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"Nah just grabbing the popcorn and waiting for the fun when the penny finally drops " Well let me tell you, eat ya' popcorn, it already has, Brexit is Done. ![]() | |||
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"Nah just grabbing the popcorn and waiting for the fun when the penny finally drops Well let me tell you, eat ya' popcorn, it already has, Brexit is Done. ![]() And it's going swimmingly ![]() | |||
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"Nah just grabbing the popcorn and waiting for the fun when the penny finally drops Well let me tell you, eat ya' popcorn, it already has, Brexit is Done. ![]() ![]() So far. Good of you to notice and appreciate. ![]() | |||
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"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-committee-jacob-rees-mogg-eu-trade-deal-b1784512.html I do. Well done And accusations aren't facts - no matter how many times that you post them. ![]() | |||
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"Just read the southern Irish government complaining of the lack of support from Brussels on the issues. Never would have thought." Think with 85% support for the EU., with a border down the irish sea dividing the uk and picking up a lot of extra business from uk suppliers they are pretty happy. | |||
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"Nah just grabbing the popcorn and waiting for the fun when the penny finally drops " Judging by people on here, i don't think it ever will drop. The denial is so strong, and if people get past that, they move to blame instead, EU, Remainers, anyone except people who voted for it. | |||
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"Just read the southern Irish government complaining of the lack of support from Brussels on the issues. Never would have thought." Will they have a referendum and leave? | |||
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" Judging by people on here, i don't think it ever will drop. The denial is so strong, and if people get past that, they move to blame instead, EU, Remainers, anyone except people who voted for it. " lol. Do you not see the blame in your blame statement? | |||
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"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-committee-jacob-rees-mogg-eu-trade-deal-b1784512.html I do. Well done And accusations aren't facts - no matter how many times that you post them. ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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" Judging by people on here, i don't think it ever will drop. The denial is so strong, and if people get past that, they move to blame instead, EU, Remainers, anyone except people who voted for it. lol. Do you not see the blame in your blame statement?" I don't. Personally I place most of the blame on those who organised the anti EU propaganda for the last 20-30 years. I'm not excusing people who voted leave completely, but they were bombarded with so much misinformation over the years that it was just ingrained in them that the EU were the cause of all their problems. | |||
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"Surely there’s some sort of timescale the campaign is working to? When will we the people realise that Brussels was actually an amazing well run efficient organisation that existed for the good of the citizens of Europe, and not a retirement home for all the failed national politicians where they could enjoy taxpayer funded lobster and champagne?" Brussels is a city. | |||
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"Just read the southern Irish government complaining of the lack of support from Brussels on the issues. Never would have thought." What are they complaining about to Brussels? | |||
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"Nah just grabbing the popcorn and waiting for the fun when the penny finally drops Judging by people on here, i don't think it ever will drop. The denial is so strong, and if people get past that, they move to blame instead, EU, Remainers, anyone except people who voted for it. " They already at the stage where they are trying to convince themselves they did the right thing. There threads really need to be bookmarked. | |||
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"Surely there’s some sort of timescale the campaign is working to? When will we the people realise that Brussels was actually an amazing well run efficient organisation that existed for the good of the citizens of Europe, and not a retirement home for all the failed national politicians where they could enjoy taxpayer funded lobster and champagne?" You've just left, ya know? It's still days really, not weeks. | |||
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"Just read the southern Irish government complaining of the lack of support from Brussels on the issues. Never would have thought. Think with 85% support for the EU., with a border down the irish sea dividing the uk and picking up a lot of extra business from uk suppliers they are pretty happy." Apparently not so maybe your observations aren't as accurate as you'd like them to seem. Btw in you list of nonsense in your post of those leaving as if if it's such a blow, AXA is a French company and moving in their french office to Dublin demonstrates the need for the UK market. The Regulatory banking wing of the EU which is moving is just that, and the reason for their moving is because of the new paperwork and regulations which they haven't in place to operate in the UK. Michelin has been closing factories not just in the UK for the past 10 years and little to do with Brexit as to do with the company restructuring. Your silly reply to me on common market showed you know less on how the EU taxation system works. It may be common market but there's a lot of of internal taxation that happens. It's not that none happens as you imply. internal taxation is in principle allowed by EU law. BUT NOT If internal taxation is discriminatory against imported goods or protective of domestic goods. I could go on about your list, but it's mostly repetitive illustrating as per that youre selective with what is the truth. | |||
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"Surely there’s some sort of timescale the campaign is working to? When will we the people realise that Brussels was actually an amazing well run efficient organisation that existed for the good of the citizens of Europe, and not a retirement home for all the failed national politicians where they could enjoy taxpayer funded lobster and champagne? Brussels is a city. " No it's not ![]() | |||
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"Just read the southern Irish government complaining of the lack of support from Brussels on the issues. Never would have thought. What are they complaining about to Brussels?" I'd imagine with boris having cut NI loose they maybe seeking funds to smooth the way to a border poll and the union of the two irelands ? | |||
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"Nah just grabbing the popcorn and waiting for the fun when the penny finally drops Judging by people on here, i don't think it ever will drop. The denial is so strong, and if people get past that, they move to blame instead, EU, Remainers, anyone except people who voted for it. They already at the stage where they are trying to convince themselves they did the right thing. There threads really need to be bookmarked." Who you trying to convince? We knew that before the opportunity was offered to vote. That hasn't changed, but what comes across very clear is you and many Bemoaners are trying to convince yourselves that you think it was wrong, certainly not the other way. You'll be doing it for quite some time I'm sure but those who voted to leave the sinking ship are patient enough to allow the time for the dust to settle and move forward. | |||
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"Brexit is Done. " Well, it's done in the way that the paperwork has been signed, but it's the gift that keeps giving. The Brexit effect will affect people's lives for a long time yet. Using a travel analogy, the ship has sailed, but it's a long way from arriving and that sea looks like it's gonna get rougher. | |||
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"Just read the southern Irish government complaining of the lack of support from Brussels on the issues. Never would have thought. Think with 85% support for the EU., with a border down the irish sea dividing the uk and picking up a lot of extra business from uk suppliers they are pretty happy. Apparently not so maybe your observations aren't as accurate as you'd like them to seem. Btw in you list of nonsense in your post of those leaving as if if it's such a blow, AXA is a French company and moving in their french office to Dublin demonstrates the need for the UK market. The Regulatory banking wing of the EU which is moving is just that, and the reason for their moving is because of the new paperwork and regulations which they haven't in place to operate in the UK. Michelin has been closing factories not just in the UK for the past 10 years and little to do with Brexit as to do with the company restructuring. Your silly reply to me on common market showed you know less on how the EU taxation system works. It may be common market but there's a lot of of internal taxation that happens. It's not that none happens as you imply. internal taxation is in principle allowed by EU law. BUT NOT If internal taxation is discriminatory against imported goods or protective of domestic goods. I could go on about your list, but it's mostly repetitive illustrating as per that youre selective with what is the truth. " Another angry brexiterr it's becoming a pattern, but seriously Ireland is our third or fourth biggest export market do we really want to piss them off... | |||
