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"I understood that Brexit was supposed to be about taking back control and the Government having the ability to set tariffs to benefit U.K. business? The idea that the U.K. could be free of EU rules and be able to nimbly react to support British business was fundamental to the idea of Brexit. So here we are one full year into the pandemic and three months into Brexit and the Food & Drink Federation have released the most recent U.K. export figures into Europe - the reason for the massive decline is that the U.K. Govt has unilaterally decided not to impose import restrictions and is thereby wilfully damaging - by not protecting U.K. exporters. If we are not able to even reciprocate on non-tariff restrictions - just how would we deal with tariffs - or worse? Could it be that the U.K. Government has decided not to reciprocate because they would see a voter backlash if supermarket shelves started to empty? Fuck business instead??? Here is the Top Ten of Export slumps from January 2021 - stay tuned until next week when we will see who the movers snd shakers were in February. Salmon - down a whopping 98% Beef - down 91% Pork - down 87% Cheese - down 85% Animal Feed - down 80% Fish - down 79% Breakfast cereals - down 75% Chocolate - down 68% Whisky - down 63% Lamb products is the clear winner - down only 45% and surely a Brexit win because everyone thought lamb would be affected by much more than this. Losing less that half of lamb exports is surely a victory no? " Very damning!! | |||
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"I understood that Brexit was supposed to be about taking back control and the Government having the ability to set tariffs to benefit U.K. business? " I'll stop you there. This was never the case. Anyone who believed this kind of bullshit prior to the referendum should be angry at being lied to. The rest of the things in your post are inconsequential to those people who planned, organised and benefitted from brexit. | |||
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"OP was far too long but I will just quote this bit: "- the reason for the massive decline is that the U.K. Govt has unilaterally decided not to impose import restrictions and is thereby wilfully damaging - by not protecting U.K. exporters" What on earth does that even mean? Import restrictions? Eh? You now ant tariffs? Bizarre. And frankly not many of us care what remainers "understood Brexit to be about", those of us who use the clear, distilled essence of pure thought understood perfectly what it was about and business has never been better "Ask your Professor mates about non-tariff barriers. They will help you understand. If Brexit was all about fucking over our food & drinks industry - fair enough - it seems to be working. I just didn't see that written on the side of a bus. | |||
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"OP was far too long but I will just quote this bit: "- the reason for the massive decline is that the U.K. Govt has unilaterally decided not to impose import restrictions and is thereby wilfully damaging - by not protecting U.K. exporters" What on earth does that even mean? Import restrictions? Eh? You now ant tariffs? Bizarre. And frankly not many of us care what remainers "understood Brexit to be about", those of us who use the clear, distilled essence of pure thought understood perfectly what it was about and business has never been better
Ask your Professor mates about non-tariff barriers. They will help you understand.
If Brexit was all about fucking over our food & drinks industry - fair enough - it seems to be working. I just didn't see that written on the side of a bus."Why would we want non tariff barriers? Uh? What's that got to do with helping exporters? If you can't explain it you don't understand it. Maybe a bit less mis copying of editorials and a bit more thought required. | |||
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"I understood that Brexit was supposed to be about taking back control and the Government having the ability to set tariffs to benefit U.K. business? The idea that the U.K. could be free of EU rules and be able to nimbly react to support British business was fundamental to the idea of Brexit. So here we are one full year into the pandemic and three months into Brexit and the Food & Drink Federation have released the most recent U.K. export figures into Europe - the reason for the massive decline is that the U.K. Govt has unilaterally decided not to impose import restrictions and is thereby wilfully damaging - by not protecting U.K. exporters. If we are not able to even reciprocate on non-tariff restrictions - just how would we deal with tariffs - or worse? Could it be that the U.K. Government has decided not to reciprocate because they would see a voter backlash if supermarket shelves started to empty? Fuck business instead??? Here is the Top Ten of Export slumps from January 2021 - stay tuned until next week when we will see who the movers snd shakers were in February. Salmon - down a whopping 98% Beef - down 91% Pork - down 87% Cheese - down 85% Animal Feed - down 80% Fish - down 79% Breakfast cereals - down 75% Chocolate - down 68% Whisky - down 63% Lamb products is the clear winner - down only 45% and surely a Brexit win because everyone thought lamb would be affected by much more than this. Losing less that half of lamb exports is surely a victory no? " A lot of this caused by covid so your facts are false and also drops where expected in the short term Due to the third wave of covid in Europe this will be bad for a while yet as a lot of this food goes to the restuarant trade in France etc | |||
