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"Boris thinks there is a leak within Downing Street and someone has leaked the emails between him and James Dyson and made them public. Apparently he suspects that Dominic Cummings is responsible. There's no honour between thieves. " Boris is on borrowed time, there are obviously a lot of people who want him out , | |||
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"Boris thinks there is a leak within Downing Street and someone has leaked the emails between him and James Dyson and made them public. Apparently he suspects that Dominic Cummings is responsible. There's no honour between thieves. Boris is on borrowed time, there are obviously a lot of people who want him out ," Nonsense, he may go quite soon but that's because he needs the money from speeches and book deals. Nobody has the power to push him out. | |||
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"Cummings has many axes to grind and if it is him expect much more.. Think he's giving evidence next week at a parliamentary committee, interesting.." Cummings has allies within the Tory party they are plotting to get Boris removed, he will be gone this year, | |||
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"Boris thinks there is a leak within Downing Street and someone has leaked the emails between him and James Dyson and made them public. Apparently he suspects that Dominic Cummings is responsible. There's no honour between thieves. " Can you tell us what either Boris or Cummings has stolen ? | |||
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"Cummings has many axes to grind and if it is him expect much more.. Think he's giving evidence next week at a parliamentary committee, interesting.. Cummings has allies within the Tory party they are plotting to get Boris removed, he will be gone this year, " You said that last year.  | |||
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"Cummings has many axes to grind and if it is him expect much more.. Think he's giving evidence next week at a parliamentary committee, interesting.. Cummings has allies within the Tory party they are plotting to get Boris removed, he will be gone this year, You said that last year. "That’s correct, i said last year he would be gone in 2021 | |||
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"Cummings has many axes to grind and if it is him expect much more.. Think he's giving evidence next week at a parliamentary committee, interesting.. Cummings has allies within the Tory party they are plotting to get Boris removed, he will be gone this year, You said that last year.
That’s correct, i said last year he would be gone in 2021 "You said he would go as soon as brexit deal was done, 4 mo ths and counting, not sure why the tories would want him gone they are going well in the polls | |||
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"Cummings has many axes to grind and if it is him expect much more.. Think he's giving evidence next week at a parliamentary committee, interesting.. Cummings has allies within the Tory party they are plotting to get Boris removed, he will be gone this year, You said that last year.
That’s correct, i said last year he would be gone in 2021
You said he would go as soon as brexit deal was done, 4 mo ths and counting, not sure why the tories would want him gone they are going well in the polls"Do you have the proof? I said he will be gone in 2021, btw, is Brexit really done? | |||
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"Cummings has many axes to grind and if it is him expect much more.. Think he's giving evidence next week at a parliamentary committee, interesting.. Cummings has allies within the Tory party they are plotting to get Boris removed, he will be gone this year, You said that last year.
That’s correct, i said last year he would be gone in 2021
You said he would go as soon as brexit deal was done, 4 mo ths and counting, not sure why the tories would want him gone they are going well in the polls
Do you have the proof? I said he will be gone in 2021, btw, is Brexit really done? "That's what several posters remember you saying as do I but, regardless I dont see him being forced out and resigning at present isnt a good idea. Brexit is done sorry to inform you, there is no going back, things will evolve of course | |||
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"Cummings has many axes to grind and if it is him expect much more.. Think he's giving evidence next week at a parliamentary committee, interesting.. Cummings has allies within the Tory party they are plotting to get Boris removed, he will be gone this year, You said that last year.
That’s correct, i said last year he would be gone in 2021
You said he would go as soon as brexit deal was done, 4 mo ths and counting, not sure why the tories would want him gone they are going well in the polls
Do you have the proof? I said he will be gone in 2021, btw, is Brexit really done?
That's what several posters remember you saying as do I but, regardless I dont see him being forced out and resigning at present isnt a good idea. Brexit is done sorry to inform you, there is no going back, things will evolve of course "When you have found the proof then get back to me. I do hope Brexit is done and there are no more negotiations with the EU  | |||
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"Cummings has many axes to grind and if it is him expect much more.. Think he's giving evidence next week at a parliamentary committee, interesting.. Cummings has allies within the Tory party they are plotting to get Boris removed, he will be gone this year, You said that last year.
That’s correct, i said last year he would be gone in 2021
You said he would go as soon as brexit deal was done, 4 mo ths and counting, not sure why the tories would want him gone they are going well in the polls
Do you have the proof? I said he will be gone in 2021, btw, is Brexit really done? "Brexit is done the trade agreement isn't yet, it depends whether the eu parliment does its masters bidding and ratifies it on Tuesday which of course they will. | |||
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"Cummings has many axes to grind and if it is him expect much more.. Think he's giving evidence next week at a parliamentary committee, interesting.. Cummings has allies within the Tory party they are plotting to get Boris removed, he will be gone this year, You said that last year.
That’s correct, i said last year he would be gone in 2021
You said he would go as soon as brexit deal was done, 4 mo ths and counting, not sure why the tories would want him gone they are going well in the polls
Do you have the proof? I said he will be gone in 2021, btw, is Brexit really done? "Dont worry... you know I'm tracking this.
Your current prediction of "by end of 2021" is the most recent forecast, having previously been adjusted from "will be gone in 3 months"
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"Cummings has many axes to grind and if it is him expect much more.. Think he's giving evidence next week at a parliamentary committee, interesting.. Cummings has allies within the Tory party they are plotting to get Boris removed, he will be gone this year, You said that last year.
That’s correct, i said last year he would be gone in 2021
You said he would go as soon as brexit deal was done, 4 mo ths and counting, not sure why the tories would want him gone they are going well in the polls
Do you have the proof? I said he will be gone in 2021, btw, is Brexit really done?
Dont worry... you know I'm tracking this.
Your current prediction of "by end of 2021" is the most recent forecast, having previously been adjusted from "will be gone in 3 months"
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"Cummings has many axes to grind and if it is him expect much more.. Think he's giving evidence next week at a parliamentary committee, interesting.. Cummings has allies within the Tory party they are plotting to get Boris removed, he will be gone this year, You said that last year.
That’s correct, i said last year he would be gone in 2021
You said he would go as soon as brexit deal was done, 4 mo ths and counting, not sure why the tories would want him gone they are going well in the polls
Do you have the proof? I said he will be gone in 2021, btw, is Brexit really done? Brexit is done the trade agreement isn't yet, it depends whether the eu parliment does its masters bidding and ratifies it on Tuesday which of course they will. "I hope so, technically Brexit isn’t ‘done ‘ until Tuesday then??? | |||
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"Cummings has many axes to grind and if it is him expect much more.. Think he's giving evidence next week at a parliamentary committee, interesting.. Cummings has allies within the Tory party they are plotting to get Boris removed, he will be gone this year, You said that last year.
That’s correct, i said last year he would be gone in 2021
You said he would go as soon as brexit deal was done, 4 mo ths and counting, not sure why the tories would want him gone they are going well in the polls
Do you have the proof? I said he will be gone in 2021, btw, is Brexit really done? Brexit is done the trade agreement isn't yet, it depends whether the eu parliment does its masters bidding and ratifies it on Tuesday which of course they will.
I hope so, technically Brexit isn’t ‘done ‘ until Tuesday then???"Yes you still dont seem to understand brexit even now its either deal or no deal whatever way it goes we are out.Done dusted understand now? | |||
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"Cummings has many axes to grind and if it is him expect much more.. Think he's giving evidence next week at a parliamentary committee, interesting.. Cummings has allies within the Tory party they are plotting to get Boris removed, he will be gone this year, You said that last year.
That’s correct, i said last year he would be gone in 2021
You said he would go as soon as brexit deal was done, 4 mo ths and counting, not sure why the tories would want him gone they are going well in the polls
Do you have the proof? I said he will be gone in 2021, btw, is Brexit really done? Brexit is done the trade agreement isn't yet, it depends whether the eu parliment does its masters bidding and ratifies it on Tuesday which of course they will.
