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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

The post-Brexit woes facing Scotland's fishing industry have deepened as its biggest logistics provider, DFDS Scotland, said it would halt exports to the European Union.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I bet Fawadjie is laughing his little Smug head off .

I reckon there might be a few Scottish Fishermen who take

A trip to His Local .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well it was voted for and we have left, it’s just the way now, can’t do much about it.

Make do and carry on I suppose

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By *untwolancashireCouple
over a year ago

Preston


"The post-Brexit woes facing Scotland's fishing industry have deepened as its biggest logistics provider, DFDS Scotland, said it would halt exports to the European Union."
some one else will take over & make money from the contracts I’m sure. None story really. Just like no Europeans company’s exporting to the UK you like to go on about, except all the big companies that like to make money. As you often here from your side of the argument, we’ve left why are you still talking about the EU. Time to move on. xx

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"The post-Brexit woes facing Scotland's fishing industry have deepened as its biggest logistics provider, DFDS Scotland, said it would halt exports to the European Union. some one else will take over & make money from the contracts I’m sure. None story really. Just like no Europeans company’s exporting to the UK you like to go on about, except all the big companies that like to make money. As you often here from your side of the argument, we’ve left why are you still talking about the EU. Time to move on. xx"

Seeing as DFDS account for the vast majority of those exports there is no one to take over. It’s an integrated shared logistics system not just a few trucks rocking up.

This will hurt the fisherman and traders a lot .

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"The post-Brexit woes facing Scotland's fishing industry have deepened as its biggest logistics provider, DFDS Scotland, said it would halt exports to the European Union."

That news is a few days old.

DFDS said they would suspend exports until Wednesday, which was yesterday.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Fisheries Minister (representing land locked constituency in Oxford) has admitted she didn’t even read the Trade Agreement because she was too busy arranging a nativity trail.

Some think we should just move on, but if you don’t understand what the UK has been signed up to you won’t understand how badly you’re being shafted.

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By *ust some cock suckerMan
over a year ago

Preston

It's what the majority voted for

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By *renzMan
over a year ago

Between Chichester and Havant


"The post-Brexit woes facing Scotland's fishing industry have deepened as its biggest logistics provider, DFDS Scotland, said it would halt exports to the European Union.

That news is a few days old.

DFDS said they would suspend exports until Wednesday, which was yesterday.

"

Never let the truth get in the way of a good story!

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"The Fisheries Minister (representing land locked constituency in Oxford) has admitted she didn’t even read the Trade Agreement because she was too busy arranging a nativity trail.

Some think we should just move on, but if you don’t understand what the UK has been signed up to you won’t understand how badly you’re being shafted."

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By *uietbloke67Man
over a year ago

outside your bedroom window ;-)

Ive never seen a poor scottish fisherman, but they where daft enoufh to believe the fat twat, got greedy and now he has pumped them and they have pumped therselves.

Feck em ...greed

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

The one and only industry that might have a a benefit from brexit was fishing, not looking good.

The government is being urged to compensate businesses whose exports to the European Union have been torpedoed by post-Brexit paperwork.

One major trade association told PoliticsHome that the Scottish seafood sector alone was losing over one million pounds a day.

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By *uliaChrisCouple
over a year ago

westerham

Ooh look at that we were told yesterday remainers didnt make Brexit threads! Were we lied to

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/13/fisheries-minister-admits-not-reading-brexit-bill-as-she-was-at-nativity

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

Who is obsessed with the eu ?

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By *renzMan
over a year ago

Between Chichester and Havant


"https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/13/fisheries-minister-admits-not-reading-brexit-bill-as-she-was-at-nativity

"

Perhaps you should widen your scope of reading. The Guardian, lol.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/13/fisheries-minister-admits-not-reading-brexit-bill-as-she-was-at-nativity

Perhaps you should widen your scope of reading. The Guardian, lol. "

Right.. so.its not true..is ther what you are saying?

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By *renzMan
over a year ago

Between Chichester and Havant


"https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/13/fisheries-minister-admits-not-reading-brexit-bill-as-she-was-at-nativity

Perhaps you should widen your scope of reading. The Guardian, lol.

Right.. so.its not true..is ther what you are saying?"

Of course the papers and the news channels tell the truth without a political agenda.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/13/fisheries-minister-admits-not-reading-brexit-bill-as-she-was-at-nativity

Perhaps you should widen your scope of reading. The Guardian, lol. "

Oh btw it's also in the telegraph,the daily record.the oxford mail ,press and journal, herald Scotland.and the independent

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By *renzMan
over a year ago

Between Chichester and Havant


"https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/13/fisheries-minister-admits-not-reading-brexit-bill-as-she-was-at-nativity

Perhaps you should widen your scope of reading. The Guardian, lol.

Oh btw it's also in the telegraph,the daily record.the oxford mail ,press and journal, herald Scotland.and the independent "

Read above.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/13/fisheries-minister-admits-not-reading-brexit-bill-as-she-was-at-nativity

Perhaps you should widen your scope of reading. The Guardian, lol.

Oh btw it's also in the telegraph,the daily record.the oxford mail ,press and journal, herald Scotland.and the independent

Read above. "

Right so several outlets run a story.

The minister involves conforms the story to be correct.

But you think its untrue as they all have an agenda?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/13/fisheries-minister-admits-not-reading-brexit-bill-as-she-was-at-nativity

Perhaps you should widen your scope of reading. The Guardian, lol.

Oh btw it's also in the telegraph,the daily record.the oxford mail ,press and journal, herald Scotland.and the independent

Read above.

Right so several outlets run a story.

The minister involves conforms the story to be correct.

But you think its untrue as they all have an agenda?"

You're obsessed get over it we have left why keep going on about it. sound familiar???????

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"The post-Brexit woes facing Scotland's fishing industry have deepened as its biggest logistics provider, DFDS Scotland, said it would halt exports to the European Union.

That news is a few days old.

DFDS said they would suspend exports until Wednesday, which was yesterday.

"

You’re talking full loads . The groupage which the articles refer to is suspended until the 18th Jan which is definitely not yesterday. I’m sure the unsold fish will bring a fabulous price at the cat food factory.

Everyone seems to think teething problems. Some of these guys are losing business for good due to the standard delays never mind the suspensions.

Still it’s what Englanders voted for so fuck the Scots and that taking back control of our fishing bollocks.

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/13/fisheries-minister-admits-not-reading-brexit-bill-as-she-was-at-nativity

Perhaps you should widen your scope of reading. The Guardian, lol.

Oh btw it's also in the telegraph,the daily record.the oxford mail ,press and journal, herald Scotland.and the independent

Read above.

Right so several outlets run a story.

The minister involves conforms the story to be correct.

But you think its untrue as they all have an agenda?You're obsessed get over it we have left why keep going on about it. sound familiar??????? "

I think this is more about incompetent government than Brexit!

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By *renzMan
over a year ago

Between Chichester and Havant


"https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/13/fisheries-minister-admits-not-reading-brexit-bill-as-she-was-at-nativity

Perhaps you should widen your scope of reading. The Guardian, lol.

Oh btw it's also in the telegraph,the daily record.the oxford mail ,press and journal, herald Scotland.and the independent

Read above.

Right so several outlets run a story.

The minister involves conforms the story to be correct.

But you think its untrue as they all have an agenda?"

Of course they all have an agenda. Telegraph, independent, guardian, whichever.

I don't remember writing and I looked back to confirm, the story was true or untrue. I just said you should widen your scope of reading. Open your mind, read between the lines, if you are really interested in a subject do some research or maybe you have first hand knowledge? Believing anything that you read in the papers or on the internet has a bias to it. Human nature.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/13/fisheries-minister-admits-not-reading-brexit-bill-as-she-was-at-nativity

Perhaps you should widen your scope of reading. The Guardian, lol.

Oh btw it's also in the telegraph,the daily record.the oxford mail ,press and journal, herald Scotland.and the independent

Read above.

Right so several outlets run a story.

The minister involves conforms the story to be correct.

But you think its untrue as they all have an agenda?You're obsessed get over it we have left why keep going on about it. sound familiar???????

I think this is more about incompetent government than Brexit! "

I think my post on another thread was too but it didnt stop the usual childish posters from posting.Just pointing out the hypocricity.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"The post-Brexit woes facing Scotland's fishing industry have deepened as its biggest logistics provider, DFDS Scotland, said it would halt exports to the European Union.

That news is a few days old.

DFDS said they would suspend exports until Wednesday, which was yesterday.

You’re talking full loads . The groupage which the articles refer to is suspended until the 18th Jan which is definitely not yesterday. I’m sure the unsold fish will bring a fabulous price at the cat food factory.

Everyone seems to think teething problems. Some of these guys are losing business for good due to the standard delays never mind the suspensions.

Still it’s what Englanders voted for so fuck the Scots and that taking back control of our fishing bollocks. "

Its what the UK voted for.

Did I read somewhere, that loads were being refused, because fish names have to be in their Latin form?

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By *hamelessAndHussyCouple
over a year ago

Uckfield


"it’s what Englanders voted"

Well, a small majority of Englanders did. In particular the older voters (many of whom will by now be dead either through the passage of 4 years or the culling caused by the incompetence of this government). And what about the Welsh?

The whole thing is deeply regrettable, but please don't forget there are some Englanders who are not taken in by slogans on the side of a bus.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"it’s what Englanders voted

Well, a small majority of Englanders did. In particular the older voters (many of whom will by now be dead either through the passage of 4 years or the culling caused by the incompetence of this government). And what about the Welsh?

The whole thing is deeply regrettable, but please don't forget there are some Englanders who are not taken in by slogans on the side of a bus.

"

I think he knows that he is just trying to turn englanders into a derogatory term.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The post-Brexit woes facing Scotland's fishing industry have deepened as its biggest logistics provider, DFDS Scotland, said it would halt exports to the European Union.

That news is a few days old.

DFDS said they would suspend exports until Wednesday, which was yesterday.

You’re talking full loads . The groupage which the articles refer to is suspended until the 18th Jan which is definitely not yesterday. I’m sure the unsold fish will bring a fabulous price at the cat food factory.

Everyone seems to think teething problems. Some of these guys are losing business for good due to the standard delays never mind the suspensions.

Still it’s what Englanders voted for so fuck the Scots and that taking back control of our fishing bollocks.

Its what the UK voted for.

Did I read somewhere, that loads were being refused, because fish names have to be in their Latin form? "

The daily mail perhaps? That's just a wild guess of course

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"The post-Brexit woes facing Scotland's fishing industry have deepened as its biggest logistics provider, DFDS Scotland, said it would halt exports to the European Union.

That news is a few days old.

DFDS said they would suspend exports until Wednesday, which was yesterday.

You’re talking full loads . The groupage which the articles refer to is suspended until the 18th Jan which is definitely not yesterday. I’m sure the unsold fish will bring a fabulous price at the cat food factory.

Everyone seems to think teething problems. Some of these guys are losing business for good due to the standard delays never mind the suspensions.

Still it’s what Englanders voted for so fuck the Scots and that taking back control of our fishing bollocks.

Its what the UK voted for.

Did I read somewhere, that loads were being refused, because fish names have to be in their Latin form?

The daily mail perhaps? That's just a wild guess of course "

Rueters. A direct quote from a French fish importer.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The post-Brexit woes facing Scotland's fishing industry have deepened as its biggest logistics provider, DFDS Scotland, said it would halt exports to the European Union.

That news is a few days old.

DFDS said they would suspend exports until Wednesday, which was yesterday.

You’re talking full loads . The groupage which the articles refer to is suspended until the 18th Jan which is definitely not yesterday. I’m sure the unsold fish will bring a fabulous price at the cat food factory.

Everyone seems to think teething problems. Some of these guys are losing business for good due to the standard delays never mind the suspensions.

Still it’s what Englanders voted for so fuck the Scots and that taking back control of our fishing bollocks.

Its what the UK voted for.

Did I read somewhere, that loads were being refused, because fish names have to be in their Latin form?

The daily mail perhaps? That's just a wild guess of course

Rueters. A direct quote from a French fish importer. "

Lol So we have to change the little fishes names to Latin now ? Doesnt boris converse in Latin?

I should really slip in my pig metaphor here.

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"The post-Brexit woes facing Scotland's fishing industry have deepened as its biggest logistics provider, DFDS Scotland, said it would halt exports to the European Union.

That news is a few days old.

DFDS said they would suspend exports until Wednesday, which was yesterday.

You’re talking full loads . The groupage which the articles refer to is suspended until the 18th Jan which is definitely not yesterday. I’m sure the unsold fish will bring a fabulous price at the cat food factory.

Everyone seems to think teething problems. Some of these guys are losing business for good due to the standard delays never mind the suspensions.

Still it’s what Englanders voted for so fuck the Scots and that taking back control of our fishing bollocks.

Its what the UK voted for.

Did I read somewhere, that loads were being refused, because fish names have to be in their Latin form? "

That made me laugh out loud . Thanks

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"it’s what Englanders voted

Well, a small majority of Englanders did. In particular the older voters (many of whom will by now be dead either through the passage of 4 years or the culling caused by the incompetence of this government). And what about the Welsh?

The whole thing is deeply regrettable, but please don't forget there are some Englanders who are not taken in by slogans on the side of a bus.

I think he knows that he is just trying to turn englanders into a derogatory term. "

Costa is correct I did realise .

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By *uliaChrisCouple
over a year ago

westerham


"The post-Brexit woes facing Scotland's fishing industry have deepened as its biggest logistics provider, DFDS Scotland, said it would halt exports to the European Union.

That news is a few days old.

DFDS said they would suspend exports until Wednesday, which was yesterday.

You’re talking full loads . The groupage which the articles refer to is suspended until the 18th Jan which is definitely not yesterday. I’m sure the unsold fish will bring a fabulous price at the cat food factory.

Everyone seems to think teething problems. Some of these guys are losing business for good due to the standard delays never mind the suspensions.

Still it’s what Englanders voted for so fuck the Scots and that taking back control of our fishing bollocks.

Its what the UK voted for.

Did I read somewhere, that loads were being refused, because fish names have to be in their Latin form?

The daily mail perhaps? That's just a wild guess of course

Rueters. A direct quote from a French fish importer.

Lol So we have to change the little fishes names to Latin now ? Doesnt boris converse in Latin?

I should really slip in my pig metaphor here."

It's called an education

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By *untwolancashireCouple
over a year ago

Preston

What this agreement shows is the the EU has learnt nothing from its own history.

1 one of the reason for WW2 was the way Germany was treat after WW1 & the treaty of Versailles as kind of way of the allies trying to stop Germany getting strong again, but at the same time starving the everyday person. this gave way to the National Socialist German Workers' Party, gaining control.

2 one of the main reasons why the EU was formed to try to stop another another world war, always stated by the Europeans not the British

3 if there ever was another WW & I’m not saying there would be, but Britain seems to do alright in these.

So EU want to make us poor, I can’t believe you still love & support the EU, happy in the knowledge that they want to hurt the average UK person, you your partners your children & your friends. The EU don’t care about you & never did. Are you one of those people that want to be friends with your child’s bully (EU) because you hate your child (UK). I feel the hate from the same people on these threads all the time. Stop the hate & start to love before it’s to late xx

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By *rystal DreamtimeTV/TS
over a year ago

horsham


"What this agreement shows is the the EU has learnt nothing from its own history.

1 one of the reason for WW2 was the way Germany was treat after WW1 & the treaty of Versailles as kind of way of the allies trying to stop Germany getting strong again, but at the same time starving the everyday person. this gave way to the National Socialist German Workers' Party, gaining control.

2 one of the main reasons why the EU was formed to try to stop another another world war, always stated by the Europeans not the British

3 if there ever was another WW & I’m not saying there would be, but Britain seems to do alright in these.

So EU want to make us poor, I can’t believe you still love & support the EU, happy in the knowledge that they want to hurt the average UK person, you your partners your children & your friends. The EU don’t care about you & never did. Are you one of those people that want to be friends with your child’s bully (EU) because you hate your child (UK). I feel the hate from the same people on these threads all the time. Stop the hate & start to love before it’s to late xx"

You are shitting me ?

“ Britain seems to do alright in these “

Sometimes when I’m trying to understand reasoning and motive , the word Euthanasia flashes in a great big neon sign above my keyboard..

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By *untwolancashireCouple
over a year ago

Preston


"What this agreement shows is the the EU has learnt nothing from its own history.

1 one of the reason for WW2 was the way Germany was treat after WW1 & the treaty of Versailles as kind of way of the allies trying to stop Germany getting strong again, but at the same time starving the everyday person. this gave way to the National Socialist German Workers' Party, gaining control.

2 one of the main reasons why the EU was formed to try to stop another another world war, always stated by the Europeans not the British

3 if there ever was another WW & I’m not saying there would be, but Britain seems to do alright in these.

So EU want to make us poor, I can’t believe you still love & support the EU, happy in the knowledge that they want to hurt the average UK person, you your partners your children & your friends. The EU don’t care about you & never did. Are you one of those people that want to be friends with your child’s bully (EU) because you hate your child (UK). I feel the hate from the same people on these threads all the time. Stop the hate & start to love before it’s to late xx

You are shitting me ?

“ Britain seems to do alright in these “

Sometimes when I’m trying to understand reasoning and motive , the word Euthanasia flashes in a great big neon sign above my keyboard.. "

well we’re not under Nazi rule, so I’d say we did ALRIGHT, obviously you wanted the Nazi to win WW2?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"What this agreement shows is the the EU has learnt nothing from its own history.

1 one of the reason for WW2 was the way Germany was treat after WW1 & the treaty of Versailles as kind of way of the allies trying to stop Germany getting strong again, but at the same time starving the everyday person. this gave way to the National Socialist German Workers' Party, gaining control.

