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"Losing count of all this brexit winning." Tbh, this story has got lost amongst all the others | |||
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"1,000 Jobs that were in the U.K Will be Going to People in the EU . We know what we voted for !!!" Thats not the case at all. | |||
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"1,000 Jobs that were in the U.K Will be Going to People in the EU . We know what we voted for !!! Thats not the case at all. " https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2021/02/09/jd-sports-moving-1000-jobs-to-eu-as-brexit-is-worse-than-predicted-14050970/amp/ JD Sports moving 1,000 jobs to EU as Brexit impact is ‘worse than predicted | |||
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"1,000 Jobs that were in the U.K Will be Going to People in the EU . We know what we voted for !!! Thats not the case at all. https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2021/02/09/jd-sports-moving-1000-jobs-to-eu-as-brexit-is-worse-than-predicted-14050970/amp/ JD Sports moving 1,000 jobs to EU as Brexit impact is ‘worse than predicted" The Rochdale distribution centre is not closing. They are thinking of opening up a new distrubution centre in the which will create upto 1000 jobs. These are new jobs, not the UK jobs, although they concede that some jobs might have to move from the UK to the EU. | |||
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" The warehouse, which will employ around 1,000 members of staff, would have been built in the UK if Brexit did not go ahead. It is understood that no current jobs at JD Sports’ UK distribution sites will be affected by the change of plan. " 1000 jobs that would have been created in the UK will now be created in the EU. So that's 1000 jobs NOT being created in the UK that was planned for the UK. So 1000 lost jobs for the UK. | |||
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" The warehouse, which will employ around 1,000 members of staff, would have been built in the UK if Brexit did not go ahead. It is understood that no current jobs at JD Sports’ UK distribution sites will be affected by the change of plan. 1000 jobs that would have been created in the UK will now be created in the EU. So that's 1000 jobs NOT being created in the UK that was planned for the UK. So 1000 lost jobs for the UK. " These jobs were never planned for the UK . | |||
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" The warehouse, which will employ around 1,000 members of staff, would have been built in the UK if Brexit did not go ahead. It is understood that no current jobs at JD Sports’ UK distribution sites will be affected by the change of plan. 1000 jobs that would have been created in the UK will now be created in the EU. So that's 1000 jobs NOT being created in the UK that was planned for the UK. So 1000 lost jobs for the UK. " Maybe read this stuff back to yourself and ask does this make sense before you post it? | |||
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" The warehouse, which will employ around 1,000 members of staff, would have been built in the UK if Brexit did not go ahead. It is understood that no current jobs at JD Sports’ UK distribution sites will be affected by the change of plan. 1000 jobs that would have been created in the UK will now be created in the EU. So that's 1000 jobs NOT being created in the UK that was planned for the UK. So 1000 lost jobs for the UK. Maybe read this stuff back to yourself and ask does this make sense before you post it? "  
Here is the full article for you from metro online .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2021/02/09/jd-sports-moving-1000-jobs-to-eu-as-brexit-is-worse-than-predicted-14050970/amp/
JD Sports is set to open a new warehouse site within the European Union as Brexit is already disrupting the company’s supply chain.
Peter Cowgill, executive chairman of JD Sports, said shipping goods to mainland Europe after Brexit could cost the company ‘double-digit millions’. He told BBC Radio 4’s World At One programme that a new European site will help the firm side-step tariff costs and delays.
The warehouse, which will employ around 1,000 members of staff, would have been built in the UK if Brexit did not go ahead. It is understood that no current jobs at JD Sports’ UK distribution sites will be affected by the change of plan.
New trade rules came into force on January 1 after the Government secured a last-minute deal with the EU. Mr Cowgill said the amount of red tape had been ‘very significant’ and slowed down the company’s trade processes.
He said: ‘They said we have a free-trade arrangement but that’s really not the case. If you source from the Far East and bring products to the UK and then ship to stores, the tariffs apply.
‘With the tariffs that apply, it would make a lot of economic sense to have a distribution centre in Europe as well the UK – it would mean the transfer of a number of jobs into Europe. It’s considerably worse than predicted.
The implications of it have probably been appreciated after the event and probably not attracted the airtime and publicity that they otherwise would have done because Covid is more serious at present.’
Mr Cowgill also warned that an overhaul of business rates and rents will be needed for UK high streets to recover from the pandemic.
He joined supermarkets, including Tesco, Morrisons and Asda, in calling on Chancellor Rishi Sunak to use reduce the burden on shops and businesses in the upcoming Budget.
Mr Cowgill said: ‘I think the high streets and shopping centres have got to be repriced. Clearly the accommodation expenses, which have been too high for a long period of time, mean that bricks and mortar stores are uneconomical and unviable.
‘I think we have to have another year’s rates holiday to be honest and then there’s got to be a major reassessment of the cost of rates to the retailer if viability and prosperity is to return to shopping centres and high streets.’
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" The warehouse, which will employ around 1,000 members of staff, would have been built in the UK if Brexit did not go ahead. It is understood that no current jobs at JD Sports’ UK distribution sites will be affected by the change of plan. 1000 jobs that would have been created in the UK will now be created in the EU. So that's 1000 jobs NOT being created in the UK that was planned for the UK. So 1000 lost jobs for the UK. Maybe read this stuff back to yourself and ask does this make sense before you post it?
Here is the full article for you from metro online .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2021/02/09/jd-sports-moving-1000-jobs-to-eu-as-brexit-is-worse-than-predicted-14050970/amp/
JD Sports is set to open a new warehouse site within the European Union as Brexit is already disrupting the company’s supply chain.
Peter Cowgill, executive chairman of JD Sports, said shipping goods to mainland Europe after Brexit could cost the company ‘double-digit millions’. He told BBC Radio 4’s World At One programme that a new European site will help the firm side-step tariff costs and delays.
The warehouse, which will employ around 1,000 members of staff, would have been built in the UK if Brexit did not go ahead. It is understood that no current jobs at JD Sports’ UK distribution sites will be affected by the change of plan.
New trade rules came into force on January 1 after the Government secured a last-minute deal with the EU. Mr Cowgill said the amount of red tape had been ‘very significant’ and slowed down the company’s trade processes.
He said: ‘They said we have a free-trade arrangement but that’s really not the case. If you source from the Far East and bring products to the UK and then ship to stores, the tariffs apply.
‘With the tariffs that apply, it would make a lot of economic sense to have a distribution centre in Europe as well the UK – it would mean the transfer of a number of jobs into Europe. It’s considerably worse than predicted.
The implications of it have probably been appreciated after the event and probably not attracted the airtime and publicity that they otherwise would have done because Covid is more serious at present.’
Mr Cowgill also warned that an overhaul of business rates and rents will be needed for UK high streets to recover from the pandemic.
He joined supermarkets, including Tesco, Morrisons and Asda, in calling on Chancellor Rishi Sunak to use reduce the burden on shops and businesses in the upcoming Budget.
Mr Cowgill said: ‘I think the high streets and shopping centres have got to be repriced. Clearly the accommodation expenses, which have been too high for a long period of time, mean that bricks and mortar stores are uneconomical and unviable.
‘I think we have to have another year’s rates holiday to be honest and then there’s got to be a major reassessment of the cost of rates to the retailer if viability and prosperity is to return to shopping centres and high streets.’
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" The warehouse, which will employ around 1,000 members of staff, would have been built in the UK if Brexit did not go ahead. It is understood that no current jobs at JD Sports’ UK distribution sites will be affected by the change of plan. 1000 jobs that would have been created in the UK will now be created in the EU. So that's 1000 jobs NOT being created in the UK that was planned for the UK. So 1000 lost jobs for the UK. Maybe read this stuff back to yourself and ask does this make sense before you post it?
Here is the full article for you from metro online .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2021/02/09/jd-sports-moving-1000-jobs-to-eu-as-brexit-is-worse-than-predicted-14050970/amp/
JD Sports is set to open a new warehouse site within the European Union as Brexit is already disrupting the company’s supply chain.
Peter Cowgill, executive chairman of JD Sports, said shipping goods to mainland Europe after Brexit could cost the company ‘double-digit millions’. He told BBC Radio 4’s World At One programme that a new European site will help the firm side-step tariff costs and delays.
The warehouse, which will employ around 1,000 members of staff, would have been built in the UK if Brexit did not go ahead. It is understood that no current jobs at JD Sports’ UK distribution sites will be affected by the change of plan.
New trade rules came into force on January 1 after the Government secured a last-minute deal with the EU. Mr Cowgill said the amount of red tape had been ‘very significant’ and slowed down the company’s trade processes.
He said: ‘They said we have a free-trade arrangement but that’s really not the case. If you source from the Far East and bring products to the UK and then ship to stores, the tariffs apply.
‘With the tariffs that apply, it would make a lot of economic sense to have a distribution centre in Europe as well the UK – it would mean the transfer of a number of jobs into Europe. It’s considerably worse than predicted.
The implications of it have probably been appreciated after the event and probably not attracted the airtime and publicity that they otherwise would have done because Covid is more serious at present.’
Mr Cowgill also warned that an overhaul of business rates and rents will be needed for UK high streets to recover from the pandemic.
He joined supermarkets, including Tesco, Morrisons and Asda, in calling on Chancellor Rishi Sunak to use reduce the burden on shops and businesses in the upcoming Budget.
Mr Cowgill said: ‘I think the high streets and shopping centres have got to be repriced. Clearly the accommodation expenses, which have been too high for a long period of time, mean that bricks and mortar stores are uneconomical and unviable.
‘I think we have to have another year’s rates holiday to be honest and then there’s got to be a major reassessment of the cost of rates to the retailer if viability and prosperity is to return to shopping centres and high streets.’
So no job losses then "Who mentioned Losses ? Only thing being mentioned is New Jobs created for the EU by a UK company , instead of New jobs for the UK . Still you knew that anyway didntcha | |||
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" The warehouse, which will employ around 1,000 members of staff, would have been built in the UK if Brexit did not go ahead. It is understood that no current jobs at JD Sports’ UK distribution sites will be affected by the change of plan. 1000 jobs that would have been created in the UK will now be created in the EU. So that's 1000 jobs NOT being created in the UK that was planned for the UK. So 1000 lost jobs for the UK. Maybe read this stuff back to yourself and ask does this make sense before you post it?
Here is the full article for you from metro online .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2021/02/09/jd-sports-moving-1000-jobs-to-eu-as-brexit-is-worse-than-predicted-14050970/amp/
JD Sports is set to open a new warehouse site within the European Union as Brexit is already disrupting the company’s supply chain.
Peter Cowgill, executive chairman of JD Sports, said shipping goods to mainland Europe after Brexit could cost the company ‘double-digit millions’. He told BBC Radio 4’s World At One programme that a new European site will help the firm side-step tariff costs and delays.
The warehouse, which will employ around 1,000 members of staff, would have been built in the UK if Brexit did not go ahead. It is understood that no current jobs at JD Sports’ UK distribution sites will be affected by the change of plan.
New trade rules came into force on January 1 after the Government secured a last-minute deal with the EU. Mr Cowgill said the amount of red tape had been ‘very significant’ and slowed down the company’s trade processes.
He said: ‘They said we have a free-trade arrangement but that’s really not the case. If you source from the Far East and bring products to the UK and then ship to stores, the tariffs apply.
‘With the tariffs that apply, it would make a lot of economic sense to have a distribution centre in Europe as well the UK – it would mean the transfer of a number of jobs into Europe. It’s considerably worse than predicted.
The implications of it have probably been appreciated after the event and probably not attracted the airtime and publicity that they otherwise would have done because Covid is more serious at present.’
Mr Cowgill also warned that an overhaul of business rates and rents will be needed for UK high streets to recover from the pandemic.
He joined supermarkets, including Tesco, Morrisons and Asda, in calling on Chancellor Rishi Sunak to use reduce the burden on shops and businesses in the upcoming Budget.
Mr Cowgill said: ‘I think the high streets and shopping centres have got to be repriced. Clearly the accommodation expenses, which have been too high for a long period of time, mean that bricks and mortar stores are uneconomical and unviable.
‘I think we have to have another year’s rates holiday to be honest and then there’s got to be a major reassessment of the cost of rates to the retailer if viability and prosperity is to return to shopping centres and high streets.’
So no job losses then
Who mentioned Losses ?
Only thing being mentioned is New Jobs created for the EU by a UK company , instead of New jobs for the UK .
Still you knew that anyway didntcha
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" The warehouse, which will employ around 1,000 members of staff, would have been built in the UK if Brexit did not go ahead. It is understood that no current jobs at JD Sports’ UK distribution sites will be affected by the change of plan. 1000 jobs that would have been created in the UK will now be created in the EU. So that's 1000 jobs NOT being created in the UK that was planned for the UK. So 1000 lost jobs for the UK. Maybe read this stuff back to yourself and ask does this make sense before you post it?
Here is the full article for you from metro online .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2021/02/09/jd-sports-moving-1000-jobs-to-eu-as-brexit-is-worse-than-predicted-14050970/amp/
JD Sports is set to open a new warehouse site within the European Union as Brexit is already disrupting the company’s supply chain.
Peter Cowgill, executive chairman of JD Sports, said shipping goods to mainland Europe after Brexit could cost the company ‘double-digit millions’. He told BBC Radio 4’s World At One programme that a new European site will help the firm side-step tariff costs and delays.
The warehouse, which will employ around 1,000 members of staff, would have been built in the UK if Brexit did not go ahead. It is understood that no current jobs at JD Sports’ UK distribution sites will be affected by the change of plan.
New trade rules came into force on January 1 after the Government secured a last-minute deal with the EU. Mr Cowgill said the amount of red tape had been ‘very significant’ and slowed down the company’s trade processes.
He said: ‘They said we have a free-trade arrangement but that’s really not the case. If you source from the Far East and bring products to the UK and then ship to stores, the tariffs apply.
‘With the tariffs that apply, it would make a lot of economic sense to have a distribution centre in Europe as well the UK – it would mean the transfer of a number of jobs into Europe. It’s considerably worse than predicted.
The implications of it have probably been appreciated after the event and probably not attracted the airtime and publicity that they otherwise would have done because Covid is more serious at present.’
Mr Cowgill also warned that an overhaul of business rates and rents will be needed for UK high streets to recover from the pandemic.
He joined supermarkets, including Tesco, Morrisons and Asda, in calling on Chancellor Rishi Sunak to use reduce the burden on shops and businesses in the upcoming Budget.
Mr Cowgill said: ‘I think the high streets and shopping centres have got to be repriced. Clearly the accommodation expenses, which have been too high for a long period of time, mean that bricks and mortar stores are uneconomical and unviable.
‘I think we have to have another year’s rates holiday to be honest and then there’s got to be a major reassessment of the cost of rates to the retailer if viability and prosperity is to return to shopping centres and high streets.’
So no job losses then
Who mentioned Losses ?
Only thing being mentioned is New Jobs created for the EU by a UK company , instead of New jobs for the UK .
Still you knew that anyway didntcha
Why would another one have been built in the UK? "Phone JD sports head office & ask to speak to Peter Coghill Im sure he will tell you why . | |||
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"It's quite simple. Jobs which would have been created here are now going to be in europe. As the gmnt have advised companies to do this,its safe to assume this is happening up and down the country. So no,no jobs have gone but why anyone would argue the toss that somehow missing out on countless new jobs is somehow not a negative,is beyond me. Still I suppose if you have gambled the countries future on a gang of clueless racist simpletons, logic Goes out the window." Spot on | |||
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"It's quite simple. Jobs which would have been created here are now going to be in europe. As the gmnt have advised companies to do this,its safe to assume this is happening up and down the country. So no,no jobs have gone but why anyone would argue the toss that somehow missing out on countless new jobs is somehow not a negative,is beyond me. Still I suppose if you have gambled the countries future on a gang of clueless racist simpletons, logic Goes out the window." I'm gonna open a new premises in Bournemouth. Actually no, I'm gonna open it in Manchester. Did Bournemouth just miss out on those jobs? No they didn't because they weren't actually there | |||
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"It's quite simple. Jobs which would have been created here are now going to be in europe. As the gmnt have advised companies to do this,its safe to assume this is happening up and down the country. So no,no jobs have gone but why anyone would argue the toss that somehow missing out on countless new jobs is somehow not a negative,is beyond me. Still I suppose if you have gambled the countries future on a gang of clueless racist simpletons, logic Goes out the window. I'm gonna open a new premises in Bournemouth. Actually no, I'm gonna open it in Manchester. Did Bournemouth just miss out on those jobs? No they didn't because they weren't actually there "In this scenario did the people of Bournemouth vote to make their city a less attractive option to you? | |||
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"It's quite simple. Jobs which would have been created here are now going to be in europe. As the gmnt have advised companies to do this,its safe to assume this is happening up and down the country. So no,no jobs have gone but why anyone would argue the toss that somehow missing out on countless new jobs is somehow not a negative,is beyond me. Still I suppose if you have gambled the countries future on a gang of clueless racist simpletons, logic Goes out the window. I'm gonna open a new premises in Bournemouth. Actually no, I'm gonna open it in Manchester. Did Bournemouth just miss out on those jobs? No they didn't because they weren't actually there
In this scenario did the people of Bournemouth vote to make their city a less attractive option to you?"It makes no odds. These jobs weren't even thought of in 2016. JD Sports have doubled their employees in said warehouse since 2016. It actually makes sense for them to have a continental hub regardless of Brexit. | |||
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" The warehouse, which will employ around 1,000 members of staff, would have been built in the UK if Brexit did not go ahead. It is understood that no current jobs at JD Sports’ UK distribution sites will be affected by the change of plan. 1000 jobs that would have been created in the UK will now be created in the EU. So that's 1000 jobs NOT being created in the UK that was planned for the UK. So 1000 lost jobs for the UK. Maybe read this stuff back to yourself and ask does this make sense before you post it?
Here is the full article for you from metro online .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2021/02/09/jd-sports-moving-1000-jobs-to-eu-as-brexit-is-worse-than-predicted-14050970/amp/
JD Sports is set to open a new warehouse site within the European Union as Brexit is already disrupting the company’s supply chain.
Peter Cowgill, executive chairman of JD Sports, said shipping goods to mainland Europe after Brexit could cost the company ‘double-digit millions’. He told BBC Radio 4’s World At One programme that a new European site will help the firm side-step tariff costs and delays.
The warehouse, which will employ around 1,000 members of staff, would have been built in the UK if Brexit did not go ahead. It is understood that no current jobs at JD Sports’ UK distribution sites will be affected by the change of plan.
