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"Europe Why has Europe obsessed so many people in this country for so many years? The post-war suspicion of Germany and anti-Marshall Plan spending led to anti-EEC sentiment in the 1970’s, followed by Euroscepticism for another forty years and culminated in an ideologically driven Brexit campaign? So that should be it right? The boil has been lanced and we can finally move on? No fucking chance... The fetish obsession of being “better’” than them continues with a vengeance and no doubt the next flagshagging chant is already made... “Two World Wars, One World Cup and we killed the virus - doh dah” What is wrong with us?... Really." True though ain’t it  | |||
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"What’s wrong with wanting to be the best at anything. Having that drive is what drives progress." Do we try to prove on a daily basis that we are better than the USA? Better than Canada and Australia? Better than India or Japan? | |||
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"What’s wrong with wanting to be the best at anything. Having that drive is what drives progress. Do we try to prove on a daily basis that we are better than the USA? Better than Canada and Australia? Better than India or Japan?" For some it is ‘little man syndrome’ , Britain is great at many things, those that have to continually talk about are insecure . | |||
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"Plenty are out there on a daily basis telling us how terrible we are being and this in turn is causing tit for tat exchanges between factions - of cause petty childish name calling, for example “flag shaggers” will almost certainly fuel such things.gone are the days of discussing things online without names like remainers brexiteers etc. It’s all about the factions now you’re either one of us or you’re wrong." This country will take decades to recover from that, Brexit has caused a huge divide that both sides are to blame for | |||
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"I totally agree that the country will take decades to recover from this move to factions, but it’s bigger than the uk , it’s a world wide problem and again brexit only made use of it, the real culprit are Facebook and Twitter, that is where these factions thrive." The factions have always been there, Brexit has made them worse. I really don’t think it is necessary to keep telling everyone how ‘great we are ‘ ‘how rubbish the EU is’ etc etc, it is a sign of insecurity | |||
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"I totally agree that the country will take decades to recover from this move to factions, but it’s bigger than the uk , it’s a world wide problem and again brexit only made use of it, the real culprit are Facebook and Twitter, that is where these factions thrive. The factions have always been there, Brexit has made them worse. I really don’t think it is necessary to keep telling everyone how ‘great we are ‘ ‘how rubbish the EU is’ etc etc, it is a sign of insecurity " I agree with you totally | |||
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"What’s wrong with wanting to be the best at anything. Having that drive is what drives progress. Do we try to prove on a daily basis that we are better than the USA? Better than Canada and Australia? Better than India or Japan?" Dunno about the other countrys you mentioned but better than the usa yea definatley but then again id say most countrys are better than the usa its become a nuthouse.was the worlds superpower once upon a time now its times up. | |||
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"Europe Why has Europe obsessed so many people in this country for so many years? The post-war suspicion of Germany and anti-Marshall Plan spending led to anti-EEC sentiment in the 1970’s, followed by Euroscepticism for another forty years and culminated in an ideologically driven Brexit campaign? So that should be it right? The boil has been lanced and we can finally move on? No fucking chance... The fetish obsession of being “better’” than them continues with a vengeance and no doubt the next flagshagging chant is already made... “Two World Wars, One World Cup and we killed the virus - doh dah” What is wrong with us?... Really." Well I don't even agree with the diagnosis. To say Euroscepticism was mainly about suspicions concerning Germany is outrageous, a lot of healthy Euroscepticism came about quite logically because of De Gaulle's decade long refusal of British membership. | |||
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"Europe Why has Europe obsessed so many people in this country for so many years? The post-war suspicion of Germany and anti-Marshall Plan spending led to anti-EEC sentiment in the 1970’s, followed by Euroscepticism for another forty years and culminated in an ideologically driven Brexit campaign? So that should be it right? The boil has been lanced and we can finally move on? No fucking chance... The fetish obsession of being “better’” than them continues with a vengeance and no doubt the next flagshagging chant is already made... “Two World Wars, One World Cup and we killed the virus - doh dah” What is wrong with us?... Really." Nothing the French think they are better than us as do the Germans etc it is normal to be proud of your country.Sadly there are a few that do not seem to share this,I do not understand.Being proud if your country is important and not being is something to be ashamed off. The people of all nations should believe they are better national pride is as natural as breathing air in my view | |||