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"Just read the southern Irish government complaining of the lack of support from Brussels on the issues. Never would have thought. What are they complaining about to Brussels? I'd imagine with boris having cut NI loose they maybe seeking funds to smooth the way to a border poll and the union of the two irelands ?" Nothing if the irish times or rte.ie is anything to go by. | |||
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"Just read the southern Irish government complaining of the lack of support from Brussels on the issues. Never would have thought. What are they complaining about to Brussels? I'd imagine with boris having cut NI loose they maybe seeking funds to smooth the way to a border poll and the union of the two irelands ?" Not complaining at all. And if you think I'm concerned about NI being part of Ireland ,nope not concerned. Ive been saying that will happen ever since they allowed terrorists to have a foot in parliment and paramilitary involvement. Brexit hasn't done that at all if you really know the locals at all. I'm Welsh ![]() | |||
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"Surely there’s some sort of timescale the campaign is working to? When will we the people realise that Brussels was actually an amazing well run efficient organisation that existed for the good of the citizens of Europe, and not a retirement home for all the failed national politicians where they could enjoy taxpayer funded lobster and champagne? Brussels is a city. No it's not ![]() The pro brexit argument in a nutshell. | |||
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"Surely there’s some sort of timescale the campaign is working to? When will we the people realise that Brussels was actually an amazing well run efficient organisation that existed for the good of the citizens of Europe, and not a retirement home for all the failed national politicians where they could enjoy taxpayer funded lobster and champagne? Brussels is a city. No it's not ![]() Brussels City is in the region of Brussels. A remainer knowledge of Europe in a nutshell | |||
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"Just read the southern Irish government complaining of the lack of support from Brussels on the issues. Never would have thought. What are they complaining about to Brussels? I'd imagine with boris having cut NI loose they maybe seeking funds to smooth the way to a border poll and the union of the two irelands ? Not complaining at all. And if you think I'm concerned about NI being part of Ireland ,nope not concerned. Ive been saying that will happen ever since they allowed terrorists to have a foot in parliment and paramilitary involvement. Brexit hasn't done that at all if you really know the locals at all. I'm Welsh ![]() It's great u support that as a brexiteer. ![]() | |||
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"Just read the southern Irish government complaining of the lack of support from Brussels on the issues. Never would have thought. What are they complaining about to Brussels? I'd imagine with boris having cut NI loose they maybe seeking funds to smooth the way to a border poll and the union of the two irelands ? Not complaining at all. And if you think I'm concerned about NI being part of Ireland ,nope not concerned. Ive been saying that will happen ever since they allowed terrorists to have a foot in parliment and paramilitary involvement. Brexit hasn't done that at all if you really know the locals at all. I'm Welsh ![]() It's great u support that as a brexiteer. ![]() | |||
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"Nah just grabbing the popcorn and waiting for the fun when the penny finally drops Judging by people on here, i don't think it ever will drop. The denial is so strong, and if people get past that, they move to blame instead, EU, Remainers, anyone except people who voted for it. They already at the stage where they are trying to convince themselves they did the right thing. There threads really need to be bookmarked. Who you trying to convince? We knew that before the opportunity was offered to vote. That hasn't changed, but what comes across very clear is you and many Bemoaners are trying to convince yourselves that you think it was wrong, certainly not the other way. You'll be doing it for quite some time I'm sure but those who voted to leave the sinking ship are patient enough to allow the time for the dust to settle and move forward." I'm not trying to convince anyone. I know it was wrong but I'm not the one posting threads trying to convince other people it was a mistake. I dont need to convince myself of anything..you have put your faith in the likes of Jacob reece mogg,boris Johnson and paul nuttall and it's going to be fucking hysterical to see how that pans out. I actually cant wait. The fact that you have to use rather pathetic derogatory terms ,just shows your level of faith. | |||
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"Surely there’s some sort of timescale the campaign is working to? When will we the people realise that Brussels was actually an amazing well run efficient organisation that existed for the good of the citizens of Europe, and not a retirement home for all the failed national politicians where they could enjoy taxpayer funded lobster and champagne? Brussels is a city. No it's not ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Surely there’s some sort of timescale the campaign is working to? When will we the people realise that Brussels was actually an amazing well run efficient organisation that existed for the good of the citizens of Europe, and not a retirement home for all the failed national politicians where they could enjoy taxpayer funded lobster and champagne? Brussels is a city. No it's not ![]() ![]() See above ![]() | |||
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"Seems to me you need to choose some sort of figurehead to lead the campaign. How about... Mandelson? Any of the three Kinnocks? Heseltine lol? I’m struggling here, maybe a foreigner? What’s Sarkozy upto? Could Strauss Kahn make a comeback? " Trump's free? ![]() | |||
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"Seems to me you need to choose some sort of figurehead to lead the campaign. How about... Mandelson? Any of the three Kinnocks? Heseltine lol? I’m struggling here, maybe a foreigner? What’s Sarkozy upto? Could Strauss Kahn make a comeback? " Boris johnson ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Just read the southern Irish government complaining of the lack of support from Brussels on the issues. Never would have thought. What are they complaining about to Brussels? I'd imagine with boris having cut NI loose they maybe seeking funds to smooth the way to a border poll and the union of the two irelands ? Not complaining at all. And if you think I'm concerned about NI being part of Ireland ,nope not concerned. Ive been saying that will happen ever since they allowed terrorists to have a foot in parliment and paramilitary involvement. Brexit hasn't done that at all if you really know the locals at all. I'm Welsh ![]() Sometimes you read a post and you think what the everloving fuck was that about. | |||
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"Surely there’s some sort of timescale the campaign is working to? When will we the people realise that Brussels was actually an amazing well run efficient organisation that existed for the good of the citizens of Europe, and not a retirement home for all the failed national politicians where they could enjoy taxpayer funded lobster and champagne? Brussels is a city. No it's not ![]() Pro brexit logic in a nutshell. (You're making this too easy). I'm out, enjoy your collective brexit backslapping/confusion fest. | |||
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"Seems to me you need to choose some sort of figurehead to lead the campaign. How about... Mandelson? Any of the three Kinnocks? Heseltine lol? I’m struggling here, maybe a foreigner? What’s Sarkozy upto? Could Strauss Kahn make a comeback? Trump's free? ![]() Not for long. | |||
