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"After the Diana revelations, where do they go from here? An inquiry? " An enquiry into the enquiry? No. Everyone should join the Defund the BBC campaign and cancel their licence fee  | |||
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"After the Diana revelations, where do they go from here? An inquiry? An enquiry into the enquiry? No. Everyone should join the Defund the BBC campaign and cancel their licence fee " | |||
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"Can anything else be done to bring people to account? Not just Bashir, but others in senior positions at the time? " Earl Spencer has asked Scotland Yard to investigate it as a criminal case Cant wait to see what comes out about the cover up and how the BBC tried to refuse the freedom of information requests I'm sure the British public is happy to see their licence fee being spent on enormous fines | |||
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"This must be like Christmas day for the daily mail A load of royal arse kissing and a chance to attack the bbc. It is a bit odd how tories despise the bbc so much. Funny you never hear that complaining about sky news ismt it." So you are happy that the British public broadcaster faked evidence to obtain an interview that caused huge upset to her family, what else have they made up and faked ? | |||
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"This must be like Christmas day for the daily mail A load of royal arse kissing and a chance to attack the bbc. It is a bit odd how tories despise the bbc so much. Funny you never hear that complaining about sky news ismt it. So you are happy that the British public broadcaster faked evidence to obtain an interview that caused huge upset to her family, what else have they made up and faked ? " Ive no idea and tbh I couldnt give a toss about the royal family. As for faking they did use a fake picture of alex when he laid a wreath. So you could be onto something there... | |||
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"This must be like Christmas day for the daily mail A load of royal arse kissing and a chance to attack the bbc. It is a bit odd how tories despise the bbc so much. Funny you never hear that complaining about sky news ismt it. So you are happy that the British public broadcaster faked evidence to obtain an interview that caused huge upset to her family, what else have they made up and faked ? " They even had false bank statements and cheques made up to make Diana believe that members of her own household were being paid to spy on her Seriously, what morally normal - or even morally average people would ever do that | |||
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"This must be like Christmas day for the daily mail A load of royal arse kissing and a chance to attack the bbc. It is a bit odd how tories despise the bbc so much. Funny you never hear that complaining about sky news ismt it. So you are happy that the British public broadcaster faked evidence to obtain an interview that caused huge upset to her family, what else have they made up and faked ? Ive no idea and tbh I couldnt give a toss about the royal family. As for faking they did use a fake picture of alex when he laid a wreath. So you could be onto something there..." Oh look more avoiding a straight answer and what has this unknown Alex character got to do with the " world respected" broadcaster lying and making up stories. Que more deflection | |||
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"This must be like Christmas day for the daily mail A load of royal arse kissing and a chance to attack the bbc. It is a bit odd how tories despise the bbc so much. Funny you never hear that complaining about sky news ismt it. So you are happy that the British public broadcaster faked evidence to obtain an interview that caused huge upset to her family, what else have they made up and faked ? Ive no idea and tbh I couldnt give a toss about the royal family. As for faking they did use a fake picture of alex when he laid a wreath. So you could be onto something there... Oh look more avoiding a straight answer and what has this unknown Alex character got to do with the " world respected" broadcaster lying and making up stories. Que more deflection" You asked what else have they faked I provided an answer Some people should really look up the word deflectiion | |||
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"This must be like Christmas day for the daily mail A load of royal arse kissing and a chance to attack the bbc. It is a bit odd how tories despise the bbc so much. Funny you never hear that complaining about sky news ismt it. So you are happy that the British public broadcaster faked evidence to obtain an interview that caused huge upset to her family, what else have they made up and faked ? Ive no idea and tbh I couldnt give a toss about the royal family. As for faking they did use a fake picture of alex when he laid a wreath. So you could be onto something there... Oh look more avoiding a straight answer and what has this unknown Alex character got to do with the " world respected" broadcaster lying and making up stories. Que more deflection You asked what else have they faked I provided an answer Some people should really look up the word deflectiion " Once more are you happy with the BBC for faking the evidence ? | |||
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"Got to say Prince Williams statement was a fizzer! Good on him. " It was. I'd feel exactly the same if people had done that to my mother | |||
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"This must be like Christmas day for the daily mail A load of royal arse kissing and a chance to attack the bbc. It is a bit odd how tories despise the bbc so much. Funny you never hear that complaining about sky news ismt it. So you are happy that the British public broadcaster faked evidence to obtain an interview that caused huge upset to her family, what else have they made up and faked ? " It is an appalling state of affairs - I agree. If anything, right now in the existence of U.K. PLC, more than anything we absolutely need an impartial and independent “news” organisation. My concern would be that politics might result in the politicisation of the BBC.” And no- one would benefit from that. | |||
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"Got to say Prince Williams statement was a fizzer! Good on him. It was. I'd feel exactly the same if people had done that to my mother " And that’s it’s forget about the privilege. For me it’s the basic humanity. What those two young lads went through and Clarence House just lacked humanity. It’s clearly damaged Harry and William. | |||
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"This must be like Christmas day for the daily mail A load of royal arse kissing and a chance to attack the bbc. It is a bit odd how tories despise the bbc so much. Funny you never hear that complaining about sky news ismt it. So you are happy that the British public broadcaster faked evidence to obtain an interview that caused huge upset to her family, what else have they made up and faked ? It is an appalling state of affairs - I agree. If anything, right now in the existence of U.K. PLC, more than anything we absolutely need an impartial and independent “news” organisation. My concern would be that politics might result in the politicisation of the BBC.” And no- one would benefit from that." Ofcom are the regulators. Except it's well known to be filled with ex BBC employees | |||
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"This earlier too: "Tim Suter, formerly a top executive at the BBC, has stepped down from the board of British broadcast regulator Ofcom following a damning report into the BBC's conduct in securing a famous television interview with Diana, Princess of Wales in 1995."" Hmmm I suspect there's more to his resignation than meets the eye | |||
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"Can anything else be done to bring people to account? Not just Bashir, but others in senior positions at the time? Earl Spencer has asked Scotland Yard to investigate it as a criminal case Cant wait to see what comes out about the cover up and how the BBC tried to refuse the freedom of information requests I'm sure the British public is happy to see their licence fee being spent on enormous fines" The beeb has been dumbing down for a long time and becoming more investigative/ tabloid in its methodology. We ended up paying out lots of our licence fee money more recently in the Cliff Richard debacle. I no longer consider The BBC to set the benchmark in impartiality but instead to be just another Americanised fake news jobs for the boys quango. | |||
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"This must be like Christmas day for the daily mail A load of royal arse kissing and a chance to attack the bbc. It is a bit odd how tories despise the bbc so much. Funny you never hear that complaining about sky news ismt it." Nobody is forced to pay for sky news. Mind you....I've not paid a bbc license fee since wmd fake news releases. Further persuasion not to pay was the saville enabling/cover up revelations. One of the Best broadcasters in the world my arse  | |||
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"This must be like Christmas day for the daily mail A load of royal arse kissing and a chance to attack the bbc. It is a bit odd how tories despise the bbc so much. Funny you never hear that complaining about sky news ismt it. Nobody is forced to pay for sky news. Mind you....I've not paid a bbc license fee since wmd fake news releases. Further persuasion not to pay was the saville enabling/cover up revelations. One of the Best broadcasters in the world my arse "So what type of news are we left with when the bbc goes? Sky and gb news..great. | |||
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"This must be like Christmas day for the daily mail A load of royal arse kissing and a chance to attack the bbc. It is a bit odd how tories despise the bbc so much. Funny you never hear that complaining about sky news ismt it. So you are happy that the British public broadcaster faked evidence to obtain an interview that caused huge upset to her family, what else have they made up and faked ? It is an appalling state of affairs - I agree. If anything, right now in the existence of U.K. PLC, more than anything we absolutely need an impartial and independent “news” organisation. My concern would be that politics might result in the politicisation of the BBC.” And no- one would benefit from that. Ofcom are the regulators. Except it's well known to be filled with ex BBC employees " And its ran by a tory | |||
