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"On the first day of Brexit I/we experienced two direct effects of the effects of Brexit. 1) Received an email from Licorea.com advising that they were now stopping all shipments to the U.K. forthwith. I buy Captain Morgan Black Label from them as it cannot be purchased here in the U.K. " Yes you can. Quick search showed at least 7 outlets in the UK.  | |||
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"On the first day of Brexit I/we experienced two direct effects of the effects of Brexit. 1) Received an email from Licorea.com advising that they were now stopping all shipments to the U.K. forthwith. I buy Captain Morgan Black Label from them as it cannot be purchased here in the U.K. 2) Mrs H was browsing one of her Designer label websites and decided to buy some ear rings. This Designer house is based in Paris and at checkout the following message popped up: “We are no longer shipping to your country.” I guess that things may change with time, but I have to say that this was quite a surprise. If this has happened in just this small way to us on day 1, I am not sure how valid the governments claim can be that their EU deal is worth the same £650 billion a year as it was whilst we were in the EU. " Sorry not Black Label - Black Spiced | |||
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"On the first day of Brexit I/we experienced two direct effects of the effects of Brexit. 1) Received an email from Licorea.com advising that they were now stopping all shipments to the U.K. forthwith. I buy Captain Morgan Black Label from them as it cannot be purchased here in the U.K. Yes you can. Quick search showed at least 7 outlets in the UK. "My bad - Black Spiced - Not Black Label | |||
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"Cost me sales already. The brexit pig needs to be put dow sooner rather than later." ? I don't understand what the brexit pig needs to be put Dow means? | |||
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"On the first day of Brexit I/we experienced two direct effects of the effects of Brexit. 1) Received an email from Licorea.com advising that they were now stopping all shipments to the U.K. forthwith. I buy Captain Morgan Black Label from them as it cannot be purchased here in the U.K. 2) Mrs H was browsing one of her Designer label websites and decided to buy some ear rings. This Designer house is based in Paris and at checkout the following message popped up: “We are no longer shipping to your country.” I guess that things may change with time, but I have to say that this was quite a surprise. If this has happened in just this small way to us on day 1, I am not sure how valid the governments claim can be that their EU deal is worth the same £650 billion a year as it was whilst we were in the EU. " So 2 EU companies have lost sales then | |||
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"On the first day of Brexit I/we experienced two direct effects of the effects of Brexit. 1) Received an email from Licorea.com advising that they were now stopping all shipments to the U.K. forthwith. I buy Captain Morgan Black Label from them as it cannot be purchased here in the U.K. 2) Mrs H was browsing one of her Designer label websites and decided to buy some ear rings. This Designer house is based in Paris and at checkout the following message popped up: “We are no longer shipping to your country.” I guess that things may change with time, but I have to say that this was quite a surprise. If this has happened in just this small way to us on day 1, I am not sure how valid the governments claim can be that their EU deal is worth the same £650 billion a year as it was whilst we were in the EU. So 2 EU companies have lost sales then" And 2 uk residents had reduced purchasing options. That sounds 'global ' to me | |||
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"On the first day of Brexit I/we experienced two direct effects of the effects of Brexit. 1) Received an email from Licorea.com advising that they were now stopping all shipments to the U.K. forthwith. I buy Captain Morgan Black Label from them as it cannot be purchased here in the U.K. Yes you can. Quick search showed at least 7 outlets in the UK.
My bad - Black Spiced - Not Black Label"I can find that too. | |||
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"On the first day of Brexit I/we experienced two direct effects of the effects of Brexit. 1) Received an email from Licorea.com advising that they were now stopping all shipments to the U.K. forthwith. I buy Captain Morgan Black Label from them as it cannot be purchased here in the U.K. Yes you can. Quick search showed at least 7 outlets in the UK.
My bad - Black Spiced - Not Black Label
I can find that too. "how do these ppl cop with these struggles no black spice no earrings bastard brexit it’s ruined ppls lives already lol | |||
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"Aw so do I that really would be to much to cope with pmsl" It's funny all these Brexiteers making light of these things, notice you're not really touching on the guy who is loosing sales from it. It's funnier considering the 3 Brexit benefits posts a couple of weeks ago where in 3 post you were able to no benefits from what I could see any less trivial than what has been raised above. | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20."" Maybe VAT if not customs fees | |||
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"Aw so do I that really would be to much to cope with pmsl It's funny all these Brexiteers making light of these things, notice you're not really touching on the guy who is loosing sales from it. It's funnier considering the 3 Brexit benefits posts a couple of weeks ago where in 3 post you were able to no benefits from what I could see any less trivial than what has been raised above. " Whatever benefits there may or not be... Kind of irrelevant now isn't it? The votes been had, the deals been done and its up to us to get on with it... Or keep moaning about it... Or very possibly both. Stronger together | |||
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"On the first day of Brexit I/we experienced two direct effects of the effects of Brexit. 1) Received an email from Licorea.com advising that they were now stopping all shipments to the U.K. forthwith. I buy Captain Morgan Black Label from them as it cannot be purchased here in the U.K. 2) Mrs H was browsing one of her Designer label websites and decided to buy some ear rings. This Designer house is based in Paris and at checkout the following message popped up: “We are no longer shipping to your country.” I guess that things may change with time, but I have to say that this was quite a surprise. If this has happened in just this small way to us on day 1, I am not sure how valid the governments claim can be that their EU deal is worth the same £650 billion a year as it was whilst we were in the EU. So 2 EU companies have lost sales then And 2 uk residents had reduced purchasing options. That sounds 'global ' to me" The options were reduced as the vendors have chosen not to ship to the UK. But the goods are still available from a UK source, which is actually quite good for UK Ltd. Which may be a good thing. Certainly for the planet. Why ship it further than is needed? | |||
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"On the first day of Brexit I/we experienced two direct effects of the effects of Brexit. 1) Received an email from Licorea.com advising that they were now stopping all shipments to the U.K. forthwith. I buy Captain Morgan Black Label from them as it cannot be purchased here in the U.K. 2) Mrs H was browsing one of her Designer label websites and decided to buy some ear rings. This Designer house is based in Paris and at checkout the following message popped up: “We are no longer shipping to your country.” I guess that things may change with time, but I have to say that this was quite a surprise. If this has happened in just this small way to us on day 1, I am not sure how valid the governments claim can be that their EU deal is worth the same £650 billion a year as it was whilst we were in the EU. So 2 EU companies have lost sales then And 2 uk residents had reduced purchasing options. That sounds 'global ' to me The options were reduced as the vendors have chosen not to ship to the UK. But the goods are still available from a UK source, which is actually quite good for UK Ltd. Which may be a good thing. Certainly for the planet. Why ship it further than is needed? " . So they have a reduced choice in where to buy? | |||
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"Aw so do I that really would be to much to cope with pmsl It's funny all these Brexiteers making light of these things, notice you're not really touching on the guy who is loosing sales from it. It's funnier considering the 3 Brexit benefits posts a couple of weeks ago where in 3 post you were able to no benefits from what I could see any less trivial than what has been raised above. Whatever benefits there may or not be... Kind of irrelevant now isn't it? The votes been had, the deals been done and its up to us to get on with it... Or keep moaning about it... Or very possibly both. Stronger together " Stronger together, and in the EU. We can't get on with things if we can even agree that Brexit is the problem we need to try to mitigate against. | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees" Huh? We already pay VAT 
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add."15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21% | |||
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". The options were reduced as the vendors have chosen not to ship to the UK. But the goods are still available from a UK source, which is actually quite good for UK Ltd. Which may be a good thing. Certainly for the planet. Why ship it further than is needed? . So they have a reduced choice in where to buy?" If companies in the EU trading bloc decide not to trade with the UK that really is their loss - and a bottom-line loss at that. Shareholding companies simply won't be able to get that past their shareholders for very long. Plus we already have a tariff free deal in place that works in both directions. If someone in this country hasn't organised their paperwork that isn't anyones fault but their own as it's been promoted by DTI for more than two years. | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add."Any VAT paid in EU stays in the EU, UK will want their own VAT. I believe the system should be you buy VAT free from EU, due to exporting, then VAT is raised in UK. | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%"MAny EU countries are the same or more. Easy to find. | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
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15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%"UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?) A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products. | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%"That’s nonsense. The VAT rate when first introduced was 10%, it then fluctuated between 8 %, 15% and 17.5% until 2011 when it was raised to 20%. Check the rates of the other EU countries, the UK had one of the lowest rates and highest registration thresholds. | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%"Not true many differing rates across EU the stipulation is basic is 15% and then it can be reduced or increased many countries charge 20-21% | |||
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"Aw so do I that really would be to much to cope with pmsl It's funny all these Brexiteers making light of these things, notice you're not really touching on the guy who is loosing sales from it. It's funnier considering the 3 Brexit benefits posts a couple of weeks ago where in 3 post you were able to no benefits from what I could see any less trivial than what has been raised above. Whatever benefits there may or not be... Kind of irrelevant now isn't it? The votes been had, the deals been done and its up to us to get on with it... Or keep moaning about it... Or very possibly both. Stronger together Stronger together, and in the EU. We can't get on with things if we can even agree that Brexit is the problem we need to try to mitigate against." you mean if leavers agree with you ye ? | |||
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"Aw so do I that really would be to much to cope with pmsl It's funny all these Brexiteers making light of these things, notice you're not really touching on the guy who is loosing sales from it. It's funnier considering the 3 Brexit benefits posts a couple of weeks ago where in 3 post you were able to no benefits from what I could see any less trivial than what has been raised above. Whatever benefits there may or not be... Kind of irrelevant now isn't it? The votes been had, the deals been done and its up to us to get on with it... Or keep moaning about it... Or very possibly both. Stronger together Stronger together, and in the EU. We can't get on with things if we can even agree that Brexit is the problem we need to try to mitigate against.you mean if leavers agree with you ye ?" Doesn't have anything to do with who agrees with me. People are still cheering on brexit, what hope is there to get people to "come together"? | |||
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"Aw so do I that really would be to much to cope with pmsl It's funny all these Brexiteers making light of these things, notice you're not really touching on the guy who is loosing sales from it. It's funnier considering the 3 Brexit benefits posts a couple of weeks ago where in 3 post you were able to no benefits from what I could see any less trivial than what has been raised above. Whatever benefits there may or not be... Kind of irrelevant now isn't it? The votes been had, the deals been done and its up to us to get on with it... Or keep moaning about it... Or very possibly both. Stronger together Stronger together, and in the EU. We can't get on with things if we can even agree that Brexit is the problem we need to try to mitigate against.you mean if leavers agree with you ye ? Doesn't have anything to do with who agrees with me. People are still cheering on brexit, what hope is there to get people to "come together"?" It's been 3 days - what do you expect? Gerry Marsden died last evening - I'll be sadi about that for at least a month or more. But really. People are never very much together on most things. But we don't have to be rude to each to be so. | |||
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"I'm seeing VAT rates across the EU are quite varied too. Lowest rate is 17 and highest 27. I think maybe it's being confused with the minimum rate if 15. The UK at 20 is the same as others including France" It's also not just the rate but at what rate the reduced rates and what items are set at. We have many many items on reduced rate - where many other countries have very much fewer items on reduced rate. | |||
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"Aw so do I that really would be to much to cope with pmsl It's funny all these Brexiteers making light of these things, notice you're not really touching on the guy who is loosing sales from it. It's funnier considering the 3 Brexit benefits posts a couple of weeks ago where in 3 post you were able to no benefits from what I could see any less trivial than what has been raised above. Whatever benefits there may or not be... Kind of irrelevant now isn't it? The votes been had, the deals been done and its up to us to get on with it... Or keep moaning about it... Or very possibly both. Stronger together Stronger together, and in the EU. We can't get on with things if we can even agree that Brexit is the problem we need to try to mitigate against.you mean if leavers agree with you ye ? Doesn't have anything to do with who agrees with me. People are still cheering on brexit, what hope is there to get people to "come together"?" mate howay like you wamt the ppl to come together have you read yr posts over the last few months your still issued that we’ve left and have no interest in comeing together atleast be honest bud | |||
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"Aw so do I that really would be to much to cope with pmsl It's funny all these Brexiteers making light of these things, notice you're not really touching on the guy who is loosing sales from it. It's funnier considering the 3 Brexit benefits posts a couple of weeks ago where in 3 post you were able to no benefits from what I could see any less trivial than what has been raised above. Whatever benefits there may or not be... Kind of irrelevant now isn't it? The votes been had, the deals been done and its up to us to get on with it... Or keep moaning about it... Or very possibly both. Stronger together Stronger together, and in the EU. We can't get on with things if we can even agree that Brexit is the problem we need to try to mitigate against.you mean if leavers agree with you ye ? Doesn't have anything to do with who agrees with me. People are still cheering on brexit, what hope is there to get people to "come together"? It's been 3 days - what do you expect? Gerry Marsden died last evening - I'll be sadi about that for at least a month or more. But really. People are never very much together on most things. But we don't have to be rude to each to be so. " You're right. We don't have to be rude. The problem as many people see it is, it's the haves Vs the have nots. The "haves" at the top of the pile convinced enough people to vote to give them more power and wealth. And shout at anyone who speaks up. Keeping us fight amongst ourselves keeps us from doing anything positive. | |||
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"Aw so do I that really would be to much to cope with pmsl It's funny all these Brexiteers making light of these things, notice you're not really touching on the guy who is loosing sales from it. It's funnier considering the 3 Brexit benefits posts a couple of weeks ago where in 3 post you were able to no benefits from what I could see any less trivial than what has been raised above. Whatever benefits there may or not be... Kind of irrelevant now isn't it? The votes been had, the deals been done and its up to us to get on with it... Or keep moaning about it... Or very possibly both. Stronger together Stronger together, and in the EU. We can't get on with things if we can even agree that Brexit is the problem we need to try to mitigate against.you mean if leavers agree with you ye ? Doesn't have anything to do with who agrees with me. People are still cheering on brexit, what hope is there to get people to "come together"?" The point is I think the reality of Brexit is irrelevant, it makes some people feel better. They're walking a little taller and feeling better about themselves. | |||
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"Aw so do I that really would be to much to cope with pmsl It's funny all these Brexiteers making light of these things, notice you're not really touching on the guy who is loosing sales from it. It's funnier considering the 3 Brexit benefits posts a couple of weeks ago where in 3 post you were able to no benefits from what I could see any less trivial than what has been raised above. Whatever benefits there may or not be... Kind of irrelevant now isn't it? The votes been had, the deals been done and its up to us to get on with it... Or keep moaning about it... Or very possibly both. Stronger together Stronger together, and in the EU. We can't get on with things if we can even agree that Brexit is the problem we need to try to mitigate against.you mean if leavers agree with you ye ? Doesn't have anything to do with who agrees with me. People are still cheering on brexit, what hope is there to get people to "come together"?mate howay like you wamt the ppl to come together have you read yr posts over the last few months your still issued that we’ve left and have no interest in comeing together atleast be honest bud " What would you have me do? Should people start to believe in brexit? There's still no evidence that it's anything except a power and wealth grab for those at the top. Should we just concede we're fucked and give up? | |||
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" Should we just concede we're fucked and give up?" You are what you think you are. NLP101 | |||
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"On the first day of Brexit I/we experienced two direct effects of the effects of Brexit. 1) Received an email from Licorea.com advising that they were now stopping all shipments to the U.K. forthwith. I buy Captain Morgan Black Label from them as it cannot be purchased here in the U.K. Yes you can. Quick search showed at least 7 outlets in the UK.
