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"So all those righties who vowed to leave Twitter for parler after the trump suspension have been hit with bad news.. Firstly both google and apple removed the app from their App Store Now Amazon, who host the site, have given them notice of termination... which means if they don’t find a new host by 10pm Sunday the whole site goes offline! In good news... that was where Katie Hopkins fled after her Twitter ban.. so we can call this a bonus "I have never used Parler but I have seen some screen shots of it and it look appealing . It is good news that it is being shut down, all this ‘hate speech ‘ grifters will now be muted .  | |||
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"So all those righties who vowed to leave Twitter for parler after the trump suspension have been hit with bad news.. Firstly both google and apple removed the app from their App Store Now Amazon, who host the site, have given them notice of termination... which means if they don’t find a new host by 10pm Sunday the whole site goes offline! In good news... that was where Katie Hopkins fled after her Twitter ban.. so we can call this a bonus "If they are to stay online, they will have to move hosting to China or Russia. Oh the irony. | |||
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"... all this ‘hate speech ‘ grifters will now be muted . "sadly not. there are in excess of 6,600 forums, social media outlets and websites that promote right wing hate that urgently need to be taken down. there are many more that are mrginally less of a threat. a great many of them are run by employees of various governments around the world. | |||
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"... all this ‘hate speech ‘ grifters will now be muted .
sadly not. there are in excess of 6,600 forums, social media outlets and websites that promote right wing hate that urgently need to be taken down. there are many more that are mrginally less of a threat. a great many of them are run by employees of various governments around the world.
"Removing them from mainstream platforms will hinder their growth and spread of disinformation. That way, they're just talking among themselves. | |||
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"... all this ‘hate speech ‘ grifters will now be muted .
sadly not. there are in excess of 6,600 forums, social media outlets and websites that promote right wing hate that urgently need to be taken down. there are many more that are mrginally less of a threat. a great many of them are run by employees of various governments around the world.
Removing them from mainstream platforms will hinder their growth and spread of disinformation. That way, they're just talking among themselves."Exactly, Hopkins had 2 million followers on Twitter and made a living out of hate speech | |||
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"That way, they're just talking among themselves." that is the main problem | |||
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"Exactly, Hopkins had 2 million followers on Twitter and made a living out of hate speech " these people are capitalists. they will have no difficulty monetising their hate speech out of sight of the mainstream. | |||
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"Surely the worrying thing is the amount of people believing this shite. I was reading last night a trump supporter going on about killing the kids of the 'commie democrats' " Because nobody cares to do the legwork of research - grab a headline - spout some crap - go watch Eastenders. No responsibility. Feel EMPOWERED.  | |||
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"Exactly, Hopkins had 2 million followers on Twitter and made a living out of hate speech these people are capitalists. they will have no difficulty monetising their hate speech out of sight of the mainstream." It will be far more difficult, the smaller their audience the smaller their income | |||
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"Exactly, Hopkins had 2 million followers on Twitter and made a living out of hate speech these people are capitalists. they will have no difficulty monetising their hate speech out of sight of the mainstream. It will be far more difficult, the smaller their audience the smaller their income " The easier it will become to arrest them too. Smaller outlets become bigger targets. | |||
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"believing that is true is also part of the problem. governments are unable to stop contraband from entering prisons, they have less chance of controlling or monitoring the internet. much less the dark web." Yet. they do those things all of the time. | |||
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"So all those righties who vowed to leave Twitter for parler after the trump suspension have been hit with bad news.. Firstly both google and apple removed the app from their App Store Now Amazon, who host the site, have given them notice of termination... which means if they don’t find a new host by 10pm Sunday the whole site goes offline! In good news... that was where Katie Hopkins fled after her Twitter ban.. so we can call this a bonus "That's seriously good news, social media platforms taking social responsibility seriously at last, long way to go still hope they can take down the fake news channels fox and the rest of the hate mongers. | |||
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"believing that is true is also part of the problem. governments are unable to stop contraband from entering prisons, they have less chance of controlling or monitoring the internet. much less the dark web. Yet. they do those things all of the time." yet monetism from right wing hate speech on the internet increases | |||
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"believing that is true is also part of the problem. governments are unable to stop contraband from entering prisons, they have less chance of controlling or monitoring the internet. much less the dark web. Yet. they do those things all of the time. yet monetism from right wing hate speech on the internet increases" As is the natural evolution of anything. (sadly). | |||