I hope so, technically Brexit isn’t ‘done ‘ until Tuesday then???Yes you still dont seem to understand brexit even now its either deal or no deal whatever way it goes we are out.Done dusted understand now? "Now? Or after Tuesday? | |||
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"someones been drinking early . "Not at all, I am glad Brexit is done and we don’t need anymore negotiations with the EU, this shit has gone on long enough | |||
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"Cummings has many axes to grind and if it is him expect much more.. Think he's giving evidence next week at a parliamentary committee, interesting.. Cummings has allies within the Tory party they are plotting to get Boris removed, he will be gone this year, You said that last year.
That’s correct, i said last year he would be gone in 2021
You said he would go as soon as brexit deal was done, 4 mo ths and counting, not sure why the tories would want him gone they are going well in the polls" | |||
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"Boris thinks there is a leak within Downing Street and someone has leaked the emails between him and James Dyson and made them public. Apparently he suspects that Dominic Cummings is responsible. There's no honour between thieves. Boris is on borrowed time, there are obviously a lot of people who want him out ," Same as every PM before him | |||
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"someones been drinking early .
Not at all, I am glad Brexit is done and we don’t need anymore negotiations with the EU, this shit has gone on long enough "We need a lot mpre negotiation with the EU Brexit as it is is nonesense this is the start | |||
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"someones been drinking early .
Not at all, I am glad Brexit is done and we don’t need anymore negotiations with the EU, this shit has gone on long enough We need a lot mpre negotiation with the EU Brexit as it is is nonesense this is the start"You’re right Emma Brexit is nonsense. On that we agree. | |||
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"someones been drinking early .
Not at all, I am glad Brexit is done and we don’t need anymore negotiations with the EU, this shit has gone on long enough We need a lot mpre negotiation with the EU Brexit as it is is nonesense this is the start"Pardon, so Brexit isn’t even close to being ‘done ‘? | |||
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"Cummings has many axes to grind and if it is him expect much more.. Think he's giving evidence next week at a parliamentary committee, interesting.. Cummings has allies within the Tory party they are plotting to get Boris removed, he will be gone this year, " . I cannot see the Conservative party wanting to get rid of him any time soon. We are world leaders in the Covid 19 vaccination programme and he returned an 80 seat majority in the election It seem that as the other parties have nothing to offer the electorate, all they are able to do is criticise Boris . In any event , even if he were to be removed from office , he leaves behind a legacy of which he can be proud. It takes considerable skill to obtain an 80 seat majority, lead a country which is a world leader in the vaccination programme and negotiate a very good deal with the EU. We can safely ignore all those who criticise Boris . The critics have nothing to bring to the table. Everyone has their faults , it is achievements and success that count. | |||
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"Cummings has many axes to grind and if it is him expect much more.. Think he's giving evidence next week at a parliamentary committee, interesting.. Cummings has allies within the Tory party they are plotting to get Boris removed, he will be gone this year, . I cannot see the Conservative party wanting to get rid of him any time soon. We are world leaders in the Covid 19 vaccination programme and he returned an 80 seat majority in the election It seem that as the other parties have nothing to offer the electorate, all they are able to do is criticise Boris . In any event , even if he were to be removed from office , he leaves behind a legacy of which he can be proud. It takes considerable skill to obtain an 80 seat majority, lead a country which is a world leader in the vaccination programme and negotiate a very good deal with the EU. We can safely ignore all those who criticise Boris . The critics have nothing to bring to the table. Everyone has their faults , it is achievements and success that count. " Firstly, we aren’t ‘world leaders ‘ in COVID vaccinations Secondly, getting an 80 seat majority 2 years ago is now irrelevant, and is tiny compared to the majority Blair achieved, I assume you must think that Blair is a far better PM? Thirdly, Cummings is going to bring Boris down, buckle up Pat, this is going to be a bumpy ride | |||
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"Boris thinks there is a leak within Downing Street and someone has leaked the emails between him and James Dyson and made them public. Apparently he suspects that Dominic Cummings is responsible. There's no honour between thieves. " Apparently the most important thing was not only yet another example of Johnson corruption but who was the leaker. | |||
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"Boris thinks there is a leak within Downing Street and someone has leaked the emails between him and James Dyson and made them public. Apparently he suspects that Dominic Cummings is responsible. There's no honour between thieves. Apparently the most important thing was not only yet another example of Johnson corruption but who was the leaker." Why does a businessman checking with the pm about tax treatment of his workers amount to corruption? Neither boris nor dyson would have gained a thing, the only people to benefit would gave been the patients on the ventilators, glad to see your political hatred is more important to you than saving lives in a pandemic. Had Boris sat back and refused offers from skilled engineers you would have criticised him for that, he answers a few texts and you criticised that, cant win can he | |||
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"Apparently boris is going to give tax breaks to everyone who worked through the pandemic just to show, he doesnt give preferential treatment to his billionaire mates. Well done boris "The tax breaks you speak of were for workers that would come back into the country from abroad to work on a project that was of national importance at the time, that of producing ventilators for the NHS. As I understand it, Dyson was asking on behalf of his staff whether the 90 day residency/tax could be waved. If a quick answer is needed you go to the top, in this case the PM. I think Dyson was concerned for his workforce as every good employer should be. Unfortunately an employer looking out for his staff has got lost in rhetoric about sleeze. | |||
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"Apparently boris is going to give tax breaks to everyone who worked through the pandemic just to show, he doesnt give preferential treatment to his billionaire mates. Well done boris
The tax breaks you speak of were for workers that would come back into the country from abroad to work on a project that was of national importance at the time, that of producing ventilators for the NHS. As I understand it, Dyson was asking on behalf of his staff whether the 90 day residency/tax could be waved. If a quick answer is needed you go to the top, in this case the PM. I think Dyson was concerned for his workforce as every good employer should be. Unfortunately an employer looking out for his staff has got lost in rhetoric about sleeze."Did the nhs workers get a tax break? | |||
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"Apparently boris is going to give tax breaks to everyone who worked through the pandemic just to show, he doesnt give preferential treatment to his billionaire mates. Well done boris
The tax breaks you speak of were for workers that would come back into the country from abroad to work on a project that was of national importance at the time, that of producing ventilators for the NHS. As I understand it, Dyson was asking on behalf of his staff whether the 90 day residency/tax could be waved. If a quick answer is needed you go to the top, in this case the PM. I think Dyson was concerned for his workforce as every good employer should be. Unfortunately an employer looking out for his staff has got lost in rhetoric about sleeze.
Did the nhs workers get a tax break?"Were they working for Dyson? | |||
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"Apparently boris is going to give tax breaks to everyone who worked through the pandemic just to show, he doesnt give preferential treatment to his billionaire mates. Well done boris
The tax breaks you speak of were for workers that would come back into the country from abroad to work on a project that was of national importance at the time, that of producing ventilators for the NHS. As I understand it, Dyson was asking on behalf of his staff whether the 90 day residency/tax could be waved. If a quick answer is needed you go to the top, in this case the PM. I think Dyson was concerned for his workforce as every good employer should be. Unfortunately an employer looking out for his staff has got lost in rhetoric about sleeze."Salient points but the facts are that there looks strongly to have been issues where friends and donors had quick access over some tried and tested providers in PPE supply who were ignored, ended up supplying other countries etc.. Granted it was a mess partly down to ignoring previous advice and plans made etc but the playing field wasn't level and it looks sleazy.. | |||
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"Apparently boris is going to give tax breaks to everyone who worked through the pandemic just to show, he doesnt give preferential treatment to his billionaire mates. Well done boris
The tax breaks you speak of were for workers that would come back into the country from abroad to work on a project that was of national importance at the time, that of producing ventilators for the NHS. As I understand it, Dyson was asking on behalf of his staff whether the 90 day residency/tax could be waved. If a quick answer is needed you go to the top, in this case the PM. I think Dyson was concerned for his workforce as every good employer should be. Unfortunately an employer looking out for his staff has got lost in rhetoric about sleeze.
Did the nhs workers get a tax break?