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"I understood that Brexit was supposed to be about taking back control and the Government having the ability to set tariffs to benefit U.K. business? The idea that the U.K. could be free of EU rules and be able to nimbly react to support British business was fundamental to the idea of Brexit. So here we are one full year into the pandemic and three months into Brexit and the Food & Drink Federation have released the most recent U.K. export figures into Europe - the reason for the massive decline is that the U.K. Govt has unilaterally decided not to impose import restrictions and is thereby wilfully damaging - by not protecting U.K. exporters. If we are not able to even reciprocate on non-tariff restrictions - just how would we deal with tariffs - or worse? Could it be that the U.K. Government has decided not to reciprocate because they would see a voter backlash if supermarket shelves started to empty? Fuck business instead??? Here is the Top Ten of Export slumps from January 2021 - stay tuned until next week when we will see who the movers snd shakers were in February. Salmon - down a whopping 98% Beef - down 91% Pork - down 87% Cheese - down 85% Animal Feed - down 80% Fish - down 79% Breakfast cereals - down 75% Chocolate - down 68% Whisky - down 63% Lamb products is the clear winner - down only 45% and surely a Brexit win because everyone thought lamb would be affected by much more than this. Losing less that half of lamb exports is surely a victory no? A lot of this caused by covid so your facts are false and also drops where expected in the short term Due to the third wave of covid in Europe this will be bad for a while yet as a lot of this food goes to the restuarant trade in France etc" So your blaming covid, then saying it was an expected effect of brexit anyway, then blaming the restaurant trade in France. That's cleared that up then. | |||
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"I understood that Brexit was supposed to be about taking back control and the Government having the ability to set tariffs to benefit U.K. business? The idea that the U.K. could be free of EU rules and be able to nimbly react to support British business was fundamental to the idea of Brexit. So here we are one full year into the pandemic and three months into Brexit and the Food & Drink Federation have released the most recent U.K. export figures into Europe - the reason for the massive decline is that the U.K. Govt has unilaterally decided not to impose import restrictions and is thereby wilfully damaging - by not protecting U.K. exporters. If we are not able to even reciprocate on non-tariff restrictions - just how would we deal with tariffs - or worse? Could it be that the U.K. Government has decided not to reciprocate because they would see a voter backlash if supermarket shelves started to empty? Fuck business instead??? Here is the Top Ten of Export slumps from January 2021 - stay tuned until next week when we will see who the movers snd shakers were in February. Salmon - down a whopping 98% Beef - down 91% Pork - down 87% Cheese - down 85% Animal Feed - down 80% Fish - down 79% Breakfast cereals - down 75% Chocolate - down 68% Whisky - down 63% Lamb products is the clear winner - down only 45% and surely a Brexit win because everyone thought lamb would be affected by much more than this. Losing less that half of lamb exports is surely a victory no? A lot of this caused by covid so your facts are false and also drops where expected in the short term Due to the third wave of covid in Europe this will be bad for a while yet as a lot of this food goes to the restuarant trade in France etc So your blaming covid, then saying it was an expected effect of brexit anyway, then blaming the restaurant trade in France. That's cleared that up then." Might as well cover every base imaginable  | |||
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"OP was far too long but I will just quote this bit: "- the reason for the massive decline is that the U.K. Govt has unilaterally decided not to impose import restrictions and is thereby wilfully damaging - by not protecting U.K. exporters" What on earth does that even mean? Import restrictions? Eh? You now ant tariffs? Bizarre. And frankly not many of us care what remainers "understood Brexit to be about", those of us who use the clear, distilled essence of pure thought understood perfectly what it was about and business has never been better
Ask your Professor mates about non-tariff barriers. They will help you understand.
If Brexit was all about fucking over our food & drinks industry - fair enough - it seems to be working. I just didn't see that written on the side of a bus.
Why would we want non tariff barriers? Uh?
What's that got to do with helping exporters?