My bad - Black Spiced - Not Black Label
I can find that too. "The post was simply to highlight two issues that happened to us on day 1 of Brexit. For the last ten years that I have been drinking it, no U.K. supplier has been able to deliver Capt Morgan Black Spiced Rum, so I bought it from licorea.com - by the case. If it now starts to appear in Asda and Tesco - great. But that is not what the sentiment of the thread is about - it was simply about “what changed on day 1”. As for Mrs H not being able to get her ear rings delivered from givenchy.com - that was just another Brexit “experience.” I did also forget to mention that other European suppliers like (for example) Brooks (running gear), Gucci and Balenciaga have all now amended their returns a process so that you now have to include three customs declarations in a clear envelope - no big deal I suppose, other than - for what ultimate purpose is this extra hassle? | |||
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" Should we just concede we're fucked and give up? You are what you think you are. NLP101" Dunno what that means. What's the answer then. Seemed like only a minority of leavers want the remainers deported. Should we just give up that there's any hope of a fairer society with less of a gap between the rich and poor? | |||
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"I'm seeing VAT rates across the EU are quite varied too. Lowest rate is 17 and highest 27. I think maybe it's being confused with the minimum rate if 15. The UK at 20 is the same as others including France It's also not just the rate but at what rate the reduced rates and what items are set at. We have many many items on reduced rate - where many other countries have very much fewer items on reduced rate. " Thank you. I was not sure what the reduced rates referred to. Seems quite competitive | |||
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"Aw so do I that really would be to much to cope with pmsl It's funny all these Brexiteers making light of these things, notice you're not really touching on the guy who is loosing sales from it. It's funnier considering the 3 Brexit benefits posts a couple of weeks ago where in 3 post you were able to no benefits from what I could see any less trivial than what has been raised above. Whatever benefits there may or not be... Kind of irrelevant now isn't it? The votes been had, the deals been done and its up to us to get on with it... Or keep moaning about it... Or very possibly both. Stronger together Stronger together, and in the EU. We can't get on with things if we can even agree that Brexit is the problem we need to try to mitigate against.you mean if leavers agree with you ye ? Doesn't have anything to do with who agrees with me. People are still cheering on brexit, what hope is there to get people to "come together"?mate howay like you wamt the ppl to come together have you read yr posts over the last few months your still issued that we’ve left and have no interest in comeing together atleast be honest bud What would you have me do? Should people start to believe in brexit? There's still no evidence that it's anything except a power and wealth grab for those at the top. Should we just concede we're fucked and give up?" I'm intrigued how you think it's all a power and wealth grab by those at the top. Given that is was mostly the so called "working class" who voted for it...and the Liberal elite who thought we would never be stupid enough to vote to leave. Brexit is many things but most significantly its done, it was done over 2 years ago. It's democracy at work and now we just have to get on and make the best of it. And we will as we have no other choice. | |||
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"Aw so do I that really would be to much to cope with pmsl It's funny all these Brexiteers making light of these things, notice you're not really touching on the guy who is loosing sales from it. It's funnier considering the 3 Brexit benefits posts a couple of weeks ago where in 3 post you were able to no benefits from what I could see any less trivial than what has been raised above. Whatever benefits there may or not be... Kind of irrelevant now isn't it? The votes been had, the deals been done and its up to us to get on with it... Or keep moaning about it... Or very possibly both. Stronger together Stronger together, and in the EU. We can't get on with things if we can even agree that Brexit is the problem we need to try to mitigate against.you mean if leavers agree with you ye ? Doesn't have anything to do with who agrees with me. People are still cheering on brexit, what hope is there to get people to "come together"?mate howay like you wamt the ppl to come together have you read yr posts over the last few months your still issued that we’ve left and have no interest in comeing together atleast be honest bud What would you have me do? Should people start to believe in brexit? There's still no evidence that it's anything except a power and wealth grab for those at the top. Should we just concede we're fucked and give up? I'm intrigued how you think it's all a power and wealth grab by those at the top. Given that is was mostly the so called "working class" who voted for it...and the Liberal elite who thought we would never be stupid enough to vote to leave. Brexit is many things but most significantly its done, it was done over 2 years ago. It's democracy at work and now we just have to get on and make the best of it. And we will as we have no other choice." Well the only people who will benefit are tax Dodgers, currency traders, US corporations, and potentially people like Tim Martin who hopes we will scrap many workers rights and environmental protections. Meanwhile the rest of us are worse off. The vote was based on lies by illegally funded leave campaigns. I'd hardly describe it as democracy in action. | |||
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" Should we just concede we're fucked and give up? You are what you think you are. NLP101 Dunno what that means. What's the answer then. Seemed like only a minority of leavers want the remainers deported. Should we just give up that there's any hope of a fairer society with less of a gap between the rich and poor?" It means that if you feel nothing can be changed and it's detrimental, to you it is. And you won't rise into another way of thinking (and doing) about it. While there are those that have inherited and those that have stolen, there are many more that got up one morning and went their own way by starting up a business of their own honestly and legitimately. The thing about a capitalist society is that: Business makes Profit. Profit is taxed. Employees are paid. Employees are taxed. Employees buy houses for their families. Their families inherit. Their inheritance is taxed. Taxes pay for services. Taxes pay for those in need. Taxes are payed to third world countries. . . . and around and around it goes. It's not inherently a bad thing. But it is the society we have. There are those that will abuse it every opportunity they get. But there are many many hundreds of businesses throughout the UK that look after their employees to the point of making themselves ill with worry. I know because some of my best friends have put everything about their employees before everything. We all need to stop whinging and start doing. | |||
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"Aw so do I that really would be to much to cope with pmsl It's funny all these Brexiteers making light of these things, notice you're not really touching on the guy who is loosing sales from it. It's funnier considering the 3 Brexit benefits posts a couple of weeks ago where in 3 post you were able to no benefits from what I could see any less trivial than what has been raised above. Whatever benefits there may or not be... Kind of irrelevant now isn't it? The votes been had, the deals been done and its up to us to get on with it... Or keep moaning about it... Or very possibly both. Stronger together Stronger together, and in the EU. We can't get on with things if we can even agree that Brexit is the problem we need to try to mitigate against.you mean if leavers agree with you ye ? Doesn't have anything to do with who agrees with me. People are still cheering on brexit, what hope is there to get people to "come together"?mate howay like you wamt the ppl to come together have you read yr posts over the last few months your still issued that we’ve left and have no interest in comeing together atleast be honest bud What would you have me do? Should people start to believe in brexit? There's still no evidence that it's anything except a power and wealth grab for those at the top. Should we just concede we're fucked and give up? I'm intrigued how you think it's all a power and wealth grab by those at the top. Given that is was mostly the so called "working class" who voted for it...and the Liberal elite who thought we would never be stupid enough to vote to leave. Brexit is many things but most significantly its done, it was done over 2 years ago. It's democracy at work and now we just have to get on and make the best of it. And we will as we have no other choice." Let's rewind a little. An advisory referendum (because parliament is sovereign) that people didn't know what they were voting for (brexit means brexit) won by the slimmest of margins. That's not democracy at work, its a slow motion car crash. | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
MAny EU countries are the same or more. Easy to find."So what's your point if any? | |||
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And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
MAny EU countries are the same or more. Easy to find.
So what's your point if any? "Go back to the OP. The counterpoint is that there are as many still selling to the UK without just picking two that aren't. | |||
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" Should we just concede we're fucked and give up? You are what you think you are. NLP101 Dunno what that means. What's the answer then. Seemed like only a minority of leavers want the remainers deported. Should we just give up that there's any hope of a fairer society with less of a gap between the rich and poor? It means that if you feel nothing can be changed and it's detrimental, to you it is. And you won't rise into another way of thinking (and doing) about it. While there are those that have inherited and those that have stolen, there are many more that got up one morning and went their own way by starting up a business of their own honestly and legitimately. The thing about a capitalist society is that: Business makes Profit. Profit is taxed. Employees are paid. Employees are taxed. Employees buy houses for their families. Their families inherit. Their inheritance is taxed. Taxes pay for services. Taxes pay for those in need. Taxes are payed to third world countries. . . . and around and around it goes. It's not inherently a bad thing. But it is the society we have. There are those that will abuse it every opportunity they get. But there are many many hundreds of businesses throughout the UK that look after their employees to the point of making themselves ill with worry. I know because some of my best friends have put everything about their employees before everything. We all need to stop whinging and start doing. "That's great an all. But it doesn't mean brexit is anything but a step away from a fairer society. | |||
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" Should we just concede we're fucked and give up? You are what you think you are. NLP101 Dunno what that means. What's the answer then. Seemed like only a minority of leavers want the remainers deported. Should we just give up that there's any hope of a fairer society with less of a gap between the rich and poor? It means that if you feel nothing can be changed and it's detrimental, to you it is. And you won't rise into another way of thinking (and doing) about it. While there are those that have inherited and those that have stolen, there are many more that got up one morning and went their own way by starting up a business of their own honestly and legitimately. The thing about a capitalist society is that: Business makes Profit. Profit is taxed. Employees are paid. Employees are taxed. Employees buy houses for their families. Their families inherit. Their inheritance is taxed. Taxes pay for services. Taxes pay for those in need. Taxes are payed to third world countries. . . . and around and around it goes. It's not inherently a bad thing. But it is the society we have. There are those that will abuse it every opportunity they get. But there are many many hundreds of businesses throughout the UK that look after their employees to the point of making themselves ill with worry. I know because some of my best friends have put everything about their employees before everything. We all need to stop whinging and start doing.
That's great an all. But it doesn't mean brexit is anything but a step away from a fairer society.
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" Should we just concede we're fucked and give up? You are what you think you are. NLP101 Dunno what that means. What's the answer then. Seemed like only a minority of leavers want the remainers deported. Should we just give up that there's any hope of a fairer society with less of a gap between the rich and poor? It means that if you feel nothing can be changed and it's detrimental, to you it is. And you won't rise into another way of thinking (and doing) about it. While there are those that have inherited and those that have stolen, there are many more that got up one morning and went their own way by starting up a business of their own honestly and legitimately. The thing about a capitalist society is that: Business makes Profit. Profit is taxed. Employees are paid. Employees are taxed. Employees buy houses for their families. Their families inherit. Their inheritance is taxed. Taxes pay for services. Taxes pay for those in need. Taxes are payed to third world countries. . . . and around and around it goes. It's not inherently a bad thing. But it is the society we have. There are those that will abuse it every opportunity they get. But there are many many hundreds of businesses throughout the UK that look after their employees to the point of making themselves ill with worry. I know because some of my best friends have put everything about their employees before everything. We all need to stop whinging and start doing.
That's great an all. But it doesn't mean brexit is anything but a step away from a fairer society.
It's what we choose to make of it now. "Can you expand on this point? Do you mean we need to make the most of a bad situation? | |||
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And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
MAny EU countries are the same or more. Easy to find.
So what's your point if any?
Go back to the OP. The counterpoint is that there are as many still selling to the UK without just picking two that aren't."On selling from here, its the customs and import fees that will hike stuff ,not too noticable on smaller purchases but very noticable with bigger items. | |||
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"Aw so do I that really would be to much to cope with pmsl It's funny all these Brexiteers making light of these things, notice you're not really touching on the guy who is loosing sales from it. It's funnier considering the 3 Brexit benefits posts a couple of weeks ago where in 3 post you were able to no benefits from what I could see any less trivial than what has been raised above. Whatever benefits there may or not be... Kind of irrelevant now isn't it? The votes been had, the deals been done and its up to us to get on with it... Or keep moaning about it... Or very possibly both. Stronger together Stronger together, and in the EU. We can't get on with things if we can even agree that Brexit is the problem we need to try to mitigate against.you mean if leavers agree with you ye ? Doesn't have anything to do with who agrees with me. People are still cheering on brexit, what hope is there to get people to "come together"?mate howay like you wamt the ppl to come together have you read yr posts over the last few months your still issued that we’ve left and have no interest in comeing together atleast be honest bud What would you have me do? Should people start to believe in brexit? There's still no evidence that it's anything except a power and wealth grab for those at the top. Should we just concede we're fucked and give up?" so what would you have me do believe we should of stayed can you see the circles we are going round lol | |||
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"Aw so do I that really would be to much to cope with pmsl It's funny all these Brexiteers making light of these things, notice you're not really touching on the guy who is loosing sales from it. It's funnier considering the 3 Brexit benefits posts a couple of weeks ago where in 3 post you were able to no benefits from what I could see any less trivial than what has been raised above. Whatever benefits there may or not be... Kind of irrelevant now isn't it? The votes been had, the deals been done and its up to us to get on with it... Or keep moaning about it... Or very possibly both. Stronger together Stronger together, and in the EU. We can't get on with things if we can even agree that Brexit is the problem we need to try to mitigate against.you mean if leavers agree with you ye ? Doesn't have anything to do with who agrees with me. People are still cheering on brexit, what hope is there to get people to "come together"?mate howay like you wamt the ppl to come together have you read yr posts over the last few months your still issued that we’ve left and have no interest in comeing together atleast be honest bud What would you have me do? Should people start to believe in brexit? There's still no evidence that it's anything except a power and wealth grab for those at the top. Should we just concede we're fucked and give up?so what would you have me do believe we should of stayed can you see the circles we are going round lol" You could share what makes you believe we're better out of the EU? Do you feel like people don't understand something, or some piece of information we're missing? | |||
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" It's what we choose to make of it now. Can you expand on this point? Do you mean we need to make the most of a bad situation? I for one don't think it's a bad situation at all. Though I accept that you do. I would say make the best of this situation: 'We are fundamentally out of the EU. But with deal that includes tarif free trade'." Sure, it's based off belief rather than information though. Is there anything that you think Sceptical people are missing? What's the good news amongst the sea of negative? | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products. "Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit . The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something .. it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU "Oh not really a brexit benifet then. | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then."Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh "I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep. | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then."When do you think the Eu 27 will unanimously vote on a change to the legislation to allow member states to reduce their vat rate below 5% if they want to? | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
When do you think the Eu 27 will unanimously vote on a change to the legislation to allow member states to reduce their vat rate below 5% if they want to?"They already can reduce there vat to 5% on certain goods and services, personally I believe the 15% threshold is good as it stops countries racing to the bottom like the uk now will have to do or tho with the perilous state of uk borrowing the chances for tax reduction is zero. | |||
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"Always amazes me that we are now all supposed to come together, work together, to make uk great again. We are definitely not a united kingdom and it will takes years for anything like a coming together if ever. " come together my asshole, the only thing that kept you clowns together was blaming the EU for all your problems, Now you are gone from the EU your problems are still there and only going to get worse, who are you going to blame now Pull together my arse | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep."EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%. Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted. I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.  | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules. "Considering brexit has cost billions and counting it amazes me saving a few pence on tampons would be seen as a major victory over the evil EU empire, strange | |||
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And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Considering brexit has cost billions and counting it amazes me saving a few pence on tampons would be seen as a major victory over the evil EU empire, strange "I never said it was a major victory. I simply stated the facts around the rules. You decided to call people "dimwits" when you clearly didn't know anything about VAT rules and even the current UK rates. Are you really a businessnan exporting to the EU? | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules. "Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this. | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this. "Ireland has zero vat rating as it implemented this rate before the EU deemed such items as "luxury" and therefore vatable. David Cameron asked the EU Commision for reform in 2016. The EU did indeed put forward proposals in 2018 but they were not acted on. Therefore the 5% rate stood. | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Considering brexit has cost billions and counting it amazes me saving a few pence on tampons would be seen as a major victory over the evil EU empire, strange "I'm guessing the ladies who use these items may have a different opinion to a man.! | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this.
