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"Import costs are not new and people should have been well aware of them in advance of this" Yes I think same too  | |||
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"Most people have never realised that there has always been import duty on anything bought from abroad especially outside the EU. The only difference was the U.K. was paying up front in the form of the money paid to the eu for the U.K. to be a member. Companies who had to buy from outside the EU always had to pay tariffs on non EU goods " So it's not a Brexit but a worldwide import cost | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 " You don't have to buy European goods, other countries sell coats, or support your local charity shops and help save the planet, or don't lol  | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 You don't have to buy European goods, other countries sell coats, or support your local charity shops and help save the planet, or don't lol "Exactly this but from another country where there is no tariff on what you want to buy. Whilst in the EU there was a company who got solar panels from China but because China was outside the EU he was paying up to 40% import duty because the EU rules now he can buy much cheaper from the same source at a much lower tarrif | |||
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"Most people have never realised that there has always been import duty on anything bought from abroad especially outside the EU. The only difference was the U.K. was paying up front in the form of the money paid to the eu for the U.K. to be a member. Companies who had to buy from outside the EU always had to pay tariffs on non EU goods " The op was around EU purchases not world costs. What duty and vat did we pay for imports from EU ? Have you costed this 20% increase regarding VAT and customs costs added on top against the cost of EU membership Bet I can tell you which will be cheaper for the individual.  | |||
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"DSV one of the biggest transport companies in the world so very experienced in customs have just today added 25% to their costs for exporting form the U.K. Must be an issue somewhere for such an enormous company to put prices up so much. Maybe they are wrong and Boris is right! Seamless trade eh. LKW one of the biggest trailer operators in Europe are not taking any non contracted export loads back due to the delays. Quicker and cheaper to go empty which is just a ridiculous reflection on our utter madness with all this. . It will be interesting when customs start checking inbound loads . They may then say fuck you GB and not bother coming here at all. . Another of our trucking suppliers has told 250 of his customers they are no longer working for them on exports as it’s now too costly. Only contracted business like ours is still being accepted and only on certain routes. Imports are being refused. Hauliers that we are managing to keep are increasing prices on top of customs costs.All this is going to push up import prices due to supply and demand. Interesting how this company in the link will be paying some Dutch tax next year like us . https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-55723672 But hey what do I know ! " What's all this about? The OP was about the cost of individuals importing goods, not businesses. If businesses weren't aware of any of this then they seriously need to look towards their management and work out whether their fit to continue in their current positions. Anyway, import costs have always existed. If you don't like it then buy local. | |||
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"Sounds like good news for UK retailers to me. Just stick to buying stuff in the UK." Hang on I thought we were going to trade with the world now? | |||
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"DSV one of the biggest transport companies in the world so very experienced in customs have just today added 25% to their costs for exporting form the U.K. Must be an issue somewhere for such an enormous company to put prices up so much. Maybe they are wrong and Boris is right! Seamless trade eh. LKW one of the biggest trailer operators in Europe are not taking any non contracted export loads back due to the delays. Quicker and cheaper to go empty which is just a ridiculous reflection on our utter madness with all this. . It will be interesting when customs start checking inbound loads . They may then say fuck you GB and not bother coming here at all. . Another of our trucking suppliers has told 250 of his customers they are no longer working for them on exports as it’s now too costly. Only contracted business like ours is still being accepted and only on certain routes. Imports are being refused. Hauliers that we are managing to keep are increasing prices on top of customs costs.All this is going to push up import prices due to supply and demand. Interesting how this company in the link will be paying some Dutch tax next year like us . https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-55723672 But hey what do I know ! What's all this about? The OP was about the cost of individuals importing goods, not businesses. If businesses weren't aware of any of this then they seriously need to look towards their management and work out whether their fit to continue in their current positions. Anyway, import costs have always existed. If you don't like it then buy local." Imports costs what import costs from goods supplied from the EU? Please explain your claim? The post was about added costs which relate to costs for individual buyers was it not?? . 95% of stuff goes by road so transport costs going up adds to prices. Can you work that out? The link to the difficulty of a company exporting small sales and therefore moving to register in the EU also adds to the whole scenario of business incurring extra costs and the U.K. losing out due to registration being made inside the EU. Anyway about those costs you mentioned please go ahead I’m all ears!! | |||
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"DSV one of the biggest transport companies in the world so very experienced in customs have just today added 25% to their costs for exporting form the U.K. Must be an issue somewhere for such an enormous company to put prices up so much. Maybe they are wrong and Boris is right! Seamless trade eh. LKW one of the biggest trailer operators in Europe are not taking any non contracted export loads back due to the delays. Quicker and cheaper to go empty which is just a ridiculous reflection on our utter madness with all this. . It will be interesting when customs start checking inbound loads . They may then say fuck you GB and not bother coming here at all. . Another of our trucking suppliers has told 250 of his customers they are no longer working for them on exports as it’s now too costly. Only contracted business like ours is still being accepted and only on certain routes. Imports are being refused. Hauliers that we are managing to keep are increasing prices on top of customs costs.All this is going to push up import prices due to supply and demand. Interesting how this company in the link will be paying some Dutch tax next year like us . https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-55723672 But hey what do I know ! What's all this about? The OP was about the cost of individuals importing goods, not businesses. If businesses weren't aware of any of this then they seriously need to look towards their management and work out whether their fit to continue in their current positions. Anyway, import costs have always existed. If you don't like it then buy local. Imports costs what import costs from goods supplied from the EU? Please explain your claim? The post was about added costs which relate to costs for individual buyers was it not?? . 95% of stuff goes by road so transport costs going up adds to prices. Can you work that out? The link to the difficulty of a company exporting small sales and therefore moving to register in the EU also adds to the whole scenario of business incurring extra costs and the U.K. losing out due to registration being made inside the EU. Anyway about those costs you mentioned please go ahead I’m all ears!! " I didn't state we paid import costs on EU goods. I stated import costs have always existed. The consumer never paid them directly because it was 'free' as part of our membership. However, my point stands. If you don't like it, shop local. | |||
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"So to put it simply..now we have left...if you buy something from europe,its more expensive?" Yes, in simple terms. | |||
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"So to put it simply..now we have left...if you buy something from europe,its more expensive? Yes, in simple terms." Cool Something else they should have put on that bus. | |||
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"DSV one of the biggest transport companies in the world so very experienced in customs have just today added 25% to their costs for exporting form the U.K. Must be an issue somewhere for such an enormous company to put prices up so much. Maybe they are wrong and Boris is right! Seamless trade eh. LKW one of the biggest trailer operators in Europe are not taking any non contracted export loads back due to the delays. Quicker and cheaper to go empty which is just a ridiculous reflection on our utter madness with all this. . It will be interesting when customs start checking inbound loads . They may then say fuck you GB and not bother coming here at all. . Another of our trucking suppliers has told 250 of his customers they are no longer working for them on exports as it’s now too costly. Only contracted business like ours is still being accepted and only on certain routes. Imports are being refused. Hauliers that we are managing to keep are increasing prices on top of customs costs.All this is going to push up import prices due to supply and demand. Interesting how this company in the link will be paying some Dutch tax next year like us . https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-55723672 But hey what do I know ! What's all this about? The OP was about the cost of individuals importing goods, not businesses. If businesses weren't aware of any of this then they seriously need to look towards their management and work out whether their fit to continue in their current positions. Anyway, import costs have always existed. If you don't like it then buy local. Imports costs what import costs from goods supplied from the EU? Please explain your claim? The post was about added costs which relate to costs for individual buyers was it not?? . 95% of stuff goes by road so transport costs going up adds to prices. Can you work that out? The link to the difficulty of a company exporting small sales and therefore moving to register in the EU also adds to the whole scenario of business incurring extra costs and the U.K. losing out due to registration being made inside the EU. Anyway about those costs you mentioned please go ahead I’m all ears!! I didn't state we paid import costs on EU goods. I stated import costs have always existed. The consumer never paid them directly because it was 'free' as part of our membership. However, my point stands. If you don't like it, shop local." I’ve just done a fag packet calculation allowing for 65% of trade imports being costed. It calculates if we have absolutely no other benefit of the EU such as free movement etc etc etc. And also no account of free access to sell our goods The net is around 3% on all goods. We now have 20% Vat and customs costs. That some comparison you saying hasn’t changed, I’m being very generous with that 3% . I could zero it out quickly with financial services. Given we import 50% of our food we can rely on seasonal veg and lots of potatoes. So corned beef and we will wear oh yes we import 90% of our clothes so probably sack cloth. Hope she doesn’t want to buy and local produced champagne in France or maybe a small producers Belgium pate near Brussels as she won’t get that local. Maybe she can smuggle it in. Buy local to support your local shops against supermarkets is a fine slogan. Buy local against other countries produced goods is just a fantasy. . | |||
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"Import costs are not new and people should have been well aware of them in advance of this" Except that over and over and over again through the last five years remainers have kept saying that there would be increases in costs, and over and over and over the brexiters, and boris johnson in particular, have stated that there would be no increase, that in fact prices would go down. Less than a year ago, boris johnson personally assured that there would be frictionless trade, that there would be no customs between england and northern ireland, that the scottish fishermen would be better off, that the farmers would have no problems. The people of the united kingdom were told many many times that catagorically it would be a great deal, it would be a better deal than staying in the common market, that any suggestion of extra costs was a lie. So forgive me if i say that when ordinary people are surprised at import duties and price rises, they should be more than surprised, they should be outraged. Because they were catagorically told there would be no duties, there would be no price rises, there would be no job losses, there would be no factory closures, there would be no transfer of financial institutions to the EU. The people were lied to, it is now clear they were lied to, it is proven that the brexit campaign was a lie, it is proven that the prime minister and all his cabinet are liars. | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 " The Country was promised that food, clothing and footwear would be cheaper if we left the European Union. The biggest loud gob spouting this over and over was Jacob R Mogg amongst others. He and the rest of the leave campaignerswwouldn't have lied, would they  | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 " It was good to see she sent them back buy british | |||
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"Sounds like good news for UK retailers to me. Just stick to buying stuff in the UK. Hang on I thought we were going to trade with the world now?" One of the main benefits of Brexit, apparently  | |||
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"Sounds like good news for UK retailers to me. Just stick to buying stuff in the UK. Hang on I thought we were going to trade with the world now? One of the main benefits of Brexit, apparently "Its seems its started i was reading today about a company that imports dried fruit and lemons from Spain and since brexit has been having trouble with supplies so is now buying from egypt. | |||
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"Import costs are not new and people should have been well aware of them in advance of this Except that over and over and over again through the last five years remainers have kept saying that there would be increases in costs, and over and over and over the brexiters, and boris johnson in particular, have stated that there would be no increase, that in fact prices would go down. Less than a year ago, boris johnson personally assured that there would be frictionless trade, that there would be no customs between england and northern ireland, that the scottish fishermen would be better off, that the farmers would have no problems. The people of the united kingdom were told many many times that catagorically it would be a great deal, it would be a better deal than staying in the common market, that any suggestion of extra costs was a lie. So forgive me if i say that when ordinary people are surprised at import duties and price rises, they should be more than surprised, they should be outraged. Because they were catagorically told there would be no duties, there would be no price rises, there would be no job losses, there would be no factory closures, there would be no transfer of financial institutions to the EU. The people were lied to, it is now clear they were lied to, it is proven that the brexit campaign was a lie, it is proven that the prime minister and all his cabinet are liars." Tbh if you believe a word out of that clowns mouth,I do not have a degree of sympathy. The British public voted in a man who wouldnt know the truth if it got into bed with him. The fact that he has been sacked from 2 previous jobs lying,should have been a warning. I'm assuming when Reece mogg said we wouldnt see the benefits for 50 years, no one asked him..well why did you not say that before you smug Chinless obnoxious inbred twat? | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 The Country was promised that food, clothing and footwear would be cheaper if we left the European Union. The biggest loud gob spouting this over and over was Jacob R Mogg amongst others. He and the rest of the leave campaignerswwouldn't have lied, would they "Reece Mogg in 2019 stated on LBC it would be wrong to have a second referendum now people have more details as they would vote remain. That sums him up in a nutshell . Fuck you poor peasants I’m in for a nice little earner here. https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/rees-mogg-admits-if-public-had-informed-decision-now-second-referendum-would-overturn-brexit-vote/02/09/ | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 The Country was promised that food, clothing and footwear would be cheaper if we left the European Union. The biggest loud gob spouting this over and over was Jacob R Mogg amongst others. He and the rest of the leave campaignerswwouldn't have lied, would they
Reece Mogg in 2019 stated on LBC it would be wrong to have a second referendum now people have more details as they would vote remain. That sums him up in a nutshell . Fuck you poor peasants I’m in for a nice little earner here.
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/rees-mogg-admits-if-public-had-informed-decision-now-second-referendum-would-overturn-brexit-vote/02/09/
"Funny how the last election was really about brexit and get brexit done annihilated the opposition and as for the definitly remain mob they have been sent into oblivion .  | |||
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"Sounds like good news for UK retailers to me. Just stick to buying stuff in the UK. Hang on I thought we were going to trade with the world now? One of the main benefits of Brexit, apparently Its seems its started i was reading today about a company that imports dried fruit and lemons from Spain and since brexit has been having trouble with supplies so is now buying from egypt. "So is the dealer saving money? Or just avoiding red tape and delays due to Brexit which we were promised wouldn’t happen? Anyway you said my report on delays I’d made up so what are these delays? Must be a road traffic accident as surely not Brexit eh! | |||
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"It seems some people have a problem in supporting UK retailers.!" UK retailers have no bearing on this whatsoever. The fact is that everybody was catagorically promised that we would be able to buy things cheaper, and that there would be no added costs to getting goods from Europe. In any case, where the hell do you think UK retailers get their stock from? Pretty well every single item that you buy in any shop contains components or ingredients from on the continent, or it's manufacturing involves use of machines from Europe, or has some other EU connection. Within every process there is now an increase in costs, every UK retailer will have to put up their prices. There is no possible scenario where making international trade harder allows costs to the UK public to be unchanged. So use a EU retailer, use a UK retailer, it doesn't matter. The prices are going up. | |||
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"Sounds like good news for UK retailers to me. Just stick to buying stuff in the UK. Hang on I thought we were going to trade with the world now? One of the main benefits of Brexit, apparently Its seems its started i was reading today about a company that imports dried fruit and lemons from Spain and since brexit has been having trouble with supplies so is now buying from egypt.
So is the dealer saving money? Or just avoiding red tape and delays due to Brexit which we were promised wouldn’t happen? Anyway you said my report on delays I’d made up so what are these delays? Must be a road traffic accident as surely not Brexit eh! "It didnt say about cost he said it was an inconvience now because the goods take longer but once the supply chain is up and running it will be ok. This will happen more and more business will always find a way as you must know. | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 The Country was promised that food, clothing and footwear would be cheaper if we left the European Union. The biggest loud gob spouting this over and over was Jacob R Mogg amongst others. He and the rest of the leave campaignerswwouldn't have lied, would they
Reece Mogg in 2019 stated on LBC it would be wrong to have a second referendum now people have more details as they would vote remain. That sums him up in a nutshell . Fuck you poor peasants I’m in for a nice little earner here.
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/rees-mogg-admits-if-public-had-informed-decision-now-second-referendum-would-overturn-brexit-vote/02/09/
Funny how the last election was really about brexit and get brexit done annihilated the opposition and as for the definitly remain mob they have been sent into oblivion . "But your pro Brexit leader Mogg didn’t want to give anyone a choice didn’t? He was openly admitting the result would change. And let’s be honest there wasn’t much choice as a prime minister. So very unfortunate for the U.K. . In any normal level of scrutiny Boris would have been thrown out before he put a foot into politics whichever side of the fence you sit. The alternatives have been suffocated by the press. Business has no choice but to deal with the shit show on a daily basis. The fallout in jobs has to happen at some point in the future as the costs are increasing in our trades. I’m sure for a fact we’re not alone. I mentioned before Christmas about companies who can’t be arsed with the hassle in the increase in red tape. That’s starting to show in companies moving away from U.K. suppliers. Costa if you have ever dealt with other countries in a business way tell me how all this is better for business to trade with the EU our biggest export market? As an exporter all I'm seeing is costs going up and up. Don’t respond with world trade deals we’ve always been able to sell around the world and nothing in our way . We do that already in high value goods. It’s easier to trade with a market 22 miles away. All the new so called global deals are replicating the EU deals so no additional benefit. | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 The Country was promised that food, clothing and footwear would be cheaper if we left the European Union. The biggest loud gob spouting this over and over was Jacob R Mogg amongst others. He and the rest of the leave campaignerswwouldn't have lied, would they
Reece Mogg in 2019 stated on LBC it would be wrong to have a second referendum now people have more details as they would vote remain. That sums him up in a nutshell . Fuck you poor peasants I’m in for a nice little earner here.
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/rees-mogg-admits-if-public-had-informed-decision-now-second-referendum-would-overturn-brexit-vote/02/09/
Funny how the last election was really about brexit and get brexit done annihilated the opposition and as for the definitly remain mob they have been sent into oblivion .
But your pro Brexit leader Mogg didn’t want to give anyone a choice didn’t? He was openly admitting the result would change. And let’s be honest there wasn’t much choice as a prime minister. So very unfortunate for the U.K. . In any normal level of scrutiny Boris would have been thrown out before he put a foot into politics whichever side of the fence you sit. The alternatives have been suffocated by the press.
Business has no choice but to deal with the shit show on a daily basis. The fallout in jobs has to happen at some point in the future as the costs are increasing in our trades. I’m sure for a fact we’re not alone.
I mentioned before Christmas about companies who can’t be arsed with the hassle in the increase in red tape. That’s starting to show in companies moving away from U.K. suppliers.
Costa if you have ever dealt with other countries in a business way tell me how all this is better for business to trade with the EU our biggest export market? As an exporter all I'm seeing is costs going up and up. Don’t respond with world trade deals we’ve always been able to sell around the world and nothing in our way . We do that already in high value goods. It’s easier to trade with a market 22 miles away. All the new so called global deals are replicating the EU deals so no additional benefit.
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 The Country was promised that food, clothing and footwear would be cheaper if we left the European Union. The biggest loud gob spouting this over and over was Jacob R Mogg amongst others. He and the rest of the leave campaignerswwouldn't have lied, would they
Reece Mogg in 2019 stated on LBC it would be wrong to have a second referendum now people have more details as they would vote remain. That sums him up in a nutshell . Fuck you poor peasants I’m in for a nice little earner here.
