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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

EU blocks export of Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine doses to Australia

The European Commission has blocked the export of Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine doses produced in Italy and destined for Australia.

Two sources told Reuters about the move, which comes after the drug manufacturer failed to meet its EU contract commitments.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

Is the vaccine that some EU countries were sceptical about?

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"Is the vaccine that some EU countries were sceptical about?

"

That's the one.

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

Breaking other peoples deals to ensure that it's own is done first.

So out of character.

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By *ssexbloke72Man
over a year ago

Poplar


"Breaking other peoples deals to ensure that it's own is done first.

So out of character. "

Is that not against international law?

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"Breaking other peoples deals to ensure that it's own is done first.

So out of character.

Is that not against international law?"

There is going to be some sort of Legal Response I would guess.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

EMA have started the first stage of rolling review on the Russian SputnikV vaccine.

Would be interested in seeing the terms of that contract...

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"EMA have started the first stage of rolling review on the Russian SputnikV vaccine.

Would be interested in seeing the terms of that contract..."

If only they had stopped accusing the UK of rushing, when in fact we were proved sooooooo right . . . they could have been up and running a long time ago.

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

But like Kier Starmer - I want the Hindsight now lol.

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

At least the U.K. will not be dragged into the argument as we are no longer part of the EU

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"EMA have started the first stage of rolling review on the Russian SputnikV vaccine.

Would be interested in seeing the terms of that contract...

If only they had stopped accusing the UK of rushing, when in fact we were proved sooooooo right . . . they could have been up and running a long time ago."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-55177948

Didnt realise Anthony fauci worked for the eu.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

signed off by the eu commission under a new export control law and the 1st time its been used. If only they had listened to the uk in the 1st place.

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By *etro1940sCouple
over a year ago

Kingston upon Thames

Thousands of Aussies in CWGC plots across Europe ... and a country that took in over 600,000 refugees and displaced persons when few wanted them between 1945-1952; equivalent to 3 million today. Not right by any measure.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

How is our death rate comparing with our European friends,?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

Maybe the uk can send them some if we are producing enough after all they will be one of our main trading partners when we join the trans pacific agreement.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

Some of the European death rates are lower than UK, we know this - so what has this to do with the EU blocking an export of vaccine to Australia?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Some of the European death rates are lower than UK, we know this - so what has this to do with the EU blocking an export of vaccine to Australia?

"

I just wandered where does this all..we told you so/should have listened to us..point scoring fit in with trivilialities ,like how mamy people have actually died?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Some of the European death rates are lower than UK, we know this - so what has this to do with the EU blocking an export of vaccine to Australia?

"

Absolutely nothing as usual.

just a heads up the 2023 rwc tickets go on sale 15th march.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Some of the European death rates are lower than UK, we know this - so what has this to do with the EU blocking an export of vaccine to Australia?

"

I notice you didnt ask what kier starmer has to do with the EU blocking the vaccine to Australia ..perhaps you could explain the connection?

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"Some of the European death rates are lower than UK, we know this - so what has this to do with the EU blocking an export of vaccine to Australia?

Absolutely nothing as usual.

just a heads up the 2023 rwc tickets go on sale 15th march. "

Hmmmm ... it's in France. How long can we stay in Europe before we have to leave??? (.... I'll save you the trouble of posting your reply to this.... yes I know I won't need to be there longer than the group stage )

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Some of the European death rates are lower than UK, we know this - so what has this to do with the EU blocking an export of vaccine to Australia?

Absolutely nothing as usual.

just a heads up the 2023 rwc tickets go on sale 15th march.

Hmmmm ... it's in France. How long can we stay in Europe before we have to leave??? (.... I'll save you the trouble of posting your reply to this.... yes I know I won't need to be there longer than the group stage )

"

we will be though lets hope france have subsidised the tunnel by then.

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

Lionel this post is about the EU stopping exports of the vaccine from Italy to Australia.

PLEASE STICK TO THE THREAD.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Lionel this post is about the EU stopping exports of the vaccine from Italy to Australia.

PLEASE STICK TO THE THREAD. "

And what is kier starmers role in this exactly?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lionel this post is about the EU stopping exports of the vaccine from Italy to Australia.

PLEASE STICK TO THE THREAD. "

You've got no hope

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lionel this post is about the EU stopping exports of the vaccine from Italy to Australia.

PLEASE STICK TO THE THREAD.

And what is kier starmers role in this exactly?"

He was used in reference to hindsight. No one said he had anything to do with this. I do wish you would learn to read

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lionel this post is about the EU stopping exports of the vaccine from Italy to Australia.

