FabSwingers.com forum: Brussels runs out of money

By *uliaChris OP Couple
over a year ago

westerham

All quite sad really, would be good if Europe could perform better then we could export to them as well. Looks like we will do increasing trade with the rest of the world instead for a few years:

“The loss of the UK's financial power has sparked an economic crisis inside the EU, according to one leading European political expert. Robert Oulds, who is the director of the Bruges Group, said that Brexit had blown a huge hole through EU finances and Brussels may not survive another economic crisis. Britain's departure has already left a £65billion (€75bn) hole in the EU budget.”

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This was copied and pasted from the Daily Express website.

A new low.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

Take the sum needed and divide by 27, and ask them to pay up.

However, they won't do that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This was copied and pasted from the Daily Express website.

A new low."

Shocking . His credibility rating has plummeted like the pound did after the EU referendum

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"This was copied and pasted from the Daily Express website.

A new low."

Makes a change from the mail

Its been said before but if Brexit is such a success.

You cant help thinking why they are still obsessed about eurpe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This was copied and pasted from the Daily Express website.

A new low.

Shocking . His credibility rating has plummeted like the pound did after the EU referendum "

I've enjoyed his micro currency fluctuation celebrations.

But copy and pasting from the daily express, who quote Robert Oulds from the Bruges Group is a new low.

-700 credibility points.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"This was copied and pasted from the Daily Express website.

A new low."
Any more newspapers people cant read? its usually the mail and the sun i will add the express to that list.

Pretty soon the guardian will be the only news source allowed on here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It may have been reported in the Express but there are direct quotes there. And it wasn't an Express interview.

You guys really need to do better.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This was copied and pasted from the Daily Express website.

A new low.

Makes a change from the mail

Its been said before but if Brexit is such a success.

You cant help thinking why they are still obsessed about eurpe

Because Brexit can only be a ‘success’ if the EU fails

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So does the EU have an upcoming financial crisis or not?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This was copied and pasted from the Daily Express website.

A new low.Any more newspapers people cant read? its usually the mail and the sun i will add the express to that list.

Pretty soon the guardian will be the only news source allowed on here.

Read whatever you like.

People who copy and paste from the Mail/Express/Beano are inviting questions.

Surely it's important to understand your information sources, and the agenda of the publications? Or should be blindly believe anything we read?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It may have been reported in the Express but there are direct quotes there. And it wasn't an Express interview.

You guys really need to do better."

Quoting Robert Oulds though. Which is like quoting Ronald McDonald on vegan food and pretending it's fact.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"It may have been reported in the Express but there are direct quotes there. And it wasn't an Express interview.

You guys really need to do better."

Can I ask you a question

Brexit is done now isnt it?

Done and dusted..sunny uplands etc

So genuine question..why do you think so many people are utterly obsessed with the eu?

Thet swore blind they didnt want to see the eu collapse but nearly every day there are various stories, invariably in the nail and Express sbout the eu imploding

Why do you think that is?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This was copied and pasted from the Daily Express website.

A new low.Any more newspapers people cant read? its usually the mail and the sun i will add the express to that list.

Pretty soon the guardian will be the only news source allowed on here.

Read whatever you like.

People who copy and paste from the Mail/Express/Beano are inviting questions.

Surely it's important to understand your information sources, and the agenda of the publications? Or should be blindly believe anything we read?"

No offence but don’t compare the brilliance of the Beano with the Mail and Express.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"This was copied and pasted from the Daily Express website.

A new low.Any more newspapers people cant read? its usually the mail and the sun i will add the express to that list.

Pretty soon the guardian will be the only news source allowed on here.

Read whatever you like.

People who copy and paste from the Mail/Express/Beano are inviting questions.

Surely it's important to understand your information sources, and the agenda of the publications? Or should be blindly believe anything we read?"
Surely the people who issue the statements are the important source if they are direct quotes nothing more.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"This was copied and pasted from the Daily Express website.

A new low.

Makes a change from the mail

Its been said before but if Brexit is such a success.

