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"Was always on the cards with the GFA that nodded through all smuggling for the sake of an easy life. Brexit just means that cock up has finally got to be addressed properly. "  | |||
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"The Daily Telegraph calls for the return of a "hard border" between Northern Ireland & The Irish Republic. Is this the only solution? The Unionists want a land border and the Nationalists a sea border (which Westminster should also want in support of the Unionists). is there a way out of this?" Honor the agreement that you negotiated, voted on and that was passed into law by your parliament. Your welcome | |||
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"The Daily Telegraph calls for the return of a "hard border" between Northern Ireland & The Irish Republic. Is this the only solution? The Unionists want a land border and the Nationalists a sea border (which Westminster should also want in support of the Unionists). is there a way out of this?" The only solution is an “Exit out of Brexit” | |||
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"Was always on the cards with the GFA that nodded through all smuggling for the sake of an easy life. Brexit just means that cock up has finally got to be addressed properly. " Oh that's a new one. Blaming the Good Friday Agreement. That's going on the list. | |||
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"Was always on the cards with the GFA that nodded through all smuggling for the sake of an easy life. Brexit just means that cock up has finally got to be addressed properly. " The GFA a cock up????  | |||
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"Was always on the cards with the GFA that nodded through all smuggling for the sake of an easy life. Brexit just means that cock up has finally got to be addressed properly. The GFA a cock up???? "What would you call not enforcing the law? Billions of pounds of diesel, cigarettes and alcohol smuggled across the boarder since the GFA with zero enforcement. | |||
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"Was always on the cards with the GFA that nodded through all smuggling for the sake of an easy life. Brexit just means that cock up has finally got to be addressed properly. The GFA a cock up????
What would you call not enforcing the law? Billions of pounds of diesel, cigarettes and alcohol smuggled across the boarder since the GFA with zero enforcement. "Yes and being able to order a pizza without wondering if the delivery guy will be shot which happened when I was in Newry for a night. Unless you’ve lived under that constant threat and intimidation you haven’t got a clue. I’ve not lived there but during the troubles it was not nice place to be. So fuck the tax on the cigarettes and the diesel shouldn’t be so fucking expensive due to U.K. tax in the first place. Try catching the tax dodgers in the city of London before you start encouraging violence back to Northern Ireland. | |||
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"You're free to vote for whoever you think will sort out the taxation issue. Or you can keep sweeping it all under the carpet. " The fact that you try to highlight the smuggling problem as the major issue and blaming the GFA shows you've absolutely no clue about the situation and the problems in Northern Ireland. Anyone who calls for the reinstallment of a hard border on the island of Ireland is stiring violence and trying to throw us back 25 years into dark times. It's funny that when it comes to export import issues between the UK and EU mainland, it's being argued to give it more time as we're only a month in. When it's the Britain - NI flow of goods it's swiftly declared as a disaster and to abbandon the NI protocol, no time leverage is given to get the process adjusted even though we're only a month in... | |||
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"Was always on the cards with the GFA that nodded through all smuggling for the sake of an easy life. Brexit just means that cock up has finally got to be addressed properly. The GFA a cock up????
What would you call not enforcing the law? Billions of pounds of diesel, cigarettes and alcohol smuggled across the boarder since the GFA with zero enforcement. "Billions you say? Can you link to where that has been definitively laid out? As regards zero enforcement,that will also be news to the PSNI in NI and the likes of the Gardai and Criminal assets bureau in the Republic | |||
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"It's fine you can blast me for pointing out the root cause of the problem however much people don't want to acknowledge it. I'm open to all constructive suggestions as to how to solve it that doesn't involve appeasing terrorists. " What is very apparent is that you have no idea whatsoever what you're opining about. It's no even a little knowledge but a complete deficit. Are you familiar with the expression better be thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt? | |||
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"It's fine you can blast me for pointing out the root cause of the problem however much people don't want to acknowledge it. I'm open to all constructive suggestions as to how to solve it that doesn't involve appeasing terrorists. What is very apparent is that you have no idea whatsoever what you're opining about. It's no even a little knowledge but a complete deficit. Are you familiar with the expression better be thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt? " Yes it's an uncomfortable subject but you're not actually disagreeing with me, so noted. | |||
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"It's fine you can blast me for pointing out the root cause of the problem however much people don't want to acknowledge it. I'm open to all constructive suggestions as to how to solve it that doesn't involve appeasing terrorists. What is very apparent is that you have no idea whatsoever what you're opining about. It's no even a little knowledge but a complete deficit. Are you familiar with the expression better be thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt? Yes it's an uncomfortable subject but you're not actually disagreeing with me, so noted. " I have found it pointless to enter into a discussion with someone that knows less that nothing about what they're talking about. | |||
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"It's fine you can blast me for pointing out the root cause of the problem however much people don't want to acknowledge it. I'm open to all constructive suggestions as to how to solve it that doesn't involve appeasing terrorists. What is very apparent is that you have no idea whatsoever what you're opining about. It's no even a little knowledge but a complete deficit. Are you familiar with the expression better be thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt? Yes it's an uncomfortable subject but you're not actually disagreeing with me, so noted. I have found it pointless to enter into a discussion with someone that knows less that nothing about what they're talking about. " Well that's me told  | |||
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"What do the people of Ireland want ? And why ?" Mainly want the GFA to be honoured to avoid a return to the troubles. | |||
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"What do the people of Ireland want ? And why ? Mainly want the GFA to be honoured to avoid a return to the troubles." Not reunification? Or is that a minority? | |||
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"You're free to vote for whoever you think will sort out the taxation issue. Or you can keep sweeping it all under the carpet. " Feel free to state which carpet the list of PPE suppliers is hidden under?? | |||
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"It's fine you can blast me for pointing out the root cause of the problem however much people don't want to acknowledge it. I'm open to all constructive suggestions as to how to solve it that doesn't involve appeasing terrorists. " The GFA is in place since 1998 and there hasn’t been a squeak out of brexiteers regarding smuggling or anything else in its provisions Until There was issues with the protocol in the last 30 days And since then your ilk have wanted to tear down the GFA in some muddled hope that the protocol would be torn and god knows what inserted in its place | |||
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"It's fine you can blast me for pointing out the root cause of the problem however much people don't want to acknowledge it. I'm open to all constructive suggestions as to how to solve it that doesn't involve appeasing terrorists. The GFA is in place since 1998 and there hasn’t been a squeak out of brexiteers regarding smuggling or anything else in its provisions Until There was issues with the protocol in the last 30 days And since then your ilk have wanted to tear down the GFA in some muddled hope that the protocol would be torn and god knows what inserted in its place " Because there isn't a single thing that won't be sacrificed if it gets in the way of brexit. If the Conservative & Unionist party are willing to put the Union at risk, and sack every MP who believed in every policy except brexit then a little thing like the GFA and a return to violence isn't going to worry them. | |||
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"It's fine you can blast me for pointing out the root cause of the problem however much people don't want to acknowledge it. I'm open to all constructive suggestions as to how to solve it that doesn't involve appeasing terrorists. The GFA is in place since 1998 and there hasn’t been a squeak out of brexiteers regarding smuggling or anything else in its provisions Until There was issues with the protocol in the last 30 days And since then your ilk have wanted to tear down the GFA in some muddled hope that the protocol would be torn and god knows what inserted in its place Because there isn't a single thing that won't be sacrificed if it gets in the way of brexit. If the Conservative & Unionist party are willing to put the Union at risk, and sack every MP who believed in every policy except brexit then a little thing like the GFA and a return to violence isn't going to worry them. " Agreed Good luck though with breaking internationally recognized treaties and then trying to get trade deals anywhere else | |||