2 one of the main reasons why the EU was formed to try to stop another another world war, always stated by the Europeans not the British

3 if there ever was another WW & I’m not saying there would be, but Britain seems to do alright in these.

So EU want to make us poor, I can’t believe you still love & support the EU, happy in the knowledge that they want to hurt the average UK person, you your partners your children & your friends. The EU don’t care about you & never did. Are you one of those people that want to be friends with your child’s bully (EU) because you hate your child (UK). I feel the hate from the same people on these threads all the time. Stop the hate & start to love before it’s to late xx

You are shitting me ?

“ Britain seems to do alright in these “

Sometimes when I’m trying to understand reasoning and motive , the word Euthanasia flashes in a great big neon sign above my keyboard.. well we’re not under Nazi rule, so I’d say we did ALRIGHT, obviously you wanted the Nazi to win WW2? "

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"What this agreement shows is the the EU has learnt nothing from its own history.

1 one of the reason for WW2 was the way Germany was treat after WW1 & the treaty of Versailles as kind of way of the allies trying to stop Germany getting strong again, but at the same time starving the everyday person. this gave way to the National Socialist German Workers' Party, gaining control.

2 one of the main reasons why the EU was formed to try to stop another another world war, always stated by the Europeans not the British

3 if there ever was another WW & I’m not saying there would be, but Britain seems to do alright in these.

So EU want to make us poor, I can’t believe you still love & support the EU, happy in the knowledge that they want to hurt the average UK person, you your partners your children & your friends. The EU don’t care about you & never did. Are you one of those people that want to be friends with your child’s bully (EU) because you hate your child (UK). I feel the hate from the same people on these threads all the time. Stop the hate & start to love before it’s to late xx

You are shitting me ?

“ Britain seems to do alright in these “

Sometimes when I’m trying to understand reasoning and motive , the word Euthanasia flashes in a great big neon sign above my keyboard.. well we’re not under Nazi rule, so I’d say we did ALRIGHT, obviously you wanted the Nazi to win WW2? "

Oh dear. Theres some serious exceptionalism there for you Almost sounds like someone kicked us out of the worlds biggest free trade zone and sent us to the naughty corner.

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By *rystal DreamtimeTV/TS
over a year ago

horsham


"What this agreement shows is the the EU has learnt nothing from its own history.

1 one of the reason for WW2 was the way Germany was treat after WW1 & the treaty of Versailles as kind of way of the allies trying to stop Germany getting strong again, but at the same time starving the everyday person. this gave way to the National Socialist German Workers' Party, gaining control.

2 one of the main reasons why the EU was formed to try to stop another another world war, always stated by the Europeans not the British

3 if there ever was another WW & I’m not saying there would be, but Britain seems to do alright in these.

So EU want to make us poor, I can’t believe you still love & support the EU, happy in the knowledge that they want to hurt the average UK person, you your partners your children & your friends. The EU don’t care about you & never did. Are you one of those people that want to be friends with your child’s bully (EU) because you hate your child (UK). I feel the hate from the same people on these threads all the time. Stop the hate & start to love before it’s to late xx

You are shitting me ?

“ Britain seems to do alright in these “

Sometimes when I’m trying to understand reasoning and motive , the word Euthanasia flashes in a great big neon sign above my keyboard.. well we’re not under Nazi rule, so I’d say we did ALRIGHT, obviously you wanted the Nazi to win WW2? "

I can see no possible further discourse achievable .. I bid you Good Day .. May you reap what you sow

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Has anyone been watching the tv programme on Cornwall Fisherman.... Its very interesting xx thoughts?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again "
that’s you getting labelled a little englander mate

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again "
I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

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over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again "

‘Survive’ is that the goal now?

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over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic."

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again "

Is that a speech from boris?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? "

I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

Is that a speech from boris?"

so you disagree with the post then Lionel is it a bad idea ?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

Is that a speech from boris? so you disagree with the post then Lionel is it a bad idea ?"

Not at all..I think meaningless slogans and empty rhetoric is the future.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

Is that a speech from boris? so you disagree with the post then Lionel is it a bad idea ?

Not at all..I think meaningless slogans and empty rhetoric is the future. "

ffs so do you agree or not Lionel is it a good idea or bad ???

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By *renzMan
over a year ago

Between Chichester and Havant


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? "

I think I answered this question on a thread yesterday and the day before. It will take time before we see the economic benefits. Nobody said it would happen overnight. The only person who seems to think it should have is you. Keep asking the same boring questions over and over. It doesn't make you right however many times you ask, just unknowledgeable about how business works.

For one benefit that did happen overnight, ask the ladies. Small, maybe but it's something that never should have happened in the first place.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

Is that a speech from boris? so you disagree with the post then Lionel is it a bad idea ?

Not at all..I think meaningless slogans and empty rhetoric is the future. ffs so do you agree or not Lionel is it a good idea or bad ???"

Do I agree with what?

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By *V-AliceTV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr


"The post-Brexit woes facing Scotland's fishing industry have deepened as its biggest logistics provider, DFDS Scotland, said it would halt exports to the European Union."

The majority of Scots fishermen voted for Brexit; the majority of them vote Tory.

They got exactly what they wanted. Now they're fucking whining about it.

Boris will see they get a handout - your taxes well spent - but if a lot of them lose their jobs because they voted for the very thing and the very politicians that would make that happen; well, that's democracy - and capitalism.

As we say in Scotland; hell mend them.

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By *V-AliceTV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?"

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up."

If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

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over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it. "

Both sides are struggling? Does that make it more or less acceptable

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Both sides are struggling? Does that make it more or less acceptable "

Just inevitable with the late nature of the deal but both sides are culpable not just the uk gov as the rant was implying.

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over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Both sides are struggling? Does that make it more or less acceptable Just inevitable with the late nature of the deal but both sides are culpable not just the uk gov as the rant was implying. "

Why do you care about the EU? Surely it is only important to focus on how the UK are dealing with the problem ??

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Both sides are struggling? Does that make it more or less acceptable Just inevitable with the late nature of the deal but both sides are culpable not just the uk gov as the rant was implying.

Why do you care about the EU? Surely it is only important to focus on how the UK are dealing with the problem ?? "

Are you really that thick or just being contrary ? we can have the system working perfectly here in the uk but the good will not flow if its not working in the eu too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Both sides are struggling? Does that make it more or less acceptable Just inevitable with the late nature of the deal but both sides are culpable not just the uk gov as the rant was implying.

Why do you care about the EU? Surely it is only important to focus on how the UK are dealing with the problem ?? Are you really that thick or just being contrary ? we can have the system working perfectly here in the uk but the good will not flow if its not working in the eu too. "

Are you calling me thick? No need for that, I am aware of that, is this what ‘frictionless’ trade looks like

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Both sides are struggling? Does that make it more or less acceptable Just inevitable with the late nature of the deal but both sides are culpable not just the uk gov as the rant was implying.

Why do you care about the EU? Surely it is only important to focus on how the UK are dealing with the problem ?? Are you really that thick or just being contrary ? we can have the system working perfectly here in the uk but the good will not flow if its not working in the eu too.

Are you calling me thick? No need for that, I am aware of that, is this what ‘frictionless’ trade looks like "

why ask the question then if you are aware of it?

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"What this agreement shows is the the EU has learnt nothing from its own history.

1 one of the reason for WW2 was the way Germany was treat after WW1 & the treaty of Versailles as kind of way of the allies trying to stop Germany getting strong again, but at the same time starving the everyday person. this gave way to the National Socialist German Workers' Party, gaining control.

2 one of the main reasons why the EU was formed to try to stop another another world war, always stated by the Europeans not the British

3 if there ever was another WW & I’m not saying there would be, but Britain seems to do alright in these.

So EU want to make us poor, I can’t believe you still love & support the EU, happy in the knowledge that they want to hurt the average UK person, you your partners your children & your friends. The EU don’t care about you & never did. Are you one of those people that want to be friends with your child’s bully (EU) because you hate your child (UK). I feel the hate from the same people on these threads all the time. Stop the hate & start to love before it’s to late xx"

That has to be the most disgusting post I’ve seen on here. Do you live in a cave? Have you ever left the U.K. and spoken to another European.

Forgive if I get this wrong but didn’t Russia Poland Belgium Norway The Netherlands Finland, The US , and a dozen Commonwealth countries have some involvement in their people dying for our cause. The most successful fighter groups had Polish and Czechs flying our planes over our country. To defend not only us but to give us all a chance to fight on!

The First World War started in Serbia and was the result of the inbred relationships of the European royal families kicking off with nothing to do with any average everyday Europeans.

The second was by a murdering deceitful shit of a dictator who hid his true intentions until it was too stop him and the die was cast.

Your vitriol you have just spouted is totally the hate you condemn and what idiots of this world believe when they rally towards war.

If you believe that crap you’ve just spouted you are a very sad person indeed.

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over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Both sides are struggling? Does that make it more or less acceptable Just inevitable with the late nature of the deal but both sides are culpable not just the uk gov as the rant was implying.

Why do you care about the EU? Surely it is only important to focus on how the UK are dealing with the problem ?? Are you really that thick or just being contrary ? we can have the system working perfectly here in the uk but the good will not flow if its not working in the eu too.

Are you calling me thick? No need for that, I am aware of that, is this what ‘frictionless’ trade looks like why ask the question then if you are aware of it? "

Why not? Is this classed as another Brexit benefit

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again that’s you getting labelled a little englander mate "

Smacks a bit of Donald to be honest !

Look in your homes and see how much British stuff you buy.

With most of us including me it’s sod all!

Btw local business import their oranges too!!

I do buy local just for the record .

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it. "

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Both sides are struggling? Does that make it more or less acceptable Just inevitable with the late nature of the deal but both sides are culpable not just the uk gov as the rant was implying.

Why do you care about the EU? Surely it is only important to focus on how the UK are dealing with the problem ?? Are you really that thick or just being contrary ? we can have the system working perfectly here in the uk but the good will not flow if its not working in the eu too.

Are you calling me thick? No need for that, I am aware of that, is this what ‘frictionless’ trade looks like "

You are aware you're thick? well that explains why you cant see that the late nature of the deal has meant that the computer systems on both sides are not up scratch at the moment and that all new systems need a bit of time to iron out the problems.remember that one for the future it might help you out.

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over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Both sides are struggling? Does that make it more or less acceptable Just inevitable with the late nature of the deal but both sides are culpable not just the uk gov as the rant was implying.

Why do you care about the EU? Surely it is only important to focus on how the UK are dealing with the problem ?? Are you really that thick or just being contrary ? we can have the system working perfectly here in the uk but the good will not flow if its not working in the eu too.

Are you calling me thick? No need for that, I am aware of that, is this what ‘frictionless’ trade looks like You are aware you're thick? well that explains why you cant see that the late nature of the deal has meant that the computer systems on both sides are not up scratch at the moment and that all new systems need a bit of time to iron out the problems.remember that one for the future it might help you out. "

Are you calling me thick again? Why resort to insults, no need for that is there?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? "

Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Both sides are struggling? Does that make it more or less acceptable Just inevitable with the late nature of the deal but both sides are culpable not just the uk gov as the rant was implying.

Why do you care about the EU? Surely it is only important to focus on how the UK are dealing with the problem ?? Are you really that thick or just being contrary ? we can have the system working perfectly here in the uk but the good will not flow if its not working in the eu too.

Are you calling me thick? No need for that, I am aware of that, is this what ‘frictionless’ trade looks like You are aware you're thick? well that explains why you cant see that the late nature of the deal has meant that the computer systems on both sides are not up scratch at the moment and that all new systems need a bit of time to iron out the problems.remember that one for the future it might help you out.

Are you calling me thick again? Why resort to insults, no need for that is there? "

If you are going to act like it expect it is it so hard to understand both sides IT needs to be fit for purpose.Im sure you do but are just attention seeking.

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over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Both sides are struggling? Does that make it more or less acceptable Just inevitable with the late nature of the deal but both sides are culpable not just the uk gov as the rant was implying.

Why do you care about the EU? Surely it is only important to focus on how the UK are dealing with the problem ?? Are you really that thick or just being contrary ? we can have the system working perfectly here in the uk but the good will not flow if its not working in the eu too.

Are you calling me thick? No need for that, I am aware of that, is this what ‘frictionless’ trade looks like You are aware you're thick? well that explains why you cant see that the late nature of the deal has meant that the computer systems on both sides are not up scratch at the moment and that all new systems need a bit of time to iron out the problems.remember that one for the future it might help you out.

Are you calling me thick again? Why resort to insults, no need for that is there? If you are going to act like it expect it is it so hard to understand both sides IT needs to be fit for purpose.Im sure you do but are just attention seeking. "

More insults? Like another poster has stated, Give said we have had 4 years to prepare for this, what happened

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over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Both sides are struggling? Does that make it more or less acceptable Just inevitable with the late nature of the deal but both sides are culpable not just the uk gov as the rant was implying.

Why do you care about the EU? Surely it is only important to focus on how the UK are dealing with the problem ?? Are you really that thick or just being contrary ? we can have the system working perfectly here in the uk but the good will not flow if its not working in the eu too.

Are you calling me thick? No need for that, I am aware of that, is this what ‘frictionless’ trade looks like You are aware you're thick? well that explains why you cant see that the late nature of the deal has meant that the computer systems on both sides are not up scratch at the moment and that all new systems need a bit of time to iron out the problems.remember that one for the future it might help you out.

Are you calling me thick again? Why resort to insults, no need for that is there? If you are going to act like it expect it is it so hard to understand both sides IT needs to be fit for purpose.Im sure you do but are just attention seeking.

More insults? Like another poster has stated, Give said we have had 4 years to prepare for this, what happened "

Gove

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Both sides are struggling? Does that make it more or less acceptable Just inevitable with the late nature of the deal but both sides are culpable not just the uk gov as the rant was implying.

Why do you care about the EU? Surely it is only important to focus on how the UK are dealing with the problem ?? Are you really that thick or just being contrary ? we can have the system working perfectly here in the uk but the good will not flow if its not working in the eu too.

Are you calling me thick? No need for that, I am aware of that, is this what ‘frictionless’ trade looks like You are aware you're thick? well that explains why you cant see that the late nature of the deal has meant that the computer systems on both sides are not up scratch at the moment and that all new systems need a bit of time to iron out the problems.remember that one for the future it might help you out.

Are you calling me thick again? Why resort to insults, no need for that is there? If you are going to act like it expect it is it so hard to understand both sides IT needs to be fit for purpose.Im sure you do but are just attention seeking.

More insults? Like another poster has stated, Give said we have had 4 years to prepare for this, what happened

Gove "

how do you prepare a system even in 10 years if you dont know what it needs to know until a couple of days before its needed,dont ask anymore stupid questions sit down and have a little think about it first and you will realize everything is not instant gratification like you have grown up to expect.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Both sides are struggling? Does that make it more or less acceptable Just inevitable with the late nature of the deal but both sides are culpable not just the uk gov as the rant was implying.

Why do you care about the EU? Surely it is only important to focus on how the UK are dealing with the problem ?? Are you really that thick or just being contrary ? we can have the system working perfectly here in the uk but the good will not flow if its not working in the eu too. "

The French fishermen are moaning that they can't get their product to UK markets as well.

Due to the last minute nature of the agreement, both sides could do well to agree a few weeks bedding in period.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Both sides are struggling? Does that make it more or less acceptable Just inevitable with the late nature of the deal but both sides are culpable not just the uk gov as the rant was implying.

Why do you care about the EU? Surely it is only important to focus on how the UK are dealing with the problem ?? Are you really that thick or just being contrary ? we can have the system working perfectly here in the uk but the good will not flow if its not working in the eu too.

The French fishermen are moaning that they can't get their product to UK markets as well.

Due to the last minute nature of the agreement, both sides could do well to agree a few weeks bedding in period. "

Exactly this, there was someone from the eu on the news earlier saying the same they want to buy the langoustines and the uk want to sell them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Both sides are struggling? Does that make it more or less acceptable Just inevitable with the late nature of the deal but both sides are culpable not just the uk gov as the rant was implying.

Why do you care about the EU? Surely it is only important to focus on how the UK are dealing with the problem ?? Are you really that thick or just being contrary ? we can have the system working perfectly here in the uk but the good will not flow if its not working in the eu too.

Are you calling me thick? No need for that, I am aware of that, is this what ‘frictionless’ trade looks like You are aware you're thick? well that explains why you cant see that the late nature of the deal has meant that the computer systems on both sides are not up scratch at the moment and that all new systems need a bit of time to iron out the problems.remember that one for the future it might help you out.

Are you calling me thick again? Why resort to insults, no need for that is there? If you are going to act like it expect it is it so hard to understand both sides IT needs to be fit for purpose.Im sure you do but are just attention seeking.

More insults? Like another poster has stated, Give said we have had 4 years to prepare for this, what happened

Gove how do you prepare a system even in 10 years if you dont know what it needs to know until a couple of days before its needed,dont ask anymore stupid questions sit down and have a little think about it first and you will realize everything is not instant gratification like you have grown up to expect. "

We were promised frictionless trade? Is that why a suitable IT system wasn’t in place ? Anyway, at least you have stopped the insults, which is good. How long will it take before the system is working properly?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Both sides are struggling? Does that make it more or less acceptable Just inevitable with the late nature of the deal but both sides are culpable not just the uk gov as the rant was implying.

Why do you care about the EU? Surely it is only important to focus on how the UK are dealing with the problem ?? Are you really that thick or just being contrary ? we can have the system working perfectly here in the uk but the good will not flow if its not working in the eu too.

The French fishermen are moaning that they can't get their product to UK markets as well.

