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"N.i. unionist are a deluded shower of bigots, raceist nazies who think they are still living in the 17th century, so I would leave them out of any rational discussion you may be trying to develop " Unfortunately , Westminster & the Story party have needed them to Make controversial laws , win parliamentary majorities etc . A mere small percentage of the uk , controlling what was best for them & Not best for the U.K . | |||
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"N.i. unionist are a deluded shower of bigots, raceist nazies who think they are still living in the 17th century, so I would leave them out of any rational discussion you may be trying to develop Unfortunately , Westminster & the Story party have needed them to Make controversial laws , win parliamentary majorities etc . A mere small percentage of the uk , controlling what was best for them & Not best for the U.K .ya i agree with what you are saying about making deals, this is what democracy is all about, but these are the devil,and making deals with the devil is not a good way to go, i live in the Irish republic but spend a lot of time in northern Ireland for work and also social reasons, so I know, these dup are the worst breed of a bastard you will ever meet, forgive my French, but I cannot emphasize how bad these people are, make the KKK look like the womens association " | |||
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"Business has never been better and many remainers I know say they admit they were cretinous lily-livered pultroons for voting remain. "1) I doubt that there is even a single grain of truth in either of those assertions. But... 2) The question was about Leave voters who were lied to. Johnson and Gove lied to them to get their votes snd have now cast them off without a life belt. | |||
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"you are making a lot of assumptions there not all fishermen are affected just the Bivalvia fishermen not fishing in class A waters. People in spain have had plenty of time to sort their residency out so for them it is a case of cant be bothered or don't want to disclose there tax affairs to the Spanish authorities but they have had plenty of time. As for N ireland i dont know as dont live there but would think the disruption from the eu trying to cut off part of the UK will only strengthen their resolve . " Nothing to see here. Move along. Oh and if there is anything here, it's the EUs fault. | |||
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"you are making a lot of assumptions there not all fishermen are affected just the Bivalvia fishermen not fishing in class A waters. People in spain have had plenty of time to sort their residency out so for them it is a case of cant be bothered or don't want to disclose there tax affairs to the Spanish authorities but they have had plenty of time. As for N ireland i dont know as dont live there but would think the disruption from the eu trying to cut off part of the UK will only strengthen their resolve . Nothing to see here. Move along. Oh and if there is anything here, it's the EUs fault." Standard. | |||
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"you are making a lot of assumptions there not all fishermen are affected just the Bivalvia fishermen not fishing in class A waters. People in spain have had plenty of time to sort their residency out so for them it is a case of cant be bothered or don't want to disclose there tax affairs to the Spanish authorities but they have had plenty of time. As for N ireland i dont know as dont live there but would think the disruption from the eu trying to cut off part of the UK will only strengthen their resolve . " Pretty much every fisherman is affected Interms of overseas Brits, they were lied to about Brexit & stiffed by the Govt in not being told what they had to do - we will now have several hundred thousand expat Brits to cope with - France & Spain and others NI has been screwed by Boris, not the EU. The border down the Irish Sea is his idea So 3 things that could have been resolved had we had some talend in Govt. 3 things that were not sharedcwith voters - I believe it was labelled ‘Project Fear’ - instead it was Project Truth, the liars just bullshitted past it and people fell for it. | |||
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"you are making a lot of assumptions there not all fishermen are affected just the Bivalvia fishermen not fishing in class A waters. People in spain have had plenty of time to sort their residency out so for them it is a case of cant be bothered or don't want to disclose there tax affairs to the Spanish authorities but they have had plenty of time. As for N ireland i dont know as dont live there but would think the disruption from the eu trying to cut off part of the UK will only strengthen their resolve . Pretty much every fisherman is affected Interms of overseas Brits, they were lied to about Brexit & stiffed by the Govt in not being told what they had to do - we will now have several hundred thousand expat Brits to cope with - France & Spain and others NI has been screwed by Boris, not the EU. The border down the Irish Sea is his idea So 3 things that could have been resolved had we had some talend in Govt. 3 things that were not sharedcwith voters - I believe it was labelled ‘Project Fear’ - instead it was Project Truth, the liars just bullshitted past it and people fell for it." "Several hundred thousand expats" coming back? Bet you a tenner that doesn't happen. Ridiculous claim. After all the digging the papers have done they've turned up one couple who didn't do a simple bit of paperwork and who might come back. Incidentally quite a few expats always did end up coming back when we were in the EU, I know two personally, mainly to use the NHS. Probably their best chance of a jab as well. | |||
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"you are making a lot of assumptions there not all fishermen are affected just the Bivalvia fishermen not fishing in class A waters. People in spain have had plenty of time to sort their residency out so for them it is a case of cant be bothered or don't want to disclose there tax affairs to the Spanish authorities but they have had plenty of time. As for N ireland i dont know as dont live there but would think the disruption from the eu trying to cut off part of the UK will only strengthen their resolve . Pretty much every fisherman is affected Interms of overseas Brits, they were lied to about Brexit & stiffed by the Govt in not being told what they had to do - we will now have several hundred thousand expat Brits to cope with - France & Spain and others NI has been screwed by Boris, not the EU. The border down the Irish Sea is his idea So 3 things that could have been resolved had we had some talend in Govt. 3 things that were not sharedcwith voters - I believe it was labelled ‘Project Fear’ - instead it was Project Truth, the liars just bullshitted past it and people fell for it. "Several hundred thousand expats" coming back? Bet you a tenner that doesn't happen. Ridiculous claim. After all the digging the papers have done they've turned up one couple who didn't do a simple bit of paperwork and who might come back. Incidentally quite a few expats always did end up coming back when we were in the EU, I know two personally, mainly to use the NHS. Probably their best chance of a jab as well. " As many of them cannot prove £2000 per month into a Spanish bank account plus £500 per family member, I think you are wrong. Claiming residency isn’t just filling a form in. So it is way more than 1 person - typical Brexit lies as usual  | |||
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"you are making a lot of assumptions there not all fishermen are affected just the Bivalvia fishermen not fishing in class A waters. People in spain have had plenty of time to sort their residency out so for them it is a case of cant be bothered or don't want to disclose there tax affairs to the Spanish authorities but they have had plenty of time. As for N ireland i dont know as dont live there but would think the disruption from the eu trying to cut off part of the UK will only strengthen their resolve . Pretty much every fisherman is affected Interms of overseas Brits, they were lied to about Brexit & stiffed by the Govt in not being told what they had to do - we will now have several hundred thousand expat Brits to cope with - France & Spain and others NI has been screwed by Boris, not the EU. The border down the Irish Sea is his idea So 3 things that could have been resolved had we had some talend in Govt. 3 things that were not sharedcwith voters - I believe it was labelled ‘Project Fear’ - instead it was Project Truth, the liars just bullshitted past it and people fell for it. "Several hundred thousand expats" coming back? Bet you a tenner that doesn't happen. Ridiculous claim. After all the digging the papers have done they've turned up one couple who didn't do a simple bit of paperwork and who might come back. Incidentally quite a few expats always did end up coming back when we were in the EU, I know two personally, mainly to use the NHS. Probably their best chance of a jab as well. As many of them cannot prove £2000 per month into a Spanish bank account plus £500 per family member, I think you are wrong. Claiming residency isn’t just filling a form in. So it is way more than 1 person - typical Brexit lies as usual "Go on then, show me one other example apart from those two who didn't do the paperwork. I'm waiting.  | |||
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"you are making a lot of assumptions there not all fishermen are affected just the Bivalvia fishermen not fishing in class A waters. People in spain have had plenty of time to sort their residency out so for them it is a case of cant be bothered or don't want to disclose there tax affairs to the Spanish authorities but they have had plenty of time. As for N ireland i dont know as dont live there but would think the disruption from the eu trying to cut off part of the UK will only strengthen their resolve . Pretty much every fisherman is affected Interms of overseas Brits, they were lied to about Brexit & stiffed by the Govt in not being told what they had to do - we will now have several hundred thousand expat Brits to cope with - France & Spain and others NI has been screwed by Boris, not the EU. The border down the Irish Sea is his idea So 3 things that could have been resolved had we had some talend in Govt. 3 things that were not sharedcwith voters - I believe it was labelled ‘Project Fear’ - instead it was Project Truth, the liars just bullshitted past it and people fell for it. "Several hundred thousand expats" coming back? Bet you a tenner that doesn't happen. Ridiculous claim. After all the digging the papers have done they've turned up one couple who didn't do a simple bit of paperwork and who might come back. Incidentally quite a few expats always did end up coming back when we were in the EU, I know two personally, mainly to use the NHS. Probably their best chance of a jab as well. As many of them cannot prove £2000 per month into a Spanish bank account plus £500 per family member, I think you are wrong. Claiming residency isn’t just filling a form in. So it is way more than 1 person - typical Brexit lies as usual
Go on then, show me one other example apart from those two who didn't do the paperwork. I'm waiting. "Why do I need to? It is Brexit rules - Boris rules
And just to ad to the woe, Cheesemakers are also screwed exporting to the EU, due to £180 Vet Certification on each order. Don’t blame the EU again, Boris signed the deal.
Many small businesses have suspended or given up exports to the EU as well.
It is going so, so well - just like we were promised by Leavers - land of milk & honey, if you are a chum of a Tory MP  | |||
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"So we had a Brexit referendum and the vote was 52/48 to leave the EU. We have now left. In the real world, N Ireland Unionists, the fishing industry, the food and drinks industry, drop-shippers and many ex-pats in Spain now regret voting to leave on account of how “leaving” has actually impacted them - as opposed to how it was promised to them. Surely, leaving the EU should not be detrimentally affecting the very people who voted for it should it? If we think that these people should have known what they were voting for - how much blame do we attach to those who convinced them to vote against their best interest? " Grow up | |||
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"you are making a lot of assumptions there not all fishermen are affected just the Bivalvia fishermen not fishing in class A waters. People in spain have had plenty of time to sort their residency out so for them it is a case of cant be bothered or don't want to disclose there tax affairs to the Spanish authorities but they have had plenty of time. As for N ireland i dont know as dont live there but would think the disruption from the eu trying to cut off part of the UK will only strengthen their resolve . Pretty much every fisherman is affected Interms of overseas Brits, they were lied to about Brexit & stiffed by the Govt in not being told what they had to do - we will now have several hundred thousand expat Brits to cope with - France & Spain and others NI has been screwed by Boris, not the EU. The border down the Irish Sea is his idea So 3 things that could have been resolved had we had some talend in Govt. 3 things that were not sharedcwith voters - I believe it was labelled ‘Project Fear’ - instead it was Project Truth, the liars just bullshitted past it and people fell for it. "Several hundred thousand expats" coming back? Bet you a tenner that doesn't happen. Ridiculous claim. After all the digging the papers have done they've turned up one couple who didn't do a simple bit of paperwork and who might come back. Incidentally quite a few expats always did end up coming back when we were in the EU, I know two personally, mainly to use the NHS. Probably their best chance of a jab as well. As many of them cannot prove £2000 per month into a Spanish bank account plus £500 per family member, I think you are wrong. Claiming residency isn’t just filling a form in. So it is way more than 1 person - typical Brexit lies as usual
Go on then, show me one other example apart from those two who didn't do the paperwork. I'm waiting.
Why do I need to? It is Brexit rules - Boris rules
And just to ad to the woe, Cheesemakers are also screwed exporting to the EU, due to £180 Vet Certification on each order. Don’t blame the EU again, Boris signed the deal.
Many small businesses have suspended or given up exports to the EU as well.
It is going so, so well - just like we were promised by Leavers - land of milk & honey, if you are a chum of a Tory MP "Right so the claim of hundreds of thousands coming back was slightly inaccurate to the tune of hundred of thousands. Got it  | |||
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"you are making a lot of assumptions there not all fishermen are affected just the Bivalvia fishermen not fishing in class A waters. People in spain have had plenty of time to sort their residency out so for them it is a case of cant be bothered or don't want to disclose there tax affairs to the Spanish authorities but they have had plenty of time. As for N ireland i dont know as dont live there but would think the disruption from the eu trying to cut off part of the UK will only strengthen their resolve . Pretty much every fisherman is affected Interms of overseas Brits, they were lied to about Brexit & stiffed by the Govt in not being told what they had to do - we will now have several hundred thousand expat Brits to cope with - France & Spain and others NI has been screwed by Boris, not the EU. The border down the Irish Sea is his idea So 3 things that could have been resolved had we had some talend in Govt. 3 things that were not sharedcwith voters - I believe it was labelled ‘Project Fear’ - instead it was Project Truth, the liars just bullshitted past it and people fell for it. "Several hundred thousand expats" coming back? Bet you a tenner that doesn't happen. Ridiculous claim. After all the digging the papers have done they've turned up one couple who didn't do a simple bit of paperwork and who might come back. Incidentally quite a few expats always did end up coming back when we were in the EU, I know two personally, mainly to use the NHS. Probably their best chance of a jab as well. As many of them cannot prove £2000 per month into a Spanish bank account plus £500 per family member, I think you are wrong. Claiming residency isn’t just filling a form in. So it is way more than 1 person - typical Brexit lies as usual "What is wrong with proving you can support yourself and family while living in a foreign country? Pretty much every fisherman is affected by new paperwork not from trading. It seems to me with the lack of new posts remainers are running out of things to moan about and very soon they will accept the fact we have left and get on building a better future. | |||
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"you are making a lot of assumptions there not all fishermen are affected just the Bivalvia fishermen not fishing in class A waters. People in spain have had plenty of time to sort their residency out so for them it is a case of cant be bothered or don't want to disclose there tax affairs to the Spanish authorities but they have had plenty of time. As for N ireland i dont know as dont live there but would think the disruption from the eu trying to cut off part of the UK will only strengthen their resolve . Pretty much every fisherman is affected Interms of overseas Brits, they were lied to about Brexit & stiffed by the Govt in not being told what they had to do - we will now have several hundred thousand expat Brits to cope with - France & Spain and others NI has been screwed by Boris, not the EU. The border down the Irish Sea is his idea So 3 things that could have been resolved had we had some talend in Govt. 3 things that were not sharedcwith voters - I believe it was labelled ‘Project Fear’ - instead it was Project Truth, the liars just bullshitted past it and people fell for it. "Several hundred thousand expats" coming back? Bet you a tenner that doesn't happen. Ridiculous claim. After all the digging the papers have done they've turned up one couple who didn't do a simple bit of paperwork and who might come back. Incidentally quite a few expats always did end up coming back when we were in the EU, I know two personally, mainly to use the NHS. Probably their best chance of a jab as well. As many of them cannot prove £2000 per month into a Spanish bank account plus £500 per family member, I think you are wrong. Claiming residency isn’t just filling a form in. So it is way more than 1 person - typical Brexit lies as usual What is wrong with proving you can support yourself and family while living in a foreign country? Pretty much every fisherman is affected by new paperwork not from trading.
It seems to me with the lack of new posts remainers are running out of things to moan about and very soon they will accept the fact we have left and get on building a better future."I detected that remainers had lost their spunk last month. The campaign to Rejoin fell on its arse don't think they've even got a functioning website yet. Their salt keeps me going so it's a bit sad. | |||
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"you are making a lot of assumptions there not all fishermen are affected just the Bivalvia fishermen not fishing in class A waters. People in spain have had plenty of time to sort their residency out so for them it is a case of cant be bothered or don't want to disclose there tax affairs to the Spanish authorities but they have had plenty of time. As for N ireland i dont know as dont live there but would think the disruption from the eu trying to cut off part of the UK will only strengthen their resolve . Pretty much every fisherman is affected Interms of overseas Brits, they were lied to about Brexit & stiffed by the Govt in not being told what they had to do - we will now have several hundred thousand expat Brits to cope with - France & Spain and others NI has been screwed by Boris, not the EU. The border down the Irish Sea is his idea So 3 things that could have been resolved had we had some talend in Govt. 3 things that were not sharedcwith voters - I believe it was labelled ‘Project Fear’ - instead it was Project Truth, the liars just bullshitted past it and people fell for it. "Several hundred thousand expats" coming back? Bet you a tenner that doesn't happen. Ridiculous claim. After all the digging the papers have done they've turned up one couple who didn't do a simple bit of paperwork and who might come back. Incidentally quite a few expats always did end up coming back when we were in the EU, I know two personally, mainly to use the NHS. Probably their best chance of a jab as well. As many of them cannot prove £2000 per month into a Spanish bank account plus £500 per family member, I think you are wrong. Claiming residency isn’t just filling a form in. So it is way more than 1 person - typical Brexit lies as usual What is wrong with proving you can support yourself and family while living in a foreign country? Pretty much every fisherman is affected by new paperwork not from trading.
It seems to me with the lack of new posts remainers are running out of things to moan about and very soon they will accept the fact we have left and get on building a better future."Haven't seen anyone not accept that we've left. Has there been any indication yet of an upside to brexit yet? Or is it still the same clusterfuck it's been since day one? | |||
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"Totally accept we’ve left, equally obvious the British population were lied to and Brexit is a total fuck up. I am being very patriotic because I am pointing out the Emperor is naked! Just doubling down on the lies, as many Leavers do is unpatriotic "Brussels has not had its accounts signed off for 17 years in a row. Seems like a bit of a lie to me. Oh and calling private jets "air taxis". Got to hand it to Ursula and Barnier, that's a pretty smart lie. | |||
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"So we had a Brexit referendum and the vote was 52/48 to leave the EU. We have now left. In the real world, N Ireland Unionists, the fishing industry, the food and drinks industry, drop-shippers and many ex-pats in Spain now regret voting to leave on account of how “leaving” has actually impacted them - as opposed to how it was promised to them. Surely, leaving the EU should not be detrimentally affecting the very people who voted for it should it? If we think that these people should have known what they were voting for - how much blame do we attach to those who convinced them to vote against their best interest? " can I just ask was it a bottling factory you where opening in Liverpool or did you open it in Holland it may of been another country it was a while back and how is it going ? | |||
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"Totally accept we’ve left, equally obvious the British population were lied to and Brexit is a total fuck up. I am being very patriotic because I am pointing out the Emperor is naked! Just doubling down on the lies, as many Leavers do is unpatriotic
Brussels has not had its accounts signed off for 17 years in a row. Seems like a bit of a lie to me.
Oh and calling private jets "air taxis". Got to hand it to Ursula and Barnier, that's a pretty smart lie. "Nothing to add to the conversation about brexit then? | |||
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"you are making a lot of assumptions there not all fishermen are affected just the Bivalvia fishermen not fishing in class A waters. People in spain have had plenty of time to sort their residency out so for them it is a case of cant be bothered or don't want to disclose there tax affairs to the Spanish authorities but they have had plenty of time. As for N ireland i dont know as dont live there but would think the disruption from the eu trying to cut off part of the UK will only strengthen their resolve . Pretty much every fisherman is affected Interms of overseas Brits, they were lied to about Brexit & stiffed by the Govt in not being told what they had to do - we will now have several hundred thousand expat Brits to cope with - France & Spain and others NI has been screwed by Boris, not the EU. The border down the Irish Sea is his idea So 3 things that could have been resolved had we had some talend in Govt. 3 things that were not sharedcwith voters - I believe it was labelled ‘Project Fear’ - instead it was Project Truth, the liars just bullshitted past it and people fell for it. "Several hundred thousand expats" coming back? Bet you a tenner that doesn't happen. Ridiculous claim. After all the digging the papers have done they've turned up one couple who didn't do a simple bit of paperwork and who might come back. Incidentally quite a few expats always did end up coming back when we were in the EU, I know two personally, mainly to use the NHS. Probably their best chance of a jab as well. As many of them cannot prove £2000 per month into a Spanish bank account plus £500 per family member, I think you are wrong. Claiming residency isn’t just filling a form in. So it is way more than 1 person - typical Brexit lies as usual What is wrong with proving you can support yourself and family while living in a foreign country? Pretty much every fisherman is affected by new paperwork not from trading.
It seems to me with the lack of new posts remainers are running out of things to moan about and very soon they will accept the fact we have left and get on building a better future.
Haven't seen anyone not accept that we've left.
Has there been any indication yet of an upside to brexit yet? Or is it still the same clusterfuck it's been since day one?"id say it’s not going to good tbh but as we are slap in middle of the worst worlds pandemic in over a hundred years it’s a bit hard to judge | |||
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"Totally accept we’ve left, equally obvious the British population were lied to and Brexit is a total fuck up. I am being very patriotic because I am pointing out the Emperor is naked! Just doubling down on the lies, as many Leavers do is unpatriotic
Brussels has not had its accounts signed off for 17 years in a row. Seems like a bit of a lie to me.
Oh and calling private jets "air taxis". Got to hand it to Ursula and Barnier, that's a pretty smart lie.
Nothing to add to the conversation about brexit then?"About Brexit? Yep Pound soared to 1.18 Euros this morning!!!!! Champagne tonight Ain't it great  | |||
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"Totally accept we’ve left, equally obvious the British population were lied to and Brexit is a total fuck up. I am being very patriotic because I am pointing out the Emperor is naked! Just doubling down on the lies, as many Leavers do is unpatriotic
Brussels has not had its accounts signed off for 17 years in a row. Seems like a bit of a lie to me.
Oh and calling private jets "air taxis". Got to hand it to Ursula and Barnier, that's a pretty smart lie. "Boris 2 Jets Johnson & The EU’s Court of Auditors regularly “signs off”—in its own words—the reliability of the accounts themselves, and has given them a clean bill of health for the last decade. is your point a lie or just not looking at the facts? | |||
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"Totally accept we’ve left, equally obvious the British population were lied to and Brexit is a total fuck up. I am being very patriotic because I am pointing out the Emperor is naked! Just doubling down on the lies, as many Leavers do is unpatriotic
Brussels has not had its accounts signed off for 17 years in a row. Seems like a bit of a lie to me.
Oh and calling private jets "air taxis". Got to hand it to Ursula and Barnier, that's a pretty smart lie.
Nothing to add to the conversation about brexit then?
About Brexit?
Yep Pound soared to 1.18 Euros this morning!!!!!
Champagne tonight
Ain't it great "Pound still down in value. Is that related the the brexit lies? I suppose they said brexit would be good for the value of the pound. Evidently bullshit. | |||
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"Totally accept we’ve left, equally obvious the British population were lied to and Brexit is a total fuck up. I am being very patriotic because I am pointing out the Emperor is naked! Just doubling down on the lies, as many Leavers do is unpatriotic
Brussels has not had its accounts signed off for 17 years in a row. Seems like a bit of a lie to me.
Oh and calling private jets "air taxis". Got to hand it to Ursula and Barnier, that's a pretty smart lie.
Nothing to add to the conversation about brexit then?
About Brexit?
Yep Pound soared to 1.18 Euros this morning!!!!!
Champagne tonight
Ain't it great
Pound still down in value. Is that related the the brexit lies?
I suppose they said brexit would be good for the value of the pound. Evidently bullshit."are you putting all the negatives down to brexit / covid or a bit of both ? | |||
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"Totally accept we’ve left, equally obvious the British population were lied to and Brexit is a total fuck up. I am being very patriotic because I am pointing out the Emperor is naked! Just doubling down on the lies, as many Leavers do is unpatriotic
Brussels has not had its accounts signed off for 17 years in a row. Seems like a bit of a lie to me.
Oh and calling private jets "air taxis". Got to hand it to Ursula and Barnier, that's a pretty smart lie.
Nothing to add to the conversation about brexit then?
About Brexit?
Yep Pound soared to 1.18 Euros this morning!!!!!
Champagne tonight
Ain't it great
Pound still down in value. Is that related the the brexit lies?
I suppose they said brexit would be good for the value of the pound. Evidently bullshit.are you putting all the negatives down to brexit / covid or a bit of both ?"The pound dropped sharply the day after the referendum result. That's years before Covid. It's remained low since then. You can still choose to blame covid/remainers/EU etc. Your choice. | |||
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"So we had a Brexit referendum and the vote was 52/48 to leave the EU. We have now left. In the real world, N Ireland Unionists, the fishing industry, the food and drinks industry, drop-shippers and many ex-pats in Spain now regret voting to leave on account of how “leaving” has actually impacted them - as opposed to how it was promised to them. Surely, leaving the EU should not be detrimentally affecting the very people who voted for it should it? If we think that these people should have known what they were voting for - how much blame do we attach to those who convinced them to vote against their best interest? Grow up " Do you have anything constructive to add or is it just insults again? | |||
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"Totally accept we’ve left, equally obvious the British population were lied to and Brexit is a total fuck up. I am being very patriotic because I am pointing out the Emperor is naked! Just doubling down on the lies, as many Leavers do is unpatriotic
Brussels has not had its accounts signed off for 17 years in a row. Seems like a bit of a lie to me.