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"It's fine you can blast me for pointing out the root cause of the problem however much people don't want to acknowledge it. I'm open to all constructive suggestions as to how to solve it that doesn't involve appeasing terrorists. The GFA is in place since 1998 and there hasn’t been a squeak out of brexiteers regarding smuggling or anything else in its provisions Until There was issues with the protocol in the last 30 days And since then your ilk have wanted to tear down the GFA in some muddled hope that the protocol would be torn and god knows what inserted in its place " That's nonsense, there's always been plenty of criticism of the GFA by myself and others, including residents, since long before Brexit was even a possibility. Take this article for example: https://www.northernslant.com/the-good-friday-agreement-a-flawed-and-incomplete-process/ | |||
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"What do the people of Ireland want ? And why ?" For Westminster to keep it's word and recognise the current situation is of it's own doing. This is what the UK voted for just over a year ago and has only been in effect for a few weeks. Stupid games win stupid prizes. The UK electorate pretty much ignored the land border in 2016 other than a few idiots saying they expected Ireland to leave the EU as well. The GFA is far from perfect but it's not going to be discarded as a result of some delusional weaponised English nationalism. This is where the rubber meets the road and the magic sky thinking meets reality. | |||
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"What do the people of Ireland want ? And why ? Mainly want the GFA to be honoured to avoid a return to the troubles. Not reunification? Or is that a minority? " It's approx 50/50 in the north. Or it was before brexit. Maybe it's changed now. In the ROI I don't know how a vote would go. | |||
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"It's fine you can blast me for pointing out the root cause of the problem however much people don't want to acknowledge it. I'm open to all constructive suggestions as to how to solve it that doesn't involve appeasing terrorists. The GFA is in place since 1998 and there hasn’t been a squeak out of brexiteers regarding smuggling or anything else in its provisions Until There was issues with the protocol in the last 30 days And since then your ilk have wanted to tear down the GFA in some muddled hope that the protocol would be torn and god knows what inserted in its place That's nonsense, there's always been plenty of criticism of the GFA by myself and others, including residents, since long before Brexit was even a possibility. Take this article for example: https://www.northernslant.com/the-good-friday-agreement-a-flawed-and-incomplete-process/ " From the article you cited " Brexit disturbs the fragile balance of peace The Agreement has faced no greater challenges than those caused by Brexit. Because of Brexit and the DUP/Tory pact, relationships between London and Dublin are worse than at any time for decades. In May 2018, Irish Taoiseach Leo Varadkar said that “Dublin and London are now very much at odds on how to resurrect negotiations.” The Irish border has become the “front line” of the conflict between the British and EU member states and it is the Irish government who are holding that front line on behalf of the whole EU. There were, in April 2018, a number of calls in the light of Brexit to revive the British Irish intergovernmental conference, which had not met since 2007, and it did meet in July 2018. The peace process, said Baroness O’Neill in her keynote speech at the Peace and Beyond conference, requires renewed effort because of Brexit. Brexit has given the DUP the opportunity to roll back the Good Friday Agreement, which in 1998 it did not sign. The British and Irish governments are co-guarantors of the GFA and therefore jointly responsible for supporting and protecting its institutions, including the Assembly and Executive. The DUP, who see the Irish government as “foreign”, will resist any relationship-building between London and Dublin, and in particular are resisting any formal or informal initiatives by the Irish government to reignite talks to re-establish the Assembly and Executive. On 1 August 2018, Arlene Foster accused the Taoiseach of interfering in Northern Ireland affairs, when he said that British and Irish governments would try to reconvene talks in the autumn (The Irish News, 1 August 2018). Brexit has damaged the direction of travel, the dynamic of the ongoing GFA process, because it has distorted the place of the DUP within the fragile political eco-system of Northern Ireland. Brexit forces questions to be raised about the implications of the Irish citizenship now held by significant numbers of Northern Ireland’s citizens, and the right to hold Irish citizenship granted to them by the GFA. They are now citizens of Ireland and the EU, but will they still have access to its privileges and rights? What are the implications of some citizens of Northern Ireland having access to rights afforded by the EU when others do not" | |||
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"It's fine you can blast me for pointing out the root cause of the problem however much people don't want to acknowledge it. I'm open to all constructive suggestions as to how to solve it that doesn't involve appeasing terrorists. The GFA is in place since 1998 and there hasn’t been a squeak out of brexiteers regarding smuggling or anything else in its provisions Until There was issues with the protocol in the last 30 days And since then your ilk have wanted to tear down the GFA in some muddled hope that the protocol would be torn and god knows what inserted in its place That's nonsense, there's always been plenty of criticism of the GFA by myself and others, including residents, since long before Brexit was even a possibility. Take this article for example: https://www.northernslant.com/the-good-friday-agreement-a-flawed-and-incomplete-process/ " The GFA is far from perfect but it’s advantage far outweigh its disadvantages, | |||
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"I quoted the article in response to the absurd claim that there wasn't prior criticism of the GFA. Thrust of the article, which I agree with, is that Brexit has brought the long standing serious flaws into sharp focus. Which is a good thing. " The GFA has held the peace on this island for the past 23 years that’s the reality Maybe if you had bombs and mayhem going off outside your front door,you wouldn’t be as flippant about it and as willing to throw it under the bus for a protocol that is signed into law and isn’t going anywhere. Of course if you hadn’t divided the island against the wishes of 5/6th of the population in the first place You wouldn’t have had this issue at all | |||
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"Of course there were faults in the good Friday agreement and arguments against. The Irish Republicans wanted a untied Ireland the UVF wanted to totally destroy the Irish Republicans . But after decades of violence they came to the table and stopped the killing. Yes they are now probably gangsters and extortionists but people can now take down the fences stop checking the bottom of their cars and deliver fucking pizza not worrying about being shot! So it’s not perfect but it works and that’s what thatcher, Mo Mowlem the Irish Taoiseach etc set out to achieve. Brexit is brought about by xenophobic media lead ignorance and if it risks starting the troubles then that will just sum up the whole stupid shallow farce that is Brexit . No thought at all for the reality of what he’s lead us to. Boris will be responsible for setting back the economy years, losing the union and starting a conflict in Ireland again . He will certainly get his wish to be in the history books! " So you've said many, many times, and so have I and other brexiters told you many, many times the reasons for our vote which are nothing to do with your own prejudices. Peter Ustinov once said to me: the most important thing in life is to defeat your own prejudices. | |||
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"I quoted the article in response to the absurd claim that there wasn't prior criticism of the GFA. Thrust of the article, which I agree with, is that Brexit has brought the long standing serious flaws into sharp focus. Which is a good thing. " Here's some hard reality for you. The GFA will not be modified, amended or repealed at the indulgence of one of the protagonists to the conflict. Please by all means encourage your politicians to do so. It will bring such a world of pain to the UK. It will be a frying pan and fire situation. It will bring the expression 'pariah state' into very sharp focus which may not be a good thing. | |||
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"Of course there were faults in the good Friday agreement and arguments against. The Irish Republicans wanted a untied Ireland the UVF wanted to totally destroy the Irish Republicans . But after decades of violence they came to the table and stopped the killing. Yes they are now probably gangsters and extortionists but people can now take down the fences stop checking the bottom of their cars and deliver fucking pizza not worrying about being shot! So it’s not perfect but it works and that’s what thatcher, Mo Mowlem the Irish Taoiseach etc set out to achieve. Brexit is brought about by xenophobic media lead ignorance and if it risks starting the troubles then that will just sum up the whole stupid shallow farce that is Brexit . No thought at all for the reality of what he’s lead us to. Boris will be responsible for setting back the economy years, losing the union and starting a conflict in Ireland again . He will certainly get his wish to be in the history books! So you've said many, many times, and so have I and other brexiters told you many, many times the reasons for our vote which are nothing to do with your own prejudices. Peter Ustinov once said to me: the most important thing in life is to defeat your own prejudices. " That interesting coming from someone who has made repeated references to a new British Empire and all the underlying subjugation and racism that conveys. BTW pound at 1.13 against the Euro today... How’s the new job of currency speculator going ??? | |||
