Join us FREE, we're FREE to use
Web's largest swingers site since 2006.
Already registered?
Login here
![]() | Back to forum list |
![]() | Back to Politics |
Jump to newest | ![]() |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
" The fact that senior leaders of the gmnt have to be consistently fact checked is really something. " Most leaders, including opposition parties, public figures are fact-checked these days. Makes for better circulation to fact-check the minutiae of 'everything'. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
" The fact that senior leaders of the gmnt have to be consistently fact checked is really something. Most leaders, including opposition parties, public figures are fact-checked these days. Makes for better circulation to fact-check the minutiae of 'everything'. " Hmmm..is lying about letting the virus spread here from a country getting battered by it..minutiae? | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
" The fact that senior leaders of the gmnt have to be consistently fact checked is really something. Most leaders, including opposition parties, public figures are fact-checked these days. Makes for better circulation to fact-check the minutiae of 'everything'. Hmmm..is lying about letting the virus spread here from a country getting battered by it..minutiae?" Oh dear. There you go again with saying something I actually didn't say. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
" The fact that senior leaders of the gmnt have to be consistently fact checked is really something. Most leaders, including opposition parties, public figures are fact-checked these days. Makes for better circulation to fact-check the minutiae of 'everything'. Hmmm..is lying about letting the virus spread here from a country getting battered by it..minutiae? Oh dear. There you go again with saying something I actually didn't say. " You said..to fact check the miniatue of everything They dont fact check what collection of clowns had for breakfast. They fact checks statements made in parliament. And this one..seems to be..surprise surprise.. another lie. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"I also said 'MOST'. Which is non-person specific. ![]() So no opinion on the health secretary lying to parliament? | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
" They dont fact check what collection of clowns had for breakfast. " Extraordinary. They facts checked masks - Vaccines - Covid infection in humans - risk of dying from covid - 5G - Sir David Attenborough - Vaccines ccasued deaths - fake missing child reports - Teeth whitening - French car share and battery failures. I can't specifically find Clowns, but as you can see there is a wide fact-checking on a whole minutia of subjects and people. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
" The fact that senior leaders of the gmnt have to be consistently fact checked is really something. Most leaders, including opposition parties, public figures are fact-checked these days. Makes for better circulation to fact-check the minutiae of 'everything'. Hmmm..is lying about letting the virus spread here from a country getting battered by it..minutiae?" Have you fact checked it if so what were your findings? | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"I also said 'MOST'. Which is non-person specific. ![]() I'm not the Jury. So I will wait for his response and then get back to you. "We asked the Department of Health whether figures from a different source support Mr Hancock's claim - but it has not yet responded." | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
" ![]() TY. Glad to have helped. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Slightly ot but it's still about Hancock He tweeted the other day..today I was at the west Suffolk hospital.. 1 of the 40 we are going to build. Hospital built in 1973 ![]() Ah, good old Tory lies, but not to worry, their die hard followers have been taught to dismiss them and blame it on others . | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"and you don't have to be a Genius to have read the whole story eiter: "The relocation of West Suffolk Hospital to provide a better patient environment "will happen", Matt Hancock has said. The proposal is to build the new hospital on the 70-acre Hardwick Manor site, next to the current hospital building, as part of the government's pledge to provide 40 new hospitals by 2030." ![]() So they will have 2 hospitals? Wow Good for them ![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"and you don't have to be a Genius to have read the whole story eiter: "The relocation of West Suffolk Hospital to provide a better patient environment "will happen", Matt Hancock has said. The proposal is to build the new hospital on the 70-acre Hardwick Manor site, next to the current hospital building, as part of the government's pledge to provide 40 new hospitals by 2030." ![]() ![]() Not the genius story that you wrote though, was it? Yea. They will have two on the same site, but I'm kind of guessing as with most Hospital re-builds go that it will become a mix of New Main Hospital and whatever they can still use from the old one. Haven't seen a Hospital anywhere that didn't have a New one built that didn't keep many parts of the old one. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"and you don't have to be a Genius to have read the whole story eiter: "The relocation of West Suffolk Hospital to provide a better patient environment "will happen", Matt Hancock has said. The proposal is to build the new hospital on the 70-acre Hardwick Manor site, next to the current hospital building, as part of the government's pledge to provide 40 new hospitals by 2030." ![]() ![]() So they are basically going to replace the hospital then? | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"I think the clue is in the words New Hospital. " To replace the old one. There was a hospital there before. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"and you don't have to be a Genius to have read the whole story eiter: "The relocation of West Suffolk Hospital to provide a better patient environment "will happen", Matt Hancock has said. The proposal is to build the new hospital on the 70-acre Hardwick Manor site, next to the current hospital building, as part of the government's pledge to provide 40 new hospitals by 2030." ![]() ![]() Funny we have more than 2 doesn't merseyside? | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Don't see what your problem would be with replacing a Hospital that was built in 1973." I dont have one. I do have an issue with claiming you are building 40 new hospitals when you are essentially updating a few. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"and you don't have to be a Genius to have read the whole story eiter: "The relocation of West Suffolk Hospital to provide a better patient environment "will happen", Matt Hancock has said. The proposal is to build the new hospital on the 70-acre Hardwick Manor site, next to the current hospital building, as part of the government's pledge to provide 40 new hospitals by 2030." ![]() ![]() Sort of missing the point. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Don't see what your problem would be with replacing a Hospital that was built in 1973. I dont have one. I do have an issue with claiming you are building 40 new hospitals when you are essentially updating a few." The full story said: Building a New One on the adjacent site. So NOT just updating really. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Don't see what your problem would be with replacing a Hospital that was built in 1973. I dont have one. I do have an issue with claiming you are building 40 new hospitals when you are essentially updating a few. The full story said: Building a New One on the adjacent site. So NOT just updating really. " There was a hospital there previously.. they are building a new one to replace the old one. Therefore the 40 new hospitals is completely misleading. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"from a local paper. Stephen Dunn, WSFT’s chief executive, said: “One of the benefits about this proposal is the possibility of keeping some of the current site based at Hardwick Lane including many of the most recent additions such as the education centre and eye care centre, allowing us to make the best use of public funds. “The trust is also incredibly fortunate to have partner organisations on our site such as St Nicholas Hospice and mental health provider Norfolk and Suffolk NHS Foundation Trust." Was there a hospital there before? A simple yes or no will do | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"from a local paper. Stephen Dunn, WSFT’s chief executive, said: “One of the benefits about this proposal is the possibility of keeping some of the current site based at Hardwick Lane including many of the most recent additions such as the education centre and eye care centre, allowing us to make the best use of public funds. “The trust is also incredibly fortunate to have partner organisations on our site such as St Nicholas Hospice and mental health provider Norfolk and Suffolk NHS Foundation Trust." And alongside that a BRAND NEW HOSPITAL on the adjacent site. Not a Brand new old hospital, but a brand new new one. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Another none story . ![]() A fact check completely disproves a gmnt claim and it's a non story ![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"from a local paper. Stephen Dunn, WSFT’s chief executive, said: “One of the benefits about this proposal is the possibility of keeping some of the current site based at Hardwick Lane including many of the most recent additions such as the education centre and eye care centre, allowing us to make the best use of public funds. “The trust is also incredibly fortunate to have partner organisations on our site such as St Nicholas Hospice and mental health provider Norfolk and Suffolk NHS Foundation Trust. Was there a hospital there before? A simple yes or no will do" Okay riddle me this then - Builder builds a house on an old plot - is that a new house or still the old one? | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"from a local paper. Stephen Dunn, WSFT’s chief executive, said: “One of the benefits about this proposal is the possibility of keeping some of the current site based at Hardwick Lane including many of the most recent additions such as the education centre and eye care centre, allowing us to make the best use of public funds. “The trust is also incredibly fortunate to have partner organisations on our site such as St Nicholas Hospice and mental health provider Norfolk and Suffolk NHS Foundation Trust. Was there a hospital there before? A simple yes or no will do Okay riddle me this then - Builder builds a house on an old plot - is that a new house or still the old one?" Hmmm..did that answer my question? | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"from a local paper. Stephen Dunn, WSFT’s chief executive, said: “One of the benefits about this proposal is the possibility of keeping some of the current site based at Hardwick Lane including many of the most recent additions such as the education centre and eye care centre, allowing us to make the best use of public funds. “The trust is also incredibly fortunate to have partner organisations on our site such as St Nicholas Hospice and mental health provider Norfolk and Suffolk NHS Foundation Trust. Was there a hospital there before? A simple yes or no will do Okay riddle me this then - Builder builds a house on an old plot - is that a new house or still the old one? Hmmm..did that answer my question?" Hazard a guess at the answer and while you are doing it the answer will dawn on you. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"from a local paper. Stephen Dunn, WSFT’s chief executive, said: “One of the benefits about this proposal is the possibility of keeping some of the current site based at Hardwick Lane including many of the most recent additions such as the education centre and eye care centre, allowing us to make the best use of public funds. “The trust is also incredibly fortunate to have partner organisations on our site such as St Nicholas Hospice and mental health provider Norfolk and Suffolk NHS Foundation Trust. Was there a hospital there before? A simple yes or no will do" Looks up at clouds... | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"from a local paper. Stephen Dunn, WSFT’s chief executive, said: “One of the benefits about this proposal is the possibility of keeping some of the current site based at Hardwick Lane including many of the most recent additions such as the education centre and eye care centre, allowing us to make the best use of public funds. “The trust is also incredibly fortunate to have partner organisations on our site such as St Nicholas Hospice and mental health provider Norfolk and Suffolk NHS Foundation Trust. Was there a hospital there before? A simple yes or no will do Okay riddle me this then - Builder builds a house on an old plot - is that a new house or still the old one? Hmmm..did that answer my question? Hazard a guess at the answer and while you are doing it the answer will dawn on you." If you cant answer a simple question ..I think not. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"from a local paper. Stephen Dunn, WSFT’s chief executive, said: “One of the benefits about this proposal is the possibility of keeping some of the current site based at Hardwick Lane including many of the most recent additions such as the education centre and eye care centre, allowing us to make the best use of public funds. “The trust is also incredibly fortunate to have partner organisations on our site such as St Nicholas Hospice and mental health provider Norfolk and Suffolk NHS Foundation Trust. Was there a hospital there before? A simple yes or no will do Okay riddle me this then - Builder builds a house on an old plot - is that a new house or still the old one? Hmmm..did that answer my question? Hazard a guess at the answer and while you are doing it the answer will dawn on you. If you cant answer a simple question ..I think not." Yes and there will still be parts of the old hospital there as i have pointed out in the article along side a new one at an adjacent site,has that answered your question? ![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Susperlols Why are you shouting? I've asked you both a simple question Yes or no will do No answer so I'm done ![]() It’s like trying to get an answer from Spaffer Boris at PMQs ![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Susperlols Why are you shouting? I've asked you both a simple question Yes or no will do No answer so I'm done ![]() ![]() Ive answered mate cant you read now either? | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Susperlols Why are you shouting? I've asked you both a simple question Yes or no will do No answer so I'm done ![]() ![]() If you type in CAPITALS it might help me to understand ![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"What the hell has a new hospital in suffolk got to do with hanncock and India as per the title of the op? " Couldnt be arsed starting a new one | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"from a local paper. Stephen Dunn, WSFT’s chief executive, said: “One of the benefits about this proposal is the possibility of keeping some of the current site based at Hardwick Lane including many of the most recent additions such as the education centre and eye care centre, allowing us to make the best use of public funds. “The trust is also incredibly fortunate to have partner organisations on our site such as St Nicholas Hospice and mental health provider Norfolk and Suffolk NHS Foundation Trust. Was there a hospital there before? A simple yes or no will do Okay riddle me this then - Builder builds a house on an old plot - is that a new house or still the old one? Hmmm..did that answer my question? Hazard a guess at the answer and while you are doing it the answer will dawn on you. If you cant answer a simple question ..I think not.Yes and there will still be parts of the old hospital there as i have pointed out in the article along side a new one at an adjacent site,has that answered your question? ![]() So they are replacing a hospital that was already there. Therefore the claim that it is a 'new'hoospital is misleading. The area will have the same no of hospitals as it had previously. Glad we cleard that up ![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Man has one house Man knocks down and renovates part of his house How many houses does he now have ? " Nothing to do with how many houses does he have, it's whether or not the new house is NEW. And Built on a site adjacent. Gaaaawd. ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Susperlols Why are you shouting? I've asked you both a simple question Yes or no will do No answer so I'm done ![]() ![]() ![]() Just read back - then you will. (Green Face) | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"from a local paper. Stephen Dunn, WSFT’s chief executive, said: “One of the benefits about this proposal is the possibility of keeping some of the current site based at Hardwick Lane including many of the most recent additions such as the education centre and eye care centre, allowing us to make the best use of public funds. “The trust is also incredibly fortunate to have partner organisations on our site such as St Nicholas Hospice and mental health provider Norfolk and Suffolk NHS Foundation Trust. Was there a hospital there before? A simple yes or no will do Okay riddle me this then - Builder builds a house on an old plot - is that a new house or still the old one? Hmmm..did that answer my question? Hazard a guess at the answer and while you are doing it the answer will dawn on you. If you cant answer a simple question ..I think not.Yes and there will still be parts of the old hospital there as i have pointed out in the article along side a new one at an adjacent site,has that answered your question? ![]() ![]() 0 + 1= 2, apparently | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"from a local paper. Stephen Dunn, WSFT’s chief executive, said: “One of the benefits about this proposal is the possibility of keeping some of the current site based at Hardwick Lane including many of the most recent additions such as the education centre and eye care centre, allowing us to make the best use of public funds. “The trust is also incredibly fortunate to have partner organisations on our site such as St Nicholas Hospice and mental health provider Norfolk and Suffolk NHS Foundation Trust. Was there a hospital there before? A simple yes or no will do Okay riddle me this then - Builder builds a house on an old plot - is that a new house or still the old one? Hmmm..did that answer my question? Hazard a guess at the answer and while you are doing it the answer will dawn on you. If you cant answer a simple question ..I think not.Yes and there will still be parts of the old hospital there as i have pointed out in the article along side a new one at an adjacent site,has that answered your question? ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"from a local paper. Stephen Dunn, WSFT’s chief executive, said: “One of the benefits about this proposal is the possibility of keeping some of the current site based at Hardwick Lane including many of the most recent additions such as the education centre and eye care centre, allowing us to make the best use of public funds. “The trust is also incredibly fortunate to have partner organisations on our site such as St Nicholas Hospice and mental health provider Norfolk and Suffolk NHS Foundation Trust. Was there a hospital there before? A simple yes or no will do Okay riddle me this then - Builder builds a house on an old plot - is that a new house or still the old one? Hmmm..did that answer my question? Hazard a guess at the answer and while you are doing it the answer will dawn on you. If you cant answer a simple question ..I think not.Yes and there will still be parts of the old hospital there as i have pointed out in the article along side a new one at an adjacent site,has that answered your question? ![]() ![]() ![]() Or is it 1 - 1 + 1 = 2 , apparently ![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Even by Lionels usual standards this really is being thick. A few years back our local hospital was replaced by a brand spanking New hospital on an adjacent site. The old one was actually flattened and flats built on it which I believe is part used as staff accommodation. Now if someone was to say to me the new hospital is actually an old hospital because there was one already there, I would recommend them to see one of the doctors because they had a screw loose.!" The best bit is that the old one isnt even going to be flattened they are retaining parts of it. ![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Even by Lionels usual standards this really is being thick. A few years back our local hospital was replaced by a brand spanking New hospital on an adjacent site. The old one was actually flattened and flats built on it which I believe is part used as staff accommodation. Now if someone was to say to me the new hospital is actually an old hospital because there was one already there, I would recommend them to see one of the doctors because they had a screw loose.!" Hmmm..no one in.the entire thread has said anything about it being an old hospital..so you are into something there. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Even by Lionels usual standards this really is being thick. A few years back our local hospital was replaced by a brand spanking New hospital on an adjacent site. The old one was actually flattened and flats built on it which I believe is part used as staff accommodation. Now if someone was to say to me the new hospital is actually an old hospital because there was one already there, I would recommend them to see one of the doctors because they had a screw loose.!The best bit is that the old one isnt even going to be flattened they are retaining parts of it. ![]() It's an amazing idea - only been done a billion times already however - to build a new hospital on a site next to and then calling it NEW? Clever thinking that. ![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"This is actually bizarre If a city has one Asda, and they decide to update the shop,maybe build a bigger building That is not a new asda and the city has the Same number of asdas it hasld before. Quite why this is such a difficult concept to grasp is astonishing. " You are constantly and wilfully missing the word NEW BUILDING, however. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"So new always means additional, does it? Like those thousands of "new" nursing jobs, when thousands more are leaving..." In tory world it does ![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"So new always means additional, does it? Like those thousands of "new" nursing jobs, when thousands more are leaving... In tory world it does ![]() Ha, at what point do these ‘new’ hospitals that are being built to replace existing hospitals become old hospitals? 5 years? 10 years? | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
