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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
"No surprise there in fact I would be shocked if this were not the case. Every advanced nation whose economy was hit by Covid will have a quick recovery given how hard they were impacted. The more I interesting figure is going to be which countries recover quickest across Europe. The UK and countries in the EU have all been impacted by Brexit and Covid-19. Time will tell us how well things were handled when we see how and who comes out of this first. | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
"I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions "Isn't that kinda the same as in the 'bodies piled high in the thousands' thread? You just believe that story with no evidence but this one needs irrefutable evidence.  | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
Isn't that kinda the same as in the 'bodies piled high in the thousands' thread? You just believe that story with no evidence but this one needs irrefutable evidence. "That is exactly my point, let’s stick to facts rather than forecasts, guesses, opinions etc then we are all on the same page  | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
Isn't that kinda the same as in the 'bodies piled high in the thousands' thread? You just believe that story with no evidence but this one needs irrefutable evidence. "Are you new round here Keeley? Thats kinda how it works | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
Isn't that kinda the same as in the 'bodies piled high in the thousands' thread? You just believe that story with no evidence but this one needs irrefutable evidence.
Are you new round here Keeley? Thats kinda how it works "I thought you only wanted to deal with facts, not other people’s opinion | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
Isn't that kinda the same as in the 'bodies piled high in the thousands' thread? You just believe that story with no evidence but this one needs irrefutable evidence.
That is exactly my point, let’s stick to facts rather than forecasts, guesses, opinions etc then we are all on the same page "You should try doing that yourself then. | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions "Yet you believed the forecast of doom and gloom before brexit | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
Isn't that kinda the same as in the 'bodies piled high in the thousands' thread? You just believe that story with no evidence but this one needs irrefutable evidence.
Are you new round here Keeley? Thats kinda how it works "I've been around for years, I just tend to avoid the politics forum because of all the knobjockeys that lurk here | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
Isn't that kinda the same as in the 'bodies piled high in the thousands' thread? You just believe that story with no evidence but this one needs irrefutable evidence.
Are you new round here Keeley? Thats kinda how it works
I thought you only wanted to deal with facts, not other people’s opinion "What Keeley said was fact. How many times do I have to tell you to stop trying to play with the older kids | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
Isn't that kinda the same as in the 'bodies piled high in the thousands' thread? You just believe that story with no evidence but this one needs irrefutable evidence.
Are you new round here Keeley? Thats kinda how it works
I've been around for years, I just tend to avoid the politics forum because of all the knobjockeys that lurk here "Name calling? | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
Isn't that kinda the same as in the 'bodies piled high in the thousands' thread? You just believe that story with no evidence but this one needs irrefutable evidence.
Are you new round here Keeley? Thats kinda how it works
I've been around for years, I just tend to avoid the politics forum because of all the knobjockeys that lurk here "That's the only reason I come into the politics forum | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
Isn't that kinda the same as in the 'bodies piled high in the thousands' thread? You just believe that story with no evidence but this one needs irrefutable evidence.
Are you new round here Keeley? Thats kinda how it works
I've been around for years, I just tend to avoid the politics forum because of all the knobjockeys that lurk here
Name calling? "What? That was a general comment, you should get a thicker skin if you think it's about you. | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
Yet you believed the forecast of doom and gloom before brexit " | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
"Given that we're coming out of restrictions and forecast not to be locking down again then it's totally understandable. | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
Isn't that kinda the same as in the 'bodies piled high in the thousands' thread? You just believe that story with no evidence but this one needs irrefutable evidence.
That is exactly my point, let’s stick to facts rather than forecasts, guesses, opinions etc then we are all on the same page
You should try doing that yourself then. "I have refuted my spurious claim about Boris, I apologise for any hurt it may have caused, let’s get back to talking about facts | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
Isn't that kinda the same as in the 'bodies piled high in the thousands' thread? You just believe that story with no evidence but this one needs irrefutable evidence.
That is exactly my point, let’s stick to facts rather than forecasts, guesses, opinions etc then we are all on the same page
You should try doing that yourself then.