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"Of course there were faults in the good Friday agreement and arguments against. The Irish Republicans wanted a untied Ireland the UVF wanted to totally destroy the Irish Republicans . But after decades of violence they came to the table and stopped the killing. Yes they are now probably gangsters and extortionists but people can now take down the fences stop checking the bottom of their cars and deliver fucking pizza not worrying about being shot! So it’s not perfect but it works and that’s what thatcher, Mo Mowlem the Irish Taoiseach etc set out to achieve. Brexit is brought about by xenophobic media lead ignorance and if it risks starting the troubles then that will just sum up the whole stupid shallow farce that is Brexit . No thought at all for the reality of what he’s lead us to. Boris will be responsible for setting back the economy years, losing the union and starting a conflict in Ireland again . He will certainly get his wish to be in the history books! So you've said many, many times, and so have I and other brexiters told you many, many times the reasons for our vote which are nothing to do with your own prejudices. Peter Ustinov once said to me: the most important thing in life is to defeat your own prejudices. That interesting coming from someone who has made repeated references to a new British Empire and all the underlying subjugation and racism that conveys. BTW pound at 1.13 against the Euro today... How’s the new job of currency speculator going ???" It's been at 1.14 all morning, we've discussed your credibility with me several times. | |||
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"Of course there were faults in the good Friday agreement and arguments against. The Irish Republicans wanted a untied Ireland the UVF wanted to totally destroy the Irish Republicans . But after decades of violence they came to the table and stopped the killing. Yes they are now probably gangsters and extortionists but people can now take down the fences stop checking the bottom of their cars and deliver fucking pizza not worrying about being shot! So it’s not perfect but it works and that’s what thatcher, Mo Mowlem the Irish Taoiseach etc set out to achieve. Brexit is brought about by xenophobic media lead ignorance and if it risks starting the troubles then that will just sum up the whole stupid shallow farce that is Brexit . No thought at all for the reality of what he’s lead us to. Boris will be responsible for setting back the economy years, losing the union and starting a conflict in Ireland again . He will certainly get his wish to be in the history books! So you've said many, many times, and so have I and other brexiters told you many, many times the reasons for our vote which are nothing to do with your own prejudices. Peter Ustinov once said to me: the most important thing in life is to defeat your own prejudices. That interesting coming from someone who has made repeated references to a new British Empire and all the underlying subjugation and racism that conveys. BTW pound at 1.13 against the Euro today... How’s the new job of currency speculator going ??? It's been at 1.14 all morning, we've discussed your credibility with me several times. " As of 13:30 today it is at 1.1386 so that is nearly 1.14 | |||
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"It seems a good first step that at least people ITT are finally acknowledging that the GFA isn't perfect. Bit like when pushed remainers tend to accept that Brussels isn't perfect either. God give me the gift to see, ourselves as others see us. " Perfect is the enemy of good - Voltaire Having seen life here both sides of the GFA, I know which one I prefer. My youngest said to me a few years ago 'did you know there was a war here in the 1980's?' I love that ignorance whereas I pity yours. Now as others have suggested, go do your forex thing. | |||
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"Of course there were faults in the good Friday agreement and arguments against. The Irish Republicans wanted a untied Ireland the UVF wanted to totally destroy the Irish Republicans . But after decades of violence they came to the table and stopped the killing. Yes they are now probably gangsters and extortionists but people can now take down the fences stop checking the bottom of their cars and deliver fucking pizza not worrying about being shot! So it’s not perfect but it works and that’s what thatcher, Mo Mowlem the Irish Taoiseach etc set out to achieve. Brexit is brought about by xenophobic media lead ignorance and if it risks starting the troubles then that will just sum up the whole stupid shallow farce that is Brexit . No thought at all for the reality of what he’s lead us to. Boris will be responsible for setting back the economy years, losing the union and starting a conflict in Ireland again . He will certainly get his wish to be in the history books! So you've said many, many times, and so have I and other brexiters told you many, many times the reasons for our vote which are nothing to do with your own prejudices. Peter Ustinov once said to me: the most important thing in life is to defeat your own prejudices. " If I don’t vote for change how can I be prejudice against anything that was in existence? You’re not making any sense again. The total lack of a plan regarding Brexit has brought us to a point where violence is a high risk going forward in Ireland. To then criticise the GFA and state Brexit is a good thing as it’s triggered a review of the agreement is ignorant beyond belief! | |||
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"It seems a good first step that at least people ITT are finally acknowledging that the GFA isn't perfect. Bit like when pushed remainers tend to accept that Brussels isn't perfect either. God give me the gift to see, ourselves as others see us. " But Brexit is perfect of course. You see when there's a conflict you have to make compromises and sacrifices so whatever side you're standing on it's not going to be perfect but it's definitely better than terror, bloodshed, oppression etc. The GFA has brought decades of 'troubles' to an end and no one should throw that away lightly in the heat of the moment or for an one sided ideology because the consequences of it are far further reaching than some hiccups with supply of goods across the Irish sea. | |||
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"It seems a good first step that at least people ITT are finally acknowledging that the GFA isn't perfect. Bit like when pushed remainers tend to accept that Brussels isn't perfect either. God give me the gift to see, ourselves as others see us. " Indeed remainers agree Brussels isn’t perfect but just like the GFA it works and is so much better than the alternative. Shame we can’t post a picture of a clown then we could show you! You keep lining them up  | |||
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"Of course there were faults in the good Friday agreement and arguments against. The Irish Republicans wanted a untied Ireland the UVF wanted to totally destroy the Irish Republicans . But after decades of violence they came to the table and stopped the killing. Yes they are now probably gangsters and extortionists but people can now take down the fences stop checking the bottom of their cars and deliver fucking pizza not worrying about being shot! So it’s not perfect but it works and that’s what thatcher, Mo Mowlem the Irish Taoiseach etc set out to achieve. Brexit is brought about by xenophobic media lead ignorance and if it risks starting the troubles then that will just sum up the whole stupid shallow farce that is Brexit . No thought at all for the reality of what he’s lead us to. Boris will be responsible for setting back the economy years, losing the union and starting a conflict in Ireland again . He will certainly get his wish to be in the history books! So you've said many, many times, and so have I and other brexiters told you many, many times the reasons for our vote which are nothing to do with your own prejudices. Peter Ustinov once said to me: the most important thing in life is to defeat your own prejudices. If I don’t vote for change how can I be prejudice against anything that was in existence? You’re not making any sense again. The total lack of a plan regarding Brexit has brought us to a point where violence is a high risk going forward in Ireland. To then criticise the GFA and state Brexit is a good thing as it’s triggered a review of the agreement is ignorant beyond belief! " Hey so long as those "gangsters and extortionists" as you put it don't get too big and bossy, sounds like a plan. | |||
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"Of course there were faults in the good Friday agreement and arguments against. The Irish Republicans wanted a untied Ireland the UVF wanted to totally destroy the Irish Republicans . But after decades of violence they came to the table and stopped the killing. Yes they are now probably gangsters and extortionists but people can now take down the fences stop checking the bottom of their cars and deliver fucking pizza not worrying about being shot! So it’s not perfect but it works and that’s what thatcher, Mo Mowlem the Irish Taoiseach etc set out to achieve. Brexit is brought about by xenophobic media lead ignorance and if it risks starting the troubles then that will just sum up the whole stupid shallow farce that is Brexit . No thought at all for the reality of what he’s lead us to. Boris will be responsible for setting back the economy years, losing the union and starting a conflict in Ireland again . He will certainly get his wish to be in the history books! So you've said many, many times, and so have I and other brexiters told you many, many times the reasons for our vote which are nothing to do with your own prejudices. Peter Ustinov once said to me: the most important thing in life is to defeat your own prejudices. If I don’t vote for change how can I be prejudice against anything that was in existence? You’re not making any sense again. The total lack of a plan regarding Brexit has brought us to a point where violence is a high risk going forward in Ireland. To then criticise the GFA and state Brexit is a good thing as it’s triggered a review of the agreement is ignorant beyond belief! Hey so long as those "gangsters and extortionists" as you put it don't get too big and bossy, sounds like a plan. " The Irish and northern Irish police are dealing with that and will continue to do so. What about the pizza and the fencing . No comment? | |||