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"Got to say Prince Williams statement was a fizzer! Good on him. It was. I'd feel exactly the same if people had done that to my mother And that’s it’s forget about the privilege. For me it’s the basic humanity. What those two young lads went through and Clarence House just lacked humanity. It’s clearly damaged Harry and William. " Personally I'd say growing up in a hugely dysfunctional family,having parents in a sham marriage,characterised by infidelity ruined them more, but what do I know, | |||
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"As long as people watch those channels they stay in business. No viewers, no revenue. " Currently held to ransom by threat of convictions | |||
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"This must be like Christmas day for the daily mail A load of royal arse kissing and a chance to attack the bbc. It is a bit odd how tories despise the bbc so much. Funny you never hear that complaining about sky news ismt it. Nobody is forced to pay for sky news. Mind you....I've not paid a bbc license fee since wmd fake news releases. Further persuasion not to pay was the saville enabling/cover up revelations. One of the Best broadcasters in the world my arse "Was this the same Jimmy saville who a certain prime minister was insistent.on being knighted? | |||
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"As long as people watch those channels they stay in business. No viewers, no revenue. Currently held to ransom by threat of convictions " The notion you need a TV “licence” is ridiculous. | |||
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"As long as people watch those channels they stay in business. No viewers, no revenue. Currently held to ransom by threat of convictions The notion you need a TV “licence” is ridiculous. " You only need one if you watch live television as its being broadcast | |||
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"As long as people watch those channels they stay in business. No viewers, no revenue. Currently held to ransom by threat of convictions The notion you need a TV “licence” is ridiculous. You only need one if you watch live television as its being broadcast " You need a license to stream, download or watch BBC iplayer as well. Part of the changes agreed at the last BBC review | |||
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"This must be like Christmas day for the daily mail A load of royal arse kissing and a chance to attack the bbc. It is a bit odd how tories despise the bbc so much. Funny you never hear that complaining about sky news ismt it. So you are happy that the British public broadcaster faked evidence to obtain an interview that caused huge upset to her family, what else have they made up and faked ? It is an appalling state of affairs - I agree. If anything, right now in the existence of U.K. PLC, more than anything we absolutely need an impartial and independent “news” organisation. My concern would be that politics might result in the politicisation of the BBC.” And no- one would benefit from that. Ofcom are the regulators. Except it's well known to be filled with ex BBC employees And its ran by a tory" How is Maggie Carver a Tory? | |||
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"As long as people watch those channels they stay in business. No viewers, no revenue. Currently held to ransom by threat of convictions The notion you need a TV “licence” is ridiculous. You only need one if you watch live television as its being broadcast " It’s the whole “licence” thing that tickles me. A ridiculous officious bunch of nonsense. | |||
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"As long as people watch those channels they stay in business. No viewers, no revenue. Currently held to ransom by threat of convictions The notion you need a TV “licence” is ridiculous. You only need one if you watch live television as its being broadcast You need a license to stream, download or watch BBC iplayer as well. Part of the changes agreed at the last BBC review " You do. That I can understand but why are the public forced to buy a license if they just want to watch the other channels | |||
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"This must be like Christmas day for the daily mail A load of royal arse kissing and a chance to attack the bbc. It is a bit odd how tories despise the bbc so much. Funny you never hear that complaining about sky news ismt it. So you are happy that the British public broadcaster faked evidence to obtain an interview that caused huge upset to her family, what else have they made up and faked ? It is an appalling state of affairs - I agree. If anything, right now in the existence of U.K. PLC, more than anything we absolutely need an impartial and independent “news” organisation. My concern would be that politics might result in the politicisation of the BBC.” And no- one would benefit from that. Ofcom are the regulators. Except it's well known to be filled with ex BBC employees And its ran by a tory How is Maggie Carver a Tory?" Apologises Thought dacre was there | |||
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"As long as people watch those channels they stay in business. No viewers, no revenue. Currently held to ransom by threat of convictions The notion you need a TV “licence” is ridiculous. You only need one if you watch live television as its being broadcast It’s the whole “licence” thing that tickles me. A ridiculous officious bunch of nonsense. " It is. And the BBC spends 100 million pounds a year on just collecting the licence fee | |||
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"They are all to do with the BBC and the way that they do things. "Right.. | |||
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"Into a proper funding model............." Pay Per View. | |||
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"Was Jimmy saville just associated with the bbc?" No idea, you are the only person to mention him in this thread to be honest. | |||
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"Was Jimmy saville just associated with the bbc? No idea, you are the only person to mention him in this thread to be honest." No I'm not He is mentioned above | |||
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"The BBC or rather the men involved at the time were appalling. Diana though, was not "young", yesterday the reporters were saying she was young. She was a flawed, mentally unstable unwell adult. " Mentally unstable? | |||
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"Was Jimmy saville just associated with the bbc? No idea, you are the only person to mention him in this thread to be honest. No I'm not He is mentioned above " Well i have been through every post in this thread and can't see where anyone else has mentioned him, perhaps you can show me where? | |||
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"Was Jimmy saville just associated with the bbc? No idea, you are the only person to mention him in this thread to be honest. No I'm not He is mentioned above Well i have been through every post in this thread and can't see where anyone else has mentioned him, perhaps you can show me where?" someone mentioned the beeb having to pay out for the saville cover up mate that was all. | |||
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"Was Jimmy saville just associated with the bbc? No idea, you are the only person to mention him in this thread to be honest. No I'm not He is mentioned above Well i have been through every post in this thread and can't see where anyone else has mentioned him, perhaps you can show me where? someone mentioned the beeb having to pay out for the saville cover up mate that was all." Oh right I must av missed that bit oops, sorry Lionel, wasn't being funny either in case you think I was mate. | |||
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"Was Jimmy saville just associated with the bbc? No idea, you are the only person to mention him in this thread to be honest. No I'm not He is mentioned above Well i have been through every post in this thread and can't see where anyone else has mentioned him, perhaps you can show me where? someone mentioned the beeb having to pay out for the saville cover up mate that was all. Oh right I must av missed that bit oops, sorry Lionel, wasn't being funny either in case you think I was mate."
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I just find it a bit odd that every time the bbc gets mentioned, his name gets brought up ,obvs as a stick to beat them.
Funny enough the fact that he was consistently put forward for a knighthood by a certain former pm is conveniently glossed over. | |||
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"Did you find out if he only had dealings with the beeb? Can't remember him on anything else but could well be wrong its a long time ago." sems he was employed by the bbc from 1964 to at least until 1994 .so yes a bbc employee. | |||
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"Was Jimmy saville just associated with the bbc? No idea, you are the only person to mention him in this thread to be honest. No I'm not He is mentioned above Well i have been through every post in this thread and can't see where anyone else has mentioned him, perhaps you can show me where? someone mentioned the beeb having to pay out for the saville cover up mate that was all. Oh right I must av missed that bit oops, sorry Lionel, wasn't being funny either in case you think I was mate.
No worries
I just find it a bit odd that every time the bbc gets mentioned, his name gets brought up ,obvs as a stick to beat them.
Funny enough the fact that he was consistently put forward for a knighthood by a certain former pm is conveniently glossed over."Why was this former mp a clairvoyant ? he actually did raise over £40 million for charities obviously to hide the fact he was a peodo. | |||
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"Was Jimmy saville just associated with the bbc? No idea, you are the only person to mention him in this thread to be honest. No I'm not He is mentioned above Well i have been through every post in this thread and can't see where anyone else has mentioned him, perhaps you can show me where? someone mentioned the beeb having to pay out for the saville cover up mate that was all. Oh right I must av missed that bit oops, sorry Lionel, wasn't being funny either in case you think I was mate.
No worries
I just find it a bit odd that every time the bbc gets mentioned, his name gets brought up ,obvs as a stick to beat them.