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"What’s wrong with wanting to be the best at anything. Having that drive is what drives progress." | |||
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"Europe Why has Europe obsessed so many people in this country for so many years? The post-war suspicion of Germany and anti-Marshall Plan spending led to anti-EEC sentiment in the 1970’s, followed by Euroscepticism for another forty years and culminated in an ideologically driven Brexit campaign? So that should be it right? The boil has been lanced and we can finally move on? No fucking chance... The fetish obsession of being “better’” than them continues with a vengeance and no doubt the next flagshagging chant is already made... “Two World Wars, One World Cup and we killed the virus - doh dah” What is wrong with us?... Really.Nothing the French think they are better than us as do the Germans etc it is normal to be proud of your country.Sadly there are a few that do not seem to share this,I do not understand.Being proud if your country is important and not being is something to be ashamed off. The people of all nations should believe they are better national pride is as natural as breathing air in my view" As natural as breathing air ? Seriously?  | |||
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"Europe Why has Europe obsessed so many people in this country for so many years? The post-war suspicion of Germany and anti-Marshall Plan spending led to anti-EEC sentiment in the 1970’s, followed by Euroscepticism for another forty years and culminated in an ideologically driven Brexit campaign? So that should be it right? The boil has been lanced and we can finally move on? No fucking chance... The fetish obsession of being “better’” than them continues with a vengeance and no doubt the next flagshagging chant is already made... “Two World Wars, One World Cup and we killed the virus - doh dah” What is wrong with us?... Really. Well I don't even agree with the diagnosis. To say Euroscepticism was mainly about suspicions concerning Germany is outrageous, a lot of healthy Euroscepticism came about quite logically because of De Gaulle's decade long refusal of British membership. " Most of his suspicions came to be true | |||
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"Europe Why has Europe obsessed so many people in this country for so many years? The post-war suspicion of Germany and anti-Marshall Plan spending led to anti-EEC sentiment in the 1970’s, followed by Euroscepticism for another forty years and culminated in an ideologically driven Brexit campaign? So that should be it right? The boil has been lanced and we can finally move on? No fucking chance... The fetish obsession of being “better’” than them continues with a vengeance and no doubt the next flagshagging chant is already made... “Two World Wars, One World Cup and we killed the virus - doh dah” What is wrong with us?... Really." yet you have posted another Europe thread lol | |||
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"Europe Why has Europe obsessed so many people in this country for so many years? The post-war suspicion of Germany and anti-Marshall Plan spending led to anti-EEC sentiment in the 1970’s, followed by Euroscepticism for another forty years and culminated in an ideologically driven Brexit campaign? So that should be it right? The boil has been lanced and we can finally move on? No fucking chance... The fetish obsession of being “better’” than them continues with a vengeance and no doubt the next flagshagging chant is already made... “Two World Wars, One World Cup and we killed the virus - doh dah” What is wrong with us?... Really. Well I don't even agree with the diagnosis. To say Euroscepticism was mainly about suspicions concerning Germany is outrageous, a lot of healthy Euroscepticism came about quite logically because of De Gaulle's decade long refusal of British membership. Most of his suspicions came to be true "De Gaulle was mainly motivated by the debt he felt over his wartime refuge in London. | |||
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"Europe Why has Europe obsessed so many people in this country for so many years? The post-war suspicion of Germany and anti-Marshall Plan spending led to anti-EEC sentiment in the 1970’s, followed by Euroscepticism for another forty years and culminated in an ideologically driven Brexit campaign? So that should be it right? The boil has been lanced and we can finally move on? No fucking chance... The fetish obsession of being “better’” than them continues with a vengeance and no doubt the next flagshagging chant is already made... “Two World Wars, One World Cup and we killed the virus - doh dah” What is wrong with us?... Really. Well I don't even agree with the diagnosis. To say Euroscepticism was mainly about suspicions concerning Germany is outrageous, a lot of healthy Euroscepticism came about quite logically because of De Gaulle's decade long refusal of British membership. Most of his suspicions came to be true
