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"https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/15/merkel-macron-playing-price-vaccine-failure/ BTW this post is NOT about the EU it is however about Merkel & Macron. "They have made some awful mistakes, but the vaccine roll out is a marathon not a sprint . | |||
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"Just so I can clearly declare my interest in both. 1. I am half French and have family there. 2. My Husbands Niece is at School in Germany. In these Pandemic times it should clearly be a race to get all populations of the world vaccinated. Both leaders have behaved deplorably in this regard. " I agree, it is a global pandemic that needs a global vaccine roll out, it shouldn’t be a race between countries | |||
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"Just so I can clearly declare my interest in both. 1. I am half French and have family there. 2. My Husbands Niece is at School in Germany. In these Pandemic times it should clearly be a race to get all populations of the world vaccinated. Both leaders have behaved deplorably in this regard. I agree, it is a global pandemic that needs a global vaccine roll out, it shouldn’t be a race between countries " Nothing I have posted suggests it is a race between countries. | |||
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"Just so I can clearly declare my interest in both. 1. I am half French and have family there. 2. My Husbands Niece is at School in Germany. In these Pandemic times it should clearly be a race to get all populations of the world vaccinated. Both leaders have behaved deplorably in this regard. I agree, it is a global pandemic that needs a global vaccine roll out, it shouldn’t be a race between countries Nothing I have posted suggests it is a race between countries." I never said you did, | |||
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"https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/15/merkel-macron-playing-price-vaccine-failure/ BTW this post is NOT about the EU it is however about Merkel & Macron. "Well if you add Ursula to the mix then we pretty much are talking about Brussels | |||
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"https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/15/merkel-macron-playing-price-vaccine-failure/ BTW this post is NOT about the EU it is however about Merkel & Macron.
Well if you add Ursula to the mix then we pretty much are talking about Brussels "As the OP has stated, this isn’t about the EU, your obsession has been noted | |||
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"https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/15/merkel-macron-playing-price-vaccine-failure/ BTW this post is NOT about the EU it is however about Merkel & Macron.
Well if you add Ursula to the mix then we pretty much are talking about Brussels
As the OP has stated, this isn’t about the EU, your obsession has been noted "It cant possibly be about the eu we all move together is (was) their mantra.  | |||
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"Just so I can clearly declare my interest in both. 1. I am half French and have family there. 2. My Husbands Niece is at School in Germany. In these Pandemic times it should clearly be a race to get all populations of the world vaccinated. Both leaders have behaved deplorably in this regard. I agree, it is a global pandemic that needs a global vaccine roll out, it shouldn’t be a race between countries " True but it is in someways. The actions of the EU are discusting and dispite medical advice there attitude over Oxford vaccine is hurting them more than hurting us. They are gamaging there own people and economies to get back at the UK. This fighting a battle they can only lose. | |||
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"Could it be that Germany wants to sell their more expensive vaccine and can only do it by saying the cheaper vaccine that more can afford is dodgy?" Germany dont ‘own ‘ a vaccine just like the UK don’t ‘own’ a vaccine  | |||
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"Could it be that Germany wants to sell their more expensive vaccine and can only do it by saying the cheaper vaccine that more can afford is dodgy? Germany dont ‘own ‘ a vaccine just like the UK don’t ‘own’ a vaccine "who said they do but BioNTech is a german company more profit more tax blimey do you need everything explained? | |||
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"Could it be that Germany wants to sell their more expensive vaccine and can only do it by saying the cheaper vaccine that more can afford is dodgy? Germany dont ‘own ‘ a vaccine just like the UK don’t ‘own’ a vaccine who said they do but BioNTech is a german company more profit more tax blimey do you need everything explained?"Yes is the quick answer to that  | |||
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"Could it be that Germany wants to sell their more expensive vaccine and can only do it by saying the cheaper vaccine that more can afford is dodgy? Germany dont ‘own ‘ a vaccine just like the UK don’t ‘own’ a vaccine who said they do but BioNTech is a german company more profit more tax blimey do you need everything explained?
