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"Some good news https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jun/08/uk-government-loses-legal-battle-transparency-orwellian-unit Quite why they have to be taken to court ,to be transparent ,is anyones guess." Got a better link Lad , Its not too clear . | |||
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"Some good news https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jun/08/uk-government-loses-legal-battle-transparency-orwellian-unit Quite why they have to be taken to court ,to be transparent ,is anyones guess. Got a better link Lad , Its not too clear ." Womt it open? It will be on that open democracy.org site I doubt the likes of the mail will be running with it | |||
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"Things starting to be uncovered all over it seems https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/09/covid-contract-for-firm-run-by-cummings-friends-was-unlawful-judge-rules Illegal actions and bullying of anyone who questions.. who are these people in government?? Dictatorship behaviour. Also Turns out Boris knew the protocol for Northern Ireland was not fit for purpose according to senior Tory Gavin Barwell. Get Brexit done and we’ll worry about the detail later. Self image above all else in this case. " What a difference it makes when they are investigated by someone actually impartial. What I dont get is why is there not already in place a an independent watch ,to prevent this type of thing? Why should someone have to raise money,to get to the truth in court. Strangely enough I remember a member of the Alex knitting circle being highly critical of the good law project, who have raised it. Who would have thought it? | |||
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"Things starting to be uncovered all over it seems https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/09/covid-contract-for-firm-run-by-cummings-friends-was-unlawful-judge-rules Illegal actions and bullying of anyone who questions.. who are these people in government?? Dictatorship behaviour. Also Turns out Boris knew the protocol for Northern Ireland was not fit for purpose according to senior Tory Gavin Barwell. Get Brexit done and we’ll worry about the detail later. Self image above all else in this case. What a difference it makes when they are investigated by someone actually impartial. What I dont get is why is there not already in place a an independent watch ,to prevent this type of thing? Why should someone have to raise money,to get to the truth in court. Strangely enough I remember a member of the Alex knitting circle being highly critical of the good law project, who have raised it. Who would have thought it?" They tried to out fund them to stop the case . | |||
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"Things starting to be uncovered all over it seems https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/09/covid-contract-for-firm-run-by-cummings-friends-was-unlawful-judge-rules Illegal actions and bullying of anyone who questions.. who are these people in government?? Dictatorship behaviour. Also Turns out Boris knew the protocol for Northern Ireland was not fit for purpose according to senior Tory Gavin Barwell. Get Brexit done and we’ll worry about the detail later. Self image above all else in this case. What a difference it makes when they are investigated by someone actually impartial. What I dont get is why is there not already in place a an independent watch ,to prevent this type of thing? Why should someone have to raise money,to get to the truth in court. Strangely enough I remember a member of the Alex knitting circle being highly critical of the good law project, who have raised it. Who would have thought it? They tried to out fund them to stop the case . " This is a gmnt who describe lawyers representing immigrants as do.gooders. And a big chunk of the population Cheer them.on all the way | |||
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" They tried to out fund them to stop the case . " The government has defended the cases determinedly, initially trying but failing to have them thrown out, then refusing to limit its costs. That has put the GLP, a not-for-profit organisation that raises money through crowdfunding to support its stated mission to “use the law to protect the interests of the public”, at severe financial risk if it loses and has to pay the government’s costs. In February, the Government Legal Department notified the GLP that its costs for defending the challenge to the Public First award could reach £600,000, more than the value of the contract. the GLP have yet to apply to the court for legal costs to be claimed from the government. the government's refusal to limit costs could have indeed backfired in an extremely costly manner. | |||
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" They tried to out fund them to stop the case . The government has defended the cases determinedly, initially trying but failing to have them thrown out, then refusing to limit its costs. That has put the GLP, a not-for-profit organisation that raises money through crowdfunding to support its stated mission to “use the law to protect the interests of the public”, at severe financial risk if it loses and has to pay the government’s costs. In February, the Government Legal Department notified the GLP that its costs for defending the challenge to the Public First award could reach £600,000, more than the value of the contract. the GLP have yet to apply to the court for legal costs to be claimed from the government. the government's refusal to limit costs could have indeed backfired in an extremely costly manner." Just as well they won’t be paying .. it will fall to the taxpayer as usual. Let’s suggest a Tory backer can have a peerage if they cough the full amount!! Oh silly that would never happen! | |||
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"Where are the Blue Voters to defend them ? This thread is definitively one sided !! " They are trying to figure out how they can blame labour. | |||
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"Where are the Blue Voters to defend them ? This thread is definitively one sided !! " Unfortunately i voted blue last time round against my better judgement. The thought of Corbyn as PM was too frightening to even think about for too long. The reason no blues voters have popped their heads up is very simple, you can't defend the indefensible. In fact what the tories have done here is very similar to what Robert Maxwell used to do on a regular basis. | |||