You cant help thinking why they are still obsessed about eurpe

Because Brexit can only be a ‘success’ if the EU fails"

Seems that way

Or they are somehow not confident in what they voted for.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It may have been reported in the Express but there are direct quotes there. And it wasn't an Express interview.

You guys really need to do better.

Quoting Robert Oulds though. Which is like quoting Ronald McDonald on vegan food and pretending it's fact. "

You're 'complaint' wasn't that Oulds was quoted, it was about the Express being the new low.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It may have been reported in the Express but there are direct quotes there. And it wasn't an Express interview.

You guys really need to do better.

Can I ask you a question

Brexit is done now isnt it?

Done and dusted..sunny uplands etc

So genuine question..why do you think so many people are utterly obsessed with the eu?

Thet swore blind they didnt want to see the eu collapse but nearly every day there are various stories, invariably in the nail and Express sbout the eu imploding

Why do you think that is?"

This will be the standard answers

It’s news

Aren’t we allowed to talk about the EU

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It may have been reported in the Express but there are direct quotes there. And it wasn't an Express interview.

You guys really need to do better.

Can I ask you a question

Brexit is done now isnt it?

Done and dusted..sunny uplands etc

So genuine question..why do you think so many people are utterly obsessed with the eu?

Thet swore blind they didnt want to see the eu collapse but nearly every day there are various stories, invariably in the nail and Express sbout the eu imploding

Why do you think that is?"

You can ask a question, yes. Not three though

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By *andy 1Couple
over a year ago

northeast

"It may have been reported in the Express but there are direct quotes there. And it wasn't an Express interview.

You guys really need to do better."

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"It may have been reported in the Express but there are direct quotes there. And it wasn't an Express interview.

You guys really need to do better.

Can I ask you a question

Brexit is done now isnt it?

Done and dusted..sunny uplands etc

So genuine question..why do you think so many people are utterly obsessed with the eu?

Thet swore blind they didnt want to see the eu collapse but nearly every day there are various stories, invariably in the nail and Express sbout the eu imploding

Why do you think that is?

You can ask a question, yes. Not three though

Just the last one will do.

I'm genuinely curious.

They got what they wanted

Shouldnt they be focusing on the uk?

Instead any tiny problem the eu has is pounced upon.

Sounds like insecurity to me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It may have been reported in the Express but there are direct quotes there. And it wasn't an Express interview.

You guys really need to do better.

Quoting Robert Oulds though. Which is like quoting Ronald McDonald on vegan food and pretending it's fact.

You're 'complaint' wasn't that Oulds was quoted, it was about the Express being the new low."

Yes. Look at who their quoting. How reliable is Robert Oulds, how does his fit the agenda of this news paper?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It may have been reported in the Express but there are direct quotes there. And it wasn't an Express interview.

You guys really need to do better.

Quoting Robert Oulds though. Which is like quoting Ronald McDonald on vegan food and pretending it's fact.

You're 'complaint' wasn't that Oulds was quoted, it was about the Express being the new low.

Yes. Look at who their quoting. How reliable is Robert Oulds, how does his fit the agenda of this news paper?

Is the EU facing a financial crisis?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It may have been reported in the Express but there are direct quotes there. And it wasn't an Express interview.

You guys really need to do better.

Can I ask you a question

Brexit is done now isnt it?

Done and dusted..sunny uplands etc

So genuine question..why do you think so many people are utterly obsessed with the eu?

Thet swore blind they didnt want to see the eu collapse but nearly every day there are various stories, invariably in the nail and Express sbout the eu imploding

Why do you think that is?

You can ask a question, yes. Not three though

Just the last one will do.

I'm genuinely curious.

They got what they wanted

Shouldnt they be focusing on the uk?

Instead any tiny problem the eu has is pounced upon.

Sounds like insecurity to me."

I wouldn't even begin to claim I think I know why those papers print those stories.

Is it any different to any other world news that we're shown?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"It may have been reported in the Express but there are direct quotes there. And it wasn't an Express interview.

You guys really need to do better.

Quoting Robert Oulds though. Which is like quoting Ronald McDonald on vegan food and pretending it's fact. "
I take it you dont rate the guy then? I personally had never heard of him before today, what has he said before to make you post that statement.

