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"“Headteacher Katharine Birbalsingh accuses 'woke cultural racism' for 'mercilessly attacking' black conservatives who 'betray their leftist masters by daring to think for themselves' “ My top tip is always think for yourselves. Even “respected” sources come out with odd sounding stuff sometimes." Well that helps us all. You’ve certainly cleared this one up... | |||
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"“Headteacher Katharine Birbalsingh accuses 'woke cultural racism' for 'mercilessly attacking' black conservatives who 'betray their leftist masters by daring to think for themselves' “ My top tip is always think for yourselves. Even “respected” sources come out with odd sounding stuff sometimes. Well that helps us all. You’ve certainly cleared this one up..." Op is a professor , us plebs can not dispute his razor sharp clarity. He loves to quote. | |||
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"Woke culture is insidious and is replacing learning " Such a fallacy! | |||
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"Woke culture is insidious and is replacing learning Such a fallacy! " Stop being woke and trying to cancel the OP, who is just trying to cancel "woke culture" before "woke culture" cancels racism. | |||
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"“Headteacher Katharine Birbalsingh accuses 'woke cultural racism' for 'mercilessly attacking' black conservatives who 'betray their leftist masters by daring to think for themselves' “ My top tip is always think for yourselves. Even “respected” sources come out with odd sounding stuff sometimes."  | |||
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"Woke culture is insidious and is replacing learning Such a fallacy! Stop being woke and trying to cancel the OP, who is just trying to cancel "woke culture" before "woke culture" cancels racism. " You can call me names as much as you want!! It just to cover lack of depth in your argument. Resorting to abuse as usual from the daily bile brigade.. Where the proofs? The data? | |||
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"Woke culture is insidious and is replacing learning Such a fallacy! Stop being woke and trying to cancel the OP, who is just trying to cancel "woke culture" before "woke culture" cancels racism. You can call me names as much as you want!! It just to cover lack of depth in your argument. Resorting to abuse as usual from the daily bile brigade.. Where the proofs? The data? " Accusations of Woke doesn't require proof. Just read the Daily mail for the truth. | |||
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"Woke culture is insidious and is replacing learning Such a fallacy! Stop being woke and trying to cancel the OP, who is just trying to cancel "woke culture" before "woke culture" cancels racism. You can call me names as much as you want!! It just to cover lack of depth in your argument. Resorting to abuse as usual from the daily bile brigade.. Where the proofs? The data? " I’ve given you the quotes, you’ll either read it or you won’t because it doesn’t fit your prejudices. | |||
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"Woke culture is insidious and is replacing learning Such a fallacy! Stop being woke and trying to cancel the OP, who is just trying to cancel "woke culture" before "woke culture" cancels racism. You can call me names as much as you want!! It just to cover lack of depth in your argument. Resorting to abuse as usual from the daily bile brigade.. Where the proofs? The data? I’ve given you the quotes, you’ll either read it or you won’t because it doesn’t fit your prejudices. " Quite right. Anyone who doesn't condemned everyone for being woke every five minutes is just prejudice. Read the Daily mail every day for the truth. | |||
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"Woke culture is insidious and is replacing learning Such a fallacy! Stop being woke and trying to cancel the OP, who is just trying to cancel "woke culture" before "woke culture" cancels racism. You can call me names as much as you want!! It just to cover lack of depth in your argument. Resorting to abuse as usual from the daily bile brigade.. Where the proofs? The data? I’ve given you the quotes, you’ll either read it or you won’t because it doesn’t fit your prejudices. Quite right. Anyone who doesn't condemned everyone for being woke every five minutes is just prejudice. Read the Daily mail every day for the truth. " On the other hand some of us read all reputable sources, even opinions we disagree with, before forming conclusions. | |||
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"Woke culture is insidious and is replacing learning Such a fallacy! Stop being woke and trying to cancel the OP, who is just trying to cancel "woke culture" before "woke culture" cancels racism. You can call me names as much as you want!! It just to cover lack of depth in your argument. Resorting to abuse as usual from the daily bile brigade.. Where the proofs? The data? I’ve given you the quotes, you’ll either read it or you won’t because it doesn’t fit your prejudices. Quite right. Anyone who doesn't condemned everyone for being woke every five minutes is just prejudice. Read the Daily mail every day for the truth. On the other hand some of us read all reputable sources, even opinions we disagree with, before forming conclusions. " That sounds like woke culture to me. Just stick to the Daily Mail where it's safe. | |||
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"Woke culture is insidious and is replacing learning Such a fallacy! Stop being woke and trying to cancel the OP, who is just trying to cancel "woke culture" before "woke culture" cancels racism. You can call me names as much as you want!! It just to cover lack of depth in your argument. Resorting to abuse as usual from the daily bile brigade.. Where the proofs? The data? I’ve given you the quotes, you’ll either read it or you won’t because it doesn’t fit your prejudices. Quite right. Anyone who doesn't condemned everyone for being woke every five minutes is just prejudice. Read the Daily mail every day for the truth. On the other hand some of us read all reputable sources, even opinions we disagree with, before forming conclusions. " This in spades.... Sure a wokespokesman will accuse me of a racist statement for that one... | |||