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"believing that is true is also part of the problem. governments are unable to stop contraband from entering prisons, they have less chance of controlling or monitoring the internet. much less the dark web. Yet. they do those things all of the time. yet monetism from right wing hate speech on the internet increases" It won’t be increasing anymore, without a mainstream platform they will struggle, it will just be a group of nutters trying to grift of each other | |||
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"believing that is true is also part of the problem. governments are unable to stop contraband from entering prisons, they have less chance of controlling or monitoring the internet. much less the dark web. Yet. they do those things all of the time. yet monetism from right wing hate speech on the internet increases It won’t be increasing anymore, without a mainstream platform they will struggle, it will just be a group of nutters trying to grift of each other " I said above - there are bigger bullies of hate speech platforms than Trumpy. He will waste a year or so trying to be the BIG dog at the expense of his business - and already those aligned to him now are shifting their notions of whether it's time to ditch to a safer bet. | |||
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"It won’t be increasing anymore, without a mainstream platform they will struggle, it will just be a group of nutters trying to grift of each other " i disagree. there are plenty of domains and servers willing to host these sites in countries with lax laws governing data storage. Cloudfare finally removed 8chan from it's domains in august 2019 following the el paso massacre by a right wing assailant. they then moved to Epik who are considered the 'swiss bank of domains', where they have clearly flourished. the process will repeat it's cycle over and over on account of the vast sums of money involved. | |||
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"It won’t be increasing anymore, without a mainstream platform they will struggle, it will just be a group of nutters trying to grift of each other i disagree. there are plenty of domains and servers willing to host these sites in countries with lax laws governing data storage. Cloudfare finally removed 8chan from it's domains in august 2019 following the el paso massacre by a right wing assailant. they then moved to Epik who are considered the 'swiss bank of domains', where they have clearly flourished. the process will repeat it's cycle over and over on account of the vast sums of money involved." It takes a lot more time and effort for the ‘public’ to find these sites, yes they will continue to grift but it will be on a smaller scale, compared to Twitter these sites are tiny . | |||
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"It won’t be increasing anymore, without a mainstream platform they will struggle, it will just be a group of nutters trying to grift of each other i disagree. there are plenty of domains and servers willing to host these sites in countries with lax laws governing data storage. Cloudfare finally removed 8chan from it's domains in august 2019 following the el paso massacre by a right wing assailant. they then moved to Epik who are considered the 'swiss bank of domains', where they have clearly flourished. the process will repeat it's cycle over and over on account of the vast sums of money involved. It takes a lot more time and effort for the ‘public’ to find these sites, yes they will continue to grift but it will be on a smaller scale, compared to Twitter these sites are tiny . " Yep, they need a mainstream platform to spread their poison. The internet is mobile now, if google and apple says piss off and don't come back, life is much harder for you. | |||
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"It won’t be increasing anymore, without a mainstream platform they will struggle, it will just be a group of nutters trying to grift of each other i disagree. there are plenty of domains and servers willing to host these sites in countries with lax laws governing data storage. Cloudfare finally removed 8chan from it's domains in august 2019 following the el paso massacre by a right wing assailant. they then moved to Epik who are considered the 'swiss bank of domains', where they have clearly flourished. the process will repeat it's cycle over and over on account of the vast sums of money involved. It takes a lot more time and effort for the ‘public’ to find these sites, yes they will continue to grift but it will be on a smaller scale, compared to Twitter these sites are tiny . " the dissemination of the name and location on the internet of these thousands upon thousands of right wing sites is exponential according to the various groups who monitor the web for extremist activity. a new name will float to the top of the popularity pool in a similar manner to a turd in a cess tank. | |||
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"You're all being a bit naive here," Of course, we are. 
"Twitter thrives on hate speech from the left and right, most things controversial create a reaction/response, that's how they make their money. For example they didn't ban Trump before because of the numbers of followers he had, ie advertising targets. You are all being used to create wealth for the tech giants. I say you because I've never used Twitter or Facebook, never will and would happily see them banned " And when the potato is too hot, such as becoming a target of reworking Section 230 legislation - it's time to get rid, and quickly too.  | |||
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"It won’t be increasing anymore, without a mainstream platform they will struggle, it will just be a group of nutters trying to grift of each other i disagree. there are plenty of domains and servers willing to host these sites in countries with lax laws governing data storage. Cloudfare finally removed 8chan from it's domains in august 2019 following the el paso massacre by a right wing assailant. they then moved to Epik who are considered the 'swiss bank of domains', where they have clearly flourished. the process will repeat it's cycle over and over on account of the vast sums of money involved. It takes a lot more time and effort for the ‘public’ to find these sites, yes they will continue to grift but it will be on a smaller scale, compared to Twitter these sites are tiny . Yep, they need a mainstream platform to spread their poison. The internet is mobile now, if google and apple says piss off and don't come back, life is much harder for you." in many respects it is the opposite as the mainstream merely becomes oblivious to the activity. many people believe that it is no longer possible to download the parlar app to mobile phones since google, apple et al made their respective announcements. where as in reality there is a multitude of sites to download from. | |||