Oh and calling private jets "air taxis". Got to hand it to Ursula and Barnier, that's a pretty smart lie.
Nothing to add to the conversation about brexit then?
About Brexit?
Yep Pound soared to 1.18 Euros this morning!!!!!
Champagne tonight
Ain't it great "It is at 1.17 now, | |||
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"Totally accept we’ve left, equally obvious the British population were lied to and Brexit is a total fuck up. I am being very patriotic because I am pointing out the Emperor is naked! Just doubling down on the lies, as many Leavers do is unpatriotic
Brussels has not had its accounts signed off for 17 years in a row. Seems like a bit of a lie to me.
Oh and calling private jets "air taxis". Got to hand it to Ursula and Barnier, that's a pretty smart lie.
Boris 2 Jets Johnson & The EU’s Court of Auditors regularly “signs off”—in its own words—the reliability of the accounts themselves, and has given them a clean bill of health for the last decade. is your point a lie or just not looking at the facts? "I love facts From full fact.org, 2016 was the first time since 1994 the accounts were partially signed off: “This meant that, for the first time since 1994, the accounts were given a “qualified”, rather than “adverse”, opinion. The auditors found that: “A significant part of the 2016 expenditure audited was not affected by a material level of error”.” Still with 3.1% of the budget unaccounted for. https://fullfact.org/europe/did-auditors-sign-eu-budget/ Your apology would be most welcome. Any other facts I can help you with? | |||
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"Totally accept we’ve left, equally obvious the British population were lied to and Brexit is a total fuck up. I am being very patriotic because I am pointing out the Emperor is naked! Just doubling down on the lies, as many Leavers do is unpatriotic
Brussels has not had its accounts signed off for 17 years in a row. Seems like a bit of a lie to me.
Oh and calling private jets "air taxis". Got to hand it to Ursula and Barnier, that's a pretty smart lie.
Boris 2 Jets Johnson & The EU’s Court of Auditors regularly “signs off”—in its own words—the reliability of the accounts themselves, and has given them a clean bill of health for the last decade. is your point a lie or just not looking at the facts?
I love facts
From full fact.org, 2016 was the first time since 1994 the accounts were partially signed off:
“This meant that, for the first time since 1994, the accounts were given a “qualified”, rather than “adverse”, opinion. The auditors found that: “A significant part of the 2016 expenditure audited was not affected by a material level of error”.”
Still with 3.1% of the budget unaccounted for.
https://fullfact.org/europe/did-auditors-sign-eu-budget/
Your apology would be most welcome.
Any other facts I can help you with?"Nothing to add on the subject of brexit lies then? | |||
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"Totally accept we’ve left, equally obvious the British population were lied to and Brexit is a total fuck up. I am being very patriotic because I am pointing out the Emperor is naked! Just doubling down on the lies, as many Leavers do is unpatriotic
Brussels has not had its accounts signed off for 17 years in a row. Seems like a bit of a lie to me.
Oh and calling private jets "air taxis". Got to hand it to Ursula and Barnier, that's a pretty smart lie.
Boris 2 Jets Johnson & The EU’s Court of Auditors regularly “signs off”—in its own words—the reliability of the accounts themselves, and has given them a clean bill of health for the last decade. is your point a lie or just not looking at the facts?
I love facts
From full fact.org, 2016 was the first time since 1994 the accounts were partially signed off:
“This meant that, for the first time since 1994, the accounts were given a “qualified”, rather than “adverse”, opinion. The auditors found that: “A significant part of the 2016 expenditure audited was not affected by a material level of error”.”
Still with 3.1% of the budget unaccounted for.
https://fullfact.org/europe/did-auditors-sign-eu-budget/
Your apology would be most welcome.
Any other facts I can help you with?
Nothing to add on the subject of brexit lies then?"We’ve discussed this before. As an acknowledged intellectual and deep thinker, I paid no attention to any politicians claims during the referendum campaign. | |||
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" It seems to me with the lack of new posts remainers are running out of things to moan about and very soon they will accept the fact we have left and get on building a better future." So wrong. For me there's been so so many threads posted already that has highlighted the negatives and personal losses that Brexit has caused and with the total absence of positive Brexit threads I think remainers are so far in credit they haven't bothered to add insult to injury by sticking any more coins in the meter for a while | |||
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"This is rather a goof article explaining the lies of Brussels if you want to google it, for those who like facts: “This long history of corruption and fraud brings us to the case of Marta Andreason, who in 2002 was appointed the EU’s first Chief Accountant, the director responsible for budget execution and the EU’s accounting officer. From the start, Andreasen was critical of the EU’s accounting system for being open to fraud, criticisms she raised with her superior but to no effect. She voiced her doubts to Commissioner Michaele Schreyer and the Commission President Romano Prodi, and when she got no reply approached members of the EU Parliament’s Budget Control Committee. Because of her doubts, she refused to sign off the 2001 European Commission accounts and went public with her concerns. She suffered a similar fate to Paul van Buitenen before her, and was sacked for speaking out (“failure to show sufficient loyalty and respect”.) In reality she was fired for refusing to sign the account and embarrassing the Commission by letting the cat out of the bag about the extent of fraud.”" Are we just listing randomers who tell lies now? Dave from round the corner said he was buying a Merc. I saw him in a Ford Fiesta last week. | |||
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"you are making a lot of assumptions there not all fishermen are affected just the Bivalvia fishermen not fishing in class A waters. People in spain have had plenty of time to sort their residency out so for them it is a case of cant be bothered or don't want to disclose there tax affairs to the Spanish authorities but they have had plenty of time. As for N ireland i dont know as dont live there but would think the disruption from the eu trying to cut off part of the UK will only strengthen their resolve . " And yeah, what about those who want to retire to Spain or any other EU country in the future. Brexiters have f----d them over now. | |||
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" It seems to me with the lack of new posts remainers are running out of things to moan about and very soon they will accept the fact we have left and get on building a better future. So wrong. For me there's been so so many threads posted already that has highlighted the negatives and personal losses that Brexit has caused and with the total absence of positive Brexit threads I think remainers are so far in credit they haven't bothered to add insult to injury by sticking any more coins in the meter for a while "Can't recall any personal losses being stated at all. Remainers here use 99% anecdotal bloke down the pub stuff and the occasional couple of bits of paperwork for a tiny number of people. | |||
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"you are making a lot of assumptions there not all fishermen are affected just the Bivalvia fishermen not fishing in class A waters. People in spain have had plenty of time to sort their residency out so for them it is a case of cant be bothered or don't want to disclose there tax affairs to the Spanish authorities but they have had plenty of time. As for N ireland i dont know as dont live there but would think the disruption from the eu trying to cut off part of the UK will only strengthen their resolve . And yeah, what about those who want to retire to Spain or any other EU country in the future. Brexiters have f----d them over now. " They still can. They're just gonna have to now pay their taxes like the rest of us. Sounds good to me | |||
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"Totally accept we’ve left, equally obvious the British population were lied to and Brexit is a total fuck up. I am being very patriotic because I am pointing out the Emperor is naked! Just doubling down on the lies, as many Leavers do is unpatriotic
Brussels has not had its accounts signed off for 17 years in a row. Seems like a bit of a lie to me.
Oh and calling private jets "air taxis". Got to hand it to Ursula and Barnier, that's a pretty smart lie.
Boris 2 Jets Johnson & The EU’s Court of Auditors regularly “signs off”—in its own words—the reliability of the accounts themselves, and has given them a clean bill of health for the last decade. is your point a lie or just not looking at the facts?
I love facts
From full fact.org, 2016 was the first time since 1994 the accounts were partially signed off:
“This meant that, for the first time since 1994, the accounts were given a “qualified”, rather than “adverse”, opinion. The auditors found that: “A significant part of the 2016 expenditure audited was not affected by a material level of error”.”
Still with 3.1% of the budget unaccounted for.
https://fullfact.org/europe/did-auditors-sign-eu-budget/
Your apology would be most welcome.
Any other facts I can help you with?"As we are quoting from the same article in Fullfact I am happy to let them summarise - which was my earlier post. You seem fixated on EU failings, but you don’t bat an eyelid at UK failings - why is that? Grayling on his own spaffed more cash than the EU in terms of errors | |||
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"This is rather a goof article explaining the lies of Brussels if you want to google it, for those who like facts: “This long history of corruption and fraud brings us to the case of Marta Andreason, who in 2002 was appointed the EU’s first Chief Accountant, the director responsible for budget execution and the EU’s accounting officer. From the start, Andreasen was critical of the EU’s accounting system for being open to fraud, criticisms she raised with her superior but to no effect. She voiced her doubts to Commissioner Michaele Schreyer and the Commission President Romano Prodi, and when she got no reply approached members of the EU Parliament’s Budget Control Committee. Because of her doubts, she refused to sign off the 2001 European Commission accounts and went public with her concerns. She suffered a similar fate to Paul van Buitenen before her, and was sacked for speaking out (“failure to show sufficient loyalty and respect”.) In reality she was fired for refusing to sign the account and embarrassing the Commission by letting the cat out of the bag about the extent of fraud.”" | |||
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"Totally accept we’ve left, equally obvious the British population were lied to and Brexit is a total fuck up. I am being very patriotic because I am pointing out the Emperor is naked! Just doubling down on the lies, as many Leavers do is unpatriotic
Brussels has not had its accounts signed off for 17 years in a row. Seems like a bit of a lie to me.
Oh and calling private jets "air taxis". Got to hand it to Ursula and Barnier, that's a pretty smart lie.
Nothing to add to the conversation about brexit then?
About Brexit?
Yep Pound soared to 1.18 Euros this morning!!!!!
Champagne tonight
Ain't it great
Pound still down in value. Is that related the the brexit lies?
I suppose they said brexit would be good for the value of the pound. Evidently bullshit.are you putting all the negatives down to brexit / covid or a bit of both ?
The pound dropped sharply the day after the referendum result. That's years before Covid.
It's remained low since then.
You can still choose to blame covid/remainers/EU etc. Your choice."who and when do I blame anyone mate | |||
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"Let’s stick to the story... Thousands of people have been discarded by Johnson & Co after being lied to - simply to get their vote. The assurances that they were given about Brexit not only not harming them - but actually benefitting them - were false. We are just coming up to three months into a Brexit that contains no downsides, and only considerable upsides. Agri food - shat on Fisherman - thrown overboard Brits living in Europe - laughed at Dropshippers - who gives a fuck about them anyway Food exporters - Try selling elsewhere dickheads The numbers of people who were lied to in order to engineer a result that would give Boris power grows every day. " simple question zero answer just as I thought lol | |||
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" It seems to me with the lack of new posts remainers are running out of things to moan about and very soon they will accept the fact we have left and get on building a better future. So wrong. For me there's been so so many threads posted already that has highlighted the negatives and personal losses that Brexit has caused and with the total absence of positive Brexit threads I think remainers are so far in credit they haven't bothered to add insult to injury by sticking any more coins in the meter for a while
Can't recall any personal losses being stated at all.
Remainers here use 99% anecdotal bloke down the pub stuff and the occasional couple of bits of paperwork for a tiny number of people. "Personal losses as in people loosing their jobs, businesses closing down,that's very personal for those involved is it not? Other than that you must be looking at a different political forum than I because like much of what you type on here it just doesn't fit with reality. | |||
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"Totally accept we’ve left, equally obvious the British population were lied to and Brexit is a total fuck up. I am being very patriotic because I am pointing out the Emperor is naked! Just doubling down on the lies, as many Leavers do is unpatriotic
Brussels has not had its accounts signed off for 17 years in a row. Seems like a bit of a lie to me.
Oh and calling private jets "air taxis". Got to hand it to Ursula and Barnier, that's a pretty smart lie.
Nothing to add to the conversation about brexit then?
About Brexit?
Yep Pound soared to 1.18 Euros this morning!!!!!
Champagne tonight
Ain't it great
Pound still down in value. Is that related the the brexit lies?
I suppose they said brexit would be good for the value of the pound. Evidently bullshit.are you putting all the negatives down to brexit / covid or a bit of both ?
The pound dropped sharply the day after the referendum result. That's years before Covid.
It's remained low since then.
You can still choose to blame covid/remainers/EU etc. Your choice.who and when do I blame anyone mate "I'll rephrase. You can still choose to blame covid/remainers/EU etc, or not. | |||
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"Totally accept we’ve left, equally obvious the British population were lied to and Brexit is a total fuck up. I am being very patriotic because I am pointing out the Emperor is naked! Just doubling down on the lies, as many Leavers do is unpatriotic
Brussels has not had its accounts signed off for 17 years in a row. Seems like a bit of a lie to me.
Oh and calling private jets "air taxis". Got to hand it to Ursula and Barnier, that's a pretty smart lie.
Nothing to add to the conversation about brexit then?
About Brexit?
Yep Pound soared to 1.18 Euros this morning!!!!!
Champagne tonight
Ain't it great
Pound still down in value. Is that related the the brexit lies?
I suppose they said brexit would be good for the value of the pound. Evidently bullshit.are you putting all the negatives down to brexit / covid or a bit of both ?
The pound dropped sharply the day after the referendum result. That's years before Covid.
It's remained low since then.
You can still choose to blame covid/remainers/EU etc. Your choice.who and when do I blame anyone mate
I'll rephrase.
You can still choose to blame covid/remainers/EU etc, or not."ok that’s better as you well know I don’t blame covid/remainers/EU but crack on thinking that if it makes you feel better bud | |||
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"Totally accept we’ve left, equally obvious the British population were lied to and Brexit is a total fuck up. I am being very patriotic because I am pointing out the Emperor is naked! Just doubling down on the lies, as many Leavers do is unpatriotic
Brussels has not had its accounts signed off for 17 years in a row. Seems like a bit of a lie to me.
Oh and calling private jets "air taxis". Got to hand it to Ursula and Barnier, that's a pretty smart lie.
Nothing to add to the conversation about brexit then?
About Brexit?
Yep Pound soared to 1.18 Euros this morning!!!!!
Champagne tonight
Ain't it great
Pound still down in value. Is that related the the brexit lies?
I suppose they said brexit would be good for the value of the pound. Evidently bullshit.are you putting all the negatives down to brexit / covid or a bit of both ?
The pound dropped sharply the day after the referendum result. That's years before Covid.
It's remained low since then.
You can still choose to blame covid/remainers/EU etc. Your choice.who and when do I blame anyone mate
I'll rephrase.
You can still choose to blame covid/remainers/EU etc, or not.ok that’s better as you well know I don’t blame covid/remainers/EU but crack on thinking that if it makes you feel better bud "So you've assumed I think something about you (I don't), then made fun of me for it. Where can you go from there. Sure, good job avoiding any discussion of the brexit lies. | |||
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"Totally accept we’ve left, equally obvious the British population were lied to and Brexit is a total fuck up. I am being very patriotic because I am pointing out the Emperor is naked! Just doubling down on the lies, as many Leavers do is unpatriotic
Brussels has not had its accounts signed off for 17 years in a row. Seems like a bit of a lie to me.
Oh and calling private jets "air taxis". Got to hand it to Ursula and Barnier, that's a pretty smart lie.
Nothing to add to the conversation about brexit then?
About Brexit?
Yep Pound soared to 1.18 Euros this morning!!!!!
Champagne tonight
Ain't it great
Pound still down in value. Is that related the the brexit lies?
I suppose they said brexit would be good for the value of the pound. Evidently bullshit.are you putting all the negatives down to brexit / covid or a bit of both ?
The pound dropped sharply the day after the referendum result. That's years before Covid.
It's remained low since then.
You can still choose to blame covid/remainers/EU etc. Your choice.who and when do I blame anyone mate
I'll rephrase.
You can still choose to blame covid/remainers/EU etc, or not.ok that’s better as you well know I don’t blame covid/remainers/EU but crack on thinking that if it makes you feel better bud
So you've assumed I think something about you (I don't), then made fun of me for it.
Where can you go from there.
Sure, good job avoiding any discussion of the brexit lies. "lol you said to me I can still choose to blame I asked when and who do I ever blame then said I made fun of you ffs where did I do that then lol o asked you a question do you think the negatives are all down to brexit or covid or a bit of both and you swerved it but that’s fine it’s your choice | |||
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"Totally accept we’ve left, equally obvious the British population were lied to and Brexit is a total fuck up. I am being very patriotic because I am pointing out the Emperor is naked! Just doubling down on the lies, as many Leavers do is unpatriotic
Brussels has not had its accounts signed off for 17 years in a row. Seems like a bit of a lie to me.
Oh and calling private jets "air taxis". Got to hand it to Ursula and Barnier, that's a pretty smart lie.
Nothing to add to the conversation about brexit then?
About Brexit?
Yep Pound soared to 1.18 Euros this morning!!!!!
Champagne tonight
Ain't it great
Pound still down in value. Is that related the the brexit lies?
I suppose they said brexit would be good for the value of the pound. Evidently bullshit.are you putting all the negatives down to brexit / covid or a bit of both ?
The pound dropped sharply the day after the referendum result. That's years before Covid.
It's remained low since then.
You can still choose to blame covid/remainers/EU etc. Your choice.who and when do I blame anyone mate
I'll rephrase.
You can still choose to blame covid/remainers/EU etc, or not.ok that’s better as you well know I don’t blame covid/remainers/EU but crack on thinking that if it makes you feel better bud
So you've assumed I think something about you (I don't), then made fun of me for it.
Where can you go from there.
Sure, good job avoiding any discussion of the brexit lies. lol you said to me I can still choose to blame I asked when and who do I ever blame then said I made fun of you ffs where did I do that then lol o asked you a question do you think the negatives are all down to brexit or covid or a bit of both and you swerved it but that’s fine it’s your choice "The context of your question was if I blamed things for brexit crashing the price of the pound. | |||
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"Totally accept we’ve left, equally obvious the British population were lied to and Brexit is a total fuck up. I am being very patriotic because I am pointing out the Emperor is naked! Just doubling down on the lies, as many Leavers do is unpatriotic
Brussels has not had its accounts signed off for 17 years in a row. Seems like a bit of a lie to me.
Oh and calling private jets "air taxis". Got to hand it to Ursula and Barnier, that's a pretty smart lie.
Nothing to add to the conversation about brexit then?
About Brexit?
Yep Pound soared to 1.18 Euros this morning!!!!!
Champagne tonight
Ain't it great
Pound still down in value. Is that related the the brexit lies?
I suppose they said brexit would be good for the value of the pound. Evidently bullshit.are you putting all the negatives down to brexit / covid or a bit of both ?
The pound dropped sharply the day after the referendum result. That's years before Covid.
It's remained low since then.
You can still choose to blame covid/remainers/EU etc. Your choice.who and when do I blame anyone mate
I'll rephrase.
You can still choose to blame covid/remainers/EU etc, or not.ok that’s better as you well know I don’t blame covid/remainers/EU but crack on thinking that if it makes you feel better bud
So you've assumed I think something about you (I don't), then made fun of me for it.
Where can you go from there.
Sure, good job avoiding any discussion of the brexit lies. lol you said to me I can still choose to blame I asked when and who do I ever blame then said I made fun of you ffs where did I do that then lol o asked you a question do you think the negatives are all down to brexit or covid or a bit of both and you swerved it but that’s fine it’s your choice
The context of your question was if I blamed things for brexit crashing the price of the pound.
"i never mentioned the pound mate I asked did you blame brexit on all the negatives or covid or both read it again o was talking about all the negatives ffs there’s plenty posted on here take your pic | |||
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"Totally accept we’ve left, equally obvious the British population were lied to and Brexit is a total fuck up. I am being very patriotic because I am pointing out the Emperor is naked! Just doubling down on the lies, as many Leavers do is unpatriotic
Brussels has not had its accounts signed off for 17 years in a row. Seems like a bit of a lie to me.
Oh and calling private jets "air taxis". Got to hand it to Ursula and Barnier, that's a pretty smart lie.
Nothing to add to the conversation about brexit then?
About Brexit?
Yep Pound soared to 1.18 Euros this morning!!!!!
Champagne tonight
Ain't it great
Pound still down in value. Is that related the the brexit lies?
I suppose they said brexit would be good for the value of the pound. Evidently bullshit.are you putting all the negatives down to brexit / covid or a bit of both ?
The pound dropped sharply the day after the referendum result. That's years before Covid.
It's remained low since then.
You can still choose to blame covid/remainers/EU etc. Your choice.who and when do I blame anyone mate
I'll rephrase.
You can still choose to blame covid/remainers/EU etc, or not.ok that’s better as you well know I don’t blame covid/remainers/EU but crack on thinking that if it makes you feel better bud
So you've assumed I think something about you (I don't), then made fun of me for it.
Where can you go from there.
Sure, good job avoiding any discussion of the brexit lies. lol you said to me I can still choose to blame I asked when and who do I ever blame then said I made fun of you ffs where did I do that then lol o asked you a question do you think the negatives are all down to brexit or covid or a bit of both and you swerved it but that’s fine it’s your choice
The context of your question was if I blamed things for brexit crashing the price of the pound.
i never mentioned the pound mate I asked did you blame brexit on all the negatives or covid or both read it again o was talking about all the negatives ffs there’s plenty posted on here take your pic "You replied to comments about brexit crashing the value of the pound. If you want to open up the discussion about what else is to blame for everything going on sure we can do that. Where do you want to start? | |||
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"Totally accept we’ve left, equally obvious the British population were lied to and Brexit is a total fuck up. I am being very patriotic because I am pointing out the Emperor is naked! Just doubling down on the lies, as many Leavers do is unpatriotic
Brussels has not had its accounts signed off for 17 years in a row. Seems like a bit of a lie to me.
Oh and calling private jets "air taxis". Got to hand it to Ursula and Barnier, that's a pretty smart lie.
Nothing to add to the conversation about brexit then?
About Brexit?
Yep Pound soared to 1.18 Euros this morning!!!!!
Champagne tonight
Ain't it great
Pound still down in value. Is that related the the brexit lies?
I suppose they said brexit would be good for the value of the pound. Evidently bullshit.are you putting all the negatives down to brexit / covid or a bit of both ?
The pound dropped sharply the day after the referendum result. That's years before Covid.
It's remained low since then.
You can still choose to blame covid/remainers/EU etc. Your choice.who and when do I blame anyone mate
I'll rephrase.
You can still choose to blame covid/remainers/EU etc, or not.ok that’s better as you well know I don’t blame covid/remainers/EU but crack on thinking that if it makes you feel better bud
So you've assumed I think something about you (I don't), then made fun of me for it.
Where can you go from there.
Sure, good job avoiding any discussion of the brexit lies. lol you said to me I can still choose to blame I asked when and who do I ever blame then said I made fun of you ffs where did I do that then lol o asked you a question do you think the negatives are all down to brexit or covid or a bit of both and you swerved it but that’s fine it’s your choice
The context of your question was if I blamed things for brexit crashing the price of the pound.
i never mentioned the pound mate I asked did you blame brexit on all the negatives or covid or both read it again o was talking about all the negatives ffs there’s plenty posted on here take your pic
You replied to comments about brexit crashing the value of the pound.
If you want to open up the discussion about what else is to blame for everything going on sure we can do that. Where do you want to start?"I blame remainers for wasting five years of everybody's time and money. | |||
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"Totally accept we’ve left, equally obvious the British population were lied to and Brexit is a total fuck up. I am being very patriotic because I am pointing out the Emperor is naked! Just doubling down on the lies, as many Leavers do is unpatriotic
Brussels has not had its accounts signed off for 17 years in a row. Seems like a bit of a lie to me.
Oh and calling private jets "air taxis". Got to hand it to Ursula and Barnier, that's a pretty smart lie.
Nothing to add to the conversation about brexit then?
About Brexit?
Yep Pound soared to 1.18 Euros this morning!!!!!
Champagne tonight
Ain't it great
Pound still down in value. Is that related the the brexit lies?
I suppose they said brexit would be good for the value of the pound. Evidently bullshit.are you putting all the negatives down to brexit / covid or a bit of both ?