New trade rules came into force on January 1 after the Government secured a last-minute deal with the EU. Mr Cowgill said the amount of red tape had been ‘very significant’ and slowed down the company’s trade processes.
He said: ‘They said we have a free-trade arrangement but that’s really not the case. If you source from the Far East and bring products to the UK and then ship to stores, the tariffs apply.
‘With the tariffs that apply, it would make a lot of economic sense to have a distribution centre in Europe as well the UK – it would mean the transfer of a number of jobs into Europe. It’s considerably worse than predicted.
The implications of it have probably been appreciated after the event and probably not attracted the airtime and publicity that they otherwise would have done because Covid is more serious at present.’
Mr Cowgill also warned that an overhaul of business rates and rents will be needed for UK high streets to recover from the pandemic.
He joined supermarkets, including Tesco, Morrisons and Asda, in calling on Chancellor Rishi Sunak to use reduce the burden on shops and businesses in the upcoming Budget.
Mr Cowgill said: ‘I think the high streets and shopping centres have got to be repriced. Clearly the accommodation expenses, which have been too high for a long period of time, mean that bricks and mortar stores are uneconomical and unviable.
‘I think we have to have another year’s rates holiday to be honest and then there’s got to be a major reassessment of the cost of rates to the retailer if viability and prosperity is to return to shopping centres and high streets.’
So no job losses then
Who mentioned Losses ?
Only thing being mentioned is New Jobs created for the EU by a UK company , instead of New jobs for the UK .
Still you knew that anyway didntcha
Why would another one have been built in the UK?
Phone JD sports head office & ask to speak to Peter Coghill
Im sure he will tell you why .
"No point because he is taking bollocks and you know it really. Or maybe you can tell me where this hub was going to be built/opened? And what would have been its purpose? To ship trainers that were made in the far east, delivered to the EU then on to the UK back to the EU? | |||
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"It's quite simple. Jobs which would have been created here are now going to be in europe. As the gmnt have advised companies to do this,its safe to assume this is happening up and down the country. So no,no jobs have gone but why anyone would argue the toss that somehow missing out on countless new jobs is somehow not a negative,is beyond me. Still I suppose if you have gambled the countries future on a gang of clueless racist simpletons, logic Goes out the window. I'm gonna open a new premises in Bournemouth. Actually no, I'm gonna open it in Manchester. Did Bournemouth just miss out on those jobs? No they didn't because they weren't actually there "I doubt you would be creating jobs in Narnia Let alone Bournemouth or Manchester . Where as JD could ! | |||
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" The warehouse, which will employ around 1,000 members of staff, would have been built in the UK if Brexit did not go ahead. It is understood that no current jobs at JD Sports’ UK distribution sites will be affected by the change of plan. 1000 jobs that would have been created in the UK will now be created in the EU. So that's 1000 jobs NOT being created in the UK that was planned for the UK. So 1000 lost jobs for the UK. Maybe read this stuff back to yourself and ask does this make sense before you post it?
Here is the full article for you from metro online .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2021/02/09/jd-sports-moving-1000-jobs-to-eu-as-brexit-is-worse-than-predicted-14050970/amp/
JD Sports is set to open a new warehouse site within the European Union as Brexit is already disrupting the company’s supply chain.
Peter Cowgill, executive chairman of JD Sports, said shipping goods to mainland Europe after Brexit could cost the company ‘double-digit millions’. He told BBC Radio 4’s World At One programme that a new European site will help the firm side-step tariff costs and delays.
The warehouse, which will employ around 1,000 members of staff, would have been built in the UK if Brexit did not go ahead. It is understood that no current jobs at JD Sports’ UK distribution sites will be affected by the change of plan.
New trade rules came into force on January 1 after the Government secured a last-minute deal with the EU. Mr Cowgill said the amount of red tape had been ‘very significant’ and slowed down the company’s trade processes.
He said: ‘They said we have a free-trade arrangement but that’s really not the case. If you source from the Far East and bring products to the UK and then ship to stores, the tariffs apply.
‘With the tariffs that apply, it would make a lot of economic sense to have a distribution centre in Europe as well the UK – it would mean the transfer of a number of jobs into Europe. It’s considerably worse than predicted.
The implications of it have probably been appreciated after the event and probably not attracted the airtime and publicity that they otherwise would have done because Covid is more serious at present.’
Mr Cowgill also warned that an overhaul of business rates and rents will be needed for UK high streets to recover from the pandemic.
He joined supermarkets, including Tesco, Morrisons and Asda, in calling on Chancellor Rishi Sunak to use reduce the burden on shops and businesses in the upcoming Budget.
Mr Cowgill said: ‘I think the high streets and shopping centres have got to be repriced. Clearly the accommodation expenses, which have been too high for a long period of time, mean that bricks and mortar stores are uneconomical and unviable.
‘I think we have to have another year’s rates holiday to be honest and then there’s got to be a major reassessment of the cost of rates to the retailer if viability and prosperity is to return to shopping centres and high streets.’
So no job losses then
Who mentioned Losses ?
Only thing being mentioned is New Jobs created for the EU by a UK company , instead of New jobs for the UK .
Still you knew that anyway didntcha
Why would another one have been built in the UK?
Phone JD sports head office & ask to speak to Peter Coghill
Im sure he will tell you why .
No point because he is taking bollocks and you know it really.
Or maybe you can tell me where this hub was going to be built/opened? And what would have been its purpose? To ship trainers that were made in the far east, delivered to the EU then on to the UK back to the EU? "Where is your proof for bollock talking ? Do you work for JD Have you seen any of there buisness plans ? The only bollocks being spoke are coming out of your mouth . Brexiteers doing what they do Keep spreading the Lie | |||
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"It's quite simple. Jobs which would have been created here are now going to be in europe. As the gmnt have advised companies to do this,its safe to assume this is happening up and down the country. So no,no jobs have gone but why anyone would argue the toss that somehow missing out on countless new jobs is somehow not a negative,is beyond me. Still I suppose if you have gambled the countries future on a gang of clueless racist simpletons, logic Goes out the window. I'm gonna open a new premises in Bournemouth. Actually no, I'm gonna open it in Manchester. Did Bournemouth just miss out on those jobs? No they didn't because they weren't actually there
In this scenario did the people of Bournemouth vote to make their city a less attractive option to you?
It makes no odds. These jobs weren't even thought of in 2016. JD Sports have doubled their employees in said warehouse since 2016. It actually makes sense for them to have a continental hub regardless of Brexit."If they were still part 9f the EU Then new jobs could be created here . Out of the EU then the new jobs would be over there . Can you lot make up your minds | |||
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" The warehouse, which will employ around 1,000 members of staff, would have been built in the UK if Brexit did not go ahead. It is understood that no current jobs at JD Sports’ UK distribution sites will be affected by the change of plan. 1000 jobs that would have been created in the UK will now be created in the EU. So that's 1000 jobs NOT being created in the UK that was planned for the UK. So 1000 lost jobs for the UK. Maybe read this stuff back to yourself and ask does this make sense before you post it?
Here is the full article for you from metro online .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2021/02/09/jd-sports-moving-1000-jobs-to-eu-as-brexit-is-worse-than-predicted-14050970/amp/
JD Sports is set to open a new warehouse site within the European Union as Brexit is already disrupting the company’s supply chain.
Peter Cowgill, executive chairman of JD Sports, said shipping goods to mainland Europe after Brexit could cost the company ‘double-digit millions’. He told BBC Radio 4’s World At One programme that a new European site will help the firm side-step tariff costs and delays.
The warehouse, which will employ around 1,000 members of staff, would have been built in the UK if Brexit did not go ahead. It is understood that no current jobs at JD Sports’ UK distribution sites will be affected by the change of plan.
New trade rules came into force on January 1 after the Government secured a last-minute deal with the EU. Mr Cowgill said the amount of red tape had been ‘very significant’ and slowed down the company’s trade processes.
He said: ‘They said we have a free-trade arrangement but that’s really not the case. If you source from the Far East and bring products to the UK and then ship to stores, the tariffs apply.
‘With the tariffs that apply, it would make a lot of economic sense to have a distribution centre in Europe as well the UK – it would mean the transfer of a number of jobs into Europe. It’s considerably worse than predicted.
The implications of it have probably been appreciated after the event and probably not attracted the airtime and publicity that they otherwise would have done because Covid is more serious at present.’
Mr Cowgill also warned that an overhaul of business rates and rents will be needed for UK high streets to recover from the pandemic.
He joined supermarkets, including Tesco, Morrisons and Asda, in calling on Chancellor Rishi Sunak to use reduce the burden on shops and businesses in the upcoming Budget.
Mr Cowgill said: ‘I think the high streets and shopping centres have got to be repriced. Clearly the accommodation expenses, which have been too high for a long period of time, mean that bricks and mortar stores are uneconomical and unviable.
‘I think we have to have another year’s rates holiday to be honest and then there’s got to be a major reassessment of the cost of rates to the retailer if viability and prosperity is to return to shopping centres and high streets.’
So no job losses then
Who mentioned Losses ?
Only thing being mentioned is New Jobs created for the EU by a UK company , instead of New jobs for the UK .
Still you knew that anyway didntcha
Why would another one have been built in the UK?
Phone JD sports head office & ask to speak to Peter Coghill
Im sure he will tell you why .
No point because he is taking bollocks and you know it really.
Or maybe you can tell me where this hub was going to be built/opened? And what would have been its purpose? To ship trainers that were made in the far east, delivered to the EU then on to the UK back to the EU?
Where is your proof for bollock talking ?
Do you work for JD
Have you seen any of there buisness plans ?
The only bollocks being spoke are coming out of your mouth .
Brexiteers doing what they do
Keep spreading the Lie
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"It's quite simple. Jobs which would have been created here are now going to be in europe. As the gmnt have advised companies to do this,its safe to assume this is happening up and down the country. So no,no jobs have gone but why anyone would argue the toss that somehow missing out on countless new jobs is somehow not a negative,is beyond me. Still I suppose if you have gambled the countries future on a gang of clueless racist simpletons, logic Goes out the window. I'm gonna open a new premises in Bournemouth. Actually no, I'm gonna open it in Manchester. Did Bournemouth just miss out on those jobs? No they didn't because they weren't actually there
I doubt you would be creating jobs in Narnia
Let alone Bournemouth or Manchester .
Where as JD could !"You can doubt and keep hating all you like. I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it | |||
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"It's quite simple. Jobs which would have been created here are now going to be in europe. As the gmnt have advised companies to do this,its safe to assume this is happening up and down the country. So no,no jobs have gone but why anyone would argue the toss that somehow missing out on countless new jobs is somehow not a negative,is beyond me. Still I suppose if you have gambled the countries future on a gang of clueless racist simpletons, logic Goes out the window. I'm gonna open a new premises in Bournemouth. Actually no, I'm gonna open it in Manchester. Did Bournemouth just miss out on those jobs? No they didn't because they weren't actually there
In this scenario did the people of Bournemouth vote to make their city a less attractive option to you?
It makes no odds. These jobs weren't even thought of in 2016. JD Sports have doubled their employees in said warehouse since 2016. It actually makes sense for them to have a continental hub regardless of Brexit.
If they were still part 9f the EU
Then new jobs could be created here .
Out of the EU then the new jobs would be over there .
Can you lot make up your minds
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" The warehouse, which will employ around 1,000 members of staff, would have been built in the UK if Brexit did not go ahead. It is understood that no current jobs at JD Sports’ UK distribution sites will be affected by the change of plan. 1000 jobs that would have been created in the UK will now be created in the EU. So that's 1000 jobs NOT being created in the UK that was planned for the UK. So 1000 lost jobs for the UK. Maybe read this stuff back to yourself and ask does this make sense before you post it?
Here is the full article for you from metro online .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2021/02/09/jd-sports-moving-1000-jobs-to-eu-as-brexit-is-worse-than-predicted-14050970/amp/
JD Sports is set to open a new warehouse site within the European Union as Brexit is already disrupting the company’s supply chain.
Peter Cowgill, executive chairman of JD Sports, said shipping goods to mainland Europe after Brexit could cost the company ‘double-digit millions’. He told BBC Radio 4’s World At One programme that a new European site will help the firm side-step tariff costs and delays.
The warehouse, which will employ around 1,000 members of staff, would have been built in the UK if Brexit did not go ahead. It is understood that no current jobs at JD Sports’ UK distribution sites will be affected by the change of plan.
New trade rules came into force on January 1 after the Government secured a last-minute deal with the EU. Mr Cowgill said the amount of red tape had been ‘very significant’ and slowed down the company’s trade processes.
He said: ‘They said we have a free-trade arrangement but that’s really not the case. If you source from the Far East and bring products to the UK and then ship to stores, the tariffs apply.
‘With the tariffs that apply, it would make a lot of economic sense to have a distribution centre in Europe as well the UK – it would mean the transfer of a number of jobs into Europe. It’s considerably worse than predicted.
The implications of it have probably been appreciated after the event and probably not attracted the airtime and publicity that they otherwise would have done because Covid is more serious at present.’
Mr Cowgill also warned that an overhaul of business rates and rents will be needed for UK high streets to recover from the pandemic.
He joined supermarkets, including Tesco, Morrisons and Asda, in calling on Chancellor Rishi Sunak to use reduce the burden on shops and businesses in the upcoming Budget.
Mr Cowgill said: ‘I think the high streets and shopping centres have got to be repriced. Clearly the accommodation expenses, which have been too high for a long period of time, mean that bricks and mortar stores are uneconomical and unviable.
‘I think we have to have another year’s rates holiday to be honest and then there’s got to be a major reassessment of the cost of rates to the retailer if viability and prosperity is to return to shopping centres and high streets.’
So no job losses then
Who mentioned Losses ?
Only thing being mentioned is New Jobs created for the EU by a UK company , instead of New jobs for the UK .
Still you knew that anyway didntcha
Why would another one have been built in the UK?
Phone JD sports head office & ask to speak to Peter Coghill
Im sure he will tell you why .
No point because he is taking bollocks and you know it really.
Or maybe you can tell me where this hub was going to be built/opened? And what would have been its purpose? To ship trainers that were made in the far east, delivered to the EU then on to the UK back to the EU?
Where is your proof for bollock talking ?
Do you work for JD
Have you seen any of there buisness plans ?
The only bollocks being spoke are coming out of your mouth .
Brexiteers doing what they do
Keep spreading the Lie
Have you seen any of their business plans? "I dont need to . Im not trying to justify reasons that 1000 new jobs for the EU is better Than 1000 new jobs for the UK . Im just stating What JD's official line is . | |||
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"It's quite simple. Jobs which would have been created here are now going to be in europe. As the gmnt have advised companies to do this,its safe to assume this is happening up and down the country. So no,no jobs have gone but why anyone would argue the toss that somehow missing out on countless new jobs is somehow not a negative,is beyond me. Still I suppose if you have gambled the countries future on a gang of clueless racist simpletons, logic Goes out the window. I'm gonna open a new premises in Bournemouth. Actually no, I'm gonna open it in Manchester. Did Bournemouth just miss out on those jobs? No they didn't because they weren't actually there
I doubt you would be creating jobs in Narnia
Let alone Bournemouth or Manchester .
Where as JD could !
You can doubt and keep hating all you like. I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it "Im not hating . It seems you cant accept that JD are creating EU jobs Instead of UK jobs sleep well . | |||
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"It's quite simple. Jobs which would have been created here are now going to be in europe. As the gmnt have advised companies to do this,its safe to assume this is happening up and down the country. So no,no jobs have gone but why anyone would argue the toss that somehow missing out on countless new jobs is somehow not a negative,is beyond me. Still I suppose if you have gambled the countries future on a gang of clueless racist simpletons, logic Goes out the window. I'm gonna open a new premises in Bournemouth. Actually no, I'm gonna open it in Manchester. Did Bournemouth just miss out on those jobs? No they didn't because they weren't actually there
In this scenario did the people of Bournemouth vote to make their city a less attractive option to you?
It makes no odds. These jobs weren't even thought of in 2016. JD Sports have doubled their employees in said warehouse since 2016. It actually makes sense for them to have a continental hub regardless of Brexit.
If they were still part 9f the EU
Then new jobs could be created here .
Out of the EU then the new jobs would be over there .
Can you lot make up your minds
From a simple business perspective it makes sense to have it on the mainland. Generally cheaper labour and cheaper shipping. "So why didnt they start doing it before 2016 ? | |||
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"It's quite simple. Jobs which would have been created here are now going to be in europe. As the gmnt have advised companies to do this,its safe to assume this is happening up and down the country. So no,no jobs have gone but why anyone would argue the toss that somehow missing out on countless new jobs is somehow not a negative,is beyond me. Still I suppose if you have gambled the countries future on a gang of clueless racist simpletons, logic Goes out the window. I'm gonna open a new premises in Bournemouth. Actually no, I'm gonna open it in Manchester. Did Bournemouth just miss out on those jobs? No they didn't because they weren't actually there
In this scenario did the people of Bournemouth vote to make their city a less attractive option to you?
It makes no odds. These jobs weren't even thought of in 2016. JD Sports have doubled their employees in said warehouse since 2016. It actually makes sense for them to have a continental hub regardless of Brexit.
If they were still part 9f the EU
Then new jobs could be created here .
Out of the EU then the new jobs would be over there .
Can you lot make up your minds
From a simple business perspective it makes sense to have it on the mainland. Generally cheaper labour and cheaper shipping.
So why didnt they start doing it before 2016 ?"Maybe because it wasn't worth it before but is now? | |||
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"It's quite simple. Jobs which would have been created here are now going to be in europe. As the gmnt have advised companies to do this,its safe to assume this is happening up and down the country. So no,no jobs have gone but why anyone would argue the toss that somehow missing out on countless new jobs is somehow not a negative,is beyond me. Still I suppose if you have gambled the countries future on a gang of clueless racist simpletons, logic Goes out the window. I'm gonna open a new premises in Bournemouth. Actually no, I'm gonna open it in Manchester. Did Bournemouth just miss out on those jobs? No they didn't because they weren't actually there
In this scenario did the people of Bournemouth vote to make their city a less attractive option to you?
It makes no odds. These jobs weren't even thought of in 2016. JD Sports have doubled their employees in said warehouse since 2016. It actually makes sense for them to have a continental hub regardless of Brexit.
If they were still part 9f the EU
Then new jobs could be created here .
Out of the EU then the new jobs would be over there .
Can you lot make up your minds
From a simple business perspective it makes sense to have it on the mainland. Generally cheaper labour and cheaper shipping.
So why didnt they start doing it before 2016 ?