If you can't explain it you don't understand it. Maybe a bit less mis copying of editorials and a bit more thought required. "I think it might be you who doesn’t understand it. There are SIGNIFICANT non-tariff barriers for both importing into the U.K. and exporting from the U.K. The EU have implemented the agreed regulatory process and hence the complete collapse of exports from the U.K. The U.K. Government has decided not to adhere to the regulatory process for imports to the U.K. as the collapse of imported foodstuff from the EU of a similar level to our exports would result in food shortages. Ergo - the Government are sacrificing business by not adhering to the regulatory process for imports whilst our exports are getting blocked by Brexit red tape and regulatory burden. Fuck business- just keep the voters fed. | |||
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"I understood that Brexit was supposed to be about taking back control and the Government having the ability to set tariffs to benefit U.K. business? The idea that the U.K. could be free of EU rules and be able to nimbly react to support British business was fundamental to the idea of Brexit. So here we are one full year into the pandemic and three months into Brexit and the Food & Drink Federation have released the most recent U.K. export figures into Europe - the reason for the massive decline is that the U.K. Govt has unilaterally decided not to impose import restrictions and is thereby wilfully damaging - by not protecting U.K. exporters. If we are not able to even reciprocate on non-tariff restrictions - just how would we deal with tariffs - or worse? Could it be that the U.K. Government has decided not to reciprocate because they would see a voter backlash if supermarket shelves started to empty? Fuck business instead??? Here is the Top Ten of Export slumps from January 2021 - stay tuned until next week when we will see who the movers snd shakers were in February. Salmon - down a whopping 98% Beef - down 91% Pork - down 87% Cheese - down 85% Animal Feed - down 80% Fish - down 79% Breakfast cereals - down 75% Chocolate - down 68% Whisky - down 63% Lamb products is the clear winner - down only 45% and surely a Brexit win because everyone thought lamb would be affected by much more than this. Losing less that half of lamb exports is surely a victory no? A lot of this caused by covid so your facts are false and also drops where expected in the short term Due to the third wave of covid in Europe this will be bad for a while yet as a lot of this food goes to the restuarant trade in France etc So your blaming covid, then saying it was an expected effect of brexit anyway, then blaming the restaurant trade in France. That's cleared that up then." Could be a cocktail of all of them? | |||
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"I understood that Brexit was supposed to be about taking back control and the Government having the ability to set tariffs to benefit U.K. business? The idea that the U.K. could be free of EU rules and be able to nimbly react to support British business was fundamental to the idea of Brexit. So here we are one full year into the pandemic and three months into Brexit and the Food & Drink Federation have released the most recent U.K. export figures into Europe - the reason for the massive decline is that the U.K. Govt has unilaterally decided not to impose import restrictions and is thereby wilfully damaging - by not protecting U.K. exporters. If we are not able to even reciprocate on non-tariff restrictions - just how would we deal with tariffs - or worse? Could it be that the U.K. Government has decided not to reciprocate because they would see a voter backlash if supermarket shelves started to empty? Fuck business instead??? Here is the Top Ten of Export slumps from January 2021 - stay tuned until next week when we will see who the movers snd shakers were in February. Salmon - down a whopping 98% Beef - down 91% Pork - down 87% Cheese - down 85% Animal Feed - down 80% Fish - down 79% Breakfast cereals - down 75% Chocolate - down 68% Whisky - down 63% Lamb products is the clear winner - down only 45% and surely a Brexit win because everyone thought lamb would be affected by much more than this. Losing less that half of lamb exports is surely a victory no? " Yawn  | |||
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"OP was far too long but I will just quote this bit: "- the reason for the massive decline is that the U.K. Govt has unilaterally decided not to impose import restrictions and is thereby wilfully damaging - by not protecting U.K. exporters" What on earth does that even mean? Import restrictions? Eh? You now ant tariffs? Bizarre. And frankly not many of us care what remainers "understood Brexit to be about", those of us who use the clear, distilled essence of pure thought understood perfectly what it was about and business has never been better
Ask your Professor mates about non-tariff barriers. They will help you understand.
If Brexit was all about fucking over our food & drinks industry - fair enough - it seems to be working. I just didn't see that written on the side of a bus.
Why would we want non tariff barriers? Uh?
What's that got to do with helping exporters?
If you can't explain it you don't understand it. Maybe a bit less mis copying of editorials and a bit more thought required.
I think it might be you who doesn’t understand it.
There are SIGNIFICANT non-tariff barriers for both importing into the U.K. and exporting from the U.K.
The EU have implemented the agreed regulatory process and hence the complete collapse of exports from the U.K.
The U.K. Government has decided not to adhere to the regulatory process for imports to the U.K. as the collapse of imported foodstuff from the EU of a similar level to our exports would result in food shortages.
Ergo - the Government are sacrificing business by not adhering to the regulatory process for imports whilst our exports are getting blocked by Brexit red tape and regulatory burden.