The pound dropped sharply the day after the referendum result. That's years before Covid.
It's remained low since then.
You can still choose to blame covid/remainers/EU etc. Your choice.who and when do I blame anyone mate
I'll rephrase.
You can still choose to blame covid/remainers/EU etc, or not.ok that’s better as you well know I don’t blame covid/remainers/EU but crack on thinking that if it makes you feel better bud
So you've assumed I think something about you (I don't), then made fun of me for it.
Where can you go from there.
Sure, good job avoiding any discussion of the brexit lies. lol you said to me I can still choose to blame I asked when and who do I ever blame then said I made fun of you ffs where did I do that then lol o asked you a question do you think the negatives are all down to brexit or covid or a bit of both and you swerved it but that’s fine it’s your choice
The context of your question was if I blamed things for brexit crashing the price of the pound.
i never mentioned the pound mate I asked did you blame brexit on all the negatives or covid or both read it again o was talking about all the negatives ffs there’s plenty posted on here take your pic
You replied to comments about brexit crashing the value of the pound.
If you want to open up the discussion about what else is to blame for everything going on sure we can do that. Where do you want to start?
I blame remainers for wasting five years of everybody's time and money. "Remainers voted for brexit? Bizarre claim, even by your standards. | |||
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"Totally accept we’ve left, equally obvious the British population were lied to and Brexit is a total fuck up. I am being very patriotic because I am pointing out the Emperor is naked! Just doubling down on the lies, as many Leavers do is unpatriotic
Brussels has not had its accounts signed off for 17 years in a row. Seems like a bit of a lie to me.
Oh and calling private jets "air taxis". Got to hand it to Ursula and Barnier, that's a pretty smart lie.
Nothing to add to the conversation about brexit then?
About Brexit?
Yep Pound soared to 1.18 Euros this morning!!!!!
Champagne tonight
Ain't it great
Pound still down in value. Is that related the the brexit lies?
I suppose they said brexit would be good for the value of the pound. Evidently bullshit.are you putting all the negatives down to brexit / covid or a bit of both ?
The pound dropped sharply the day after the referendum result. That's years before Covid.
It's remained low since then.
You can still choose to blame covid/remainers/EU etc. Your choice.who and when do I blame anyone mate
I'll rephrase.
You can still choose to blame covid/remainers/EU etc, or not.ok that’s better as you well know I don’t blame covid/remainers/EU but crack on thinking that if it makes you feel better bud
So you've assumed I think something about you (I don't), then made fun of me for it.
Where can you go from there.
Sure, good job avoiding any discussion of the brexit lies. lol you said to me I can still choose to blame I asked when and who do I ever blame then said I made fun of you ffs where did I do that then lol o asked you a question do you think the negatives are all down to brexit or covid or a bit of both and you swerved it but that’s fine it’s your choice
The context of your question was if I blamed things for brexit crashing the price of the pound.
i never mentioned the pound mate I asked did you blame brexit on all the negatives or covid or both read it again o was talking about all the negatives ffs there’s plenty posted on here take your pic
You replied to comments about brexit crashing the value of the pound.
If you want to open up the discussion about what else is to blame for everything going on sure we can do that. Where do you want to start?"isn’t that what the op as done on this thread it’s about blame if you read his post it’s at the top he does t mention the pound mate | |||
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"Totally accept we’ve left, equally obvious the British population were lied to and Brexit is a total fuck up. I am being very patriotic because I am pointing out the Emperor is naked! Just doubling down on the lies, as many Leavers do is unpatriotic
Brussels has not had its accounts signed off for 17 years in a row. Seems like a bit of a lie to me.
Oh and calling private jets "air taxis". Got to hand it to Ursula and Barnier, that's a pretty smart lie.
Nothing to add to the conversation about brexit then?
About Brexit?
Yep Pound soared to 1.18 Euros this morning!!!!!
Champagne tonight
Ain't it great
Pound still down in value. Is that related the the brexit lies?
I suppose they said brexit would be good for the value of the pound. Evidently bullshit.are you putting all the negatives down to brexit / covid or a bit of both ?
The pound dropped sharply the day after the referendum result. That's years before Covid.
It's remained low since then.
You can still choose to blame covid/remainers/EU etc. Your choice.who and when do I blame anyone mate
I'll rephrase.
You can still choose to blame covid/remainers/EU etc, or not.ok that’s better as you well know I don’t blame covid/remainers/EU but crack on thinking that if it makes you feel better bud
So you've assumed I think something about you (I don't), then made fun of me for it.
Where can you go from there.
Sure, good job avoiding any discussion of the brexit lies. lol you said to me I can still choose to blame I asked when and who do I ever blame then said I made fun of you ffs where did I do that then lol o asked you a question do you think the negatives are all down to brexit or covid or a bit of both and you swerved it but that’s fine it’s your choice
The context of your question was if I blamed things for brexit crashing the price of the pound.
i never mentioned the pound mate I asked did you blame brexit on all the negatives or covid or both read it again o was talking about all the negatives ffs there’s plenty posted on here take your pic
You replied to comments about brexit crashing the value of the pound.
If you want to open up the discussion about what else is to blame for everything going on sure we can do that. Where do you want to start? isn’t that what the op as done on this thread it’s about blame if you read his post it’s at the top he does t mention the pound mate "It's clear we had a misunderstanding. What things that are going on do you want to know if are down to brexit or not? | |||
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"Totally accept we’ve left, equally obvious the British population were lied to and Brexit is a total fuck up. I am being very patriotic because I am pointing out the Emperor is naked! Just doubling down on the lies, as many Leavers do is unpatriotic
Brussels has not had its accounts signed off for 17 years in a row. Seems like a bit of a lie to me.
Oh and calling private jets "air taxis". Got to hand it to Ursula and Barnier, that's a pretty smart lie.
Nothing to add to the conversation about brexit then?
About Brexit?
Yep Pound soared to 1.18 Euros this morning!!!!!
Champagne tonight
Ain't it great
Pound still down in value. Is that related the the brexit lies?
I suppose they said brexit would be good for the value of the pound. Evidently bullshit.are you putting all the negatives down to brexit / covid or a bit of both ?
The pound dropped sharply the day after the referendum result. That's years before Covid.
It's remained low since then.
You can still choose to blame covid/remainers/EU etc. Your choice.who and when do I blame anyone mate
I'll rephrase.
You can still choose to blame covid/remainers/EU etc, or not.ok that’s better as you well know I don’t blame covid/remainers/EU but crack on thinking that if it makes you feel better bud
So you've assumed I think something about you (I don't), then made fun of me for it.
Where can you go from there.
Sure, good job avoiding any discussion of the brexit lies. lol you said to me I can still choose to blame I asked when and who do I ever blame then said I made fun of you ffs where did I do that then lol o asked you a question do you think the negatives are all down to brexit or covid or a bit of both and you swerved it but that’s fine it’s your choice
The context of your question was if I blamed things for brexit crashing the price of the pound.
i never mentioned the pound mate I asked did you blame brexit on all the negatives or covid or both read it again o was talking about all the negatives ffs there’s plenty posted on here take your pic
You replied to comments about brexit crashing the value of the pound.
If you want to open up the discussion about what else is to blame for everything going on sure we can do that. Where do you want to start? isn’t that what the op as done on this thread it’s about blame if you read his post it’s at the top he does t mention the pound mate
It's clear we had a misunderstanding.
What things that are going on do you want to know if are down to brexit or not?"any mate take your pic I’m just asking what do you think are down to brexit covid or a bit of both as it’s hard to nail down with a world wide pandemic going on | |||
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"Totally accept we’ve left, equally obvious the British population were lied to and Brexit is a total fuck up. I am being very patriotic because I am pointing out the Emperor is naked! Just doubling down on the lies, as many Leavers do is unpatriotic
Brussels has not had its accounts signed off for 17 years in a row. Seems like a bit of a lie to me.
Oh and calling private jets "air taxis". Got to hand it to Ursula and Barnier, that's a pretty smart lie.
Nothing to add to the conversation about brexit then?
About Brexit?
Yep Pound soared to 1.18 Euros this morning!!!!!
Champagne tonight
Ain't it great
Pound still down in value. Is that related the the brexit lies?
I suppose they said brexit would be good for the value of the pound. Evidently bullshit.are you putting all the negatives down to brexit / covid or a bit of both ?
The pound dropped sharply the day after the referendum result. That's years before Covid.
It's remained low since then.
You can still choose to blame covid/remainers/EU etc. Your choice.who and when do I blame anyone mate
I'll rephrase.
You can still choose to blame covid/remainers/EU etc, or not.ok that’s better as you well know I don’t blame covid/remainers/EU but crack on thinking that if it makes you feel better bud
So you've assumed I think something about you (I don't), then made fun of me for it.
Where can you go from there.
Sure, good job avoiding any discussion of the brexit lies. lol you said to me I can still choose to blame I asked when and who do I ever blame then said I made fun of you ffs where did I do that then lol o asked you a question do you think the negatives are all down to brexit or covid or a bit of both and you swerved it but that’s fine it’s your choice
The context of your question was if I blamed things for brexit crashing the price of the pound.
i never mentioned the pound mate I asked did you blame brexit on all the negatives or covid or both read it again o was talking about all the negatives ffs there’s plenty posted on here take your pic
You replied to comments about brexit crashing the value of the pound.
If you want to open up the discussion about what else is to blame for everything going on sure we can do that. Where do you want to start? isn’t that what the op as done on this thread it’s about blame if you read his post it’s at the top he does t mention the pound mate
It's clear we had a misunderstanding.
What things that are going on do you want to know if are down to brexit or not?
any mate take your pic I’m just asking what do you think are down to brexit covid or a bit of both as it’s hard to nail down with a world wide pandemic going on "Okay, I'll pick a few things, and my opinion if they're the fault of brexit and/or covid. You've left it open to anything, so it's hard to know what to include. The sun is shining, it's a beautiful day - Not caused by brexit or covid Got a stone in my shoe this morning, it was annoying - Not caused by brexit or covid The day after the referendum the value of the pound crashed - Brexit related Government awarded over £20 billion in contracts for PPE etc - Not caused by brexit or covid Government is pushing through new laws to give larger prison sentences for damaging a statue, than say attacking a woman alone at night - Not caused by brexit or covid What do you think about these things? Or pick some others maybe? Whatever you like. | |||
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"Totally accept we’ve left, equally obvious the British population were lied to and Brexit is a total fuck up. I am being very patriotic because I am pointing out the Emperor is naked! Just doubling down on the lies, as many Leavers do is unpatriotic
Brussels has not had its accounts signed off for 17 years in a row. Seems like a bit of a lie to me.
Oh and calling private jets "air taxis". Got to hand it to Ursula and Barnier, that's a pretty smart lie.
Nothing to add to the conversation about brexit then?
About Brexit?
Yep Pound soared to 1.18 Euros this morning!!!!!
Champagne tonight
Ain't it great
Pound still down in value. Is that related the the brexit lies?
I suppose they said brexit would be good for the value of the pound. Evidently bullshit.are you putting all the negatives down to brexit / covid or a bit of both ?
The pound dropped sharply the day after the referendum result. That's years before Covid.
It's remained low since then.
You can still choose to blame covid/remainers/EU etc. Your choice.who and when do I blame anyone mate
I'll rephrase.
You can still choose to blame covid/remainers/EU etc, or not.ok that’s better as you well know I don’t blame covid/remainers/EU but crack on thinking that if it makes you feel better bud
So you've assumed I think something about you (I don't), then made fun of me for it.
Where can you go from there.
Sure, good job avoiding any discussion of the brexit lies. lol you said to me I can still choose to blame I asked when and who do I ever blame then said I made fun of you ffs where did I do that then lol o asked you a question do you think the negatives are all down to brexit or covid or a bit of both and you swerved it but that’s fine it’s your choice
The context of your question was if I blamed things for brexit crashing the price of the pound.
i never mentioned the pound mate I asked did you blame brexit on all the negatives or covid or both read it again o was talking about all the negatives ffs there’s plenty posted on here take your pic
You replied to comments about brexit crashing the value of the pound.
If you want to open up the discussion about what else is to blame for everything going on sure we can do that. Where do you want to start? isn’t that what the op as done on this thread it’s about blame if you read his post it’s at the top he does t mention the pound mate
It's clear we had a misunderstanding.
What things that are going on do you want to know if are down to brexit or not?
any mate take your pic I’m just asking what do you think are down to brexit covid or a bit of both as it’s hard to nail down with a world wide pandemic going on
Okay, I'll pick a few things, and my opinion if they're the fault of brexit and/or covid. You've left it open to anything, so it's hard to know what to include.
The sun is shining, it's a beautiful day - Not caused by brexit or covid
Got a stone in my shoe this morning, it was annoying - Not caused by brexit or covid
The day after the referendum the value of the pound crashed - Brexit related
Government awarded over £20 billion in contracts for PPE etc - Not caused by brexit or covid
Government is pushing through new laws to give larger prison sentences for damaging a statue, than say attacking a woman alone at night - Not caused by brexit or covid
What do you think about these things? Or pick some others maybe? Whatever you like.
"sit down take the stone out of your shoe try enjoy a bit of sun while you can I won’t waste anymore time with this your obviously pissed of and in a bad mood enjoy yr ranting | |||
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"Totally accept we’ve left, equally obvious the British population were lied to and Brexit is a total fuck up. I am being very patriotic because I am pointing out the Emperor is naked! Just doubling down on the lies, as many Leavers do is unpatriotic
Brussels has not had its accounts signed off for 17 years in a row. Seems like a bit of a lie to me.
Oh and calling private jets "air taxis". Got to hand it to Ursula and Barnier, that's a pretty smart lie.
Nothing to add to the conversation about brexit then?
About Brexit?
Yep Pound soared to 1.18 Euros this morning!!!!!
Champagne tonight
Ain't it great
Pound still down in value. Is that related the the brexit lies?
I suppose they said brexit would be good for the value of the pound. Evidently bullshit.are you putting all the negatives down to brexit / covid or a bit of both ?
The pound dropped sharply the day after the referendum result. That's years before Covid.
It's remained low since then.
You can still choose to blame covid/remainers/EU etc. Your choice.who and when do I blame anyone mate
I'll rephrase.
You can still choose to blame covid/remainers/EU etc, or not.ok that’s better as you well know I don’t blame covid/remainers/EU but crack on thinking that if it makes you feel better bud
So you've assumed I think something about you (I don't), then made fun of me for it.
Where can you go from there.
Sure, good job avoiding any discussion of the brexit lies. lol you said to me I can still choose to blame I asked when and who do I ever blame then said I made fun of you ffs where did I do that then lol o asked you a question do you think the negatives are all down to brexit or covid or a bit of both and you swerved it but that’s fine it’s your choice
The context of your question was if I blamed things for brexit crashing the price of the pound.
i never mentioned the pound mate I asked did you blame brexit on all the negatives or covid or both read it again o was talking about all the negatives ffs there’s plenty posted on here take your pic
You replied to comments about brexit crashing the value of the pound.
If you want to open up the discussion about what else is to blame for everything going on sure we can do that. Where do you want to start? isn’t that what the op as done on this thread it’s about blame if you read his post it’s at the top he does t mention the pound mate
It's clear we had a misunderstanding.
What things that are going on do you want to know if are down to brexit or not?
any mate take your pic I’m just asking what do you think are down to brexit covid or a bit of both as it’s hard to nail down with a world wide pandemic going on
Okay, I'll pick a few things, and my opinion if they're the fault of brexit and/or covid. You've left it open to anything, so it's hard to know what to include.
The sun is shining, it's a beautiful day - Not caused by brexit or covid
Got a stone in my shoe this morning, it was annoying - Not caused by brexit or covid
The day after the referendum the value of the pound crashed - Brexit related
Government awarded over £20 billion in contracts for PPE etc - Not caused by brexit or covid
Government is pushing through new laws to give larger prison sentences for damaging a statue, than say attacking a woman alone at night - Not caused by brexit or covid
What do you think about these things? Or pick some others maybe? Whatever you like.
sit down take the stone out of your shoe try enjoy a bit of sun while you can I won’t waste anymore time with this your obviously pissed of and in a bad mood enjoy yr ranting "Good hustle. | |||
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"At the end of all that I am still none the wiser about the thousands of ex pats returning (as when the claimer was asked for proof it went quiet) or the EU accounts(as when given facts the claimer reverted to - it happens in the UK) Spain are not actively persuing overstaying ex-pats, and are not impressed by the reports in the UK press over the weekend. They will pick up any overstayers as part of day to day policing, much like what happens in this country. " I asked the op about his factory he was opening in Liverpool or the EU which he posted about last yr he failed to answer I think the blagger mite be him he used to post lots of silly stories lol | |||
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"At the end of all that I am still none the wiser about the thousands of ex pats returning (as when the claimer was asked for proof it went quiet) or the EU accounts(as when given facts the claimer reverted to - it happens in the UK) Spain are not actively persuing overstaying ex-pats, and are not impressed by the reports in the UK press over the weekend. They will pick up any overstayers as part of day to day policing, much like what happens in this country. I asked the op about his factory he was opening in Liverpool or the EU which he posted about last yr he failed to answer I think the blagger mite be him he used to post lots of silly stories lol" What? What are you talking about and what on earth do my personal business interests have to do with this thread? I didn’t vote to Leave because I saw through the bullshit - therefore my activities have the nothing to do with me being lied to, To be honest this seems a bit bunny boiling. | |||
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"At the end of all that I am still none the wiser about the thousands of ex pats returning (as when the claimer was asked for proof it went quiet) or the EU accounts(as when given facts the claimer reverted to - it happens in the UK) Spain are not actively persuing overstaying ex-pats, and are not impressed by the reports in the UK press over the weekend. They will pick up any overstayers as part of day to day policing, much like what happens in this country. I asked the op about his factory he was opening in Liverpool or the EU which he posted about last yr he failed to answer I think the blagger mite be him he used to post lots of silly stories lol What? What are you talking about and what on earth do my personal business interests have to do with this thread? I didn’t vote to Leave because I saw through the bullshit - therefore my activities have the nothing to do with me being lied to, To be honest this seems a bit bunny boiling." for gods sake I only asked how and where your bottling plant was doing it was you that spoke about it last year in here it’s fine if you don’t want to say was only a question | |||
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"At the end of all that I am still none the wiser about the thousands of ex pats returning (as when the claimer was asked for proof it went quiet) or the EU accounts(as when given facts the claimer reverted to - it happens in the UK) Spain are not actively persuing overstaying ex-pats, and are not impressed by the reports in the UK press over the weekend. They will pick up any overstayers as part of day to day policing, much like what happens in this country. I asked the op about his factory he was opening in Liverpool or the EU which he posted about last yr he failed to answer I think the blagger mite be him he used to post lots of silly stories lol What? What are you talking about and what on earth do my personal business interests have to do with this thread? I didn’t vote to Leave because I saw through the bullshit - therefore my activities have the nothing to do with me being lied to, To be honest this seems a bit bunny boiling." If your exports are up then just say so and we will celebrate with you, no judgement. | |||
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"At the end of all that I am still none the wiser about the thousands of ex pats returning (as when the claimer was asked for proof it went quiet) or the EU accounts(as when given facts the claimer reverted to - it happens in the UK) Spain are not actively persuing overstaying ex-pats, and are not impressed by the reports in the UK press over the weekend. They will pick up any overstayers as part of day to day policing, much like what happens in this country. I asked the op about his factory he was opening in Liverpool or the EU which he posted about last yr he failed to answer I think the blagger mite be him he used to post lots of silly stories lol What? What are you talking about and what on earth do my personal business interests have to do with this thread? I didn’t vote to Leave because I saw through the bullshit - therefore my activities have the nothing to do with me being lied to, To be honest this seems a bit bunny boiling. If your exports are up then just say so and we will celebrate with you, no judgement. " What do you sell Chris? Magics beans and unicorns? | |||
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"At the end of all that I am still none the wiser about the thousands of ex pats returning (as when the claimer was asked for proof it went quiet) or the EU accounts(as when given facts the claimer reverted to - it happens in the UK) Spain are not actively persuing overstaying ex-pats, and are not impressed by the reports in the UK press over the weekend. They will pick up any overstayers as part of day to day policing, much like what happens in this country. I asked the op about his factory he was opening in Liverpool or the EU which he posted about last yr he failed to answer I think the blagger mite be him he used to post lots of silly stories lol What? What are you talking about and what on earth do my personal business interests have to do with this thread? I didn’t vote to Leave because I saw through the bullshit - therefore my activities have the nothing to do with me being lied to, To be honest this seems a bit bunny boiling.for gods sake I only asked how and where your bottling plant was doing it was you that spoke about it last year in here it’s fine if you don’t want to say was only a question " As it happens we didn’t go ahead with it because my former business partner in the US decided that cannabis had a better future than alcohol and I no longer had the energy to go it alone with something so new, We blew about $20,000 before he got cold feet and that really pissed me off. | |||
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"At the end of all that I am still none the wiser about the thousands of ex pats returning (as when the claimer was asked for proof it went quiet) or the EU accounts(as when given facts the claimer reverted to - it happens in the UK) Spain are not actively persuing overstaying ex-pats, and are not impressed by the reports in the UK press over the weekend. They will pick up any overstayers as part of day to day policing, much like what happens in this country. I asked the op about his factory he was opening in Liverpool or the EU which he posted about last yr he failed to answer I think the blagger mite be him he used to post lots of silly stories lol What? What are you talking about and what on earth do my personal business interests have to do with this thread? I didn’t vote to Leave because I saw through the bullshit - therefore my activities have the nothing to do with me being lied to, To be honest this seems a bit bunny boiling. If your exports are up then just say so and we will celebrate with you, no judgement. What do you sell Chris? Magics beans and unicorns? " I sell Mensa tests | |||
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"At the end of all that I am still none the wiser about the thousands of ex pats returning (as when the claimer was asked for proof it went quiet) or the EU accounts(as when given facts the claimer reverted to - it happens in the UK) Spain are not actively persuing overstaying ex-pats, and are not impressed by the reports in the UK press over the weekend. They will pick up any overstayers as part of day to day policing, much like what happens in this country. I asked the op about his factory he was opening in Liverpool or the EU which he posted about last yr he failed to answer I think the blagger mite be him he used to post lots of silly stories lol What? What are you talking about and what on earth do my personal business interests have to do with this thread? I didn’t vote to Leave because I saw through the bullshit - therefore my activities have the nothing to do with me being lied to, To be honest this seems a bit bunny boiling.for gods sake I only asked how and where your bottling plant was doing it was you that spoke about it last year in here it’s fine if you don’t want to say was only a question As it happens we didn’t go ahead with it because my former business partner in the US decided that cannabis had a better future than alcohol and I no longer had the energy to go it alone with something so new, We blew about $20,000 before he got cold feet and that really pissed me off." it would of pissed me off aswell but tbh I think he was right cannabis does have a better future you maybe dodged a bullet there | |||
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" NI has been screwed by Boris, not the EU. The border down the Irish Sea is his idea " Can you keep pushing this.... leavers tend to go really, really silent when you tell this cold hard truth! This solution wasn’t even in the original Teresa may agreement and that was voted down by the hardline brexiteers in parliament The truth is they treat Northern Ireland as collateral damage | |||
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"At the end of all that I am still none the wiser about the thousands of ex pats returning (as when the claimer was asked for proof it went quiet) or the EU accounts(as when given facts the claimer reverted to - it happens in the UK) Spain are not actively persuing overstaying ex-pats, and are not impressed by the reports in the UK press over the weekend. They will pick up any overstayers as part of day to day policing, much like what happens in this country. I asked the op about his factory he was opening in Liverpool or the EU which he posted about last yr he failed to answer I think the blagger mite be him he used to post lots of silly stories lol What? What are you talking about and what on earth do my personal business interests have to do with this thread? I didn’t vote to Leave because I saw through the bullshit - therefore my activities have the nothing to do with me being lied to, To be honest this seems a bit bunny boiling. If your exports are up then just say so and we will celebrate with you, no judgement. What do you sell Chris? Magics beans and unicorns? I sell Mensa tests " The Mensa tests that you do online ? | |||
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"Why do you want leavers to be silent then Fabio ?" I don’t.... what I would like is for leavers to acknowledge you threw Northern Ireland under the bus to get your brexit dream Own the reality... don’t pretend it didn’t happen | |||
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"Why do you want leavers to be silent then Fabio ? I don’t.... what I would like is for leavers to acknowledge you threw Northern Ireland under the bus to get your brexit dream Own the reality... don’t pretend it didn’t happen " ok I acknowledge I threw NI under the bus to get my brexit deal does that help you does it achieve anything or is it just fab politics bullshit ? | |||
