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"Lionel your glass is nearly empty mate. Don't worry up topping it up though " Simply pointing out a report by the IMF. Still what would they know? | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/bank-of-england-sees-economy-recovering-rapidly-as-vaccines-rolled-out-12208428" Good news, the vaccine is our saviour | |||
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"Lionel your glass is nearly empty mate. Don't worry up topping it up though Simply pointing out a report by the IMF. Still what would they know? Is this the same IMF who warned of 'dire consequences' that would follow a vote to leave and then backtracked? " What you mean like prices going up and more red tape? | |||
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"Lionel your glass is nearly empty mate. Don't worry up topping it up though Simply pointing out a report by the IMF. Still what would they know? Is this the same IMF who warned of 'dire consequences' that would follow a vote to leave and then backtracked? What you mean like prices going up and more red tape?" That all happened in 2016 did it? | |||
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"Lionel your glass is nearly empty mate. Don't worry up topping it up though Simply pointing out a report by the IMF. Still what would they know? Is this the same IMF who warned of 'dire consequences' that would follow a vote to leave and then backtracked? " So did the Bank of England ? | |||
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"Lionel your glass is nearly empty mate. Don't worry up topping it up though Simply pointing out a report by the IMF. Still what would they know? Is this the same IMF who warned of 'dire consequences' that would follow a vote to leave and then backtracked? What you mean like prices going up and more red tape? That all happened in 2016 did it?" Good point Sky news are obviously much more informed. | |||
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"Lionel your glass is nearly empty mate. Don't worry up topping it up though Simply pointing out a report by the IMF. Still what would they know? Is this the same IMF who warned of 'dire consequences' that would follow a vote to leave and then backtracked? So did the Bank of England ? " And? | |||
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"By 2025 the level of output is projected to recover to 5% below the pre covid trend reflecting weaker investment and higher unemployment. IMF." Lol.are you always such a ray of sunshine everywhere you go?nearly all your responses on topics are negative,miserable and bitter? | |||
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"By 2025 the level of output is projected to recover to 5% below the pre covid trend reflecting weaker investment and higher unemployment. IMF. Lol.are you always such a ray of sunshine everywhere you go?nearly all your responses on topics are negative,miserable and bitter?" It's not nearly all | |||
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"Lionel your glass is nearly empty mate. Don't worry up topping it up though Simply pointing out a report by the IMF. Still what would they know? Is this the same IMF who warned of 'dire consequences' that would follow a vote to leave and then backtracked? So did the Bank of England ? And?" So you now trust the bank of Englands forecast? Not the IMFs?? | |||
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"By 2025 the level of output is projected to recover to 5% below the pre covid trend reflecting weaker investment and higher unemployment. IMF. Lol.are you always such a ray of sunshine everywhere you go?nearly all your responses on topics are negative,miserable and bitter?" I always find people who start sentences with lol to be incredibly engaging. | |||
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"By 2025 the level of output is projected to recover to 5% below the pre covid trend reflecting weaker investment and higher unemployment. IMF. Lol.are you always such a ray of sunshine everywhere you go?nearly all your responses on topics are negative,miserable and bitter?" i must have missed the positive one when was that ? | |||
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"Lionel your glass is nearly empty mate. Don't worry up topping it up though Simply pointing out a report by the IMF. Still what would they know? Is this the same IMF who warned of 'dire consequences' that would follow a vote to leave and then backtracked? So did the Bank of England ? And? So you now trust the bank of Englands forecast? Not the IMFs??" Who said I trusted the BOE forecast? | |||
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"By 2025 the level of output is projected to recover to 5% below the pre covid trend reflecting weaker investment and higher unemployment. IMF. Lol.are you always such a ray of sunshine everywhere you go?nearly all your responses on topics are negative,miserable and bitter? I always find people who start sentences with lol to be incredibly engaging." Lol,thats fine. | |||
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"Lionel your glass is nearly empty mate. Don't worry up topping it up though Simply pointing out a report by the IMF. Still what would they know? Is this the same IMF who warned of 'dire consequences' that would follow a vote to leave and then backtracked? So did the Bank of England ? And? So you now trust the bank of Englands forecast? Not the IMFs?? Who said I trusted the BOE forecast?" The thread is about the BOE forecast | |||
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"Lionel your glass is nearly empty mate. Don't worry up topping it up though Simply pointing out a report by the IMF. Still what would they know? Is this the same IMF who warned of 'dire consequences' that would follow a vote to leave and then backtracked? So did the Bank of England ? And? So you now trust the bank of Englands forecast? Not the IMFs?? Who said I trusted the BOE forecast? The thread is about the BOE forecast " And? Where did I state I agree with that forecast? | |||
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"Lionel your glass is nearly empty mate. Don't worry up topping it up though Simply pointing out a report by the IMF. Still what would they know? Is this the same IMF who warned of 'dire consequences' that would follow a vote to leave and then backtracked? So did the Bank of England ? And? So you now trust the bank of Englands forecast? Not the IMFs?? Who said I trusted the BOE forecast? The thread is about the BOE forecast And? Where did I state I agree with that forecast?" O dear, so it’s bollocks then? And the OP is meaningless? | |||
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"Nicely hijacked as usual guys. I think I may be done with these forums " Haha, that’s probably for the best, be a shame to see you go though | |||
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"surely a forecast for 3 months ahead is likely to be more accurate than one for 4 years ahead? " Yes, that’s true? Have the BOE given a 4 year forecast as well?? | |||
