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"Seen the film where Sandra is an undercover cop at beauty pagents, wants to say they need tougher gun laws but has to always finish with I love puppies children and want world peace... applause.... felt joe could be an ex beauty contestant, following his speech, was there any meat on the bones? "What did you want him to say ? | |||
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"Seen the film where Sandra is an undercover cop at beauty pagents, wants to say they need tougher gun laws but has to always finish with I love puppies children and want world peace... applause.... felt joe could be an ex beauty contestant, following his speech, was there any meat on the bones? "Nope. Heard it all before | |||
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"Seen the film where Sandra is an undercover cop at beauty pagents, wants to say they need tougher gun laws but has to always finish with I love puppies children and want world peace... applause.... felt joe could be an ex beauty contestant, following his speech, was there any meat on the bones?
What did you want him to say ? "Question followed by question? You want me to write his speech right now? That's 3 questions in a row, let's go for more and make rainbows in a world where we don't need thunder, a brave new world of good not bad, one where we unify and multiply, one where we don't need tougher gun laws lol no applause? Quick Puppies and world peace | |||
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"Seen the film where Sandra is an undercover cop at beauty pagents, wants to say they need tougher gun laws but has to always finish with I love puppies children and want world peace... applause.... felt joe could be an ex beauty contestant, following his speech, was there any meat on the bones? "There was no meat on the bones. Typical politician dross | |||
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"Seen the film where Sandra is an undercover cop at beauty pagents, wants to say they need tougher gun laws but has to always finish with I love puppies children and want world peace... applause.... felt joe could be an ex beauty contestant, following his speech, was there any meat on the bones?
What did you want him to say ?
Question followed by question? You want me to write his speech right now? That's 3 questions in a row, let's go for more and make rainbows in a world where we don't need thunder, a brave new world of good not bad, one where we unify and multiply, one where we don't need tougher gun laws lol no applause? Quick
Puppies and world peace "Yeah, write his speech right now. I agree it was a bit fluffy and cliched but that is what the Americans love | |||
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"Proof is in the doing, not the saying. I will betcha that every job interview you have ever been to you recited the same speech. Not even at the end of day one yet. Give the guy a chance. "Give him a chance after one day..? The usual suspects expect change straight away as proven in other threads | |||
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"Aside from changing the extreme trump policies, hopefully a better covid strategy, nothing will change. Not on the important issues of racism or gun laws." Gun laws are perfectly fine  | |||
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"Aside from changing the extreme trump policies, hopefully a better covid strategy, nothing will change. Not on the important issues of racism or gun laws. Gun laws are perfectly fine "Yeah, perfectly fine , how many gun related deaths do you get in the US? | |||
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"Aside from changing the extreme trump policies, hopefully a better covid strategy, nothing will change. Not on the important issues of racism or gun laws. Gun laws are perfectly fine "And that is the great American sickness. You mostly still believe it's Dodge City circa' 1800's and too many Americans end up in Boot Hill because of your inalienable rights not to be able to talk to each other in a civilised fashion. | |||
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"Anyway, he's gone for his nap now "Yawn. | |||
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"Aside from changing the extreme trump policies, hopefully a better covid strategy, nothing will change. Not on the important issues of racism or gun laws. Gun laws are perfectly fine "Not having first hand experience, I can't argue with you. If you want to own hand guns or hunting rifles, I would suggest that is within your remit, after all that's within reason but military grade weapons in the hands of civilians? Just from the outside looking in, it doesn't seem right. But your country, your way. I defer to your 'on the ground' knowledge. | |||
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"The sun came out when he Biden made his speech, it was raining when Trump did his " lol. | |||
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"Aside from changing the extreme trump policies, hopefully a better covid strategy, nothing will change. Not on the important issues of racism or gun laws. Gun laws are perfectly fine
Not having first hand experience, I can't argue with you.
If you want to own hand guns or hunting rifles, I would suggest that is within your remit, after all that's within reason but military grade weapons in the hands of civilians? Just from the outside looking in, it doesn't seem right.