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"At the end of all that I am still none the wiser about the thousands of ex pats returning (as when the claimer was asked for proof it went quiet) or the EU accounts(as when given facts the claimer reverted to - it happens in the UK)" Wrong about the EU Accounts, thet have been verified - it was in Fullfact. I just pointed out additionally, that Chris Greyling has wasted money hand over fist and not been held accountable - pre Covid. Since Covid this Govt has wasted all the cash on the magic money tree. This Chumocracy is deeply fraudulent, way more than the EU ever was. | |||
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"Why do you want leavers to be silent then Fabio ? I don’t.... what I would like is for leavers to acknowledge you threw Northern Ireland under the bus to get your brexit dream Own the reality... don’t pretend it didn’t happen " . This issue is already bring addressed by the people of Northern Ireland and a legal review is taking place. If you wish to apportion blame, it should fall on those remainers who instead of accepting the result of the referendum choose to obstruct the withdrawal process at every stage . Their obstruction has caused short term damage to the British economy. Boris and the Conservatives have looked after the people of NI. The EU have caused the problems by insisting on customs checks that in many cases are totally unnecessary and in addition want to rigorously enforce the rules. | |||
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"Why do you want leavers to be silent then Fabio ? I don’t.... what I would like is for leavers to acknowledge you threw Northern Ireland under the bus to get your brexit dream Own the reality... don’t pretend it didn’t happen . This issue is already bring addressed by the people of Northern Ireland and a legal review is taking place. If you wish to apportion blame, it should fall on those remainers who instead of accepting the result of the referendum choose to obstruct the withdrawal process at every stage . Their obstruction has caused short term damage to the British economy. Boris and the Conservatives have looked after the people of NI. The EU have caused the problems by insisting on customs checks that in many cases are totally unnecessary and in addition want to rigorously enforce the rules. " In the land of the blind, Boris is King... | |||
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"you are making a lot of assumptions there not all fishermen are affected just the Bivalvia fishermen not fishing in class A waters. People in spain have had plenty of time to sort their residency out so for them it is a case of cant be bothered or don't want to disclose there tax affairs to the Spanish authorities but they have had plenty of time. As for N ireland i dont know as dont live there but would think the disruption from the eu trying to cut off part of the UK will only strengthen their resolve . Pretty much every fisherman is affected Interms of overseas Brits, they were lied to about Brexit & stiffed by the Govt in not being told what they had to do - we will now have several hundred thousand expat Brits to cope with - France & Spain and others NI has been screwed by Boris, not the EU. The border down the Irish Sea is his idea So 3 things that could have been resolved had we had some talend in Govt. 3 things that were not sharedcwith voters - I believe it was labelled ‘Project Fear’ - instead it was Project Truth, the liars just bullshitted past it and people fell for it." Several hundred thousand returning expats because of Brexit? What bloody nonsense. I am an expat living in the EU (and have done for 17 years+) and apart from an extra form that the town hall sent me in January it is no change. We are now in Spain and almost all our resident friends and neighbours are still here. We know of only one who has recently gone back for health reasons. In all the 17 years there was always a turnover of people going back for various reasons, but so far we do not know of anyone who has returned because of Brexit. NOT ONE. | |||
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"you are making a lot of assumptions there not all fishermen are affected just the Bivalvia fishermen not fishing in class A waters. People in spain have had plenty of time to sort their residency out so for them it is a case of cant be bothered or don't want to disclose there tax affairs to the Spanish authorities but they have had plenty of time. As for N ireland i dont know as dont live there but would think the disruption from the eu trying to cut off part of the UK will only strengthen their resolve . Pretty much every fisherman is affected Interms of overseas Brits, they were lied to about Brexit & stiffed by the Govt in not being told what they had to do - we will now have several hundred thousand expat Brits to cope with - France & Spain and others NI has been screwed by Boris, not the EU. The border down the Irish Sea is his idea So 3 things that could have been resolved had we had some talend in Govt. 3 things that were not sharedcwith voters - I believe it was labelled ‘Project Fear’ - instead it was Project Truth, the liars just bullshitted past it and people fell for it. Several hundred thousand returning expats because of Brexit? What bloody nonsense. I am an expat living in the EU (and have done for 17 years+) and apart from an extra form that the town hall sent me in January it is no change. We are now in Spain and almost all our resident friends and neighbours are still here. We know of only one who has recently gone back for health reasons. In all the 17 years there was always a turnover of people going back for various reasons, but so far we do not know of anyone who has returned because of Brexit. NOT ONE. " 500 have been sent home this week. | |||
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"you are making a lot of assumptions there not all fishermen are affected just the Bivalvia fishermen not fishing in class A waters. People in spain have had plenty of time to sort their residency out so for them it is a case of cant be bothered or don't want to disclose there tax affairs to the Spanish authorities but they have had plenty of time. As for N ireland i dont know as dont live there but would think the disruption from the eu trying to cut off part of the UK will only strengthen their resolve . Pretty much every fisherman is affected Interms of overseas Brits, they were lied to about Brexit & stiffed by the Govt in not being told what they had to do - we will now have several hundred thousand expat Brits to cope with - France & Spain and others NI has been screwed by Boris, not the EU. The border down the Irish Sea is his idea So 3 things that could have been resolved had we had some talend in Govt. 3 things that were not sharedcwith voters - I believe it was labelled ‘Project Fear’ - instead it was Project Truth, the liars just bullshitted past it and people fell for it. Several hundred thousand returning expats because of Brexit? What bloody nonsense. I am an expat living in the EU (and have done for 17 years+) and apart from an extra form that the town hall sent me in January it is no change. We are now in Spain and almost all our resident friends and neighbours are still here. We know of only one who has recently gone back for health reasons. In all the 17 years there was always a turnover of people going back for various reasons, but so far we do not know of anyone who has returned because of Brexit. NOT ONE. 500 have been sent home this week." Have they though? | |||
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"you are making a lot of assumptions there not all fishermen are affected just the Bivalvia fishermen not fishing in class A waters. People in spain have had plenty of time to sort their residency out so for them it is a case of cant be bothered or don't want to disclose there tax affairs to the Spanish authorities but they have had plenty of time. As for N ireland i dont know as dont live there but would think the disruption from the eu trying to cut off part of the UK will only strengthen their resolve . Pretty much every fisherman is affected Interms of overseas Brits, they were lied to about Brexit & stiffed by the Govt in not being told what they had to do - we will now have several hundred thousand expat Brits to cope with - France & Spain and others NI has been screwed by Boris, not the EU. The border down the Irish Sea is his idea So 3 things that could have been resolved had we had some talend in Govt. 3 things that were not sharedcwith voters - I believe it was labelled ‘Project Fear’ - instead it was Project Truth, the liars just bullshitted past it and people fell for it. Several hundred thousand returning expats because of Brexit? What bloody nonsense. I am an expat living in the EU (and have done for 17 years+) and apart from an extra form that the town hall sent me in January it is no change. We are now in Spain and almost all our resident friends and neighbours are still here. We know of only one who has recently gone back for health reasons. In all the 17 years there was always a turnover of people going back for various reasons, but so far we do not know of anyone who has returned because of Brexit. NOT ONE. 500 have been sent home this week." Would love to see the details. | |||
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"you are making a lot of assumptions there not all fishermen are affected just the Bivalvia fishermen not fishing in class A waters. People in spain have had plenty of time to sort their residency out so for them it is a case of cant be bothered or don't want to disclose there tax affairs to the Spanish authorities but they have had plenty of time. As for N ireland i dont know as dont live there but would think the disruption from the eu trying to cut off part of the UK will only strengthen their resolve . Pretty much every fisherman is affected Interms of overseas Brits, they were lied to about Brexit & stiffed by the Govt in not being told what they had to do - we will now have several hundred thousand expat Brits to cope with - France & Spain and others NI has been screwed by Boris, not the EU. The border down the Irish Sea is his idea So 3 things that could have been resolved had we had some talend in Govt. 3 things that were not sharedcwith voters - I believe it was labelled ‘Project Fear’ - instead it was Project Truth, the liars just bullshitted past it and people fell for it. Several hundred thousand returning expats because of Brexit? What bloody nonsense. I am an expat living in the EU (and have done for 17 years+) and apart from an extra form that the town hall sent me in January it is no change. We are now in Spain and almost all our resident friends and neighbours are still here. We know of only one who has recently gone back for health reasons. In all the 17 years there was always a turnover of people going back for various reasons, but so far we do not know of anyone who has returned because of Brexit. NOT ONE. 500 have been sent home this week. Would love to see the details." Dont hold your breath | |||
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"you are making a lot of assumptions there not all fishermen are affected just the Bivalvia fishermen not fishing in class A waters. People in spain have had plenty of time to sort their residency out so for them it is a case of cant be bothered or don't want to disclose there tax affairs to the Spanish authorities but they have had plenty of time. As for N ireland i dont know as dont live there but would think the disruption from the eu trying to cut off part of the UK will only strengthen their resolve . Pretty much every fisherman is affected Interms of overseas Brits, they were lied to about Brexit & stiffed by the Govt in not being told what they had to do - we will now have several hundred thousand expat Brits to cope with - France & Spain and others NI has been screwed by Boris, not the EU. The border down the Irish Sea is his idea So 3 things that could have been resolved had we had some talend in Govt. 3 things that were not sharedcwith voters - I believe it was labelled ‘Project Fear’ - instead it was Project Truth, the liars just bullshitted past it and people fell for it. Several hundred thousand returning expats because of Brexit? What bloody nonsense. I am an expat living in the EU (and have done for 17 years+) and apart from an extra form that the town hall sent me in January it is no change. We are now in Spain and almost all our resident friends and neighbours are still here. We know of only one who has recently gone back for health reasons. In all the 17 years there was always a turnover of people going back for various reasons, but so far we do not know of anyone who has returned because of Brexit. NOT ONE. 500 have been sent home this week. Would love to see the details." In some countries such as France and Spain, Brits never have had to register as permanent residents, which introduces another layer of anxiety. Until they get their long-term residence status as a third-country nationals, they’ll won’t be able to leave their host country after 1 January 2021, then return as anything but tourists. Haven’t the Govt done well by its voters | |||
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"Why do you want leavers to be silent then Fabio ? I don’t.... what I would like is for leavers to acknowledge you threw Northern Ireland under the bus to get your brexit dream Own the reality... don’t pretend it didn’t happen . This issue is already bring addressed by the people of Northern Ireland and a legal review is taking place. If you wish to apportion blame, it should fall on those remainers who instead of accepting the result of the referendum choose to obstruct the withdrawal process at every stage . Their obstruction has caused short term damage to the British economy. Boris and the Conservatives have looked after the people of NI. The EU have caused the problems by insisting on customs checks that in many cases are totally unnecessary and in addition want to rigorously enforce the rules. " Errrrrrr...... no! What Boris and the conservatives did was to try to pretend the good Friday agreement, which has been international law for the best part of 25 years, didn’t exist.... and stuck fingers in their ears screaming la la la not listening whenever anyone had the sheer audacity to point it out! Leavers are the ones who wanted to put up borders..... the border needed to go somewhere... it was Boris who suggested it went down the Irish Sea! That proposal came from the UK...not the EU Even the DUP told you this would happen..... | |||
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"you are making a lot of assumptions there not all fishermen are affected just the Bivalvia fishermen not fishing in class A waters. People in spain have had plenty of time to sort their residency out so for them it is a case of cant be bothered or don't want to disclose there tax affairs to the Spanish authorities but they have had plenty of time. As for N ireland i dont know as dont live there but would think the disruption from the eu trying to cut off part of the UK will only strengthen their resolve . Pretty much every fisherman is affected Interms of overseas Brits, they were lied to about Brexit & stiffed by the Govt in not being told what they had to do - we will now have several hundred thousand expat Brits to cope with - France & Spain and others NI has been screwed by Boris, not the EU. The border down the Irish Sea is his idea So 3 things that could have been resolved had we had some talend in Govt. 3 things that were not sharedcwith voters - I believe it was labelled ‘Project Fear’ - instead it was Project Truth, the liars just bullshitted past it and people fell for it. Several hundred thousand returning expats because of Brexit? What bloody nonsense. I am an expat living in the EU (and have done for 17 years+) and apart from an extra form that the town hall sent me in January it is no change. We are now in Spain and almost all our resident friends and neighbours are still here. We know of only one who has recently gone back for health reasons. In all the 17 years there was always a turnover of people going back for various reasons, but so far we do not know of anyone who has returned because of Brexit. NOT ONE. 500 have been sent home this week. Would love to see the details. In some countries such as France and Spain, Brits never have had to register as permanent residents, which introduces another layer of anxiety. Until they get their long-term residence status as a third-country nationals, they’ll won’t be able to leave their host country after 1 January 2021, then return as anything but tourists. Haven’t the Govt done well by its voters "That is not correct. In Spain anyone living here permanently had to apply for residencia. That has always been the case. However many (especially Brits) didn't bother and lived here under the radar for years, and (apart from occasional purges) the Spanish very rarely bothered to enforce the rules. But they were living here illegally and I would doubt that the vast majority didn't vote for anything. Maybe the Spanish have started enforcing the rules now and are kicking out a few illegals I don't know the rules for France but suspect it is the same as Spain. | |||
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"you are making a lot of assumptions there not all fishermen are affected just the Bivalvia fishermen not fishing in class A waters. People in spain have had plenty of time to sort their residency out so for them it is a case of cant be bothered or don't want to disclose there tax affairs to the Spanish authorities but they have had plenty of time. As for N ireland i dont know as dont live there but would think the disruption from the eu trying to cut off part of the UK will only strengthen their resolve . Pretty much every fisherman is affected Interms of overseas Brits, they were lied to about Brexit & stiffed by the Govt in not being told what they had to do - we will now have several hundred thousand expat Brits to cope with - France & Spain and others NI has been screwed by Boris, not the EU. The border down the Irish Sea is his idea So 3 things that could have been resolved had we had some talend in Govt. 3 things that were not sharedcwith voters - I believe it was labelled ‘Project Fear’ - instead it was Project Truth, the liars just bullshitted past it and people fell for it. Several hundred thousand returning expats because of Brexit? What bloody nonsense. I am an expat living in the EU (and have done for 17 years+) and apart from an extra form that the town hall sent me in January it is no change. We are now in Spain and almost all our resident friends and neighbours are still here. We know of only one who has recently gone back for health reasons. In all the 17 years there was always a turnover of people going back for various reasons, but so far we do not know of anyone who has returned because of Brexit. NOT ONE. 500 have been sent home this week. Would love to see the details." There is a story on global 24/7news I'm not putting the link up but its fairly easy to find | |||
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"you are making a lot of assumptions there not all fishermen are affected just the Bivalvia fishermen not fishing in class A waters. People in spain have had plenty of time to sort their residency out so for them it is a case of cant be bothered or don't want to disclose there tax affairs to the Spanish authorities but they have had plenty of time. As for N ireland i dont know as dont live there but would think the disruption from the eu trying to cut off part of the UK will only strengthen their resolve . Pretty much every fisherman is affected Interms of overseas Brits, they were lied to about Brexit & stiffed by the Govt in not being told what they had to do - we will now have several hundred thousand expat Brits to cope with - France & Spain and others NI has been screwed by Boris, not the EU. The border down the Irish Sea is his idea So 3 things that could have been resolved had we had some talend in Govt. 3 things that were not sharedcwith voters - I believe it was labelled ‘Project Fear’ - instead it was Project Truth, the liars just bullshitted past it and people fell for it. Several hundred thousand returning expats because of Brexit? What bloody nonsense. I am an expat living in the EU (and have done for 17 years+) and apart from an extra form that the town hall sent me in January it is no change. We are now in Spain and almost all our resident friends and neighbours are still here. We know of only one who has recently gone back for health reasons. In all the 17 years there was always a turnover of people going back for various reasons, but so far we do not know of anyone who has returned because of Brexit. NOT ONE. 500 have been sent home this week. Would love to see the details. In some countries such as France and Spain, Brits never have had to register as permanent residents, which introduces another layer of anxiety. Until they get their long-term residence status as a third-country nationals, they’ll won’t be able to leave their host country after 1 January 2021, then return as anything but tourists. Haven’t the Govt done well by its voters "Nope, in spain before brexit registering with the padron was enough but anyone who has applied for residency and not received it yet can still leave and return. | |||
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"you are making a lot of assumptions there not all fishermen are affected just the Bivalvia fishermen not fishing in class A waters. People in spain have had plenty of time to sort their residency out so for them it is a case of cant be bothered or don't want to disclose there tax affairs to the Spanish authorities but they have had plenty of time. As for N ireland i dont know as dont live there but would think the disruption from the eu trying to cut off part of the UK will only strengthen their resolve . Pretty much every fisherman is affected Interms of overseas Brits, they were lied to about Brexit & stiffed by the Govt in not being told what they had to do - we will now have several hundred thousand expat Brits to cope with - France & Spain and others NI has been screwed by Boris, not the EU. The border down the Irish Sea is his idea So 3 things that could have been resolved had we had some talend in Govt. 3 things that were not sharedcwith voters - I believe it was labelled ‘Project Fear’ - instead it was Project Truth, the liars just bullshitted past it and people fell for it. Several hundred thousand returning expats because of Brexit? What bloody nonsense. I am an expat living in the EU (and have done for 17 years+) and apart from an extra form that the town hall sent me in January it is no change. We are now in Spain and almost all our resident friends and neighbours are still here. We know of only one who has recently gone back for health reasons. In all the 17 years there was always a turnover of people going back for various reasons, but so far we do not know of anyone who has returned because of Brexit. NOT ONE. " Exactly what I said yesterday. Unfortunately quite a few remainers you can't tell anything, they would rather turn to Karen off Facebook. | |||
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"yep i came back and nothing to do with brexit,just glad i sold my house before it actually happened." Unless you were a resident prior to the transition period ending, then you are a tourist within Schengen and you have 90 days in Country as a tourist within a 180 day period. Ifbyou break these rules you will be barred from entry in future. | |||
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"Those that failed to follow the correct procedures and register will be ok on return to this country. They will still be able to get their "full english" whilst reading the Sun, do a few cash in hand jobs whilst not paying any tax, neck a few pints of John Smiths at the end of the day and get their "authentic English roast" on a Sunday. Just the sunshine may be a bit more hit and miss over here. "Brexit is so worthwhile, for so many people  | |||
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"you are making a lot of assumptions there not all fishermen are affected just the Bivalvia fishermen not fishing in class A waters. People in spain have had plenty of time to sort their residency out so for them it is a case of cant be bothered or don't want to disclose there tax affairs to the Spanish authorities but they have had plenty of time. As for N ireland i dont know as dont live there but would think the disruption from the eu trying to cut off part of the UK will only strengthen their resolve . Pretty much every fisherman is affected Interms of overseas Brits, they were lied to about Brexit & stiffed by the Govt in not being told what they had to do - we will now have several hundred thousand expat Brits to cope with - France & Spain and others NI has been screwed by Boris, not the EU. The border down the Irish Sea is his idea So 3 things that could have been resolved had we had some talend in Govt. 3 things that were not sharedcwith voters - I believe it was labelled ‘Project Fear’ - instead it was Project Truth, the liars just bullshitted past it and people fell for it. Several hundred thousand returning expats because of Brexit? What bloody nonsense. I am an expat living in the EU (and have done for 17 years+) and apart from an extra form that the town hall sent me in January it is no change. We are now in Spain and almost all our resident friends and neighbours are still here. We know of only one who has recently gone back for health reasons. In all the 17 years there was always a turnover of people going back for various reasons, but so far we do not know of anyone who has returned because of Brexit. NOT ONE. " | |||
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"Why do you want leavers to be silent then Fabio ? I don’t.... what I would like is for leavers to acknowledge you threw Northern Ireland under the bus to get your brexit dream Own the reality... don’t pretend it didn’t happen ok I acknowledge I threw NI under the bus to get my brexit deal does that help you does it achieve anything or is it just fab politics bullshit ?" I’d suggest it was the first bit of honesty, brutal honesty from a Brexiteer - I hope it was cathartic for you. Maybe the rest of you could own up to the reasons for your own selfishness? | |||
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"Why do you want leavers to be silent then Fabio ? I don’t.... what I would like is for leavers to acknowledge you threw Northern Ireland under the bus to get your brexit dream Own the reality... don’t pretend it didn’t happen ok I acknowledge I threw NI under the bus to get my brexit deal does that help you does it achieve anything or is it just fab politics bullshit ? I’d suggest it was the first bit of honesty, brutal honesty from a Brexiteer - I hope it was cathartic for you. Maybe the rest of you could own up to the reasons for your own selfishness? "Honestly I'm laughing at the salty tears. Brutally honestly. | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? " Brexit is the problem . | |||
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"Why do you want leavers to be silent then Fabio ? I don’t.... what I would like is for leavers to acknowledge you threw Northern Ireland under the bus to get your brexit dream Own the reality... don’t pretend it didn’t happen ok I acknowledge I threw NI under the bus to get my brexit deal does that help you does it achieve anything or is it just fab politics bullshit ? I’d suggest it was the first bit of honesty, brutal honesty from a Brexiteer - I hope it was cathartic for you. Maybe the rest of you could own up to the reasons for your own selfishness? "what do you want leavers to own upto tho is it an apology your after you won’t be the first remainder to ask for one can you be honest and tell us what difference to yr life will it make if I say sorry for voting differ t to you in a democratic vote will it make a difference will you move on ??? | |||
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"Why do you want leavers to be silent then Fabio ? I don’t.... what I would like is for leavers to acknowledge you threw Northern Ireland under the bus to get your brexit dream Own the reality... don’t pretend it didn’t happen ok I acknowledge I threw NI under the bus to get my brexit deal does that help you does it achieve anything or is it just fab politics bullshit ? I’d suggest it was the first bit of honesty, brutal honesty from a Brexiteer - I hope it was cathartic for you. Maybe the rest of you could own up to the reasons for your own selfishness?
Honestly I'm laughing at the salty tears.
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"Why do you want leavers to be silent then Fabio ? I don’t.... what I would like is for leavers to acknowledge you threw Northern Ireland under the bus to get your brexit dream Own the reality... don’t pretend it didn’t happen ok I acknowledge I threw NI under the bus to get my brexit deal does that help you does it achieve anything or is it just fab politics bullshit ? I’d suggest it was the first bit of honesty, brutal honesty from a Brexiteer - I hope it was cathartic for you. Maybe the rest of you could own up to the reasons for your own selfishness?
Honestly I'm laughing at the salty tears.
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Welcome to brexit Britain."because remainers don’t take the piss then eh lol | |||
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"Why do you want leavers to be silent then Fabio ? I don’t.... what I would like is for leavers to acknowledge you threw Northern Ireland under the bus to get your brexit dream Own the reality... don’t pretend it didn’t happen ok I acknowledge I threw NI under the bus to get my brexit deal does that help you does it achieve anything or is it just fab politics bullshit ? I’d suggest it was the first bit of honesty, brutal honesty from a Brexiteer - I hope it was cathartic for you. Maybe the rest of you could own up to the reasons for your own selfishness?
Honestly I'm laughing at the salty tears.
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Welcome to brexit Britain.because remainers don’t take the piss then eh lol"Sure. But I don't remember anyone boasting about laughing at someone crying. | |||
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Honestly I'm laughing at the salty tears.
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Laughing at someone on tears is a good thing now?
Welcome to brexit Britain.because remainers don’t take the piss then eh lol
Sure. But I don't remember anyone boasting about laughing at someone crying."fuck me mate come on play the game don’t just do one side of the coin yr a fair man I cud list lots of shite remainders have said about leavers you know it’s two sided ffs | |||
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Honestly I'm laughing at the salty tears.
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Laughing at someone on tears is a good thing now?
Welcome to brexit Britain.because remainers don’t take the piss then eh lol
Sure. But I don't remember anyone boasting about laughing at someone crying.fuck me mate come on play the game don’t just do one side of the coin yr a fair man I cud list lots of shite remainders have said about leavers you know it’s two sided ffs "You do, constantly. All you do on here. A leaver boasts about laughing at people crying, I question it, and you jump straight on with "what about remainers". You are the definition of "one side of the coin" | |||
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Honestly I'm laughing at the salty tears.