Were they working for Dyson? "I'll take that as a no. | |||
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"Apparently boris is going to give tax breaks to everyone who worked through the pandemic just to show, he doesnt give preferential treatment to his billionaire mates. Well done boris
The tax breaks you speak of were for workers that would come back into the country from abroad to work on a project that was of national importance at the time, that of producing ventilators for the NHS. As I understand it, Dyson was asking on behalf of his staff whether the 90 day residency/tax could be waved. If a quick answer is needed you go to the top, in this case the PM. I think Dyson was concerned for his workforce as every good employer should be. Unfortunately an employer looking out for his staff has got lost in rhetoric about sleeze.
Did the nhs workers get a tax break?
Were they working for Dyson?
I'll take that as a no."I'm sure you don't need me to tell you the answer to that Lionel, welcome back by the way. The point was the leak of a text between Boris and Dyson. Dyson was looking out for his staff. He doesn't employ the NHS, maybe he should he could then look out for them too. We employ the NHS, so maybe we should look out for them. A penny on income tax wouldn't be felt by us all, I'm sure, if we knew that it was going to the NHS staff. But it wouldn't, it would be swallowed by the NHS as a whole. Not an argument for here as it should be about Dyson and Boris. | |||
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"Apparently boris is going to give tax breaks to everyone who worked through the pandemic just to show, he doesnt give preferential treatment to his billionaire mates. Well done boris
The tax breaks you speak of were for workers that would come back into the country from abroad to work on a project that was of national importance at the time, that of producing ventilators for the NHS. As I understand it, Dyson was asking on behalf of his staff whether the 90 day residency/tax could be waved. If a quick answer is needed you go to the top, in this case the PM. I think Dyson was concerned for his workforce as every good employer should be. Unfortunately an employer looking out for his staff has got lost in rhetoric about sleeze.
Did the nhs workers get a tax break?
Were they working for Dyson?
I'll take that as a no.
I'm sure you don't need me to tell you the answer to that Lionel, welcome back by the way.
The point was the leak of a text between Boris and Dyson. Dyson was looking out for his staff. He doesn't employ the NHS, maybe he should he could then look out for them too. We employ the NHS, so maybe we should look out for them. A penny on income tax wouldn't be felt by us all, I'm sure, if we knew that it was going to the NHS staff. But it wouldn't, it would be swallowed by the NHS as a whole.
Not an argument for here as it should be about Dyson and Boris."Ty. The gmnt run the NHS. His argument was he was given them a tax break as a reward for helping out in the pandemic. No one else got this reward.The NHS,carers, anyone who worked through it.In fact even if you got a bonus you got taxed on it. Its another one to add to their long list. | |||
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"Apparently boris is going to give tax breaks to everyone who worked through the pandemic just to show, he doesnt give preferential treatment to his billionaire mates. Well done boris
The tax breaks you speak of were for workers that would come back into the country from abroad to work on a project that was of national importance at the time, that of producing ventilators for the NHS. As I understand it, Dyson was asking on behalf of his staff whether the 90 day residency/tax could be waved. If a quick answer is needed you go to the top, in this case the PM. I think Dyson was concerned for his workforce as every good employer should be. Unfortunately an employer looking out for his staff has got lost in rhetoric about sleeze.
Did the nhs workers get a tax break?
Were they working for Dyson?
I'll take that as a no.
I'm sure you don't need me to tell you the answer to that Lionel, welcome back by the way.
The point was the leak of a text between Boris and Dyson. Dyson was looking out for his staff. He doesn't employ the NHS, maybe he should he could then look out for them too. We employ the NHS, so maybe we should look out for them. A penny on income tax wouldn't be felt by us all, I'm sure, if we knew that it was going to the NHS staff. But it wouldn't, it would be swallowed by the NHS as a whole.
Not an argument for here as it should be about Dyson and Boris.
Ty.
The gmnt run the NHS.
His argument was he was given them a tax break as a reward for helping out in the pandemic.
No one else got this reward.The NHS,carers, anyone who worked through it.In fact even if you got a bonus you got taxed on it.
Its another one to add to their long list.
"Unfortunately that would be true of any government. I'm one of those, not NHS, that was (lucky?) enough to work through, helped keep the economy going while many, through no fault of their own, were on furlough. So yes, I will also be taxed for working through a pandemic. That is the way of the world. Turn the argument around. If it came out that thousands more had died from covid because of a lack of ventilators that could have been made in this country by Dyson who would have bought his staff here, but couldn't because they would have been caught in a tax debacle, how would that have gone down? As it never happened anyway it's a mute point. | |||
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"Boris thinks there is a leak within Downing Street and someone has leaked the emails between him and James Dyson and made them public. Apparently he suspects that Dominic Cummings is responsible. There's no honour between thieves. Boris is on borrowed time, there are obviously a lot of people who want him out , Nonsense, he may go quite soon but that's because he needs the money from speeches and book deals. Nobody has the power to push him out. " Don’t think he’d make much more money where he is now? | |||
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"Apparently boris is going to give tax breaks to everyone who worked through the pandemic just to show, he doesnt give preferential treatment to his billionaire mates. Well done boris
The tax breaks you speak of were for workers that would come back into the country from abroad to work on a project that was of national importance at the time, that of producing ventilators for the NHS. As I understand it, Dyson was asking on behalf of his staff whether the 90 day residency/tax could be waved. If a quick answer is needed you go to the top, in this case the PM. I think Dyson was concerned for his workforce as every good employer should be. Unfortunately an employer looking out for his staff has got lost in rhetoric about sleeze.
Did the nhs workers get a tax break?
Were they working for Dyson?
I'll take that as a no.
I'm sure you don't need me to tell you the answer to that Lionel, welcome back by the way.
The point was the leak of a text between Boris and Dyson. Dyson was looking out for his staff. He doesn't employ the NHS, maybe he should he could then look out for them too. We employ the NHS, so maybe we should look out for them. A penny on income tax wouldn't be felt by us all, I'm sure, if we knew that it was going to the NHS staff. But it wouldn't, it would be swallowed by the NHS as a whole.
Not an argument for here as it should be about Dyson and Boris.
Ty.
The gmnt run the NHS.
His argument was he was given them a tax break as a reward for helping out in the pandemic.
No one else got this reward.The NHS,carers, anyone who worked through it.In fact even if you got a bonus you got taxed on it.
Its another one to add to their long list.