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"Nicely hijacked as usual guys. I think I may be done with these forums " Stop being a drama queen There was a financial forecast posted I simply posted another one Then the thread got hijacked. Fuck all to do with me. | |||
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"Just to point the out another comment from the Bank of England. “The Bank was also clear that the post-Brexit trading rules will hit the economy, and that there are new "barriers" likely to lower trade between the UK and EU, some which are yet to emerge. This goes beyond the government's repeated claims that such changes are ‘teething problems’.” Did you also as Costa recommends read further see the flatline growth on all world trade until 2024! " | |||
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"Nicely hijacked as usual guys. I think I may be done with these forums Haha, that’s probably for the best, be a shame to see you go though " Probably is for the best. I actually thought I left the playground 20 years ago but you wouldn't have thought it being in here | |||
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"surely a forecast for 3 months ahead is likely to be more accurate than one for 4 years ahead? Yes, that’s true? Have the BOE given a 4 year forecast as well?? " I have no idea i thought this was about 3 months time. | |||
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"Nicely hijacked as usual guys. I think I may be done with these forums Haha, that’s probably for the best, be a shame to see you go though Probably is for the best. I actually thought I left the playground 20 years ago but you wouldn't have thought it being in here " I wouldn’t take it seriously. Stick around. | |||
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"surely a forecast for 3 months ahead is likely to be more accurate than one for 4 years ahead? Yes, that’s true? Have the BOE given a 4 year forecast as well?? I have no idea i thought this was about 3 months time. " It was. | |||
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"Nicely hijacked as usual guys. I think I may be done with these forums Haha, that’s probably for the best, be a shame to see you go though Probably is for the best. I actually thought I left the playground 20 years ago but you wouldn't have thought it being in here I wouldn’t take it seriously. Stick around. " For the large part I don't take it seriously but it would be nice if we could just have a few posts that weren't hijacked. | |||
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"Nicely hijacked as usual guys. I think I may be done with these forums Haha, that’s probably for the best, be a shame to see you go though Probably is for the best. I actually thought I left the playground 20 years ago but you wouldn't have thought it being in here " Ah well, you need to be thick skinned to take it on here, maybe your a bit to sensitive ? It’s only banter and bull shit | |||
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"Nicely hijacked as usual guys. I think I may be done with these forums Haha, that’s probably for the best, be a shame to see you go though Probably is for the best. I actually thought I left the playground 20 years ago but you wouldn't have thought it being in here Ah well, you need to be thick skinned to take it on here, maybe your a bit to sensitive ? It’s only banter and bull shit " You cant beat a good flounce tbf | |||
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"surely a forecast for 3 months ahead is likely to be more accurate than one for 4 years ahead? Yes, that’s true? Have the BOE given a 4 year forecast as well?? I have no idea i thought this was about 3 months time. It was." Ah, fair enough, I guess the 4 years forecast was done by the same people as the 3 month one? | |||
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"Nicely hijacked as usual guys. I think I may be done with these forums Haha, that’s probably for the best, be a shame to see you go though Probably is for the best. I actually thought I left the playground 20 years ago but you wouldn't have thought it being in here Ah well, you need to be thick skinned to take it on here, maybe your a bit to sensitive ? It’s only banter and bull shit " It is when you post but some on here like to use the forum for a proper debate which some people on here make it impossible to do. | |||
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"Lionel your glass is nearly empty mate. Don't worry up topping it up though Simply pointing out a report by the IMF. Still what would they know? Is this the same IMF who warned of 'dire consequences' that would follow a vote to leave and then backtracked? " IMF apologised 5 times in two years for wrongly predicting economic recovery in 5 countries during the last recession. You also have to remember that dealing with Macro Economics isn't the same as dealing with Micro Economics. | |||
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"Nicely hijacked as usual guys. I think I may be done with these forums Haha, that’s probably for the best, be a shame to see you go though Probably is for the best. I actually thought I left the playground 20 years ago but you wouldn't have thought it being in here Ah well, you need to be thick skinned to take it on here, maybe your a bit to sensitive ? It’s only banter and bull shit " Nah not sensitive in the slightest. As I said, it would be nice to have some threads that weren't hijacked. Politics I thought would be a fairly serious forum | |||
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"Nicely hijacked as usual guys. I think I may be done with these forums Haha, that’s probably for the best, be a shame to see you go though Probably is for the best. I actually thought I left the playground 20 years ago but you wouldn't have thought it being in here Ah well, you need to be thick skinned to take it on here, maybe your a bit to sensitive ? It’s only banter and bull shit Nah not sensitive in the slightest. As I said, it would be nice to have some threads that weren't hijacked. Politics I thought would be a fairly serious forum" Do you mean a thread where everyone agrees with the OP ? | |||
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"Nicely hijacked as usual guys. I think I may be done with these forums Haha, that’s probably for the best, be a shame to see you go though Probably is for the best. I actually thought I left the playground 20 years ago but you wouldn't have thought it being in here Ah well, you need to be thick skinned to take it on here, maybe your a bit to sensitive ? It’s only banter and bull shit It is when you post but some on here like to use the forum for a proper debate which some people on here make it impossible to do." So what are we ‘debating ‘ here, and are opposing views banned? | |||