Brutally honestly.
Laughing at someone on tears is a good thing now?
Welcome to brexit Britain.because remainers don’t take the piss then eh lol
Sure. But I don't remember anyone boasting about laughing at someone crying.fuck me mate come on play the game don’t just do one side of the coin yr a fair man I cud list lots of shite remainders have said about leavers you know it’s two sided ffs "Yes it is two sided and I have never heard you utter the gammon phrase ‘salty remainer tears ‘ so it is fair to say not all leave voters are suffering from gammon rage | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem " As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal?" Irrelevant, without Brexit the problem doesn’t exist , so Brexit is the cause , all of this was predicted so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise | |||
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"Why do you want leavers to be silent then Fabio ? I don’t.... what I would like is for leavers to acknowledge you threw Northern Ireland under the bus to get your brexit dream Own the reality... don’t pretend it didn’t happen ok I acknowledge I threw NI under the bus to get my brexit deal does that help you does it achieve anything or is it just fab politics bullshit ? I’d suggest it was the first bit of honesty, brutal honesty from a Brexiteer - I hope it was cathartic for you. Maybe the rest of you could own up to the reasons for your own selfishness?
Honestly I'm laughing at the salty tears.
Brutally honestly.
Laughing at someone on tears is a good thing now?
Welcome to brexit Britain.because remainers don’t take the piss then eh lol
Sure. But I don't remember anyone boasting about laughing at someone crying.fuck me mate come on play the game don’t just do one side of the coin yr a fair man I cud list lots of shite remainders have said about leavers you know it’s two sided ffs
You do, constantly. All you do on here. A leaver boasts about laughing at people crying, I question it, and you jump straight on with "what about remainers".
You are the definition of "one side of the coin""pkies your opinion so if I’m definition of one side of the coin are you not the other side ? | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? Irrelevant, without Brexit the problem doesn’t exist , so Brexit is the cause , all of this was predicted so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise " It's not irrelevant. Brexit had happened. So why not just answer the question? Because you won't, which is why these threads are a waste of time. You just like going round and round. I thought I would try again, but as Lionel says, 'its pointless'. | |||
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"Why do you want leavers to be silent then Fabio ? I don’t.... what I would like is for leavers to acknowledge you threw Northern Ireland under the bus to get your brexit dream Own the reality... don’t pretend it didn’t happen ok I acknowledge I threw NI under the bus to get my brexit deal does that help you does it achieve anything or is it just fab politics bullshit ? I’d suggest it was the first bit of honesty, brutal honesty from a Brexiteer - I hope it was cathartic for you. Maybe the rest of you could own up to the reasons for your own selfishness?
Honestly I'm laughing at the salty tears.
Brutally honestly.
Laughing at someone on tears is a good thing now?
Welcome to brexit Britain.because remainers don’t take the piss then eh lol
Sure. But I don't remember anyone boasting about laughing at someone crying.fuck me mate come on play the game don’t just do one side of the coin yr a fair man I cud list lots of shite remainders have said about leavers you know it’s two sided ffs
You do, constantly. All you do on here. A leaver boasts about laughing at people crying, I question it, and you jump straight on with "what about remainers".
You are the definition of "one side of the coin"pkies your opinion so if I’m definition of one side of the coin are you not the other side ?"Maybe, but I don't tell people "what about leavers" everytime they post something. I try to address the point they're making. | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? Irrelevant, without Brexit the problem doesn’t exist , so Brexit is the cause , all of this was predicted so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise It's not irrelevant. Brexit had happened. So why not just answer the question? Because you won't, which is why these threads are a waste of time. You just like going round and round. I thought I would try again, but as Lionel says, 'its pointless'." Here is my answer, the UK shouldn’t have agreed to the deal , the onus is on the UK government to best serve it’s citizens the onus is on the EU to best serve their member states citizens . Brexit has caused a preventable problem, this is a fact . | |||
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"Why do you want leavers to be silent then Fabio ? I don’t.... what I would like is for leavers to acknowledge you threw Northern Ireland under the bus to get your brexit dream Own the reality... don’t pretend it didn’t happen ok I acknowledge I threw NI under the bus to get my brexit deal does that help you does it achieve anything or is it just fab politics bullshit ? I’d suggest it was the first bit of honesty, brutal honesty from a Brexiteer - I hope it was cathartic for you. Maybe the rest of you could own up to the reasons for your own selfishness?
Honestly I'm laughing at the salty tears.
Brutally honestly.
Laughing at someone on tears is a good thing now?
Welcome to brexit Britain.because remainers don’t take the piss then eh lol
Sure. But I don't remember anyone boasting about laughing at someone crying.fuck me mate come on play the game don’t just do one side of the coin yr a fair man I cud list lots of shite remainders have said about leavers you know it’s two sided ffs
You do, constantly. All you do on here. A leaver boasts about laughing at people crying, I question it, and you jump straight on with "what about remainers".
You are the definition of "one side of the coin"pkies your opinion so if I’m definition of one side of the coin are you not the other side ?
Maybe, but I don't tell people "what about leavers" everytime they post something. I try to address the point they're making."well that’s where we are different I prefer both sides of the coin rather than just one | |||
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"Why do you want leavers to be silent then Fabio ? I don’t.... what I would like is for leavers to acknowledge you threw Northern Ireland under the bus to get your brexit dream Own the reality... don’t pretend it didn’t happen ok I acknowledge I threw NI under the bus to get my brexit deal does that help you does it achieve anything or is it just fab politics bullshit ? I’d suggest it was the first bit of honesty, brutal honesty from a Brexiteer - I hope it was cathartic for you. Maybe the rest of you could own up to the reasons for your own selfishness?
Honestly I'm laughing at the salty tears.
Brutally honestly.
Laughing at someone on tears is a good thing now?
Welcome to brexit Britain.because remainers don’t take the piss then eh lol
Sure. But I don't remember anyone boasting about laughing at someone crying.fuck me mate come on play the game don’t just do one side of the coin yr a fair man I cud list lots of shite remainders have said about leavers you know it’s two sided ffs
You do, constantly. All you do on here. A leaver boasts about laughing at people crying, I question it, and you jump straight on with "what about remainers".
You are the definition of "one side of the coin"pkies your opinion so if I’m definition of one side of the coin are you not the other side ?
Maybe, but I don't tell people "what about leavers" everytime they post something. I try to address the point they're making.well that’s where we are different I prefer both sides of the coin rather than just one "Then how would you have suggested I present the point to the guy boasting about laughing at people crying? | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? Irrelevant, without Brexit the problem doesn’t exist , so Brexit is the cause , all of this was predicted so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise It's not irrelevant. Brexit had happened. So why not just answer the question? Because you won't, which is why these threads are a waste of time. You just like going round and round. I thought I would try again, but as Lionel says, 'its pointless'. Here is my answer, the UK shouldn’t have agreed to the deal , the onus is on the UK government to best serve it’s citizens the onus is on the EU to best serve their member states citizens . Brexit has caused a preventable problem, this is a fact . " But the EU ignored a letter by one of 'their' states, from one that was in the transition, saying what would happen if they continued with using them as a bargaining chip. The UK did not ignore the majority of its citizens. | |||
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"Why do you want leavers to be silent then Fabio ? I don’t.... what I would like is for leavers to acknowledge you threw Northern Ireland under the bus to get your brexit dream Own the reality... don’t pretend it didn’t happen ok I acknowledge I threw NI under the bus to get my brexit deal does that help you does it achieve anything or is it just fab politics bullshit ? I’d suggest it was the first bit of honesty, brutal honesty from a Brexiteer - I hope it was cathartic for you. Maybe the rest of you could own up to the reasons for your own selfishness?
Honestly I'm laughing at the salty tears.
Brutally honestly.
Laughing at someone on tears is a good thing now?
Welcome to brexit Britain.because remainers don’t take the piss then eh lol
Sure. But I don't remember anyone boasting about laughing at someone crying.fuck me mate come on play the game don’t just do one side of the coin yr a fair man I cud list lots of shite remainders have said about leavers you know it’s two sided ffs
You do, constantly. All you do on here. A leaver boasts about laughing at people crying, I question it, and you jump straight on with "what about remainers".
You are the definition of "one side of the coin"pkies your opinion so if I’m definition of one side of the coin are you not the other side ?
Maybe, but I don't tell people "what about leavers" everytime they post something. I try to address the point they're making.well that’s where we are different I prefer both sides of the coin rather than just one
Then how would you have suggested I present the point to the guy boasting about laughing at people crying?
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"Why do you want leavers to be silent then Fabio ? I don’t.... what I would like is for leavers to acknowledge you threw Northern Ireland under the bus to get your brexit dream Own the reality... don’t pretend it didn’t happen ok I acknowledge I threw NI under the bus to get my brexit deal does that help you does it achieve anything or is it just fab politics bullshit ? I’d suggest it was the first bit of honesty, brutal honesty from a Brexiteer - I hope it was cathartic for you. Maybe the rest of you could own up to the reasons for your own selfishness?
Honestly I'm laughing at the salty tears.
Brutally honestly.
Laughing at someone on tears is a good thing now?
Welcome to brexit Britain.because remainers don’t take the piss then eh lol
Sure. But I don't remember anyone boasting about laughing at someone crying.fuck me mate come on play the game don’t just do one side of the coin yr a fair man I cud list lots of shite remainders have said about leavers you know it’s two sided ffs
You do, constantly. All you do on here. A leaver boasts about laughing at people crying, I question it, and you jump straight on with "what about remainers".
You are the definition of "one side of the coin"pkies your opinion so if I’m definition of one side of the coin are you not the other side ?
Maybe, but I don't tell people "what about leavers" everytime they post something. I try to address the point they're making.well that’s where we are different I prefer both sides of the coin rather than just one
Then how would you have suggested I present the point to the guy boasting about laughing at people crying?
just present a similar point when someone is having a pop at a leaver "Firstly. I don't associate bragging about laughing at someone crying with leavers or with remainers. Secondly, why would pointing out someone having a go at a leaver be on anyway relevant to the point that it's a shitty thing to do to boast about laughing at someone crying. | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? Irrelevant, without Brexit the problem doesn’t exist , so Brexit is the cause , all of this was predicted so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise It's not irrelevant. Brexit had happened. So why not just answer the question? Because you won't, which is why these threads are a waste of time. You just like going round and round. I thought I would try again, but as Lionel says, 'its pointless'. Here is my answer, the UK shouldn’t have agreed to the deal , the onus is on the UK government to best serve it’s citizens the onus is on the EU to best serve their member states citizens . Brexit has caused a preventable problem, this is a fact . But the EU ignored a letter by one of 'their' states, from one that was in the transition, saying what would happen if they continued with using them as a bargaining chip. The UK did not ignore the majority of its citizens." The majority of UK citizens wanted a NI border? Here is an indisputable fact, Brexit , as predicted , caused this problem . | |||
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"Why do you want leavers to be silent then Fabio ? I don’t.... what I would like is for leavers to acknowledge you threw Northern Ireland under the bus to get your brexit dream Own the reality... don’t pretend it didn’t happen ok I acknowledge I threw NI under the bus to get my brexit deal does that help you does it achieve anything or is it just fab politics bullshit ? I’d suggest it was the first bit of honesty, brutal honesty from a Brexiteer - I hope it was cathartic for you. Maybe the rest of you could own up to the reasons for your own selfishness?
Honestly I'm laughing at the salty tears.
Brutally honestly.
Laughing at someone on tears is a good thing now?
Welcome to brexit Britain.because remainers don’t take the piss then eh lol
Sure. But I don't remember anyone boasting about laughing at someone crying.fuck me mate come on play the game don’t just do one side of the coin yr a fair man I cud list lots of shite remainders have said about leavers you know it’s two sided ffs
You do, constantly. All you do on here. A leaver boasts about laughing at people crying, I question it, and you jump straight on with "what about remainers".
You are the definition of "one side of the coin"pkies your opinion so if I’m definition of one side of the coin are you not the other side ?
Maybe, but I don't tell people "what about leavers" everytime they post something. I try to address the point they're making.well that’s where we are different I prefer both sides of the coin rather than just one
Then how would you have suggested I present the point to the guy boasting about laughing at people crying?
just present a similar point when someone is having a pop at a leaver
Firstly. I don't associate bragging about laughing at someone crying with leavers or with remainers.
Secondly, why would pointing out someone having a go at a leaver be on anyway relevant to the point that it's a shitty thing to do to boast about laughing at someone crying. "I agree it is a shitty thing to do but I can think of way worse things said on here tbh | |||
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"Why do you want leavers to be silent then Fabio ? I don’t.... what I would like is for leavers to acknowledge you threw Northern Ireland under the bus to get your brexit dream Own the reality... don’t pretend it didn’t happen ok I acknowledge I threw NI under the bus to get my brexit deal does that help you does it achieve anything or is it just fab politics bullshit ? I’d suggest it was the first bit of honesty, brutal honesty from a Brexiteer - I hope it was cathartic for you. Maybe the rest of you could own up to the reasons for your own selfishness?
Honestly I'm laughing at the salty tears.
Brutally honestly.
Laughing at someone on tears is a good thing now?
Welcome to brexit Britain.because remainers don’t take the piss then eh lol
Sure. But I don't remember anyone boasting about laughing at someone crying.fuck me mate come on play the game don’t just do one side of the coin yr a fair man I cud list lots of shite remainders have said about leavers you know it’s two sided ffs
You do, constantly. All you do on here. A leaver boasts about laughing at people crying, I question it, and you jump straight on with "what about remainers".
You are the definition of "one side of the coin"pkies your opinion so if I’m definition of one side of the coin are you not the other side ?
Maybe, but I don't tell people "what about leavers" everytime they post something. I try to address the point they're making.well that’s where we are different I prefer both sides of the coin rather than just one
Then how would you have suggested I present the point to the guy boasting about laughing at people crying?
just present a similar point when someone is having a pop at a leaver
Firstly. I don't associate bragging about laughing at someone crying with leavers or with remainers.
Secondly, why would pointing out someone having a go at a leaver be on anyway relevant to the point that it's a shitty thing to do to boast about laughing at someone crying. I agree it is a shitty thing to do but I can think of way worse things said on here tbh "Sure. People say crappy things. | |||
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"Why do you want leavers to be silent then Fabio ? I don’t.... what I would like is for leavers to acknowledge you threw Northern Ireland under the bus to get your brexit dream Own the reality... don’t pretend it didn’t happen ok I acknowledge I threw NI under the bus to get my brexit deal does that help you does it achieve anything or is it just fab politics bullshit ? I’d suggest it was the first bit of honesty, brutal honesty from a Brexiteer - I hope it was cathartic for you. Maybe the rest of you could own up to the reasons for your own selfishness?
Honestly I'm laughing at the salty tears.
Brutally honestly.
Laughing at someone on tears is a good thing now?
Welcome to brexit Britain.because remainers don’t take the piss then eh lol
Sure. But I don't remember anyone boasting about laughing at someone crying.fuck me mate come on play the game don’t just do one side of the coin yr a fair man I cud list lots of shite remainders have said about leavers you know it’s two sided ffs
You do, constantly. All you do on here. A leaver boasts about laughing at people crying, I question it, and you jump straight on with "what about remainers".
You are the definition of "one side of the coin"pkies your opinion so if I’m definition of one side of the coin are you not the other side ?
Maybe, but I don't tell people "what about leavers" everytime they post something. I try to address the point they're making.well that’s where we are different I prefer both sides of the coin rather than just one
Then how would you have suggested I present the point to the guy boasting about laughing at people crying?
just present a similar point when someone is having a pop at a leaver
Firstly. I don't associate bragging about laughing at someone crying with leavers or with remainers.
Secondly, why would pointing out someone having a go at a leaver be on anyway relevant to the point that it's a shitty thing to do to boast about laughing at someone crying. I agree it is a shitty thing to do but I can think of way worse things said on here tbh "I might take him a little more seriously if he ever gave an actual example of how he is worse off because of Brexit. Thats why I'm laughing | |||
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"Why do you want leavers to be silent then Fabio ? I don’t.... what I would like is for leavers to acknowledge you threw Northern Ireland under the bus to get your brexit dream Own the reality... don’t pretend it didn’t happen ok I acknowledge I threw NI under the bus to get my brexit deal does that help you does it achieve anything or is it just fab politics bullshit ? I’d suggest it was the first bit of honesty, brutal honesty from a Brexiteer - I hope it was cathartic for you. Maybe the rest of you could own up to the reasons for your own selfishness?
Honestly I'm laughing at the salty tears.
Brutally honestly.
Laughing at someone on tears is a good thing now?
Welcome to brexit Britain.because remainers don’t take the piss then eh lol
Sure. But I don't remember anyone boasting about laughing at someone crying.fuck me mate come on play the game don’t just do one side of the coin yr a fair man I cud list lots of shite remainders have said about leavers you know it’s two sided ffs
You do, constantly. All you do on here. A leaver boasts about laughing at people crying, I question it, and you jump straight on with "what about remainers".
You are the definition of "one side of the coin"pkies your opinion so if I’m definition of one side of the coin are you not the other side ?
Maybe, but I don't tell people "what about leavers" everytime they post something. I try to address the point they're making.well that’s where we are different I prefer both sides of the coin rather than just one
Then how would you have suggested I present the point to the guy boasting about laughing at people crying?
just present a similar point when someone is having a pop at a leaver
Firstly. I don't associate bragging about laughing at someone crying with leavers or with remainers.
Secondly, why would pointing out someone having a go at a leaver be on anyway relevant to the point that it's a shitty thing to do to boast about laughing at someone crying. I agree it is a shitty thing to do but I can think of way worse things said on here tbh "Laughing at people he thinks are crying is all he has, it is sad to see | |||
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"Why do you want leavers to be silent then Fabio ? I don’t.... what I would like is for leavers to acknowledge you threw Northern Ireland under the bus to get your brexit dream Own the reality... don’t pretend it didn’t happen ok I acknowledge I threw NI under the bus to get my brexit deal does that help you does it achieve anything or is it just fab politics bullshit ? I’d suggest it was the first bit of honesty, brutal honesty from a Brexiteer - I hope it was cathartic for you. Maybe the rest of you could own up to the reasons for your own selfishness?
Honestly I'm laughing at the salty tears.
Brutally honestly.
Laughing at someone on tears is a good thing now?
Welcome to brexit Britain.because remainers don’t take the piss then eh lol
Sure. But I don't remember anyone boasting about laughing at someone crying.fuck me mate come on play the game don’t just do one side of the coin yr a fair man I cud list lots of shite remainders have said about leavers you know it’s two sided ffs
You do, constantly. All you do on here. A leaver boasts about laughing at people crying, I question it, and you jump straight on with "what about remainers".
You are the definition of "one side of the coin"pkies your opinion so if I’m definition of one side of the coin are you not the other side ?
Maybe, but I don't tell people "what about leavers" everytime they post something. I try to address the point they're making.well that’s where we are different I prefer both sides of the coin rather than just one
Then how would you have suggested I present the point to the guy boasting about laughing at people crying?
just present a similar point when someone is having a pop at a leaver
Firstly. I don't associate bragging about laughing at someone crying with leavers or with remainers.
Secondly, why would pointing out someone having a go at a leaver be on anyway relevant to the point that it's a shitty thing to do to boast about laughing at someone crying. I agree it is a shitty thing to do but I can think of way worse things said on here tbh
I might take him a little more seriously if he ever gave an actual example of how he is worse off because of Brexit.
Thats why I'm laughing "1. I have no opinion of how serious you take me. 2. If I showed you how I was worse off from brexit would you either. A. Laugh more at people crying, B. Laugh less at people crying, or C. Laugh the same amount at people crying? | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? Irrelevant, without Brexit the problem doesn’t exist , so Brexit is the cause , all of this was predicted so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise It's not irrelevant. Brexit had happened. So why not just answer the question? Because you won't, which is why these threads are a waste of time. You just like going round and round. I thought I would try again, but as Lionel says, 'its pointless'. Here is my answer, the UK shouldn’t have agreed to the deal , the onus is on the UK government to best serve it’s citizens the onus is on the EU to best serve their member states citizens . Brexit has caused a preventable problem, this is a fact . But the EU ignored a letter by one of 'their' states, from one that was in the transition, saying what would happen if they continued with using them as a bargaining chip. The UK did not ignore the majority of its citizens. The majority of UK citizens wanted a NI border? Here is an indisputable fact, Brexit , as predicted , caused this problem . " Read what I said! The UK and by that you include it's citizens, did not want, nor see the need for a border between the ROI and NI. That was it's stance all the way through the negotiations and before. The EU insisted on a border, being a protectionist conglomerate. The EU ignored one of 'its own states' which asked not to make it part of the negotiations. This was ignored, probably because it didn't suit the EU agenda. Now, perhaps you understand why many in this country voted leave. One of many reasons. The EU like nothing more than a game of oneupmanship. If they hadn't sent Cameron home with tail between his legs, Brexit would never have happened. But the UK, the people within it, the majority decided to change EU to Fu. | |||
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"Why do you want leavers to be silent then Fabio ? I don’t.... what I would like is for leavers to acknowledge you threw Northern Ireland under the bus to get your brexit dream Own the reality... don’t pretend it didn’t happen ok I acknowledge I threw NI under the bus to get my brexit deal does that help you does it achieve anything or is it just fab politics bullshit ? I’d suggest it was the first bit of honesty, brutal honesty from a Brexiteer - I hope it was cathartic for you. Maybe the rest of you could own up to the reasons for your own selfishness?
Honestly I'm laughing at the salty tears.
Brutally honestly.
Laughing at someone on tears is a good thing now?
Welcome to brexit Britain.because remainers don’t take the piss then eh lol
Sure. But I don't remember anyone boasting about laughing at someone crying.fuck me mate come on play the game don’t just do one side of the coin yr a fair man I cud list lots of shite remainders have said about leavers you know it’s two sided ffs
You do, constantly. All you do on here. A leaver boasts about laughing at people crying, I question it, and you jump straight on with "what about remainers".
You are the definition of "one side of the coin"pkies your opinion so if I’m definition of one side of the coin are you not the other side ?
Maybe, but I don't tell people "what about leavers" everytime they post something. I try to address the point they're making.well that’s where we are different I prefer both sides of the coin rather than just one
Then how would you have suggested I present the point to the guy boasting about laughing at people crying?
just present a similar point when someone is having a pop at a leaver
Firstly. I don't associate bragging about laughing at someone crying with leavers or with remainers.
Secondly, why would pointing out someone having a go at a leaver be on anyway relevant to the point that it's a shitty thing to do to boast about laughing at someone crying. I agree it is a shitty thing to do but I can think of way worse things said on here tbh
I might take him a little more seriously if he ever gave an actual example of how he is worse off because of Brexit.
Thats why I'm laughing
1. I have no opinion of how serious you take me.
2. If I showed you how I was worse off from brexit would you either. A. Laugh more at people crying, B. Laugh less at people crying, or C. Laugh the same amount at people crying?"Says it all Not worse off at all Got it | |||
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"Why do you want leavers to be silent then Fabio ? I don’t.... what I would like is for leavers to acknowledge you threw Northern Ireland under the bus to get your brexit dream Own the reality... don’t pretend it didn’t happen ok I acknowledge I threw NI under the bus to get my brexit deal does that help you does it achieve anything or is it just fab politics bullshit ? I’d suggest it was the first bit of honesty, brutal honesty from a Brexiteer - I hope it was cathartic for you. Maybe the rest of you could own up to the reasons for your own selfishness?
Honestly I'm laughing at the salty tears.
Brutally honestly.
Laughing at someone on tears is a good thing now?
Welcome to brexit Britain.because remainers don’t take the piss then eh lol
Sure. But I don't remember anyone boasting about laughing at someone crying.fuck me mate come on play the game don’t just do one side of the coin yr a fair man I cud list lots of shite remainders have said about leavers you know it’s two sided ffs
You do, constantly. All you do on here. A leaver boasts about laughing at people crying, I question it, and you jump straight on with "what about remainers".
You are the definition of "one side of the coin"pkies your opinion so if I’m definition of one side of the coin are you not the other side ?
