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Macron says EU needs to centralise

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By *uliaChris OP   Couple
over a year ago

westerham

The thrilling future of Europe conference has commenced. Macron says the answer to bureaucratic centralised slow decision making is.... more centralisation. Thank God we are out of the rubbish:

“Speaking from a TV studio set up in the middle of the hemicircle of the European parliament in Strasbourg, the French president said he hoped the Future of Europe conference, a rolling series of events and online public opinion surveys, would strengthen EU level decision-making.

Macron avoided mentioning treaty change to shift competences to EU institutions from national governments, something vehemently opposed by a large number of member state governments who might be forced to trigger referendums in response.

He instead spoke in broad terms of the difficulties experienced during the pandemic in coordinating efforts due to a lack of central powers in the field of health and the problem of decision-making being “strangled in our procedures”. The most common form of EU decision-making, including in foreign policy, is done by a “qualified majority” of support among the 27 member states.”

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

The way they have been going im even more convinced that leaving was the right thing to do.

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By *ausageNmashCouple
over a year ago

Andover


"The way they have been going im even more convinced that leaving was the right thing to do."

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By *coptoCouple
over a year ago

Côte d'Azur & Great Yarmouth

"... im even more convinced that leaving was the right thing to do"

Perhaps the right thing to do was to have stayed and instigated change?

But "would've, should've, could've" is all rather academic, BREXIT is now done and dusted.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

instigated change pmsl

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By *losguygl3Man
over a year ago

Gloucester

Missed opportunity whilst we were in. Could have been driving members of centralisation and standardisation.

Pushed for a more Federalised system. We should be looking to dump all the 19th century Nationalistic bollox to progress equality.

Hey ho. Back to petty kingdoms squabbling over who controls each little irrelevant patch of mud.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Missed opportunity whilst we were in. Could have been driving members of centralisation and standardisation.

Pushed for a more Federalised system. We should be looking to dump all the 19th century Nationalistic bollox to progress equality.

Hey ho. Back to petty kingdoms squabbling over who controls each little irrelevant patch of mud."
What though our mep,s? they had about as much clout as our house of lords, its the presidents and commissions that make the rules and they just sign off on their masters bidding.

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

So what macron wants is quicker decisions in the eu, now even leavers would welcome that, the problem is what he is really saying is we take too long discussing things and getting consensus what we really need is for the french and germans to decide what the rest do.

AKA united states of europe with the big boys in charge

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"The way they have been going im even more convinced that leaving was the right thing to do."

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By *ingdong11Man
over a year ago

emsworth


"So what macron wants is quicker decisions in the eu, now even leavers would welcome that, the problem is what he is really saying is we take too long discussing things and getting consensus what we really need is for the french and germans to decide what the rest do.

AKA united states of europe with the big boys in charge"

Exactly !

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By *ausageNmashCouple
over a year ago

Andover

Talk of military uprising ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Macron is a knob cluthing at straws as his power and control ebbs away together with his previous popularity. His people have seen through him.

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By *losguygl3Man
over a year ago

Gloucester


"Missed opportunity whilst we were in. Could have been driving members of centralisation and standardisation.

Pushed for a more Federalised system. We should be looking to dump all the 19th century Nationalistic bollox to progress equality.

Hey ho. Back to petty kingdoms squabbling over who controls each little irrelevant patch of mud.What though our mep,s? they had about as much clout as our house of lords, its the presidents and commissions that make the rules and they just sign off on their masters bidding."

No using the real power in the EU, the Council of Ministers.

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By *losguygl3Man
over a year ago

Gloucester


"So what macron wants is quicker decisions in the eu, now even leavers would welcome that, the problem is what he is really saying is we take too long discussing things and getting consensus what we really need is for the french and germans to decide what the rest do.

AKA united states of europe with the big boys in charge"

The US of E is of course the first stepping stone to replacing the archaic nation system we are stuck in. But that is a ways off yet. Still too many parochial people fussing about tribes.

That anchor needs to be cast off so we can progress.

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By *entlemanrogueMan
over a year ago

Motherwell


""... im even more convinced that leaving was the right thing to do"

Perhaps the right thing to do was to have stayed and instigated change?

But "would've, should've, could've" is all rather academic, BREXIT is now done and dusted."

Brexot may be done, but the repercussions mean t wilm be a looooong time before the dust swttles, never mind being dusted.

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"So what macron wants is quicker decisions in the eu, now even leavers would welcome that, the problem is what he is really saying is we take too long discussing things and getting consensus what we really need is for the french and germans to decide what the rest do.

AKA united states of europe with the big boys in charge

The US of E is of course the first stepping stone to replacing the archaic nation system we are stuck in. But that is a ways off yet. Still too many parochial people fussing about tribes.

That anchor needs to be cast off so we can progress."

IF that is what the majority want and every nation gets a vote on it and that's the result then fine crack on. However if its drip drip by stealth to achieve it which is what is happening then it's not ok at all. Guess you dont think the Scottish should go independent then ?

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By *losguygl3Man
over a year ago

Gloucester


"So what macron wants is quicker decisions in the eu, now even leavers would welcome that, the problem is what he is really saying is we take too long discussing things and getting consensus what we really need is for the french and germans to decide what the rest do.

AKA united states of europe with the big boys in charge

The US of E is of course the first stepping stone to replacing the archaic nation system we are stuck in. But that is a ways off yet. Still too many parochial people fussing about tribes.

That anchor needs to be cast off so we can progress.

IF that is what the majority want and every nation gets a vote on it and that's the result then fine crack on. However if its drip drip by stealth to achieve it which is what is happening then it's not ok at all. Guess you dont think the Scottish should go independent then ?"

Actually I think they probably should as it is in their best interests at this time. At least they will have a chance at getting back in to the EU with all the financial, social and political benefits that brings.

And if the EU does formalise as a political union they will have to make a choice then.

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