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"Waiting to see how the regulars try to spin this... should be and interesting read... I’ll be waiting with popcorn............" (Passes Fabio a tinnie) | |||
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"Is it worth having a discussion on this, with reasonable points of information that may be of interest? " This. https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/nationalaccounts/balanceofpayments/bulletins/uktrade/january2021 | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out." So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone? | |||
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"Is it worth having a discussion on this, with reasonable points of information that may be of interest? This. https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/nationalaccounts/balanceofpayments/bulletins/uktrade/january2021" Exactly  | |||
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"Is it worth having a discussion on this, with reasonable points of information that may be of interest? " Okay.... ONS figures Exports uk to Eu down £5.6 Billion... or 40.7% Exports of food and live animals down 63.6%... just as well Chris is eating all those extra lobster UK GDP shrink by 2.9% | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone?" Who'd have thought it? | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out." Down 28%....... so please remind me of the brexit benefits of global Britain again | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone?" Is it all down to brexit or could it be that all major economies have restrictions at the moment? As time goes on i expect trade with the eu to diminish as the uk begins to open up new markets but that is not going to happen overnight with the state of the world at the moment. | |||
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"Is it worth having a discussion on this, with reasonable points of information that may be of interest? Okay.... ONS figures Exports uk to Eu down £5.6 Billion... or 40.7% Exports of food and live animals down 63.6%... just as well Chris is eating all those extra lobster UK GDP shrink by 2.9%" Do you think it is worth mentioning the caveat placed on this release by the ONS? “Trade has not been typical in recent months and, because of temporary factors outlined in Section 3, we would encourage users to apply caution when making sort-term comparisons of trade movements” | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone? Is it all down to brexit or could it be that all major economies have restrictions at the moment? As time goes on i expect trade with the eu to diminish as the uk begins to open up new markets but that is not going to happen overnight with the state of the world at the moment." I sure hope so. The point here is, all economic models that pointed to the drop in trade were written off as "project fear" by those who sought to promote brexit. Hopefully, as a nation, there is something to learn from all this. | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone? Is it all down to brexit or could it be that all major economies have restrictions at the moment? As time goes on i expect trade with the eu to diminish as the uk begins to open up new markets but that is not going to happen overnight with the state of the world at the moment." So you are saying it might have been wise to extend the transition period... which is what a lot of people were suggesting but brexiteers were too stubborn to do... I mean it’s not like we were in the middle of a global pandemic and they still would not budge | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone? Is it all down to brexit or could it be that all major economies have restrictions at the moment? As time goes on i expect trade with the eu to diminish as the uk begins to open up new markets but that is not going to happen overnight with the state of the world at the moment. So you are saying it might have been wise to extend the transition period... which is what a lot of people were suggesting but brexiteers were too stubborn to do... I mean it’s not like we were in the middle of a global pandemic and they still would not budge " No what im saying is how much difference has it made can you give me a breakdown of covid effects v brexit effects? | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone? Is it all down to brexit or could it be that all major economies have restrictions at the moment? As time goes on i expect trade with the eu to diminish as the uk begins to open up new markets but that is not going to happen overnight with the state of the world at the moment. So you are saying it might have been wise to extend the transition period... which is what a lot of people were suggesting but brexiteers were too stubborn to do... I mean it’s not like we were in the middle of a global pandemic and they still would not budge " The fact that the issue wasnt even serously considered is evidence of the mentality of people who wanted brexit through at any cost. | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone? Is it all down to brexit or could it be that all major economies have restrictions at the moment? As time goes on i expect trade with the eu to diminish as the uk begins to open up new markets but that is not going to happen overnight with the state of the world at the moment. So you are saying it might have been wise to extend the transition period... which is what a lot of people were suggesting but brexiteers were too stubborn to do... I mean it’s not like we were in the middle of a global pandemic and they still would not budge " You know as well as i do if we had extended we would have been made to pay more, could not agree our own trade deals with other countries and would probably have not been possible anyway as the eu needed to agree their new 7 year budget.Another way of remainers trying to kick the can futher down the road in desperation. | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone? Is it all down to brexit or could it be that all major economies have restrictions at the moment? As time goes on i expect trade with the eu to diminish as the uk begins to open up new markets but that is not going to happen overnight with the state of the world at the moment. So you are saying it might have been wise to extend the transition period... which is what a lot of people were suggesting but brexiteers were too stubborn to do... I mean it’s not like we were in the middle of a global pandemic and they still would not budge You know as well as i do if we had extended we would have been made to pay more, could not agree our own trade deals with other countries and would probably have not been possible anyway as the eu needed to agree their new 7 year budget.Another way of remainers trying to kick the can futher down the road in desperation." In desperation to try to minimise the damage of brexit. | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone? Is it all down to brexit or could it be that all major economies have restrictions at the moment? As time goes on i expect trade with the eu to diminish as the uk begins to open up new markets but that is not going to happen overnight with the state of the world at the moment. So you are saying it might have been wise to extend the transition period... which is what a lot of people were suggesting but brexiteers were too stubborn to do... I mean it’s not like we were in the middle of a global pandemic and they still would not budge You know as well as i do if we had extended we would have been made to pay more, could not agree our own trade deals with other countries and would probably have not been possible anyway as the eu needed to agree their new 7 year budget.Another way of remainers trying to kick the can futher down the road in desperation. In desperation to try to minimise the damage of brexit. " no in desperation to thwart the will of the people.  | |||
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"It's a reflection purely of a weaker Brussels economy, trade is a two way thing. If Brussels can sort itself out then trade can go up again, meanwhile we should focus on the rest of the world "Fantasy forum second on the left | |||
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"It's a reflection purely of a weaker Brussels economy, trade is a two way thing. If Brussels can sort itself out then trade can go up again, meanwhile we should focus on the rest of the world "So how many lobsters does one need to eat to make up for the Food deficit... just asking “for a friend”........  | |||
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"It's a reflection purely of a weaker Brussels economy, trade is a two way thing. If Brussels can sort itself out then trade can go up again, meanwhile we should focus on the rest of the world "But these figures show that a rise in trade with the rest of the world isn’t going to balance out what you are going to lose in trade with the eu... Heaven forbid... I wouldn’t want the empire to shrink now..... | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone?" | |||
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"It's a reflection purely of a weaker Brussels economy, trade is a two way thing. If Brussels can sort itself out then trade can go up again, meanwhile we should focus on the rest of the world
But these figures show that a rise in trade with the rest of the world isn’t going to balance out what you are going to lose in trade with the eu...
Heaven forbid... I wouldn’t want the empire to shrink now....."So you are basing your rise of world trade on one month? unbelievable, i ask you again what is the breakdown of lose of trade due to brexit v the pandemic? | |||
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"It's a reflection purely of a weaker Brussels economy, trade is a two way thing. If Brussels can sort itself out then trade can go up again, meanwhile we should focus on the rest of the world
But these figures show that a rise in trade with the rest of the world isn’t going to balance out what you are going to lose in trade with the eu...
Heaven forbid... I wouldn’t want the empire to shrink now....."My trade with the rest of the world has never been better, and its with 7 billion people versus 600 million on a continent that has hobbled itself through petty nationalism. | |||
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"It's a reflection purely of a weaker Brussels economy, trade is a two way thing. If Brussels can sort itself out then trade can go up again, meanwhile we should focus on the rest of the world
But these figures show that a rise in trade with the rest of the world isn’t going to balance out what you are going to lose in trade with the eu...
Heaven forbid... I wouldn’t want the empire to shrink now.....
My trade with the rest of the world has never been better, and its with 7 billion people versus 600 million on a continent that has hobbled itself through petty nationalism. "What has specifically changed to allow you to sell more outside the EU now? | |||
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"And so the debacle goes on. Gove trying to blame business today . Remember I forecast that he would blame business last year!! The retail consortium very clear in their claim that customs and IT are not ready. This respected organisation’s director or food stated “It would be foolhardy not to delay checks. He added “ this delay has come in the nick of time given that many border posts are little more than a hole in the ground” He also mentioned the lack of any usable IT. Remember me saying that?? He urged the government to use the next six months to establish and communicate the new systems with business. What can he mean as Gove said the government was ready last December? Remember those of you telling me I was incompetent and was making it up!! We could have delayed a year and not signed to the EU budget . A years contribution would have been very much less cost than this shit show has been to U.K. business. What’s really crap is I was hoping I was wrong and it would work out quickly but sadly the reality is clearly out there for all to see. The government lied over and over again. Quotes from the BBC " Said in another thread the gmnt take responsibility for absolutely nothing. | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone? Is it all down to brexit or could it be that all major economies have restrictions at the moment? As time goes on i expect trade with the eu to diminish as the uk begins to open up new markets but that is not going to happen overnight with the state of the world at the moment. So you are saying it might have been wise to extend the transition period... which is what a lot of people were suggesting but brexiteers were too stubborn to do... I mean it’s not like we were in the middle of a global pandemic and they still would not budge You know as well as i do if we had extended we would have been made to pay more, could not agree our own trade deals with other countries and would probably have not been possible anyway as the eu needed to agree their new 7 year budget.Another way of remainers trying to kick the can futher down the road in desperation. In desperation to try to minimise the damage of brexit. no in desperation to thwart the will of the people. "Is delaying "thwarting". Besides, it was the will of a people lied to for decades, culminating in illegally funded leave campaigns. Seems odd that you're comfortable with important decisions being made based on misinformation. | |||
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"It's a reflection purely of a weaker Brussels economy, trade is a two way thing. If Brussels can sort itself out then trade can go up again, meanwhile we should focus on the rest of the world
But these figures show that a rise in trade with the rest of the world isn’t going to balance out what you are going to lose in trade with the eu...
Heaven forbid... I wouldn’t want the empire to shrink now.....
My trade with the rest of the world has never been better, and its with 7 billion people versus 600 million on a continent that has hobbled itself through petty nationalism.
What has specifically changed to allow you to sell more outside the EU now?"We shine brighter on the world stage, our soft power influence is reaching new peaks, particularly past colonials are clearly implying to me that they have a new found respect and love for this Sceptered Isle, that we gave two fingers to Delors and his cabal, that we are seen as renewed and invigorated. We are loved and respected around the world, isn't that fantastic? | |||
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"It's a reflection purely of a weaker Brussels economy, trade is a two way thing. If Brussels can sort itself out then trade can go up again, meanwhile we should focus on the rest of the world
But these figures show that a rise in trade with the rest of the world isn’t going to balance out what you are going to lose in trade with the eu...
Heaven forbid... I wouldn’t want the empire to shrink now.....
My trade with the rest of the world has never been better, and its with 7 billion people versus 600 million on a continent that has hobbled itself through petty nationalism.
What has specifically changed to allow you to sell more outside the EU now?
We shine brighter on the world stage, our soft power influence is reaching new peaks, particularly past colonials are clearly implying to me that they have a new found respect and love for this Sceptered Isle, that we gave two fingers to Delors and his cabal, that we are seen as renewed and invigorated.
We are loved and respected around the world, isn't that fantastic? "mostly wrong, much of it laughable | |||
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"It's a reflection purely of a weaker Brussels economy, trade is a two way thing. If Brussels can sort itself out then trade can go up again, meanwhile we should focus on the rest of the world
But these figures show that a rise in trade with the rest of the world isn’t going to balance out what you are going to lose in trade with the eu...
Heaven forbid... I wouldn’t want the empire to shrink now.....
My trade with the rest of the world has never been better, and its with 7 billion people versus 600 million on a continent that has hobbled itself through petty nationalism.
What has specifically changed to allow you to sell more outside the EU now?
We shine brighter on the world stage, our soft power influence is reaching new peaks, particularly past colonials are clearly implying to me that they have a new found respect and love for this Sceptered Isle, that we gave two fingers to Delors and his cabal, that we are seen as renewed and invigorated.
We are loved and respected around the world, isn't that fantastic? "Utterly detached from reality. | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone? Is it all down to brexit or could it be that all major economies have restrictions at the moment? As time goes on i expect trade with the eu to diminish as the uk begins to open up new markets but that is not going to happen overnight with the state of the world at the moment. So you are saying it might have been wise to extend the transition period... which is what a lot of people were suggesting but brexiteers were too stubborn to do... I mean it’s not like we were in the middle of a global pandemic and they still would not budge You know as well as i do if we had extended we would have been made to pay more, could not agree our own trade deals with other countries and would probably have not been possible anyway as the eu needed to agree their new 7 year budget.Another way of remainers trying to kick the can futher down the road in desperation. In desperation to try to minimise the damage of brexit. no in desperation to thwart the will of the people.
Is delaying "thwarting".
Besides, it was the will of a people lied to for decades, culminating in illegally funded leave campaigns.
Seems odd that you're comfortable with important decisions being made based on misinformation."You know as well as me the whole remain mantra was to delay ,delay ,delay in the hope it would go away. Illegally funded campaigns mis information? i know why i voted and didnt need any of those to see how the whole system was designed for an good old jolly up and to enhance failed politicians perception of superiority and line their pockets. You may have fell for the greatest con in history but seems most of us didnt. | |||
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"It's a reflection purely of a weaker Brussels economy, trade is a two way thing. If Brussels can sort itself out then trade can go up again, meanwhile we should focus on the rest of the world
But these figures show that a rise in trade with the rest of the world isn’t going to balance out what you are going to lose in trade with the eu...
Heaven forbid... I wouldn’t want the empire to shrink now.....So you are basing your rise of world trade on one month? unbelievable, i ask you again what is the breakdown of lose of trade due to brexit v the pandemic?" | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone? Is it all down to brexit or could it be that all major economies have restrictions at the moment? As time goes on i expect trade with the eu to diminish as the uk begins to open up new markets but that is not going to happen overnight with the state of the world at the moment. So you are saying it might have been wise to extend the transition period... which is what a lot of people were suggesting but brexiteers were too stubborn to do... I mean it’s not like we were in the middle of a global pandemic and they still would not budge You know as well as i do if we had extended we would have been made to pay more, could not agree our own trade deals with other countries and would probably have not been possible anyway as the eu needed to agree their new 7 year budget.Another way of remainers trying to kick the can futher down the road in desperation. In desperation to try to minimise the damage of brexit. no in desperation to thwart the will of the people.
Is delaying "thwarting".
Besides, it was the will of a people lied to for decades, culminating in illegally funded leave campaigns.
Seems odd that you're comfortable with important decisions being made based on misinformation.You know as well as me the whole remain mantra was to delay ,delay ,delay in the hope it would go away.