PLEASE STICK TO THE THREAD. "

He cant help himself.he moans about others using the whataboutry card yet this is his subtle way of bringing it out himself

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

Lionel this post is about the EU stopping exports of the vaccine from Italy to Australia.

PLEASE STICK TO THE THREAD

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over a year ago

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Lionel this post is about the EU stopping exports of the vaccine from Italy to Australia.

PLEASE STICK TO THE THREAD.

And what is kier starmers role in this exactly?

He was used in reference to hindsight. No one said he had anything to do with this. I do wish you would learn to read"

Priceless

I'll let the cosy little clique get on with your desperate point scoring.

Enjoy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lionel this post is about the EU stopping exports of the vaccine from Italy to Australia.

PLEASE STICK TO THE THREAD.

And what is kier starmers role in this exactly?

He was used in reference to hindsight. No one said he had anything to do with this. I do wish you would learn to read

Priceless

I'll let the cosy little clique get on with your desperate point scoring.

Enjoy

"

This is about world politics not point scoring. However, see ya

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

TY.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"Lionel this post is about the EU stopping exports of the vaccine from Italy to Australia.

PLEASE STICK TO THE THREAD.

And what is kier starmers role in this exactly?

He was used in reference to hindsight. No one said he had anything to do with this. I do wish you would learn to read

Priceless

I'll let the cosy little clique get on with your desperate point scoring.

Enjoy

"

Doesn't it make you think about what the EU are doing blocking an export of vaccine to Australia?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"EMA have started the first stage of rolling review on the Russian SputnikV vaccine.

Would be interested in seeing the terms of that contract...

If only they had stopped accusing the UK of rushing, when in fact we were proved sooooooo right . . . they could have been up and running a long time ago."

This isnt about point scoring

Epic

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

Only YOU is saying it is.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Lionel this post is about the EU stopping exports of the vaccine from Italy to Australia.

PLEASE STICK TO THE THREAD.

And what is kier starmers role in this exactly?

He was used in reference to hindsight. No one said he had anything to do with this. I do wish you would learn to read

Priceless

I'll let the cosy little clique get on with your desperate point scoring.

Enjoy

Doesn't it make you think about what the EU are doing blocking an export of vaccine to Australia?

"

The eu have made numerous mistakes regarding the rollout.

They have been appalling

But if you expect any sort of balanced assessment on the eu on here,you havent been paying attention.

Because if the uk were doing what the eu are doing now I absolutely guarantee their fan club on here would be defending them.

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By *untwolancashireCouple
over a year ago

Preston


"How is our death rate comparing with our European friends,?"

Have you heard of a county called Belgium or Slovenia Lionel x

& if your so sick you need to keep using death rates in this way at least get it right. Yes I am fucking offended by it Lionel, you or anyone using it, I’ve just lost another close friend to covid this week, that’s 2 so far to Covid not because of it, both where under 50 & healthy until they got it. Please can we stop it & show respect for those that have died & the people who have & are affected by the loss of a loved one x

Until all the data is recorded & collated in the same way we will never know if we truly have the highest death rate or just the most honest way of recording it. X

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"Lionel this post is about the EU stopping exports of the vaccine from Italy to Australia.

PLEASE STICK TO THE THREAD.

And what is kier starmers role in this exactly?

He was used in reference to hindsight. No one said he had anything to do with this. I do wish you would learn to read

Priceless

I'll let the cosy little clique get on with your desperate point scoring.

Enjoy

Doesn't it make you think about what the EU are doing blocking an export of vaccine to Australia?

The eu have made numerous mistakes regarding the rollout.

They have been appalling

But if you expect any sort of balanced assessment on the eu on here,you havent been paying attention.

Because if the uk were doing what the eu are doing now I absolutely guarantee their fan club on here would be defending them."

fan club on here wtf we are British why would t we be a fan of where we live I’m proud to be British I’m sad for you that your not mate

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"How is our death rate comparing with our European friends,?

Have you heard of a county called Belgium or Slovenia Lionel x

& if your so sick you need to keep using death rates in this way at least get it right. Yes I am fucking offended by it Lionel, you or anyone using it, I’ve just lost another close friend to covid this week, that’s 2 so far to Covid not because of it, both where under 50 & healthy until they got it. Please can we stop it & show respect for those that have died & the people who have & are affected by the loss of a loved one x

Until all the data is recorded & collated in the same way we will never know if we truly have the highest death rate or just the most honest way of recording it. X"

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

21 million UK vaccinated. The EU criticising the UK for approving vaccines. Stopping other countries from getting the vaccines they have legally ordered.