Ireland has zero vat rating as it implemented this rate before the EU deemed such items as "luxury" and therefore vatable.
David Cameron asked the EU Commision for reform in 2016. The EU did indeed put forward proposals in 2018 but they were not acted on. Therefore the 5% rate stood. "Its estimated it will save a woman £1 a week or thereabouts over her lifetime which is obiviously a major victory in a brexiteers eyes, yet billions wasted to make the uk a much reduced country and economy, yes I'll stick to my dimwitted comment. | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this.
Ireland has zero vat rating as it implemented this rate before the EU deemed such items as "luxury" and therefore vatable.
David Cameron asked the EU Commision for reform in 2016. The EU did indeed put forward proposals in 2018 but they were not acted on. Therefore the 5% rate stood.
Its estimated it will save a woman £1 a week or thereabouts over her lifetime which is obiviously a major victory in a brexiteers eyes, yet billions wasted to make the uk a much reduced country and economy, yes I'll stick to my dimwitted comment."Then that says much more about you than you care to let on. | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this.
Ireland has zero vat rating as it implemented this rate before the EU deemed such items as "luxury" and therefore vatable.
David Cameron asked the EU Commision for reform in 2016. The EU did indeed put forward proposals in 2018 but they were not acted on. Therefore the 5% rate stood.
Its estimated it will save a woman £1 a week or thereabouts over her lifetime which is obiviously a major victory in a brexiteers eyes, yet billions wasted to make the uk a much reduced country and economy, yes I'll stick to my dimwitted comment.
Then that says much more about you than you care to let on. "I'd say smart is wanting the best for your country, Dim is seeing it become poorer and cheerleading. | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this.
Ireland has zero vat rating as it implemented this rate before the EU deemed such items as "luxury" and therefore vatable.
David Cameron asked the EU Commision for reform in 2016. The EU did indeed put forward proposals in 2018 but they were not acted on. Therefore the 5% rate stood. "German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831 But guess who voted against it??? | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this.
Ireland has zero vat rating as it implemented this rate before the EU deemed such items as "luxury" and therefore vatable.
David Cameron asked the EU Commision for reform in 2016. The EU did indeed put forward proposals in 2018 but they were not acted on. Therefore the 5% rate stood.
German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831
But guess who voted against it???"No, Germany hasn't abolished it. It reduced the VAT rate down from 19% to 7%. | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this.
Ireland has zero vat rating as it implemented this rate before the EU deemed such items as "luxury" and therefore vatable.
David Cameron asked the EU Commision for reform in 2016. The EU did indeed put forward proposals in 2018 but they were not acted on. Therefore the 5% rate stood.
German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831
But guess who voted against it???
No, Germany hasn't abolished it.
It reduced the VAT rate down from 19% to 7%."Ok fair enough, Ireland? And what about the Vote in 2015, who voted against it? | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this.
Ireland has zero vat rating as it implemented this rate before the EU deemed such items as "luxury" and therefore vatable.
David Cameron asked the EU Commision for reform in 2016. The EU did indeed put forward proposals in 2018 but they were not acted on. Therefore the 5% rate stood.
German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831
But guess who voted against it???
No, Germany hasn't abolished it.
It reduced the VAT rate down from 19% to 7%.
Ok fair enough, Ireland?
And what about the Vote in 2015, who voted against it?"As I said above to another poster, Ireland has "grandfather" rights, as they zero-rated before the EU set the rates/categories etc. No law has yet been passed by the EU Parliament to zero rate these products, although it can't be too far away. | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this.
Ireland has zero vat rating as it implemented this rate before the EU deemed such items as "luxury" and therefore vatable.
David Cameron asked the EU Commision for reform in 2016. The EU did indeed put forward proposals in 2018 but they were not acted on. Therefore the 5% rate stood.
German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831
But guess who voted against it???
No, Germany hasn't abolished it.
It reduced the VAT rate down from 19% to 7%.
Ok fair enough, Ireland?
And what about the Vote in 2015, who voted against it?
As I said above to another poster, Ireland has "grandfather" rights, as they zero-rated before the EU set the rates/categories etc.
No law has yet been passed by the EU Parliament to zero rate these products, although it can't be too far away. "Here is the full list of MPs who voted against the proposal to in 2015 Notice anything about them? Adams, Nigel Afriyie, Adam Aldous, Peter Allan, Lucy Allen, Heidi Amess, Sir David Andrew, Stuart Ansell, Caroline Argar, Edward Atkins, Victoria Bacon, Mr Richard Baker, Mr Steve Baldwin, Harriett Barclay, Stephen Barwell, Gavin Bebb, Guto Bellingham, Mr Henry Benyon, Richard Beresford, Sir Paul Berry, Jake Berry, James Bingham, Andrew Blackman, Bob Blackwood, Nicola Boles, Nick Bone, Mr Peter Borwick, Victoria Bradley, Karen Brady, Mr Graham Brazier, Mr Julian Bridgen, Andrew Brine, Steve Brokenshire, rh James Bruce, Fiona Buckland, Robert Burns, rh Sir Simon Burrowes, Mr David Burt, rh Alistair Cairns, Alun Carmichael, Neil Cartlidge, James Caulfield, Maria Chalk, Alex Chishti, Rehman Chope, Mr Christopher Churchill, Jo Clark, rh Greg Clarke, rh Mr Kenneth Cleverly, James Clifton-Brown, Geoffrey Coffey, Dr Thérèse Collins, Damian Colvile, Oliver Costa, Alberto Cox, Mr Geoffrey Crabb, rh Stephen Crouch, Tracey Davies, Byron Davies, Chris Davies, David T. C. Davies, Glyn Davies, Dr James Davies, Mims Davis, rh Mr David Dinenage, Caroline Djanogly, Mr Jonathan Donelan, Michelle Double, Steve Dowden, Oliver Doyle-Price, Jackie Drax, Richard Drummond, Mrs Flick Duddridge, James Duncan, rh Sir Alan Duncan Smith, rh Mr Iain Dunne, Mr Philip Elliott, Tom Ellis, Michael Ellison, Jane Ellwood, Mr Tobias Elphicke, Charlie Eustice, George Evans, Graham Evans, Mr Nigel Evennett, rh Mr David Fabricant, Michael Fallon, rh Michael Field, rh Mark Foster, Kevin Fox, rh Dr Liam Frazer, Lucy Freeman, George Freer, Mike Fuller, Richard Fysh, Marcus Garnier, rh Sir Edward Garnier, Mark Gauke, Mr David Ghani, Nusrat Gibb, Mr Nick Gillan, rh Mrs Cheryl Glen, John Goldsmith, Zac Goodwill, Mr Robert Gove, rh Michael Graham, Richard Grant, Mrs Helen Gray, Mr James Grayling, rh Chris Green, Chris Green, rh Damian Grieve, rh Mr Dominic Griffiths, Andrew Gummer, Ben Gyimah, Mr Sam Halfon, rh Robert Hall, Luke Hammond, rh Mr Philip Hammond, Stephen Hancock, rh Matthew Hands, rh Greg Harper, rh Mr Mark Harrington, Richard Harris, Rebecca Hart, Simon Haselhurst, rh Sir Alan Hayes, rh Mr John Heald, Sir Oliver Heappey, James Heaton-Harris, Chris Heaton-Jones, Peter Henderson, Gordon Herbert, rh Nick Hinds, Damian Hoare, Simon Hollinrake, Kevin Hopkins, Kris Howarth, Sir Gerald Howell, John Howlett, Ben Huddleston, Nigel Hunt, rh Mr Jeremy Hurd, Mr Nick Jackson, Mr Stewart Javid, rh Sajid Jayawardena, Mr Ranil Jenkyns, Andrea Jenrick, Robert Johnson, Boris Johnson, Gareth Johnson, Joseph Jones, Andrew Jones, rh Mr David Jones, Mr Marcus Kawczynski, Daniel Kennedy, Seema Kinahan, Danny Kirby, Simon Knight, rh Sir Greg Knight, Julian Kwarteng, Kwasi Lancaster, Mark Latham, Pauline Leadsom, Andrea Lee, Dr Phillip Lefroy, Jeremy Leigh, Sir Edward Leslie, Charlotte Letwin, rh Mr Oliver Lewis, Brandon Lewis, rh Dr Julian Liddell-Grainger, Mr Ian Lidington, rh Mr David Lopresti, Jack Lord, Jonathan Loughton, Tim Lumley, Karen Mackinlay, Craig Mackintosh, David Main, Mrs Anne Mak, Mr Alan Malthouse, Kit Mann, Scott Mathias, Dr Tania May, rh Mrs Theresa Maynard, Paul McCartney, Jason McCartney, Karl McPartland, Stephen Menzies, Mark Mercer, Johnny Merriman, Huw Metcalfe, Stephen Miller, rh Mrs Maria Milling, Amanda Mills, Nigel Milton, rh Anne Mitchell, rh Mr Andrew Mordaunt, Penny Morgan, rh Nicky Morris, Anne Marie Morris, David Morris, James Morton, Wendy Mowat, David Mundell, rh David Murray, Mrs Sheryll Murrison, Dr Andrew Neill, Robert Newton, Sarah Nokes, Caroline Norman, Jesse Offord, Dr Matthew Opperman, Guy Osborne, rh Mr George Parish, Neil Patel, rh Priti Paterson, rh Mr Owen Pawsey, Mark Penning, rh Mike Penrose, John Percy, Andrew Perry, Claire Phillips, Stephen Philp, Chris Pickles, rh Sir Eric Pincher, Christopher Poulter, Dr Daniel Pow, Rebecca Prentis, Victoria Prisk, Mr Mark Pritchard, Mark Pursglove, Tom Quin, Jeremy Quince, Will Raab, Mr Dominic Rees-Mogg, Mr Jacob Robertson, Mr Laurence Robinson, Mary Rosindell, Andrew Rudd, rh Amber Rutley, David Sandbach, Antoinette Scully, Paul Selous, Andrew Sharma, Alok Shelbrooke, Alec Simpson, rh Mr Keith Skidmore, Chris Smith, Chloe Smith, Henry Smith, Julian Smith, Royston Solloway, Amanda Soubry, rh Anna Spelman, rh Mrs Caroline Spencer, Mark Stephenson, Andrew Stevenson, John Stewart, Bob Stewart, Iain Streeter, Mr Gary Stride, Mel Stuart, Graham Sturdy, Julian Sunak, Rishi Swayne, rh Mr Desmond Swire, rh Mr Hugo Syms, Mr Robert Thomas, Derek Throup, Maggie Timpson, Edward Tolhurst, Kelly Tomlinson, Justin Tomlinson, Michael Tracey, Craig Tredinnick, David Trevelyan, Mrs Anne-Marie Truss, rh Elizabeth Tugendhat, Tom Turner, Mr Andrew Tyrie, rh Mr Andrew Vaizey, Mr Edward Vara, Mr Shailesh Vickers, Martin Walker, Mr Charles Walker, Mr Robin Wallace, Mr Ben Warburton, David Warman, Matt Watkinson, Dame Angela Wharton, James Whately, Helen Wheeler, Heather White, Chris Whittaker, Craig Wiggin, Bill Williams, Craig Williamson, rh Gavin Wilson, Mr Rob Wollaston, Dr Sarah Wood, Mike Wragg, William Wright, rh Jeremy Zahawi, Nadhim And here is the list of MPs who voted for the amendment: Abbott, Ms Diane Abrahams, Debbie Ahmed-Sheikh, Ms Tasmina Alexander, Heidi Ali, Rushanara Allen, Mr Graham Anderson, Mr David Arkless, Richard Ashworth, Jonathan Austin, Ian Bailey, Mr Adrian Bardell, Hannah Barron, rh Kevin Beckett, rh Margaret Betts, Mr Clive Black, Mhairi Blackman, Kirsty Blackman-Woods, Dr Roberta Blenkinsop, Tom Blomfield, Paul Boswell, Philip Bradshaw, rh Mr Ben Brake, rh Tom Brennan, Kevin Brock, Deidre Brown, Alan Brown, Lyn Brown, rh Mr Nicholas Bryant, Chris Buck, Ms Karen Burden, Richard Burgon, Richard Burnham, rh Andy Butler, Dawn Byrne, rh Liam Cadbury, Ruth Cameron, Dr Lisa Campbell, rh Mr Alan Campbell, Mr Gregory Campbell, Mr Ronnie Carmichael, rh Mr Alistair Carswell, Mr Douglas Champion, Sarah Chapman, Douglas Chapman, Jenny Clwyd, rh Ann Coaker, Vernon Coffey, Ann Cooper, Julie Corbyn, Jeremy Cowan, Ronnie Cox, Jo Coyle, Neil Crausby, Mr David Crawley, Angela Creagh, Mary Creasy, Stella Cruddas, Jon Cryer, John Cummins, Judith Cunningham, Alex Cunningham, Mr Jim Dakin, Nic David, Wayne Davies, Geraint Davies, Philip Day, Martyn De Piero, Gloria Docherty, Martin John Donaldson, Stuart Blair Doughty, Stephen Dowd, Jim Dowd, Peter Dromey, Jack Dugher, Michael Durkan, Mark Eagle, Ms Angela Eagle, Maria Edwards, Jonathan Efford, Clive Elliott, Julie Ellman, Mrs Louise Esterson, Bill Evans, Chris Farrelly, Paul Fellows, Marion Field, rh Frank Flello, Robert Fletcher, Colleen Flint, rh Caroline Flynn, Paul Fovargue, Yvonne Foxcroft, Vicky Gapes, Mike Gardiner, Barry Gethins, Stephen Gibson, Patricia Glass, Pat Glindon, Mary Godsiff, Mr Roger Goodman, Helen Grady, Patrick Grant, Peter Gray, Neil Green, Kate Greenwood, Lilian Greenwood, Margaret Griffith, Nia Gwynne, Andrew Haigh, Louise Hamilton, Fabian Hanson, rh Mr David Harman, rh Ms Harriet Harpham, Harry Harris, Carolyn Hayes, Helen Hayman, Sue Healey, rh John Hendrick, Mr Mark Hendry, Drew Hepburn, Mr Stephen Hermon, Lady Hillier, Meg Hodge, rh Dame Margaret Hodgson, Mrs Sharon Hoey, Kate Hollern, Kate Hollobone, Mr Philip Hopkins, Kelvin Hosie, Stewart Hunt, Tristram Huq, Dr Rupa Hussain, Imran Irranca-Davies, Huw Jarvis, Dan Johnson, rh Alan Johnson, Diana Jones, Gerald Jones, Graham Jones, Helen Jones, Mr Kevan Jones, Susan Elan Kane, Mike Kaufman, rh Sir Gerald Keeley, Barbara Kendall, Liz Kerevan, George Kerr, Calum Kinnock, Stephen Kyle, Peter Lamb, rh Norman Lammy, rh Mr David Lavery, Ian Law, Chris Leslie, Chris Lewell-Buck, Mrs Emma Lewis, Clive Lewis, Mr Ivan Long Bailey, Rebecca Lucas, Caroline Lucas, Ian C. MacNeil, Mr Angus Brendan Madders, Justin Mahmood, Mr Khalid Mahmood, Shabana Malhotra, Seema Mann, John Marris, Rob Marsden, Mr Gordon Maskell, Rachael Matheson, Christian Mc Nally, John McCabe, Steve McCaig, Callum McCarthy, Kerry McDonagh, Siobhain McDonald, Andy McDonald, Stewart Malcolm McDonald, Stuart C. McDonnell, John McFadden, rh Mr Pat McGarry, Natalie McGinn, Conor McGovern, Alison McInnes, Liz McKinnell, Catherine McLaughlin, Anne Meale, Sir Alan Mearns, Ian Miliband, rh Edward Monaghan, Carol Monaghan, Dr Paul Moon, Mrs Madeleine Morden, Jessica Morris, Grahame M. Mulholland, Greg Mullin, Roger Murray, Ian Nandy, Lisa Newlands, Gavin Nicolson, John Nuttall, Mr David O'Hara, Brendan Onn, Melanie Onwurah, Chi Osamor, Kate Owen, Albert Paisley, Ian Paterson, Steven Pearce, Teresa Pennycook, Matthew Perkins, Toby Phillips, Jess Phillipson, Bridget Pound, Stephen Powell, Lucy Pugh, John Qureshi, Yasmin Rayner, Angela Reed, Mr Jamie Reed, Mr Steve Rees, Christina Reynolds, Emma Reynolds, Jonathan Rimmer, Marie Ritchie, Ms Margaret Robertson, rh Angus Robinson, Gavin Robinson, Mr Geoffrey Rotheram, Steve Ryan, rh Joan Salmond, rh Alex Saville Roberts, Liz Shah, Naz Shannon, Jim Sharma, Mr Virendra Sheerman, Mr Barry Sheppard, Tommy Sherriff, Paula Shuker, Mr Gavin Siddiq, Tulip Skinner, Mr Dennis Slaughter, Andy Smeeth, Ruth Smith, rh Mr Andrew Smith, Angela Smith, Cat Smith, Nick Smith, Owen Smyth, Karin Starmer, Keir Stephens, Chris Stevens, Jo Streeting, Wes Stringer, Graham Stuart, rh Ms Gisela Tami, Mark Thewliss, Alison Thomas, Mr Gareth Thomas-Symonds, Nick Thompson, Owen Thomson, Michelle Thornberry, Emily Timms, rh Stephen Trickett, Jon Turley, Anna Turner, Karl Twigg, Derek Umunna, Mr Chuka Vaz, Valerie Watson, Mr Tom Weir, Mike West, Catherine Whiteford, Dr Eilidh Whitehead, Dr Alan Whitford, Dr Philippa Williams, Hywel Williams, Mr Mark Wilson, Corri Wilson, Phil Wilson, Sammy Winnick, Mr David Winterton, rh Ms Rosie Wishart, Pete Woodcock, John Wright, Mr Iain Zeichner, Daniel. | |||
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"https://qz.com/642811/the-eu-will-finally-allow-member-states-to-scrap-their-tampon-tax/ For clarification on the tampon tax ..2015 the EU declared individual member states could set there own rate of VAT ( including 0%) Couple of interesting points . 1 reference to the USA . and there take on woman’s sanitary products and Vat 2 . Of the 5% charged the revenue from which was distributed between four woman’s charities .. 3 .. It was the UK that persuaded the EU to change it’s mind on the Vat status of sanitary products .. Kinda debunking the myth that the UK had no leverage within the EU .. I’m sure the uk was looked upto by many of the smaller less influential countries amongst the EU .. " This is factually incorrect - the Eu has not changed its legislation to allow member states to set its vat rate at 0 for sanitary products. There is agreement legislation should be introduced, however it has yet to be agreed and voted on by the 27 members - 2022 is being suggested as a possible timeframe for this to be applied (this was originally started in 2018) As it stands at the moment Eu members can only reduce the vat rate to the minimum - 5% | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this.