Maybe, but I don't tell people "what about leavers" everytime they post something. I try to address the point they're making.well that’s where we are different I prefer both sides of the coin rather than just one
Then how would you have suggested I present the point to the guy boasting about laughing at people crying?
just present a similar point when someone is having a pop at a leaver
Firstly. I don't associate bragging about laughing at someone crying with leavers or with remainers.
Secondly, why would pointing out someone having a go at a leaver be on anyway relevant to the point that it's a shitty thing to do to boast about laughing at someone crying. I agree it is a shitty thing to do but I can think of way worse things said on here tbh
I might take him a little more seriously if he ever gave an actual example of how he is worse off because of Brexit.
Thats why I'm laughing
1. I have no opinion of how serious you take me.
2. If I showed you how I was worse off from brexit would you either. A. Laugh more at people crying, B. Laugh less at people crying, or C. Laugh the same amount at people crying?
Says it all
Not worse off at all
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? Irrelevant, without Brexit the problem doesn’t exist , so Brexit is the cause , all of this was predicted so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise It's not irrelevant. Brexit had happened. So why not just answer the question? Because you won't, which is why these threads are a waste of time. You just like going round and round. I thought I would try again, but as Lionel says, 'its pointless'. Here is my answer, the UK shouldn’t have agreed to the deal , the onus is on the UK government to best serve it’s citizens the onus is on the EU to best serve their member states citizens . Brexit has caused a preventable problem, this is a fact . But the EU ignored a letter by one of 'their' states, from one that was in the transition, saying what would happen if they continued with using them as a bargaining chip. The UK did not ignore the majority of its citizens. The majority of UK citizens wanted a NI border? Here is an indisputable fact, Brexit , as predicted , caused this problem . Read what I said! The UK and by that you include it's citizens, did not want, nor see the need for a border between the ROI and NI. That was it's stance all the way through the negotiations and before. The EU insisted on a border, being a protectionist conglomerate. The EU ignored one of 'its own states' which asked not to make it part of the negotiations. This was ignored, probably because it didn't suit the EU agenda. Now, perhaps you understand why many in this country voted leave. One of many reasons. The EU like nothing more than a game of oneupmanship. If they hadn't sent Cameron home with tail between his legs, Brexit would never have happened. But the UK, the people within it, the majority decided to change EU to Fu. " Read the OP. This about Brexit slogans that turned out to be false, one of these slogans was said by Boris ( the Brexit chief) that there wouldn’t be a NI border, because of Brexit there is now a NI border . Fact | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? Irrelevant, without Brexit the problem doesn’t exist , so Brexit is the cause , all of this was predicted so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise It's not irrelevant. Brexit had happened. So why not just answer the question? Because you won't, which is why these threads are a waste of time. You just like going round and round. I thought I would try again, but as Lionel says, 'its pointless'. Here is my answer, the UK shouldn’t have agreed to the deal , the onus is on the UK government to best serve it’s citizens the onus is on the EU to best serve their member states citizens . Brexit has caused a preventable problem, this is a fact . But the EU ignored a letter by one of 'their' states, from one that was in the transition, saying what would happen if they continued with using them as a bargaining chip. The UK did not ignore the majority of its citizens. The majority of UK citizens wanted a NI border? Here is an indisputable fact, Brexit , as predicted , caused this problem . Read what I said! The UK and by that you include it's citizens, did not want, nor see the need for a border between the ROI and NI. That was it's stance all the way through the negotiations and before. The EU insisted on a border, being a protectionist conglomerate. The EU ignored one of 'its own states' which asked not to make it part of the negotiations. This was ignored, probably because it didn't suit the EU agenda. Now, perhaps you understand why many in this country voted leave. One of many reasons. The EU like nothing more than a game of oneupmanship. If they hadn't sent Cameron home with tail between his legs, Brexit would never have happened. But the UK, the people within it, the majority decided to change EU to Fu. exactly why we had a referendum Cameron got sent home with fuck that’s why we have Brexit the eu gambled and lost " We all lost. Cameron wasn’t up for the job but the EU should have tried harder to find a solution . Nobody is the winner | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? Irrelevant, without Brexit the problem doesn’t exist , so Brexit is the cause , all of this was predicted so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise It's not irrelevant. Brexit had happened. So why not just answer the question? Because you won't, which is why these threads are a waste of time. You just like going round and round. I thought I would try again, but as Lionel says, 'its pointless'. Here is my answer, the UK shouldn’t have agreed to the deal , the onus is on the UK government to best serve it’s citizens the onus is on the EU to best serve their member states citizens . Brexit has caused a preventable problem, this is a fact . But the EU ignored a letter by one of 'their' states, from one that was in the transition, saying what would happen if they continued with using them as a bargaining chip. The UK did not ignore the majority of its citizens. The majority of UK citizens wanted a NI border? Here is an indisputable fact, Brexit , as predicted , caused this problem . Read what I said! The UK and by that you include it's citizens, did not want, nor see the need for a border between the ROI and NI. That was it's stance all the way through the negotiations and before. The EU insisted on a border, being a protectionist conglomerate. The EU ignored one of 'its own states' which asked not to make it part of the negotiations. This was ignored, probably because it didn't suit the EU agenda. Now, perhaps you understand why many in this country voted leave. One of many reasons. The EU like nothing more than a game of oneupmanship. If they hadn't sent Cameron home with tail between his legs, Brexit would never have happened. But the UK, the people within it, the majority decided to change EU to Fu. Read the OP. This about Brexit slogans that turned out to be false, one of these slogans was said by Boris ( the Brexit chief) that there wouldn’t be a NI border, because of Brexit there is now a NI border . Fact " didn’t Osborn do one about half a million jobs going day after a leave vote ? | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? Irrelevant, without Brexit the problem doesn’t exist , so Brexit is the cause , all of this was predicted so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise It's not irrelevant. Brexit had happened. So why not just answer the question? Because you won't, which is why these threads are a waste of time. You just like going round and round. I thought I would try again, but as Lionel says, 'its pointless'. Here is my answer, the UK shouldn’t have agreed to the deal , the onus is on the UK government to best serve it’s citizens the onus is on the EU to best serve their member states citizens . Brexit has caused a preventable problem, this is a fact . But the EU ignored a letter by one of 'their' states, from one that was in the transition, saying what would happen if they continued with using them as a bargaining chip. The UK did not ignore the majority of its citizens. The majority of UK citizens wanted a NI border? Here is an indisputable fact, Brexit , as predicted , caused this problem . Read what I said! The UK and by that you include it's citizens, did not want, nor see the need for a border between the ROI and NI. That was it's stance all the way through the negotiations and before. The EU insisted on a border, being a protectionist conglomerate. The EU ignored one of 'its own states' which asked not to make it part of the negotiations. This was ignored, probably because it didn't suit the EU agenda. Now, perhaps you understand why many in this country voted leave. One of many reasons. The EU like nothing more than a game of oneupmanship. If they hadn't sent Cameron home with tail between his legs, Brexit would never have happened. But the UK, the people within it, the majority decided to change EU to Fu. Read the OP. This about Brexit slogans that turned out to be false, one of these slogans was said by Boris ( the Brexit chief) that there wouldn’t be a NI border, because of Brexit there is now a NI border . Fact didn’t Osborn do one about half a million jobs going day after a leave vote ?" (Reuters) - Britain would lose at least half a million jobs within two years of a vote to leave the European Union and a fall in the value of the pound would push up inflation sharply, finance minister George Osborne said on Monday. He was wrong about the number of job losses. We had some, but not this amount. | |||
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"Why do you want leavers to be silent then Fabio ? I don’t.... what I would like is for leavers to acknowledge you threw Northern Ireland under the bus to get your brexit dream Own the reality... don’t pretend it didn’t happen ok I acknowledge I threw NI under the bus to get my brexit deal does that help you does it achieve anything or is it just fab politics bullshit ? I’d suggest it was the first bit of honesty, brutal honesty from a Brexiteer - I hope it was cathartic for you. Maybe the rest of you could own up to the reasons for your own selfishness?
Honestly I'm laughing at the salty tears.
Brutally honestly.
Laughing at someone on tears is a good thing now?
Welcome to brexit Britain.because remainers don’t take the piss then eh lol
Sure. But I don't remember anyone boasting about laughing at someone crying.fuck me mate come on play the game don’t just do one side of the coin yr a fair man I cud list lots of shite remainders have said about leavers you know it’s two sided ffs
You do, constantly. All you do on here. A leaver boasts about laughing at people crying, I question it, and you jump straight on with "what about remainers".
You are the definition of "one side of the coin"pkies your opinion so if I’m definition of one side of the coin are you not the other side ?
Maybe, but I don't tell people "what about leavers" everytime they post something. I try to address the point they're making.well that’s where we are different I prefer both sides of the coin rather than just one
Then how would you have suggested I present the point to the guy boasting about laughing at people crying?
just present a similar point when someone is having a pop at a leaver
Firstly. I don't associate bragging about laughing at someone crying with leavers or with remainers.
Secondly, why would pointing out someone having a go at a leaver be on anyway relevant to the point that it's a shitty thing to do to boast about laughing at someone crying. I agree it is a shitty thing to do but I can think of way worse things said on here tbh
I might take him a little more seriously if he ever gave an actual example of how he is worse off because of Brexit.
Thats why I'm laughing
1. I have no opinion of how serious you take me.
2. If I showed you how I was worse off from brexit would you either. A. Laugh more at people crying, B. Laugh less at people crying, or C. Laugh the same amount at people crying?
Says it all
Not worse off at all
Got it
I think you replied to the wrong person
I asked you a question about your posts where you brag about laughing at people crying."I laugh at people crying about nothing, yes, it's funny. | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? Irrelevant, without Brexit the problem doesn’t exist , so Brexit is the cause , all of this was predicted so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise It's not irrelevant. Brexit had happened. So why not just answer the question? Because you won't, which is why these threads are a waste of time. You just like going round and round. I thought I would try again, but as Lionel says, 'its pointless'. Here is my answer, the UK shouldn’t have agreed to the deal , the onus is on the UK government to best serve it’s citizens the onus is on the EU to best serve their member states citizens . Brexit has caused a preventable problem, this is a fact . But the EU ignored a letter by one of 'their' states, from one that was in the transition, saying what would happen if they continued with using them as a bargaining chip. The UK did not ignore the majority of its citizens. The majority of UK citizens wanted a NI border? Here is an indisputable fact, Brexit , as predicted , caused this problem . Read what I said! The UK and by that you include it's citizens, did not want, nor see the need for a border between the ROI and NI. That was it's stance all the way through the negotiations and before. The EU insisted on a border, being a protectionist conglomerate. The EU ignored one of 'its own states' which asked not to make it part of the negotiations. This was ignored, probably because it didn't suit the EU agenda. Now, perhaps you understand why many in this country voted leave. One of many reasons. The EU like nothing more than a game of oneupmanship. If they hadn't sent Cameron home with tail between his legs, Brexit would never have happened. But the UK, the people within it, the majority decided to change EU to Fu. Read the OP. This about Brexit slogans that turned out to be false, one of these slogans was said by Boris ( the Brexit chief) that there wouldn’t be a NI border, because of Brexit there is now a NI border . Fact didn’t Osborn do one about half a million jobs going day after a leave vote ?" Probably, and he was wrong, but you should never believe a Tory chancellor | |||
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"Why do you want leavers to be silent then Fabio ? I don’t.... what I would like is for leavers to acknowledge you threw Northern Ireland under the bus to get your brexit dream Own the reality... don’t pretend it didn’t happen ok I acknowledge I threw NI under the bus to get my brexit deal does that help you does it achieve anything or is it just fab politics bullshit ? I’d suggest it was the first bit of honesty, brutal honesty from a Brexiteer - I hope it was cathartic for you. Maybe the rest of you could own up to the reasons for your own selfishness?
Honestly I'm laughing at the salty tears.
Brutally honestly.
Laughing at someone on tears is a good thing now?
Welcome to brexit Britain.because remainers don’t take the piss then eh lol
Sure. But I don't remember anyone boasting about laughing at someone crying.fuck me mate come on play the game don’t just do one side of the coin yr a fair man I cud list lots of shite remainders have said about leavers you know it’s two sided ffs
You do, constantly. All you do on here. A leaver boasts about laughing at people crying, I question it, and you jump straight on with "what about remainers".
You are the definition of "one side of the coin"pkies your opinion so if I’m definition of one side of the coin are you not the other side ?
Maybe, but I don't tell people "what about leavers" everytime they post something. I try to address the point they're making.well that’s where we are different I prefer both sides of the coin rather than just one
Then how would you have suggested I present the point to the guy boasting about laughing at people crying?
just present a similar point when someone is having a pop at a leaver
Firstly. I don't associate bragging about laughing at someone crying with leavers or with remainers.
Secondly, why would pointing out someone having a go at a leaver be on anyway relevant to the point that it's a shitty thing to do to boast about laughing at someone crying. I agree it is a shitty thing to do but I can think of way worse things said on here tbh
I might take him a little more seriously if he ever gave an actual example of how he is worse off because of Brexit.
Thats why I'm laughing
1. I have no opinion of how serious you take me.
2. If I showed you how I was worse off from brexit would you either. A. Laugh more at people crying, B. Laugh less at people crying, or C. Laugh the same amount at people crying?
Says it all
Not worse off at all
Got it
I think you replied to the wrong person
I asked you a question about your posts where you brag about laughing at people crying.
I laugh at people crying about nothing, yes, it's funny. "You laugh at people crying? Sad to see | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? Irrelevant, without Brexit the problem doesn’t exist , so Brexit is the cause , all of this was predicted so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise It's not irrelevant. Brexit had happened. So why not just answer the question? Because you won't, which is why these threads are a waste of time. You just like going round and round. I thought I would try again, but as Lionel says, 'its pointless'. Here is my answer, the UK shouldn’t have agreed to the deal , the onus is on the UK government to best serve it’s citizens the onus is on the EU to best serve their member states citizens . Brexit has caused a preventable problem, this is a fact . But the EU ignored a letter by one of 'their' states, from one that was in the transition, saying what would happen if they continued with using them as a bargaining chip. The UK did not ignore the majority of its citizens. The majority of UK citizens wanted a NI border? Here is an indisputable fact, Brexit , as predicted , caused this problem . Read what I said! The UK and by that you include it's citizens, did not want, nor see the need for a border between the ROI and NI. That was it's stance all the way through the negotiations and before. The EU insisted on a border, being a protectionist conglomerate. The EU ignored one of 'its own states' which asked not to make it part of the negotiations. This was ignored, probably because it didn't suit the EU agenda. Now, perhaps you understand why many in this country voted leave. One of many reasons. The EU like nothing more than a game of oneupmanship. If they hadn't sent Cameron home with tail between his legs, Brexit would never have happened. But the UK, the people within it, the majority decided to change EU to Fu. Read the OP. This about Brexit slogans that turned out to be false, one of these slogans was said by Boris ( the Brexit chief) that there wouldn’t be a NI border, because of Brexit there is now a NI border . Fact " Boris didn't put a border in. | |||
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"Why do you want leavers to be silent then Fabio ? I don’t.... what I would like is for leavers to acknowledge you threw Northern Ireland under the bus to get your brexit dream Own the reality... don’t pretend it didn’t happen ok I acknowledge I threw NI under the bus to get my brexit deal does that help you does it achieve anything or is it just fab politics bullshit ? I’d suggest it was the first bit of honesty, brutal honesty from a Brexiteer - I hope it was cathartic for you. Maybe the rest of you could own up to the reasons for your own selfishness?
Honestly I'm laughing at the salty tears.
Brutally honestly.
Laughing at someone on tears is a good thing now?
Welcome to brexit Britain.because remainers don’t take the piss then eh lol
Sure. But I don't remember anyone boasting about laughing at someone crying.fuck me mate come on play the game don’t just do one side of the coin yr a fair man I cud list lots of shite remainders have said about leavers you know it’s two sided ffs
You do, constantly. All you do on here. A leaver boasts about laughing at people crying, I question it, and you jump straight on with "what about remainers".
You are the definition of "one side of the coin"pkies your opinion so if I’m definition of one side of the coin are you not the other side ?
Maybe, but I don't tell people "what about leavers" everytime they post something. I try to address the point they're making.well that’s where we are different I prefer both sides of the coin rather than just one
Then how would you have suggested I present the point to the guy boasting about laughing at people crying?
just present a similar point when someone is having a pop at a leaver
Firstly. I don't associate bragging about laughing at someone crying with leavers or with remainers.
Secondly, why would pointing out someone having a go at a leaver be on anyway relevant to the point that it's a shitty thing to do to boast about laughing at someone crying. I agree it is a shitty thing to do but I can think of way worse things said on here tbh
I might take him a little more seriously if he ever gave an actual example of how he is worse off because of Brexit.
Thats why I'm laughing
1. I have no opinion of how serious you take me.
2. If I showed you how I was worse off from brexit would you either. A. Laugh more at people crying, B. Laugh less at people crying, or C. Laugh the same amount at people crying?
Says it all
Not worse off at all
Got it
I think you replied to the wrong person
I asked you a question about your posts where you brag about laughing at people crying.