Stop arguing that the Sun shines out of the EU's arse. It obviously doesn't as those facts prove.

You are the poster child for the EU no matter what they do.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"21 million UK vaccinated. The EU criticising the UK for approving vaccines. Stopping other countries from getting the vaccines they have legally ordered.

Stop arguing that the Sun shines out of the EU's arse. It obviously doesn't as those facts prove.

You are the poster child for the EU no matter what they do.

"

You obviously missed the bit where I said they had acted appallingly.

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By *untwolancashireCouple
over a year ago

Preston


"21 million UK vaccinated. The EU criticising the UK for approving vaccines. Stopping other countries from getting the vaccines they have legally ordered.

Stop arguing that the Sun shines out of the EU's arse. It obviously doesn't as those facts prove.

You are the poster child for the EU no matter what they do.

"

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"How is our death rate comparing with our European friends,?

Have you heard of a county called Belgium or Slovenia Lionel x

& if your so sick you need to keep using death rates in this way at least get it right. Yes I am fucking offended by it Lionel, you or anyone using it, I’ve just lost another close friend to covid this week, that’s 2 so far to Covid not because of it, both where under 50 & healthy until they got it. Please can we stop it & show respect for those that have died & the people who have & are affected by the loss of a loved one x

Until all the data is recorded & collated in the same way we will never know if we truly have the highest death rate or just the most honest way of recording it. X"

I am sorry for your loss but we have all known people who have died.

Are you forgetting that we used to compare our figures on a daily basis?

This used to happen..that is a fact.

Its also a fact that the ultimate test..of how a country has handled the pandemic will be,sadly,the numbers who have lost their lives.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"21 million UK vaccinated. The EU criticising the UK for approving vaccines. Stopping other countries from getting the vaccines they have legally ordered.

Stop arguing that the Sun shines out of the EU's arse. It obviously doesn't as those facts prove.

You are the poster child for the EU no matter what they do.

"

See above and try actually reading what I said

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"Lionel this post is about the EU stopping exports of the vaccine from Italy to Australia.

PLEASE STICK TO THE THREAD.

And what is kier starmers role in this exactly?

He was used in reference to hindsight. No one said he had anything to do with this. I do wish you would learn to read

Priceless

I'll let the cosy little clique get on with your desperate point scoring.

Enjoy

Doesn't it make you think about what the EU are doing blocking an export of vaccine to Australia?

The eu have made numerous mistakes regarding the rollout.

They have been appalling

But if you expect any sort of balanced assessment on the eu on here,you havent been paying attention.

Because if the uk were doing what the eu are doing now I absolutely guarantee their fan club on here would be defending them."

Do you think the Australian government will view this action favourably? do you think it could have an effect on Australian companies thinking twice about setting up in EU.

Do you think this type of action by the EU is seen favourably by any other countries who have ordered vaccine from AZ, are they perhaps now a little concerned if their shipment might be blocked?

How do you think the conversation will go between AZ and the Australian government and/or between AZ and the EU/Italy?

These seem like much more productive questions/points of discussion?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Lionel this post is about the EU stopping exports of the vaccine from Italy to Australia.

PLEASE STICK TO THE THREAD.

And what is kier starmers role in this exactly?

He was used in reference to hindsight. No one said he had anything to do with this. I do wish you would learn to read

Priceless

I'll let the cosy little clique get on with your desperate point scoring.

Enjoy

Doesn't it make you think about what the EU are doing blocking an export of vaccine to Australia?

The eu have made numerous mistakes regarding the rollout.

They have been appalling

But if you expect any sort of balanced assessment on the eu on here,you havent been paying attention.

Because if the uk were doing what the eu are doing now I absolutely guarantee their fan club on here would be defending them.

Do you think the Australian government will view this action favourably? do you think it could have an effect on Australian companies thinking twice about setting up in EU.

Do you think this type of action by the EU is seen favourably by any other countries who have ordered vaccine from AZ, are they perhaps now a little concerned if their shipment might be blocked?

How do you think the conversation will go between AZ and the Australian government and/or between AZ and the EU/Italy?

These seem like much more productive questions/points of discussion?

"

Have all the EU countries done it or is just italy?

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By *ssexbloke72Man
over a year ago

Poplar

It's all very puzzling considering the fact that due to Macron and Merkel nobody in the EU wants the AZ vaccine!

What are they planning on doing with it all?

Store it in a basement with all the other AZ vaccine they will not use?

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By *eanoCoolMan
over a year ago

wisbech


"How is our death rate comparing with our European friends,?