Maybe because it wasn't worth it before but is now? "Maybe they didnt need to then But they do now ? Brexit Its going to be good for the UK Yup 1000 new jobs for the EU Great for the UK | |||
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"If brexit had not happened would these jobs and new warehouse have been opened in the UK If If If Just read the words of JD . Its all there Well as we have left then the question has to be an if. I was just politely asking would this distribution centre be opened in the UK had we remained in the EU" Probably as sales have grown for people wanting Sporting goods . | |||
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"It's quite simple. Jobs which would have been created here are now going to be in europe. As the gmnt have advised companies to do this,its safe to assume this is happening up and down the country. So no,no jobs have gone but why anyone would argue the toss that somehow missing out on countless new jobs is somehow not a negative,is beyond me. Still I suppose if you have gambled the countries future on a gang of clueless racist simpletons, logic Goes out the window. I'm gonna open a new premises in Bournemouth. Actually no, I'm gonna open it in Manchester. Did Bournemouth just miss out on those jobs? No they didn't because they weren't actually there
In this scenario did the people of Bournemouth vote to make their city a less attractive option to you?
It makes no odds. These jobs weren't even thought of in 2016. JD Sports have doubled their employees in said warehouse since 2016. It actually makes sense for them to have a continental hub regardless of Brexit.
If they were still part 9f the EU
Then new jobs could be created here .
Out of the EU then the new jobs would be over there .
Can you lot make up your minds
From a simple business perspective it makes sense to have it on the mainland. Generally cheaper labour and cheaper shipping.
So why didnt they start doing it before 2016 ?
Maybe because it wasn't worth it before but is now?
Maybe they didnt need to then
But they do now ?
Brexit
Its going to be good for the UK
Yup 1000 new jobs for the EU
Great for the UK
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"Why would they have opened another distribution centre in the U.K. to serve the EU ? Does not make sense does it! Opening one in the EU would have, seems more that it’s yet another case of making the narrative of the brexit effect "Without the Brexit effect They wouldnt need to open a distribution centre in the EU creating a Thousand EU jobs , to bring goods into the UK . | |||
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"It's quite simple. Jobs which would have been created here are now going to be in europe. As the gmnt have advised companies to do this,its safe to assume this is happening up and down the country. So no,no jobs have gone but why anyone would argue the toss that somehow missing out on countless new jobs is somehow not a negative,is beyond me. Still I suppose if you have gambled the countries future on a gang of clueless racist simpletons, logic Goes out the window. I'm gonna open a new premises in Bournemouth. Actually no, I'm gonna open it in Manchester. Did Bournemouth just miss out on those jobs? No they didn't because they weren't actually there
In this scenario did the people of Bournemouth vote to make their city a less attractive option to you?
It makes no odds. These jobs weren't even thought of in 2016. JD Sports have doubled their employees in said warehouse since 2016. It actually makes sense for them to have a continental hub regardless of Brexit."It does make odds. People voted to make the UK less attractive for people to set up businesses or to expand their businesses. Might not have been the main factor in this instance. But it certainly doesn't help. | |||
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"It's quite simple. Jobs which would have been created here are now going to be in europe. As the gmnt have advised companies to do this,its safe to assume this is happening up and down the country. So no,no jobs have gone but why anyone would argue the toss that somehow missing out on countless new jobs is somehow not a negative,is beyond me. Still I suppose if you have gambled the countries future on a gang of clueless racist simpletons, logic Goes out the window. I'm gonna open a new premises in Bournemouth. Actually no, I'm gonna open it in Manchester. Did Bournemouth just miss out on those jobs? No they didn't because they weren't actually there
In this scenario did the people of Bournemouth vote to make their city a less attractive option to you?
It makes no odds. These jobs weren't even thought of in 2016. JD Sports have doubled their employees in said warehouse since 2016. It actually makes sense for them to have a continental hub regardless of Brexit.
It does make odds. People voted to make the UK less attractive for people to set up businesses or to expand their businesses.
Might not have been the main factor in this instance. But it certainly doesn't help. "It doesn't make any odds. As I've already said. It makes commercial sense whether we're in the EU or not. Cheaper labour and cheaper shipping. | |||
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"Why would they have opened another distribution centre in the U.K. to serve the EU ? Does not make sense does it! Opening one in the EU would have, seems more that it’s yet another case of making the narrative of the brexit effect
Without the Brexit effect
They wouldnt need to open a distribution centre in the EU creating a Thousand EU jobs , to bring goods into the UK .
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"It's quite simple. Jobs which would have been created here are now going to be in europe. As the gmnt have advised companies to do this,its safe to assume this is happening up and down the country. So no,no jobs have gone but why anyone would argue the toss that somehow missing out on countless new jobs is somehow not a negative,is beyond me. Still I suppose if you have gambled the countries future on a gang of clueless racist simpletons, logic Goes out the window. I'm gonna open a new premises in Bournemouth. Actually no, I'm gonna open it in Manchester. Did Bournemouth just miss out on those jobs? No they didn't because they weren't actually there
In this scenario did the people of Bournemouth vote to make their city a less attractive option to you?
It makes no odds. These jobs weren't even thought of in 2016. JD Sports have doubled their employees in said warehouse since 2016. It actually makes sense for them to have a continental hub regardless of Brexit.
It does make odds. People voted to make the UK less attractive for people to set up businesses or to expand their businesses.
Might not have been the main factor in this instance. But it certainly doesn't help.
It doesn't make any odds. As I've already said. It makes commercial sense whether we're in the EU or not. Cheaper labour and cheaper shipping."I disagree. But still. | |||
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"Why would they have opened another distribution centre in the U.K. to serve the EU ? Does not make sense does it! Opening one in the EU would have, seems more that it’s yet another case of making the narrative of the brexit effect
Without the Brexit effect
They wouldnt need to open a distribution centre in the EU creating a Thousand EU jobs , to bring goods into the UK .
So then there would not have been a 1000 jobs in the U.K. then because they would not have built one here "Thye would hav opened a new premesis to deal with the surge in Sporting goods being purchased . So yes there would be an extra 1000 jobs
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"1,000 Jobs that were in the U.K Will be Going to People in the EU . We know what we voted for !!! Thats not the case at all. https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2021/02/09/jd-sports-moving-1000-jobs-to-eu-as-brexit-is-worse-than-predicted-14050970/amp/ JD Sports moving 1,000 jobs to EU as Brexit impact is ‘worse than predicted The Rochdale distribution centre is not closing. They are thinking of opening up a new distrubution centre in the which will create upto 1000 jobs. These are new jobs, not the UK jobs, although they concede that some jobs might have to move from the UK to the EU. " Remoaners do not like the truth or facts your upsetting them like I do well done | |||
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"1,000 Jobs that were in the U.K Will be Going to People in the EU . We know what we voted for !!! Thats not the case at all. https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2021/02/09/jd-sports-moving-1000-jobs-to-eu-as-brexit-is-worse-than-predicted-14050970/amp/ JD Sports moving 1,000 jobs to EU as Brexit impact is ‘worse than predicted The Rochdale distribution centre is not closing. They are thinking of opening up a new distrubution centre in the which will create upto 1000 jobs. These are new jobs, not the UK jobs, although they concede that some jobs might have to move from the UK to the EU. Remoaners do not like the truth or facts your upsetting them like I do well done" Facts are Facts JD Sports a UK Company are going to Create 1000 Jobs for the EU . Brexit means taking back control . Unelected EU bureaucrats would have loved to do this | |||
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"1,000 Jobs that were in the U.K Will be Going to People in the EU . We know what we voted for !!! Thats not the case at all. https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2021/02/09/jd-sports-moving-1000-jobs-to-eu-as-brexit-is-worse-than-predicted-14050970/amp/ JD Sports moving 1,000 jobs to EU as Brexit impact is ‘worse than predicted The Rochdale distribution centre is not closing. They are thinking of opening up a new distrubution centre in the which will create upto 1000 jobs. These are new jobs, not the UK jobs, although they concede that some jobs might have to move from the UK to the EU. Remoaners do not like the truth or facts your upsetting them like I do well done" You never upset us | |||
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"1,000 Jobs that were in the U.K Will be Going to People in the EU . We know what we voted for !!! Thats not the case at all. https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2021/02/09/jd-sports-moving-1000-jobs-to-eu-as-brexit-is-worse-than-predicted-14050970/amp/ JD Sports moving 1,000 jobs to EU as Brexit impact is ‘worse than predicted The Rochdale distribution centre is not closing. They are thinking of opening up a new distrubution centre in the which will create upto 1000 jobs. These are new jobs, not the UK jobs, although they concede that some jobs might have to move from the UK to the EU. Remoaners do not like the truth or facts your upsetting them like I do well done" Discusting post | |||
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" The warehouse, which will employ around 1,000 members of staff, would have been built in the UK if Brexit did not go ahead. It is understood that no current jobs at JD Sports’ UK distribution sites will be affected by the change of plan. 1000 jobs that would have been created in the UK will now be created in the EU. So that's 1000 jobs NOT being created in the UK that was planned for the UK. So 1000 lost jobs for the UK. Maybe read this stuff back to yourself and ask does this make sense before you post it? " It made perfect sense because it was totally factually correct but you seem to have a hard time dealing with facts | |||
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"This place is borderline surreal Boris could come out and say we are losing 1000 jobs because of Brexit and people would still argue the toss." I know, fucking unbelievable but that's the kind of people we have allowed to have ballot papers  | |||
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"1,000 Jobs that were in the U.K Will be Going to People in the EU . We know what we voted for !!! Thats not the case at all. https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2021/02/09/jd-sports-moving-1000-jobs-to-eu-as-brexit-is-worse-than-predicted-14050970/amp/ JD Sports moving 1,000 jobs to EU as Brexit impact is ‘worse than predicted The Rochdale distribution centre is not closing. They are thinking of opening up a new distrubution centre in the which will create upto 1000 jobs. These are new jobs, not the UK jobs, although they concede that some jobs might have to move from the UK to the EU. Remoaners do not like the truth or facts your upsetting them like I do well done" " The warehouse, which will employ around 1,000 members of staff, would have been built in the UK if Brexit did not go ahead.? " It's there again, in black and white and it couldn't be easier to understand. I really don't know how to put into words politely how people can find this so hard to understand. Just another leaver sums it up perfectly I guess. | |||
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"This place is borderline surreal Boris could come out and say we are losing 1000 jobs because of Brexit and people would still argue the toss. I know, fucking unbelievable but that's the kind of people we have allowed to have ballot papers "17.2 million to many ! | |||
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"The good news is it won't be 1000 uk workers being bullied and treated like shit for minimum wage. Jd sports should die, it is a horrendous employer. " Well you never know, now that it will be more difficult to bring in cheap labour from the EU they might improve pay and conditions for the staff they already have to keep them there | |||
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"Am I miss-reading the quote from this guy? “With the tariffs that apply, it would make a lot of economic sense to have a distribution centre in Europe as well the UK – it would mean the transfer of a number of jobs into Europe. It’s considerably worse than predicted.” WITH THE TARIFFS THAT APPLY IT WOULD MAKE ECONOMIC SENSE. Without those tariffs it would be financially the same to increase the warehouse operation in the U.K. but now with “tariffs”applying due to Brexit it’s better to open in the EU. IT WILL MEAN THE TRANSFER OF SOME JOBS. So new jobs not coming to U.K. due to Brexit imposed tariffs and some U.K. jobs moving to the EU due to Brexit imposed tariffs. He’s a growing business but sadly the benefits won’t be felt in the U.K. for employment. We will be losing out. As he also said “it’s worse than was predicted.”" You have read it perfectly well. With tariffs that apply it would make economic sense. Add in labour rates and shipping rates and it's a no brainer. The quote about the transfer of jobs he also made but went back on it later to say no jobs in the UK would be affected. | |||
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"Am I miss-reading the quote from this guy? “With the tariffs that apply, it would make a lot of economic sense to have a distribution centre in Europe as well the UK – it would mean the transfer of a number of jobs into Europe. It’s considerably worse than predicted.” WITH THE TARIFFS THAT APPLY IT WOULD MAKE ECONOMIC SENSE. Without those tariffs it would be financially the same to increase the warehouse operation in the U.K. but now with “tariffs”applying due to Brexit it’s better to open in the EU. IT WILL MEAN THE TRANSFER OF SOME JOBS. So new jobs not coming to U.K. due to Brexit imposed tariffs and some U.K. jobs moving to the EU due to Brexit imposed tariffs. He’s a growing business but sadly the benefits won’t be felt in the U.K. for employment. We will be losing out. As he also said “it’s worse than was predicted.” You have read it perfectly well. With tariffs that apply it would make economic sense. Add in labour rates and shipping rates and it's a no brainer. The quote about the transfer of jobs he also made but went back on it later to say no jobs in the UK would be affected." When did the tariffs arrive?. And Why? You need to look up shipping rates. Do to our historic imbalance of trade I can deliver in many part of Europe far cheaper than from a distribution centre in the EU. I know a guy based in the Netherlands who for years has bought low value straw in the U.K. to deliver to his customers in. NL DE BE because the transport was cheaper than buying local. Mad but true. The only reason his business is now in doubt is due to customs. So another Brexit win. | |||
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"Am I miss-reading the quote from this guy? “With the tariffs that apply, it would make a lot of economic sense to have a distribution centre in Europe as well the UK – it would mean the transfer of a number of jobs into Europe. It’s considerably worse than predicted.” WITH THE TARIFFS THAT APPLY IT WOULD MAKE ECONOMIC SENSE. Without those tariffs it would be financially the same to increase the warehouse operation in the U.K. but now with “tariffs”applying due to Brexit it’s better to open in the EU. IT WILL MEAN THE TRANSFER OF SOME JOBS. So new jobs not coming to U.K. due to Brexit imposed tariffs and some U.K. jobs moving to the EU due to Brexit imposed tariffs. He’s a growing business but sadly the benefits won’t be felt in the U.K. for employment. We will be losing out. As he also said “it’s worse than was predicted.” You have read it perfectly well. With tariffs that apply it would make economic sense. Add in labour rates and shipping rates and it's a no brainer. The quote about the transfer of jobs he also made but went back on it later to say no jobs in the UK would be affected. When did the tariffs arrive?. And Why? You need to look up shipping rates. Do to our historic imbalance of trade I can deliver in many part of Europe far cheaper than from a distribution centre in the EU. I know a guy based in the Netherlands who for years has bought low value straw in the U.K. to deliver to his customers in. NL DE BE because the transport was cheaper than buying local. Mad but true. The only reason his business is now in doubt is due to customs. So another Brexit win. " Said it before,its genuinely like arguing with some religious cult. A seafood business closed the other day citing 'recent chsnges'and it was still apparently nothing to do with brexit | |||
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"Am I miss-reading the quote from this guy? “With the tariffs that apply, it would make a lot of economic sense to have a distribution centre in Europe as well the UK – it would mean the transfer of a number of jobs into Europe. It’s considerably worse than predicted.” WITH THE TARIFFS THAT APPLY IT WOULD MAKE ECONOMIC SENSE. Without those tariffs it would be financially the same to increase the warehouse operation in the U.K. but now with “tariffs”applying due to Brexit it’s better to open in the EU. IT WILL MEAN THE TRANSFER OF SOME JOBS. So new jobs not coming to U.K. due to Brexit imposed tariffs and some U.K. jobs moving to the EU due to Brexit imposed tariffs. He’s a growing business but sadly the benefits won’t be felt in the U.K. for employment. We will be losing out. As he also said “it’s worse than was predicted.” You have read it perfectly well. With tariffs that apply it would make economic sense. Add in labour rates and shipping rates and it's a no brainer. The quote about the transfer of jobs he also made but went back on it later to say no jobs in the UK would be affected. When did the tariffs arrive?. And Why? You need to look up shipping rates. Do to our historic imbalance of trade I can deliver in many part of Europe far cheaper than from a distribution centre in the EU. I know a guy based in the Netherlands who for years has bought low value straw in the U.K. to deliver to his customers in. NL DE BE because the transport was cheaper than buying local. Mad but true. The only reason his business is now in doubt is due to customs. So another Brexit win. " I don't need to look up shipping rates. It's cheaper for them to ship from BE-DE than it is from UK-DE regardless of tariffs. Labour rates I was wrong on, they're about the same as UK in BE. Besides all of that. These aren't 'job losses'. | |||
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"Am I miss-reading the quote from this guy? “With the tariffs that apply, it would make a lot of economic sense to have a distribution centre in Europe as well the UK – it would mean the transfer of a number of jobs into Europe. It’s considerably worse than predicted.” WITH THE TARIFFS THAT APPLY IT WOULD MAKE ECONOMIC SENSE. Without those tariffs it would be financially the same to increase the warehouse operation in the U.K. but now with “tariffs”applying due to Brexit it’s better to open in the EU. IT WILL MEAN THE TRANSFER OF SOME JOBS. So new jobs not coming to U.K. due to Brexit imposed tariffs and some U.K. jobs moving to the EU due to Brexit imposed tariffs. He’s a growing business but sadly the benefits won’t be felt in the U.K. for employment. We will be losing out. As he also said “it’s worse than was predicted.” You have read it perfectly well. With tariffs that apply it would make economic sense. Add in labour rates and shipping rates and it's a no brainer. The quote about the transfer of jobs he also made but went back on it later to say no jobs in the UK would be affected. When did the tariffs arrive?. And Why? You need to look up shipping rates. Do to our historic imbalance of trade I can deliver in many part of Europe far cheaper than from a distribution centre in the EU. I know a guy based in the Netherlands who for years has bought low value straw in the U.K. to deliver to his customers in. NL DE BE because the transport was cheaper than buying local. Mad but true. The only reason his business is now in doubt is due to customs. So another Brexit win. I don't need to look up shipping rates. It's cheaper for them to ship from BE-DE than it is from UK-DE regardless of tariffs. Labour rates I was wrong on, they're about the same as UK in BE. Besides all of that. These aren't 'job losses'." On shipping I can get a trailer from Manchester to the Ruhr for £400 feel free to get that rate from Belgium . It will be more . But I have to be honest and say the trucking rates aren’t that relevant in the JD . His profile is retail not wholesale so trucking not so important. He must be reasonably close to a railhead or port for container arrival. When he picks his distribution centre it must have good access to parcel companies so near airports etc. So NL/BE / De Ruhr Unless DHL offer him some mega deal in Slovenia or something which does happen. So he’s unlikely to be able to use low cost Eastern European staff. So staff costs will be the same or slightly more. Now the imports that used to come to the U.K. will now go straight to the EU so reducing the throughput of Rochdale as a percentage. More trade will therefore naturally be had in the EU centre. The jobs that he said will be moving will be the higher paid management who will be needed to set it all up. He can get pickers locally. So as the balance shifts the European centre will likely take over the U.K. as the U.K. only deals with U.K. sales. Without tariffs it wouldn’t make sense to have two distribution centres for a parcel set up as you just duplicate jobs for no reason. Without tariffs it would be easier to expand Rochdale. As you only have one head count of management Your own words due tariffs it will be cheaper to open this new warehouse in the EU. So jobs that would have come to the U.K. now won’t. I think that’s a negative outcome I ask again where did the new tariffs come from and why? | |||