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"I totally agree that the country will take decades to recover from this move to factions, but it’s bigger than the uk , it’s a world wide problem and again brexit only made use of it, the real culprit are Facebook and Twitter, that is where these factions thrive." Seems pretty devisive in here as well ! | |||
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"What’s wrong with wanting to be the best at anything. Having that drive is what drives progress. Do we try to prove on a daily basis that we are better than the USA? Better than Canada and Australia? Better than India or Japan? Dunno about the other countrys you mentioned but better than the usa yea definatley but then again id say most countrys are better than the usa its become a nuthouse.was the worlds superpower once upon a time now its times up." Then the world don't need our help anymore. We can go back to the "America First" policy. All for that 100%. Let your empire rule once again. | |||
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"What’s wrong with wanting to be the best at anything. Having that drive is what drives progress. Do we try to prove on a daily basis that we are better than the USA? Better than Canada and Australia? Better than India or Japan? Dunno about the other countrys you mentioned but better than the usa yea definatley but then again id say most countrys are better than the usa its become a nuthouse.was the worlds superpower once upon a time now its times up. Then the world don't need our help anymore. We can go back to the "America First" policy. All for that 100%. Let your empire rule once again." Whenever America ‘helps’ anyone it is always for financial gain . | |||
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"What’s wrong with wanting to be the best at anything. Having that drive is what drives progress. Do we try to prove on a daily basis that we are better than the USA? Better than Canada and Australia? Better than India or Japan? Dunno about the other countrys you mentioned but better than the usa yea definatley but then again id say most countrys are better than the usa its become a nuthouse.was the worlds superpower once upon a time now its times up. Then the world don't need our help anymore. We can go back to the "America First" policy. All for that 100%. Let your empire rule once again." Are you saying USA is ruling at the moment? | |||
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"What’s wrong with wanting to be the best at anything. Having that drive is what drives progress. Do we try to prove on a daily basis that we are better than the USA? Better than Canada and Australia? Better than India or Japan? Dunno about the other countrys you mentioned but better than the usa yea definatley but then again id say most countrys are better than the usa its become a nuthouse.was the worlds superpower once upon a time now its times up. Then the world don't need our help anymore. We can go back to the "America First" policy. All for that 100%. Let your empire rule once again. Are you saying USA is ruling at the moment?" No china is. Hence the america first policy. No one wants to believe they a threat. So why should we spend anymore of taxpayer money on global defense. It can better be spent on programs here. Make up your minds. This "nuthouse" is the only counter to that threat. | |||
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"Brexit UK isolationism policy. America first same policy. Same policy different packaging. " Not to sure i would agree with that statement but each their own | |||
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"Brexit UK isolationism policy. America first same policy. Same policy different packaging. Not to sure i would agree with that statement but each their own " Don't have to agree but is a UK first policy otherwise the UK will still be in the EU. Yup we are the nut jobs for not having the same. | |||
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"Brexit UK isolationism policy. America first same policy. Same policy different packaging. Not to sure i would agree with that statement but each their own Don't have to agree but is a UK first policy otherwise the UK will still be in the EU. Yup we are the nut jobs for not having the same." There are similarities. Both brexit and Trump's "America first" were both based on false promises to make life better for ordinary people. All bluster and distraction while Trump lined his own pockets and gave himself tax breaks. Same with the Tories. Plenty of them made 100s of millions from brexit, while they genuinely didn't give a shit about the consequences for ordinary people. When Trump was elected it was "Americas brexit", a self inflicted national wound. | |||
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"Brexit UK isolationism policy. America first same policy. Same policy different packaging. Not to sure i would agree with that statement but each their own Don't have to agree but is a UK first policy otherwise the UK will still be in the EU. Yup we are the nut jobs for not having the same." Not quite the UK joined a common market, not the EU they left. Not the same as the Sates. | |||