I have refuted my spurious claim about Boris, I apologise for any hurt it may have caused, let’s get back to talking about facts "Thankyou, that wasn't too hard was it?  | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
Yet you believed the forecast of doom and gloom before brexit "Did I? Where is your proof, that is just your opinion | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery." "Forecasts, guess work, opinions . | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
Isn't that kinda the same as in the 'bodies piled high in the thousands' thread? You just believe that story with no evidence but this one needs irrefutable evidence.
That is exactly my point, let’s stick to facts rather than forecasts, guesses, opinions etc then we are all on the same page "I agree forcasts mean nothing it is all you remoaners have ever used stick to the facts | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
Isn't that kinda the same as in the 'bodies piled high in the thousands' thread? You just believe that story with no evidence but this one needs irrefutable evidence.
That is exactly my point, let’s stick to facts rather than forecasts, guesses, opinions etc then we are all on the same page I agree forcasts mean nothing it is all you remoaners have ever used stick to the facts"Bloody hell, Emma is supporting me, thanks | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
Forecasts, guess work, opinions . "So you have said: So now please STOP trashing my posts. _____________________________ "https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery." _______________________________ | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
Isn't that kinda the same as in the 'bodies piled high in the thousands' thread? You just believe that story with no evidence but this one needs irrefutable evidence.
Are you new round here Keeley? Thats kinda how it works
I've been around for years, I just tend to avoid the politics forum because of all the knobjockeys that lurk here "Oi I resemble that comment. | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
Isn't that kinda the same as in the 'bodies piled high in the thousands' thread? You just believe that story with no evidence but this one needs irrefutable evidence.
Are you new round here Keeley? Thats kinda how it works
I've been around for years, I just tend to avoid the politics forum because of all the knobjockeys that lurk here
Oi I resemble that comment. " | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions "I camt keep up. Stories about Johnson by the natinal broadcaster are nonsense. Why yet another claim by sky that there is going to be a boom are gospel Weird | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
I camt keep up.
Stories about Johnson by the natinal broadcaster are nonsense.
Why yet another claim by sky that there is going to be a boom are gospel
Weird
"Bloomberg’s forecasted that Brexit will cost the UK $170 billion and counting, obviously we aren’t allowed under the new ‘it has to be facts on here’ rule | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
I camt keep up.
Stories about Johnson by the natinal broadcaster are nonsense.
Why yet another claim by sky that there is going to be a boom are gospel
Weird
Bloomberg’s forecasted that Brexit will cost the UK $170 billion and counting, obviously we aren’t allowed under the new ‘it has to be facts on here’ rule "Is that trade with the EU? | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
I camt keep up.
Stories about Johnson by the natinal broadcaster are nonsense.
Why yet another claim by sky that there is going to be a boom are gospel
Weird
Bloomberg’s forecasted that Brexit will cost the UK $170 billion and counting, obviously we aren’t allowed under the new ‘it has to be facts on here’ rule
Is that trade with the EU? "It is a number of factors, Bloomberg’s are experts but unfortunately the figures are forecasts etc | |||
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"just watching the local evening news and the bounce back seems to have started going by what local businesses are saying on there. " Ain't that a fact. There are lots of true fact stories from all over the country about business rapidly recovering from the mouths of the business folks themselves. | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
I camt keep up.
Stories about Johnson by the natinal broadcaster are nonsense.
Why yet another claim by sky that there is going to be a boom are gospel
Weird
Bloomberg’s forecasted that Brexit will cost the UK $170 billion and counting, obviously we aren’t allowed under the new ‘it has to be facts on here’ rule
Is that trade with the EU?
It is a number of factors, Bloomberg’s are experts but unfortunately the figures are forecasts etc "I have to rely on weather forecasts, but they keep changing. I tend to look out the window. | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
I camt keep up.
Stories about Johnson by the natinal broadcaster are nonsense.
Why yet another claim by sky that there is going to be a boom are gospel
Weird
Bloomberg’s forecasted that Brexit will cost the UK $170 billion and counting, obviously we aren’t allowed under the new ‘it has to be facts on here’ rule
Is that trade with the EU?