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/rees-mogg-admits-if-public-had-informed-decision-now-second-referendum-would-overturn-brexit-vote/02/09/
Funny how the last election was really about brexit and get brexit done annihilated the opposition and as for the definitly remain mob they have been sent into oblivion . "And do we have the promised land? Have goods become cheaper? Are the British public better off? Is there an extra 350 million available every single week, whether to be used for the NHS or for some other purpose? So why did people vote for brexit? Because they were lied to. They were lied to by farage, by may, by johnson, by rees mogg, by the bbc, by the daily telegraph, by the tabloid media, by many others. They were lied to over and over again. If the election was today, if a new referendum was today, the brexit forces would be utterly crushed. There would not be one single lorry driver, fisherman, farmer, small trader, hospital worker, person buying from the eu, person selling to the eu, northern ireland citizen, scottish citizen - the list goes on - who would now vote to make their life worse. | |||
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"Sounds like good news for UK retailers to me. Just stick to buying stuff in the UK. Hang on I thought we were going to trade with the world now? One of the main benefits of Brexit, apparently Its seems its started i was reading today about a company that imports dried fruit and lemons from Spain and since brexit has been having trouble with supplies so is now buying from egypt.
So is the dealer saving money? Or just avoiding red tape and delays due to Brexit which we were promised wouldn’t happen? Anyway you said my report on delays I’d made up so what are these delays? Must be a road traffic accident as surely not Brexit eh! It didnt say about cost he said it was an inconvience now because the goods take longer but once the supply chain is up and running it will be ok.
This will happen more and more business will always find a way as you must know. "Indeed business will find ways as we have done but at a cost! You don’t get free customs clearance even without adding transport increases which is a 100% fact! Undeniable fact. So his costs will go up and our goods we want to buy like his dried fruits will cost more. Cause.?, Brexit - Effect? cost increases. Brexit isn’t really winning is it! In your own words “this will be happening more and more”. Sadly so very true! (my words) | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 The Country was promised that food, clothing and footwear would be cheaper if we left the European Union. The biggest loud gob spouting this over and over was Jacob R Mogg amongst others. He and the rest of the leave campaignerswwouldn't have lied, would they
Reece Mogg in 2019 stated on LBC it would be wrong to have a second referendum now people have more details as they would vote remain. That sums him up in a nutshell . Fuck you poor peasants I’m in for a nice little earner here.
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/rees-mogg-admits-if-public-had-informed-decision-now-second-referendum-would-overturn-brexit-vote/02/09/
Funny how the last election was really about brexit and get brexit done annihilated the opposition and as for the definitly remain mob they have been sent into oblivion .
And do we have the promised land? Have goods become cheaper? Are the British public better off? Is there an extra 350 million available every single week, whether to be used for the NHS or for some other purpose?
So why did people vote for brexit? Because they were lied to. They were lied to by farage, by may, by johnson, by rees mogg, by the bbc, by the daily telegraph, by the tabloid media, by many others. They were lied to over and over again.
If the election was today, if a new referendum was today, the brexit forces would be utterly crushed. There would not be one single lorry driver, fisherman, farmer, small trader, hospital worker, person buying from the eu, person selling to the eu, northern ireland citizen, scottish citizen - the list goes on - who would now vote to make their life worse."stop talking crap all will be fineBrexit is great for tis country you will learn one day | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 The Country was promised that food, clothing and footwear would be cheaper if we left the European Union. The biggest loud gob spouting this over and over was Jacob R Mogg amongst others. He and the rest of the leave campaignerswwouldn't have lied, would they
Reece Mogg in 2019 stated on LBC it would be wrong to have a second referendum now people have more details as they would vote remain. That sums him up in a nutshell . Fuck you poor peasants I’m in for a nice little earner here.
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/rees-mogg-admits-if-public-had-informed-decision-now-second-referendum-would-overturn-brexit-vote/02/09/
Funny how the last election was really about brexit and get brexit done annihilated the opposition and as for the definitly remain mob they have been sent into oblivion .
And do we have the promised land? Have goods become cheaper? Are the British public better off? Is there an extra 350 million available every single week, whether to be used for the NHS or for some other purpose?
So why did people vote for brexit? Because they were lied to. They were lied to by farage, by may, by johnson, by rees mogg, by the bbc, by the daily telegraph, by the tabloid media, by many others. They were lied to over and over again.
If the election was today, if a new referendum was today, the brexit forces would be utterly crushed. There would not be one single lorry driver, fisherman, farmer, small trader, hospital worker, person buying from the eu, person selling to the eu, northern ireland citizen, scottish citizen - the list goes on - who would now vote to make their life worse."Oh dear | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 The Country was promised that food, clothing and footwear would be cheaper if we left the European Union. The biggest loud gob spouting this over and over was Jacob R Mogg amongst others. He and the rest of the leave campaignerswwouldn't have lied, would they
Reece Mogg in 2019 stated on LBC it would be wrong to have a second referendum now people have more details as they would vote remain. That sums him up in a nutshell . Fuck you poor peasants I’m in for a nice little earner here.
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/rees-mogg-admits-if-public-had-informed-decision-now-second-referendum-would-overturn-brexit-vote/02/09/
Funny how the last election was really about brexit and get brexit done annihilated the opposition and as for the definitly remain mob they have been sent into oblivion .
But your pro Brexit leader Mogg didn’t want to give anyone a choice didn’t? He was openly admitting the result would change. And let’s be honest there wasn’t much choice as a prime minister. So very unfortunate for the U.K. . In any normal level of scrutiny Boris would have been thrown out before he put a foot into politics whichever side of the fence you sit. The alternatives have been suffocated by the press.
Business has no choice but to deal with the shit show on a daily basis. The fallout in jobs has to happen at some point in the future as the costs are increasing in our trades. I’m sure for a fact we’re not alone.
I mentioned before Christmas about companies who can’t be arsed with the hassle in the increase in red tape. That’s starting to show in companies moving away from U.K. suppliers.
Costa if you have ever dealt with other countries in a business way tell me how all this is better for business to trade with the EU our biggest export market? As an exporter all I'm seeing is costs going up and up. Don’t respond with world trade deals we’ve always been able to sell around the world and nothing in our way . We do that already in high value goods. It’s easier to trade with a market 22 miles away. All the new so called global deals are replicating the EU deals so no additional benefit.
The EU isn't our biggest export market "Single country is USA by value. Single economic FREE TRADE area by value the EU by a country mile at 44% so don’t even bother with this nonsense. | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 The Country was promised that food, clothing and footwear would be cheaper if we left the European Union. The biggest loud gob spouting this over and over was Jacob R Mogg amongst others. He and the rest of the leave campaignerswwouldn't have lied, would they
Reece Mogg in 2019 stated on LBC it would be wrong to have a second referendum now people have more details as they would vote remain. That sums him up in a nutshell . Fuck you poor peasants I’m in for a nice little earner here.
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/rees-mogg-admits-if-public-had-informed-decision-now-second-referendum-would-overturn-brexit-vote/02/09/
Funny how the last election was really about brexit and get brexit done annihilated the opposition and as for the definitly remain mob they have been sent into oblivion .
And do we have the promised land? Have goods become cheaper? Are the British public better off? Is there an extra 350 million available every single week, whether to be used for the NHS or for some other purpose?
So why did people vote for brexit? Because they were lied to. They were lied to by farage, by may, by johnson, by rees mogg, by the bbc, by the daily telegraph, by the tabloid media, by many others. They were lied to over and over again.
If the election was today, if a new referendum was today, the brexit forces would be utterly crushed. There would not be one single lorry driver, fisherman, farmer, small trader, hospital worker, person buying from the eu, person selling to the eu, northern ireland citizen, scottish citizen - the list goes on - who would now vote to make their life worse.stop talking crap all will be fineBrexit is great for tis country you will learn one day"You know sometimes people suspect someone may be stupid. I always think it’s wise to stay quiet otherwise you risk confirming their suspicions. | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 The Country was promised that food, clothing and footwear would be cheaper if we left the European Union. The biggest loud gob spouting this over and over was Jacob R Mogg amongst others. He and the rest of the leave campaignerswwouldn't have lied, would they
Reece Mogg in 2019 stated on LBC it would be wrong to have a second referendum now people have more details as they would vote remain. That sums him up in a nutshell . Fuck you poor peasants I’m in for a nice little earner here.
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/rees-mogg-admits-if-public-had-informed-decision-now-second-referendum-would-overturn-brexit-vote/02/09/
Funny how the last election was really about brexit and get brexit done annihilated the opposition and as for the definitly remain mob they have been sent into oblivion .
But your pro Brexit leader Mogg didn’t want to give anyone a choice didn’t? He was openly admitting the result would change. And let’s be honest there wasn’t much choice as a prime minister. So very unfortunate for the U.K. . In any normal level of scrutiny Boris would have been thrown out before he put a foot into politics whichever side of the fence you sit. The alternatives have been suffocated by the press.
Business has no choice but to deal with the shit show on a daily basis. The fallout in jobs has to happen at some point in the future as the costs are increasing in our trades. I’m sure for a fact we’re not alone.
I mentioned before Christmas about companies who can’t be arsed with the hassle in the increase in red tape. That’s starting to show in companies moving away from U.K. suppliers.
Costa if you have ever dealt with other countries in a business way tell me how all this is better for business to trade with the EU our biggest export market? As an exporter all I'm seeing is costs going up and up. Don’t respond with world trade deals we’ve always been able to sell around the world and nothing in our way . We do that already in high value goods. It’s easier to trade with a market 22 miles away. All the new so called global deals are replicating the EU deals so no additional benefit.
The EU isn't our biggest export market
Single country is USA by value.
Single economic FREE TRADE area by value the EU by a country mile at 44% so don’t even bother with this nonsense. "But that's not what you said. Our biggest export market is the rest of the world outside the EU | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 The Country was promised that food, clothing and footwear would be cheaper if we left the European Union. The biggest loud gob spouting this over and over was Jacob R Mogg amongst others. He and the rest of the leave campaignerswwouldn't have lied, would they
Reece Mogg in 2019 stated on LBC it would be wrong to have a second referendum now people have more details as they would vote remain. That sums him up in a nutshell . Fuck you poor peasants I’m in for a nice little earner here.
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/rees-mogg-admits-if-public-had-informed-decision-now-second-referendum-would-overturn-brexit-vote/02/09/
Funny how the last election was really about brexit and get brexit done annihilated the opposition and as for the definitly remain mob they have been sent into oblivion .
But your pro Brexit leader Mogg didn’t want to give anyone a choice didn’t? He was openly admitting the result would change. And let’s be honest there wasn’t much choice as a prime minister. So very unfortunate for the U.K. . In any normal level of scrutiny Boris would have been thrown out before he put a foot into politics whichever side of the fence you sit. The alternatives have been suffocated by the press.
Business has no choice but to deal with the shit show on a daily basis. The fallout in jobs has to happen at some point in the future as the costs are increasing in our trades. I’m sure for a fact we’re not alone.
I mentioned before Christmas about companies who can’t be arsed with the hassle in the increase in red tape. That’s starting to show in companies moving away from U.K. suppliers.
Costa if you have ever dealt with other countries in a business way tell me how all this is better for business to trade with the EU our biggest export market? As an exporter all I'm seeing is costs going up and up. Don’t respond with world trade deals we’ve always been able to sell around the world and nothing in our way . We do that already in high value goods. It’s easier to trade with a market 22 miles away. All the new so called global deals are replicating the EU deals so no additional benefit.
The EU isn't our biggest export market
Single country is USA by value.
Single economic FREE TRADE area by value the EU by a country mile at 44% so don’t even bother with this nonsense.
But that's not what you said. Our biggest export market is the rest of the world outside the EU "The world is not a single market it’s multiple markets with multiple agreements Is this the best discussion you’ve got? The EU is our single biggest market . | |||
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"It will be the easiest trade deal on history,the eu need us more than we need them and they will be begging us to stay. We will take back control,not to be subject to eu corruption ,we will trade with the world and it will be a total success. It will take 3 years of wrangling and we will come close to crashing out without a deal. Jobs will go,shelves will be empty,there will be delays, you will need to take out a mortgage to get your weekly shop and you wont see the benefits for 50 years,whilst we line our pockets to the tune of £50b." You what mate?? This just another of your anti Brexit rambles? | |||
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"It will be the easiest trade deal on history,the eu need us more than we need them and they will be begging us to stay. We will take back control,not to be subject to eu corruption ,we will trade with the world and it will be a total success. It will take 3 years of wrangling and we will come close to crashing out without a deal. Jobs will go,shelves will be empty,there will be delays, you will need to take out a mortgage to get your weekly shop and you wont see the benefits for 50 years,whilst we line our pockets to the tune of £50b." Get a grip. | |||
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"It will be the easiest trade deal on history,the eu need us more than we need them and they will be begging us to stay. We will take back control,not to be subject to eu corruption ,we will trade with the world and it will be a total success. It will take 3 years of wrangling and we will come close to crashing out without a deal. Jobs will go,shelves will be empty,there will be delays, you will need to take out a mortgage to get your weekly shop and you wont see the benefits for 50 years,whilst we line our pockets to the tune of £50b. You what mate?? This just another of your anti Brexit rambles? "Before we left..did they admit we wouldn't see the benefits for 50 years? | |||
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"It will be the easiest trade deal on history,the eu need us more than we need them and they will be begging us to stay. We will take back control,not to be subject to eu corruption ,we will trade with the world and it will be a total success. It will take 3 years of wrangling and we will come close to crashing out without a deal. Jobs will go,shelves will be empty,there will be delays, you will need to take out a mortgage to get your weekly shop and you wont see the benefits for 50 years,whilst we line our pockets to the tune of £50b. You what mate?? This just another of your anti Brexit rambles?
Before we left..did they admit we wouldn't see the benefits for 50 years?"No one cares Lionel. You added nothing to the thread but a ramble. | |||
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"It will be the easiest trade deal on history,the eu need us more than we need them and they will be begging us to stay. We will take back control,not to be subject to eu corruption ,we will trade with the world and it will be a total success. It will take 3 years of wrangling and we will come close to crashing out without a deal. Jobs will go,shelves will be empty,there will be delays, you will need to take out a mortgage to get your weekly shop and you wont see the benefits for 50 years,whilst we line our pockets to the tune of £50b. You what mate?? This just another of your anti Brexit rambles?
Before we left..did they admit we wouldn't see the benefits for 50 years?
No one cares Lionel.
You added nothing to the thread but a ramble. "I just love it when simple question cant be answered. | |||
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"It will be the easiest trade deal on history,the eu need us more than we need them and they will be begging us to stay. We will take back control,not to be subject to eu corruption ,we will trade with the world and it will be a total success. It will take 3 years of wrangling and we will come close to crashing out without a deal. Jobs will go,shelves will be empty,there will be delays, you will need to take out a mortgage to get your weekly shop and you wont see the benefits for 50 years,whilst we line our pockets to the tune of £50b. You what mate?? This just another of your anti Brexit rambles?
Before we left..did they admit we wouldn't see the benefits for 50 years?"It possibly wouldn't have made a very catchy slogan on the bus: - Vote Brexit! - You will be worse off! - Your children will be worse off! - Your grandchildren will be worse off! - Your great-grandchildren might break even! - But it's going to be worth it by 2070! | |||
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"It will be the easiest trade deal on history,the eu need us more than we need them and they will be begging us to stay. We will take back control,not to be subject to eu corruption ,we will trade with the world and it will be a total success. It will take 3 years of wrangling and we will come close to crashing out without a deal. Jobs will go,shelves will be empty,there will be delays, you will need to take out a mortgage to get your weekly shop and you wont see the benefits for 50 years,whilst we line our pockets to the tune of £50b. You what mate?? This just another of your anti Brexit rambles?
Before we left..did they admit we wouldn't see the benefits for 50 years?
It possibly wouldn't have made a very catchy slogan on the bus:
- Vote Brexit!
- You will be worse off!
- Your children will be worse off!
- Your grandchildren will be worse off!
- Your great-grandchildren might break even!
- But it's going to be worth it by 2070!"Yeah but no one cares apparently | |||
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"It will be the easiest trade deal on history,the eu need us more than we need them and they will be begging us to stay. We will take back control,not to be subject to eu corruption ,we will trade with the world and it will be a total success. It will take 3 years of wrangling and we will come close to crashing out without a deal. Jobs will go,shelves will be empty,there will be delays, you will need to take out a mortgage to get your weekly shop and you wont see the benefits for 50 years,whilst we line our pockets to the tune of £50b. You what mate?? This just another of your anti Brexit rambles?
Before we left..did they admit we wouldn't see the benefits for 50 years?"One man made that comment and you base your whole argument on that ,it also happens to be a man who you believe is only in it for himself you really couldnt make it up.  | |||
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"It will be the easiest trade deal on history,the eu need us more than we need them and they will be begging us to stay. We will take back control,not to be subject to eu corruption ,we will trade with the world and it will be a total success. It will take 3 years of wrangling and we will come close to crashing out without a deal. Jobs will go,shelves will be empty,there will be delays, you will need to take out a mortgage to get your weekly shop and you wont see the benefits for 50 years,whilst we line our pockets to the tune of £50b. You what mate?? This just another of your anti Brexit rambles?
Before we left..did they admit we wouldn't see the benefits for 50 years?One man made that comment and you base your whole argument on that ,it also happens to be a man who you believe is only in it for himself you really couldnt make it up. "No of course he isnt it only for himself. He is renowned for his philanthropy is our Jacob. | |||
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"It will be the easiest trade deal on history,the eu need us more than we need them and they will be begging us to stay. We will take back control,not to be subject to eu corruption ,we will trade with the world and it will be a total success. It will take 3 years of wrangling and we will come close to crashing out without a deal. Jobs will go,shelves will be empty,there will be delays, you will need to take out a mortgage to get your weekly shop and you wont see the benefits for 50 years,whilst we line our pockets to the tune of £50b. You what mate?? This just another of your anti Brexit rambles?
Before we left..did they admit we wouldn't see the benefits for 50 years?One man made that comment and you base your whole argument on that ,it also happens to be a man who you believe is only in it for himself you really couldnt make it up.
No of course he isnt it only for himself.
He is renowned for his philanthropy is our Jacob."It seems you only believe him when it suits just about sums you up mate. | |||
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"It will be the easiest trade deal on history,the eu need us more than we need them and they will be begging us to stay. We will take back control,not to be subject to eu corruption ,we will trade with the world and it will be a total success. It will take 3 years of wrangling and we will come close to crashing out without a deal. Jobs will go,shelves will be empty,there will be delays, you will need to take out a mortgage to get your weekly shop and you wont see the benefits for 50 years,whilst we line our pockets to the tune of £50b. You what mate?? This just another of your anti Brexit rambles?
