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"Finally isreal can stop wiping out entire families. Great bunch of lads etc It's showing again Why can't we just congratulate Egypt?" Egypt did well to negotiate a peace Doent erase the shameful actions of isreal killing kids. | |||
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"Finally isreal can stop wiping out entire families. Great bunch of lads etc It's showing again Why can't we just congratulate Egypt? Egypt did well to negotiate a peace Doent erase the shameful actions of isreal killing kids." Or Hamas but this is about Egypt and how well they have done stopping the mindless killing on both sides. | |||
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"Finally isreal can stop wiping out entire families. Great bunch of lads etc It's showing again Why can't we just congratulate Egypt? Egypt did well to negotiate a peace Doent erase the shameful actions of isreal killing kids.Or Hamas but this is about Egypt and how well they have done stopping the mindless killing on both sides. " i dont condone Hamas, they only have crude missiles, unlike isreal who should be able to better target combatants. Its only a first step but well done Egypt Next wtep though is isreal obeying international law snd withdrawing from occupied territory | |||
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"Modern progressive nations quite often bulldoze people out of their homes tbf." Nah we just burn down cities and loot because people feel a need to do so. Innocent businesses that people poured thier life into. Same thing different methods. | |||
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"Modern progressive nations quite often bulldoze people out of their homes tbf. Nah we just burn down cities and loot because people feel a need to do so. Innocent businesses that people poured thier life into. Same thing different methods." What cities have the Palestinian people burnt down again,? | |||
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"Interesting America didnt put more pressure on them" Sleepy jo was probably in bed. | |||
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"Interesting America didnt put more pressure on them" Because we don't need to anymore. Egypt gets american taxpayer money they can brokers it since it is in their backyard. | |||
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"Modern progressive nations quite often bulldoze people out of their homes tbf. Nah we just burn down cities and loot because people feel a need to do so. Innocent businesses that people poured thier life into. Same thing different methods." Careful guy's there's a few on here who like to go running to admin when they see chat like that.....or if your not waving a Palestinian flag.. | |||
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"Modern progressive nations quite often bulldoze people out of their homes tbf. Nah we just burn down cities and loot because people feel a need to do so. Innocent businesses that people poured thier life into. Same thing different methods.Careful guy's there's a few on here who like to go running to admin when they see chat like that.....or if your not waving a Palestinian flag.." Is there now? Funny I cant see a Palestinian flag anywhere? | |||
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"For sorting out a ceasefire in Gaza. " Well done Egypt for arranging the cease-fire. Must have been very difficult but they done a good job. Hope it holds, early indicators are that it is | |||
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"Modern progressive nations quite often bulldoze people out of their homes tbf. Nah we just burn down cities and loot because people feel a need to do so. Innocent businesses that people poured thier life into. Same thing different methods.Careful guy's there's a few on here who like to go running to admin when they see chat like that.....or if your not waving a Palestinian flag.." Russians are building a military focused on killing people and breaking things. We're apparently building a military focused on being capable of explaining microaggressions and critical race theory to Afghan Tribesmen." | |||
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"Modern progressive nations quite often bulldoze people out of their homes tbf. Nah we just burn down cities and loot because people feel a need to do so. Innocent businesses that people poured thier life into. Same thing different methods.Careful guy's there's a few on here who like to go running to admin when they see chat like that.....or if your not waving a Palestinian flag.. Russians are building a military focused on killing people and breaking things. We're apparently building a military focused on being capable of explaining microaggressions and critical race theory to Afghan Tribesmen." " I ( Mr twosum ) saw the recent Russian military recruitment video and the American recruitment video....i wasn't sure what the he'll i was looking at from the American side..buy the video from Russia definitely said what they were about. | |||
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"Modern progressive nations quite often bulldoze people out of their homes tbf. Nah we just burn down cities and loot because people feel a need to do so. Innocent businesses that people poured thier life into. Same thing different methods.Careful guy's there's a few on here who like to go running to admin when they see chat like that.....or if your not waving a Palestinian flag.. Russians are building a military focused on killing people and breaking things. We're apparently building a military focused on being capable of explaining microaggressions and critical race theory to Afghan Tribesmen." I ( Mr twosum ) saw the recent Russian military recruitment video and the American recruitment video....i wasn't sure what the he'll i was looking at from the American side..buy the video from Russia definitely said what they were about." It's a joke and everyone wants us to intervene. Glad Egypt did and not us. | |||
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"Modern progressive nations quite often bulldoze people out of their homes tbf. Nah we just burn down cities and loot because people feel a need to do so. Innocent businesses that people poured thier life into. Same thing different methods.Careful guy's there's a few on here who like to go running to admin when they see chat like that.....or if your not waving a Palestinian flag.. Russians are building a military focused on killing people and breaking things. We're apparently building a military focused on being capable of explaining microaggressions and critical race theory to Afghan Tribesmen." I ( Mr twosum ) saw the recent Russian military recruitment video and the American recruitment video....i wasn't sure what the he'll i was looking at from the American side..buy the video from Russia definitely said what they were about. It's a joke and everyone wants us to intervene. Glad Egypt did and not us." America can do a lot more, not military obviously, but could lean on isreal to solve the root cause and follow international law. | |||
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"Modern progressive nations quite often bulldoze people out of their homes tbf. Nah we just burn down cities and loot because people feel a need to do so. Innocent businesses that people poured thier life into. Same thing different methods.Careful guy's there's a few on here who like to go running to admin when they see chat like that.....or if your not waving a Palestinian flag.. Russians are building a military focused on killing people and breaking things. We're apparently building a military focused on being capable of explaining microaggressions and critical race theory to Afghan Tribesmen." I ( Mr twosum ) saw the recent Russian military recruitment video and the American recruitment video....i wasn't sure what the he'll i was looking at from the American side..buy the video from Russia definitely said what they were about. It's a joke and everyone wants us to intervene. Glad Egypt did and not us. America can do a lot more, not military obviously, but could lean on isreal to solve the root cause and follow international law. " not sure why America should be the world's policeman... | |||