Due to the last minute nature of the agreement, both sides could do well to agree a few weeks bedding in period. "

Yes, it does seem to be a mess, let’s hope this ‘bedding in period’ doesn’t take to long and we can go back to a system that was as easy and quick as we had before?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"What this agreement shows is the the EU has learnt nothing from its own history.

1 one of the reason for WW2 was the way Germany was treat after WW1 & the treaty of Versailles as kind of way of the allies trying to stop Germany getting strong again, but at the same time starving the everyday person. this gave way to the National Socialist German Workers' Party, gaining control.

2 one of the main reasons why the EU was formed to try to stop another another world war, always stated by the Europeans not the British

3 if there ever was another WW & I’m not saying there would be, but Britain seems to do alright in these.

So EU want to make us poor, I can’t believe you still love & support the EU, happy in the knowledge that they want to hurt the average UK person, you your partners your children & your friends. The EU don’t care about you & never did. Are you one of those people that want to be friends with your child’s bully (EU) because you hate your child (UK). I feel the hate from the same people on these threads all the time. Stop the hate & start to love before it’s to late xx

That has to be the most disgusting post I’ve seen on here. Do you live in a cave? Have you ever left the U.K. and spoken to another European.

Forgive if I get this wrong but didn’t Russia Poland Belgium Norway The Netherlands Finland, The US , and a dozen Commonwealth countries have some involvement in their people dying for our cause. The most successful fighter groups had Polish and Czechs flying our planes over our country. To defend not only us but to give us all a chance to fight on!

The First World War started in Serbia and was the result of the inbred relationships of the European royal families kicking off with nothing to do with any average everyday Europeans.

The second was by a murdering deceitful shit of a dictator who hid his true intentions until it was too stop him and the die was cast.

Your vitriol you have just spouted is totally the hate you condemn and what idiots of this world believe when they rally towards war.

If you believe that crap you’ve just spouted you are a very sad person indeed.

"

Some people have little grasp of history.

I remember a caller to a station saying if it wasnt for us..they would all be speaking German

Spectacular levels of ignorance

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?"

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

"

Could you not invite a journalist in to do a story?

The more exposure on this, the better surely.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

"

How do you manage to post all that if you're running a business and things are difficult now?

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By *or Fox SakeCouple
over a year ago

Thornaby


"Ooh look at that we were told yesterday remainers didnt make Brexit threads! Were we lied to "

If you voted for brexit you were very much lied to.

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By *renzMan
over a year ago

Between Chichester and Havant


"Ooh look at that we were told yesterday remainers didnt make Brexit threads! Were we lied to

If you voted for brexit you were very much lied to."

If you voted against Brexit you were lied to, too. Both sides lied, that's why you take what you hear and read with a large pinch of salt. Then make up your own mind.

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

How do you manage to post all that if you're running a business and things are difficult now? "

Because for years I worked my nuts off so that later like now I don’t have too. I pay people a shit load of money to deal with the problems. It’s called doing well for myself.

Hope that clears that conundrum up for you?

I’m posting to inform if you don’t want to know stuff then don’t read, it’s that easy. I thought being at the front end I could give first hand experience but you’d rather hear Gove bullshit you and say it’s all fine. Good for you.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

How do you manage to post all that if you're running a business and things are difficult now?

Because for years I worked my nuts off so that later like now I don’t have too. I pay people a shit load of money to deal with the problems. It’s called doing well for myself.

Hope that clears that conundrum up for you?

I’m posting to inform if you don’t want to know stuff then don’t read, it’s that easy. I thought being at the front end I could give first hand experience but you’d rather hear Gove bullshit you and say it’s all fine. Good for you. "

So how do you explain the eu having the same problems is that the uk,s governments fault too?

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

Could you not invite a journalist in to do a story?

The more exposure on this, the better surely. "

Oh yes that’s a good idea. Get in front of one of our biggest clients and tell them how shit they are!

Interestingly I spoke with a marketing guy in London yesterday complaining about stuff and he was asking a news agency for exposure and to do a press release for one of his clients. The response was we’re not leading on this at the min. No explanation just that! This is not a tv channel it’s a well respected agency. ( not one of the globals) Go figure.

Have you tried looking up banking funds moving to the EU and how much tax revenue we’ve lost? (£11b + and growing)

A month ago it was all over the financial news. Now nothing on Google. Now this was EY leading on that article not some tin pot outfit.

I don’t go in for weird conspiracy theories but I’m slightly disturbed by the Google thing. I know it was there as I’d looked it up to back up an argument on here I was having.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

How do you manage to post all that if you're running a business and things are difficult now?

Because for years I worked my nuts off so that later like now I don’t have too. I pay people a shit load of money to deal with the problems. It’s called doing well for myself.

Hope that clears that conundrum up for you?

I’m posting to inform if you don’t want to know stuff then don’t read, it’s that easy. I thought being at the front end I could give first hand experience but you’d rather hear Gove bullshit you and say it’s all fine. Good for you. So how do you explain the eu having the same problems is that the uk,s governments fault too?"

For once in your life instead of being a smartass why don't u take in what's being said.

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

How do you manage to post all that if you're running a business and things are difficult now?

Because for years I worked my nuts off so that later like now I don’t have too. I pay people a shit load of money to deal with the problems. It’s called doing well for myself.

Hope that clears that conundrum up for you?

I’m posting to inform if you don’t want to know stuff then don’t read, it’s that easy. I thought being at the front end I could give first hand experience but you’d rather hear Gove bullshit you and say it’s all fine. Good for you. So how do you explain the eu having the same problems is that the uk,s governments fault too?"

Absolutely I blame the U.K.

1. We voted to do this

2. No one knew what this was until the week before Christmas. So how does Europe prepare?

3. The IT crashing is a U.K. issue just so you’re aware.

As I mentioned earlier . Some businesses not being prepared is their own fault. Lack of IT capacity and customs ability is squarely at Gove’s feet as he was in charge of recruitment and updating HMRC IT.

Today we had an issue over an LRN number being obtained at a ferry. After some confusion with the ferry line we contacted HMRC helpline for advice. “Oh that’s too technical for us you’ll have to go through to our experienced specialists.”

After explaining our problem to the specialist his first question was “ is Immingham an inland clearance office?”

Now immingham being the biggest port in the U.K. by tonnage I would have thought a specialist would have a clue that it wasn’t just some third floor office based somewhere near Stoke!

Our logistics director was laughing for a long time so that cheered him up in the gloom.

Shambolic comes to mind,

Those car parks and inland centres should not be needed if the HMRC and their computers worked. Every other export we do is electronic.

It’s because they knew they couldn’t cope with the huge uplift in red tape and paperwork the centres were built. They knew it was going to be bad.

But get Brexit done and prosper mightily eh! Total fuckwhits.

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By *V-AliceTV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it. "

I do pay attention to the news. I don't need your permission to criticise the government - and as for the notion of you and your kind representing "most of us"; don't make me fucking laugh.

In terms of those who voted for Brexit, you represent the majority - but in no other way.

It's one of the many reasons "most of us", quite rightly, treat your opinions with disdain.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

How do you manage to post all that if you're running a business and things are difficult now?

Because for years I worked my nuts off so that later like now I don’t have too. I pay people a shit load of money to deal with the problems. It’s called doing well for myself.

Hope that clears that conundrum up for you?

I’m posting to inform if you don’t want to know stuff then don’t read, it’s that easy. I thought being at the front end I could give first hand experience but you’d rather hear Gove bullshit you and say it’s all fine. Good for you. So how do you explain the eu having the same problems is that the uk,s governments fault too?

For once in your life instead of being a smartass why don't u take in what's being said. "

I have, now who do i believe is more to the point a bloke who claims to own a multi million pound business has sat down in meetings with government ministers and seems to spend a hell of a lot of time on here or someone interviewed on tv today saying there are problems both sides of the boarder which both are trying to rectify as it is effecting trade both ways? mmmmmmmmm let me think about it a while

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

How do you manage to post all that if you're running a business and things are difficult now?

Because for years I worked my nuts off so that later like now I don’t have too. I pay people a shit load of money to deal with the problems. It’s called doing well for myself.

Hope that clears that conundrum up for you?

I’m posting to inform if you don’t want to know stuff then don’t read, it’s that easy. I thought being at the front end I could give first hand experience but you’d rather hear Gove bullshit you and say it’s all fine. Good for you. So how do you explain the eu having the same problems is that the uk,s governments fault too?

For once in your life instead of being a smartass why don't u take in what's being said. I have, now who do i believe is more to the point a bloke who claims to own a multi million pound business has sat down in meetings with government ministers and seems to spend a hell of a lot of time on here or someone interviewed on tv today saying there are problems both sides of the boarder which both are trying to rectify as it is effecting trade both ways? mmmmmmmmm let me think about it a while "

Just let me think. UK government guy interviewed today and says it's the foreigners fault. Let me think..lol just how naive are u brexiteers...no need to answer that one

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

How do you manage to post all that if you're running a business and things are difficult now?

Because for years I worked my nuts off so that later like now I don’t have too. I pay people a shit load of money to deal with the problems. It’s called doing well for myself.

Hope that clears that conundrum up for you?

I’m posting to inform if you don’t want to know stuff then don’t read, it’s that easy. I thought being at the front end I could give first hand experience but you’d rather hear Gove bullshit you and say it’s all fine. Good for you. So how do you explain the eu having the same problems is that the uk,s governments fault too?

For once in your life instead of being a smartass why don't u take in what's being said. I have, now who do i believe is more to the point a bloke who claims to own a multi million pound business has sat down in meetings with government ministers and seems to spend a hell of a lot of time on here or someone interviewed on tv today saying there are problems both sides of the boarder which both are trying to rectify as it is effecting trade both ways? mmmmmmmmm let me think about it a while

Just let me think. UK government guy interviewed today and says it's the foreigners fault. Let me think..lol just how naive are u brexiteers...no need to answer that one "

It was a fishery's woman in Dundee i didnt actually get her name or position but guess the tv company just didnt pick her randomly from the street to talk about it.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

How do you manage to post all that if you're running a business and things are difficult now?

Because for years I worked my nuts off so that later like now I don’t have too. I pay people a shit load of money to deal with the problems. It’s called doing well for myself.

Hope that clears that conundrum up for you?

I’m posting to inform if you don’t want to know stuff then don’t read, it’s that easy. I thought being at the front end I could give first hand experience but you’d rather hear Gove bullshit you and say it’s all fine. Good for you. So how do you explain the eu having the same problems is that the uk,s governments fault too?

For once in your life instead of being a smartass why don't u take in what's being said. I have, now who do i believe is more to the point a bloke who claims to own a multi million pound business has sat down in meetings with government ministers and seems to spend a hell of a lot of time on here or someone interviewed on tv today saying there are problems both sides of the boarder which both are trying to rectify as it is effecting trade both ways? mmmmmmmmm let me think about it a while

Just let me think. UK government guy interviewed today and says it's the foreigners fault. Let me think..lol just how naive are u brexiteers...no need to answer that one It was a fishery's woman in Dundee i didnt actually get her name or position but guess the tv company just didnt pick her randomly from the street to talk about it. "

Did they purposefully go looking for racists?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

How do you manage to post all that if you're running a business and things are difficult now?

Because for years I worked my nuts off so that later like now I don’t have too. I pay people a shit load of money to deal with the problems. It’s called doing well for myself.

Hope that clears that conundrum up for you?

I’m posting to inform if you don’t want to know stuff then don’t read, it’s that easy. I thought being at the front end I could give first hand experience but you’d rather hear Gove bullshit you and say it’s all fine. Good for you. So how do you explain the eu having the same problems is that the uk,s governments fault too?

For once in your life instead of being a smartass why don't u take in what's being said. I have, now who do i believe is more to the point a bloke who claims to own a multi million pound business has sat down in meetings with government ministers and seems to spend a hell of a lot of time on here or someone interviewed on tv today saying there are problems both sides of the boarder which both are trying to rectify as it is effecting trade both ways? mmmmmmmmm let me think about it a while

Just let me think. UK government guy interviewed today and says it's the foreigners fault. Let me think..lol just how naive are u brexiteers...no need to answer that one It was a fishery's woman in Dundee i didnt actually get her name or position but guess the tv company just didnt pick her randomly from the street to talk about it. "

So a random woman in dundee or a guy who's obiviously a logistics expert.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

How do you manage to post all that if you're running a business and things are difficult now?

Because for years I worked my nuts off so that later like now I don’t have too. I pay people a shit load of money to deal with the problems. It’s called doing well for myself.

Hope that clears that conundrum up for you?

I’m posting to inform if you don’t want to know stuff then don’t read, it’s that easy. I thought being at the front end I could give first hand experience but you’d rather hear Gove bullshit you and say it’s all fine. Good for you. So how do you explain the eu having the same problems is that the uk,s governments fault too?

For once in your life instead of being a smartass why don't u take in what's being said. I have, now who do i believe is more to the point a bloke who claims to own a multi million pound business has sat down in meetings with government ministers and seems to spend a hell of a lot of time on here or someone interviewed on tv today saying there are problems both sides of the boarder which both are trying to rectify as it is effecting trade both ways? mmmmmmmmm let me think about it a while

Just let me think. UK government guy interviewed today and says it's the foreigners fault. Let me think..lol just how naive are u brexiteers...no need to answer that one It was a fishery's woman in Dundee i didnt actually get her name or position but guess the tv company just didnt pick her randomly from the street to talk about it.

Did they purposefully go looking for racists?"

what are you on about now lionel? another post that makes absolutely no sense ive no idea what you are on but i would stop it cant be good for you.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

How do you manage to post all that if you're running a business and things are difficult now?

Because for years I worked my nuts off so that later like now I don’t have too. I pay people a shit load of money to deal with the problems. It’s called doing well for myself.

Hope that clears that conundrum up for you?

I’m posting to inform if you don’t want to know stuff then don’t read, it’s that easy. I thought being at the front end I could give first hand experience but you’d rather hear Gove bullshit you and say it’s all fine. Good for you. So how do you explain the eu having the same problems is that the uk,s governments fault too?

For once in your life instead of being a smartass why don't u take in what's being said. I have, now who do i believe is more to the point a bloke who claims to own a multi million pound business has sat down in meetings with government ministers and seems to spend a hell of a lot of time on here or someone interviewed on tv today saying there are problems both sides of the boarder which both are trying to rectify as it is effecting trade both ways? mmmmmmmmm let me think about it a while

Just let me think. UK government guy interviewed today and says it's the foreigners fault. Let me think..lol just how naive are u brexiteers...no need to answer that one It was a fishery's woman in Dundee i didnt actually get her name or position but guess the tv company just didnt pick her randomly from the street to talk about it.

So a random woman in dundee or a guy who's obiviously a logistics expert. "

I think i said probably not a random women and OBVIOUSLY an expert i would have thought you of all people know how easy it is to be who you want to be on here.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

I'm not copying all that

You questioned if she was picked randomly?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"I'm not copying all that

You questioned if she was picked randomly?"

No you didnt you ask if they looked for racists ffs mate get a grip

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

How do you manage to post all that if you're running a business and things are difficult now?

Because for years I worked my nuts off so that later like now I don’t have too. I pay people a shit load of money to deal with the problems. It’s called doing well for myself.

Hope that clears that conundrum up for you?

I’m posting to inform if you don’t want to know stuff then don’t read, it’s that easy. I thought being at the front end I could give first hand experience but you’d rather hear Gove bullshit you and say it’s all fine. Good for you. So how do you explain the eu having the same problems is that the uk,s governments fault too?

For once in your life instead of being a smartass why don't u take in what's being said. I have, now who do i believe is more to the point a bloke who claims to own a multi million pound business has sat down in meetings with government ministers and seems to spend a hell of a lot of time on here or someone interviewed on tv today saying there are problems both sides of the boarder which both are trying to rectify as it is effecting trade both ways? mmmmmmmmm let me think about it a while

Just let me think. UK government guy interviewed today and says it's the foreigners fault. Let me think..lol just how naive are u brexiteers...no need to answer that one It was a fishery's woman in Dundee i didnt actually get her name or position but guess the tv company just didnt pick her randomly from the street to talk about it.

So a random woman in dundee or a guy who's obiviously a logistics expert. I think i said probably not a random women and OBVIOUSLY an expert i would have thought you of all people know how easy it is to be who you want to be on here. "

So let's check again...a random "fishery's woman", whatever that is , no name, dont know her position, does she sweep the floor ?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

How do you manage to post all that if you're running a business and things are difficult now?

Because for years I worked my nuts off so that later like now I don’t have too. I pay people a shit load of money to deal with the problems. It’s called doing well for myself.

Hope that clears that conundrum up for you?

I’m posting to inform if you don’t want to know stuff then don’t read, it’s that easy. I thought being at the front end I could give first hand experience but you’d rather hear Gove bullshit you and say it’s all fine. Good for you. So how do you explain the eu having the same problems is that the uk,s governments fault too?

For once in your life instead of being a smartass why don't u take in what's being said. I have, now who do i believe is more to the point a bloke who claims to own a multi million pound business has sat down in meetings with government ministers and seems to spend a hell of a lot of time on here or someone interviewed on tv today saying there are problems both sides of the boarder which both are trying to rectify as it is effecting trade both ways? mmmmmmmmm let me think about it a while

Just let me think. UK government guy interviewed today and says it's the foreigners fault. Let me think..lol just how naive are u brexiteers...no need to answer that one It was a fishery's woman in Dundee i didnt actually get her name or position but guess the tv company just didnt pick her randomly from the street to talk about it.

So a random woman in dundee or a guy who's obiviously a logistics expert. I think i said probably not a random women and OBVIOUSLY an expert i would have thought you of all people know how easy it is to be who you want to be on here.