I laugh at people crying about nothing, yes, it's funny. "Who is crying, and who is crying about nothing? | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? Irrelevant, without Brexit the problem doesn’t exist , so Brexit is the cause , all of this was predicted so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise It's not irrelevant. Brexit had happened. So why not just answer the question? Because you won't, which is why these threads are a waste of time. You just like going round and round. I thought I would try again, but as Lionel says, 'its pointless'. Here is my answer, the UK shouldn’t have agreed to the deal , the onus is on the UK government to best serve it’s citizens the onus is on the EU to best serve their member states citizens . Brexit has caused a preventable problem, this is a fact . But the EU ignored a letter by one of 'their' states, from one that was in the transition, saying what would happen if they continued with using them as a bargaining chip. The UK did not ignore the majority of its citizens. The majority of UK citizens wanted a NI border? Here is an indisputable fact, Brexit , as predicted , caused this problem . Read what I said! The UK and by that you include it's citizens, did not want, nor see the need for a border between the ROI and NI. That was it's stance all the way through the negotiations and before. The EU insisted on a border, being a protectionist conglomerate. The EU ignored one of 'its own states' which asked not to make it part of the negotiations. This was ignored, probably because it didn't suit the EU agenda. Now, perhaps you understand why many in this country voted leave. One of many reasons. The EU like nothing more than a game of oneupmanship. If they hadn't sent Cameron home with tail between his legs, Brexit would never have happened. But the UK, the people within it, the majority decided to change EU to Fu. Read the OP. This about Brexit slogans that turned out to be false, one of these slogans was said by Boris ( the Brexit chief) that there wouldn’t be a NI border, because of Brexit there is now a NI border . Fact didn’t Osborn do one about half a million jobs going day after a leave vote ? Probably, and he was wrong, but you should never believe a Tory chancellor "Not even a remain one. | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? Irrelevant, without Brexit the problem doesn’t exist , so Brexit is the cause , all of this was predicted so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise It's not irrelevant. Brexit had happened. So why not just answer the question? Because you won't, which is why these threads are a waste of time. You just like going round and round. I thought I would try again, but as Lionel says, 'its pointless'. Here is my answer, the UK shouldn’t have agreed to the deal , the onus is on the UK government to best serve it’s citizens the onus is on the EU to best serve their member states citizens . Brexit has caused a preventable problem, this is a fact . But the EU ignored a letter by one of 'their' states, from one that was in the transition, saying what would happen if they continued with using them as a bargaining chip. The UK did not ignore the majority of its citizens. The majority of UK citizens wanted a NI border? Here is an indisputable fact, Brexit , as predicted , caused this problem . Read what I said! The UK and by that you include it's citizens, did not want, nor see the need for a border between the ROI and NI. That was it's stance all the way through the negotiations and before. The EU insisted on a border, being a protectionist conglomerate. The EU ignored one of 'its own states' which asked not to make it part of the negotiations. This was ignored, probably because it didn't suit the EU agenda. Now, perhaps you understand why many in this country voted leave. One of many reasons. The EU like nothing more than a game of oneupmanship. If they hadn't sent Cameron home with tail between his legs, Brexit would never have happened. But the UK, the people within it, the majority decided to change EU to Fu. Read the OP. This about Brexit slogans that turned out to be false, one of these slogans was said by Boris ( the Brexit chief) that there wouldn’t be a NI border, because of Brexit there is now a NI border . Fact Boris didn't put a border in." Brexit did . | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? Irrelevant, without Brexit the problem doesn’t exist , so Brexit is the cause , all of this was predicted so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise It's not irrelevant. Brexit had happened. So why not just answer the question? Because you won't, which is why these threads are a waste of time. You just like going round and round. I thought I would try again, but as Lionel says, 'its pointless'. Here is my answer, the UK shouldn’t have agreed to the deal , the onus is on the UK government to best serve it’s citizens the onus is on the EU to best serve their member states citizens . Brexit has caused a preventable problem, this is a fact . But the EU ignored a letter by one of 'their' states, from one that was in the transition, saying what would happen if they continued with using them as a bargaining chip. The UK did not ignore the majority of its citizens. The majority of UK citizens wanted a NI border? Here is an indisputable fact, Brexit , as predicted , caused this problem . Read what I said! The UK and by that you include it's citizens, did not want, nor see the need for a border between the ROI and NI. That was it's stance all the way through the negotiations and before. The EU insisted on a border, being a protectionist conglomerate. The EU ignored one of 'its own states' which asked not to make it part of the negotiations. This was ignored, probably because it didn't suit the EU agenda. Now, perhaps you understand why many in this country voted leave. One of many reasons. The EU like nothing more than a game of oneupmanship. If they hadn't sent Cameron home with tail between his legs, Brexit would never have happened. But the UK, the people within it, the majority decided to change EU to Fu. Read the OP. This about Brexit slogans that turned out to be false, one of these slogans was said by Boris ( the Brexit chief) that there wouldn’t be a NI border, because of Brexit there is now a NI border . Fact didn’t Osborn do one about half a million jobs going day after a leave vote ? Probably, and he was wrong, but you should never believe a Tory chancellor "i never believe any politician 100% take what most with a pinch of salt like I did with all the slogans as I suspect you did amd most people tbh | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? Irrelevant, without Brexit the problem doesn’t exist , so Brexit is the cause , all of this was predicted so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise It's not irrelevant. Brexit had happened. So why not just answer the question? Because you won't, which is why these threads are a waste of time. You just like going round and round. I thought I would try again, but as Lionel says, 'its pointless'. Here is my answer, the UK shouldn’t have agreed to the deal , the onus is on the UK government to best serve it’s citizens the onus is on the EU to best serve their member states citizens . Brexit has caused a preventable problem, this is a fact . But the EU ignored a letter by one of 'their' states, from one that was in the transition, saying what would happen if they continued with using them as a bargaining chip. The UK did not ignore the majority of its citizens. The majority of UK citizens wanted a NI border? Here is an indisputable fact, Brexit , as predicted , caused this problem . Read what I said! The UK and by that you include it's citizens, did not want, nor see the need for a border between the ROI and NI. That was it's stance all the way through the negotiations and before. The EU insisted on a border, being a protectionist conglomerate. The EU ignored one of 'its own states' which asked not to make it part of the negotiations. This was ignored, probably because it didn't suit the EU agenda. Now, perhaps you understand why many in this country voted leave. One of many reasons. The EU like nothing more than a game of oneupmanship. If they hadn't sent Cameron home with tail between his legs, Brexit would never have happened. But the UK, the people within it, the majority decided to change EU to Fu. Read the OP. This about Brexit slogans that turned out to be false, one of these slogans was said by Boris ( the Brexit chief) that there wouldn’t be a NI border, because of Brexit there is now a NI border . Fact Boris didn't put a border in." He did, he agreed to it. But even if he didn't, to say that we wouldn't have one, and now we do. Was just another brexit lie. | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? Irrelevant, without Brexit the problem doesn’t exist , so Brexit is the cause , all of this was predicted so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise It's not irrelevant. Brexit had happened. So why not just answer the question? Because you won't, which is why these threads are a waste of time. You just like going round and round. I thought I would try again, but as Lionel says, 'its pointless'. Here is my answer, the UK shouldn’t have agreed to the deal , the onus is on the UK government to best serve it’s citizens the onus is on the EU to best serve their member states citizens . Brexit has caused a preventable problem, this is a fact . But the EU ignored a letter by one of 'their' states, from one that was in the transition, saying what would happen if they continued with using them as a bargaining chip. The UK did not ignore the majority of its citizens. The majority of UK citizens wanted a NI border? Here is an indisputable fact, Brexit , as predicted , caused this problem . Read what I said! The UK and by that you include it's citizens, did not want, nor see the need for a border between the ROI and NI. That was it's stance all the way through the negotiations and before. The EU insisted on a border, being a protectionist conglomerate. The EU ignored one of 'its own states' which asked not to make it part of the negotiations. This was ignored, probably because it didn't suit the EU agenda. Now, perhaps you understand why many in this country voted leave. One of many reasons. The EU like nothing more than a game of oneupmanship. If they hadn't sent Cameron home with tail between his legs, Brexit would never have happened. But the UK, the people within it, the majority decided to change EU to Fu. Read the OP. This about Brexit slogans that turned out to be false, one of these slogans was said by Boris ( the Brexit chief) that there wouldn’t be a NI border, because of Brexit there is now a NI border . Fact didn’t Osborn do one about half a million jobs going day after a leave vote ? Probably, and he was wrong, but you should never believe a Tory chancellor Not even a remain one. "Never believe a Tory chancellor, full stop | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? Irrelevant, without Brexit the problem doesn’t exist , so Brexit is the cause , all of this was predicted so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise It's not irrelevant. Brexit had happened. So why not just answer the question? Because you won't, which is why these threads are a waste of time. You just like going round and round. I thought I would try again, but as Lionel says, 'its pointless'. Here is my answer, the UK shouldn’t have agreed to the deal , the onus is on the UK government to best serve it’s citizens the onus is on the EU to best serve their member states citizens . Brexit has caused a preventable problem, this is a fact . But the EU ignored a letter by one of 'their' states, from one that was in the transition, saying what would happen if they continued with using them as a bargaining chip. The UK did not ignore the majority of its citizens. The majority of UK citizens wanted a NI border? Here is an indisputable fact, Brexit , as predicted , caused this problem . Read what I said! The UK and by that you include it's citizens, did not want, nor see the need for a border between the ROI and NI. That was it's stance all the way through the negotiations and before. The EU insisted on a border, being a protectionist conglomerate. The EU ignored one of 'its own states' which asked not to make it part of the negotiations. This was ignored, probably because it didn't suit the EU agenda. Now, perhaps you understand why many in this country voted leave. One of many reasons. The EU like nothing more than a game of oneupmanship. If they hadn't sent Cameron home with tail between his legs, Brexit would never have happened. But the UK, the people within it, the majority decided to change EU to Fu. Read the OP. This about Brexit slogans that turned out to be false, one of these slogans was said by Boris ( the Brexit chief) that there wouldn’t be a NI border, because of Brexit there is now a NI border . Fact didn’t Osborn do one about half a million jobs going day after a leave vote ? Probably, and he was wrong, but you should never believe a Tory chancellor Not even a remain one. "
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? Irrelevant, without Brexit the problem doesn’t exist , so Brexit is the cause , all of this was predicted so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise It's not irrelevant. Brexit had happened. So why not just answer the question? Because you won't, which is why these threads are a waste of time. You just like going round and round. I thought I would try again, but as Lionel says, 'its pointless'. Here is my answer, the UK shouldn’t have agreed to the deal , the onus is on the UK government to best serve it’s citizens the onus is on the EU to best serve their member states citizens . Brexit has caused a preventable problem, this is a fact . But the EU ignored a letter by one of 'their' states, from one that was in the transition, saying what would happen if they continued with using them as a bargaining chip. The UK did not ignore the majority of its citizens. The majority of UK citizens wanted a NI border? Here is an indisputable fact, Brexit , as predicted , caused this problem . Read what I said! The UK and by that you include it's citizens, did not want, nor see the need for a border between the ROI and NI. That was it's stance all the way through the negotiations and before. The EU insisted on a border, being a protectionist conglomerate. The EU ignored one of 'its own states' which asked not to make it part of the negotiations. This was ignored, probably because it didn't suit the EU agenda. Now, perhaps you understand why many in this country voted leave. One of many reasons. The EU like nothing more than a game of oneupmanship. If they hadn't sent Cameron home with tail between his legs, Brexit would never have happened. But the UK, the people within it, the majority decided to change EU to Fu. Read the OP. This about Brexit slogans that turned out to be false, one of these slogans was said by Boris ( the Brexit chief) that there wouldn’t be a NI border, because of Brexit there is now a NI border . Fact didn’t Osborn do one about half a million jobs going day after a leave vote ? Probably, and he was wrong, but you should never believe a Tory chancellor i never believe any politician 100% take what most with a pinch of salt like I did with all the slogans as I suspect you did amd most people tbh "I wish that was the case, unfortunately there are some people who believed the lies on both sides , that is why a referendum wasn’t the best way to decide, | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? Irrelevant, without Brexit the problem doesn’t exist , so Brexit is the cause , all of this was predicted so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise It's not irrelevant. Brexit had happened. So why not just answer the question? Because you won't, which is why these threads are a waste of time. You just like going round and round. I thought I would try again, but as Lionel says, 'its pointless'. Here is my answer, the UK shouldn’t have agreed to the deal , the onus is on the UK government to best serve it’s citizens the onus is on the EU to best serve their member states citizens . Brexit has caused a preventable problem, this is a fact . But the EU ignored a letter by one of 'their' states, from one that was in the transition, saying what would happen if they continued with using them as a bargaining chip. The UK did not ignore the majority of its citizens. The majority of UK citizens wanted a NI border? Here is an indisputable fact, Brexit , as predicted , caused this problem . Read what I said! The UK and by that you include it's citizens, did not want, nor see the need for a border between the ROI and NI. That was it's stance all the way through the negotiations and before. The EU insisted on a border, being a protectionist conglomerate. The EU ignored one of 'its own states' which asked not to make it part of the negotiations. This was ignored, probably because it didn't suit the EU agenda. Now, perhaps you understand why many in this country voted leave. One of many reasons. The EU like nothing more than a game of oneupmanship. If they hadn't sent Cameron home with tail between his legs, Brexit would never have happened. But the UK, the people within it, the majority decided to change EU to Fu. Read the OP. This about Brexit slogans that turned out to be false, one of these slogans was said by Boris ( the Brexit chief) that there wouldn’t be a NI border, because of Brexit there is now a NI border . Fact didn’t Osborn do one about half a million jobs going day after a leave vote ? Probably, and he was wrong, but you should never believe a Tory chancellor i never believe any politician 100% take what most with a pinch of salt like I did with all the slogans as I suspect you did amd most people tbh
I wish that was the case, unfortunately there are some people who believed the lies on both sides , that is why a referendum wasn’t the best way to decide, "I think it was the case I think the some was a tiny minority most people either liked the eu or didn’t long before the vote it’s just a way of clinging to an unfair referendum mate | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? Irrelevant, without Brexit the problem doesn’t exist , so Brexit is the cause , all of this was predicted so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise It's not irrelevant. Brexit had happened. So why not just answer the question? Because you won't, which is why these threads are a waste of time. You just like going round and round. I thought I would try again, but as Lionel says, 'its pointless'. Here is my answer, the UK shouldn’t have agreed to the deal , the onus is on the UK government to best serve it’s citizens the onus is on the EU to best serve their member states citizens . Brexit has caused a preventable problem, this is a fact . But the EU ignored a letter by one of 'their' states, from one that was in the transition, saying what would happen if they continued with using them as a bargaining chip. The UK did not ignore the majority of its citizens. The majority of UK citizens wanted a NI border? Here is an indisputable fact, Brexit , as predicted , caused this problem . Read what I said! The UK and by that you include it's citizens, did not want, nor see the need for a border between the ROI and NI. That was it's stance all the way through the negotiations and before. The EU insisted on a border, being a protectionist conglomerate. The EU ignored one of 'its own states' which asked not to make it part of the negotiations. This was ignored, probably because it didn't suit the EU agenda. Now, perhaps you understand why many in this country voted leave. One of many reasons. The EU like nothing more than a game of oneupmanship. If they hadn't sent Cameron home with tail between his legs, Brexit would never have happened. But the UK, the people within it, the majority decided to change EU to Fu. Read the OP. This about Brexit slogans that turned out to be false, one of these slogans was said by Boris ( the Brexit chief) that there wouldn’t be a NI border, because of Brexit there is now a NI border . Fact didn’t Osborn do one about half a million jobs going day after a leave vote ? Probably, and he was wrong, but you should never believe a Tory chancellor i never believe any politician 100% take what most with a pinch of salt like I did with all the slogans as I suspect you did amd most people tbh
I wish that was the case, unfortunately there are some people who believed the lies on both sides , that is why a referendum wasn’t the best way to decide, I think it was the case I think the some was a tiny minority most people either liked the eu or didn’t long before the vote it’s just a way of clinging to an unfair referendum mate "True the anti EU propaganda and misinformation has been pushed down people's throats for the last 20 years. The problem is deeper and more ingrained than just the referendum campaigns. | |||
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I wish that was the case, unfortunately there are some people who believed the lies on both sides , that is why a referendum wasn’t the best way to decide, I think it was the case I think the some was a tiny minority most people either liked the eu or didn’t long before the vote it’s just a way of clinging to an unfair referendum mate "What has the referendum solved, do you think that it has created or healed division? Maybe there should have been a legally biding referendum without a leave or remain campaign sides . Just give people verified and indisputable facts and let them use these to make their decision. Lies were told on both sides, | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? Irrelevant, without Brexit the problem doesn’t exist , so Brexit is the cause , all of this was predicted so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise It's not irrelevant. Brexit had happened. So why not just answer the question? Because you won't, which is why these threads are a waste of time. You just like going round and round. I thought I would try again, but as Lionel says, 'its pointless'. Here is my answer, the UK shouldn’t have agreed to the deal , the onus is on the UK government to best serve it’s citizens the onus is on the EU to best serve their member states citizens . Brexit has caused a preventable problem, this is a fact . But the EU ignored a letter by one of 'their' states, from one that was in the transition, saying what would happen if they continued with using them as a bargaining chip. The UK did not ignore the majority of its citizens. The majority of UK citizens wanted a NI border? Here is an indisputable fact, Brexit , as predicted , caused this problem . Read what I said! The UK and by that you include it's citizens, did not want, nor see the need for a border between the ROI and NI. That was it's stance all the way through the negotiations and before. The EU insisted on a border, being a protectionist conglomerate. The EU ignored one of 'its own states' which asked not to make it part of the negotiations. This was ignored, probably because it didn't suit the EU agenda. Now, perhaps you understand why many in this country voted leave. One of many reasons. The EU like nothing more than a game of oneupmanship. If they hadn't sent Cameron home with tail between his legs, Brexit would never have happened. But the UK, the people within it, the majority decided to change EU to Fu. Read the OP. This about Brexit slogans that turned out to be false, one of these slogans was said by Boris ( the Brexit chief) that there wouldn’t be a NI border, because of Brexit there is now a NI border . Fact Boris didn't put a border in. He did, he agreed to it. But even if he didn't, to say that we wouldn't have one, and now we do. Was just another brexit lie." Bearing in mind we had already left the EU, was it better to leave after the transition with a 'no deal'? Which without an agreement is what would have happened. | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? Irrelevant, without Brexit the problem doesn’t exist , so Brexit is the cause , all of this was predicted so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise It's not irrelevant. Brexit had happened. So why not just answer the question? Because you won't, which is why these threads are a waste of time. You just like going round and round. I thought I would try again, but as Lionel says, 'its pointless'. Here is my answer, the UK shouldn’t have agreed to the deal , the onus is on the UK government to best serve it’s citizens the onus is on the EU to best serve their member states citizens . Brexit has caused a preventable problem, this is a fact . But the EU ignored a letter by one of 'their' states, from one that was in the transition, saying what would happen if they continued with using them as a bargaining chip. The UK did not ignore the majority of its citizens. The majority of UK citizens wanted a NI border? Here is an indisputable fact, Brexit , as predicted , caused this problem . Read what I said! The UK and by that you include it's citizens, did not want, nor see the need for a border between the ROI and NI. That was it's stance all the way through the negotiations and before. The EU insisted on a border, being a protectionist conglomerate. The EU ignored one of 'its own states' which asked not to make it part of the negotiations. This was ignored, probably because it didn't suit the EU agenda. Now, perhaps you understand why many in this country voted leave. One of many reasons. The EU like nothing more than a game of oneupmanship. If they hadn't sent Cameron home with tail between his legs, Brexit would never have happened. But the UK, the people within it, the majority decided to change EU to Fu. Read the OP. This about Brexit slogans that turned out to be false, one of these slogans was said by Boris ( the Brexit chief) that there wouldn’t be a NI border, because of Brexit there is now a NI border . Fact Boris didn't put a border in. He did, he agreed to it. But even if he didn't, to say that we wouldn't have one, and now we do. Was just another brexit lie. Bearing in mind we had already left the EU, was it better to leave after the transition with a 'no deal'? Which without an agreement is what would have happened." You keep missing the point of the thread . Why did Boris keep saying there would be no border? | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? Irrelevant, without Brexit the problem doesn’t exist , so Brexit is the cause , all of this was predicted so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise It's not irrelevant. Brexit had happened. So why not just answer the question? Because you won't, which is why these threads are a waste of time. You just like going round and round. I thought I would try again, but as Lionel says, 'its pointless'. Here is my answer, the UK shouldn’t have agreed to the deal , the onus is on the UK government to best serve it’s citizens the onus is on the EU to best serve their member states citizens . Brexit has caused a preventable problem, this is a fact . But the EU ignored a letter by one of 'their' states, from one that was in the transition, saying what would happen if they continued with using them as a bargaining chip. The UK did not ignore the majority of its citizens. The majority of UK citizens wanted a NI border? Here is an indisputable fact, Brexit , as predicted , caused this problem . Read what I said! The UK and by that you include it's citizens, did not want, nor see the need for a border between the ROI and NI. That was it's stance all the way through the negotiations and before. The EU insisted on a border, being a protectionist conglomerate. The EU ignored one of 'its own states' which asked not to make it part of the negotiations. This was ignored, probably because it didn't suit the EU agenda. Now, perhaps you understand why many in this country voted leave. One of many reasons. The EU like nothing more than a game of oneupmanship. If they hadn't sent Cameron home with tail between his legs, Brexit would never have happened. But the UK, the people within it, the majority decided to change EU to Fu. Read the OP. This about Brexit slogans that turned out to be false, one of these slogans was said by Boris ( the Brexit chief) that there wouldn’t be a NI border, because of Brexit there is now a NI border . Fact Boris didn't put a border in. He did, he agreed to it. But even if he didn't, to say that we wouldn't have one, and now we do. Was just another brexit lie. Bearing in mind we had already left the EU, was it better to leave after the transition with a 'no deal'? Which without an agreement is what would have happened. You keep missing the point of the thread . Why did Boris keep saying there would be no border? " I think we've established he's a politician Can we get back to discussing the calumny of the EU ta | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? Irrelevant, without Brexit the problem doesn’t exist , so Brexit is the cause , all of this was predicted so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise It's not irrelevant. Brexit had happened. So why not just answer the question? Because you won't, which is why these threads are a waste of time. You just like going round and round. I thought I would try again, but as Lionel says, 'its pointless'. Here is my answer, the UK shouldn’t have agreed to the deal , the onus is on the UK government to best serve it’s citizens the onus is on the EU to best serve their member states citizens . Brexit has caused a preventable problem, this is a fact . But the EU ignored a letter by one of 'their' states, from one that was in the transition, saying what would happen if they continued with using them as a bargaining chip. The UK did not ignore the majority of its citizens. The majority of UK citizens wanted a NI border? Here is an indisputable fact, Brexit , as predicted , caused this problem . Read what I said! The UK and by that you include it's citizens, did not want, nor see the need for a border between the ROI and NI. That was it's stance all the way through the negotiations and before. The EU insisted on a border, being a protectionist conglomerate. The EU ignored one of 'its own states' which asked not to make it part of the negotiations. This was ignored, probably because it didn't suit the EU agenda. Now, perhaps you understand why many in this country voted leave. One of many reasons. The EU like nothing more than a game of oneupmanship. If they hadn't sent Cameron home with tail between his legs, Brexit would never have happened. But the UK, the people within it, the majority decided to change EU to Fu. Read the OP. This about Brexit slogans that turned out to be false, one of these slogans was said by Boris ( the Brexit chief) that there wouldn’t be a NI border, because of Brexit there is now a NI border . Fact Boris didn't put a border in. He did, he agreed to it. But even if he didn't, to say that we wouldn't have one, and now we do. Was just another brexit lie. Bearing in mind we had already left the EU, was it better to leave after the transition with a 'no deal'? Which without an agreement is what would have happened. You keep missing the point of the thread . Why did Boris keep saying there would be no border? I think we've established he's a politician Can we get back to discussing the calumny of the EU ta " Stick to the thread Chris, | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? Irrelevant, without Brexit the problem doesn’t exist , so Brexit is the cause , all of this was predicted so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise It's not irrelevant. Brexit had happened. So why not just answer the question? Because you won't, which is why these threads are a waste of time. You just like going round and round. I thought I would try again, but as Lionel says, 'its pointless'. Here is my answer, the UK shouldn’t have agreed to the deal , the onus is on the UK government to best serve it’s citizens the onus is on the EU to best serve their member states citizens . Brexit has caused a preventable problem, this is a fact . But the EU ignored a letter by one of 'their' states, from one that was in the transition, saying what would happen if they continued with using them as a bargaining chip. The UK did not ignore the majority of its citizens. The majority of UK citizens wanted a NI border? Here is an indisputable fact, Brexit , as predicted , caused this problem . Read what I said! The UK and by that you include it's citizens, did not want, nor see the need for a border between the ROI and NI. That was it's stance all the way through the negotiations and before. The EU insisted on a border, being a protectionist conglomerate. The EU ignored one of 'its own states' which asked not to make it part of the negotiations. This was ignored, probably because it didn't suit the EU agenda. Now, perhaps you understand why many in this country voted leave. One of many reasons. The EU like nothing more than a game of oneupmanship. If they hadn't sent Cameron home with tail between his legs, Brexit would never have happened. But the UK, the people within it, the majority decided to change EU to Fu. Read the OP. This about Brexit slogans that turned out to be false, one of these slogans was said by Boris ( the Brexit chief) that there wouldn’t be a NI border, because of Brexit there is now a NI border . Fact Boris didn't put a border in. He did, he agreed to it. But even if he didn't, to say that we wouldn't have one, and now we do. Was just another brexit lie. Bearing in mind we had already left the EU, was it better to leave after the transition with a 'no deal'? Which without an agreement is what would have happened." Right. So Boris lied. | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? Irrelevant, without Brexit the problem doesn’t exist , so Brexit is the cause , all of this was predicted so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise It's not irrelevant. Brexit had happened. So why not just answer the question? Because you won't, which is why these threads are a waste of time. You just like going round and round. I thought I would try again, but as Lionel says, 'its pointless'. Here is my answer, the UK shouldn’t have agreed to the deal , the onus is on the UK government to best serve it’s citizens the onus is on the EU to best serve their member states citizens . Brexit has caused a preventable problem, this is a fact . But the EU ignored a letter by one of 'their' states, from one that was in the transition, saying what would happen if they continued with using them as a bargaining chip. The UK did not ignore the majority of its citizens. The majority of UK citizens wanted a NI border? Here is an indisputable fact, Brexit , as predicted , caused this problem . Read what I said! The UK and by that you include it's citizens, did not want, nor see the need for a border between the ROI and NI. That was it's stance all the way through the negotiations and before. The EU insisted on a border, being a protectionist conglomerate. The EU ignored one of 'its own states' which asked not to make it part of the negotiations. This was ignored, probably because it didn't suit the EU agenda. Now, perhaps you understand why many in this country voted leave. One of many reasons. The EU like nothing more than a game of oneupmanship. If they hadn't sent Cameron home with tail between his legs, Brexit would never have happened. But the UK, the people within it, the majority decided to change EU to Fu. Read the OP. This about Brexit slogans that turned out to be false, one of these slogans was said by Boris ( the Brexit chief) that there wouldn’t be a NI border, because of Brexit there is now a NI border . Fact Boris didn't put a border in. He did, he agreed to it. But even if he didn't, to say that we wouldn't have one, and now we do. Was just another brexit lie. Bearing in mind we had already left the EU, was it better to leave after the transition with a 'no deal'? Which without an agreement is what would have happened. You keep missing the point of the thread . Why did Boris keep saying there would be no border? " Why? Because he didn't want one, said there was no need. But the EU in their wisdom made it part of the