Illegally funded campaigns mis information? i know why i voted and didnt need any of those to see how the whole system was designed for an good old jolly up and to enhance failed politicians perception of superiority and line their pockets. You may have fell for the greatest con in history but seems most of us didnt."So the massive hit to the economy, the job losses, extra red tape, businesses suffering, businesses up and moving to the EU. Is all worth it so you can feel like you're not contributing to the EU. That's fine, but the issue is, the whole country (aside from the richest 0.2%) is suffering. Not just you and other leavers. | |||
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"It's a reflection purely of a weaker Brussels economy, trade is a two way thing. If Brussels can sort itself out then trade can go up again, meanwhile we should focus on the rest of the world
But these figures show that a rise in trade with the rest of the world isn’t going to balance out what you are going to lose in trade with the eu...
Heaven forbid... I wouldn’t want the empire to shrink now.....
My trade with the rest of the world has never been better, and its with 7 billion people versus 600 million on a continent that has hobbled itself through petty nationalism.
What has specifically changed to allow you to sell more outside the EU now?
We shine brighter on the world stage, our soft power influence is reaching new peaks, particularly past colonials are clearly implying to me that they have a new found respect and love for this Sceptered Isle, that we gave two fingers to Delors and his cabal, that we are seen as renewed and invigorated.
We are loved and respected around the world, isn't that fantastic? "Chris you should enter politics with your way of talking and saying absolutely nothing . The non answering of questions is sublime!! Well done my man!! | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone? Is it all down to brexit or could it be that all major economies have restrictions at the moment? As time goes on i expect trade with the eu to diminish as the uk begins to open up new markets but that is not going to happen overnight with the state of the world at the moment. So you are saying it might have been wise to extend the transition period... which is what a lot of people were suggesting but brexiteers were too stubborn to do... I mean it’s not like we were in the middle of a global pandemic and they still would not budge You know as well as i do if we had extended we would have been made to pay more, could not agree our own trade deals with other countries and would probably have not been possible anyway as the eu needed to agree their new 7 year budget.Another way of remainers trying to kick the can futher down the road in desperation. In desperation to try to minimise the damage of brexit. no in desperation to thwart the will of the people.
Is delaying "thwarting".
Besides, it was the will of a people lied to for decades, culminating in illegally funded leave campaigns.
Seems odd that you're comfortable with important decisions being made based on misinformation.You know as well as me the whole remain mantra was to delay ,delay ,delay in the hope it would go away.
Illegally funded campaigns mis information? i know why i voted and didnt need any of those to see how the whole system was designed for an good old jolly up and to enhance failed politicians perception of superiority and line their pockets. You may have fell for the greatest con in history but seems most of us didnt.
So the massive hit to the economy, the job losses, extra red tape, businesses suffering, businesses up and moving to the EU. Is all worth it so you can feel like you're not contributing to the EU.
That's fine, but the issue is, the whole country (aside from the richest 0.2%) is suffering. Not just you and other leavers. "How are you personally suffering from leaving ? if i didnt come on here or watch the news i wouldn't know we had left. What massive hit to the economy? have you a breakdown of brexit v covid ? because no one else seems to. | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone? Is it all down to brexit or could it be that all major economies have restrictions at the moment? As time goes on i expect trade with the eu to diminish as the uk begins to open up new markets but that is not going to happen overnight with the state of the world at the moment. So you are saying it might have been wise to extend the transition period... which is what a lot of people were suggesting but brexiteers were too stubborn to do... I mean it’s not like we were in the middle of a global pandemic and they still would not budge You know as well as i do if we had extended we would have been made to pay more, could not agree our own trade deals with other countries and would probably have not been possible anyway as the eu needed to agree their new 7 year budget.Another way of remainers trying to kick the can futher down the road in desperation. In desperation to try to minimise the damage of brexit. no in desperation to thwart the will of the people.
Is delaying "thwarting".
Besides, it was the will of a people lied to for decades, culminating in illegally funded leave campaigns.
Seems odd that you're comfortable with important decisions being made based on misinformation.You know as well as me the whole remain mantra was to delay ,delay ,delay in the hope it would go away.
Illegally funded campaigns mis information? i know why i voted and didnt need any of those to see how the whole system was designed for an good old jolly up and to enhance failed politicians perception of superiority and line their pockets. You may have fell for the greatest con in history but seems most of us didnt.
So the massive hit to the economy, the job losses, extra red tape, businesses suffering, businesses up and moving to the EU. Is all worth it so you can feel like you're not contributing to the EU.
That's fine, but the issue is, the whole country (aside from the richest 0.2%) is suffering. Not just you and other leavers. How are you personally suffering from leaving ? if i didnt come on here or watch the news i wouldn't know we had left.
What massive hit to the economy? have you a breakdown of brexit v covid ? because no one else seems to."ONS £271 billion costs of covid From the express dated September last year There is no definitive figure for the cost of Brexit so far. A report from Bloomberg Economics estimates that Brexit has set Britain back to the tune of £130 billion so far. What’s more, it further estimates that figure is likely to top £200 billion by the end of the year. Between 1973 and 2018, the UK’s net contribution to the EU was £216 billion in real terms, according to Full Fact. | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone? Is it all down to brexit or could it be that all major economies have restrictions at the moment? As time goes on i expect trade with the eu to diminish as the uk begins to open up new markets but that is not going to happen overnight with the state of the world at the moment. So you are saying it might have been wise to extend the transition period... which is what a lot of people were suggesting but brexiteers were too stubborn to do... I mean it’s not like we were in the middle of a global pandemic and they still would not budge You know as well as i do if we had extended we would have been made to pay more, could not agree our own trade deals with other countries and would probably have not been possible anyway as the eu needed to agree their new 7 year budget.Another way of remainers trying to kick the can futher down the road in desperation. In desperation to try to minimise the damage of brexit. no in desperation to thwart the will of the people.
Is delaying "thwarting".
Besides, it was the will of a people lied to for decades, culminating in illegally funded leave campaigns.
Seems odd that you're comfortable with important decisions being made based on misinformation.You know as well as me the whole remain mantra was to delay ,delay ,delay in the hope it would go away.
Illegally funded campaigns mis information? i know why i voted and didnt need any of those to see how the whole system was designed for an good old jolly up and to enhance failed politicians perception of superiority and line their pockets. You may have fell for the greatest con in history but seems most of us didnt.
So the massive hit to the economy, the job losses, extra red tape, businesses suffering, businesses up and moving to the EU. Is all worth it so you can feel like you're not contributing to the EU.
That's fine, but the issue is, the whole country (aside from the richest 0.2%) is suffering. Not just you and other leavers. How are you personally suffering from leaving ? if i didnt come on here or watch the news i wouldn't know we had left.
What massive hit to the economy? have you a breakdown of brexit v covid ? because no one else seems to."Firstly, as a whole, the country has taken a huge hit. So it's not just about "effecting me personally". I have empathy for people who've lost their jobs and who've seen their businesses go under. Secondly it has effected me personally through work and personal things. This thread is about some of the damage done. As one single example. If you are so obtuse that you refuse to believe how bad it is until you have be handed a comparrison between the damage done by brexit Vs the damage done by covid. Then I suspect that there is no information that you would accept. Those who dogmatically believe in brexit despite all the evidence appear to be too far gone to reason with. You may have seen no difference, then what was the point of causing all the problems? | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone? Is it all down to brexit or could it be that all major economies have restrictions at the moment? As time goes on i expect trade with the eu to diminish as the uk begins to open up new markets but that is not going to happen overnight with the state of the world at the moment. So you are saying it might have been wise to extend the transition period... which is what a lot of people were suggesting but brexiteers were too stubborn to do... I mean it’s not like we were in the middle of a global pandemic and they still would not budge You know as well as i do if we had extended we would have been made to pay more, could not agree our own trade deals with other countries and would probably have not been possible anyway as the eu needed to agree their new 7 year budget.Another way of remainers trying to kick the can futher down the road in desperation. In desperation to try to minimise the damage of brexit. no in desperation to thwart the will of the people.
Is delaying "thwarting".
Besides, it was the will of a people lied to for decades, culminating in illegally funded leave campaigns.
Seems odd that you're comfortable with important decisions being made based on misinformation.You know as well as me the whole remain mantra was to delay ,delay ,delay in the hope it would go away.
Illegally funded campaigns mis information? i know why i voted and didnt need any of those to see how the whole system was designed for an good old jolly up and to enhance failed politicians perception of superiority and line their pockets. You may have fell for the greatest con in history but seems most of us didnt.
So the massive hit to the economy, the job losses, extra red tape, businesses suffering, businesses up and moving to the EU. Is all worth it so you can feel like you're not contributing to the EU.
That's fine, but the issue is, the whole country (aside from the richest 0.2%) is suffering. Not just you and other leavers. How are you personally suffering from leaving ? if i didnt come on here or watch the news i wouldn't know we had left.
What massive hit to the economy? have you a breakdown of brexit v covid ? because no one else seems to.
ONS £271 billion costs of covid
From the express dated September last year
There is no definitive figure for the cost of Brexit so far.
A report from Bloomberg Economics estimates that Brexit has set Britain back to the tune of £130 billion so far.
What’s more, it further estimates that figure is likely to top £200 billion by the end of the year.
Between 1973 and 2018, the UK’s net contribution to the EU was £216 billion in real terms, according to Full Fact."You expect me to believe some estimate in the middle of a pandemic?  as i said i wasn't gullible enough to fall for the eu,s emperors new cloths con trick and i certainly wont believe anyone who thinks they can estimate the difference of brexit v covid at this stage.  . | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone? Is it all down to brexit or could it be that all major economies have restrictions at the moment? As time goes on i expect trade with the eu to diminish as the uk begins to open up new markets but that is not going to happen overnight with the state of the world at the moment. So you are saying it might have been wise to extend the transition period... which is what a lot of people were suggesting but brexiteers were too stubborn to do... I mean it’s not like we were in the middle of a global pandemic and they still would not budge You know as well as i do if we had extended we would have been made to pay more, could not agree our own trade deals with other countries and would probably have not been possible anyway as the eu needed to agree their new 7 year budget.Another way of remainers trying to kick the can futher down the road in desperation. In desperation to try to minimise the damage of brexit. no in desperation to thwart the will of the people.
Is delaying "thwarting".
Besides, it was the will of a people lied to for decades, culminating in illegally funded leave campaigns.
Seems odd that you're comfortable with important decisions being made based on misinformation.You know as well as me the whole remain mantra was to delay ,delay ,delay in the hope it would go away.
Illegally funded campaigns mis information? i know why i voted and didnt need any of those to see how the whole system was designed for an good old jolly up and to enhance failed politicians perception of superiority and line their pockets. You may have fell for the greatest con in history but seems most of us didnt.
So the massive hit to the economy, the job losses, extra red tape, businesses suffering, businesses up and moving to the EU. Is all worth it so you can feel like you're not contributing to the EU.
That's fine, but the issue is, the whole country (aside from the richest 0.2%) is suffering. Not just you and other leavers. How are you personally suffering from leaving ? if i didnt come on here or watch the news i wouldn't know we had left.
What massive hit to the economy? have you a breakdown of brexit v covid ? because no one else seems to.
ONS £271 billion costs of covid
From the express dated September last year
There is no definitive figure for the cost of Brexit so far.
A report from Bloomberg Economics estimates that Brexit has set Britain back to the tune of £130 billion so far.
What’s more, it further estimates that figure is likely to top £200 billion by the end of the year.
Between 1973 and 2018, the UK’s net contribution to the EU was £216 billion in real terms, according to Full Fact."Bloomberg lol debunked many times Michael Bloomberg the remainer. The Bloomberg estimate quoted by remainers on fab has bounced around from 40 to 200 billion. Think of a number, any old rubbish will do. I speak with Oxford Fellows about this sort of thing. | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone? Is it all down to brexit or could it be that all major economies have restrictions at the moment? As time goes on i expect trade with the eu to diminish as the uk begins to open up new markets but that is not going to happen overnight with the state of the world at the moment. So you are saying it might have been wise to extend the transition period... which is what a lot of people were suggesting but brexiteers were too stubborn to do... I mean it’s not like we were in the middle of a global pandemic and they still would not budge You know as well as i do if we had extended we would have been made to pay more, could not agree our own trade deals with other countries and would probably have not been possible anyway as the eu needed to agree their new 7 year budget.Another way of remainers trying to kick the can futher down the road in desperation. In desperation to try to minimise the damage of brexit. no in desperation to thwart the will of the people.
Is delaying "thwarting".
Besides, it was the will of a people lied to for decades, culminating in illegally funded leave campaigns.
Seems odd that you're comfortable with important decisions being made based on misinformation.You know as well as me the whole remain mantra was to delay ,delay ,delay in the hope it would go away.
Illegally funded campaigns mis information? i know why i voted and didnt need any of those to see how the whole system was designed for an good old jolly up and to enhance failed politicians perception of superiority and line their pockets. You may have fell for the greatest con in history but seems most of us didnt.
So the massive hit to the economy, the job losses, extra red tape, businesses suffering, businesses up and moving to the EU. Is all worth it so you can feel like you're not contributing to the EU.
That's fine, but the issue is, the whole country (aside from the richest 0.2%) is suffering. Not just you and other leavers. How are you personally suffering from leaving ? if i didnt come on here or watch the news i wouldn't know we had left.
What massive hit to the economy? have you a breakdown of brexit v covid ? because no one else seems to.
ONS £271 billion costs of covid
From the express dated September last year
There is no definitive figure for the cost of Brexit so far.
A report from Bloomberg Economics estimates that Brexit has set Britain back to the tune of £130 billion so far.
What’s more, it further estimates that figure is likely to top £200 billion by the end of the year.
Between 1973 and 2018, the UK’s net contribution to the EU was £216 billion in real terms, according to Full Fact.
Bloomberg lol debunked many times
Michael Bloomberg the remainer.
The Bloomberg estimate quoted by remainers on fab has bounced around from 40 to 200 billion.
Think of a number, any old rubbish will do.
I speak with Oxford Fellows about this sort of thing. "
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone? Is it all down to brexit or could it be that all major economies have restrictions at the moment? As time goes on i expect trade with the eu to diminish as the uk begins to open up new markets but that is not going to happen overnight with the state of the world at the moment. So you are saying it might have been wise to extend the transition period... which is what a lot of people were suggesting but brexiteers were too stubborn to do... I mean it’s not like we were in the middle of a global pandemic and they still would not budge You know as well as i do if we had extended we would have been made to pay more, could not agree our own trade deals with other countries and would probably have not been possible anyway as the eu needed to agree their new 7 year budget.Another way of remainers trying to kick the can futher down the road in desperation. In desperation to try to minimise the damage of brexit. no in desperation to thwart the will of the people.
Is delaying "thwarting".
Besides, it was the will of a people lied to for decades, culminating in illegally funded leave campaigns.