Before we left..did they admit we wouldn't see the benefits for 50 years?One man made that comment and you base your whole argument on that ,it also happens to be a man who you believe is only in it for himself you really couldnt make it up. "When are we going to see benefits then? Surely when going into a trillion pound project that will fundamentally affect the life of every UK citizen there is a costs/benefits analysis and a timescale? Just show me a quote, any quote, by any one of the brexit architects that says when it's going to get good. Because at the moment JRM's "50 years" is the only one we've got. | |||
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"It will be the easiest trade deal on history,the eu need us more than we need them and they will be begging us to stay. We will take back control,not to be subject to eu corruption ,we will trade with the world and it will be a total success. It will take 3 years of wrangling and we will come close to crashing out without a deal. Jobs will go,shelves will be empty,there will be delays, you will need to take out a mortgage to get your weekly shop and you wont see the benefits for 50 years,whilst we line our pockets to the tune of £50b. You what mate?? This just another of your anti Brexit rambles?
Before we left..did they admit we wouldn't see the benefits for 50 years?One man made that comment and you base your whole argument on that ,it also happens to be a man who you believe is only in it for himself you really couldnt make it up.
No of course he isnt it only for himself.
He is renowned for his philanthropy is our Jacob.It seems you only believe him when it suits just about sums you up mate."That makes no sense. Fact. People were warned that brecit may have downsides including price rises and it was laughed off as protect fear. | |||
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"It will be the easiest trade deal on history,the eu need us more than we need them and they will be begging us to stay. We will take back control,not to be subject to eu corruption ,we will trade with the world and it will be a total success. It will take 3 years of wrangling and we will come close to crashing out without a deal. Jobs will go,shelves will be empty,there will be delays, you will need to take out a mortgage to get your weekly shop and you wont see the benefits for 50 years,whilst we line our pockets to the tune of £50b. You what mate?? This just another of your anti Brexit rambles?
Before we left..did they admit we wouldn't see the benefits for 50 years?One man made that comment and you base your whole argument on that ,it also happens to be a man who you believe is only in it for himself you really couldnt make it up.
When are we going to see benefits then? Surely when going into a trillion pound project that will fundamentally affect the life of every UK citizen there is a costs/benefits analysis and a timescale? Just show me a quote, any quote, by any one of the brexit architects that says when it's going to get good.
Because at the moment JRM's "50 years" is the only one we've got."They don't have too,its done. I suspect there will be some backtracking over the next few months. And once covid Is over and we are left with paying that money back, even more cuts, and the post brexit era..its not going to be pretty. | |||
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"It will be the easiest trade deal on history,the eu need us more than we need them and they will be begging us to stay. We will take back control,not to be subject to eu corruption ,we will trade with the world and it will be a total success. It will take 3 years of wrangling and we will come close to crashing out without a deal. Jobs will go,shelves will be empty,there will be delays, you will need to take out a mortgage to get your weekly shop and you wont see the benefits for 50 years,whilst we line our pockets to the tune of £50b. You what mate?? This just another of your anti Brexit rambles?
Before we left..did they admit we wouldn't see the benefits for 50 years?One man made that comment and you base your whole argument on that ,it also happens to be a man who you believe is only in it for himself you really couldnt make it up.
When are we going to see benefits then? Surely when going into a trillion pound project that will fundamentally affect the life of every UK citizen there is a costs/benefits analysis and a timescale? Just show me a quote, any quote, by any one of the brexit architects that says when it's going to get good.
Because at the moment JRM's "50 years" is the only one we've got.
They don't have too,its done.
I suspect there will be some backtracking over the next few months.
And once covid Is over and we are left with paying that money back, even more cuts, and the post brexit era..its not going to be pretty."So now we're lumping covid and cuts to get some of that money back with Brexit? I say blame Brexit for all | |||
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"It will be the easiest trade deal on history,the eu need us more than we need them and they will be begging us to stay. We will take back control,not to be subject to eu corruption ,we will trade with the world and it will be a total success. It will take 3 years of wrangling and we will come close to crashing out without a deal. Jobs will go,shelves will be empty,there will be delays, you will need to take out a mortgage to get your weekly shop and you wont see the benefits for 50 years,whilst we line our pockets to the tune of £50b. You what mate?? This just another of your anti Brexit rambles?
Before we left..did they admit we wouldn't see the benefits for 50 years?One man made that comment and you base your whole argument on that ,it also happens to be a man who you believe is only in it for himself you really couldnt make it up.
When are we going to see benefits then? Surely when going into a trillion pound project that will fundamentally affect the life of every UK citizen there is a costs/benefits analysis and a timescale? Just show me a quote, any quote, by any one of the brexit architects that says when it's going to get good.
Because at the moment JRM's "50 years" is the only one we've got.
They don't have too,its done.
I suspect there will be some backtracking over the next few months.
And once covid Is over and we are left with paying that money back, even more cuts, and the post brexit era..its not going to be pretty.
So now we're lumping covid and cuts to get some of that money back with Brexit?
I say blame Brexit for all "Nope. I said once covid is over, we will be left with footing the bill. | |||
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"It will be the easiest trade deal on history,the eu need us more than we need them and they will be begging us to stay. We will take back control,not to be subject to eu corruption ,we will trade with the world and it will be a total success. It will take 3 years of wrangling and we will come close to crashing out without a deal. Jobs will go,shelves will be empty,there will be delays, you will need to take out a mortgage to get your weekly shop and you wont see the benefits for 50 years,whilst we line our pockets to the tune of £50b. You what mate?? This just another of your anti Brexit rambles?
Before we left..did they admit we wouldn't see the benefits for 50 years?One man made that comment and you base your whole argument on that ,it also happens to be a man who you believe is only in it for himself you really couldnt make it up.
When are we going to see benefits then? Surely when going into a trillion pound project that will fundamentally affect the life of every UK citizen there is a costs/benefits analysis and a timescale? Just show me a quote, any quote, by any one of the brexit architects that says when it's going to get good.
Because at the moment JRM's "50 years" is the only one we've got.
They don't have too,its done.
I suspect there will be some backtracking over the next few months.
And once covid Is over and we are left with paying that money back, even more cuts, and the post brexit era..its not going to be pretty.
So now we're lumping covid and cuts to get some of that money back with Brexit?
I say blame Brexit for all
Nope.
I said once covid is over, we will be left with footing the bill.
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"It will be the easiest trade deal on history,the eu need us more than we need them and they will be begging us to stay. We will take back control,not to be subject to eu corruption ,we will trade with the world and it will be a total success. It will take 3 years of wrangling and we will come close to crashing out without a deal. Jobs will go,shelves will be empty,there will be delays, you will need to take out a mortgage to get your weekly shop and you wont see the benefits for 50 years,whilst we line our pockets to the tune of £50b. You what mate?? This just another of your anti Brexit rambles?
Before we left..did they admit we wouldn't see the benefits for 50 years?One man made that comment and you base your whole argument on that ,it also happens to be a man who you believe is only in it for himself you really couldnt make it up.
When are we going to see benefits then? Surely when going into a trillion pound project that will fundamentally affect the life of every UK citizen there is a costs/benefits analysis and a timescale? Just show me a quote, any quote, by any one of the brexit architects that says when it's going to get good.
Because at the moment JRM's "50 years" is the only one we've got.
They don't have too,its done.
I suspect there will be some backtracking over the next few months.
And once covid Is over and we are left with paying that money back, even more cuts, and the post brexit era..its not going to be pretty.
So now we're lumping covid and cuts to get some of that money back with Brexit?
I say blame Brexit for all
Nope.
I said once covid is over, we will be left with footing the bill.
Of course we will be left footing the bill. Just like the whole world.
But what does it have to do with Brexit? You're the one who put them in the same sentence "Because prices will be going up aswell as paying the money back. It's not rocket science. | |||
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"It will be the easiest trade deal on history,the eu need us more than we need them and they will be begging us to stay. We will take back control,not to be subject to eu corruption ,we will trade with the world and it will be a total success. It will take 3 years of wrangling and we will come close to crashing out without a deal. Jobs will go,shelves will be empty,there will be delays, you will need to take out a mortgage to get your weekly shop and you wont see the benefits for 50 years,whilst we line our pockets to the tune of £50b. You what mate?? This just another of your anti Brexit rambles?
Before we left..did they admit we wouldn't see the benefits for 50 years?One man made that comment and you base your whole argument on that ,it also happens to be a man who you believe is only in it for himself you really couldnt make it up.
When are we going to see benefits then? Surely when going into a trillion pound project that will fundamentally affect the life of every UK citizen there is a costs/benefits analysis and a timescale? Just show me a quote, any quote, by any one of the brexit architects that says when it's going to get good.
Because at the moment JRM's "50 years" is the only one we've got.
They don't have too,its done.
I suspect there will be some backtracking over the next few months.
And once covid Is over and we are left with paying that money back, even more cuts, and the post brexit era..its not going to be pretty.
So now we're lumping covid and cuts to get some of that money back with Brexit?
I say blame Brexit for all
Nope.
I said once covid is over, we will be left with footing the bill.
Of course we will be left footing the bill. Just like the whole world.
But what does it have to do with Brexit? You're the one who put them in the same sentence
Because prices will be going up aswell as paying the money back.
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 Did you actually read the article?: “The new VAT model ensures goods from EU and non-EU countries are treated in the same way and that UK businesses are not disadvantaged by competition from VAT-free imports. "The new system also addresses the problem of overseas sellers failing to pay the right amount of VAT when they sell goods in the UK”" I’m totally behind tightening up the VAT rules on imports. The problem is that we could have done this 10 years ago. Brexit does not add any value to this. When do we see a real benefit from Brexit? | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 Did you actually read the article?: “The new VAT model ensures goods from EU and non-EU countries are treated in the same way and that UK businesses are not disadvantaged by competition from VAT-free imports. "The new system also addresses the problem of overseas sellers failing to pay the right amount of VAT when they sell goods in the UK” I’m totally behind tightening up the VAT rules on imports. The problem is that we could have done this 10 years ago. Brexit does not add any value to this. When do we see a real benefit from Brexit?" Give it a chance its been 3 weeks,you should know that the eu made conditions that the uk couldnt even talk trade deals until after the withdrawal agreement was signed and then could not implement any until after the transition period.If you thought you would see any imediate benefits after 3 weeks you are delusional. | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 Did you actually read the article?: “The new VAT model ensures goods from EU and non-EU countries are treated in the same way and that UK businesses are not disadvantaged by competition from VAT-free imports. "The new system also addresses the problem of overseas sellers failing to pay the right amount of VAT when they sell goods in the UK” I’m totally behind tightening up the VAT rules on imports. The problem is that we could have done this 10 years ago. Brexit does not add any value to this. When do we see a real benefit from Brexit?Give it a chance its been 3 weeks,you should know that the eu made conditions that the uk couldnt even talk trade deals until after the withdrawal agreement was signed and then could not implement any until after the transition period.If you thought you would see any imediate benefits after 3 weeks you are delusional." ...so when do you expect them & what will they be? Surely Brexiteers had a plan? | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 Did you actually read the article?: “The new VAT model ensures goods from EU and non-EU countries are treated in the same way and that UK businesses are not disadvantaged by competition from VAT-free imports. "The new system also addresses the problem of overseas sellers failing to pay the right amount of VAT when they sell goods in the UK” I’m totally behind tightening up the VAT rules on imports. The problem is that we could have done this 10 years ago. Brexit does not add any value to this. When do we see a real benefit from Brexit?Give it a chance its been 3 weeks,you should know that the eu made conditions that the uk couldnt even talk trade deals until after the withdrawal agreement was signed and then could not implement any until after the transition period.If you thought you would see any imediate benefits after 3 weeks you are delusional. ...so when do you expect them & what will they be? Surely Brexiteers had a plan? " Just because you keep asking the same thing doesn't mean you'll get a different answer. You all ask the same question, it's boring | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 Did you actually read the article?: “The new VAT model ensures goods from EU and non-EU countries are treated in the same way and that UK businesses are not disadvantaged by competition from VAT-free imports. "The new system also addresses the problem of overseas sellers failing to pay the right amount of VAT when they sell goods in the UK” I’m totally behind tightening up the VAT rules on imports. The problem is that we could have done this 10 years ago. Brexit does not add any value to this. When do we see a real benefit from Brexit?Give it a chance its been 3 weeks,you should know that the eu made conditions that the uk couldnt even talk trade deals until after the withdrawal agreement was signed and then could not implement any until after the transition period.If you thought you would see any imediate benefits after 3 weeks you are delusional. ...so when do you expect them & what will they be? Surely Brexiteers had a plan? Just because you keep asking the same thing doesn't mean you'll get a different answer. You all ask the same question, it's boring" Its like a broken record fabtastic,s favourite question. | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 Did you actually read the article?: “The new VAT model ensures goods from EU and non-EU countries are treated in the same way and that UK businesses are not disadvantaged by competition from VAT-free imports. "The new system also addresses the problem of overseas sellers failing to pay the right amount of VAT when they sell goods in the UK” I’m totally behind tightening up the VAT rules on imports. The problem is that we could have done this 10 years ago. Brexit does not add any value to this. When do we see a real benefit from Brexit?Give it a chance its been 3 weeks,you should know that the eu made conditions that the uk couldnt even talk trade deals until after the withdrawal agreement was signed and then could not implement any until after the transition period.If you thought you would see any imediate benefits after 3 weeks you are delusional. ...so when do you expect them & what will they be? Surely Brexiteers had a plan? Just because you keep asking the same thing doesn't mean you'll get a different answer. You all ask the same question, it's boringIts like a broken record fabtastic,s favourite question. "Well I suppose by never answering a simple question, you can’t be accused of lying. But it does mean noone is convinced Brexit has any positive upside. Surely it must be easy to list or point me to a list of positives? You seem well educated and seem to be informed - perhaps you can help the less informed? Maybe the answers are behind a paywall and I can’t see them - help me out | |||
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"Sounds like good news for UK retailers to me. Just stick to buying stuff in the UK." I’ll now just buy those Oranges grown in Lanarkshire rather than Spain.... | |||
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"Sounds like good news for UK retailers to me. Just stick to buying stuff in the UK. I’ll now just buy those Oranges grown in Lanarkshire rather than Spain...." Other fruits are available and save the planet, stop flying stuff round the world, everyone claims they want to do good but.... I need Oranges now, right now, and cheap really cheap, and I need a new phone and a holiday in alaska lol | |||
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"Sounds like good news for UK retailers to me. Just stick to buying stuff in the UK. I’ll now just buy those Oranges grown in Lanarkshire rather than Spain.... Other fruits are available and save the planet, stop flying stuff round the world, everyone claims they want to do good but.... I need Oranges now, right now, and cheap really cheap, and I need a new phone and a holiday in alaska lol "aywhere but Alaska tbh somewhere hot lol | |||
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"So to put it simply..now we have left...if you buy something from europe,its more expensive? Yes, in simple terms. Cool Something else they should have put on that bus." Is "Cutting our noses off to spite our faces" too long? | |||
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"Sounds like good news for UK retailers to me. Just stick to buying stuff in the UK. I’ll now just buy those Oranges grown in Lanarkshire rather than Spain...." If you take a look back last week the oranges fallacy was dealt with comprehensively and it was proved how much better off we would be post Brexit. Same goes for most of the hysterical shrieks you’ve given the country a headache with over the past five years. | |||
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"Sounds like good news for UK retailers to me. Just stick to buying stuff in the UK. I’ll now just buy those Oranges grown in Lanarkshire rather than Spain.... If you take a look back last week the oranges fallacy was dealt with comprehensively and it was proved how much better off we would be post Brexit. Same goes for most of the hysterical shrieks you’ve given the country a headache with over the past five years." Where has it been “proved how much better off we would be post Bredit”? Could you post a link, it could solve a whole load of frustrations. Thanks. | |||
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"Sounds like good news for UK retailers to me. Just stick to buying stuff in the UK. I’ll now just buy those Oranges grown in Lanarkshire rather than Spain.... Other fruits are available and save the planet, stop flying stuff round the world, everyone claims they want to do good but.... I need Oranges now, right now, and cheap really cheap, and I need a new phone and a holiday in alaska lol aywhere but Alaska tbh somewhere hot lol"Exactly and when its all hot growing oranges will be easy! | |||
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"It seems some people have a problem in supporting UK retailers.!" It seems some people have a problem of others having a choice | |||
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"Sounds like good news for UK retailers to me. Just stick to buying stuff in the UK. Hang on I thought we were going to trade with the world now? One of the main benefits of Brexit, apparently
Its seems its started i was reading today about a company that imports dried fruit and lemons from Spain and since brexit has been having trouble with supplies so is now buying from egypt. "Should be buying from Bradford | |||
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"Sounds like good news for UK retailers to me. Just stick to buying stuff in the UK. I’ll now just buy those Oranges grown in Lanarkshire rather than Spain.... If you take a look back last week the oranges fallacy was dealt with comprehensively and it was proved how much better off we would be post Brexit. Same goes for most of the hysterical shrieks you’ve given the country a headache with over the past five years." You’re making that up Your claim that it was ok to bring oranges from South Africa was debunked as simply untrue. Spain is the worlds biggest and most efficient producer and costs along with pollution and logistics costs mean South Africa and Egypt are way behind on costs and pollution. You didn’t allow for nautical miles or real shipping miles if you can remember and certainly didn’t allow for dirty heavy oils which account for most of the world’s shipping fleet. EU trucks are updating beyond EURO six and will probably be electric 30years before deep sea ships even stop using heavy dirty oil. No comparison whatsoever . For the record EU waters east of the U.K. have for at least 10 years been subject to punitive taxes on dirty oils so ships have been moving to cleaner diesel. Shippers have paid in increased taxes. The law was expanded to include west of the U.K. down to Spain a couple of years ago. European shippers have chosen either to install scrubbers or replace ships with cleaner engines to avoid the punitive tax rates. Cleaner Ships are quickly taking the place of dirty ships in the European region. Globally ships are being made to change their ways but they have until 2050. | |||
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"It seems some people have a problem in supporting UK retailers.! It seems some people have a problem of others having a choice
The thread isn't about choice, its about extra cost. Just saying "Cost increases reduce choice so they are related. | |||
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The thread isn't about choice, its about extra cost. Just saying
Cost increases reduce choice so they are related. "We chose not to be in market, not to pay membership, we made a choice, don't buy a sports car and then complain its got a small boot and hard to get out of lol | |||
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"Sounds like good news for UK retailers to me. Just stick to buying stuff in the UK. I’ll now just buy those Oranges grown in Lanarkshire rather than Spain.... If you take a look back last week the oranges fallacy was dealt with comprehensively and it was proved how much better off we would be post Brexit. Same goes for most of the hysterical shrieks you’ve given the country a headache with over the past five years. You’re making that up Your claim that it was ok to bring oranges from South Africa was debunked as simply untrue. Spain is the worlds biggest and most efficient producer and costs along with pollution and logistics costs mean South Africa and Egypt are way behind on costs and pollution. You didn’t allow for nautical miles or real shipping miles if you can remember and certainly didn’t allow for dirty heavy oils which account for most of the world’s shipping fleet. EU trucks are updating beyond EURO six and will probably be electric 30years before deep sea ships even stop using heavy dirty oil. No comparison whatsoever . For the record EU waters east of the U.K. have for at least 10 years been subject to punitive taxes on dirty oils so ships have been moving to cleaner diesel. Shippers have paid in increased taxes. The law was expanded to include west of the U.K. down to Spain a couple of years ago. European shippers have chosen either to install scrubbers or replace ships with cleaner engines to avoid the punitive tax rates. Cleaner Ships are quickly taking the place of dirty ships in the European region. Globally ships are being made to change their ways but they have until 2050. " Small point of order ... Egypt just scraped ahead of Spain and South Africa to become the worlds largest orange exporter by volume - 1.8m/MT, 1.7m/MT, 1.2m/MT | |||
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That didn’t answer my question, why didn’t all the leave voters support UK retailers prior to 2016 "The thread is about costs, prior to brexit we paid to be in a club, our retailers played same rules, all shops were eu shops, now there are uk shops and eu shops. So support uk shops | |||
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"Sounds like good news for UK retailers to me. Just stick to buying stuff in the UK. I’ll now just buy those Oranges grown in Lanarkshire rather than Spain.... If you take a look back last week the oranges fallacy was dealt with comprehensively and it was proved how much better off we would be post Brexit. Same goes for most of the hysterical shrieks you’ve given the country a headache with over the past five years. You’re making that up Your claim that it was ok to bring oranges from South Africa was debunked as simply untrue. Spain is the worlds biggest and most efficient producer and costs along with pollution and logistics costs mean South Africa and Egypt are way behind on costs and pollution. You didn’t allow for nautical miles or real shipping miles if you can remember and certainly didn’t allow for dirty heavy oils which account for most of the world’s shipping fleet. EU trucks are updating beyond EURO six and will probably be electric 30years before deep sea ships even stop using heavy dirty oil. No comparison whatsoever . For the record EU waters east of the U.K. have for at least 10 years been subject to punitive taxes on dirty oils so ships have been moving to cleaner diesel. Shippers have paid in increased taxes. The law was expanded to include west of the U.K. down to Spain a couple of years ago. European shippers have chosen either to install scrubbers or replace ships with cleaner engines to avoid the punitive tax rates. Cleaner Ships are quickly taking the place of dirty ships in the European region. Globally ships are being made to change their ways but they have until 2050. Small point of order ... Egypt just scraped ahead of Spain and South Africa to become the worlds largest orange exporter by volume - 1.8m/MT, 1.7m/MT, 1.2m/MT "Actually the world biggest producer is Brazil followed by the USA then I think India . But your point is interesting as I’ve checked three industry figures regarding export and they all put Egypt and Spain neck and neck but if you use the EU as a whole then it’s twice as much production as Egypt. So again my mistake for saying Spain rather than EU as I was not clear. Either way cheaper and less pollution from EU oranges and an almost year round supply due to main four varieties being harvested at different times. | |||
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That didn’t answer my question, why didn’t all the leave voters support UK retailers prior to 2016
The thread is about costs, prior to brexit we paid to be in a club, our retailers played same rules, all shops were eu shops, now there are uk shops and eu shops. So support uk shops "Brexit Britain where you now have to buy sub standard expensive British goods or go to charity shops as the EU equivalent is now too expensive. | |||
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That didn’t answer my question, why didn’t all the leave voters support UK retailers prior to 2016
The thread is about costs, prior to brexit we paid to be in a club, our retailers played same rules, all shops were eu shops, now there are uk shops and eu shops. So support uk shops
Brexit Britain where you now have to buy sub standard expensive British goods or go to charity shops as the EU equivalent is now too expensive."you can always get another job on a night if yr struggling bud lol | |||
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"It seems some people have a problem in supporting UK retailers.! Why couldn’t we support UK retailers when we we’re in the EU? Why pay a club membership and not use it? Stop paying membership and train at home
That didn’t answer my question, why didn’t all the leave voters support UK retailers prior to 2016
The thread is about costs, prior to brexit we paid to be in a club, our retailers played same rules, all shops were eu shops, now there are uk shops and eu shops. So support uk shops
Brexit Britain where you now have to buy sub standard expensive British goods or go to charity shops as the EU equivalent is now too expensive.you can always get another job on a night if yr struggling bud lol"I am not struggling, I will continue to buy the items I prefer and if they cost more now then so be it. I am not sure how all this benefits UK companies that export to the EU? | |||
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That didn’t answer my question, why didn’t all the leave voters support UK retailers prior to 2016
The thread is about costs, prior to brexit we paid to be in a club, our retailers played same rules, all shops were eu shops, now there are uk shops and eu shops. So support uk shops
Brexit Britain where you now have to buy sub standard expensive British goods or go to charity shops as the EU equivalent is now too expensive."