It is a number of factors, Bloomberg’s are experts but unfortunately the figures are forecasts etc
I have to rely on weather forecasts, but they keep changing. I tend to look out the window. "Or listen to real business people telling you that business is recovering better than expected. | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
Forecasts, guess work, opinions . "is t that just the future tho forecasts guess work opinions lol | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
I camt keep up.
Stories about Johnson by the natinal broadcaster are nonsense.
Why yet another claim by sky that there is going to be a boom are gospel
Weird
Bloomberg’s forecasted that Brexit will cost the UK $170 billion and counting, obviously we aren’t allowed under the new ‘it has to be facts on here’ rule
Is that trade with the EU?
It is a number of factors, Bloomberg’s are experts but unfortunately the figures are forecasts etc
I have to rely on weather forecasts, but they keep changing. I tend to look out the window.
Or listen to real business people telling you that business is recovering better than expected."Do you mean people like Bloomberg’s ? | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
"With the FTSE 250 at an all time high and above pre Covid levels the future is looking bright . The FTSE 250 is a live real time indicator of the investment interest in a significant number of British Companies. When we combine this performance with the forecasts referred to by the original poster it looks like full steam ahead. Project fear is now simply a ship drifting in the ocean. It is onwards and upwards for the both the UK and its economy. | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
With the FTSE 250 at an all time high and above pre Covid levels the future is looking bright . The FTSE 250 is a live real time indicator of the investment interest in a significant number of British Companies.
When we combine this performance with the forecasts referred to by the original poster it looks like full steam ahead.
Project fear is now simply a ship drifting in the ocean.
It is onwards and upwards for the both the UK and its economy.
"But somehow you just can't get the miserabilists on board. It seems that they would rather trash everything in the UK and have it fail rather than support and be glad for positive growth.  | |||
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"If people think that people like Goldman Sachs just look out of the window and see a queue at Primark across the road and say hey we forecast business must up then they really need to get back to school and do Economics again. Business forecasting is taken from REAL weekly and monthly and quarterly market data. Factual REAL market data." You are wasting your time cat some people are not happy unless their lives are full of doom and gloom and don't want to hear of any positive news. | |||
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"If people think that people like Goldman Sachs just look out of the window and see a queue at Primark across the road and say hey we forecast business must up then they really need to get back to school and do Economics again. Business forecasting is taken from REAL weekly and monthly and quarterly market data. Factual REAL market data. You are wasting your time cat some people are not happy unless their lives are full of doom and gloom and don't want to hear of any positive news. " I know Costa. I need to learn that lesson lol. As my Mme' used to say: "If you are going to have a scowl on your face, makes sure that it's a happy one." | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
I camt keep up.
Stories about Johnson by the natinal broadcaster are nonsense.
Why yet another claim by sky that there is going to be a boom are gospel
Weird
Bloomberg’s forecasted that Brexit will cost the UK $170 billion and counting, obviously we aren’t allowed under the new ‘it has to be facts on here’ rule
Is that trade with the EU?
It is a number of factors, Bloomberg’s are experts but unfortunately the figures are forecasts etc
I have to rely on weather forecasts, but they keep changing. I tend to look out the window.
Or listen to real business people telling you that business is recovering better than expected."I've tried telling people on here before that Brexit for example hasn't affected my business and we import from the EU two or three times a week. Other than the effects of the lockdowns, covid hasn't either on supplies. The only problem we had was when France shut the borders before Christmas, which was a worry. Still think that was ulterior motives. But to say no affect on business gets ignored. | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
I camt keep up.
Stories about Johnson by the natinal broadcaster are nonsense.
Why yet another claim by sky that there is going to be a boom are gospel
Weird
Bloomberg’s forecasted that Brexit will cost the UK $170 billion and counting, obviously we aren’t allowed under the new ‘it has to be facts on here’ rule
Is that trade with the EU?
It is a number of factors, Bloomberg’s are experts but unfortunately the figures are forecasts etc
I have to rely on weather forecasts, but they keep changing. I tend to look out the window.
