many hospitality businesses would rather take the easy option.
What is the ‘easy’ solution?
Not paying decent wages?
Or they could force English people to do ‘English ‘jobs
I remember a panaroma documentary where they tried to get the unemployed English people to do the fruit picking and the intensive factory jobs…. Oh how I laughed!
So we have brought up some to think they dont need to work but still receive benefits, about sums up the problem the uk has.
You do realise you're literally describing the likes of Johnson right there. He thinks he doesn't need to work, but he still receives benefits...
Strangely enough I thought he had a job"He's supposed to have a job. He blatantly isn't bothering to do it. | |||
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"There's been bad press around the hospitality trade for a few years now. Low wages, bullying, long hours, little prospects etc. It seems to have gained a tag of being at the bottom of the UK jobs ladder, whereas around the world, ita a more attractive proposition.
It’s very easy to change this, however many hospitality businesses would rather take the easy option.
What is the ‘easy’ solution?
Not paying decent wages?
Or they could force English people to do ‘English ‘jobs
I remember a panaroma documentary where they tried to get the unemployed English people to do the fruit picking and the intensive factory jobs…. Oh how I laughed!
So we have brought up some to think they dont need to work but still receive benefits, about sums up the problem the uk has.
You do realise you're literally describing the likes of Johnson right there. He thinks he doesn't need to work, but he still receives benefits...
Strangely enough I thought he had a job
He's supposed to have a job. He blatantly isn't bothering to do it."So that was a blow up doll at the G7 and PMQs and for the covid announcements. | |||
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"There's been bad press around the hospitality trade for a few years now. Low wages, bullying, long hours, little prospects etc. It seems to have gained a tag of being at the bottom of the UK jobs ladder, whereas around the world, ita a more attractive proposition.
It’s very easy to change this, however many hospitality businesses would rather take the easy option.
What is the ‘easy’ solution?
Not paying decent wages?
Or they could force English people to do ‘English ‘jobs
I remember a panaroma documentary where they tried to get the unemployed English people to do the fruit picking and the intensive factory jobs…. Oh how I laughed!
So we have brought up some to think they dont need to work but still receive benefits, about sums up the problem the uk has.
You do realise you're literally describing the likes of Johnson right there. He thinks he doesn't need to work, but he still receives benefits...
Strangely enough I thought he had a job
He's supposed to have a job. He blatantly isn't bothering to do it.
So that was a blow up doll at the G7 and PMQs and for the covid announcements. "Yeah, | |||
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"There's been bad press around the hospitality trade for a few years now. Low wages, bullying, long hours, little prospects etc. It seems to have gained a tag of being at the bottom of the UK jobs ladder, whereas around the world, ita a more attractive proposition.
It’s very easy to change this, however many hospitality businesses would rather take the easy option.
What is the ‘easy’ solution?
Not paying decent wages?
Or they could force English people to do ‘English ‘jobs
I remember a panaroma documentary where they tried to get the unemployed English people to do the fruit picking and the intensive factory jobs…. Oh how I laughed!
So we have brought up some to think they dont need to work but still receive benefits, about sums up the problem the uk has.
You do realise you're literally describing the likes of Johnson right there. He thinks he doesn't need to work, but he still receives benefits...
Strangely enough I thought he had a job
He's supposed to have a job. He blatantly isn't bothering to do it.
So that was a blow up doll at the G7 and PMQs and for the covid announcements. "Looked more like a muppet that escaped from Sesame Street. | |||
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"Millionaire owner, David Moore, might get more sympathy if he actually paid a decent wage! A recent job advert gave a wage of £9.50/hr. The Living Wage in London is £10.85/hr. So it’s all about the wages? Would you do shift work in London for £9.50/hour? If so, apply within. No I wouldn’t, they didn’t have trouble finding staff before though ? " Always been morally suspect to be happy seeing foreigners doing work for lower wages than we would consider acceptable. I’ve written extensively on this before. | |||
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"Millionaire owner, David Moore, might get more sympathy if he actually paid a decent wage! A recent job advert gave a wage of £9.50/hr. The Living Wage in London is £10.85/hr. So it’s all about the wages? Would you do shift work in London for £9.50/hour? If so, apply within. No I wouldn’t, they didn’t have trouble finding staff before though ? Always been morally suspect to be happy seeing foreigners doing work for lower wages than we would consider acceptable. I’ve written extensively on this before. " Have you, where? | |||
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"Millionaire owner, David Moore, might get more sympathy if he actually paid a decent wage! A recent job advert gave a wage of £9.50/hr. The Living Wage in London is £10.85/hr. So it’s all about the wages? Would you do shift work in London for £9.50/hour? If so, apply within. No I wouldn’t, they didn’t have trouble finding staff before though ? Always been morally suspect to be happy seeing foreigners doing work for lower wages than we would consider acceptable. I’ve written extensively on this before. Have you, where? " They reposted Daily Mail headlines, is what they mean. | |||