"They were not going to get a tax break as in paying no tax, he wanted to check if they came to the UK for at the time an unknown amount of time they wouldnt be penalised for helping the country out, my god man you are so petty and blinded by your hatred. | |||
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"A businessman texting the pm directly asking him to bypass the tax system is perfectly normal. Why am I not surprised?" People in politics do that all the time. Have you been into the Strangers Bar. At any one time at least 10% will be lobbyists seeking the ear of an MP or a private secretary or another. Do you not think that every single government has worked by taking a chap for a drink here or there to test out and cajole and to lobby? If you don't know any of that, you really don't know how your Government or Politics works at all. | |||
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"A businessman texting the pm directly asking him to bypass the tax system is perfectly normal. Why am I not surprised? People in politics do that all the time. Have you been into the Strangers Bar. At any one time at least 10% will be lobbyists seeking the ear of an MP or a private secretary or another. Do you not think that every single government has worked by taking a chap for a drink here or there to test out and cajole and to lobby? If you don't know any of that, you really don't know how your Government or Politics works at all. " Because something happens doesnt it make it acceptable | |||
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"A businessman texting the pm directly asking him to bypass the tax system is perfectly normal. Why am I not surprised? People in politics do that all the time. Have you been into the Strangers Bar. At any one time at least 10% will be lobbyists seeking the ear of an MP or a private secretary or another. Do you not think that every single government has worked by taking a chap for a drink here or there to test out and cajole and to lobby? If you don't know any of that, you really don't know how your Government or Politics works at all. Because something happens doesnt it make it acceptable " I totally agree - but it is the system we have had since the dawn of Parliament. And EVERY government has done it and will continue to do so. But this really did have special circumstances attached to it - He has already said that he spoke to quite a number of industrialists in the same way at the same time. | |||
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"Apparently texting the pm and asking him to bend the tax rules is perfectly acceptable " So which is better getting some desperately needed medical equipment or in some extreme possibility a few quid of tax given up, why shouldn't a high profile businessman text the PM ? Are you claiming Dyson would have gained himself from the contact, let's compare past PMs and leaders of the oppositions who contacted present ones or other world leaders to push their agendas, people talk and discuss things, once again did either have a penny to gain ? | |||
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"Apparently texting the pm and asking him to bend the tax rules is perfectly acceptable So which is better getting some desperately needed medical equipment or in some extreme possibility a few quid of tax given up, why shouldn't a high profile businessman text the PM ? Are you claiming Dyson would have gained himself from the contact, let's compare past PMs and leaders of the oppositions who contacted present ones or other world leaders to push their agendas, people talk and discuss things, once again did either have a penny to gain ? " Dyson didn’t provide the UK with any ‘desperately needed medical equipment ‘ | |||
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"Apparently texting the pm and asking him to bend the tax rules is perfectly acceptable So which is better getting some desperately needed medical equipment or in some extreme possibility a few quid of tax given up, why shouldn't a high profile businessman text the PM ? Are you claiming Dyson would have gained himself from the contact, let's compare past PMs and leaders of the oppositions who contacted present ones or other world leaders to push their agendas, people talk and discuss things, once again did either have a penny to gain ? Dyson didn’t provide the UK with any ‘desperately needed medical equipment ‘ "
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"Apparently texting the pm and asking him to bend the tax rules is perfectly acceptable So which is better getting some desperately needed medical equipment or in some extreme possibility a few quid of tax given up, why shouldn't a high profile businessman text the PM ? Are you claiming Dyson would have gained himself from the contact, let's compare past PMs and leaders of the oppositions who contacted present ones or other world leaders to push their agendas, people talk and discuss things, once again did either have a penny to gain ? Dyson didn’t provide the UK with any ‘desperately needed medical equipment ‘ " So we werent short of respiratory equipment? | |||
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"Its truly also heartwarming to hear of a businessman who,when we are in the middle of a devestating pandemic, where over 120,000 people have lost their lives,his major concern in financial. I see a knighthood coming his way." It wasnt for his benefit but his workers, the development of the equipment cost him 20 million so money was hardly his first concern, he took no public money, are you critical of phizer for the millions they are making ? | |||
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"Apparently texting the pm and asking him to bend the tax rules is perfectly acceptable So which is better getting some desperately needed medical equipment or in some extreme possibility a few quid of tax given up, why shouldn't a high profile businessman text the PM ? Are you claiming Dyson would have gained himself from the contact, let's compare past PMs and leaders of the oppositions who contacted present ones or other world leaders to push their agendas, people talk and discuss things, once again did either have a penny to gain ? Dyson didn’t provide the UK with any ‘desperately needed medical equipment ‘ So we werent short of respiratory equipment? " Yes we were and Dyson provided us with nothing | |||
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"Apparently texting the pm and asking him to bend the tax rules is perfectly acceptable So which is better getting some desperately needed medical equipment or in some extreme possibility a few quid of tax given up, why shouldn't a high profile businessman text the PM ? Are you claiming Dyson would have gained himself from the contact, let's compare past PMs and leaders of the oppositions who contacted present ones or other world leaders to push their agendas, people talk and discuss things, once again did either have a penny to gain ? Dyson didn’t provide the UK with any ‘desperately needed medical equipment ‘ So we werent short of respiratory equipment? Yes we were and Dyson provided us with nothing " Did his company develop one ? Yes, was it needed in the end? No, however had things turned out differently then they may well have been, you have criticised the government many times for not having stocks of ppe etc and yet when they get a company that develops many new gadgets to develop a new ventilator that might well have saved many lives you complain about that too, you and Lionel need to learn that sometimes when in a hole it's best to stop digging. | |||
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"Apparently texting the pm and asking him to bend the tax rules is perfectly acceptable So which is better getting some desperately needed medical equipment or in some extreme possibility a few quid of tax given up, why shouldn't a high profile businessman text the PM ? Are you claiming Dyson would have gained himself from the contact, let's compare past PMs and leaders of the oppositions who contacted present ones or other world leaders to push their agendas, people talk and discuss things, once again did either have a penny to gain ? Dyson didn’t provide the UK with any ‘desperately needed medical equipment ‘ So we werent short of respiratory equipment? Yes we were and Dyson provided us with nothing Did his company develop one ? Yes, was it needed in the end? No, however had things turned out differently then they may well have been, you have criticised the government many times for not having stocks of ppe etc and yet when they get a company that develops many new gadgets to develop a new ventilator that might well have saved many lives you complain about that too, you and Lionel need to learn that sometimes when in a hole it's best to stop digging." Let's not forget he developed it with 20m of his own funds and didn't ask for any public funding. Have gripes all you like but James Dyson in this episode isn't one to be griping about. | |||
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"Apparently texting the pm and asking him to bend the tax rules is perfectly acceptable So which is better getting some desperately needed medical equipment or in some extreme possibility a few quid of tax given up, why shouldn't a high profile businessman text the PM ? Are you claiming Dyson would have gained himself from the contact, let's compare past PMs and leaders of the oppositions who contacted present ones or other world leaders to push their agendas, people talk and discuss things, once again did either have a penny to gain ? Dyson didn’t provide the UK with any ‘desperately needed medical equipment ‘ So we werent short of respiratory equipment? Yes we were and Dyson provided us with nothing Did his company develop one ? Yes, was it needed in the end? No, however had things turned out differently then they may well have been, you have criticised the government many times for not having stocks of ppe etc and yet when they get a company that develops many new gadgets to develop a new ventilator that might well have saved many lives you complain about that too, you and Lionel need to learn that sometimes when in a hole it's best to stop digging." He provided the UK with zilch , nadda, nothing . | |||
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"Apparently texting the pm and asking him to bend the tax rules is perfectly acceptable So which is better getting some desperately needed medical equipment or in some extreme possibility a few quid of tax given up, why shouldn't a high profile businessman text the PM ? Are you claiming Dyson would have gained himself from the contact, let's compare past PMs and leaders of the oppositions who contacted present ones or other world leaders to push their agendas, people talk and discuss things, once again did either have a penny to gain ? Dyson didn’t provide the UK with any ‘desperately needed medical equipment ‘ So we werent short of respiratory equipment? Yes we were and Dyson provided us with nothing Did his company develop one ? Yes, was it needed in the end? No, however had things turned out differently then they may well have been, you have criticised the government many times for not having stocks of ppe etc and yet when they get a company that develops many new gadgets to develop a new ventilator that might well have saved many lives you complain about that too, you and Lionel need to learn that sometimes when in a hole it's best to stop digging. Let's not forget he developed it with 20m of his own funds and didn't ask for any public funding. Have gripes all you like but James Dyson in this episode isn't one to be griping about." Fair play to him, shame he produced nothing | |||