Fuck business- just keep the voters fed."So we are reducing red tape on imports. Sounds good to me. If France want to fuck around employing 15,000 extra customs officers that's upto them. It won't last as French consumer complaints increase. | |||
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"The United Kingdom will be absolutely fine. In 50 years or so, it will have all settled down. England will be independant and still complaining about the EU which by then have encompassed Scotland, Wales and a unified Ireland. Little England, will become a tax haven for the wealthy, most of whom will live elsewhere where the climate is kinder and there is a choice of food to eat. Brexit will have been a success although those left will still be asking their elders what the benifits actually were whilst their betters will respond that is was all about ideology. Red buses will be the main form of transport and the meaningless banners and slogans written on their sides will have become a quaint English custom to remind people of what it was like when people had a voice. Newspapers will all have the same goverment inspired headlines and talk about sunny uplands. The English flag will fly across all public buildings and it will be mandatory to have one in your sitting room. Yes, the dystopian future of Little England looks riviting." And yet so many still want to live in UK, strange that init? | |||
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"I understood that Brexit was supposed to be about taking back control and the Government having the ability to set tariffs to benefit U.K. business? The idea that the U.K. could be free of EU rules and be able to nimbly react to support British business was fundamental to the idea of Brexit. So here we are one full year into the pandemic and three months into Brexit and the Food & Drink Federation have released the most recent U.K. export figures into Europe - the reason for the massive decline is that the U.K. Govt has unilaterally decided not to impose import restrictions and is thereby wilfully damaging - by not protecting U.K. exporters. If we are not able to even reciprocate on non-tariff restrictions - just how would we deal with tariffs - or worse? Could it be that the U.K. Government has decided not to reciprocate because they would see a voter backlash if supermarket shelves started to empty? Fuck business instead??? Here is the Top Ten of Export slumps from January 2021 - stay tuned until next week when we will see who the movers snd shakers were in February. Salmon - down a whopping 98% Beef - down 91% Pork - down 87% Cheese - down 85% Animal Feed - down 80% Fish - down 79% Breakfast cereals - down 75% Chocolate - down 68% Whisky - down 63% Lamb products is the clear winner - down only 45% and surely a Brexit win because everyone thought lamb would be affected by much more than this. Losing less that half of lamb exports is surely a victory no? A lot of this caused by covid so your facts are false and also drops where expected in the short term Due to the third wave of covid in Europe this will be bad for a while yet as a lot of this food goes to the restuarant trade in France etc So your blaming covid, then saying it was an expected effect of brexit anyway, then blaming the restaurant trade in France. That's cleared that up then. Could be a cocktail of all of them?" A cocktail of all of them except brexit obviously. It's mainly the fault of all the other things.  | |||
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"The United Kingdom will be absolutely fine. In 50 years or so, it will have all settled down. England will be independant and still complaining about the EU which by then have encompassed Scotland, Wales and a unified Ireland. Little England, will become a tax haven for the wealthy, most of whom will live elsewhere where the climate is kinder and there is a choice of food to eat. Brexit will have been a success although those left will still be asking their elders what the benifits actually were whilst their betters will respond that is was all about ideology. Red buses will be the main form of transport and the meaningless banners and slogans written on their sides will have become a quaint English custom to remind people of what it was like when people had a voice. Newspapers will all have the same goverment inspired headlines and talk about sunny uplands. The English flag will fly across all public buildings and it will be mandatory to have one in your sitting room. Yes, the dystopian future of Little England looks riviting." Think you are being a bit optimistic over the 50 year bit, the EU is not exactly renowned for being a fast mover, and it will take Scotland, Wales and Ireland some time to get there respective houses in order to meet the EU rules of entry. Maybe a 100 yrs would be a better bet. | |||
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"I understood that Brexit was supposed to be about taking back control and the Government having the ability to set tariffs to benefit U.K. business? The idea that the U.K. could be free of EU rules and be able to nimbly react to support British business was fundamental to the idea of Brexit. So here we are one full year into the pandemic and three months into Brexit and the Food & Drink Federation have released the most recent U.K. export figures into Europe - the reason for the massive decline is that the U.K. Govt has unilaterally decided not to impose import restrictions and is thereby wilfully damaging - by not protecting U.K. exporters. If we are not able to even reciprocate on non-tariff restrictions - just how would we deal with tariffs - or worse? Could it be that the U.K. Government has decided not to reciprocate because they would see a voter backlash if supermarket shelves started to empty? Fuck business instead??? Here is the Top Ten of Export slumps from January 2021 - stay tuned until next week when we will see who the movers snd shakers were in February. Salmon - down a whopping 98% Beef - down 91% Pork - down 87% Cheese - down 85% Animal Feed - down 80% Fish - down 79% Breakfast cereals - down 75% Chocolate - down 68% Whisky - down 63% Lamb products is the clear winner - down only 45% and surely a Brexit win because everyone thought lamb would be affected by much more than this. Losing less that half of lamb exports is surely a victory no? A lot of this caused by covid so your facts are false and also drops where expected in the short term Due to the third wave of covid in Europe this will be bad for a while yet as a lot of this food goes to the restuarant trade in France etc So your blaming covid, then saying it was an expected effect of brexit anyway, then blaming the restaurant trade in France. That's cleared that up then. Could be a cocktail of all of them? A cocktail of all of them except brexit obviously. It's mainly the fault of all the other things. "Oops yes of course except Brexit  | |||