So let's check again...a random "fishery's woman", whatever that is , no name, dont know her position, does she sweep the floor ? "

No idea but probably more believable than most on here.

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over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

How do you manage to post all that if you're running a business and things are difficult now?

Because for years I worked my nuts off so that later like now I don’t have too. I pay people a shit load of money to deal with the problems. It’s called doing well for myself.

Hope that clears that conundrum up for you?

I’m posting to inform if you don’t want to know stuff then don’t read, it’s that easy. I thought being at the front end I could give first hand experience but you’d rather hear Gove bullshit you and say it’s all fine. Good for you. So how do you explain the eu having the same problems is that the uk,s governments fault too?

For once in your life instead of being a smartass why don't u take in what's being said. I have, now who do i believe is more to the point a bloke who claims to own a multi million pound business has sat down in meetings with government ministers and seems to spend a hell of a lot of time on here or someone interviewed on tv today saying there are problems both sides of the boarder which both are trying to rectify as it is effecting trade both ways? mmmmmmmmm let me think about it a while

Just let me think. UK government guy interviewed today and says it's the foreigners fault. Let me think..lol just how naive are u brexiteers...no need to answer that one It was a fishery's woman in Dundee i didnt actually get her name or position but guess the tv company just didnt pick her randomly from the street to talk about it.

So a random woman in dundee or a guy who's obiviously a logistics expert. I think i said probably not a random women and OBVIOUSLY an expert i would have thought you of all people know how easy it is to be who you want to be on here.

So let's check again...a random "fishery's woman", whatever that is , no name, dont know her position, does she sweep the floor ? No idea but probably more believable than most on here. "

She was probably going for a swim.

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

How do you manage to post all that if you're running a business and things are difficult now?

Because for years I worked my nuts off so that later like now I don’t have too. I pay people a shit load of money to deal with the problems. It’s called doing well for myself.

Hope that clears that conundrum up for you?

I’m posting to inform if you don’t want to know stuff then don’t read, it’s that easy. I thought being at the front end I could give first hand experience but you’d rather hear Gove bullshit you and say it’s all fine. Good for you. So how do you explain the eu having the same problems is that the uk,s governments fault too?

For once in your life instead of being a smartass why don't u take in what's being said. I have, now who do i believe is more to the point a bloke who claims to own a multi million pound business has sat down in meetings with government ministers and seems to spend a hell of a lot of time on here or someone interviewed on tv today saying there are problems both sides of the boarder which both are trying to rectify as it is effecting trade both ways? mmmmmmmmm let me think about it a while "

Costa we work in a small way for the home office so actually yes we do have meetings . We’re not in the cabinet meetings just our lowly selves and a usual government tit !

I’m retiring this year so can spend time on what the fuck I like . No ones going to tell me off for being on my phone. I own the fucking place so they will only try once!

Do you work or just sit at home and bitch about fellow fabbers?

Slowly winding myself out this year so can’t wait. . .

Anything else you wish to know ?

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

How do you manage to post all that if you're running a business and things are difficult now?

Because for years I worked my nuts off so that later like now I don’t have too. I pay people a shit load of money to deal with the problems. It’s called doing well for myself.

Hope that clears that conundrum up for you?

I’m posting to inform if you don’t want to know stuff then don’t read, it’s that easy. I thought being at the front end I could give first hand experience but you’d rather hear Gove bullshit you and say it’s all fine. Good for you. So how do you explain the eu having the same problems is that the uk,s governments fault too?

For once in your life instead of being a smartass why don't u take in what's being said. I have, now who do i believe is more to the point a bloke who claims to own a multi million pound business has sat down in meetings with government ministers and seems to spend a hell of a lot of time on here or someone interviewed on tv today saying there are problems both sides of the boarder which both are trying to rectify as it is effecting trade both ways? mmmmmmmmm let me think about it a while

Costa we work in a small way for the home office so actually yes we do have meetings . We’re not in the cabinet meetings just our lowly selves and a usual government tit !

I’m retiring this year so can spend time on what the fuck I like . No ones going to tell me off for being on my phone. I own the fucking place so they will only try once!

Do you work or just sit at home and bitch about fellow fabbers?

Slowly winding myself out this year so can’t wait. . .

Anything else you wish to know ? "

well jackal mate I hope covid as pissed off sp you can enjoy yr retirement on ya travels good for you buddy

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

How do you manage to post all that if you're running a business and things are difficult now?

Because for years I worked my nuts off so that later like now I don’t have too. I pay people a shit load of money to deal with the problems. It’s called doing well for myself.

Hope that clears that conundrum up for you?

I’m posting to inform if you don’t want to know stuff then don’t read, it’s that easy. I thought being at the front end I could give first hand experience but you’d rather hear Gove bullshit you and say it’s all fine. Good for you. So how do you explain the eu having the same problems is that the uk,s governments fault too?

For once in your life instead of being a smartass why don't u take in what's being said. I have, now who do i believe is more to the point a bloke who claims to own a multi million pound business has sat down in meetings with government ministers and seems to spend a hell of a lot of time on here or someone interviewed on tv today saying there are problems both sides of the boarder which both are trying to rectify as it is effecting trade both ways? mmmmmmmmm let me think about it a while

Costa we work in a small way for the home office so actually yes we do have meetings . We’re not in the cabinet meetings just our lowly selves and a usual government tit !

I’m retiring this year so can spend time on what the fuck I like . No ones going to tell me off for being on my phone. I own the fucking place so they will only try once!

Do you work or just sit at home and bitch about fellow fabbers?

Slowly winding myself out this year so can’t wait. . .

Anything else you wish to know ? "

No mate couldnt give a toss about people i dont know and will never meet,yeah I've retired but not sitting at home by choice just doing my bit for the pandemic.Im trying to complete on my latest property before the stamp duty holiday ends and will then have something to occupy my time.Until that happens i will continue amusing myself on here.

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over a year ago

Don’t despair, according to JRM speech in the commons the fish are now happy because they are British, I wonder who told them

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"Don’t despair, according to JRM speech in the commons the fish are now happy because they are British, I wonder who told them "
aw same as me then lol

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over a year ago


" No mate couldnt give a toss about people i dont know and will never meet,"

This country is getting more and more like the US.

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over a year ago


" No mate couldnt give a toss about people i dont know and will never meet,

This country is getting more and more like the US."

You can tell he is a Tory voter

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


" No mate couldnt give a toss about people i dont know and will never meet,

This country is getting more and more like the US.

You can tell he is a Tory voter "

I make no secret of that.

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over a year ago


" No mate couldnt give a toss about people i dont know and will never meet,

This country is getting more and more like the US.

You can tell he is a Tory voter I make no secret of that. "

Obviously as you ‘couldn’t give a toss about people you don’t know and will never meet ‘ straight from the Tory playbook

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

How do you manage to post all that if you're running a business and things are difficult now?

Because for years I worked my nuts off so that later like now I don’t have too. I pay people a shit load of money to deal with the problems. It’s called doing well for myself.

Hope that clears that conundrum up for you?

I’m posting to inform if you don’t want to know stuff then don’t read, it’s that easy. I thought being at the front end I could give first hand experience but you’d rather hear Gove bullshit you and say it’s all fine. Good for you. So how do you explain the eu having the same problems is that the uk,s governments fault too?

For once in your life instead of being a smartass why don't u take in what's being said. I have, now who do i believe is more to the point a bloke who claims to own a multi million pound business has sat down in meetings with government ministers and seems to spend a hell of a lot of time on here or someone interviewed on tv today saying there are problems both sides of the boarder which both are trying to rectify as it is effecting trade both ways? mmmmmmmmm let me think about it a while

Costa we work in a small way for the home office so actually yes we do have meetings . We’re not in the cabinet meetings just our lowly selves and a usual government tit !

I’m retiring this year so can spend time on what the fuck I like . No ones going to tell me off for being on my phone. I own the fucking place so they will only try once!

Do you work or just sit at home and bitch about fellow fabbers?

Slowly winding myself out this year so can’t wait. . .

Anything else you wish to know ? No mate couldnt give a toss about people i dont know and will never meet,yeah I've retired but not sitting at home by choice just doing my bit for the pandemic.Im trying to complete on my latest property before the stamp duty holiday ends and will then have something to occupy my time.Until that happens i will continue amusing myself on here. "

Good luck with the house mate.

I didn’t know you had to be poor to be a swinger ?

Thought it was just fun ?

Oh and I do care about people I don’t know.

I don’t like to think of anyone being worse off or unemployed .

I’m alright Jack isn’t my path. Brexit won’t hurt me as much as others but if I can see the costs piling up then some must be bleeding.

Ferry companies and HMRC falling out tonight over paperwork. One of the lines stopping all non contracted clients on container service until February. That’s seriously bad news for some.

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

How do you manage to post all that if you're running a business and things are difficult now?

Because for years I worked my nuts off so that later like now I don’t have too. I pay people a shit load of money to deal with the problems. It’s called doing well for myself.

Hope that clears that conundrum up for you?

I’m posting to inform if you don’t want to know stuff then don’t read, it’s that easy. I thought being at the front end I could give first hand experience but you’d rather hear Gove bullshit you and say it’s all fine. Good for you. So how do you explain the eu having the same problems is that the uk,s governments fault too?

For once in your life instead of being a smartass why don't u take in what's being said. I have, now who do i believe is more to the point a bloke who claims to own a multi million pound business has sat down in meetings with government ministers and seems to spend a hell of a lot of time on here or someone interviewed on tv today saying there are problems both sides of the boarder which both are trying to rectify as it is effecting trade both ways? mmmmmmmmm let me think about it a while

Costa we work in a small way for the home office so actually yes we do have meetings . We’re not in the cabinet meetings just our lowly selves and a usual government tit !

I’m retiring this year so can spend time on what the fuck I like . No ones going to tell me off for being on my phone. I own the fucking place so they will only try once!

Do you work or just sit at home and bitch about fellow fabbers?

Slowly winding myself out this year so can’t wait. . .

Anything else you wish to know ? No mate couldnt give a toss about people i dont know and will never meet,yeah I've retired but not sitting at home by choice just doing my bit for the pandemic.Im trying to complete on my latest property before the stamp duty holiday ends and will then have something to occupy my time.Until that happens i will continue amusing myself on here.

Good luck with the house mate.

I didn’t know you had to be poor to be a swinger ?

Thought it was just fun ?

Oh and I do care about people I don’t know.

I don’t like to think of anyone being worse off or unemployed .

I’m alright Jack isn’t my path. Brexit won’t hurt me as much as others but if I can see the costs piling up then some must be bleeding.

Ferry companies and HMRC falling out tonight over paperwork. One of the lines stopping all non contracted clients on container service until February. That’s seriously bad news for some.

"

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

How do you manage to post all that if you're running a business and things are difficult now?

Because for years I worked my nuts off so that later like now I don’t have too. I pay people a shit load of money to deal with the problems. It’s called doing well for myself.

Hope that clears that conundrum up for you?

I’m posting to inform if you don’t want to know stuff then don’t read, it’s that easy. I thought being at the front end I could give first hand experience but you’d rather hear Gove bullshit you and say it’s all fine. Good for you. So how do you explain the eu having the same problems is that the uk,s governments fault too?

For once in your life instead of being a smartass why don't u take in what's being said. I have, now who do i believe is more to the point a bloke who claims to own a multi million pound business has sat down in meetings with government ministers and seems to spend a hell of a lot of time on here or someone interviewed on tv today saying there are problems both sides of the boarder which both are trying to rectify as it is effecting trade both ways? mmmmmmmmm let me think about it a while

Costa we work in a small way for the home office so actually yes we do have meetings . We’re not in the cabinet meetings just our lowly selves and a usual government tit !

I’m retiring this year so can spend time on what the fuck I like . No ones going to tell me off for being on my phone. I own the fucking place so they will only try once!

Do you work or just sit at home and bitch about fellow fabbers?

Slowly winding myself out this year so can’t wait. . .

Anything else you wish to know ? No mate couldnt give a toss about people i dont know and will never meet,yeah I've retired but not sitting at home by choice just doing my bit for the pandemic.Im trying to complete on my latest property before the stamp duty holiday ends and will then have something to occupy my time.Until that happens i will continue amusing myself on here.

Good luck with the house mate.

I didn’t know you had to be poor to be a swinger ?

Thought it was just fun ?

Oh and I do care about people I don’t know.

I don’t like to think of anyone being worse off or unemployed .

I’m alright Jack isn’t my path. Brexit won’t hurt me as much as others but if I can see the costs piling up then some must be bleeding.

Ferry companies and HMRC falling out tonight over paperwork. One of the lines stopping all non contracted clients on container service until February. That’s seriously bad news for some.

"

Have to be poor to be a swinger where did you get that from?

good for you mate lets hope you dont get conned too much by random people on the internet, im not that stupid. I would rather care about people i know personally

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


" No mate couldnt give a toss about people i dont know and will never meet,

This country is getting more and more like the US.

You can tell he is a Tory voter I make no secret of that. "

So was I until Boris . He’s just a liar and opportunist.

He developed his unkept appearance at uni to make himself more interesting. His own words!

That’s the kind of knob we have in charge .

Answers difficult questions with Latin bollocks or prosper greatly.

Gove - the back stabber from hell.

Rees Mogg - I’ll move to Ireland but you poor twats have to suck it up to save me some tax.

Preti - Just do as you’re fucking told pleb!

Hancock - sympathy as he’s got poisoned chalice but PPE corruption just a disgrace .

Rishi - Most composed and grown up but surrounded by dross so can’t really tell. Hoping he’s not just another tax evader with family cash. Jury is out but hopeful .

Grayling - DFDS thanks for £10m donation ha ha ha ha he actually gave them and others free money. Just a total joke.

Not fit to govern our great country.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" No mate couldnt give a toss about people i dont know and will never meet,

This country is getting more and more like the US.

You can tell he is a Tory voter I make no secret of that. "

Is not giving a toss about other people a positive Tory trait?

Seems like you would want your government to give a toss about the people?

Strange times.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


" No mate couldnt give a toss about people i dont know and will never meet,

This country is getting more and more like the US.

You can tell he is a Tory voter I make no secret of that.

So was I until Boris . He’s just a liar and opportunist.

He developed his unkept appearance at uni to make himself more interesting. His own words!

That’s the kind of knob we have in charge .

Answers difficult questions with Latin bollocks or prosper greatly.

Gove - the back stabber from hell.

Rees Mogg - I’ll move to Ireland but you poor twats have to suck it up to save me some tax.

Preti - Just do as you’re fucking told pleb!

Hancock - sympathy as he’s got poisoned chalice but PPE corruption just a disgrace .

Rishi - Most composed and grown up but surrounded by dross so can’t really tell. Hoping he’s not just another tax evader with family cash. Jury is out but hopeful .

Grayling - DFDS thanks for £10m donation ha ha ha ha he actually gave them and others free money. Just a total joke.

Not fit to govern our great country.

"

Or is it you're just pissed off because they finally managed brexit?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" No mate couldnt give a toss about people i dont know and will never meet,

This country is getting more and more like the US.

You can tell he is a Tory voter I make no secret of that.

So was I until Boris . He’s just a liar and opportunist.

He developed his unkept appearance at uni to make himself more interesting. His own words!

That’s the kind of knob we have in charge .

Answers difficult questions with Latin bollocks or prosper greatly.

Gove - the back stabber from hell.

Rees Mogg - I’ll move to Ireland but you poor twats have to suck it up to save me some tax.

Preti - Just do as you’re fucking told pleb!

Hancock - sympathy as he’s got poisoned chalice but PPE corruption just a disgrace .

Rishi - Most composed and grown up but surrounded by dross so can’t really tell. Hoping he’s not just another tax evader with family cash. Jury is out but hopeful .

Grayling - DFDS thanks for £10m donation ha ha ha ha he actually gave them and others free money. Just a total joke.

Not fit to govern our great country.

Or is it you're just pissed off because they finally managed brexit? "

‘Managed’

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


" No mate couldnt give a toss about people i dont know and will never meet,

This country is getting more and more like the US.

You can tell he is a Tory voter I make no secret of that.

Is not giving a toss about other people a positive Tory trait?

Seems like you would want your government to give a toss about the people?

Strange times."

Im sure there are socialists,communists and liberals who really couldnt give a toss about random people posting on the internet i doubt its just a tory trait.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" No mate couldnt give a toss about people i dont know and will never meet,

This country is getting more and more like the US.

You can tell he is a Tory voter I make no secret of that.

Is not giving a toss about other people a positive Tory trait?

Seems like you would want your government to give a toss about the people?

Strange times.Im sure there are socialists,communists and liberals who really couldnt give a toss about random people posting on the internet i doubt its just a tory trait. "

Ah, so is it people you don’t know on here or just people in general ?

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

How do you manage to post all that if you're running a business and things are difficult now?

Because for years I worked my nuts off so that later like now I don’t have too. I pay people a shit load of money to deal with the problems. It’s called doing well for myself.

Hope that clears that conundrum up for you?

I’m posting to inform if you don’t want to know stuff then don’t read, it’s that easy. I thought being at the front end I could give first hand experience but you’d rather hear Gove bullshit you and say it’s all fine. Good for you. So how do you explain the eu having the same problems is that the uk,s governments fault too?

For once in your life instead of being a smartass why don't u take in what's being said. I have, now who do i believe is more to the point a bloke who claims to own a multi million pound business has sat down in meetings with government ministers and seems to spend a hell of a lot of time on here or someone interviewed on tv today saying there are problems both sides of the boarder which both are trying to rectify as it is effecting trade both ways? mmmmmmmmm let me think about it a while

Costa we work in a small way for the home office so actually yes we do have meetings . We’re not in the cabinet meetings just our lowly selves and a usual government tit !