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"Just read the southern Irish government complaining of the lack of support from Brussels on the issues. Never would have thought. What are they complaining about to Brussels? I'd imagine with boris having cut NI loose they maybe seeking funds to smooth the way to a border poll and the union of the two irelands ? Not complaining at all. And if you think I'm concerned about NI being part of Ireland ,nope not concerned. Ive been saying that will happen ever since they allowed terrorists to have a foot in parliment and paramilitary involvement. Brexit hasn't done that at all if you really know the locals at all. I'm Welsh ![]() Making a point about Ireland complaining,then saying not concerned about Ireland and something about terrorism. Standard | |||
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"All seems to have gone a bit quiet. Surely you haven’t all given up already?" When did we leave? I doubt we will be rejoining just yet, the EU wont want us back for a while ![]() | |||
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"Just read the southern Irish government complaining of the lack of support from Brussels on the issues. Never would have thought. What are they complaining about to Brussels? I'd imagine with boris having cut NI loose they maybe seeking funds to smooth the way to a border poll and the union of the two irelands ? Not complaining at all. And if you think I'm concerned about NI being part of Ireland ,nope not concerned. Ive been saying that will happen ever since they allowed terrorists to have a foot in parliment and paramilitary involvement. Brexit hasn't done that at all if you really know the locals at all. I'm Welsh ![]() ![]() Don't twist my words. Something you guys really need to work much better on if you'll be listened too. Another point is don't generalise all Brexiteers as thinking the same. ![]() | |||
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"All seems to have gone a bit quiet. Surely you haven’t all given up already? When did we leave? I doubt we will be rejoining just yet, the EU wont want us back for a while ![]() Indeed. They wouldn't want others to think all their hurdles they put in place to exit could be removed so easily. ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Surely there’s some sort of timescale the campaign is working to? When will we the people realise that Brussels was actually an amazing well run efficient organisation that existed for the good of the citizens of Europe, and not a retirement home for all the failed national politicians where they could enjoy taxpayer funded lobster and champagne? Brussels is a city. No it's not ![]() I think you will find it is, | |||
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"Just read the southern Irish government complaining of the lack of support from Brussels on the issues. Never would have thought. What are they complaining about to Brussels? I'd imagine with boris having cut NI loose they maybe seeking funds to smooth the way to a border poll and the union of the two irelands ? Not complaining at all. And if you think I'm concerned about NI being part of Ireland ,nope not concerned. Ive been saying that will happen ever since they allowed terrorists to have a foot in parliment and paramilitary involvement. Brexit hasn't done that at all if you really know the locals at all. I'm Welsh ![]() ![]() ![]() That's why I'm surprised as a brexiteer your expecting a U.I., generally brexiteers are like the guy earlier who spent 35 years importing Dutch veg and now suddenly when he is forced to buy British hes a patriot. | |||
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"All seems to have gone a bit quiet. Surely you haven’t all given up already? When did we leave? I doubt we will be rejoining just yet, the EU wont want us back for a while ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Haha, that is hilarious, I can’t imagine any other country wanting or being stupid enough to go through what we did for absolutely no gain . If Brexit is a success then there will be no need to rejoin, if it isn’t then we will . | |||
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"2 years of civil war 2 years of chaos Parliament paragoed, countless votes in parliament,international law threatened to be broken,a forced general election,so.many u turns we have lost count,fisherman sold down the river,a country took to the brink of a no deal disaster and shichms in society that will last for years.. and that's showing other countries how it can be Done? ![]() Yeah but , sovereignty ?? ![]() | |||
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"2 years of civil war 2 years of chaos Parliament paragoed, countless votes in parliament,international law threatened to be broken,a forced general election,so.many u turns we have lost count,fisherman sold down the river,a country took to the brink of a no deal disaster and shichms in society that will last for years.. and that's showing other countries how it can be Done? ![]() That's a good round-up of a lot of Labours History TY. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Surely there’s some sort of timescale the campaign is working to? When will we the people realise that Brussels was actually an amazing well run efficient organisation that existed for the good of the citizens of Europe, and not a retirement home for all the failed national politicians where they could enjoy taxpayer funded lobster and champagne? Brussels is a city. No it's not ![]() I'll say it again. Brussels is a region containing municipalities including Brussels City | |||
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"2 years of civil war 2 years of chaos Parliament paragoed, countless votes in parliament,international law threatened to be broken,a forced general election,so.many u turns we have lost count,fisherman sold down the river,a country took to the brink of a no deal disaster and shichms in society that will last for years.. and that's showing other countries how it can be Done? ![]() ![]() It is actually funny..3 Years of utter chaos an uncertain future and we turn to europe and go...see how easy it is? ![]() ![]() | |||
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"All seems to have gone a bit quiet. Surely you haven’t all given up already?" Not sure exactly what you're trying to say "being diplomatic version" While as a remain voter myself I have no desire for arguing to rejoin at all. I know exactly what you're OP is aiming at and frankly it's really childish "honest accurate version" ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Surely there’s some sort of timescale the campaign is working to? When will we the people realise that Brussels was actually an amazing well run efficient organisation that existed for the good of the citizens of Europe, and not a retirement home for all the failed national politicians where they could enjoy taxpayer funded lobster and champagne? Brussels is a city. No it's not ![]() You're both right and as you well know but to argue this shows how silly the way remoaners argue. | |||
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"Surely there’s some sort of timescale the campaign is working to? When will we the people realise that Brussels was actually an amazing well run efficient organisation that existed for the good of the citizens of Europe, and not a retirement home for all the failed national politicians where they could enjoy taxpayer funded lobster and champagne? Brussels is a city. No it's not ![]() What is a ‘remoaner’ and in what way do they argue ? | |||
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"Surely there’s some sort of timescale the campaign is working to? When will we the people realise that Brussels was actually an amazing well run efficient organisation that existed for the good of the citizens of Europe, and not a retirement home for all the failed national politicians where they could enjoy taxpayer funded lobster and champagne? Brussels is a city. No it's not ![]() nit picking at its v best. OK then Brussels, is, a region, the city of Brussels which is in Brussels is a city... | |||
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"Surely there’s some sort of timescale the campaign is working to? When will we the people realise that Brussels was actually an amazing well run efficient organisation that existed for the good of the citizens of Europe, and not a retirement home for all the failed national politicians where they could enjoy taxpayer funded lobster and champagne? Brussels is a city. No it's not ![]() Collins Dictionary: "A Remoaner is a person who wants to change the results of Thursday 23 June 2016 EU Referendum in the UK. Behaviour is typified by muttering under their breath about things that may or may not happen in the future. Oh and taking their ball home, when reminded that the Election was Democratically undertaken. is over, or we now need to get on with it, no matter what residual feelings they have left about how it was so derived." | |||
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"All seems to have gone a bit quiet. Surely you haven’t all given up already? Not sure exactly what you're trying to say "being diplomatic version" While as a remain voter myself I have no desire for arguing to rejoin at all. I know exactly what you're OP is aiming at and frankly it's really childish "honest accurate version" ![]() ![]() Of course that’s fine, I respect your vote and your desire to move on and I look forward to only entirely positive contributions in future ![]() | |||