negotiations, despite being asked not to by one of 'their states' and one that was in the transition stage. The EU ignored them, because it didn't suit their agenda. Now, everyone, has been told a deal was better than a no deal. I myself am not so sure. But we kept being told a deal was better, so a deal was negotiated. The EU didn't back down on wanting a border, so it became part of an agreement. Negotiation. Not what Boris wanted. Give and take. Negotiate. You said Boris lied. I disagree, not because I vote Tory, but because it was negotiated in to the agreement by the EU. | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? Irrelevant, without Brexit the problem doesn’t exist , so Brexit is the cause , all of this was predicted so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise It's not irrelevant. Brexit had happened. So why not just answer the question? Because you won't, which is why these threads are a waste of time. You just like going round and round. I thought I would try again, but as Lionel says, 'its pointless'. Here is my answer, the UK shouldn’t have agreed to the deal , the onus is on the UK government to best serve it’s citizens the onus is on the EU to best serve their member states citizens . Brexit has caused a preventable problem, this is a fact . But the EU ignored a letter by one of 'their' states, from one that was in the transition, saying what would happen if they continued with using them as a bargaining chip. The UK did not ignore the majority of its citizens. The majority of UK citizens wanted a NI border? Here is an indisputable fact, Brexit , as predicted , caused this problem . Read what I said! The UK and by that you include it's citizens, did not want, nor see the need for a border between the ROI and NI. That was it's stance all the way through the negotiations and before. The EU insisted on a border, being a protectionist conglomerate. The EU ignored one of 'its own states' which asked not to make it part of the negotiations. This was ignored, probably because it didn't suit the EU agenda. Now, perhaps you understand why many in this country voted leave. One of many reasons. The EU like nothing more than a game of oneupmanship. If they hadn't sent Cameron home with tail between his legs, Brexit would never have happened. But the UK, the people within it, the majority decided to change EU to Fu. Read the OP. This about Brexit slogans that turned out to be false, one of these slogans was said by Boris ( the Brexit chief) that there wouldn’t be a NI border, because of Brexit there is now a NI border . Fact Boris didn't put a border in. He did, he agreed to it. But even if he didn't, to say that we wouldn't have one, and now we do. Was just another brexit lie. Bearing in mind we had already left the EU, was it better to leave after the transition with a 'no deal'? Which without an agreement is what would have happened. You keep missing the point of the thread . Why did Boris keep saying there would be no border? Why? Because he didn't want one, said there was no need. But the EU in their wisdom made it part of the negotiations, despite being asked not to by one of 'their states' and one that was in the transition stage. The EU ignored them, because it didn't suit their agenda. Now, everyone, has been told a deal was better than a no deal. I myself am not so sure. But we kept being told a deal was better, so a deal was negotiated. The EU didn't back down on wanting a border, so it became part of an agreement. Negotiation. Not what Boris wanted. Give and take. Negotiate. You said Boris lied. I disagree, not because I vote Tory, but because it was negotiated in to the agreement by the EU." The border is there because of the GFA. You can blame the EU until you're blue in the face. This does not change the fact the Boris lied about there being no border issues. | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? Irrelevant, without Brexit the problem doesn’t exist , so Brexit is the cause , all of this was predicted so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise It's not irrelevant. Brexit had happened. So why not just answer the question? Because you won't, which is why these threads are a waste of time. You just like going round and round. I thought I would try again, but as Lionel says, 'its pointless'. Here is my answer, the UK shouldn’t have agreed to the deal , the onus is on the UK government to best serve it’s citizens the onus is on the EU to best serve their member states citizens . Brexit has caused a preventable problem, this is a fact . But the EU ignored a letter by one of 'their' states, from one that was in the transition, saying what would happen if they continued with using them as a bargaining chip. The UK did not ignore the majority of its citizens. The majority of UK citizens wanted a NI border? Here is an indisputable fact, Brexit , as predicted , caused this problem . Read what I said! The UK and by that you include it's citizens, did not want, nor see the need for a border between the ROI and NI. That was it's stance all the way through the negotiations and before. The EU insisted on a border, being a protectionist conglomerate. The EU ignored one of 'its own states' which asked not to make it part of the negotiations. This was ignored, probably because it didn't suit the EU agenda. Now, perhaps you understand why many in this country voted leave. One of many reasons. The EU like nothing more than a game of oneupmanship. If they hadn't sent Cameron home with tail between his legs, Brexit would never have happened. But the UK, the people within it, the majority decided to change EU to Fu. Read the OP. This about Brexit slogans that turned out to be false, one of these slogans was said by Boris ( the Brexit chief) that there wouldn’t be a NI border, because of Brexit there is now a NI border . Fact Boris didn't put a border in. He did, he agreed to it. But even if he didn't, to say that we wouldn't have one, and now we do. Was just another brexit lie. Bearing in mind we had already left the EU, was it better to leave after the transition with a 'no deal'? Which without an agreement is what would have happened. You keep missing the point of the thread . Why did Boris keep saying there would be no border? Why? Because he didn't want one, said there was no need. But the EU in their wisdom made it part of the negotiations, despite being asked not to by one of 'their states' and one that was in the transition stage. The EU ignored them, because it didn't suit their agenda. Now, everyone, has been told a deal was better than a no deal. I myself am not so sure. But we kept being told a deal was better, so a deal was negotiated. The EU didn't back down on wanting a border, so it became part of an agreement. Negotiation. Not what Boris wanted. Give and take. Negotiate. You said Boris lied. I disagree, not because I vote Tory, but because it was negotiated in to the agreement by the EU." He said there would be no border, he signed a deal that put in a border, we now have a border , he lied . | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal?" If there is no need for a border, why do we care about immigration? Exiting the EU mandated a border, but Boris the Twat ignored the law and as usual lied. Blaming the EU for adhering to, International Treaties & Laws is another example of Brexit idiocy. Brexit was never going to be easy, Project Fear wasn’t Project Fear, it was a reality check that Brexiteers ignored. Most of the problem remainers have with Brexiteers is the constant bullshit & lies. I can’t believe that you were actually stupid enough to believe the Leave Lies, maybe I’m wrong. Maybe you did actually just want Britain to be a bit more shit? It’s hard to say, but the way people carp on about how bad the EU is when we have left, does suggest a certain need to justify that no matter how bad we become, the EU must be worse. It is clearly surreal, did people who voted Leave get given a drug when they voted? Common sense seems to have been wiped out | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? Irrelevant, without Brexit the problem doesn’t exist , so Brexit is the cause , all of this was predicted so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise It's not irrelevant. Brexit had happened. So why not just answer the question? Because you won't, which is why these threads are a waste of time. You just like going round and round. I thought I would try again, but as Lionel says, 'its pointless'. Here is my answer, the UK shouldn’t have agreed to the deal , the onus is on the UK government to best serve it’s citizens the onus is on the EU to best serve their member states citizens . Brexit has caused a preventable problem, this is a fact . But the EU ignored a letter by one of 'their' states, from one that was in the transition, saying what would happen if they continued with using them as a bargaining chip. The UK did not ignore the majority of its citizens. The majority of UK citizens wanted a NI border? Here is an indisputable fact, Brexit , as predicted , caused this problem . Read what I said! The UK and by that you include it's citizens, did not want, nor see the need for a border between the ROI and NI. That was it's stance all the way through the negotiations and before. The EU insisted on a border, being a protectionist conglomerate. The EU ignored one of 'its own states' which asked not to make it part of the negotiations. This was ignored, probably because it didn't suit the EU agenda. Now, perhaps you understand why many in this country voted leave. One of many reasons. The EU like nothing more than a game of oneupmanship. If they hadn't sent Cameron home with tail between his legs, Brexit would never have happened. But the UK, the people within it, the majority decided to change EU to Fu. Read the OP. This about Brexit slogans that turned out to be false, one of these slogans was said by Boris ( the Brexit chief) that there wouldn’t be a NI border, because of Brexit there is now a NI border . Fact didn’t Osborn do one about half a million jobs going day after a leave vote ? Probably, and he was wrong, but you should never believe a Tory chancellor i never believe any politician 100% take what most with a pinch of salt like I did with all the slogans as I suspect you did amd most people tbh
I wish that was the case, unfortunately there are some people who believed the lies on both sides , that is why a referendum wasn’t the best way to decide, I think it was the case I think the some was a tiny minority most people either liked the eu or didn’t long before the vote it’s just a way of clinging to an unfair referendum mate
What has the referendum solved, do you think that it has created or healed division? Maybe there should have been a legally biding referendum without a leave or remain campaign sides . Just give people verified and indisputable facts and let them use these to make their decision. Lies were told on both sides, "the division is from the remain side there the ones struggling with brexit | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? Irrelevant, without Brexit the problem doesn’t exist , so Brexit is the cause , all of this was predicted so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise It's not irrelevant. Brexit had happened. So why not just answer the question? Because you won't, which is why these threads are a waste of time. You just like going round and round. I thought I would try again, but as Lionel says, 'its pointless'. Here is my answer, the UK shouldn’t have agreed to the deal , the onus is on the UK government to best serve it’s citizens the onus is on the EU to best serve their member states citizens . Brexit has caused a preventable problem, this is a fact . But the EU ignored a letter by one of 'their' states, from one that was in the transition, saying what would happen if they continued with using them as a bargaining chip. The UK did not ignore the majority of its citizens. The majority of UK citizens wanted a NI border? Here is an indisputable fact, Brexit , as predicted , caused this problem . Read what I said! The UK and by that you include it's citizens, did not want, nor see the need for a border between the ROI and NI. That was it's stance all the way through the negotiations and before. The EU insisted on a border, being a protectionist conglomerate. The EU ignored one of 'its own states' which asked not to make it part of the negotiations. This was ignored, probably because it didn't suit the EU agenda. Now, perhaps you understand why many in this country voted leave. One of many reasons. The EU like nothing more than a game of oneupmanship. If they hadn't sent Cameron home with tail between his legs, Brexit would never have happened. But the UK, the people within it, the majority decided to change EU to Fu. Read the OP. This about Brexit slogans that turned out to be false, one of these slogans was said by Boris ( the Brexit chief) that there wouldn’t be a NI border, because of Brexit there is now a NI border . Fact didn’t Osborn do one about half a million jobs going day after a leave vote ? Probably, and he was wrong, but you should never believe a Tory chancellor i never believe any politician 100% take what most with a pinch of salt like I did with all the slogans as I suspect you did amd most people tbh
I wish that was the case, unfortunately there are some people who believed the lies on both sides , that is why a referendum wasn’t the best way to decide, I think it was the case I think the some was a tiny minority most people either liked the eu or didn’t long before the vote it’s just a way of clinging to an unfair referendum mate
What has the referendum solved, do you think that it has created or healed division? Maybe there should have been a legally biding referendum without a leave or remain campaign sides . Just give people verified and indisputable facts and let them use these to make their decision. Lies were told on both sides, the division is from the remain side there the ones struggling with brexit "Just a reminder. The remainers voted against brexit. Leavers voted for this shit sandwich. And many are still claiming it was a good idea, and they would vote for the same shit sandwich again. Brexit is effecting all of us. Not just leavers or not just remainers. | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? Irrelevant, without Brexit the problem doesn’t exist , so Brexit is the cause , all of this was predicted so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise It's not irrelevant. Brexit had happened. So why not just answer the question? Because you won't, which is why these threads are a waste of time. You just like going round and round. I thought I would try again, but as Lionel says, 'its pointless'. Here is my answer, the UK shouldn’t have agreed to the deal , the onus is on the UK government to best serve it’s citizens the onus is on the EU to best serve their member states citizens . Brexit has caused a preventable problem, this is a fact . But the EU ignored a letter by one of 'their' states, from one that was in the transition, saying what would happen if they continued with using them as a bargaining chip. The UK did not ignore the majority of its citizens. The majority of UK citizens wanted a NI border? Here is an indisputable fact, Brexit , as predicted , caused this problem . Read what I said! The UK and by that you include it's citizens, did not want, nor see the need for a border between the ROI and NI. That was it's stance all the way through the negotiations and before. The EU insisted on a border, being a protectionist conglomerate. The EU ignored one of 'its own states' which asked not to make it part of the negotiations. This was ignored, probably because it didn't suit the EU agenda. Now, perhaps you understand why many in this country voted leave. One of many reasons. The EU like nothing more than a game of oneupmanship. If they hadn't sent Cameron home with tail between his legs, Brexit would never have happened. But the UK, the people within it, the majority decided to change EU to Fu. Read the OP. This about Brexit slogans that turned out to be false, one of these slogans was said by Boris ( the Brexit chief) that there wouldn’t be a NI border, because of Brexit there is now a NI border . Fact didn’t Osborn do one about half a million jobs going day after a leave vote ? Probably, and he was wrong, but you should never believe a Tory chancellor i never believe any politician 100% take what most with a pinch of salt like I did with all the slogans as I suspect you did amd most people tbh
I wish that was the case, unfortunately there are some people who believed the lies on both sides , that is why a referendum wasn’t the best way to decide, I think it was the case I think the some was a tiny minority most people either liked the eu or didn’t long before the vote it’s just a way of clinging to an unfair referendum mate
What has the referendum solved, do you think that it has created or healed division? Maybe there should have been a legally biding referendum without a leave or remain campaign sides . Just give people verified and indisputable facts and let them use these to make their decision. Lies were told on both sides, the division is from the remain side there the ones struggling with brexit "Unlucky, just like the division was with the leave campaign for 30 years led by and the ERG when they couldn’t accept are support the UK when we were in the EU, Nothing has changed or been resolved | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? If there is no need for a border, why do we care about immigration? Exiting the EU mandated a border, but Boris the Twat ignored the law and as usual lied. Blaming the EU for adhering to, International Treaties & Laws is another example of Brexit idiocy. Brexit was never going to be easy, Project Fear wasn’t Project Fear, it was a reality check that Brexiteers ignored. Most of the problem remainers have with Brexiteers is the constant bullshit & lies. I can’t believe that you were actually stupid enough to believe the Leave Lies, maybe I’m wrong. Maybe you did actually just want Britain to be a bit more shit? It’s hard to say, but the way people carp on about how bad the EU is when we have left, does suggest a certain need to justify that no matter how bad we become, the EU must be worse. It is clearly surreal, did people who voted Leave get given a drug when they voted? Common sense seems to have been wiped out "I'm not sure if you are talking to me personally when you ask if I believed the lies? Or did I vote to make Britain shit? No I did neither. As I said in previous threads, I listened to both sides, took my experience of dealing with Europe, in particular the French and Spanish and voted in the way I did. I still import from the EU and again as I said on previous threads, nothing has changed. Not that you will, and I'm talking generally not personally will believe that, because it doesn't fit. Project fear was just that, lies, some of it was true as some of the leave project was also untrue. Most people took an informed decision on the way the EU affects them. I certainly did, listened to both sides, one told me I was a racist for thinking about leaving, but funnily enough immigration was not something I voted to leave for. What these threads do say is how ingrained both sides are in standing their ground. As I said I voted the way I did due to the experience I had with the EU. I would vote exactly the same way again for the reasons I have given. Personally I couldn't believe the country had voted the way it did when I turned the news on. But it did. Leave won, remain lost. We should have left as quickly as possible, rather than the politicians arguing amongst themselves and prolonging the agony. But of course they know best. They will always do what fits in with their agenda, whichever side they are on, whether Brexit or something else. Believe a politician? Then you deserve everything you get. Luckily we are surrounded by salt! Playtime over. | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? If there is no need for a border, why do we care about immigration? Exiting the EU mandated a border, but Boris the Twat ignored the law and as usual lied. Blaming the EU for adhering to, International Treaties & Laws is another example of Brexit idiocy. Brexit was never going to be easy, Project Fear wasn’t Project Fear, it was a reality check that Brexiteers ignored. Most of the problem remainers have with Brexiteers is the constant bullshit & lies. I can’t believe that you were actually stupid enough to believe the Leave Lies, maybe I’m wrong. Maybe you did actually just want Britain to be a bit more shit? It’s hard to say, but the way people carp on about how bad the EU is when we have left, does suggest a certain need to justify that no matter how bad we become, the EU must be worse. It is clearly surreal, did people who voted Leave get given a drug when they voted? Common sense seems to have been wiped out
I'm not sure if you are talking to me personally when you ask if I believed the lies? Or did I vote to make Britain shit?
No I did neither.
As I said in previous threads, I listened to both sides, took my experience of dealing with Europe, in particular the French and Spanish and voted in the way I did. I still import from the EU and again as I said on previous threads, nothing has changed. Not that you will, and I'm talking generally not personally will believe that, because it doesn't fit.
Project fear was just that, lies, some of it was true as some of the leave project was also untrue. Most people took an informed decision on the way the EU affects them. I certainly did, listened to both sides, one told me I was a racist for thinking about leaving, but funnily enough immigration was not something I voted to leave for.
What these threads do say is how ingrained both sides are in standing their ground. As I said I voted the way I did due to the experience I had with the EU. I would vote exactly the same way again for the reasons I have given. Personally I couldn't believe the country had voted the way it did when I turned the news on. But it did. Leave won, remain lost. We should have left as quickly as possible, rather than the politicians arguing amongst themselves and prolonging the agony. But of course they know best. They will always do what fits in with their agenda, whichever side they are on, whether Brexit or something else. Believe a politician? Then you deserve everything you get. Luckily we are surrounded by salt!
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? If there is no need for a border, why do we care about immigration? Exiting the EU mandated a border, but Boris the Twat ignored the law and as usual lied. Blaming the EU for adhering to, International Treaties & Laws is another example of Brexit idiocy. Brexit was never going to be easy, Project Fear wasn’t Project Fear, it was a reality check that Brexiteers ignored. Most of the problem remainers have with Brexiteers is the constant bullshit & lies. I can’t believe that you were actually stupid enough to believe the Leave Lies, maybe I’m wrong. Maybe you did actually just want Britain to be a bit more shit? It’s hard to say, but the way people carp on about how bad the EU is when we have left, does suggest a certain need to justify that no matter how bad we become, the EU must be worse. It is clearly surreal, did people who voted Leave get given a drug when they voted? Common sense seems to have been wiped out
I'm not sure if you are talking to me personally when you ask if I believed the lies? Or did I vote to make Britain shit?
No I did neither.
As I said in previous threads, I listened to both sides, took my experience of dealing with Europe, in particular the French and Spanish and voted in the way I did. I still import from the EU and again as I said on previous threads, nothing has changed. Not that you will, and I'm talking generally not personally will believe that, because it doesn't fit.
Project fear was just that, lies, some of it was true as some of the leave project was also untrue. Most people took an informed decision on the way the EU affects them. I certainly did, listened to both sides, one told me I was a racist for thinking about leaving, but funnily enough immigration was not something I voted to leave for.
What these threads do say is how ingrained both sides are in standing their ground. As I said I voted the way I did due to the experience I had with the EU. I would vote exactly the same way again for the reasons I have given. Personally I couldn't believe the country had voted the way it did when I turned the news on. But it did. Leave won, remain lost. We should have left as quickly as possible, rather than the politicians arguing amongst themselves and prolonging the agony. But of course they know best. They will always do what fits in with their agenda, whichever side they are on, whether Brexit or something else. Believe a politician? Then you deserve everything you get. Luckily we are surrounded by salt!
Playtime over.
I agreed with you up until the last sentence, unfortunately we have been and still are surrounded by red hot raging gammon . "There's a certain irony in someone who complains about the use of the word 'woke' using the word 'gammon' don't you think? | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? If there is no need for a border, why do we care about immigration? Exiting the EU mandated a border, but Boris the Twat ignored the law and as usual lied. Blaming the EU for adhering to, International Treaties & Laws is another example of Brexit idiocy. Brexit was never going to be easy, Project Fear wasn’t Project Fear, it was a reality check that Brexiteers ignored. Most of the problem remainers have with Brexiteers is the constant bullshit & lies. I can’t believe that you were actually stupid enough to believe the Leave Lies, maybe I’m wrong. Maybe you did actually just want Britain to be a bit more shit? It’s hard to say, but the way people carp on about how bad the EU is when we have left, does suggest a certain need to justify that no matter how bad we become, the EU must be worse. It is clearly surreal, did people who voted Leave get given a drug when they voted? Common sense seems to have been wiped out
I'm not sure if you are talking to me personally when you ask if I believed the lies? Or did I vote to make Britain shit?
No I did neither.
As I said in previous threads, I listened to both sides, took my experience of dealing with Europe, in particular the French and Spanish and voted in the way I did. I still import from the EU and again as I said on previous threads, nothing has changed. Not that you will, and I'm talking generally not personally will believe that, because it doesn't fit.
Project fear was just that, lies, some of it was true as some of the leave project was also untrue. Most people took an informed decision on the way the EU affects them. I certainly did, listened to both sides, one told me I was a racist for thinking about leaving, but funnily enough immigration was not something I voted to leave for.
What these threads do say is how ingrained both sides are in standing their ground. As I said I voted the way I did due to the experience I had with the EU. I would vote exactly the same way again for the reasons I have given. Personally I couldn't believe the country had voted the way it did when I turned the news on. But it did. Leave won, remain lost. We should have left as quickly as possible, rather than the politicians arguing amongst themselves and prolonging the agony. But of course they know best. They will always do what fits in with their agenda, whichever side they are on, whether Brexit or something else. Believe a politician? Then you deserve everything you get. Luckily we are surrounded by salt!
Playtime over.
I agreed with you up until the last sentence, unfortunately we have been and still are surrounded by red hot raging gammon .
There's a certain irony in someone who complains about the use of the word 'woke' using the word 'gammon' don't you think?"No, can you explain the irony ? | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? If there is no need for a border, why do we care about immigration? Exiting the EU mandated a border, but Boris the Twat ignored the law and as usual lied. Blaming the EU for adhering to, International Treaties & Laws is another example of Brexit idiocy. Brexit was never going to be easy, Project Fear wasn’t Project Fear, it was a reality check that Brexiteers ignored. Most of the problem remainers have with Brexiteers is the constant bullshit & lies. I can’t believe that you were actually stupid enough to believe the Leave Lies, maybe I’m wrong. Maybe you did actually just want Britain to be a bit more shit? It’s hard to say, but the way people carp on about how bad the EU is when we have left, does suggest a certain need to justify that no matter how bad we become, the EU must be worse. It is clearly surreal, did people who voted Leave get given a drug when they voted? Common sense seems to have been wiped out
I'm not sure if you are talking to me personally when you ask if I believed the lies? Or did I vote to make Britain shit?
No I did neither.
As I said in previous threads, I listened to both sides, took my experience of dealing with Europe, in particular the French and Spanish and voted in the way I did. I still import from the EU and again as I said on previous threads, nothing has changed. Not that you will, and I'm talking generally not personally will believe that, because it doesn't fit.
Project fear was just that, lies, some of it was true as some of the leave project was also untrue. Most people took an informed decision on the way the EU affects them. I certainly did, listened to both sides, one told me I was a racist for thinking about leaving, but funnily enough immigration was not something I voted to leave for.
What these threads do say is how ingrained both sides are in standing their ground. As I said I voted the way I did due to the experience I had with the EU. I would vote exactly the same way again for the reasons I have given. Personally I couldn't believe the country had voted the way it did when I turned the news on. But it did. Leave won, remain lost. We should have left as quickly as possible, rather than the politicians arguing amongst themselves and prolonging the agony. But of course they know best. They will always do what fits in with their agenda, whichever side they are on, whether Brexit or something else. Believe a politician? Then you deserve everything you get. Luckily we are surrounded by salt!
Playtime over.
I agreed with you up until the last sentence, unfortunately we have been and still are surrounded by red hot raging gammon .
There's a certain irony in someone who complains about the use of the word 'woke' using the word 'gammon' don't you think?
No, can you explain the irony ? "Well the term 'gammon' has been deemed as racist by both left and right sided politicians. | |||
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"Back in November, both ROI and NI wrote to the EU asking not to be used as part of the negotiations. As it was pointed out to them there would be problems in the food chain etc. So who was in the wrong? The EU for making NI a bargaining chip or the UK for agreeing to it? Brexit is the problem . Brexit had already happened. Brexit caused the problem, no Brexit no NI border problem As I said Brexit had already happened. Who was in the wrong? The EU for making it part of the negotiations when the UK had already said there was no need for a border and they wouldn't instigate one. Or The UK for agreeing with the deal? Irrelevant, without Brexit the problem doesn’t exist , so Brexit is the cause , all of this was predicted so it shouldn’t have come as a surprise It's not irrelevant. Brexit had happened. So why not just answer the question? Because you won't, which is why these threads are a waste of time. You just like going round and round. I thought I would try again, but as Lionel says, 'its pointless'. Here is my answer, the UK shouldn’t have agreed to the deal , the onus is on the UK government to best serve it’s citizens the onus is on the EU to best serve their member states citizens . Brexit has caused a preventable problem, this is a fact . But the EU ignored a letter by one of 'their' states, from one that was in the transition, saying what would happen if they continued with using them as a bargaining chip. The UK did not ignore the majority of its citizens. The majority of UK citizens wanted a NI border? Here is an indisputable fact, Brexit , as predicted , caused this problem . Read what I said! The UK and by that you include it's citizens, did not want, nor see the need for a border between the ROI and NI. That was it's stance all the way through the negotiations and before. The EU insisted on a border, being a protectionist conglomerate. The EU ignored one of 'its own states' which asked not to make it part of the negotiations. This was ignored, probably because it didn't suit the EU agenda. Now, perhaps you understand why many in this country voted leave. One of many reasons. The EU like nothing more than a game of oneupmanship. If they hadn't sent Cameron home with tail between his legs, Brexit would never have happened. But the UK, the people within it, the majority decided to change EU to Fu. Read the OP. This about Brexit slogans that turned out to be false, one of these slogans was said by Boris ( the Brexit chief) that there wouldn’t be a NI border, because of Brexit there is now a NI border . Fact didn’t Osborn do one about half a million jobs going day after a leave vote ? Probably, and he was wrong, but you should never believe a Tory chancellor i never believe any politician 100% take what most with a pinch of salt like I did with all the slogans as I suspect you did amd most people tbh
I wish that was the case, unfortunately there are some people who believed the lies on both sides , that is why a referendum wasn’t the best way to decide, I think it was the case I think the some was a tiny minority most people either liked the eu or didn’t long before the vote it’s just a way of clinging to an unfair referendum mate "Of course if they had won they would not claim it was unfair. | |||
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I'm not sure if you are talking to me personally when you ask if I believed the lies? Or did I vote to make Britain shit?
No I did neither.
As I said in previous threads, I listened to both sides, took my experience of dealing with Europe, in particular the French and Spanish and voted in the way I did. I still import from the EU and again as I said on previous threads, nothing has changed. Not that you will, and I'm talking generally not personally will believe that, because it doesn't fit.
Project fear was just that, lies, some of it was true as some of the leave project was also untrue. Most people took an informed decision on the way the EU affects them. I certainly did, listened to both sides, one told me I was a racist for thinking about leaving, but funnily enough immigration was not something I voted to leave for.
What these threads do say is how ingrained both sides are in standing their ground. As I said I voted the way I did due to the experience I had with the EU. I would vote exactly the same way again for the reasons I have given. Personally I couldn't believe the country had voted the way it did when I turned the news on. But it did. Leave won, remain lost. We should have left as quickly as possible, rather than the politicians arguing amongst themselves and prolonging the agony. But of course they know best. They will always do what fits in with their agenda, whichever side they are on, whether Brexit or something else. Believe a politician? Then you deserve everything you get. Luckily we are surrounded by salt!
Playtime over.
I agreed with you up until the last sentence, unfortunately we have been and still are surrounded by red hot raging gammon .
There's a certain irony in someone who complains about the use of the word 'woke' using the word 'gammon' don't you think?
No, can you explain the irony ?
Well the term 'gammon' has been deemed as racist by both left and right sided politicians.
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