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By *uliaChris OP Couple
over a year ago

westerham

"So does the EU have an upcoming financial crisis or not? "

Sadly I have predicted a financial crisis for the EU yes. The tottering tower of corruption can only stay standing for so long.

The distant hope is that as Brussels collapses, a new order is established in Europe that can learn from Brexit and become strong and good customers of our new Empire.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It may have been reported in the Express but there are direct quotes there. And it wasn't an Express interview.

You guys really need to do better.

Quoting Robert Oulds though. Which is like quoting Ronald McDonald on vegan food and pretending it's fact.

You're 'complaint' wasn't that Oulds was quoted, it was about the Express being the new low.

Yes. Look at who their quoting. How reliable is Robert Oulds, how does his fit the agenda of this news paper?

I don't care too much for the paper or the commenter but make your mind up what it is you have a problem with.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So does the EU have an upcoming financial crisis or not?

Sadly I have predicted a financial crisis for the EU yes. The tottering tower of corruption can only stay standing for so long.

The distant hope is that as Brussels collapses, a new order is established in Europe that can learn from Brexit and become strong and good customers of our new Empire."

Epic, I keep forgetting your not being serious, top notch trolling

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"It may have been reported in the Express but there are direct quotes there. And it wasn't an Express interview.

You guys really need to do better.

Can I ask you a question

Brexit is done now isnt it?

Done and dusted..sunny uplands etc

So genuine question..why do you think so many people are utterly obsessed with the eu?

Thet swore blind they didnt want to see the eu collapse but nearly every day there are various stories, invariably in the nail and Express sbout the eu imploding

Why do you think that is?

You can ask a question, yes. Not three though

Just the last one will do.

I'm genuinely curious.

They got what they wanted

Shouldnt they be focusing on the uk?

Instead any tiny problem the eu has is pounced upon.

Sounds like insecurity to me.

I wouldn't even begin to claim I think I know why those papers print those stories.

Is it any different to any other world news that we're shown?"

I guess if you have been reading the daily mail for the last 30 years,blaming the eu for everything in the world is 2nd Nature.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So does the EU have an upcoming financial crisis or not?

Sadly I have predicted a financial crisis for the EU yes. The tottering tower of corruption can only stay standing for so long.

The distant hope is that as Brussels collapses, a new order is established in Europe that can learn from Brexit and become strong and good customers of our new Empire."

I think we should allow Spain, Greece and Italy to become a part of our Empire though and not just customers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It may have been reported in the Express but there are direct quotes there. And it wasn't an Express interview.

You guys really need to do better.

Can I ask you a question

Brexit is done now isnt it?

Done and dusted..sunny uplands etc

So genuine question..why do you think so many people are utterly obsessed with the eu?

Thet swore blind they didnt want to see the eu collapse but nearly every day there are various stories, invariably in the nail and Express sbout the eu imploding

Why do you think that is?

You can ask a question, yes. Not three though

Just the last one will do.

I'm genuinely curious.

They got what they wanted

Shouldnt they be focusing on the uk?

Instead any tiny problem the eu has is pounced upon.

Sounds like insecurity to me.

I wouldn't even begin to claim I think I know why those papers print those stories.

Is it any different to any other world news that we're shown?

I guess if you have been reading the daily mail for the last 30 years,blaming the eu for everything in the world is 2nd Nature."

Where have you seen anyone blaming the EU for world problems?

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"So does the EU have an upcoming financial crisis or not?

Sadly I have predicted a financial crisis for the EU yes. The tottering tower of corruption can only stay standing for so long.

The distant hope is that as Brussels collapses, a new order is established in Europe that can learn from Brexit and become strong and good customers of our new Empire.

I think we should allow Spain, Greece and Italy to become a part of our Empire though and not just customers "

The Empire was created by taking land not an invite!

Chris wants empire but think we may need a few more gunboats. Also will we be paying off the debt a hundred years later like the sl4ve trade when we back track? TUI and JET2 will be minted with all the compensation.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

Quite ironic that remainers are branded as remoaners but its the leavers who cant stop whinging about an institution we have left.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Quite ironic that remainers are branded as remoaners but its the leavers who cant stop whinging about an institution we have left."