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"Surely there’s some sort of timescale the campaign is working to? When will we the people realise that Brussels was actually an amazing well run efficient organisation that existed for the good of the citizens of Europe, and not a retirement home for all the failed national politicians where they could enjoy taxpayer funded lobster and champagne? Brussels is a city. No it's not ![]() I didn't start the nitpicking though, I'm sure we all know what the OP meant by 'Brussels' ![]() | |||
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"Seems to me you need to choose some sort of figurehead to lead the campaign. How about... Mandelson? Any of the three Kinnocks? Heseltine lol? I’m struggling here, maybe a foreigner? What’s Sarkozy upto? Could Strauss Kahn make a comeback? " Not being funny but I’d really like some leadership suggestions, surely someone charismatic and respected can be found? No point launching the campaign otherwise, seriously. | |||
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"Seems to me you need to choose some sort of figurehead to lead the campaign. How about... Mandelson? Any of the three Kinnocks? Heseltine lol? I’m struggling here, maybe a foreigner? What’s Sarkozy upto? Could Strauss Kahn make a comeback? Not being funny but I’d really like some leadership suggestions, surely someone charismatic and respected can be found? No point launching the campaign otherwise, seriously." Someone like Farage? | |||
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"Seems to me you need to choose some sort of figurehead to lead the campaign. How about... Mandelson? Any of the three Kinnocks? Heseltine lol? I’m struggling here, maybe a foreigner? What’s Sarkozy upto? Could Strauss Kahn make a comeback? Not being funny but I’d really like some leadership suggestions, surely someone charismatic and respected can be found? No point launching the campaign otherwise, seriously. Someone like Farage? " Or boris You need someone you can trust implicitly. | |||
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"I’m starting a new trading bloc - the Atlantic Alliance. Ireland and Iceland are in. Which other countries should I consider?" Trump Island? | |||
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"_____________________________________ In *10* days 22 Thousand Lorries have passed through the Port of Dover with correctly filled Electronic Passports and those trucks have gone through without delays. 705 have been turned away - and 154 fined for non-compliance. So by and large it's working. _____________________________________ We have no figures for Eurotunnel but if there was a problem - you betya' we would know about it! Now I know FACT based reporting is a bit difficult to accept against your wanting for it to fail . . . but, So far. So Good. (and don't forget to add the - 'we'll see then won't we' in your reply). ![]() ![]() ![]() This is turning out far worse than was expected. An average of 10,000 trucks A DAY passed through Dover alone in 2018. The brexit pig grunts again. | |||
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"_____________________________________ In *10* days 22 Thousand Lorries have passed through the Port of Dover with correctly filled Electronic Passports and those trucks have gone through without delays. 705 have been turned away - and 154 fined for non-compliance. So by and large it's working. _____________________________________ We have no figures for Eurotunnel but if there was a problem - you betya' we would know about it! Now I know FACT based reporting is a bit difficult to accept against your wanting for it to fail . . . but, So far. So Good. (and don't forget to add the - 'we'll see then won't we' in your reply). ![]() ![]() ![]() Let me just check..., Oh Covid is still around apparently. | |||
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"_____________________________________ In *10* days 22 Thousand Lorries have passed through the Port of Dover with correctly filled Electronic Passports and those trucks have gone through without delays. 705 have been turned away - and 154 fined for non-compliance. So by and large it's working. _____________________________________ We have no figures for Eurotunnel but if there was a problem - you betya' we would know about it! Now I know FACT based reporting is a bit difficult to accept against your wanting for it to fail . . . but, So far. So Good. (and don't forget to add the - 'we'll see then won't we' in your reply). ![]() ![]() ![]() Plus a new customs border and tariffs and some paperwork chris ![]() | |||
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"_____________________________________ In *10* days 22 Thousand Lorries have passed through the Port of Dover with correctly filled Electronic Passports and those trucks have gone through without delays. 705 have been turned away - and 154 fined for non-compliance. So by and large it's working. _____________________________________ We have no figures for Eurotunnel but if there was a problem - you betya' we would know about it! Now I know FACT based reporting is a bit difficult to accept against your wanting for it to fail . . . but, So far. So Good. (and don't forget to add the - 'we'll see then won't we' in your reply). ![]() ![]() ![]() The ready made excuse, at least you can’t try and use that for another 12 months ![]() | |||
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"I’m starting a new trading bloc - the Atlantic Alliance. Ireland and Iceland are in. Which other countries should I consider? Trump Island?" good idea - I could make him head of security or chief entertainment officer? | |||
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"Does anyone have a link to the Rejoin campaign website? Can only find a couple of references to Lord Adonis but no actual website, that can’t be right? Surely they can get this organised?" When did we leave? | |||
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"From Kent Live (I guess they would know too) Some had predicted chaos on local roads because of extra border checks necessitated by the UK leaving the EU's Single Market and Customs Union. Although the gloomiest predictions related to a no-deal scenario that was avoided at the last minute, delays in the weeks before Christmas had many fearing the worst. Queues in Folkestone and Dover in November and December were said to be due to extra freight traffic, believed to be a result of companies stockpiling ahead of Brexit." 80% drop saddest thing is some of this trade will never come back. Why? Many uk companies have stopped shipping to northern ireland because it's now too costly and just hassle, similarly there will be less uk/euro trade, also the thousands of Irish lorries are now going direct to Europe Causing a loss of revenue in our ports, tolls, service stations etc. | |||
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"Come on let’s keep to the topic, the rejoin campaign. Good news coming, apparently there’s a prospect of a dynamic selfless well respected everyman leading the charge. It’s..... Tony Blair !!!!!!" Zzzzzzzzzzz | |||
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"For those reasons above." Just glad we didn't give everyone the impression things were back to normal ![]() | |||
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"From Kent Live (I guess they would know too) Some had predicted chaos on local roads because of extra border checks necessitated by the UK leaving the EU's Single Market and Customs Union. Although the gloomiest predictions related to a no-deal scenario that was avoided at the last minute, delays in the weeks before Christmas had many fearing the worst. Queues in Folkestone and Dover in November and December were said to be due to extra freight traffic, believed to be a result of companies stockpiling ahead of Brexit." This stockpiling is true and added to the Christmas traffic. On top of this the meltdown at Felixstowe meant a lot of cargo from the rest of the world went to Antwerp and Rotterdam to be unloaded as the ships couldn’t get into the U.K. A lot of those loads were then road freighted to the U.K. adding to the mess. The first few weeks of a new year are always quiet but will be especially quiet due to the rush to beat Brexit. Most companies including us re scheduled exports for later in the month to learn the reality. It’s giving the government a breather to try and sort the problems which is a good thing. The costs are still going to be born by U.K. business and I do agree some trades will stop. When some U.K. companies are competing on small margin exports they will lose out to Eu suppliers. That is financial inevitability. Let’s hope we can move to a better system that’s cheaper before it’s too late for some. | |||