Have you heard of a county called Belgium or Slovenia Lionel x

& if your so sick you need to keep using death rates in this way at least get it right. Yes I am fucking offended by it Lionel, you or anyone using it, I’ve just lost another close friend to covid this week, that’s 2 so far to Covid not because of it, both where under 50 & healthy until they got it. Please can we stop it & show respect for those that have died & the people who have & are affected by the loss of a loved one x

Until all the data is recorded & collated in the same way we will never know if we truly have the highest death rate or just the most honest way of recording it. X"

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"

Do you think the Australian government will view this action favourably? do you think it could have an effect on Australian companies thinking twice about setting up in EU.

Do you think this type of action by the EU is seen favourably by any other countries who have ordered vaccine from AZ, are they perhaps now a little concerned if their shipment might be blocked?

How do you think the conversation will go between AZ and the Australian government and/or between AZ and the EU/Italy?

These seem like much more productive questions/points of discussion?

"

Too many times already we have seen the EU acting in very self-interested ways. We approved the 'equivalence deal' very early on, and they are yet to even discuss their end of the deal seriously never mind approve it.

The EU were the first to break the Irish Deal.

They threatened to stop Legal Contracts of the vaccine to the UK from Belgium. Until of course they realised that we would just make it all in the UK and then probably stop exporting it to the EU. Australia don't have that ability (yet) maybe they will seek exports directly from the UK or manufacture under licence from AZ or another vaccine manufacturer.

Members of the EU tried to make separate deals outside of the agreed EU terms.

'Where it suits' - is not a proper, and will prove even a Legal, way of doing business.

All this is not what the rest of the World would consider as good business practice and would, in my opinion, have others act very warily of dealing with them now and in the future.

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"

Have all the EU countries done it or is just italy?"

Approved by the EU.

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By *ssexbloke72Man
over a year ago

Poplar


"Lionel this post is about the EU stopping exports of the vaccine from Italy to Australia.

PLEASE STICK TO THE THREAD.

And what is kier starmers role in this exactly?

He was used in reference to hindsight. No one said he had anything to do with this. I do wish you would learn to read

Priceless

I'll let the cosy little clique get on with your desperate point scoring.

Enjoy

Doesn't it make you think about what the EU are doing blocking an export of vaccine to Australia?

The eu have made numerous mistakes regarding the rollout.

They have been appalling

But if you expect any sort of balanced assessment on the eu on here,you havent been paying attention.

Because if the uk were doing what the eu are doing now I absolutely guarantee their fan club on here would be defending them.

Do you think the Australian government will view this action favourably? do you think it could have an effect on Australian companies thinking twice about setting up in EU.

Do you think this type of action by the EU is seen favourably by any other countries who have ordered vaccine from AZ, are they perhaps now a little concerned if their shipment might be blocked?

How do you think the conversation will go between AZ and the Australian government and/or between AZ and the EU/Italy?

These seem like much more productive questions/points of discussion?

Have all the EU countries done it or is just italy?"

The EU made a law in January to stop the export of vaccine made in the EU to any country outside of the EU.

Even if it was ordered, bought and paid for before the law was made up.

Italy recently asked the EU to use this new law to stop the export of vaccine to Australia.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some of the European death rates are lower than UK, we know this - so what has this to do with the EU blocking an export of vaccine to Australia?

Absolutely nothing as usual.

just a heads up the 2023 rwc tickets go on sale 15th march. "

I am hoping to get a couple of tickets, spend a few nights in Cannes,

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Lionel this post is about the EU stopping exports of the vaccine from Italy to Australia.

PLEASE STICK TO THE THREAD.

And what is kier starmers role in this exactly?

He was used in reference to hindsight. No one said he had anything to do with this. I do wish you would learn to read

Priceless

I'll let the cosy little clique get on with your desperate point scoring.

Enjoy

Doesn't it make you think about what the EU are doing blocking an export of vaccine to Australia?

The eu have made numerous mistakes regarding the rollout.

They have been appalling

But if you expect any sort of balanced assessment on the eu on here,you havent been paying attention.

Because if the uk were doing what the eu are doing now I absolutely guarantee their fan club on here would be defending them.

Do you think the Australian government will view this action favourably? do you think it could have an effect on Australian companies thinking twice about setting up in EU.

Do you think this type of action by the EU is seen favourably by any other countries who have ordered vaccine from AZ, are they perhaps now a little concerned if their shipment might be blocked?

How do you think the conversation will go between AZ and the Australian government and/or between AZ and the EU/Italy?

These seem like much more productive questions/points of discussion?

Have all the EU countries done it or is just italy?

The EU made a law in January to stop the export of vaccine made in the EU to any country outside of the EU.