Funny enough the fact that he was consistently put forward for a knighthood by a certain former pm is conveniently glossed over.Why was this former mp a clairvoyant ? he actually did raise over £40 million for charities obviously to hide the fact he was a peodo. "So you can slate the bbc for employing him...but excuse the former pm for wanting him knighted because he raised money for charity? | |||
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"And once again..the link between the Bashir interview and Jimmy saville...." Probably as relevant ( or as irrelevant) as a former PM and the Bashir interview……. | |||
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"Was Jimmy saville just associated with the bbc? No idea, you are the only person to mention him in this thread to be honest. No I'm not He is mentioned above Well i have been through every post in this thread and can't see where anyone else has mentioned him, perhaps you can show me where? someone mentioned the beeb having to pay out for the saville cover up mate that was all. Oh right I must av missed that bit oops, sorry Lionel, wasn't being funny either in case you think I was mate.
No worries
I just find it a bit odd that every time the bbc gets mentioned, his name gets brought up ,obvs as a stick to beat them.
Funny enough the fact that he was consistently put forward for a knighthood by a certain former pm is conveniently glossed over.Why was this former mp a clairvoyant ? he actually did raise over £40 million for charities obviously to hide the fact he was a peodo.
So you can slate the bbc for employing him...but excuse the former pm for wanting him knighted because he raised money for charity?"no thats not what i said stop twisting things yet again and read what is said i really am getting fed up with pulling you on this. the former mp whomever that was obviously didnt know what he was up to neither did the bbc when they employed him but unlike the mp the bbc found out and covered it up.Do you understand the difference now? as i cant put it any clearer. | |||
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"And once again..the link between the Bashir interview and Jimmy saville.... Probably as relevant ( or as irrelevant) as a former PM and the Bashir interview……." So lets get this straight..a tpoc about the matin Bashir is discussed.. Jimmy saville is brought into it...that relevant but the fact that he was put forward for a knighthood is irrelevant..have I got that right? | |||
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"Was Jimmy saville just associated with the bbc? No idea, you are the only person to mention him in this thread to be honest. No I'm not He is mentioned above Well i have been through every post in this thread and can't see where anyone else has mentioned him, perhaps you can show me where? someone mentioned the beeb having to pay out for the saville cover up mate that was all. Oh right I must av missed that bit oops, sorry Lionel, wasn't being funny either in case you think I was mate.
No worries
I just find it a bit odd that every time the bbc gets mentioned, his name gets brought up ,obvs as a stick to beat them.
Funny enough the fact that he was consistently put forward for a knighthood by a certain former pm is conveniently glossed over.Why was this former mp a clairvoyant ? he actually did raise over £40 million for charities obviously to hide the fact he was a peodo.
So you can slate the bbc for employing him...but excuse the former pm for wanting him knighted because he raised money for charity?no thats not what i said stop twisting things yet again and read what is said i really am getting fed up with pulling you on this.
the former mp whomever that was obviously didnt know what he was up to neither did the bbc when they employed him but unlike the mp the bbc found out and covered it up.Do you understand the difference now? as i cant put it any clearer."The bbc found saville was a nonce and did nothing? | |||
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"And once again..the link between the Bashir interview and Jimmy saville.... Probably as relevant ( or as irrelevant) as a former PM and the Bashir interview……. So lets get this straight..a tpoc about the matin Bashir is discussed.. Jimmy saville is brought into it...that relevant but the fact that he was put forward for a knighthood is irrelevant..have I got that right?" Nope, you’ve not got it. Please try and read what’s written. | |||
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"Was Jimmy saville just associated with the bbc? No idea, you are the only person to mention him in this thread to be honest. No I'm not He is mentioned above Well i have been through every post in this thread and can't see where anyone else has mentioned him, perhaps you can show me where? someone mentioned the beeb having to pay out for the saville cover up mate that was all. Oh right I must av missed that bit oops, sorry Lionel, wasn't being funny either in case you think I was mate.
No worries
I just find it a bit odd that every time the bbc gets mentioned, his name gets brought up ,obvs as a stick to beat them.
Funny enough the fact that he was consistently put forward for a knighthood by a certain former pm is conveniently glossed over.Why was this former mp a clairvoyant ? he actually did raise over £40 million for charities obviously to hide the fact he was a peodo.
So you can slate the bbc for employing him...but excuse the former pm for wanting him knighted because he raised money for charity?no thats not what i said stop twisting things yet again and read what is said i really am getting fed up with pulling you on this.
the former mp whomever that was obviously didnt know what he was up to neither did the bbc when they employed him but unlike the mp the bbc found out and covered it up.Do you understand the difference now? as i cant put it any clearer.
The bbc found saville was a nonce and did nothing?"Thats why they had to pay the compo. | |||
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"Was Jimmy saville just associated with the bbc? No idea, you are the only person to mention him in this thread to be honest. No I'm not He is mentioned above Well i have been through every post in this thread and can't see where anyone else has mentioned him, perhaps you can show me where? someone mentioned the beeb having to pay out for the saville cover up mate that was all. Oh right I must av missed that bit oops, sorry Lionel, wasn't being funny either in case you think I was mate.
No worries
I just find it a bit odd that every time the bbc gets mentioned, his name gets brought up ,obvs as a stick to beat them.
Funny enough the fact that he was consistently put forward for a knighthood by a certain former pm is conveniently glossed over.Why was this former mp a clairvoyant ? he actually did raise over £40 million for charities obviously to hide the fact he was a peodo.
So you can slate the bbc for employing him...but excuse the former pm for wanting him knighted because he raised money for charity?no thats not what i said stop twisting things yet again and read what is said i really am getting fed up with pulling you on this.
the former mp whomever that was obviously didnt know what he was up to neither did the bbc when they employed him but unlike the mp the bbc found out and covered it up.Do you understand the difference now? as i cant put it any clearer.
The bbc found saville was a nonce and did nothing?Thats why they had to pay the compo. "Can you provide a link where the bbc knew exactly what he had done and covered it up? | |||
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"Was Jimmy saville just associated with the bbc? No idea, you are the only person to mention him in this thread to be honest. No I'm not He is mentioned above Well i have been through every post in this thread and can't see where anyone else has mentioned him, perhaps you can show me where? someone mentioned the beeb having to pay out for the saville cover up mate that was all. Oh right I must av missed that bit oops, sorry Lionel, wasn't being funny either in case you think I was mate.
No worries
I just find it a bit odd that every time the bbc gets mentioned, his name gets brought up ,obvs as a stick to beat them.
Funny enough the fact that he was consistently put forward for a knighthood by a certain former pm is conveniently glossed over.Why was this former mp a clairvoyant ? he actually did raise over £40 million for charities obviously to hide the fact he was a peodo.
So you can slate the bbc for employing him...but excuse the former pm for wanting him knighted because he raised money for charity?no thats not what i said stop twisting things yet again and read what is said i really am getting fed up with pulling you on this.
the former mp whomever that was obviously didnt know what he was up to neither did the bbc when they employed him but unlike the mp the bbc found out and covered it up.Do you understand the difference now? as i cant put it any clearer.
The bbc found saville was a nonce and did nothing?Thats why they had to pay the compo. "You also realise the NHS paid compensation? | |||
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"Was Jimmy saville just associated with the bbc? No idea, you are the only person to mention him in this thread to be honest. No I'm not He is mentioned above Well i have been through every post in this thread and can't see where anyone else has mentioned him, perhaps you can show me where? someone mentioned the beeb having to pay out for the saville cover up mate that was all. Oh right I must av missed that bit oops, sorry Lionel, wasn't being funny either in case you think I was mate.
No worries
I just find it a bit odd that every time the bbc gets mentioned, his name gets brought up ,obvs as a stick to beat them.
Funny enough the fact that he was consistently put forward for a knighthood by a certain former pm is conveniently glossed over.Why was this former mp a clairvoyant ? he actually did raise over £40 million for charities obviously to hide the fact he was a peodo.
So you can slate the bbc for employing him...but excuse the former pm for wanting him knighted because he raised money for charity?no thats not what i said stop twisting things yet again and read what is said i really am getting fed up with pulling you on this.
the former mp whomever that was obviously didnt know what he was up to neither did the bbc when they employed him but unlike the mp the bbc found out and covered it up.Do you understand the difference now? as i cant put it any clearer.