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"Modern progressive nations quite often bulldoze people out of their homes tbf. Nah we just burn down cities and loot because people feel a need to do so. Innocent businesses that people poured thier life into. Same thing different methods.Careful guy's there's a few on here who like to go running to admin when they see chat like that.....or if your not waving a Palestinian flag.. Russians are building a military focused on killing people and breaking things. We're apparently building a military focused on being capable of explaining microaggressions and critical race theory to Afghan Tribesmen." I ( Mr twosum ) saw the recent Russian military recruitment video and the American recruitment video....i wasn't sure what the he'll i was looking at from the American side..buy the video from Russia definitely said what they were about. It's a joke and everyone wants us to intervene. Glad Egypt did and not us. America can do a lot more, not military obviously, but could lean on isreal to solve the root cause and follow international law. " Umm NATO can lean more that is what it is Designed for so we spend taxpayer money on a paper tiger. I am all for someone else taking the reigns. Let Russian and Chinese give it a shot.Maybe they can enact change on a religious scale. Chinese are pretty great on oppression so are the Russians. | |||
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"Modern progressive nations quite often bulldoze people out of their homes tbf. Nah we just burn down cities and loot because people feel a need to do so. Innocent businesses that people poured thier life into. Same thing different methods.Careful guy's there's a few on here who like to go running to admin when they see chat like that.....or if your not waving a Palestinian flag.. Russians are building a military focused on killing people and breaking things. We're apparently building a military focused on being capable of explaining microaggressions and critical race theory to Afghan Tribesmen." I ( Mr twosum ) saw the recent Russian military recruitment video and the American recruitment video....i wasn't sure what the he'll i was looking at from the American side..buy the video from Russia definitely said what they were about. It's a joke and everyone wants us to intervene. Glad Egypt did and not us. America can do a lot more, not military obviously, but could lean on isreal to solve the root cause and follow international law. not sure why America should be the world's policeman..." Well in this case they are funding the military in Israel to strengthen any resistance to Israel’s constant ethnic cleansing and land grabbing! | |||
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"The US was putting pressure on Israel behind the scenes. The US was also putting pressure on Egypt behind the scenes to help negotiate a cease fire quickly. The US is also currently rearming Israel's iron dome missile defense system. The Palestinians have suffered enough because of bad leadership over the decades which resulted in conflict with Israel. And, because of this bad leadership for decades, which caused conflict, the Palestinians have had more and more of their land seized so Israel could feel more secure. The Palestinians need to stop following these bad leaders that they have been for decades, because it hasn't been a benefit for them, it's been a travesty for them. Make no mistake, if the Palestinians continue down this road of following these bad leaders, they will have no land left to fight for in the future. Hamas will lead the Palestinian people to destruction, and the Palestinian people deserve far better than that. I don't condone civilians being killed on either side, unfortunately that's just a horrible fact of war. The Palestinian people need to realize, they will never get the land that they considered theirs back, it will never happen, ever. That part of the equation is over, and has been for decades. They also need to realize that Israel isn't an occupation, its their land, its their country under international law. So, they need to focus on making their awful situation better, instead of making it worse by following radical leaders that they elected. If they elect good leaders, their lives will improve drastically, if they don't elect and follow good leaders, it will only get worse for them. It's their decision, hope they make a wise one. Israel definitely has a right to defend itself from any aggression, or from any perceivable threat that may come in the future, and they most definitely have the means and will. The Palestinians, and the other surrounding countries need to realize all this as fact, its not going to change, and just copitulate to international law. If not, they will continue to suffer for their mistakes in judgement. Israel was right on the verge of taking all of Gaza as their own this time to eliminate the Hamas threat, and then forcing the Palestinians to be refugees that would have to flee to other countries to live. That would be an absolute disaster for the Palestinian people. I hope the cease fire lasts and they decide on a better way forward, its to their own benefit to do so. " I don't think your statement is correct, A Google seach : " United Nations Security Council Resolution 2334 of 2016 states that Israel's settlement activity constitutes a "flagrant violation" of international law and has "no legal validity". ... The United Nations Human Rights Council has also called the Israeli settlements and related activities a violation of international law." If Isreal wanted to protect its own citizens, then they should withdraw from occupied territory | |||
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"The US was putting pressure on Israel behind the scenes. The US was also putting pressure on Egypt behind the scenes to help negotiate a cease fire quickly. The US is also currently rearming Israel's iron dome missile defense system. The Palestinians have suffered enough because of bad leadership over the decades which resulted in conflict with Israel. And, because of this bad leadership for decades, which caused conflict, the Palestinians have had more and more of their land seized so Israel could feel more secure. The Palestinians need to stop following these bad leaders that they have been for decades, because it hasn't been a benefit for them, it's been a travesty for them. Make no mistake, if the Palestinians continue down this road of following these bad leaders, they will have no land left to fight for in the future. Hamas will lead the Palestinian people to destruction, and the Palestinian people deserve far better than that. I don't condone civilians being killed on either side, unfortunately that's just a horrible fact of war. The Palestinian people need to realize, they will never get the land that they considered theirs back, it will never happen, ever. That part of the equation is over, and has been for decades. They also need to realize that Israel isn't an occupation, its their land, its their country under international law. So, they need to focus on making their awful situation better, instead of making it worse by following radical leaders that they elected. If they elect good leaders, their lives will improve drastically, if they don't elect and follow good leaders, it will only get worse for them. It's their decision, hope they make a wise one. Israel definitely has a right to defend itself from any aggression, or from any perceivable threat that may come in the future, and they most definitely have the means and will. The Palestinians, and the other surrounding countries need to realize all this as fact, its not going to change, and just copitulate to international law. If not, they will continue to suffer for their mistakes in judgement. Israel was right on the verge of taking all of Gaza as their own this time to eliminate the Hamas threat, and then forcing the Palestinians to be refugees that would have to flee to other countries to live. That would be an absolute disaster for the Palestinian people. I hope the cease fire lasts and they decide on a better way forward, its to their own benefit to do so. I don't think your statement is correct, A Google seach : " United Nations Security Council Resolution 2334 of 2016 states that Israel's settlement activity constitutes a "flagrant violation" of international law and has "no legal validity". ... The United Nations Human Rights Council has also called the Israeli settlements and related activities a violation of international law." If Isreal wanted to protect its own citizens, then they should withdraw from occupied territory " | |||