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"It won’t be increasing anymore, without a mainstream platform they will struggle, it will just be a group of nutters trying to grift of each other i disagree. there are plenty of domains and servers willing to host these sites in countries with lax laws governing data storage. Cloudfare finally removed 8chan from it's domains in august 2019 following the el paso massacre by a right wing assailant. they then moved to Epik who are considered the 'swiss bank of domains', where they have clearly flourished. the process will repeat it's cycle over and over on account of the vast sums of money involved. It takes a lot more time and effort for the ‘public’ to find these sites, yes they will continue to grift but it will be on a smaller scale, compared to Twitter these sites are tiny . Yep, they need a mainstream platform to spread their poison. The internet is mobile now, if google and apple says piss off and don't come back, life is much harder for you. in many respects it is the opposite as the mainstream merely becomes oblivious to the activity. many people believe that it is no longer possible to download the parlar app to mobile phones since google, apple et al made their respective announcements. where as in reality there is a multitude of sites to download from." Jailbreaking IOS devices and sideloading apps are minority pastimes. In addition they will need hosting. | |||
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"Jailbreaking IOS devices and sideloading apps are minority pastimes. In addition they will need hosting." you seem to have failed to grasp my point. also, i personally am ambivalent as i see dangers in both acting or not acting to combat the phenomenon of right wing hate. | |||
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"It won’t be increasing anymore, without a mainstream platform they will struggle, it will just be a group of nutters trying to grift of each other i disagree. there are plenty of domains and servers willing to host these sites in countries with lax laws governing data storage. Cloudfare finally removed 8chan from it's domains in august 2019 following the el paso massacre by a right wing assailant. they then moved to Epik who are considered the 'swiss bank of domains', where they have clearly flourished. the process will repeat it's cycle over and over on account of the vast sums of money involved. It takes a lot more time and effort for the ‘public’ to find these sites, yes they will continue to grift but it will be on a smaller scale, compared to Twitter these sites are tiny . Yep, they need a mainstream platform to spread their poison. The internet is mobile now, if google and apple says piss off and don't come back, life is much harder for you. " This for me is the important piece. There are always going to people talking about and spreading these stories and views. There were long before the Internet. However, if my auntie can't simply follow a link on FB to find it, then her, and many others like her, will return to (nearly) normal. Without that groundswell of interest, then the Express etc. Will also focus elsewhere. | |||
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"Rudy Giuliani says pro-Trump rioters attacking US Capitol building are ‘on the right side of history’ That will be his first nail and last nail . . . " Wow, he said that? He is unhinged | |||
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"Wow, he said that? He is unhinged " if your surprised then take a look at what Republican congresswoman Mary Miller spoke about in her speech prior to the coup d'etat this week. | |||
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"Wow, he said that? He is unhinged if your surprised then take a look at what Republican congresswoman Mary Miller spoke about in her speech prior to the coup d'etat this week. " That was before, to say they are on the ‘right side of history ‘ after the event is scary | |||
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"Wow, he said that? He is unhinged if your surprised then take a look at what Republican congresswoman Mary Miller spoke about in her speech prior to the coup d'etat this week. That was before, to say they are on the ‘right side of history ‘ after the event is scary " did you read what she said? | |||
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".... and whose speech she plagiarised in order to paraphrase it?" Yes, Hitler, absolutely disgusting. How can these people be allowed to say such things? | |||
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"How can these people be allowed to say such things? " mostly because they have the most money | |||
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"How can these people be allowed to say such things? mostly because they have the most money " Really, like who? | |||
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"Trump for one clearly" Only trump? Is that it? The 715th richest person in the world (if you believe Forbes) , what about the 714 people who are richer than him? | |||
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"Trump for one clearly Only trump? Is that it? The 715th richest person in the world (if you believe Forbes) , what about the 714 people who are richer than him? " you appear to want to micro debate the minutiae of the forbes list. i shall leave you to your devices. | |||
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"... all this ‘hate speech ‘ grifters will now be muted .
sadly not. there are in excess of 6,600 forums, social media outlets and websites that promote right wing hate that urgently need to be taken down. there are many more that are mrginally less of a threat. a great many of them are run by employees of various governments around the world.