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"Lionel your glass is nearly empty mate. Don't worry up topping it up though Simply pointing out a report by the IMF. Still what would they know? Is this the same IMF who warned of 'dire consequences' that would follow a vote to leave and then backtracked? What you mean like prices going up and more red tape? That all happened in 2016 did it?" Technically prices on imports went up in 2016 as the pound dropped like a stone.. just saying. We had to wait for the red tape. Lots now to enjoy though . | |||
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"Nicely hijacked as usual guys. I think I may be done with these forums Haha, that’s probably for the best, be a shame to see you go though Probably is for the best. I actually thought I left the playground 20 years ago but you wouldn't have thought it being in here Ah well, you need to be thick skinned to take it on here, maybe your a bit to sensitive ? It’s only banter and bull shit Nah not sensitive in the slightest. As I said, it would be nice to have some threads that weren't hijacked. Politics I thought would be a fairly serious forum Do you mean a thread where everyone agrees with the OP ? " No i mean where people actually debate rather than just stupid comments ,jackel seems about the only one on the remain side who debates it would be nice to see some others rather than people who are just out for a laugh and post shit as you put it. | |||
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"Nicely hijacked as usual guys. I think I may be done with these forums Haha, that’s probably for the best, be a shame to see you go though Probably is for the best. I actually thought I left the playground 20 years ago but you wouldn't have thought it being in here Ah well, you need to be thick skinned to take it on here, maybe your a bit to sensitive ? It’s only banter and bull shit Nah not sensitive in the slightest. As I said, it would be nice to have some threads that weren't hijacked. Politics I thought would be a fairly serious forum Do you mean a thread where everyone agrees with the OP ? " No one has to agree. But compare apples with apples and then there may be a valid debate | |||
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"Nicely hijacked as usual guys. I think I may be done with these forums Haha, that’s probably for the best, be a shame to see you go though Probably is for the best. I actually thought I left the playground 20 years ago but you wouldn't have thought it being in here Ah well, you need to be thick skinned to take it on here, maybe your a bit to sensitive ? It’s only banter and bull shit Nah not sensitive in the slightest. As I said, it would be nice to have some threads that weren't hijacked. Politics I thought would be a fairly serious forum Do you mean a thread where everyone agrees with the OP ? " Apparently discussing financial projections in a thread about financial projections constitutes hijacking. I think some people just crave attention. | |||
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"Nicely hijacked as usual guys. I think I may be done with these forums Haha, that’s probably for the best, be a shame to see you go though Probably is for the best. I actually thought I left the playground 20 years ago but you wouldn't have thought it being in here Ah well, you need to be thick skinned to take it on here, maybe your a bit to sensitive ? It’s only banter and bull shit Nah not sensitive in the slightest. As I said, it would be nice to have some threads that weren't hijacked. Politics I thought would be a fairly serious forum Do you mean a thread where everyone agrees with the OP ? No one has to agree. But compare apples with apples and then there may be a valid debate" That is what happened, the IMF forecast was compared with the BOE?? | |||
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"Nicely hijacked as usual guys. I think I may be done with these forums Haha, that’s probably for the best, be a shame to see you go though Probably is for the best. I actually thought I left the playground 20 years ago but you wouldn't have thought it being in here Ah well, you need to be thick skinned to take it on here, maybe your a bit to sensitive ? It’s only banter and bull shit Nah not sensitive in the slightest. As I said, it would be nice to have some threads that weren't hijacked. Politics I thought would be a fairly serious forum Do you mean a thread where everyone agrees with the OP ? No i mean where people actually debate rather than just stupid comments ,jackel seems about the only one on the remain side who debates it would be nice to see some others rather than people who are just out for a laugh and post shit as you put it." So highlighting the IMF forecast in response to the BOE is hijacking ?? | |||
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"Nicely hijacked as usual guys. I think I may be done with these forums Haha, that’s probably for the best, be a shame to see you go though Probably is for the best. I actually thought I left the playground 20 years ago but you wouldn't have thought it being in here Ah well, you need to be thick skinned to take it on here, maybe your a bit to sensitive ? It’s only banter and bull shit Nah not sensitive in the slightest. As I said, it would be nice to have some threads that weren't hijacked. Politics I thought would be a fairly serious forum Do you mean a thread where everyone agrees with the OP ? No one has to agree. But compare apples with apples and then there may be a valid debate That is what happened, the IMF forecast was compared with the BOE?? " One was short term and one long term. Not comparable | |||
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"Nicely hijacked as usual guys. I think I may be done with these forums Haha, that’s probably for the best, be a shame to see you go though Probably is for the best. I actually thought I left the playground 20 years ago but you wouldn't have thought it being in here Ah well, you need to be thick skinned to take it on here, maybe your a bit to sensitive ? It’s only banter and bull shit Nah not sensitive in the slightest. As I said, it would be nice to have some threads that weren't hijacked. Politics I thought would be a fairly serious forum Do you mean a thread where everyone agrees with the OP ? No one has to agree. But compare apples with apples and then there may be a valid debate That is what happened, the IMF forecast was compared with the BOE?? One was short term and one long term. Not comparable" Haha, seriously? Is that the new debatable parameters ? | |||
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"Nicely hijacked as usual guys. I think I may be done with these forums Haha, that’s probably for the best, be a shame to see you go though Probably is for the best. I actually thought I left the playground 20 years ago but you wouldn't have thought it being in here Ah well, you need to be thick skinned to take it on here, maybe your a bit to sensitive ? It’s only banter and bull shit Nah not sensitive in the slightest. As I said, it would be nice to have some threads that weren't hijacked. Politics I thought would be a fairly serious forum Do you mean a thread where everyone agrees with the OP ? No one has to agree. But compare apples with apples and then there may be a valid debate That is what happened, the IMF forecast was compared with the BOE?? One was short term and one long term. Not comparable Haha, seriously? Is that the new debatable parameters ? " I think they are broke | |||