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"Am I miss-reading the quote from this guy? “With the tariffs that apply, it would make a lot of economic sense to have a distribution centre in Europe as well the UK – it would mean the transfer of a number of jobs into Europe. It’s considerably worse than predicted.” WITH THE TARIFFS THAT APPLY IT WOULD MAKE ECONOMIC SENSE. Without those tariffs it would be financially the same to increase the warehouse operation in the U.K. but now with “tariffs”applying due to Brexit it’s better to open in the EU. IT WILL MEAN THE TRANSFER OF SOME JOBS. So new jobs not coming to U.K. due to Brexit imposed tariffs and some U.K. jobs moving to the EU due to Brexit imposed tariffs. He’s a growing business but sadly the benefits won’t be felt in the U.K. for employment. We will be losing out. As he also said “it’s worse than was predicted.” You have read it perfectly well. With tariffs that apply it would make economic sense. Add in labour rates and shipping rates and it's a no brainer. The quote about the transfer of jobs he also made but went back on it later to say no jobs in the UK would be affected. When did the tariffs arrive?. And Why? You need to look up shipping rates. Do to our historic imbalance of trade I can deliver in many part of Europe far cheaper than from a distribution centre in the EU. I know a guy based in the Netherlands who for years has bought low value straw in the U.K. to deliver to his customers in. NL DE BE because the transport was cheaper than buying local. Mad but true. The only reason his business is now in doubt is due to customs. So another Brexit win. I don't need to look up shipping rates. It's cheaper for them to ship from BE-DE than it is from UK-DE regardless of tariffs. Labour rates I was wrong on, they're about the same as UK in BE. Besides all of that. These aren't 'job losses'. On shipping I can get a trailer from Manchester to the Ruhr for £400 feel free to get that rate from Belgium . It will be more . But I have to be honest and say the trucking rates aren’t that relevant in the JD . His profile is retail not wholesale so trucking not so important. He must be reasonably close to a railhead or port for container arrival. When he picks his distribution centre it must have good access to parcel companies so near airports etc. So NL/BE / De Ruhr Unless DHL offer him some mega deal in Slovenia or something which does happen. So he’s unlikely to be able to use low cost Eastern European staff. So staff costs will be the same or slightly more. Now the imports that used to come to the U.K. will now go straight to the EU so reducing the throughput of Rochdale as a percentage. More trade will therefore naturally be had in the EU centre. The jobs that he said will be moving will be the higher paid management who will be needed to set it all up. He can get pickers locally. So as the balance shifts the European centre will likely take over the U.K. as the U.K. only deals with U.K. sales. Without tariffs it wouldn’t make sense to have two distribution centres for a parcel set up as you just duplicate jobs for no reason. Without tariffs it would be easier to expand Rochdale. As you only have one head count of management Your own words due tariffs it will be cheaper to open this new warehouse in the EU. So jobs that would have come to the U.K. now won’t. I think that’s a negative outcome I ask again where did the new tariffs come from and why? " You're trying to argue a different case. You wanna argue that the tariffs come from Brexit, which they do. I haven't denied that. I'm arguing that no one is losing their jobs as has been said by Cowgill. I know a lot of people wanna blame Brexit for everything that happens from here on forward but this is just a company opening a new hub. Simple as that. No jobs lost in the UK and more created in the EU. It's weird because before Brexit I never heard anyone say 'oh, Amazon have opened a new hub in Germany, that's so shit for the UK'. | |||
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"Am I miss-reading the quote from this guy? “With the tariffs that apply, it would make a lot of economic sense to have a distribution centre in Europe as well the UK – it would mean the transfer of a number of jobs into Europe. It’s considerably worse than predicted.” WITH THE TARIFFS THAT APPLY IT WOULD MAKE ECONOMIC SENSE. Without those tariffs it would be financially the same to increase the warehouse operation in the U.K. but now with “tariffs”applying due to Brexit it’s better to open in the EU. IT WILL MEAN THE TRANSFER OF SOME JOBS. So new jobs not coming to U.K. due to Brexit imposed tariffs and some U.K. jobs moving to the EU due to Brexit imposed tariffs. He’s a growing business but sadly the benefits won’t be felt in the U.K. for employment. We will be losing out. As he also said “it’s worse than was predicted.” You have read it perfectly well. With tariffs that apply it would make economic sense. Add in labour rates and shipping rates and it's a no brainer. The quote about the transfer of jobs he also made but went back on it later to say no jobs in the UK would be affected. When did the tariffs arrive?. And Why? You need to look up shipping rates. Do to our historic imbalance of trade I can deliver in many part of Europe far cheaper than from a distribution centre in the EU. I know a guy based in the Netherlands who for years has bought low value straw in the U.K. to deliver to his customers in. NL DE BE because the transport was cheaper than buying local. Mad but true. The only reason his business is now in doubt is due to customs. So another Brexit win. I don't need to look up shipping rates. It's cheaper for them to ship from BE-DE than it is from UK-DE regardless of tariffs. Labour rates I was wrong on, they're about the same as UK in BE. Besides all of that. These aren't 'job losses'. On shipping I can get a trailer from Manchester to the Ruhr for £400 feel free to get that rate from Belgium . It will be more . But I have to be honest and say the trucking rates aren’t that relevant in the JD . His profile is retail not wholesale so trucking not so important. He must be reasonably close to a railhead or port for container arrival. When he picks his distribution centre it must have good access to parcel companies so near airports etc. So NL/BE / De Ruhr Unless DHL offer him some mega deal in Slovenia or something which does happen. So he’s unlikely to be able to use low cost Eastern European staff. So staff costs will be the same or slightly more. Now the imports that used to come to the U.K. will now go straight to the EU so reducing the throughput of Rochdale as a percentage. More trade will therefore naturally be had in the EU centre. The jobs that he said will be moving will be the higher paid management who will be needed to set it all up. He can get pickers locally. So as the balance shifts the European centre will likely take over the U.K. as the U.K. only deals with U.K. sales. Without tariffs it wouldn’t make sense to have two distribution centres for a parcel set up as you just duplicate jobs for no reason. Without tariffs it would be easier to expand Rochdale. As you only have one head count of management Your own words due tariffs it will be cheaper to open this new warehouse in the EU. So jobs that would have come to the U.K. now won’t. I think that’s a negative outcome I ask again where did the new tariffs come from and why? You're trying to argue a different case. You wanna argue that the tariffs come from Brexit, which they do. I haven't denied that. I'm arguing that no one is losing their jobs as has been said by Cowgill. I know a lot of people wanna blame Brexit for everything that happens from here on forward but this is just a company opening a new hub. Simple as that. No jobs lost in the UK and more created in the EU. It's weird because before Brexit I never heard anyone say 'oh, Amazon have opened a new hub in Germany, that's so shit for the UK'." Do you think the expansion in Rochdale would make sense if the costs were comparable? I’m sure it would make sense for JD. He openly says due to tariffs. He didn’t say that by accident he knows it was going to be a public statement. Amazon is a global animal that doesn’t pay any tax in the relevant country of trade so yes I think they should be nailed just like the EU is trying to do. I don’t know the guy who runs JD sport or Jeff Bazos so I can’t comment on their personal morals I just see JD as a British company not looking to expand in the U.K. . Which like I said would make sense. It’s not this particular case in itself that concerns me it’s the principal that due to tariffs its not a good idea to invest in the U.K. . That sits squarely at the door of Brexit whether you consider it a loss or a missed opportunity is your own choice . | |||
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". I'm arguing that no one is losing their jobs as has been said by Cowgill. I know a lot of people wanna blame Brexit for everything that happens from here on forward but this is just a company opening a new hub. Simple as that. No jobs lost in the UK and more created in the EU. It's weird because before Brexit I never heard anyone say 'oh, Amazon have opened a new hub in Germany, that's so shit for the UK'." You're totally missing the point. I'm not arguing that Fred or Dave in a JD Sports warehouse in the UK is losing their job because of Brexit What is happening is that the UK is losing 1000 jobs through expansion that is now being shifted to the EU that was planned for the UK because of Brexit. Jobs not being created because investment has been moved because of Brexit is still classed as a loss due to a certain factor and that factor is Brexit. If Brexit hadn't happened then the UK would have gained these 1000 jobs through investment. | |||
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". I'm arguing that no one is losing their jobs as has been said by Cowgill. I know a lot of people wanna blame Brexit for everything that happens from here on forward but this is just a company opening a new hub. Simple as that. No jobs lost in the UK and more created in the EU. It's weird because before Brexit I never heard anyone say 'oh, Amazon have opened a new hub in Germany, that's so shit for the UK'. You're totally missing the point. I'm not arguing that Fred or Dave in a JD Sports warehouse in the UK is losing their job because of Brexit What is happening is that the UK is losing 1000 jobs through expansion that is now being shifted to the EU that was planned for the UK because of Brexit. Jobs not being created because investment has been moved because of Brexit is still classed as a loss due to a certain factor and that factor is Brexit. If Brexit hadn't happened then the UK would have gained these 1000 jobs through investment. " They arent missing the point. They are wilfully ignoring it. | |||
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". I'm arguing that no one is losing their jobs as has been said by Cowgill. I know a lot of people wanna blame Brexit for everything that happens from here on forward but this is just a company opening a new hub. Simple as that. No jobs lost in the UK and more created in the EU. It's weird because before Brexit I never heard anyone say 'oh, Amazon have opened a new hub in Germany, that's so shit for the UK'. You're totally missing the point. I'm not arguing that Fred or Dave in a JD Sports warehouse in the UK is losing their job because of Brexit What is happening is that the UK is losing 1000 jobs through expansion that is now being shifted to the EU that was planned for the UK because of Brexit. Jobs not being created because investment has been moved because of Brexit is still classed as a loss due to a certain factor and that factor is Brexit. If Brexit hadn't happened then the UK would have gained these 1000 jobs through investment. " I already linked the articles stating that there never was a plan to have yet another 1000 person warehouse in the UK, their UK sales are 40% up, and they'll be paying UK tax on profits made in their new European business. I'm struggling to see the bad news. | |||
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"They are wilfully ignoring it." brexaholic denial syndrome | |||
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"They are wilfully ignoring it. brexaholic denial syndrome" Just delusional I think. | |||
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"They are wilfully ignoring it. brexaholic denial syndrome Just delusional I think." They're just reading news that tells them everything is amazing because of what a great success brexit is. Meanwhile everything that's wrong with the country is still the fault of the EU, or the fault of remainers, or Woke brigade etc. | |||
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"perhaps the right are giving too much credence to their leaders of the 'ashleep' movement such as andrew neil telling them what to think." What about the left? | |||
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"perhaps the right are giving too much credence to their leaders of the 'ashleep' movement such as andrew neil telling them what to think." The new GB news looks hilarious, it has to be satire | |||
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"They are wilfully ignoring it. brexaholic denial syndrome Just delusional I think. They're just reading news that tells them everything is amazing because of what a great success brexit is. Meanwhile everything that's wrong with the country is still the fault of the EU, or the fault of remainers, or Woke brigade etc." "There are None so Blind as those who will not see". | |||
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"Perhaps I can interject alittle. I work with big logicistic companies throughout the UK. I talk to people on the ground in these companies. Here is what I Know. Since Jan 2020 getting goods into the UK has been a nightmare and utter shambles. It does not seem likely it will be fixed anytime soon. Companies recon 3-5years at best before we get some sort of agreement. Companies just cannot wait that long... Companies have to work around the current system and hmrc blockages. Many are opening EU distribution centres. WHY? Its Simple. Internal business to business goods transfer, rather than screwing around trying to gets goods into the UK without getting stuck in customs for 6weeks or more. All the major players are doing this. FREE TRADE NO LONGER EXISTS!!! Sorry to burst those brexit rose tinted glasses! The rub - Had a free trade agreement been set before Brexit. Alot of these distribution centres would not be required and the expansion would have been more UK driven. You can argue over 1000 jobs here or there. But that is the facts. " Dont worry Someone will be along any minute to say its nothing to do with Brexit, or its the businesses own fault or its all to do with the eu. | |||
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"Perhaps I can interject alittle. I work with big logicistic companies throughout the UK. I talk to people on the ground in these companies. Here is what I Know. Since Jan 2020 getting goods into the UK has been a nightmare and utter shambles. It does not seem likely it will be fixed anytime soon. Companies recon 3-5years at best before we get some sort of agreement. Companies just cannot wait that long... Companies have to work around the current system and hmrc blockages. Many are opening EU distribution centres. WHY? Its Simple. Internal business to business goods transfer, rather than screwing around trying to gets goods into the UK without getting stuck in customs for 6weeks or more. All the major players are doing this. FREE TRADE NO LONGER EXISTS!!! Sorry to burst those brexit rose tinted glasses! The rub - Had a free trade agreement been set before Brexit. Alot of these distribution centres would not be required and the expansion would have been more UK driven. You can argue over 1000 jobs here or there. But that is the facts. " Ain’t this the truth!, nice post | |||
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"For some balance: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56044610" From that BBC link “Overall freight flows have returned to the same levels as last year. Internal figures seen by the BBC show outbound roll-on roll-off lorry traffic for Great Britain for the month so far at 98% of last February's levels. Inbound traffic is at 99% of last year's levels.” Even with Covid that’s a fantastic trade figure. Can someone just make a not of that on that Brexit Bonus tracker cheers. | |||
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"For some balance: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56044610" That's a good read. I scanned it, but I'll come back to it for a proper look. What does that mean for the big lorry parks that the government constructed in Kent? | |||
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"For some balance: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56044610 That's a good read. I scanned it, but I'll come back to it for a proper look. What does that mean for the big lorry parks that the government constructed in Kent?" Giant go-kart track ? | |||
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"There are people on this thread who would normally be slating the likes of JD Sports yet here they are taking every word they say as gospel. Strange Same sort of trend as the most strident remainer open borders folks who've been banging the table demanding Boris shut all the borders and man then with machine guns. The mental gymnastics remainers have to go through are extraordinary. " Mental gymnastics is rejecting a deal, changing the author's name and then supporting the same deal, refusing to allow enough time for everyone involved to read the deal and then finding faults with large parts of the deal after it's all been agreed. All while blaming any problems in the deal on people who didn't want it, didn't get a chance to scrutinise it and predicted said problems. Mental gymnastics is not a desire to maintain freedom of movement but thinking maybe we should pause it for a bit while we sort out the pandemic. | |||
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"For some balance: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56044610 From that BBC link “Overall freight flows have returned to the same levels as last year. Internal figures seen by the BBC show outbound roll-on roll-off lorry traffic for Great Britain for the month so far at 98% of last February's levels. Inbound traffic is at 99% of last year's levels.” Even with Covid that’s a fantastic trade figure. Can someone just make a not of that on that Brexit Bonus tracker cheers." * ** ** ***** However, their analysis of data from multiple sources - ferry manifests, port traffic, the Channel Tunnel, French officials and Kent Permit checks - also shows: significantly lower traffic in Januarya notable rise in the number of empty lorries returning from Great Britain to the European Union, andspecific industries clearly affected by the end of the Brexit transition period Lorry traffic on the crossing from Kent to the EU on ferries and via the Channel Tunnel in January was 67% of the same month in 2020, and 82% in February. Although there is no formal count of empty lorries, a variety of ferry company, French, and UK official data suggest the proportion of empty lorries going back to the EU at around 50%. French sources suggested Eurotunnel, which tends to transfer higher-value loads, was seeing 50-60% empty loads. Industry sources said the existence of such empty lorries was not new, but that this was normally at 25-30%. ** ** If you are going to wuote only the Nice good brexit bit, I suppose its only fair to post the bad brexit bit from the same article . | |||
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"For some balance: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56044610 That's a good read. I scanned it, but I'll come back to it for a proper look. What does that mean for the big lorry parks that the government constructed in Kent? Giant go-kart track ? "Good suggestion but why aren't they being used for the original purpose | |||
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Good suggestion but why aren't they being used for the original purpose"I will use the often used excuse, it is because of the pandemic, apparently less supply and demand | |||
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Good suggestion but why aren't they being used for the original purpose"Apparently it’s bad news the lorries aren’t parked up, according to remainers. | |||
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Good suggestion but why aren't they being used for the original purpose
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"For some balance: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56044610 From that BBC link “Overall freight flows have returned to the same levels as last year. Internal figures seen by the BBC show outbound roll-on roll-off lorry traffic for Great Britain for the month so far at 98% of last February's levels. Inbound traffic is at 99% of last year's levels.” Even with Covid that’s a fantastic trade figure. Can someone just make a not of that on that Brexit Bonus tracker cheers." 50% empty outbound fact. It’s bullshit on the lack of delays and all down to traffic management. I’ve written to the BBC to fact check this as the delays are not at the port they were at inland customs posts but trucks are not allowed to go to those posts until certain procedures are carried out which take min 1-2 hours. At the inland border post the wait is min 2 hours according to HMRC own written procedure. Prior to Brexit our truck took three min to clear Dover checks . This is fact not Gove spin . But you keep on with your empire references as yes we are the best a queueing in the world . Give stars there. | |||
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" “Overall freight flows have returned to the same levels as last year. Internal figures seen by the BBC show outbound roll-on roll-off lorry traffic for Great Britain for the month so far at 98% of last February's levels. Inbound traffic is at 99% of It’s bullshit on the lack of delays and all down to traffic management. I’ve written to the BBC to fact check this as the delays are not at the port they were at inland customs posts but trucks are not allowed to go to those posts until certain procedures are carried out which take min 1-2 hours. At the inland border post the wait is min 2 hours according to HMRC own written procedure. Prior to Brexit our truck took three min to clear Dover checks . This is fact not Gove spin . But you keep on with your empire references as yes we are the best a queueing in the world . Give stars there. " I concur. The company I work for have delayed imports an exports between Germany / Ireland and the UK of between 4-6 weeks all due to clearing customs issues at the ports in the south. They are just not up to speed and can't cope with the new format yet. Plus covid and online shopping trends. They are swamped! We have put in place a work around transferring goods to Irish ports which is bypassing the UK ports customs completely purely due to the time scales. I feel sorry for the fresh food and flower markets the most. They are being hit hard. They just can't get produce into the country. | |||
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"Weird how people who provide 1st had evidence are wilfully ignored Apparently being still being able to buy food is a brexit benefit. " #winning | |||
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"Weird how people who provide 1st had evidence are wilfully ignored " Go down to your local supermarket, they will provide you with real evidence. A couple of disgruntled ramblings can be wilfully ignored | |||