Or listen to real business people telling you that business is recovering better than expected.
I've tried telling people on here before that Brexit for example hasn't affected my business and we import from the EU two or three times a week. Other than the effects of the lockdowns, covid hasn't either on supplies. The only problem we had was when France shut the borders before Christmas, which was a worry. Still think that was ulterior motives. But to say no affect on business gets ignored." | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
With the FTSE 250 at an all time high and above pre Covid levels the future is looking bright . The FTSE 250 is a live real time indicator of the investment interest in a significant number of British Companies.
When we combine this performance with the forecasts referred to by the original poster it looks like full steam ahead.
Project fear is now simply a ship drifting in the ocean.
It is onwards and upwards for the both the UK and its economy.
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
I camt keep up.
Stories about Johnson by the natinal broadcaster are nonsense.
Why yet another claim by sky that there is going to be a boom are gospel
Weird
Bloomberg’s forecasted that Brexit will cost the UK $170 billion and counting, obviously we aren’t allowed under the new ‘it has to be facts on here’ rule
Is that trade with the EU?
It is a number of factors, Bloomberg’s are experts but unfortunately the figures are forecasts etc
I have to rely on weather forecasts, but they keep changing. I tend to look out the window.
Or listen to real business people telling you that business is recovering better than expected.
I've tried telling people on here before that Brexit for example hasn't affected my business and we import from the EU two or three times a week. Other than the effects of the lockdowns, covid hasn't either on supplies. The only problem we had was when France shut the borders before Christmas, which was a worry. Still think that was ulterior motives. But to say no affect on business gets ignored."Imports are not stopped or checked as HMRC have postponed checks until 2022 . They don’t have the infrastructure or staff to implement the rules we supposedly now have. But Gove says they are ready! | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
With the FTSE 250 at an all time high and above pre Covid levels the future is looking bright . The FTSE 250 is a live real time indicator of the investment interest in a significant number of British Companies.
When we combine this performance with the forecasts referred to by the original poster it looks like full steam ahead.
Project fear is now simply a ship drifting in the ocean.
It is onwards and upwards for the both the UK and its economy.
"The FTSE 250 has a strong focus on U.K. based and trading companies which will benefit most from Covid bounce back. Our major global companies who generate considerably more international trade which is the FTSE 100 hasn’t reached any records for nearly 4 years now. For comparison the total value of the FTSE 250 is £394B Just the top 3 companies alone in the FTSE 100 combined are worth more than that. The 100 index has a value of £1.5 Trillion. | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
I camt keep up.
Stories about Johnson by the natinal broadcaster are nonsense.
Why yet another claim by sky that there is going to be a boom are gospel
Weird
Bloomberg’s forecasted that Brexit will cost the UK $170 billion and counting, obviously we aren’t allowed under the new ‘it has to be facts on here’ rule
Is that trade with the EU?
It is a number of factors, Bloomberg’s are experts but unfortunately the figures are forecasts etc
I have to rely on weather forecasts, but they keep changing. I tend to look out the window.
Or listen to real business people telling you that business is recovering better than expected.
I've tried telling people on here before that Brexit for example hasn't affected my business and we import from the EU two or three times a week. Other than the effects of the lockdowns, covid hasn't either on supplies. The only problem we had was when France shut the borders before Christmas, which was a worry. Still think that was ulterior motives. But to say no affect on business gets ignored.
Imports are not stopped or checked as HMRC have postponed checks until 2022 . They don’t have the infrastructure or staff to implement the rules we supposedly now have. But Gove says they are ready! "That's not quite true. We had a shipment a few weeks ago that was stopped and checked. All to the good, I say! | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
I camt keep up.
Stories about Johnson by the natinal broadcaster are nonsense.
Why yet another claim by sky that there is going to be a boom are gospel
Weird
Bloomberg’s forecasted that Brexit will cost the UK $170 billion and counting, obviously we aren’t allowed under the new ‘it has to be facts on here’ rule
Is that trade with the EU?
It is a number of factors, Bloomberg’s are experts but unfortunately the figures are forecasts etc
I have to rely on weather forecasts, but they keep changing. I tend to look out the window.