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"It seems some people have a problem in supporting UK retailers.! Why couldn’t we support UK retailers when we we’re in the EU? Why pay a club membership and not use it? Stop paying membership and train at home
That didn’t answer my question, why didn’t all the leave voters support UK retailers prior to 2016
The thread is about costs, prior to brexit we paid to be in a club, our retailers played same rules, all shops were eu shops, now there are uk shops and eu shops. So support uk shops
Brexit Britain where you now have to buy sub standard expensive British goods or go to charity shops as the EU equivalent is now too expensive.
Living the dream"I am I’m not to sure about ya self fantastic and skysurfer I’m really worried about yr mental health it can’t be good for yas guys just saying | |||
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"It seems some people have a problem in supporting UK retailers.! Why couldn’t we support UK retailers when we we’re in the EU? Why pay a club membership and not use it? Stop paying membership and train at home
That didn’t answer my question, why didn’t all the leave voters support UK retailers prior to 2016
The thread is about costs, prior to brexit we paid to be in a club, our retailers played same rules, all shops were eu shops, now there are uk shops and eu shops. So support uk shops
Brexit Britain where you now have to buy sub standard expensive British goods or go to charity shops as the EU equivalent is now too expensive.
Living the dream I am I’m not to sure about ya self fantastic and skysurfer I’m really worried about yr mental health it can’t be good for yas guys just saying "My Mental health is great , keeping fit and healthy, how is yours? | |||
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"It seems some people have a problem in supporting UK retailers.! Why couldn’t we support UK retailers when we we’re in the EU? Why pay a club membership and not use it? Stop paying membership and train at home
That didn’t answer my question, why didn’t all the leave voters support UK retailers prior to 2016
The thread is about costs, prior to brexit we paid to be in a club, our retailers played same rules, all shops were eu shops, now there are uk shops and eu shops. So support uk shops
Brexit Britain where you now have to buy sub standard expensive British goods or go to charity shops as the EU equivalent is now too expensive."So you agree the point then but now want to argue British goods are substandard, are they? Really? No they aren't. Buy a British coat, support the minimum wage, instead of sweat shops and keep your cloths longer | |||
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"It seems some people have a problem in supporting UK retailers.! Why couldn’t we support UK retailers when we we’re in the EU? Why pay a club membership and not use it? Stop paying membership and train at home
That didn’t answer my question, why didn’t all the leave voters support UK retailers prior to 2016
The thread is about costs, prior to brexit we paid to be in a club, our retailers played same rules, all shops were eu shops, now there are uk shops and eu shops. So support uk shops
Brexit Britain where you now have to buy sub standard expensive British goods or go to charity shops as the EU equivalent is now too expensive.
Living the dream I am I’m not to sure about ya self fantastic and skysurfer I’m really worried about yr mental health it can’t be good for yas guys just saying
My Mental health is great , keeping fit and healthy, how is yours? "spot in mate I’m a glass half full trust me that helps | |||
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"It seems some people have a problem in supporting UK retailers.! Why couldn’t we support UK retailers when we we’re in the EU? Why pay a club membership and not use it? Stop paying membership and train at home
That didn’t answer my question, why didn’t all the leave voters support UK retailers prior to 2016
The thread is about costs, prior to brexit we paid to be in a club, our retailers played same rules, all shops were eu shops, now there are uk shops and eu shops. So support uk shops
Brexit Britain where you now have to buy sub standard expensive British goods or go to charity shops as the EU equivalent is now too expensive.
Living the dream I am I’m not to sure about ya self fantastic and skysurfer I’m really worried about yr mental health it can’t be good for yas guys just saying
My Mental health is great , keeping fit and healthy, how is yours? spot in mate I’m a glass half full trust me that helps "Excellent, I am glad your not suffering but tbh I would never question someone’s mental health on here, that would be below the belt ?? | |||
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"It seems some people have a problem in supporting UK retailers.! Why couldn’t we support UK retailers when we we’re in the EU? Why pay a club membership and not use it? Stop paying membership and train at home
That didn’t answer my question, why didn’t all the leave voters support UK retailers prior to 2016
The thread is about costs, prior to brexit we paid to be in a club, our retailers played same rules, all shops were eu shops, now there are uk shops and eu shops. So support uk shops
Brexit Britain where you now have to buy sub standard expensive British goods or go to charity shops as the EU equivalent is now too expensive.
Living the dream I am I’m not to sure about ya self fantastic and skysurfer I’m really worried about yr mental health it can’t be good for yas guys just saying
My Mental health is great , keeping fit and healthy, how is yours? spot in mate I’m a glass half full trust me that helps
Excellent, I am glad your not suffering but tbh I would never question someone’s mental health on here, that would be below the belt ?? "my bad mate | |||
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"It seems some people have a problem in supporting UK retailers.! Why couldn’t we support UK retailers when we we’re in the EU? Why pay a club membership and not use it? Stop paying membership and train at home
That didn’t answer my question, why didn’t all the leave voters support UK retailers prior to 2016
The thread is about costs, prior to brexit we paid to be in a club, our retailers played same rules, all shops were eu shops, now there are uk shops and eu shops. So support uk shops
Brexit Britain where you now have to buy sub standard expensive British goods or go to charity shops as the EU equivalent is now too expensive.
So you agree the point then but now want to argue British goods are substandard, are they? Really? No they aren't.
Buy a British coat, support the minimum wage, instead of sweat shops and keep your cloths longer "A British coat? So I now have to buy a product from the UK because the one I prefer from the EU is too expensive ? And how does buying from charity shops help the UKs economy? I will continue to buy products that I want rather than where they are from and last time I checked Italian made clothes don’t use sweat shops | |||
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"It seems some people have a problem in supporting UK retailers.! Why couldn’t we support UK retailers when we we’re in the EU? Why pay a club membership and not use it? Stop paying membership and train at home
That didn’t answer my question, why didn’t all the leave voters support UK retailers prior to 2016
The thread is about costs, prior to brexit we paid to be in a club, our retailers played same rules, all shops were eu shops, now there are uk shops and eu shops. So support uk shops
Brexit Britain where you now have to buy sub standard expensive British goods or go to charity shops as the EU equivalent is now too expensive.
Living the dream I am I’m not to sure about ya self fantastic and skysurfer I’m really worried about yr mental health it can’t be good for yas guys just saying
My Mental health is great , keeping fit and healthy, how is yours? spot in mate I’m a glass half full trust me that helps
Excellent, I am glad your not suffering but tbh I would never question someone’s mental health on here, that would be below the belt ?? my bad mate "No problem, I know it was banter | |||
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"It seems some people have a problem in supporting UK retailers.! Why couldn’t we support UK retailers when we we’re in the EU? Why pay a club membership and not use it? Stop paying membership and train at home
That didn’t answer my question, why didn’t all the leave voters support UK retailers prior to 2016
The thread is about costs, prior to brexit we paid to be in a club, our retailers played same rules, all shops were eu shops, now there are uk shops and eu shops. So support uk shops
Brexit Britain where you now have to buy sub standard expensive British goods or go to charity shops as the EU equivalent is now too expensive.
So you agree the point then but now want to argue British goods are substandard, are they? Really? No they aren't.
Buy a British coat, support the minimum wage, instead of sweat shops and keep your cloths longer
A British coat? So I now have to buy a product from the UK because the one I prefer from the EU is too expensive ? And how does buying from charity shops help the UKs economy? I will continue to buy products that I want rather than where they are from and last time I checked Italian made clothes don’t use sweat shops "You keep changing tact, we voted, we left the Eu club, buy outside the eu or don't. | |||
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"Sounds like good news for UK retailers to me. Just stick to buying stuff in the UK. I’ll now just buy those Oranges grown in Lanarkshire rather than Spain.... If you take a look back last week the oranges fallacy was dealt with comprehensively and it was proved how much better off we would be post Brexit. Same goes for most of the hysterical shrieks you’ve given the country a headache with over the past five years. You’re making that up Your claim that it was ok to bring oranges from South Africa was debunked as simply untrue. Spain is the worlds biggest and most efficient producer and costs along with pollution and logistics costs mean South Africa and Egypt are way behind on costs and pollution. You didn’t allow for nautical miles or real shipping miles if you can remember and certainly didn’t allow for dirty heavy oils which account for most of the world’s shipping fleet. EU trucks are updating beyond EURO six and will probably be electric 30years before deep sea ships even stop using heavy dirty oil. No comparison whatsoever . For the record EU waters east of the U.K. have for at least 10 years been subject to punitive taxes on dirty oils so ships have been moving to cleaner diesel. Shippers have paid in increased taxes. The law was expanded to include west of the U.K. down to Spain a couple of years ago. European shippers have chosen either to install scrubbers or replace ships with cleaner engines to avoid the punitive tax rates. Cleaner Ships are quickly taking the place of dirty ships in the European region. Globally ships are being made to change their ways but they have until 2050. Small point of order ... Egypt just scraped ahead of Spain and South Africa to become the worlds largest orange exporter by volume - 1.8m/MT, 1.7m/MT, 1.2m/MT
Actually the world biggest producer is Brazil followed by the USA then I think India .
But your point is interesting as I’ve checked three industry figures regarding export and they all put Egypt and Spain neck and neck but if you use the EU as a whole then it’s twice as much production as Egypt.
So again my mistake for saying Spain rather than EU as I was not clear.
Either way cheaper and less pollution from EU oranges and an almost year round supply due to main four varieties being harvested at different times. "I was going to post about Brazil but I figured whats the point lol. If people are prepared to tell brazen lies it just reduces their credibility anyway. I mean, look at Trump as a prime example. “Magnificent, the best oranges ever, something very special.....” Lol | |||
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"Sounds like good news for UK retailers to me. Just stick to buying stuff in the UK. I’ll now just buy those Oranges grown in Lanarkshire rather than Spain.... If you take a look back last week the oranges fallacy was dealt with comprehensively and it was proved how much better off we would be post Brexit. Same goes for most of the hysterical shrieks you’ve given the country a headache with over the past five years. You’re making that up Your claim that it was ok to bring oranges from South Africa was debunked as simply untrue. Spain is the worlds biggest and most efficient producer and costs along with pollution and logistics costs mean South Africa and Egypt are way behind on costs and pollution. You didn’t allow for nautical miles or real shipping miles if you can remember and certainly didn’t allow for dirty heavy oils which account for most of the world’s shipping fleet. EU trucks are updating beyond EURO six and will probably be electric 30years before deep sea ships even stop using heavy dirty oil. No comparison whatsoever . For the record EU waters east of the U.K. have for at least 10 years been subject to punitive taxes on dirty oils so ships have been moving to cleaner diesel. Shippers have paid in increased taxes. The law was expanded to include west of the U.K. down to Spain a couple of years ago. European shippers have chosen either to install scrubbers or replace ships with cleaner engines to avoid the punitive tax rates. Cleaner Ships are quickly taking the place of dirty ships in the European region. Globally ships are being made to change their ways but they have until 2050. Small point of order ... Egypt just scraped ahead of Spain and South Africa to become the worlds largest orange exporter by volume - 1.8m/MT, 1.7m/MT, 1.2m/MT
Actually the world biggest producer is Brazil followed by the USA then I think India .
But your point is interesting as I’ve checked three industry figures regarding export and they all put Egypt and Spain neck and neck but if you use the EU as a whole then it’s twice as much production as Egypt.
So again my mistake for saying Spain rather than EU as I was not clear.
Either way cheaper and less pollution from EU oranges and an almost year round supply due to main four varieties being harvested at different times.
I was going to post about Brazil but I figured whats the point lol. If people are prepared to tell brazen lies it just reduces their credibility anyway.
I mean, look at Trump as a prime example.
“Magnificent, the best oranges ever, something very special.....”
Lol "We are talking about whole oranges, yes?
Brazil is the worlds largest producer of the fruit, but I think most of this is juiced, which makes them the worlds largest exporter of FCOJ (50% of all the orange juice d*unk in the world comes from Brazil )
Anyway for Egypts claim to the orange (whole,complete, not juiced) export crown, freshfruitportal is your friend
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"It seems some people have a problem in supporting UK retailers.! Why couldn’t we support UK retailers when we we’re in the EU? Why pay a club membership and not use it? Stop paying membership and train at home
That didn’t answer my question, why didn’t all the leave voters support UK retailers prior to 2016
The thread is about costs, prior to brexit we paid to be in a club, our retailers played same rules, all shops were eu shops, now there are uk shops and eu shops. So support uk shops
Brexit Britain where you now have to buy sub standard expensive British goods or go to charity shops as the EU equivalent is now too expensive.
So you agree the point then but now want to argue British goods are substandard, are they? Really? No they aren't.
Buy a British coat, support the minimum wage, instead of sweat shops and keep your cloths longer
A British coat? So I now have to buy a product from the UK because the one I prefer from the EU is too expensive ? And how does buying from charity shops help the UKs economy? I will continue to buy products that I want rather than where they are from and last time I checked Italian made clothes don’t use sweat shops
You keep changing tact, we voted, we left the Eu club, buy outside the eu or don't.
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"It seems some people have a problem in supporting UK retailers.! Why couldn’t we support UK retailers when we we’re in the EU? Why pay a club membership and not use it? Stop paying membership and train at home
That didn’t answer my question, why didn’t all the leave voters support UK retailers prior to 2016
The thread is about costs, prior to brexit we paid to be in a club, our retailers played same rules, all shops were eu shops, now there are uk shops and eu shops. So support uk shops
Brexit Britain where you now have to buy sub standard expensive British goods or go to charity shops as the EU equivalent is now too expensive.
So you agree the point then but now want to argue British goods are substandard, are they? Really? No they aren't.
Buy a British coat, support the minimum wage, instead of sweat shops and keep your cloths longer
A British coat? So I now have to buy a product from the UK because the one I prefer from the EU is too expensive ? And how does buying from charity shops help the UKs economy? I will continue to buy products that I want rather than where they are from and last time I checked Italian made clothes don’t use sweat shops
You keep changing tact, we voted, we left the Eu club, buy outside the eu or don't.