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"Come on let’s keep to the topic, the rejoin campaign. Good news coming, apparently there’s a prospect of a dynamic selfless well respected everyman leading the charge. It’s..... Tony Blair !!!!!!" The thing is, apart from scare stories, they couldn't come up with any good reasons to remain, so without even those to rely on, what hope is there of persuading people to rejoin? ![]() | |||
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"Come on let’s keep to the topic, the rejoin campaign. Good news coming, apparently there’s a prospect of a dynamic selfless well respected everyman leading the charge. It’s..... Tony Blair !!!!!!" Why are you so scared about the uk rejoining the EU? Once the unicorns start laying golden eggs across the country there will be no need to rejoin, chill out, drink some British wine and bask in the glory of your new found sovereignty. ![]() | |||
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"Come on let’s keep to the topic, the rejoin campaign. Good news coming, apparently there’s a prospect of a dynamic selfless well respected everyman leading the charge. It’s..... Tony Blair !!!!!! Why are you so scared about the uk rejoining the EU? Once the unicorns start laying golden eggs across the country there will be no need to rejoin, chill out, drink some British wine and bask in the glory of your new found sovereignty. ![]() ![]() Are you sure? I though they were going to Brexit voters first, ![]() | |||
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"Is there any news on the first 350m ? Thought boris would be happy to let everyone know,Perhaps they sent a cheque instead of a wire transfer it's taking a bit longer, I'd imagine they will make a start on the 40 new hospitals with the first cheque." Well there will be an extra 18.2 billion (52 x 350 million) at the end of the year to spend , Brexit bonus ![]() | |||
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"Is there any news on the first 350m ? Thought boris would be happy to let everyone know,Perhaps they sent a cheque instead of a wire transfer it's taking a bit longer, I'd imagine they will make a start on the 40 new hospitals with the first cheque." Apparently it doesnt count as they never actually specified how much would be spent on the NHS. | |||
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"Is there any news on the first 350m ? Thought boris would be happy to let everyone know,Perhaps they sent a cheque instead of a wire transfer it's taking a bit longer, I'd imagine they will make a start on the 40 new hospitals with the first cheque. Well there will be an extra 18.2 billion (52 x 350 million) at the end of the year to spend , Brexit bonus ![]() No no, 9 billion extra, then the other 9 billion that Brussels told us how to spend, we get to decide ![]() | |||
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"Is there any news on the first 350m ? Thought boris would be happy to let everyone know,Perhaps they sent a cheque instead of a wire transfer it's taking a bit longer, I'd imagine they will make a start on the 40 new hospitals with the first cheque. Well there will be an extra 18.2 billion (52 x 350 million) at the end of the year to spend , Brexit bonus ![]() ![]() Ah, 9 & 9 is 18 billion? , will that be at the end of the year or spread out every week or month? | |||
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"This thread is so pathetic so sad" Just like your comment ![]() | |||
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"This thread is so pathetic so sad Just like your comment ![]() Your all as pathetic as Trump you cannot admit defeat,maybe you should get him as your leader ![]() | |||
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"This thread is so pathetic so sad Just like your comment ![]() ![]() Is this aimed at the OP? If you don’t like the thread why comment? ![]() | |||
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"Is there any news on the first 350m ? Thought boris would be happy to let everyone know,Perhaps they sent a cheque instead of a wire transfer it's taking a bit longer, I'd imagine they will make a start on the 40 new hospitals with the first cheque." "The UK's EU membership fee 8 July 2019 The UK pays more into the EU budget than it gets back. In 2018 the UK government paid £13 billion to the EU budget, and EU spending on the UK was forecast to be £4 billion. So the UK’s ‘net contribution’ was estimated at nearly £9 billion. Each year the UK gets a discount on its contributions to the EU—the ‘rebate’—worth about £4 billion last year. Without it the UK would have been liable for £17 billion in contributions." from: FACTCHECK So. All the filthy lucre won't leave the bank on a string of lorries to the EU. | |||
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"Come on let’s keep to the topic, the rejoin campaign. Good news coming, apparently there’s a prospect of a dynamic selfless well respected everyman leading the charge. It’s..... Tony Blair !!!!!! Why are you so scared about the uk rejoining the EU? Once the unicorns start laying golden eggs across the country there will be no need to rejoin, chill out, drink some British wine and bask in the glory of your new found sovereignty. ![]() ![]() ![]() Chapel Down Kent wine? I bet the French wine makers are shitting themselves, ![]() | |||
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"Come on let’s keep to the topic, the rejoin campaign. Good news coming, apparently there’s a prospect of a dynamic selfless well respected everyman leading the charge. It’s..... Tony Blair !!!!!! Why are you so scared about the uk rejoining the EU? Once the unicorns start laying golden eggs across the country there will be no need to rejoin, chill out, drink some British wine and bask in the glory of your new found sovereignty. ![]() To be fair i dont think the OP made any comments to say they were scared, just asked about any rejoin campaign | |||
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"Come on let’s keep to the topic, the rejoin campaign. Good news coming, apparently there’s a prospect of a dynamic selfless well respected everyman leading the charge. It’s..... Tony Blair !!!!!! Why are you so scared about the uk rejoining the EU? Once the unicorns start laying golden eggs across the country there will be no need to rejoin, chill out, drink some British wine and bask in the glory of your new found sovereignty. ![]() Why though? We only left a week ago? | |||
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"Under the Brexit provision, any goods will be subject to a customs levy if they arrive in Britain from abroad and are then exported back into the European Union. Here's an example for the slower brexiteers. If a British clothing retailer imports Chinese-made textiles, then it would have to pay a customs charge if it re-exports the items into a member nation of the EU’s single market and customs union. U can dress it in the finest silk but deep down it's always a fcuking pig." Which all in all is great motivation to get stuck back into our manufacturing base. Plus we can Trade on a World Market worth 8.5 trillion $ - Total EU trade 640 billion (which we still have in our continuance deal) With all the world trade deals we have ALREADY signed in to we have $1203.94bn. And 22 Trade deals in various stages of discussion signing and pre-agreement status. Feeeling Guuuuuuuuud !!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"9 billion / 12 = seven hundred fifty million a Month. Feels good. Wow, that will come in handy, I hope the government spend it wisely " Yep I'm sure they will spend it where it's most needed | |||
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"9 billion / 12 = seven hundred fifty million a Month. Feels good. Wow, that will come in handy, I hope the government spend it wisely Yep I'm sure they will spend it where it's most needed " But. Ours to spend. ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"9 billion / 12 = seven hundred fifty million a Month. Feels good. Wow, that will come in handy, I hope the government spend it wisely Yep I'm sure they will spend it where it's most needed But. Ours to spend. ![]() ![]() ![]() I'm sure the residents of cornwall fully agree with you ![]() | |||
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"We are that much better off they have already announced a pay feeze for many key workers who worked through the pandemic. The Futute is looking brighter already. " Pandemic related - but with an extra 9 billion we aren't spending on Brussels's Sprouts. But you know what, I think by and large the government have spent a lot on pandemic related issues - not perfectly, and not maybe at times those things that you or I may differently want it spent. Naive to pretend it's related to Brexit after 9 fooking days of leaving. | |||
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"9 billion / 12 = seven hundred fifty million a Month. Feels good. Wow, that will come in handy, I hope the government spend it wisely Yep I'm sure they will spend it where it's most needed But. Ours to spend. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Yup. Called Taxes. The Government don't actually have any money. | |||