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"Nicely hijacked as usual guys. I think I may be done with these forums Haha, that’s probably for the best, be a shame to see you go though Probably is for the best. I actually thought I left the playground 20 years ago but you wouldn't have thought it being in here Ah well, you need to be thick skinned to take it on here, maybe your a bit to sensitive ? It’s only banter and bull shit Nah not sensitive in the slightest. As I said, it would be nice to have some threads that weren't hijacked. Politics I thought would be a fairly serious forum Do you mean a thread where everyone agrees with the OP ? No one has to agree. But compare apples with apples and then there may be a valid debate That is what happened, the IMF forecast was compared with the BOE?? One was short term and one long term. Not comparable Haha, seriously? Is that the new debatable parameters ? " I don't set the parameters. I also don't have to accept them. Are you saying that comparing short term to long term is comparable? | |||
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"Nicely hijacked as usual guys. I think I may be done with these forums Haha, that’s probably for the best, be a shame to see you go though Probably is for the best. I actually thought I left the playground 20 years ago but you wouldn't have thought it being in here Ah well, you need to be thick skinned to take it on here, maybe your a bit to sensitive ? It’s only banter and bull shit Nah not sensitive in the slightest. As I said, it would be nice to have some threads that weren't hijacked. Politics I thought would be a fairly serious forum Do you mean a thread where everyone agrees with the OP ? No one has to agree. But compare apples with apples and then there may be a valid debate That is what happened, the IMF forecast was compared with the BOE?? One was short term and one long term. Not comparable Haha, seriously? Is that the new debatable parameters ? I don't set the parameters. I also don't have to accept them. Are you saying that comparing short term to long term is comparable?" Yes, are you saying that only short term forecasts are relevant ? | |||
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"Nicely hijacked as usual guys. I think I may be done with these forums Haha, that’s probably for the best, be a shame to see you go though Probably is for the best. I actually thought I left the playground 20 years ago but you wouldn't have thought it being in here Ah well, you need to be thick skinned to take it on here, maybe your a bit to sensitive ? It’s only banter and bull shit Nah not sensitive in the slightest. As I said, it would be nice to have some threads that weren't hijacked. Politics I thought would be a fairly serious forum Do you mean a thread where everyone agrees with the OP ? No one has to agree. But compare apples with apples and then there may be a valid debate That is what happened, the IMF forecast was compared with the BOE?? One was short term and one long term. Not comparable Haha, seriously? Is that the new debatable parameters ? I don't set the parameters. I also don't have to accept them. Are you saying that comparing short term to long term is comparable? Yes, are you saying that only short term forecasts are relevant ? " When you try to compare it to another short term forecast yeah. | |||
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"Nicely hijacked as usual guys. I think I may be done with these forums Haha, that’s probably for the best, be a shame to see you go though Probably is for the best. I actually thought I left the playground 20 years ago but you wouldn't have thought it being in here Ah well, you need to be thick skinned to take it on here, maybe your a bit to sensitive ? It’s only banter and bull shit Nah not sensitive in the slightest. As I said, it would be nice to have some threads that weren't hijacked. Politics I thought would be a fairly serious forum Do you mean a thread where everyone agrees with the OP ? No one has to agree. But compare apples with apples and then there may be a valid debate That is what happened, the IMF forecast was compared with the BOE?? One was short term and one long term. Not comparable Haha, seriously? Is that the new debatable parameters ? I don't set the parameters. I also don't have to accept them. Are you saying that comparing short term to long term is comparable? Yes, are you saying that only short term forecasts are relevant ? When you try to compare it to another short term forecast yeah. " Ok, yes he short term forecast for the next 3 months by the BOE is very encouraging, is that the end of the debate? | |||
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"Nicely hijacked as usual guys. I think I may be done with these forums Haha, that’s probably for the best, be a shame to see you go though Probably is for the best. I actually thought I left the playground 20 years ago but you wouldn't have thought it being in here Ah well, you need to be thick skinned to take it on here, maybe your a bit to sensitive ? It’s only banter and bull shit Nah not sensitive in the slightest. As I said, it would be nice to have some threads that weren't hijacked. Politics I thought would be a fairly serious forum Do you mean a thread where everyone agrees with the OP ? No one has to agree. But compare apples with apples and then there may be a valid debate That is what happened, the IMF forecast was compared with the BOE?? One was short term and one long term. Not comparable Haha, seriously? Is that the new debatable parameters ? I don't set the parameters. I also don't have to accept them. Are you saying that comparing short term to long term is comparable? Yes, are you saying that only short term forecasts are relevant ? When you try to compare it to another short term forecast yeah. Ok, yes he short term forecast for the next 3 months by the BOE is very encouraging, is that the end of the debate? " Forums don't have to be debates. | |||