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"Brexit UK isolationism policy. America first same policy. Same policy different packaging. Not to sure i would agree with that statement but each their own Don't have to agree but is a UK first policy otherwise the UK will still be in the EU. Yup we are the nut jobs for not having the same. Not quite the UK joined a common market, not the EU they left. Not the same as the Sates. " Free trade keeps british empire alive. No more involvement in EU affairs Protect colonial interests. | |||
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"Europe Why has Europe obsessed so many people in this country for so many years? The post-war suspicion of Germany and anti-Marshall Plan spending led to anti-EEC sentiment in the 1970’s, followed by Euroscepticism for another forty years and culminated in an ideologically driven Brexit campaign? So that should be it right? The boil has been lanced and we can finally move on? No fucking chance... The fetish obsession of being “better’” than them continues with a vengeance and no doubt the next flagshagging chant is already made... “Two World Wars, One World Cup and we killed the virus - doh dah” What is wrong with us?... Really." Things that have happened in Europe have affected this country for many many years and will do into the future so yes its of interest. | |||
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"Europe Why has Europe obsessed so many people in this country for so many years? The post-war suspicion of Germany and anti-Marshall Plan spending led to anti-EEC sentiment in the 1970’s, followed by Euroscepticism for another forty years and culminated in an ideologically driven Brexit campaign? So that should be it right? The boil has been lanced and we can finally move on? No fucking chance... The fetish obsession of being “better’” than them continues with a vengeance and no doubt the next flagshagging chant is already made... “Two World Wars, One World Cup and we killed the virus - doh dah” What is wrong with us?... Really. Things that have happened in Europe have affected this country for many many years and will do into the future so yes its of interest." What like? | |||
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"Europe Why has Europe obsessed so many people in this country for so many years? The post-war suspicion of Germany and anti-Marshall Plan spending led to anti-EEC sentiment in the 1970’s, followed by Euroscepticism for another forty years and culminated in an ideologically driven Brexit campaign? So that should be it right? The boil has been lanced and we can finally move on? No fucking chance... The fetish obsession of being “better’” than them continues with a vengeance and no doubt the next flagshagging chant is already made... “Two World Wars, One World Cup and we killed the virus - doh dah” What is wrong with us?... Really. Things that have happened in Europe have affected this country for many many years and will do into the future so yes its of interest." Like regulations on produce imported into the EU? That we have to comply with but no longer have any say in. If only we had a seat at this decision making table eh! | |||
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"Europe Why has Europe obsessed so many people in this country for so many years? The post-war suspicion of Germany and anti-Marshall Plan spending led to anti-EEC sentiment in the 1970’s, followed by Euroscepticism for another forty years and culminated in an ideologically driven Brexit campaign? So that should be it right? The boil has been lanced and we can finally move on? No fucking chance... The fetish obsession of being “better’” than them continues with a vengeance and no doubt the next flagshagging chant is already made... “Two World Wars, One World Cup and we killed the virus - doh dah” What is wrong with us?... Really. Things that have happened in Europe have affected this country for many many years and will do into the future so yes its of interest. Like regulations on produce imported into the EU? That we have to comply with but no longer have any say in. If only we had a seat at this decision making table eh!" You've put your finger on it there if you only realised Decision making is incompatible with having 27 countries around a table. How can you not see that?  | |||
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"Europe Why has Europe obsessed so many people in this country for so many years? The post-war suspicion of Germany and anti-Marshall Plan spending led to anti-EEC sentiment in the 1970’s, followed by Euroscepticism for another forty years and culminated in an ideologically driven Brexit campaign? So that should be it right? The boil has been lanced and we can finally move on? No fucking chance... The fetish obsession of being “better’” than them continues with a vengeance and no doubt the next flagshagging chant is already made... “Two World Wars, One World Cup and we killed the virus - doh dah” What is wrong with us?... Really. Things that have happened in Europe have affected this country for many many years and will do into the future so yes its of interest. Like regulations on produce imported into the EU? That we have to comply with but no longer have any say in. If only we had a seat at this decision making table eh! You've put your finger on it there if you only realised Decision making is incompatible with having 27 countries around a table. How can you not see that? "So much better to have these decisions made without having a say? In my opinion. It's better to have some control over what's going on. | |||