Even if it was ordered, bought and paid for before the law was made up.

Italy recently asked the EU to use this new law to stop the export of vaccine to Australia. "

They just made a law up?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lionel this post is about the EU stopping exports of the vaccine from Italy to Australia.

PLEASE STICK TO THE THREAD. "

Have they broken a previously signed agreement?

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"

They just made a law up?"

Yea. How about that hey? Any time they want, they can say go fook yourselves.

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"Lionel this post is about the EU stopping exports of the vaccine from Italy to Australia.

PLEASE STICK TO THE THREAD.

Have they broken a previously signed agreement? "

Yes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lionel this post is about the EU stopping exports of the vaccine from Italy to Australia.

PLEASE STICK TO THE THREAD.

Have they broken a previously signed agreement?

Yes."

That’s ok, it happens all the time? Doesn’t it?

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"Lionel this post is about the EU stopping exports of the vaccine from Italy to Australia.

PLEASE STICK TO THE THREAD.

Have they broken a previously signed agreement?

Yes.

That’s ok, it happens all the time? Doesn’t it? "

Over crayons in a classroom yes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lionel this post is about the EU stopping exports of the vaccine from Italy to Australia.

PLEASE STICK TO THE THREAD.

Have they broken a previously signed agreement?

Yes.

That’s ok, it happens all the time? Doesn’t it?

Over crayons in a classroom yes."

Whoever breaks an agreement should be rightly criticised, the EU have made a complete mess of the vaccine and this latest move looks really bad.

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"Lionel this post is about the EU stopping exports of the vaccine from Italy to Australia.

PLEASE STICK TO THE THREAD.

Have they broken a previously signed agreement?

Yes.

That’s ok, it happens all the time? Doesn’t it?

Over crayons in a classroom yes.

Whoever breaks an agreement should be rightly criticised, the EU have made a complete mess of the vaccine and this latest move looks really bad. "

#

So? Just rightly criticised, haven't I? TY for your support.

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

So too quote myself . . .

Too many times already we have seen the EU acting in very self-interested ways. We approved the 'equivalence deal' very early on, and they are yet to even discuss their end of the deal seriously never mind approve it.

The EU were the first to break the Irish Deal.

They threatened to stop Legal Contracts of the vaccine to the UK from Belgium. Until of course they realised that we would just make it all in the UK and then probably stop exporting it to the EU. Australia don't have that ability (yet) maybe they will seek exports directly from the UK or manufacture under licence from AZ or another vaccine manufacturer.

Members of the EU tried to make separate deals outside of the agreed EU terms.

'Where it suits' - is not a proper, and will prove even a Legal, way of doing business.

All this is not what the rest of the World would consider as good business practice and would, in my opinion, have others act very warily of dealing with them now and in the future.

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By *e CapCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

Looks like AstraZeneca wants to sell first to whoever pays more. Played soft until got the safety badge from UK then “show me the money “! At least Phizer played dirty from the beginning. Let’s not forget that this companies are in the business of selling drugs not curing people .

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By *rRightlyMan
over a year ago

Near Brexit dreamer

I love being part of EU. And this is prime example why. All the small countries could not fight back against big pharma, but EU can. Try to mess with EU and you will get fucked. That's why Brexiteers here are constantly whinging about EU. They want EU split, because UK against small EU countries - easy. UK against EU bloc - UK gets fucked. Simple as that.

AZ signed the contract with EU, then got higher paying contracts with other countries without calculating their production numbers. Tried to cut off EU vaccines for higher profit while breaching the contract. However they didint calculate that they will get fucked by EU.

Brexiteers can try circle jerking all day they want, but EU is not splitting up any time soon. And this is prime example why. Stronger together

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

I believe that the AZ vaccine is a set price. Transport costs may vary but they have stated that they won't seek to make any profits on it for several months.

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By *andy 1Couple
over a year ago

northeast


"So too quote myself . . .

Too many times already we have seen the EU acting in very self-interested ways. We approved the 'equivalence deal' very early on, and they are yet to even discuss their end of the deal seriously never mind approve it.

The EU were the first to break the Irish Deal.

They threatened to stop Legal Contracts of the vaccine to the UK from Belgium. Until of course they realised that we would just make it all in the UK and then probably stop exporting it to the EU. Australia don't have that ability (yet) maybe they will seek exports directly from the UK or manufacture under licence from AZ or another vaccine manufacturer.

Members of the EU tried to make separate deals outside of the agreed EU terms.

'Where it suits' - is not a proper, and will prove even a Legal, way of doing business.

All this is not what the rest of the World would consider as good business practice and would, in my opinion, have others act very warily of dealing with them now and in the future."