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"Modern progressive nations quite often bulldoze people out of their homes tbf. Nah we just burn down cities and loot because people feel a need to do so. Innocent businesses that people poured thier life into. Same thing different methods.Careful guy's there's a few on here who like to go running to admin when they see chat like that.....or if your not waving a Palestinian flag.. Russians are building a military focused on killing people and breaking things. We're apparently building a military focused on being capable of explaining microaggressions and critical race theory to Afghan Tribesmen." I ( Mr twosum ) saw the recent Russian military recruitment video and the American recruitment video....i wasn't sure what the he'll i was looking at from the American side..buy the video from Russia definitely said what they were about. It's a joke and everyone wants us to intervene. Glad Egypt did and not us. America can do a lot more, not military obviously, but could lean on isreal to solve the root cause and follow international law. not sure why America should be the world's policeman... Well in this case they are funding the military in Israel to strengthen any resistance to Israel’s constant ethnic cleansing and land grabbing! " And Iran funds Hamas. Would rather my money going to Israel. | |||
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"Modern progressive nations quite often bulldoze people out of their homes tbf. Nah we just burn down cities and loot because people feel a need to do so. Innocent businesses that people poured thier life into. Same thing different methods.Careful guy's there's a few on here who like to go running to admin when they see chat like that.....or if your not waving a Palestinian flag.. Russians are building a military focused on killing people and breaking things. We're apparently building a military focused on being capable of explaining microaggressions and critical race theory to Afghan Tribesmen." I ( Mr twosum ) saw the recent Russian military recruitment video and the American recruitment video....i wasn't sure what the he'll i was looking at from the American side..buy the video from Russia definitely said what they were about. It's a joke and everyone wants us to intervene. Glad Egypt did and not us. America can do a lot more, not military obviously, but could lean on isreal to solve the root cause and follow international law. not sure why America should be the world's policeman... Well in this case they are funding the military in Israel to strengthen any resistance to Israel’s constant ethnic cleansing and land grabbing! And Iran funds Hamas. Would rather my money going to Israel." amazing how people overlook either on purpose or they just don't know....but its in the charter off Hamas...the complete destruction off Israel and the Jewish people,sounds like a group you can negotiate with eh. | |||
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" And Iran funds Hamas. Would rather my money going to Israel." Depends on what isreal spends your taxes on? War or peaceful projects If isreal followed international law, that would de-legitimise both hamas and Iran's involvement. By withdrawal from the occupied territory would also put any aggression from hamas and iran squarely at fault under international law. America and isreal, both firm allies are currently seen as having double standards with international law unfortunately, as is the UK who are just as bad. | |||
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"Modern progressive nations quite often bulldoze people out of their homes tbf. Nah we just burn down cities and loot because people feel a need to do so. Innocent businesses that people poured thier life into. Same thing different methods.Careful guy's there's a few on here who like to go running to admin when they see chat like that.....or if your not waving a Palestinian flag.. Russians are building a military focused on killing people and breaking things. We're apparently building a military focused on being capable of explaining microaggressions and critical race theory to Afghan Tribesmen." I ( Mr twosum ) saw the recent Russian military recruitment video and the American recruitment video....i wasn't sure what the he'll i was looking at from the American side..buy the video from Russia definitely said what they were about. It's a joke and everyone wants us to intervene. Glad Egypt did and not us. America can do a lot more, not military obviously, but could lean on isreal to solve the root cause and follow international law. not sure why America should be the world's policeman... Well in this case they are funding the military in Israel to strengthen any resistance to Israel’s constant ethnic cleansing and land grabbing! And Iran funds Hamas. Would rather my money going to Israel.amazing how people overlook either on purpose or they just don't know....but its in the charter off Hamas...the complete destruction off Israel and the Jewish people,sounds like a group you can negotiate with eh." Have you read Israels 2018 Nation State Bill ? | |||
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" amazing how people overlook either on purpose or they just don't know....but its in the charter off Hamas...the complete destruction off Israel and the Jewish people,sounds like a group you can negotiate with eh." Well yes i agree, but does hamas both exist and get support because of isreal's actions? | |||
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"Modern progressive nations quite often bulldoze people out of their homes tbf. Nah we just burn down cities and loot because people feel a need to do so. Innocent businesses that people poured thier life into. Same thing different methods.Careful guy's there's a few on here who like to go running to admin when they see chat like that.....or if your not waving a Palestinian flag.. Russians are building a military focused on killing people and breaking things. We're apparently building a military focused on being capable of explaining microaggressions and critical race theory to Afghan Tribesmen." I ( Mr twosum ) saw the recent Russian military recruitment video and the American recruitment video....i wasn't sure what the he'll i was looking at from the American side..buy the video from Russia definitely said what they were about. It's a joke and everyone wants us to intervene. Glad Egypt did and not us. America can do a lot more, not military obviously, but could lean on isreal to solve the root cause and follow international law. not sure why America should be the world's policeman... Well in this case they are funding the military in Israel to strengthen any resistance to Israel’s constant ethnic cleansing and land grabbing! And Iran funds Hamas. Would rather my money going to Israel." So you are happy to sponsor the Genocide of a Nation state ? | |||