Removing them from mainstream platforms will hinder their growth and spread of disinformation. That way, they're just talking among themselves."which is a terrible thing. Echo Chambers are partly the reason we are in this situation as it is | |||
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"Trump for one clearly Only trump? Is that it? The 715th richest person in the world (if you believe Forbes) , what about the 714 people who are richer than him? you appear to want to micro debate the minutiae of the forbes list. i shall leave you to your devices. " Not at all, I am just questioning your statement that ‘these people’ have the most money, they clearly don’t | |||
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"ok,i'll indulge you. who has the most money then?" No need, this is a pointless argument tbh. I am just glad the likes of Katie Hopkins will now struggle to make ‘as much’ money from grifting abs hate speech as they used to | |||
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"ok,i'll indulge you. who has the most money then? No need, this is a pointless argument tbh. I am just glad the likes of Katie Hopkins will now struggle to make ‘as much’ money from grifting abs hate speech as they used to " agreed, and that's partly what i was alluding to | |||
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"ok,i'll indulge you. who has the most money then? No need, this is a pointless argument tbh. I am just glad the likes of Katie Hopkins will now struggle to make ‘as much’ money from grifting abs hate speech as they used to agreed, and that's partly what i was alluding to" Yes, I know, I was being pedantic | |||
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"How can these people be allowed to say such things? mostly because they have the most money " I think the reason is that its become more socially accepted to be of a fascist or nationalist inclination. 15 years ago the likes of Nick Griffin and David Duke were on the extreme. Then it underwent a rebranding and got some new advocates in the form of Trump and Farage. We're moving hard to the right, democracy is under attack, populism and ethno-nationalism is on the rise. You can't just blame the leaders though, there is a willing audience as well. | |||
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"How can these people be allowed to say such things? mostly because they have the most money I think the reason is that its become more socially accepted to be of a fascist or nationalist inclination. 15 years ago the likes of Nick Griffin and David Duke were on the extreme. Then it underwent a rebranding and got some new advocates in the form of Trump and Farage. We're moving hard to the right, democracy is under attack, populism and ethno-nationalism is on the rise. You can't just blame the leaders though, there is a willing audience as well." I remember Griffin got absolutely piloted on qt A decade later farage, with views not a million miles away,was popular. That's how far the gmnt has moved us in a few years. | |||
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"How can these people be allowed to say such things? mostly because they have the most money I think the reason is that its become more socially accepted to be of a fascist or nationalist inclination. 15 years ago the likes of Nick Griffin and David Duke were on the extreme. Then it underwent a rebranding and got some new advocates in the form of Trump and Farage. We're moving hard to the right, democracy is under attack, populism and ethno-nationalism is on the rise. You can't just blame the leaders though, there is a willing audience as well." Give over. More accurate that the Overton Window has changed due vocal minorities on twitter and other social media which has caused a backlash. Stuff like the adpocalypse on youtube. The rise of critical race theory, the Gamergate stuff. Many more people calling for communist politics. Maoist struggle sessions enforced at places of work It's even worse in America as it's even more polarised It's almost like active measures is real and Yuri was right. Problem is alot of 'normies' think they know what's going on because the Guardian has told them so, without having an actual fucking clue what's actually going on. | |||
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"How can these people be allowed to say such things? mostly because they have the most money I think the reason is that its become more socially accepted to be of a fascist or nationalist inclination. 15 years ago the likes of Nick Griffin and David Duke were on the extreme. Then it underwent a rebranding and got some new advocates in the form of Trump and Farage. We're moving hard to the right, democracy is under attack, populism and ethno-nationalism is on the rise. You can't just blame the leaders though, there is a willing audience as well. Give over. More accurate that the Overton Window has changed due vocal minorities on twitter and other social media which has caused a backlash. Stuff like the adpocalypse on youtube. The rise of critical race theory, the Gamergate stuff. Many more people calling for communist politics. Maoist struggle sessions enforced at places of work It's even worse in America as it's even more polarised It's almost like active measures is real and Yuri was right. Problem is alot of 'normies' think they know what's going on because the Guardian has told them so, without having an actual fucking clue what's actually going on. " Maoist what? | |||
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"How can these people be allowed to say such things? mostly because they have the most money I think the reason is that its become more socially accepted to be of a fascist or nationalist inclination. 15 years ago the likes of Nick Griffin and David Duke were on the extreme. Then it underwent a rebranding and got some new advocates in the form of Trump and Farage. We're moving hard to the right, democracy is under attack, populism and ethno-nationalism is on the rise. You can't just blame the leaders though, there is a willing audience as well. Give over. More accurate that the Overton Window has changed due vocal minorities on twitter and other social media which has caused a backlash. Stuff like the adpocalypse on youtube. The rise of critical race theory, the Gamergate stuff. Many more people calling for communist politics. Maoist struggle sessions enforced at places of work It's even worse in America as it's even more polarised It's almost like active measures is real and Yuri was right. Problem is alot of 'normies' think they know what's going on because the Guardian has told them so, without having an actual fucking clue what's actually going on. " Do you have an example of people calling for communist policies so we can read up about it? | |||