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"The trouble with the wokes is that they pretend to applaud free speech yet if they are engaged with an alternative point of view then they can't close it down quick enough.. Free speech on their terms usually..." Are you suggesting that "wokes" shouldn't be alert to injustice and racism? Or are you saying they can be, but they should just shut up about it? | |||
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"The trouble with the wokes is that they pretend to applaud free speech yet if they are engaged with an alternative point of view then they can't close it down quick enough.. Free speech on their terms usually... Are you suggesting that "wokes" shouldn't be alert to injustice and racism? Or are you saying they can be, but they should just shut up about it?" No.. I am saying they can only debate on their own narrow views, terrified of challenge or different views and for some oddball reason promote some weird cancel culture... | |||
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"The trouble with the wokes is that they pretend to applaud free speech yet if they are engaged with an alternative point of view then they can't close it down quick enough.. Free speech on their terms usually... Are you suggesting that "wokes" shouldn't be alert to injustice and racism? Or are you saying they can be, but they should just shut up about it?" Can you read? They never said that... | |||
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"The trouble with the wokes is that they pretend to applaud free speech yet if they are engaged with an alternative point of view then they can't close it down quick enough.. Free speech on their terms usually... Are you suggesting that "wokes" shouldn't be alert to injustice and racism? Or are you saying they can be, but they should just shut up about it? Can you read? They never said that... " The wokes can read but not see, hear but not listen, read but not comprehend... | |||
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"The trouble with the wokes is that they pretend to applaud free speech yet if they are engaged with an alternative point of view then they can't close it down quick enough.. Free speech on their terms usually... Are you suggesting that "wokes" shouldn't be alert to injustice and racism? Or are you saying they can be, but they should just shut up about it? No.. I am saying they can only debate on their own narrow views, terrified of challenge or different views and for some oddball reason promote some weird cancel culture... " Why is it a problem for "wokes" to challenge racist views? | |||
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"The trouble with the wokes is that they pretend to applaud free speech yet if they are engaged with an alternative point of view then they can't close it down quick enough.. Free speech on their terms usually... Are you suggesting that "wokes" shouldn't be alert to injustice and racism? Or are you saying they can be, but they should just shut up about it? Can you read? They never said that... " I can read. I asked them for clarification. Is free speech only for people who are against non-racists? | |||
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"The trouble with the wokes is that they pretend to applaud free speech yet if they are engaged with an alternative point of view then they can't close it down quick enough.. Free speech on their terms usually... Are you suggesting that "wokes" shouldn't be alert to injustice and racism? Or are you saying they can be, but they should just shut up about it? No.. I am saying they can only debate on their own narrow views, terrified of challenge or different views and for some oddball reason promote some weird cancel culture... Why is it a problem for "wokes" to challenge racist views? The works challenge anything they perceive to be racist however ridiculous." Weird. Who should determine how racist something is before it can be challenged? It would be good to know when it's allowed to speak up, and when "the wokes" should stay quiet. | |||
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"The trouble with the wokes is that they pretend to applaud free speech yet if they are engaged with an alternative point of view then they can't close it down quick enough.. Free speech on their terms usually... Are you suggesting that "wokes" shouldn't be alert to injustice and racism? Or are you saying they can be, but they should just shut up about it? Can you read? They never said that... I can read. I asked them for clarification. Is free speech only for people who are against non-racists?" The wokes will find hate where non exists, racism where non exists, sexism where non exists...the list goes on... | |||
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"The trouble with the wokes is that they pretend to applaud free speech yet if they are engaged with an alternative point of view then they can't close it down quick enough.. Free speech on their terms usually... Are you suggesting that "wokes" shouldn't be alert to injustice and racism? Or are you saying they can be, but they should just shut up about it? No.. I am saying they can only debate on their own narrow views, terrified of challenge or different views and for some oddball reason promote some weird cancel culture... Why is it a problem for "wokes" to challenge racist views? The works challenge anything they perceive to be racist however ridiculous. Weird. Who should determine how racist something is before it can be challenged? It would be good to know when it's allowed to speak up, and when "the wokes" should stay quiet." The point is.. the wokes never stay quiet... | |||