Or listen to real business people telling you that business is recovering better than expected.
I've tried telling people on here before that Brexit for example hasn't affected my business and we import from the EU two or three times a week. Other than the effects of the lockdowns, covid hasn't either on supplies. The only problem we had was when France shut the borders before Christmas, which was a worry. Still think that was ulterior motives. But to say no affect on business gets ignored.
Imports are not stopped or checked as HMRC have postponed checks until 2022 . They don’t have the infrastructure or staff to implement the rules we supposedly now have. But Gove says they are ready!
That's not quite true. We had a shipment a few weeks ago that was stopped and checked. All to the good, I say! "Stopped in which port as we have numerous loads a week into Dover, Felixstowe , Immingham and non have been stopped so far? Maybe it was a Covid check? | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
I camt keep up.
Stories about Johnson by the natinal broadcaster are nonsense.
Why yet another claim by sky that there is going to be a boom are gospel
Weird
Bloomberg’s forecasted that Brexit will cost the UK $170 billion and counting, obviously we aren’t allowed under the new ‘it has to be facts on here’ rule
Is that trade with the EU?
It is a number of factors, Bloomberg’s are experts but unfortunately the figures are forecasts etc
I have to rely on weather forecasts, but they keep changing. I tend to look out the window.
Or listen to real business people telling you that business is recovering better than expected.
I've tried telling people on here before that Brexit for example hasn't affected my business and we import from the EU two or three times a week. Other than the effects of the lockdowns, covid hasn't either on supplies. The only problem we had was when France shut the borders before Christmas, which was a worry. Still think that was ulterior motives. But to say no affect on business gets ignored.
Imports are not stopped or checked as HMRC have postponed checks until 2022 . They don’t have the infrastructure or staff to implement the rules we supposedly now have. But Gove says they are ready!
That's not quite true. We had a shipment a few weeks ago that was stopped and checked. All to the good, I say!
Stopped in which port as we have numerous loads a week into Dover, Felixstowe , Immingham and non have been stopped so far? Maybe it was a Covid check? "Funnily enough the driver said it was checked both sides of the tunnel. Everything removed and checked against inventory. That was the week of the lockdown lifting. | |||
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"If people think that people like Goldman Sachs just look out of the window and see a queue at Primark across the road and say hey we forecast business must up then they really need to get back to school and do Economics again. Business forecasting is taken from REAL weekly and monthly and quarterly market data. Factual REAL market data. You are wasting your time cat some people are not happy unless their lives are full of doom and gloom and don't want to hear of any positive news. " | |||
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"If people think that people like Goldman Sachs just look out of the window and see a queue at Primark across the road and say hey we forecast business must up then they really need to get back to school and do Economics again. Business forecasting is taken from REAL weekly and monthly and quarterly market data. Factual REAL market data. You are wasting your time cat some people are not happy unless their lives are full of doom and gloom and don't want to hear of any positive news. "5 thumbs this time? | |||
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"We have been through this before. Big fall = big bounce back. I suppose it is like getting excited at a 60% bounce back after a 50% fall. Some people just don't do maths." And? I think we already know. The story is that it's happening - not it's likely to happen, or perhaps it will happen. | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
I camt keep up.
Stories about Johnson by the natinal broadcaster are nonsense.
Why yet another claim by sky that there is going to be a boom are gospel
Weird
Bloomberg’s forecasted that Brexit will cost the UK $170 billion and counting, obviously we aren’t allowed under the new ‘it has to be facts on here’ rule
Is that trade with the EU?
It is a number of factors, Bloomberg’s are experts but unfortunately the figures are forecasts etc
I have to rely on weather forecasts, but they keep changing. I tend to look out the window.
Or listen to real business people telling you that business is recovering better than expected.
I've tried telling people on here before that Brexit for example hasn't affected my business and we import from the EU two or three times a week. Other than the effects of the lockdowns, covid hasn't either on supplies. The only problem we had was when France shut the borders before Christmas, which was a worry. Still think that was ulterior motives. But to say no affect on business gets ignored.