Yes is the quick answer to that "It seems so. | |||
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"Could it be that Germany wants to sell their more expensive vaccine and can only do it by saying the cheaper vaccine that more can afford is dodgy? Germany dont ‘own ‘ a vaccine just like the UK don’t ‘own’ a vaccine who said they do but BioNTech is a german company more profit more tax blimey do you need everything explained?"More tax? Are you sure tax is paid on the vaccines? | |||
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"Could it be that Germany wants to sell their more expensive vaccine and can only do it by saying the cheaper vaccine that more can afford is dodgy? Germany dont ‘own ‘ a vaccine just like the UK don’t ‘own’ a vaccine who said they do but BioNTech is a german company more profit more tax blimey do you need everything explained?"https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/news/covid-19-commission-puts-forward-taxation-and-customs-measures-support-access-more-affordable-equipment-vaccines-and-testing-kits_en | |||
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"Could it be that Germany wants to sell their more expensive vaccine and can only do it by saying the cheaper vaccine that more can afford is dodgy? Germany dont ‘own ‘ a vaccine just like the UK don’t ‘own’ a vaccine who said they do but BioNTech is a german company more profit more tax blimey do you need everything explained?
More tax? Are you sure tax is paid on the vaccines?
"Tax is paid on company profits ffs. | |||
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"Could it be that Germany wants to sell their more expensive vaccine and can only do it by saying the cheaper vaccine that more can afford is dodgy? Germany dont ‘own ‘ a vaccine just like the UK don’t ‘own’ a vaccine who said they do but BioNTech is a german company more profit more tax blimey do you need everything explained?
More tax? Are you sure tax is paid on the vaccines?
Tax is paid on company profits ffs."The vaccine is non profit ffs | |||
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"Could it be that Germany wants to sell their more expensive vaccine and can only do it by saying the cheaper vaccine that more can afford is dodgy? Germany dont ‘own ‘ a vaccine just like the UK don’t ‘own’ a vaccine who said they do but BioNTech is a german company more profit more tax blimey do you need everything explained?
More tax? Are you sure tax is paid on the vaccines?
Tax is paid on company profits ffs.
The vaccine is non profit ffs"Funny how the oxford one is £3 a jab and the german one £15  | |||
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"Could it be that Germany wants to sell their more expensive vaccine and can only do it by saying the cheaper vaccine that more can afford is dodgy? Germany dont ‘own ‘ a vaccine just like the UK don’t ‘own’ a vaccine who said they do but BioNTech is a german company more profit more tax blimey do you need everything explained?
More tax? Are you sure tax is paid on the vaccines?
Tax is paid on company profits ffs.
The vaccine is non profit ffsFunny how the oxford one is £3 a jab and the german one £15 "Extra costs, just like a bmw costs more than robin reliant | |||
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"Could it be that Germany wants to sell their more expensive vaccine and can only do it by saying the cheaper vaccine that more can afford is dodgy? Germany dont ‘own ‘ a vaccine just like the UK don’t ‘own’ a vaccine who said they do but BioNTech is a german company more profit more tax blimey do you need everything explained?
More tax? Are you sure tax is paid on the vaccines?
Tax is paid on company profits ffs.
The vaccine is non profit ffsFunny how the oxford one is £3 a jab and the german one £15
Extra costs, just like a bmw costs more than robin reliant " | |||
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"Could it be that Germany wants to sell their more expensive vaccine and can only do it by saying the cheaper vaccine that more can afford is dodgy? Germany dont ‘own ‘ a vaccine just like the UK don’t ‘own’ a vaccine who said they do but BioNTech is a german company more profit more tax blimey do you need everything explained?
More tax? Are you sure tax is paid on the vaccines?
Tax is paid on company profits ffs.
The vaccine is non profit ffs"It is for johnson and johnson and AstraZeneca not so for biontech and pfizer i stick by my original assumption. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/nov/10/pfizer-and-biontech-could-make-13bn-from-coronavirus-vaccine | |||
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"Just so I can clearly declare my interest in both. 1. I am half French and have family there. 2. My Husbands Niece is at School in Germany. In these Pandemic times it should clearly be a race to get all populations of the world vaccinated. Both leaders have behaved deplorably in this regard. I agree, it is a global pandemic that needs a global vaccine roll out, it shouldn’t be a race between countries " Apparently its sound to compare ourselves to other countries when talking about the vaccine.. but completely inappropriate to do so with the rate...something about counting or density..I forget. | |||
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"Could it be that Germany wants to sell their more expensive vaccine and can only do it by saying the cheaper vaccine that more can afford is dodgy? Germany dont ‘own ‘ a vaccine just like the UK don’t ‘own’ a vaccine who said they do but BioNTech is a german company more profit more tax blimey do you need everything explained?
More tax? Are you sure tax is paid on the vaccines?
Tax is paid on company profits ffs.