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"Under the Brexit provision, any goods will be subject to a customs levy if they arrive in Britain from abroad and are then exported back into the European Union. Here's an example for the slower brexiteers. If a British clothing retailer imports Chinese-made textiles, then it would have to pay a customs charge if it re-exports the items into a member nation of the EU’s single market and customs union. U can dress it in the finest silk but deep down it's always a fcuking pig. Which all in all is great motivation to get stuck back into our manufacturing base. Plus we can Trade on a World Market worth 8.5 trillion $ - Total EU trade 640 billion (which we still have in our continuance deal) With all the world trade deals we have ALREADY signed in to we have $1203.94bn. And 22 Trade deals in various stages of discussion signing and pre-agreement status. Feeeling Guuuuuuuuud !!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Yipeeee more blue sky thinking lets import the cotton and start making clothes lol and with growing all our own food we can turn the pig into a unicorn....that's if we don't have to eat it first. | |||
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"Under the Brexit provision, any goods will be subject to a customs levy if they arrive in Britain from abroad and are then exported back into the European Union. Here's an example for the slower brexiteers. If a British clothing retailer imports Chinese-made textiles, then it would have to pay a customs charge if it re-exports the items into a member nation of the EU’s single market and customs union. U can dress it in the finest silk but deep down it's always a fcuking pig. Which all in all is great motivation to get stuck back into our manufacturing base. Plus we can Trade on a World Market worth 8.5 trillion $ - Total EU trade 640 billion (which we still have in our continuance deal) With all the world trade deals we have ALREADY signed in to we have $1203.94bn. And 22 Trade deals in various stages of discussion signing and pre-agreement status. Feeeling Guuuuuuuuud !!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Glad you agree with the FACTS. Good to have you on-board. ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"We are that much better off they have already announced a pay feeze for many key workers who worked through the pandemic. The Futute is looking brighter already. Pandemic related - but with an extra 9 billion we aren't spending on Brussels's Sprouts. But you know what, I think by and large the government have spent a lot on pandemic related issues - not perfectly, and not maybe at times those things that you or I may differently want it spent. Naive to pretend it's related to Brexit after 9 fooking days of leaving. " ![]() | |||
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"Under the Brexit provision, any goods will be subject to a customs levy if they arrive in Britain from abroad and are then exported back into the European Union. Here's an example for the slower brexiteers. If a British clothing retailer imports Chinese-made textiles, then it would have to pay a customs charge if it re-exports the items into a member nation of the EU’s single market and customs union. U can dress it in the finest silk but deep down it's always a fcuking pig. Which all in all is great motivation to get stuck back into our manufacturing base. Plus we can Trade on a World Market worth 8.5 trillion $ - Total EU trade 640 billion (which we still have in our continuance deal) With all the world trade deals we have ALREADY signed in to we have $1203.94bn. And 22 Trade deals in various stages of discussion signing and pre-agreement status. Feeeling Guuuuuuuuud !!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Just a shame they seem to be pointing to a poorer future. Still on the positive side lots of farm labouring jobs ![]() | |||
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" Of course it is! Oh they have..they spent about £11b on lining the pockets of their mates and that's got to be paid back." Yea Furlough. Business Support. Vaccination Costs and gawd know what the fluck else never got a look in. ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Under the Brexit provision, any goods will be subject to a customs levy if they arrive in Britain from abroad and are then exported back into the European Union. Here's an example for the slower brexiteers. If a British clothing retailer imports Chinese-made textiles, then it would have to pay a customs charge if it re-exports the items into a member nation of the EU’s single market and customs union. U can dress it in the finest silk but deep down it's always a fcuking pig. Which all in all is great motivation to get stuck back into our manufacturing base. Plus we can Trade on a World Market worth 8.5 trillion $ - Total EU trade 640 billion (which we still have in our continuance deal) With all the world trade deals we have ALREADY signed in to we have $1203.94bn. And 22 Trade deals in various stages of discussion signing and pre-agreement status. Feeeling Guuuuuuuuud !!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() In your OPINION. | |||
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" Of course it is! Oh they have..they spent about £11b on lining the pockets of their mates and that's got to be paid back. Yea Furlough. Business Support. Vaccination Costs and gawd know what the fluck else never got a look in. ![]() ![]() ![]() They had a couple of options to claw back some of the money. It was suggested that those earning the most money contribute an extra 1% of their salary. Or they could freeze the wages of people who had worked through the pandemic. Bearing in mind they have just come out of a 6 year pay freeze. I'm sure they deliberated long and hard over that one. | |||
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"Come on let’s keep to the topic, the rejoin campaign. Good news coming, apparently there’s a prospect of a dynamic selfless well respected everyman leading the charge. It’s..... Tony Blair !!!!!! Why are you so scared about the uk rejoining the EU? Once the unicorns start laying golden eggs across the country there will be no need to rejoin, chill out, drink some British wine and bask in the glory of your new found sovereignty. ![]() Why not? It's their choice and right to ask as far as I know. They maybe thinking that as we legally left over 11 months ago there might be some movement on it. That's just a guess on my part so best ask the person concerned | |||
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"_____________________________________ In *10* days 22 Thousand Lorries have passed through the Port of Dover with correctly filled Electronic Passports and those trucks have gone through without delays. 705 have been turned away - and 154 fined for non-compliance. So by and large it's working. _____________________________________ We have no figures for Eurotunnel but if there was a problem - you betya' we would know about it! Now I know FACT based reporting is a bit difficult to accept against your wanting for it to fail . . . but, So far. So Good. (and don't forget to add the - 'we'll see then won't we' in your reply). ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Which tariffs are these again ? The average of lorries is 6300,that is in and out so it's about 3000 going out. So over the ten days just after xmas it is 2200, I wonder what the average for those ten days in a normal year is. But hey simple things like facts tend to get lost on remainers | |||
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"Come on let’s keep to the topic, the rejoin campaign. Good news coming, apparently there’s a prospect of a dynamic selfless well respected everyman leading the charge. It’s..... Tony Blair !!!!!! Why are you so scared about the uk rejoining the EU? Once the unicorns start laying golden eggs across the country there will be no need to rejoin, chill out, drink some British wine and bask in the glory of your new found sovereignty. ![]() I asked because Lord Adonis said on New Year’s Eve that the campaign to rejoin starts here, and a few fabbers I think started the Breturn threads? I’d be interested in following what happens with a proper campaign but not sure it’s been officially launched. I’m not saying there’s a lot of inspirational politicians out there from any party. | |||
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"_____________________________________ In *10* days 22 Thousand Lorries have passed through the Port of Dover with correctly filled Electronic Passports and those trucks have gone through without delays. 705 have been turned away - and 154 fined for non-compliance. So by and large it's working. _____________________________________ We have no figures for Eurotunnel but if there was a problem - you betya' we would know about it! Now I know FACT based reporting is a bit difficult to accept against your wanting for it to fail . . . but, So far. So Good. (and don't forget to add the - 'we'll see then won't we' in your reply). ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I'll give u a quick lesson chris. Company in india sends two containers, one to uk one to say Belgium both cost the same. Half the Belgium one then goes to italy at no extra cost as there are no borders Half the uk container goes to italy but has customs duty slapped on. ![]() | |||