Imports are not stopped or checked as HMRC have postponed checks until 2022 . They don’t have the infrastructure or staff to implement the rules we supposedly now have. But Gove says they are ready!
That's not quite true. We had a shipment a few weeks ago that was stopped and checked. All to the good, I say!
Stopped in which port as we have numerous loads a week into Dover, Felixstowe , Immingham and non have been stopped so far? Maybe it was a Covid check?
Funnily enough the driver said it was checked both sides of the tunnel. Everything removed and checked against inventory. That was the week of the lockdown lifting."So a random check nothing to do with the usual customs. | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
I camt keep up.
Stories about Johnson by the natinal broadcaster are nonsense.
Why yet another claim by sky that there is going to be a boom are gospel
Weird
Bloomberg’s forecasted that Brexit will cost the UK $170 billion and counting, obviously we aren’t allowed under the new ‘it has to be facts on here’ rule
Is that trade with the EU?
It is a number of factors, Bloomberg’s are experts but unfortunately the figures are forecasts etc
I have to rely on weather forecasts, but they keep changing. I tend to look out the window.
Or listen to real business people telling you that business is recovering better than expected.
I've tried telling people on here before that Brexit for example hasn't affected my business and we import from the EU two or three times a week. Other than the effects of the lockdowns, covid hasn't either on supplies. The only problem we had was when France shut the borders before Christmas, which was a worry. Still think that was ulterior motives. But to say no affect on business gets ignored.
Imports are not stopped or checked as HMRC have postponed checks until 2022 . They don’t have the infrastructure or staff to implement the rules we supposedly now have. But Gove says they are ready!
That's not quite true. We had a shipment a few weeks ago that was stopped and checked. All to the good, I say!
Stopped in which port as we have numerous loads a week into Dover, Felixstowe , Immingham and non have been stopped so far? Maybe it was a Covid check? "I can assure you that the customs checks are going on as normal in the port of Felixstowe. | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
I camt keep up.
Stories about Johnson by the natinal broadcaster are nonsense.
Why yet another claim by sky that there is going to be a boom are gospel
Weird
Bloomberg’s forecasted that Brexit will cost the UK $170 billion and counting, obviously we aren’t allowed under the new ‘it has to be facts on here’ rule
Is that trade with the EU?
It is a number of factors, Bloomberg’s are experts but unfortunately the figures are forecasts etc
I have to rely on weather forecasts, but they keep changing. I tend to look out the window.
Or listen to real business people telling you that business is recovering better than expected.
I've tried telling people on here before that Brexit for example hasn't affected my business and we import from the EU two or three times a week. Other than the effects of the lockdowns, covid hasn't either on supplies. The only problem we had was when France shut the borders before Christmas, which was a worry. Still think that was ulterior motives. But to say no affect on business gets ignored.
Imports are not stopped or checked as HMRC have postponed checks until 2022 . They don’t have the infrastructure or staff to implement the rules we supposedly now have. But Gove says they are ready!
That's not quite true. We had a shipment a few weeks ago that was stopped and checked. All to the good, I say!
Stopped in which port as we have numerous loads a week into Dover, Felixstowe , Immingham and non have been stopped so far? Maybe it was a Covid check?
Funnily enough the driver said it was checked both sides of the tunnel. Everything removed and checked against inventory. That was the week of the lockdown lifting.
So a random check nothing to do with the usual customs. "Aren't random checks part of HMRC? Random or not it still happened. | |||
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"We have been through this before. Big fall = big bounce back. I suppose it is like getting excited at a 60% bounce back after a 50% fall. Some people just don't do maths." However if you do the analysis over 5 years the trend is upwards. As at 29 April 2016 the FTSE 250 was 16802.50 and today it is 22433.44. The short term movement to which you refer can simply be ignored as it was due to unprecedented circumstances. ( Covid 19 ) . The rise is 33 % over a five year period and looks set to be improving . Investor confidence in the UK is high . I cannot see too many investors such as pension funds or charities who are dependent on dividend income complaining about this performance. In addition to the capital returns referred to above they will also have received dividend income so the returns are even higher than stated. The returns are exactly what most people want , safe but steady. In the scenario to which you refer the only losers would be those who sold their investments in the time frame which you quote . Everyone one else is a winner. | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
I camt keep up.