Ireland has zero vat rating as it implemented this rate before the EU deemed such items as "luxury" and therefore vatable.
David Cameron asked the EU Commision for reform in 2016. The EU did indeed put forward proposals in 2018 but they were not acted on. Therefore the 5% rate stood.
German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831
But guess who voted against it???
No, Germany hasn't abolished it.
It reduced the VAT rate down from 19% to 7%.
Ok fair enough, Ireland?
And what about the Vote in 2015, who voted against it?"You’re claim is factually incorrect https://fullfact.org/economy/did-mps-vote-against-removing-tampon-tax/ | |||
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"https://qz.com/642811/the-eu-will-finally-allow-member-states-to-scrap-their-tampon-tax/ For clarification on the tampon tax ..2015 the EU declared individual member states could set there own rate of VAT ( including 0%) Couple of interesting points . 1 reference to the USA . and there take on woman’s sanitary products and Vat 2 . Of the 5% charged the revenue from which was distributed between four woman’s charities .. 3 .. It was the UK that persuaded the EU to change it’s mind on the Vat status of sanitary products .. Kinda debunking the myth that the UK had no leverage within the EU .. I’m sure the uk was looked upto by many of the smaller less influential countries amongst the EU .. This is factually incorrect - the Eu has not changed its legislation to allow member states to set its vat rate at 0 for sanitary products. There is agreement legislation should be introduced, however it has yet to be agreed and voted on by the 27 members - 2022 is being suggested as a possible timeframe for this to be applied (this was originally started in 2018) As it stands at the moment Eu members can only reduce the vat rate to the minimum - 5%" Again, why did the Conservative choose to do nothing about it in 2015? | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this.
Ireland has zero vat rating as it implemented this rate before the EU deemed such items as "luxury" and therefore vatable.
David Cameron asked the EU Commision for reform in 2016. The EU did indeed put forward proposals in 2018 but they were not acted on. Therefore the 5% rate stood.
German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831
But guess who voted against it???
No, Germany hasn't abolished it.
It reduced the VAT rate down from 19% to 7%.
Ok fair enough, Ireland?
And what about the Vote in 2015, who voted against it?
You’re claim is factually incorrect
https://fullfact.org/economy/did-mps-vote-against-removing-tampon-tax/"It's not factually incorrect though is it? They voted against a roadmap, they voted to nothing about it. | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this.
Ireland has zero vat rating as it implemented this rate before the EU deemed such items as "luxury" and therefore vatable.
David Cameron asked the EU Commision for reform in 2016. The EU did indeed put forward proposals in 2018 but they were not acted on. Therefore the 5% rate stood.
German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831
But guess who voted against it???
No, Germany hasn't abolished it.
It reduced the VAT rate down from 19% to 7%.
Ok fair enough, Ireland?
And what about the Vote in 2015, who voted against it?
You’re claim is factually incorrect
https://fullfact.org/economy/did-mps-vote-against-removing-tampon-tax/
It's not factually incorrect though is it? They voted against a roadmap, they voted to nothing about it."So say that... and don’t fudge the facts to suit your narrative | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this.
Ireland has zero vat rating as it implemented this rate before the EU deemed such items as "luxury" and therefore vatable.
David Cameron asked the EU Commision for reform in 2016. The EU did indeed put forward proposals in 2018 but they were not acted on. Therefore the 5% rate stood.
German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831
But guess who voted against it???
No, Germany hasn't abolished it.
It reduced the VAT rate down from 19% to 7%.
Ok fair enough, Ireland?
And what about the Vote in 2015, who voted against it?
You’re claim is factually incorrect
https://fullfact.org/economy/did-mps-vote-against-removing-tampon-tax/"Is that the same full fact organisation that’s backed by Omidyar network , an investment company ran by the owner of eBay and his wife .. ? | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this.
Ireland has zero vat rating as it implemented this rate before the EU deemed such items as "luxury" and therefore vatable.
David Cameron asked the EU Commision for reform in 2016. The EU did indeed put forward proposals in 2018 but they were not acted on. Therefore the 5% rate stood.
German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831
But guess who voted against it???
No, Germany hasn't abolished it.
It reduced the VAT rate down from 19% to 7%.
Ok fair enough, Ireland?
And what about the Vote in 2015, who voted against it?
You’re claim is factually incorrect
https://fullfact.org/economy/did-mps-vote-against-removing-tampon-tax/
It's not factually incorrect though is it? They voted against a roadmap, they voted to nothing about it.
So say that... and don’t fudge the facts to suit your narrative "Where did I do that please point it out? | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this.
Ireland has zero vat rating as it implemented this rate before the EU deemed such items as "luxury" and therefore vatable.
David Cameron asked the EU Commision for reform in 2016. The EU did indeed put forward proposals in 2018 but they were not acted on. Therefore the 5% rate stood.
German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831
But guess who voted against it???
No, Germany hasn't abolished it.
It reduced the VAT rate down from 19% to 7%.
Ok fair enough, Ireland?
And what about the Vote in 2015, who voted against it?
You’re claim is factually incorrect
https://fullfact.org/economy/did-mps-vote-against-removing-tampon-tax/
It's not factually incorrect though is it? They voted against a roadmap, they voted to nothing about it.
So say that... and don’t fudge the facts to suit your narrative "Hence David Cameron asking the EU Commision to do something about it in 2016. Proposals published by the EuC in 2018. Possible push by the EuP in late 2021/early 2022 to get it into legislation. Then the other 27 EU nations can follow the more progressive 17ish countries and zero rate. | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this.
Ireland has zero vat rating as it implemented this rate before the EU deemed such items as "luxury" and therefore vatable.
David Cameron asked the EU Commision for reform in 2016. The EU did indeed put forward proposals in 2018 but they were not acted on. Therefore the 5% rate stood.
German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831
But guess who voted against it???
No, Germany hasn't abolished it.
It reduced the VAT rate down from 19% to 7%.
Ok fair enough, Ireland?
And what about the Vote in 2015, who voted against it?
You’re claim is factually incorrect
https://fullfact.org/economy/did-mps-vote-against-removing-tampon-tax/
It's not factually incorrect though is it? They voted against a roadmap, they voted to nothing about it.
So say that... and don’t fudge the facts to suit your narrative
Hence David Cameron asking the EU Commision to do something about it in 2016.
Proposals published by the EuC in 2018. Possible push by the EuP in late 2021/early 2022 to get it into legislation.
Then the other 27 EU nations can follow the more progressive 17ish countries and zero rate. "It doesn't excuse the fact they voted against the proposal in 2015. | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this.
Ireland has zero vat rating as it implemented this rate before the EU deemed such items as "luxury" and therefore vatable.
David Cameron asked the EU Commision for reform in 2016. The EU did indeed put forward proposals in 2018 but they were not acted on. Therefore the 5% rate stood.
German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831
But guess who voted against it???
No, Germany hasn't abolished it.
It reduced the VAT rate down from 19% to 7%.
Ok fair enough, Ireland?
And what about the Vote in 2015, who voted against it?
You’re claim is factually incorrect
https://fullfact.org/economy/did-mps-vote-against-removing-tampon-tax/
It's not factually incorrect though is it? They voted against a roadmap, they voted to nothing about it.
So say that... and don’t fudge the facts to suit your narrative
Hence David Cameron asking the EU Commision to do something about it in 2016.
Proposals published by the EuC in 2018. Possible push by the EuP in late 2021/early 2022 to get it into legislation.
Then the other 27 EU nations can follow the more progressive 17ish countries and zero rate.
It doesn't excuse the fact they voted against the proposal in 2015. "Yes- we went one better and said “why the hell should we have to seek the approval of 27 other nations in order to adjust a tax rate “ U.K. - 1st jan 2021 - zero Eu 27 - 1st jan 2021 - 2018 proposal still to be discussed and voted (and obtain unanimous agreement from 27 members) - possible timeframe - 2022 Why are they taking so long to agree and implement something so simple? | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this.
Ireland has zero vat rating as it implemented this rate before the EU deemed such items as "luxury" and therefore vatable.
David Cameron asked the EU Commision for reform in 2016. The EU did indeed put forward proposals in 2018 but they were not acted on. Therefore the 5% rate stood.
German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831
But guess who voted against it???
No, Germany hasn't abolished it.
It reduced the VAT rate down from 19% to 7%.
Ok fair enough, Ireland?
And what about the Vote in 2015, who voted against it?
You’re claim is factually incorrect
https://fullfact.org/economy/did-mps-vote-against-removing-tampon-tax/
It's not factually incorrect though is it? They voted against a roadmap, they voted to nothing about it.
So say that... and don’t fudge the facts to suit your narrative
Hence David Cameron asking the EU Commision to do something about it in 2016.
Proposals published by the EuC in 2018. Possible push by the EuP in late 2021/early 2022 to get it into legislation.
Then the other 27 EU nations can follow the more progressive 17ish countries and zero rate.
It doesn't excuse the fact they voted against the proposal in 2015.
Yes- we went one better and said “why the hell should we have to seek the approval of 27 other nations in order to adjust a tax rate “
U.K. - 1st jan 2021 - zero
Eu 27 - 1st jan 2021 - 2018 proposal still to be discussed and voted (and obtain unanimous agreement from 27 members) - possible timeframe - 2022
Why are they taking so long to agree and implement something so simple?
"Can you point out where I fudged the facts please? Also, Why did they vote to do nothing in 2015. You haven't answered that! | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this.
Ireland has zero vat rating as it implemented this rate before the EU deemed such items as "luxury" and therefore vatable.
David Cameron asked the EU Commision for reform in 2016. The EU did indeed put forward proposals in 2018 but they were not acted on. Therefore the 5% rate stood.
German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831
But guess who voted against it???
No, Germany hasn't abolished it.
It reduced the VAT rate down from 19% to 7%.
Ok fair enough, Ireland?
And what about the Vote in 2015, who voted against it?
You’re claim is factually incorrect
https://fullfact.org/economy/did-mps-vote-against-removing-tampon-tax/
It's not factually incorrect though is it? They voted against a roadmap, they voted to nothing about it.
So say that... and don’t fudge the facts to suit your narrative
Hence David Cameron asking the EU Commision to do something about it in 2016.
Proposals published by the EuC in 2018. Possible push by the EuP in late 2021/early 2022 to get it into legislation.
Then the other 27 EU nations can follow the more progressive 17ish countries and zero rate.
It doesn't excuse the fact they voted against the proposal in 2015.
Yes- we went one better and said “why the hell should we have to seek the approval of 27 other nations in order to adjust a tax rate “
U.K. - 1st jan 2021 - zero
Eu 27 - 1st jan 2021 - 2018 proposal still to be discussed and voted (and obtain unanimous agreement from 27 members) - possible timeframe - 2022
Why are they taking so long to agree and implement something so simple?
Can you point out where I fudged the facts please?
Also, Why did they vote to do nothing in 2015. You haven't answered that!"Check your own posts They didn’t do nothing - they pushed ahead to try and get the other Eu27 on board - the fullfact link explains the position perfectly well .. and still they are talking about it - possibly being implemented - if everyone agrees - by 2022. U.K. - first opportunity - done it | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this.