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"Modern progressive nations quite often bulldoze people out of their homes tbf. Nah we just burn down cities and loot because people feel a need to do so. Innocent businesses that people poured thier life into. Same thing different methods.Careful guy's there's a few on here who like to go running to admin when they see chat like that.....or if your not waving a Palestinian flag.. Russians are building a military focused on killing people and breaking things. We're apparently building a military focused on being capable of explaining microaggressions and critical race theory to Afghan Tribesmen." I ( Mr twosum ) saw the recent Russian military recruitment video and the American recruitment video....i wasn't sure what the he'll i was looking at from the American side..buy the video from Russia definitely said what they were about. It's a joke and everyone wants us to intervene. Glad Egypt did and not us. America can do a lot more, not military obviously, but could lean on isreal to solve the root cause and follow international law. not sure why America should be the world's policeman... Well in this case they are funding the military in Israel to strengthen any resistance to Israel’s constant ethnic cleansing and land grabbing! And Iran funds Hamas. Would rather my money going to Israel.amazing how people overlook either on purpose or they just don't know....but its in the charter off Hamas...the complete destruction off Israel and the Jewish people,sounds like a group you can negotiate with eh. Have you read Israels 2018 Nation State Bill ?" Just read it.... Wow | |||
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"Hamas:- terrorist organisation proscribed by the UK's Labour government in 2001. Members:- Palestinian men, women and children. In the same way that the British military forces aren't of the government, but of the country. It really isn't that difficult to understand." Would hamas still exist if isreal obeyed international law? | |||
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"When can we visit the Gaza Strip and observe their peaceful culture first hand? " Isreal holds the keys to the world's largest prison camp. They say who can enter/leave, how much food water they can/cant have | |||
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"When can we visit the Gaza Strip and observe their peaceful culture first hand? " Maybe try driving round tel Aviv with a Palestinian flag 1st? | |||
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"When can we visit the Gaza Strip and observe their peaceful culture first hand? Isreal holds the keys to the world's largest prison camp. They say who can enter/leave, how much food water they can/cant have " If Gaza is a prison camp,it Hamas who are the jailers not israel. | |||
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"Hamas:- terrorist organisation proscribed by the UK's Labour government in 2001. Is this statement true or false? If a Hamas supporter could answer this without lying or resorting to the usual whataboutery, I'd be grateful. " you might get an answer mate as there seems to be one or two Hamas supporter's here,though I'm not sure if they'll actually admit as much. | |||
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"Hamas:- terrorist organisation proscribed by the UK's Labour government in 2001. Is this statement true or false? If a Hamas supporter could answer this without lying or resorting to the usual whataboutery, I'd be grateful. you might get an answer mate as there seems to be one or two Hamas supporter's here,though I'm not sure if they'll actually admit as much." I never expect the truth from these people, but I am an optimist | |||
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"Hamas:- terrorist organisation proscribed by the UK's Labour government in 2001. Is this statement true or false? If a Hamas supporter could answer this without lying or resorting to the usual whataboutery, I'd be grateful. " I don't think the racist card was thrown about do you mate | |||
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"I'm still waiting for an answer. Are there no Hamas supporters on here brave enough? You're probably more comfortable bullying small children into fighting for your cause, so it's hardly a surprise there's been no response." I wouldnt hold your breath mate i ask 10 times on another thread for an answer yesterday and guess what? im still waiting. | |||
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"I'm still waiting for an answer. Are there no Hamas supporters on here brave enough? You're probably more comfortable bullying small children into fighting for your cause, so it's hardly a surprise there's been no response.I wouldnt hold your breath mate i ask 10 times on another thread for an answer yesterday and guess what? im still waiting. " In my experience, cowards always associate with cowards. No change here then. | |||
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"How strange that nobody has the courage to answer this - even the wizard of whataboutery is remaining uncharacteristically quiet " he might not have made his mind up yet | |||
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"Ahh so not advocating kids being wiped out means you are coward and not a racist.. I guess that's progress " Just answer his question its not hard. | |||
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"Quite weird how the isreal backers are so keen to throw around personal insults isnt it?" not sure were there has been personal insults...none actually...a straight question yes. | |||
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"Quite weird how the isreal backers are so keen to throw around personal insults isnt it?" Who,s backing Israel on here ? going to answer his question now , you know the answer is it so hard to say ? you never know you might regain a bit of credibility. | |||
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"Quite weird how the isreal backers are so keen to throw around personal insults isnt it?not sure were there has been personal insults...none actually...a straight question yes." Calling someone a coward isnt an insult? Ok | |||
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"Anybody accusing me of making personal insults is, of course, wrong. I have not quoted anybody in response. The only people I have made personal insults against are Hamas supporters. If you feel you have been personally insulted, please say so. " There is a lot of fragility on the forums at the moment. Things are not going people’s way politically it’s a trying time for some. You should perhaps show some empathy mate it’s hard for them. | |||
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"Quite weird how the isreal backers are so keen to throw around personal insults isnt it?not sure were there has been personal insults...none actually...a straight question yes. Calling someone a coward isnt an insult? Ok" As I said, I have only called Hamas supporters cowards. As you feel personally insulted, are you admitting to being a Hamas supporter? | |||
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"I have only made "digs" at Hamas supporters. If you are a Hamas supporter, and you feel I have made "digs" that are personal to you, please feel free to explain why they are personal to you. And also answer the questions above. Thank you in advance " Good luck | |||
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"When can we visit the Gaza Strip and observe their peaceful culture first hand? Isreal holds the keys to the world's largest prison camp. They say who can enter/leave, how much food water they can/cant have If Gaza is a prison camp,it Hamas who are the jailers not israel." Quick Google check result : "Gaza, like the West Bank, is surrounded by a large military wall with access only possible via two entrances, one from Israel (Erez crossing) and the other from Egypt (Rafah crossing). It is important to note that due to the siege on Gaza imposed by Israel and in cooperation with the current regime in Egypt, getting into Gaza is, physically and bureaucratically, very difficult." Sounds like a prison and runvby isreal, not hamas | |||
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"Surely Hamas is grateful for the support. " Problem i see it is hamas only exists because of isreal's behaviour of not abiding to international law. If isreal did then the reason for hamas to exist would be to a large extent, diminished | |||
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"WOW " Yep, not much calm logical debate in here at all | |||
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"WOW Yep, not much calm logical debate in here at all" Tbf you dont tend to called a nazi now so that's something. | |||