The bbc found saville was a nonce and did nothing?Thats why they had to pay the compo.
You also realise the NHS paid compensation?"Yep https://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/tv-radio/jimmy-savile-report-stuart-hall-bbc-employees-who-knew-about-sexual-predators-a6896246.html | |||
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"Was Jimmy saville just associated with the bbc? No idea, you are the only person to mention him in this thread to be honest. No I'm not He is mentioned above Well i have been through every post in this thread and can't see where anyone else has mentioned him, perhaps you can show me where? someone mentioned the beeb having to pay out for the saville cover up mate that was all. Oh right I must av missed that bit oops, sorry Lionel, wasn't being funny either in case you think I was mate.
No worries
I just find it a bit odd that every time the bbc gets mentioned, his name gets brought up ,obvs as a stick to beat them.
Funny enough the fact that he was consistently put forward for a knighthood by a certain former pm is conveniently glossed over.Why was this former mp a clairvoyant ? he actually did raise over £40 million for charities obviously to hide the fact he was a peodo.
So you can slate the bbc for employing him...but excuse the former pm for wanting him knighted because he raised money for charity?no thats not what i said stop twisting things yet again and read what is said i really am getting fed up with pulling you on this.
the former mp whomever that was obviously didnt know what he was up to neither did the bbc when they employed him but unlike the mp the bbc found out and covered it up.Do you understand the difference now? as i cant put it any clearer.
The bbc found saville was a nonce and did nothing?Thats why they had to pay the compo.
You also realise the NHS paid compensation?Yep https://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/tv-radio/jimmy-savile-report-stuart-hall-bbc-employees-who-knew-about-sexual-predators-a6896246.html"Presumably you read the bit which said 'I have found no evidence the bbc as an instituon knew what was going on' When it came out I recall many people saying they knew what was going on but where scared because he had powerful friends.. I wonder who those friends were? | |||
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"Was Jimmy saville just associated with the bbc? No idea, you are the only person to mention him in this thread to be honest. No I'm not He is mentioned above Well i have been through every post in this thread and can't see where anyone else has mentioned him, perhaps you can show me where? someone mentioned the beeb having to pay out for the saville cover up mate that was all. Oh right I must av missed that bit oops, sorry Lionel, wasn't being funny either in case you think I was mate.
No worries
I just find it a bit odd that every time the bbc gets mentioned, his name gets brought up ,obvs as a stick to beat them.
Funny enough the fact that he was consistently put forward for a knighthood by a certain former pm is conveniently glossed over.Why was this former mp a clairvoyant ? he actually did raise over £40 million for charities obviously to hide the fact he was a peodo.
So you can slate the bbc for employing him...but excuse the former pm for wanting him knighted because he raised money for charity?no thats not what i said stop twisting things yet again and read what is said i really am getting fed up with pulling you on this.
the former mp whomever that was obviously didnt know what he was up to neither did the bbc when they employed him but unlike the mp the bbc found out and covered it up.Do you understand the difference now? as i cant put it any clearer.
The bbc found saville was a nonce and did nothing?Thats why they had to pay the compo.
You also realise the NHS paid compensation?Yep https://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/tv-radio/jimmy-savile-report-stuart-hall-bbc-employees-who-knew-about-sexual-predators-a6896246.html
Presumably you read the bit which said 'I have found no evidence the bbc as an instituon knew what was going on'
When it came out I recall many people saying they knew what was going on but where scared because he had powerful friends.. I wonder who those friends were?"You are finally getting it the bbc found no evidence of wrong doing exactly the same as they found no wrong doing on bashir a few years ago, begining to see the pattern now | |||
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No worries
I just find it a bit odd that every time the bbc gets mentioned, his name gets brought up ,obvs as a stick to beat them.
Funny enough the fact that he was consistently put forward for a knighthood by a certain former pm is conveniently glossed over.Why was this former mp a clairvoyant ? he actually did raise over £40 million for charities obviously to hide the fact he was a peodo.
So you can slate the bbc for employing him...but excuse the former pm for wanting him knighted because he raised money for charity?no thats not what i said stop twisting things yet again and read what is said i really am getting fed up with pulling you on this.
the former mp whomever that was obviously didnt know what he was up to neither did the bbc when they employed him but unlike the mp the bbc found out and covered it up.Do you understand the difference now? as i cant put it any clearer.
The bbc found saville was a nonce and did nothing?Thats why they had to pay the compo.
You also realise the NHS paid compensation?Yep https://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/tv-radio/jimmy-savile-report-stuart-hall-bbc-employees-who-knew-about-sexual-predators-a6896246.html
Presumably you read the bit which said 'I have found no evidence the bbc as an instituon knew what was going on'
When it came out I recall many people saying they knew what was going on but where scared because he had powerful friends.. I wonder who those friends were?You are finally getting it the bbc found no evidence of wrong doing exactly the same as they found no wrong doing on bashir a few years ago, begining to see the pattern now "Murky old BBC. | |||
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"https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23355531.amp" All that tells me is the establishment didnt want to knight a dj "who has sex with women he meets" shut the front door who would have thought celebrities would do that. But as usual this seems to have gone way off track with whataboutery once again, the bbc have been found out covering up the bashir scandal and my guess they did the same with him not the standards you would expect from the bbc on taxpayers money. | |||
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"https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23355531.ampAll that tells me is the establishment didnt want to knight a dj "who has sex with women he meets" shut the front door who would have thought celebrities would do that. But as usual this seems to have gone way off track with whataboutery once again, the bbc have been found out covering up the bashir scandal and my guess they did the same with him not the standards you would expect from the bbc on taxpayers money. Really.. she was repeatedly warned about his behaviour yet consistently pushed for a knighthood..why is this ? The topic veered off topic when it began to talk to reference jimmy saville. Yet you only flag it up in reference to his knighthood. Strange." So what are you trying to infer now? just come out and say.Yes it did because you chose to take it that way as usual. | |||
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"https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23355531.ampAll that tells me is the establishment didnt want to knight a dj "who has sex with women he meets" shut the front door who would have thought celebrities would do that. But as usual this seems to have gone way off track with whataboutery once again, the bbc have been found out covering up the bashir scandal and my guess they did the same with him not the standards you would expect from the bbc on taxpayers money. Really.. she was repeatedly warned about his behaviour yet consistently pushed for a knighthood..why is this ? The topic veered off topic when it began to talk to reference jimmy saville. Yet you only flag it up in reference to his knighthood. Strange.So what are you trying to infer now? just come out and say.Yes it did because you chose to take it that way as usual. Not inferring anyone. Good old Maggie was warned about his behaviour and still pushed for a knighthood. Nothing unusual about that. A pm wanting to honour a suspected paedophile Here’s a link to the BBC ( ironic, I know!) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23355531 It includes this paragraph “ "There is no indication in the papers that anything was known then about the allegations that have subsequently come to light about Jimmy Savile. The honours process was followed in accordance with the system at the time." So somehow you insist that the BBC hierarchy didn’t know but Maggie Thatcher did know!" She was warned on several occasions And try reading what I actually said Always helps | |||
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"https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23355531.ampAll that tells me is the establishment didnt want to knight a dj "who has sex with women he meets" shut the front door who would have thought celebrities would do that. But as usual this seems to have gone way off track with whataboutery once again, the bbc have been found out covering up the bashir scandal and my guess they did the same with him not the standards you would expect from the bbc on taxpayers money. Really.. she was repeatedly warned about his behaviour yet consistently pushed for a knighthood..why is this ? The topic veered off topic when it began to talk to reference jimmy saville. Yet you only flag it up in reference to his knighthood. Strange.So what are you trying to infer now? just come out and say.Yes it did because you chose to take it that way as usual. Not inferring anyone. Good old Maggie was warned about his behaviour and still pushed for a knighthood. Nothing unusual about that. A pm wanting to honour a suspected paedophile Here’s a link to the BBC ( ironic, I know!) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23355531 It includes this paragraph “ "There is no indication in the papers that anything was known then about the allegations that have subsequently come to light about Jimmy Savile. The honours process was followed in accordance with the system at the time." So somehow you insist that the BBC hierarchy didn’t know but Maggie Thatcher did know! She was warned on several occasions And try reading what I actually said Always helps "I have read what you have written and more to the point, I understood! So, I’ll ask again. If , according to you, Thatcher knew and the mandarins in Whitehall knew, do you really believe that the BBC hierarchy didn’t know? | |||
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"https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23355531.ampAll that tells me is the establishment didnt want to knight a dj "who has sex with women he meets" shut the front door who would have thought celebrities would do that. But as usual this seems to have gone way off track with whataboutery once again, the bbc have been found out covering up the bashir scandal and my guess they did the same with him not the standards you would expect from the bbc on taxpayers money. Really.. she was repeatedly warned about his behaviour yet consistently pushed for a knighthood..why is this ? The topic veered off topic when it began to talk to reference jimmy saville. Yet you only flag it up in reference to his knighthood. Strange.So what are you trying to infer now? just come out and say.Yes it did because you chose to take it that way as usual. Not inferring anyone. Good old Maggie was warned about his behaviour and still pushed for a knighthood. Nothing unusual about that. A pm wanting to honour a suspected paedophile Here’s a link to the BBC ( ironic, I know!) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23355531 It includes this paragraph “ "There is no indication in the papers that anything was known then about the allegations that have subsequently come to light about Jimmy Savile. The honours process was followed in accordance with the system at the time." So somehow you insist that the BBC hierarchy didn’t know but Maggie Thatcher did know! She was warned on several occasions And try reading what I actually said Always helps
I have read what you have written and more to the point, I understood!