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"Of course there were faults in the good Friday agreement and arguments against. The Irish Republicans wanted a untied Ireland the UVF wanted to totally destroy the Irish Republicans . But after decades of violence they came to the table and stopped the killing. Yes they are now probably gangsters and extortionists but people can now take down the fences stop checking the bottom of their cars and deliver fucking pizza not worrying about being shot! So it’s not perfect but it works and that’s what thatcher, Mo Mowlem the Irish Taoiseach etc set out to achieve. Brexit is brought about by xenophobic media lead ignorance and if it risks starting the troubles then that will just sum up the whole stupid shallow farce that is Brexit . No thought at all for the reality of what he’s lead us to. Boris will be responsible for setting back the economy years, losing the union and starting a conflict in Ireland again . He will certainly get his wish to be in the history books! So you've said many, many times, and so have I and other brexiters told you many, many times the reasons for our vote which are nothing to do with your own prejudices. Peter Ustinov once said to me: the most important thing in life is to defeat your own prejudices. If I don’t vote for change how can I be prejudice against anything that was in existence? You’re not making any sense again. The total lack of a plan regarding Brexit has brought us to a point where violence is a high risk going forward in Ireland. To then criticise the GFA and state Brexit is a good thing as it’s triggered a review of the agreement is ignorant beyond belief! Hey so long as those "gangsters and extortionists" as you put it don't get too big and bossy, sounds like a plan. The Irish and northern Irish police are dealing with that and will continue to do so. What about the pizza and the fencing . No comment? " How have those police been dealing with punishment beatings, bonfires, murals and orange order marches over the past twenty years? All brushed under the carpet until a sufficiently large atrocity occurs that can't be ignored, like the murder of that young journalist last year. | |||
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"What do the people of Ireland want ? And why ? Mainly want the GFA to be honoured to avoid a return to the troubles. Not reunification? Or is that a minority? From my perspective Ireland is a different matter than the rest of the U.K. as it’s an entire island and so should be treated as a whole country. I don’t see why there should not be vote to see what the consensus is in both the north and the south. But I’m not Irish or a politician so what do I know
It's approx 50/50 in the north. Or it was before brexit. Maybe it's changed now.
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"the brexaholics level of ignorance on the GFA is stratospheric. i for one don't fancy going back to the days of crawling face down out of Barnes's with your fish and chips trying not to get shot by the gunfighters as you attempt to get your dinner back to the bedsit without bursting the carton of curry sauce." Would you prefer a whole Ireland ? | |||
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"Of course there were faults in the good Friday agreement and arguments against. The Irish Republicans wanted a untied Ireland the UVF wanted to totally destroy the Irish Republicans . But after decades of violence they came to the table and stopped the killing. Yes they are now probably gangsters and extortionists but people can now take down the fences stop checking the bottom of their cars and deliver fucking pizza not worrying about being shot! So it’s not perfect but it works and that’s what thatcher, Mo Mowlem the Irish Taoiseach etc set out to achieve. Brexit is brought about by xenophobic media lead ignorance and if it risks starting the troubles then that will just sum up the whole stupid shallow farce that is Brexit . No thought at all for the reality of what he’s lead us to. Boris will be responsible for setting back the economy years, losing the union and starting a conflict in Ireland again . He will certainly get his wish to be in the history books! So you've said many, many times, and so have I and other brexiters told you many, many times the reasons for our vote which are nothing to do with your own prejudices. Peter Ustinov once said to me: the most important thing in life is to defeat your own prejudices. If I don’t vote for change how can I be prejudice against anything that was in existence? You’re not making any sense again. The total lack of a plan regarding Brexit has brought us to a point where violence is a high risk going forward in Ireland. To then criticise the GFA and state Brexit is a good thing as it’s triggered a review of the agreement is ignorant beyond belief! Hey so long as those "gangsters and extortionists" as you put it don't get too big and bossy, sounds like a plan. The Irish and northern Irish police are dealing with that and will continue to do so. What about the pizza and the fencing . No comment? How have those police been dealing with punishment beatings, bonfires, murals and orange order marches over the past twenty years? All brushed under the carpet until a sufficiently large atrocity occurs that can't be ignored, like the murder of that young journalist last year. " It's work in progress, we're getting there, but your concern is touching and appreciated. Now for the Nth time, messing with the GFA won't help your current predicament. You won, get over it. | |||
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"Of course there were faults in the good Friday agreement and arguments against. The Irish Republicans wanted a untied Ireland the UVF wanted to totally destroy the Irish Republicans . But after decades of violence they came to the table and stopped the killing. Yes they are now probably gangsters and extortionists but people can now take down the fences stop checking the bottom of their cars and deliver fucking pizza not worrying about being shot! So it’s not perfect but it works and that’s what thatcher, Mo Mowlem the Irish Taoiseach etc set out to achieve. Brexit is brought about by xenophobic media lead ignorance and if it risks starting the troubles then that will just sum up the whole stupid shallow farce that is Brexit . No thought at all for the reality of what he’s lead us to. Boris will be responsible for setting back the economy years, losing the union and starting a conflict in Ireland again . He will certainly get his wish to be in the history books! So you've said many, many times, and so have I and other brexiters told you many, many times the reasons for our vote which are nothing to do with your own prejudices. Peter Ustinov once said to me: the most important thing in life is to defeat your own prejudices. If I don’t vote for change how can I be prejudice against anything that was in existence? You’re not making any sense again. The total lack of a plan regarding Brexit has brought us to a point where violence is a high risk going forward in Ireland. To then criticise the GFA and state Brexit is a good thing as it’s triggered a review of the agreement is ignorant beyond belief! Hey so long as those "gangsters and extortionists" as you put it don't get too big and bossy, sounds like a plan. The Irish and northern Irish police are dealing with that and will continue to do so. What about the pizza and the fencing . No comment? How have those police been dealing with punishment beatings, bonfires, murals and orange order marches over the past twenty years? All brushed under the carpet until a sufficiently large atrocity occurs that can't be ignored, like the murder of that young journalist last year. " Lyra McKee was murdered in 2019 and the “New IRA” admitted responsibility and a 52 year old man has now been charged with her murder. The roots of sectarian violence go back decades and can even be traced by to Oliver Cromwell... You are not going to change hard line views like the Orange order or The New IRA overnight but the GFA provided a peace framework in which these social decision can be worked through witout the use of bomb or bullet. You only need to look at other countries where there has been civil conflicts to see that peace agreements don’t end everything straight away the full results take time and effort. To say that things are being swept under the carpet is just plain ignorance of the community dynamics in play on both sides of the conflict and the role law enforcement has to play in not escalating issues. | |||
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"And the result of this appeasement is you've now got thugs parading around Belfast docks demanding their drugs be let off the ships while the police are stood there unwilling to intervene. " it's what you voted for | |||
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"And the result of this appeasement is you've now got thugs parading around Belfast docks demanding their drugs be let off the ships while the police are stood there unwilling to intervene. it's what you voted for Haven't changed my view So your view is you wanted "thugs parading around Belfast docks demanding their drugs be let off the ships" While simultaneously not wanting "thugs parading around Belfast docks demanding their drugs be let off the ships". Excellent." You're being purposely obtuse. I vote for law and order. | |||
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"And the result of this appeasement is you've now got thugs parading around Belfast docks demanding their drugs be let off the ships while the police are stood there unwilling to intervene. it's what you voted for Haven't changed my view So your view is you wanted "thugs parading around Belfast docks demanding their drugs be let off the ships" While simultaneously not wanting "thugs parading around Belfast docks demanding their drugs be let off the ships". Excellent." That's brexit for you. A couple of weeks ago the Express had a front page triumphant about foreign boats being denied access to British waters. The following day they were outraged at British boats being denied access to EU waters. | |||
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"And the result of this appeasement is you've now got thugs parading around Belfast docks demanding their drugs be let off the ships while the police are stood there unwilling to intervene. " Appeasement? What are you on about now? Please do come back to reality and then try accept we're not abandoning the GFA | |||
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"Was always on the cards with the GFA that nodded through all smuggling for the sake of an easy life. Brexit just means that cock up has finally got to be addressed properly. The GFA a cock up????