I won’t, I will continue to buy the products I want from where I want, if it costs more than that’s fine . You can buy British or from the charity shop if you want, "Yes, I will be supporting local businesses and recycling to help the planet and you will continue with mindless commercialism regardless of cost. Well done you | |||
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"It seems some people have a problem in supporting UK retailers.! Why couldn’t we support UK retailers when we we’re in the EU? Why pay a club membership and not use it? Stop paying membership and train at home
That didn’t answer my question, why didn’t all the leave voters support UK retailers prior to 2016
The thread is about costs, prior to brexit we paid to be in a club, our retailers played same rules, all shops were eu shops, now there are uk shops and eu shops. So support uk shops
Brexit Britain where you now have to buy sub standard expensive British goods or go to charity shops as the EU equivalent is now too expensive.
So you agree the point then but now want to argue British goods are substandard, are they? Really? No they aren't.
Buy a British coat, support the minimum wage, instead of sweat shops and keep your cloths longer
A British coat? So I now have to buy a product from the UK because the one I prefer from the EU is too expensive ? And how does buying from charity shops help the UKs economy? I will continue to buy products that I want rather than where they are from and last time I checked Italian made clothes don’t use sweat shops
You keep changing tact, we voted, we left the Eu club, buy outside the eu or don't.
I won’t, I will continue to buy the products I want from where I want, if it costs more than that’s fine . You can buy British or from the charity shop if you want,
Yes, I will be supporting local businesses and recycling to help the planet and you will continue with mindless commercialism regardless of cost. Well done you "Personal preference, and here is something you haven’t considered or realised , I give all my old clothes to charity shops. Well done me | |||
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"It seems some people have a problem in supporting UK retailers.! Why couldn’t we support UK retailers when we we’re in the EU? Why pay a club membership and not use it? Stop paying membership and train at home
That didn’t answer my question, why didn’t all the leave voters support UK retailers prior to 2016
The thread is about costs, prior to brexit we paid to be in a club, our retailers played same rules, all shops were eu shops, now there are uk shops and eu shops. So support uk shops
Brexit Britain where you now have to buy sub standard expensive British goods or go to charity shops as the EU equivalent is now too expensive.
So you agree the point then but now want to argue British goods are substandard, are they? Really? No they aren't.
Buy a British coat, support the minimum wage, instead of sweat shops and keep your cloths longer
A British coat? So I now have to buy a product from the UK because the one I prefer from the EU is too expensive ? And how does buying from charity shops help the UKs economy? I will continue to buy products that I want rather than where they are from and last time I checked Italian made clothes don’t use sweat shops
You keep changing tact, we voted, we left the Eu club, buy outside the eu or don't.
I won’t, I will continue to buy the products I want from where I want, if it costs more than that’s fine . You can buy British or from the charity shop if you want,
Yes, I will be supporting local businesses and recycling to help the planet and you will continue with mindless commercialism regardless of cost. Well done you
Personal preference, and here is something you haven’t considered or realised , I give all my old clothes to charity shops. Well done me "You say that now lol and how do you know I hadnt considered it? You don't, more public assumptions! A sign of arrogance im sorry to say, you've lost credibility and been designated a hindsight poster, a late counter puncher, a prancing poodle.... some retail therapy might help? Night hun, another day perhaps x | |||
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"It seems some people have a problem in supporting UK retailers.! Why couldn’t we support UK retailers when we we’re in the EU? Why pay a club membership and not use it? Stop paying membership and train at home
That didn’t answer my question, why didn’t all the leave voters support UK retailers prior to 2016
The thread is about costs, prior to brexit we paid to be in a club, our retailers played same rules, all shops were eu shops, now there are uk shops and eu shops. So support uk shops
Brexit Britain where you now have to buy sub standard expensive British goods or go to charity shops as the EU equivalent is now too expensive.
So you agree the point then but now want to argue British goods are substandard, are they? Really? No they aren't.
Buy a British coat, support the minimum wage, instead of sweat shops and keep your cloths longer
A British coat? So I now have to buy a product from the UK because the one I prefer from the EU is too expensive ? And how does buying from charity shops help the UKs economy? I will continue to buy products that I want rather than where they are from and last time I checked Italian made clothes don’t use sweat shops
You keep changing tact, we voted, we left the Eu club, buy outside the eu or don't.
I won’t, I will continue to buy the products I want from where I want, if it costs more than that’s fine . You can buy British or from the charity shop if you want,
Yes, I will be supporting local businesses and recycling to help the planet and you will continue with mindless commercialism regardless of cost. Well done you
Personal preference, and here is something you haven’t considered or realised , I give all my old clothes to charity shops. Well done me
You say that now lol and how do you know I hadnt considered it? You don't, more public assumptions! A sign of arrogance im sorry to say, you've lost credibility and been designated a hindsight poster, a late counter puncher, a prancing poodle.... some retail therapy might help? Night hun, another day perhaps x "A sign of arrogance is the assumption that I am lying whilst expecting me to believe anything you are saying? If people like me didn’t donate their used clothes to charity then you and others wouldn’t have clothes to buy from charity shops. It was quite funny watching you try and fail to take the moral high ground, better luck next time . Night | |||
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"Sounds like good news for UK retailers to me. Just stick to buying stuff in the UK. I’ll now just buy those Oranges grown in Lanarkshire rather than Spain.... If you take a look back last week the oranges fallacy was dealt with comprehensively and it was proved how much better off we would be post Brexit. Same goes for most of the hysterical shrieks you’ve given the country a headache with over the past five years. Where has it been “proved how much better off we would be post Bredit”? Could you post a link, it could solve a whole load of frustrations. Thanks." It is funny how these statements are made, but never backed up by evidence. | |||
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"It seems some people have a problem in supporting UK retailers.! Why couldn’t we support UK retailers when we we’re in the EU? Why pay a club membership and not use it? Stop paying membership and train at home
That didn’t answer my question, why didn’t all the leave voters support UK retailers prior to 2016
The thread is about costs, prior to brexit we paid to be in a club, our retailers played same rules, all shops were eu shops, now there are uk shops and eu shops. So support uk shops
Brexit Britain where you now have to buy sub standard expensive British goods or go to charity shops as the EU equivalent is now too expensive.
So you agree the point then but now want to argue British goods are substandard, are they? Really? No they aren't.
Buy a British coat, support the minimum wage, instead of sweat shops and keep your cloths longer
A British coat? So I now have to buy a product from the UK because the one I prefer from the EU is too expensive ? And how does buying from charity shops help the UKs economy? I will continue to buy products that I want rather than where they are from and last time I checked Italian made clothes don’t use sweat shops
You keep changing tact, we voted, we left the Eu club, buy outside the eu or don't.
I won’t, I will continue to buy the products I want from where I want, if it costs more than that’s fine . You can buy British or from the charity shop if you want,
Yes, I will be supporting local businesses and recycling to help the planet and you will continue with mindless commercialism regardless of cost. Well done you
Personal preference, and here is something you haven’t considered or realised , I give all my old clothes to charity shops. Well done me
You say that now lol and how do you know I hadnt considered it? You don't, more public assumptions! A sign of arrogance im sorry to say, you've lost credibility and been designated a hindsight poster, a late counter puncher, a prancing poodle.... some retail therapy might help? Night hun, another day perhaps x
A sign of arrogance is the assumption that I am lying whilst expecting me to believe anything you are saying? If people like me didn’t donate their used clothes to charity then you and others wouldn’t have clothes to buy from charity shops. It was quite funny watching you try and fail to take the moral high ground, better luck next time . Night "What a charmer | |||
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"It seems some people have a problem in supporting UK retailers.! Why couldn’t we support UK retailers when we we’re in the EU? Why pay a club membership and not use it? Stop paying membership and train at home
That didn’t answer my question, why didn’t all the leave voters support UK retailers prior to 2016
The thread is about costs, prior to brexit we paid to be in a club, our retailers played same rules, all shops were eu shops, now there are uk shops and eu shops. So support uk shops
Brexit Britain where you now have to buy sub standard expensive British goods or go to charity shops as the EU equivalent is now too expensive.
So you agree the point then but now want to argue British goods are substandard, are they? Really? No they aren't.
Buy a British coat, support the minimum wage, instead of sweat shops and keep your cloths longer
A British coat? So I now have to buy a product from the UK because the one I prefer from the EU is too expensive ? And how does buying from charity shops help the UKs economy? I will continue to buy products that I want rather than where they are from and last time I checked Italian made clothes don’t use sweat shops
You keep changing tact, we voted, we left the Eu club, buy outside the eu or don't.
I won’t, I will continue to buy the products I want from where I want, if it costs more than that’s fine . You can buy British or from the charity shop if you want,
Yes, I will be supporting local businesses and recycling to help the planet and you will continue with mindless commercialism regardless of cost. Well done you
Personal preference, and here is something you haven’t considered or realised , I give all my old clothes to charity shops. Well done me
You say that now lol and how do you know I hadnt considered it? You don't, more public assumptions! A sign of arrogance im sorry to say, you've lost credibility and been designated a hindsight poster, a late counter puncher, a prancing poodle.... some retail therapy might help? Night hun, another day perhaps x
A sign of arrogance is the assumption that I am lying whilst expecting me to believe anything you are saying? If people like me didn’t donate their used clothes to charity then you and others wouldn’t have clothes to buy from charity shops. It was quite funny watching you try and fail to take the moral high ground, better luck next time . Night "morning sweet, i didnt assume you were lying, who said that! i just pointed out you made the statement late in the day, if boris had done the same what would you think? and oh my god would i be seen dead in anything you would buy! come on darling! lol ok that is me making assumptions lol hope thats left you with at least a bit of a smile? | |||
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"It seems some people have a problem in supporting UK retailers.! Why couldn’t we support UK retailers when we we’re in the EU? Why pay a club membership and not use it? Stop paying membership and train at home
That didn’t answer my question, why didn’t all the leave voters support UK retailers prior to 2016
The thread is about costs, prior to brexit we paid to be in a club, our retailers played same rules, all shops were eu shops, now there are uk shops and eu shops. So support uk shops
Brexit Britain where you now have to buy sub standard expensive British goods or go to charity shops as the EU equivalent is now too expensive.
So you agree the point then but now want to argue British goods are substandard, are they? Really? No they aren't.
Buy a British coat, support the minimum wage, instead of sweat shops and keep your cloths longer
A British coat? So I now have to buy a product from the UK because the one I prefer from the EU is too expensive ? And how does buying from charity shops help the UKs economy? I will continue to buy products that I want rather than where they are from and last time I checked Italian made clothes don’t use sweat shops
You keep changing tact, we voted, we left the Eu club, buy outside the eu or don't.
I won’t, I will continue to buy the products I want from where I want, if it costs more than that’s fine . You can buy British or from the charity shop if you want,
Yes, I will be supporting local businesses and recycling to help the planet and you will continue with mindless commercialism regardless of cost. Well done you
Personal preference, and here is something you haven’t considered or realised , I give all my old clothes to charity shops. Well done me
You say that now lol and how do you know I hadnt considered it? You don't, more public assumptions! A sign of arrogance im sorry to say, you've lost credibility and been designated a hindsight poster, a late counter puncher, a prancing poodle.... some retail therapy might help? Night hun, another day perhaps x
A sign of arrogance is the assumption that I am lying whilst expecting me to believe anything you are saying? If people like me didn’t donate their used clothes to charity then you and others wouldn’t have clothes to buy from charity shops. It was quite funny watching you try and fail to take the moral high ground, better luck next time . Night
morning sweet, i didnt assume you were lying, who said that! i just pointed out you made the statement late in the day, if boris had done the same what would you think? and oh my god would i be seen dead in anything you would buy! come on darling! lol ok that is me making assumptions lol hope thats left you with at least a bit of a smile? "That’s true, I doubt my clothes would fit you | |||
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"Import costs are not new and people should have been well aware of them in advance of this" I work for a company that exports 80% outside the UK, what are export and import costs, shipping rate is just that, duty is just that, VAT is just that, handling charge is just that. There is a lot of profiteering going on at the moment. Use a global courier and suddenly the costs are sensible. We might have left the EU, we were told to get ready, it was not hard, some of it retailers should have been doing it anyway. A correctly labelled parcel going to the EU should be treated the same as a parcel that arrives in the EU from the US. At the moment this is not happening, the EU were either not ready or being unhelpful. It also highlighted a problem in a not so united EU, if a lorry uses French point of entry it has to have certain paperwork, for Spain different paperwork to France, so much for 27 United States. On the 1st July it all changes,if you sell into EU then VAT of the parcel destination must be collected at the point of sale, this will apply for parcels worth less than E135.00. This is just like sending items to NZ from the UK, nothing new and not a Brexit thing, but introduced to ensure VAT is collected on sales from the likes of Ebay and Alibaba type shops. Shipping agents will be responsible for the VAT transfer to each destination. If the EU cannot manage now then 1st July it will be mayhem for them. | |||
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"https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/23/brexit-hit-firms-advised-government-officials-set-up-shop-in-eu" Not surprised by this. | |||
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"Import costs are not new and people should have been well aware of them in advance of this I work for a company that exports 80% outside the UK, what are export and import costs, shipping rate is just that, duty is just that, VAT is just that, handling charge is just that. There is a lot of profiteering going on at the moment. Use a global courier and suddenly the costs are sensible. We might have left the EU, we were told to get ready, it was not hard, some of it retailers should have been doing it anyway. A correctly labelled parcel going to the EU should be treated the same as a parcel that arrives in the EU from the US. At the moment this is not happening, the EU were either not ready or being unhelpful. It also highlighted a problem in a not so united EU, if a lorry uses French point of entry it has to have certain paperwork, for Spain different paperwork to France, so much for 27 United States. On the 1st July it all changes,if you sell into EU then VAT of the parcel destination must be collected at the point of sale, this will apply for parcels worth less than E135.00. This is just like sending items to NZ from the UK, nothing new and not a Brexit thing, but introduced to ensure VAT is collected on sales from the likes of Ebay and Alibaba type shops. Shipping agents will be responsible for the VAT transfer to each destination. If the EU cannot manage now then 1st July it will be mayhem for them. " It will be mayhem for us mostly and hurt business. I don’t have experience of small exports so can’t comment. The U.K. authorities can’t manage customs so blaming the EU is a bit kettle and pot! We export worldwide but transit documentation for the FTLs to the EU is only delayed by the UK customs offices . No one else. Ridiculous delays resulting in high demurrage charges . We’ve stopped two self drive routes this week as the costs are just getting silly. Our knowledge of customs costs is fine even though it’s now reduced profits on European business and put us at a disadvantage to EU suppliers, however the staggering incompetence of the customs process we could never have planned for. Hauliers are warning us they may stop coming to the U.K. permanently if it continues. I keep hearing this everyone should have been ready. The government process was announced on the 24th of December on their website so you had to be looking for it! How can business possibly prepare for that at such short notice and where is the chance of automation ? We have been forced to open offices in The Netherlands and France to by pass our own government’s incompetence . | |||
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"Import costs are not new and people should have been well aware of them in advance of this I work for a company that exports 80% outside the UK, what are export and import costs, shipping rate is just that, duty is just that, VAT is just that, handling charge is just that. There is a lot of profiteering going on at the moment. Use a global courier and suddenly the costs are sensible. We might have left the EU, we were told to get ready, it was not hard, some of it retailers should have been doing it anyway. A correctly labelled parcel going to the EU should be treated the same as a parcel that arrives in the EU from the US. At the moment this is not happening, the EU were either not ready or being unhelpful. It also highlighted a problem in a not so united EU, if a lorry uses French point of entry it has to have certain paperwork, for Spain different paperwork to France, so much for 27 United States. On the 1st July it all changes,if you sell into EU then VAT of the parcel destination must be collected at the point of sale, this will apply for parcels worth less than E135.00. This is just like sending items to NZ from the UK, nothing new and not a Brexit thing, but introduced to ensure VAT is collected on sales from the likes of Ebay and Alibaba type shops. Shipping agents will be responsible for the VAT transfer to each destination. If the EU cannot manage now then 1st July it will be mayhem for them. It will be mayhem for us mostly and hurt business. I don’t have experience of small exports so can’t comment. The U.K. authorities can’t manage customs so blaming the EU is a bit kettle and pot! We export worldwide but transit documentation for the FTLs to the EU is only delayed by the UK customs offices . No one else. Ridiculous delays resulting in high demurrage charges . We’ve stopped two self drive routes this week as the costs are just getting silly. Our knowledge of customs costs is fine even though it’s now reduced profits on European business and put us at a disadvantage to EU suppliers, however the staggering incompetence of the customs process we could never have planned for. Hauliers are warning us they may stop coming to the U.K. permanently if it continues. I keep hearing this everyone should have been ready. The government process was announced on the 24th of December on their website so you had to be looking for it! How can business possibly prepare for that at such short notice and where is the chance of automation ? We have been forced to open offices in The Netherlands and France to by pass our own government’s incompetence . " Yet more reason to have cracked on with Brexit five years ago. Remainers have a lot to answer for. | |||
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"Import costs are not new and people should have been well aware of them in advance of this I work for a company that exports 80% outside the UK, what are export and import costs, shipping rate is just that, duty is just that, VAT is just that, handling charge is just that. There is a lot of profiteering going on at the moment. Use a global courier and suddenly the costs are sensible. We might have left the EU, we were told to get ready, it was not hard, some of it retailers should have been doing it anyway. A correctly labelled parcel going to the EU should be treated the same as a parcel that arrives in the EU from the US. At the moment this is not happening, the EU were either not ready or being unhelpful. It also highlighted a problem in a not so united EU, if a lorry uses French point of entry it has to have certain paperwork, for Spain different paperwork to France, so much for 27 United States. On the 1st July it all changes,if you sell into EU then VAT of the parcel destination must be collected at the point of sale, this will apply for parcels worth less than E135.00. This is just like sending items to NZ from the UK, nothing new and not a Brexit thing, but introduced to ensure VAT is collected on sales from the likes of Ebay and Alibaba type shops. Shipping agents will be responsible for the VAT transfer to each destination. If the EU cannot manage now then 1st July it will be mayhem for them. It will be mayhem for us mostly and hurt business. I don’t have experience of small exports so can’t comment. The U.K. authorities can’t manage customs so blaming the EU is a bit kettle and pot! We export worldwide but transit documentation for the FTLs to the EU is only delayed by the UK customs offices . No one else. Ridiculous delays resulting in high demurrage charges . We’ve stopped two self drive routes this week as the costs are just getting silly. Our knowledge of customs costs is fine even though it’s now reduced profits on European business and put us at a disadvantage to EU suppliers, however the staggering incompetence of the customs process we could never have planned for. Hauliers are warning us they may stop coming to the U.K. permanently if it continues. I keep hearing this everyone should have been ready. The government process was announced on the 24th of December on their website so you had to be looking for it! How can business possibly prepare for that at such short notice and where is the chance of automation ? We have been forced to open offices in The Netherlands and France to by pass our own government’s incompetence . Yet more reason to have cracked on with Brexit five years ago. Remainers have a lot to answer for." Why did it take so long ? Easiest deal in history? We hold all the cards? They need us more than we need them? | |||
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"Import costs are not new and people should have been well aware of them in advance of this I work for a company that exports 80% outside the UK, what are export and import costs, shipping rate is just that, duty is just that, VAT is just that, handling charge is just that. There is a lot of profiteering going on at the moment. Use a global courier and suddenly the costs are sensible. We might have left the EU, we were told to get ready, it was not hard, some of it retailers should have been doing it anyway. A correctly labelled parcel going to the EU should be treated the same as a parcel that arrives in the EU from the US. At the moment this is not happening, the EU were either not ready or being unhelpful. It also highlighted a problem in a not so united EU, if a lorry uses French point of entry it has to have certain paperwork, for Spain different paperwork to France, so much for 27 United States. On the 1st July it all changes,if you sell into EU then VAT of the parcel destination must be collected at the point of sale, this will apply for parcels worth less than E135.00. This is just like sending items to NZ from the UK, nothing new and not a Brexit thing, but introduced to ensure VAT is collected on sales from the likes of Ebay and Alibaba type shops. Shipping agents will be responsible for the VAT transfer to each destination. If the EU cannot manage now then 1st July it will be mayhem for them. It will be mayhem for us mostly and hurt business. I don’t have experience of small exports so can’t comment. The U.K. authorities can’t manage customs so blaming the EU is a bit kettle and pot! We export worldwide but transit documentation for the FTLs to the EU is only delayed by the UK customs offices . No one else. Ridiculous delays resulting in high demurrage charges . We’ve stopped two self drive routes this week as the costs are just getting silly. Our knowledge of customs costs is fine even though it’s now reduced profits on European business and put us at a disadvantage to EU suppliers, however the staggering incompetence of the customs process we could never have planned for. Hauliers are warning us they may stop coming to the U.K. permanently if it continues. I keep hearing this everyone should have been ready. The government process was announced on the 24th of December on their website so you had to be looking for it! How can business possibly prepare for that at such short notice and where is the chance of automation ? We have been forced to open offices in The Netherlands and France to by pass our own government’s incompetence . Yet more reason to have cracked on with Brexit five years ago. Remainers have a lot to answer for. Why did it take so long ? Easiest deal in history? We hold all the cards? They need us more than we need them? " Gina Miller, Theresa May, Michael Gove, shrieking hysterics with no self belief. That the British Empire reached that low point of being scared by the mouse of Brussels is a scar on our national conscious. | |||