So, I’ll ask again. If , according to you, Thatcher knew and the mandarins in Whitehall knew, do you really believe that the BBC hierarchy didn’t know?"I don't know. I'll state again One more time.. at the time, as I recall,it was widely suspected what he was upto.However he was seen as a very powerful figure and people were scared of him. | |||
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"https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23355531.ampAll that tells me is the establishment didnt want to knight a dj "who has sex with women he meets" shut the front door who would have thought celebrities would do that. But as usual this seems to have gone way off track with whataboutery once again, the bbc have been found out covering up the bashir scandal and my guess they did the same with him not the standards you would expect from the bbc on taxpayers money. Really.. she was repeatedly warned about his behaviour yet consistently pushed for a knighthood..why is this ? The topic veered off topic when it began to talk to reference jimmy saville. Yet you only flag it up in reference to his knighthood. Strange.So what are you trying to infer now? just come out and say.Yes it did because you chose to take it that way as usual. Not inferring anyone. Good old Maggie was warned about his behaviour and still pushed for a knighthood. Nothing unusual about that. A pm wanting to honour a suspected paedophile Here’s a link to the BBC ( ironic, I know!) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23355531 It includes this paragraph “ "There is no indication in the papers that anything was known then about the allegations that have subsequently come to light about Jimmy Savile. The honours process was followed in accordance with the system at the time." So somehow you insist that the BBC hierarchy didn’t know but Maggie Thatcher did know! She was warned on several occasions And try reading what I actually said Always helps
I have read what you have written and more to the point, I understood!
So, I’ll ask again. If , according to you, Thatcher knew and the mandarins in Whitehall knew, do you really believe that the BBC hierarchy didn’t know?
I don't know.
I'll state again
One more time.. at the time, as I recall,it was widely suspected what he was upto.However he was seen as a very powerful figure and people were scared of him."Be sure to remove the splinters from your behind! | |||
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"Can and should the police go inti the bbc, and investigate the senior figures in the BBC and clean up this organisation? Its seems to be a den full of dodgy, self entitled immoral taxpayer grabbers, ripe for getting their collars felt by Scotland Yard " Let’s hope so mate. And any other media platform that employs such dubious methods such as phone hacking etc. | |||
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"https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23355531.ampAll that tells me is the establishment didnt want to knight a dj "who has sex with women he meets" shut the front door who would have thought celebrities would do that. But as usual this seems to have gone way off track with whataboutery once again, the bbc have been found out covering up the bashir scandal and my guess they did the same with him not the standards you would expect from the bbc on taxpayers money. Really.. she was repeatedly warned about his behaviour yet consistently pushed for a knighthood..why is this ? The topic veered off topic when it began to talk to reference jimmy saville. Yet you only flag it up in reference to his knighthood. Strange.So what are you trying to infer now? just come out and say.Yes it did because you chose to take it that way as usual. Not inferring anyone. Good old Maggie was warned about his behaviour and still pushed for a knighthood. Nothing unusual about that. A pm wanting to honour a suspected paedophile Here’s a link to the BBC ( ironic, I know!) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23355531 It includes this paragraph “ "There is no indication in the papers that anything was known then about the allegations that have subsequently come to light about Jimmy Savile. The honours process was followed in accordance with the system at the time." So somehow you insist that the BBC hierarchy didn’t know but Maggie Thatcher did know! She was warned on several occasions And try reading what I actually said Always helps
I have read what you have written and more to the point, I understood!
So, I’ll ask again. If , according to you, Thatcher knew and the mandarins in Whitehall knew, do you really believe that the BBC hierarchy didn’t know?
I don't know.
I'll state again
One more time.. at the time, as I recall,it was widely suspected what he was upto.However he was seen as a very powerful figure and people were scared of him."He wasnt a powerful figure He was a pervert who knew perverts in government He Knew high ranking perverts in Law system . He had plenty of info on lots of powerful perverts . The BBC Knew & told plenty about it . However those in real power would not allow The embarrassment of there organisations Parliament & The Justice system to be embarrassed. Much easier to leave him fester in the offices of the bbc. Dont tell me they couldnt of had him bumped off . People in Power liked Saville . ( only the devil would know why ) | |||
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"https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23355531.ampAll that tells me is the establishment didnt want to knight a dj "who has sex with women he meets" shut the front door who would have thought celebrities would do that. But as usual this seems to have gone way off track with whataboutery once again, the bbc have been found out covering up the bashir scandal and my guess they did the same with him not the standards you would expect from the bbc on taxpayers money. Really.. she was repeatedly warned about his behaviour yet consistently pushed for a knighthood..why is this ? The topic veered off topic when it began to talk to reference jimmy saville. Yet you only flag it up in reference to his knighthood. Strange.So what are you trying to infer now? just come out and say.Yes it did because you chose to take it that way as usual. Not inferring anyone. Good old Maggie was warned about his behaviour and still pushed for a knighthood. Nothing unusual about that. A pm wanting to honour a suspected paedophile Here’s a link to the BBC ( ironic, I know!) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23355531 It includes this paragraph “ "There is no indication in the papers that anything was known then about the allegations that have subsequently come to light about Jimmy Savile. The honours process was followed in accordance with the system at the time." So somehow you insist that the BBC hierarchy didn’t know but Maggie Thatcher did know! She was warned on several occasions And try reading what I actually said Always helps
I have read what you have written and more to the point, I understood!
So, I’ll ask again. If , according to you, Thatcher knew and the mandarins in Whitehall knew, do you really believe that the BBC hierarchy didn’t know?
I don't know.
I'll state again
One more time.. at the time, as I recall,it was widely suspected what he was upto.However he was seen as a very powerful figure and people were scared of him.
He wasnt a powerful figure
He was a pervert who knew perverts in government
He Knew high ranking perverts in Law system .
He had plenty of info on lots of powerful perverts .
The BBC Knew & told plenty about it .
However those in real power would not allow
The embarrassment of there organisations
Parliament & The Justice system to be embarrassed.
Much easier to leave him fester in the offices of the bbc.
Dont tell me they couldnt of had him bumped off .
People in Power liked Saville .