But your country, your way. I defer to your 'on the ground' knowledge. "Thanks nothing to fear from AR style. They are not military grade. Can't own a military grade weapon. After last year and this year gun sales went through the ceiling people are realizing their rights.No matter your political affiliation. | |||
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"Anyway, he's gone for his nap now
Yawn."Exactly
America a beacon for the world? Deluded | |||
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"Aside from changing the extreme trump policies, hopefully a better covid strategy, nothing will change. Not on the important issues of racism or gun laws. Gun laws are perfectly fine
Not having first hand experience, I can't argue with you.
If you want to own hand guns or hunting rifles, I would suggest that is within your remit, after all that's within reason but military grade weapons in the hands of civilians? Just from the outside looking in, it doesn't seem right.
But your country, your way. I defer to your 'on the ground' knowledge.
Thanks nothing to fear from AR style. They are not military grade. Can't own a military grade weapon. After last year and this year gun sales went through the ceiling people are realizing their rights.No matter your political affiliation."Why are you are too scared to leave your house without a gun ? | |||
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"Aside from changing the extreme trump policies, hopefully a better covid strategy, nothing will change. Not on the important issues of racism or gun laws. Gun laws are perfectly fine
Not having first hand experience, I can't argue with you.
If you want to own hand guns or hunting rifles, I would suggest that is within your remit, after all that's within reason but military grade weapons in the hands of civilians? Just from the outside looking in, it doesn't seem right.
But your country, your way. I defer to your 'on the ground' knowledge.
Thanks nothing to fear from AR style. They are not military grade. Can't own a military grade weapon. After last year and this year gun sales went through the ceiling people are realizing their rights.No matter your political affiliation.
Why are you are too scared to leave your house without a gun ? "Because I had been accosted and robbed. Why are you so scared of them ? | |||
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"Proof is in the doing, not the saying. I will betcha that every job interview you have ever been to you recited the same speech. Not even at the end of day one yet. Give the guy a chance.
Give him a chance after one day..? The usual suspects expect change straight away as proven in other threads"He has already stopped the building of the wall .  | |||
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" There was no meat on the bones. Typical politician dross" He's already done most of that off-stage. He's listed a whole raft of things that will be reversed and pursued. | |||
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"Aside from changing the extreme trump policies, hopefully a better covid strategy, nothing will change. Not on the important issues of racism or gun laws. Gun laws are perfectly fine
Not having first hand experience, I can't argue with you.
If you want to own hand guns or hunting rifles, I would suggest that is within your remit, after all that's within reason but military grade weapons in the hands of civilians? Just from the outside looking in, it doesn't seem right.
But your country, your way. I defer to your 'on the ground' knowledge.
Thanks nothing to fear from AR style. They are not military grade. Can't own a military grade weapon. After last year and this year gun sales went through the ceiling people are realizing their rights.No matter your political affiliation.
Why are you are too scared to leave your house without a gun ?
Because I had been accosted and robbed. Why are you so scared of them ?
"I was once robbed, they took my mobile phone, didn’t make we want to go and buy a weapon . You must live in very rough area, have you even been abroad on holiday? | |||
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"Aside from changing the extreme trump policies, hopefully a better covid strategy, nothing will change. Not on the important issues of racism or gun laws. Gun laws are perfectly fine
Not having first hand experience, I can't argue with you.
If you want to own hand guns or hunting rifles, I would suggest that is within your remit, after all that's within reason but military grade weapons in the hands of civilians? Just from the outside looking in, it doesn't seem right.
But your country, your way. I defer to your 'on the ground' knowledge.
Thanks nothing to fear from AR style. They are not military grade. Can't own a military grade weapon. After last year and this year gun sales went through the ceiling people are realizing their rights.No matter your political affiliation.
Why are you are too scared to leave your house without a gun ?
Because I had been accosted and robbed. Why are you so scared of them ?
I was once robbed, they took my mobile phone, didn’t make we want to go and buy a weapon . You must live in very rough area, have you even been abroad on holiday? "Not on Holiday Have no desire to. | |||
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"Aside from changing the extreme trump policies, hopefully a better covid strategy, nothing will change. Not on the important issues of racism or gun laws. Gun laws are perfectly fine
Not having first hand experience, I can't argue with you.
If you want to own hand guns or hunting rifles, I would suggest that is within your remit, after all that's within reason but military grade weapons in the hands of civilians? Just from the outside looking in, it doesn't seem right.
But your country, your way. I defer to your 'on the ground' knowledge.