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"Apparently texting the pm and asking him to bend the tax rules is perfectly acceptable So which is better getting some desperately needed medical equipment or in some extreme possibility a few quid of tax given up, why shouldn't a high profile businessman text the PM ? Are you claiming Dyson would have gained himself from the contact, let's compare past PMs and leaders of the oppositions who contacted present ones or other world leaders to push their agendas, people talk and discuss things, once again did either have a penny to gain ? Dyson didn’t provide the UK with any ‘desperately needed medical equipment ‘ So we werent short of respiratory equipment? Yes we were and Dyson provided us with nothing Did his company develop one ? Yes, was it needed in the end? No, however had things turned out differently then they may well have been, you have criticised the government many times for not having stocks of ppe etc and yet when they get a company that develops many new gadgets to develop a new ventilator that might well have saved many lives you complain about that too, you and Lionel need to learn that sometimes when in a hole it's best to stop digging. Let's not forget he developed it with 20m of his own funds and didn't ask for any public funding. Have gripes all you like but James Dyson in this episode isn't one to be griping about. Fair play to him, shame he produced nothing " He produced a ventilator which wasn't needed in the end. So he effectively threw 20m down the pan and hasn't moaned about it once. So much for capitalism  | |||
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"Apparently texting the pm and asking him to bend the tax rules is perfectly acceptable So which is better getting some desperately needed medical equipment or in some extreme possibility a few quid of tax given up, why shouldn't a high profile businessman text the PM ? Are you claiming Dyson would have gained himself from the contact, let's compare past PMs and leaders of the oppositions who contacted present ones or other world leaders to push their agendas, people talk and discuss things, once again did either have a penny to gain ? Dyson didn’t provide the UK with any ‘desperately needed medical equipment ‘ So we werent short of respiratory equipment? Yes we were and Dyson provided us with nothing Did his company develop one ? Yes, was it needed in the end? No, however had things turned out differently then they may well have been, you have criticised the government many times for not having stocks of ppe etc and yet when they get a company that develops many new gadgets to develop a new ventilator that might well have saved many lives you complain about that too, you and Lionel need to learn that sometimes when in a hole it's best to stop digging. Let's not forget he developed it with 20m of his own funds and didn't ask for any public funding. Have gripes all you like but James Dyson in this episode isn't one to be griping about. Fair play to him, shame he produced nothing He produced a ventilator which wasn't needed in the end. So he effectively threw 20m down the pan and hasn't moaned about it once. So much for capitalism "What a complete waste of his time and money, | |||
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"There are approx 4000 Dyson jobs in the UK that contribute to the UK economy. Mr Dyson has changed his Residency back to the UK too so his Tax liabilities will centre on the UK. " The other 9,000 don’t work in the UK, why did he move out of the UK? | |||
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"There are approx 4000 Dyson jobs in the UK that contribute to the UK economy. Mr Dyson has changed his Residency back to the UK too so his Tax liabilities will centre on the UK. The other 9,000 don’t work in the UK, why did he move out of the UK? " You said he contribute nothing to the UK I said: There are approx 4000 Dyson jobs in the UK that contribute to the UK economy. "Mr Dyson has changed his Residency back to the UK too so his Tax liabilities will centre on the UK.!" Deal with that falsehood on your part. Not the thing I didn't say on mine. | |||
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"It kinda went like this - The UK say they may not have enough ventilators so a fella springs into action and creates one with 20m of his own money. The UK then say we don't need them and said fella says 'ok no problem' In the meantime he was asking questions about his workers should he need to bring them in to produce these said items. What exactly has he done wrong?" Well for starters he wasted £20 million on a worthless product , | |||
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"It kinda went like this - The UK say they may not have enough ventilators so a fella springs into action and creates one with 20m of his own money. The UK then say we don't need them and said fella says 'ok no problem' In the meantime he was asking questions about his workers should he need to bring them in to produce these said items. What exactly has he done wrong? Well for starters he wasted £20 million on a worthless product , " Has he bitched about it? | |||
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"It kinda went like this - The UK say they may not have enough ventilators so a fella springs into action and creates one with 20m of his own money. The UK then say we don't need them and said fella says 'ok no problem' In the meantime he was asking questions about his workers should he need to bring them in to produce these said items. What exactly has he done wrong? Well for starters he wasted £20 million on a worthless product , " Nope. He wasted 20 million on a product that in the end wasn't needed. | |||
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"It kinda went like this - The UK say they may not have enough ventilators so a fella springs into action and creates one with 20m of his own money. The UK then say we don't need them and said fella says 'ok no problem' In the meantime he was asking questions about his workers should he need to bring them in to produce these said items. What exactly has he done wrong? Well for starters he wasted £20 million on a worthless product , " Apparently texting the pm and asking to be exempt from paying tax is perfectly normal. I'm not sure why the press are making such a big deal if it. It probably happens every day | |||
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"There are approx 4000 Dyson jobs in the UK that contribute to the UK economy. Mr Dyson has changed his Residency back to the UK too so his Tax liabilities will centre on the UK. The other 9,000 don’t work in the UK, why did he move out of the UK? You said he contribute nothing to the UK I said: There are approx 4000 Dyson jobs in the UK that contribute to the UK economy. "Mr Dyson has changed his Residency back to the UK too so his Tax liabilities will centre on the UK.!" Deal with that falsehood on your part. Not the thing I didn't say on mine." What about Klaus, he invented a magic respiratory made from cardboard boxes, he didn’t receive any praise, and not once did he ask for tax breaks for his workers . | |||
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"It kinda went like this - The UK say they may not have enough ventilators so a fella springs into action and creates one with 20m of his own money. The UK then say we don't need them and said fella says 'ok no problem' In the meantime he was asking questions about his workers should he need to bring them in to produce these said items. What exactly has he done wrong? Well for starters he wasted £20 million on a worthless product , Apparently texting the pm and asking to be exempt from paying tax is perfectly normal. I'm not sure why the press are making such a big deal if it. It probably happens every day " Maybe if he actually done that you'd have cause to complain. | |||
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"It kinda went like this - The UK say they may not have enough ventilators so a fella springs into action and creates one with 20m of his own money. The UK then say we don't need them and said fella says 'ok no problem' In the meantime he was asking questions about his workers should he need to bring them in to produce these said items. What exactly has he done wrong? Well for starters he wasted £20 million on a worthless product , Nope. He wasted 20 million on a product that in the end wasn't needed. " Like I said, wasted £20 million | |||
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"It kinda went like this - The UK say they may not have enough ventilators so a fella springs into action and creates one with 20m of his own money. The UK then say we don't need them and said fella says 'ok no problem' In the meantime he was asking questions about his workers should he need to bring them in to produce these said items. What exactly has he done wrong? Well for starters he wasted £20 million on a worthless product , Nope. He wasted 20 million on a product that in the end wasn't needed. Like I said, wasted £20 million " Suddenly you drop the 'worthless?' hahaha | |||
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"He also argued that EU law was unfair too and won and the law was changed. "Dyson or Klaus? | |||
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"It kinda went like this - The UK say they may not have enough ventilators so a fella springs into action and creates one with 20m of his own money. The UK then say we don't need them and said fella says 'ok no problem' In the meantime he was asking questions about his workers should he need to bring them in to produce these said items. What exactly has he done wrong? Well for starters he wasted £20 million on a worthless product , Nope. He wasted 20 million on a product that in the end wasn't needed. Like I said, wasted £20 million Suddenly you drop the 'worthless?' hahaha" It is worthless, where are they now? | |||
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"He also argued that EU law was unfair too and won and the law was changed.
Dyson or Klaus? "Obviously Dyson co's that's who we are talking about. Now do keep up. Lots to do here. | |||
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"It kinda went like this - The UK say they may not have enough ventilators so a fella springs into action and creates one with 20m of his own money. The UK then say we don't need them and said fella says 'ok no problem' In the meantime he was asking questions about his workers should he need to bring them in to produce these said items. What exactly has he done wrong? Well for starters he wasted £20 million on a worthless product , Nope. He wasted 20 million on a product that in the end wasn't needed. Like I said, wasted £20 million Suddenly you drop the 'worthless?' hahaha It is worthless, where are they now? " They were given away weren't they, for free? As I recall. Could be wrong. | |||
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"He also argued that EU law was unfair too and won and the law was changed.