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"Europe Why has Europe obsessed so many people in this country for so many years? The post-war suspicion of Germany and anti-Marshall Plan spending led to anti-EEC sentiment in the 1970’s, followed by Euroscepticism for another forty years and culminated in an ideologically driven Brexit campaign? So that should be it right? The boil has been lanced and we can finally move on? No fucking chance... The fetish obsession of being “better’” than them continues with a vengeance and no doubt the next flagshagging chant is already made... “Two World Wars, One World Cup and we killed the virus - doh dah” What is wrong with us?... Really. Things that have happened in Europe have affected this country for many many years and will do into the future so yes its of interest. Like regulations on produce imported into the EU? That we have to comply with but no longer have any say in. If only we had a seat at this decision making table eh! You've put your finger on it there if you only realised Decision making is incompatible with having 27 countries around a table. How can you not see that? "Seems to have worked ok for the best part of 4 decades | |||
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"Europe Why has Europe obsessed so many people in this country for so many years? The post-war suspicion of Germany and anti-Marshall Plan spending led to anti-EEC sentiment in the 1970’s, followed by Euroscepticism for another forty years and culminated in an ideologically driven Brexit campaign? So that should be it right? The boil has been lanced and we can finally move on? No fucking chance... The fetish obsession of being “better’” than them continues with a vengeance and no doubt the next flagshagging chant is already made... “Two World Wars, One World Cup and we killed the virus - doh dah” What is wrong with us?... Really. Things that have happened in Europe have affected this country for many many years and will do into the future so yes its of interest. Like regulations on produce imported into the EU? That we have to comply with but no longer have any say in. If only we had a seat at this decision making table eh! You've put your finger on it there if you only realised Decision making is incompatible with having 27 countries around a table. How can you not see that?
Seems to have worked ok for the best part of 4 decades "Tbh, it will work even better now Britain has left | |||
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"Europe Why has Europe obsessed so many people in this country for so many years? The post-war suspicion of Germany and anti-Marshall Plan spending led to anti-EEC sentiment in the 1970’s, followed by Euroscepticism for another forty years and culminated in an ideologically driven Brexit campaign? So that should be it right? The boil has been lanced and we can finally move on? No fucking chance... The fetish obsession of being “better’” than them continues with a vengeance and no doubt the next flagshagging chant is already made... “Two World Wars, One World Cup and we killed the virus - doh dah” What is wrong with us?... Really. Things that have happened in Europe have affected this country for many many years and will do into the future so yes its of interest. Like regulations on produce imported into the EU? That we have to comply with but no longer have any say in. If only we had a seat at this decision making table eh! You've put your finger on it there if you only realised Decision making is incompatible with having 27 countries around a table. How can you not see that?
Seems to have worked ok for the best part of 4 decades
Tbh, it will work even better now Britain has left "Without Farage there. Absolutely. | |||
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"Europe Why has Europe obsessed so many people in this country for so many years? The post-war suspicion of Germany and anti-Marshall Plan spending led to anti-EEC sentiment in the 1970’s, followed by Euroscepticism for another forty years and culminated in an ideologically driven Brexit campaign? So that should be it right? The boil has been lanced and we can finally move on? No fucking chance... The fetish obsession of being “better’” than them continues with a vengeance and no doubt the next flagshagging chant is already made... “Two World Wars, One World Cup and we killed the virus - doh dah” What is wrong with us?... Really. Things that have happened in Europe have affected this country for many many years and will do into the future so yes its of interest. Like regulations on produce imported into the EU? That we have to comply with but no longer have any say in. If only we had a seat at this decision making table eh! You've put your finger on it there if you only realised Decision making is incompatible with having 27 countries around a table. How can you not see that?