The vaccine is non profit ffsIt is for johnson and johnson and AstraZeneca not so for biontech and pfizer i stick by my original assumption.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/nov/10/pfizer-and-biontech-could-make-13bn-from-coronavirus-vaccine"‘Could make ‘? | |||
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"Funny how today the biontech have stepped in just today to make up the shortfall. The EU roll out has been a disaster. All EU country’s are all trying to do side deals. Spain has been very damming of the whole issue. " The big drugs companies have powerful lobbyists in Brussels. How they must hate a not for profit vaccine. Draw your own conclusions. | |||
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"Just so I can clearly declare my interest in both. 1. I am half French and have family there. 2. My Husbands Niece is at School in Germany. In these Pandemic times it should clearly be a race to get all populations of the world vaccinated. Both leaders have behaved deplorably in this regard. I agree, it is a global pandemic that needs a global vaccine roll out, it shouldn’t be a race between countries Apparently its sound to compare ourselves to other countries when talking about the vaccine.. but completely inappropriate to do so with the rate...something about counting or density..I forget." Vaccine in the arm is a universal counting system. Deaths due or because of Covid isn't as universal. | |||
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"Could it be that Germany wants to sell their more expensive vaccine and can only do it by saying the cheaper vaccine that more can afford is dodgy? Germany dont ‘own ‘ a vaccine just like the UK don’t ‘own’ a vaccine who said they do but BioNTech is a german company more profit more tax blimey do you need everything explained?
More tax? Are you sure tax is paid on the vaccines?
Tax is paid on company profits ffs.
The vaccine is non profit ffsIt is for johnson and johnson and AstraZeneca not so for biontech and pfizer i stick by my original assumption.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/nov/10/pfizer-and-biontech-could-make-13bn-from-coronavirus-vaccine"https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55170756 | |||
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"Could it be that Germany wants to sell their more expensive vaccine and can only do it by saying the cheaper vaccine that more can afford is dodgy? Germany dont ‘own ‘ a vaccine just like the UK don’t ‘own’ a vaccine who said they do but BioNTech is a german company more profit more tax blimey do you need everything explained?
More tax? Are you sure tax is paid on the vaccines?
Tax is paid on company profits ffs.
The vaccine is non profit ffsIt is for johnson and johnson and AstraZeneca not so for biontech and pfizer i stick by my original assumption.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/nov/10/pfizer-and-biontech-could-make-13bn-from-coronavirus-vaccine
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55170756"Any chance of a precis before asking me to click on random links that may in inappertune to the subject? | |||
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"Could it be that Germany wants to sell their more expensive vaccine and can only do it by saying the cheaper vaccine that more can afford is dodgy? Germany dont ‘own ‘ a vaccine just like the UK don’t ‘own’ a vaccine who said they do but BioNTech is a german company more profit more tax blimey do you need everything explained?
More tax? Are you sure tax is paid on the vaccines?
Tax is paid on company profits ffs.
The vaccine is non profit ffsIt is for johnson and johnson and AstraZeneca not so for biontech and pfizer i stick by my original assumption.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/nov/10/pfizer-and-biontech-could-make-13bn-from-coronavirus-vaccine
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55170756
Any chance of a precis before asking me to click on random links that may in inappertune to the subject? "No | |||
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"Just so I can clearly declare my interest in both. 1. I am half French and have family there. 2. My Husbands Niece is at School in Germany. In these Pandemic times it should clearly be a race to get all populations of the world vaccinated. Both leaders have behaved deplorably in this regard. I agree, it is a global pandemic that needs a global vaccine roll out, it shouldn’t be a race between countries Apparently its sound to compare ourselves to other countries when talking about the vaccine.. but completely inappropriate to do so with the rate...something about counting or density..I forget. Vaccine in the arm is a universal counting system. Deaths due or because of Covid isn't as universal. " It's still a fairly good indicator. | |||
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"Just so I can clearly declare my interest in both. 1. I am half French and have family there. 2. My Husbands Niece is at School in Germany. In these Pandemic times it should clearly be a race to get all populations of the world vaccinated. Both leaders have behaved deplorably in this regard. I agree, it is a global pandemic that needs a global vaccine roll out, it shouldn’t be a race between countries Apparently its sound to compare ourselves to other countries when talking about the vaccine.. but completely inappropriate to do so with the rate...something about counting or density..I forget." 1. Where exactly is the 'comparing'. 2. Go start a thread on comparing if you like. I didn't start that in the OP. How many times do you really have to be told things that you say I said that actually I didn't say? | |||
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"Just so I can clearly declare my interest in both. 1. I am half French and have family there. 2. My Husbands Niece is at School in Germany. In these Pandemic times it should clearly be a race to get all populations of the world vaccinated. Both leaders have behaved deplorably in this regard. I agree, it is a global pandemic that needs a global vaccine roll out, it shouldn’t be a race between countries Apparently its sound to compare ourselves to other countries when talking about the vaccine.. but completely inappropriate to do so with the rate...something about counting or density..I forget. 1. Where exactly is the 'comparing'. 2. Go start a thread on comparing if you like. I didn't start that in the OP. How many times do you really have to be told things that you say I said that actually I didn't say?" Yep no one has ever once ever favourably compared our roll out to the eu. | |||