Thanks nothing to fear from AR style. They are not military grade. Can't own a military grade weapon. After last year and this year gun sales went through the ceiling people are realizing their rights.No matter your political affiliation.
Why are you are too scared to leave your house without a gun ?
Because I had been accosted and robbed. Why are you so scared of them ?
I was once robbed, they took my mobile phone, didn’t make we want to go and buy a weapon . You must live in very rough area, have you even been abroad on holiday?
Not on Holiday Have no desire to."What a surprise, it’s great living and visiting a place where you don’t need a gun for protection , you should try it | |||
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"Proof is in the doing, not the saying. I will betcha that every job interview you have ever been to you recited the same speech. Not even at the end of day one yet. Give the guy a chance.
Give him a chance after one day..? The usual suspects expect change straight away as proven in other threads
He has already stopped the building of the wall .
"$1.9tn for the US coronavirus economy. Rejoining the Paris climate agreement. Rejoining WHO. Relief for renters and homeowners. He's ending the trump tax relief programme. Recinding the Keystone XL pipeline. Stopping the wall building. Scrapping the travel ban. Ending the Muslim ban. adding LGBT protections. Reasuring that America is back into the Allied Approach to Defence. | |||
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"Proof is in the doing, not the saying. I will betcha that every job interview you have ever been to you recited the same speech. Not even at the end of day one yet. Give the guy a chance.
Give him a chance after one day..? The usual suspects expect change straight away as proven in other threads
He has already stopped the building of the wall .
$1.9tn for the US coronavirus economy.
Rejoining the Paris climate agreement.
Rejoining WHO.
Relief for renters and homeowners.
He's ending the trump tax relief programme.
Recinding the Keystone XL pipeline.
Stopping the wall building.
Scrapping the travel ban.
Ending the Muslim ban.
adding LGBT protections.
Reasuring that America is back into the Allied Approach to Defence.
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"Seen the film where Sandra is an undercover cop at beauty pagents, wants to say they need tougher gun laws but has to always finish with I love puppies children and want world peace... applause.... felt joe could be an ex beauty contestant, following his speech, was there any meat on the bones? "I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm sorry you don't welcome someone that wants unity and healing. I'm very sorry you feel the need to share your bile. I'm not sorry that the man that promised American carnage is now yesterdays news. I hope you feel better soon. | |||
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"Seen the film where Sandra is an undercover cop at beauty pagents, wants to say they need tougher gun laws but has to always finish with I love puppies children and want world peace... applause.... felt joe could be an ex beauty contestant, following his speech, was there any meat on the bones?
I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm sorry you don't welcome someone that wants unity and healing. I'm very sorry you feel the need to share your bile. I'm not sorry that the man that promised American carnage is now yesterdays news. I hope you feel better soon."Bile? I asked a question, you preach you want unity and say what? Really, get a mirror! | |||
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"Seen the film where Sandra is an undercover cop at beauty pagents, wants to say they need tougher gun laws but has to always finish with I love puppies children and want world peace... applause.... felt joe could be an ex beauty contestant, following his speech, was there any meat on the bones?
I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm sorry you don't welcome someone that wants unity and healing. I'm very sorry you feel the need to share your bile. I'm not sorry that the man that promised American carnage is now yesterdays news. I hope you feel better soon.
Bile? I asked a question, you preach you want unity and say what? Really, get a mirror! "Your question was a rhetorical one intended to deride and mock someone with good intentions, which is quite frankly shameful. | |||
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"Seen the film where Sandra is an undercover cop at beauty pagents, wants to say they need tougher gun laws but has to always finish with I love puppies children and want world peace... applause.... felt joe could be an ex beauty contestant, following his speech, was there any meat on the bones?
I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm sorry you don't welcome someone that wants unity and healing. I'm very sorry you feel the need to share your bile. I'm not sorry that the man that promised American carnage is now yesterdays news. I hope you feel better soon.
Bile? I asked a question, you preach you want unity and say what? Really, get a mirror!