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"Where are the Blue Voters to defend them ? This thread is definitively one sided !! Unfortunately i voted blue last time round against my better judgement. The thought of Corbyn as PM was too frightening to even think about for too long. The reason no blues voters have popped their heads up is very simple, you can't defend the indefensible. In fact what the tories have done here is very similar to what Robert Maxwell used to do on a regular basis." Donald trump for years didn’t pay bills and fought off smaller creditors by threatening legal action which most could afford to risk!! Boris and co are cut from similar cloth . Disgusting and an embarrassment to our historic great nation. | |||
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"Hard to defend the indefensible In this case the obscene way with which this bunch abuse the office of our country’s government is obscene. Any government that fights off scrutiny is not a democracy in action. We should all be concerned whatever your political leanings. " It's even easier to just ignore it Look at how many replies the islomaapobia report got ,compared to the mulititude of antl semitic threads about the labour party. | |||
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"Epic levels of whatabouttery in the virus forum" That must be your favourite word | |||
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"Epic levels of whatabouttery in the virus forum That must be your favourite word " Quite | |||
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"I feel we area one party state at the min which is a worry. " the anouncement of the latest tory gerrymander compounds this | |||
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"Where are the Blue Voters to defend them ? This thread is definitively one sided !! Unfortunately i voted blue last time round against my better judgement. The thought of Corbyn as PM was too frightening to even think about for too long. The reason no blues voters have popped their heads up is very simple, you can't defend the indefensible. In fact what the tories have done here is very similar to what Robert Maxwell used to do on a regular basis. Donald trump for years didn’t pay bills and fought off smaller creditors by threatening legal action which most could afford to risk!! Boris and co are cut from similar cloth . Disgusting and an embarrassment to our historic great nation. " For Trump, he has actually been doing it for all his adult life. Murdock is another cut from the same cloth as well. | |||
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"Where are the Blue Voters to defend them ? This thread is definitively one sided !! They are trying to figure out how they can blame labour."  | |||
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"Hard to defend the indefensible In this case the obscene way with which this bunch abuse the office of our country’s government is obscene. Any government that fights off scrutiny is not a democracy in action. We should all be concerned whatever your political leanings. It's even easier to just ignore it Look at how many replies the islomaapobia report got ,compared to the mulititude of antl semitic threads about the labour party. " I noticed that too | |||
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"Hard to defend the indefensible In this case the obscene way with which this bunch abuse the office of our country’s government is obscene. Any government that fights off scrutiny is not a democracy in action. We should all be concerned whatever your political leanings. It's even easier to just ignore it Look at how many replies the islomaapobia report got ,compared to the mulititude of antl semitic threads about the labour party. I noticed that too " Without derailing the thread,the picture was reflected in the media. 2 very similar stories.. one generated weeks if not months of headlines and gave labour a tag they cant shake, the other barely made it past a day. And people say why dont we have an effective opposition? | |||
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"Hard to defend the indefensible In this case the obscene way with which this bunch abuse the office of our country’s government is obscene. Any government that fights off scrutiny is not a democracy in action. We should all be concerned whatever your political leanings. It's even easier to just ignore it Look at how many replies the islomaapobia report got ,compared to the mulititude of antl semitic threads about the labour party. I noticed that too Without derailing the thread,the picture was reflected in the media. 2 very similar stories.. one generated weeks if not months of headlines and gave labour a tag they cant shake, the other barely made it past a day. And people say why dont we have an effective opposition?" Yup But they will still try & tell us differently . What i like most is that while they read this I know they will be calling me angry names . | |||
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"Hard to defend the indefensible In this case the obscene way with which this bunch abuse the office of our country’s government is obscene. Any government that fights off scrutiny is not a democracy in action. We should all be concerned whatever your political leanings. " Well I vote Tory mainly but always do consider others. I also agree with the bad feeling over this so would not seek to defend it. Just because a person votes for a party does not mean they agree with everything that they do | |||
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"Ok we can let you say it means you dont agree with everything they do . Problem is it gives them the Power to do whatever tehy want & the Tory party has never been About doing things for the people . Its only ever been about what they can get for Themselves there families & there friends ." thanks for letting me. Truly honoured | |||
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"Ok we can let you say it means you dont agree with everything they do . Problem is it gives them the Power to do whatever tehy want & the Tory party has never been About doing things for the people . Its only ever been about what they can get for Themselves there families & there friends . thanks for letting me. Truly honoured" Letting you what ? | |||
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