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" So we are reducing red tape on imports. Sounds good to me. If France want to fuck around employing 15,000 extra customs officers that's upto them. It won't last as French consumer complaints increase. " Ha ha - and we wonder why we are in the mess that we are in. Do you realise that what you saying is that it is OK for foreign companies not to have the same regulatory burden as our own. Ergo.. we value foreign companies more than we do our own. Ignoring regulations on imports simply puts U.K. companies at a huge disadvantage. How can anyone be good with that? PS - It is not France fucking around. These are the regulations that the U.K. themselves negotiated lol | |||
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" A lot of this caused by covid so your facts are false and also drops where expected in the short term Due to the third wave of covid in Europe this will be bad for a while yet as a lot of this food goes to the restuarant trade in France etc" Let’s try some applied logic... The Covid pandemic has been with us since March 2020. Uk (and EU) GDP plunged in Q2 2020. Why did U.K. exports not fall as much back then? If it is only about Covid - why have U.K. imports stayed more or less the same as they did in Q2 2020? Surely imports and exports would be affected in the same way wouldn’t they? Or maybe it is just Brexit after all? Fuck business eh? | |||
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" So we are reducing red tape on imports. Sounds good to me. If France want to fuck around employing 15,000 extra customs officers that's upto them. It won't last as French consumer complaints increase. Ha ha - and we wonder why we are in the mess that we are in. Do you realise that what you saying is that it is OK for foreign companies not to have the same regulatory burden as our own. Ergo.. we value foreign companies more than we do our own. Ignoring regulations on imports simply puts U.K. companies at a huge disadvantage. How can anyone be good with that? PS - It is not France fucking around. These are the regulations that the U.K. themselves negotiated lol" ------------- You are wasting your time trying to explain what is actually happening. Some people on here are so blinkered that they do not accept logic, mix and match facts to suit, and make up fantasies to augment their point of view. Brexit has been an absolute disaster for the people of the United Kingdom. The wealthy Tory party and their friends are laughing at the people who blindly believe every word they say as they pocket the taxes to pay for their holiday homes abroad and rich lifestyles. Britain has more in common with Russia, North Korea, Mexico and many banana republics than the jaded Empire that Brexiteers long to return to. The Brexiteers hate the EU and all it stands for but the people in mainland Europe feel sorry for the citizens of the United Kingdom. Johnson and his bunch of amateur fools are the laughing stock of global politics and Britain is on a very fast slide to the bottom. Used to be the 4th largest economy in the World and is now 6th and shortly to be overtaken by France to become 7th. But Brexit was never about makimg Britain great - it was about making the rich, richer. | |||
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" So we are reducing red tape on imports. Sounds good to me. If France want to fuck around employing 15,000 extra customs officers that's upto them. It won't last as French consumer complaints increase. Ha ha - and we wonder why we are in the mess that we are in. Do you realise that what you saying is that it is OK for foreign companies not to have the same regulatory burden as our own. Ergo.. we value foreign companies more than we do our own. Ignoring regulations on imports simply puts U.K. companies at a huge disadvantage. How can anyone be good with that? PS - It is not France fucking around. These are the regulations that the U.K. themselves negotiated lol ------------- You are wasting your time trying to explain what is actually happening. Some people on here are so blinkered that they do not accept logic, mix and match facts to suit, and make up fantasies to augment their point of view. Brexit has been an absolute disaster for the people of the United Kingdom. The wealthy Tory party and their friends are laughing at the people who blindly believe every word they say as they pocket the taxes to pay for their holiday homes abroad and rich lifestyles. Britain has more in common with Russia, North Korea, Mexico and many banana republics than the jaded Empire that Brexiteers long to return to. The Brexiteers hate the EU and all it stands for but the people in mainland Europe feel sorry for the citizens of the United Kingdom. Johnson and his bunch of amateur fools are the laughing stock of global politics and Britain is on a very fast slide to the bottom. Used to be the 4th largest economy in the World and is now 6th and shortly to be overtaken by France to become 7th. But Brexit was never about makimg Britain great - it was about making the rich, richer. " Britain is now the fifth largest economy having leapfrogged India, has a larger GDP than France and has an even higher GDP per capita. As if continuously talking the country down wasn't enough, remainers simply make stuff up like perverse losers who had their ice cream taken away. Utterly pathetic. | |||