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"Nicely hijacked as usual guys. I think I may be done with these forums Haha, that’s probably for the best, be a shame to see you go though Probably is for the best. I actually thought I left the playground 20 years ago but you wouldn't have thought it being in here Ah well, you need to be thick skinned to take it on here, maybe your a bit to sensitive ? It’s only banter and bull shit Nah not sensitive in the slightest. As I said, it would be nice to have some threads that weren't hijacked. Politics I thought would be a fairly serious forum Do you mean a thread where everyone agrees with the OP ? No one has to agree. But compare apples with apples and then there may be a valid debate That is what happened, the IMF forecast was compared with the BOE?? One was short term and one long term. Not comparable Haha, seriously? Is that the new debatable parameters ? I don't set the parameters. I also don't have to accept them. Are you saying that comparing short term to long term is comparable? Yes, are you saying that only short term forecasts are relevant ? When you try to compare it to another short term forecast yeah. Ok, yes he short term forecast for the next 3 months by the BOE is very encouraging, is that the end of the debate? Forums don't have to be debates. " Make your mind up | |||
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"Nicely hijacked as usual guys. I think I may be done with these forums Haha, that’s probably for the best, be a shame to see you go though Probably is for the best. I actually thought I left the playground 20 years ago but you wouldn't have thought it being in here Ah well, you need to be thick skinned to take it on here, maybe your a bit to sensitive ? It’s only banter and bull shit Nah not sensitive in the slightest. As I said, it would be nice to have some threads that weren't hijacked. Politics I thought would be a fairly serious forum Do you mean a thread where everyone agrees with the OP ? No one has to agree. But compare apples with apples and then there may be a valid debate That is what happened, the IMF forecast was compared with the BOE?? One was short term and one long term. Not comparable Haha, seriously? Is that the new debatable parameters ? I don't set the parameters. I also don't have to accept them. Are you saying that comparing short term to long term is comparable? Yes, are you saying that only short term forecasts are relevant ? When you try to compare it to another short term forecast yeah. Ok, yes he short term forecast for the next 3 months by the BOE is very encouraging, is that the end of the debate? Forums don't have to be debates. Make your mind up " When did I say a forum must be a debate? | |||
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"I think we need to set up a support group for people who are having some sort of breakdown " I think you need to stop mocking people and joking about mental health. | |||
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"I think we need to set up a support group for people who are having some sort of breakdown " I have thought that type of comment beneath you. | |||
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"I think we need to set up a support group for people who are having some sort of breakdown I have thought that type of comment beneath you." I agree I humbly apologise | |||
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"I think we need to set up a support group for people who are having some sort of breakdown I have thought that type of comment beneath you. I agree I humbly apologise " Takes a brave soul to apologise this way. TY. accepted just as humbly. | |||
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"I think we need to set up a support group for people who are having some sort of breakdown I have thought that type of comment beneath you. I agree I humbly apologise Takes a brave soul to apologise this way. TY. accepted just as humbly. " | |||
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"Lionel your glass is nearly empty mate. Don't worry up topping it up though Simply pointing out a report by the IMF. Still what would they know? Is this the same IMF who warned of 'dire consequences' that would follow a vote to leave and then backtracked? IMF apologised 5 times in two years for wrongly predicting economic recovery in 5 countries during the last recession. You also have to remember that dealing with Macro Economics isn't the same as dealing with Micro Economics. " | |||
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"I think we all like to challenge and in some cases slide sideways on an argument just for the sheer hell of it, I also think we’re all a bit fed up of this lock down so tempers are short. We’ve had good and bad arguments on here and the divisive nature of politics today means it’s harder to allow your self to agree with the opponents view. What’s wrong with our old scenario where some parts of the left or right we’re good and you weren’t afraid to admit it? Like I’ve said I’ve been mostly a Tory voter then I foolishly believed Blair. I didn’t fall for Boris as too obvious he’s not fit for the job. But it doesn’t mean I can’t sometimes agree with Tory ideas. I don’t believe a word out of this cabinet which is shocking for me. But that doesn’t mean I’m voting labour next time. It means they have to earn our votes whichever side. We should not give our votes based on party loyalty but on performance and what’s good for us all. Our media is our worst enemy and let’s hope this John Neil news thing is real as we definitely need it. " Me to I also diverted to Blair for a time. Your quite right they need to earn votes and give a decent alternative | |||
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"I think we all like to challenge and in some cases slide sideways on an argument just for the sheer hell of it, I also think we’re all a bit fed up of this lock down so tempers are short. We’ve had good and bad arguments on here and the divisive nature of politics today means it’s harder to allow your self to agree with the opponents view. What’s wrong with our old scenario where some parts of the left or right we’re good and you weren’t afraid to admit it? Like I’ve said I’ve been mostly a Tory voter then I foolishly believed Blair. I didn’t fall for Boris as too obvious he’s not fit for the job. But it doesn’t mean I can’t sometimes agree with Tory ideas. I don’t believe a word out of this cabinet which is shocking for me. But that doesn’t mean I’m voting labour next time. It means they have to earn our votes whichever side. We should not give our votes based on party loyalty but on performance and what’s good for us all. Our media is our worst enemy and let’s hope this John Neil news thing is real as we definitely need it. " Personally i have never voted on party lines i look at the manifesto,s see which ones suit me best and vote accordingly. Of course you are never going to agree on everything anyone stands for. | |||
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"Lionel your glass is nearly empty mate. Don't worry up topping it up though Simply pointing out a report by the IMF. Still what would they know?" Look back to what they said in 2010 about our economy and how we would have rising unemployment and falling GDP, they get it wrong more often than not, | |||
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"Lionel your glass is nearly empty mate. Don't worry up topping it up though Simply pointing out a report by the IMF. Still what would they know? Look back to what they said in 2010 about our economy and how we would have rising unemployment and falling GDP, they get it wrong more often than not, " Did they basically say austerity would not produce a boom? | |||