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"Import costs are not new and people should have been well aware of them in advance of this I work for a company that exports 80% outside the UK, what are export and import costs, shipping rate is just that, duty is just that, VAT is just that, handling charge is just that. There is a lot of profiteering going on at the moment. Use a global courier and suddenly the costs are sensible. We might have left the EU, we were told to get ready, it was not hard, some of it retailers should have been doing it anyway. A correctly labelled parcel going to the EU should be treated the same as a parcel that arrives in the EU from the US. At the moment this is not happening, the EU were either not ready or being unhelpful. It also highlighted a problem in a not so united EU, if a lorry uses French point of entry it has to have certain paperwork, for Spain different paperwork to France, so much for 27 United States. On the 1st July it all changes,if you sell into EU then VAT of the parcel destination must be collected at the point of sale, this will apply for parcels worth less than E135.00. This is just like sending items to NZ from the UK, nothing new and not a Brexit thing, but introduced to ensure VAT is collected on sales from the likes of Ebay and Alibaba type shops. Shipping agents will be responsible for the VAT transfer to each destination. If the EU cannot manage now then 1st July it will be mayhem for them. It will be mayhem for us mostly and hurt business. I don’t have experience of small exports so can’t comment. The U.K. authorities can’t manage customs so blaming the EU is a bit kettle and pot! We export worldwide but transit documentation for the FTLs to the EU is only delayed by the UK customs offices . No one else. Ridiculous delays resulting in high demurrage charges . We’ve stopped two self drive routes this week as the costs are just getting silly. Our knowledge of customs costs is fine even though it’s now reduced profits on European business and put us at a disadvantage to EU suppliers, however the staggering incompetence of the customs process we could never have planned for. Hauliers are warning us they may stop coming to the U.K. permanently if it continues. I keep hearing this everyone should have been ready. The government process was announced on the 24th of December on their website so you had to be looking for it! How can business possibly prepare for that at such short notice and where is the chance of automation ? We have been forced to open offices in The Netherlands and France to by pass our own government’s incompetence . Yet more reason to have cracked on with Brexit five years ago. Remainers have a lot to answer for. Why did it take so long ? Easiest deal in history? We hold all the cards? They need us more than we need them? Gina Miller, Theresa May, Michael Gove, shrieking hysterics with no self belief. That the British Empire reached that low point of being scared by the mouse of Brussels is a scar on our national conscious. " What British Empire? You forget to lay some of the blame with Boris, JRM, The ERG, Farage, The Brexit party, UKIP, Dominic Cummings, Katie Hopkins, Tommy Robinson, | |||
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"Import costs are not new and people should have been well aware of them in advance of this I work for a company that exports 80% outside the UK, what are export and import costs, shipping rate is just that, duty is just that, VAT is just that, handling charge is just that. There is a lot of profiteering going on at the moment. Use a global courier and suddenly the costs are sensible. We might have left the EU, we were told to get ready, it was not hard, some of it retailers should have been doing it anyway. A correctly labelled parcel going to the EU should be treated the same as a parcel that arrives in the EU from the US. At the moment this is not happening, the EU were either not ready or being unhelpful. It also highlighted a problem in a not so united EU, if a lorry uses French point of entry it has to have certain paperwork, for Spain different paperwork to France, so much for 27 United States. On the 1st July it all changes,if you sell into EU then VAT of the parcel destination must be collected at the point of sale, this will apply for parcels worth less than E135.00. This is just like sending items to NZ from the UK, nothing new and not a Brexit thing, but introduced to ensure VAT is collected on sales from the likes of Ebay and Alibaba type shops. Shipping agents will be responsible for the VAT transfer to each destination. If the EU cannot manage now then 1st July it will be mayhem for them. It will be mayhem for us mostly and hurt business. I don’t have experience of small exports so can’t comment. The U.K. authorities can’t manage customs so blaming the EU is a bit kettle and pot! We export worldwide but transit documentation for the FTLs to the EU is only delayed by the UK customs offices . No one else. Ridiculous delays resulting in high demurrage charges . We’ve stopped two self drive routes this week as the costs are just getting silly. Our knowledge of customs costs is fine even though it’s now reduced profits on European business and put us at a disadvantage to EU suppliers, however the staggering incompetence of the customs process we could never have planned for. Hauliers are warning us they may stop coming to the U.K. permanently if it continues. I keep hearing this everyone should have been ready. The government process was announced on the 24th of December on their website so you had to be looking for it! How can business possibly prepare for that at such short notice and where is the chance of automation ? We have been forced to open offices in The Netherlands and France to by pass our own government’s incompetence . " Reports that the advice being given by government advisors over the delays and extra costs is for UK firms to open offices in the EU.. Another brexit bonus albeit ironic.. | |||
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"Import costs are not new and people should have been well aware of them in advance of this I work for a company that exports 80% outside the UK, what are export and import costs, shipping rate is just that, duty is just that, VAT is just that, handling charge is just that. There is a lot of profiteering going on at the moment. Use a global courier and suddenly the costs are sensible. We might have left the EU, we were told to get ready, it was not hard, some of it retailers should have been doing it anyway. A correctly labelled parcel going to the EU should be treated the same as a parcel that arrives in the EU from the US. At the moment this is not happening, the EU were either not ready or being unhelpful. It also highlighted a problem in a not so united EU, if a lorry uses French point of entry it has to have certain paperwork, for Spain different paperwork to France, so much for 27 United States. On the 1st July it all changes,if you sell into EU then VAT of the parcel destination must be collected at the point of sale, this will apply for parcels worth less than E135.00. This is just like sending items to NZ from the UK, nothing new and not a Brexit thing, but introduced to ensure VAT is collected on sales from the likes of Ebay and Alibaba type shops. Shipping agents will be responsible for the VAT transfer to each destination. If the EU cannot manage now then 1st July it will be mayhem for them. It will be mayhem for us mostly and hurt business. I don’t have experience of small exports so can’t comment. The U.K. authorities can’t manage customs so blaming the EU is a bit kettle and pot! We export worldwide but transit documentation for the FTLs to the EU is only delayed by the UK customs offices . No one else. Ridiculous delays resulting in high demurrage charges . We’ve stopped two self drive routes this week as the costs are just getting silly. Our knowledge of customs costs is fine even though it’s now reduced profits on European business and put us at a disadvantage to EU suppliers, however the staggering incompetence of the customs process we could never have planned for. Hauliers are warning us they may stop coming to the U.K. permanently if it continues. I keep hearing this everyone should have been ready. The government process was announced on the 24th of December on their website so you had to be looking for it! How can business possibly prepare for that at such short notice and where is the chance of automation ? We have been forced to open offices in The Netherlands and France to by pass our own government’s incompetence . Reports that the advice being given by government advisors over the delays and extra costs is for UK firms to open offices in the EU.. Another brexit bonus albeit ironic.." Not government advisors | |||
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"Import costs are not new and people should have been well aware of them in advance of this I work for a company that exports 80% outside the UK, what are export and import costs, shipping rate is just that, duty is just that, VAT is just that, handling charge is just that. There is a lot of profiteering going on at the moment. Use a global courier and suddenly the costs are sensible. We might have left the EU, we were told to get ready, it was not hard, some of it retailers should have been doing it anyway. A correctly labelled parcel going to the EU should be treated the same as a parcel that arrives in the EU from the US. At the moment this is not happening, the EU were either not ready or being unhelpful. It also highlighted a problem in a not so united EU, if a lorry uses French point of entry it has to have certain paperwork, for Spain different paperwork to France, so much for 27 United States. On the 1st July it all changes,if you sell into EU then VAT of the parcel destination must be collected at the point of sale, this will apply for parcels worth less than E135.00. This is just like sending items to NZ from the UK, nothing new and not a Brexit thing, but introduced to ensure VAT is collected on sales from the likes of Ebay and Alibaba type shops. Shipping agents will be responsible for the VAT transfer to each destination. If the EU cannot manage now then 1st July it will be mayhem for them. It will be mayhem for us mostly and hurt business. I don’t have experience of small exports so can’t comment. The U.K. authorities can’t manage customs so blaming the EU is a bit kettle and pot! We export worldwide but transit documentation for the FTLs to the EU is only delayed by the UK customs offices . No one else. Ridiculous delays resulting in high demurrage charges . We’ve stopped two self drive routes this week as the costs are just getting silly. Our knowledge of customs costs is fine even though it’s now reduced profits on European business and put us at a disadvantage to EU suppliers, however the staggering incompetence of the customs process we could never have planned for. Hauliers are warning us they may stop coming to the U.K. permanently if it continues. I keep hearing this everyone should have been ready. The government process was announced on the 24th of December on their website so you had to be looking for it! How can business possibly prepare for that at such short notice and where is the chance of automation ? We have been forced to open offices in The Netherlands and France to by pass our own government’s incompetence . Reports that the advice being given by government advisors over the delays and extra costs is for UK firms to open offices in the EU.. Another brexit bonus albeit ironic.. Not government advisors " Department for international trade, according to the report.. Observer front page.. And as other posters with direct real time knowledge have already said it's what is happening in some larger companies already.. Is that what was meant by taking back control etc? | |||
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"Import costs are not new and people should have been well aware of them in advance of this I work for a company that exports 80% outside the UK, what are export and import costs, shipping rate is just that, duty is just that, VAT is just that, handling charge is just that. There is a lot of profiteering going on at the moment. Use a global courier and suddenly the costs are sensible. We might have left the EU, we were told to get ready, it was not hard, some of it retailers should have been doing it anyway. A correctly labelled parcel going to the EU should be treated the same as a parcel that arrives in the EU from the US. At the moment this is not happening, the EU were either not ready or being unhelpful. It also highlighted a problem in a not so united EU, if a lorry uses French point of entry it has to have certain paperwork, for Spain different paperwork to France, so much for 27 United States. On the 1st July it all changes,if you sell into EU then VAT of the parcel destination must be collected at the point of sale, this will apply for parcels worth less than E135.00. This is just like sending items to NZ from the UK, nothing new and not a Brexit thing, but introduced to ensure VAT is collected on sales from the likes of Ebay and Alibaba type shops. Shipping agents will be responsible for the VAT transfer to each destination. If the EU cannot manage now then 1st July it will be mayhem for them. It will be mayhem for us mostly and hurt business. I don’t have experience of small exports so can’t comment. The U.K. authorities can’t manage customs so blaming the EU is a bit kettle and pot! We export worldwide but transit documentation for the FTLs to the EU is only delayed by the UK customs offices . No one else. Ridiculous delays resulting in high demurrage charges . We’ve stopped two self drive routes this week as the costs are just getting silly. Our knowledge of customs costs is fine even though it’s now reduced profits on European business and put us at a disadvantage to EU suppliers, however the staggering incompetence of the customs process we could never have planned for. Hauliers are warning us they may stop coming to the U.K. permanently if it continues. I keep hearing this everyone should have been ready. The government process was announced on the 24th of December on their website so you had to be looking for it! How can business possibly prepare for that at such short notice and where is the chance of automation ? We have been forced to open offices in The Netherlands and France to by pass our own government’s incompetence . Reports that the advice being given by government advisors over the delays and extra costs is for UK firms to open offices in the EU.. Another brexit bonus albeit ironic.. Not government advisors Department for international trade, according to the report.. Observer front page.. And as other posters with direct real time knowledge have already said it's what is happening in some larger companies already.. Is that what was meant by taking back control etc? " The DIT trade advisors are part of the regional offices who are there to help, advise and support businesses and companies in their region with exporting primarily, but also with expanding business and opening new markets overseas. Targets to meet in terms of getting businesses in the region signed up to services offered by DIT (trade missions, overseas market studies etc) Used to be called UKTI when I knew a few of these trade advisors, and had some contact with them - most of the time they were people who had some business experience, and there are some very good knowledgable people who are excellent, however a lot of the time they couldn't help with specific information and would signpost you to external information. most of the time were more concerned with “ticking boxes”. That's why I'm not surprised by the piece in the Observer. Employed by the local DIT offices they are - like a person employed by hmrc to process tax returns is. | |||
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"Import costs are not new and people should have been well aware of them in advance of this I work for a company that exports 80% outside the UK, what are export and import costs, shipping rate is just that, duty is just that, VAT is just that, handling charge is just that. There is a lot of profiteering going on at the moment. Use a global courier and suddenly the costs are sensible. We might have left the EU, we were told to get ready, it was not hard, some of it retailers should have been doing it anyway. A correctly labelled parcel going to the EU should be treated the same as a parcel that arrives in the EU from the US. At the moment this is not happening, the EU were either not ready or being unhelpful. It also highlighted a problem in a not so united EU, if a lorry uses French point of entry it has to have certain paperwork, for Spain different paperwork to France, so much for 27 United States. On the 1st July it all changes,if you sell into EU then VAT of the parcel destination must be collected at the point of sale, this will apply for parcels worth less than E135.00. This is just like sending items to NZ from the UK, nothing new and not a Brexit thing, but introduced to ensure VAT is collected on sales from the likes of Ebay and Alibaba type shops. Shipping agents will be responsible for the VAT transfer to each destination. If the EU cannot manage now then 1st July it will be mayhem for them. It will be mayhem for us mostly and hurt business. I don’t have experience of small exports so can’t comment. The U.K. authorities can’t manage customs so blaming the EU is a bit kettle and pot! We export worldwide but transit documentation for the FTLs to the EU is only delayed by the UK customs offices . No one else. Ridiculous delays resulting in high demurrage charges . We’ve stopped two self drive routes this week as the costs are just getting silly. Our knowledge of customs costs is fine even though it’s now reduced profits on European business and put us at a disadvantage to EU suppliers, however the staggering incompetence of the customs process we could never have planned for. Hauliers are warning us they may stop coming to the U.K. permanently if it continues. I keep hearing this everyone should have been ready. The government process was announced on the 24th of December on their website so you had to be looking for it! How can business possibly prepare for that at such short notice and where is the chance of automation ? We have been forced to open offices in The Netherlands and France to by pass our own government’s incompetence . Reports that the advice being given by government advisors over the delays and extra costs is for UK firms to open offices in the EU.. Another brexit bonus albeit ironic.. Not government advisors Department for international trade, according to the report.. Observer front page.. And as other posters with direct real time knowledge have already said it's what is happening in some larger companies already.. Is that what was meant by taking back control etc? The DIT trade advisors are part of the regional offices who are there to help, advise and support businesses and companies in their region with exporting primarily, but also with expanding business and opening new markets overseas. Targets to meet in terms of getting businesses in the region signed up to services offered by DIT (trade missions, overseas market studies etc) Used to be called UKTI when I knew a few of these trade advisors, and had some contact with them - most of the time they were people who had some business experience, and there are some very good knowledgable people who are excellent, however a lot of the time they couldn't help with specific information and would signpost you to external information. most of the time were more concerned with “ticking boxes”. That's why I'm not surprised by the piece in the Observer. Employed by the local DIT offices they are - like a person employed by hmrc to process tax returns is." Spin? | |||
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"Import costs are not new and people should have been well aware of them in advance of this I work for a company that exports 80% outside the UK, what are export and import costs, shipping rate is just that, duty is just that, VAT is just that, handling charge is just that. There is a lot of profiteering going on at the moment. Use a global courier and suddenly the costs are sensible. We might have left the EU, we were told to get ready, it was not hard, some of it retailers should have been doing it anyway. A correctly labelled parcel going to the EU should be treated the same as a parcel that arrives in the EU from the US. At the moment this is not happening, the EU were either not ready or being unhelpful. It also highlighted a problem in a not so united EU, if a lorry uses French point of entry it has to have certain paperwork, for Spain different paperwork to France, so much for 27 United States. On the 1st July it all changes,if you sell into EU then VAT of the parcel destination must be collected at the point of sale, this will apply for parcels worth less than E135.00. This is just like sending items to NZ from the UK, nothing new and not a Brexit thing, but introduced to ensure VAT is collected on sales from the likes of Ebay and Alibaba type shops. Shipping agents will be responsible for the VAT transfer to each destination. If the EU cannot manage now then 1st July it will be mayhem for them. It will be mayhem for us mostly and hurt business. I don’t have experience of small exports so can’t comment. The U.K. authorities can’t manage customs so blaming the EU is a bit kettle and pot! We export worldwide but transit documentation for the FTLs to the EU is only delayed by the UK customs offices . No one else. Ridiculous delays resulting in high demurrage charges . We’ve stopped two self drive routes this week as the costs are just getting silly. Our knowledge of customs costs is fine even though it’s now reduced profits on European business and put us at a disadvantage to EU suppliers, however the staggering incompetence of the customs process we could never have planned for. Hauliers are warning us they may stop coming to the U.K. permanently if it continues. I keep hearing this everyone should have been ready. The government process was announced on the 24th of December on their website so you had to be looking for it! How can business possibly prepare for that at such short notice and where is the chance of automation ? We have been forced to open offices in The Netherlands and France to by pass our own government’s incompetence . Reports that the advice being given by government advisors over the delays and extra costs is for UK firms to open offices in the EU.. Another brexit bonus albeit ironic.. Not government advisors Department for international trade, according to the report.. Observer front page.. And as other posters with direct real time knowledge have already said it's what is happening in some larger companies already.. Is that what was meant by taking back control etc? The DIT trade advisors are part of the regional offices who are there to help, advise and support businesses and companies in their region with exporting primarily, but also with expanding business and opening new markets overseas. Targets to meet in terms of getting businesses in the region signed up to services offered by DIT (trade missions, overseas market studies etc) Used to be called UKTI when I knew a few of these trade advisors, and had some contact with them - most of the time they were people who had some business experience, and there are some very good knowledgable people who are excellent, however a lot of the time they couldn't help with specific information and would signpost you to external information. most of the time were more concerned with “ticking boxes”. That's why I'm not surprised by the piece in the Observer. Employed by the local DIT offices they are - like a person employed by hmrc to process tax returns is. Spin? "Context  | |||
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"Import costs are not new and people should have been well aware of them in advance of this I work for a company that exports 80% outside the UK, what are export and import costs, shipping rate is just that, duty is just that, VAT is just that, handling charge is just that. There is a lot of profiteering going on at the moment. Use a global courier and suddenly the costs are sensible. We might have left the EU, we were told to get ready, it was not hard, some of it retailers should have been doing it anyway. A correctly labelled parcel going to the EU should be treated the same as a parcel that arrives in the EU from the US. At the moment this is not happening, the EU were either not ready or being unhelpful. It also highlighted a problem in a not so united EU, if a lorry uses French point of entry it has to have certain paperwork, for Spain different paperwork to France, so much for 27 United States. On the 1st July it all changes,if you sell into EU then VAT of the parcel destination must be collected at the point of sale, this will apply for parcels worth less than E135.00. This is just like sending items to NZ from the UK, nothing new and not a Brexit thing, but introduced to ensure VAT is collected on sales from the likes of Ebay and Alibaba type shops. Shipping agents will be responsible for the VAT transfer to each destination. If the EU cannot manage now then 1st July it will be mayhem for them. It will be mayhem for us mostly and hurt business. I don’t have experience of small exports so can’t comment. The U.K. authorities can’t manage customs so blaming the EU is a bit kettle and pot! We export worldwide but transit documentation for the FTLs to the EU is only delayed by the UK customs offices . No one else. Ridiculous delays resulting in high demurrage charges . We’ve stopped two self drive routes this week as the costs are just getting silly. Our knowledge of customs costs is fine even though it’s now reduced profits on European business and put us at a disadvantage to EU suppliers, however the staggering incompetence of the customs process we could never have planned for. Hauliers are warning us they may stop coming to the U.K. permanently if it continues. I keep hearing this everyone should have been ready. The government process was announced on the 24th of December on their website so you had to be looking for it! How can business possibly prepare for that at such short notice and where is the chance of automation ? We have been forced to open offices in The Netherlands and France to by pass our own government’s incompetence . Reports that the advice being given by government advisors over the delays and extra costs is for UK firms to open offices in the EU.. Another brexit bonus albeit ironic.. Not government advisors Department for international trade, according to the report.. Observer front page.. And as other posters with direct real time knowledge have already said it's what is happening in some larger companies already.. Is that what was meant by taking back control etc? The DIT trade advisors are part of the regional offices who are there to help, advise and support businesses and companies in their region with exporting primarily, but also with expanding business and opening new markets overseas. Targets to meet in terms of getting businesses in the region signed up to services offered by DIT (trade missions, overseas market studies etc) Used to be called UKTI when I knew a few of these trade advisors, and had some contact with them - most of the time they were people who had some business experience, and there are some very good knowledgable people who are excellent, however a lot of the time they couldn't help with specific information and would signpost you to external information. most of the time were more concerned with “ticking boxes”. That's why I'm not surprised by the piece in the Observer. Employed by the local DIT offices they are - like a person employed by hmrc to process tax returns is. Spin?