""Purchase of Hardwick Manor and grounds West Suffolk NHS Foundation Trust is pleased to confirm that it has completed the purchase of Hardwick Manor. The home and its surrounding grounds are among four sites currently being considered as potential future locations for a ************new West Suffolk Hospital.**************** The existing hospital buildings on Hardwick Lane were built in 1974 and have already long exceeded their intended 30-year life span. We have invested heavily in their upkeep over recent years, but the time will soon come when they are no longer fit for purpose. Accordingly, the trust was recently confirmed as one of 40 across the country to receive funding for new build projects from the Government’s Health Infrastructure Programme. Trust chief executive Dr Stephen Dunn said: "It is well known that our hospital was among thousands of buildings constructed in the 1970s using reinforced autoclaved aerated concrete planks. "As a result, we have had to carry out an extensive programme of inspections and running repairs at our current site to ensure the safety of patients and staff. "We have been open and transparent about the structural challenges our current site poses, and our desire to move to a new, purpose-built location as soon as possible". " You realise no one Is disputing a new building is being built? For the last time..a hospital is being built to replace the old one,the area will have exactly the same number of hospitals as it had before. Therefore the argument that 40(ha)new hospitals are built Is false. Hence the fact check. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"https://fullfact.org/health/six-hospitals-not-forty/" Again: The whole Page reads: From Full-Fact. In addition, go get the list from asset publishing. What was claimed: The government is only reconfiguring six new hospitals rather than building 40. Our verdict: In its latest announcement the government has committed the money to upgrade six hospitals by 2025. Up to 38 other hospitals have received money to plan for building work between 2025 and 2030, but not to actually begin any work. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"https://fullfact.org/health/six-hospitals-not-forty/ Six not forty ![]() Non story apparently | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"https://fullfact.org/health/six-hospitals-not-forty/ Six not forty ![]() Yeah, nothing to see here, just more Tory lies | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Dear Lionel and Fabtastic, Chill.... You taught me there is no point arguing with them, but you don't seem to have accepted it yourselves. Breathe. Breathe. Emigrate." ![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Dear Lionel and Fabtastic, Chill.... You taught me there is no point arguing with them, but you don't seem to have accepted it yourselves. Breathe. Breathe. Emigrate." Their problem isn't arguing, it's not seeing the facts when they are there right in front of their eyes. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Dear Lionel and Fabtastic, Chill.... You taught me there is no point arguing with them, but you don't seem to have accepted it yourselves. Breathe. Breathe. Emigrate." ![]() ![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Oh Dear. But nobody says that he was building 41 hospitals did they? He said building 40 new hospitals. There really isn't space or need around the country for 40 new hospitals on top of those we already have. But Old Hospitals rebuilt are NEW hospitals. With far more capacity and totally modernised for today's public needs in those areas. As has been pointed out above - they are still going to use parts of the old one. And everyone in the NHS locally and NHS Nationally and Government concerned (except you) says it's NEW. " ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"I put it to you Lionel & Fab. Jump on a train to Romford, walk into the Queens Hospital and ask any member of staff in there if it is a new hospital. Yes there was a hospital there before. Yes The Queens replaced that old hospital. But I have no doubt that all the staff and even the patients will say The Queens is a new hospital. " If there was 1 asda in romford and they announced in 6 months time, they will be building a new asda,how many asdas will there be? It's a simple question. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"I put it to you Lionel & Fab. Jump on a train to Romford, walk into the Queens Hospital and ask any member of staff in there if it is a new hospital. Yes there was a hospital there before. Yes The Queens replaced that old hospital. But I have no doubt that all the staff and even the patients will say The Queens is a new hospital. If there was 1 asda in romford and they announced in 6 months time, they will be building a new asda,how many asdas will there be? It's a simple question." 1 NEW Asda and the old one. If someone asked me which Asda I'm going to in Romford I would answer either the NEW one or the old one. Here's a good point, the NEW hospital in Romford was built under Labours NHS (Private Finance) Act 1997 and opened in 2006. Because of the repayments they have to make the hospital has been up to £50M in debt. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"I put it to you Lionel & Fab. Jump on a train to Romford, walk into the Queens Hospital and ask any member of staff in there if it is a new hospital. Yes there was a hospital there before. Yes The Queens replaced that old hospital. But I have no doubt that all the staff and even the patients will say The Queens is a new hospital. If there was 1 asda in romford and they announced in 6 months time, they will be building a new asda,how many asdas will there be? It's a simple question. 