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"Remind the number of unemployed we have. Looks like the uk has a lot of lazy people in it" I thought you knew that befors the Brexit vote ? We knew what we were voting for !! | |||
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"Remind the number of unemployed we have. Looks like the uk has a lot of lazy people in it I thought you knew that befors the Brexit vote ? We knew what we were voting for !!" They have no where to hide now, no one can have a free ride. | |||
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"Millionaire owner, David Moore, might get more sympathy if he actually paid a decent wage! A recent job advert gave a wage of £9.50/hr. The Living Wage in London is £10.85/hr. So it’s all about the wages? Would you do shift work in London for £9.50/hour? If so, apply within. No I wouldn’t, they didn’t have trouble finding staff before though ? Always been morally suspect to be happy seeing foreigners doing work for lower wages than we would consider acceptable. I’ve written extensively on this before. " Dont forget the 12% tips on a £100 headfood sitting Only takes a couple of bottles of fine wine to boost the Income . | |||
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"Remind the number of unemployed we have. Looks like the uk has a lot of lazy people in it I thought you knew that befors the Brexit vote ? We knew what we were voting for !! They have no where to hide now, no one can have a free ride." Who has nowhere to hide? And what's this free ride you're talking about? | |||
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"Remind the number of unemployed we have. Looks like the uk has a lot of lazy people in it I thought you knew that befors the Brexit vote ? We knew what we were voting for !! They have no where to hide now, no one can have a free ride. Who has nowhere to hide? And what's this free ride you're talking about?" Living on the dole with no intention of working. | |||
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"Remind the number of unemployed we have. Looks like the uk has a lot of lazy people in it I thought you knew that befors the Brexit vote ? We knew what we were voting for !! They have no where to hide now, no one can have a free ride. Who has nowhere to hide? And what's this free ride you're talking about? Living on the dole with no intention of working. " And they're hiding are they? how do you know about them if they're secreted away? And you really think loads of people choose to have lives barely surviving on a pittance? | |||
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"Remind the number of unemployed we have. Looks like the uk has a lot of lazy people in it I thought you knew that befors the Brexit vote ? We knew what we were voting for !! They have no where to hide now, no one can have a free ride. Who has nowhere to hide? And what's this free ride you're talking about? Living on the dole with no intention of working. And they're hiding are they? how do you know about them if they're secreted away? And you really think loads of people choose to have lives barely surviving on a pittance?" Who knows the real number but why should anyone receive money without contributing. Remember they are taking money that could be used to pay for extra nhs services, extra mental health support etc, | |||
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"Remind the number of unemployed we have. Looks like the uk has a lot of lazy people in it I thought you knew that befors the Brexit vote ? We knew what we were voting for !! They have no where to hide now, no one can have a free ride." Really ? Buisnesses furloughed for months on end & unable to pay wages for many staff now out of jobs , with no income anymore , unemployment rates at there highest for years . 
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"Remind the number of unemployed we have. Looks like the uk has a lot of lazy people in it I thought you knew that befors the Brexit vote ? We knew what we were voting for !! They have no where to hide now, no one can have a free ride. Really ? Buisnesses furloughed for months on end & unable to pay wages for many staff now out of jobs , with no income anymore , unemployment rates at there highest for years .
You really are an Expert arent you "So why arent these people queuing up for these vacancies | |||
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"Remind the number of unemployed we have. Looks like the uk has a lot of lazy people in it I thought you knew that befors the Brexit vote ? We knew what we were voting for !! They have no where to hide now, no one can have a free ride. Really ? Buisnesses furloughed for months on end & unable to pay wages for many staff now out of jobs , with no income anymore , unemployment rates at there highest for years .
You really are an Expert arent you
So why arent these people queuing up for these vacancies "Maybe they need to take the training One cant expect people to just be able to do the jobs . This stuff takes years to know Properly . I'm assuming you have eaten in a Michelen starred Restraunt ? Its a far cry from a greasy spoon | |||
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"Remind the number of unemployed we have. Looks like the uk has a lot of lazy people in it I thought you knew that befors the Brexit vote ? We knew what we were voting for !! They have no where to hide now, no one can have a free ride. Really ? Buisnesses furloughed for months on end & unable to pay wages for many staff now out of jobs , with no income anymore , unemployment rates at there highest for years .
You really are an Expert arent you
So why arent these people queuing up for these vacancies
Maybe they need to take the training
One cant expect people to just be able to do the jobs .
This stuff takes years to know
Properly .
I'm assuming you have eaten in a Michelen starred Restraunt ?