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"The trouble with the wokes is that they pretend to applaud free speech yet if they are engaged with an alternative point of view then they can't close it down quick enough.. Free speech on their terms usually... Are you suggesting that "wokes" shouldn't be alert to injustice and racism? Or are you saying they can be, but they should just shut up about it? No.. I am saying they can only debate on their own narrow views, terrified of challenge or different views and for some oddball reason promote some weird cancel culture... Why is it a problem for "wokes" to challenge racist views? The works challenge anything they perceive to be racist however ridiculous. Weird. Who should determine how racist something is before it can be challenged? It would be good to know when it's allowed to speak up, and when "the wokes" should stay quiet. The point is.. the wokes never stay quiet..." Should freedom of speech apply to everyone except "the wokes"? | |||
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"The trouble with the wokes is that they pretend to applaud free speech yet if they are engaged with an alternative point of view then they can't close it down quick enough.. Free speech on their terms usually... Are you suggesting that "wokes" shouldn't be alert to injustice and racism? Or are you saying they can be, but they should just shut up about it? No.. I am saying they can only debate on their own narrow views, terrified of challenge or different views and for some oddball reason promote some weird cancel culture... Why is it a problem for "wokes" to challenge racist views?" Why are you so racist? | |||
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"The trouble with the wokes is that they pretend to applaud free speech yet if they are engaged with an alternative point of view then they can't close it down quick enough.. Free speech on their terms usually... Are you suggesting that "wokes" shouldn't be alert to injustice and racism? Or are you saying they can be, but they should just shut up about it? No.. I am saying they can only debate on their own narrow views, terrified of challenge or different views and for some oddball reason promote some weird cancel culture... Why is it a problem for "wokes" to challenge racist views? The works challenge anything they perceive to be racist however ridiculous. Weird. Who should determine how racist something is before it can be challenged? It would be good to know when it's allowed to speak up, and when "the wokes" should stay quiet. The point is.. the wokes never stay quiet... Should freedom of speech apply to everyone except "the wokes"?" Why do you eat sheep? | |||
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"The trouble with the wokes is that they pretend to applaud free speech yet if they are engaged with an alternative point of view then they can't close it down quick enough.. Free speech on their terms usually... Are you suggesting that "wokes" shouldn't be alert to injustice and racism? Or are you saying they can be, but they should just shut up about it? No.. I am saying they can only debate on their own narrow views, terrified of challenge or different views and for some oddball reason promote some weird cancel culture... Why is it a problem for "wokes" to challenge racist views? The works challenge anything they perceive to be racist however ridiculous. Weird. Who should determine how racist something is before it can be challenged? It would be good to know when it's allowed to speak up, and when "the wokes" should stay quiet. The point is.. the wokes never stay quiet... Should freedom of speech apply to everyone except "the wokes"?" Wokes do not want freedom of speech...they only want their version of the truth... Even on here...if they don't agree then people are told they are derailing a thread.. | |||
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"The trouble with the wokes is that they pretend to applaud free speech yet if they are engaged with an alternative point of view then they can't close it down quick enough.. Free speech on their terms usually... Are you suggesting that "wokes" shouldn't be alert to injustice and racism? Or are you saying they can be, but they should just shut up about it? No.. I am saying they can only debate on their own narrow views, terrified of challenge or different views and for some oddball reason promote some weird cancel culture... Why is it a problem for "wokes" to challenge racist views? Why are you so racist?" I'm not. | |||
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"The trouble with the wokes is that they pretend to applaud free speech yet if they are engaged with an alternative point of view then they can't close it down quick enough.. Free speech on their terms usually... Are you suggesting that "wokes" shouldn't be alert to injustice and racism? Or are you saying they can be, but they should just shut up about it? No.. I am saying they can only debate on their own narrow views, terrified of challenge or different views and for some oddball reason promote some weird cancel culture... Why is it a problem for "wokes" to challenge racist views? Why are you so racist? I'm not." That's what you say! Where's your proof! Sorry, just talking shit again | |||
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"The trouble with the wokes is that they pretend to applaud free speech yet if they are engaged with an alternative point of view then they can't close it down quick enough.. Free speech on their terms usually... Are you suggesting that "wokes" shouldn't be alert to injustice and racism? Or are you saying they can be, but they should just shut up about it? No.. I am saying they can only debate on their own narrow views, terrified of challenge or different views and for some oddball reason promote some weird cancel culture... Why is it a problem for "wokes" to challenge racist views? The works challenge anything they perceive to be racist however ridiculous. Weird. Who should determine how racist something is before it can be challenged? It would be good to know when it's allowed to speak up, and when "the wokes" should stay quiet. The point is.. the wokes never stay quiet... Should freedom of speech apply to everyone except "the wokes"? Wokes do not want freedom of speech...they only want their version of the truth... Even on here...if they don't agree then people are told they are derailing a thread.. " So what do you suggest "the wokes" do? | |||