Stories about Johnson by the natinal broadcaster are nonsense.
Why yet another claim by sky that there is going to be a boom are gospel
Weird
Bloomberg’s forecasted that Brexit will cost the UK $170 billion and counting, obviously we aren’t allowed under the new ‘it has to be facts on here’ rule
Is that trade with the EU?
It is a number of factors, Bloomberg’s are experts but unfortunately the figures are forecasts etc
I have to rely on weather forecasts, but they keep changing. I tend to look out the window.
Or listen to real business people telling you that business is recovering better than expected.
I've tried telling people on here before that Brexit for example hasn't affected my business and we import from the EU two or three times a week. Other than the effects of the lockdowns, covid hasn't either on supplies. The only problem we had was when France shut the borders before Christmas, which was a worry. Still think that was ulterior motives. But to say no affect on business gets ignored.
Imports are not stopped or checked as HMRC have postponed checks until 2022 . They don’t have the infrastructure or staff to implement the rules we supposedly now have. But Gove says they are ready!
That's not quite true. We had a shipment a few weeks ago that was stopped and checked. All to the good, I say!
Stopped in which port as we have numerous loads a week into Dover, Felixstowe , Immingham and non have been stopped so far? Maybe it was a Covid check?
Funnily enough the driver said it was checked both sides of the tunnel. Everything removed and checked against inventory. That was the week of the lockdown lifting.
So a random check nothing to do with the usual customs.
Aren't random checks part of HMRC? Random or not it still happened."One looking for vat and tax issues the other for drugs and smuggling . So different | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
I camt keep up.
Stories about Johnson by the natinal broadcaster are nonsense.
Why yet another claim by sky that there is going to be a boom are gospel
Weird
Bloomberg’s forecasted that Brexit will cost the UK $170 billion and counting, obviously we aren’t allowed under the new ‘it has to be facts on here’ rule
Is that trade with the EU?
It is a number of factors, Bloomberg’s are experts but unfortunately the figures are forecasts etc
I have to rely on weather forecasts, but they keep changing. I tend to look out the window.
Or listen to real business people telling you that business is recovering better than expected.
I've tried telling people on here before that Brexit for example hasn't affected my business and we import from the EU two or three times a week. Other than the effects of the lockdowns, covid hasn't either on supplies. The only problem we had was when France shut the borders before Christmas, which was a worry. Still think that was ulterior motives. But to say no affect on business gets ignored.
Imports are not stopped or checked as HMRC have postponed checks until 2022 . They don’t have the infrastructure or staff to implement the rules we supposedly now have. But Gove says they are ready!
That's not quite true. We had a shipment a few weeks ago that was stopped and checked. All to the good, I say!
Stopped in which port as we have numerous loads a week into Dover, Felixstowe , Immingham and non have been stopped so far? Maybe it was a Covid check? I can assure you that the customs checks are going on as normal in the port of Felixstowe. "Deep sea probably yes . We only export via Felixstowe so can’t claim facts on imports but can’t see them being different to the other ports. DFDS declining T1 business still due to delays at port which cause congestion. Cobelfret not interested in certain trades from Purfleet due to Brexit delays. This is first hand experience. | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-economy-forecast-to-see-strongest-annual-growth-since-1941-12287488 "Gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to expand by 6.8% this year, according to the EY ITEM Club - which would be the fastest pace since 1941. Another forecast, from Goldman Sachs, predicts a "striking" growth rate of 7.8%, stronger than its expectation for the US, where Joe Biden's multi-trillion dollar stimulus effort is firing up recovery."
I don’t take much notice of ‘forecasts’ come back when you get irrefutable evidence , you have just listed peoples opinions
I camt keep up.
Stories about Johnson by the natinal broadcaster are nonsense.