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Obviously Dyson co's that's who we are talking about. Now do keep up. Lots to do here."Ah, but you have dismissed Klaus, he spent £20 on boxes, unfortunately he doesn’t have Boris’s personal number though  | |||
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" It is worthless, where are they now? They were given away weren't they, for free? As I recall. Could be wrong. " Nope scrub that. He spent £20 million on the production of but never manufactured ventilators. So he wasted the money, but as another poster said "has never complained". | |||
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" It is worthless, where are they now? They were given away weren't they, for free? As I recall. Could be wrong. Nope scrub that. He spent £20 million on the production of but never manufactured ventilators. So he wasted the money, but as another poster said "has never complained". " O dear, what a fuck up | |||
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" It is worthless, where are they now? They were given away weren't they, for free? As I recall. Could be wrong. Nope scrub that. He spent £20 million on the production of but never manufactured ventilators. So he wasted the money, but as another poster said "has never complained". O dear, what a fuck up "Happens all the time in industry. | |||
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" It is worthless, where are they now? They were given away weren't they, for free? As I recall. Could be wrong. Nope scrub that. He spent £20 million on the production of but never manufactured ventilators. So he wasted the money, but as another poster said "has never complained". O dear, what a fuck up "Why is it a fuck up? People put money into developing products that never get to production everyday. Its called R&D. Part of business. | |||
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"Anyway. Let me ask you. What actuall problem do you have a problem with Mr Dyson ? The PM called him to start with in March and asked for him to be involved. As he did with many other UK companies." I wish I had the PMs private number, | |||
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"Anyway. Let me ask you. What actuall problem do you have a problem with Mr Dyson ? The PM called him to start with in March and asked for him to be involved. As he did with many other UK companies. I wish I had the PMs private number, "Well bearing in mind that he is a personal friend he would, wouldn't he? | |||
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Why is it a fuck up? People put money into developing products that never get to production everyday.
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"Anyway. Let me ask you. What actuall problem do you have a problem with Mr Dyson ? The PM called him to start with in March and asked for him to be involved. As he did with many other UK companies. I wish I had the PMs private number,
Well bearing in mind that he is a personal friend he would, wouldn't he? "Then he should keep his relationship personal rather than business related, there are other official channels he should have used | |||
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" It is worthless, where are they now? They were given away weren't they, for free? As I recall. Could be wrong. Nope scrub that. He spent £20 million on the production of but never manufactured ventilators. So he wasted the money, but as another poster said "has never complained". O dear, what a fuck up
Why is it a fuck up? People put money into developing products that never get to production everyday.
Its called R&D. Part of business.
Fair enough, nothing like wasting £20 million on a product nobody wants , "Its small change to him. Have you never wasted £20 or even £100? Pretty sure we all have. | |||
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" It is worthless, where are they now? They were given away weren't they, for free? As I recall. Could be wrong. Nope scrub that. He spent £20 million on the production of but never manufactured ventilators. So he wasted the money, but as another poster said "has never complained". O dear, what a fuck up
Why is it a fuck up? People put money into developing products that never get to production everyday.
Its called R&D. Part of business.
Fair enough, nothing like wasting £20 million on a product nobody wants ,
Its small change to him. Have you never wasted £20 or even £100?
Pretty sure we all have."That’s ok then , I wonder why Boris asked him to make the ventilators then decided that he no longer wanted them? | |||
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"And also bearing in mind that he was asked first by the PM (as many other companies were at the time) It would make sense to have his number, personal friend or not. I'm sure all of those other companies in the UK would have a direct feed back to the PM at the time too." Why? | |||
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" It is worthless, where are they now? They were given away weren't they, for free? As I recall. Could be wrong. Nope scrub that. He spent £20 million on the production of but never manufactured ventilators. So he wasted the money, but as another poster said "has never complained". O dear, what a fuck up
Why is it a fuck up? People put money into developing products that never get to production everyday.
Its called R&D. Part of business.
Fair enough, nothing like wasting £20 million on a product nobody wants ,
Its small change to him. Have you never wasted £20 or even £100?
Pretty sure we all have.
That’s ok then , I wonder why Boris asked him to make the ventilators then decided that he no longer wanted them? "That was the decision of the nhs. | |||
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"And also bearing in mind that he was asked first by the PM (as many other companies were at the time) It would make sense to have his number, personal friend or not. I'm sure all of those other companies in the UK would have a direct feed back to the PM at the time too. Why? " Why not? We were/are in a Pandemic after all, right in the middle of it at the time when nobody knew the scale of the problem. | |||
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" It is worthless, where are they now? They were given away weren't they, for free? As I recall. Could be wrong. Nope scrub that. He spent £20 million on the production of but never manufactured ventilators. So he wasted the money, but as another poster said "has never complained". O dear, what a fuck up
Why is it a fuck up? People put money into developing products that never get to production everyday.
Its called R&D. Part of business.
Fair enough, nothing like wasting £20 million on a product nobody wants ,
Its small change to him. Have you never wasted £20 or even £100?
Pretty sure we all have.
That’s ok then , I wonder why Boris asked him to make the ventilators then decided that he no longer wanted them?
That was the decision of the nhs. "They must have been over priced and shit ventilators | |||
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" It is worthless, where are they now? They were given away weren't they, for free? As I recall. Could be wrong. Nope scrub that. He spent £20 million on the production of but never manufactured ventilators. So he wasted the money, but as another poster said "has never complained". O dear, what a fuck up
Why is it a fuck up? People put money into developing products that never get to production everyday.
Its called R&D. Part of business.
Fair enough, nothing like wasting £20 million on a product nobody wants ,
Its small change to him. Have you never wasted £20 or even £100?
Pretty sure we all have.
That’s ok then , I wonder why Boris asked him to make the ventilators then decided that he no longer wanted them?
That was the decision of the nhs.
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"And also bearing in mind that he was asked first by the PM (as many other companies were at the time) It would make sense to have his number, personal friend or not. I'm sure all of those other companies in the UK would have a direct feed back to the PM at the time too. Why? Why not? We were/are in a Pandemic after all, right in the middle of it at the time when nobody knew the scale of the problem. " And? Did everyone helping during the pandemic have his personal number, or just the chosen few? | |||
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"And also bearing in mind that he was asked first by the PM (as many other companies were at the time) It would make sense to have his number, personal friend or not. I'm sure all of those other companies in the UK would have a direct feed back to the PM at the time too. Why? Why not? We were/are in a Pandemic after all, right in the middle of it at the time when nobody knew the scale of the problem. And? Did everyone helping during the pandemic have his personal number, or just the chosen few? " Boris has already said that he called more than a dozen uk companies I'm guessing that all did have his number from that point on. | |||
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" It is worthless, where are they now? They were given away weren't they, for free? As I recall. Could be wrong. Nope scrub that. He spent £20 million on the production of but never manufactured ventilators. So he wasted the money, but as another poster said "has never complained". O dear, what a fuck up
Why is it a fuck up? People put money into developing products that never get to production everyday.
Its called R&D. Part of business.
Fair enough, nothing like wasting £20 million on a product nobody wants ,
Its small change to him. Have you never wasted £20 or even £100?
Pretty sure we all have.
That’s ok then , I wonder why Boris asked him to make the ventilators then decided that he no longer wanted them?
That was the decision of the nhs.
They must have been over priced and shit ventilators
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" It is worthless, where are they now? They were given away weren't they, for free? As I recall. Could be wrong. Nope scrub that. He spent £20 million on the production of but never manufactured ventilators. So he wasted the money, but as another poster said "has never complained". O dear, what a fuck up
Why is it a fuck up? People put money into developing products that never get to production everyday.
Its called R&D. Part of business.
Fair enough, nothing like wasting £20 million on a product nobody wants ,
Its small change to him. Have you never wasted £20 or even £100?
Pretty sure we all have.
That’s ok then , I wonder why Boris asked him to make the ventilators then decided that he no longer wanted them?
That was the decision of the nhs.
They must have been over priced and shit ventilators
How trite of you.
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" It is worthless, where are they now? They were given away weren't they, for free? As I recall. Could be wrong. Nope scrub that. He spent £20 million on the production of but never manufactured ventilators. So he wasted the money, but as another poster said "has never complained". O dear, what a fuck up
Why is it a fuck up? People put money into developing products that never get to production everyday.
Its called R&D. Part of business.
Fair enough, nothing like wasting £20 million on a product nobody wants ,
Its small change to him. Have you never wasted £20 or even £100?
Pretty sure we all have.
That’s ok then , I wonder why Boris asked him to make the ventilators then decided that he no longer wanted them?
That was the decision of the nhs.