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"Just so I can clearly declare my interest in both. 1. I am half French and have family there. 2. My Husbands Niece is at School in Germany. In these Pandemic times it should clearly be a race to get all populations of the world vaccinated. Both leaders have behaved deplorably in this regard. I agree, it is a global pandemic that needs a global vaccine roll out, it shouldn’t be a race between countries Apparently its sound to compare ourselves to other countries when talking about the vaccine.. but completely inappropriate to do so with the rate...something about counting or density..I forget. 1. Where exactly is the 'comparing'. 2. Go start a thread on comparing if you like. I didn't start that in the OP. How many times do you really have to be told things that you say I said that actually I didn't say? Yep no one has ever once ever favourably compared our roll out to the eu." And that has NOTHING to do with what I posted in the OP. If you want to say something about comparing go do it. It's NOT what I posted in this OP. | |||
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"Just so I can clearly declare my interest in both. 1. I am half French and have family there. 2. My Husbands Niece is at School in Germany. In these Pandemic times it should clearly be a race to get all populations of the world vaccinated. Both leaders have behaved deplorably in this regard. I agree, it is a global pandemic that needs a global vaccine roll out, it shouldn’t be a race between countries Apparently its sound to compare ourselves to other countries when talking about the vaccine.. but completely inappropriate to do so with the rate...something about counting or density..I forget. 1. Where exactly is the 'comparing'. 2. Go start a thread on comparing if you like. I didn't start that in the OP. How many times do you really have to be told things that you say I said that actually I didn't say? Yep no one has ever once ever favourably compared our roll out to the eu. And that has NOTHING to do with what I posted in the OP. If you want to say something about comparing go do it. It's NOT what I posted in this OP. " You realise not every post I make is about you? | |||
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"Just so I can clearly declare my interest in both. 1. I am half French and have family there. 2. My Husbands Niece is at School in Germany. In these Pandemic times it should clearly be a race to get all populations of the world vaccinated. Both leaders have behaved deplorably in this regard. I agree, it is a global pandemic that needs a global vaccine roll out, it shouldn’t be a race between countries Apparently its sound to compare ourselves to other countries when talking about the vaccine.. but completely inappropriate to do so with the rate...something about counting or density..I forget. 1. Where exactly is the 'comparing'. 2. Go start a thread on comparing if you like. I didn't start that in the OP. How many times do you really have to be told things that you say I said that actually I didn't say? Yep no one has ever once ever favourably compared our roll out to the eu. And that has NOTHING to do with what I posted in the OP. If you want to say something about comparing go do it. It's NOT what I posted in this OP. You realise not every post I make is about you?" Then don't say in any of my posts something that I didn't say. Otherwise I'll assume you are | |||
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"Just so I can clearly declare my interest in both. 1. I am half French and have family there. 2. My Husbands Niece is at School in Germany. In these Pandemic times it should clearly be a race to get all populations of the world vaccinated. Both leaders have behaved deplorably in this regard. I agree, it is a global pandemic that needs a global vaccine roll out, it shouldn’t be a race between countries Apparently its sound to compare ourselves to other countries when talking about the vaccine.. but completely inappropriate to do so with the rate...something about counting or density..I forget. 1. Where exactly is the 'comparing'. 2. Go start a thread on comparing if you like. I didn't start that in the OP. How many times do you really have to be told things that you say I said that actually I didn't say? Yep no one has ever once ever favourably compared our roll out to the eu. And that has NOTHING to do with what I posted in the OP. If you want to say something about comparing go do it. It's NOT what I posted in this OP. You realise not every post I make is about you?" Would you concede that Brussels has made the supply situation a smidgeon worse than it needed to be due to political posturing? | |||
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"Just so I can clearly declare my interest in both. 1. I am half French and have family there. 2. My Husbands Niece is at School in Germany. In these Pandemic times it should clearly be a race to get all populations of the world vaccinated. Both leaders have behaved deplorably in this regard. I agree, it is a global pandemic that needs a global vaccine roll out, it shouldn’t be a race between countries Apparently its sound to compare ourselves to other countries when talking about the vaccine.. but completely inappropriate to do so with the rate...something about counting or density..I forget. 1. Where exactly is the 'comparing'. 2. Go start a thread on comparing if you like. I didn't start that in the OP. How many times do you really have to be told things that you say I said that actually I didn't say? Yep no one has ever once ever favourably compared our roll out to the eu. And that has NOTHING to do with what I posted in the OP. If you want to say something about comparing go do it. It's NOT what I posted in this OP. You realise not every post I make is about you? Then don't say in any of my posts something that I didn't say. Otherwise I'll assume you are" I didnt I was replying to fab which was why I quoted his last comment. | |||
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"i cant see anywhere in this thread that is comparing apart from the price so have to agree with you op . " | |||
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" I didnt I was replying to fab which was why I quoted his last comment." Then learn how to use the quote / unquote to make your replies clearer. Otherwise I will assume where I am quoted within your reply that I am. It's incredibly simple to do. | |||
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"Could it be that Germany wants to sell their more expensive vaccine and can only do it by saying the cheaper vaccine that more can afford is dodgy? Germany dont ‘own ‘ a vaccine just like the UK don’t ‘own’ a vaccine who said they do but BioNTech is a german company more profit more tax blimey do you need everything explained?