Ireland has zero vat rating as it implemented this rate before the EU deemed such items as "luxury" and therefore vatable.
David Cameron asked the EU Commision for reform in 2016. The EU did indeed put forward proposals in 2018 but they were not acted on. Therefore the 5% rate stood.
German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831
But guess who voted against it???
No, Germany hasn't abolished it.
It reduced the VAT rate down from 19% to 7%.
Ok fair enough, Ireland?
And what about the Vote in 2015, who voted against it?
You’re claim is factually incorrect
https://fullfact.org/economy/did-mps-vote-against-removing-tampon-tax/
It's not factually incorrect though is it? They voted against a roadmap, they voted to nothing about it.
So say that... and don’t fudge the facts to suit your narrative
Hence David Cameron asking the EU Commision to do something about it in 2016.
Proposals published by the EuC in 2018. Possible push by the EuP in late 2021/early 2022 to get it into legislation.
Then the other 27 EU nations can follow the more progressive 17ish countries and zero rate.
It doesn't excuse the fact they voted against the proposal in 2015.
Yes- we went one better and said “why the hell should we have to seek the approval of 27 other nations in order to adjust a tax rate “
U.K. - 1st jan 2021 - zero
Eu 27 - 1st jan 2021 - 2018 proposal still to be discussed and voted (and obtain unanimous agreement from 27 members) - possible timeframe - 2022
Why are they taking so long to agree and implement something so simple?
Can you point out where I fudged the facts please?
Also, Why did they vote to do nothing in 2015. You haven't answered that!
Check your own posts
They didn’t do nothing - they pushed ahead to try and get the other Eu27 on board - the fullfact link explains the position perfectly well
.. and still they are talking about it - possibly being implemented - if everyone agrees - by 2022.
U.K. - first opportunity - done it "No, where did I post fudged facts please identify and post, doing it now doesn't excuse doing nothing in 2015, Johnson et all voted against. | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this.
Ireland has zero vat rating as it implemented this rate before the EU deemed such items as "luxury" and therefore vatable.
David Cameron asked the EU Commision for reform in 2016. The EU did indeed put forward proposals in 2018 but they were not acted on. Therefore the 5% rate stood.
German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831
But guess who voted against it???
No, Germany hasn't abolished it.
It reduced the VAT rate down from 19% to 7%.
Ok fair enough, Ireland?
And what about the Vote in 2015, who voted against it?
You’re claim is factually incorrect
https://fullfact.org/economy/did-mps-vote-against-removing-tampon-tax/
It's not factually incorrect though is it? They voted against a roadmap, they voted to nothing about it.
So say that... and don’t fudge the facts to suit your narrative
Hence David Cameron asking the EU Commision to do something about it in 2016.
Proposals published by the EuC in 2018. Possible push by the EuP in late 2021/early 2022 to get it into legislation.
Then the other 27 EU nations can follow the more progressive 17ish countries and zero rate.
It doesn't excuse the fact they voted against the proposal in 2015.
Yes- we went one better and said “why the hell should we have to seek the approval of 27 other nations in order to adjust a tax rate “
U.K. - 1st jan 2021 - zero
Eu 27 - 1st jan 2021 - 2018 proposal still to be discussed and voted (and obtain unanimous agreement from 27 members) - possible timeframe - 2022
Why are they taking so long to agree and implement something so simple?
"Taxation issues are never simple , that’s why we employ accountants.. It could have been moved on much more swiftly if resources had not been diverted to let’s say Brexit for example .. The workings of any large organisation are always slow in comparison to you or I buying grocery’s for example .. Brexit alone took almost 5 years and no doubt there will be many more hours spent tweaking and changing .. I’ve got to deal with council today over business rates , that’s been going on for 9 months , on something which I believe is a simple matter .. | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this.
Ireland has zero vat rating as it implemented this rate before the EU deemed such items as "luxury" and therefore vatable.
David Cameron asked the EU Commision for reform in 2016. The EU did indeed put forward proposals in 2018 but they were not acted on. Therefore the 5% rate stood.
German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831
But guess who voted against it???
No, Germany hasn't abolished it.
It reduced the VAT rate down from 19% to 7%.
Ok fair enough, Ireland?
And what about the Vote in 2015, who voted against it?
You’re claim is factually incorrect
https://fullfact.org/economy/did-mps-vote-against-removing-tampon-tax/
It's not factually incorrect though is it? They voted against a roadmap, they voted to nothing about it.
So say that... and don’t fudge the facts to suit your narrative
Hence David Cameron asking the EU Commision to do something about it in 2016.
Proposals published by the EuC in 2018. Possible push by the EuP in late 2021/early 2022 to get it into legislation.
Then the other 27 EU nations can follow the more progressive 17ish countries and zero rate.
It doesn't excuse the fact they voted against the proposal in 2015.
Yes- we went one better and said “why the hell should we have to seek the approval of 27 other nations in order to adjust a tax rate “
U.K. - 1st jan 2021 - zero
Eu 27 - 1st jan 2021 - 2018 proposal still to be discussed and voted (and obtain unanimous agreement from 27 members) - possible timeframe - 2022
Why are they taking so long to agree and implement something so simple?
Can you point out where I fudged the facts please?
Also, Why did they vote to do nothing in 2015. You haven't answered that!
Check your own posts
They didn’t do nothing - they pushed ahead to try and get the other Eu27 on board - the fullfact link explains the position perfectly well
.. and still they are talking about it - possibly being implemented - if everyone agrees - by 2022.
U.K. - first opportunity - done it
No, where did I post fudged facts please identify and post, doing it now doesn't excuse doing nothing in 2015, Johnson et all voted against."What is it you think they were not voting for in 2015... | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this.
Ireland has zero vat rating as it implemented this rate before the EU deemed such items as "luxury" and therefore vatable.
David Cameron asked the EU Commision for reform in 2016. The EU did indeed put forward proposals in 2018 but they were not acted on. Therefore the 5% rate stood.
German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831
But guess who voted against it???
No, Germany hasn't abolished it.
It reduced the VAT rate down from 19% to 7%.
Ok fair enough, Ireland?
And what about the Vote in 2015, who voted against it?
You’re claim is factually incorrect
https://fullfact.org/economy/did-mps-vote-against-removing-tampon-tax/
It's not factually incorrect though is it? They voted against a roadmap, they voted to nothing about it.
So say that... and don’t fudge the facts to suit your narrative
Hence David Cameron asking the EU Commision to do something about it in 2016.
Proposals published by the EuC in 2018. Possible push by the EuP in late 2021/early 2022 to get it into legislation.
Then the other 27 EU nations can follow the more progressive 17ish countries and zero rate.
It doesn't excuse the fact they voted against the proposal in 2015.
Yes- we went one better and said “why the hell should we have to seek the approval of 27 other nations in order to adjust a tax rate “
U.K. - 1st jan 2021 - zero
Eu 27 - 1st jan 2021 - 2018 proposal still to be discussed and voted (and obtain unanimous agreement from 27 members) - possible timeframe - 2022
Why are they taking so long to agree and implement something so simple?
Can you point out where I fudged the facts please?
Also, Why did they vote to do nothing in 2015. You haven't answered that!
Check your own posts
They didn’t do nothing - they pushed ahead to try and get the other Eu27 on board - the fullfact link explains the position perfectly well
.. and still they are talking about it - possibly being implemented - if everyone agrees - by 2022.
U.K. - first opportunity - done it
No, where did I post fudged facts please identify and post, doing it now doesn't excuse doing nothing in 2015, Johnson et all voted against.
What is it you think they were not voting for in 2015... "That was answered in the BBC link I posted at the time! did you read that? | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this.
Ireland has zero vat rating as it implemented this rate before the EU deemed such items as "luxury" and therefore vatable.
David Cameron asked the EU Commision for reform in 2016. The EU did indeed put forward proposals in 2018 but they were not acted on. Therefore the 5% rate stood.
German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831
But guess who voted against it???
No, Germany hasn't abolished it.
It reduced the VAT rate down from 19% to 7%.
Ok fair enough, Ireland?
And what about the Vote in 2015, who voted against it?
You’re claim is factually incorrect
https://fullfact.org/economy/did-mps-vote-against-removing-tampon-tax/
It's not factually incorrect though is it? They voted against a roadmap, they voted to nothing about it.
So say that... and don’t fudge the facts to suit your narrative
Hence David Cameron asking the EU Commision to do something about it in 2016.
Proposals published by the EuC in 2018. Possible push by the EuP in late 2021/early 2022 to get it into legislation.
Then the other 27 EU nations can follow the more progressive 17ish countries and zero rate.
It doesn't excuse the fact they voted against the proposal in 2015.
Yes- we went one better and said “why the hell should we have to seek the approval of 27 other nations in order to adjust a tax rate “
U.K. - 1st jan 2021 - zero
Eu 27 - 1st jan 2021 - 2018 proposal still to be discussed and voted (and obtain unanimous agreement from 27 members) - possible timeframe - 2022
Why are they taking so long to agree and implement something so simple?
Can you point out where I fudged the facts please?
Also, Why did they vote to do nothing in 2015. You haven't answered that!
Check your own posts
They didn’t do nothing - they pushed ahead to try and get the other Eu27 on board - the fullfact link explains the position perfectly well
.. and still they are talking about it - possibly being implemented - if everyone agrees - by 2022.
U.K. - first opportunity - done it
No, where did I post fudged facts please identify and post, doing it now doesn't excuse doing nothing in 2015, Johnson et all voted against.
What is it you think they were not voting for in 2015...
That was answered in the BBC link I posted at the time! did you read that?"Did you read it in full, or only the headline ? Have you read in full the fullfact link? | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this.
Ireland has zero vat rating as it implemented this rate before the EU deemed such items as "luxury" and therefore vatable.
David Cameron asked the EU Commision for reform in 2016. The EU did indeed put forward proposals in 2018 but they were not acted on. Therefore the 5% rate stood.
German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831
But guess who voted against it???
No, Germany hasn't abolished it.
It reduced the VAT rate down from 19% to 7%.
Ok fair enough, Ireland?
And what about the Vote in 2015, who voted against it?
You’re claim is factually incorrect
https://fullfact.org/economy/did-mps-vote-against-removing-tampon-tax/
It's not factually incorrect though is it? They voted against a roadmap, they voted to nothing about it.
So say that... and don’t fudge the facts to suit your narrative
Hence David Cameron asking the EU Commision to do something about it in 2016.
Proposals published by the EuC in 2018. Possible push by the EuP in late 2021/early 2022 to get it into legislation.
Then the other 27 EU nations can follow the more progressive 17ish countries and zero rate.
It doesn't excuse the fact they voted against the proposal in 2015.
Yes- we went one better and said “why the hell should we have to seek the approval of 27 other nations in order to adjust a tax rate “
U.K. - 1st jan 2021 - zero
Eu 27 - 1st jan 2021 - 2018 proposal still to be discussed and voted (and obtain unanimous agreement from 27 members) - possible timeframe - 2022
Why are they taking so long to agree and implement something so simple?
Can you point out where I fudged the facts please?
Also, Why did they vote to do nothing in 2015. You haven't answered that!
Check your own posts
They didn’t do nothing - they pushed ahead to try and get the other Eu27 on board - the fullfact link explains the position perfectly well
.. and still they are talking about it - possibly being implemented - if everyone agrees - by 2022.
U.K. - first opportunity - done it
No, where did I post fudged facts please identify and post, doing it now doesn't excuse doing nothing in 2015, Johnson et all voted against.
What is it you think they were not voting for in 2015...
That was answered in the BBC link I posted at the time! did you read that?
Did you read it in full, or only the headline ?
Have you read in full the fullfact link?
"Yes, I was aware of both at the time, this is why I posted it. did you read it? Please explain how I fudged facts! A simple answer or apologise! | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this.
Ireland has zero vat rating as it implemented this rate before the EU deemed such items as "luxury" and therefore vatable.
David Cameron asked the EU Commision for reform in 2016. The EU did indeed put forward proposals in 2018 but they were not acted on. Therefore the 5% rate stood.
German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831
But guess who voted against it???
No, Germany hasn't abolished it.
It reduced the VAT rate down from 19% to 7%.
Ok fair enough, Ireland?
And what about the Vote in 2015, who voted against it?
You’re claim is factually incorrect
https://fullfact.org/economy/did-mps-vote-against-removing-tampon-tax/
It's not factually incorrect though is it? They voted against a roadmap, they voted to nothing about it.
So say that... and don’t fudge the facts to suit your narrative
Hence David Cameron asking the EU Commision to do something about it in 2016.
Proposals published by the EuC in 2018. Possible push by the EuP in late 2021/early 2022 to get it into legislation.
Then the other 27 EU nations can follow the more progressive 17ish countries and zero rate.
It doesn't excuse the fact they voted against the proposal in 2015.
Yes- we went one better and said “why the hell should we have to seek the approval of 27 other nations in order to adjust a tax rate “
U.K. - 1st jan 2021 - zero
Eu 27 - 1st jan 2021 - 2018 proposal still to be discussed and voted (and obtain unanimous agreement from 27 members) - possible timeframe - 2022
Why are they taking so long to agree and implement something so simple?
Can you point out where I fudged the facts please?
Also, Why did they vote to do nothing in 2015. You haven't answered that!
Check your own posts
They didn’t do nothing - they pushed ahead to try and get the other Eu27 on board - the fullfact link explains the position perfectly well
.. and still they are talking about it - possibly being implemented - if everyone agrees - by 2022.
U.K. - first opportunity - done it
No, where did I post fudged facts please identify and post, doing it now doesn't excuse doing nothing in 2015, Johnson et all voted against.
What is it you think they were not voting for in 2015...
That was answered in the BBC link I posted at the time! did you read that?
Did you read it in full, or only the headline ?
Have you read in full the fullfact link?
Yes, I was aware of both at the time, this is why I posted it. did you read it? Please explain how I fudged facts!
A simple answer or apologise!"What is it you think Germany abolished? | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this.
Ireland has zero vat rating as it implemented this rate before the EU deemed such items as "luxury" and therefore vatable.
David Cameron asked the EU Commision for reform in 2016. The EU did indeed put forward proposals in 2018 but they were not acted on. Therefore the 5% rate stood.
German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831
But guess who voted against it???
No, Germany hasn't abolished it.
It reduced the VAT rate down from 19% to 7%.
Ok fair enough, Ireland?
And what about the Vote in 2015, who voted against it?
You’re claim is factually incorrect
https://fullfact.org/economy/did-mps-vote-against-removing-tampon-tax/
It's not factually incorrect though is it? They voted against a roadmap, they voted to nothing about it.
So say that... and don’t fudge the facts to suit your narrative
Hence David Cameron asking the EU Commision to do something about it in 2016.
Proposals published by the EuC in 2018. Possible push by the EuP in late 2021/early 2022 to get it into legislation.
Then the other 27 EU nations can follow the more progressive 17ish countries and zero rate.
It doesn't excuse the fact they voted against the proposal in 2015.