( only the devil would know why )"Hmm...he clearly had powerful friends so that made him virtually untouchable. Its funny that many in the NHS must have knew what he was upto but its just the bbc who 'covered 'it up. Strange that. | |||
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"https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23355531.ampAll that tells me is the establishment didnt want to knight a dj "who has sex with women he meets" shut the front door who would have thought celebrities would do that. But as usual this seems to have gone way off track with whataboutery once again, the bbc have been found out covering up the bashir scandal and my guess they did the same with him not the standards you would expect from the bbc on taxpayers money. Really.. she was repeatedly warned about his behaviour yet consistently pushed for a knighthood..why is this ? The topic veered off topic when it began to talk to reference jimmy saville. Yet you only flag it up in reference to his knighthood. Strange.So what are you trying to infer now? just come out and say.Yes it did because you chose to take it that way as usual. Not inferring anyone. Good old Maggie was warned about his behaviour and still pushed for a knighthood. Nothing unusual about that. A pm wanting to honour a suspected paedophile Here’s a link to the BBC ( ironic, I know!) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23355531 It includes this paragraph “ "There is no indication in the papers that anything was known then about the allegations that have subsequently come to light about Jimmy Savile. The honours process was followed in accordance with the system at the time." So somehow you insist that the BBC hierarchy didn’t know but Maggie Thatcher did know! She was warned on several occasions And try reading what I actually said Always helps
I have read what you have written and more to the point, I understood!
So, I’ll ask again. If , according to you, Thatcher knew and the mandarins in Whitehall knew, do you really believe that the BBC hierarchy didn’t know?
I don't know.
I'll state again
One more time.. at the time, as I recall,it was widely suspected what he was upto.However he was seen as a very powerful figure and people were scared of him.
He wasnt a powerful figure
He was a pervert who knew perverts in government
He Knew high ranking perverts in Law system .
He had plenty of info on lots of powerful perverts .
The BBC Knew & told plenty about it .
However those in real power would not allow
The embarrassment of there organisations
Parliament & The Justice system to be embarrassed.
Much easier to leave him fester in the offices of the bbc.
Dont tell me they couldnt of had him bumped off .
People in Power liked Saville .
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"https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23355531.ampAll that tells me is the establishment didnt want to knight a dj "who has sex with women he meets" shut the front door who would have thought celebrities would do that. But as usual this seems to have gone way off track with whataboutery once again, the bbc have been found out covering up the bashir scandal and my guess they did the same with him not the standards you would expect from the bbc on taxpayers money. Really.. she was repeatedly warned about his behaviour yet consistently pushed for a knighthood..why is this ? The topic veered off topic when it began to talk to reference jimmy saville. Yet you only flag it up in reference to his knighthood. Strange.So what are you trying to infer now? just come out and say.Yes it did because you chose to take it that way as usual. Not inferring anyone. Good old Maggie was warned about his behaviour and still pushed for a knighthood. Nothing unusual about that. A pm wanting to honour a suspected paedophile Here’s a link to the BBC ( ironic, I know!) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23355531 It includes this paragraph “ "There is no indication in the papers that anything was known then about the allegations that have subsequently come to light about Jimmy Savile. The honours process was followed in accordance with the system at the time." So somehow you insist that the BBC hierarchy didn’t know but Maggie Thatcher did know! She was warned on several occasions And try reading what I actually said Always helps
I have read what you have written and more to the point, I understood!
So, I’ll ask again. If , according to you, Thatcher knew and the mandarins in Whitehall knew, do you really believe that the BBC hierarchy didn’t know?
I don't know.
I'll state again
One more time.. at the time, as I recall,it was widely suspected what he was upto.However he was seen as a very powerful figure and people were scared of him.
He wasnt a powerful figure
He was a pervert who knew perverts in government
He Knew high ranking perverts in Law system .
He had plenty of info on lots of powerful perverts .
The BBC Knew & told plenty about it .
However those in real power would not allow
The embarrassment of there organisations
Parliament & The Justice system to be embarrassed.
Much easier to leave him fester in the offices of the bbc.
Dont tell me they couldnt of had him bumped off .
People in Power liked Saville .
( only the devil would know why )
Hmm...he clearly had powerful friends so that made him virtually untouchable.
Its funny that many in the NHS must have knew what he was upto but its just the bbc who 'covered 'it up.
Strange that."Its funny you should mention that . Michael Salmon A paediatrician was Jailed for Crimes on 3 teenage girls in 1990 He was re-arrested years later for crimes at the same place as Saville worked & at the same time . If thats not ckear cut that the NHS knew & Plod knew Then i dont know what is . As weve said before Maggie Thatch loved Saville Not sure the queenwas so keen on him . But they all would have known . | |||
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"I'm sorry if you believe either thex queen or Thatcher knew saville or anyone else were perverts then you are mistaken, 99% of people would never cover up kiddie fiddling" Read the link I posted earlier | |||
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"I'm sorry if you believe either thex queen or Thatcher knew saville or anyone else were perverts then you are mistaken, 99% of people would never cover up kiddie fiddling Read the link I posted earlier" I did and I posted this quote from it earlier "There is no indication in the papers that anything was known then about the allegations that have subsequently come to light about Jimmy Savile. The honours process was followed in accordance with the system at the time." Did you read the article or just the headline? | |||
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"Oh dear" It's for you to substantiate your proposition however? | |||
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"Oh dear" Does that mean you hadn’t actually read past the headline? | |||
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"If you just point me in the direction where I said Thatcher knew he was a nonce that would be greatly appreciated ""It's for you to substantiate your proposition however?" Avoiding this then? | |||
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"and . . . "The Cabinet Office said there was no indication in them that the prime minister or any officials knew about the allegations of sexual abuse and paedophilia against Savile - which emerged in full after his death in 2011." the initial concern was . . . "The heavily redacted papers show that Lady Thatcher first wrote to Sir Robert Armstrong, the most senior civil servant in the country at the time and chair of the honours committee, about the issue of a knighthood for Savile in 1983. Sir Robert vetoed the idea, saying it was too soon after "unfortunate revelations" in which the entertainer had boasted to the media of having sex with women he met while running charity marathons." " They knew back in the 60s . Savile's name was first mentioned in police records in 1964 with a ledger entry in the paedophile unit of London's Metropolitan Police Service, MPS . You dont get a mention in the peado unit without being involved . He knew . They knew he Knew others . It was all kept hush hush . | |||
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"If you just point me in the direction where I said Thatcher knew he was a nonce that would be greatly appreciated
"It's for you to substantiate your proposition however?"
Avoiding this then?"I'll take that a no Thank you | |||
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"If you just point me in the direction where I said Thatcher knew he was a nonce that would be greatly appreciated
"It's for you to substantiate your proposition however?"
Avoiding this then?
I'll take that a no
Thank you
"SO you are NOT going to substantiate your proposition then? | |||
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"Lord Hall has fallen on his sword I see. " He has. Yes. This is going to run for a while yet. | |||
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"If you just point me in the direction where I said Thatcher knew he was a nonce that would be greatly appreciated "OK, so you didn’t use the word nonce. What was the point of your posts re Saville and Thatcher then? | |||
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"If you just point me in the direction where I said Thatcher knew he was a nonce that would be greatly appreciated
OK, so you didn’t use the word nonce. What was the point of your posts re Saville and Thatcher then?"So your post was inaccurate then. | |||
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"If you just point me in the direction where I said Thatcher knew he was a nonce that would be greatly appreciated
OK, so you didn’t use the word nonce. What was the point of your posts re Saville and Thatcher then?
So your post was inaccurate then."In which way? I never used the word nonce either! | |||
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"If you just point me in the direction where I said Thatcher knew he was a nonce that would be greatly appreciated
OK, so you didn’t use the word nonce. What was the point of your posts re Saville and Thatcher then?
So your post was inaccurate then."SO you are NOT going to substantiate your proposition then? | |||
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"If you just point me in the direction where I said Thatcher knew he was a nonce that would be greatly appreciated
OK, so you didn’t use the word nonce. What was the point of your posts re Saville and Thatcher then?
So your post was inaccurate then.
In which way? I never used the word nonce either!"I camt be arsed losing the will to live again so I'll day this once. You clearly implied I said Thatcher knew he was a paedophile My exact words were she was warned about his behaviour and still petitioned for a knighthood (which he got unless I'm mistaken) So if you and your little pal wanna invent stuff up I never said..try and make it plausible  | |||
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"If you just point me in the direction where I said Thatcher knew he was a nonce that would be greatly appreciated
OK, so you didn’t use the word nonce. What was the point of your posts re Saville and Thatcher then?