I’m retiring this year so can spend time on what the fuck I like . No ones going to tell me off for being on my phone. I own the fucking place so they will only try once!

Do you work or just sit at home and bitch about fellow fabbers?

Slowly winding myself out this year so can’t wait. . .

Anything else you wish to know ? No mate couldnt give a toss about people i dont know and will never meet,yeah I've retired but not sitting at home by choice just doing my bit for the pandemic.Im trying to complete on my latest property before the stamp duty holiday ends and will then have something to occupy my time.Until that happens i will continue amusing myself on here.

Good luck with the house mate.

I didn’t know you had to be poor to be a swinger ?

Thought it was just fun ?

Oh and I do care about people I don’t know.

I don’t like to think of anyone being worse off or unemployed .

I’m alright Jack isn’t my path. Brexit won’t hurt me as much as others but if I can see the costs piling up then some must be bleeding.

Ferry companies and HMRC falling out tonight over paperwork. One of the lines stopping all non contracted clients on container service until February. That’s seriously bad news for some.

Have to be poor to be a swinger where did you get that from?

good for you mate lets hope you dont get conned too much by random people on the internet, im not that stupid. I would rather care about people i know personally "

Poor to be a swinger...

Why else did you mention multi millionaire as I’ve never done that?

It’s obviously takes up your thoughts

I only know a very few people on here personally away from fab.

I worry for the hard workers in this country who for no fault of their own will lose their jobs over Brexit .

That’s just being human isn’t it or do we just just say fuck you these days?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


" No mate couldnt give a toss about people i dont know and will never meet,

This country is getting more and more like the US.

You can tell he is a Tory voter I make no secret of that.

Is not giving a toss about other people a positive Tory trait?

Seems like you would want your government to give a toss about the people?

Strange times.Im sure there are socialists,communists and liberals who really couldnt give a toss about random people posting on the internet i doubt its just a tory trait.

Ah, so is it people you don’t know on here or just people in general ? "

Yes i should really have made that a bit clearer on here.It really doesnt help when some keep changing their name and location and spout the same crap so that it looks as if more people agree with them, it breeds distrust in everyone.

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


" No mate couldnt give a toss about people i dont know and will never meet,

This country is getting more and more like the US.

You can tell he is a Tory voter I make no secret of that.

So was I until Boris . He’s just a liar and opportunist.

He developed his unkept appearance at uni to make himself more interesting. His own words!

That’s the kind of knob we have in charge .

Answers difficult questions with Latin bollocks or prosper greatly.

Gove - the back stabber from hell.

Rees Mogg - I’ll move to Ireland but you poor twats have to suck it up to save me some tax.

Preti - Just do as you’re fucking told pleb!

Hancock - sympathy as he’s got poisoned chalice but PPE corruption just a disgrace .

Rishi - Most composed and grown up but surrounded by dross so can’t really tell. Hoping he’s not just another tax evader with family cash. Jury is out but hopeful .

Grayling - DFDS thanks for £10m donation ha ha ha ha he actually gave them and others free money. Just a total joke.

Not fit to govern our great country.

Or is it you're just pissed off because they finally managed brexit? "

I can think about my country as more than Brexit. It appears you can’t . Sad

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

How do you manage to post all that if you're running a business and things are difficult now?

Because for years I worked my nuts off so that later like now I don’t have too. I pay people a shit load of money to deal with the problems. It’s called doing well for myself.

Hope that clears that conundrum up for you?

I’m posting to inform if you don’t want to know stuff then don’t read, it’s that easy. I thought being at the front end I could give first hand experience but you’d rather hear Gove bullshit you and say it’s all fine. Good for you. So how do you explain the eu having the same problems is that the uk,s governments fault too?

For once in your life instead of being a smartass why don't u take in what's being said. I have, now who do i believe is more to the point a bloke who claims to own a multi million pound business has sat down in meetings with government ministers and seems to spend a hell of a lot of time on here or someone interviewed on tv today saying there are problems both sides of the boarder which both are trying to rectify as it is effecting trade both ways? mmmmmmmmm let me think about it a while

Costa we work in a small way for the home office so actually yes we do have meetings . We’re not in the cabinet meetings just our lowly selves and a usual government tit !

I’m retiring this year so can spend time on what the fuck I like . No ones going to tell me off for being on my phone. I own the fucking place so they will only try once!

Do you work or just sit at home and bitch about fellow fabbers?

Slowly winding myself out this year so can’t wait. . .

Anything else you wish to know ? No mate couldnt give a toss about people i dont know and will never meet,yeah I've retired but not sitting at home by choice just doing my bit for the pandemic.Im trying to complete on my latest property before the stamp duty holiday ends and will then have something to occupy my time.Until that happens i will continue amusing myself on here.

Good luck with the house mate.

I didn’t know you had to be poor to be a swinger ?

Thought it was just fun ?

Oh and I do care about people I don’t know.

I don’t like to think of anyone being worse off or unemployed .

I’m alright Jack isn’t my path. Brexit won’t hurt me as much as others but if I can see the costs piling up then some must be bleeding.

Ferry companies and HMRC falling out tonight over paperwork. One of the lines stopping all non contracted clients on container service until February. That’s seriously bad news for some.

Have to be poor to be a swinger where did you get that from?

good for you mate lets hope you dont get conned too much by random people on the internet, im not that stupid. I would rather care about people i know personally

Poor to be a swinger...

Why else did you mention multi millionaire as I’ve never done that?

It’s obviously takes up your thoughts

I only know a very few people on here personally away from fab.

I worry for the hard workers in this country who for no fault of their own will lose their jobs over Brexit .

That’s just being human isn’t it or do we just just say fuck you these days?

"

yes you have and having meetings with government ministers do you think i just make shit up?

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" No mate couldnt give a toss about people i dont know and will never meet,

This country is getting more and more like the US.

You can tell he is a Tory voter I make no secret of that.

Is not giving a toss about other people a positive Tory trait?

Seems like you would want your government to give a toss about the people?

Strange times.Im sure there are socialists,communists and liberals who really couldnt give a toss about random people posting on the internet i doubt its just a tory trait. "

Interesting. Yeah sure there are misanthropic people from all over the spectrum.

Strange that it's seen as a positive trait, especially for the government.

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" No mate couldnt give a toss about people i dont know and will never meet,

This country is getting more and more like the US.

You can tell he is a Tory voter I make no secret of that.

Is not giving a toss about other people a positive Tory trait?

Seems like you would want your government to give a toss about the people?

Strange times.Im sure there are socialists,communists and liberals who really couldnt give a toss about random people posting on the internet i doubt its just a tory trait.

Ah, so is it people you don’t know on here or just people in general ? Yes i should really have made that a bit clearer on here.It really doesnt help when some keep changing their name and location and spout the same crap so that it looks as if more people agree with them, it breeds distrust in everyone. "

I am not sure what you mean but I am glad you have clarified what you ment

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


" No mate couldnt give a toss about people i dont know and will never meet,

This country is getting more and more like the US.

You can tell he is a Tory voter I make no secret of that.

Is not giving a toss about other people a positive Tory trait?

Seems like you would want your government to give a toss about the people?

Strange times.Im sure there are socialists,communists and liberals who really couldnt give a toss about random people posting on the internet i doubt its just a tory trait.

Ah, so is it people you don’t know on here or just people in general ? Yes i should really have made that a bit clearer on here.It really doesnt help when some keep changing their name and location and spout the same crap so that it looks as if more people agree with them, it breeds distrust in everyone.

I am not sure what you mean but I am glad you have clarified what you ment "

you're welcome when meets were allowed did you take on face value people who contacted you, were not site supporters, had only just joined and had no verifications? because ive had plenty and believe it or not the majority are not real.

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over a year ago


" No mate couldnt give a toss about people i dont know and will never meet,

This country is getting more and more like the US.

You can tell he is a Tory voter I make no secret of that.

Is not giving a toss about other people a positive Tory trait?

Seems like you would want your government to give a toss about the people?

Strange times.Im sure there are socialists,communists and liberals who really couldnt give a toss about random people posting on the internet i doubt its just a tory trait.

Ah, so is it people you don’t know on here or just people in general ? Yes i should really have made that a bit clearer on here.It really doesnt help when some keep changing their name and location and spout the same crap so that it looks as if more people agree with them, it breeds distrust in everyone.

I am not sure what you mean but I am glad you have clarified what you ment you're welcome when meets were allowed did you take on face value people who contacted you, were not site supporters, had only just joined and had no verifications? because ive had plenty and believe it or not the majority are not real. "

I only meet people I have spoken on the phone with,

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


" No mate couldnt give a toss about people i dont know and will never meet,

This country is getting more and more like the US.

You can tell he is a Tory voter I make no secret of that.

Is not giving a toss about other people a positive Tory trait?

Seems like you would want your government to give a toss about the people?

Strange times.Im sure there are socialists,communists and liberals who really couldnt give a toss about random people posting on the internet i doubt its just a tory trait.

Ah, so is it people you don’t know on here or just people in general ? Yes i should really have made that a bit clearer on here.It really doesnt help when some keep changing their name and location and spout the same crap so that it looks as if more people agree with them, it breeds distrust in everyone.

I am not sure what you mean but I am glad you have clarified what you ment you're welcome when meets were allowed did you take on face value people who contacted you, were not site supporters, had only just joined and had no verifications? because ive had plenty and believe it or not the majority are not real.

I only meet people I have spoken on the phone with, "

Exactly the same, so you too have a distrust of some on the internet you can now see where im coming from.

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

How do you manage to post all that if you're running a business and things are difficult now?

Because for years I worked my nuts off so that later like now I don’t have too. I pay people a shit load of money to deal with the problems. It’s called doing well for myself.

Hope that clears that conundrum up for you?

I’m posting to inform if you don’t want to know stuff then don’t read, it’s that easy. I thought being at the front end I could give first hand experience but you’d rather hear Gove bullshit you and say it’s all fine. Good for you. So how do you explain the eu having the same problems is that the uk,s governments fault too?

For once in your life instead of being a smartass why don't u take in what's being said. I have, now who do i believe is more to the point a bloke who claims to own a multi million pound business has sat down in meetings with government ministers and seems to spend a hell of a lot of time on here or someone interviewed on tv today saying there are problems both sides of the boarder which both are trying to rectify as it is effecting trade both ways? mmmmmmmmm let me think about it a while

Costa we work in a small way for the home office so actually yes we do have meetings . We’re not in the cabinet meetings just our lowly selves and a usual government tit !

I’m retiring this year so can spend time on what the fuck I like . No ones going to tell me off for being on my phone. I own the fucking place so they will only try once!

Do you work or just sit at home and bitch about fellow fabbers?

Slowly winding myself out this year so can’t wait. . .

Anything else you wish to know ? No mate couldnt give a toss about people i dont know and will never meet,yeah I've retired but not sitting at home by choice just doing my bit for the pandemic.Im trying to complete on my latest property before the stamp duty holiday ends and will then have something to occupy my time.Until that happens i will continue amusing myself on here.

Good luck with the house mate.

I didn’t know you had to be poor to be a swinger ?

Thought it was just fun ?

Oh and I do care about people I don’t know.

I don’t like to think of anyone being worse off or unemployed .

I’m alright Jack isn’t my path. Brexit won’t hurt me as much as others but if I can see the costs piling up then some must be bleeding.

Ferry companies and HMRC falling out tonight over paperwork. One of the lines stopping all non contracted clients on container service until February. That’s seriously bad news for some.

Have to be poor to be a swinger where did you get that from?

good for you mate lets hope you dont get conned too much by random people on the internet, im not that stupid. I would rather care about people i know personally

Poor to be a swinger...

Why else did you mention multi millionaire as I’ve never done that?

It’s obviously takes up your thoughts

I only know a very few people on here personally away from fab.

I worry for the hard workers in this country who for no fault of their own will lose their jobs over Brexit .

That’s just being human isn’t it or do we just just say fuck you these days?

yes you have and having meetings with government ministers do you think i just make shit up? "

Please point out where I’ve said anything about my worth?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

How do you manage to post all that if you're running a business and things are difficult now?

Because for years I worked my nuts off so that later like now I don’t have too. I pay people a shit load of money to deal with the problems. It’s called doing well for myself.

Hope that clears that conundrum up for you?

I’m posting to inform if you don’t want to know stuff then don’t read, it’s that easy. I thought being at the front end I could give first hand experience but you’d rather hear Gove bullshit you and say it’s all fine. Good for you. So how do you explain the eu having the same problems is that the uk,s governments fault too?

For once in your life instead of being a smartass why don't u take in what's being said. I have, now who do i believe is more to the point a bloke who claims to own a multi million pound business has sat down in meetings with government ministers and seems to spend a hell of a lot of time on here or someone interviewed on tv today saying there are problems both sides of the boarder which both are trying to rectify as it is effecting trade both ways? mmmmmmmmm let me think about it a while

Costa we work in a small way for the home office so actually yes we do have meetings . We’re not in the cabinet meetings just our lowly selves and a usual government tit !

I’m retiring this year so can spend time on what the fuck I like . No ones going to tell me off for being on my phone. I own the fucking place so they will only try once!

Do you work or just sit at home and bitch about fellow fabbers?

Slowly winding myself out this year so can’t wait. . .

Anything else you wish to know ? No mate couldnt give a toss about people i dont know and will never meet,yeah I've retired but not sitting at home by choice just doing my bit for the pandemic.Im trying to complete on my latest property before the stamp duty holiday ends and will then have something to occupy my time.Until that happens i will continue amusing myself on here.

Good luck with the house mate.

I didn’t know you had to be poor to be a swinger ?

Thought it was just fun ?

Oh and I do care about people I don’t know.

I don’t like to think of anyone being worse off or unemployed .

I’m alright Jack isn’t my path. Brexit won’t hurt me as much as others but if I can see the costs piling up then some must be bleeding.

Ferry companies and HMRC falling out tonight over paperwork. One of the lines stopping all non contracted clients on container service until February. That’s seriously bad news for some.

Have to be poor to be a swinger where did you get that from?

good for you mate lets hope you dont get conned too much by random people on the internet, im not that stupid. I would rather care about people i know personally

Poor to be a swinger...

Why else did you mention multi millionaire as I’ve never done that?

It’s obviously takes up your thoughts

I only know a very few people on here personally away from fab.

I worry for the hard workers in this country who for no fault of their own will lose their jobs over Brexit .

That’s just being human isn’t it or do we just just say fuck you these days?

yes you have and having meetings with government ministers do you think i just make shit up?

Please point out where I’ve said anything about my worth?

"

mate how long have we been talking on here ? i cant go back over months of posts to find the exact post as you well know.

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"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

‘Survive’ is that the goal now? "

well slowly over the years these industries have decreased due to overseas importing...its cheaper....id rather pay more to keep the uk going but each to their own i guess xxx

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"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

‘Survive’ is that the goal now?

well slowly over the years these industries have decreased due to overseas importing...its cheaper....id rather pay more to keep the uk going but each to their own i guess xxx"

Most of your fellow brexiteers are arguing that the UK will import more stuff from further afield.

Was there a reason you could support local businesses when we were in the EU?

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over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

Is that a speech from boris?"

yes he personally contacted me to covey it to you all xxxx

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

How do you manage to post all that if you're running a business and things are difficult now?

Because for years I worked my nuts off so that later like now I don’t have too. I pay people a shit load of money to deal with the problems. It’s called doing well for myself.

Hope that clears that conundrum up for you?

I’m posting to inform if you don’t want to know stuff then don’t read, it’s that easy. I thought being at the front end I could give first hand experience but you’d rather hear Gove bullshit you and say it’s all fine. Good for you. So how do you explain the eu having the same problems is that the uk,s governments fault too?

For once in your life instead of being a smartass why don't u take in what's being said. I have, now who do i believe is more to the point a bloke who claims to own a multi million pound business has sat down in meetings with government ministers and seems to spend a hell of a lot of time on here or someone interviewed on tv today saying there are problems both sides of the boarder which both are trying to rectify as it is effecting trade both ways? mmmmmmmmm let me think about it a while

Costa we work in a small way for the home office so actually yes we do have meetings . We’re not in the cabinet meetings just our lowly selves and a usual government tit !

I’m retiring this year so can spend time on what the fuck I like . No ones going to tell me off for being on my phone. I own the fucking place so they will only try once!

Do you work or just sit at home and bitch about fellow fabbers?

Slowly winding myself out this year so can’t wait. . .

Anything else you wish to know ? No mate couldnt give a toss about people i dont know and will never meet,yeah I've retired but not sitting at home by choice just doing my bit for the pandemic.Im trying to complete on my latest property before the stamp duty holiday ends and will then have something to occupy my time.Until that happens i will continue amusing myself on here.

Good luck with the house mate.

I didn’t know you had to be poor to be a swinger ?

Thought it was just fun ?

Oh and I do care about people I don’t know.

I don’t like to think of anyone being worse off or unemployed .

I’m alright Jack isn’t my path. Brexit won’t hurt me as much as others but if I can see the costs piling up then some must be bleeding.

Ferry companies and HMRC falling out tonight over paperwork. One of the lines stopping all non contracted clients on container service until February. That’s seriously bad news for some.

Have to be poor to be a swinger where did you get that from?

good for you mate lets hope you dont get conned too much by random people on the internet, im not that stupid. I would rather care about people i know personally

Poor to be a swinger...

Why else did you mention multi millionaire as I’ve never done that?

It’s obviously takes up your thoughts

I only know a very few people on here personally away from fab.

I worry for the hard workers in this country who for no fault of their own will lose their jobs over Brexit .

That’s just being human isn’t it or do we just just say fuck you these days?

yes you have and having meetings with government ministers do you think i just make shit up?