Yes- we went one better and said “why the hell should we have to seek the approval of 27 other nations in order to adjust a tax rate “
U.K. - 1st jan 2021 - zero
Eu 27 - 1st jan 2021 - 2018 proposal still to be discussed and voted (and obtain unanimous agreement from 27 members) - possible timeframe - 2022
Why are they taking so long to agree and implement something so simple?
Can you point out where I fudged the facts please?
Also, Why did they vote to do nothing in 2015. You haven't answered that!
Check your own posts
They didn’t do nothing - they pushed ahead to try and get the other Eu27 on board - the fullfact link explains the position perfectly well
.. and still they are talking about it - possibly being implemented - if everyone agrees - by 2022.
U.K. - first opportunity - done it
No, where did I post fudged facts please identify and post, doing it now doesn't excuse doing nothing in 2015, Johnson et all voted against.
What is it you think they were not voting for in 2015...
That was answered in the BBC link I posted at the time! did you read that?
Did you read it in full, or only the headline ?
Have you read in full the fullfact link?
Yes, I was aware of both at the time, this is why I posted it. did you read it? Please explain how I fudged facts!
A simple answer or apologise!
What is it you think Germany abolished?"Someone pointed out I was wrong about that, and I accept but that is not relevant to the point you are making. Where did I fudge the facts? It maybe be the way you are reading it? The BBC article I posted clearly defined what was voted for and the Tories voted against it. The Full fact article you posted answered a different question. | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this.
Ireland has zero vat rating as it implemented this rate before the EU deemed such items as "luxury" and therefore vatable.
David Cameron asked the EU Commision for reform in 2016. The EU did indeed put forward proposals in 2018 but they were not acted on. Therefore the 5% rate stood.
German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831
But guess who voted against it???
No, Germany hasn't abolished it.
It reduced the VAT rate down from 19% to 7%.
Ok fair enough, Ireland?
And what about the Vote in 2015, who voted against it?
You’re claim is factually incorrect
https://fullfact.org/economy/did-mps-vote-against-removing-tampon-tax/
It's not factually incorrect though is it? They voted against a roadmap, they voted to nothing about it.
So say that... and don’t fudge the facts to suit your narrative
Hence David Cameron asking the EU Commision to do something about it in 2016.
Proposals published by the EuC in 2018. Possible push by the EuP in late 2021/early 2022 to get it into legislation.
Then the other 27 EU nations can follow the more progressive 17ish countries and zero rate.
It doesn't excuse the fact they voted against the proposal in 2015.
Yes- we went one better and said “why the hell should we have to seek the approval of 27 other nations in order to adjust a tax rate “
U.K. - 1st jan 2021 - zero
Eu 27 - 1st jan 2021 - 2018 proposal still to be discussed and voted (and obtain unanimous agreement from 27 members) - possible timeframe - 2022
Why are they taking so long to agree and implement something so simple?
Can you point out where I fudged the facts please?
Also, Why did they vote to do nothing in 2015. You haven't answered that!
Check your own posts
They didn’t do nothing - they pushed ahead to try and get the other Eu27 on board - the fullfact link explains the position perfectly well
.. and still they are talking about it - possibly being implemented - if everyone agrees - by 2022.
U.K. - first opportunity - done it
No, where did I post fudged facts please identify and post, doing it now doesn't excuse doing nothing in 2015, Johnson et all voted against.
What is it you think they were not voting for in 2015...
That was answered in the BBC link I posted at the time! did you read that?
Did you read it in full, or only the headline ?
Have you read in full the fullfact link?
Yes, I was aware of both at the time, this is why I posted it. did you read it? Please explain how I fudged facts!
A simple answer or apologise!
What is it you think Germany abolished?
Someone pointed out I was wrong about that, and I accept but that is not relevant to the point you are making.
Where did I fudge the facts? It maybe be the way you are reading it? The BBC article I posted clearly defined what was voted for and the Tories voted against it.
The Full fact article you posted answered a different question."You posted “ German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831 But guess who voted against it???” What is it you think Germany abolished ? which in the same post attempted to strengthen your narrative by linking a BBC story with headline “ MPs reject 'tampon tax' challenge in Commons vote” and stating “guess who voted against it???” | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this.
Ireland has zero vat rating as it implemented this rate before the EU deemed such items as "luxury" and therefore vatable.
David Cameron asked the EU Commision for reform in 2016. The EU did indeed put forward proposals in 2018 but they were not acted on. Therefore the 5% rate stood.
German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831
But guess who voted against it???
No, Germany hasn't abolished it.
It reduced the VAT rate down from 19% to 7%.
Ok fair enough, Ireland?
And what about the Vote in 2015, who voted against it?
You’re claim is factually incorrect
https://fullfact.org/economy/did-mps-vote-against-removing-tampon-tax/
It's not factually incorrect though is it? They voted against a roadmap, they voted to nothing about it.
So say that... and don’t fudge the facts to suit your narrative
Hence David Cameron asking the EU Commision to do something about it in 2016.
Proposals published by the EuC in 2018. Possible push by the EuP in late 2021/early 2022 to get it into legislation.
Then the other 27 EU nations can follow the more progressive 17ish countries and zero rate.
It doesn't excuse the fact they voted against the proposal in 2015.
Yes- we went one better and said “why the hell should we have to seek the approval of 27 other nations in order to adjust a tax rate “
U.K. - 1st jan 2021 - zero
Eu 27 - 1st jan 2021 - 2018 proposal still to be discussed and voted (and obtain unanimous agreement from 27 members) - possible timeframe - 2022
Why are they taking so long to agree and implement something so simple?
Can you point out where I fudged the facts please?
Also, Why did they vote to do nothing in 2015. You haven't answered that!
Check your own posts
They didn’t do nothing - they pushed ahead to try and get the other Eu27 on board - the fullfact link explains the position perfectly well
.. and still they are talking about it - possibly being implemented - if everyone agrees - by 2022.
U.K. - first opportunity - done it
No, where did I post fudged facts please identify and post, doing it now doesn't excuse doing nothing in 2015, Johnson et all voted against.
What is it you think they were not voting for in 2015...
That was answered in the BBC link I posted at the time! did you read that?
Did you read it in full, or only the headline ?
Have you read in full the fullfact link?
Yes, I was aware of both at the time, this is why I posted it. did you read it? Please explain how I fudged facts!
A simple answer or apologise!
What is it you think Germany abolished?
Someone pointed out I was wrong about that, and I accept but that is not relevant to the point you are making.
Where did I fudge the facts? It maybe be the way you are reading it? The BBC article I posted clearly defined what was voted for and the Tories voted against it.
The Full fact article you posted answered a different question.
You posted “ German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831
But guess who voted against it???”
What is it you think Germany abolished ? which in the same post attempted to strengthen your narrative by linking a BBC story with headline “ MPs reject 'tampon tax' challenge in Commons vote” and stating “guess who voted against it???”
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And if it's an evident disaster? What then? "Life is experiential, we live, we experience, we adapt, we change. But we have had just 4 days - the sky isn't falling yet. | |||
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"You can go on complaining about Brexit forever - but there it is and here we are OUT of the EU.
And if it's an evident disaster? What then?
Life is experiential, we live, we experience, we adapt, we change.
But we have had just 4 days - the sky isn't falling yet.
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"You can go on complaining about Brexit forever - but there it is and here we are OUT of the EU.
And if it's an evident disaster? What then?
Life is experiential, we live, we experience, we adapt, we change.
But we have had just 4 days - the sky isn't falling yet.
But adapting to worse conditions that are avoidable, it seems almost idiotic!"Exactly. People keep saying stuff like that. It's like getting told to make the most of being kicked in the face. "It's happened, get over it" "Be positive and make the most of it" "The sky isn't falling in" And then we're expected not to complain about the people who voted for us to be kicked in the face. | |||
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"You can go on complaining about Brexit forever - but there it is and here we are OUT of the EU.
And if it's an evident disaster? What then?
Life is experiential, we live, we experience, we adapt, we change.
But we have had just 4 days - the sky isn't falling yet.
But adapting to worse conditions that are avoidable, it seems almost idiotic!"You believe them to be - just as many don't. In fact more don't because more voted to leave than stay. | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this.
Ireland has zero vat rating as it implemented this rate before the EU deemed such items as "luxury" and therefore vatable.
David Cameron asked the EU Commision for reform in 2016. The EU did indeed put forward proposals in 2018 but they were not acted on. Therefore the 5% rate stood.
German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831
But guess who voted against it???
No, Germany hasn't abolished it.
It reduced the VAT rate down from 19% to 7%.
Ok fair enough, Ireland?
And what about the Vote in 2015, who voted against it?
You’re claim is factually incorrect
https://fullfact.org/economy/did-mps-vote-against-removing-tampon-tax/
It's not factually incorrect though is it? They voted against a roadmap, they voted to nothing about it.
So say that... and don’t fudge the facts to suit your narrative
Hence David Cameron asking the EU Commision to do something about it in 2016.
Proposals published by the EuC in 2018. Possible push by the EuP in late 2021/early 2022 to get it into legislation.
Then the other 27 EU nations can follow the more progressive 17ish countries and zero rate.
It doesn't excuse the fact they voted against the proposal in 2015.
Yes- we went one better and said “why the hell should we have to seek the approval of 27 other nations in order to adjust a tax rate “
U.K. - 1st jan 2021 - zero
Eu 27 - 1st jan 2021 - 2018 proposal still to be discussed and voted (and obtain unanimous agreement from 27 members) - possible timeframe - 2022
Why are they taking so long to agree and implement something so simple?
Can you point out where I fudged the facts please?
Also, Why did they vote to do nothing in 2015. You haven't answered that!
Check your own posts
They didn’t do nothing - they pushed ahead to try and get the other Eu27 on board - the fullfact link explains the position perfectly well
.. and still they are talking about it - possibly being implemented - if everyone agrees - by 2022.
U.K. - first opportunity - done it
No, where did I post fudged facts please identify and post, doing it now doesn't excuse doing nothing in 2015, Johnson et all voted against.
What is it you think they were not voting for in 2015...
That was answered in the BBC link I posted at the time! did you read that?
Did you read it in full, or only the headline ?
Have you read in full the fullfact link?
Yes, I was aware of both at the time, this is why I posted it. did you read it? Please explain how I fudged facts!
A simple answer or apologise!
What is it you think Germany abolished?
Someone pointed out I was wrong about that, and I accept but that is not relevant to the point you are making.
Where did I fudge the facts? It maybe be the way you are reading it? The BBC article I posted clearly defined what was voted for and the Tories voted against it.
The Full fact article you posted answered a different question.
You posted “ German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831
But guess who voted against it???”
What is it you think Germany abolished ? which in the same post attempted to strengthen your narrative by linking a BBC story with headline “ MPs reject 'tampon tax' challenge in Commons vote” and stating “guess who voted against it???”
Like I said the BBC link explained, you didn't read apart from the headline that's not my problem.
Note I put "could have tried."
It's your reading of it.
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this.
Ireland has zero vat rating as it implemented this rate before the EU deemed such items as "luxury" and therefore vatable.
David Cameron asked the EU Commision for reform in 2016. The EU did indeed put forward proposals in 2018 but they were not acted on. Therefore the 5% rate stood.
German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831
But guess who voted against it???
No, Germany hasn't abolished it.
It reduced the VAT rate down from 19% to 7%.
Ok fair enough, Ireland?
And what about the Vote in 2015, who voted against it?
You’re claim is factually incorrect
https://fullfact.org/economy/did-mps-vote-against-removing-tampon-tax/
It's not factually incorrect though is it? They voted against a roadmap, they voted to nothing about it.
So say that... and don’t fudge the facts to suit your narrative
Hence David Cameron asking the EU Commision to do something about it in 2016.
Proposals published by the EuC in 2018. Possible push by the EuP in late 2021/early 2022 to get it into legislation.
Then the other 27 EU nations can follow the more progressive 17ish countries and zero rate.
It doesn't excuse the fact they voted against the proposal in 2015.
Yes- we went one better and said “why the hell should we have to seek the approval of 27 other nations in order to adjust a tax rate “
U.K. - 1st jan 2021 - zero
Eu 27 - 1st jan 2021 - 2018 proposal still to be discussed and voted (and obtain unanimous agreement from 27 members) - possible timeframe - 2022
Why are they taking so long to agree and implement something so simple?
Can you point out where I fudged the facts please?
Also, Why did they vote to do nothing in 2015. You haven't answered that!
Check your own posts
They didn’t do nothing - they pushed ahead to try and get the other Eu27 on board - the fullfact link explains the position perfectly well
.. and still they are talking about it - possibly being implemented - if everyone agrees - by 2022.
U.K. - first opportunity - done it
No, where did I post fudged facts please identify and post, doing it now doesn't excuse doing nothing in 2015, Johnson et all voted against.
What is it you think they were not voting for in 2015...
That was answered in the BBC link I posted at the time! did you read that?
Did you read it in full, or only the headline ?
Have you read in full the fullfact link?
Yes, I was aware of both at the time, this is why I posted it. did you read it? Please explain how I fudged facts!
A simple answer or apologise!
What is it you think Germany abolished?
Someone pointed out I was wrong about that, and I accept but that is not relevant to the point you are making.
Where did I fudge the facts? It maybe be the way you are reading it? The BBC article I posted clearly defined what was voted for and the Tories voted against it.
The Full fact article you posted answered a different question.
You posted “ German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831
But guess who voted against it???”
What is it you think Germany abolished ? which in the same post attempted to strengthen your narrative by linking a BBC story with headline “ MPs reject 'tampon tax' challenge in Commons vote” and stating “guess who voted against it???”
Like I said the BBC link explained, you didn't read apart from the headline that's not my problem.
Note I put "could have tried."
It's your reading of it.
One last time - what did you think Germany abolished ?"Addressed this above, I was wrong on that point happy to admit it, It's the way you've read and not looked at the link that's the problem. "Could have tried." What was the proposal trying to do? | |||
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"You can go on complaining about Brexit forever - but there it is and here we are OUT of the EU.
And if it's an evident disaster? What then?
Life is experiential, we live, we experience, we adapt, we change.
But we have had just 4 days - the sky isn't falling yet.
But adapting to worse conditions that are avoidable, it seems almost idiotic!
Exactly. People keep saying stuff like that.
It's like getting told to make the most of being kicked in the face.
"It's happened, get over it"
"Be positive and make the most of it"
"The sky isn't falling in"
And then we're expected not to complain about the people who voted for us to be kicked in the face."complain away cry stamp ya feet shout brexshitters unicorns idiots shout louder and louder now tell us what does that do for your mental health 4yrs of doing this can’t be good for you surely to god do you complain in reall life not just on fab about Brecht ? | |||
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"You can go on complaining about Brexit forever - but there it is and here we are OUT of the EU.
And if it's an evident disaster? What then?
Life is experiential, we live, we experience, we adapt, we change.
But we have had just 4 days - the sky isn't falling yet.
But adapting to worse conditions that are avoidable, it seems almost idiotic!
Exactly. People keep saying stuff like that.
It's like getting told to make the most of being kicked in the face.
"It's happened, get over it"
"Be positive and make the most of it"
"The sky isn't falling in"
And then we're expected not to complain about the people who voted for us to be kicked in the face.complain away cry stamp ya feet shout brexshitters unicorns idiots shout louder and louder now tell us what does that do for your mental health 4yrs of doing this can’t be good for you surely to god do you complain in reall life not just on fab about Brecht ?"You post more than I do, and I suspect for a lot longer than I have. | |||
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"You can go on complaining about Brexit forever - but there it is and here we are OUT of the EU.