Seems to have worked ok for the best part of 4 decades
Tbh, it will work even better now Britain has left "True They dont have to deal with the clown now | |||
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"Europe Why has Europe obsessed so many people in this country for so many years? The post-war suspicion of Germany and anti-Marshall Plan spending led to anti-EEC sentiment in the 1970’s, followed by Euroscepticism for another forty years and culminated in an ideologically driven Brexit campaign? So that should be it right? The boil has been lanced and we can finally move on? No fucking chance... The fetish obsession of being “better’” than them continues with a vengeance and no doubt the next flagshagging chant is already made... “Two World Wars, One World Cup and we killed the virus - doh dah” What is wrong with us?... Really. Things that have happened in Europe have affected this country for many many years and will do into the future so yes its of interest. Like regulations on produce imported into the EU? That we have to comply with but no longer have any say in. If only we had a seat at this decision making table eh! You've put your finger on it there if you only realised Decision making is incompatible with having 27 countries around a table. How can you not see that?
Seems to have worked ok for the best part of 4 decades "There was only 8 countries in the eec 40years ago but you're right it did work pretty well then, just a trading block, no empire building plans etc, if it went back to that I'm sure it would be popular. | |||
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"Europe Why has Europe obsessed so many people in this country for so many years? The post-war suspicion of Germany and anti-Marshall Plan spending led to anti-EEC sentiment in the 1970’s, followed by Euroscepticism for another forty years and culminated in an ideologically driven Brexit campaign? So that should be it right? The boil has been lanced and we can finally move on? No fucking chance... The fetish obsession of being “better’” than them continues with a vengeance and no doubt the next flagshagging chant is already made... “Two World Wars, One World Cup and we killed the virus - doh dah” What is wrong with us?... Really. Things that have happened in Europe have affected this country for many many years and will do into the future so yes its of interest. What like?" Like 2 major wars. Some smaller ones too. Iron curtain ect as examples of the past. A prosperous Europe is good for the UK too so how they go forward is also of interest | |||
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"Europe Why has Europe obsessed so many people in this country for so many years? The post-war suspicion of Germany and anti-Marshall Plan spending led to anti-EEC sentiment in the 1970’s, followed by Euroscepticism for another forty years and culminated in an ideologically driven Brexit campaign? So that should be it right? The boil has been lanced and we can finally move on? No fucking chance... The fetish obsession of being “better’” than them continues with a vengeance and no doubt the next flagshagging chant is already made... “Two World Wars, One World Cup and we killed the virus - doh dah” What is wrong with us?... Really. Things that have happened in Europe have affected this country for many many years and will do into the future so yes its of interest. What like? Like 2 major wars. Some smaller ones too. Iron curtain ect as examples of the past. A prosperous Europe is good for the UK too so how they go forward is also of interest" I'm not sure what your point about the wars is tbh. We entered both wars willingly. | |||
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"Europe Why has Europe obsessed so many people in this country for so many years? The post-war suspicion of Germany and anti-Marshall Plan spending led to anti-EEC sentiment in the 1970’s, followed by Euroscepticism for another forty years and culminated in an ideologically driven Brexit campaign? So that should be it right? The boil has been lanced and we can finally move on? No fucking chance... The fetish obsession of being “better’” than them continues with a vengeance and no doubt the next flagshagging chant is already made... “Two World Wars, One World Cup and we killed the virus - doh dah” What is wrong with us?... Really. Things that have happened in Europe have affected this country for many many years and will do into the future so yes its of interest. What like? Like 2 major wars. Some smaller ones too. Iron curtain ect as examples of the past. A prosperous Europe is good for the UK too so how they go forward is also of interest I'm not sure what your point about the wars is tbh. We entered both wars willingly." I don't know why you put that. I never mentioned about our participation in the wars. I said what happens in Europe affects us | |||
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