1 NEW Asda and the old one. If someone asked me which Asda I'm going to in Romford I would answer either the NEW one or the old one. Here's a good point, the NEW hospital in Romford was built under Labours NHS (Private Finance) Act 1997 and opened in 2006. Because of the repayments they have to make the hospital has been up to £50M in debt. " Right Yet In the case of the hospitals..there will be just 1. Can you see the difference now? | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"If the Government knock down 40 old hospitals and build 40 new Hospitals - How many new hospitals do you have?" How about this one: You have x hospitals, and a politician says "We are providing funding for 40 new hospitals". a) How many hospitals is the politician seeking to convince the electorate there will be once the funding has been spent? i) x ii) x + y where y 0 and y = 40 iii) x + 40 b) How many does the politician think there will be at the same point in the future? i) x ii) x + y where y 0 and y = 40 iii) x + 40 iv) Hasn't even given it a thought, it's just a game c) Does your answer change if you substitute "a politician" with "Boris Johnson"? "Caroline Lucas"? d) (For Boris fanbois only) Why do you think this is acceptable? | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"If the Government knock down 40 old hospitals and build 40 new Hospitals - How many new hospitals do you have? " please miss is it 40 ![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
![]() ![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"This is absolutely nuts ![]() ![]() That is true , however New jobs New housing New nurses New Police New Schools Does that mean additional or just replacing the old? | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"If the Government knock down 40 old hospitals and build 40 new Hospitals - How many new hospitals do you have? please miss is it 40 ![]() Gold Star Sweetie. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"This is absolutely nuts ![]() ![]() New means new. Its very simple. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"This is absolutely nuts ![]() ![]() I'm done...its absolutely insane ![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"This is absolutely nuts ![]() ![]() Oh they see it. But I think no matter how embarrassing it is for them now they just have to push ahead with it. A bit like your son saying he didn't just do what clearly he just did. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"T I'm done...its absolutely insane ![]() We wish!!! | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"This is absolutely nuts ![]() ![]() ![]() New is new, apparently , who knew ![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"This is absolutely nuts ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I just cant be arsed Its bizarre. Even for here. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"This is absolutely nuts ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() It has certainly made me laugh, ![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
" New is new, apparently , who knew ![]() Well clearly you both didn't. Embarrassing. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"This is absolutely nuts ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Alex..grass isnt green Fan club..no actually its really not green. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"This is absolutely nuts ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I have to be sceptical now when reading about these ‘new’ job announcements, are they additional or are they just replacing old jobs, new is new, apparently ![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"This is absolutely nuts ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() you seem to be getting it now well done you. ![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"This is absolutely nuts ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Indeed New police New nurses New housing New schools New teachers None of them are additional, they are just replacing the old with the new. Got it now ![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"This is absolutely nuts ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Well done you yet again. ![]() ![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"This is absolutely nuts ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Sensible debate? ![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"This is absolutely nuts ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Funny i had a feeling you would find that strange its all "just banter" to you isn't it? | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"This is absolutely nuts ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() At least your not questioning my mental health today, so that’s a good sign . | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"This is absolutely nuts ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() no i wont do that "on here" again ![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"This is absolutely nuts ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Good, I am glad you are learning , mental health is the biggest killer of young men in the UK, it’s nothing to joke about | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"This is absolutely nuts ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() i know its not, it doesnt stop people being concerned though. ![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"This is absolutely nuts ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Of course, ![]() | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
Post new Message to Thread |
back to top | ![]() |