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" So we are reducing red tape on imports. Sounds good to me. If France want to fuck around employing 15,000 extra customs officers that's upto them. It won't last as French consumer complaints increase. Ha ha - and we wonder why we are in the mess that we are in. Do you realise that what you saying is that it is OK for foreign companies not to have the same regulatory burden as our own. Ergo.. we value foreign companies more than we do our own. Ignoring regulations on imports simply puts U.K. companies at a huge disadvantage. How can anyone be good with that? PS - It is not France fucking around. These are the regulations that the U.K. themselves negotiated lol ------------- You are wasting your time trying to explain what is actually happening. Some people on here are so blinkered that they do not accept logic, mix and match facts to suit, and make up fantasies to augment their point of view. Brexit has been an absolute disaster for the people of the United Kingdom. The wealthy Tory party and their friends are laughing at the people who blindly believe every word they say as they pocket the taxes to pay for their holiday homes abroad and rich lifestyles. Britain has more in common with Russia, North Korea, Mexico and many banana republics than the jaded Empire that Brexiteers long to return to. The Brexiteers hate the EU and all it stands for but the people in mainland Europe feel sorry for the citizens of the United Kingdom. Johnson and his bunch of amateur fools are the laughing stock of global politics and Britain is on a very fast slide to the bottom. Used to be the 4th largest economy in the World and is now 6th and shortly to be overtaken by France to become 7th. But Brexit was never about makimg Britain great - it was about making the rich, richer. Britain is now the fifth largest economy having leapfrogged India, has a larger GDP than France and has an even higher GDP per capita. As if continuously talking the country down wasn't enough, remainers simply make stuff up like perverse losers who had their ice cream taken away. Utterly pathetic. " All whilst we were in the EU. | |||
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" So we are reducing red tape on imports. Sounds good to me. If France want to fuck around employing 15,000 extra customs officers that's upto them. It won't last as French consumer complaints increase. Ha ha - and we wonder why we are in the mess that we are in. Do you realise that what you saying is that it is OK for foreign companies not to have the same regulatory burden as our own. Ergo.. we value foreign companies more than we do our own. Ignoring regulations on imports simply puts U.K. companies at a huge disadvantage. How can anyone be good with that? PS - It is not France fucking around. These are the regulations that the U.K. themselves negotiated lol" In reality we are importing the same goods today as we did on the 31 dec, they havent changed, they are still produced to the same standard they were and which met eu and uk regs, or are you saying the EU have lowered their standards since 1st jan ? | |||
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" So we are reducing red tape on imports. Sounds good to me. If France want to fuck around employing 15,000 extra customs officers that's upto them. It won't last as French consumer complaints increase. Ha ha - and we wonder why we are in the mess that we are in. Do you realise that what you saying is that it is OK for foreign companies not to have the same regulatory burden as our own. Ergo.. we value foreign companies more than we do our own. Ignoring regulations on imports simply puts U.K. companies at a huge disadvantage. How can anyone be good with that? PS - It is not France fucking around. These are the regulations that the U.K. themselves negotiated lol In reality we are importing the same goods today as we did on the 31 dec, they havent changed, they are still produced to the same standard they were and which met eu and uk regs, or are you saying the EU have lowered their standards since 1st jan ? " We wouldn’t know would we? Whereas U.K. exporters are having their feet held to the fire every day. This is just a perfect example of Brexit hyperbole colliding with harsh reality. Freedom to impose our own regulations and tariffs on imports was supposed be a big advantage for British business. The U.K. Govt would support British exporters with independent regulations and tariffs to give Britain a competitive advantage. Day 1 has proven that this cannot be done. Adhering the regulations this Government itself negotiated would starve the country. How is that even remotely reasonable? | |||
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" So we are reducing red tape on imports. Sounds good to me. If France want to fuck around employing 15,000 extra customs officers that's upto them. It won't last as French consumer complaints increase. Ha ha - and we wonder why we are in the mess that we are in. Do you realise that what you saying is that it is OK for foreign companies not to have the same regulatory burden as our own. Ergo.. we value foreign companies more than we do our own. Ignoring regulations on imports simply puts U.K. companies at a huge disadvantage. How can anyone be good with that? PS - It is not France fucking around. These are the regulations that the U.K. themselves negotiated lol In reality we are importing the same goods today as we did on the 31 dec, they havent changed, they are still produced to the same standard they were and which met eu and uk regs, or are you saying the EU have lowered their standards since 1st jan ? We wouldn’t know would we? Whereas U.K. exporters are having their feet held to the fire every day. This is just a perfect example of Brexit hyperbole colliding with harsh reality. Freedom to impose our own regulations and tariffs on imports was supposed be a big advantage for British business. The U.K. Govt would support British exporters with independent regulations and tariffs to give Britain a competitive advantage. Day 1 has proven that this cannot be done. Adhering the regulations this Government itself negotiated would starve the country. How is that even remotely reasonable?" Exporters from every country in the world have to abide by the regulations in the importing country do you not understand that ?, reducing standards/costs etc here might help.uk business in the UK market but not exporters. | |||