It is sad to see. After 45 years of struggles, hardship and of wanting to leave the EU I would have hoped that they could have found some peace and comfort in their final years . Tragic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All this talk of the Empire and taking land etc.

Chris has said he wants a New Empire using Soft Power. This is a quite different concept to what was before

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Quite ironic that remainers are branded as remoaners but its the leavers who cant stop whinging about an institution we have left."

Not whinging at all. Just pointing out why leaving a failing organisation was the right thing to do

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Quite ironic that remainers are branded as remoaners but its the leavers who cant stop whinging about an institution we have left.

It is sad to see. After 45 years of struggles, hardship and of wanting to leave the EU I would have hoped that they could have found some peace and comfort in their final years . Tragic "

I know.

My heart goes out to them

They were told all our problems would be over once we left,and I think the penny Is slowly dropping.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Quite ironic that remainers are branded as remoaners but its the leavers who cant stop whinging about an institution we have left.

It is sad to see. After 45 years of struggles, hardship and of wanting to leave the EU I would have hoped that they could have found some peace and comfort in their final years . Tragic

I know.

My heart goes out to them

They were told all our problems would be over once we left,and I think the penny Is slowly dropping."

So sad. Imagine living such a terrible life for all those years and then getting your dream come true and not being able to enjoy it.

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"It may have been reported in the Express but there are direct quotes there. And it wasn't an Express interview.

You guys really need to do better.

Quoting Robert Oulds though. Which is like quoting Ronald McDonald on vegan food and pretending it's fact.

You're 'complaint' wasn't that Oulds was quoted, it was about the Express being the new low.

Yes. Look at who their quoting. How reliable is Robert Oulds, how does his fit the agenda of this news paper?

Is the EU facing a financial crisis? "

Just like us the contributors are reeling from Covid and the drop in GDP which is related to payments. I’m sure all countries are feeling the Covid squeeze.

So down true but not as down as us. We’re the leaders in dropped GDP . The Netherlands and Germany will be ok though as they’ve got our tax revenues from the money moved due to Brexit. Oh and we’ve haven’t stopped paying into the EU for a few years yet so I’m sure they are sleeping just fine. Bit like paying finance on a car someone else drives.

Express spinning selective facts again now there’s a surprise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It may have been reported in the Express but there are direct quotes there. And it wasn't an Express interview.

You guys really need to do better.

Quoting Robert Oulds though. Which is like quoting Ronald McDonald on vegan food and pretending it's fact.

You're 'complaint' wasn't that Oulds was quoted, it was about the Express being the new low.

Yes. Look at who their quoting. How reliable is Robert Oulds, how does his fit the agenda of this news paper?

Is the EU facing a financial crisis?

Just like us the contributors are reeling from Covid and the drop in GDP which is related to payments. I’m sure all countries are feeling the Covid squeeze.

Express spinning selective facts again now there’s a surprise.

We are paying them £340,000 an hour

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It may have been reported in the Express but there are direct quotes there. And it wasn't an Express interview.

You guys really need to do better.

Quoting Robert Oulds though. Which is like quoting Ronald McDonald on vegan food and pretending it's fact.

You're 'complaint' wasn't that Oulds was quoted, it was about the Express being the new low.

Yes. Look at who their quoting. How reliable is Robert Oulds, how does his fit the agenda of this news paper?

Is the EU facing a financial crisis?

Just like us the contributors are reeling from Covid and the drop in GDP which is related to payments. I’m sure all countries are feeling the Covid squeeze.

Express spinning selective facts again now there’s a surprise.

I thought it had already been explained how countries measured GDP differently?

The UK is poised to bounce back far faster than the rest of the EU post covid. And even without covid the EU was facing a financial crisis anyway, nothing to do with our contributions, though that doesn't help

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It may have been reported in the Express but there are direct quotes there. And it wasn't an Express interview.

You guys really need to do better.

Quoting Robert Oulds though. Which is like quoting Ronald McDonald on vegan food and pretending it's fact.