They must have been over priced and shit ventilators
How trite of you.
Do you have a different reason?
They were surplus to requirement - go look yourself for a change, all the information is out there. Argue from a point of fact not trite comments like they must have been shit etc. "They must have got better quality cheaper ventilators from elsewhere | |||
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"But here is a really pertinent fact that you just won't like - Dyson never benefitted at all by being called by the PM to take part. So if the PM was doing favours for his friend why didn't he ensure that the Dyson Ventilators were picked over the JCB Ventilators? As far as I'm aware Lord Balford hasn't declared a personal friendship with the PM? " Who cares? | |||
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"But here is a really pertinent fact that you just won't like - Dyson never benefitted at all by being called by the PM to take part. So if the PM was doing favours for his friend why didn't he ensure that the Dyson Ventilators were picked over the JCB Ventilators? As far as I'm aware Lord Balford hasn't declared a personal friendship with the PM? Who cares? " An inconvenient truth always gets this kind of response from you. Suddenly you don't care after arguing all day in the converse. Oh Deary Deary Me. Such a Trolls response. I would have like to have thought differently but there you have it. Another day another lesson learned. | |||
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"But here is a really pertinent fact that you just won't like - Dyson never benefitted at all by being called by the PM to take part. So if the PM was doing favours for his friend why didn't he ensure that the Dyson Ventilators were picked over the JCB Ventilators? As far as I'm aware Lord Balford hasn't declared a personal friendship with the PM? Who cares? An inconvenient truth always gets this kind of response from you. Suddenly you don't care after arguing all day in the converse. Oh Deary Deary Me. Such a Trolls response. I would have like to have thought differently but there you have it. Another day another lesson learned. " You keep making irrelevant posts , | |||
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"Anyway, let’s hope there is thorough inquiry and all these texts can be questions. Cummings is obviously very upset at being accused of this leak, I wonder what else he has in store "This investigation boris is doing on Cameron. Is he now going to be investigating himself aswell,? | |||
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"Anyway, let’s hope there is thorough inquiry and all these texts can be questions. Cummings is obviously very upset at being accused of this leak, I wonder what else he has in store "I dont think he was too happy being sacked either. | |||
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"Anyway, let’s hope there is thorough inquiry and all these texts can be questions. Cummings is obviously very upset at being accused of this leak, I wonder what else he has in store
This investigation boris is doing on Cameron.
Is he now going to be investigating himself aswell,?"You need to keep up with the news. All the info is already in committee after Boris said give it to them in full in the House two days ago. | |||
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"Anyway, let’s hope there is thorough inquiry and all these texts can be questions. Cummings is obviously very upset at being accused of this leak, I wonder what else he has in store I dont think he was too happy being sacked either. "Especially as he was ‘sacked’ by Princess Nut Nuts | |||
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"Anyway, let’s hope there is thorough inquiry and all these texts can be questions. Cummings is obviously very upset at being accused of this leak, I wonder what else he has in store
This investigation boris is doing on Cameron.
Is he now going to be investigating himself aswell,?
You need to keep up with the news. All the info is already in committee after Boris said give it to them in full in the House two days ago. "Yes I read that.. and who Is leading the investigation again? | |||
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"Anyway, let’s hope there is thorough inquiry and all these texts can be questions. Cummings is obviously very upset at being accused of this leak, I wonder what else he has in store
This investigation boris is doing on Cameron.
Is he now going to be investigating himself aswell,?
You need to keep up with the news. All the info is already in committee after Boris said give it to them in full in the House two days ago.
Yes I read that.. and who Is leading the investigation again?"As Boris isn't the head of that committee, not Boris. | |||
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"But here is a really pertinent fact that you just won't like - Dyson never benefitted at all by being called by the PM to take part. So if the PM was doing favours for his friend why didn't he ensure that the Dyson Ventilators were picked over the JCB Ventilators? As far as I'm aware Lord Balford hasn't declared a personal friendship with the PM? Who cares? An inconvenient truth always gets this kind of response from you. Suddenly you don't care after arguing all day in the converse. Oh Deary Deary Me. Such a Trolls response. I would have like to have thought differently but there you have it. Another day another lesson learned. " | |||
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"Anyway, let’s hope there is thorough inquiry and all these texts can be questions. Cummings is obviously very upset at being accused of this leak, I wonder what else he has in store I dont think he was too happy being sacked either.
Especially as he was ‘sacked’ by Princess Nut Nuts "I dont think she is part of the government how exactly did she do that or are we back in the realms of your fantasies again? | |||
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"But here is a really pertinent fact that you just won't like - Dyson never benefitted at all by being called by the PM to take part. So if the PM was doing favours for his friend why didn't he ensure that the Dyson Ventilators were picked over the JCB Ventilators? As far as I'm aware Lord Balford hasn't declared a personal friendship with the PM? Who cares? An inconvenient truth always gets this kind of response from you. Suddenly you don't care after arguing all day in the converse. Oh Deary Deary Me. Such a Trolls response. I would have like to have thought differently but there you have it. Another day another lesson learned. "
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"Anyway, let’s hope there is thorough inquiry and all these texts can be questions. Cummings is obviously very upset at being accused of this leak, I wonder what else he has in store I dont think he was too happy being sacked either.
Especially as he was ‘sacked’ by Princess Nut Nuts I dont think she is part of the government how exactly did she do that or are we back in the realms of your fantasies again?"Boris is big chums with Cummings, Princess nut nuts doesn’t like Cummings, Boris is no longer chums with Cummings, Cummings is sacked, Cummings is now turning on Boris ? | |||
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"Anyway, let’s hope there is thorough inquiry and all these texts can be questions. Cummings is obviously very upset at being accused of this leak, I wonder what else he has in store I dont think he was too happy being sacked either.
Especially as he was ‘sacked’ by Princess Nut Nuts I dont think she is part of the government how exactly did she do that or are we back in the realms of your fantasies again?
Boris is big chums with Cummings, Princess nut nuts doesn’t like Cummings, Boris is no longer chums with Cummings, Cummings is sacked, Cummings is now turning on Boris ? "Did she sack him? | |||
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"Anyway, let’s hope there is thorough inquiry and all these texts can be questions. Cummings is obviously very upset at being accused of this leak, I wonder what else he has in store I dont think he was too happy being sacked either.
Especially as he was ‘sacked’ by Princess Nut Nuts I dont think she is part of the government how exactly did she do that or are we back in the realms of your fantasies again?
Boris is big chums with Cummings, Princess nut nuts doesn’t like Cummings, Boris is no longer chums with Cummings, Cummings is sacked, Cummings is now turning on Boris ? Did she sack him?"She told Boris to sack him, anyway have you made your decision, team Boris or team Cummings? | |||
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" She told Boris to sack him, anyway have you made your decision, team Boris or team Cummings? " Until you prove that's the truth, it's a lie. | |||
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"Anyway, let’s hope there is thorough inquiry and all these texts can be questions. Cummings is obviously very upset at being accused of this leak, I wonder what else he has in store I dont think he was too happy being sacked either.
Especially as he was ‘sacked’ by Princess Nut Nuts I dont think she is part of the government how exactly did she do that or are we back in the realms of your fantasies again?
Boris is big chums with Cummings, Princess nut nuts doesn’t like Cummings, Boris is no longer chums with Cummings, Cummings is sacked, Cummings is now turning on Boris ? Did she sack him?
She told Boris to sack him, anyway have you made your decision, team Boris or team Cummings? "so she didnt sack him ? as i said we are back in the realms of your fantasies.Now for your next one you know she told him to how? | |||
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"Anyway, let’s hope there is thorough inquiry and all these texts can be questions. Cummings is obviously very upset at being accused of this leak, I wonder what else he has in store I dont think he was too happy being sacked either.
Especially as he was ‘sacked’ by Princess Nut Nuts I dont think she is part of the government how exactly did she do that or are we back in the realms of your fantasies again?
Boris is big chums with Cummings, Princess nut nuts doesn’t like Cummings, Boris is no longer chums with Cummings, Cummings is sacked, Cummings is now turning on Boris ? Did she sack him?