Seems odd that you're comfortable with important decisions being made based on misinformation.You know as well as me the whole remain mantra was to delay ,delay ,delay in the hope it would go away.
Illegally funded campaigns mis information? i know why i voted and didnt need any of those to see how the whole system was designed for an good old jolly up and to enhance failed politicians perception of superiority and line their pockets. You may have fell for the greatest con in history but seems most of us didnt.
So the massive hit to the economy, the job losses, extra red tape, businesses suffering, businesses up and moving to the EU. Is all worth it so you can feel like you're not contributing to the EU.
That's fine, but the issue is, the whole country (aside from the richest 0.2%) is suffering. Not just you and other leavers. How are you personally suffering from leaving ? if i didnt come on here or watch the news i wouldn't know we had left.
What massive hit to the economy? have you a breakdown of brexit v covid ? because no one else seems to.
ONS £271 billion costs of covid
From the express dated September last year
There is no definitive figure for the cost of Brexit so far.
A report from Bloomberg Economics estimates that Brexit has set Britain back to the tune of £130 billion so far.
What’s more, it further estimates that figure is likely to top £200 billion by the end of the year.
Between 1973 and 2018, the UK’s net contribution to the EU was £216 billion in real terms, according to Full Fact.You expect me to believe some estimate in the middle of a pandemic? as i said i wasn't gullible enough to fall for the eu,s emperors new cloths con trick and i certainly wont believe anyone who thinks they can estimate the difference of brexit v covid at this stage. ."I don't expect you to believe anything. You appear to think brexit is a good idea. I suppose the hope from all this brexit clusterfuck is that the population will become better equipped to resist propaganda and to understand how to analyse information. Sadly I don't see any evidence of progress in this field. | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone? Is it all down to brexit or could it be that all major economies have restrictions at the moment? As time goes on i expect trade with the eu to diminish as the uk begins to open up new markets but that is not going to happen overnight with the state of the world at the moment. So you are saying it might have been wise to extend the transition period... which is what a lot of people were suggesting but brexiteers were too stubborn to do... I mean it’s not like we were in the middle of a global pandemic and they still would not budge You know as well as i do if we had extended we would have been made to pay more, could not agree our own trade deals with other countries and would probably have not been possible anyway as the eu needed to agree their new 7 year budget.Another way of remainers trying to kick the can futher down the road in desperation. In desperation to try to minimise the damage of brexit. no in desperation to thwart the will of the people.
Is delaying "thwarting".
Besides, it was the will of a people lied to for decades, culminating in illegally funded leave campaigns.
Seems odd that you're comfortable with important decisions being made based on misinformation.You know as well as me the whole remain mantra was to delay ,delay ,delay in the hope it would go away.
Illegally funded campaigns mis information? i know why i voted and didnt need any of those to see how the whole system was designed for an good old jolly up and to enhance failed politicians perception of superiority and line their pockets. You may have fell for the greatest con in history but seems most of us didnt.
So the massive hit to the economy, the job losses, extra red tape, businesses suffering, businesses up and moving to the EU. Is all worth it so you can feel like you're not contributing to the EU.
That's fine, but the issue is, the whole country (aside from the richest 0.2%) is suffering. Not just you and other leavers. How are you personally suffering from leaving ? if i didnt come on here or watch the news i wouldn't know we had left.
What massive hit to the economy? have you a breakdown of brexit v covid ? because no one else seems to.
ONS £271 billion costs of covid
From the express dated September last year
There is no definitive figure for the cost of Brexit so far.
A report from Bloomberg Economics estimates that Brexit has set Britain back to the tune of £130 billion so far.
What’s more, it further estimates that figure is likely to top £200 billion by the end of the year.
Between 1973 and 2018, the UK’s net contribution to the EU was £216 billion in real terms, according to Full Fact.
Bloomberg lol debunked many times
Michael Bloomberg the remainer.
The Bloomberg estimate quoted by remainers on fab has bounced around from 40 to 200 billion.
Think of a number, any old rubbish will do.
I speak with Oxford Fellows about this sort of thing.
Lols "Super lols Academic types overwhelmingly voted to remain. https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/european-union-referendum-nine-out-of-ten-university-staff-back-remain So what's going on here. Could you be telling Porkie pies? | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone? Is it all down to brexit or could it be that all major economies have restrictions at the moment? As time goes on i expect trade with the eu to diminish as the uk begins to open up new markets but that is not going to happen overnight with the state of the world at the moment. So you are saying it might have been wise to extend the transition period... which is what a lot of people were suggesting but brexiteers were too stubborn to do... I mean it’s not like we were in the middle of a global pandemic and they still would not budge You know as well as i do if we had extended we would have been made to pay more, could not agree our own trade deals with other countries and would probably have not been possible anyway as the eu needed to agree their new 7 year budget.Another way of remainers trying to kick the can futher down the road in desperation. In desperation to try to minimise the damage of brexit. no in desperation to thwart the will of the people.
Is delaying "thwarting".
Besides, it was the will of a people lied to for decades, culminating in illegally funded leave campaigns.
Seems odd that you're comfortable with important decisions being made based on misinformation.You know as well as me the whole remain mantra was to delay ,delay ,delay in the hope it would go away.
Illegally funded campaigns mis information? i know why i voted and didnt need any of those to see how the whole system was designed for an good old jolly up and to enhance failed politicians perception of superiority and line their pockets. You may have fell for the greatest con in history but seems most of us didnt.
So the massive hit to the economy, the job losses, extra red tape, businesses suffering, businesses up and moving to the EU. Is all worth it so you can feel like you're not contributing to the EU.
That's fine, but the issue is, the whole country (aside from the richest 0.2%) is suffering. Not just you and other leavers. How are you personally suffering from leaving ? if i didnt come on here or watch the news i wouldn't know we had left.
What massive hit to the economy? have you a breakdown of brexit v covid ? because no one else seems to.
ONS £271 billion costs of covid
From the express dated September last year
There is no definitive figure for the cost of Brexit so far.
A report from Bloomberg Economics estimates that Brexit has set Britain back to the tune of £130 billion so far.
What’s more, it further estimates that figure is likely to top £200 billion by the end of the year.
Between 1973 and 2018, the UK’s net contribution to the EU was £216 billion in real terms, according to Full Fact.
Bloomberg lol debunked many times
Michael Bloomberg the remainer.
The Bloomberg estimate quoted by remainers on fab has bounced around from 40 to 200 billion.
Think of a number, any old rubbish will do.
I speak with Oxford Fellows about this sort of thing.
Lols
Super lols
Academic types overwhelmingly voted to remain.
https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/european-union-referendum-nine-out-of-ten-university-staff-back-remain
So what's going on here. Could you be telling Porkie pies?
"Ah I think we are getting towards the root of the politics Forum problem. Remainers believe "discussion" means bashing everyone else over the head and not listening to an opposing viewpoint. You were given two ears and one mouth. Remainers need to listen to the facts a bit more. Some of my professor interlocuters were remainers, some were leavers. That's fine. I don't impose my viewpoint on others with the religiously fanatical zeal remainers bash us with. | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone? Is it all down to brexit or could it be that all major economies have restrictions at the moment? As time goes on i expect trade with the eu to diminish as the uk begins to open up new markets but that is not going to happen overnight with the state of the world at the moment. So you are saying it might have been wise to extend the transition period... which is what a lot of people were suggesting but brexiteers were too stubborn to do... I mean it’s not like we were in the middle of a global pandemic and they still would not budge You know as well as i do if we had extended we would have been made to pay more, could not agree our own trade deals with other countries and would probably have not been possible anyway as the eu needed to agree their new 7 year budget.Another way of remainers trying to kick the can futher down the road in desperation. In desperation to try to minimise the damage of brexit. no in desperation to thwart the will of the people.
Is delaying "thwarting".
Besides, it was the will of a people lied to for decades, culminating in illegally funded leave campaigns.
Seems odd that you're comfortable with important decisions being made based on misinformation.You know as well as me the whole remain mantra was to delay ,delay ,delay in the hope it would go away.
Illegally funded campaigns mis information? i know why i voted and didnt need any of those to see how the whole system was designed for an good old jolly up and to enhance failed politicians perception of superiority and line their pockets. You may have fell for the greatest con in history but seems most of us didnt.
So the massive hit to the economy, the job losses, extra red tape, businesses suffering, businesses up and moving to the EU. Is all worth it so you can feel like you're not contributing to the EU.
That's fine, but the issue is, the whole country (aside from the richest 0.2%) is suffering. Not just you and other leavers. How are you personally suffering from leaving ? if i didnt come on here or watch the news i wouldn't know we had left.
What massive hit to the economy? have you a breakdown of brexit v covid ? because no one else seems to.
ONS £271 billion costs of covid
From the express dated September last year
There is no definitive figure for the cost of Brexit so far.
A report from Bloomberg Economics estimates that Brexit has set Britain back to the tune of £130 billion so far.
What’s more, it further estimates that figure is likely to top £200 billion by the end of the year.
Between 1973 and 2018, the UK’s net contribution to the EU was £216 billion in real terms, according to Full Fact.
Bloomberg lol debunked many times
Michael Bloomberg the remainer.
The Bloomberg estimate quoted by remainers on fab has bounced around from 40 to 200 billion.
Think of a number, any old rubbish will do.
I speak with Oxford Fellows about this sort of thing. "Check with full fact as Bloomberg’s number is being reached. You should maybe get your professors a subscription ! | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone? Is it all down to brexit or could it be that all major economies have restrictions at the moment? As time goes on i expect trade with the eu to diminish as the uk begins to open up new markets but that is not going to happen overnight with the state of the world at the moment. So you are saying it might have been wise to extend the transition period... which is what a lot of people were suggesting but brexiteers were too stubborn to do... I mean it’s not like we were in the middle of a global pandemic and they still would not budge You know as well as i do if we had extended we would have been made to pay more, could not agree our own trade deals with other countries and would probably have not been possible anyway as the eu needed to agree their new 7 year budget.Another way of remainers trying to kick the can futher down the road in desperation. In desperation to try to minimise the damage of brexit. no in desperation to thwart the will of the people.
Is delaying "thwarting".
Besides, it was the will of a people lied to for decades, culminating in illegally funded leave campaigns.
Seems odd that you're comfortable with important decisions being made based on misinformation.You know as well as me the whole remain mantra was to delay ,delay ,delay in the hope it would go away.
Illegally funded campaigns mis information? i know why i voted and didnt need any of those to see how the whole system was designed for an good old jolly up and to enhance failed politicians perception of superiority and line their pockets. You may have fell for the greatest con in history but seems most of us didnt.
So the massive hit to the economy, the job losses, extra red tape, businesses suffering, businesses up and moving to the EU. Is all worth it so you can feel like you're not contributing to the EU.
That's fine, but the issue is, the whole country (aside from the richest 0.2%) is suffering. Not just you and other leavers. How are you personally suffering from leaving ? if i didnt come on here or watch the news i wouldn't know we had left.
What massive hit to the economy? have you a breakdown of brexit v covid ? because no one else seems to.
Firstly, as a whole, the country has taken a huge hit. So it's not just about "effecting me personally". I have empathy for people who've lost their jobs and who've seen their businesses go under.
Secondly it has effected me personally through work and personal things.
This thread is about some of the damage done. As one single example. If you are so obtuse that you refuse to believe how bad it is until you have be handed a comparrison between the damage done by brexit Vs the damage done by covid. Then I suspect that there is no information that you would accept. Those who dogmatically believe in brexit despite all the evidence appear to be too far gone to reason with.
You may have seen no difference, then what was the point of causing all the problems?"sky mate I posted a thread yesterday about 75 million going to the humber and 20million to teespprt and thousands of jobs not you nor Fabio who is from the north east had a word to say so are yous just as far gone as leavers then ? | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone? Is it all down to brexit or could it be that all major economies have restrictions at the moment? As time goes on i expect trade with the eu to diminish as the uk begins to open up new markets but that is not going to happen overnight with the state of the world at the moment. So you are saying it might have been wise to extend the transition period... which is what a lot of people were suggesting but brexiteers were too stubborn to do... I mean it’s not like we were in the middle of a global pandemic and they still would not budge You know as well as i do if we had extended we would have been made to pay more, could not agree our own trade deals with other countries and would probably have not been possible anyway as the eu needed to agree their new 7 year budget.Another way of remainers trying to kick the can futher down the road in desperation. In desperation to try to minimise the damage of brexit. no in desperation to thwart the will of the people.
Is delaying "thwarting".
Besides, it was the will of a people lied to for decades, culminating in illegally funded leave campaigns.
Seems odd that you're comfortable with important decisions being made based on misinformation.You know as well as me the whole remain mantra was to delay ,delay ,delay in the hope it would go away.
Illegally funded campaigns mis information? i know why i voted and didnt need any of those to see how the whole system was designed for an good old jolly up and to enhance failed politicians perception of superiority and line their pockets. You may have fell for the greatest con in history but seems most of us didnt.
So the massive hit to the economy, the job losses, extra red tape, businesses suffering, businesses up and moving to the EU. Is all worth it so you can feel like you're not contributing to the EU.
That's fine, but the issue is, the whole country (aside from the richest 0.2%) is suffering. Not just you and other leavers. How are you personally suffering from leaving ? if i didnt come on here or watch the news i wouldn't know we had left.
What massive hit to the economy? have you a breakdown of brexit v covid ? because no one else seems to.
Firstly, as a whole, the country has taken a huge hit. So it's not just about "effecting me personally". I have empathy for people who've lost their jobs and who've seen their businesses go under.
Secondly it has effected me personally through work and personal things.
This thread is about some of the damage done. As one single example. If you are so obtuse that you refuse to believe how bad it is until you have be handed a comparrison between the damage done by brexit Vs the damage done by covid. Then I suspect that there is no information that you would accept. Those who dogmatically believe in brexit despite all the evidence appear to be too far gone to reason with.
You may have seen no difference, then what was the point of causing all the problems?sky mate I posted a thread yesterday about 75 million going to the humber and 20million to teespprt and thousands of jobs not you nor Fabio who is from the north east had a word to say so are yous just as far gone as leavers then ?"Was that related to brexit? Genuine question. I haven't read through that piece of news. | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone? Is it all down to brexit or could it be that all major economies have restrictions at the moment? As time goes on i expect trade with the eu to diminish as the uk begins to open up new markets but that is not going to happen overnight with the state of the world at the moment. So you are saying it might have been wise to extend the transition period... which is what a lot of people were suggesting but brexiteers were too stubborn to do... I mean it’s not like we were in the middle of a global pandemic and they still would not budge You know as well as i do if we had extended we would have been made to pay more, could not agree our own trade deals with other countries and would probably have not been possible anyway as the eu needed to agree their new 7 year budget.Another way of remainers trying to kick the can futher down the road in desperation. In desperation to try to minimise the damage of brexit. no in desperation to thwart the will of the people.