You're 'complaint' wasn't that Oulds was quoted, it was about the Express being the new low.

Yes. Look at who their quoting. How reliable is Robert Oulds, how does his fit the agenda of this news paper?

Is the EU facing a financial crisis?

Just like us the contributors are reeling from Covid and the drop in GDP which is related to payments. I’m sure all countries are feeling the Covid squeeze.

Express spinning selective facts again now there’s a surprise.

We are paying them £340,000 an hour "

Now where's that tired emoji??

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"All this talk of the Empire and taking land etc.

Chris has said he wants a New Empire using Soft Power. This is a quite different concept to what was before

Taking over another country is taking over another country so what’s your point?

Would you be happy if China continue to grow their investments and eventually own everything in the U.K. ? The EU is a cuddly toy in comparison.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"All this talk of the Empire and taking land etc.

Chris has said he wants a New Empire using Soft Power. This is a quite different concept to what was before

Taking over another country is taking over another country so what’s your point?

Would you be happy if China continue to grow their investments and eventually own everything in the U.K. ? The EU is a cuddly toy in comparison. "

In politics, soft power is the ability to attract and co-opt, rather than coerce. In other words, soft power involves shaping the preferences of others through appeal and attraction.

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By *ust some cock suckerMan
over a year ago

Preston

"All quite sad really, would be good if Europe could perform better then we could export to them as well. Looks like we will do increasing trade with the rest of the world instead for a few years:

" Brussels runs out of money"

Then I'd suggest Belgium looks at how they fund the regional municipalities.

As for the body of your post then it makes no sense at all compared to your thread title.

Confusion reigns strong with you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It may have been reported in the Express but there are direct quotes there. And it wasn't an Express interview.

You guys really need to do better.

Quoting Robert Oulds though. Which is like quoting Ronald McDonald on vegan food and pretending it's fact.

You're 'complaint' wasn't that Oulds was quoted, it was about the Express being the new low.

Yes. Look at who their quoting. How reliable is Robert Oulds, how does his fit the agenda of this news paper?

Is the EU facing a financial crisis?

Just like us the contributors are reeling from Covid and the drop in GDP which is related to payments. I’m sure all countries are feeling the Covid squeeze.

Express spinning selective facts again now there’s a surprise.

We are paying them £340,000 an hour

Now where's that tired emoji??"

Actually, we have just paid them £28,000 in the last 5 minutes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It may have been reported in the Express but there are direct quotes there. And it wasn't an Express interview.

You guys really need to do better.

Quoting Robert Oulds though. Which is like quoting Ronald McDonald on vegan food and pretending it's fact. I take it you dont rate the guy then? I personally had never heard of him before today, what has he said before to make you post that statement."

Feel free to Google him and the Bruges group and make up your own mind if they're a credible, unbias source of information.

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"It may have been reported in the Express but there are direct quotes there. And it wasn't an Express interview.

You guys really need to do better.

Quoting Robert Oulds though. Which is like quoting Ronald McDonald on vegan food and pretending it's fact.

You're 'complaint' wasn't that Oulds was quoted, it was about the Express being the new low.

Yes. Look at who their quoting. How reliable is Robert Oulds, how does his fit the agenda of this news paper?

Is the EU facing a financial crisis?

Just like us the contributors are reeling from Covid and the drop in GDP which is related to payments. I’m sure all countries are feeling the Covid squeeze.

Express spinning selective facts again now there’s a surprise.

I thought it had already been explained how countries measured GDP differently?

So 27 countries are deceiving us with GDP calculations?

Our own government agree we will grow quicker but having fallen further it will be from a lower beginning so still not catch up overall.

Every Brexit scenario published by the U.K. government shows a loss for the U.K. and we will be worse off. What are you trying to celebrate?

Also remember GDP isn’t profit it’s turnover. So like the Japanese deal our turnover with Japan will increase marginally but the profit so wealth will go more towards Japan as a result. So Japan better off whereas we just turn over more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It may have been reported in the Express but there are direct quotes there. And it wasn't an Express interview.

You guys really need to do better.