Your question was a rhetorical one intended to deride and mock someone with good intentions, which is quite frankly shameful. "Want to argue, hardly very joe? No my question was if others thought politics should be full of platitudes like beauty pagents, same guff reeled out, of course everyone wants hospitals peace etc etc its how you get there! Puppies, be nice, love, as one.... sunshine.... understanding? | |||
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" No my question was if others thought politics should be full of platitudes like beauty pagents, same guff reeled out, of course everyone wants hospitals peace etc etc its how you get there! Puppies, be nice, love, as one.... sunshine.... understanding? "He has done all that already off-stage. $1.9tn for the US coronavirus economy. Rejoining the Paris climate agreement. Rejoining WHO. Relief for renters and homeowners. He's ending the trump tax relief programme. Recinding the Keystone XL pipeline. Stopping the wall building. Scrapping the travel ban. Ending the Muslim ban. adding LGBT protections. Reasuring that America is back into the Allied Approach to Defence. On stage is not so much platitudes as it is a rah rah!!. Nothing wrong with that, anyone who is reaffirmed by it already took time to know that he already has a substantial programme in process. | |||
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"Aside from changing the extreme trump policies, hopefully a better covid strategy, nothing will change. Not on the important issues of racism or gun laws. Gun laws are perfectly fine
Not having first hand experience, I can't argue with you.
If you want to own hand guns or hunting rifles, I would suggest that is within your remit, after all that's within reason but military grade weapons in the hands of civilians? Just from the outside looking in, it doesn't seem right.
But your country, your way. I defer to your 'on the ground' knowledge.
Thanks nothing to fear from AR style. They are not military grade. Can't own a military grade weapon. After last year and this year gun sales went through the ceiling people are realizing their rights.No matter your political affiliation.
Why are you are too scared to leave your house without a gun ?
Because I had been accosted and robbed. Why are you so scared of them ?
I was once robbed, they took my mobile phone, didn’t make we want to go and buy a weapon . You must live in very rough area, have you even been abroad on holiday?
Not on Holiday Have no desire to.
What a surprise, it’s great living and visiting a place where you don’t need a gun for protection , you should try it "No thanks rather keep mine I fine where I am at. | |||
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"Seen the film where Sandra is an undercover cop at beauty pagents, wants to say they need tougher gun laws but has to always finish with I love puppies children and want world peace... applause.... felt joe could be an ex beauty contestant, following his speech, was there any meat on the bones?
I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm sorry you don't welcome someone that wants unity and healing. I'm very sorry you feel the need to share your bile. I'm not sorry that the man that promised American carnage is now yesterdays news. I hope you feel better soon.
Bile? I asked a question, you preach you want unity and say what? Really, get a mirror!
Your question was a rhetorical one intended to deride and mock someone with good intentions, which is quite frankly shameful.
Want to argue, hardly very joe? No my question was if others thought politics should be full of platitudes like beauty pagents, same guff reeled out, of course everyone wants hospitals peace etc etc its how you get there!
Puppies, be nice, love, as one.... sunshine.... understanding? "No not looking to fight, just taking a moment to share my contempt. | |||
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"Seen the film where Sandra is an undercover cop at beauty pagents, wants to say they need tougher gun laws but has to always finish with I love puppies children and want world peace... applause.... felt joe could be an ex beauty contestant, following his speech, was there any meat on the bones?
I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm sorry you don't welcome someone that wants unity and healing. I'm very sorry you feel the need to share your bile. I'm not sorry that the man that promised American carnage is now yesterdays news. I hope you feel better soon.
Bile? I asked a question, you preach you want unity and say what? Really, get a mirror!
Your question was a rhetorical one intended to deride and mock someone with good intentions, which is quite frankly shameful.
Want to argue, hardly very joe? No my question was if others thought politics should be full of platitudes like beauty pagents, same guff reeled out, of course everyone wants hospitals peace etc etc its how you get there!
Puppies, be nice, love, as one.... sunshine.... understanding?
No not looking to fight, just taking a moment to share my contempt."So the USA goes backwards 4 years. Because things were so good then that they elected a bell end like Trump as president eh | |||
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" So the USA goes backwards 4 years. Because things were so good then that they elected a bell end like Trump as president eh "Just how has America gone backwards? Please explain. | |||
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"Aside from changing the extreme trump policies, hopefully a better covid strategy, nothing will change. Not on the important issues of racism or gun laws. Gun laws are perfectly fine
Yeah, perfectly fine , how many gun related deaths do you get in the US? "There for shooting scary animals !! You know they dont know how to work traps & stuff | |||
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"Aside from changing the extreme trump policies, hopefully a better covid strategy, nothing will change. Not on the important issues of racism or gun laws. Gun laws are perfectly fine
Not having first hand experience, I can't argue with you.