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"How can these people be allowed to say such things? mostly because they have the most money I think the reason is that its become more socially accepted to be of a fascist or nationalist inclination. 15 years ago the likes of Nick Griffin and David Duke were on the extreme. Then it underwent a rebranding and got some new advocates in the form of Trump and Farage. We're moving hard to the right, democracy is under attack, populism and ethno-nationalism is on the rise. You can't just blame the leaders though, there is a willing audience as well. Give over. More accurate that the Overton Window has changed due vocal minorities on twitter and other social media which has caused a backlash. Stuff like the adpocalypse on youtube. The rise of critical race theory, the Gamergate stuff. Many more people calling for communist politics. Maoist struggle sessions enforced at places of work It's even worse in America as it's even more polarised It's almost like active measures is real and Yuri was right. Problem is alot of 'normies' think they know what's going on because the Guardian has told them so, without having an actual fucking clue what's actually going on. " Normies? This isn't 4 chan you know. So the rise in facism and populism is a backlash to manufactured online outrages. 4chan gave us Farage and Hopkins? | |||
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"How can these people be allowed to say such things? mostly because they have the most money I think the reason is that its become more socially accepted to be of a fascist or nationalist inclination. 15 years ago the likes of Nick Griffin and David Duke were on the extreme. Then it underwent a rebranding and got some new advocates in the form of Trump and Farage. We're moving hard to the right, democracy is under attack, populism and ethno-nationalism is on the rise. You can't just blame the leaders though, there is a willing audience as well. Give over. More accurate that the Overton Window has changed due vocal minorities on twitter and other social media which has caused a backlash. Stuff like the adpocalypse on youtube. The rise of critical race theory, the Gamergate stuff. Many more people calling for communist politics. Maoist struggle sessions enforced at places of work It's even worse in America as it's even more polarised It's almost like active measures is real and Yuri was right. Problem is alot of 'normies' think they know what's going on because the Guardian has told them so, without having an actual fucking clue what's actually going on. Do you have an example of people calling for communist policies so we can read up about it?" It's all over twitter. I'm not necessarily talking about actual Democrat party members, but these people are courted by the Democrats. Vast majority of Antifa are communists either that or they just love the colour red and think the hammer and sickle is just a cool logo. There is a reason why the antifaschistische aktion flag is red. | |||
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"How can these people be allowed to say such things? mostly because they have the most money I think the reason is that its become more socially accepted to be of a fascist or nationalist inclination. 15 years ago the likes of Nick Griffin and David Duke were on the extreme. Then it underwent a rebranding and got some new advocates in the form of Trump and Farage. We're moving hard to the right, democracy is under attack, populism and ethno-nationalism is on the rise. You can't just blame the leaders though, there is a willing audience as well. Give over. More accurate that the Overton Window has changed due vocal minorities on twitter and other social media which has caused a backlash. Stuff like the adpocalypse on youtube. The rise of critical race theory, the Gamergate stuff. Many more people calling for communist politics. Maoist struggle sessions enforced at places of work It's even worse in America as it's even more polarised It's almost like active measures is real and Yuri was right. Problem is alot of 'normies' think they know what's going on because the Guardian has told them so, without having an actual fucking clue what's actually going on. Do you have an example of people calling for communist policies so we can read up about it? It's all over twitter. I'm not necessarily talking about actual Democrat party members, but these people are courted by the Democrats. Vast majority of Antifa are communists either that or they just love the colour red and think the hammer and sickle is just a cool logo. There is a reason why the antifaschistische aktion flag is red. " You had me until you suggested that people who are anti fascist, are communists. Just calling everyone who isn't a fascist, a communist, just makes it a meaningless statement. I'll be honest, I'm not going to go to Twitter to try to find people calling for Communist policies. Because that seems like a pointless waste of time. Besides, what is wrong with discussing communist policies anyway? | |||
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"How can these people be allowed to say such things? mostly because they have the most money I think the reason is that its become more socially accepted to be of a fascist or nationalist inclination. 15 years ago the likes of Nick Griffin and David Duke were on the extreme. Then it underwent a rebranding and got some new advocates in the form of Trump and Farage. We're moving hard to the right, democracy is under attack, populism and ethno-nationalism is on the rise. You can't just blame the leaders though, there is a willing audience as well. Give over. More accurate that the Overton Window has changed due vocal minorities on twitter and other social media which has caused a backlash. Stuff like the adpocalypse on youtube. The rise of critical race theory, the Gamergate stuff. Many more people calling for communist politics. Maoist struggle sessions enforced at places of work It's even worse in America as it's even more polarised It's almost like active measures is real and Yuri was right. Problem is alot of 'normies' think they know what's going on because the Guardian has told them so, without having an actual fucking clue what's actually going on. Do you have an example of people calling for communist policies so we can read up about it? It's all over twitter. I'm not necessarily talking about actual Democrat party members, but these people are courted by the Democrats. Vast majority of Antifa are communists either that or they just love the colour red and think the hammer and sickle is just a cool logo. There is a reason why the antifaschistische aktion flag is red. You had me until you suggested that people who are anti fascist, are communists. Just calling everyone who isn't a fascist, a communist, just makes it a meaningless statement. I'll be honest, I'm not going to go to Twitter to try to find people calling for Communist policies. Because that seems like a pointless waste of time. Besides, what is wrong with discussing communist policies anyway? " Any sort of free healthcare is considered communist in America | |||