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"Yet another personal dig..losing count of these now" Yep its getting stupid now., "loose your cool, then you loose the debate. | |||
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"Surely Hamas is grateful for the support. Problem i see it is hamas only exists because of isreal's behaviour of not abiding to international law. If isreal did then the reason for hamas to exist would be to a large extent, diminished" Possibly. I wonder it that would tone down their abominable practices though. | |||
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"Yet another personal dig..losing count of these now Yep its getting stupid now., "loose your cool, then you loose the debate. " You get used to it..its like a pack mentality. | |||
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"Surely Hamas is grateful for the support. Problem i see it is hamas only exists because of isreal's behaviour of not abiding to international law. If isreal did then the reason for hamas to exist would be to a large extent, diminished" So you're admitting to be a supporter of Hamas? Did you know that in Palestine, selling land to Jews is a crime punishable by death? Just one of their delightful traits, apparently supported by a few on here. Disgusting. | |||
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"Noting like a bit of forum bullying " The whole concept of a forum is to debate and so when ask a question to back up a claim it is only etiquette to reply that way a debate can move on. To take part in a debate and not follow the etiquette is not only rude but says to me the person is not really interested in debating but in just making statements that is not the purpose of a forum. Hope this helps and may explain why you may perceive it as bullying when in fact some might just be frustrated by the lack of respect for the forum. | |||
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"Noting like a bit of forum bullying The whole concept of a forum is to debate and so when ask a question to back up a claim it is only etiquette to reply that way a debate can move on. To take part in a debate and not follow the etiquette is not only rude but says to me the person is not really interested in debating but in just making statements that is not the purpose of a forum. Hope this helps and may explain why you may perceive it as bullying when in fact some might just be frustrated by the lack of respect for the forum." I think you will find ganging up on 1 person, which happens on every thread,as has been pointed out by another poster, counts as bullying The fact you cant help yourself with the personal digs is also slightly worrying. | |||
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"Noting like a bit of forum bullying The whole concept of a forum is to debate and so when ask a question to back up a claim it is only etiquette to reply that way a debate can move on. To take part in a debate and not follow the etiquette is not only rude but says to me the person is not really interested in debating but in just making statements that is not the purpose of a forum. Hope this helps and may explain why you may perceive it as bullying when in fact some might just be frustrated by the lack of respect for the forum. I think you will find ganging up on 1 person, which happens on every thread,as has been pointed out by another poster, counts as bullying The fact you cant help yourself with the personal digs is also slightly worrying." Im just trying to help you with that post and you cant even see that ,i give up. | |||
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"Surely Hamas is grateful for the support. Problem i see it is hamas only exists because of isreal's behaviour of not abiding to international law. If isreal did then the reason for hamas to exist would be to a large extent, diminished Possibly. I wonder it that would tone down their abominable practices though. " Probably not. Might be too late now, might have had better results if fatah were still in charge, unless a deal can be struck with fatah in the West bank to discredit hamas in gaza | |||
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"Often better to step back, log off and have a nice cup of tea Just had a wonderful coffee after a lovely lunch by the gf’s mother. Life is wonderful. " | |||
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"Surely Hamas is grateful for the support. Problem i see it is hamas only exists because of isreal's behaviour of not abiding to international law. If isreal did then the reason for hamas to exist would be to a large extent, diminished Possibly. I wonder it that would tone down their abominable practices though. Probably not. Might be too late now, might have had better results if fatah were still in charge, unless a deal can be struck with fatah in the West bank to discredit hamas in gaza" Let’s hope that reason can find a way. | |||
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"Weird isnt it..a blatantly mysogist remark is made and there is utter radio silence Yet calling the pm a buffoon and you get called all sorts Suoerb" Could you point me to the misogyny. Ill happily denounce it | |||
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"Weird isnt it..a blatantly mysogist remark is made and there is utter radio silence Yet calling the pm a buffoon and you get called all sorts Suoerb Could you point me to the misogyny. Ill happily denounce it " The fact that you.need me to point it out says it all really. | |||
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"Weird isnt it..a blatantly mysogist remark is made and there is utter radio silence Yet calling the pm a buffoon and you get called all sorts Suoerb" Maybe it's because what the poster wrote - offensive (is to me at least) - but it isn't Misogynistic. "Misogyny is the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against women or girls. It enforces sexism by punishing those who reject an inferior status for women and rewarding those who accept it." It would be helpful for males to understand its proper meaning as it is an important concept. | |||
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"Weird isnt it..a blatantly mysogist remark is made and there is utter radio silence Yet calling the pm a buffoon and you get called all sorts Suoerb Could you point me to the misogyny. Ill happily denounce it The fact that you.need me to point it out says it all really." No the fact that I can't see it and would happily be educated says something though. | |||
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"Weird isnt it..a blatantly mysogist remark is made and there is utter radio silence Yet calling the pm a buffoon and you get called all sorts Suoerb Maybe it's because what the poster wrote - offensive (is to me at least) - but it isn't Misogynistic. "Misogyny is the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against women or girls. It enforces sexism by punishing those who reject an inferior status for women and rewarding those who accept it." It would be helpful for males to understand its proper meaning as it is an important concept. " This is my understanding of misogyny. I think the fact that a woman says something isn't misogynistic kinda gives the game away here. | |||
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"No place for myogositic remarks on the forums. All perps of casual remarks should be banned I reckon. " And I know I spelt it wrong. I can’t for the life of me get my autocarrot to correct it. | |||
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"Ha ha ha you serously couldnt make it this up.. A derogatory remark about Dianne abbot "fat arse'is not myogositic " Correct - remark wasn't misogynistic . . . by some it would be called offensive, however . . . so again . . . "Misogyny is the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against women or girls. It enforces sexism by punishing those who reject an inferior status for women and rewarding those who accept it." It would be helpful for males to understand its proper meaning as it is an important concept. | |||