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Some of the European death rates are lower than UK, we know this - so what has this to do with the EU blocking an export of vaccine to Australia?

Absolutely nothing as usual.

just a heads up the 2023 rwc tickets go on sale 15th march.

I am hoping to get a couple of tickets, spend a few nights in Cannes, "

we will have to meet up for a few beers then mate as i will be there probably stay in Nice though

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

If this was England doing this we would be running up the flag and blasting out god save the queen while saying how well done we did protecting our own interests.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"If this was England doing this we would be running up the flag and blasting out god save the queen while saying how well done we did protecting our own interests. "
If it was England doing it you can imagine what all the pro eu posters on here would be saying.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks


"If this was England doing this we would be running up the flag and blasting out god save the queen while saying how well done we did protecting our own interests. If it was England doing it you can imagine what all the pro eu posters on here would be saying. "

Yup I can hear the screeching now.

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By *or Fox SakeCouple
over a year ago

Thornaby


"If this was England doing this we would be running up the flag and blasting out god save the queen while saying how well done we did protecting our own interests. If it was England doing it you can imagine what all the pro eu posters on here would be saying. "

they'd be saying AZ needs to fulfill its contractual obligations or face the consequences

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

Not a great story in Australia.

They already have 300000 AZ doses, and will start domestic production this month.

They have asked the EU to review the decision.

Also helps that they aren't rife with infections down there.

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By *ssexbloke72Man
over a year ago

Poplar

Without guessing or making things up (take note Lionel), does anyone actually know when Australia signed up to have the AZ vaccine?

We know the EU was a good three months behind the UK so did Australia order before the EU?

Also we know the EU have already said they don't believe in queues or the first come first served situation.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"Without guessing or making things up (take note Lionel), does anyone actually know when Australia signed up to have the AZ vaccine?

We know the EU was a good three months behind the UK so did Australia order before the EU?

Also we know the EU have already said they don't believe in queues or the first come first served situation. "

OZ signed 11 days before EU.

I think the Australians are not that bothered to be honest. I think the optics are far worse for the EU than the actual outcome.

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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago

milton keynes


"I believe that the AZ vaccine is a set price. Transport costs may vary but they have stated that they won't seek to make any profits on it for several months. "

Very likely though not totally sure. I have heard AZ is much cheaper than Pfizer though. Seems an odd situation in that EU countries were talking down AZ to the point that their population not being keen to have it. Now they stop shipments to Oz. Bit of we don't want it but not going to let you have it going on. I can see long term implications in that for future vaccines, countries outside the EU will not be placing orders with EU companies for fear of a similar situation

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"I believe that the AZ vaccine is a set price. Transport costs may vary but they have stated that they won't seek to make any profits on it for several months.

Very likely though not totally sure. I have heard AZ is much cheaper than Pfizer though. Seems an odd situation in that EU countries were talking down AZ to the point that their population not being keen to have it. Now they stop shipments to Oz. Bit of we don't want it but not going to let you have it going on. I can see long term implications in that for future vaccines, countries outside the EU will not be placing orders with EU companies for fear of a similar situation"

AZ is a fifth of the cost of Pfizer.

Maybe France and Germany were rather hoping that their own vaccines would arrive before AZ became the game changer

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By *ssexbloke72Man
over a year ago

Poplar


"Without guessing or making things up (take note Lionel), does anyone actually know when Australia signed up to have the AZ vaccine?

We know the EU was a good three months behind the UK so did Australia order before the EU?

Also we know the EU have already said they don't believe in queues or the first come first served situation.

OZ signed 11 days before EU.

I think the Australians are not that bothered to be honest. I think the optics are far worse for the EU than the actual outcome."

So basically they have the attitude of we don't care you ordered it first we are not letting you have it.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

Is this eu wide yet or is is still just Italy?

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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago

milton keynes


"I believe that the AZ vaccine is a set price. Transport costs may vary but they have stated that they won't seek to make any profits on it for several months.

Very likely though not totally sure. I have heard AZ is much cheaper than Pfizer though. Seems an odd situation in that EU countries were talking down AZ to the point that their population not being keen to have it. Now they stop shipments to Oz. Bit of we don't want it but not going to let you have it going on. I can see long term implications in that for future vaccines, countries outside the EU will not be placing orders with EU companies for fear of a similar situation

AZ is a fifth of the cost of Pfizer.

Maybe France and Germany were rather hoping that their own vaccines would arrive before AZ became the game changer "

Oh wow, I thought I heard it was cheaper but that's a very big difference indeed. Shame the EU are stopping others getting it but I fear such actions will not be forgotten quickly

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By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS
over a year ago

Notts


"I believe that the AZ vaccine is a set price. Transport costs may vary but they have stated that they won't seek to make any profits on it for several months.