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"How can these people be allowed to say such things? mostly because they have the most money I think the reason is that its become more socially accepted to be of a fascist or nationalist inclination. 15 years ago the likes of Nick Griffin and David Duke were on the extreme. Then it underwent a rebranding and got some new advocates in the form of Trump and Farage. We're moving hard to the right, democracy is under attack, populism and ethno-nationalism is on the rise. You can't just blame the leaders though, there is a willing audience as well. Give over. More accurate that the Overton Window has changed due vocal minorities on twitter and other social media which has caused a backlash. Stuff like the adpocalypse on youtube. The rise of critical race theory, the Gamergate stuff. Many more people calling for communist politics. Maoist struggle sessions enforced at places of work It's even worse in America as it's even more polarised It's almost like active measures is real and Yuri was right. Problem is alot of 'normies' think they know what's going on because the Guardian has told them so, without having an actual fucking clue what's actually going on. Do you have an example of people calling for communist policies so we can read up about it? It's all over twitter. I'm not necessarily talking about actual Democrat party members, but these people are courted by the Democrats. Vast majority of Antifa are communists either that or they just love the colour red and think the hammer and sickle is just a cool logo. There is a reason why the antifaschistische aktion flag is red. " So the attempt to overturn the election was on account of something a normie said on twitter? | |||
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"How can these people be allowed to say such things? mostly because they have the most money I think the reason is that its become more socially accepted to be of a fascist or nationalist inclination. 15 years ago the likes of Nick Griffin and David Duke were on the extreme. Then it underwent a rebranding and got some new advocates in the form of Trump and Farage. We're moving hard to the right, democracy is under attack, populism and ethno-nationalism is on the rise. You can't just blame the leaders though, there is a willing audience as well. Give over. More accurate that the Overton Window has changed due vocal minorities on twitter and other social media which has caused a backlash. Stuff like the adpocalypse on youtube. The rise of critical race theory, the Gamergate stuff. Many more people calling for communist politics. Maoist struggle sessions enforced at places of work It's even worse in America as it's even more polarised It's almost like active measures is real and Yuri was right. Problem is alot of 'normies' think they know what's going on because the Guardian has told them so, without having an actual fucking clue what's actually going on. Do you have an example of people calling for communist policies so we can read up about it? It's all over twitter. I'm not necessarily talking about actual Democrat party members, but these people are courted by the Democrats. Vast majority of Antifa are communists either that or they just love the colour red and think the hammer and sickle is just a cool logo. There is a reason why the antifaschistische aktion flag is red. You had me until you suggested that people who are anti fascist, are communists. Just calling everyone who isn't a fascist, a communist, just makes it a meaningless statement. I'll be honest, I'm not going to go to Twitter to try to find people calling for Communist policies. Because that seems like a pointless waste of time. Besides, what is wrong with discussing communist policies anyway? " Well I'm sorry but you dont know your history then. Antifa was originally started by the KPD in Germany in 1932. The KPD where the communist party of germany Nothing necessarily wrong with discussing it, but advocating an ideology that has ended in the death of millions over the world from starvation and persecution is just as bad as advocating for Nazism or general authoritarianism. Or have we suddenly forgot about the atrocities of the Soviet Union, CCP and Khmer Rouge. | |||
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"How can these people be allowed to say such things? mostly because they have the most money I think the reason is that its become more socially accepted to be of a fascist or nationalist inclination. 15 years ago the likes of Nick Griffin and David Duke were on the extreme. Then it underwent a rebranding and got some new advocates in the form of Trump and Farage. We're moving hard to the right, democracy is under attack, populism and ethno-nationalism is on the rise. You can't just blame the leaders though, there is a willing audience as well. Give over. More accurate that the Overton Window has changed due vocal minorities on twitter and other social media which has caused a backlash. Stuff like the adpocalypse on youtube. The rise of critical race theory, the Gamergate stuff. Many more people calling for communist politics. Maoist struggle sessions enforced at places of work It's even worse in America as it's even more polarised It's almost like active measures is real and Yuri was right. Problem is alot of 'normies' think they know what's going on because the Guardian has told them so, without having an actual fucking clue what's actually going on. Do you have an example of people calling for communist policies so we can read up about it? It's all over twitter. I'm not necessarily talking about actual Democrat party members, but these people are courted by the Democrats. Vast majority of Antifa are communists either that or they just love the colour red and think the hammer and sickle is just a cool logo. There is a reason why the antifaschistische aktion flag is red. You had me until you suggested that people who are anti fascist, are communists. Just calling everyone who isn't a fascist, a communist, just makes it a meaningless statement. I'll be honest, I'm not going to go to Twitter to try to find people calling for Communist policies. Because that seems like a pointless waste of time. Besides, what is wrong with discussing communist policies anyway? Well I'm sorry but you dont know your history then. Antifa was originally started by the KPD in Germany in 1932. The KPD where the communist party of germany Nothing necessarily wrong with discussing it, but advocating an ideology that has ended in the death of millions over the world from starvation and persecution is just as bad as advocating for Nazism or general authoritarianism. Or have we suddenly forgot about the atrocities of the Soviet Union, CCP and Khmer Rouge. " It's silly to write off a policy because it came from a regime that was awful. Should we rip up all our motorways and drive everywhere on A roads because these kind of roads were a policy of nazi Germany? Antifa is just short for "anti fascist". Nothing more, nothing less. | |||
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"You had me until you suggested that people who are anti fascist, are communists. Just calling everyone who isn't a fascist, a communist, just makes it a meaningless statement. " Almost like how everybody who says they are right wing are suddenly branded Nazi's and Facists then... People who are hardcore Antifa are communists though, thats the truth. | |||
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"You had me until you suggested that people who are anti fascist, are communists. Just calling everyone who isn't a fascist, a communist, just makes it a meaningless statement. Almost like how everybody who says they are right wing are suddenly branded Nazi's and Facists then... People who are hardcore Antifa are communists though, thats the truth. " You're half right. Calling anyone on the right wing a Nazi is a nonsense. Rather like calling hardcore non-fascists communists. Silly. | |||