Is delaying "thwarting".
Besides, it was the will of a people lied to for decades, culminating in illegally funded leave campaigns.
Seems odd that you're comfortable with important decisions being made based on misinformation.You know as well as me the whole remain mantra was to delay ,delay ,delay in the hope it would go away.
Illegally funded campaigns mis information? i know why i voted and didnt need any of those to see how the whole system was designed for an good old jolly up and to enhance failed politicians perception of superiority and line their pockets. You may have fell for the greatest con in history but seems most of us didnt.
So the massive hit to the economy, the job losses, extra red tape, businesses suffering, businesses up and moving to the EU. Is all worth it so you can feel like you're not contributing to the EU.
That's fine, but the issue is, the whole country (aside from the richest 0.2%) is suffering. Not just you and other leavers. How are you personally suffering from leaving ? if i didnt come on here or watch the news i wouldn't know we had left.
What massive hit to the economy? have you a breakdown of brexit v covid ? because no one else seems to.
ONS £271 billion costs of covid
From the express dated September last year
There is no definitive figure for the cost of Brexit so far.
A report from Bloomberg Economics estimates that Brexit has set Britain back to the tune of £130 billion so far.
What’s more, it further estimates that figure is likely to top £200 billion by the end of the year.
Between 1973 and 2018, the UK’s net contribution to the EU was £216 billion in real terms, according to Full Fact.
Bloomberg lol debunked many times
Michael Bloomberg the remainer.
The Bloomberg estimate quoted by remainers on fab has bounced around from 40 to 200 billion.
Think of a number, any old rubbish will do.
I speak with Oxford Fellows about this sort of thing.
Lols
Super lols
Academic types overwhelmingly voted to remain.
https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/european-union-referendum-nine-out-of-ten-university-staff-back-remain
So what's going on here. Could you be telling Porkie pies?
Ah I think we are getting towards the root of the politics Forum problem.
Remainers believe "discussion" means bashing everyone else over the head and not listening to an opposing viewpoint.
You were given two ears and one mouth. Remainers need to listen to the facts a bit more.
Some of my professor interlocuters were remainers, some were leavers.
That's fine. I don't impose my viewpoint on others with the religiously fanatical zeal remainers bash us with. "Mega lolz. | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone? Is it all down to brexit or could it be that all major economies have restrictions at the moment? As time goes on i expect trade with the eu to diminish as the uk begins to open up new markets but that is not going to happen overnight with the state of the world at the moment. So you are saying it might have been wise to extend the transition period... which is what a lot of people were suggesting but brexiteers were too stubborn to do... I mean it’s not like we were in the middle of a global pandemic and they still would not budge You know as well as i do if we had extended we would have been made to pay more, could not agree our own trade deals with other countries and would probably have not been possible anyway as the eu needed to agree their new 7 year budget.Another way of remainers trying to kick the can futher down the road in desperation. In desperation to try to minimise the damage of brexit. no in desperation to thwart the will of the people.
Is delaying "thwarting".
Besides, it was the will of a people lied to for decades, culminating in illegally funded leave campaigns.
Seems odd that you're comfortable with important decisions being made based on misinformation.You know as well as me the whole remain mantra was to delay ,delay ,delay in the hope it would go away.
Illegally funded campaigns mis information? i know why i voted and didnt need any of those to see how the whole system was designed for an good old jolly up and to enhance failed politicians perception of superiority and line their pockets. You may have fell for the greatest con in history but seems most of us didnt.
So the massive hit to the economy, the job losses, extra red tape, businesses suffering, businesses up and moving to the EU. Is all worth it so you can feel like you're not contributing to the EU.
That's fine, but the issue is, the whole country (aside from the richest 0.2%) is suffering. Not just you and other leavers. How are you personally suffering from leaving ? if i didnt come on here or watch the news i wouldn't know we had left.
What massive hit to the economy? have you a breakdown of brexit v covid ? because no one else seems to.
Firstly, as a whole, the country has taken a huge hit. So it's not just about "effecting me personally". I have empathy for people who've lost their jobs and who've seen their businesses go under.
Secondly it has effected me personally through work and personal things.
This thread is about some of the damage done. As one single example. If you are so obtuse that you refuse to believe how bad it is until you have be handed a comparrison between the damage done by brexit Vs the damage done by covid. Then I suspect that there is no information that you would accept. Those who dogmatically believe in brexit despite all the evidence appear to be too far gone to reason with.
You may have seen no difference, then what was the point of causing all the problems?sky mate I posted a thread yesterday about 75 million going to the humber and 20million to teespprt and thousands of jobs not you nor Fabio who is from the north east had a word to say so are yous just as far gone as leavers then ?
Was that related to brexit?
Genuine question. I haven't read through that piece of news."no it’s related to your post about job loses mate howay it’s a bit weird how you constantly talk about job loses then some good news about jobs and then nothing from ya so arnt you to far gone like leavers ? | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone? Is it all down to brexit or could it be that all major economies have restrictions at the moment? As time goes on i expect trade with the eu to diminish as the uk begins to open up new markets but that is not going to happen overnight with the state of the world at the moment. So you are saying it might have been wise to extend the transition period... which is what a lot of people were suggesting but brexiteers were too stubborn to do... I mean it’s not like we were in the middle of a global pandemic and they still would not budge You know as well as i do if we had extended we would have been made to pay more, could not agree our own trade deals with other countries and would probably have not been possible anyway as the eu needed to agree their new 7 year budget.Another way of remainers trying to kick the can futher down the road in desperation. In desperation to try to minimise the damage of brexit. no in desperation to thwart the will of the people.
Is delaying "thwarting".
Besides, it was the will of a people lied to for decades, culminating in illegally funded leave campaigns.
Seems odd that you're comfortable with important decisions being made based on misinformation.You know as well as me the whole remain mantra was to delay ,delay ,delay in the hope it would go away.
Illegally funded campaigns mis information? i know why i voted and didnt need any of those to see how the whole system was designed for an good old jolly up and to enhance failed politicians perception of superiority and line their pockets. You may have fell for the greatest con in history but seems most of us didnt.
So the massive hit to the economy, the job losses, extra red tape, businesses suffering, businesses up and moving to the EU. Is all worth it so you can feel like you're not contributing to the EU.
That's fine, but the issue is, the whole country (aside from the richest 0.2%) is suffering. Not just you and other leavers. How are you personally suffering from leaving ? if i didnt come on here or watch the news i wouldn't know we had left.
What massive hit to the economy? have you a breakdown of brexit v covid ? because no one else seems to.
ONS £271 billion costs of covid
From the express dated September last year
There is no definitive figure for the cost of Brexit so far.
A report from Bloomberg Economics estimates that Brexit has set Britain back to the tune of £130 billion so far.
What’s more, it further estimates that figure is likely to top £200 billion by the end of the year.
Between 1973 and 2018, the UK’s net contribution to the EU was £216 billion in real terms, according to Full Fact.
Bloomberg lol debunked many times
Michael Bloomberg the remainer.
The Bloomberg estimate quoted by remainers on fab has bounced around from 40 to 200 billion.
Think of a number, any old rubbish will do.
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone? Is it all down to brexit or could it be that all major economies have restrictions at the moment? As time goes on i expect trade with the eu to diminish as the uk begins to open up new markets but that is not going to happen overnight with the state of the world at the moment. So you are saying it might have been wise to extend the transition period... which is what a lot of people were suggesting but brexiteers were too stubborn to do... I mean it’s not like we were in the middle of a global pandemic and they still would not budge You know as well as i do if we had extended we would have been made to pay more, could not agree our own trade deals with other countries and would probably have not been possible anyway as the eu needed to agree their new 7 year budget.Another way of remainers trying to kick the can futher down the road in desperation. In desperation to try to minimise the damage of brexit. no in desperation to thwart the will of the people.
Is delaying "thwarting".
Besides, it was the will of a people lied to for decades, culminating in illegally funded leave campaigns.
Seems odd that you're comfortable with important decisions being made based on misinformation.You know as well as me the whole remain mantra was to delay ,delay ,delay in the hope it would go away.
Illegally funded campaigns mis information? i know why i voted and didnt need any of those to see how the whole system was designed for an good old jolly up and to enhance failed politicians perception of superiority and line their pockets. You may have fell for the greatest con in history but seems most of us didnt.
So the massive hit to the economy, the job losses, extra red tape, businesses suffering, businesses up and moving to the EU. Is all worth it so you can feel like you're not contributing to the EU.
That's fine, but the issue is, the whole country (aside from the richest 0.2%) is suffering. Not just you and other leavers. How are you personally suffering from leaving ? if i didnt come on here or watch the news i wouldn't know we had left.
What massive hit to the economy? have you a breakdown of brexit v covid ? because no one else seems to.
ONS £271 billion costs of covid
From the express dated September last year
There is no definitive figure for the cost of Brexit so far.
A report from Bloomberg Economics estimates that Brexit has set Britain back to the tune of £130 billion so far.
What’s more, it further estimates that figure is likely to top £200 billion by the end of the year.
Between 1973 and 2018, the UK’s net contribution to the EU was £216 billion in real terms, according to Full Fact.
Bloomberg lol debunked many times
Michael Bloomberg the remainer.
The Bloomberg estimate quoted by remainers on fab has bounced around from 40 to 200 billion.
Think of a number, any old rubbish will do.
I speak with Oxford Fellows about this sort of thing.
What do you say to them
"Do you want fries with that?"
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone? Is it all down to brexit or could it be that all major economies have restrictions at the moment? As time goes on i expect trade with the eu to diminish as the uk begins to open up new markets but that is not going to happen overnight with the state of the world at the moment. So you are saying it might have been wise to extend the transition period... which is what a lot of people were suggesting but brexiteers were too stubborn to do... I mean it’s not like we were in the middle of a global pandemic and they still would not budge You know as well as i do if we had extended we would have been made to pay more, could not agree our own trade deals with other countries and would probably have not been possible anyway as the eu needed to agree their new 7 year budget.Another way of remainers trying to kick the can futher down the road in desperation. In desperation to try to minimise the damage of brexit. no in desperation to thwart the will of the people.
Is delaying "thwarting".
Besides, it was the will of a people lied to for decades, culminating in illegally funded leave campaigns.
Seems odd that you're comfortable with important decisions being made based on misinformation.You know as well as me the whole remain mantra was to delay ,delay ,delay in the hope it would go away.
Illegally funded campaigns mis information? i know why i voted and didnt need any of those to see how the whole system was designed for an good old jolly up and to enhance failed politicians perception of superiority and line their pockets. You may have fell for the greatest con in history but seems most of us didnt.
So the massive hit to the economy, the job losses, extra red tape, businesses suffering, businesses up and moving to the EU. Is all worth it so you can feel like you're not contributing to the EU.
That's fine, but the issue is, the whole country (aside from the richest 0.2%) is suffering. Not just you and other leavers. How are you personally suffering from leaving ? if i didnt come on here or watch the news i wouldn't know we had left.
What massive hit to the economy? have you a breakdown of brexit v covid ? because no one else seems to.
Firstly, as a whole, the country has taken a huge hit. So it's not just about "effecting me personally". I have empathy for people who've lost their jobs and who've seen their businesses go under.
Secondly it has effected me personally through work and personal things.
This thread is about some of the damage done. As one single example. If you are so obtuse that you refuse to believe how bad it is until you have be handed a comparrison between the damage done by brexit Vs the damage done by covid. Then I suspect that there is no information that you would accept. Those who dogmatically believe in brexit despite all the evidence appear to be too far gone to reason with.
You may have seen no difference, then what was the point of causing all the problems?sky mate I posted a thread yesterday about 75 million going to the humber and 20million to teespprt and thousands of jobs not you nor Fabio who is from the north east had a word to say so are yous just as far gone as leavers then ?
Was that related to brexit?
Genuine question. I haven't read through that piece of news.no it’s related to your post about job loses mate howay it’s a bit weird how you constantly talk about job loses then some good news about jobs and then nothing from ya so arnt you to far gone like leavers ?"We specifically talk about brexit related job losses. New jobs being created is great. But would be even better if it was new jobs being created, without the brexit job losses. The too far gone, was aimed at leavers who just refuse to look at the problems caused by brexit, don't care about all the people this has impacted if they haven't noticed any difference for themselves. | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone? Is it all down to brexit or could it be that all major economies have restrictions at the moment? As time goes on i expect trade with the eu to diminish as the uk begins to open up new markets but that is not going to happen overnight with the state of the world at the moment. So you are saying it might have been wise to extend the transition period... which is what a lot of people were suggesting but brexiteers were too stubborn to do... I mean it’s not like we were in the middle of a global pandemic and they still would not budge You know as well as i do if we had extended we would have been made to pay more, could not agree our own trade deals with other countries and would probably have not been possible anyway as the eu needed to agree their new 7 year budget.Another way of remainers trying to kick the can futher down the road in desperation. In desperation to try to minimise the damage of brexit. no in desperation to thwart the will of the people.
Is delaying "thwarting".
Besides, it was the will of a people lied to for decades, culminating in illegally funded leave campaigns.
Seems odd that you're comfortable with important decisions being made based on misinformation.You know as well as me the whole remain mantra was to delay ,delay ,delay in the hope it would go away.
Illegally funded campaigns mis information? i know why i voted and didnt need any of those to see how the whole system was designed for an good old jolly up and to enhance failed politicians perception of superiority and line their pockets. You may have fell for the greatest con in history but seems most of us didnt.
So the massive hit to the economy, the job losses, extra red tape, businesses suffering, businesses up and moving to the EU. Is all worth it so you can feel like you're not contributing to the EU.
That's fine, but the issue is, the whole country (aside from the richest 0.2%) is suffering. Not just you and other leavers. How are you personally suffering from leaving ? if i didnt come on here or watch the news i wouldn't know we had left.
What massive hit to the economy? have you a breakdown of brexit v covid ? because no one else seems to.
Firstly, as a whole, the country has taken a huge hit. So it's not just about "effecting me personally". I have empathy for people who've lost their jobs and who've seen their businesses go under.
Secondly it has effected me personally through work and personal things.
This thread is about some of the damage done. As one single example. If you are so obtuse that you refuse to believe how bad it is until you have be handed a comparrison between the damage done by brexit Vs the damage done by covid. Then I suspect that there is no information that you would accept. Those who dogmatically believe in brexit despite all the evidence appear to be too far gone to reason with.