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"Nicely hijacked as usual guys. I think I may be done with these forums Stop being a drama queen There was a financial forecast posted I simply posted another one Then the thread got hijacked. Fuck all to do with me." lionel stop saying hijacked your a scouser I fucking shit meself there lol | |||
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"Lionel your glass is nearly empty mate. Don't worry up topping it up though Simply pointing out a report by the IMF. Still what would they know? Look back to what they said in 2010 about our economy and how we would have rising unemployment and falling GDP, they get it wrong more often than not, Did they basically say austerity would not produce a boom?" No they said we would having rising unemployment, it fell, they said our gdp would fall, it rose. To be fair economic forecasting is pretty much guesswork but they are meant to be experts | |||
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"I think we all like to challenge and in some cases slide sideways on an argument just for the sheer hell of it, I also think we’re all a bit fed up of this lock down so tempers are short. We’ve had good and bad arguments on here and the divisive nature of politics today means it’s harder to allow your self to agree with the opponents view. What’s wrong with our old scenario where some parts of the left or right we’re good and you weren’t afraid to admit it? Like I’ve said I’ve been mostly a Tory voter then I foolishly believed Blair. I didn’t fall for Boris as too obvious he’s not fit for the job. But it doesn’t mean I can’t sometimes agree with Tory ideas. I don’t believe a word out of this cabinet which is shocking for me. But that doesn’t mean I’m voting labour next time. It means they have to earn our votes whichever side. We should not give our votes based on party loyalty but on performance and what’s good for us all. Our media is our worst enemy and let’s hope this John Neil news thing is real as we definitely need it. " jackal mate as always great post | |||
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"Lionel your glass is nearly empty mate. Don't worry up topping it up though Simply pointing out a report by the IMF. Still what would they know? Look back to what they said in 2010 about our economy and how we would have rising unemployment and falling GDP, they get it wrong more often than not, Did they basically say austerity would not produce a boom? No they said we would having rising unemployment, it fell, they said our gdp would fall, it rose. To be fair economic forecasting is pretty much guesswork but they are meant to be experts " I'm no economist but I'm fairly sure the economy overall flatlined during austerity. But like you said it's all guesswork | |||
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"Lionel your glass is nearly empty mate. Don't worry up topping it up though Simply pointing out a report by the IMF. Still what would they know? Look back to what they said in 2010 about our economy and how we would have rising unemployment and falling GDP, they get it wrong more often than not, Did they basically say austerity would not produce a boom? No they said we would having rising unemployment, it fell, they said our gdp would fall, it rose. To be fair economic forecasting is pretty much guesswork but they are meant to be experts I'm no economist but I'm fairly sure the economy overall flatlined during austerity. But like you said it's all guesswork " GDP growth since 2010 to 2019 was over 18 % on a year by year measure so probably 25 % from the starting point and there was 3 million more jobs, hardly flat lining | |||
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"Lionel your glass is nearly empty mate. Don't worry up topping it up though Simply pointing out a report by the IMF. Still what would they know? Look back to what they said in 2010 about our economy and how we would have rising unemployment and falling GDP, they get it wrong more often than not, Did they basically say austerity would not produce a boom? No they said we would having rising unemployment, it fell, they said our gdp would fall, it rose. To be fair economic forecasting is pretty much guesswork but they are meant to be experts I'm no economist but I'm fairly sure the economy overall flatlined during austerity. But like you said it's all guesswork GDP growth since 2010 to 2019 was over 18 % on a year by year measure so probably 25 % from the starting point and there was 3 million more jobs, hardly flat lining " So you would say austerity was a success? | |||
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"Lionel your glass is nearly empty mate. Don't worry up topping it up though Simply pointing out a report by the IMF. Still what would they know? Look back to what they said in 2010 about our economy and how we would have rising unemployment and falling GDP, they get it wrong more often than not, Did they basically say austerity would not produce a boom? No they said we would having rising unemployment, it fell, they said our gdp would fall, it rose. To be fair economic forecasting is pretty much guesswork but they are meant to be experts I'm no economist but I'm fairly sure the economy overall flatlined during austerity. But like you said it's all guesswork GDP growth since 2010 to 2019 was over 18 % on a year by year measure so probably 25 % from the starting point and there was 3 million more jobs, hardly flat lining So you would say austerity was a success?" I expect the three million extra that had a job thought so. I'm not sure austerity is the right word, most was cutting waste from public services, every business and every household can only spend what is has, governments have to try and balance the books, we have borrowed billions this year had the public finances not been in a far better position than when labour got kicked our we wouldnt have found it as easy to borrow. | |||