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"Ha ha ha you serously couldnt make it this up.. A derogatory remark about Dianne abbot "fat arse'is not myogositic Correct - remark wasn't misogynistic . . . by some it would be called offensive, however . . . so again . . . "Misogyny is the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against women or girls. It enforces sexism by punishing those who reject an inferior status for women and rewarding those who accept it." It would be helpful for males to understand its proper meaning as it is an important concept. " I'm sure you wouod say exactly the same if I'd have said it | |||
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"Makes note to make note about priti Patels fat arse too see everyone backing me up" That's 'body-shaming'. And offensive too (to me at least). But not misogynistic. | |||
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"Ha ha ha you serously couldnt make it this up.. A derogatory remark about Dianne abbot "fat arse'is not myogositic Correct - remark wasn't misogynistic . . . by some it would be called offensive, however . . . so again . . . "Misogyny is the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against women or girls. It enforces sexism by punishing those who reject an inferior status for women and rewarding those who accept it." It would be helpful for males to understand its proper meaning as it is an important concept. I'm sure you wouod say exactly the same if I'd have said it" Oh Yes. I would. Misogyny is Misogyny. Just as blue is blue and not red. I won't just jump between accepted norms of societal understanding just for the convenience of posting a post. It also would be silly for me to do in light of the fact that someone would very quickly tell me just how wrong I was and also how duplicit I had been. | |||
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"Ha ha ha you serously couldnt make it this up.. A derogatory remark about Dianne abbot "fat arse'is not myogositic Correct - remark wasn't misogynistic . . . by some it would be called offensive, however . . . so again . . . "Misogyny is the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against women or girls. It enforces sexism by punishing those who reject an inferior status for women and rewarding those who accept it." It would be helpful for males to understand its proper meaning as it is an important concept. I'm sure you wouod say exactly the same if I'd have said it Oh Yes. I would. Misogyny is Misogyny. Just as blue is blue and not red. I won't just jump between accepted norms of societal understanding just for the convenience of posting a post. It also would be silly for me to do in light of the fact that someone would very quickly tell me just how wrong I was and also how duplicit I had been. " The fact that you and your mates have jumped on me..rather them addressing the remark Would suggest otherwise | |||
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"It's funny. I remember being called a mysogonost for making a daft remark about the time of the month..but a derogatory comment about some one fat ass(gender specific)is less offensive. Who.knew." And if you can't see the difference between them, there are lots of great books on Amazon (or your fav's retailer) that will help you along with that. | |||
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"Ha ha ha you serously couldnt make it this up.. A derogatory remark about Dianne abbot "fat arse'is not myogositic Correct - remark wasn't misogynistic . . . by some it would be called offensive, however . . . so again . . . "Misogyny is the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against women or girls. It enforces sexism by punishing those who reject an inferior status for women and rewarding those who accept it." It would be helpful for males to understand its proper meaning as it is an important concept. I'm sure you wouod say exactly the same if I'd have said it Oh Yes. I would. Misogyny is Misogyny. Just as blue is blue and not red. I won't just jump between accepted norms of societal understanding just for the convenience of posting a post. It also would be silly for me to do in light of the fact that someone would very quickly tell me just how wrong I was and also how duplicit I had been. The fact that you and your mates have jumped on me..rather them addressing the remark Would suggest otherwise " bit rich seeing now ref addressing remarks but whataboutery...Egypt population 100 million,10 Jews...Jordan population 10 million,0 Jews....Saudi Arabia 34 million,0 Jews....Lebanon population 7 million,100 Jews...Syria population 17 million,0 Jews...Iraq population 39 million,4Jews...Iran population 83 million,8,300 Jews......Arabs in Israel 1.9 million,9 million with full civil rights.....Gaza population 2 million,0 Jews...Palestinian Authority population 2.7 million,0 Jews.......but in your world Israel is an apartheid state and Hamas are freedom fighters... | |||
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"Let's not fall for the deliberate and rather pathetic attempt at derailing this thread - my questions above still go unanswered. Hamas supporters, please stand up and be accounted for - answer the questions. Your credibility is rapidly disappearing." How's your quest for an answer going. Hopefully it will be here soon. I seem to recall a week or two ago someone on here saying if a poster does not answer your question and deliberately deflects then they admit to being wrong or something along those lines. Maybe my memory playing tricks but sure it was said. Wonder who it was | |||
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"Losing count here..so that's 5 different posters making personal remarks..even referencing events from last week? Whilst the poster who makes a derogatory sexist comment ,receives absolutely not 1 word of condemnation. I'll let you all get on with it " Hmmm. I wrote that the post was offensive to me and may have been to others. You referenced your misogynistic post to me which was maybe two months ago now. | |||
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"Let's not fall for the deliberate and rather pathetic attempt at derailing this thread - my questions above still go unanswered. Hamas supporters, please stand up and be accounted for - answer the questions. Your credibility is rapidly disappearing. How's your quest for an answer going. Hopefully it will be here soon. I seem to recall a week or two ago someone on here saying if a poster does not answer your question and deliberately deflects then they admit to being wrong or something along those lines. Maybe my memory playing tricks but sure it was said. Wonder who it was" No, my questions remain unanswered, but I'm not really surprised. Yes, I remember that thread. Surely you're not trying to tell me that there are hypocrites on here? No, I refuse to believe that - oh wait | |||
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"It bears repeating this. 1 person has repeatedly called people who disagree with him terrorists and cowards and made a horribly sexist remark The only 2 people who have disagreed with him are m and deano Every single other posted has validated those opinion Standard." you still fail to see that by answering a simple question all this could have been avoided? | |||
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"Canada, the European Union, Israel, Japan and the United States have designated Hamas as a terrorist organization. Safe to say hamas is a terrorist group. But looks like someone disagrees. " Probslly because not wanting to see kids being blown up makes me a terrorist. Sorry if its confusing | |||
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"It bears repeating this. 1 person has repeatedly called people who disagree with him terrorists and cowards and made a horribly sexist remark The only 2 people who have disagreed with him are m and deano Every single other posted has validated those opinion Standard.you still fail to see that by answering a simple question all this could have been avoided? Ha ha ha So because I havent answered the question you feel no need to stop him calling other people terrorists and making offensive remarks?" As i said if it was answered in the first instance there would have been no need for any of this,you could have even said i dont care to answer and that would have been enough im begining to think maybe there is a reason you choose not to. | |||