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"How can these people be allowed to say such things? mostly because they have the most money I think the reason is that its become more socially accepted to be of a fascist or nationalist inclination. 15 years ago the likes of Nick Griffin and David Duke were on the extreme. Then it underwent a rebranding and got some new advocates in the form of Trump and Farage. We're moving hard to the right, democracy is under attack, populism and ethno-nationalism is on the rise. You can't just blame the leaders though, there is a willing audience as well. Give over. More accurate that the Overton Window has changed due vocal minorities on twitter and other social media which has caused a backlash. Stuff like the adpocalypse on youtube. The rise of critical race theory, the Gamergate stuff. Many more people calling for communist politics. Maoist struggle sessions enforced at places of work It's even worse in America as it's even more polarised It's almost like active measures is real and Yuri was right. Problem is alot of 'normies' think they know what's going on because the Guardian has told them so, without having an actual fucking clue what's actually going on. Do you have an example of people calling for communist policies so we can read up about it? It's all over twitter. I'm not necessarily talking about actual Democrat party members, but these people are courted by the Democrats. Vast majority of Antifa are communists either that or they just love the colour red and think the hammer and sickle is just a cool logo. There is a reason why the antifaschistische aktion flag is red. You had me until you suggested that people who are anti fascist, are communists. Just calling everyone who isn't a fascist, a communist, just makes it a meaningless statement. I'll be honest, I'm not going to go to Twitter to try to find people calling for Communist policies. Because that seems like a pointless waste of time. Besides, what is wrong with discussing communist policies anyway? Well I'm sorry but you dont know your history then. Antifa was originally started by the KPD in Germany in 1932. The KPD where the communist party of germany Nothing necessarily wrong with discussing it, but advocating an ideology that has ended in the death of millions over the world from starvation and persecution is just as bad as advocating for Nazism or general authoritarianism. Or have we suddenly forgot about the atrocities of the Soviet Union, CCP and Khmer Rouge. " Just aswell as American foreign policy has been so peaceful | |||
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"Fab will be next they are calling for a cull of Westminster in the virus thread. "No they arent..they want the regions suspended And boris and princess nut nuts to run a police state. Standard. | |||
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"Fab will be next they are calling for a cull of Westminster in the virus thread.
No they arent..they want the regions suspended
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Standard."The words cull Westminster are being used. Got to be careful these days in case stuff get taken out of context. | |||
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"Fab will be next they are calling for a cull of Westminster in the virus thread.
No they arent..they want the regions suspended
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"news just in ..... "... it has been reported overnight that Stripe will halt processing Trump campaign donations because of encouraged violence, meaning that the shutdown of the president’s online activities now has a direct impact on the campaign’s bottom line, rather than just limiting the reach of his voice."" O dear, what a shame | |||
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"A house of cards, corporate America will turn it's back on all things trump.. He might be in big trouble if he's not scammed his acolytes enough since November when Deutsche Bank and others call the loans in.. Just think, Trump tower renamed.. "Black Live Matter Tower .... has a ring to it | |||
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"Following on from Parler. After months of stoking anger about alleged election fraud, one of America’s largest talk-radio companies has decided on an abrupt change of direction. Cumulus Media, which employs some of the most popular right-leaning talk-radio hosts in the United States, has told its on-air personalities to stop suggesting that the election was stolen from President Trump — or else face termination.- Washington post" Never has the phrase..rats leaving a sinking ship..been so apt. | |||
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"Further again to Parler, theres a developing story that due to a security lapse parler user data is being downloaded." That will be interesting to several parties.. | |||
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"Further again to Parler, theres a developing story that due to a security lapse parler user data is being downloaded." Probably by the FBI lol | |||
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"Business after business is dumping too . . . " The PGA cancellation will hurt his fragile ego, needs to be loved and lauded.. The whole brand and anyone associated will be persona non Grata after last week.. | |||
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"Business after business is dumping too . . . The PGA cancellation will hurt his fragile ego, needs to be loved and lauded.. The whole brand and anyone associated will be persona non Grata after last week.." I find the whole thing Bizarre - by any standard even those as low as trumps (dropping the Capital from his name now too lol.) | |||
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"Business after business is dumping too . . . The PGA cancellation will hurt his fragile ego, needs to be loved and lauded.. The whole brand and anyone associated will be persona non Grata after last week.." The R & A have also announced that Turnberry won’t be considered as a host for The Open | |||
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"Further again to Parler, theres a developing story that due to a security lapse parler user data is being downloaded. That will be interesting to several parties.." They were using a company called Twilio to provide authentication services. Twilio had a press release saying they were no longer providing services A B & C to them. When you say what sort of security thats used, it makes it easier to break in. | |||
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"Business after business is dumping too . . . The PGA cancellation will hurt his fragile ego, needs to be loved and lauded.. The whole brand and anyone associated will be persona non Grata after last week.. I find the whole thing Bizarre - by any standard even those as low as trumps (dropping the Capital from his name now too lol.)" I don't think he even considered that inciting people to fight etc in relation to where he sent them might lead to what it did but a nation that has sacrificed the blood of its men and women in the various global campaigns to preserve and allow the freedoms of others to have their type of democracy, and for the whole world to suddenly see this mob acting in the way they have for decades opposed and derided was too far.. | |||
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"Just a passing - and I hope it passes - thought . . . 'trump the Movie' Sasha Baron Cohen or Martin Sheen lol? "Hmm.. A red faced faced chubby man with bad hair..