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"Lionel your glass is nearly empty mate. Don't worry up topping it up though Simply pointing out a report by the IMF. Still what would they know? Look back to what they said in 2010 about our economy and how we would have rising unemployment and falling GDP, they get it wrong more often than not, Did they basically say austerity would not produce a boom? No they said we would having rising unemployment, it fell, they said our gdp would fall, it rose. To be fair economic forecasting is pretty much guesswork but they are meant to be experts I'm no economist but I'm fairly sure the economy overall flatlined during austerity. But like you said it's all guesswork GDP growth since 2010 to 2019 was over 18 % on a year by year measure so probably 25 % from the starting point and there was 3 million more jobs, hardly flat lining So you would say austerity was a success? I expect the three million extra that had a job thought so. I'm not sure austerity is the right word, most was cutting waste from public services, every business and every household can only spend what is has, governments have to try and balance the books, we have borrowed billions this year had the public finances not been in a far better position than when labour got kicked our we wouldnt have found it as easy to borrow." What waste exactly? They have cut the police right down to the bone The NHS is on its arse There was an 8 year pay freeze. Do you know the ones those 2 faced cumts are out clapping for..they cut their wages that much ,some of them.have had to resort to foodbanks. There has been an explosion on foodbanks and homeless. Life expectancy has actually slowed down in parts of the country. Sure start centres,libraries are practically none existent. Mental health services have been slashed Youth clubs are a thing of the past and as a result there has been an explosion in youth crime The probation service was provitised which was another unmitigated disaster. But apart from that austerity was a success. | |||
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"Lionel your glass is nearly empty mate. Don't worry up topping it up though Simply pointing out a report by the IMF. Still what would they know? Is this the same IMF who warned of 'dire consequences' that would follow a vote to leave and then backtracked? " It’s the same IMF that had to financially bail us out in the 1970’s because of what was (at that time) the most incompetent series of Governments that this country had ever seen. Then, in 2019 after witnessing catastrophic Conservative governance by Theresa May, the population of this country decided to elect a known liar with no political gravitas to the highest office in the land. We will get what we deserve from this. | |||
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"Lionel your glass is nearly empty mate. Don't worry up topping it up though Simply pointing out a report by the IMF. Still what would they know? Is this the same IMF who warned of 'dire consequences' that would follow a vote to leave and then backtracked? It’s the same IMF that had to financially bail us out in the 1970’s because of what was (at that time) the most incompetent series of Governments that this country had ever seen. Then, in 2019 after witnessing catastrophic Conservative governance by Theresa May, the population of this country decided to elect a known liar with no political gravitas to the highest office in the land. We will get what we deserve from this." Yep I remember bushy brows Dennis Healy begging for the lian, yet another labour government bankrupting the country | |||
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"Lionel your glass is nearly empty mate. Don't worry up topping it up though Simply pointing out a report by the IMF. Still what would they know? Look back to what they said in 2010 about our economy and how we would have rising unemployment and falling GDP, they get it wrong more often than not, Did they basically say austerity would not produce a boom? No they said we would having rising unemployment, it fell, they said our gdp would fall, it rose. To be fair economic forecasting is pretty much guesswork but they are meant to be experts I'm no economist but I'm fairly sure the economy overall flatlined during austerity. But like you said it's all guesswork GDP growth since 2010 to 2019 was over 18 % on a year by year measure so probably 25 % from the starting point and there was 3 million more jobs, hardly flat lining So you would say austerity was a success? I expect the three million extra that had a job thought so. I'm not sure austerity is the right word, most was cutting waste from public services, every business and every household can only spend what is has, governments have to try and balance the books, we have borrowed billions this year had the public finances not been in a far better position than when labour got kicked our we wouldnt have found it as easy to borrow. What waste exactly? They have cut the police right down to the bone The NHS is on its arse There was an 8 year pay freeze. Do you know the ones those 2 faced cumts are out clapping for..they cut their wages that much ,some of them.have had to resort to foodbanks. There has been an explosion on foodbanks and homeless. Life expectancy has actually slowed down in parts of the country. Sure start centres,libraries are practically none existent. Mental health services have been slashed Youth clubs are a thing of the past and as a result there has been an explosion in youth crime The probation service was provitised which was another unmitigated disaster. But apart from that austerity was a success." Who implements the controls ? The top heavy management, K is nhs, not one manager has gone, intact since she moved in with me in 2004, two more layers have been added,no doubt other services are the same, it's not the money you have but the way you spend it, of course one of the main reason for problems in the NHS is the pensions, I has just taken hers, to get the same lump sum and yearly pension I would need 600,000 pension pot, that is simply unaffordable | |||
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"Lionel your glass is nearly empty mate. Don't worry up topping it up though Simply pointing out a report by the IMF. Still what would they know? Is this the same IMF who warned of 'dire consequences' that would follow a vote to leave and then backtracked? It’s the same IMF that had to financially bail us out in the 1970’s because of what was (at that time) the most incompetent series of Governments that this country had ever seen. Then, in 2019 after witnessing catastrophic Conservative governance by Theresa May, the population of this country decided to elect a known liar with no political gravitas to the highest office in the land. We will get what we deserve from this. Yep I remember bushy brows Dennis Healy begging for the lian, yet another labour government bankrupting the country" Not quite that simple. The seeds of that eruption were planted in the 1950’s, the volcano grew unharnessed through the decadence of the 1960’s and Keynesian ideas in the 1970’s set the eruption in motion. It was an event at least twenty years in the making and whilst the economic lessons may have been learned since then, the wisdom of electing charlatans still seems to a potential problem for the long-term benefit of this country and its citizens. | |||