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"Import costs are not new and people should have been well aware of them in advance of this I work for a company that exports 80% outside the UK, what are export and import costs, shipping rate is just that, duty is just that, VAT is just that, handling charge is just that. There is a lot of profiteering going on at the moment. Use a global courier and suddenly the costs are sensible. We might have left the EU, we were told to get ready, it was not hard, some of it retailers should have been doing it anyway. A correctly labelled parcel going to the EU should be treated the same as a parcel that arrives in the EU from the US. At the moment this is not happening, the EU were either not ready or being unhelpful. It also highlighted a problem in a not so united EU, if a lorry uses French point of entry it has to have certain paperwork, for Spain different paperwork to France, so much for 27 United States. On the 1st July it all changes,if you sell into EU then VAT of the parcel destination must be collected at the point of sale, this will apply for parcels worth less than E135.00. This is just like sending items to NZ from the UK, nothing new and not a Brexit thing, but introduced to ensure VAT is collected on sales from the likes of Ebay and Alibaba type shops. Shipping agents will be responsible for the VAT transfer to each destination. If the EU cannot manage now then 1st July it will be mayhem for them. It will be mayhem for us mostly and hurt business. I don’t have experience of small exports so can’t comment. The U.K. authorities can’t manage customs so blaming the EU is a bit kettle and pot! We export worldwide but transit documentation for the FTLs to the EU is only delayed by the UK customs offices . No one else. Ridiculous delays resulting in high demurrage charges . We’ve stopped two self drive routes this week as the costs are just getting silly. Our knowledge of customs costs is fine even though it’s now reduced profits on European business and put us at a disadvantage to EU suppliers, however the staggering incompetence of the customs process we could never have planned for. Hauliers are warning us they may stop coming to the U.K. permanently if it continues. I keep hearing this everyone should have been ready. The government process was announced on the 24th of December on their website so you had to be looking for it! How can business possibly prepare for that at such short notice and where is the chance of automation ? We have been forced to open offices in The Netherlands and France to by pass our own government’s incompetence . Yet more reason to have cracked on with Brexit five years ago. Remainers have a lot to answer for." Yes we could have seen companies with five years of costs and watched as some of them go bankrupt. Do you not understand that the payments are mostly going to Europeans in all these extra costs and the registered companies will be paying tax in those countries all a loss for U.K. . | |||
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"Import costs are not new and people should have been well aware of them in advance of this" Dont remember that on the side if a bus! | |||
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"Import costs are not new and people should have been well aware of them in advance of this Dont remember that on the side if a bus!" Yeah I don’t think it would have fit, they are all morons, you really think these so called leaders have an ounce of intelligence between themselves. | |||
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"Import costs are not new and people should have been well aware of them in advance of this" i don't remember paying import costs for items purchased and dispatched from the EU prior to new years day. is this a new thing? | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 She goes on to say that she won't be buying anything from the EU anymore." and/or always check the T&Cs | |||
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"Goodbye Brussels, Hello World." Is this world a different world we previously dealt with through the EU being amalagation of countries with considerably more muscle? Overshore Tax heaven bank account still in place - check...good the oinks can get in with it then | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 And if she’d brought it from America, or Ghana, or Japan, she’d have paid the same duty as from Europe. Seems eminently fair to me. If you want to argue about reducing the overall tax burden, VAT levels etc then I’m all for that. But why on Earth should countries in Europe get special privileges. Ridiculous." So you recommend paying more for purchases as a good thing ? Interesting . We had the same privileges in reverse and as a result were Europe’s leading operator of small online retail companies. That’s leading position is quickly dissolving into oblivion. | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 And if she’d brought it from America, or Ghana, or Japan, she’d have paid the same duty as from Europe. Seems eminently fair to me. If you want to argue about reducing the overall tax burden, VAT levels etc then I’m all for that. But why on Earth should countries in Europe get special privileges. Ridiculous. So you recommend paying more for purchases as a good thing ? Interesting . We had the same privileges in reverse and as a result were Europe’s leading operator of small online retail companies. That’s leading position is quickly dissolving into oblivion. " Nope, I corrected that fallacy a couple of weeks ago. I linked you a report that UK online retailers were now in a much more competitive position because of VAT enforcement since Jan 1st around the world that instantly increased the price of for example ripped off Chinese goods by 20% and gave UK manufacturing a chance. As I say, I’m all for reducing taxation levels, but that’s nothing to do with Brexit. What is to do with Brexit is not letting foreigners tax dodge. | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 And if she’d brought it from America, or Ghana, or Japan, she’d have paid the same duty as from Europe. Seems eminently fair to me. If you want to argue about reducing the overall tax burden, VAT levels etc then I’m all for that. But why on Earth should countries in Europe get special privileges. Ridiculous. So you recommend paying more for purchases as a good thing ? Interesting . We had the same privileges in reverse and as a result were Europe’s leading operator of small online retail companies. That’s leading position is quickly dissolving into oblivion. Nope, I corrected that fallacy a couple of weeks ago. I linked you a report that UK online retailers were now in a much more competitive position because of VAT enforcement since Jan 1st around the world that instantly increased the price of for example ripped off Chinese goods by 20% and gave UK manufacturing a chance. As I say, I’m all for reducing taxation levels, but that’s nothing to do with Brexit. What is to do with Brexit is not letting foreigners tax dodge. " Are you ok with good old British tax dodgers? | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 And if she’d brought it from America, or Ghana, or Japan, she’d have paid the same duty as from Europe. Seems eminently fair to me. If you want to argue about reducing the overall tax burden, VAT levels etc then I’m all for that. But why on Earth should countries in Europe get special privileges. Ridiculous. So you recommend paying more for purchases as a good thing ? Interesting . We had the same privileges in reverse and as a result were Europe’s leading operator of small online retail companies. That’s leading position is quickly dissolving into oblivion. Nope, I corrected that fallacy a couple of weeks ago. I linked you a report that UK online retailers were now in a much more competitive position because of VAT enforcement since Jan 1st around the world that instantly increased the price of for example ripped off Chinese goods by 20% and gave UK manufacturing a chance. As I say, I’m all for reducing taxation levels, but that’s nothing to do with Brexit. What is to do with Brexit is not letting foreigners tax dodge. Are you ok with good old British tax dodgers? "Nope, they all need to be in prison. Not sure who to vote for to make that happen however? | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 And if she’d brought it from America, or Ghana, or Japan, she’d have paid the same duty as from Europe. Seems eminently fair to me. If you want to argue about reducing the overall tax burden, VAT levels etc then I’m all for that. But why on Earth should countries in Europe get special privileges. Ridiculous. So you recommend paying more for purchases as a good thing ? Interesting . We had the same privileges in reverse and as a result were Europe’s leading operator of small online retail companies. That’s leading position is quickly dissolving into oblivion. Nope, I corrected that fallacy a couple of weeks ago. I linked you a report that UK online retailers were now in a much more competitive position because of VAT enforcement since Jan 1st around the world that instantly increased the price of for example ripped off Chinese goods by 20% and gave UK manufacturing a chance. As I say, I’m all for reducing taxation levels, but that’s nothing to do with Brexit. What is to do with Brexit is not letting foreigners tax dodge. Are you ok with good old British tax dodgers?
Nope, they all need to be in prison. Not sure who to vote for to make that happen however?"I think most of the Tax dodgers are Tory supporters, (& Farage) so I would suggest a more left leaning party | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 And if she’d brought it from America, or Ghana, or Japan, she’d have paid the same duty as from Europe. Seems eminently fair to me. If you want to argue about reducing the overall tax burden, VAT levels etc then I’m all for that. But why on Earth should countries in Europe get special privileges. Ridiculous. So you recommend paying more for purchases as a good thing ? Interesting . We had the same privileges in reverse and as a result were Europe’s leading operator of small online retail companies. That’s leading position is quickly dissolving into oblivion. Nope, I corrected that fallacy a couple of weeks ago. I linked you a report that UK online retailers were now in a much more competitive position because of VAT enforcement since Jan 1st around the world that instantly increased the price of for example ripped off Chinese goods by 20% and gave UK manufacturing a chance. As I say, I’m all for reducing taxation levels, but that’s nothing to do with Brexit. What is to do with Brexit is not letting foreigners tax dodge. Are you ok with good old British tax dodgers?
Nope, they all need to be in prison. Not sure who to vote for to make that happen however?"The EU have started going after tax dodgers so if only we were members oh hang on..... Our elite paymasters made sure we were no where near that legislation . The true reason for Brexit in my opinion . | |||
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Nope, they all need to be in prison. Not sure who to vote for to make that happen however?
I think most of the Tax dodgers are Tory supporters, (& Farage) so I would suggest a more left leaning party "That’s good, I’ve never voted Tory or UKIP. Let’s try labour... Oops “New figures at Companies House show that Labour Party Properties Limited, a swanky business venture of 19 buildings across the UK, paid zero pax in 2018 despite profits of nearly £630,000. The Sun reports the last time the venture paid tax was in 2003. The damning news comes after Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell declared war on “tax dodging” just last week.“ Anyone else? | |||
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Nope, they all need to be in prison. Not sure who to vote for to make that happen however?
The EU have started going after tax dodgers so if only we were members oh hang on.....
Our elite paymasters made sure we were no where near that legislation . The true reason for Brexit in my opinion . "Are they booting Amazon out of Luxembourg then? Thought not. | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 And if she’d brought it from America, or Ghana, or Japan, she’d have paid the same duty as from Europe. Seems eminently fair to me. If you want to argue about reducing the overall tax burden, VAT levels etc then I’m all for that. But why on Earth should countries in Europe get special privileges. Ridiculous. So you recommend paying more for purchases as a good thing ? Interesting . We had the same privileges in reverse and as a result were Europe’s leading operator of small online retail companies. That’s leading position is quickly dissolving into oblivion. Nope, I corrected that fallacy a couple of weeks ago. I linked you a report that UK online retailers were now in a much more competitive position because of VAT enforcement since Jan 1st around the world that instantly increased the price of for example ripped off Chinese goods by 20% and gave UK manufacturing a chance. As I say, I’m all for reducing taxation levels, but that’s nothing to do with Brexit. What is to do with Brexit is not letting foreigners tax dodge. Are you ok with good old British tax dodgers?
Nope, they all need to be in prison. Not sure who to vote for to make that happen however?
The EU have started going after tax dodgers so if only we were members oh hang on.....
Our elite paymasters made sure we were no where near that legislation . The true reason for Brexit in my opinion . "Exactly If only they UK companies set up an offshore company in Europe though. OOO thats now goverment advice. Offshore tax heaven tax free account still ok...Check.....the oinks can get on with it then | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 And if she’d brought it from America, or Ghana, or Japan, she’d have paid the same duty as from Europe. Seems eminently fair to me. If you want to argue about reducing the overall tax burden, VAT levels etc then I’m all for that. But why on Earth should countries in Europe get special privileges. Ridiculous. So you recommend paying more for purchases as a good thing ? Interesting . We had the same privileges in reverse and as a result were Europe’s leading operator of small online retail companies. That’s leading position is quickly dissolving into oblivion. Nope, I corrected that fallacy a couple of weeks ago. I linked you a report that UK online retailers were now in a much more competitive position because of VAT enforcement since Jan 1st around the world that instantly increased the price of for example ripped off Chinese goods by 20% and gave UK manufacturing a chance. As I say, I’m all for reducing taxation levels, but that’s nothing to do with Brexit. What is to do with Brexit is not letting foreigners tax dodge. Are you ok with good old British tax dodgers?
Nope, they all need to be in prison. Not sure who to vote for to make that happen however?
The EU have started going after tax dodgers so if only we were members oh hang on.....
Our elite paymasters made sure we were no where near that legislation . The true reason for Brexit in my opinion .
Are they booting Amazon out of Luxembourg then? Thought not."Look into EU taking on Amazon and Google in Ireland and look up EU looking to introduce tax avoidance legislation it’s there and it will include Luxembourg as part of the EU. So yes they will be | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 And if she’d brought it from America, or Ghana, or Japan, she’d have paid the same duty as from Europe. Seems eminently fair to me. If you want to argue about reducing the overall tax burden, VAT levels etc then I’m all for that. But why on Earth should countries in Europe get special privileges. Ridiculous. So you recommend paying more for purchases as a good thing ? Interesting . We had the same privileges in reverse and as a result were Europe’s leading operator of small online retail companies. That’s leading position is quickly dissolving into oblivion. Nope, I corrected that fallacy a couple of weeks ago. I linked you a report that UK online retailers were now in a much more competitive position because of VAT enforcement since Jan 1st around the world that instantly increased the price of for example ripped off Chinese goods by 20% and gave UK manufacturing a chance. As I say, I’m all for reducing taxation levels, but that’s nothing to do with Brexit. What is to do with Brexit is not letting foreigners tax dodge. Are you ok with good old British tax dodgers?
Nope, they all need to be in prison. Not sure who to vote for to make that happen however?
The EU have started going after tax dodgers so if only we were members oh hang on.....
Our elite paymasters made sure we were no where near that legislation . The true reason for Brexit in my opinion .
Exactly
If only they UK companies set up an offshore company in Europe though.
OOO thats now goverment advice.
Offshore tax heaven tax free account still ok...Check.....the oinks can get on with it then "You’re getting yourself confused The EU registration is to avoid customs not tax . The tax will now be paid in Europe not the U.K. but it’s easier to do business with less red tape . | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 And if she’d brought it from America, or Ghana, or Japan, she’d have paid the same duty as from Europe. Seems eminently fair to me. If you want to argue about reducing the overall tax burden, VAT levels etc then I’m all for that. But why on Earth should countries in Europe get special privileges. Ridiculous. So you recommend paying more for purchases as a good thing ? Interesting . We had the same privileges in reverse and as a result were Europe’s leading operator of small online retail companies. That’s leading position is quickly dissolving into oblivion. Nope, I corrected that fallacy a couple of weeks ago. I linked you a report that UK online retailers were now in a much more competitive position because of VAT enforcement since Jan 1st around the world that instantly increased the price of for example ripped off Chinese goods by 20% and gave UK manufacturing a chance. As I say, I’m all for reducing taxation levels, but that’s nothing to do with Brexit. What is to do with Brexit is not letting foreigners tax dodge. Are you ok with good old British tax dodgers?