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"_____________________________________ In *10* days 22 Thousand Lorries have passed through the Port of Dover with correctly filled Electronic Passports and those trucks have gone through without delays. 705 have been turned away - and 154 fined for non-compliance. So by and large it's working. _____________________________________ We have no figures for Eurotunnel but if there was a problem - you betya' we would know about it! Now I know FACT based reporting is a bit difficult to accept against your wanting for it to fail . . . but, So far. So Good. (and don't forget to add the - 'we'll see then won't we' in your reply). ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The figure of 10 000 is quoted as a "busy" day the average is just over 6500. The figure of 22000 in the ten days is the outgoing figure AFAIK the incoming figure hasn't been released so your figures are wrong, There will be tariffs on goods that are imported here and then exported or goods that are made here with above a certain percentage of non uk content, the same applies the other way round. There are no tariffs on uk exports. Let's revisit this in a month and see the numbers, we can then see who is right and what the delays are. | |||
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"_____________________________________ In *10* days 22 Thousand Lorries have passed through the Port of Dover with correctly filled Electronic Passports and those trucks have gone through without delays. 705 have been turned away - and 154 fined for non-compliance. So by and large it's working. _____________________________________ We have no figures for Eurotunnel but if there was a problem - you betya' we would know about it! Now I know FACT based reporting is a bit difficult to accept against your wanting for it to fail . . . but, So far. So Good. (and don't forget to add the - 'we'll see then won't we' in your reply). ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Nope, UK puts its own customs charges on and Belgium puts its own (different) customs charges on. Country of origin sorts the rest but the customs charges are down to each country, nothing to do with Brexit or indeed being in the EU. | |||
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"Surely there’s some sort of timescale the campaign is working to? When will we the people realise that Brussels was actually an amazing well run efficient organisation that existed for the good of the citizens of Europe, and not a retirement home for all the failed national politicians where they could enjoy taxpayer funded lobster and champagne? Brussels is a city. No it's not ![]() Absolute classic and on point. It's going up on my wall. ![]() | |||
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"Surely there’s some sort of timescale the campaign is working to? When will we the people realise that Brussels was actually an amazing well run efficient organisation that existed for the good of the citizens of Europe, and not a retirement home for all the failed national politicians where they could enjoy taxpayer funded lobster and champagne? Brussels is a city. No it's not ![]() ![]() Beside the map of a united ireland ! | |||
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"No, anyone who reexports reclaims the customs charge using the form I listed above. No net difference to us compared to last year. " Lol so why would the Italians charge in the first place if they hand it back again, think it out before u answer. | |||
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"No, anyone who reexports reclaims the customs charge using the form I listed above. No net difference to us compared to last year. Lol so why would the Italians charge in the first place if they hand it back again, think it out before u answer." What, you mean like VAT? This is getting a bit silly tbh. | |||
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"No, anyone who reexports reclaims the customs charge using the form I listed above. No net difference to us compared to last year. Lol so why would the Italians charge in the first place if they hand it back again, think it out before u answer. What, you mean like VAT? This is getting a bit silly tbh. " C&E1179 ? That's the form you said...that's for rejected imports. Lol. Do you really not understand ? You expect europe to allow the uk import cheap junk from china or wherever and allow them to flood Europe at no cost?. Wakey wakey chris. | |||
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"Just trying to think of a defeniton of a brexiteer.. I'm sure we could do a list No1 lack of comprehension. " Has a weakness for empty rhetoric and meaningless slogans. Tends to believe charlatans over the voice of actual experts. | |||
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"Just trying to think of a defeniton of a brexiteer.. I'm sure we could do a list No1 lack of comprehension. Has a weakness for empty rhetoric and meaningless slogans. Tends to believe charlatans over the voice of actual experts." I think the brexiteer truly believes the pig will some day morph into a unicorn. | |||
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"No, anyone who reexports reclaims the customs charge using the form I listed above. No net difference to us compared to last year. Lol so why would the Italians charge in the first place if they hand it back again, think it out before u answer. What, you mean like VAT? This is getting a bit silly tbh. C&E1179 ? That's the form you said...that's for rejected imports. Lol. Do you really not understand ? You expect europe to allow the uk import cheap junk from china or wherever and allow them to flood Europe at no cost?. Wakey wakey chris." No, it's the form used for re exporting, I gave you the link to click on. I keep saying level playing field, each European country pays ONE customs duty for a Chinese import, as do we. Simple stuff. Sounds like once again remainers once educated a bit more change their argument from 'its worse than we had before" to "ah but its not an improvement" wah wah Just lol | |||
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"No, anyone who reexports reclaims the customs charge using the form I listed above. No net difference to us compared to last year. Lol so why would the Italians charge in the first place if they hand it back again, think it out before u answer. What, you mean like VAT? This is getting a bit silly tbh. C&E1179 ? That's the form you said...that's for rejected imports. Lol. Do you really not understand ? You expect europe to allow the uk import cheap junk from china or wherever and allow them to flood Europe at no cost?. Wakey wakey chris. No, it's the form used for re exporting, I gave you the link to click on. I keep saying level playing field, each European country pays ONE customs duty for a Chinese import, as do we. Simple stuff. Sounds like once again remainers once educated a bit more change their argument from 'its worse than we had before" to "ah but its not an improvement" wah wah Just lol" C&E1179 This was the form u posted it's on your post further up for everyone to see. | |||
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"No, anyone who reexports reclaims the customs charge using the form I listed above. No net difference to us compared to last year. Lol so why would the Italians charge in the first place if they hand it back again, think it out before u answer. What, you mean like VAT? This is getting a bit silly tbh. C&E1179 ? That's the form you said...that's for rejected imports. Lol. Do you really not understand ? You expect europe to allow the uk import cheap junk from china or wherever and allow them to flood Europe at no cost?. Wakey wakey chris. No, it's the form used for re exporting, I gave you the link to click on. I keep saying level playing field, each European country pays ONE customs duty for a Chinese import, as do we. Simple stuff. Sounds like once again remainers once educated a bit more change their argument from 'its worse than we had before" to "ah but its not an improvement" wah wah Just lol C&E1179 This was the form u posted it's on your post further up for everyone to see." From the link I gave you, these are really very simple matters of reading comprehension: "You can claim repayment or remission on goods imported from outside the UK when: you’ve rejected the goods because at the time of declaring them to a customs procedure they’re: defective damaged before being cleared by customs not compliant with the terms of the contract you imported them under they’re the same goods from the original customs declaration you’ve not used any goods, other than the minimum necessary to establish they were defective or did not comply with the contract you’ve not sold the goods after finding them to be defective, damaged or not compliant with the contract you’ll re-export or destroy the goods You cannot make a claim if you already knew the goods were damaged or defective when the contract for sale was made. You must submit form C&E1179 at least 48 hours before the goods are packed for re-export or destruction." | |||