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"Lionel your glass is nearly empty mate. Don't worry up topping it up though Simply pointing out a report by the IMF. Still what would they know? Look back to what they said in 2010 about our economy and how we would have rising unemployment and falling GDP, they get it wrong more often than not, Did they basically say austerity would not produce a boom? No they said we would having rising unemployment, it fell, they said our gdp would fall, it rose. To be fair economic forecasting is pretty much guesswork but they are meant to be experts I'm no economist but I'm fairly sure the economy overall flatlined during austerity. But like you said it's all guesswork GDP growth since 2010 to 2019 was over 18 % on a year by year measure so probably 25 % from the starting point and there was 3 million more jobs, hardly flat lining So you would say austerity was a success? I expect the three million extra that had a job thought so. I'm not sure austerity is the right word, most was cutting waste from public services, every business and every household can only spend what is has, governments have to try and balance the books, we have borrowed billions this year had the public finances not been in a far better position than when labour got kicked our we wouldnt have found it as easy to borrow." Did we tax the mega rich even a little bit more or at all? Was the pain shared out? | |||
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"Lionel your glass is nearly empty mate. Don't worry up topping it up though Simply pointing out a report by the IMF. Still what would they know? Look back to what they said in 2010 about our economy and how we would have rising unemployment and falling GDP, they get it wrong more often than not, Did they basically say austerity would not produce a boom? No they said we would having rising unemployment, it fell, they said our gdp would fall, it rose. To be fair economic forecasting is pretty much guesswork but they are meant to be experts I'm no economist but I'm fairly sure the economy overall flatlined during austerity. But like you said it's all guesswork GDP growth since 2010 to 2019 was over 18 % on a year by year measure so probably 25 % from the starting point and there was 3 million more jobs, hardly flat lining So you would say austerity was a success? I expect the three million extra that had a job thought so. I'm not sure austerity is the right word, most was cutting waste from public services, every business and every household can only spend what is has, governments have to try and balance the books, we have borrowed billions this year had the public finances not been in a far better position than when labour got kicked our we wouldnt have found it as easy to borrow. What waste exactly? They have cut the police right down to the bone The NHS is on its arse There was an 8 year pay freeze. Do you know the ones those 2 faced cumts are out clapping for..they cut their wages that much ,some of them.have had to resort to foodbanks. There has been an explosion on foodbanks and homeless. Life expectancy has actually slowed down in parts of the country. Sure start centres,libraries are practically none existent. Mental health services have been slashed Youth clubs are a thing of the past and as a result there has been an explosion in youth crime The probation service was provitised which was another unmitigated disaster. But apart from that austerity was a success." Not to mention the huge increase in child poverty | |||
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"Lionel your glass is nearly empty mate. Don't worry up topping it up though Simply pointing out a report by the IMF. Still what would they know? Is this the same IMF who warned of 'dire consequences' that would follow a vote to leave and then backtracked? It’s the same IMF that had to financially bail us out in the 1970’s because of what was (at that time) the most incompetent series of Governments that this country had ever seen. Then, in 2019 after witnessing catastrophic Conservative governance by Theresa May, the population of this country decided to elect a known liar with no political gravitas to the highest office in the land. We will get what we deserve from this. Yep I remember bushy brows Dennis Healy begging for the lian, yet another labour government bankrupting the country" Can you explain how labour caused the world wide financial crash? | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/bank-of-england-sees-economy-recovering-rapidly-as-vaccines-rolled-out-12208428" But not a good as pre 2016. It will be shit. | |||
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"Lionel your glass is nearly empty mate. Don't worry up topping it up though Simply pointing out a report by the IMF. Still what would they know? Look back to what they said in 2010 about our economy and how we would have rising unemployment and falling GDP, they get it wrong more often than not, Did they basically say austerity would not produce a boom? No they said we would having rising unemployment, it fell, they said our gdp would fall, it rose. To be fair economic forecasting is pretty much guesswork but they are meant to be experts I'm no economist but I'm fairly sure the economy overall flatlined during austerity. But like you said it's all guesswork GDP growth since 2010 to 2019 was over 18 % on a year by year measure so probably 25 % from the starting point and there was 3 million more jobs, hardly flat lining So you would say austerity was a success? I expect the three million extra that had a job thought so. I'm not sure austerity is the right word, most was cutting waste from public services, every business and every household can only spend what is has, governments have to try and balance the books, we have borrowed billions this year had the public finances not been in a far better position than when labour got kicked our we wouldnt have found it as easy to borrow. Did we tax the mega rich even a little bit more or at all? Was the pain shared out? " We were all on it together The big society etc Look at the high street and see how many sure start places, libraries, youth clubs etc are left. Austerity is one of the most devestating policies that's ever been inflicted. | |||
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"I think we all like to challenge and in some cases slide sideways on an argument just for the sheer hell of it, I also think we’re all a bit fed up of this lock down so tempers are short. We’ve had good and bad arguments on here and the divisive nature of politics today means it’s harder to allow your self to agree with the opponents view. What’s wrong with our old scenario where some parts of the left or right we’re good and you weren’t afraid to admit it? Like I’ve said I’ve been mostly a Tory voter then I foolishly believed Blair. I didn’t fall for Boris as too obvious he’s not fit for the job. But it doesn’t mean I can’t sometimes agree with Tory ideas. I don’t believe a word out of this cabinet which is shocking for me. But that doesn’t mean I’m voting labour next time. It means they have to earn our votes whichever side. We should not give our votes based on party loyalty but on performance and what’s good for us all. Our media is our worst enemy and let’s hope this John Neil news thing is real as we definitely need it. jackal mate as always great post " | |||
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