You may have seen no difference, then what was the point of causing all the problems?sky mate I posted a thread yesterday about 75 million going to the humber and 20million to teespprt and thousands of jobs not you nor Fabio who is from the north east had a word to say so are yous just as far gone as leavers then ?
Was that related to brexit?
Genuine question. I haven't read through that piece of news.no it’s related to your post about job loses mate howay it’s a bit weird how you constantly talk about job loses then some good news about jobs and then nothing from ya so arnt you to far gone like leavers ?
We specifically talk about brexit related job losses.
New jobs being created is great. But would be even better if it was new jobs being created, without the brexit job losses.
The too far gone, was aimed at leavers who just refuse to look at the problems caused by brexit, don't care about all the people this has impacted if they haven't noticed any difference for themselves. "okies mate no probs but it is a two way thing there’s a few on here remainers that just don’t want to hear about any good news aswell | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone? Is it all down to brexit or could it be that all major economies have restrictions at the moment? As time goes on i expect trade with the eu to diminish as the uk begins to open up new markets but that is not going to happen overnight with the state of the world at the moment. So you are saying it might have been wise to extend the transition period... which is what a lot of people were suggesting but brexiteers were too stubborn to do... I mean it’s not like we were in the middle of a global pandemic and they still would not budge You know as well as i do if we had extended we would have been made to pay more, could not agree our own trade deals with other countries and would probably have not been possible anyway as the eu needed to agree their new 7 year budget.Another way of remainers trying to kick the can futher down the road in desperation. In desperation to try to minimise the damage of brexit. no in desperation to thwart the will of the people.
Is delaying "thwarting".
Besides, it was the will of a people lied to for decades, culminating in illegally funded leave campaigns.
Seems odd that you're comfortable with important decisions being made based on misinformation.You know as well as me the whole remain mantra was to delay ,delay ,delay in the hope it would go away.
Illegally funded campaigns mis information? i know why i voted and didnt need any of those to see how the whole system was designed for an good old jolly up and to enhance failed politicians perception of superiority and line their pockets. You may have fell for the greatest con in history but seems most of us didnt.
So the massive hit to the economy, the job losses, extra red tape, businesses suffering, businesses up and moving to the EU. Is all worth it so you can feel like you're not contributing to the EU.
That's fine, but the issue is, the whole country (aside from the richest 0.2%) is suffering. Not just you and other leavers. How are you personally suffering from leaving ? if i didnt come on here or watch the news i wouldn't know we had left.
What massive hit to the economy? have you a breakdown of brexit v covid ? because no one else seems to.
ONS £271 billion costs of covid
From the express dated September last year
There is no definitive figure for the cost of Brexit so far.
A report from Bloomberg Economics estimates that Brexit has set Britain back to the tune of £130 billion so far.
What’s more, it further estimates that figure is likely to top £200 billion by the end of the year.
Between 1973 and 2018, the UK’s net contribution to the EU was £216 billion in real terms, according to Full Fact.
Bloomberg lol debunked many times
Michael Bloomberg the remainer.
The Bloomberg estimate quoted by remainers on fab has bounced around from 40 to 200 billion.
Think of a number, any old rubbish will do.
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. So what you're saying is, Brexit is bad for everyone? Is it all down to brexit or could it be that all major economies have restrictions at the moment? As time goes on i expect trade with the eu to diminish as the uk begins to open up new markets but that is not going to happen overnight with the state of the world at the moment. So you are saying it might have been wise to extend the transition period... which is what a lot of people were suggesting but brexiteers were too stubborn to do... I mean it’s not like we were in the middle of a global pandemic and they still would not budge You know as well as i do if we had extended we would have been made to pay more, could not agree our own trade deals with other countries and would probably have not been possible anyway as the eu needed to agree their new 7 year budget.Another way of remainers trying to kick the can futher down the road in desperation. In desperation to try to minimise the damage of brexit. no in desperation to thwart the will of the people.
Is delaying "thwarting".
Besides, it was the will of a people lied to for decades, culminating in illegally funded leave campaigns.
Seems odd that you're comfortable with important decisions being made based on misinformation.You know as well as me the whole remain mantra was to delay ,delay ,delay in the hope it would go away.
Illegally funded campaigns mis information? i know why i voted and didnt need any of those to see how the whole system was designed for an good old jolly up and to enhance failed politicians perception of superiority and line their pockets. You may have fell for the greatest con in history but seems most of us didnt.
So the massive hit to the economy, the job losses, extra red tape, businesses suffering, businesses up and moving to the EU. Is all worth it so you can feel like you're not contributing to the EU.
That's fine, but the issue is, the whole country (aside from the richest 0.2%) is suffering. Not just you and other leavers. How are you personally suffering from leaving ? if i didnt come on here or watch the news i wouldn't know we had left.
What massive hit to the economy? have you a breakdown of brexit v covid ? because no one else seems to.
Firstly, as a whole, the country has taken a huge hit. So it's not just about "effecting me personally". I have empathy for people who've lost their jobs and who've seen their businesses go under.
Secondly it has effected me personally through work and personal things.
This thread is about some of the damage done. As one single example. If you are so obtuse that you refuse to believe how bad it is until you have be handed a comparrison between the damage done by brexit Vs the damage done by covid. Then I suspect that there is no information that you would accept. Those who dogmatically believe in brexit despite all the evidence appear to be too far gone to reason with.
You may have seen no difference, then what was the point of causing all the problems?sky mate I posted a thread yesterday about 75 million going to the humber and 20million to teespprt and thousands of jobs not you nor Fabio who is from the north east had a word to say so are yous just as far gone as leavers then ?
Was that related to brexit?
Genuine question. I haven't read through that piece of news.no it’s related to your post about job loses mate howay it’s a bit weird how you constantly talk about job loses then some good news about jobs and then nothing from ya so arnt you to far gone like leavers ?
We specifically talk about brexit related job losses.
New jobs being created is great. But would be even better if it was new jobs being created, without the brexit job losses.
The too far gone, was aimed at leavers who just refuse to look at the problems caused by brexit, don't care about all the people this has impacted if they haven't noticed any difference for themselves. okies mate no probs but it is a two way thing there’s a few on here remainers that just don’t want to hear about any good news aswell " | |||
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"It's a reflection purely of a weaker Brussels economy, trade is a two way thing. If Brussels can sort itself out then trade can go up again, meanwhile we should focus on the rest of the world
But these figures show that a rise in trade with the rest of the world isn’t going to balance out what you are going to lose in trade with the eu...
Heaven forbid... I wouldn’t want the empire to shrink now.....
My trade with the rest of the world has never been better, and its with 7 billion people versus 600 million on a continent that has hobbled itself through petty nationalism.
What has specifically changed to allow you to sell more outside the EU now?
We shine brighter on the world stage, our soft power influence is reaching new peaks, particularly past colonials are clearly implying to me that they have a new found respect and love for this Sceptered Isle, that we gave two fingers to Delors and his cabal, that we are seen as renewed and invigorated.
We are loved and respected around the world, isn't that fantastic?
mostly wrong, much of it laughable"That isn’t fair, at least 40% of it was embarrassing | |||
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"It's a reflection purely of a weaker Brussels economy, trade is a two way thing. If Brussels can sort itself out then trade can go up again, meanwhile we should focus on the rest of the world
But these figures show that a rise in trade with the rest of the world isn’t going to balance out what you are going to lose in trade with the eu...
Heaven forbid... I wouldn’t want the empire to shrink now.....
My trade with the rest of the world has never been better, and its with 7 billion people versus 600 million on a continent that has hobbled itself through petty nationalism.
What has specifically changed to allow you to sell more outside the EU now?
We shine brighter on the world stage, our soft power influence is reaching new peaks, particularly past colonials are clearly implying to me that they have a new found respect and love for this Sceptered Isle, that we gave two fingers to Delors and his cabal, that we are seen as renewed and invigorated.
We are loved and respected around the world, isn't that fantastic?
mostly wrong, much of it laughable
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out." correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol  | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol "Brexit is an ‘injury’ ? | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
Brexit is an ‘injury’ ? "its a break lol your so quick to jump on any little crumb, sad really lol but i used it as a term of phrase hoping people would understand my point, some might some might not, point is its a fresh start and things will take a while, lets say we have a new trainer with new ideas... is that better? | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
Brexit is an ‘injury’ ?
its a break lol your so quick to jump on any little crumb, sad really lol but i used it as a term of phrase hoping people would understand my point, some might some might not, point is its a fresh start and things will take a while, lets say we have a new trainer with new ideas... is that better? "To run with your athletic metaphor, I would hope that after 3 months the athlete had a plan to gain full fitness and that his (or her) physio therapist was saying something more positive than "we'll just have to wait and see" | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
Brexit is an ‘injury’ ?
its a break lol your so quick to jump on any little crumb, sad really lol but i used it as a term of phrase hoping people would understand my point, some might some might not, point is its a fresh start and things will take a while, lets say we have a new trainer with new ideas... is that better?
To run with your athletic metaphor, I would hope that after 3 months the athlete had a plan to gain full fitness and that his (or her) physio therapist was saying something more positive than "we'll just have to wait and see" "never been an athlete then? changing tactics can be like turning an oil tanker, it takes time! especially in a pandemic or with the stadium not in use! But so many on here just want to throw stones. if you want to slag off britain and whatever else, get on with it, because regarless of what you say, change takes time. | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
Brexit is an ‘injury’ ?
its a break lol your so quick to jump on any little crumb, sad really lol but i used it as a term of phrase hoping people would understand my point, some might some might not, point is its a fresh start and things will take a while, lets say we have a new trainer with new ideas... is that better?
To run with your athletic metaphor, I would hope that after 3 months the athlete had a plan to gain full fitness and that his (or her) physio therapist was saying something more positive than "we'll just have to wait and see"
never been an athlete then? changing tactics can be like turning an oil tanker, it takes time! especially in a pandemic or with the stadium not in use! But so many on here just want to throw stones.
if you want to slag off britain and whatever else, get on with it, because regarless of what you say, change takes time. "Tell that to the people losing jobs . Especially the fishermen, you know the ones who were supposed to benefit from brexit, but we're thrown under that big red bus. | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
Brexit is an ‘injury’ ?
its a break lol your so quick to jump on any little crumb, sad really lol but i used it as a term of phrase hoping people would understand my point, some might some might not, point is its a fresh start and things will take a while, lets say we have a new trainer with new ideas... is that better?
To run with your athletic metaphor, I would hope that after 3 months the athlete had a plan to gain full fitness and that his (or her) physio therapist was saying something more positive than "we'll just have to wait and see"
never been an athlete then? changing tactics can be like turning an oil tanker, it takes time! especially in a pandemic or with the stadium not in use! But so many on here just want to throw stones.
if you want to slag off britain and whatever else, get on with it, because regarless of what you say, change takes time.
Tell that to the people losing jobs . Especially the fishermen, you know the ones who were supposed to benefit from brexit, but we're thrown under that big red bus."Being in Europe halved our fishing fleet and catch. | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
Brexit is an ‘injury’ ?
its a break lol your so quick to jump on any little crumb, sad really lol but i used it as a term of phrase hoping people would understand my point, some might some might not, point is its a fresh start and things will take a while, lets say we have a new trainer with new ideas... is that better?
To run with your athletic metaphor, I would hope that after 3 months the athlete had a plan to gain full fitness and that his (or her) physio therapist was saying something more positive than "we'll just have to wait and see"
never been an athlete then? changing tactics can be like turning an oil tanker, it takes time! especially in a pandemic or with the stadium not in use! But so many on here just want to throw stones.
if you want to slag off britain and whatever else, get on with it, because regarless of what you say, change takes time.
Tell that to the people losing jobs . Especially the fishermen, you know the ones who were supposed to benefit from brexit, but we're thrown under that big red bus.
Being in Europe halved our fishing fleet and catch. "Simply not true | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
Brexit is an ‘injury’ ?
its a break lol your so quick to jump on any little crumb, sad really lol but i used it as a term of phrase hoping people would understand my point, some might some might not, point is its a fresh start and things will take a while, lets say we have a new trainer with new ideas... is that better?
To run with your athletic metaphor, I would hope that after 3 months the athlete had a plan to gain full fitness and that his (or her) physio therapist was saying something more positive than "we'll just have to wait and see"
never been an athlete then? changing tactics can be like turning an oil tanker, it takes time! especially in a pandemic or with the stadium not in use! But so many on here just want to throw stones.
if you want to slag off britain and whatever else, get on with it, because regarless of what you say, change takes time.
Tell that to the people losing jobs . Especially the fishermen, you know the ones who were supposed to benefit from brexit, but we're thrown under that big red bus.
Being in Europe halved our fishing fleet and catch. "Fishing industry in the UK is doing great now..... Oh wait... | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
Brexit is an ‘injury’ ?
its a break lol your so quick to jump on any little crumb, sad really lol but i used it as a term of phrase hoping people would understand my point, some might some might not, point is its a fresh start and things will take a while, lets say we have a new trainer with new ideas... is that better?
To run with your athletic metaphor, I would hope that after 3 months the athlete had a plan to gain full fitness and that his (or her) physio therapist was saying something more positive than "we'll just have to wait and see"
never been an athlete then? changing tactics can be like turning an oil tanker, it takes time! especially in a pandemic or with the stadium not in use! But so many on here just want to throw stones.
if you want to slag off britain and whatever else, get on with it, because regarless of what you say, change takes time.
Tell that to the people losing jobs . Especially the fishermen, you know the ones who were supposed to benefit from brexit, but we're thrown under that big red bus.
Being in Europe halved our fishing fleet and catch. "Think you might find that our fishing fleet was halved by British fishermen selling their licences? | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
Brexit is an ‘injury’ ?
its a break lol your so quick to jump on any little crumb, sad really lol but i used it as a term of phrase hoping people would understand my point, some might some might not, point is its a fresh start and things will take a while, lets say we have a new trainer with new ideas... is that better?
To run with your athletic metaphor, I would hope that after 3 months the athlete had a plan to gain full fitness and that his (or her) physio therapist was saying something more positive than "we'll just have to wait and see"
never been an athlete then? changing tactics can be like turning an oil tanker, it takes time! especially in a pandemic or with the stadium not in use! But so many on here just want to throw stones.
if you want to slag off britain and whatever else, get on with it, because regarless of what you say, change takes time.
Tell that to the people losing jobs . Especially the fishermen, you know the ones who were supposed to benefit from brexit, but we're thrown under that big red bus.
Being in Europe halved our fishing fleet and catch.
Simply not true "I looked it all up on the ministry of ag and fish website and yes their figures go back to 1974 | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
Brexit is an ‘injury’ ?
its a break lol your so quick to jump on any little crumb, sad really lol but i used it as a term of phrase hoping people would understand my point, some might some might not, point is its a fresh start and things will take a while, lets say we have a new trainer with new ideas... is that better?