More tax? Are you sure tax is paid on the vaccines?
Tax is paid on company profits ffs.
The vaccine is non profit ffs"The vaccine may be non profit but as shares go up in value company makes money. | |||
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"Could it be that Germany wants to sell their more expensive vaccine and can only do it by saying the cheaper vaccine that more can afford is dodgy? Germany dont ‘own ‘ a vaccine just like the UK don’t ‘own’ a vaccine who said they do but BioNTech is a german company more profit more tax blimey do you need everything explained?
More tax? Are you sure tax is paid on the vaccines?
Tax is paid on company profits ffs.
The vaccine is non profit ffs
The vaccine may be non profit but as shares go up in value company makes money."That is true, ultimately all the pharma companies will make a profit from the vaccine | |||
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"Could it be that Germany wants to sell their more expensive vaccine and can only do it by saying the cheaper vaccine that more can afford is dodgy? Germany dont ‘own ‘ a vaccine just like the UK don’t ‘own’ a vaccine who said they do but BioNTech is a german company more profit more tax blimey do you need everything explained?
More tax? Are you sure tax is paid on the vaccines?
Tax is paid on company profits ffs.
The vaccine is non profit ffs
The vaccine may be non profit but as shares go up in value company makes money.
That is true, ultimately all the pharma companies will make a profit from the vaccine "we got there in the end then . | |||
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"Could it be that Germany wants to sell their more expensive vaccine and can only do it by saying the cheaper vaccine that more can afford is dodgy? Germany dont ‘own ‘ a vaccine just like the UK don’t ‘own’ a vaccine who said they do but BioNTech is a german company more profit more tax blimey do you need everything explained?
More tax? Are you sure tax is paid on the vaccines?
Tax is paid on company profits ffs.
The vaccine is non profit ffs
The vaccine may be non profit but as shares go up in value company makes money.
That is true, ultimately all the pharma companies will make a profit from the vaccine we got there in the end then . "‘Ultimately’ ‘all’ pharma companies will make a profit | |||
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"Could it be that Germany wants to sell their more expensive vaccine and can only do it by saying the cheaper vaccine that more can afford is dodgy? Germany dont ‘own ‘ a vaccine just like the UK don’t ‘own’ a vaccine who said they do but BioNTech is a german company more profit more tax blimey do you need everything explained?
More tax? Are you sure tax is paid on the vaccines?
Tax is paid on company profits ffs.
The vaccine is non profit ffs
The vaccine may be non profit but as shares go up in value company makes money.
That is true, ultimately all the pharma companies will make a profit from the vaccine we got there in the end then . ""The road is looooong, from which there is no return  " | |||
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"Could it be that Germany wants to sell their more expensive vaccine and can only do it by saying the cheaper vaccine that more can afford is dodgy? Germany dont ‘own ‘ a vaccine just like the UK don’t ‘own’ a vaccine who said they do but BioNTech is a german company more profit more tax blimey do you need everything explained?
More tax? Are you sure tax is paid on the vaccines?
Tax is paid on company profits ffs.
The vaccine is non profit ffs
The vaccine may be non profit but as shares go up in value company makes money.
That is true, ultimately all the pharma companies will make a profit from the vaccine we got there in the end then .
"The road is looooong, from which there is no return ""All & ultimately  | |||
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"Ah so is there the comment from the other thread came from. It all makes sense now. Anyway when’s Macron up for the boot? I think he’s circling the drain " He knows he is that's why he has resisted another lockdown despite rising hospital numbers. Another lockdown will probably finish his chances next year. | |||
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