What would you call not enforcing the law? Billions of pounds of diesel, cigarettes and alcohol smuggled across the boarder since the GFA with zero enforcement.
Yes and being able to order a pizza without wondering if the delivery guy will be shot which happened when I was in Newry for a night.
Unless you’ve lived under that constant threat and intimidation you haven’t got a clue.
I’ve not lived there but during the troubles it was not nice place to be.
So fuck the tax on the cigarettes and the diesel shouldn’t be so fucking expensive due to U.K. tax in the first place. Try catching the tax dodgers in the city of London before you start encouraging violence back to Northern Ireland.
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"And the result of this appeasement is you've now got thugs parading around Belfast docks demanding their drugs be let off the ships while the police are stood there unwilling to intervene. it's what you voted for Haven't changed my view So your view is you wanted "thugs parading around Belfast docks demanding their drugs be let off the ships" While simultaneously not wanting "thugs parading around Belfast docks demanding their drugs be let off the ships". Excellent. That's brexit for you. A couple of weeks ago the Express had a front page triumphant about foreign boats being denied access to British waters. The following day they were outraged at British boats being denied access to EU waters. " The Express is a parody paper like NewsThump. Only some people take it seriously. | |||
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"And the result of this appeasement is you've now got thugs parading around Belfast docks demanding their drugs be let off the ships while the police are stood there unwilling to intervene. it's what you voted for Haven't changed my view So your view is you wanted "thugs parading around Belfast docks demanding their drugs be let off the ships" While simultaneously not wanting "thugs parading around Belfast docks demanding their drugs be let off the ships". Excellent. You're being purposely obtuse. I vote for law and order. I don’t remember people living in GB actually voting for the GFA though It was an All Ireland vote." They are trying to justify overturning the GFA, even if that means borrowing from alternative realities to do so. | |||
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"And the result of this appeasement is you've now got thugs parading around Belfast docks demanding their drugs be let off the ships while the police are stood there unwilling to intervene. it's what you voted for Haven't changed my view So your view is you wanted "thugs parading around Belfast docks demanding their drugs be let off the ships" While simultaneously not wanting "thugs parading around Belfast docks demanding their drugs be let off the ships". Excellent. You're being purposely obtuse. I vote for law and order. Your buffoon in chief has just rejected an amendment restricting further trade with countries who commit genocide so who's law and order are you referring to? Did you vote on that ? I didn’t see a ballot !!" I've never voted for him. You seem to make a lot of assumptions. | |||
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"And the result of this appeasement is you've now got thugs parading around Belfast docks demanding their drugs be let off the ships while the police are stood there unwilling to intervene. it's what you voted for Haven't changed my view So your view is you wanted "thugs parading around Belfast docks demanding their drugs be let off the ships" While simultaneously not wanting "thugs parading around Belfast docks demanding their drugs be let off the ships". Excellent. You're being purposely obtuse. I vote for law and order. Your buffoon in chief has just rejected an amendment restricting further trade with countries who commit genocide so who's law and order are you referring to? Did you vote on that ? I didn’t see a ballot !! I've never voted for him. You seem to make a lot of assumptions. " I didn’t say you did vote for him but you did support his Brexit as you claim . So you own his rise to glory! Or don’t you vote on Brexit either? | |||
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"And the result of this appeasement is you've now got thugs parading around Belfast docks demanding their drugs be let off the ships while the police are stood there unwilling to intervene. it's what you voted for Haven't changed my view So your view is you wanted "thugs parading around Belfast docks demanding their drugs be let off the ships" While simultaneously not wanting "thugs parading around Belfast docks demanding their drugs be let off the ships". Excellent. You're being purposely obtuse. I vote for law and order. Your buffoon in chief has just rejected an amendment restricting further trade with countries who commit genocide so who's law and order are you referring to? Did you vote on that ? I didn’t see a ballot !!" I think its more a case of who is to decide on the genocide aspect of the Trade Bill. The Lords want it to be The High Court, the Goverment are resisting this | |||
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"And the result of this appeasement is you've now got thugs parading around Belfast docks demanding their drugs be let off the ships while the police are stood there unwilling to intervene. it's what you voted for Haven't changed my view So your view is you wanted "thugs parading around Belfast docks demanding their drugs be let off the ships" While simultaneously not wanting "thugs parading around Belfast docks demanding their drugs be let off the ships". Excellent. You're being purposely obtuse. I vote for law and order. Your buffoon in chief has just rejected an amendment restricting further trade with countries who commit genocide so who's law and order are you referring to? Did you vote on that ? I didn’t see a ballot !! I think its more a case of who is to decide on the genocide aspect of the Trade Bill. The Lords want it to be The High Court, the Goverment are resisting this " I may be biased here but isn’t that politics over international law again?? | |||
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"And the result of this appeasement is you've now got thugs parading around Belfast docks demanding their drugs be let off the ships while the police are stood there unwilling to intervene. it's what you voted for Haven't changed my view So your view is you wanted "thugs parading around Belfast docks demanding their drugs be let off the ships" While simultaneously not wanting "thugs parading around Belfast docks demanding their drugs be let off the ships". Excellent. You're being purposely obtuse. I vote for law and order. Your buffoon in chief has just rejected an amendment restricting further trade with countries who commit genocide so who's law and order are you referring to? Did you vote on that ? I didn’t see a ballot !! I think its more a case of who is to decide on the genocide aspect of the Trade Bill. The Lords want it to be The High Court, the Goverment are resisting this I may be biased here but isn’t that politics over international law again?? " The UK Goverment see handing over genocide decisions to the High Court, as potentially handing over Trade policy to the judiciary. | |||
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"And the result of this appeasement is you've now got thugs parading around Belfast docks demanding their drugs be let off the ships while the police are stood there unwilling to intervene. it's what you voted for Haven't changed my view So your view is you wanted "thugs parading around Belfast docks demanding their drugs be let off the ships" While simultaneously not wanting "thugs parading around Belfast docks demanding their drugs be let off the ships". Excellent. You're being purposely obtuse. I vote for law and order. Your buffoon in chief has just rejected an amendment restricting further trade with countries who commit genocide so who's law and order are you referring to? Did you vote on that ? I didn’t see a ballot !! I think its more a case of who is to decide on the genocide aspect of the Trade Bill. The Lords want it to be The High Court, the Goverment are resisting this I may be biased here but isn’t that politics over international law again?? The UK Goverment see handing over genocide decisions to the High Court, as potentially handing over Trade policy to the judiciary. " Yes I can see that but the principal of human rights and therefore government policy are in effect linked . No men above the law in theory . I believe our give me t should be accountable if they take actions which support a tyrant who tortures his citizens . If we don’t then I should be free to fund a terrorist without impunity as I agree with his beliefs . | |||