To run with your athletic metaphor, I would hope that after 3 months the athlete had a plan to gain full fitness and that his (or her) physio therapist was saying something more positive than "we'll just have to wait and see"
never been an athlete then? changing tactics can be like turning an oil tanker, it takes time! especially in a pandemic or with the stadium not in use! But so many on here just want to throw stones.
if you want to slag off britain and whatever else, get on with it, because regarless of what you say, change takes time.
Tell that to the people losing jobs . Especially the fishermen, you know the ones who were supposed to benefit from brexit, but we're thrown under that big red bus.
Being in Europe halved our fishing fleet and catch.
Think you might find that our fishing fleet was halved by British fishermen selling their licences?"Ooh so that'll be daft European quotas then. You're getting there | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
Brexit is an ‘injury’ ?
its a break lol your so quick to jump on any little crumb, sad really lol but i used it as a term of phrase hoping people would understand my point, some might some might not, point is its a fresh start and things will take a while, lets say we have a new trainer with new ideas... is that better?
To run with your athletic metaphor, I would hope that after 3 months the athlete had a plan to gain full fitness and that his (or her) physio therapist was saying something more positive than "we'll just have to wait and see"
never been an athlete then? changing tactics can be like turning an oil tanker, it takes time! especially in a pandemic or with the stadium not in use! But so many on here just want to throw stones.
if you want to slag off britain and whatever else, get on with it, because regarless of what you say, change takes time.
Tell that to the people losing jobs . Especially the fishermen, you know the ones who were supposed to benefit from brexit, but we're thrown under that big red bus.
Being in Europe halved our fishing fleet and catch.
Think you might find that our fishing fleet was halved by British fishermen selling their licences?
Ooh so that'll be daft European quotas then. You're getting there "You mean the quotas that stopped over fishing, saving the stocks so they could breed and future generations could harvest them? Why that's the very definition of "daft" | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
Brexit is an ‘injury’ ?
its a break lol your so quick to jump on any little crumb, sad really lol but i used it as a term of phrase hoping people would understand my point, some might some might not, point is its a fresh start and things will take a while, lets say we have a new trainer with new ideas... is that better?
To run with your athletic metaphor, I would hope that after 3 months the athlete had a plan to gain full fitness and that his (or her) physio therapist was saying something more positive than "we'll just have to wait and see"
never been an athlete then? changing tactics can be like turning an oil tanker, it takes time! especially in a pandemic or with the stadium not in use! But so many on here just want to throw stones.
if you want to slag off britain and whatever else, get on with it, because regarless of what you say, change takes time.
Tell that to the people losing jobs . Especially the fishermen, you know the ones who were supposed to benefit from brexit, but we're thrown under that big red bus.
Being in Europe halved our fishing fleet and catch.
Simply not true
I looked it all up on the ministry of ag and fish website and yes their figures go back to 1974 "Good you can read Now go and read about fishing limits in Iceland, Norway, and the Barents Sea. Education is a wonderful thing. | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
Brexit is an ‘injury’ ?
its a break lol your so quick to jump on any little crumb, sad really lol but i used it as a term of phrase hoping people would understand my point, some might some might not, point is its a fresh start and things will take a while, lets say we have a new trainer with new ideas... is that better?
To run with your athletic metaphor, I would hope that after 3 months the athlete had a plan to gain full fitness and that his (or her) physio therapist was saying something more positive than "we'll just have to wait and see"
never been an athlete then? changing tactics can be like turning an oil tanker, it takes time! especially in a pandemic or with the stadium not in use! But so many on here just want to throw stones.
if you want to slag off britain and whatever else, get on with it, because regarless of what you say, change takes time.
Tell that to the people losing jobs . Especially the fishermen, you know the ones who were supposed to benefit from brexit, but we're thrown under that big red bus."yeah you try telling an athlete if they want to improve they might have to go back a step and then forward lol you cant just throw them under a bus! jesus its their career, i mean they have been training their entire lifes and now you want them to rethink, really, i mean really.... is that hysterical enough lol do you drink a lot of coffee? | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
Brexit is an ‘injury’ ?
its a break lol your so quick to jump on any little crumb, sad really lol but i used it as a term of phrase hoping people would understand my point, some might some might not, point is its a fresh start and things will take a while, lets say we have a new trainer with new ideas... is that better? "Fair enough, how long do we have to wait for this ‘new trainers’ ideas to work? | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
Brexit is an ‘injury’ ?
its a break lol your so quick to jump on any little crumb, sad really lol but i used it as a term of phrase hoping people would understand my point, some might some might not, point is its a fresh start and things will take a while, lets say we have a new trainer with new ideas... is that better?
To run with your athletic metaphor, I would hope that after 3 months the athlete had a plan to gain full fitness and that his (or her) physio therapist was saying something more positive than "we'll just have to wait and see"
never been an athlete then? changing tactics can be like turning an oil tanker, it takes time! especially in a pandemic or with the stadium not in use! But so many on here just want to throw stones.
if you want to slag off britain and whatever else, get on with it, because regarless of what you say, change takes time.
Tell that to the people losing jobs . Especially the fishermen, you know the ones who were supposed to benefit from brexit, but we're thrown under that big red bus.
Being in Europe halved our fishing fleet and catch.
Simply not true
I looked it all up on the ministry of ag and fish website and yes their figures go back to 1974 "this is true, we joined the eu and shared our waters, which then led to over fishing, which then meant quotas were introduced, which then meant smaller fishing boats struggled, some ended up selling their quotas as running a ship for a smaller share didnt work, but the overall effect was a loss to the british fishing industry. but we could buy french cheese without tariffs while they fucked our cod and shafted our halibut the dirty fucking bastards lol | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
Brexit is an ‘injury’ ?
its a break lol your so quick to jump on any little crumb, sad really lol but i used it as a term of phrase hoping people would understand my point, some might some might not, point is its a fresh start and things will take a while, lets say we have a new trainer with new ideas... is that better?
To run with your athletic metaphor, I would hope that after 3 months the athlete had a plan to gain full fitness and that his (or her) physio therapist was saying something more positive than "we'll just have to wait and see"
never been an athlete then? changing tactics can be like turning an oil tanker, it takes time! especially in a pandemic or with the stadium not in use! But so many on here just want to throw stones.
if you want to slag off britain and whatever else, get on with it, because regarless of what you say, change takes time.
Tell that to the people losing jobs . Especially the fishermen, you know the ones who were supposed to benefit from brexit, but we're thrown under that big red bus.
yeah you try telling an athlete if they want to improve they might have to go back a step and then forward lol
you cant just throw them under a bus! jesus its their career, i mean they have been training their entire lifes and now you want them to rethink, really, i mean really....
is that hysterical enough lol do you drink a lot of coffee?"It's called a setback and it happens. Rushing just might make matters worse. | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
Brexit is an ‘injury’ ?
its a break lol your so quick to jump on any little crumb, sad really lol but i used it as a term of phrase hoping people would understand my point, some might some might not, point is its a fresh start and things will take a while, lets say we have a new trainer with new ideas... is that better?
Fair enough, how long do we have to wait for this ‘new trainers’ ideas to work? "i would have said a year and then it aint teething problems it is a problem! the pandemic is going to make it tricky, how long would we give a new trainer, a season and then we want to see some signs were on right path or its time to look for a replacement | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
Brexit is an ‘injury’ ?
its a break lol your so quick to jump on any little crumb, sad really lol but i used it as a term of phrase hoping people would understand my point, some might some might not, point is its a fresh start and things will take a while, lets say we have a new trainer with new ideas... is that better?
To run with your athletic metaphor, I would hope that after 3 months the athlete had a plan to gain full fitness and that his (or her) physio therapist was saying something more positive than "we'll just have to wait and see"
never been an athlete then? changing tactics can be like turning an oil tanker, it takes time! especially in a pandemic or with the stadium not in use! But so many on here just want to throw stones.
if you want to slag off britain and whatever else, get on with it, because regarless of what you say, change takes time.
Tell that to the people losing jobs . Especially the fishermen, you know the ones who were supposed to benefit from brexit, but we're thrown under that big red bus.
yeah you try telling an athlete if they want to improve they might have to go back a step and then forward lol
you cant just throw them under a bus! jesus its their career, i mean they have been training their entire lifes and now you want them to rethink, really, i mean really....
is that hysterical enough lol do you drink a lot of coffee?
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
Brexit is an ‘injury’ ?
its a break lol your so quick to jump on any little crumb, sad really lol but i used it as a term of phrase hoping people would understand my point, some might some might not, point is its a fresh start and things will take a while, lets say we have a new trainer with new ideas... is that better?
Fair enough, how long do we have to wait for this ‘new trainers’ ideas to work?
i would have said a year and then it aint teething problems it is a problem! the pandemic is going to make it tricky, how long would we give a new trainer, a season and then we want to see some signs were on right path or its time to look for a replacement "Premier league managers get about 1-2 months of bad results then they are out. | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
Brexit is an ‘injury’ ?
its a break lol your so quick to jump on any little crumb, sad really lol but i used it as a term of phrase hoping people would understand my point, some might some might not, point is its a fresh start and things will take a while, lets say we have a new trainer with new ideas... is that better?
To run with your athletic metaphor, I would hope that after 3 months the athlete had a plan to gain full fitness and that his (or her) physio therapist was saying something more positive than "we'll just have to wait and see"
never been an athlete then? changing tactics can be like turning an oil tanker, it takes time! especially in a pandemic or with the stadium not in use! But so many on here just want to throw stones.
if you want to slag off britain and whatever else, get on with it, because regarless of what you say, change takes time.
Tell that to the people losing jobs . Especially the fishermen, you know the ones who were supposed to benefit from brexit, but we're thrown under that big red bus.
Being in Europe halved our fishing fleet and catch.
Simply not true
I looked it all up on the ministry of ag and fish website and yes their figures go back to 1974
this is true, we joined the eu and shared our waters, which then led to over fishing, which then meant quotas were introduced, which then meant smaller fishing boats struggled, some ended up selling their quotas as running a ship for a smaller share didnt work, but the overall effect was a loss to the british fishing industry.
but we could buy french cheese without tariffs while they fucked our cod and shafted our halibut the dirty fucking bastards lol "Hope you have evidence for the above. Most halibut consumed in the UK is from the north Atlantic | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
Brexit is an ‘injury’ ?
its a break lol your so quick to jump on any little crumb, sad really lol but i used it as a term of phrase hoping people would understand my point, some might some might not, point is its a fresh start and things will take a while, lets say we have a new trainer with new ideas... is that better?
To run with your athletic metaphor, I would hope that after 3 months the athlete had a plan to gain full fitness and that his (or her) physio therapist was saying something more positive than "we'll just have to wait and see"
never been an athlete then? changing tactics can be like turning an oil tanker, it takes time! especially in a pandemic or with the stadium not in use! But so many on here just want to throw stones.
if you want to slag off britain and whatever else, get on with it, because regarless of what you say, change takes time.
Tell that to the people losing jobs . Especially the fishermen, you know the ones who were supposed to benefit from brexit, but we're thrown under that big red bus.
Being in Europe halved our fishing fleet and catch.
Simply not true
I looked it all up on the ministry of ag and fish website and yes their figures go back to 1974
this is true, we joined the eu and shared our waters, which then led to over fishing, which then meant quotas were introduced, which then meant smaller fishing boats struggled, some ended up selling their quotas as running a ship for a smaller share didnt work, but the overall effect was a loss to the british fishing industry.
but we could buy french cheese without tariffs while they fucked our cod and shafted our halibut the dirty fucking bastards lol "So Brexit is about fishing again? Since Brexit fishing was irrelevant and now it’s back as being relevant, it’s hard to keep up | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
Brexit is an ‘injury’ ?
its a break lol your so quick to jump on any little crumb, sad really lol but i used it as a term of phrase hoping people would understand my point, some might some might not, point is its a fresh start and things will take a while, lets say we have a new trainer with new ideas... is that better?
Fair enough, how long do we have to wait for this ‘new trainers’ ideas to work?
i would have said a year and then it aint teething problems it is a problem! the pandemic is going to make it tricky, how long would we give a new trainer, a season and then we want to see some signs were on right path or its time to look for a replacement
Premier league managers get about 1-2 months of bad results then they are out. "the country is a big football team! if you scaled it upto 60 million 1-2 month would be years! lol | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
Brexit is an ‘injury’ ?
its a break lol your so quick to jump on any little crumb, sad really lol but i used it as a term of phrase hoping people would understand my point, some might some might not, point is its a fresh start and things will take a while, lets say we have a new trainer with new ideas... is that better?
To run with your athletic metaphor, I would hope that after 3 months the athlete had a plan to gain full fitness and that his (or her) physio therapist was saying something more positive than "we'll just have to wait and see"
never been an athlete then? changing tactics can be like turning an oil tanker, it takes time! especially in a pandemic or with the stadium not in use! But so many on here just want to throw stones.
if you want to slag off britain and whatever else, get on with it, because regarless of what you say, change takes time.
Tell that to the people losing jobs . Especially the fishermen, you know the ones who were supposed to benefit from brexit, but we're thrown under that big red bus.
Being in Europe halved our fishing fleet and catch.
Simply not true
I looked it all up on the ministry of ag and fish website and yes their figures go back to 1974
this is true, we joined the eu and shared our waters, which then led to over fishing, which then meant quotas were introduced, which then meant smaller fishing boats struggled, some ended up selling their quotas as running a ship for a smaller share didnt work, but the overall effect was a loss to the british fishing industry.
but we could buy french cheese without tariffs while they fucked our cod and shafted our halibut the dirty fucking bastards lol "Think you will find the French and Spanish fleets were geared to their own waters . They bought the middle water licences from U.K. operators (the deep sea fleet had already been devastated by the cod war with Iceland) and the continental guys developed the business by investing and frankly being better at fishing . The U.K. fleet had been over fishing for a long time before we joined the European Union. The U.K. bigger ships didn’t fish in the North Sea as they wanted cod and haddock. Just to add some U.K. operators sold their boats because they were shit fishermen and thought Christmas had come to get out. . | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
Brexit is an ‘injury’ ?
its a break lol your so quick to jump on any little crumb, sad really lol but i used it as a term of phrase hoping people would understand my point, some might some might not, point is its a fresh start and things will take a while, lets say we have a new trainer with new ideas... is that better?
To run with your athletic metaphor, I would hope that after 3 months the athlete had a plan to gain full fitness and that his (or her) physio therapist was saying something more positive than "we'll just have to wait and see"
never been an athlete then? changing tactics can be like turning an oil tanker, it takes time! especially in a pandemic or with the stadium not in use! But so many on here just want to throw stones.
if you want to slag off britain and whatever else, get on with it, because regarless of what you say, change takes time.