Please point out where I’ve said anything about my worth?

mate how long have we been talking on here ? i cant go back over months of posts to find the exact post as you well know."

I started with fuck all and taking shit from absolute cunts for years who pretending to be successful. Their successful appearance was financed to the hilt.

I started just physical labouring to get my business off the ground.

I remember knob heads telling me I should get a proper job because all they saw was a young guy wearing overalls covered in shit working stupid long hours .

What they didn’t see was a 19year old taking home £3k a week.

They judged me on how I looked and they looked down on me big time .

I have never judged anyone on how they looked or how wealthy they were just on how they were with me. Being on the receiving end of this kind of ignorant abuse makes you value genuine people.

So you are totally incorrect I never discuss my wealth because that’s what I’m worth financially not who I am.

I can assure you I never ever mention It on here or in my real life.

You just assumed and it’s bothered you which it shouldn’t and you know that. Get a grip man! Like I said good luck with the house.

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over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

‘Survive’ is that the goal now?

well slowly over the years these industries have decreased due to overseas importing...its cheaper....id rather pay more to keep the uk going but each to their own i guess xxx"

Why couldn’t you and your fellow Brexit voters have done that before we left the EU?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

How do you manage to post all that if you're running a business and things are difficult now?

Because for years I worked my nuts off so that later like now I don’t have too. I pay people a shit load of money to deal with the problems. It’s called doing well for myself.

Hope that clears that conundrum up for you?

I’m posting to inform if you don’t want to know stuff then don’t read, it’s that easy. I thought being at the front end I could give first hand experience but you’d rather hear Gove bullshit you and say it’s all fine. Good for you. So how do you explain the eu having the same problems is that the uk,s governments fault too?

For once in your life instead of being a smartass why don't u take in what's being said. I have, now who do i believe is more to the point a bloke who claims to own a multi million pound business has sat down in meetings with government ministers and seems to spend a hell of a lot of time on here or someone interviewed on tv today saying there are problems both sides of the boarder which both are trying to rectify as it is effecting trade both ways? mmmmmmmmm let me think about it a while

Costa we work in a small way for the home office so actually yes we do have meetings . We’re not in the cabinet meetings just our lowly selves and a usual government tit !

I’m retiring this year so can spend time on what the fuck I like . No ones going to tell me off for being on my phone. I own the fucking place so they will only try once!

Do you work or just sit at home and bitch about fellow fabbers?

Slowly winding myself out this year so can’t wait. . .

Anything else you wish to know ? No mate couldnt give a toss about people i dont know and will never meet,yeah I've retired but not sitting at home by choice just doing my bit for the pandemic.Im trying to complete on my latest property before the stamp duty holiday ends and will then have something to occupy my time.Until that happens i will continue amusing myself on here.

Good luck with the house mate.

I didn’t know you had to be poor to be a swinger ?

Thought it was just fun ?

Oh and I do care about people I don’t know.

I don’t like to think of anyone being worse off or unemployed .

I’m alright Jack isn’t my path. Brexit won’t hurt me as much as others but if I can see the costs piling up then some must be bleeding.

Ferry companies and HMRC falling out tonight over paperwork. One of the lines stopping all non contracted clients on container service until February. That’s seriously bad news for some.

Have to be poor to be a swinger where did you get that from?

good for you mate lets hope you dont get conned too much by random people on the internet, im not that stupid. I would rather care about people i know personally

Poor to be a swinger...

Why else did you mention multi millionaire as I’ve never done that?

It’s obviously takes up your thoughts

I only know a very few people on here personally away from fab.

I worry for the hard workers in this country who for no fault of their own will lose their jobs over Brexit .

That’s just being human isn’t it or do we just just say fuck you these days?

yes you have and having meetings with government ministers do you think i just make shit up?

Please point out where I’ve said anything about my worth?

mate how long have we been talking on here ? i cant go back over months of posts to find the exact post as you well know.

I started with fuck all and taking shit from absolute cunts for years who pretending to be successful. Their successful appearance was financed to the hilt.

I started just physical labouring to get my business off the ground.

I remember knob heads telling me I should get a proper job because all they saw was a young guy wearing overalls covered in shit working stupid long hours .

What they didn’t see was a 19year old taking home £3k a week.

They judged me on how I looked and they looked down on me big time .

I have never judged anyone on how they looked or how wealthy they were just on how they were with me. Being on the receiving end of this kind of ignorant abuse makes you value genuine people.

So you are totally incorrect I never discuss my wealth because that’s what I’m worth financially not who I am.

I can assure you I never ever mention It on here or in my real life.

You just assumed and it’s bothered you which it shouldn’t and you know that. Get a grip man! Like I said good luck with the house.

"

It doesnt bother me at all mate i know plenty of very successful people you seem to be the one getting all bothered.

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over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

‘Survive’ is that the goal now?

well slowly over the years these industries have decreased due to overseas importing...its cheaper....id rather pay more to keep the uk going but each to their own i guess xxx

Most of your fellow brexiteers are arguing that the UK will import more stuff from further afield.

Was there a reason you could support local businesses when we were in the EU? "

i stick to as much British stuff as i can...i support local farmers etc meat.. fish... I do my bit... at this rate the country will be full of Hershy Bars soon ffs

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

How do you manage to post all that if you're running a business and things are difficult now?

Because for years I worked my nuts off so that later like now I don’t have too. I pay people a shit load of money to deal with the problems. It’s called doing well for myself.

Hope that clears that conundrum up for you?

I’m posting to inform if you don’t want to know stuff then don’t read, it’s that easy. I thought being at the front end I could give first hand experience but you’d rather hear Gove bullshit you and say it’s all fine. Good for you. So how do you explain the eu having the same problems is that the uk,s governments fault too?

For once in your life instead of being a smartass why don't u take in what's being said. I have, now who do i believe is more to the point a bloke who claims to own a multi million pound business has sat down in meetings with government ministers and seems to spend a hell of a lot of time on here or someone interviewed on tv today saying there are problems both sides of the boarder which both are trying to rectify as it is effecting trade both ways? mmmmmmmmm let me think about it a while

Costa we work in a small way for the home office so actually yes we do have meetings . We’re not in the cabinet meetings just our lowly selves and a usual government tit !

I’m retiring this year so can spend time on what the fuck I like . No ones going to tell me off for being on my phone. I own the fucking place so they will only try once!

Do you work or just sit at home and bitch about fellow fabbers?

Slowly winding myself out this year so can’t wait. . .

Anything else you wish to know ? No mate couldnt give a toss about people i dont know and will never meet,yeah I've retired but not sitting at home by choice just doing my bit for the pandemic.Im trying to complete on my latest property before the stamp duty holiday ends and will then have something to occupy my time.Until that happens i will continue amusing myself on here.

Good luck with the house mate.

I didn’t know you had to be poor to be a swinger ?

Thought it was just fun ?

Oh and I do care about people I don’t know.

I don’t like to think of anyone being worse off or unemployed .

I’m alright Jack isn’t my path. Brexit won’t hurt me as much as others but if I can see the costs piling up then some must be bleeding.

Ferry companies and HMRC falling out tonight over paperwork. One of the lines stopping all non contracted clients on container service until February. That’s seriously bad news for some.

Have to be poor to be a swinger where did you get that from?

good for you mate lets hope you dont get conned too much by random people on the internet, im not that stupid. I would rather care about people i know personally

Poor to be a swinger...

Why else did you mention multi millionaire as I’ve never done that?

It’s obviously takes up your thoughts

I only know a very few people on here personally away from fab.

I worry for the hard workers in this country who for no fault of their own will lose their jobs over Brexit .

That’s just being human isn’t it or do we just just say fuck you these days?

yes you have and having meetings with government ministers do you think i just make shit up?

Please point out where I’ve said anything about my worth?

mate how long have we been talking on here ? i cant go back over months of posts to find the exact post as you well know.

I started with fuck all and taking shit from absolute cunts for years who pretending to be successful. Their successful appearance was financed to the hilt.

I started just physical labouring to get my business off the ground.

I remember knob heads telling me I should get a proper job because all they saw was a young guy wearing overalls covered in shit working stupid long hours .

What they didn’t see was a 19year old taking home £3k a week.

They judged me on how I looked and they looked down on me big time .

I have never judged anyone on how they looked or how wealthy they were just on how they were with me. Being on the receiving end of this kind of ignorant abuse makes you value genuine people.

So you are totally incorrect I never discuss my wealth because that’s what I’m worth financially not who I am.

I can assure you I never ever mention It on here or in my real life.

You just assumed and it’s bothered you which it shouldn’t and you know that. Get a grip man! Like I said good luck with the house.

It doesnt bother me at all mate i know plenty of very successful people you seem to be the one getting all bothered. "

It doesn’t bother you all .,. Then why mention it on a post about Brexit?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

How do you manage to post all that if you're running a business and things are difficult now?

Because for years I worked my nuts off so that later like now I don’t have too. I pay people a shit load of money to deal with the problems. It’s called doing well for myself.

Hope that clears that conundrum up for you?

I’m posting to inform if you don’t want to know stuff then don’t read, it’s that easy. I thought being at the front end I could give first hand experience but you’d rather hear Gove bullshit you and say it’s all fine. Good for you. So how do you explain the eu having the same problems is that the uk,s governments fault too?

For once in your life instead of being a smartass why don't u take in what's being said. I have, now who do i believe is more to the point a bloke who claims to own a multi million pound business has sat down in meetings with government ministers and seems to spend a hell of a lot of time on here or someone interviewed on tv today saying there are problems both sides of the boarder which both are trying to rectify as it is effecting trade both ways? mmmmmmmmm let me think about it a while

Costa we work in a small way for the home office so actually yes we do have meetings . We’re not in the cabinet meetings just our lowly selves and a usual government tit !

I’m retiring this year so can spend time on what the fuck I like . No ones going to tell me off for being on my phone. I own the fucking place so they will only try once!

Do you work or just sit at home and bitch about fellow fabbers?

Slowly winding myself out this year so can’t wait. . .

Anything else you wish to know ? No mate couldnt give a toss about people i dont know and will never meet,yeah I've retired but not sitting at home by choice just doing my bit for the pandemic.Im trying to complete on my latest property before the stamp duty holiday ends and will then have something to occupy my time.Until that happens i will continue amusing myself on here.

Good luck with the house mate.

I didn’t know you had to be poor to be a swinger ?

Thought it was just fun ?

Oh and I do care about people I don’t know.

I don’t like to think of anyone being worse off or unemployed .

I’m alright Jack isn’t my path. Brexit won’t hurt me as much as others but if I can see the costs piling up then some must be bleeding.

Ferry companies and HMRC falling out tonight over paperwork. One of the lines stopping all non contracted clients on container service until February. That’s seriously bad news for some.

Have to be poor to be a swinger where did you get that from?

good for you mate lets hope you dont get conned too much by random people on the internet, im not that stupid. I would rather care about people i know personally

Poor to be a swinger...

Why else did you mention multi millionaire as I’ve never done that?

It’s obviously takes up your thoughts

I only know a very few people on here personally away from fab.

I worry for the hard workers in this country who for no fault of their own will lose their jobs over Brexit .

That’s just being human isn’t it or do we just just say fuck you these days?

yes you have and having meetings with government ministers do you think i just make shit up?

Please point out where I’ve said anything about my worth?

mate how long have we been talking on here ? i cant go back over months of posts to find the exact post as you well know.

I started with fuck all and taking shit from absolute cunts for years who pretending to be successful. Their successful appearance was financed to the hilt.

I started just physical labouring to get my business off the ground.

I remember knob heads telling me I should get a proper job because all they saw was a young guy wearing overalls covered in shit working stupid long hours .

What they didn’t see was a 19year old taking home £3k a week.

They judged me on how I looked and they looked down on me big time .

I have never judged anyone on how they looked or how wealthy they were just on how they were with me. Being on the receiving end of this kind of ignorant abuse makes you value genuine people.

So you are totally incorrect I never discuss my wealth because that’s what I’m worth financially not who I am.

I can assure you I never ever mention It on here or in my real life.

You just assumed and it’s bothered you which it shouldn’t and you know that. Get a grip man! Like I said good luck with the house.

It doesnt bother me at all mate i know plenty of very successful people you seem to be the one getting all bothered.

It doesn’t bother you all .,. Then why mention it on a post about Brexit? "

Of course not does everything you mention on here have to bother you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

‘Survive’ is that the goal now?

well slowly over the years these industries have decreased due to overseas importing...its cheaper....id rather pay more to keep the uk going but each to their own i guess xxx

Most of your fellow brexiteers are arguing that the UK will import more stuff from further afield.

Was there a reason you could support local businesses when we were in the EU?

i stick to as much British stuff as i can...i support local farmers etc meat.. fish... I do my bit... at this rate the country will be full of Hershy Bars soon ffs"

Well I agree there.

And I would add that Hershey's bars are proper horrible.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

‘Survive’ is that the goal now?

well slowly over the years these industries have decreased due to overseas importing...its cheaper....id rather pay more to keep the uk going but each to their own i guess xxx

Most of your fellow brexiteers are arguing that the UK will import more stuff from further afield.

Was there a reason you could support local businesses when we were in the EU?

i stick to as much British stuff as i can...i support local farmers etc meat.. fish... I do my bit... at this rate the country will be full of Hershy Bars soon ffs"

Me too mate so much fresher and helps the local community but im lucky as spoilt for choice around here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

‘Survive’ is that the goal now?

well slowly over the years these industries have decreased due to overseas importing...its cheaper....id rather pay more to keep the uk going but each to their own i guess xxx

Most of your fellow brexiteers are arguing that the UK will import more stuff from further afield.

Was there a reason you could support local businesses when we were in the EU?

i stick to as much British stuff as i can...i support local farmers etc meat.. fish... I do my bit... at this rate the country will be full of Hershy Bars soon ffs

Well I agree there.

And I would add that Hershey's bars are proper horrible. "

hahaha I didn’t like them either

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

‘Survive’ is that the goal now?

well slowly over the years these industries have decreased due to overseas importing...its cheaper....id rather pay more to keep the uk going but each to their own i guess xxx

Most of your fellow brexiteers are arguing that the UK will import more stuff from further afield.

Was there a reason you could support local businesses when we were in the EU?

i stick to as much British stuff as i can...i support local farmers etc meat.. fish... I do my bit... at this rate the country will be full of Hershy Bars soon ffsMe too mate so much fresher and helps the local community but im lucky as spoilt for choice around here."

exactly... as a country we can do this .....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

‘Survive’ is that the goal now?

well slowly over the years these industries have decreased due to overseas importing...its cheaper....id rather pay more to keep the uk going but each to their own i guess xxx

Most of your fellow brexiteers are arguing that the UK will import more stuff from further afield.

Was there a reason you could support local businesses when we were in the EU?

i stick to as much British stuff as i can...i support local farmers etc meat.. fish... I do my bit... at this rate the country will be full of Hershy Bars soon ffs"

Then we didn’t have to leave the EU to buy British?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

‘Survive’ is that the goal now?

well slowly over the years these industries have decreased due to overseas importing...its cheaper....id rather pay more to keep the uk going but each to their own i guess xxx

Most of your fellow brexiteers are arguing that the UK will import more stuff from further afield.

Was there a reason you could support local businesses when we were in the EU?

i stick to as much British stuff as i can...i support local farmers etc meat.. fish... I do my bit... at this rate the country will be full of Hershy Bars soon ffsMe too mate so much fresher and helps the local community but im lucky as spoilt for choice around here. exactly... as a country we can do this ..... "

Image if we were still in the EU, and had the "can do" attitude. That would have been a winning combo.

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

‘Survive’ is that the goal now?

well slowly over the years these industries have decreased due to overseas importing...its cheaper....id rather pay more to keep the uk going but each to their own i guess xxx

Most of your fellow brexiteers are arguing that the UK will import more stuff from further afield.

Was there a reason you could support local businesses when we were in the EU?

i stick to as much British stuff as i can...i support local farmers etc meat.. fish... I do my bit... at this rate the country will be full of Hershy Bars soon ffsMe too mate so much fresher and helps the local community but im lucky as spoilt for choice around here. exactly... as a country we can do this .....

Image if we were still in the EU, and had the "can do" attitude. That would have been a winning combo."

So very true .

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

How do you manage to post all that if you're running a business and things are difficult now?

Because for years I worked my nuts off so that later like now I don’t have too. I pay people a shit load of money to deal with the problems. It’s called doing well for myself.

Hope that clears that conundrum up for you?

I’m posting to inform if you don’t want to know stuff then don’t read, it’s that easy. I thought being at the front end I could give first hand experience but you’d rather hear Gove bullshit you and say it’s all fine. Good for you. So how do you explain the eu having the same problems is that the uk,s governments fault too?

For once in your life instead of being a smartass why don't u take in what's being said. I have, now who do i believe is more to the point a bloke who claims to own a multi million pound business has sat down in meetings with government ministers and seems to spend a hell of a lot of time on here or someone interviewed on tv today saying there are problems both sides of the boarder which both are trying to rectify as it is effecting trade both ways? mmmmmmmmm let me think about it a while

Costa we work in a small way for the home office so actually yes we do have meetings . We’re not in the cabinet meetings just our lowly selves and a usual government tit !

I’m retiring this year so can spend time on what the fuck I like . No ones going to tell me off for being on my phone. I own the fucking place so they will only try once!

Do you work or just sit at home and bitch about fellow fabbers?

Slowly winding myself out this year so can’t wait. . .

Anything else you wish to know ? No mate couldnt give a toss about people i dont know and will never meet,yeah I've retired but not sitting at home by choice just doing my bit for the pandemic.Im trying to complete on my latest property before the stamp duty holiday ends and will then have something to occupy my time.Until that happens i will continue amusing myself on here.