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" So we are reducing red tape on imports. Sounds good to me. If France want to fuck around employing 15,000 extra customs officers that's upto them. It won't last as French consumer complaints increase. Ha ha - and we wonder why we are in the mess that we are in. Do you realise that what you saying is that it is OK for foreign companies not to have the same regulatory burden as our own. Ergo.. we value foreign companies more than we do our own. Ignoring regulations on imports simply puts U.K. companies at a huge disadvantage. How can anyone be good with that? PS - It is not France fucking around. These are the regulations that the U.K. themselves negotiated lol In reality we are importing the same goods today as we did on the 31 dec, they havent changed, they are still produced to the same standard they were and which met eu and uk regs, or are you saying the EU have lowered their standards since 1st jan ? We wouldn’t know would we? Whereas U.K. exporters are having their feet held to the fire every day. This is just a perfect example of Brexit hyperbole colliding with harsh reality. Freedom to impose our own regulations and tariffs on imports was supposed be a big advantage for British business. The U.K. Govt would support British exporters with independent regulations and tariffs to give Britain a competitive advantage. Day 1 has proven that this cannot be done. Adhering the regulations this Government itself negotiated would starve the country. How is that even remotely reasonable? Exporters from every country in the world have to abide by the regulations in the importing country do you not understand that ?, reducing standards/costs etc here might help.uk business in the UK market but not exporters. " But that wasn’t the promise was it? Of course I understand that regulations and tariffs have a negative effect on business - that is why I was and always have been in favour of the status quo. It is simply unbelievable that this Government are refusing to reciprocate the very regulations that they negotiated and which the EU are applying - and watching as British business gets clobbered. Do you not see the absolute irony of that? | |||
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"What do you mean we arent applying the regulations ? Of course we are they havent changed on either side, what we are doing is believing currently that importers are obeying the regs, the eu have decided our exporters arent, when if course they are, it's just the eu playing silly beggars. You do realise that Southampton, one of the biggest uk ports only have 2 % of imports from the rest of the world checked, most trade is based on trust between importers and exporters you are bonkers to cheat customers as they wont buy again. All this is political posturing" What has political posturing got to do with anything in this thread? The U.K. has been negotiating Brexit for five years and “presumably” they did have a plan at the end of it? The EU are/were in a similar position but somehow miraculously the inefficient behemoth that is too big and unwieldy managed to get their shit together in good time. Meanwhile, lithe, nimble Brexit U.K. have been unable to be ready and will likely remain in this state until some miracle occurs that delivers all our food and drink from elsewhere other than the EU. It’s just fucking disgraceful. That’s what it is. | |||
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"OP was far too long but I will just quote this bit: "- the reason for the massive decline is that the U.K. Govt has unilaterally decided not to impose import restrictions and is thereby wilfully damaging - by not protecting U.K. exporters" What on earth does that even mean? Import restrictions? Eh? You now ant tariffs? Bizarre. And frankly not many of us care what remainers "understood Brexit to be about", those of us who use the clear, distilled essence of pure thought understood perfectly what it was about and business has never been better
Ask your Professor mates about non-tariff barriers. They will help you understand.
If Brexit was all about fucking over our food & drinks industry - fair enough - it seems to be working. I just didn't see that written on the side of a bus.
Why would we want non tariff barriers? Uh?
What's that got to do with helping exporters?
If you can't explain it you don't understand it. Maybe a bit less mis copying of editorials and a bit more thought required. "There will be a 'yes minister' episode on this very point, and sir geoffrey will be able to explain eloquently | |||
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"What do you mean we arent applying the regulations ? Of course we are they havent changed on either side, what we are doing is believing currently that importers are obeying the regs, the eu have decided our exporters arent, when if course they are, it's just the eu playing silly beggars. You do realise that Southampton, one of the biggest uk ports only have 2 % of imports from the rest of the world checked, most trade is based on trust between importers and exporters you are bonkers to cheat customers as they wont buy again. All this is political posturing" I import and export a lot!! ie thousands of FTL They are not stopping the vehicles from the EU unlike our EU exports. What do you mean they haven’t changed regulations? That’s a ridiculous thing to say. Of course they have, we now have health checks and customs processes. If they imposed the full check system on imports the food would stop. We don’t have the infrastructure or staff to cope. Why else would they delay the import checks until 2022?? Wake up! Southampton is a deep sea port so just in time is mostly irrelevant and the process is electronic not physical as unfortunately it is with the EU on a lot of the routes. The containers have weeks to process paperwork and on arrival can be stored unlike a trailer with a driver waiting and the space needed in the terminal. | |||
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"What do you mean we arent applying the regulations ? Of course we are they havent changed on either side, what we are doing is believing currently that importers are obeying the regs, the eu have decided our exporters arent, when if course they are, it's just the eu playing silly beggars. You do realise that Southampton, one of the biggest uk ports only have 2 % of imports from the rest of the world checked, most trade is based on trust between importers and exporters you are bonkers to cheat customers as they wont buy again. All this is political posturing I import and export a lot!! ie thousands of FTL They are not stopping the vehicles from the EU unlike our EU exports. What do you mean they haven’t changed regulations? That’s a ridiculous thing to say. Of course they have, we now have health checks and customs processes. If they imposed the full check system on imports the food would stop. We don’t have the infrastructure or staff to cope. Why else would they delay the import checks until 2022?? Wake up! Southampton is a deep sea port so just in time is mostly irrelevant and the process is electronic not physical as unfortunately it is with the EU on a lot of the routes. The containers have weeks to process paperwork and on arrival can be stored unlike a trailer with a driver waiting and the space needed in the terminal. " What regulations have changed since 1st jan ? They are checking that we are still meeting them whereas before in the single market we didnt, its political posturing, UK importers will be ensuring products meet the regulations as if they sell stuff that doesnt they will be responsible not the exporter so the government doesn't need to. | |||