Nope, they all need to be in prison. Not sure who to vote for to make that happen however?
The EU have started going after tax dodgers so if only we were members oh hang on.....
Our elite paymasters made sure we were no where near that legislation . The true reason for Brexit in my opinion .
Are they booting Amazon out of Luxembourg then? Thought not.
Look into EU taking on Amazon and Google in Ireland and look up EU looking to introduce tax avoidance legislation it’s there and it will include Luxembourg as part of the EU.
So yes they will be "Well I know the headlines go back at least eight or ten years. So have we got a timescale on this yet? | |||
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"Goodbye Brussels, Hello World. Is this world a different world we previously dealt with through the EU being amalagation of countries with considerably more muscle? Overshore Tax heaven bank account still in place - check...good the oinks can get in with it then EU muscle? Brussels hasn’t been to a gym in its life. Hence no US trade deal after thirty years. It’s weak and cantankerous and eats quiche. Ps If you read wikipedia you will note that the actual agreement was well on the way to being signed until Trump came to power and started a trade war. Trump...remember him, used to be on Twitter...he did well on a number of fronts didnt he?
But I thought you said Brussels was powerful?
And it couldn’t stare down the Great Orange Clown?
I did check wiki previously on the negotiations and it didn’t seem like much had even started far as I could see. "The EU is the worlds largest trading bloc, | |||
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"Goodbye Brussels, Hello World. Is this world a different world we previously dealt with through the EU being amalagation of countries with considerably more muscle? Overshore Tax heaven bank account still in place - check...good the oinks can get in with it then EU muscle? Brussels hasn’t been to a gym in its life. Hence no US trade deal after thirty years. It’s weak and cantankerous and eats quiche. Ps If you read wikipedia you will note that the actual agreement was well on the way to being signed until Trump came to power and started a trade war. Trump...remember him, used to be on Twitter...he did well on a number of fronts didnt he?
But I thought you said Brussels was powerful?
And it couldn’t stare down the Great Orange Clown?
I did check wiki previously on the negotiations and it didn’t seem like much had even started far as I could see.
The EU is the worlds largest trading bloc,
"So you say, but when it comes to tariff free, level playing field trading, hard to see much evidence of this? | |||
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"Goodbye Brussels, Hello World. Is this world a different world we previously dealt with through the EU being amalagation of countries with considerably more muscle? Overshore Tax heaven bank account still in place - check...good the oinks can get in with it then EU muscle? Brussels hasn’t been to a gym in its life. Hence no US trade deal after thirty years. It’s weak and cantankerous and eats quiche. Ps If you read wikipedia you will note that the actual agreement was well on the way to being signed until Trump came to power and started a trade war. Trump...remember him, used to be on Twitter...he did well on a number of fronts didnt he?
But I thought you said Brussels was powerful?
And it couldn’t stare down the Great Orange Clown?
I did check wiki previously on the negotiations and it didn’t seem like much had even started far as I could see.
The EU is the worlds largest trading bloc,
So you say, but when it comes to tariff free, level playing field trading, hard to see much evidence of this?"It is a fact, the EU is the largest trading bloc in the world, | |||
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"Goodbye Brussels, Hello World. Is this world a different world we previously dealt with through the EU being amalagation of countries with considerably more muscle? Overshore Tax heaven bank account still in place - check...good the oinks can get in with it then EU muscle? Brussels hasn’t been to a gym in its life. Hence no US trade deal after thirty years. It’s weak and cantankerous and eats quiche. Ps If you read wikipedia you will note that the actual agreement was well on the way to being signed until Trump came to power and started a trade war. Trump...remember him, used to be on Twitter...he did well on a number of fronts didnt he?
But I thought you said Brussels was powerful?
And it couldn’t stare down the Great Orange Clown?
I did check wiki previously on the negotiations and it didn’t seem like much had even started far as I could see.
The EU is the worlds largest trading bloc,
So you say, but when it comes to tariff free, level playing field trading, hard to see much evidence of this?
It is a fact, the EU is the largest trading bloc in the world, "So you keep saying, but that’s a bit like claiming your dog has the most fleas. It’s all about the terms of the deal. | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 And if she’d brought it from America, or Ghana, or Japan, she’d have paid the same duty as from Europe. Seems eminently fair to me. If you want to argue about reducing the overall tax burden, VAT levels etc then I’m all for that. But why on Earth should countries in Europe get special privileges. Ridiculous. So you recommend paying more for purchases as a good thing ? Interesting . We had the same privileges in reverse and as a result were Europe’s leading operator of small online retail companies. That’s leading position is quickly dissolving into oblivion. Nope, I corrected that fallacy a couple of weeks ago. I linked you a report that UK online retailers were now in a much more competitive position because of VAT enforcement since Jan 1st around the world that instantly increased the price of for example ripped off Chinese goods by 20% and gave UK manufacturing a chance. As I say, I’m all for reducing taxation levels, but that’s nothing to do with Brexit. What is to do with Brexit is not letting foreigners tax dodge. Are you ok with good old British tax dodgers?
Nope, they all need to be in prison. Not sure who to vote for to make that happen however?
The EU have started going after tax dodgers so if only we were members oh hang on.....
Our elite paymasters made sure we were no where near that legislation . The true reason for Brexit in my opinion .
Exactly
If only they UK companies set up an offshore company in Europe though.
OOO thats now goverment advice.
Offshore tax heaven tax free account still ok...Check.....the oinks can get on with it then
You’re getting yourself confused
The EU registration is to avoid customs not tax . The tax will now be paid in Europe not the U.K. but it’s easier to do business with less red tape . "
They are/will be closing tax havens, cymen islands etc...thats just fact...
Does the irony that the poor EU Brexit guy who died yesterday (not that I wish anyone dead) list his home address as the Bahamas as his home address where you do not pay tax lost on you .....
Lives in the Bahamas a member of the Brexit farage party....can you see what is right in front of your nose.
Bahamas tax free account still in place...
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"Goodbye Brussels, Hello World. Is this world a different world we previously dealt with through the EU being amalagation of countries with considerably more muscle? Overshore Tax heaven bank account still in place - check...good the oinks can get in with it then EU muscle? Brussels hasn’t been to a gym in its life. Hence no US trade deal after thirty years. It’s weak and cantankerous and eats quiche. Ps If you read wikipedia you will note that the actual agreement was well on the way to being signed until Trump came to power and started a trade war. Trump...remember him, used to be on Twitter...he did well on a number of fronts didnt he?
But I thought you said Brussels was powerful?
And it couldn’t stare down the Great Orange Clown?
I did check wiki previously on the negotiations and it didn’t seem like much had even started far as I could see.
The EU is the worlds largest trading bloc,
So you say, but when it comes to tariff free, level playing field trading, hard to see much evidence of this?
It is a fact, the EU is the largest trading bloc in the world,
So you keep saying, but that’s a bit like claiming your dog has the most fleas. It’s all about the terms of the deal."No it isn’t, once you accept the fact that the EU is the largest trading bloc in the world it will help you understand how ridiculous your statements about them being weak etc are. | |||
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"Goodbye Brussels, Hello World. Is this world a different world we previously dealt with through the EU being amalagation of countries with considerably more muscle? Overshore Tax heaven bank account still in place - check...good the oinks can get in with it then EU muscle? Brussels hasn’t been to a gym in its life. Hence no US trade deal after thirty years. It’s weak and cantankerous and eats quiche. Ps If you read wikipedia you will note that the actual agreement was well on the way to being signed until Trump came to power and started a trade war. Trump...remember him, used to be on Twitter...he did well on a number of fronts didnt he?
But I thought you said Brussels was powerful?
And it couldn’t stare down the Great Orange Clown?
I did check wiki previously on the negotiations and it didn’t seem like much had even started far as I could see.
The EU is the worlds largest trading bloc,
So you say, but when it comes to tariff free, level playing field trading, hard to see much evidence of this?
It is a fact, the EU is the largest trading bloc in the world,
So you keep saying, but that’s a bit like claiming your dog has the most fleas. It’s all about the terms of the deal.
No it isn’t, once you accept the fact that the EU is the largest trading bloc in the world it will help you understand how ridiculous your statements about them being weak etc are. "What like the Roman Empire used to be? It’s meaningless. Brussels is decadent and divided and will fall. | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 And if she’d brought it from America, or Ghana, or Japan, she’d have paid the same duty as from Europe. Seems eminently fair to me. If you want to argue about reducing the overall tax burden, VAT levels etc then I’m all for that. But why on Earth should countries in Europe get special privileges. Ridiculous. So you recommend paying more for purchases as a good thing ? Interesting . We had the same privileges in reverse and as a result were Europe’s leading operator of small online retail companies. That’s leading position is quickly dissolving into oblivion. Nope, I corrected that fallacy a couple of weeks ago. I linked you a report that UK online retailers were now in a much more competitive position because of VAT enforcement since Jan 1st around the world that instantly increased the price of for example ripped off Chinese goods by 20% and gave UK manufacturing a chance. As I say, I’m all for reducing taxation levels, but that’s nothing to do with Brexit. What is to do with Brexit is not letting foreigners tax dodge. Are you ok with good old British tax dodgers?
Nope, they all need to be in prison. Not sure who to vote for to make that happen however?
The EU have started going after tax dodgers so if only we were members oh hang on.....
Our elite paymasters made sure we were no where near that legislation . The true reason for Brexit in my opinion .
Exactly
If only they UK companies set up an offshore company in Europe though.
OOO thats now goverment advice.
Offshore tax heaven tax free account still ok...Check.....the oinks can get on with it then
You’re getting yourself confused
The EU registration is to avoid customs not tax . The tax will now be paid in Europe not the U.K. but it’s easier to do business with less red tape .
They are/will be closing tax havens, cymen islands etc...thats just fact...
Does the irony that the poor EU Brexit guy who died yesterday (not that I wish anyone dead) list his home address as the Bahamas as his home address where you do not pay tax lost on you .....
Lives in the Bahamas a member of the Brexit farage party....can you see what is right in front of your nose.
Bahamas tax free account still in place...
Check...the oinks can pay import duty from a country 30 miles away fought for from a guy 2000 miles away "Nothing to do with Brexit though. We need to vote in untouchable politicians who will eliminate tax havens as I’ve said before. | |||
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"Goodbye Brussels, Hello World. Is this world a different world we previously dealt with through the EU being amalagation of countries with considerably more muscle? Overshore Tax heaven bank account still in place - check...good the oinks can get in with it then EU muscle? Brussels hasn’t been to a gym in its life. Hence no US trade deal after thirty years. It’s weak and cantankerous and eats quiche. Ps If you read wikipedia you will note that the actual agreement was well on the way to being signed until Trump came to power and started a trade war. Trump...remember him, used to be on Twitter...he did well on a number of fronts didnt he?
But I thought you said Brussels was powerful?
And it couldn’t stare down the Great Orange Clown?
I did check wiki previously on the negotiations and it didn’t seem like much had even started far as I could see.
The EU is the worlds largest trading bloc,
So you say, but when it comes to tariff free, level playing field trading, hard to see much evidence of this?
It is a fact, the EU is the largest trading bloc in the world,
So you keep saying, but that’s a bit like claiming your dog has the most fleas. It’s all about the terms of the deal.
No it isn’t, once you accept the fact that the EU is the largest trading bloc in the world it will help you understand how ridiculous your statements about them being weak etc are.
What like the Roman Empire used to be? It’s meaningless. Brussels is decadent and divided and will fall."Just like the British Empire failed? What are you basing this bold prediction on? Anything substantial or is it just a guess? Repeat after me , the EU is the largest trading bloc in the world | |||
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"Goodbye Brussels, Hello World. Is this world a different world we previously dealt with through the EU being amalagation of countries with considerably more muscle? Overshore Tax heaven bank account still in place - check...good the oinks can get in with it then EU muscle? Brussels hasn’t been to a gym in its life. Hence no US trade deal after thirty years. It’s weak and cantankerous and eats quiche. Ps If you read wikipedia you will note that the actual agreement was well on the way to being signed until Trump came to power and started a trade war. Trump...remember him, used to be on Twitter...he did well on a number of fronts didnt he?
But I thought you said Brussels was powerful?
And it couldn’t stare down the Great Orange Clown?
I did check wiki previously on the negotiations and it didn’t seem like much had even started far as I could see.
The EU is the worlds largest trading bloc,
So you say, but when it comes to tariff free, level playing field trading, hard to see much evidence of this?
It is a fact, the EU is the largest trading bloc in the world,
So you keep saying, but that’s a bit like claiming your dog has the most fleas. It’s all about the terms of the deal.
No it isn’t, once you accept the fact that the EU is the largest trading bloc in the world it will help you understand how ridiculous your statements about them being weak etc are.
What like the Roman Empire used to be? It’s meaningless. Brussels is decadent and divided and will fall.
Just like the British Empire failed? What are you basing this bold prediction on? Anything substantial or is it just a guess? Repeat after me , the EU is the largest trading bloc in the world "There are daily demonstrations by the young people of Spain and Italy demanding jobs for all. Denmark is extremely Eurosceptic and others becoming more so. If the French ever have a moderate alternative to vote for rather than NF then they will be next. | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 And if she’d brought it from America, or Ghana, or Japan, she’d have paid the same duty as from Europe. Seems eminently fair to me. If you want to argue about reducing the overall tax burden, VAT levels etc then I’m all for that. But why on Earth should countries in Europe get special privileges. Ridiculous. So you recommend paying more for purchases as a good thing ? Interesting . We had the same privileges in reverse and as a result were Europe’s leading operator of small online retail companies. That’s leading position is quickly dissolving into oblivion. Nope, I corrected that fallacy a couple of weeks ago. I linked you a report that UK online retailers were now in a much more competitive position because of VAT enforcement since Jan 1st around the world that instantly increased the price of for example ripped off Chinese goods by 20% and gave UK manufacturing a chance. As I say, I’m all for reducing taxation levels, but that’s nothing to do with Brexit. What is to do with Brexit is not letting foreigners tax dodge. Are you ok with good old British tax dodgers?
Nope, they all need to be in prison. Not sure who to vote for to make that happen however?
The EU have started going after tax dodgers so if only we were members oh hang on.....
Our elite paymasters made sure we were no where near that legislation . The true reason for Brexit in my opinion .
Are they booting Amazon out of Luxembourg then? Thought not.
Look into EU taking on Amazon and Google in Ireland and look up EU looking to introduce tax avoidance legislation it’s there and it will include Luxembourg as part of the EU.
So yes they will be
Well I know the headlines go back at least eight or ten years. So have we got a timescale on this yet?"U.K. rich have been avoiding tax for a hundred years so gotta start somewhere and seeing as the people most likely to lose out are in charge it’s not going to be quick but it does need doing. If everyone paid their fare share we wouldn’t have schools or hospitals in such a state as we do. That’s got to be good surely? | |||
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But I thought you said Brussels was powerful?
And it couldn’t stare down the Great Orange Clown?
I did check wiki previously on the negotiations and it didn’t seem like much had even started far as I could see.
The EU is the worlds largest trading bloc,
So you say, but when it comes to tariff free, level playing field trading, hard to see much evidence of this?
It is a fact, the EU is the largest trading bloc in the world,
So you keep saying, but that’s a bit like claiming your dog has the most fleas. It’s all about the terms of the deal.
No it isn’t, once you accept the fact that the EU is the largest trading bloc in the world it will help you understand how ridiculous your statements about them being weak etc are.
What like the Roman Empire used to be? It’s meaningless. Brussels is decadent and divided and will fall.
Just like the British Empire failed? What are you basing this bold prediction on? Anything substantial or is it just a guess? Repeat after me , the EU is the largest trading bloc in the world
There are daily demonstrations by the young people of Spain and Italy demanding jobs for all. Denmark is extremely Eurosceptic and others becoming more so. If the French ever have a moderate alternative to vote for rather than NF then they will be next."Denmark is ‘extremely eurosceptic ‘ any stars to back up the spurious claim? Are the young people of Spain and Italy protesting against the EU? And why does it matter to you if the EU fails? Surely it doesn’t matter now we have left? Repeat after me, the EU is the largest trading bloc in the works, fact . | |||
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"People are starting to get surprised of why they are getting charged more. I read this article of a woman who got more of what she bargained for as for the cost of her coat, it costs £200 but with the added brexit tax it was an extra whopping £82, do people really think that it would be the same cost as before brexit? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-55734277 And if she’d brought it from America, or Ghana, or Japan, she’d have paid the same duty as from Europe. Seems eminently fair to me. If you want to argue about reducing the overall tax burden, VAT levels etc then I’m all for that. But why on Earth should countries in Europe get special privileges. Ridiculous. So you recommend paying more for purchases as a good thing ? Interesting . We had the same privileges in reverse and as a result were Europe’s leading operator of small online retail companies. That’s leading position is quickly dissolving into oblivion. Nope, I corrected that fallacy a couple of weeks ago. I linked you a report that UK online retailers were now in a much more competitive position because of VAT enforcement since Jan 1st around the world that instantly increased the price of for example ripped off Chinese goods by 20% and gave UK manufacturing a chance. As I say, I’m all for reducing taxation levels, but that’s nothing to do with Brexit. What is to do with Brexit is not letting foreigners tax dodge. Are you ok with good old British tax dodgers?
Nope, they all need to be in prison. Not sure who to vote for to make that happen however?
The EU have started going after tax dodgers so if only we were members oh hang on.....
Our elite paymasters made sure we were no where near that legislation . The true reason for Brexit in my opinion .
Exactly
If only they UK companies set up an offshore company in Europe though.
OOO thats now goverment advice.
Offshore tax heaven tax free account still ok...Check.....the oinks can get on with it then
You’re getting yourself confused
The EU registration is to avoid customs not tax . The tax will now be paid in Europe not the U.K. but it’s easier to do business with less red tape .
They are/will be closing tax havens, cymen islands etc...thats just fact...
Does the irony that the poor EU Brexit guy who died yesterday (not that I wish anyone dead) list his home address as the Bahamas as his home address where you do not pay tax lost on you .....
Lives in the Bahamas a member of the Brexit farage party....can you see what is right in front of your nose.
Bahamas tax free account still in place...
Check...the oinks can pay import duty from a country 30 miles away fought for from a guy 2000 miles away
Nothing to do with Brexit though. We need to vote in untouchable politicians who will eliminate tax havens as I’ve said before."We did the European Parliament backed it as a policy as they don’t have the same allegiances or influences as our corrupt lot do. . Maybe their generous expenses or left leanings meant they couldn’t be bribed enough! Sadly we’ve missed our chance . | |||
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