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"Weird how people who provide 1st had evidence are wilfully ignored Go down to your local supermarket, they will provide you with real evidence. A couple of disgruntled ramblings can be wilfully ignored " Did you read my post was on exports?. There are no serious checks or customs for imports until July due to government decree to stop the shelves being empty. It’s why the trucks are coming in loaded but going out empty. They are avoiding the hold ups on exports which we in the U.K. can’t. The cost to my business assures me it’s not down to “ramblings”. Our transport companies rates to us will be going up in March. We will be increasing our prices to our clients. I’m sure they will be delighted with that Brexit benefit. | |||
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"Shelves stocked Ports reporting near normal volume and flow of traffic. Where are the delayed trucks/loads being hidden, and why are the shelves stocked - shouldn’t there be full lorry parks and empty shelves ??? " Again export hold ups are the problem. Feel free to check on those supermarkets shelves in France or is that CGI ? | |||
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"Shelves stocked Ports reporting near normal volume and flow of traffic. Where are the delayed trucks/loads being hidden, and why are the shelves stocked - shouldn’t there be full lorry parks and empty shelves ??? Again export hold ups are the problem. Feel free to check on those supermarkets shelves in France or is that CGI ? " Surely export delays would result in stacked up trucks in U.K? Are the french press reporting/showing empty shelves ? I’m not suggesting there aren’t issues, but surely it needs a balanced view rather than a everything is shit or everything is great perspective . | |||
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"Weird how people who provide 1st had evidence are wilfully ignored Go down to your local supermarket, they will provide you with real evidence. A couple of disgruntled ramblings can be wilfully ignored " Ha ha ha ha Ignore people who actually working in the import and export business and go and ask sheila on the tills in the asda Crying here | |||
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"Weird how people who provide 1st had evidence are wilfully ignored Go down to your local supermarket, they will provide you with real evidence. A couple of disgruntled ramblings can be wilfully ignored Did you read my post was on exports?. There are no serious checks or customs for imports until July due to government decree to stop the shelves being empty. It’s why the trucks are coming in loaded but going out empty. They are avoiding the hold ups on exports which we in the U.K. can’t. The cost to my business assures me it’s not down to “ramblings”. Our transport companies rates to us will be going up in March. We will be increasing our prices to our clients. I’m sure they will be delighted with that Brexit benefit. " Can we expect empty shelves in July once the checks start? | |||
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"Weird how people who provide 1st had evidence are wilfully ignored Go down to your local supermarket, they will provide you with real evidence. A couple of disgruntled ramblings can be wilfully ignored Did you read my post was on exports?. There are no serious checks or customs for imports until July due to government decree to stop the shelves being empty. It’s why the trucks are coming in loaded but going out empty. They are avoiding the hold ups on exports which we in the U.K. can’t. The cost to my business assures me it’s not down to “ramblings”. Our transport companies rates to us will be going up in March. We will be increasing our prices to our clients. I’m sure they will be delighted with that Brexit benefit. Can we expect empty shelves in July once the checks start?" They won’t be ‘empty’, are we now at the point where food on supermarket shelves is a ‘Brexit benefit ‘ | |||
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"Shelves stocked Ports reporting near normal volume and flow of traffic. Where are the delayed trucks/loads being hidden, and why are the shelves stocked - shouldn’t there be full lorry parks and empty shelves ??? Again export hold ups are the problem. Feel free to check on those supermarkets shelves in France or is that CGI ? Surely export delays would result in stacked up trucks in U.K? Are the french press reporting/showing empty shelves ? I’m not suggesting there aren’t issues, but surely it needs a balanced view rather than a everything is shit or everything is great perspective . " I can give you a balance view . Firstly HMRC are getting better . The exporting trucks aren’t allowed near the inland customs sites without the paperwork being processed first so they wait at factories or in lay-bys this can take up to three or four hours but has recently come down to two. When they then are allowed to go into to the customs site they then have to wait for their paperwork in person and HMRC own published guidelines say expect a two hour wait . Best we’ve done is 1 hour worst 27 hours. Our paperwork is good so not our fault. So yes the trucks are waiting and yes they are having to divert off route sometimes bloody long ways off route and the average rig costing 100- 140k they don’t and won’t do this diverting and waiting for free. The other aspect to be aware of is that at least two thirds of their round trip revenue is received on the import so that’s where the profit is. So are they going to take a crap paid delayed export job or just go back empty and charge a little more on the next import where their profit is. It basic economics that they don’t want the hassle or delays which results in declining the U.K. export jobs . | |||
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"Weird how people who provide 1st had evidence are wilfully ignored Go down to your local supermarket, they will provide you with real evidence. A couple of disgruntled ramblings can be wilfully ignored Did you read my post was on exports?. There are no serious checks or customs for imports until July due to government decree to stop the shelves being empty. It’s why the trucks are coming in loaded but going out empty. They are avoiding the hold ups on exports which we in the U.K. can’t. The cost to my business assures me it’s not down to “ramblings”. Our transport companies rates to us will be going up in March. We will be increasing our prices to our clients. I’m sure they will be delighted with that Brexit benefit. Can we expect empty shelves in July once the checks start?" HMRC are desperately recruiting and in addition putting pressure on the delayed IT system. If they don’t get it right we will have big import problem s but I would suspect the government will look at the supplier and let them in on trust to do retrospective clearance on all loads. Ie catch up at the weekends paperwork. It would be a PR disaster of year highest level so my money is saying even if there are problems they won’t be massive but hauliers will incur delays and costs so stuff will get pricier . Cause and effect. To give you an idea of the quality of the ministers managing this. At a FTA /RHA meeting the minister said they are considering using the inland border sites as import customs checking facilities for all truck imports including those outside the EU. It was only when it was pointed out that drugs guns and illegal immigrants could be dropped off at the services first before going to these sites that they decided it wasn’t such a good idea after all. | |||
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"Shelves stocked Ports reporting near normal volume and flow of traffic. Where are the delayed trucks/loads being hidden, and why are the shelves stocked - shouldn’t there be full lorry parks and empty shelves ??? Again export hold ups are the problem. Feel free to check on those supermarkets shelves in France or is that CGI ? Surely export delays would result in stacked up trucks in U.K? Are the french press reporting/showing empty shelves ? I’m not suggesting there aren’t issues, but surely it needs a balanced view rather than a everything is shit or everything is great perspective . I can give you a balance view . Firstly HMRC are getting better . The exporting trucks aren’t allowed near the inland customs sites without the paperwork being processed first so they wait at factories or in lay-bys this can take up to three or four hours but has recently come down to two. When they then are allowed to go into to the customs site they then have to wait for their paperwork in person and HMRC own published guidelines say expect a two hour wait . Best we’ve done is 1 hour worst 27 hours. Our paperwork is good so not our fault. So yes the trucks are waiting and yes they are having to divert off route sometimes bloody long ways off route and the average rig costing 100- 140k they don’t and won’t do this diverting and waiting for free. The other aspect to be aware of is that at least two thirds of their round trip revenue is received on the import so that’s where the profit is. So are they going to take a crap paid delayed export job or just go back empty and charge a little more on the next import where their profit is. It basic economics that they don’t want the hassle or delays which results in declining the U.K. export jobs . " I have no reason to think your opinion is not true, in the same way that any other pieces of information I pick up or read are not correct. I’m quite happy to assess a wide range of information and form my own balance view thanks | |||
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"Weird how people who provide 1st had evidence are wilfully ignored Go down to your local supermarket, they will provide you with real evidence. A couple of disgruntled ramblings can be wilfully ignored Did you read my post was on exports?. There are no serious checks or customs for imports until July due to government decree to stop the shelves being empty. It’s why the trucks are coming in loaded but going out empty. They are avoiding the hold ups on exports which we in the U.K. can’t. The cost to my business assures me it’s not down to “ramblings”. Our transport companies rates to us will be going up in March. We will be increasing our prices to our clients. I’m sure they will be delighted with that Brexit benefit. Can we expect empty shelves in July once the checks start? They won’t be ‘empty’, are we now at the point where food on supermarket shelves is a ‘Brexit benefit ‘ "Where did I claim that? I simply asked a question to someone who appears to work in the area. Please stop trying to twist my words | |||
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"Weird how people who provide 1st had evidence are wilfully ignored Go down to your local supermarket, they will provide you with real evidence. A couple of disgruntled ramblings can be wilfully ignored Did you read my post was on exports?. There are no serious checks or customs for imports until July due to government decree to stop the shelves being empty. It’s why the trucks are coming in loaded but going out empty. They are avoiding the hold ups on exports which we in the U.K. can’t. The cost to my business assures me it’s not down to “ramblings”. Our transport companies rates to us will be going up in March. We will be increasing our prices to our clients. I’m sure they will be delighted with that Brexit benefit. Can we expect empty shelves in July once the checks start? They won’t be ‘empty’, are we now at the point where food on supermarket shelves is a ‘Brexit benefit ‘
Where did I claim that? I simply asked a question to someone who appears to work in the area. Please stop trying to twist my words"I answered the question, the supermarket shelves will not be ‘empty’ . | |||
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"Weird how people who provide 1st had evidence are wilfully ignored Go down to your local supermarket, they will provide you with real evidence. A couple of disgruntled ramblings can be wilfully ignored Did you read my post was on exports?. There are no serious checks or customs for imports until July due to government decree to stop the shelves being empty. It’s why the trucks are coming in loaded but going out empty. They are avoiding the hold ups on exports which we in the U.K. can’t. The cost to my business assures me it’s not down to “ramblings”. Our transport companies rates to us will be going up in March. We will be increasing our prices to our clients. I’m sure they will be delighted with that Brexit benefit. Can we expect empty shelves in July once the checks start? HMRC are desperately recruiting and in addition putting pressure on the delayed IT system. If they don’t get it right we will have big import problem s but I would suspect the government will look at the supplier and let them in on trust to do retrospective clearance on all loads. Ie catch up at the weekends paperwork. It would be a PR disaster of year highest level so my money is saying even if there are problems they won’t be massive but hauliers will incur delays and costs so stuff will get pricier . Cause and effect. To give you an idea of the quality of the ministers managing this. At a FTA /RHA meeting the minister said they are considering using the inland border sites as import customs checking facilities for all truck imports including those outside the EU. It was only when it was pointed out that drugs guns and illegal immigrants could be dropped off at the services first before going to these sites that they decided it wasn’t such a good idea after all. "Thank you for the reply. So if they avoid empty shelf's then it will be at the cost of increased prices. Will have to keep an eye on it. so far prices have gone down on my normal weekly shopping but will brace for an increase in July onwards | |||
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"Weird how people who provide 1st had evidence are wilfully ignored Go down to your local supermarket, they will provide you with real evidence. A couple of disgruntled ramblings can be wilfully ignored Did you read my post was on exports?. There are no serious checks or customs for imports until July due to government decree to stop the shelves being empty. It’s why the trucks are coming in loaded but going out empty. They are avoiding the hold ups on exports which we in the U.K. can’t. The cost to my business assures me it’s not down to “ramblings”. Our transport companies rates to us will be going up in March. We will be increasing our prices to our clients. I’m sure they will be delighted with that Brexit benefit. Can we expect empty shelves in July once the checks start? HMRC are desperately recruiting and in addition putting pressure on the delayed IT system. If they don’t get it right we will have big import problem s but I would suspect the government will look at the supplier and let them in on trust to do retrospective clearance on all loads. Ie catch up at the weekends paperwork. It would be a PR disaster of year highest level so my money is saying even if there are problems they won’t be massive but hauliers will incur delays and costs so stuff will get pricier . Cause and effect. To give you an idea of the quality of the ministers managing this. At a FTA /RHA meeting the minister said they are considering using the inland border sites as import customs checking facilities for all truck imports including those outside the EU. It was only when it was pointed out that drugs guns and illegal immigrants could be dropped off at the services first before going to these sites that they decided it wasn’t such a good idea after all.
Thank you for the reply. So if they avoid empty shelf's then it will be at the cost of increased prices. Will have to keep an eye on it. so far prices have gone down on my normal weekly shopping but will brace for an increase in July onwards"Costs have to be passed on at some point but not knowing what you buy I can’t comment. You may just buy Heinz beans for all know. | |||
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"Weird how people who provide 1st had evidence are wilfully ignored Go down to your local supermarket, they will provide you with real evidence. A couple of disgruntled ramblings can be wilfully ignored Did you read my post was on exports?. There are no serious checks or customs for imports until July due to government decree to stop the shelves being empty. It’s why the trucks are coming in loaded but going out empty. They are avoiding the hold ups on exports which we in the U.K. can’t. The cost to my business assures me it’s not down to “ramblings”. Our transport companies rates to us will be going up in March. We will be increasing our prices to our clients. I’m sure they will be delighted with that Brexit benefit. Can we expect empty shelves in July once the checks start? HMRC are desperately recruiting and in addition putting pressure on the delayed IT system. If they don’t get it right we will have big import problem s but I would suspect the government will look at the supplier and let them in on trust to do retrospective clearance on all loads. Ie catch up at the weekends paperwork. It would be a PR disaster of year highest level so my money is saying even if there are problems they won’t be massive but hauliers will incur delays and costs so stuff will get pricier . Cause and effect. To give you an idea of the quality of the ministers managing this. At a FTA /RHA meeting the minister said they are considering using the inland border sites as import customs checking facilities for all truck imports including those outside the EU. It was only when it was pointed out that drugs guns and illegal immigrants could be dropped off at the services first before going to these sites that they decided it wasn’t such a good idea after all.
Thank you for the reply. So if they avoid empty shelf's then it will be at the cost of increased prices. Will have to keep an eye on it. so far prices have gone down on my normal weekly shopping but will brace for an increase in July onwards
Costs have to be passed on at some point but not knowing what you buy I can’t comment. You may just buy Heinz beans for all know. "LOl no more than beans. Just your normal day to day stuff we all buy. So far prices down but from what you say we will all be facing higher prices in the summer. I am guessing the problems you mention will be for all imports therefore will affect even normal weekly shop. | |||
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"Weird how people who provide 1st had evidence are wilfully ignored Go down to your local supermarket, they will provide you with real evidence. A couple of disgruntled ramblings can be wilfully ignored Did you read my post was on exports?. There are no serious checks or customs for imports until July due to government decree to stop the shelves being empty. It’s why the trucks are coming in loaded but going out empty. They are avoiding the hold ups on exports which we in the U.K. can’t. The cost to my business assures me it’s not down to “ramblings”. Our transport companies rates to us will be going up in March. We will be increasing our prices to our clients. I’m sure they will be delighted with that Brexit benefit. Can we expect empty shelves in July once the checks start? HMRC are desperately recruiting and in addition putting pressure on the delayed IT system. If they don’t get it right we will have big import problem s but I would suspect the government will look at the supplier and let them in on trust to do retrospective clearance on all loads. Ie catch up at the weekends paperwork. It would be a PR disaster of year highest level so my money is saying even if there are problems they won’t be massive but hauliers will incur delays and costs so stuff will get pricier . Cause and effect. To give you an idea of the quality of the ministers managing this. At a FTA /RHA meeting the minister said they are considering using the inland border sites as import customs checking facilities for all truck imports including those outside the EU. It was only when it was pointed out that drugs guns and illegal immigrants could be dropped off at the services first before going to these sites that they decided it wasn’t such a good idea after all.
Thank you for the reply. So if they avoid empty shelf's then it will be at the cost of increased prices. Will have to keep an eye on it. so far prices have gone down on my normal weekly shopping but will brace for an increase in July onwards
Costs have to be passed on at some point but not knowing what you buy I can’t comment. You may just buy Heinz beans for all know.
LOl no more than beans. Just your normal day to day stuff we all buy. So far prices down but from what you say we will all be facing higher prices in the summer. I am guessing the problems you mention will be for all imports therefore will affect even normal weekly shop. "No For example the beans in a can are from North America and processed in the U.K. . The cans are made in the U.K. steel is made in the U.K. so the only thing possibly effected with the can will be the tomatoes from southern Europe. So it will be at most pennies on a can. Like I said it depends on your lifestyle choices a lot. | |||
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"Weird how people who provide 1st had evidence are wilfully ignored Go down to your local supermarket, they will provide you with real evidence. A couple of disgruntled ramblings can be wilfully ignored Did you read my post was on exports?. There are no serious checks or customs for imports until July due to government decree to stop the shelves being empty. It’s why the trucks are coming in loaded but going out empty. They are avoiding the hold ups on exports which we in the U.K. can’t. The cost to my business assures me it’s not down to “ramblings”. Our transport companies rates to us will be going up in March. We will be increasing our prices to our clients. I’m sure they will be delighted with that Brexit benefit. Can we expect empty shelves in July once the checks start? HMRC are desperately recruiting and in addition putting pressure on the delayed IT system. If they don’t get it right we will have big import problem s but I would suspect the government will look at the supplier and let them in on trust to do retrospective clearance on all loads. Ie catch up at the weekends paperwork. It would be a PR disaster of year highest level so my money is saying even if there are problems they won’t be massive but hauliers will incur delays and costs so stuff will get pricier . Cause and effect. To give you an idea of the quality of the ministers managing this. At a FTA /RHA meeting the minister said they are considering using the inland border sites as import customs checking facilities for all truck imports including those outside the EU. It was only when it was pointed out that drugs guns and illegal immigrants could be dropped off at the services first before going to these sites that they decided it wasn’t such a good idea after all.
Thank you for the reply. So if they avoid empty shelf's then it will be at the cost of increased prices. Will have to keep an eye on it. so far prices have gone down on my normal weekly shopping but will brace for an increase in July onwards
Costs have to be passed on at some point but not knowing what you buy I can’t comment. You may just buy Heinz beans for all know.
LOl no more than beans. Just your normal day to day stuff we all buy. So far prices down but from what you say we will all be facing higher prices in the summer. I am guessing the problems you mention will be for all imports therefore will affect even normal weekly shop.
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For example the beans in a can are from North America and processed in the U.K. .
The cans are made in the U.K.
steel is made in the U.K. so the only thing possibly effected with the can will be the tomatoes from southern Europe. So it will be at most pennies on a can.