Good luck with the house mate.

I didn’t know you had to be poor to be a swinger ?

Thought it was just fun ?

Oh and I do care about people I don’t know.

I don’t like to think of anyone being worse off or unemployed .

I’m alright Jack isn’t my path. Brexit won’t hurt me as much as others but if I can see the costs piling up then some must be bleeding.

Ferry companies and HMRC falling out tonight over paperwork. One of the lines stopping all non contracted clients on container service until February. That’s seriously bad news for some.

Have to be poor to be a swinger where did you get that from?

good for you mate lets hope you dont get conned too much by random people on the internet, im not that stupid. I would rather care about people i know personally

Poor to be a swinger...

Why else did you mention multi millionaire as I’ve never done that?

It’s obviously takes up your thoughts

I only know a very few people on here personally away from fab.

I worry for the hard workers in this country who for no fault of their own will lose their jobs over Brexit .

That’s just being human isn’t it or do we just just say fuck you these days?

yes you have and having meetings with government ministers do you think i just make shit up?

Please point out where I’ve said anything about my worth?

mate how long have we been talking on here ? i cant go back over months of posts to find the exact post as you well know.

I started with fuck all and taking shit from absolute cunts for years who pretending to be successful. Their successful appearance was financed to the hilt.

I started just physical labouring to get my business off the ground.

I remember knob heads telling me I should get a proper job because all they saw was a young guy wearing overalls covered in shit working stupid long hours .

What they didn’t see was a 19year old taking home £3k a week.

They judged me on how I looked and they looked down on me big time .

I have never judged anyone on how they looked or how wealthy they were just on how they were with me. Being on the receiving end of this kind of ignorant abuse makes you value genuine people.

So you are totally incorrect I never discuss my wealth because that’s what I’m worth financially not who I am.

I can assure you I never ever mention It on here or in my real life.

You just assumed and it’s bothered you which it shouldn’t and you know that. Get a grip man! Like I said good luck with the house.

It doesnt bother me at all mate i know plenty of very successful people you seem to be the one getting all bothered.

It doesn’t bother you all .,. Then why mention it on a post about Brexit? Of course not does everything you mention on here have to bother you?"

That’s just it. Nothing was mentioned about my wealth but off you went commenting on what was bothering you on your head. So yes it seems it does bother you a lot

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again I think its only those against brexit thought it would happen overnight the rest of us are realistic.

How long do you think it will take before we start to see the economic benefits of Brexit? I have no idea mate you should ask some fishermen that but just by using some logic i would say reduced eu quotas and increased uk ones over the next 5 years and them a yearly quota agreed it will only get better,or dont you think so?

A larger quota is no use if you can't get it to market on time.

That's where the government have fucked up. That Scots fishermen trusted such a shower of fucking incompetents to get it right for them, is where they fucked up.If you actually watched some news you would have seen its not just on the uk side both the eu and uk are having teething problems with the computer system which is not really surprising due to the late agreement.You feel free to carry on with your anti government rants but most of us who actually see what is happening are not taken in by it.

Didn’t Gove say we’ve had 4 years to prepare??

So what the fuck has he been doing then? Another business man who seems to lack business acumen, you never hade any problems with IT in your multi million pound empire with clients?

My acumen has given a very good lifestyle thanks so can’t be that bad eh!!

Also my IT is working just fine thanks as we have exports systems for the rest of the world.

We were ready with our IT as requested.

The governments IT not working very well at all.

The government have been planning a new customs system for 5 years. It’s has kept failing to work.

The old system looks like it physically can’t cope so where was Goves planning?

Once that new system is running the clearance houses have to invest millions in new software to communicate with It so that’s also been delayed for 5 years.

Today

30 trailers delayed in Purfleet and Killingjolme waiting on HMRC system as it’s not working.

Best we’ve done so far out of Dover waiting for HMRC again is 4 hours.

Average 8-10.hrs T1 only as the government traffic management is hiding the lines of trucks inland.

Driver comment yesterday “there’s around 200 trucks waiting in front of me!”

Non T1 pretty straight forward. Just delays at terminals reported by ferry companies regarding HMRC systems.

Gove said it would be business fault not to be ready.

Government isn’t ready which is causing a lot of the problems and astronomical costs.

The small shippers who’ve done nothing are now in meltdown as custom clearance companies are declining new business. That’s their own fault.

Groupage services are stopping due to some small companies holding others business up.

Example the fish out of scotland but they also have the certification issues and lack of inspectors definitely governments fault.

DB Schenker one of the biggest freight companies in the world has suspended U.K. - EU movements until better organisation is built in to the system.

Whatever your views on Brexit the car crash that’s presently going on is costing us millions if not billions and will result in lost trade and jobs.

Another German haulier declined to come to the U.K. for us today.

They didn’t want to know at any price. Their drivers are not interested.

We are losing exports which will be replaced by EU supply. Hopefully our own but that takes time. In the meantime our European competitors are winning hands down.

The whole thing is a fucking costly joke .

So please tell me how the slimeball Gove’s fantastic business acumen is getting on with this shower of shit? Like Boris just empty lies and avoidance of facts.

Tory part the party of business what are joke. The party of greed and lining ones own pockets.

My own government is hurting my business so I’m well pissed off. Teething is one thing which I’m fine with but complete system failure is sitting with Gove and Co.

Five years and no progress in IT !!

Jay a word of warning . If chief does collapse that’s the UK’s global exports fucked too.

How do you manage to post all that if you're running a business and things are difficult now?

Because for years I worked my nuts off so that later like now I don’t have too. I pay people a shit load of money to deal with the problems. It’s called doing well for myself.

Hope that clears that conundrum up for you?

I’m posting to inform if you don’t want to know stuff then don’t read, it’s that easy. I thought being at the front end I could give first hand experience but you’d rather hear Gove bullshit you and say it’s all fine. Good for you. So how do you explain the eu having the same problems is that the uk,s governments fault too?

For once in your life instead of being a smartass why don't u take in what's being said. I have, now who do i believe is more to the point a bloke who claims to own a multi million pound business has sat down in meetings with government ministers and seems to spend a hell of a lot of time on here or someone interviewed on tv today saying there are problems both sides of the boarder which both are trying to rectify as it is effecting trade both ways? mmmmmmmmm let me think about it a while

Costa we work in a small way for the home office so actually yes we do have meetings . We’re not in the cabinet meetings just our lowly selves and a usual government tit !

I’m retiring this year so can spend time on what the fuck I like . No ones going to tell me off for being on my phone. I own the fucking place so they will only try once!

Do you work or just sit at home and bitch about fellow fabbers?

Slowly winding myself out this year so can’t wait. . .

Anything else you wish to know ? No mate couldnt give a toss about people i dont know and will never meet,yeah I've retired but not sitting at home by choice just doing my bit for the pandemic.Im trying to complete on my latest property before the stamp duty holiday ends and will then have something to occupy my time.Until that happens i will continue amusing myself on here.

Good luck with the house mate.

I didn’t know you had to be poor to be a swinger ?

Thought it was just fun ?

Oh and I do care about people I don’t know.

I don’t like to think of anyone being worse off or unemployed .

I’m alright Jack isn’t my path. Brexit won’t hurt me as much as others but if I can see the costs piling up then some must be bleeding.

Ferry companies and HMRC falling out tonight over paperwork. One of the lines stopping all non contracted clients on container service until February. That’s seriously bad news for some.

Have to be poor to be a swinger where did you get that from?

good for you mate lets hope you dont get conned too much by random people on the internet, im not that stupid. I would rather care about people i know personally

Poor to be a swinger...

Why else did you mention multi millionaire as I’ve never done that?

It’s obviously takes up your thoughts

I only know a very few people on here personally away from fab.

I worry for the hard workers in this country who for no fault of their own will lose their jobs over Brexit .

That’s just being human isn’t it or do we just just say fuck you these days?

yes you have and having meetings with government ministers do you think i just make shit up?

Please point out where I’ve said anything about my worth?

mate how long have we been talking on here ? i cant go back over months of posts to find the exact post as you well know.

I started with fuck all and taking shit from absolute cunts for years who pretending to be successful. Their successful appearance was financed to the hilt.

I started just physical labouring to get my business off the ground.

I remember knob heads telling me I should get a proper job because all they saw was a young guy wearing overalls covered in shit working stupid long hours .

What they didn’t see was a 19year old taking home £3k a week.

They judged me on how I looked and they looked down on me big time .

I have never judged anyone on how they looked or how wealthy they were just on how they were with me. Being on the receiving end of this kind of ignorant abuse makes you value genuine people.

So you are totally incorrect I never discuss my wealth because that’s what I’m worth financially not who I am.

I can assure you I never ever mention It on here or in my real life.

You just assumed and it’s bothered you which it shouldn’t and you know that. Get a grip man! Like I said good luck with the house.

It doesnt bother me at all mate i know plenty of very successful people you seem to be the one getting all bothered.

It doesn’t bother you all .,. Then why mention it on a post about Brexit? Of course not does everything you mention on here have to bother you?

That’s just it. Nothing was mentioned about my wealth but off you went commenting on what was bothering you on your head. So yes it seems it does bother you a lot

"

you keep on believing that if it makes you happy.

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By *uliaChrisCouple
over a year ago

westerham


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

‘Survive’ is that the goal now?

well slowly over the years these industries have decreased due to overseas importing...its cheaper....id rather pay more to keep the uk going but each to their own i guess xxx

Most of your fellow brexiteers are arguing that the UK will import more stuff from further afield.

Was there a reason you could support local businesses when we were in the EU?

i stick to as much British stuff as i can...i support local farmers etc meat.. fish... I do my bit... at this rate the country will be full of Hershy Bars soon ffsMe too mate so much fresher and helps the local community but im lucky as spoilt for choice around here. exactly... as a country we can do this .....

Image if we were still in the EU, and had the "can do" attitude. That would have been a winning combo.

So very true . "

Lol when Brussels is the very definition of “can’t”

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

‘Survive’ is that the goal now?

well slowly over the years these industries have decreased due to overseas importing...its cheaper....id rather pay more to keep the uk going but each to their own i guess xxx

Most of your fellow brexiteers are arguing that the UK will import more stuff from further afield.

Was there a reason you could support local businesses when we were in the EU?

i stick to as much British stuff as i can...i support local farmers etc meat.. fish... I do my bit... at this rate the country will be full of Hershy Bars soon ffs

Then we didn’t have to leave the EU to buy British? "

Cheaper imports from the EU made it near impossible to get uk prices down to what they charged..... hence why the farmers etc wasn’t worth their while producing anymore.... the eu capped the fishing quota for the uk fishermen but allow France to have much much more in our waters ...how does that work! That’s not fair and sustainable....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

‘Survive’ is that the goal now?

well slowly over the years these industries have decreased due to overseas importing...its cheaper....id rather pay more to keep the uk going but each to their own i guess xxx

Most of your fellow brexiteers are arguing that the UK will import more stuff from further afield.

Was there a reason you could support local businesses when we were in the EU?

i stick to as much British stuff as i can...i support local farmers etc meat.. fish... I do my bit... at this rate the country will be full of Hershy Bars soon ffsMe too mate so much fresher and helps the local community but im lucky as spoilt for choice around here. exactly... as a country we can do this .....

Image if we were still in the EU, and had the "can do" attitude. That would have been a winning combo."

Well we aren’t anymore so we got to get on with it....Keep our millions and invest in uk

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

‘Survive’ is that the goal now?

well slowly over the years these industries have decreased due to overseas importing...its cheaper....id rather pay more to keep the uk going but each to their own i guess xxx

Most of your fellow brexiteers are arguing that the UK will import more stuff from further afield.

Was there a reason you could support local businesses when we were in the EU?

i stick to as much British stuff as i can...i support local farmers etc meat.. fish... I do my bit... at this rate the country will be full of Hershy Bars soon ffsMe too mate so much fresher and helps the local community but im lucky as spoilt for choice around here. exactly... as a country we can do this .....

Image if we were still in the EU, and had the "can do" attitude. That would have been a winning combo.

Well we aren’t anymore so we got to get on with it....Keep our millions and invest in uk"

Why didn’t you and your fellow leave voters buy and invest in Britain before we left the EU?

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By *renzMan
over a year ago

Between Chichester and Havant


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

‘Survive’ is that the goal now?

well slowly over the years these industries have decreased due to overseas importing...its cheaper....id rather pay more to keep the uk going but each to their own i guess xxx

Most of your fellow brexiteers are arguing that the UK will import more stuff from further afield.

Was there a reason you could support local businesses when we were in the EU?

i stick to as much British stuff as i can...i support local farmers etc meat.. fish... I do my bit... at this rate the country will be full of Hershy Bars soon ffsMe too mate so much fresher and helps the local community but im lucky as spoilt for choice around here. exactly... as a country we can do this .....

Image if we were still in the EU, and had the "can do" attitude. That would have been a winning combo."

Unfortunately we tried, we tried to change it from 'the inside' but Cameron was sent home like a naughty schoolgirl. Perhaps if he was better at negotiation or perhaps the EU took a genuine interest in their subjects, maybe, just maybe things would have been different. The EU juggernaut continues bumping down the road until it runs out of fuel. Which it will.

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

I thought this post was about Fishing? It would seem that the Fishing Community have been sold down the river. This was not an ‘oven ready’ deal for them. If they couldn’t do it for the Fishermen, then who actually has gained? Apart from Tory Politicians and their ‘donors’ of course

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

‘Survive’ is that the goal now?

well slowly over the years these industries have decreased due to overseas importing...its cheaper....id rather pay more to keep the uk going but each to their own i guess xxx

Most of your fellow brexiteers are arguing that the UK will import more stuff from further afield.

Was there a reason you could support local businesses when we were in the EU?

i stick to as much British stuff as i can...i support local farmers etc meat.. fish... I do my bit... at this rate the country will be full of Hershy Bars soon ffsMe too mate so much fresher and helps the local community but im lucky as spoilt for choice around here. exactly... as a country we can do this .....

Image if we were still in the EU, and had the "can do" attitude. That would have been a winning combo.

Well we aren’t anymore so we got to get on with it....Keep our millions and invest in uk

Why didn’t you and your fellow leave voters buy and invest in Britain before we left the EU? "

A little argumentative I’d say....but I /we did invest in UK Proprties. Income Tax...council tax...food......are you a remainer ? If so perhaps debate why you stayed xxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What’s your favourite fish.....?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

‘Survive’ is that the goal now?

well slowly over the years these industries have decreased due to overseas importing...its cheaper....id rather pay more to keep the uk going but each to their own i guess xxx

Most of your fellow brexiteers are arguing that the UK will import more stuff from further afield.

Was there a reason you could support local businesses when we were in the EU?

i stick to as much British stuff as i can...i support local farmers etc meat.. fish... I do my bit... at this rate the country will be full of Hershy Bars soon ffsMe too mate so much fresher and helps the local community but im lucky as spoilt for choice around here. exactly... as a country we can do this .....

Image if we were still in the EU, and had the "can do" attitude. That would have been a winning combo.

Unfortunately we tried, we tried to change it from 'the inside' but Cameron was sent home like a naughty schoolgirl. Perhaps if he was better at negotiation or perhaps the EU took a genuine interest in their subjects, maybe, just maybe things would have been different. The EU juggernaut continues bumping down the road until it runs out of fuel. Which it will."

Little englanders with their little predjucies , unfortunately all indicators are pointing to the uk ldv van running out of fuel first.

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By *renzMan
over a year ago

Between Chichester and Havant


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

‘Survive’ is that the goal now?

well slowly over the years these industries have decreased due to overseas importing...its cheaper....id rather pay more to keep the uk going but each to their own i guess xxx

Most of your fellow brexiteers are arguing that the UK will import more stuff from further afield.

Was there a reason you could support local businesses when we were in the EU?

i stick to as much British stuff as i can...i support local farmers etc meat.. fish... I do my bit... at this rate the country will be full of Hershy Bars soon ffsMe too mate so much fresher and helps the local community but im lucky as spoilt for choice around here. exactly... as a country we can do this .....

Image if we were still in the EU, and had the "can do" attitude. That would have been a winning combo.

Unfortunately we tried, we tried to change it from 'the inside' but Cameron was sent home like a naughty schoolgirl. Perhaps if he was better at negotiation or perhaps the EU took a genuine interest in their subjects, maybe, just maybe things would have been different. The EU juggernaut continues bumping down the road until it runs out of fuel. Which it will.

Little englanders with their little predjucies , unfortunately all indicators are pointing to the uk ldv van running out of fuel first."

As usual no argument, just resort to attempted insults. Water, duck, back.

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By *ssexbloke72Man
over a year ago

Poplar


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

‘Survive’ is that the goal now?

well slowly over the years these industries have decreased due to overseas importing...its cheaper....id rather pay more to keep the uk going but each to their own i guess xxx

Most of your fellow brexiteers are arguing that the UK will import more stuff from further afield.

Was there a reason you could support local businesses when we were in the EU?

i stick to as much British stuff as i can...i support local farmers etc meat.. fish... I do my bit... at this rate the country will be full of Hershy Bars soon ffsMe too mate so much fresher and helps the local community but im lucky as spoilt for choice around here. exactly... as a country we can do this .....

Image if we were still in the EU, and had the "can do" attitude. That would have been a winning combo.

Unfortunately we tried, we tried to change it from 'the inside' but Cameron was sent home like a naughty schoolgirl. Perhaps if he was better at negotiation or perhaps the EU took a genuine interest in their subjects, maybe, just maybe things would have been different. The EU juggernaut continues bumping down the road until it runs out of fuel. Which it will.

Little englanders with their little predjucies , unfortunately all indicators are pointing to the uk ldv van running out of fuel first."