She told Boris to sack him, anyway have you made your decision, team Boris or team Cummings? so she didnt sack him ? as i said we are back in the realms of your fantasies.Now for your next one you know she told him to how? "Ok, she had nothing to do with his sacking, I am sure Cummings will reveal the truth . Anyway, Boris? Or Cummings? | |||
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"Anyway, let’s hope there is thorough inquiry and all these texts can be questions. Cummings is obviously very upset at being accused of this leak, I wonder what else he has in store I dont think he was too happy being sacked either.
Especially as he was ‘sacked’ by Princess Nut Nuts I dont think she is part of the government how exactly did she do that or are we back in the realms of your fantasies again?
Boris is big chums with Cummings, Princess nut nuts doesn’t like Cummings, Boris is no longer chums with Cummings, Cummings is sacked, Cummings is now turning on Boris ? Did she sack him?
She told Boris to sack him, anyway have you made your decision, team Boris or team Cummings? so she didnt sack him ? as i said we are back in the realms of your fantasies.Now for your next one you know she told him to how?
Ok, she had nothing to do with his sacking, I am sure Cummings will reveal the truth . Anyway, Boris? Or Cummings? "Right so you have just been posting crap not facts just stuff you made up in your head. | |||
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""Cummings’ university history tutor once described him as “something like a Robespierre”, “determined to bring down things that don’t work”. Five years after his revolution, Robespierre himself was deemed to be something that didn’t really work, and was “brought down”" Brilliant. Just Brilliant. "So your team Boris? | |||
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"Anyway, let’s hope there is thorough inquiry and all these texts can be questions. Cummings is obviously very upset at being accused of this leak, I wonder what else he has in store I dont think he was too happy being sacked either.
Especially as he was ‘sacked’ by Princess Nut Nuts I dont think she is part of the government how exactly did she do that or are we back in the realms of your fantasies again?
Boris is big chums with Cummings, Princess nut nuts doesn’t like Cummings, Boris is no longer chums with Cummings, Cummings is sacked, Cummings is now turning on Boris ? Did she sack him?
She told Boris to sack him, anyway have you made your decision, team Boris or team Cummings? so she didnt sack him ? as i said we are back in the realms of your fantasies.Now for your next one you know she told him to how?
Ok, she had nothing to do with his sacking, I am sure Cummings will reveal the truth . Anyway, Boris? Or Cummings? Right so you have just been posting crap not facts just stuff you made up in your head."Yeah, sorry about that, Boris or Cummings? | |||
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" Ok, she had nothing to do with his sacking, I am sure Cummings will reveal the truth . Anyway, Boris? Or Cummings? " So. NOT the truth then? Couldn't even give one thumb to this!!! | |||
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"Anyway, let’s hope there is thorough inquiry and all these texts can be questions. Cummings is obviously very upset at being accused of this leak, I wonder what else he has in store I dont think he was too happy being sacked either.
Especially as he was ‘sacked’ by Princess Nut Nuts I dont think she is part of the government how exactly did she do that or are we back in the realms of your fantasies again?
Boris is big chums with Cummings, Princess nut nuts doesn’t like Cummings, Boris is no longer chums with Cummings, Cummings is sacked, Cummings is now turning on Boris ? Did she sack him?
She told Boris to sack him, anyway have you made your decision, team Boris or team Cummings? so she didnt sack him ? as i said we are back in the realms of your fantasies.Now for your next one you know she told him to how?
Ok, she had nothing to do with his sacking, I am sure Cummings will reveal the truth . Anyway, Boris? Or Cummings? Right so you have just been posting crap not facts just stuff you made up in your head.
Yeah, sorry about that, Boris or Cummings? "i know its just banter i answered that an hour ago. | |||
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"Anyway, let’s hope there is thorough inquiry and all these texts can be questions. Cummings is obviously very upset at being accused of this leak, I wonder what else he has in store I dont think he was too happy being sacked either.
Especially as he was ‘sacked’ by Princess Nut Nuts I dont think she is part of the government how exactly did she do that or are we back in the realms of your fantasies again?
Boris is big chums with Cummings, Princess nut nuts doesn’t like Cummings, Boris is no longer chums with Cummings, Cummings is sacked, Cummings is now turning on Boris ? Did she sack him?
She told Boris to sack him, anyway have you made your decision, team Boris or team Cummings? so she didnt sack him ? as i said we are back in the realms of your fantasies.Now for your next one you know she told him to how?
Ok, she had nothing to do with his sacking, I am sure Cummings will reveal the truth . Anyway, Boris? Or Cummings? Right so you have just been posting crap not facts just stuff you made up in your head.
Yeah, sorry about that, Boris or Cummings? i know its just banter i answered that an hour ago."Sorry mate I missed is, tbh your one of the very few tories/Brexit supporters I respect on here, I am genuinely interested in your opinion | |||
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" Sorry mate I missed is, tbh your one of the very few tories/Brexit supporters I respect on here, I am genuinely interested in your opinion " Aw how sweet! | |||
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" Ok, she had nothing to do with his sacking, I am sure Cummings will reveal the truth . Anyway, Boris? Or Cummings? So. NOT the truth then? Couldn't even give one thumb to this!!!" | |||
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"But here is a really pertinent fact that you just won't like - Dyson never benefitted at all by being called by the PM to take part. So if the PM was doing favours for his friend why didn't he ensure that the Dyson Ventilators were picked over the JCB Ventilators? As far as I'm aware Lord Balford hasn't declared a personal friendship with the PM? " Boris was on JCB’s payroll for a number of years. Consultancy fees £20-40k per year for 20 hours per year. Just saying | |||
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"But here is a really pertinent fact that you just won't like - Dyson never benefitted at all by being called by the PM to take part. So if the PM was doing favours for his friend why didn't he ensure that the Dyson Ventilators were picked over the JCB Ventilators? As far as I'm aware Lord Balford hasn't declared a personal friendship with the PM? Boris was on JCB’s payroll for a number of years. Consultancy fees £20-40k per year for 20 hours per year. Just saying "OMG! He's such a Master Criminal. | |||
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"But here is a really pertinent fact that you just won't like - Dyson never benefitted at all by being called by the PM to take part. So if the PM was doing favours for his friend why didn't he ensure that the Dyson Ventilators were picked over the JCB Ventilators? As far as I'm aware Lord Balford hasn't declared a personal friendship with the PM? Boris was on JCB’s payroll for a number of years. Consultancy fees £20-40k per year for 20 hours per year. Just saying "lucky get | |||
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"Anyway, let’s hope there is thorough inquiry and all these texts can be questions. Cummings is obviously very upset at being accused of this leak, I wonder what else he has in store I dont think he was too happy being sacked either.
Especially as he was ‘sacked’ by Princess Nut Nuts I dont think she is part of the government how exactly did she do that or are we back in the realms of your fantasies again?
Boris is big chums with Cummings, Princess nut nuts doesn’t like Cummings, Boris is no longer chums with Cummings, Cummings is sacked, Cummings is now turning on Boris ? "It must be quite difficult for them tbf Only a few months ago they were bending over backwards to defend him,now that he has turned on the bumbling fool,he has turned into the devil incarnate. It's all very amusing watching them tying themselves in knots | |||
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"Anyway, let’s hope there is thorough inquiry and all these texts can be questions. Cummings is obviously very upset at being accused of this leak, I wonder what else he has in store I dont think he was too happy being sacked either.
Especially as he was ‘sacked’ by Princess Nut Nuts I dont think she is part of the government how exactly did she do that or are we back in the realms of your fantasies again?
Boris is big chums with Cummings, Princess nut nuts doesn’t like Cummings, Boris is no longer chums with Cummings, Cummings is sacked, Cummings is now turning on Boris ?
It must be quite difficult for them tbf
Only a few months ago they were bending over backwards to defend him,now that he has turned on the bumbling fool,he has turned into the devil incarnate.
It's all very amusing watching them tying themselves in knots " | |||
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