Its a far cry from a greasy spoon "A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. | |||
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"Millionaire owner, David Moore, might get more sympathy if he actually paid a decent wage! A recent job advert gave a wage of £9.50/hr. The Living Wage in London is £10.85/hr. So it’s all about the wages? Would you do shift work in London for £9.50/hour? If so, apply within. No I wouldn’t, they didn’t have trouble finding staff before though ? Eastern European minimum wage levels are well short of ours. £9.50/hr is probably more attractive to them. The solution here, is to align an attractive wage with making the hospitality profession as equally attractive, so UK workers want to work in those jobs. Ah, so we have to increase wages and increase costs to the consumer and in turn make eating out too expensive for some people? Not necessarily. Ever been to a Michelin restaurant? Yep, some are extremely expensive, others less so. Are you suggesting that wages should only be increased at ‘high end’ restaurants or across the board? Not at all. But when a Michelin restaurant is paying less than MacDonalds and Amazon, then its right to question that. Bringing in the cheapest labour does not help UK workers. You have to make the trade attractive to be in. Make your workers feel valued, train them, show them a career path and you will get results. Taking away the "long hours, bad pay" charactisation of hospitality is a good starting point. True, but that will make it more expensive for the consumer, let’s hope people are will to pay more for their meals now they will be served by English staff instead of staff from the EU Why would it inflate prices for consumers? Those rich people you hate so much, the ones who own them will just have to take less profit. 2019 figures say the company has the funds to make that happen." rich buisnessmen take less profit ?? Ha ha that's a good one never gonna happen | |||
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"Remind the number of unemployed we have. Looks like the uk has a lot of lazy people in it" You can't expect people who get free money, to actually work for less money do you? | |||
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"Millionaire owner, David Moore, might get more sympathy if he actually paid a decent wage! A recent job advert gave a wage of £9.50/hr. The Living Wage in London is £10.85/hr. So it’s all about the wages? Would you do shift work in London for £9.50/hour? If so, apply within. No I wouldn’t, they didn’t have trouble finding staff before though ? Eastern European minimum wage levels are well short of ours. £9.50/hr is probably more attractive to them. The solution here, is to align an attractive wage with making the hospitality profession as equally attractive, so UK workers want to work in those jobs. Ah, so we have to increase wages and increase costs to the consumer and in turn make eating out too expensive for some people? Not necessarily. Ever been to a Michelin restaurant? Yep, some are extremely expensive, others less so. Are you suggesting that wages should only be increased at ‘high end’ restaurants or across the board? Not at all. But when a Michelin restaurant is paying less than MacDonalds and Amazon, then its right to question that. Bringing in the cheapest labour does not help UK workers. You have to make the trade attractive to be in. Make your workers feel valued, train them, show them a career path and you will get results. Taking away the "long hours, bad pay" charactisation of hospitality is a good starting point. True, but that will make it more expensive for the consumer, let’s hope people are will to pay more for their meals now they will be served by English staff instead of staff from the EU Why would it inflate prices for consumers? Those rich people you hate so much, the ones who own them will just have to take less profit. 2019 figures say the company has the funds to make that happen.rich buisnessmen take less profit ?? Ha ha that's a good one never gonna happen " Of course not... Just blame Brexit | |||
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"Remind the number of unemployed we have. Looks like the uk has a lot of lazy people in it You can't expect people who get free money, to actually work for less money do you?" Who gets free money exactly? | |||
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"There's been bad press around the hospitality trade for a few years now. Low wages, bullying, long hours, little prospects etc. It seems to have gained a tag of being at the bottom of the UK jobs ladder, whereas around the world, ita a more attractive proposition.
It’s very easy to change this, however many hospitality businesses would rather take the easy option.
What is the ‘easy’ solution?
Not paying decent wages?
Or they could force English people to do ‘English ‘jobs
I remember a panaroma documentary where they tried to get the unemployed English people to do the fruit picking and the intensive factory jobs…. Oh how I laughed! "I bet you wouldn't do them either... | |||
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"Weve worked in hospitality in 2nd jobs for years on relatively low wages.. Its not just wages that will help recruit but also wages in respect of working un sociable hours. Our social life died and getting to see family was awkward to arrange. Not only that, the job security is non existent for some as employers binned Fem off rather than furlough, and Male was self employed in security/door work so received no money as it was a 2nd job and not eligible for covid support. Weve both improved our money income with improved positions on our main jobs. Good luck to those who work in hospitality.. but not for us anymore. " I am also somone that spent ten years of there life working as a chef. Its shit I now get payed more per hour ing a private garden than i did as a kitchen manager. No more weeekends and late nights. If they want people to work for them they need to offer more than poverty wages. Why would you work in a michellin star restaraunt with the stress and bs that brings to be payed less than Macdonalds | |||
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"Remind the number of unemployed we have. Looks like the uk has a lot of lazy people in it I thought you knew that befors the Brexit vote ? We knew what we were voting for !! They have no where to hide now, no one can have a free ride. Really ? Buisnesses furloughed for months on end & unable to pay wages for many staff now out of jobs , with no income anymore , unemployment rates at there highest for years .
You really are an Expert arent you
So why arent these people queuing up for these vacancies
Maybe they need to take the training
One cant expect people to just be able to do the jobs .
This stuff takes years to know
Properly .
I'm assuming you have eaten in a Michelen starred Restraunt ?
Its a far cry from a greasy spoon
A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step."Agreed Lets get the European workers back again . Not sure we need to let them walk a thousand miles though Busses Trains Ships & Aeroplanes are available . | |||
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