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""You can claim repayment or remission on goods imported from outside the UK when: you’ve rejected the goods because at the time of declaring them to a customs procedure they’re: defective damaged before being cleared by customs not compliant with the terms of the contract you imported them under they’re the same goods from the original customs declaration you’ve not used any goods, other than the minimum necessary to establish they were defective or did not comply with the contract you’ve not sold the goods after finding them to be defective, damaged or not compliant with the contract you’ll re-export or destroy the goods You cannot make a claim if you already knew the goods were damaged or defective when the contract for sale was made. You must submit form C&E1179 at least 48 hours before the goods are packed for re-export or destruction."" is this some of the red tape people are talking about? i don't remember having to do any of that when purchasing items from the continent prior to 1st January. | |||
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"No, anyone who reexports reclaims the customs charge using the form I listed above. No net difference to us compared to last year. Lol so why would the Italians charge in the first place if they hand it back again, think it out before u answer. What, you mean like VAT? This is getting a bit silly tbh. C&E1179 ? That's the form you said...that's for rejected imports. Lol. Do you really not understand ? You expect europe to allow the uk import cheap junk from china or wherever and allow them to flood Europe at no cost?. Wakey wakey chris. No, it's the form used for re exporting, I gave you the link to click on. I keep saying level playing field, each European country pays ONE customs duty for a Chinese import, as do we. Simple stuff. Sounds like once again remainers once educated a bit more change their argument from 'its worse than we had before" to "ah but its not an improvement" wah wah Just lol C&E1179 This was the form u posted it's on your post further up for everyone to see. From the link I gave you, these are really very simple matters of reading comprehension: "You can claim repayment or remission on goods imported from outside the UK when: you’ve rejected the goods because at the time of declaring them to a customs procedure they’re: defective damaged before being cleared by customs not compliant with the terms of the contract you imported them under they’re the same goods from the original customs declaration you’ve not used any goods, other than the minimum necessary to establish they were defective or did not comply with the contract you’ve not sold the goods after finding them to be defective, damaged or not compliant with the contract you’ll re-export or destroy the goods You cannot make a claim if you already knew the goods were damaged or defective when the contract for sale was made. You must submit form C&E1179 at least 48 hours before the goods are packed for re-export or destruction."" So your saying u can claim on damaged goods but not on the 99% of normal undamaged goods. So looks like another brexit argument fails. ![]() | |||
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""You can claim repayment or remission on goods imported from outside the UK when: you’ve rejected the goods because at the time of declaring them to a customs procedure they’re: defective damaged before being cleared by customs not compliant with the terms of the contract you imported them under they’re the same goods from the original customs declaration you’ve not used any goods, other than the minimum necessary to establish they were defective or did not comply with the contract you’ve not sold the goods after finding them to be defective, damaged or not compliant with the contract you’ll re-export or destroy the goods You cannot make a claim if you already knew the goods were damaged or defective when the contract for sale was made. You must submit form C&E1179 at least 48 hours before the goods are packed for re-export or destruction." is this some of the red tape people are talking about? i don't remember having to do any of that when purchasing items from the continent prior to 1st January." No, this was from the discussion about imports from China | |||
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"No, anyone who reexports reclaims the customs charge using the form I listed above. No net difference to us compared to last year. Lol so why would the Italians charge in the first place if they hand it back again, think it out before u answer. What, you mean like VAT? This is getting a bit silly tbh. C&E1179 ? That's the form you said...that's for rejected imports. Lol. Do you really not understand ? You expect europe to allow the uk import cheap junk from china or wherever and allow them to flood Europe at no cost?. Wakey wakey chris. No, it's the form used for re exporting, I gave you the link to click on. I keep saying level playing field, each European country pays ONE customs duty for a Chinese import, as do we. Simple stuff. Sounds like once again remainers once educated a bit more change their argument from 'its worse than we had before" to "ah but its not an improvement" wah wah Just lol C&E1179 This was the form u posted it's on your post further up for everyone to see. From the link I gave you, these are really very simple matters of reading comprehension: "You can claim repayment or remission on goods imported from outside the UK when: you’ve rejected the goods because at the time of declaring them to a customs procedure they’re: defective damaged before being cleared by customs not compliant with the terms of the contract you imported them under they’re the same goods from the original customs declaration you’ve not used any goods, other than the minimum necessary to establish they were defective or did not comply with the contract you’ve not sold the goods after finding them to be defective, damaged or not compliant with the contract you’ll re-export or destroy the goods You cannot make a claim if you already knew the goods were damaged or defective when the contract for sale was made. You must submit form C&E1179 at least 48 hours before the goods are packed for re-export or destruction." So your saying u can claim on damaged goods but not on the 99% of normal undamaged goods. So looks like another brexit argument fails. ![]() Nothing to do with damage, read it again, ANY re export. Just take the loss, treat it as a school day, and move on. ![]() | |||
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"No, anyone who reexports reclaims the customs charge using the form I listed above. No net difference to us compared to last year. Lol so why would the Italians charge in the first place if they hand it back again, think it out before u answer. What, you mean like VAT? This is getting a bit silly tbh. C&E1179 ? That's the form you said...that's for rejected imports. Lol. Do you really not understand ? You expect europe to allow the uk import cheap junk from china or wherever and allow them to flood Europe at no cost?. Wakey wakey chris. No, it's the form used for re exporting, I gave you the link to click on. I keep saying level playing field, each European country pays ONE customs duty for a Chinese import, as do we. Simple stuff. Sounds like once again remainers once educated a bit more change their argument from 'its worse than we had before" to "ah but its not an improvement" wah wah Just lol C&E1179 This was the form u posted it's on your post further up for everyone to see. From the link I gave you, these are really very simple matters of reading comprehension: "You can claim repayment or remission on goods imported from outside the UK when: you’ve rejected the goods because at the time of declaring them to a customs procedure they’re: defective damaged before being cleared by customs not compliant with the terms of the contract you imported them under they’re the same goods from the original customs declaration you’ve not used any goods, other than the minimum necessary to establish they were defective or did not comply with the contract you’ve not sold the goods after finding them to be defective, damaged or not compliant with the contract you’ll re-export or destroy the goods You cannot make a claim if you already knew the goods were damaged or defective when the contract for sale was made. You must submit form C&E1179 at least 48 hours before the goods are packed for re-export or destruction." So your saying u can claim on damaged goods but not on the 99% of normal undamaged goods. So looks like another brexit argument fails. ![]() ![]() All about damaged goods C&E1179 (your link). Must try harder ![]() | |||
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" Must try harder ![]() Just like the billions of tons of red tape we've saved (according to u) we need to call out the "no customs duty" bullshit ![]() | |||
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