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"It bears repeating this. 1 person has repeatedly called people who disagree with him terrorists and cowards and made a horribly sexist remark The only 2 people who have disagreed with him are m and deano Every single other posted has validated those opinion Standard.you still fail to see that by answering a simple question all this could have been avoided? Ha ha ha So because I havent answered the question you feel no need to stop him calling other people terrorists and making offensive remarks?As i said if it was answered in the first instance there would have been no need for any of this,you could have even said i dont care to answer and that would have been enough im begining to think maybe there is a reason you choose not to. " Maybe I dont like being called a terrorist,racist or coward? Just a thought. | |||
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"Canada, the European Union, Israel, Japan and the United States have designated Hamas as a terrorist organization. Safe to say hamas is a terrorist group. But looks like someone disagrees. " If only they had the courage to admit it! If any supporters of Hamas feel that I have made personal insults against them, please PM me directly. I can't say fairer than that, can I? | |||
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"It bears repeating this. 1 person has repeatedly called people who disagree with him terrorists and cowards and made a horribly sexist remark The only 2 people who have disagreed with him are m and deano Every single other posted has validated those opinion Standard. Seeing as to how you are horribly offended by such a remark, I’m sure that we won’t be seeing any derogatory remarks in future regarding certain politicians. After all, that would be hypocritical, would it not? Can you provide an example?" Buffoon. | |||
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"It bears repeating this. 1 person has repeatedly called people who disagree with him terrorists and cowards and made a horribly sexist remark The only 2 people who have disagreed with him are m and deano Every single other posted has validated those opinion Standard.you still fail to see that by answering a simple question all this could have been avoided? Ha ha ha So because I havent answered the question you feel no need to stop him calling other people terrorists and making offensive remarks?As i said if it was answered in the first instance there would have been no need for any of this,you could have even said i dont care to answer and that would have been enough im begining to think maybe there is a reason you choose not to. " Funny..who are quite happy to see people on here insulted..but god forbid anyone doesnt answer a question when it suits you? Still priorities eh? This thread is certainly an eye opener | |||
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"It bears repeating this. 1 person has repeatedly called people who disagree with him terrorists and cowards and made a horribly sexist remark The only 2 people who have disagreed with him are m and deano Every single other posted has validated those opinion Standard. Seeing as to how you are horribly offended by such a remark, I’m sure that we won’t be seeing any derogatory remarks in future regarding certain politicians. After all, that would be hypocritical, would it not? Can you provide an example? Buffoon. " So calling the pm a buffoon is personally more offensive than making a derogatory sexist remark. Like I said earlier..I'll bare this is mind and when I make a comment about priti fat arse in the future, I'll expect you all to come to my defence | |||
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"It bears repeating this. 1 person has repeatedly called people who disagree with him terrorists and cowards and made a horribly sexist remark The only 2 people who have disagreed with him are m and deano Every single other posted has validated those opinion Standard.you still fail to see that by answering a simple question all this could have been avoided? Ha ha ha So because I havent answered the question you feel no need to stop him calling other people terrorists and making offensive remarks?As i said if it was answered in the first instance there would have been no need for any of this,you could have even said i dont care to answer and that would have been enough im begining to think maybe there is a reason you choose not to. Funny..who are quite happy to see people on here insulted..but god forbid anyone doesnt answer a question when it suits you? Still priorities eh? This thread is certainly an eye opener " So, once again then Lionel, we can expect not to see any insults in any of your future posts? We may be be moving towards an adult forum! | |||
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"It bears repeating this. 1 person has repeatedly called people who disagree with him terrorists and cowards and made a horribly sexist remark The only 2 people who have disagreed with him are m and deano Every single other posted has validated those opinion Standard.you still fail to see that by answering a simple question all this could have been avoided? Ha ha ha So because I havent answered the question you feel no need to stop him calling other people terrorists and making offensive remarks?As i said if it was answered in the first instance there would have been no need for any of this,you could have even said i dont care to answer and that would have been enough im begining to think maybe there is a reason you choose not to. Funny..who are quite happy to see people on here insulted..but god forbid anyone doesnt answer a question when it suits you? Still priorities eh? This thread is certainly an eye opener So, once again then Lionel, we can expect not to see any insults in any of your future posts? We may be be moving towards an adult forum! " People point me in the direction where I have either called someone a rapist,terrorist and made a derogatory remark about a womans body Many thanks | |||
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"It bears repeating this. 1 person has repeatedly called people who disagree with him terrorists and cowards and made a horribly sexist remark The only 2 people who have disagreed with him are m and deano Every single other posted has validated those opinion Standard.you still fail to see that by answering a simple question all this could have been avoided? Ha ha ha So because I havent answered the question you feel no need to stop him calling other people terrorists and making offensive remarks?As i said if it was answered in the first instance there would have been no need for any of this,you could have even said i dont care to answer and that would have been enough im begining to think maybe there is a reason you choose not to. Funny..who are quite happy to see people on here insulted..but god forbid anyone doesnt answer a question when it suits you? Still priorities eh? This thread is certainly an eye opener " Who said im happy seeing people insulted? you are making stuff up again isnt that something you often accuse boris of but are happy to consistently do it yourself strange.But back on point scroll back and see for yourself a simple answer and that would have stopped all this whataboutery and you feeling that you have been insulted. | |||