If you want to own hand guns or hunting rifles, I would suggest that is within your remit, after all that's within reason but military grade weapons in the hands of civilians? Just from the outside looking in, it doesn't seem right.
But your country, your way. I defer to your 'on the ground' knowledge.
Thanks nothing to fear from AR style. They are not military grade. Can't own a military grade weapon. After last year and this year gun sales went through the ceiling people are realizing their rights.No matter your political affiliation.
Why are you are too scared to leave your house without a gun ?
Because I had been accosted and robbed. Why are you so scared of them ?
I was once robbed, they took my mobile phone, didn’t make we want to go and buy a weapon . You must live in very rough area, have you even been abroad on holiday?
Not on Holiday Have no desire to.
What a surprise, it’s great living and visiting a place where you don’t need a gun for protection , you should try it
No thanks rather keep mine I fine where I am at. "To scared to travel ? | |||
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"Aside from changing the extreme trump policies, hopefully a better covid strategy, nothing will change. Not on the important issues of racism or gun laws. Gun laws are perfectly fine
Yeah, perfectly fine , how many gun related deaths do you get in the US?
There for shooting scary animals !!
You know they dont know how to work traps & stuff
"hahaha. Scary animals. A Deer stood motionless while a man or boy with a gun shoots it. Wow. feeling so protected against a wild attack. | |||
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"Aside from changing the extreme trump policies, hopefully a better covid strategy, nothing will change. Not on the important issues of racism or gun laws. Gun laws are perfectly fine
Not having first hand experience, I can't argue with you.
If you want to own hand guns or hunting rifles, I would suggest that is within your remit, after all that's within reason but military grade weapons in the hands of civilians? Just from the outside looking in, it doesn't seem right.
But your country, your way. I defer to your 'on the ground' knowledge.
Thanks nothing to fear from AR style. They are not military grade. Can't own a military grade weapon. After last year and this year gun sales went through the ceiling people are realizing their rights.No matter your political affiliation.
Why are you are too scared to leave your house without a gun ?
Because I had been accosted and robbed. Why are you so scared of them ?
I was once robbed, they took my mobile phone, didn’t make we want to go and buy a weapon . You must live in very rough area, have you even been abroad on holiday?
Not on Holiday Have no desire to.
What a surprise, it’s great living and visiting a place where you don’t need a gun for protection , you should try it
No thanks rather keep mine I fine where I am at.
To scared to travel ?
"I travel alot here in the states been all over. There is no place like home and not scary animals tasty animals. | |||
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" So the USA goes backwards 4 years. Because things were so good then that they elected a bell end like Trump as president eh
Just how has America gone backwards? Please explain."Wasn't Biden VP four years ago? What will be any different now? Obama was unlucky in that he took office just after the crash, so all he could do was go round bombing people. Biden is taking office during/after the covid crash. Today's words will count for nothing in 4 years time if he can't reduce unemployment. I think it was Bill Clinton who said it's all about the economy stupid | |||
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" No my question was if others thought politics should be full of platitudes like beauty pagents, same guff reeled out, of course everyone wants hospitals peace etc etc its how you get there! Puppies, be nice, love, as one.... sunshine.... understanding?
He has done all that already off-stage.
$1.9tn for the US coronavirus economy.
Rejoining the Paris climate agreement.
Rejoining WHO.
Relief for renters and homeowners.
He's ending the trump tax relief programme.
Recinding the Keystone XL pipeline.
Stopping the wall building.
Scrapping the travel ban.
Ending the Muslim ban.
adding LGBT protections.
Reasuring that America is back into the Allied Approach to Defence.
On stage is not so much platitudes as it is a rah rah!!. Nothing wrong with that, anyone who is reaffirmed by it already took time to know that he already has a substantial programme in process.