So your post was inaccurate then.
In which way? I never used the word nonce either!
I camt be arsed losing the will to live again so I'll day this once.
You clearly implied I said Thatcher knew he was a paedophile
My exact words were she was warned about his behaviour and still petitioned for a knighthood (which he got unless I'm mistaken)
So if you and your little pal wanna invent stuff up I never said..try and make it plausible
"OK Lionel, I’m happy that we agree then that Thatcher obviously didn’t know he was a paedophile. | |||
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"I'm sorry if you believe either thex queen or Thatcher knew saville or anyone else were perverts then you are mistaken, 99% of people would never cover up kiddie fiddling Thatcher Knew So did the Queen So did every Chief of Police in the Country " Go on then post the proof they knew he had messed with kids, the article mentioned is about his claims of meeting women, you know a bit like swingers do. Make no mistake he should have been strung up, but there is no proof any of those you mention knew. | |||
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"If you just point me in the direction where I said Thatcher knew he was a nonce that would be greatly appreciated
OK, so you didn’t use the word nonce. What was the point of your posts re Saville and Thatcher then?
So your post was inaccurate then.
In which way? I never used the word nonce either!
I camt be arsed losing the will to live again so I'll day this once.
You clearly implied I said Thatcher knew he was a paedophile
My exact words were she was warned about his behaviour and still petitioned for a knighthood (which he got unless I'm mistaken)
So if you and your little pal wanna invent stuff up I never said..try and make it plausible
OK Lionel, I’m happy that we agree then that Thatcher obviously didn’t know he was a paedophile. "She was just warned about hos behaviour and still knighted him So obvs nothing to see here | |||
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"I'm sorry if you believe either thex queen or Thatcher knew saville or anyone else were perverts then you are mistaken, 99% of people would never cover up kiddie fiddling Thatcher Knew So did the Queen So did every Chief of Police in the Country Go on then post the proof they knew he had messed with kids, the article mentioned is about his claims of meeting women, you know a bit like swingers do. Make no mistake he should have been strung up, but there is no proof any of those you mention knew." I say the people he abused were proof tbf | |||
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"If you just point me in the direction where I said Thatcher knew he was a nonce that would be greatly appreciated
OK, so you didn’t use the word nonce. What was the point of your posts re Saville and Thatcher then?
So your post was inaccurate then.
In which way? I never used the word nonce either!
I camt be arsed losing the will to live again so I'll day this once.
You clearly implied I said Thatcher knew he was a paedophile
My exact words were she was warned about his behaviour and still petitioned for a knighthood (which he got unless I'm mistaken)
So if you and your little pal wanna invent stuff up I never said..try and make it plausible
"Again the article says he made claims about meeting women not under age ones but women, isnt that what you are trying to do on this site, | |||
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"If you just point me in the direction where I said Thatcher knew he was a nonce that would be greatly appreciated
OK, so you didn’t use the word nonce. What was the point of your posts re Saville and Thatcher then?
So your post was inaccurate then.
In which way? I never used the word nonce either!
I camt be arsed losing the will to live again so I'll day this once.
You clearly implied I said Thatcher knew he was a paedophile
My exact words were she was warned about his behaviour and still petitioned for a knighthood (which he got unless I'm mistaken)
So if you and your little pal wanna invent stuff up I never said..try and make it plausible
OK Lionel, I’m happy that we agree then that Thatcher obviously didn’t know he was a paedophile.
She was just warned about hos behaviour and still knighted him
So obvs nothing to see here
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"I'm sorry if you believe either thex queen or Thatcher knew saville or anyone else were perverts then you are mistaken, 99% of people would never cover up kiddie fiddling Thatcher Knew So did the Queen So did every Chief of Police in the Country Go on then post the proof they knew he had messed with kids, the article mentioned is about his claims of meeting women, you know a bit like swingers do. Make no mistake he should have been strung up, but there is no proof any of those you mention knew. I say the people he abused were proof tbf" The article I've seen said he claims he met women not that he claimed he abused them, | |||
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" The article I've seen said he claims he met women not that he claimed he abused them, " _____________________________ Yup. From the same article that Lionel provided . . . and . . . "The Cabinet Office said there was no indication in them that the prime minister or any officials knew about the allegations of sexual abuse and paedophilia against Savile - which emerged in full after his death in 2011." the initial concern was . . . "The heavily redacted papers show that Lady Thatcher first wrote to Sir Robert Armstrong, the most senior civil servant in the country at the time and chair of the honours committee, about the issue of a knighthood for Savile in 1983. Sir Robert vetoed the idea, saying it was too soon after "unfortunate revelations" in which the entertainer had boasted to the media of having sex with women he met while running charity marathons." ____________________________ | |||
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"If you just point me in the direction where I said Thatcher knew he was a nonce that would be greatly appreciated
OK, so you didn’t use the word nonce. What was the point of your posts re Saville and Thatcher then?
So your post was inaccurate then.
In which way? I never used the word nonce either!
I camt be arsed losing the will to live again so I'll day this once.
You clearly implied I said Thatcher knew he was a paedophile
My exact words were she was warned about his behaviour and still petitioned for a knighthood (which he got unless I'm mistaken)
So if you and your little pal wanna invent stuff up I never said..try and make it plausible
OK Lionel, I’m happy that we agree then that Thatcher obviously didn’t know he was a paedophile. "But she did know that Peter Hayman was one & stopped his name becoming public didnt she ? | |||
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"I'm sorry if you believe either thex queen or Thatcher knew saville or anyone else were perverts then you are mistaken, 99% of people would never cover up kiddie fiddling Thatcher Knew So did the Queen So did every Chief of Police in the Country Go on then post the proof they knew he had messed with kids, the article mentioned is about his claims of meeting women, you know a bit like swingers do. Make no mistake he should have been strung up, but there is no proof any of those you mention knew." https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/13330779.police-knew-jimmy-savile-king-cornets-gay-lovers---claim/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21756150.amp https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thenationalnews.com/world/europe/uk-police-knew-of-savile-abuse-from-early-1960s-inquiry-finds-1.296697 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20989247.amp | |||
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" But she did know that Peter Hayman was one & stopped his name becoming public didnt she ?" We should be thankful that she did - as he was an Intelligence Officer. | |||
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" But she did know that Peter Hayman was one & stopped his name becoming public didnt she ? We should be thankful that she did - as he was an Intelligence Officer. " He was a peado she kept out of jail to Scum protecting scum . If she protected him You know she proetected others . Still so happy to back a Nonce supporter like thatcher? | |||
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" But she did know that Peter Hayman was one & stopped his name becoming public didnt she ? We should be thankful that she did - as he was an Intelligence Officer. He was a peado she kept out of jail to Scum protecting scum . If she protected him You know she proetected others . Still so happy to back a Nonce supporter like thatcher? " No actually she was advised of his leanings, and as he was never charged he was never going to be sent to jail. So. No she did not keep him out of jail. | |||
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"So can.i ask.. is the logic that the everyone the bbc knew what he upto but a close personal friend and senior politicians running the country did not? Have I got that right?" Allegedly everybody knew. People love to do that after the fact don't they - quite a few on here like to do that kind of thing before that fact as well, don't they? But hey the Court of fab sits 7 days a week. It doesn't need much evidence - just an opinion will do - then . . . | |||
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"So can.i ask.. is the logic that the everyone the bbc knew what he upto but a close personal friend and senior politicians running the country did not? Have I got that right? Allegedly everybody knew. People love to do that after the fact don't they - quite a few on here like to do that kind of thing before that fact as well, don't they? But hey the Court of fab sits 7 days a week. It doesn't need much evidence - just an opinion will do - then . . ." Well that explains all the bbc harbouring paedophiles posts. | |||
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"I also find that senior advisors had concerns about giving saville a knighthood because he was a ladies man,slightly implausible " Yet. There it is in the Historical record from Government Papers. But hey ho what does History know. | |||