Very likely though not totally sure. I have heard AZ is much cheaper than Pfizer though. Seems an odd situation in that EU countries were talking down AZ to the point that their population not being keen to have it. Now they stop shipments to Oz. Bit of we don't want it but not going to let you have it going on. I can see long term implications in that for future vaccines, countries outside the EU will not be placing orders with EU companies for fear of a similar situation

AZ is a fifth of the cost of Pfizer.

Maybe France and Germany were rather hoping that their own vaccines would arrive before AZ became the game changer

Oh wow, I thought I heard it was cheaper but that's a very big difference indeed. Shame the EU are stopping others getting it but I fear such actions will not be forgotten quickly"

thats what i thought, some bridge burning going on

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-australia-56290226

The fact that only 1 country have acted on the ban seems to be lost on some people.

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By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS
over a year ago

Notts

eu acts as one lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"EU blocks export of Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine doses to Australia

The European Commission has blocked the export of Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine doses produced in Italy and destined for Australia.

Two sources told Reuters about the move, which comes after the drug manufacturer failed to meet its EU contract commitments.

"

Well this would be the perfect opportunity for the UK to step up and deliver to our Australian allies? Don’t you think?

I swear Brexiteers are more about complaining about the EU even though we have left. They had the power to leave, ain’t got the power to tell those who wanted to leave to do the right thing.

Useless...

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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago

milton keynes


"EU blocks export of Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine doses to Australia

The European Commission has blocked the export of Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine doses produced in Italy and destined for Australia.

Two sources told Reuters about the move, which comes after the drug manufacturer failed to meet its EU contract commitments.

Well this would be the perfect opportunity for the UK to step up and deliver to our Australian allies? Don’t you think?

I swear Brexiteers are more about complaining about the EU even though we have left. They had the power to leave, ain’t got the power to tell those who wanted to leave to do the right thing.

Useless..."

Which would basically mean the EU taking vaccine from the UK if we have to send our own supplies. This is the EU actions causing the problems not the UK.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

Not verified yet, but there is reporting on skynews.au that the Australian national vaccine rollout can continue as "British authorities helped the nation resource coronavirus vaccines following Italy's ban of AstraZeneca exports to Australia"

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Not verified yet, but there is reporting on skynews.au that the Australian national vaccine rollout can continue as "British authorities helped the nation resource coronavirus vaccines following Italy's ban of AstraZeneca exports to Australia"

"

No surprise there then Britain doing what is right yet again.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"How is our death rate comparing with our European friends,?"

Much better than Belgium.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"How is our death rate comparing with our European friends,?

Much better than Belgium."

Fist bump

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"How is our death rate comparing with our European friends,?

Much better than Belgium."

Oh! And on latest 7 day average numbers better than Germany and France.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"How is our death rate comparing with our European friends,?

Much better than Belgium.

Oh! And on latest 7 day average numbers better than Germany and France."

So only the last 7 days matter?

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"How is our death rate comparing with our European friends,?

Much better than Belgium.

Oh! And on latest 7 day average numbers better than Germany and France.

So only the last 7 days matter?"

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"How is our death rate comparing with our European friends,?

Much better than Belgium.

Oh! And on latest 7 day average numbers better than Germany and France.

So only the last 7 days matter?"

Oh sorry if that inconvenient fact doesn't quite suit your agenda.

What it does show is what the British governments action is achieving today compared to the others. Rather than in the distant past when pretty much everybody got it wrong.

Currently Britain is doing better on infection and death rates than a ruck of EU countries.

Yes including Germany, France, and Italy.

Sorry mate but it looks like the Tories are actually doing a decent job

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol


"I believe that the AZ vaccine is a set price. Transport costs may vary but they have stated that they won't seek to make any profits on it for several months.

Very likely though not totally sure. I have heard AZ is much cheaper than Pfizer though. Seems an odd situation in that EU countries were talking down AZ to the point that their population not being keen to have it. Now they stop shipments to Oz. Bit of we don't want it but not going to let you have it going on. I can see long term implications in that for future vaccines, countries outside the EU will not be placing orders with EU companies for fear of a similar situation

AZ is a fifth of the cost of Pfizer.

Maybe France and Germany were rather hoping that their own vaccines would arrive before AZ became the game changer "

That’s why macaroon got his knickers in a twist because the french one failed

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"How is our death rate comparing with our European friends,?

Much better than Belgium.

Oh! And on latest 7 day average numbers better than Germany and France.