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"The trouble with the wokes is that they pretend to applaud free speech yet if they are engaged with an alternative point of view then they can't close it down quick enough.. Free speech on their terms usually... Are you suggesting that "wokes" shouldn't be alert to injustice and racism? Or are you saying they can be, but they should just shut up about it? No.. I am saying they can only debate on their own narrow views, terrified of challenge or different views and for some oddball reason promote some weird cancel culture... Why is it a problem for "wokes" to challenge racist views? Why are you so racist? I'm not. That's what you say! Where's your proof! Sorry, just talking shit again" Just trying to get some clarification from the chap implying that non-racists should not have freedom of speech. | |||
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"The trouble with the wokes is that they pretend to applaud free speech yet if they are engaged with an alternative point of view then they can't close it down quick enough.. Free speech on their terms usually... Are you suggesting that "wokes" shouldn't be alert to injustice and racism? Or are you saying they can be, but they should just shut up about it? No.. I am saying they can only debate on their own narrow views, terrified of challenge or different views and for some oddball reason promote some weird cancel culture... Why is it a problem for "wokes" to challenge racist views? The works challenge anything they perceive to be racist however ridiculous. Weird. Who should determine how racist something is before it can be challenged? It would be good to know when it's allowed to speak up, and when "the wokes" should stay quiet. The point is.. the wokes never stay quiet... Should freedom of speech apply to everyone except "the wokes"? Wokes do not want freedom of speech...they only want their version of the truth... Even on here...if they don't agree then people are told they are derailing a thread.. " Exactly | |||
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"The trouble with the wokes is that they pretend to applaud free speech yet if they are engaged with an alternative point of view then they can't close it down quick enough.. Free speech on their terms usually... Are you suggesting that "wokes" shouldn't be alert to injustice and racism? Or are you saying they can be, but they should just shut up about it? No.. I am saying they can only debate on their own narrow views, terrified of challenge or different views and for some oddball reason promote some weird cancel culture... Why is it a problem for "wokes" to challenge racist views? Why are you so racist? I'm not. That's what you say! Where's your proof! Sorry, just talking shit again Just trying to get some clarification from the chap implying that non-racists should not have freedom of speech. " Who are you accusing of being racist? Name them and give reason why | |||
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"The trouble with the wokes is that they pretend to applaud free speech yet if they are engaged with an alternative point of view then they can't close it down quick enough.. Free speech on their terms usually... Are you suggesting that "wokes" shouldn't be alert to injustice and racism? Or are you saying they can be, but they should just shut up about it? No.. I am saying they can only debate on their own narrow views, terrified of challenge or different views and for some oddball reason promote some weird cancel culture... Why is it a problem for "wokes" to challenge racist views? Why are you so racist? I'm not. That's what you say! Where's your proof! Sorry, just talking shit again Just trying to get some clarification from the chap implying that non-racists should not have freedom of speech. Who are you accusing of being racist? Name them and give reason why" I'm not accusing anyone of being racist. What on earth are you talking about? | |||
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"The trouble with the wokes is that they pretend to applaud free speech yet if they are engaged with an alternative point of view then they can't close it down quick enough.. Free speech on their terms usually... Are you suggesting that "wokes" shouldn't be alert to injustice and racism? Or are you saying they can be, but they should just shut up about it? No.. I am saying they can only debate on their own narrow views, terrified of challenge or different views and for some oddball reason promote some weird cancel culture... Why is it a problem for "wokes" to challenge racist views? Why are you so racist? I'm not. That's what you say! Where's your proof! Sorry, just talking shit again Just trying to get some clarification from the chap implying that non-racists should not have freedom of speech. Who are you accusing of being racist? Name them and give reason why I'm not accusing anyone of being racist. What on earth are you talking about?" Well you know all the non racists apparently lol | |||
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"The trouble with the wokes is that they pretend to applaud free speech yet if they are engaged with an alternative point of view then they can't close it down quick enough.. Free speech on their terms usually... Are you suggesting that "wokes" shouldn't be alert to injustice and racism? Or are you saying they can be, but they should just shut up about it? No.. I am saying they can only debate on their own narrow views, terrified of challenge or different views and for some oddball reason promote some weird cancel culture... Why is it a problem for "wokes" to challenge racist views? Why are you so racist? I'm not. That's what you say! Where's your proof! Sorry, just talking shit again Just trying to get some clarification from the chap implying that non-racists should not have freedom of speech. Who are you accusing of being racist? Name them and give reason why I'm not accusing anyone of being racist. What on earth are you talking about?" Well you do keep on saying “why are you against non racists” to everyone who asks you to apply a little more thought and a little less recitation. | |||