I'm trying to understand why people use the term little englander and why the hatred toward the country they supposedly live in.

Where were you born, your parents born and your grandparents born?

Have you any actual ties to the UK?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

‘Survive’ is that the goal now?

well slowly over the years these industries have decreased due to overseas importing...its cheaper....id rather pay more to keep the uk going but each to their own i guess xxx

Most of your fellow brexiteers are arguing that the UK will import more stuff from further afield.

Was there a reason you could support local businesses when we were in the EU?

i stick to as much British stuff as i can...i support local farmers etc meat.. fish... I do my bit... at this rate the country will be full of Hershy Bars soon ffsMe too mate so much fresher and helps the local community but im lucky as spoilt for choice around here. exactly... as a country we can do this .....

Image if we were still in the EU, and had the "can do" attitude. That would have been a winning combo.

Unfortunately we tried, we tried to change it from 'the inside' but Cameron was sent home like a naughty schoolgirl. Perhaps if he was better at negotiation or perhaps the EU took a genuine interest in their subjects, maybe, just maybe things would have been different. The EU juggernaut continues bumping down the road until it runs out of fuel. Which it will.

Little englanders with their little predjucies , unfortunately all indicators are pointing to the uk ldv van running out of fuel first.

As usual no argument, just resort to attempted insults. Water, duck, back."

Exactly...

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

‘Survive’ is that the goal now?

well slowly over the years these industries have decreased due to overseas importing...its cheaper....id rather pay more to keep the uk going but each to their own i guess xxx

Most of your fellow brexiteers are arguing that the UK will import more stuff from further afield.

Was there a reason you could support local businesses when we were in the EU?

i stick to as much British stuff as i can...i support local farmers etc meat.. fish... I do my bit... at this rate the country will be full of Hershy Bars soon ffsMe too mate so much fresher and helps the local community but im lucky as spoilt for choice around here. exactly... as a country we can do this .....

Image if we were still in the EU, and had the "can do" attitude. That would have been a winning combo.

Unfortunately we tried, we tried to change it from 'the inside' but Cameron was sent home like a naughty schoolgirl. Perhaps if he was better at negotiation or perhaps the EU took a genuine interest in their subjects, maybe, just maybe things would have been different. The EU juggernaut continues bumping down the road until it runs out of fuel. Which it will.

Little englanders with their little predjucies , unfortunately all indicators are pointing to the uk ldv van running out of fuel first.

As usual no argument, just resort to attempted insults. Water, duck, back."

So apart from waffle wheres your argument, where we going to see some golden unicorns or will it be "some time" yet maybe the 50 years jrm admitted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What’s your favourite fish.....?"

A happy British fish. The ones JRM described.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

‘Survive’ is that the goal now?

well slowly over the years these industries have decreased due to overseas importing...its cheaper....id rather pay more to keep the uk going but each to their own i guess xxx

Most of your fellow brexiteers are arguing that the UK will import more stuff from further afield.

Was there a reason you could support local businesses when we were in the EU?

i stick to as much British stuff as i can...i support local farmers etc meat.. fish... I do my bit... at this rate the country will be full of Hershy Bars soon ffsMe too mate so much fresher and helps the local community but im lucky as spoilt for choice around here. exactly... as a country we can do this .....

Image if we were still in the EU, and had the "can do" attitude. That would have been a winning combo.

Unfortunately we tried, we tried to change it from 'the inside' but Cameron was sent home like a naughty schoolgirl. Perhaps if he was better at negotiation or perhaps the EU took a genuine interest in their subjects, maybe, just maybe things would have been different. The EU juggernaut continues bumping down the road until it runs out of fuel. Which it will.

Little englanders with their little predjucies , unfortunately all indicators are pointing to the uk ldv van running out of fuel first.

I'm trying to understand why people use the term little englander and why the hatred toward the country they supposedly live in.

Where were you born, your parents born and your grandparents born?

Have you any actual ties to the UK?"

My grandparents? Is there a problem with having a Scottish granny now ? think I'll say no more on the little englander's

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

‘Survive’ is that the goal now?

well slowly over the years these industries have decreased due to overseas importing...its cheaper....id rather pay more to keep the uk going but each to their own i guess xxx

Most of your fellow brexiteers are arguing that the UK will import more stuff from further afield.

Was there a reason you could support local businesses when we were in the EU?

i stick to as much British stuff as i can...i support local farmers etc meat.. fish... I do my bit... at this rate the country will be full of Hershy Bars soon ffsMe too mate so much fresher and helps the local community but im lucky as spoilt for choice around here. exactly... as a country we can do this .....

Image if we were still in the EU, and had the "can do" attitude. That would have been a winning combo.

Unfortunately we tried, we tried to change it from 'the inside' but Cameron was sent home like a naughty schoolgirl. Perhaps if he was better at negotiation or perhaps the EU took a genuine interest in their subjects, maybe, just maybe things would have been different. The EU juggernaut continues bumping down the road until it runs out of fuel. Which it will.

Little englanders with their little predjucies , unfortunately all indicators are pointing to the uk ldv van running out of fuel first.

I'm trying to understand why people use the term little englander and why the hatred toward the country they supposedly live in.

Where were you born, your parents born and your grandparents born?

Have you any actual ties to the UK?

My grandparents? Is there a problem with having a Scottish granny now ? think I'll say no more on the little englander's"

what do you mean by little englanders ?

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

‘Survive’ is that the goal now?

well slowly over the years these industries have decreased due to overseas importing...its cheaper....id rather pay more to keep the uk going but each to their own i guess xxx

Most of your fellow brexiteers are arguing that the UK will import more stuff from further afield.

Was there a reason you could support local businesses when we were in the EU?

i stick to as much British stuff as i can...i support local farmers etc meat.. fish... I do my bit... at this rate the country will be full of Hershy Bars soon ffsMe too mate so much fresher and helps the local community but im lucky as spoilt for choice around here. exactly... as a country we can do this .....

Image if we were still in the EU, and had the "can do" attitude. That would have been a winning combo.

Unfortunately we tried, we tried to change it from 'the inside' but Cameron was sent home like a naughty schoolgirl. Perhaps if he was better at negotiation or perhaps the EU took a genuine interest in their subjects, maybe, just maybe things would have been different. The EU juggernaut continues bumping down the road until it runs out of fuel. Which it will.

Little englanders with their little predjucies , unfortunately all indicators are pointing to the uk ldv van running out of fuel first.

As usual no argument, just resort to attempted insults. Water, duck, back."

that’s all this guy as done since he joined mate he actually gets of on insults the poor bugger

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"What’s your favourite fish.....?

A happy British fish. The ones JRM described."

They are just taking the piss

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By *ssexbloke72Man
over a year ago

Poplar


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

‘Survive’ is that the goal now?

well slowly over the years these industries have decreased due to overseas importing...its cheaper....id rather pay more to keep the uk going but each to their own i guess xxx

Most of your fellow brexiteers are arguing that the UK will import more stuff from further afield.

Was there a reason you could support local businesses when we were in the EU?

i stick to as much British stuff as i can...i support local farmers etc meat.. fish... I do my bit... at this rate the country will be full of Hershy Bars soon ffsMe too mate so much fresher and helps the local community but im lucky as spoilt for choice around here. exactly... as a country we can do this .....

Image if we were still in the EU, and had the "can do" attitude. That would have been a winning combo.

Unfortunately we tried, we tried to change it from 'the inside' but Cameron was sent home like a naughty schoolgirl. Perhaps if he was better at negotiation or perhaps the EU took a genuine interest in their subjects, maybe, just maybe things would have been different. The EU juggernaut continues bumping down the road until it runs out of fuel. Which it will.

Little englanders with their little predjucies , unfortunately all indicators are pointing to the uk ldv van running out of fuel first.

I'm trying to understand why people use the term little englander and why the hatred toward the country they supposedly live in.

Where were you born, your parents born and your grandparents born?

Have you any actual ties to the UK?

My grandparents? Is there a problem with having a Scottish granny now ? think I'll say no more on the little englander's"

So you and your parents are English?

So that would make yourself a little englander and you are insulting yourself as well.

There are some very strange people that have joined this site recently.!

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

‘Survive’ is that the goal now?

well slowly over the years these industries have decreased due to overseas importing...its cheaper....id rather pay more to keep the uk going but each to their own i guess xxx

Most of your fellow brexiteers are arguing that the UK will import more stuff from further afield.

Was there a reason you could support local businesses when we were in the EU?

i stick to as much British stuff as i can...i support local farmers etc meat.. fish... I do my bit... at this rate the country will be full of Hershy Bars soon ffsMe too mate so much fresher and helps the local community but im lucky as spoilt for choice around here. exactly... as a country we can do this .....

Image if we were still in the EU, and had the "can do" attitude. That would have been a winning combo.

Unfortunately we tried, we tried to change it from 'the inside' but Cameron was sent home like a naughty schoolgirl. Perhaps if he was better at negotiation or perhaps the EU took a genuine interest in their subjects, maybe, just maybe things would have been different. The EU juggernaut continues bumping down the road until it runs out of fuel. Which it will.

Little englanders with their little predjucies , unfortunately all indicators are pointing to the uk ldv van running out of fuel first.

I'm trying to understand why people use the term little englander and why the hatred toward the country they supposedly live in.

Where were you born, your parents born and your grandparents born?

Have you any actual ties to the UK?

My grandparents? Is there a problem with having a Scottish granny now ? think I'll say no more on the little englander's

So you and your parents are English?

So that would make yourself a little englander and you are insulting yourself as well.

There are some very strange people that have joined this site recently.! "

or rejoined under a new name lots of trolls do this not that I’m saying he’s a troll lol

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over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

‘Survive’ is that the goal now?

well slowly over the years these industries have decreased due to overseas importing...its cheaper....id rather pay more to keep the uk going but each to their own i guess xxx

Most of your fellow brexiteers are arguing that the UK will import more stuff from further afield.

Was there a reason you could support local businesses when we were in the EU?

i stick to as much British stuff as i can...i support local farmers etc meat.. fish... I do my bit... at this rate the country will be full of Hershy Bars soon ffsMe too mate so much fresher and helps the local community but im lucky as spoilt for choice around here. exactly... as a country we can do this .....

Image if we were still in the EU, and had the "can do" attitude. That would have been a winning combo.

Unfortunately we tried, we tried to change it from 'the inside' but Cameron was sent home like a naughty schoolgirl. Perhaps if he was better at negotiation or perhaps the EU took a genuine interest in their subjects, maybe, just maybe things would have been different. The EU juggernaut continues bumping down the road until it runs out of fuel. Which it will.

Little englanders with their little predjucies , unfortunately all indicators are pointing to the uk ldv van running out of fuel first.

I'm trying to understand why people use the term little englander and why the hatred toward the country they supposedly live in.

Where were you born, your parents born and your grandparents born?

Have you any actual ties to the UK?

My grandparents? Is there a problem with having a Scottish granny now ? think I'll say no more on the little englander's

So you and your parents are English?

So that would make yourself a little englander and you are insulting yourself as well.

There are some very strange people that have joined this site recently.! or rejoined under a new name lots of trolls do this not that I’m saying he’s a troll lol"

Did u not already apologize for that accusation already foxi, stop being a wuss.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

‘Survive’ is that the goal now?

well slowly over the years these industries have decreased due to overseas importing...its cheaper....id rather pay more to keep the uk going but each to their own i guess xxx

Most of your fellow brexiteers are arguing that the UK will import more stuff from further afield.

Was there a reason you could support local businesses when we were in the EU?

i stick to as much British stuff as i can...i support local farmers etc meat.. fish... I do my bit... at this rate the country will be full of Hershy Bars soon ffsMe too mate so much fresher and helps the local community but im lucky as spoilt for choice around here. exactly... as a country we can do this .....

Image if we were still in the EU, and had the "can do" attitude. That would have been a winning combo.

Unfortunately we tried, we tried to change it from 'the inside' but Cameron was sent home like a naughty schoolgirl. Perhaps if he was better at negotiation or perhaps the EU took a genuine interest in their subjects, maybe, just maybe things would have been different. The EU juggernaut continues bumping down the road until it runs out of fuel. Which it will.

Little englanders with their little predjucies , unfortunately all indicators are pointing to the uk ldv van running out of fuel first.

I'm trying to understand why people use the term little englander and why the hatred toward the country they supposedly live in.

Where were you born, your parents born and your grandparents born?

Have you any actual ties to the UK?

My grandparents? Is there a problem with having a Scottish granny now ? think I'll say no more on the little englander's

So you and your parents are English?

So that would make yourself a little englander and you are insulting yourself as well.

There are some very strange people that have joined this site recently.! or rejoined under a new name lots of trolls do this not that I’m saying he’s a troll lol

Did u not already apologize for that accusation already foxi, stop being a wuss. "

no read back it wasn’t an apology it’s not just me who thinks you maybe just maybe someone else

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over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

‘Survive’ is that the goal now?

well slowly over the years these industries have decreased due to overseas importing...its cheaper....id rather pay more to keep the uk going but each to their own i guess xxx

Most of your fellow brexiteers are arguing that the UK will import more stuff from further afield.

Was there a reason you could support local businesses when we were in the EU?

i stick to as much British stuff as i can...i support local farmers etc meat.. fish... I do my bit... at this rate the country will be full of Hershy Bars soon ffsMe too mate so much fresher and helps the local community but im lucky as spoilt for choice around here. exactly... as a country we can do this .....

Image if we were still in the EU, and had the "can do" attitude. That would have been a winning combo.

Unfortunately we tried, we tried to change it from 'the inside' but Cameron was sent home like a naughty schoolgirl. Perhaps if he was better at negotiation or perhaps the EU took a genuine interest in their subjects, maybe, just maybe things would have been different. The EU juggernaut continues bumping down the road until it runs out of fuel. Which it will.

Little englanders with their little predjucies , unfortunately all indicators are pointing to the uk ldv van running out of fuel first.

I'm trying to understand why people use the term little englander and why the hatred toward the country they supposedly live in.

Where were you born, your parents born and your grandparents born?

Have you any actual ties to the UK?

My grandparents? Is there a problem with having a Scottish granny now ? think I'll say no more on the little englander's

So you and your parents are English?

So that would make yourself a little englander and you are insulting yourself as well.

There are some very strange people that have joined this site recently.! or rejoined under a new name lots of trolls do this not that I’m saying he’s a troll lol

Did u not already apologize for that accusation already foxi, stop being a wuss. no read back it wasn’t an apology it’s not just me who thinks you maybe just maybe someone else "

Never mind someone else why dont you say what's on your mind instead of vague accusations? Out with it , Apologies on calling u a wuss there.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

‘Survive’ is that the goal now?

well slowly over the years these industries have decreased due to overseas importing...its cheaper....id rather pay more to keep the uk going but each to their own i guess xxx

Most of your fellow brexiteers are arguing that the UK will import more stuff from further afield.

Was there a reason you could support local businesses when we were in the EU?

i stick to as much British stuff as i can...i support local farmers etc meat.. fish... I do my bit... at this rate the country will be full of Hershy Bars soon ffsMe too mate so much fresher and helps the local community but im lucky as spoilt for choice around here. exactly... as a country we can do this .....

Image if we were still in the EU, and had the "can do" attitude. That would have been a winning combo.

Unfortunately we tried, we tried to change it from 'the inside' but Cameron was sent home like a naughty schoolgirl. Perhaps if he was better at negotiation or perhaps the EU took a genuine interest in their subjects, maybe, just maybe things would have been different. The EU juggernaut continues bumping down the road until it runs out of fuel. Which it will.

Little englanders with their little predjucies , unfortunately all indicators are pointing to the uk ldv van running out of fuel first.

I'm trying to understand why people use the term little englander and why the hatred toward the country they supposedly live in.

Where were you born, your parents born and your grandparents born?

Have you any actual ties to the UK?

My grandparents? Is there a problem with having a Scottish granny now ? think I'll say no more on the little englander's

So you and your parents are English?

So that would make yourself a little englander and you are insulting yourself as well.

There are some very strange people that have joined this site recently.! "

Not at all I know Englands place in the world, I didn't vote for an inward looking poorer country like my cousins the little englander's.

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By *renzMan
over a year ago

Between Chichester and Havant


"The UK will survive albeit slowly.... EU didnt want us to leave..... let our UK farmers and fisherman survive... support local businesses ... Make Great Britain GREAT again

‘Survive’ is that the goal now?

well slowly over the years these industries have decreased due to overseas importing...its cheaper....id rather pay more to keep the uk going but each to their own i guess xxx

Most of your fellow brexiteers are arguing that the UK will import more stuff from further afield.

Was there a reason you could support local businesses when we were in the EU?

i stick to as much British stuff as i can...i support local farmers etc meat.. fish... I do my bit... at this rate the country will be full of Hershy Bars soon ffsMe too mate so much fresher and helps the local community but im lucky as spoilt for choice around here. exactly... as a country we can do this .....

Image if we were still in the EU, and had the "can do" attitude. That would have been a winning combo.

Unfortunately we tried, we tried to change it from 'the inside' but Cameron was sent home like a naughty schoolgirl. Perhaps if he was better at negotiation or perhaps the EU took a genuine interest in their subjects, maybe, just maybe things would have been different. The EU juggernaut continues bumping down the road until it runs out of fuel. Which it will.

Little englanders with their little predjucies , unfortunately all indicators are pointing to the uk ldv van running out of fuel first.

As usual no argument, just resort to attempted insults. Water, duck, back.

So apart from waffle wheres your argument, where we going to see some golden unicorns or will it be "some time" yet maybe the 50 years jrm admitted. "

My 'argument'? I think I have put it down on the previous posts, but unfortunately you don't debate, just attempted insults.

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