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"What do you mean we arent applying the regulations ? Of course we are they havent changed on either side, what we are doing is believing currently that importers are obeying the regs, the eu have decided our exporters arent, when if course they are, it's just the eu playing silly beggars. You do realise that Southampton, one of the biggest uk ports only have 2 % of imports from the rest of the world checked, most trade is based on trust between importers and exporters you are bonkers to cheat customers as they wont buy again. All this is political posturing I import and export a lot!! ie thousands of FTL They are not stopping the vehicles from the EU unlike our EU exports. What do you mean they haven’t changed regulations? That’s a ridiculous thing to say. Of course they have, we now have health checks and customs processes. If they imposed the full check system on imports the food would stop. We don’t have the infrastructure or staff to cope. Why else would they delay the import checks until 2022?? Wake up! Southampton is a deep sea port so just in time is mostly irrelevant and the process is electronic not physical as unfortunately it is with the EU on a lot of the routes. The containers have weeks to process paperwork and on arrival can be stored unlike a trailer with a driver waiting and the space needed in the terminal. What regulations have changed since 1st jan ? They are checking that we are still meeting them whereas before in the single market we didnt, its political posturing, UK importers will be ensuring products meet the regulations as if they sell stuff that doesnt they will be responsible not the exporter so the government doesn't need to." You obviously have not the slightest clue of what’s actually happening by claiming political posturing. We have spent in excess of six figures in direct costs on additional processes and regulations and that’s with us virtually stopping all our exports in January and the figures are up to the end of Feb as March numbers not done. The loss of business is considerably higher. The bills tell me you no fuck all of the reality. | |||
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"I understood that Brexit was supposed to be about taking back control and the Government having the ability to set tariffs to benefit U.K. business? The idea that the U.K. could be free of EU rules and be able to nimbly react to support British business was fundamental to the idea of Brexit. So here we are one full year into the pandemic and three months into Brexit and the Food & Drink Federation have released the most recent U.K. export figures into Europe - the reason for the massive decline is that the U.K. Govt has unilaterally decided not to impose import restrictions and is thereby wilfully damaging - by not protecting U.K. exporters. If we are not able to even reciprocate on non-tariff restrictions - just how would we deal with tariffs - or worse? Could it be that the U.K. Government has decided not to reciprocate because they would see a voter backlash if supermarket shelves started to empty? Fuck business instead??? Here is the Top Ten of Export slumps from January 2021 - stay tuned until next week when we will see who the movers snd shakers were in February. Salmon - down a whopping 98% Beef - down 91% Pork - down 87% Cheese - down 85% Animal Feed - down 80% Fish - down 79% Breakfast cereals - down 75% Chocolate - down 68% Whisky - down 63% Lamb products is the clear winner - down only 45% and surely a Brexit win because everyone thought lamb would be affected by much more than this. Losing less that half of lamb exports is surely a victory no? A lot of this caused by covid so your facts are false and also drops where expected in the short term Due to the third wave of covid in Europe this will be bad for a while yet as a lot of this food goes to the restuarant trade in France etc So your blaming covid, then saying it was an expected effect of brexit anyway, then blaming the restaurant trade in France. That's cleared that up then." Yes but you fail to understand it I guess could not have put it any simpler | |||
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"I understood that Brexit was supposed to be about taking back control and the Government having the ability to set tariffs to benefit U.K. business? The idea that the U.K. could be free of EU rules and be able to nimbly react to support British business was fundamental to the idea of Brexit. So here we are one full year into the pandemic and three months into Brexit and the Food & Drink Federation have released the most recent U.K. export figures into Europe - the reason for the massive decline is that the U.K. Govt has unilaterally decided not to impose import restrictions and is thereby wilfully damaging - by not protecting U.K. exporters. If we are not able to even reciprocate on non-tariff restrictions - just how would we deal with tariffs - or worse? Could it be that the U.K. Government has decided not to reciprocate because they would see a voter backlash if supermarket shelves started to empty? Fuck business instead??? Here is the Top Ten of Export slumps from January 2021 - stay tuned until next week when we will see who the movers snd shakers were in February. Salmon - down a whopping 98% Beef - down 91% Pork - down 87% Cheese - down 85% Animal Feed - down 80% Fish - down 79% Breakfast cereals - down 75% Chocolate - down 68% Whisky - down 63% Lamb products is the clear winner - down only 45% and surely a Brexit win because everyone thought lamb would be affected by much more than this. Losing less that half of lamb exports is surely a victory no? A lot of this caused by covid so your facts are false and also drops where expected in the short term Due to the third wave of covid in Europe this will be bad for a while yet as a lot of this food goes to the restuarant trade in France etc So your blaming covid, then saying it was an expected effect of brexit anyway, then blaming the restaurant trade in France. That's cleared that up then.Yes but you fail to understand it I guess could not have put it any simpler" Yeah, I understood what you're saying. It was pretty funny. | |||
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