Tell that to the people losing jobs . Especially the fishermen, you know the ones who were supposed to benefit from brexit, but we're thrown under that big red bus.
Being in Europe halved our fishing fleet and catch.
Simply not true
I looked it all up on the ministry of ag and fish website and yes their figures go back to 1974
this is true, we joined the eu and shared our waters, which then led to over fishing, which then meant quotas were introduced, which then meant smaller fishing boats struggled, some ended up selling their quotas as running a ship for a smaller share didnt work, but the overall effect was a loss to the british fishing industry.
but we could buy french cheese without tariffs while they fucked our cod and shafted our halibut the dirty fucking bastards lol
So Brexit is about fishing again? Since Brexit fishing was irrelevant and now it’s back as being relevant, it’s hard to keep up"no thread has gone fishy lol | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
Brexit is an ‘injury’ ?
its a break lol your so quick to jump on any little crumb, sad really lol but i used it as a term of phrase hoping people would understand my point, some might some might not, point is its a fresh start and things will take a while, lets say we have a new trainer with new ideas... is that better?
To run with your athletic metaphor, I would hope that after 3 months the athlete had a plan to gain full fitness and that his (or her) physio therapist was saying something more positive than "we'll just have to wait and see"
never been an athlete then? changing tactics can be like turning an oil tanker, it takes time! especially in a pandemic or with the stadium not in use! But so many on here just want to throw stones.
if you want to slag off britain and whatever else, get on with it, because regarless of what you say, change takes time.
Tell that to the people losing jobs . Especially the fishermen, you know the ones who were supposed to benefit from brexit, but we're thrown under that big red bus.
Being in Europe halved our fishing fleet and catch.
Simply not true
I looked it all up on the ministry of ag and fish website and yes their figures go back to 1974
this is true, we joined the eu and shared our waters, which then led to over fishing, which then meant quotas were introduced, which then meant smaller fishing boats struggled, some ended up selling their quotas as running a ship for a smaller share didnt work, but the overall effect was a loss to the british fishing industry.
but we could buy french cheese without tariffs while they fucked our cod and shafted our halibut the dirty fucking bastards lol
So Brexit is about fishing again? Since Brexit fishing was irrelevant and now it’s back as being relevant, it’s hard to keep up
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
Brexit is an ‘injury’ ?
its a break lol your so quick to jump on any little crumb, sad really lol but i used it as a term of phrase hoping people would understand my point, some might some might not, point is its a fresh start and things will take a while, lets say we have a new trainer with new ideas... is that better?
To run with your athletic metaphor, I would hope that after 3 months the athlete had a plan to gain full fitness and that his (or her) physio therapist was saying something more positive than "we'll just have to wait and see"
never been an athlete then? changing tactics can be like turning an oil tanker, it takes time! especially in a pandemic or with the stadium not in use! But so many on here just want to throw stones.
if you want to slag off britain and whatever else, get on with it, because regarless of what you say, change takes time.
Tell that to the people losing jobs . Especially the fishermen, you know the ones who were supposed to benefit from brexit, but we're thrown under that big red bus.
Being in Europe halved our fishing fleet and catch.
Simply not true
I looked it all up on the ministry of ag and fish website and yes their figures go back to 1974
this is true, we joined the eu and shared our waters, which then led to over fishing, which then meant quotas were introduced, which then meant smaller fishing boats struggled, some ended up selling their quotas as running a ship for a smaller share didnt work, but the overall effect was a loss to the british fishing industry.
but we could buy french cheese without tariffs while they fucked our cod and shafted our halibut the dirty fucking bastards lol
Think you will find the French and Spanish fleets were geared to their own waters .
They bought the middle water licences from U.K. operators (the deep sea fleet had already been devastated by the cod war with Iceland) and the continental guys developed the business by investing and frankly being better at fishing .
The U.K. fleet had been over fishing for a long time before we joined the European Union.
The U.K. bigger ships didn’t fish in the North Sea as they wanted cod and haddock.
Just to add some U.K. operators sold their boats because they were shit fishermen and thought Christmas had come to get out. .
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
Brexit is an ‘injury’ ?
its a break lol your so quick to jump on any little crumb, sad really lol but i used it as a term of phrase hoping people would understand my point, some might some might not, point is its a fresh start and things will take a while, lets say we have a new trainer with new ideas... is that better?
Fair enough, how long do we have to wait for this ‘new trainers’ ideas to work?
i would have said a year and then it aint teething problems it is a problem! the pandemic is going to make it tricky, how long would we give a new trainer, a season and then we want to see some signs were on right path or its time to look for a replacement
Premier league managers get about 1-2 months of bad results then they are out. the country is a big football team! if you scaled it upto 60 million 1-2 month would be years! lol "No it wouldn’t, are we premier league or championship level? Managers get more time in the lower leagues | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
Brexit is an ‘injury’ ?
its a break lol your so quick to jump on any little crumb, sad really lol but i used it as a term of phrase hoping people would understand my point, some might some might not, point is its a fresh start and things will take a while, lets say we have a new trainer with new ideas... is that better?
Fair enough, how long do we have to wait for this ‘new trainers’ ideas to work?
i would have said a year and then it aint teething problems it is a problem! the pandemic is going to make it tricky, how long would we give a new trainer, a season and then we want to see some signs were on right path or its time to look for a replacement
Premier league managers get about 1-2 months of bad results then they are out. the country is a big football team! if you scaled it upto 60 million 1-2 month would be years! lol
No it wouldn’t, are we premier league or championship level? Managers get more time in the lower leagues "60 million divide by 11 times 2 month, equals a lot of years, Im giving them one and then having another appraisal .... | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
Brexit is an ‘injury’ ?
its a break lol your so quick to jump on any little crumb, sad really lol but i used it as a term of phrase hoping people would understand my point, some might some might not, point is its a fresh start and things will take a while, lets say we have a new trainer with new ideas... is that better?
Fair enough, how long do we have to wait for this ‘new trainers’ ideas to work?
i would have said a year and then it aint teething problems it is a problem! the pandemic is going to make it tricky, how long would we give a new trainer, a season and then we want to see some signs were on right path or its time to look for a replacement
Premier league managers get about 1-2 months of bad results then they are out. the country is a big football team! if you scaled it upto 60 million 1-2 month would be years! lol
No it wouldn’t, are we premier league or championship level? Managers get more time in the lower leagues
60 million divide by 11 times 2 month, equals a lot of years, Im giving them one and then having another appraisal .... "Where do get 60 million divided by 11 from? Man Utd has 450 million global fans, | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
Brexit is an ‘injury’ ?
its a break lol your so quick to jump on any little crumb, sad really lol but i used it as a term of phrase hoping people would understand my point, some might some might not, point is its a fresh start and things will take a while, lets say we have a new trainer with new ideas... is that better?
Fair enough, how long do we have to wait for this ‘new trainers’ ideas to work?
i would have said a year and then it aint teething problems it is a problem! the pandemic is going to make it tricky, how long would we give a new trainer, a season and then we want to see some signs were on right path or its time to look for a replacement
Premier league managers get about 1-2 months of bad results then they are out. the country is a big football team! if you scaled it upto 60 million 1-2 month would be years! lol
No it wouldn’t, are we premier league or championship level? Managers get more time in the lower leagues
60 million divide by 11 times 2 month, equals a lot of years, Im giving them one and then having another appraisal ....
Where do get 60 million divided by 11 from? Man Utd has 450 million global fans, "really? 11 players for the manager to manage(ish) 60 million population to manage(ish)..... I resign lol | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
Brexit is an ‘injury’ ?
its a break lol your so quick to jump on any little crumb, sad really lol but i used it as a term of phrase hoping people would understand my point, some might some might not, point is its a fresh start and things will take a while, lets say we have a new trainer with new ideas... is that better?
Fair enough, how long do we have to wait for this ‘new trainers’ ideas to work?
i would have said a year and then it aint teething problems it is a problem! the pandemic is going to make it tricky, how long would we give a new trainer, a season and then we want to see some signs were on right path or its time to look for a replacement
Premier league managers get about 1-2 months of bad results then they are out. the country is a big football team! if you scaled it upto 60 million 1-2 month would be years! lol
No it wouldn’t, are we premier league or championship level? Managers get more time in the lower leagues
60 million divide by 11 times 2 month, equals a lot of years, Im giving them one and then having another appraisal ....
Where do get 60 million divided by 11 from? Man Utd has 450 million global fans,
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
Brexit is an ‘injury’ ?
its a break lol your so quick to jump on any little crumb, sad really lol but i used it as a term of phrase hoping people would understand my point, some might some might not, point is its a fresh start and things will take a while, lets say we have a new trainer with new ideas... is that better?
To run with your athletic metaphor, I would hope that after 3 months the athlete had a plan to gain full fitness and that his (or her) physio therapist was saying something more positive than "we'll just have to wait and see"
never been an athlete then? changing tactics can be like turning an oil tanker, it takes time! especially in a pandemic or with the stadium not in use! But so many on here just want to throw stones.
if you want to slag off britain and whatever else, get on with it, because regarless of what you say, change takes time.
Tell that to the people losing jobs . Especially the fishermen, you know the ones who were supposed to benefit from brexit, but we're thrown under that big red bus.
Being in Europe halved our fishing fleet and catch.
Simply not true
I looked it all up on the ministry of ag and fish website and yes their figures go back to 1974
this is true, we joined the eu and shared our waters, which then led to over fishing, which then meant quotas were introduced, which then meant smaller fishing boats struggled, some ended up selling their quotas as running a ship for a smaller share didnt work, but the overall effect was a loss to the british fishing industry.
but we could buy french cheese without tariffs while they fucked our cod and shafted our halibut the dirty fucking bastards lol
Think you will find the French and Spanish fleets were geared to their own waters .
They bought the middle water licences from U.K. operators (the deep sea fleet had already been devastated by the cod war with Iceland) and the continental guys developed the business by investing and frankly being better at fishing .
The U.K. fleet had been over fishing for a long time before we joined the European Union.
The U.K. bigger ships didn’t fish in the North Sea as they wanted cod and haddock.
Just to add some U.K. operators sold their boats because they were shit fishermen and thought Christmas had come to get out. .
ok, the british are shit fishermen and after hundreds of years fishing they realised they were shit and sold their boats lol wankers "Feel free to check the stats . The ones who are good make a shit load of money . Sadly most don’t as it’s not an exact science. Unlike farmers cows locked in a field the fish don’t have to stay in the same place. A lot of the bigger ship fleets were sold by London based owners who were losing money. They could sell the ship or do oil support They could sell the licence on top. Lots of Spanish and Dutch wanted those licences. Good time to get out. | |||
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"you forgot to mention the january £6.6 billion fall in imports from the eu too seems both sides need to sort their acts out. correct, and with the pandemic in the middle of it all, its going to be hard getting a clear picture. Either way its not positive but still early days! You wouldnt expect an athlete to prove his worth 3 months after injury lol
Brexit is an ‘injury’ ?
its a break lol your so quick to jump on any little crumb, sad really lol but i used it as a term of phrase hoping people would understand my point, some might some might not, point is its a fresh start and things will take a while, lets say we have a new trainer with new ideas... is that better?
To run with your athletic metaphor, I would hope that after 3 months the athlete had a plan to gain full fitness and that his (or her) physio therapist was saying something more positive than "we'll just have to wait and see"
never been an athlete then? changing tactics can be like turning an oil tanker, it takes time! especially in a pandemic or with the stadium not in use! But so many on here just want to throw stones.