Quoting Robert Oulds though. Which is like quoting Ronald McDonald on vegan food and pretending it's fact.

You're 'complaint' wasn't that Oulds was quoted, it was about the Express being the new low.

Yes. Look at who their quoting. How reliable is Robert Oulds, how does his fit the agenda of this news paper?

Is the EU facing a financial crisis?

Just like us the contributors are reeling from Covid and the drop in GDP which is related to payments. I’m sure all countries are feeling the Covid squeeze.

Express spinning selective facts again now there’s a surprise.

We are paying them £340,000 an hour

Now where's that tired emoji??

Actually, we have just paid them £28,000 in the last 5 minutes "

You're figures are wrong

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It may have been reported in the Express but there are direct quotes there. And it wasn't an Express interview.

You guys really need to do better.

Quoting Robert Oulds though. Which is like quoting Ronald McDonald on vegan food and pretending it's fact.

You're 'complaint' wasn't that Oulds was quoted, it was about the Express being the new low.

Yes. Look at who their quoting. How reliable is Robert Oulds, how does his fit the agenda of this news paper?

Is the EU facing a financial crisis?

Just like us the contributors are reeling from Covid and the drop in GDP which is related to payments. I’m sure all countries are feeling the Covid squeeze.

Express spinning selective facts again now there’s a surprise.

We are paying them £340,000 an hour

Now where's that tired emoji??

Actually, we have just paid them £28,000 in the last 5 minutes

You're figures are wrong

Are they ?

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By *uliaChris OP Couple
over a year ago

westerham

"So does the EU have an upcoming financial crisis or not?

Sadly I have predicted a financial crisis for the EU yes. The tottering tower of corruption can only stay standing for so long.

The distant hope is that as Brussels collapses, a new order is established in Europe that can learn from Brexit and become strong and good customers of our new Empire.

I think we should allow Spain, Greece and Italy to become a part of our Empire though and not just customers "

If we consider the number of Spanish Greek and Italian youngsters who have fled to The UK for a job, they kind of already are.

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"All this talk of the Empire and taking land etc.

Chris has said he wants a New Empire using Soft Power. This is a quite different concept to what was before

Taking over another country is taking over another country so what’s your point?

Would you be happy if China continue to grow their investments and eventually own everything in the U.K. ? The EU is a cuddly toy in comparison.

In politics, soft power is the ability to attract and co-opt, rather than coerce. In other words, soft power involves shaping the preferences of others through appeal and attraction."

So you’re happy with the China model ok you run with that as a good thing.

If it’s preferable trading that’s what we did in the EU. Strange how things turn out. We didn’t have any gunboats rocking up to join the EU.

Let’s see how much we can softly coerce the Chinese and Americans as that’s what I keep being told is our target market. Remember we have 45% of our market to find if the EU is going to go up in a puff of smoke next week .

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By *ust some cock suckerMan
over a year ago

Preston

I'm genuinely curious.

They got what they wanted

Shouldnt they be focusing on the uk?

Instead any tiny problem the eu has is pounced upon.

Sounds like insecurity to me."

There's nothing positive that's happening because of Brexit for leavers to boast about so leavers only have the option left of picking out problems within the EU to justify their reason for voting to leave because they've shit & bust massively on their main points of Brexit.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"It may have been reported in the Express but there are direct quotes there. And it wasn't an Express interview.

You guys really need to do better.

Feel free to Google him and the Bruges group and make up your own mind if they're a credible, unbias source of information."
yeah i know just wanted to know why you were comparing him to ronald mc donald.

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By *or Fox SakeCouple
over a year ago

Thornaby

"This was copied and pasted from the Daily Express website.

A new low."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"All this talk of the Empire and taking land etc.

Chris has said he wants a New Empire using Soft Power. This is a quite different concept to what was before

Taking over another country is taking over another country so what’s your point?

Would you be happy if China continue to grow their investments and eventually own everything in the U.K. ? The EU is a cuddly toy in comparison.

In politics, soft power is the ability to attract and co-opt, rather than coerce. In other words, soft power involves shaping the preferences of others through appeal and attraction.