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"Of course there were faults in the good Friday agreement and arguments against. The Irish Republicans wanted a untied Ireland the UVF wanted to totally destroy the Irish Republicans . But after decades of violence they came to the table and stopped the killing. Yes they are now probably gangsters and extortionists but people can now take down the fences stop checking the bottom of their cars and deliver fucking pizza not worrying about being shot! So it’s not perfect but it works and that’s what thatcher, Mo Mowlem the Irish Taoiseach etc set out to achieve. Brexit is brought about by xenophobic media lead ignorance and if it risks starting the troubles then that will just sum up the whole stupid shallow farce that is Brexit . No thought at all for the reality of what he’s lead us to. Boris will be responsible for setting back the economy years, losing the union and starting a conflict in Ireland again . He will certainly get his wish to be in the history books! So you've said many, many times, and so have I and other brexiters told you many, many times the reasons for our vote which are nothing to do with your own prejudices. Peter Ustinov once said to me: the most important thing in life is to defeat your own prejudices. If I don’t vote for change how can I be prejudice against anything that was in existence? You’re not making any sense again. The total lack of a plan regarding Brexit has brought us to a point where violence is a high risk going forward in Ireland. To then criticise the GFA and state Brexit is a good thing as it’s triggered a review of the agreement is ignorant beyond belief! Hey so long as those "gangsters and extortionists" as you put it don't get too big and bossy, sounds like a plan. The Irish and northern Irish police are dealing with that and will continue to do so. What about the pizza and the fencing . No comment? How have those police been dealing with punishment beatings, bonfires, murals and orange order marches over the past twenty years? All brushed under the carpet until a sufficiently large atrocity occurs that can't be ignored, like the murder of that young journalist last year. " Are murals and marches against the law? | |||
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"the brexaholics level of ignorance on the GFA is stratospheric. i for one don't fancy going back to the days of crawling face down out of Barnes's with your fish and chips trying not to get shot by the gunfighters as you attempt to get your dinner back to the bedsit without bursting the carton of curry sauce." That's Staines for you | |||
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"Of course there were faults in the good Friday agreement and arguments against. The Irish Republicans wanted a untied Ireland the UVF wanted to totally destroy the Irish Republicans . But after decades of violence they came to the table and stopped the killing. Yes they are now probably gangsters and extortionists but people can now take down the fences stop checking the bottom of their cars and deliver fucking pizza not worrying about being shot! So it’s not perfect but it works and that’s what thatcher, Mo Mowlem the Irish Taoiseach etc set out to achieve. Brexit is brought about by xenophobic media lead ignorance and if it risks starting the troubles then that will just sum up the whole stupid shallow farce that is Brexit . No thought at all for the reality of what he’s lead us to. Boris will be responsible for setting back the economy years, losing the union and starting a conflict in Ireland again . He will certainly get his wish to be in the history books! So you've said many, many times, and so have I and other brexiters told you many, many times the reasons for our vote which are nothing to do with your own prejudices. Peter Ustinov once said to me: the most important thing in life is to defeat your own prejudices. If I don’t vote for change how can I be prejudice against anything that was in existence? You’re not making any sense again. The total lack of a plan regarding Brexit has brought us to a point where violence is a high risk going forward in Ireland. To then criticise the GFA and state Brexit is a good thing as it’s triggered a review of the agreement is ignorant beyond belief! Hey so long as those "gangsters and extortionists" as you put it don't get too big and bossy, sounds like a plan. The Irish and northern Irish police are dealing with that and will continue to do so. What about the pizza and the fencing . No comment? How have those police been dealing with punishment beatings, bonfires, murals and orange order marches over the past twenty years? All brushed under the carpet until a sufficiently large atrocity occurs that can't be ignored, like the murder of that young journalist last year. Are murals and marches against the law?" If the 5 year old kids of the Falls and Shankill Roads hadn’t been exposed to them in 2005, do you think they’d still have grown upto be the “gangsters and extortionists” some of them are now? | |||
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"Very simple answer to the northern Irish border problem (or as we correctly call it,"the British border in Ireland ") Britain fuck off out of our country and Bring your army and the millon of your bigoted,sectarian, raceist, fundelamlist, hateful, orangemen, who hate everyone who live anywhere north of the 18th century, and you sort them out, along with the 3 million kong Kong guys, " We left "your country" in 1922. The British Army officially stood down in Northern Ireland in 2007. | |||
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"Very simple answer to the northern Irish border problem (or as we correctly call it,"the British border in Ireland ") Britain fuck off out of our country and Bring your army and the millon of your bigoted,sectarian, raceist, fundelamlist, hateful, orangemen, who hate everyone who live anywhere north of the 18th century, and you sort them out, along with the 3 million kong Kong guys, " This solution sounds like it might be disagreeable to the unionists who live in NI. And sounds like a definite return to violence. On a side note, we don't want those DUP types over here, we've enough pricks already. | |||
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"Very simple answer to the northern Irish border problem (or as we correctly call it,"the British border in Ireland ") Britain fuck off out of our country and Bring your army and the millon of your bigoted,sectarian, raceist, fundelamlist, hateful, orangemen, who hate everyone who live anywhere north of the 18th century, and you sort them out, along with the 3 million kong Kong guys, This solution sounds like it might be disagreeable to the unionists who live in NI. And sounds like a definite return to violence. On a side note, we don't want those DUP types over here, we've enough pricks already." And that, ladies and gentlemen, is where wishy washy liberalism gets you. Bile from the prejudiced. | |||
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"Very simple answer to the northern Irish border problem (or as we correctly call it,"the British border in Ireland ") Britain fuck off out of our country and Bring your army and the millon of your bigoted,sectarian, raceist, fundelamlist, hateful, orangemen, who hate everyone who live anywhere north of the 18th century, and you sort them out, along with the 3 million kong Kong guys, This solution sounds like it might be disagreeable to the unionists who live in NI. And sounds like a definite return to violence. On a side note, we don't want those DUP types over here, we've enough pricks already. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is where wishy washy liberalism gets you. Bile from the prejudiced. " Yes. I am comfortable being uncomfortable with homophobic racist science deniers. https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/dups-gregory-campbell-slammed-over-criticism-of-bbcs-all-black-line-up-on-songs-of-praise-40059955.html | |||