And if it's an evident disaster? What then?
Life is experiential, we live, we experience, we adapt, we change.
But we have had just 4 days - the sky isn't falling yet.
But adapting to worse conditions that are avoidable, it seems almost idiotic!
Exactly. People keep saying stuff like that.
It's like getting told to make the most of being kicked in the face.
"It's happened, get over it"
"Be positive and make the most of it"
"The sky isn't falling in"
And then we're expected not to complain about the people who voted for us to be kicked in the face.complain away cry stamp ya feet shout brexshitters unicorns idiots shout louder and louder now tell us what does that do for your mental health 4yrs of doing this can’t be good for you surely to god do you complain in reall life not just on fab about Brecht ?
You post more than I do, and I suspect for a lot longer than I have."yes but I wasn’t talking to you sweety | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this.
Ireland has zero vat rating as it implemented this rate before the EU deemed such items as "luxury" and therefore vatable.
David Cameron asked the EU Commision for reform in 2016. The EU did indeed put forward proposals in 2018 but they were not acted on. Therefore the 5% rate stood.
German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831
But guess who voted against it???
No, Germany hasn't abolished it.
It reduced the VAT rate down from 19% to 7%.
Ok fair enough, Ireland?
And what about the Vote in 2015, who voted against it?
You’re claim is factually incorrect
https://fullfact.org/economy/did-mps-vote-against-removing-tampon-tax/
It's not factually incorrect though is it? They voted against a roadmap, they voted to nothing about it.
So say that... and don’t fudge the facts to suit your narrative
Hence David Cameron asking the EU Commision to do something about it in 2016.
Proposals published by the EuC in 2018. Possible push by the EuP in late 2021/early 2022 to get it into legislation.
Then the other 27 EU nations can follow the more progressive 17ish countries and zero rate.
It doesn't excuse the fact they voted against the proposal in 2015.
Yes- we went one better and said “why the hell should we have to seek the approval of 27 other nations in order to adjust a tax rate “
U.K. - 1st jan 2021 - zero
Eu 27 - 1st jan 2021 - 2018 proposal still to be discussed and voted (and obtain unanimous agreement from 27 members) - possible timeframe - 2022
Why are they taking so long to agree and implement something so simple?
Can you point out where I fudged the facts please?
Also, Why did they vote to do nothing in 2015. You haven't answered that!
Check your own posts
They didn’t do nothing - they pushed ahead to try and get the other Eu27 on board - the fullfact link explains the position perfectly well
.. and still they are talking about it - possibly being implemented - if everyone agrees - by 2022.
U.K. - first opportunity - done it
No, where did I post fudged facts please identify and post, doing it now doesn't excuse doing nothing in 2015, Johnson et all voted against.
What is it you think they were not voting for in 2015...
That was answered in the BBC link I posted at the time! did you read that?
Did you read it in full, or only the headline ?
Have you read in full the fullfact link?
Yes, I was aware of both at the time, this is why I posted it. did you read it? Please explain how I fudged facts!
A simple answer or apologise!
What is it you think Germany abolished?
Someone pointed out I was wrong about that, and I accept but that is not relevant to the point you are making.
Where did I fudge the facts? It maybe be the way you are reading it? The BBC article I posted clearly defined what was voted for and the Tories voted against it.
The Full fact article you posted answered a different question.
You posted “ German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831
But guess who voted against it???”
What is it you think Germany abolished ? which in the same post attempted to strengthen your narrative by linking a BBC story with headline “ MPs reject 'tampon tax' challenge in Commons vote” and stating “guess who voted against it???”
Like I said the BBC link explained, you didn't read apart from the headline that's not my problem.
Note I put "could have tried."
It's your reading of it.
One last time - what did you think Germany abolished ?
Addressed this above, I was wrong on that point happy to admit it, It's the way you've read and not looked at the link that's the problem. "Could have tried."
What was the proposal trying to do?
"Strange for you to think Germany abolished vat on sanitary products - seems like you fudged the facts . Anyway you now must know that after all these semantics the real benefit here is that the U.K. can make immediate decisions in situations like this and consequently has zero rated the products. The eu27 can only wait while they all talk about it some more and then have a vote where they all hopefully agree unanimously for the ability to make the rate zero in their own countries . | |||
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"I randomly chose: On their Country websites . . . Adidas France. Nike Germany. L'Oreal Paris. MaisonDuMonde. And they all allow me to pick and checkout and place a UK address for delivery. Maison actually have on their website "There will be no customs fees for UK customers after the UK’s transition period ends on 31/12/20." Maybe VAT if not customs fees Huh? We already pay VAT
And remember that VAT was an EU imposed tax that the EU require member nations to add.
15% vat to make it a level playing field across the EU so everyone has a basic tax pool yet for reasons unknown the uk has always been more at 21%
UK normal vat rate us 20%. It went upto that from 17.5% a few years ago (financial banking crisis time?)
A small brexit benefit is the abolition of vat on women's sanitary products.
Funny enough I’ve just been reading about the sanitary products and it’s a bit of a Brexit bonus myth .. Johnson’s using them to rah rah the public on . The others are something about a type of fishing and free ports , I will try to find the link but they are both bullshit .
The sanitary issue or the tampon tax as it’s lovingly named could have always been changed by moving the product from luxury to necessity or something ..
it’s been a bit of a hot spud since 2009 .. even back to labour .. nought really to do with the EU
Oh not really a brexit benifet then.
Nah . The government has been saving them up in a sort of back pack and will now of course deliver them to the public when they need to ,, that’s politics eh
I did wonder why the some dimwits left bringing up the tampon thing I never bothered investigating but it is intresting we could have adjusted the tax ourselves, it just shows how the express and the fail have manipulated the brexit sheep.
EU regulations meant that we could not abolish VAT on women's sanitary products. We reduced it to the lowest rate that we could,, at 5%.
Now that we have left, we have abolished it. Campaigners are delighted.
I find it strange the someone who has repeatedly claimed that "brexit has cost me sales to the EU" is so ignorant of the VAT rules.
Ireland also a member has zero rates on tampons. Just saying. The Eu put forwards proposals to reform the vat on such items on 2018 giving the non binding nod to countries to abolish it, we didn’t need Brexit for this.
Ireland has zero vat rating as it implemented this rate before the EU deemed such items as "luxury" and therefore vatable.
David Cameron asked the EU Commision for reform in 2016. The EU did indeed put forward proposals in 2018 but they were not acted on. Therefore the 5% rate stood.
German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831
But guess who voted against it???
No, Germany hasn't abolished it.
It reduced the VAT rate down from 19% to 7%.
Ok fair enough, Ireland?
And what about the Vote in 2015, who voted against it?
You’re claim is factually incorrect
https://fullfact.org/economy/did-mps-vote-against-removing-tampon-tax/
It's not factually incorrect though is it? They voted against a roadmap, they voted to nothing about it.
So say that... and don’t fudge the facts to suit your narrative
Hence David Cameron asking the EU Commision to do something about it in 2016.
Proposals published by the EuC in 2018. Possible push by the EuP in late 2021/early 2022 to get it into legislation.
Then the other 27 EU nations can follow the more progressive 17ish countries and zero rate.
It doesn't excuse the fact they voted against the proposal in 2015.
Yes- we went one better and said “why the hell should we have to seek the approval of 27 other nations in order to adjust a tax rate “
U.K. - 1st jan 2021 - zero
Eu 27 - 1st jan 2021 - 2018 proposal still to be discussed and voted (and obtain unanimous agreement from 27 members) - possible timeframe - 2022
Why are they taking so long to agree and implement something so simple?
Can you point out where I fudged the facts please?
Also, Why did they vote to do nothing in 2015. You haven't answered that!
Check your own posts
They didn’t do nothing - they pushed ahead to try and get the other Eu27 on board - the fullfact link explains the position perfectly well
.. and still they are talking about it - possibly being implemented - if everyone agrees - by 2022.
U.K. - first opportunity - done it
No, where did I post fudged facts please identify and post, doing it now doesn't excuse doing nothing in 2015, Johnson et all voted against.
What is it you think they were not voting for in 2015...
That was answered in the BBC link I posted at the time! did you read that?
Did you read it in full, or only the headline ?
Have you read in full the fullfact link?
Yes, I was aware of both at the time, this is why I posted it. did you read it? Please explain how I fudged facts!
A simple answer or apologise!
What is it you think Germany abolished?
Someone pointed out I was wrong about that, and I accept but that is not relevant to the point you are making.
Where did I fudge the facts? It maybe be the way you are reading it? The BBC article I posted clearly defined what was voted for and the Tories voted against it.
The Full fact article you posted answered a different question.
You posted “ German also abolished this in the EU in November, We could have tried to do this to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34638831
But guess who voted against it???”
What is it you think Germany abolished ? which in the same post attempted to strengthen your narrative by linking a BBC story with headline “ MPs reject 'tampon tax' challenge in Commons vote” and stating “guess who voted against it???”
Like I said the BBC link explained, you didn't read apart from the headline that's not my problem.
Note I put "could have tried."
It's your reading of it.
One last time - what did you think Germany abolished ?
Addressed this above, I was wrong on that point happy to admit it, It's the way you've read and not looked at the link that's the problem. "Could have tried."
What was the proposal trying to do?
Strange for you to think Germany abolished vat on sanitary products - seems like you fudged the facts .
Anyway you now must know that after all these semantics the real benefit here is that the U.K. can make immediate decisions in situations like this and consequently has zero rated the products. The eu27 can only wait while they all talk about it some more and then have a vote where they all hopefully agree unanimously for the ability to make the rate zero in their own countries .
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And if it's an evident disaster? What then?
Life is experiential, we live, we experience, we adapt, we change.
But we have had just 4 days - the sky isn't falling yet.
But adapting to worse conditions that are avoidable, it seems almost idiotic!
Exactly. People keep saying stuff like that.
It's like getting told to make the most of being kicked in the face.
"It's happened, get over it"
"Be positive and make the most of it"
"The sky isn't falling in"
And then we're expected not to complain about the people who voted for us to be kicked in the face.complain away cry stamp ya feet shout brexshitters unicorns idiots shout louder and louder now tell us what does that do for your mental health 4yrs of doing this can’t be good for you surely to god do you complain in reall life not just on fab about Brecht ?"Better than burying your head in the sand and pretending everything is dandy. | |||
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"You can go on complaining about Brexit forever - but there it is and here we are OUT of the EU.
And if it's an evident disaster? What then?
Life is experiential, we live, we experience, we adapt, we change.
But we have had just 4 days - the sky isn't falling yet.
But adapting to worse conditions that are avoidable, it seems almost idiotic!
Exactly. People keep saying stuff like that.
It's like getting told to make the most of being kicked in the face.
"It's happened, get over it"
"Be positive and make the most of it"
"The sky isn't falling in"
And then we're expected not to complain about the people who voted for us to be kicked in the face.complain away cry stamp ya feet shout brexshitters unicorns idiots shout louder and louder now tell us what does that do for your mental health 4yrs of doing this can’t be good for you surely to god do you complain in reall life not just on fab about Brecht ?"The number one complainer complaining about complainers.lol | |||
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"You can go on complaining about Brexit forever - but there it is and here we are OUT of the EU.
And if it's an evident disaster? What then?
Life is experiential, we live, we experience, we adapt, we change.
But we have had just 4 days - the sky isn't falling yet.
But adapting to worse conditions that are avoidable, it seems almost idiotic!
Exactly. People keep saying stuff like that.
It's like getting told to make the most of being kicked in the face.
"It's happened, get over it"
"Be positive and make the most of it"
"The sky isn't falling in"
And then we're expected not to complain about the people who voted for us to be kicked in the face.complain away cry stamp ya feet shout brexshitters unicorns idiots shout louder and louder now tell us what does that do for your mental health 4yrs of doing this can’t be good for you surely to god do you complain in reall life not just on fab about Brecht ?
The number one complainer complaining about complainers.lol"so what have I complained about before then ? | |||
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"You can go on complaining about Brexit forever - but there it is and here we are OUT of the EU.
And if it's an evident disaster? What then?
Life is experiential, we live, we experience, we adapt, we change.
But we have had just 4 days - the sky isn't falling yet.
But adapting to worse conditions that are avoidable, it seems almost idiotic!
Exactly. People keep saying stuff like that.
It's like getting told to make the most of being kicked in the face.
"It's happened, get over it"
"Be positive and make the most of it"
"The sky isn't falling in"
And then we're expected not to complain about the people who voted for us to be kicked in the face.complain away cry stamp ya feet shout brexshitters unicorns idiots shout louder and louder now tell us what does that do for your mental health 4yrs of doing this can’t be good for you surely to god do you complain in reall life not just on fab about Brecht ?
The number one complainer complaining about complainers.lolso what have I complained about before then ?"Tbf mate, you are always complaining about people who complain about Brexit  | |||
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And if it's an evident disaster? What then?
Life is experiential, we live, we experience, we adapt, we change.
But we have had just 4 days - the sky isn't falling yet.
But adapting to worse conditions that are avoidable, it seems almost idiotic!
Exactly. People keep saying stuff like that.
It's like getting told to make the most of being kicked in the face.
"It's happened, get over it"
"Be positive and make the most of it"
"The sky isn't falling in"
And then we're expected not to complain about the people who voted for us to be kicked in the face.complain away cry stamp ya feet shout brexshitters unicorns idiots shout louder and louder now tell us what does that do for your mental health 4yrs of doing this can’t be good for you surely to god do you complain in reall life not just on fab about Brecht ?
The number one complainer complaining about complainers.lolso what have I complained about before then ?
Tbf mate, you are always complaining about people who complain about Brexit "He's got you there.  | |||
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"You can go on complaining about Brexit forever - but there it is and here we are OUT of the EU.
And if it's an evident disaster? What then?
Life is experiential, we live, we experience, we adapt, we change.
But we have had just 4 days - the sky isn't falling yet.
But adapting to worse conditions that are avoidable, it seems almost idiotic!
Exactly. People keep saying stuff like that.
It's like getting told to make the most of being kicked in the face.
"It's happened, get over it"
"Be positive and make the most of it"
"The sky isn't falling in"
And then we're expected not to complain about the people who voted for us to be kicked in the face.complain away cry stamp ya feet shout brexshitters unicorns idiots shout louder and louder now tell us what does that do for your mental health 4yrs of doing this can’t be good for you surely to god do you complain in reall life not just on fab about Brecht ?
The number one complainer complaining about complainers.lolso what have I complained about before then ?"Brexit brexit brexit brexit brexit and oh yes brexit. | |||
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"You can go on complaining about Brexit forever - but there it is and here we are OUT of the EU.
And if it's an evident disaster? What then?
Life is experiential, we live, we experience, we adapt, we change.
But we have had just 4 days - the sky isn't falling yet.
But adapting to worse conditions that are avoidable, it seems almost idiotic!
Exactly. People keep saying stuff like that.
It's like getting told to make the most of being kicked in the face.
"It's happened, get over it"
"Be positive and make the most of it"
"The sky isn't falling in"
And then we're expected not to complain about the people who voted for us to be kicked in the face.complain away cry stamp ya feet shout brexshitters unicorns idiots shout louder and louder now tell us what does that do for your mental health 4yrs of doing this can’t be good for you surely to god do you complain in reall life not just on fab about Brecht ?