So only the last 7 days matter?

Oh sorry if that inconvenient fact doesn't quite suit your agenda.

What it does show is what the British governments action is achieving today compared to the others. Rather than in the distant past when pretty much everybody got it wrong.

Currently Britain is doing better on infection and death rates than a ruck of EU countries.

Yes including Germany, France, and Italy.

Sorry mate but it looks like the Tories are actually doing a decent job

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No I think you are spot on.

We will just ignore the last year(the distant pass) and just focus on the last week

Do you think we could just get the last 12 months figures deleted completely?

Phew

Well done boris

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"How is our death rate comparing with our European friends,?

Much better than Belgium.

Oh! And on latest 7 day average numbers better than Germany and France.

So only the last 7 days matter?

Oh sorry if that inconvenient fact doesn't quite suit your agenda.

What it does show is what the British governments action is achieving today compared to the others. Rather than in the distant past when pretty much everybody got it wrong.

Currently Britain is doing better on infection and death rates than a ruck of EU countries.

Yes including Germany, France, and Italy.

Sorry mate but it looks like the Tories are actually doing a decent job

No I think you are spot on.

We will just ignore the last year(the distant pass) and just focus on the last week

Do you think we could just get the last 12 months figures deleted completely?

Phew

Well done boris

"

Just because you are trailing at half time doesn't mean you will lose the match.

Being from Liverpool should know that better than anyone.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

And now the EU are falsely stating that the UK has blocked UK produced vaccine exports.

The Foreign Office have summoned the EU Representative to "put the record straight"

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"And now the EU are falsely stating that the UK has blocked UK produced vaccine exports.

The Foreign Office have summoned the EU Representative to "put the record straight" "

Will they ever get over us leaving?

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By *untwolancashireCouple
over a year ago

Preston


"And now the EU are falsely stating that the UK has blocked UK produced vaccine exports.

The Foreign Office have summoned the EU Representative to "put the record straight" "

Shhh the EU never lie or break any laws or rules, you do realise that’s just the nasty UK that do that lol

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By *kstallionMan
over a year ago

milton keynes


"And now the EU are falsely stating that the UK has blocked UK produced vaccine exports.

The Foreign Office have summoned the EU Representative to "put the record straight"

Shhh the EU never lie or break any laws or rules, you do realise that’s just the nasty UK that do that lol"

if they put as much effort I to sorting themselves out rather than trying to shift the blame they would be far better off

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

seems the eu may have shot themselves in the foot yet again, AZ has cut its forecast for vaccine deliveries to the eu stating global supply chains as the problem.I guess they never thought that others might follow their lead and hold back supplies.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

"Biden’s administration is holding on to its stockpile of AstraZeneca PLC vaccines, even though the shot isn’t authorized for U.S. use, top aides said Friday -- rebuffing pressure from Europe and the company to consider sharing doses of the shot.

“We have a small inventory of AstraZeneca so that, if approved, we can get that inventory out to the American people as quickly as possible,” Jeff Zients, Biden’s Covid-19 response coordinator, said at a press briefing Friday. “We’re rightly focused on getting Americans vaccinated as soon as possible.”

Even though it has yet to seek U.S. regulatory approval, the U.K.-based company has begun manufacturing doses in the U.S. to fill an order for 300 million shots the American government placed last year.

AstraZeneca has encouraged Biden to consider sharing those U.S.-owned doses of its vaccine with the European Union, where countries face shortages and the drug is authorized for use. But Biden and his administration have made clear their priority is to inoculate the U.S. population first." / Bloomberg

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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago

milton keynes


""Biden’s administration is holding on to its stockpile of AstraZeneca PLC vaccines, even though the shot isn’t authorized for U.S. use, top aides said Friday -- rebuffing pressure from Europe and the company to consider sharing doses of the shot.

“We have a small inventory of AstraZeneca so that, if approved, we can get that inventory out to the American people as quickly as possible,” Jeff Zients, Biden’s Covid-19 response coordinator, said at a press briefing Friday. “We’re rightly focused on getting Americans vaccinated as soon as possible.”

Even though it has yet to seek U.S. regulatory approval, the U.K.-based company has begun manufacturing doses in the U.S. to fill an order for 300 million shots the American government placed last year.

AstraZeneca has encouraged Biden to consider sharing those U.S.-owned doses of its vaccine with the European Union, where countries face shortages and the drug is authorized for use. But Biden and his administration have made clear their priority is to inoculate the U.S. population first." / Bloomberg

"

America first - sounds familiar. Can't blame them as the EU have shown they are not going to export vaccines why should America

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