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"Very simple answer to the northern Irish border problem (or as we correctly call it,"the British border in Ireland ") Britain fuck off out of our country and Bring your army and the millon of your bigoted,sectarian, raceist, fundelamlist, hateful, orangemen, who hate everyone who live anywhere north of the 18th century, and you sort them out, along with the 3 million kong Kong guys, This solution sounds like it might be disagreeable to the unionists who live in NI. And sounds like a definite return to violence. On a side note, we don't want those DUP types over here, we've enough pricks already. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is where wishy washy liberalism gets you. Bile from the prejudiced. Yes. I am comfortable being uncomfortable with homophobic racist science deniers. https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/dups-gregory-campbell-slammed-over-criticism-of-bbcs-all-black-line-up-on-songs-of-praise-40059955.html" Probably about time for you to reflect on what I said about the GFA yesterday. The hate filled poster you’re apologising to shows how ridiculous it was. | |||
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"Very simple answer to the northern Irish border problem (or as we correctly call it,"the British border in Ireland ") Britain fuck off out of our country and Bring your army and the millon of your bigoted,sectarian, raceist, fundelamlist, hateful, orangemen, who hate everyone who live anywhere north of the 18th century, and you sort them out, along with the 3 million kong Kong guys, This solution sounds like it might be disagreeable to the unionists who live in NI. And sounds like a definite return to violence. On a side note, we don't want those DUP types over here, we've enough pricks already. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is where wishy washy liberalism gets you. Bile from the prejudiced. Yes. I am comfortable being uncomfortable with homophobic racist science deniers. https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/dups-gregory-campbell-slammed-over-criticism-of-bbcs-all-black-line-up-on-songs-of-praise-40059955.html Probably about time for you to reflect on what I said about the GFA yesterday. The hate filled poster you’re apologising to shows how ridiculous it was. " You posted a whole lot of weird conflicting and confused messages of the GFA yesterday. It wasn't clear what you were saying aside from brexits destabilising effect being a good thing. And I don't know who you think I'm apologising to. You do imagine some weird stuff sometimes. Post some more. | |||
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"Very simple answer to the northern Irish border problem (or as we correctly call it,"the British border in Ireland ") Britain fuck off out of our country and Bring your army and the millon of your bigoted,sectarian, raceist, fundelamlist, hateful, orangemen, who hate everyone who live anywhere north of the 18th century, and you sort them out, along with the 3 million kong Kong guys, This solution sounds like it might be disagreeable to the unionists who live in NI. And sounds like a definite return to violence. On a side note, we don't want those DUP types over here, we've enough pricks already. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is where wishy washy liberalism gets you. Bile from the prejudiced. Yes. I am comfortable being uncomfortable with homophobic racist science deniers. https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/dups-gregory-campbell-slammed-over-criticism-of-bbcs-all-black-line-up-on-songs-of-praise-40059955.html" The conservative party where quite willing to get into bed with that lot | |||
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"Very simple answer to the northern Irish border problem (or as we correctly call it,"the British border in Ireland ") Britain fuck off out of our country and Bring your army and the millon of your bigoted,sectarian, raceist, fundelamlist, hateful, orangemen, who hate everyone who live anywhere north of the 18th century, and you sort them out, along with the 3 million kong Kong guys, This solution sounds like it might be disagreeable to the unionists who live in NI. And sounds like a definite return to violence. On a side note, we don't want those DUP types over here, we've enough pricks already. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is where wishy washy liberalism gets you. Bile from the prejudiced. Yes. I am comfortable being uncomfortable with homophobic racist science deniers. https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/dups-gregory-campbell-slammed-over-criticism-of-bbcs-all-black-line-up-on-songs-of-praise-40059955.html The conservative party where quite willing to get into bed with that lot " How embarrassing for the DUP. Oh wait....  | |||
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"Very simple answer to the northern Irish border problem (or as we correctly call it,"the British border in Ireland ") Britain fuck off out of our country and Bring your army and the millon of your bigoted,sectarian, raceist, fundelamlist, hateful, orangemen, who hate everyone who live anywhere north of the 18th century, and you sort them out, along with the 3 million kong Kong guys, This solution sounds like it might be disagreeable to the unionists who live in NI. And sounds like a definite return to violence. On a side note, we don't want those DUP types over here, we've enough pricks already. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is where wishy washy liberalism gets you. Bile from the prejudiced. Yes. I am comfortable being uncomfortable with homophobic racist science deniers. https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/dups-gregory-campbell-slammed-over-criticism-of-bbcs-all-black-line-up-on-songs-of-praise-40059955.html The conservative party where quite willing to get into bed with that lot How embarrassing for the DUP. Oh wait.... "Let's deflect the thread onto the DUP and ignore the thug in the room eh. | |||
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"Very simple answer to the northern Irish border problem (or as we correctly call it,"the British border in Ireland ") Britain fuck off out of our country and Bring your army and the millon of your bigoted,sectarian, raceist, fundelamlist, hateful, orangemen, who hate everyone who live anywhere north of the 18th century, and you sort them out, along with the 3 million kong Kong guys, This solution sounds like it might be disagreeable to the unionists who live in NI. And sounds like a definite return to violence. On a side note, we don't want those DUP types over here, we've enough pricks already. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is where wishy washy liberalism gets you. Bile from the prejudiced. Yes. I am comfortable being uncomfortable with homophobic racist science deniers. https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/dups-gregory-campbell-slammed-over-criticism-of-bbcs-all-black-line-up-on-songs-of-praise-40059955.html The conservative party where quite willing to get into bed with that lot How embarrassing for the DUP. Oh wait....
Let's deflect the thread onto the DUP and ignore the thug in the room eh. "I wonder what you’d be saying if the roles were reversed and the Irish were occupying Yorkshire for instance The reality is the that the border was forced upon the Irish people by the British Government promising “immediate and terrible” war if they didn’t accede to it immediately They was against the wishes of 5/6th of the population who wanted their country united The result of partition has seen 100 years of trouble to varying or lesser degrees but it all started with the British and they forcing a border on this island The irony of brexiteers whinging about the protocol isn’t lost on the Irish | |||
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"Very simple answer to the northern Irish border problem (or as we correctly call it,"the British border in Ireland ") Britain fuck off out of our country and Bring your army and the millon of your bigoted,sectarian, raceist, fundelamlist, hateful, orangemen, who hate everyone who live anywhere north of the 18th century, and you sort them out, along with the 3 million kong Kong guys, This solution sounds like it might be disagreeable to the unionists who live in NI. And sounds like a definite return to violence. On a side note, we don't want those DUP types over here, we've enough pricks already. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is where wishy washy liberalism gets you. Bile from the prejudiced. Yes. I am comfortable being uncomfortable with homophobic racist science deniers. https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/dups-gregory-campbell-slammed-over-criticism-of-bbcs-all-black-line-up-on-songs-of-praise-40059955.html The conservative party where quite willing to get into bed with that lot How embarrassing for the DUP. Oh wait....
Let's deflect the thread onto the DUP and ignore the thug in the room eh.