if you want to slag off britain and whatever else, get on with it, because regarless of what you say, change takes time. "that’s all they do slag there own country off it’s very sad | |||
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"True believers of the cult of Brexit will never, ever admit that any future economic issue is down to Brexit. Brexit was a creation of a mindset that needed to blame the EU for the failings of our own country. It stands to reason therefore that true adherence to the cult means that future Brexit failings will be laid at the door of... The EU for being bully’s The EU for being inflexible Coronavirus for destroying our economy Remainers (or anyone) who didn’t back Brexit Jeremy Corbyn for being Jeremy Corbyn Joe Biden for being Joe Biden Admitting that Brexit is an unpolishable turd can never be admitted to. “All is well, all is well... and the band played on.”" atleast you never called leavers racists or traitors this time your mellowing with age thank god | |||
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"True believers of the cult of Brexit will never, ever admit that any future economic issue is down to Brexit. Brexit was a creation of a mindset that needed to blame the EU for the failings of our own country. It stands to reason therefore that true adherence to the cult means that future Brexit failings will be laid at the door of... The EU for being bully’s The EU for being inflexible Coronavirus for destroying our economy Remainers (or anyone) who didn’t back Brexit Jeremy Corbyn for being Jeremy Corbyn Joe Biden for being Joe Biden Admitting that Brexit is an unpolishable turd can never be admitted to. “All is well, all is well... and the band played on.”" Its amusing Because when the eu fucks up..like over the vaccine.. everyone acknowledges it. Yet boris lies on a daily basis..threatens to break international law..sells everyone down the river..and it's still somehow the eu's fault . It's pointless even trying to understand it. | |||
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"True believers of the cult of Brexit will never, ever admit that any future economic issue is down to Brexit. Brexit was a creation of a mindset that needed to blame the EU for the failings of our own country. It stands to reason therefore that true adherence to the cult means that future Brexit failings will be laid at the door of... The EU for being bully’s The EU for being inflexible Coronavirus for destroying our economy Remainers (or anyone) who didn’t back Brexit Jeremy Corbyn for being Jeremy Corbyn Joe Biden for being Joe Biden Admitting that Brexit is an unpolishable turd can never be admitted to. “All is well, all is well... and the band played on.”atleast you never called leavers racists or traitors this time your mellowing with age thank god " Traitors you say ? Nice bit of revisionism https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1183378/Brexit-News-update-latest-Boris-Johnson-vote-Remain-leave-Today-Programme/amp | |||
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"True believers of the cult of Brexit will never, ever admit that any future economic issue is down to Brexit. Brexit was a creation of a mindset that needed to blame the EU for the failings of our own country. It stands to reason therefore that true adherence to the cult means that future Brexit failings will be laid at the door of... The EU for being bully’s The EU for being inflexible Coronavirus for destroying our economy Remainers (or anyone) who didn’t back Brexit Jeremy Corbyn for being Jeremy Corbyn Joe Biden for being Joe Biden Admitting that Brexit is an unpolishable turd can never be admitted to. “All is well, all is well... and the band played on.”" If brexit don't work I'll buy you a drink, but I don't think we'll know for around 5 to 10 years, we certainly can't tell in a few months lol But the eu are bullies Jeremy was a fence sitter Joe biden is Jeremy with an American accent And covid certainly isn't helping the economy, is it? Lol | |||
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"True believers of the cult of Brexit will never, ever admit that any future economic issue is down to Brexit. Brexit was a creation of a mindset that needed to blame the EU for the failings of our own country. It stands to reason therefore that true adherence to the cult means that future Brexit failings will be laid at the door of... The EU for being bully’s The EU for being inflexible Coronavirus for destroying our economy Remainers (or anyone) who didn’t back Brexit Jeremy Corbyn for being Jeremy Corbyn Joe Biden for being Joe Biden Admitting that Brexit is an unpolishable turd can never be admitted to. “All is well, all is well... and the band played on.” Its amusing Because when the eu fucks up..like over the vaccine.. everyone acknowledges it. Yet boris lies on a daily basis..threatens to break international law..sells everyone down the river..and it's still somehow the eu's fault . It's pointless even trying to understand it." It is their default setting, they will still be blaming the EU and remain voters in 10 years time | |||
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"True believers of the cult of Brexit will never, ever admit that any future economic issue is down to Brexit. Brexit was a creation of a mindset that needed to blame the EU for the failings of our own country. It stands to reason therefore that true adherence to the cult means that future Brexit failings will be laid at the door of... The EU for being bully’s The EU for being inflexible Coronavirus for destroying our economy Remainers (or anyone) who didn’t back Brexit Jeremy Corbyn for being Jeremy Corbyn Joe Biden for being Joe Biden Admitting that Brexit is an unpolishable turd can never be admitted to. “All is well, all is well... and the band played on.”atleast you never called leavers racists or traitors this time your mellowing with age thank god Traitors you say ? Nice bit of revisionism https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1183378/Brexit-News-update-latest-Boris-Johnson-vote-Remain-leave-Today-Programme/amp" yes traitor Lionel he called us that many times and much worse but like I said he’s mellowed now so all’s good | |||
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"True believers of the cult of Brexit will never, ever admit that any future economic issue is down to Brexit. Brexit was a creation of a mindset that needed to blame the EU for the failings of our own country. It stands to reason therefore that true adherence to the cult means that future Brexit failings will be laid at the door of... The EU for being bully’s The EU for being inflexible Coronavirus for destroying our economy Remainers (or anyone) who didn’t back Brexit Jeremy Corbyn for being Jeremy Corbyn Joe Biden for being Joe Biden Admitting that Brexit is an unpolishable turd can never be admitted to. “All is well, all is well... and the band played on.”atleast you never called leavers racists or traitors this time your mellowing with age thank god Traitors you say ? Nice bit of revisionism https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1183378/Brexit-News-update-latest-Boris-Johnson-vote-Remain-leave-Today-Programme/ampyes traitor Lionel he called us that many times and much worse but like I said he’s mellowed now so all’s good " As I recall it was remainers who were branded as traitors. There was even a suggest that gove wanted to boot out any remainers from the civil service Almost stalinesque. | |||
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"Is it worth having a discussion on this, with reasonable points of information that may be of interest? Okay.... ONS figures Exports uk to Eu down £5.6 Billion... or 40.7% Exports of food and live animals down 63.6%... just as well Chris is eating all those extra lobster UK GDP shrink by 2.9%" Facts without proper reasons are stupid | |||
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"Is it worth having a discussion on this, with reasonable points of information that may be of interest? Okay.... ONS figures Exports uk to Eu down £5.6 Billion... or 40.7% Exports of food and live animals down 63.6%... just as well Chris is eating all those extra lobster UK GDP shrink by 2.9%Facts without proper reasons are stupid" What's the figures for EU selling to the UK. They seem to be missing from the statement. | |||
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"True believers of the cult of Brexit will never, ever admit that any future economic issue is down to Brexit. Brexit was a creation of a mindset that needed to blame the EU for the failings of our own country. It stands to reason therefore that true adherence to the cult means that future Brexit failings will be laid at the door of... The EU for being bully’s The EU for being inflexible Coronavirus for destroying our economy Remainers (or anyone) who didn’t back Brexit Jeremy Corbyn for being Jeremy Corbyn Joe Biden for being Joe Biden Admitting that Brexit is an unpolishable turd can never be admitted to. “All is well, all is well... and the band played on.”atleast you never called leavers racists or traitors this time your mellowing with age thank god Traitors you say ? Nice bit of revisionism https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1183378/Brexit-News-update-latest-Boris-Johnson-vote-Remain-leave-Today-Programme/ampyes traitor Lionel he called us that many times and much worse but like I said he’s mellowed now so all’s good As I recall it was remainers who were branded as traitors. There was even a suggest that gove wanted to boot out any remainers from the civil service Almost stalinesque. " ffs Lionel ya tool I’m talking about the guy who I responded to fuck gove ffs | |||
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"True believers of the cult of Brexit will never, ever admit that any future economic issue is down to Brexit. Brexit was a creation of a mindset that needed to blame the EU for the failings of our own country. It stands to reason therefore that true adherence to the cult means that future Brexit failings will be laid at the door of... The EU for being bully’s The EU for being inflexible Coronavirus for destroying our economy Remainers (or anyone) who didn’t back Brexit Jeremy Corbyn for being Jeremy Corbyn Joe Biden for being Joe Biden Admitting that Brexit is an unpolishable turd can never be admitted to. “All is well, all is well... and the band played on.”atleast you never called leavers racists or traitors this time your mellowing with age thank god Traitors you say ? Nice bit of revisionism https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1183378/Brexit-News-update-latest-Boris-Johnson-vote-Remain-leave-Today-Programme/ampyes traitor Lionel he called us that many times and much worse but like I said he’s mellowed now so all’s good As I recall it was remainers who were branded as traitors. There was even a suggest that gove wanted to boot out any remainers from the civil service Almost stalinesque. ffs Lionel ya tool I’m talking about the guy who I responded to fuck gove ffs " yeah lionel ffs lol sorry, couldnt resist | |||
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"True believers of the cult of Brexit will never, ever admit that any future economic issue is down to Brexit. Brexit was a creation of a mindset that needed to blame the EU for the failings of our own country. It stands to reason therefore that true adherence to the cult means that future Brexit failings will be laid at the door of... The EU for being bully’s The EU for being inflexible Coronavirus for destroying our economy Remainers (or anyone) who didn’t back Brexit Jeremy Corbyn for being Jeremy Corbyn Joe Biden for being Joe Biden Admitting that Brexit is an unpolishable turd can never be admitted to. “All is well, all is well... and the band played on.”atleast you never called leavers racists or traitors this time your mellowing with age thank god Traitors you say ? Nice bit of revisionism https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1183378/Brexit-News-update-latest-Boris-Johnson-vote-Remain-leave-Today-Programme/ampyes traitor Lionel he called us that many times and much worse but like I said he’s mellowed now so all’s good As I recall it was remainers who were branded as traitors. There was even a suggest that gove wanted to boot out any remainers from the civil service Almost stalinesque. ffs Lionel ya tool I’m talking about the guy who I responded to fuck gove ffs yeah lionel ffs lol sorry, couldnt resist "pmsl | |||
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"True believers of the cult of Brexit will never, ever admit that any future economic issue is down to Brexit. Brexit was a creation of a mindset that needed to blame the EU for the failings of our own country. It stands to reason therefore that true adherence to the cult means that future Brexit failings will be laid at the door of... The EU for being bully’s The EU for being inflexible Coronavirus for destroying our economy Remainers (or anyone) who didn’t back Brexit Jeremy Corbyn for being Jeremy Corbyn Joe Biden for being Joe Biden Admitting that Brexit is an unpolishable turd can never be admitted to. “All is well, all is well... and the band played on.”atleast you never called leavers racists or traitors this time your mellowing with age thank god Traitors you say ? Nice bit of revisionism https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1183378/Brexit-News-update-latest-Boris-Johnson-vote-Remain-leave-Today-Programme/ampyes traitor Lionel he called us that many times and much worse but like I said he’s mellowed now so all’s good As I recall it was remainers who were branded as traitors. There was even a suggest that gove wanted to boot out any remainers from the civil service Almost stalinesque. " You are absolutely correct. Hence my assertion a few years ago that it was actually the Brexiters who were traitors for wilfully wishing economic harm on the country and doing nothing to stop it. Unfortunately some Brexiters are so thin-skinned they get so triggered by the truth being fired back at them that they bring the same shit up years, and years later. Stand by and wait for reference to the great unwashed, chavs, oiks and riff-raff. | |||
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"True believers of the cult of Brexit will never, ever admit that any future economic issue is down to Brexit. Brexit was a creation of a mindset that needed to blame the EU for the failings of our own country. It stands to reason therefore that true adherence to the cult means that future Brexit failings will be laid at the door of... The EU for being bully’s The EU for being inflexible Coronavirus for destroying our economy Remainers (or anyone) who didn’t back Brexit Jeremy Corbyn for being Jeremy Corbyn Joe Biden for being Joe Biden Admitting that Brexit is an unpolishable turd can never be admitted to. “All is well, all is well... and the band played on.”atleast you never called leavers racists or traitors this time your mellowing with age thank god Traitors you say ? Nice bit of revisionism https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1183378/Brexit-News-update-latest-Boris-Johnson-vote-Remain-leave-Today-Programme/ampyes traitor Lionel he called us that many times and much worse but like I said he’s mellowed now so all’s good As I recall it was remainers who were branded as traitors. There was even a suggest that gove wanted to boot out any remainers from the civil service Almost stalinesque. You are absolutely correct. Hence my assertion a few years ago that it was actually the Brexiters who were traitors for wilfully wishing economic harm on the country and doing nothing to stop it. Unfortunately some Brexiters are so thin-skinned they get so triggered by the truth being fired back at them that they bring the same shit up years, and years later. Stand by and wait for reference to the great unwashed, chavs, oiks and riff-raff." aw mate thank you for finally coming clean only took you two yrs lol I could take all the names you called me but the one that pissed me off big style was racist but so what in yr eyes I’m thin skinned but respect to ya you owned it wish more had yr balls | |||
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"True believers of the cult of Brexit will never, ever admit that any future economic issue is down to Brexit. Brexit was a creation of a mindset that needed to blame the EU for the failings of our own country. It stands to reason therefore that true adherence to the cult means that future Brexit failings will be laid at the door of... The EU for being bully’s The EU for being inflexible Coronavirus for destroying our economy Remainers (or anyone) who didn’t back Brexit Jeremy Corbyn for being Jeremy Corbyn Joe Biden for being Joe Biden Admitting that Brexit is an unpolishable turd can never be admitted to. “All is well, all is well... and the band played on.” If brexit don't work I'll buy you a drink, but I don't think we'll know for around 5 to 10 years, we certainly can't tell in a few months lol But the eu are bullies Jeremy was a fence sitter Joe biden is Jeremy with an American accent And covid certainly isn't helping the economy, is it? Lol "I can tell you it’s costing Uk business a lot of money so no it’s definitely not working so far and definitely not smooth seamless trade. We have been sold a dud. | |||
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"True believers of the cult of Brexit will never, ever admit that any future economic issue is down to Brexit. Brexit was a creation of a mindset that needed to blame the EU for the failings of our own country. It stands to reason therefore that true adherence to the cult means that future Brexit failings will be laid at the door of... The EU for being bully’s The EU for being inflexible Coronavirus for destroying our economy Remainers (or anyone) who didn’t back Brexit Jeremy Corbyn for being Jeremy Corbyn Joe Biden for being Joe Biden Admitting that Brexit is an unpolishable turd can never be admitted to. “All is well, all is well... and the band played on.” If brexit don't work I'll buy you a drink, but I don't think we'll know for around 5 to 10 years, we certainly can't tell in a few months lol But the eu are bullies Jeremy was a fence sitter Joe biden is Jeremy with an American accent And covid certainly isn't helping the economy, is it? Lol
I can tell you it’s costing Uk business a lot of money so no it’s definitely not working so far and definitely not smooth seamless trade. We have been sold a dud. "Businesses will always bounce back just like the uk, they estimate £180 billion pounds has been saved by people during the pandemic.Rick stein says he has had 20,000 bookings in the last 2 weeks alone so it looks like there will be a big bounce back. | |||
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"True believers of the cult of Brexit will never, ever admit that any future economic issue is down to Brexit. Brexit was a creation of a mindset that needed to blame the EU for the failings of our own country. It stands to reason therefore that true adherence to the cult means that future Brexit failings will be laid at the door of... The EU for being bully’s The EU for being inflexible Coronavirus for destroying our economy Remainers (or anyone) who didn’t back Brexit Jeremy Corbyn for being Jeremy Corbyn Joe Biden for being Joe Biden Admitting that Brexit is an unpolishable turd can never be admitted to. “All is well, all is well... and the band played on.” If brexit don't work I'll buy you a drink, but I don't think we'll know for around 5 to 10 years, we certainly can't tell in a few months lol But the eu are bullies Jeremy was a fence sitter Joe biden is Jeremy with an American accent And covid certainly isn't helping the economy, is it? Lol
I can tell you it’s costing Uk business a lot of money so no it’s definitely not working so far and definitely not smooth seamless trade. We have been sold a dud. Businesses will always bounce back just like the uk, they estimate £180 billion pounds has been saved by people during the pandemic.Rick stein says he has had 20,000 bookings in the last 2 weeks alone so it looks like there will be a big bounce back. "Totally agree there will be hoards of people rushing out to enjoy life and I’m delighted about that. Cottage rental prices are ridiculous down there at the min. The Covid virus has cost a lot of jobs so not everyone will be rushing to spend sadly. The cost to business to export is nothing to do with people eating in Cornwall. We will still trade but it will be harder to compete as transport costs have gone up both ways and customs costs and delays are adding stupid costs. Result things are harder to export and stuff we import will cost more. Economics says that’s going to hurt both now and in the long run. We should have stayed in the customs union. The deals we are replicating show no benefit over this. I’m watching the Liberty steel thing with interest as this will be a test of the level playing field agreement Boris made. | |||
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"So it seems many are saying this drop is due to brexit. If in the months to come things get better what will that be down to? " The office for national statistics is saying it's due to brexit. If there is an upturn, I'll look at what the office for national statistics says, for a fair comparison. | |||
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"So it seems many are saying this drop is due to brexit. If in the months to come things get better what will that be down to? The office for national statistics is saying it's due to brexit. If there is an upturn, I'll look at what the office for national statistics says, for a fair comparison." Where does it say that in the ons report? https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/economicoutputandproductivity/output/articles/ukeconomylatest/2021-01-25 | |||
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