"Actually.... not quite.... A lot of that was basically done via trumps use of “executive order’s” which means it was done via a president action rather than via congress becoming law... so a lot of those are revoking trumps EO’s...so yes, Muslim ban, rejoining Paris and WHO, the border wall..but there are a couple of exceptions to this 1) Spending cannot be done via EO’s... so that statement on coronavirus virus stimulus is basically a statement of intent.... but will have to go thru the house and senate.... 2) those that have sunset clauses .. for example the travel ban.... that was due to expire end of February.... Biden administration isn’t getting rid of it.... they are basically going to extend it! So if you were planning a us trip before June or July... not likely to happen! The same thing also basically applies to renters relief, students loans where instead of those ending those are being extended | |||
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"Aside from changing the extreme trump policies, hopefully a better covid strategy, nothing will change. Not on the important issues of racism or gun laws. Gun laws are perfectly fine
Not having first hand experience, I can't argue with you.
If you want to own hand guns or hunting rifles, I would suggest that is within your remit, after all that's within reason but military grade weapons in the hands of civilians? Just from the outside looking in, it doesn't seem right.
But your country, your way. I defer to your 'on the ground' knowledge.
Thanks nothing to fear from AR style. They are not military grade. Can't own a military grade weapon. After last year and this year gun sales went through the ceiling people are realizing their rights.No matter your political affiliation.
Why are you are too scared to leave your house without a gun ?
Because I had been accosted and robbed. Why are you so scared of them ?
I was once robbed, they took my mobile phone, didn’t make we want to go and buy a weapon . You must live in very rough area, have you even been abroad on holiday?
Not on Holiday Have no desire to.
What a surprise, it’s great living and visiting a place where you don’t need a gun for protection , you should try it
No thanks rather keep mine I fine where I am at.
To scared to travel ?
I travel alot here in the states been all over. There is no place like home and not scary animals tasty animals. "there's no place like home  | |||
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"Aside from changing the extreme trump policies, hopefully a better covid strategy, nothing will change. Not on the important issues of racism or gun laws. Gun laws are perfectly fine
Not having first hand experience, I can't argue with you.
If you want to own hand guns or hunting rifles, I would suggest that is within your remit, after all that's within reason but military grade weapons in the hands of civilians? Just from the outside looking in, it doesn't seem right.
But your country, your way. I defer to your 'on the ground' knowledge.
Thanks nothing to fear from AR style. They are not military grade. Can't own a military grade weapon. After last year and this year gun sales went through the ceiling people are realizing their rights.No matter your political affiliation.
Why are you are too scared to leave your house without a gun ?
Because I had been accosted and robbed. Why are you so scared of them ?
I was once robbed, they took my mobile phone, didn’t make we want to go and buy a weapon . You must live in very rough area, have you even been abroad on holiday?
Not on Holiday Have no desire to.
What a surprise, it’s great living and visiting a place where you don’t need a gun for protection , you should try it
No thanks rather keep mine I fine where I am at.
To scared to travel ?
I travel alot here in the states been all over. There is no place like home and not scary animals tasty animals. there's no place like home " | |||
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" No my question was if others thought politics should be full of platitudes like beauty pagents, same guff reeled out, of course everyone wants hospitals peace etc etc its how you get there! Puppies, be nice, love, as one.... sunshine.... understanding?
He has done all that already off-stage.
$1.9tn for the US coronavirus economy.
Rejoining the Paris climate agreement.
Rejoining WHO.
Relief for renters and homeowners.
He's ending the trump tax relief programme.
Recinding the Keystone XL pipeline.
Stopping the wall building.
Scrapping the travel ban.
Ending the Muslim ban.
adding LGBT protections.
Reasuring that America is back into the Allied Approach to Defence.
On stage is not so much platitudes as it is a rah rah!!. Nothing wrong with that, anyone who is reaffirmed by it already took time to know that he already has a substantial programme in process.
Actually.... not quite....
A lot of that was basically done via trumps use of “executive order’s” which means it was done via a president action rather than via congress becoming law... so a lot of those are revoking trumps EO’s...so yes, Muslim ban, rejoining Paris and WHO, the border wall..but there are a couple of exceptions to this
1) Spending cannot be done via EO’s... so that statement on coronavirus virus stimulus is basically a statement of intent.... but will have to go thru the house and senate....
2) those that have sunset clauses .. for example the travel ban.... that was due to expire end of February.... Biden administration isn’t getting rid of it.... they are basically going to extend it! So if you were planning a us trip before June or July... not likely to happen! The same thing also basically applies to renters relief, students loans where instead of those ending those are being extended "I said it was a programme. Read higher up. | |||
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" He's already done most of that off-stage. He's listed a whole raft of things that will be reversed and pursued. " | |||
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