I wonder what you’d be saying if the roles were reversed and the Irish were occupying Yorkshire for instance
The reality is the that the border was forced upon the Irish people by the British Government promising “immediate and terrible” war if they didn’t accede to it immediately
They was against the wishes of 5/6th of the population who wanted their country united
The result of partition has seen 100 years of trouble to varying or lesser degrees but it all started with the British and they forcing a border on this island
The irony of brexiteers whinging about the protocol isn’t lost on the Irish
"Sounds like you don't remotely believe in the GFA either, which was my whole point. | |||
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"Very simple answer to the northern Irish border problem (or as we correctly call it,"the British border in Ireland ") Britain fuck off out of our country and Bring your army and the millon of your bigoted,sectarian, raceist, fundelamlist, hateful, orangemen, who hate everyone who live anywhere north of the 18th century, and you sort them out, along with the 3 million kong Kong guys, This solution sounds like it might be disagreeable to the unionists who live in NI. And sounds like a definite return to violence. On a side note, we don't want those DUP types over here, we've enough pricks already. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is where wishy washy liberalism gets you. Bile from the prejudiced. Yes. I am comfortable being uncomfortable with homophobic racist science deniers. https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/dups-gregory-campbell-slammed-over-criticism-of-bbcs-all-black-line-up-on-songs-of-praise-40059955.html The conservative party where quite willing to get into bed with that lot How embarrassing for the DUP. Oh wait....
Let's deflect the thread onto the DUP and ignore the thug in the room eh.
I wonder what you’d be saying if the roles were reversed and the Irish were occupying Yorkshire for instance
The reality is the that the border was forced upon the Irish people by the British Government promising “immediate and terrible” war if they didn’t accede to it immediately
They was against the wishes of 5/6th of the population who wanted their country united
The result of partition has seen 100 years of trouble to varying or lesser degrees but it all started with the British and they forcing a border on this island
The irony of brexiteers whinging about the protocol isn’t lost on the Irish
Sounds like you don't remotely believe in the GFA either, which was my whole point. "I’m baffled as to how you could get that I’m anti GFA from anything I’ve said there I’ll indulge you for a while I presume you are fully in favor of articles 2 and 3 of the Irish constitution being reinstated if you got your way and the GFA were torn up? | |||
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"Very simple answer to the northern Irish border problem (or as we correctly call it,"the British border in Ireland ") Britain fuck off out of our country and Bring your army and the millon of your bigoted,sectarian, raceist, fundelamlist, hateful, orangemen, who hate everyone who live anywhere north of the 18th century, and you sort them out, along with the 3 million kong Kong guys, This solution sounds like it might be disagreeable to the unionists who live in NI. And sounds like a definite return to violence. On a side note, we don't want those DUP types over here, we've enough pricks already. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is where wishy washy liberalism gets you. Bile from the prejudiced. Yes. I am comfortable being uncomfortable with homophobic racist science deniers. https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/dups-gregory-campbell-slammed-over-criticism-of-bbcs-all-black-line-up-on-songs-of-praise-40059955.html The conservative party where quite willing to get into bed with that lot How embarrassing for the DUP. Oh wait....
Let's deflect the thread onto the DUP and ignore the thug in the room eh.
I wonder what you’d be saying if the roles were reversed and the Irish were occupying Yorkshire for instance
The reality is the that the border was forced upon the Irish people by the British Government promising “immediate and terrible” war if they didn’t accede to it immediately
They was against the wishes of 5/6th of the population who wanted their country united
The result of partition has seen 100 years of trouble to varying or lesser degrees but it all started with the British and they forcing a border on this island
The irony of brexiteers whinging about the protocol isn’t lost on the Irish
Sounds like you don't remotely believe in the GFA either, which was my whole point.
I’m baffled as to how you could get that I’m anti GFA from anything I’ve said there
I’ll indulge you for a while
I presume you are fully in favor of articles 2 and 3 of the Irish constitution being reinstated if you got your way and the GFA were torn up?
"I've not remotely commented on the Irish constitution. Britain doesn't even have a written constitution for a start. All I've said is that the GFA tolerates "gangsters and extortionists" as another poster described them. And that was always going to end badly when they got too bolshie, which they now have. | |||
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"Very simple answer to the northern Irish border problem (or as we correctly call it,"the British border in Ireland ") Britain fuck off out of our country and Bring your army and the millon of your bigoted,sectarian, raceist, fundelamlist, hateful, orangemen, who hate everyone who live anywhere north of the 18th century, and you sort them out, along with the 3 million kong Kong guys, This solution sounds like it might be disagreeable to the unionists who live in NI. And sounds like a definite return to violence. On a side note, we don't want those DUP types over here, we've enough pricks already. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is where wishy washy liberalism gets you. Bile from the prejudiced. Yes. I am comfortable being uncomfortable with homophobic racist science deniers. https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/dups-gregory-campbell-slammed-over-criticism-of-bbcs-all-black-line-up-on-songs-of-praise-40059955.html The conservative party where quite willing to get into bed with that lot How embarrassing for the DUP. Oh wait....
Let's deflect the thread onto the DUP and ignore the thug in the room eh.
I wonder what you’d be saying if the roles were reversed and the Irish were occupying Yorkshire for instance
The reality is the that the border was forced upon the Irish people by the British Government promising “immediate and terrible” war if they didn’t accede to it immediately
They was against the wishes of 5/6th of the population who wanted their country united
The result of partition has seen 100 years of trouble to varying or lesser degrees but it all started with the British and they forcing a border on this island
The irony of brexiteers whinging about the protocol isn’t lost on the Irish
Sounds like you don't remotely believe in the GFA either, which was my whole point.
I’m baffled as to how you could get that I’m anti GFA from anything I’ve said there
I’ll indulge you for a while
I presume you are fully in favor of articles 2 and 3 of the Irish constitution being reinstated if you got your way and the GFA were torn up?
I've not remotely commented on the Irish constitution. Britain doesn't even have a written constitution for a start.
All I've said is that the GFA tolerates "gangsters and extortionists" as another poster described them. And that was always going to end badly when they got too bolshie, which they now have. "You clearly don’t have a clue about what your talking about | |||
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"Very simple answer to the northern Irish border problem (or as we correctly call it,"the British border in Ireland ") Britain fuck off out of our country and Bring your army and the millon of your bigoted,sectarian, raceist, fundelamlist, hateful, orangemen, who hate everyone who live anywhere north of the 18th century, and you sort them out, along with the 3 million kong Kong guys, This solution sounds like it might be disagreeable to the unionists who live in NI. And sounds like a definite return to violence. On a side note, we don't want those DUP types over here, we've enough pricks already. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is where wishy washy liberalism gets you. Bile from the prejudiced. Yes. I am comfortable being uncomfortable with homophobic racist science deniers. https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/dups-gregory-campbell-slammed-over-criticism-of-bbcs-all-black-line-up-on-songs-of-praise-40059955.html The conservative party where quite willing to get into bed with that lot How embarrassing for the DUP. Oh wait....
Let's deflect the thread onto the DUP and ignore the thug in the room eh.
I wonder what you’d be saying if the roles were reversed and the Irish were occupying Yorkshire for instance
The reality is the that the border was forced upon the Irish people by the British Government promising “immediate and terrible” war if they didn’t accede to it immediately
They was against the wishes of 5/6th of the population who wanted their country united
The result of partition has seen 100 years of trouble to varying or lesser degrees but it all started with the British and they forcing a border on this island
The irony of brexiteers whinging about the protocol isn’t lost on the Irish
Sounds like you don't remotely believe in the GFA either, which was my whole point.
I’m baffled as to how you could get that I’m anti GFA from anything I’ve said there
I’ll indulge you for a while
I presume you are fully in favor of articles 2 and 3 of the Irish constitution being reinstated if you got your way and the GFA were torn up?
I've not remotely commented on the Irish constitution. Britain doesn't even have a written constitution for a start.
All I've said is that the GFA tolerates "gangsters and extortionists" as another poster described them. And that was always going to end badly when they got too bolshie, which they now have.
You clearly don’t have a clue about what your talking about "Well that's me told | |||
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