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"Further again to Parler, theres a developing story that due to a security lapse parler user data is being downloaded. That will be interesting to several parties.. They were using a company called Twilio to provide authentication services. Twilio had a press release saying they were no longer providing services A B & C to them. When you say what sort of security thats used, it makes it easier to break in." Some hackers noticed the statement and downloaded parlar’s entire data files..... meaning that any post, comments that was made on that site could now be past onto the fbi, which actually they are threatening to do.... And a lot of people are now extremely worried........ | |||
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"Just a passing - and I hope it passes - thought . . . 'trump the Movie' Sasha Baron Cohen or Martin Sheen lol? "Hulk Hogan Danny Devito | |||
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"Further again to Parler, theres a developing story that due to a security lapse parler user data is being downloaded. That will be interesting to several parties.. They were using a company called Twilio to provide authentication services. Twilio had a press release saying they were no longer providing services A B & C to them. When you say what sort of security thats used, it makes it easier to break in. Some hackers noticed the statement and downloaded parlar’s entire data files..... meaning that any post, comments that was made on that site could now be past onto the fbi, which actually they are threatening to do.... And a lot of people are now extremely worried........" There's also some suggestion that deleted posts weren't actually deleted so....... | |||
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"Further again to Parler, theres a developing story that due to a security lapse parler user data is being downloaded. That will be interesting to several parties.. They were using a company called Twilio to provide authentication services. Twilio had a press release saying they were no longer providing services A B & C to them. When you say what sort of security thats used, it makes it easier to break in. Some hackers noticed the statement and downloaded parlar’s entire data files..... meaning that any post, comments that was made on that site could now be past onto the fbi, which actually they are threatening to do.... And a lot of people are now extremely worried........ There's also some suggestion that deleted posts weren't actually deleted so......." Apparently the deletion mechanism for Parler was to put a label on the information to the effect of "please don't look at me"
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"Further again to Parler, theres a developing story that due to a security lapse parler user data is being downloaded. That will be interesting to several parties.. They were using a company called Twilio to provide authentication services. Twilio had a press release saying they were no longer providing services A B & C to them. When you say what sort of security thats used, it makes it easier to break in. Some hackers noticed the statement and downloaded parlar’s entire data files..... meaning that any post, comments that was made on that site could now be past onto the fbi, which actually they are threatening to do.... And a lot of people are now extremely worried........ There's also some suggestion that deleted posts weren't actually deleted so....... Apparently the deletion mechanism for Parler was to put a label on the information to the effect of "please don't look at me"
I wonder which pieces of information the hackers will be looking at first?"Well two things will be of interest, one will be all the posts with embedded geolocation from 6th Jan. The other was a discussion thread where people 'confessed/boasted' about what they had done. Many tried after to delete the evidence after the shit hit the fan but alas....... I think the not actually deleting data thing may be a GDPR violation as well. | |||
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"Just a passing - and I hope it passes - thought . . . 'trump the Movie' Sasha Baron Cohen or Martin Sheen lol?
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Danny Devito"If he was still alive it would have been John Matuszak (the guy who played sloth in the goonies) | |||
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"And now Youtube have banned him. The world is becoming a very small place. for his big ego." Deutsche Bank are now refusing to do business with him, what a shame | |||
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"And now Youtube have banned him. The world is becoming a very small place. for his big ego." The humble water filter salesman Alex Jones will have him on. | |||
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"And now Youtube have banned him. The world is becoming a very small place. for his big ego. Deutsche Bank are now refusing to do business with him, what a shame "I can tell you would of joined the Stazi in East Germany or NKVD in USSR tbh | |||
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"And now Youtube have banned him. The world is becoming a very small place. for his big ego. Deutsche Bank are now refusing to do business with him, what a shame
I can tell you would of joined the Stazi in East Germany or NKVD in USSR tbh"As opposed to the proud boys or the kkk ? | |||
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"And now Youtube have banned him. The world is becoming a very small place. for his big ego. Deutsche Bank are now refusing to do business with him, what a shame
I can tell you would of joined the Stazi in East Germany or NKVD in USSR tbh
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