Like I said it depends on your lifestyle choices a lot.
"Steel from the UK... beans from America, tomatoes from Europe... yet you remainers all keep moaning how nothing works.... irony free zone. | |||
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"Weird how people who provide 1st had evidence are wilfully ignored Go down to your local supermarket, they will provide you with real evidence. A couple of disgruntled ramblings can be wilfully ignored Did you read my post was on exports?. There are no serious checks or customs for imports until July due to government decree to stop the shelves being empty. It’s why the trucks are coming in loaded but going out empty. They are avoiding the hold ups on exports which we in the U.K. can’t. The cost to my business assures me it’s not down to “ramblings”. Our transport companies rates to us will be going up in March. We will be increasing our prices to our clients. I’m sure they will be delighted with that Brexit benefit. Can we expect empty shelves in July once the checks start? HMRC are desperately recruiting and in addition putting pressure on the delayed IT system. If they don’t get it right we will have big import problem s but I would suspect the government will look at the supplier and let them in on trust to do retrospective clearance on all loads. Ie catch up at the weekends paperwork. It would be a PR disaster of year highest level so my money is saying even if there are problems they won’t be massive but hauliers will incur delays and costs so stuff will get pricier . Cause and effect. To give you an idea of the quality of the ministers managing this. At a FTA /RHA meeting the minister said they are considering using the inland border sites as import customs checking facilities for all truck imports including those outside the EU. It was only when it was pointed out that drugs guns and illegal immigrants could be dropped off at the services first before going to these sites that they decided it wasn’t such a good idea after all.
Thank you for the reply. So if they avoid empty shelf's then it will be at the cost of increased prices. Will have to keep an eye on it. so far prices have gone down on my normal weekly shopping but will brace for an increase in July onwards
Costs have to be passed on at some point but not knowing what you buy I can’t comment. You may just buy Heinz beans for all know.
LOl no more than beans. Just your normal day to day stuff we all buy. So far prices down but from what you say we will all be facing higher prices in the summer. I am guessing the problems you mention will be for all imports therefore will affect even normal weekly shop.
No
For example the beans in a can are from North America and processed in the U.K. .
The cans are made in the U.K.
steel is made in the U.K. so the only thing possibly effected with the can will be the tomatoes from southern Europe. So it will be at most pennies on a can.
Like I said it depends on your lifestyle choices a lot.
Steel from the UK... beans from America, tomatoes from Europe... yet you remainers all keep moaning how nothing works.... irony free zone. "You can’t make steel without Iron | |||
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"Weird how people who provide 1st had evidence are wilfully ignored Go down to your local supermarket, they will provide you with real evidence. A couple of disgruntled ramblings can be wilfully ignored Did you read my post was on exports?. There are no serious checks or customs for imports until July due to government decree to stop the shelves being empty. It’s why the trucks are coming in loaded but going out empty. They are avoiding the hold ups on exports which we in the U.K. can’t. The cost to my business assures me it’s not down to “ramblings”. Our transport companies rates to us will be going up in March. We will be increasing our prices to our clients. I’m sure they will be delighted with that Brexit benefit. Can we expect empty shelves in July once the checks start? HMRC are desperately recruiting and in addition putting pressure on the delayed IT system. If they don’t get it right we will have big import problem s but I would suspect the government will look at the supplier and let them in on trust to do retrospective clearance on all loads. Ie catch up at the weekends paperwork. It would be a PR disaster of year highest level so my money is saying even if there are problems they won’t be massive but hauliers will incur delays and costs so stuff will get pricier . Cause and effect. To give you an idea of the quality of the ministers managing this. At a FTA /RHA meeting the minister said they are considering using the inland border sites as import customs checking facilities for all truck imports including those outside the EU. It was only when it was pointed out that drugs guns and illegal immigrants could be dropped off at the services first before going to these sites that they decided it wasn’t such a good idea after all.
Thank you for the reply. So if they avoid empty shelf's then it will be at the cost of increased prices. Will have to keep an eye on it. so far prices have gone down on my normal weekly shopping but will brace for an increase in July onwards
Costs have to be passed on at some point but not knowing what you buy I can’t comment. You may just buy Heinz beans for all know.
LOl no more than beans. Just your normal day to day stuff we all buy. So far prices down but from what you say we will all be facing higher prices in the summer. I am guessing the problems you mention will be for all imports therefore will affect even normal weekly shop.
No
For example the beans in a can are from North America and processed in the U.K. .
The cans are made in the U.K.
steel is made in the U.K. so the only thing possibly effected with the can will be the tomatoes from southern Europe. So it will be at most pennies on a can.
Like I said it depends on your lifestyle choices a lot.
Steel from the UK... beans from America, tomatoes from Europe... yet you remainers all keep moaning how nothing works.... irony free zone.
You can’t make steel without Iron"Indeed, good point, iron from Australia. We are becoming more and more global and out looking, maybe that’s what parochial remainers don’t like, glad you agree, you’re getting there | |||
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"Weird how people who provide 1st had evidence are wilfully ignored Go down to your local supermarket, they will provide you with real evidence. A couple of disgruntled ramblings can be wilfully ignored Did you read my post was on exports?. There are no serious checks or customs for imports until July due to government decree to stop the shelves being empty. It’s why the trucks are coming in loaded but going out empty. They are avoiding the hold ups on exports which we in the U.K. can’t. The cost to my business assures me it’s not down to “ramblings”. Our transport companies rates to us will be going up in March. We will be increasing our prices to our clients. I’m sure they will be delighted with that Brexit benefit. Can we expect empty shelves in July once the checks start? HMRC are desperately recruiting and in addition putting pressure on the delayed IT system. If they don’t get it right we will have big import problem s but I would suspect the government will look at the supplier and let them in on trust to do retrospective clearance on all loads. Ie catch up at the weekends paperwork. It would be a PR disaster of year highest level so my money is saying even if there are problems they won’t be massive but hauliers will incur delays and costs so stuff will get pricier . Cause and effect. To give you an idea of the quality of the ministers managing this. At a FTA /RHA meeting the minister said they are considering using the inland border sites as import customs checking facilities for all truck imports including those outside the EU. It was only when it was pointed out that drugs guns and illegal immigrants could be dropped off at the services first before going to these sites that they decided it wasn’t such a good idea after all.
Thank you for the reply. So if they avoid empty shelf's then it will be at the cost of increased prices. Will have to keep an eye on it. so far prices have gone down on my normal weekly shopping but will brace for an increase in July onwards
Costs have to be passed on at some point but not knowing what you buy I can’t comment. You may just buy Heinz beans for all know.
LOl no more than beans. Just your normal day to day stuff we all buy. So far prices down but from what you say we will all be facing higher prices in the summer. I am guessing the problems you mention will be for all imports therefore will affect even normal weekly shop.
No
For example the beans in a can are from North America and processed in the U.K. .
The cans are made in the U.K.
steel is made in the U.K. so the only thing possibly effected with the can will be the tomatoes from southern Europe. So it will be at most pennies on a can.
Like I said it depends on your lifestyle choices a lot.
Steel from the UK... beans from America, tomatoes from Europe... yet you remainers all keep moaning how nothing works.... irony free zone.
You can’t make steel without Iron
Indeed, good point, iron from Australia. We are becoming more and more global and out looking, maybe that’s what parochial remainers don’t like, glad you agree, you’re getting there "Importing iron from Australia?? Haha, brilliant | |||
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"Weird how people who provide 1st had evidence are wilfully ignored Go down to your local supermarket, they will provide you with real evidence. A couple of disgruntled ramblings can be wilfully ignored Did you read my post was on exports?. There are no serious checks or customs for imports until July due to government decree to stop the shelves being empty. It’s why the trucks are coming in loaded but going out empty. They are avoiding the hold ups on exports which we in the U.K. can’t. The cost to my business assures me it’s not down to “ramblings”. Our transport companies rates to us will be going up in March. We will be increasing our prices to our clients. I’m sure they will be delighted with that Brexit benefit. Can we expect empty shelves in July once the checks start? HMRC are desperately recruiting and in addition putting pressure on the delayed IT system. If they don’t get it right we will have big import problem s but I would suspect the government will look at the supplier and let them in on trust to do retrospective clearance on all loads. Ie catch up at the weekends paperwork. It would be a PR disaster of year highest level so my money is saying even if there are problems they won’t be massive but hauliers will incur delays and costs so stuff will get pricier . Cause and effect. To give you an idea of the quality of the ministers managing this. At a FTA /RHA meeting the minister said they are considering using the inland border sites as import customs checking facilities for all truck imports including those outside the EU. It was only when it was pointed out that drugs guns and illegal immigrants could be dropped off at the services first before going to these sites that they decided it wasn’t such a good idea after all.
Thank you for the reply. So if they avoid empty shelf's then it will be at the cost of increased prices. Will have to keep an eye on it. so far prices have gone down on my normal weekly shopping but will brace for an increase in July onwards
Costs have to be passed on at some point but not knowing what you buy I can’t comment. You may just buy Heinz beans for all know.
LOl no more than beans. Just your normal day to day stuff we all buy. So far prices down but from what you say we will all be facing higher prices in the summer. I am guessing the problems you mention will be for all imports therefore will affect even normal weekly shop.
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For example the beans in a can are from North America and processed in the U.K. .
The cans are made in the U.K.
steel is made in the U.K. so the only thing possibly effected with the can will be the tomatoes from southern Europe. So it will be at most pennies on a can.
Like I said it depends on your lifestyle choices a lot.
Steel from the UK... beans from America, tomatoes from Europe... yet you remainers all keep moaning how nothing works.... irony free zone.
You can’t make steel without Iron
Indeed, good point, iron from Australia. We are becoming more and more global and out looking, maybe that’s what parochial remainers don’t like, glad you agree, you’re getting there
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"Weird how people who provide 1st had evidence are wilfully ignored Go down to your local supermarket, they will provide you with real evidence. A couple of disgruntled ramblings can be wilfully ignored Did you read my post was on exports?. There are no serious checks or customs for imports until July due to government decree to stop the shelves being empty. It’s why the trucks are coming in loaded but going out empty. They are avoiding the hold ups on exports which we in the U.K. can’t. The cost to my business assures me it’s not down to “ramblings”. Our transport companies rates to us will be going up in March. We will be increasing our prices to our clients. I’m sure they will be delighted with that Brexit benefit. Can we expect empty shelves in July once the checks start? HMRC are desperately recruiting and in addition putting pressure on the delayed IT system. If they don’t get it right we will have big import problem s but I would suspect the government will look at the supplier and let them in on trust to do retrospective clearance on all loads. Ie catch up at the weekends paperwork. It would be a PR disaster of year highest level so my money is saying even if there are problems they won’t be massive but hauliers will incur delays and costs so stuff will get pricier . Cause and effect. To give you an idea of the quality of the ministers managing this. At a FTA /RHA meeting the minister said they are considering using the inland border sites as import customs checking facilities for all truck imports including those outside the EU. It was only when it was pointed out that drugs guns and illegal immigrants could be dropped off at the services first before going to these sites that they decided it wasn’t such a good idea after all.
Thank you for the reply. So if they avoid empty shelf's then it will be at the cost of increased prices. Will have to keep an eye on it. so far prices have gone down on my normal weekly shopping but will brace for an increase in July onwards
Costs have to be passed on at some point but not knowing what you buy I can’t comment. You may just buy Heinz beans for all know.
LOl no more than beans. Just your normal day to day stuff we all buy. So far prices down but from what you say we will all be facing higher prices in the summer. I am guessing the problems you mention will be for all imports therefore will affect even normal weekly shop.
No
For example the beans in a can are from North America and processed in the U.K. .
The cans are made in the U.K.
steel is made in the U.K. so the only thing possibly effected with the can will be the tomatoes from southern Europe. So it will be at most pennies on a can.
Like I said it depends on your lifestyle choices a lot.
Steel from the UK... beans from America, tomatoes from Europe... yet you remainers all keep moaning how nothing works.... irony free zone.
You can’t make steel without Iron
Indeed, good point, iron from Australia. We are becoming more and more global and out looking, maybe that’s what parochial remainers don’t like, glad you agree, you’re getting there
Importing iron from Australia?? Haha, brilliant
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"Weird how people who provide 1st had evidence are wilfully ignored Go down to your local supermarket, they will provide you with real evidence. A couple of disgruntled ramblings can be wilfully ignored Did you read my post was on exports?. There are no serious checks or customs for imports until July due to government decree to stop the shelves being empty. It’s why the trucks are coming in loaded but going out empty. They are avoiding the hold ups on exports which we in the U.K. can’t. The cost to my business assures me it’s not down to “ramblings”. Our transport companies rates to us will be going up in March. We will be increasing our prices to our clients. I’m sure they will be delighted with that Brexit benefit. Can we expect empty shelves in July once the checks start? HMRC are desperately recruiting and in addition putting pressure on the delayed IT system. If they don’t get it right we will have big import problem s but I would suspect the government will look at the supplier and let them in on trust to do retrospective clearance on all loads. Ie catch up at the weekends paperwork. It would be a PR disaster of year highest level so my money is saying even if there are problems they won’t be massive but hauliers will incur delays and costs so stuff will get pricier . Cause and effect. To give you an idea of the quality of the ministers managing this. At a FTA /RHA meeting the minister said they are considering using the inland border sites as import customs checking facilities for all truck imports including those outside the EU. It was only when it was pointed out that drugs guns and illegal immigrants could be dropped off at the services first before going to these sites that they decided it wasn’t such a good idea after all.
Thank you for the reply. So if they avoid empty shelf's then it will be at the cost of increased prices. Will have to keep an eye on it. so far prices have gone down on my normal weekly shopping but will brace for an increase in July onwards
Costs have to be passed on at some point but not knowing what you buy I can’t comment. You may just buy Heinz beans for all know.
LOl no more than beans. Just your normal day to day stuff we all buy. So far prices down but from what you say we will all be facing higher prices in the summer. I am guessing the problems you mention will be for all imports therefore will affect even normal weekly shop.
No
For example the beans in a can are from North America and processed in the U.K. .
The cans are made in the U.K.
steel is made in the U.K. so the only thing possibly effected with the can will be the tomatoes from southern Europe. So it will be at most pennies on a can.
Like I said it depends on your lifestyle choices a lot.
Steel from the UK... beans from America, tomatoes from Europe... yet you remainers all keep moaning how nothing works.... irony free zone.
You can’t make steel without Iron
Indeed, good point, iron from Australia. We are becoming more and more global and out looking, maybe that’s what parochial remainers don’t like, glad you agree, you’re getting there
Importing iron from Australia?? Haha, brilliant
Are you moaning that we don’t have any to dig up in the Uk? Bizarre comment.
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"Weird how people who provide 1st had evidence are wilfully ignored Go down to your local supermarket, they will provide you with real evidence. A couple of disgruntled ramblings can be wilfully ignored Did you read my post was on exports?. There are no serious checks or customs for imports until July due to government decree to stop the shelves being empty. It’s why the trucks are coming in loaded but going out empty. They are avoiding the hold ups on exports which we in the U.K. can’t. The cost to my business assures me it’s not down to “ramblings”. Our transport companies rates to us will be going up in March. We will be increasing our prices to our clients. I’m sure they will be delighted with that Brexit benefit. Can we expect empty shelves in July once the checks start? HMRC are desperately recruiting and in addition putting pressure on the delayed IT system. If they don’t get it right we will have big import problem s but I would suspect the government will look at the supplier and let them in on trust to do retrospective clearance on all loads. Ie catch up at the weekends paperwork. It would be a PR disaster of year highest level so my money is saying even if there are problems they won’t be massive but hauliers will incur delays and costs so stuff will get pricier . Cause and effect. To give you an idea of the quality of the ministers managing this. At a FTA /RHA meeting the minister said they are considering using the inland border sites as import customs checking facilities for all truck imports including those outside the EU. It was only when it was pointed out that drugs guns and illegal immigrants could be dropped off at the services first before going to these sites that they decided it wasn’t such a good idea after all.
Thank you for the reply. So if they avoid empty shelf's then it will be at the cost of increased prices. Will have to keep an eye on it. so far prices have gone down on my normal weekly shopping but will brace for an increase in July onwards
Costs have to be passed on at some point but not knowing what you buy I can’t comment. You may just buy Heinz beans for all know.
LOl no more than beans. Just your normal day to day stuff we all buy. So far prices down but from what you say we will all be facing higher prices in the summer. I am guessing the problems you mention will be for all imports therefore will affect even normal weekly shop.
No
For example the beans in a can are from North America and processed in the U.K. .
The cans are made in the U.K.
steel is made in the U.K. so the only thing possibly effected with the can will be the tomatoes from southern Europe. So it will be at most pennies on a can.
Like I said it depends on your lifestyle choices a lot.
Steel from the UK... beans from America, tomatoes from Europe... yet you remainers all keep moaning how nothing works.... irony free zone.
You can’t make steel without Iron
Indeed, good point, iron from Australia. We are becoming more and more global and out looking, maybe that’s what parochial remainers don’t like, glad you agree, you’re getting there
Importing iron from Australia?? Haha, brilliant
Are you moaning that we don’t have any to dig up in the Uk? Bizarre comment.
Not moaning Chris just laughing
You’re very easily amused"Why can’t we mine down into the earths core? Get out iron from there, it will be British iron then? You have to think on your feet and learn to adapt in this new post Brexit world. | |||
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"Weird how people who provide 1st had evidence are wilfully ignored Go down to your local supermarket, they will provide you with real evidence. A couple of disgruntled ramblings can be wilfully ignored Did you read my post was on exports?. There are no serious checks or customs for imports until July due to government decree to stop the shelves being empty. It’s why the trucks are coming in loaded but going out empty. They are avoiding the hold ups on exports which we in the U.K. can’t. The cost to my business assures me it’s not down to “ramblings”. Our transport companies rates to us will be going up in March. We will be increasing our prices to our clients. I’m sure they will be delighted with that Brexit benefit. Can we expect empty shelves in July once the checks start? HMRC are desperately recruiting and in addition putting pressure on the delayed IT system. If they don’t get it right we will have big import problem s but I would suspect the government will look at the supplier and let them in on trust to do retrospective clearance on all loads. Ie catch up at the weekends paperwork. It would be a PR disaster of year highest level so my money is saying even if there are problems they won’t be massive but hauliers will incur delays and costs so stuff will get pricier . Cause and effect. To give you an idea of the quality of the ministers managing this. At a FTA /RHA meeting the minister said they are considering using the inland border sites as import customs checking facilities for all truck imports including those outside the EU. It was only when it was pointed out that drugs guns and illegal immigrants could be dropped off at the services first before going to these sites that they decided it wasn’t such a good idea after all.