Why yet another claim by sky that there is going to be a boom are gospel
Weird
Bloomberg’s forecasted that Brexit will cost the UK $170 billion and counting, obviously we aren’t allowed under the new ‘it has to be facts on here’ rule
Is that trade with the EU?
It is a number of factors, Bloomberg’s are experts but unfortunately the figures are forecasts etc
I have to rely on weather forecasts, but they keep changing. I tend to look out the window.
Or listen to real business people telling you that business is recovering better than expected.
I've tried telling people on here before that Brexit for example hasn't affected my business and we import from the EU two or three times a week. Other than the effects of the lockdowns, covid hasn't either on supplies. The only problem we had was when France shut the borders before Christmas, which was a worry. Still think that was ulterior motives. But to say no affect on business gets ignored.
Imports are not stopped or checked as HMRC have postponed checks until 2022 . They don’t have the infrastructure or staff to implement the rules we supposedly now have. But Gove says they are ready!
That's not quite true. We had a shipment a few weeks ago that was stopped and checked. All to the good, I say!
Stopped in which port as we have numerous loads a week into Dover, Felixstowe , Immingham and non have been stopped so far? Maybe it was a Covid check?
Funnily enough the driver said it was checked both sides of the tunnel. Everything removed and checked against inventory. That was the week of the lockdown lifting.
So a random check nothing to do with the usual customs.
Aren't random checks part of HMRC? Random or not it still happened."Yes it’s like police stopping a driver with a light out but as he’s speaking to the driver 5k cars not taxed drive past ! | |||
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"We have been through this before. Big fall = big bounce back. I suppose it is like getting excited at a 60% bounce back after a 50% fall. Some people just don't do maths. However if you do the analysis over 5 years the trend is upwards. As at 29 April 2016 the FTSE 250 was 16802.50 and today it is 22433.44. The short term movement to which you refer can simply be ignored as it was due to unprecedented circumstances. ( Covid 19 ) . The rise is 33 % over a five year period and looks set to be improving . Investor confidence in the UK is high . I cannot see too many investors such as pension funds or charities who are dependent on dividend income complaining about this performance. In addition to the capital returns referred to above they will also have received dividend income so the returns are even higher than stated. The returns are exactly what most people want , safe but steady. In the scenario to which you refer the only losers would be those who sold their investments in the time frame which you quote . Everyone one else is a winner. " The shares are U.K. centric so as mentioned earlier account for U.K. companies who stand most to benefit from U.K. sales . They are less affected by Brexit. Again look at the FTSE 100 and no records set for years and that index is 5 times the size of the 250 and more relevant to international trade . | |||
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"We have been through this before. Big fall = big bounce back. I suppose it is like getting excited at a 60% bounce back after a 50% fall. Some people just don't do maths. However if you do the analysis over 5 years the trend is upwards. As at 29 April 2016 the FTSE 250 was 16802.50 and today it is 22433.44. The short term movement to which you refer can simply be ignored as it was due to unprecedented circumstances. ( Covid 19 ) . The rise is 33 % over a five year period and looks set to be improving . Investor confidence in the UK is high . I cannot see too many investors such as pension funds or charities who are dependent on dividend income complaining about this performance. In addition to the capital returns referred to above they will also have received dividend income so the returns are even higher than stated. The returns are exactly what most people want , safe but steady. In the scenario to which you refer the only losers would be those who sold their investments in the time frame which you quote . Everyone one else is a winner. The shares are U.K. centric so as mentioned earlier account for U.K. companies who stand most to benefit from U.K. sales . They are less affected by Brexit. Again look at the FTSE 100 and no records set for years and that index is 5 times the size of the 250 and more relevant to international trade . " . However you would expect growth to be a lot less in larger companies. On the 30 April 16 the FTSE100 was 6125 , as at close of businness today it was 6955. Considering the issues faced by the UK and the economy over the past five years this is a creditable performance . ( a rise of 17.5 % and if you factor in dividend income 31 % or circ 6 % per annum ). For steady safe investments I cannot see many people complaining about this. I do not see many companies complaining about Brexit when reporting results. They have simply adapted to changing times . | |||
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