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"So can.i ask.. is the logic that the everyone the bbc knew what he upto but a close personal friend and senior politicians running the country did not? Have I got that right? Allegedly everybody knew. People love to do that after the fact don't they - quite a few on here like to do that kind of thing before that fact as well, don't they? But hey the Court of fab sits 7 days a week. It doesn't need much evidence - just an opinion will do - then . . . Well that explains all the bbc harbouring paedophiles posts." We can all have a favourite opinion, a horse to beat, a we hate Boris, a we hate SKS. Or any other Celeb or politician. But when all said and done and until it's a historical fact it's really just a historical fantasy. And history won't give a shit about that fantasy - only the history will. | |||
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" But she did know that Peter Hayman was one & stopped his name becoming public didnt she ? We should be thankful that she did - as he was an Intelligence Officer. He was a peado she kept out of jail to Scum protecting scum . If she protected him You know she proetected others . Still so happy to back a Nonce supporter like thatcher? No actually she was advised of his leanings, and as he was never charged he was never going to be sent to jail. So. No she did not keep him out of jail. " Stop being an apologist for a peado & people who covered up such crimes . | |||
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" But she did know that Peter Hayman was one & stopped his name becoming public didnt she ? We should be thankful that she did - as he was an Intelligence Officer. He was a peado she kept out of jail to Scum protecting scum . If she protected him You know she proetected others . Still so happy to back a Nonce supporter like thatcher? No actually she was advised of his leanings, and as he was never charged he was never going to be sent to jail. So. No she did not keep him out of jail. Stop being an apologist for a peado & people who covered up such crimes ." Ty for your concern. | |||
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" But she did know that Peter Hayman was one & stopped his name becoming public didnt she ? We should be thankful that she did - as he was an Intelligence Officer. He was a peado she kept out of jail to Scum protecting scum . If she protected him You know she proetected others . Still so happy to back a Nonce supporter like thatcher? No actually she was advised of his leanings, and as he was never charged he was never going to be sent to jail. So. No she did not keep him out of jail. Stop being an apologist for a peado & people who covered up such crimes . Ty for your concern. "Well you have to maje sure people dont get caught up in protecting peados . Otherwise stuffime Saville, Hayman & others get away with this sh*t . Even if they are tree loving tory huggers | |||
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"Whatever Bashir was or is, he is probably the epitome of this Century's 'Yellow Journalist Fellow'. Maybe there should be a Yellow Journalist of the year, or a Yellow Journalist of the Decade. Yellow Person of the year? Week? Month? It would kind of help us keep focus on what actually is the truth and what isn't " The Relevance of " Yellow " ? | |||
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"Whatever Bashir was or is, he is probably the epitome of this Century's 'Yellow Journalist Fellow'. Maybe there should be a Yellow Journalist of the year, or a Yellow Journalist of the Decade. Yellow Person of the year? Week? Month? It would kind of help us keep focus on what actually is the truth and what isn't The Relevance of " Yellow " ?" I have already said that above. | |||
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"Whatever Bashir was or is, he is probably the epitome of this Century's 'Yellow Journalist Fellow'. Maybe there should be a Yellow Journalist of the year, or a Yellow Journalist of the Decade. Yellow Person of the year? Week? Month? It would kind of help us keep focus on what actually is the truth and what isn't The Relevance of " Yellow " ? I have already said that above. "So its not to do with the colour of his skin ? I see yellow journalism is an american term For far fetched news stories . Obvioulsy it stopped working just before november 2016 . | |||
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"I dont see how anyone can call it yellow journalism With regards to the BBC . I can see some not very good practice in setting up An interview , bu i would hardly call it yellow Journalism . Maybe Fox News is.that kind of production but Not Auntie Beeb ." Then your understanding of yellow journalism is remiss. | |||
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"I dont see how anyone can call it yellow journalism With regards to the BBC . I can see some not very good practice in setting up An interview , bu i would hardly call it yellow Journalism . Maybe Fox News is.that kind of production but Not Auntie Beeb . Then your understanding of yellow journalism is remiss." Yellow journalism or the yellow press is a type of journalism that does not report much real news with facts. It uses shocking headlines that catch people's attention to sell more newspapers. Yellow journalism might include exaggerating facts or spreading rumors. I hardly think my knowledge is anything other than correct . No rumour was told oj the bbc interview between Bashir & Diane . A lie to help get her into an interview is correct. As was the affair between Charles & Camilla . No rumour with little fact there. | |||
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"It was 25 years ago - what else should we investigate and get all holier than though about? Bashir and people who knew what he was doing were wrong, but blaming today’s BBC is wrong. I mean what would happen if the following were investigate: Tory Party Tabloid Papers Metropolitan Police … The list would be endless… "Let them all go Scott free eh? | |||
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"I wonder what flanker the government will pull on us while everyone is conveniently distracted by this story?" here here | |||
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"I dont see how anyone can call it yellow journalism With regards to the BBC . I can see some not very good practice in setting up An interview , bu i would hardly call it yellow Journalism . Maybe Fox News is.that kind of production but Not Auntie Beeb . Then your understanding of yellow journalism is remiss. Yellow journalism or the yellow press is a type of journalism that does not report much real news with facts. It uses shocking headlines that catch people's attention to sell more newspapers. Yellow journalism might include exaggerating facts or spreading rumors. I hardly think my knowledge is anything other than correct . No rumour was told oj the bbc interview between Bashir & Diane . A lie to help get her into an interview is correct. As was the affair between Charles & Camilla . No rumour with little fact there." There. Google is your friend. | |||
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"I dont see how anyone can call it yellow journalism With regards to the BBC . I can see some not very good practice in setting up An interview , bu i would hardly call it yellow Journalism . Maybe Fox News is.that kind of production but Not Auntie Beeb . Then your understanding of yellow journalism is remiss. Yellow journalism or the yellow press is a type of journalism that does not report much real news with facts. It uses shocking headlines that catch people's attention to sell more newspapers. Yellow journalism might include exaggerating facts or spreading rumors. I hardly think my knowledge is anything other than correct . No rumour was told oj the bbc interview between Bashir & Diane . A lie to help get her into an interview is correct. As was the affair between Charles & Camilla . No rumour with little fact there. There. Google is your friend." Like you have never quickly googled to pursue a right wing agenda ? | |||
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"I dont see how anyone can call it yellow journalism With regards to the BBC . I can see some not very good practice in setting up An interview , bu i would hardly call it yellow Journalism . Maybe Fox News is.that kind of production but Not Auntie Beeb . Then your understanding of yellow journalism is remiss. Yellow journalism or the yellow press is a type of journalism that does not report much real news with facts. It uses shocking headlines that catch people's attention to sell more newspapers. Yellow journalism might include exaggerating facts or spreading rumors. I hardly think my knowledge is anything other than correct . No rumour was told oj the bbc interview between Bashir & Diane . A lie to help get her into an interview is correct. As was the affair between Charles & Camilla . No rumour with little fact there. There. Google is your friend. Like you have never quickly googled to pursue a right wing agenda ? " A right wing agenda? On here Perish the thought. | |||
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"I dont see how anyone can call it yellow journalism With regards to the BBC . I can see some not very good practice in setting up An interview , bu i would hardly call it yellow Journalism . Maybe Fox News is.that kind of production but Not Auntie Beeb . Then your understanding of yellow journalism is remiss. Yellow journalism or the yellow press is a type of journalism that does not report much real news with facts. It uses shocking headlines that catch people's attention to sell more newspapers. Yellow journalism might include exaggerating facts or spreading rumors. I hardly think my knowledge is anything other than correct . No rumour was told oj the bbc interview between Bashir & Diane . A lie to help get her into an interview is correct. As was the affair between Charles & Camilla . No rumour with little fact there. There. Google is your friend. Like you have never quickly googled to pursue a right wing agenda ? A right wing agenda? On here Perish the thought. " Im suprised that many survive being Trampled by the Goose Stepping | |||
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