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"The trouble with the wokes is that they pretend to applaud free speech yet if they are engaged with an alternative point of view then they can't close it down quick enough.. Free speech on their terms usually... Are you suggesting that "wokes" shouldn't be alert to injustice and racism? Or are you saying they can be, but they should just shut up about it? No.. I am saying they can only debate on their own narrow views, terrified of challenge or different views and for some oddball reason promote some weird cancel culture... Why is it a problem for "wokes" to challenge racist views? Why are you so racist? I'm not. That's what you say! Where's your proof! Sorry, just talking shit again Just trying to get some clarification from the chap implying that non-racists should not have freedom of speech. Who are you accusing of being racist? Name them and give reason why I'm not accusing anyone of being racist. What on earth are you talking about? Well you do keep on saying “why are you against non racists” to everyone who asks you to apply a little more thought and a little less recitation. " You and the other chap are both ranting about non-racist people causing all these problems. I'm just asking for some clarification. Seems reasonable to me. However if you guys prefer I can leave this thread to anti-anti-racists only. | |||
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"The trouble with the wokes is that they pretend to applaud free speech yet if they are engaged with an alternative point of view then they can't close it down quick enough.. Free speech on their terms usually... Are you suggesting that "wokes" shouldn't be alert to injustice and racism? Or are you saying they can be, but they should just shut up about it? No.. I am saying they can only debate on their own narrow views, terrified of challenge or different views and for some oddball reason promote some weird cancel culture... Why is it a problem for "wokes" to challenge racist views? Why are you so racist? I'm not. That's what you say! Where's your proof! Sorry, just talking shit again Just trying to get some clarification from the chap implying that non-racists should not have freedom of speech. Who are you accusing of being racist? Name them and give reason why I'm not accusing anyone of being racist. What on earth are you talking about? Well you do keep on saying “why are you against non racists” to everyone who asks you to apply a little more thought and a little less recitation. You and the other chap are both ranting about non-racist people causing all these problems. I'm just asking for some clarification. Seems reasonable to me. However if you guys prefer I can leave this thread to anti-anti-racists only. "Let it be so... | |||
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"The trouble with the wokes is that they pretend to applaud free speech yet if they are engaged with an alternative point of view then they can't close it down quick enough.. Free speech on their terms usually... Are you suggesting that "wokes" shouldn't be alert to injustice and racism? Or are you saying they can be, but they should just shut up about it? No.. I am saying they can only debate on their own narrow views, terrified of challenge or different views and for some oddball reason promote some weird cancel culture... Why is it a problem for "wokes" to challenge racist views? Why are you so racist? I'm not. That's what you say! Where's your proof! Sorry, just talking shit again Just trying to get some clarification from the chap implying that non-racists should not have freedom of speech. Who are you accusing of being racist? Name them and give reason why I'm not accusing anyone of being racist. What on earth are you talking about? Well you do keep on saying “why are you against non racists” to everyone who asks you to apply a little more thought and a little less recitation. You and the other chap are both ranting about non-racist people causing all these problems. I'm just asking for some clarification. Seems reasonable to me. However if you guys prefer I can leave this thread to anti-anti-racists only. "Who's ranting? Which bloke? You refer to non racists which means you must know who is and who isn't with your mysterious powers lol | |||
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"What tends to happen with the wokest of works is that any perceived slight is called hate speech, any comment on women's issues that throws up a challenge is called mysogeny... It's the woke card.. " My personal favourite is If you don’t think like me you must be a fascist!!! Its disturbing | |||
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"When children are leaving school full of knowledge about Isms and phobes and so on but can’t read or write properly or lack the ability to think critically you have to query what is going on. Good for her for being brave enough to challenge it. The woke culture does not appreciate being challenged based on what I see." Children are leaving school unable to read or write? Maybe the government - who have been responsible for education policy for the last 11 years - could do something about that. | |||
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"When children are leaving school full of knowledge about Isms and phobes and so on but can’t read or write properly or lack the ability to think critically you have to query what is going on. Good for her for being brave enough to challenge it. The woke culture does not appreciate being challenged based on what I see. Children are leaving school unable to read or write? Maybe the government - who have been responsible for education policy for the last 11 years - could do something about that. " Oh the irony | |||
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