So you’re happy with the China model ok you run with that as a good thing.

If it’s preferable trading that’s what we did in the EU. Strange how things turn out. We didn’t have any gunboats rocking up to join the EU.

I never once said I was happy with the China model. I was merely pointing out that Chris has never said he wants an Empire through hard power, in fact, he says the complete opposite.

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By *uliaChris OP Couple
over a year ago

westerham

"It may have been reported in the Express but there are direct quotes there. And it wasn't an Express interview.

You guys really need to do better.

Quoting Robert Oulds though. Which is like quoting Ronald McDonald on vegan food and pretending it's fact.

You're 'complaint' wasn't that Oulds was quoted, it was about the Express being the new low.

Yes. Look at who their quoting. How reliable is Robert Oulds, how does his fit the agenda of this news paper?

Is the EU facing a financial crisis?

Just like us the contributors are reeling from Covid and the drop in GDP which is related to payments. I’m sure all countries are feeling the Covid squeeze.

Express spinning selective facts again now there’s a surprise.

We are paying them £340,000 an hour

Now where's that tired emoji??

Actually, we have just paid them £28,000 in the last 5 minutes

You're figures are wrong

Are they ? "

You keep quoting these “paying in” figures as if they are either true or that they even support your remoaner argument. Baffling.

Cold, hard reality is hurtling towards Brussels like Barnier to the whisky cabinet, and they really are gonna need the UK and the IMF to prop them up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It may have been reported in the Express but there are direct quotes there. And it wasn't an Express interview.

You guys really need to do better.

Quoting Robert Oulds though. Which is like quoting Ronald McDonald on vegan food and pretending it's fact.

You're 'complaint' wasn't that Oulds was quoted, it was about the Express being the new low.

Yes. Look at who their quoting. How reliable is Robert Oulds, how does his fit the agenda of this news paper?

Is the EU facing a financial crisis?

Just like us the contributors are reeling from Covid and the drop in GDP which is related to payments. I’m sure all countries are feeling the Covid squeeze.

Express spinning selective facts again now there’s a surprise.

We are paying them £340,000 an hour

Now where's that tired emoji??

Actually, we have just paid them £28,000 in the last 5 minutes

You're figures are wrong

Are they ?

You keep quoting these “paying in” figures as if they are either true or that they even support your remoaner argument. Baffling.

Cold, hard reality is hurtling towards Brussels like Barnier to the whisky cabinet, and they really are gonna need the UK and the IMF to prop them up.

£340,000 an hour Chris

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"All this talk of the Empire and taking land etc.

Chris has said he wants a New Empire using Soft Power. This is a quite different concept to what was before

Taking over another country is taking over another country so what’s your point?

Would you be happy if China continue to grow their investments and eventually own everything in the U.K. ? The EU is a cuddly toy in comparison.

In politics, soft power is the ability to attract and co-opt, rather than coerce. In other words, soft power involves shaping the preferences of others through appeal and attraction.

So you’re happy with the China model ok you run with that as a good thing.

If it’s preferable trading that’s what we did in the EU. Strange how things turn out. We didn’t have any gunboats rocking up to join the EU.

That market would still be there and would be even stronger without the incompetent protectionist EU commission running things

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"All this talk of the Empire and taking land etc.

Chris has said he wants a New Empire using Soft Power. This is a quite different concept to what was before

Taking over another country is taking over another country so what’s your point?

Would you be happy if China continue to grow their investments and eventually own everything in the U.K. ? The EU is a cuddly toy in comparison.

In politics, soft power is the ability to attract and co-opt, rather than coerce. In other words, soft power involves shaping the preferences of others through appeal and attraction.

So you’re happy with the China model ok you run with that as a good thing.

If it’s preferable trading that’s what we did in the EU. Strange how things turn out. We didn’t have any gunboats rocking up to join the EU.

I never once said I was happy with the China model. I was merely pointing out that Chris has never said he wants an Empire through hard power, in fact, he says the complete opposite."

This plan to reinstate the British Empire is a little light on details.

Could you guys elaborate on what you're advocating here?

Maybe that will alleviate some of the negative responses to this proposal.