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"It bears repeating this. 1 person has repeatedly called people who disagree with him terrorists and cowards and made a horribly sexist remark The only 2 people who have disagreed with him are m and deano Every single other posted has validated those opinion Standard.you still fail to see that by answering a simple question all this could have been avoided? Ha ha ha So because I havent answered the question you feel no need to stop him calling other people terrorists and making offensive remarks?As i said if it was answered in the first instance there would have been no need for any of this,you could have even said i dont care to answer and that would have been enough im begining to think maybe there is a reason you choose not to. Funny..who are quite happy to see people on here insulted..but god forbid anyone doesnt answer a question when it suits you? Still priorities eh? This thread is certainly an eye opener Who said im happy seeing people insulted? you are making stuff up again isnt that something you often accuse boris of but are happy to consistently do it yourself strange.But back on point scroll back and see for yourself a simple answer and that would have stopped all this whataboutery and you feeling that you have been insulted." Feeling like I've been insulted | |||
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"It bears repeating this. 1 person has repeatedly called people who disagree with him terrorists and cowards and made a horribly sexist remark The only 2 people who have disagreed with him are m and deano Every single other posted has validated those opinion Standard.you still fail to see that by answering a simple question all this could have been avoided? Ha ha ha So because I havent answered the question you feel no need to stop him calling other people terrorists and making offensive remarks?As i said if it was answered in the first instance there would have been no need for any of this,you could have even said i dont care to answer and that would have been enough im begining to think maybe there is a reason you choose not to. Funny..who are quite happy to see people on here insulted..but god forbid anyone doesnt answer a question when it suits you? Still priorities eh? This thread is certainly an eye opener So, once again then Lionel, we can expect not to see any insults in any of your future posts? We may be be moving towards an adult forum! People point me in the direction where I have either called someone a rapist,terrorist and made a derogatory remark about a womans body Many thanks " I’m talking all insults Lionel. | |||
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"It bears repeating this. 1 person has repeatedly called people who disagree with him terrorists and cowards and made a horribly sexist remark The only 2 people who have disagreed with him are m and deano Every single other posted has validated those opinion Standard.you still fail to see that by answering a simple question all this could have been avoided? Ha ha ha So because I havent answered the question you feel no need to stop him calling other people terrorists and making offensive remarks?As i said if it was answered in the first instance there would have been no need for any of this,you could have even said i dont care to answer and that would have been enough im begining to think maybe there is a reason you choose not to. Funny..who are quite happy to see people on here insulted..but god forbid anyone doesnt answer a question when it suits you? Still priorities eh? This thread is certainly an eye opener So, once again then Lionel, we can expect not to see any insults in any of your future posts? We may be be moving towards an adult forum! People point me in the direction where I have either called someone a rapist,terrorist and made a derogatory remark about a womans body Many thanks I’m talking all insults Lionel." So..you cant...glad that's cleared up | |||
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"It bears repeating this. 1 person has repeatedly called people who disagree with him terrorists and cowards and made a horribly sexist remark The only 2 people who have disagreed with him are m and deano Every single other posted has validated those opinion Standard.you still fail to see that by answering a simple question all this could have been avoided? Ha ha ha So because I havent answered the question you feel no need to stop him calling other people terrorists and making offensive remarks?As i said if it was answered in the first instance there would have been no need for any of this,you could have even said i dont care to answer and that would have been enough im begining to think maybe there is a reason you choose not to. Funny..who are quite happy to see people on here insulted..but god forbid anyone doesnt answer a question when it suits you? Still priorities eh? This thread is certainly an eye opener So, once again then Lionel, we can expect not to see any insults in any of your future posts? We may be be moving towards an adult forum! People point me in the direction where I have either called someone a rapist,terrorist and made a derogatory remark about a womans body Many thanks I’m talking all insults Lionel. So..you cant...glad that's cleared up " Once again, you’ve avoided the question. Can we now expect not to see any insults from you in future in any forum posts? | |||
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"It bears repeating this. 1 person has repeatedly called people who disagree with him terrorists and cowards and made a horribly sexist remark The only 2 people who have disagreed with him are m and deano Every single other posted has validated those opinion Standard. Seeing as to how you are horribly offended by such a remark, I’m sure that we won’t be seeing any derogatory remarks in future regarding certain politicians. After all, that would be hypocritical, would it not? Can you provide an example?" Not a politician but you called David Baddiel a prick recently | |||
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" Seeing as to how you are horribly offended by such a remark, I’m sure that we won’t be seeing any derogatory remarks in future regarding certain politicians. After all, that would be hypocritical, would it not? Can you provide an example? Buffoon. So calling the pm a buffoon is personally more offensive than making a derogatory sexist remark. Like I said earlier..I'll bare this is mind and when I make a comment about priti fat arse in the future, I'll expect you all to come to my defence " That wasn't the question you asked though, was it? You just now changed it too 'more offensive than'. It's what you usually do. So I'm used to that. ***********************I already said that the remark the poster wrote was offensive to me and maybe others too.************************** Buffoon is still a derogatory remark whether you measure it by any other standard. If you are calling out derogatory remark making then I assume (as the other poster did) that you would be setting that to your own standard too? | |||
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"It bears repeating this. 1 person has repeatedly called people who disagree with him terrorists and cowards and made a horribly sexist remark The only 2 people who have disagreed with him are m and deano Every single other posted has validated those opinion Standard. Seeing as to how you are horribly offended by such a remark, I’m sure that we won’t be seeing any derogatory remarks in future regarding certain politicians. After all, that would be hypocritical, would it not? Can you provide an example? Not a politician but you called David Baddiel a prick recently" Is he on here? | |||
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"It bears repeating this. 1 person has repeatedly called people who disagree with him terrorists and cowards and made a horribly sexist remark The only 2 people who have disagreed with him are m and deano Every single other posted has validated those opinion Standard. Seeing as to how you are horribly offended by such a remark, I’m sure that we won’t be seeing any derogatory remarks in future regarding certain politicians. After all, that would be hypocritical, would it not? Can you provide an example? Not a politician but you called David Baddiel a prick recently Is he on here?" Insult is an insult no matter where it’s aimed | |||
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" Can you provide an example? Not a politician but you called David Baddiel a prick recently Is he on here? Insult is an insult no matter where it’s aimed" Or to which place it is directed. | |||
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