Thank you for the reply. So if they avoid empty shelf's then it will be at the cost of increased prices. Will have to keep an eye on it. so far prices have gone down on my normal weekly shopping but will brace for an increase in July onwards
Costs have to be passed on at some point but not knowing what you buy I can’t comment. You may just buy Heinz beans for all know.
LOl no more than beans. Just your normal day to day stuff we all buy. So far prices down but from what you say we will all be facing higher prices in the summer. I am guessing the problems you mention will be for all imports therefore will affect even normal weekly shop.
No
For example the beans in a can are from North America and processed in the U.K. .
The cans are made in the U.K.
steel is made in the U.K. so the only thing possibly effected with the can will be the tomatoes from southern Europe. So it will be at most pennies on a can.
Like I said it depends on your lifestyle choices a lot.
Steel from the UK... beans from America, tomatoes from Europe... yet you remainers all keep moaning how nothing works.... irony free zone. "Seeing as 90% of the product had nothing to do with the EU your point is irrelevant. Seeing as tomatoes are not subject to customs as yet again not relevant . But keep trying to claim a Brexit benefit . It actually shows we were more than capable of global trade before Brexit so crying a Brexit benefit will be world trade is nonsense. .. as you’ve just agreed we always have. | |||
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"It's quite simple. Jobs which would have been created here are now going to be in europe. As the gmnt have advised companies to do this,its safe to assume this is happening up and down the country. So no,no jobs have gone but why anyone would argue the toss that somehow missing out on countless new jobs is somehow not a negative,is beyond me. Still I suppose if you have gambled the countries future on a gang of clueless racist simpletons, logic Goes out the window. I'm gonna open a new premises in Bournemouth. Actually no, I'm gonna open it in Manchester. Did Bournemouth just miss out on those jobs? No they didn't because they weren't actually there
In this scenario did the people of Bournemouth vote to make their city a less attractive option to you?
It makes no odds. These jobs weren't even thought of in 2016. JD Sports have doubled their employees in said warehouse since 2016. It actually makes sense for them to have a continental hub regardless of Brexit."Exactly, as from 1st July VAT will be payable if you buy or sell to and from the EU or UK anyway. So it would make sense for a company to have a centre in either place as they can decide the cheapest place to import products, some products cheaper to import to EU, some others cheaper to import into UK. It might also be cheaper for some items to be shipped to the EU from the UK, than from another country in the EU. They have some strange shipping rates in the EU. We have an outlet in Germany and prior to Brexit some EU countries bought from us as it was cheaper, some still do now depending on parcel size and value of contents, as it is still cheaper to pay their VAT rate and handling charges. Though I suppose Denmark will carry on collecting its own VAT on parcels arriving from other EU states. | |||
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"Weird how people who provide 1st had evidence are wilfully ignored Go down to your local supermarket, they will provide you with real evidence. A couple of disgruntled ramblings can be wilfully ignored Did you read my post was on exports?. There are no serious checks or customs for imports until July due to government decree to stop the shelves being empty. It’s why the trucks are coming in loaded but going out empty. They are avoiding the hold ups on exports which we in the U.K. can’t. The cost to my business assures me it’s not down to “ramblings”. Our transport companies rates to us will be going up in March. We will be increasing our prices to our clients. I’m sure they will be delighted with that Brexit benefit. Can we expect empty shelves in July once the checks start? HMRC are desperately recruiting and in addition putting pressure on the delayed IT system. If they don’t get it right we will have big import problem s but I would suspect the government will look at the supplier and let them in on trust to do retrospective clearance on all loads. Ie catch up at the weekends paperwork. It would be a PR disaster of year highest level so my money is saying even if there are problems they won’t be massive but hauliers will incur delays and costs so stuff will get pricier . Cause and effect. To give you an idea of the quality of the ministers managing this. At a FTA /RHA meeting the minister said they are considering using the inland border sites as import customs checking facilities for all truck imports including those outside the EU. It was only when it was pointed out that drugs guns and illegal immigrants could be dropped off at the services first before going to these sites that they decided it wasn’t such a good idea after all.
Thank you for the reply. So if they avoid empty shelf's then it will be at the cost of increased prices. Will have to keep an eye on it. so far prices have gone down on my normal weekly shopping but will brace for an increase in July onwards
Costs have to be passed on at some point but not knowing what you buy I can’t comment. You may just buy Heinz beans for all know.
LOl no more than beans. Just your normal day to day stuff we all buy. So far prices down but from what you say we will all be facing higher prices in the summer. I am guessing the problems you mention will be for all imports therefore will affect even normal weekly shop.
No
For example the beans in a can are from North America and processed in the U.K. .
The cans are made in the U.K.
steel is made in the U.K. so the only thing possibly effected with the can will be the tomatoes from southern Europe. So it will be at most pennies on a can.
Like I said it depends on your lifestyle choices a lot.
Steel from the UK... beans from America, tomatoes from Europe... yet you remainers all keep moaning how nothing works.... irony free zone.
Seeing as 90% of the product had nothing to do with the EU your point is irrelevant.
Seeing as tomatoes are not subject to customs as yet again not relevant .
But keep trying to claim a Brexit benefit .
It actually shows we were more than capable of global trade before Brexit so crying a Brexit benefit will be world trade is nonsense. .. as you’ve just agreed we always have. "BREXIT WE KNOW WHAT WE VOTED FOR ! Fools they are, Fools | |||
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"“Shipments of goods across the English Channel are recovering, with fewer haulage companies pulling out of jobs in the past week. The rejection rate for cargo shipped from France to the U.K. fell to the lowest since the last week of November, an indication of reduced friction at the border, according to the the logistics company Transporeon. The Transporeon data show a more upbeat picture. Demand to transport cargo from France to the U.K. increased last week to 17% more than the average in the third quarter.”" Think you’re being selective with Transporeon. It also stated 20% increases in rates and a 30% reduction in cargo leaving the U.K. based on a year ago. | |||
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"“Shipments of goods across the English Channel are recovering, with fewer haulage companies pulling out of jobs in the past week. The rejection rate for cargo shipped from France to the U.K. fell to the lowest since the last week of November, an indication of reduced friction at the border, according to the the logistics company Transporeon. The Transporeon data show a more upbeat picture. Demand to transport cargo from France to the U.K. increased last week to 17% more than the average in the third quarter.” Think you’re being selective with Transporeon. It also stated 20% increases in rates and a 30% reduction in cargo leaving the U.K. based on a year ago. "Just quoting from a Bloomberg news piece . Which transporeon insight are you quoting? | |||
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"“Shipments of goods across the English Channel are recovering, with fewer haulage companies pulling out of jobs in the past week. The rejection rate for cargo shipped from France to the U.K. fell to the lowest since the last week of November, an indication of reduced friction at the border, according to the the logistics company Transporeon. The Transporeon data show a more upbeat picture. Demand to transport cargo from France to the U.K. increased last week to 17% more than the average in the third quarter.” Think you’re being selective with Transporeon. It also stated 20% increases in rates and a 30% reduction in cargo leaving the U.K. based on a year ago.
Just quoting from a Bloomberg news piece .
Which transporeon insight are you quoting?"The one sent to me this week as I’m a customer | |||
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"“Shipments of goods across the English Channel are recovering, with fewer haulage companies pulling out of jobs in the past week. The rejection rate for cargo shipped from France to the U.K. fell to the lowest since the last week of November, an indication of reduced friction at the border, according to the the logistics company Transporeon. The Transporeon data show a more upbeat picture. Demand to transport cargo from France to the U.K. increased last week to 17% more than the average in the third quarter.” Think you’re being selective with Transporeon. It also stated 20% increases in rates and a 30% reduction in cargo leaving the U.K. based on a year ago.
Just quoting from a Bloomberg news piece .
Which transporeon insight are you quoting?
The one sent to me this week as I’m a customer "Think I will wait until the effects of covid flatten out and there can then be a meaningful analysis of any direct changes due to Brexit. Regardless of the impact of covid on freight rates, it's hard not to ignore the way the graphs are returning to "normal" as each week passes - week6 provides further evidence of improvement on week5. It's all about balance really... | |||
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"“Shipments of goods across the English Channel are recovering, with fewer haulage companies pulling out of jobs in the past week. The rejection rate for cargo shipped from France to the U.K. fell to the lowest since the last week of November, an indication of reduced friction at the border, according to the the logistics company Transporeon. The Transporeon data show a more upbeat picture. Demand to transport cargo from France to the U.K. increased last week to 17% more than the average in the third quarter.” Think you’re being selective with Transporeon. It also stated 20% increases in rates and a 30% reduction in cargo leaving the U.K. based on a year ago.
Just quoting from a Bloomberg news piece .
Which transporeon insight are you quoting?
The one sent to me this week as I’m a customer
Think I will wait until the effects of covid flatten out and there can then be a meaningful analysis of any direct changes due to Brexit.
Regardless of the impact of covid on freight rates, it's hard not to ignore the way the graphs are returning to "normal" as each week passes - week6 provides further evidence of improvement on week5.
It's all about balance really..."That is too sensible for posting on here,some wont like it.  | |||
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"“Shipments of goods across the English Channel are recovering, with fewer haulage companies pulling out of jobs in the past week. The rejection rate for cargo shipped from France to the U.K. fell to the lowest since the last week of November, an indication of reduced friction at the border, according to the the logistics company Transporeon. The Transporeon data show a more upbeat picture. Demand to transport cargo from France to the U.K. increased last week to 17% more than the average in the third quarter.” Think you’re being selective with Transporeon. It also stated 20% increases in rates and a 30% reduction in cargo leaving the U.K. based on a year ago.
Just quoting from a Bloomberg news piece .
Which transporeon insight are you quoting?
The one sent to me this week as I’m a customer
Think I will wait until the effects of covid flatten out and there can then be a meaningful analysis of any direct changes due to Brexit.
Regardless of the impact of covid on freight rates, it's hard not to ignore the way the graphs are returning to "normal" as each week passes - week6 provides further evidence of improvement on week5.
It's all about balance really..."But you just claimed a 17% benefit ? So that’s not waiting ! | |||
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"“Shipments of goods across the English Channel are recovering, with fewer haulage companies pulling out of jobs in the past week. The rejection rate for cargo shipped from France to the U.K. fell to the lowest since the last week of November, an indication of reduced friction at the border, according to the the logistics company Transporeon. The Transporeon data show a more upbeat picture. Demand to transport cargo from France to the U.K. increased last week to 17% more than the average in the third quarter.” Think you’re being selective with Transporeon. It also stated 20% increases in rates and a 30% reduction in cargo leaving the U.K. based on a year ago.
Just quoting from a Bloomberg news piece .
Which transporeon insight are you quoting?
The one sent to me this week as I’m a customer
Think I will wait until the effects of covid flatten out and there can then be a meaningful analysis of any direct changes due to Brexit.
Regardless of the impact of covid on freight rates, it's hard not to ignore the way the graphs are returning to "normal" as each week passes - week6 provides further evidence of improvement on week5.
It's all about balance really...
But you just claimed a 17% benefit ? So that’s not waiting ! "I didn’t claim anything. I presented an item of reported news that provided information in contrast to other news and accounts of the situation. Balance is a good thing ... | |||
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"“Shipments of goods across the English Channel are recovering, with fewer haulage companies pulling out of jobs in the past week. The rejection rate for cargo shipped from France to the U.K. fell to the lowest since the last week of November, an indication of reduced friction at the border, according to the the logistics company Transporeon. The Transporeon data show a more upbeat picture. Demand to transport cargo from France to the U.K. increased last week to 17% more than the average in the third quarter.” Think you’re being selective with Transporeon. It also stated 20% increases in rates and a 30% reduction in cargo leaving the U.K. based on a year ago.
Just quoting from a Bloomberg news piece .
Which transporeon insight are you quoting?
The one sent to me this week as I’m a customer
Think I will wait until the effects of covid flatten out and there can then be a meaningful analysis of any direct changes due to Brexit.
Regardless of the impact of covid on freight rates, it's hard not to ignore the way the graphs are returning to "normal" as each week passes - week6 provides further evidence of improvement on week5.
It's all about balance really...
But you just claimed a 17% benefit ? So that’s not waiting !
I didn’t claim anything.
I presented an item of reported news that provided information in contrast to other news and accounts of the situation.
Balance is a good thing ..."You used public figures to make a point about a claimed 17% improvement to be say you didn’t create the figures is irrelevant . You made the post to make a point which I challenged . I didn’t challenge your relaying of published figures. I stated you should include other figures from the same report. Covid isn’t responsible for foreign hauliers turning down export work that’s purely Brexit. Transporeons spot hire systems are struggling with un-contracted work due to the shortage . | |||
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"“Shipments of goods across the English Channel are recovering, with fewer haulage companies pulling out of jobs in the past week. The rejection rate for cargo shipped from France to the U.K. fell to the lowest since the last week of November, an indication of reduced friction at the border, according to the the logistics company Transporeon. The Transporeon data show a more upbeat picture. Demand to transport cargo from France to the U.K. increased last week to 17% more than the average in the third quarter.” Think you’re being selective with Transporeon. It also stated 20% increases in rates and a 30% reduction in cargo leaving the U.K. based on a year ago.
Just quoting from a Bloomberg news piece .
Which transporeon insight are you quoting?
The one sent to me this week as I’m a customer
Think I will wait until the effects of covid flatten out and there can then be a meaningful analysis of any direct changes due to Brexit.
Regardless of the impact of covid on freight rates, it's hard not to ignore the way the graphs are returning to "normal" as each week passes - week6 provides further evidence of improvement on week5.
It's all about balance really...
But you just claimed a 17% benefit ? So that’s not waiting !
I didn’t claim anything.
I presented an item of reported news that provided information in contrast to other news and accounts of the situation.
Balance is a good thing ...
You used public figures to make a point about a claimed 17% improvement to be say you didn’t create the figures is irrelevant . You made the post to make a point which I challenged .
I didn’t challenge your relaying of published figures. I stated you should include other figures from the same report.
Covid isn’t responsible for foreign hauliers turning down export work that’s purely Brexit.
Transporeons spot hire systems are struggling with un-contracted work due to the shortage .
"I quoted the Bloomberg story. Did you read it ? Does it mention the extra information provided by yourself ? Your input is welcome to provide further balance to the overall scenario. As I have mentioned, as the weeks go by and covid impact adjusts I’m sure more analysis will become available ... | |||
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"“Shipments of goods across the English Channel are recovering, with fewer haulage companies pulling out of jobs in the past week. The rejection rate for cargo shipped from France to the U.K. fell to the lowest since the last week of November, an indication of reduced friction at the border, according to the the logistics company Transporeon. The Transporeon data show a more upbeat picture. Demand to transport cargo from France to the U.K. increased last week to 17% more than the average in the third quarter.” Think you’re being selective with Transporeon. It also stated 20% increases in rates and a 30% reduction in cargo leaving the U.K. based on a year ago.
Just quoting from a Bloomberg news piece .
Which transporeon insight are you quoting?
The one sent to me this week as I’m a customer
Think I will wait until the effects of covid flatten out and there can then be a meaningful analysis of any direct changes due to Brexit.
Regardless of the impact of covid on freight rates, it's hard not to ignore the way the graphs are returning to "normal" as each week passes - week6 provides further evidence of improvement on week5.
It's all about balance really...
But you just claimed a 17% benefit ? So that’s not waiting !
I didn’t claim anything.
I presented an item of reported news that provided information in contrast to other news and accounts of the situation.
Balance is a good thing ...
You used public figures to make a point about a claimed 17% improvement to be say you didn’t create the figures is irrelevant . You made the post to make a point which I challenged .
I didn’t challenge your relaying of published figures. I stated you should include other figures from the same report.
Covid isn’t responsible for foreign hauliers turning down export work that’s purely Brexit.
Transporeons spot hire systems are struggling with un-contracted work due to the shortage .
I quoted the Bloomberg story. Did you read it ? Does it mention the extra information provided by yourself ?
Your input is welcome to provide further balance to the overall scenario.
As I have mentioned, as the weeks go by and covid impact adjusts I’m sure more analysis will become available ...
"Strangely you didn’t mention Bloomberg in your post only Transporeon. This is what I replied to so why would I have read Bloomberg until your later explanation of the lack of all the balanced numbers being due to it being Bloomberg ? I agree a balanced view is needed and the results of Covid will be felt for years i’m sure . But I reiterate hauliers declining loads is impacting today and that’s not something you need to wait for. It’s thousands of lost load exports per month so damaging to our economy. You may think I’m trying to win an argument to just be clever . I’m not! The sad thing is I’m losing thousands over this as are a lot of our clients. That’s not something to wait on that’s something which needs addressing now . The Chanel isn’t our biggest route by a long way but for some companies it is their only route and they are bleeding money due to the problems . No one is winning! | |||
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"“Shipments of goods across the English Channel are recovering, with fewer haulage companies pulling out of jobs in the past week. The rejection rate for cargo shipped from France to the U.K. fell to the lowest since the last week of November, an indication of reduced friction at the border, according to the the logistics company Transporeon. The Transporeon data show a more upbeat picture. Demand to transport cargo from France to the U.K. increased last week to 17% more than the average in the third quarter.” Think you’re being selective with Transporeon. It also stated 20% increases in rates and a 30% reduction in cargo leaving the U.K. based on a year ago.
Just quoting from a Bloomberg news piece .
Which transporeon insight are you quoting?
The one sent to me this week as I’m a customer
Think I will wait until the effects of covid flatten out and there can then be a meaningful analysis of any direct changes due to Brexit.
Regardless of the impact of covid on freight rates, it's hard not to ignore the way the graphs are returning to "normal" as each week passes - week6 provides further evidence of improvement on week5.
It's all about balance really...
But you just claimed a 17% benefit ? So that’s not waiting !
I didn’t claim anything.
I presented an item of reported news that provided information in contrast to other news and accounts of the situation.
Balance is a good thing ...
You used public figures to make a point about a claimed 17% improvement to be say you didn’t create the figures is irrelevant . You made the post to make a point which I challenged .
I didn’t challenge your relaying of published figures. I stated you should include other figures from the same report.
Covid isn’t responsible for foreign hauliers turning down export work that’s purely Brexit.
Transporeons spot hire systems are struggling with un-contracted work due to the shortage .
I quoted the Bloomberg story. Did you read it ? Does it mention the extra information provided by yourself ?
Your input is welcome to provide further balance to the overall scenario.
As I have mentioned, as the weeks go by and covid impact adjusts I’m sure more analysis will become available ...
Strangely you didn’t mention Bloomberg in your post only Transporeon. This is what I replied to so why would I have read Bloomberg until your later explanation of the lack of all the balanced numbers being due to it being Bloomberg ?
I agree a balanced view is needed and the results of Covid will be felt for years i’m sure .
But I reiterate hauliers declining loads is impacting today and that’s not something you need to wait for. It’s thousands of lost load exports per month so damaging to our economy.
You may think I’m trying to win an argument to just be clever . I’m not! The sad thing is I’m losing thousands over this as are a lot of our clients. That’s not something to wait on that’s something which needs addressing now .
The Chanel isn’t our biggest route by a long way but for some companies it is their only route and they are bleeding money due to the problems .
No one is winning!
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"“Shipments of goods across the English Channel are recovering, with fewer haulage companies pulling out of jobs in the past week. The rejection rate for cargo shipped from France to the U.K. fell to the lowest since the last week of November, an indication of reduced friction at the border, according to the the logistics company Transporeon. The Transporeon data show a more upbeat picture. Demand to transport cargo from France to the U.K. increased last week to 17% more than the average in the third quarter.” Think you’re being selective with Transporeon. It also stated 20% increases in rates and a 30% reduction in cargo leaving the U.K. based on a year ago.
Just quoting from a Bloomberg news piece .
Which transporeon insight are you quoting?
The one sent to me this week as I’m a customer
Think I will wait until the effects of covid flatten out and there can then be a meaningful analysis of any direct changes due to Brexit.
Regardless of the impact of covid on freight rates, it's hard not to ignore the way the graphs are returning to "normal" as each week passes - week6 provides further evidence of improvement on week5.
It's all about balance really...
But you just claimed a 17% benefit ? So that’s not waiting !
I didn’t claim anything.
I presented an item of reported news that provided information in contrast to other news and accounts of the situation.
Balance is a good thing ...
You used public figures to make a point about a claimed 17% improvement to be say you didn’t create the figures is irrelevant . You made the post to make a point which I challenged .
I didn’t challenge your relaying of published figures. I stated you should include other figures from the same report.
Covid isn’t responsible for foreign hauliers turning down export work that’s purely Brexit.
Transporeons spot hire systems are struggling with un-contracted work due to the shortage .
I quoted the Bloomberg story. Did you read it ? Does it mention the extra information provided by yourself ?
Your input is welcome to provide further balance to the overall scenario.
As I have mentioned, as the weeks go by and covid impact adjusts I’m sure more analysis will become available ...
Strangely you didn’t mention Bloomberg in your post only Transporeon. This is what I replied to so why would I have read Bloomberg until your later explanation of the lack of all the balanced numbers being due to it being Bloomberg ?
I agree a balanced view is needed and the results of Covid will be felt for years i’m sure .
But I reiterate hauliers declining loads is impacting today and that’s not something you need to wait for. It’s thousands of lost load exports per month so damaging to our economy.
You may think I’m trying to win an argument to just be clever . I’m not! The sad thing is I’m losing thousands over this as are a lot of our clients. That’s not something to wait on that’s something which needs addressing now .
The Chanel isn’t our biggest route by a long way but for some companies it is their only route and they are bleeding money due to the problems .
No one is winning!
The whole post was in quotes, and I confirmed it was a Bloomberg story when I replied to your first response to the quoted material...
"In your first post you clearly only quoted Transporeon. You had to admit Bloomberg as you knew your knowledge was limited by being selected statistics. To make it easier to compare in the balance front . Here’s a quote from Bloomberg on yahoo using two Transporeon graphs. They obviously like to share. https://news.yahoo.com/15-hour-brexit-wait-prompts-144407184.html The news item backs up my claim of Brexit being the reason for trucks avoiding the U.K. so I’ll reiterate we don’t need to wait for Covid stats to realise Brexit is losing the country a lot of money. Have a good night . | |||
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"“Shipments of goods across the English Channel are recovering, with fewer haulage companies pulling out of jobs in the past week. The rejection rate for cargo shipped from France to the U.K. fell to the lowest since the last week of November, an indication of reduced friction at the border, according to the the logistics company Transporeon. The Transporeon data show a more upbeat picture. Demand to transport cargo from France to the U.K. increased last week to 17% more than the average in the third quarter.” Think you’re being selective with Transporeon. It also stated 20% increases in rates and a 30% reduction in cargo leaving the U.K. based on a year ago.
Just quoting from a Bloomberg news piece .
Which transporeon insight are you quoting?
The one sent to me this week as I’m a customer
Think I will wait until the effects of covid flatten out and there can then be a meaningful analysis of any direct changes due to Brexit.
Regardless of the impact of covid on freight rates, it's hard not to ignore the way the graphs are returning to "normal" as each week passes - week6 provides further evidence of improvement on week5.
It's all about balance really...
But you just claimed a 17% benefit ? So that’s not waiting !
I didn’t claim anything.
I presented an item of reported news that provided information in contrast to other news and accounts of the situation.
Balance is a good thing ...
You used public figures to make a point about a claimed 17% improvement to be say you didn’t create the figures is irrelevant . You made the post to make a point which I challenged .
I didn’t challenge your relaying of published figures. I stated you should include other figures from the same report.
Covid isn’t responsible for foreign hauliers turning down export work that’s purely Brexit.
Transporeons spot hire systems are struggling with un-contracted work due to the shortage .
I quoted the Bloomberg story. Did you read it ? Does it mention the extra information provided by yourself ?
Your input is welcome to provide further balance to the overall scenario.
As I have mentioned, as the weeks go by and covid impact adjusts I’m sure more analysis will become available ...
Strangely you didn’t mention Bloomberg in your post only Transporeon. This is what I replied to so why would I have read Bloomberg until your later explanation of the lack of all the balanced numbers being due to it being Bloomberg ?
I agree a balanced view is needed and the results of Covid will be felt for years i’m sure .
But I reiterate hauliers declining loads is impacting today and that’s not something you need to wait for. It’s thousands of lost load exports per month so damaging to our economy.
You may think I’m trying to win an argument to just be clever . I’m not! The sad thing is I’m losing thousands over this as are a lot of our clients. That’s not something to wait on that’s something which needs addressing now .
The Chanel isn’t our biggest route by a long way but for some companies it is their only route and they are bleeding money due to the problems .
No one is winning!
The whole post was in quotes, and I confirmed it was a Bloomberg story when I replied to your first response to the quoted material...
In your first post you clearly only quoted Transporeon. You had to admit Bloomberg as you knew your knowledge was limited by being selected statistics.
To make it easier to compare in the balance front . Here’s a quote from Bloomberg on yahoo using two Transporeon graphs. They obviously like to share.
https://news.yahoo.com/15-hour-brexit-wait-prompts-144407184.html
The news item backs up my claim of Brexit being the reason for trucks avoiding the U.K.
so I’ll reiterate we don’t need to wait for Covid stats to realise Brexit is losing the country a lot of money.
Have a good night .
"“ starts the post and “ ends the post. The whole post is quoted from Bloomberg. Here it is again, exactly the same as first time posted - “Shipments of goods across the English Channel are recovering, with fewer haulage companies pulling out of jobs in the past week. The rejection rate for cargo shipped from France to the U.K. fell to the lowest since the last week of November, an indication of reduced friction at the border, according to the the logistics company Transporeon. The Transporeon data show a more upbeat picture. Demand to transport cargo from France to the U.K. increased last week to 17% more than the average in the third quarter.” Just in case you haven’t read it from the source, here’s the link https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-16/brexit-trade-recovers-with-fewer-cross-channel-cargoes-rejected Your input is welcome, however I would reiterate again that I do believe other sources, providing alternative perception of the situation, are equally valid and important in order to create a balanced view. | |||
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"“Shipments of goods across the English Channel are recovering, with fewer haulage companies pulling out of jobs in the past week. The rejection rate for cargo shipped from France to the U.K. fell to the lowest since the last week of November, an indication of reduced friction at the border, according to the the logistics company Transporeon. The Transporeon data show a more upbeat picture. Demand to transport cargo from France to the U.K. increased last week to 17% more than the average in the third quarter.” Think you’re being selective with Transporeon. It also stated 20% increases in rates and a 30% reduction in cargo leaving the U.K. based on a year ago.
Just quoting from a Bloomberg news piece .
Which transporeon insight are you quoting?
The one sent to me this week as I’m a customer
Think I will wait until the effects of covid flatten out and there can then be a meaningful analysis of any direct changes due to Brexit.
Regardless of the impact of covid on freight rates, it's hard not to ignore the way the graphs are returning to "normal" as each week passes - week6 provides further evidence of improvement on week5.
It's all about balance really...
But you just claimed a 17% benefit ? So that’s not waiting !
I didn’t claim anything.
I presented an item of reported news that provided information in contrast to other news and accounts of the situation.
Balance is a good thing ...
You used public figures to make a point about a claimed 17% improvement to be say you didn’t create the figures is irrelevant . You made the post to make a point which I challenged .
I didn’t challenge your relaying of published figures. I stated you should include other figures from the same report.
Covid isn’t responsible for foreign hauliers turning down export work that’s purely Brexit.
Transporeons spot hire systems are struggling with un-contracted work due to the shortage .
I quoted the Bloomberg story. Did you read it ? Does it mention the extra information provided by yourself ?
Your input is welcome to provide further balance to the overall scenario.
As I have mentioned, as the weeks go by and covid impact adjusts I’m sure more analysis will become available ...
Strangely you didn’t mention Bloomberg in your post only Transporeon. This is what I replied to so why would I have read Bloomberg until your later explanation of the lack of all the balanced numbers being due to it being Bloomberg ?
I agree a balanced view is needed and the results of Covid will be felt for years i’m sure .
But I reiterate hauliers declining loads is impacting today and that’s not something you need to wait for. It’s thousands of lost load exports per month so damaging to our economy.
You may think I’m trying to win an argument to just be clever . I’m not! The sad thing is I’m losing thousands over this as are a lot of our clients. That’s not something to wait on that’s something which needs addressing now .
The Chanel isn’t our biggest route by a long way but for some companies it is their only route and they are bleeding money due to the problems .
No one is winning!
The whole post was in quotes, and I confirmed it was a Bloomberg story when I replied to your first response to the quoted material...
In your first post you clearly only quoted Transporeon. You had to admit Bloomberg as you knew your knowledge was limited by being selected statistics.
To make it easier to compare in the balance front . Here’s a quote from Bloomberg on yahoo using two Transporeon graphs. They obviously like to share.
https://news.yahoo.com/15-hour-brexit-wait-prompts-144407184.html
The news item backs up my claim of Brexit being the reason for trucks avoiding the U.K.
so I’ll reiterate we don’t need to wait for Covid stats to realise Brexit is losing the country a lot of money.
Have a good night .
“ starts the post and “ ends the post.
The whole post is quoted from Bloomberg.
Here it is again, exactly the same as first time posted - “Shipments of goods across the English Channel are recovering, with fewer haulage companies pulling out of jobs in the past week.
The rejection rate for cargo shipped from France to the U.K. fell to the lowest since the last week of November, an indication of reduced friction at the border, according to the the logistics company Transporeon.
The Transporeon data show a more upbeat picture. Demand to transport cargo from France to the U.K. increased last week to 17% more than the average in the third quarter.”
Just in case you haven’t read it from the source, here’s the link https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-16/brexit-trade-recovers-with-fewer-cross-channel-cargoes-rejected
Your input is welcome, however I would reiterate again that I do believe other sources, providing alternative perception of the situation, are equally valid and important in order to create a balanced view.
"Grammar lessons too
I think you’re missing my point but it’s a confusing picture so not complaining.
In your first post you only used the reference to Transporeon so I challenged the quote . To then hear you’re response it was Bloomberg is not what I’m questioning. I accept that.
I am saying you should have referenced Bloomberg in the original post as the post was otherwise miss leading, as Transporeon quote other references which counter the point you were making in your post.
In reality the article in Bloomberg was miss leading in the first place as it omitted the other negative percentages over Brexit from the same report. But you wouldn’t have known this so it’s unfair to say it was deliberate.
I agree a balance viewpoint is always better as nothing is ever quite as it seems .
The Brexit shambles will get better as business adapts . The cost will stay and probably increase a bit more as industry adjusts but processes and IT will eventually catch up.
I’m not seeing any positives but I’m open to genuinely hearing any.
For a balance example
It we started full customs and health checks tomorrow on imports the country would grind to a halt and the government know this so there a few months for them to address the bottle necks the lack of staff etc. So hopefully the worse case won’t happen. I suspect if it even hints at being a problem the U.K. will lift or delay the process again to stop the impact .
So today Armageddon in four months it may be doable. Timing is everything
Brexit isn’t done it’s a work in progress but they need to hurry up as the losses are mounting.
We need to reset costs .
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"“Shipments of goods across the English Channel are recovering, with fewer haulage companies pulling out of jobs in the past week. The rejection rate for cargo shipped from France to the U.K. fell to the lowest since the last week of November, an indication of reduced friction at the border, according to the the logistics company Transporeon. The Transporeon data show a more upbeat picture. Demand to transport cargo from France to the U.K. increased last week to 17% more than the average in the third quarter.” Think you’re being selective with Transporeon. It also stated 20% increases in rates and a 30% reduction in cargo leaving the U.K. based on a year ago.
Just quoting from a Bloomberg news piece .
Which transporeon insight are you quoting?
The one sent to me this week as I’m a customer
Think I will wait until the effects of covid flatten out and there can then be a meaningful analysis of any direct changes due to Brexit.
Regardless of the impact of covid on freight rates, it's hard not to ignore the way the graphs are returning to "normal" as each week passes - week6 provides further evidence of improvement on week5.
It's all about balance really...
But you just claimed a 17% benefit ? So that’s not waiting !
I didn’t claim anything.
I presented an item of reported news that provided information in contrast to other news and accounts of the situation.
Balance is a good thing ...
You used public figures to make a point about a claimed 17% improvement to be say you didn’t create the figures is irrelevant . You made the post to make a point which I challenged .
I didn’t challenge your relaying of published figures. I stated you should include other figures from the same report.
Covid isn’t responsible for foreign hauliers turning down export work that’s purely Brexit.
Transporeons spot hire systems are struggling with un-contracted work due to the shortage .
I quoted the Bloomberg story. Did you read it ? Does it mention the extra information provided by yourself ?
Your input is welcome to provide further balance to the overall scenario.
As I have mentioned, as the weeks go by and covid impact adjusts I’m sure more analysis will become available ...
Strangely you didn’t mention Bloomberg in your post only Transporeon. This is what I replied to so why would I have read Bloomberg until your later explanation of the lack of all the balanced numbers being due to it being Bloomberg ?
I agree a balanced view is needed and the results of Covid will be felt for years i’m sure .
But I reiterate hauliers declining loads is impacting today and that’s not something you need to wait for. It’s thousands of lost load exports per month so damaging to our economy.
You may think I’m trying to win an argument to just be clever . I’m not! The sad thing is I’m losing thousands over this as are a lot of our clients. That’s not something to wait on that’s something which needs addressing now .
The Chanel isn’t our biggest route by a long way but for some companies it is their only route and they are bleeding money due to the problems .
No one is winning!
The whole post was in quotes, and I confirmed it was a Bloomberg story when I replied to your first response to the quoted material...
In your first post you clearly only quoted Transporeon. You had to admit Bloomberg as you knew your knowledge was limited by being selected statistics.
To make it easier to compare in the balance front . Here’s a quote from Bloomberg on yahoo using two Transporeon graphs. They obviously like to share.
https://news.yahoo.com/15-hour-brexit-wait-prompts-144407184.html
The news item backs up my claim of Brexit being the reason for trucks avoiding the U.K.
so I’ll reiterate we don’t need to wait for Covid stats to realise Brexit is losing the country a lot of money.
Have a good night .
“ starts the post and “ ends the post.
The whole post is quoted from Bloomberg.
Here it is again, exactly the same as first time posted - “Shipments of goods across the English Channel are recovering, with fewer haulage companies pulling out of jobs in the past week.
The rejection rate for cargo shipped from France to the U.K. fell to the lowest since the last week of November, an indication of reduced friction at the border, according to the the logistics company Transporeon.
The Transporeon data show a more upbeat picture. Demand to transport cargo from France to the U.K. increased last week to 17% more than the average in the third quarter.”
Just in case you haven’t read it from the source, here’s the link https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-16/brexit-trade-recovers-with-fewer-cross-channel-cargoes-rejected
Your input is welcome, however I would reiterate again that I do believe other sources, providing alternative perception of the situation, are equally valid and important in order to create a balanced view.
Grammar lessons too
I think you’re missing my point but it’s a confusing picture so not complaining.
In your first post you only used the reference to Transporeon so I challenged the quote . To then hear you’re response it was Bloomberg is not what I’m questioning. I accept that.
I am saying you should have referenced Bloomberg in the original post as the post was otherwise miss leading, as Transporeon quote other references which counter the point you were making in your post.
In reality the article in Bloomberg was miss leading in the first place as it omitted the other negative percentages over Brexit from the same report. But you wouldn’t have known this so it’s unfair to say it was deliberate.
I agree a balance viewpoint is always better as nothing is ever quite as it seems .
The Brexit shambles will get better as business adapts . The cost will stay and probably increase a bit more as industry adjusts but processes and IT will eventually catch up.
I’m not seeing any positives but I’m open to genuinely hearing any.
For a balance example
It we started full customs and health checks tomorrow on imports the country would grind to a halt and the government know this so there a few months for them to address the bottle necks the lack of staff etc. So hopefully the worse case won’t happen. I suspect if it even hints at being a problem the U.K. will lift or delay the process again to stop the impact .
So today Armageddon in four months it may be doable. Timing is everything
Brexit isn’t done it’s a work in progress but they need to hurry up as the losses are mounting.
We need to reset costs .
"A lesson in quotes and citations
The Bloomberg piece was interesting as it used Transporeon data to provide a balance to certain aspects of the RHA statement about the state of traffic movements
The Transporeon Chief Executive himself contributed with the statement, “Market players have slowly commenced adjusting to the new circumstances,”
Is the journalist wrong to suggest the Transporeon data and the quote from its Chief Executive provides a more upbeat picture?
As a customer of Transporeon are you you only taking on board some of the data they provide?
the fact you provided additional information was helpful, but doesn't make the Transporeon data in the Bloomberg piece wrong.
Let's see where we are in March, yes? more time to settle down, further opportunity for, "adjusting to the new circumstances" | |||
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