The number one complainer complaining about complainers.lolso what have I complained about before then ?
Tbf mate, you are always complaining about people who complain about Brexit
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"4 days in and most people have other things on their minds. It will take 5 years to see the consequences of brexit. No doubt some will benefit and some won't. The bit I dont understand is the desire to argue about what happened 5 years ago... Its done. We are where we are and all we can do is make the best of it. Or... As some people seem to want to do... Ensure it fails... But I wonder what anyone will gain from that? So we adapt, we suck it up and we get on with it. There is no mileage in cranking out the reasons why more people voted to leave than voted to remain. Its done. If people want to carry around the grudges they hold because they didn't like the outcome of the vote. Its going to make them very very unhappy. Should we end all forms of political dissent, draw a line under things and just give up trying? Maybe you're right we should leave those at the top of the pile completely unchallenged and free to do as they will." Who are you challenging here? | |||
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"4 days in and most people have other things on their minds. It will take 5 years to see the consequences of brexit. No doubt some will benefit and some won't. The bit I dont understand is the desire to argue about what happened 5 years ago... Its done. We are where we are and all we can do is make the best of it. Or... As some people seem to want to do... Ensure it fails... But I wonder what anyone will gain from that? So we adapt, we suck it up and we get on with it. There is no mileage in cranking out the reasons why more people voted to leave than voted to remain. Its done. If people want to carry around the grudges they hold because they didn't like the outcome of the vote. Its going to make them very very unhappy. Should we end all forms of political dissent, draw a line under things and just give up trying? Maybe you're right we should leave those at the top of the pile completely unchallenged and free to do as they will." Don’t forget , Brexiteers are now the establishment | |||
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"4 days in and most people have other things on their minds. It will take 5 years to see the consequences of brexit. No doubt some will benefit and some won't. The bit I dont understand is the desire to argue about what happened 5 years ago... Its done. We are where we are and all we can do is make the best of it. Or... As some people seem to want to do... Ensure it fails... But I wonder what anyone will gain from that? So we adapt, we suck it up and we get on with it. There is no mileage in cranking out the reasons why more people voted to leave than voted to remain. Its done. If people want to carry around the grudges they hold because they didn't like the outcome of the vote. Its going to make them very very unhappy. Should we end all forms of political dissent, draw a line under things and just give up trying? Maybe you're right we should leave those at the top of the pile completely unchallenged and free to do as they will." That's not what I said at all. So please don't put words into my mouth. We can only have a reasoned debate if people are reasonable. | |||
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"4 days in and most people have other things on their minds. It will take 5 years to see the consequences of brexit. No doubt some will benefit and some won't. The bit I dont understand is the desire to argue about what happened 5 years ago... Its done. We are where we are and all we can do is make the best of it. Or... As some people seem to want to do... Ensure it fails... But I wonder what anyone will gain from that? So we adapt, we suck it up and we get on with it. There is no mileage in cranking out the reasons why more people voted to leave than voted to remain. Its done. If people want to carry around the grudges they hold because they didn't like the outcome of the vote. Its going to make them very very unhappy. Should we end all forms of political dissent, draw a line under things and just give up trying? Maybe you're right we should leave those at the top of the pile completely unchallenged and free to do as they will. Don’t forget , Brexiteers are now the establishment "Don't forget "the establishment" were the Liberal political elite (clegg, Cameron, Blair et Al) who were so stupidly confident that the British voters wouldn't dare vote against them.... The irony in labelling the ones who voted to leave as " establishment" should not be lost. | |||
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"4 days in and most people have other things on their minds. It will take 5 years to see the consequences of brexit. No doubt some will benefit and some won't. The bit I dont understand is the desire to argue about what happened 5 years ago... Its done. We are where we are and all we can do is make the best of it. Or... As some people seem to want to do... Ensure it fails... But I wonder what anyone will gain from that? So we adapt, we suck it up and we get on with it. There is no mileage in cranking out the reasons why more people voted to leave than voted to remain. Its done. If people want to carry around the grudges they hold because they didn't like the outcome of the vote. Its going to make them very very unhappy. Should we end all forms of political dissent, draw a line under things and just give up trying? Maybe you're right we should leave those at the top of the pile completely unchallenged and free to do as they will. That's not what I said at all. So please don't put words into my mouth. We can only have a reasoned debate if people are reasonable." Forgive me but you seem to suggest we stop commenting and complaining about the brexit fiasco ? Keeping quiet as the country slides down hill is a cowardly act. | |||
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"4 days in and most people have other things on their minds. It will take 5 years to see the consequences of brexit. No doubt some will benefit and some won't. The bit I dont understand is the desire to argue about what happened 5 years ago... Its done. We are where we are and all we can do is make the best of it. Or... As some people seem to want to do... Ensure it fails... But I wonder what anyone will gain from that? So we adapt, we suck it up and we get on with it. There is no mileage in cranking out the reasons why more people voted to leave than voted to remain. Its done. If people want to carry around the grudges they hold because they didn't like the outcome of the vote. Its going to make them very very unhappy. Should we end all forms of political dissent, draw a line under things and just give up trying? Maybe you're right we should leave those at the top of the pile completely unchallenged and free to do as they will. Don’t forget , Brexiteers are now the establishment
Don't forget "the establishment" were the Liberal political elite (clegg, Cameron, Blair et Al) who were so stupidly confident that the British voters wouldn't dare vote against them.... The irony in labelling the ones who voted to leave as "
establishment" should not be lost."It isn’t lost, it is a fact . | |||
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"4 days in and most people have other things on their minds. It will take 5 years to see the consequences of brexit. No doubt some will benefit and some won't. The bit I dont understand is the desire to argue about what happened 5 years ago... Its done. We are where we are and all we can do is make the best of it. Or... As some people seem to want to do... Ensure it fails... But I wonder what anyone will gain from that? So we adapt, we suck it up and we get on with it. There is no mileage in cranking out the reasons why more people voted to leave than voted to remain. Its done. If people want to carry around the grudges they hold because they didn't like the outcome of the vote. Its going to make them very very unhappy. Should we end all forms of political dissent, draw a line under things and just give up trying? Maybe you're right we should leave those at the top of the pile completely unchallenged and free to do as they will. That's not what I said at all. So please don't put words into my mouth. We can only have a reasoned debate if people are reasonable." Sure. But you seem to be suggesting that we can't speak up anymore. I was highlighting how much of a bad idea I think it is. | |||
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"4 days in and most people have other things on their minds. It will take 5 years to see the consequences of brexit. No doubt some will benefit and some won't. The bit I dont understand is the desire to argue about what happened 5 years ago... Its done. We are where we are and all we can do is make the best of it. Or... As some people seem to want to do... Ensure it fails... But I wonder what anyone will gain from that? So we adapt, we suck it up and we get on with it. There is no mileage in cranking out the reasons why more people voted to leave than voted to remain. Its done. If people want to carry around the grudges they hold because they didn't like the outcome of the vote. Its going to make them very very unhappy. Should we end all forms of political dissent, draw a line under things and just give up trying? Maybe you're right we should leave those at the top of the pile completely unchallenged and free to do as they will. Don’t forget , Brexiteers are now the establishment
Don't forget "the establishment" were the Liberal political elite (clegg, Cameron, Blair et Al) who were so stupidly confident that the British voters wouldn't dare vote against them.... The irony in labelling the ones who voted to leave as " establishment" should not be lost."It is the broader sense the establishment who will benefit. Rather than some individuals who were in the Tory party. I agree that they misjudged how susceptible the electorate are to right wing propaganda. | |||
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"You can go on complaining about Brexit forever - but there it is and here we are OUT of the EU.
And if it's an evident disaster? What then?
Life is experiential, we live, we experience, we adapt, we change.
But we have had just 4 days - the sky isn't falling yet.
But adapting to worse conditions that are avoidable, it seems almost idiotic!
Exactly. People keep saying stuff like that.
It's like getting told to make the most of being kicked in the face.
"It's happened, get over it"
"Be positive and make the most of it"
"The sky isn't falling in"
And then we're expected not to complain about the people who voted for us to be kicked in the face.complain away cry stamp ya feet shout brexshitters unicorns idiots shout louder and louder now tell us what does that do for your mental health 4yrs of doing this can’t be good for you surely to god do you complain in reall life not just on fab about Brecht ?
The number one complainer complaining about complainers.lolso what have I complained about before then ?
Tbf mate, you are always complaining about people who complain about Brexit "haha got me bang to rights but how at it’s not like you amd me other buddy don’t complain about brexit lol | |||
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"4 days in and most people have other things on their minds. It will take 5 years to see the consequences of brexit. No doubt some will benefit and some won't. The bit I dont understand is the desire to argue about what happened 5 years ago... Its done. We are where we are and all we can do is make the best of it. Or... As some people seem to want to do... Ensure it fails... But I wonder what anyone will gain from that? So we adapt, we suck it up and we get on with it. There is no mileage in cranking out the reasons why more people voted to leave than voted to remain. Its done. If people want to carry around the grudges they hold because they didn't like the outcome of the vote. Its going to make them very very unhappy. Should we end all forms of political dissent, draw a line under things and just give up trying? Maybe you're right we should leave those at the top of the pile completely unchallenged and free to do as they will. That's not what I said at all. So please don't put words into my mouth. We can only have a reasoned debate if people are reasonable. Sure. But you seem to be suggesting that we can't speak up anymore. I was highlighting how much of a bad idea I think it is." your a bright guy you can do that without the insults mate | |||
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Of marginal interest would be how many of the house voted leave / remain in the free vote rather than represent their constituents. Although I think both sides cleared a few front Benchers out in the last 2 years. "Whether you were a leaver or remainer we should all be grateful that there is at least one party in the country with respect for democracy and who carried out the wishes of the people. That is far more important than Brexit | |||
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"4 days in and most people have other things on their minds. It will take 5 years to see the consequences of brexit. No doubt some will benefit and some won't. The bit I dont understand is the desire to argue about what happened 5 years ago... Its done. We are where we are and all we can do is make the best of it. Or... As some people seem to want to do... Ensure it fails... But I wonder what anyone will gain from that? So we adapt, we suck it up and we get on with it. There is no mileage in cranking out the reasons why more people voted to leave than voted to remain. Its done. If people want to carry around the grudges they hold because they didn't like the outcome of the vote. Its going to make them very very unhappy. Should we end all forms of political dissent, draw a line under things and just give up trying? Maybe you're right we should leave those at the top of the pile completely unchallenged and free to do as they will. That's not what I said at all. So please don't put words into my mouth. We can only have a reasoned debate if people are reasonable. Sure. But you seem to be suggesting that we can't speak up anymore. I was highlighting how much of a bad idea I think it is.your a bright guy you can do that without the insults mate " What insult? | |||
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Of marginal interest would be how many of the house voted leave / remain in the free vote rather than represent their constituents. Although I think both sides cleared a few front Benchers out in the last 2 years.
Whether you were a leaver or remainer we should all be grateful that there is at least one party in the country with respect for democracy and who carried out the wishes of the people. That is far more important than Brexit "You mean they respect the result of the referendum won with illegally funded campaigns based on lies? Top notch democracy there. If it happened in the middle East we'd be using it as an excuse to drone them. | |||
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"Democracy is an illusion " But viewed from North Korea - exempli gratia - I'm glad I'm in this one at this time. | |||
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"Brexiteers are now the establishment? Thank fuck for that
Of marginal interest would be how many of the house voted leave / remain in the free vote rather than represent their constituents. Although I think both sides cleared a few front Benchers out in the last 2 years.
Whether you were a leaver or remainer we should all be grateful that there is at least one party in the country with respect for democracy and who carried out the wishes of the people. That is far more important than Brexit
You mean they respect the result of the referendum won with illegally funded campaigns based on lies?
Top notch democracy there.
If it happened in the middle East we'd be using it as an excuse to drone them."Complete bollocks. You could claim that every referendum/election in history was won by dodgy money and lies after the event and deny the result. Isn't that what dictators do? Pathetic excuse | |||
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"Brexiteers are now the establishment? Thank fuck for that
Of marginal interest would be how many of the house voted leave / remain in the free vote rather than represent their constituents. Although I think both sides cleared a few front Benchers out in the last 2 years.
Whether you were a leaver or remainer we should all be grateful that there is at least one party in the country with respect for democracy and who carried out the wishes of the people. That is far more important than Brexit
You mean they respect the result of the referendum won with illegally funded campaigns based on lies?
Top notch democracy there.
If it happened in the middle East we'd be using it as an excuse to drone them.
Complete bollocks. You could claim that every referendum/election in history was won by dodgy money and lies after the event and deny the result. Isn't that what dictators do? Pathetic excuse "You could claim it. In this case the courts determined they were illegally funded. As for the lies. Are you suggesting they were telling the truth? | |||
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"Brexiteers are now the establishment? Thank fuck for that
Of marginal interest would be how many of the house voted leave / remain in the free vote rather than represent their constituents. Although I think both sides cleared a few front Benchers out in the last 2 years.
Whether you were a leaver or remainer we should all be grateful that there is at least one party in the country with respect for democracy and who carried out the wishes of the people. That is far more important than Brexit
You mean they respect the result of the referendum won with illegally funded campaigns based on lies?
Top notch democracy there.
If it happened in the middle East we'd be using it as an excuse to drone them.
Complete bollocks. You could claim that every referendum/election in history was won by dodgy money and lies after the event and deny the result. Isn't that what dictators do? Pathetic excuse
You could claim it. In this case the courts determined they were illegally funded.
As for the lies. Are you suggesting they were telling the truth?"one side used £9 million of tax payers money to leaflet every household in the U.K. to remain lol yet really fair | |||
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"Some EU business are now refusing UK delivery over HMRC tax changes following Brexit. HMRC is now collecting VAT at the point of sale rather previously at the point of importation. This now means that oversea retailers are expected to register for UK VAT and account for it to HMRC if the sale value is less than 150 Euros (£135). This means that HMRC now intends to charge a fee to every company in the world in every country that exports to the UK. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55530721 Brexit, the gift that keep giving.... " It’s also being applied on 2/3rds export transport where it wasn’t before. Government have advised of changes but nothing in writing yet. So no idea what to plan for. 4 days in and we still don’t have the rules. Also no advice yet on VAT returns for the 27 countries. It’s a DIY job. More worryingly this government have done trade deals without any recourse or checks by parliament. I wouldn’t normally bring it up but one of these deals is with Turkey and there was no reference to human rights including violent suppression of opposition. Interfering in judges in court. and imprisoning journalists under fake charges. Is this an example of get things done because I’d rather we didn’t if it’s this disgusting. The Tory party claimed our new trade deals won’t just be business but will take into account human rights and environmental issues, Blatantly another lie then! | |||
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"Brexiteers are now the establishment? Thank fuck for that
Of marginal interest would be how many of the house voted leave / remain in the free vote rather than represent their constituents. Although I think both sides cleared a few front Benchers out in the last 2 years.
Whether you were a leaver or remainer we should all be grateful that there is at least one party in the country with respect for democracy and who carried out the wishes of the people. That is far more important than Brexit
You mean they respect the result of the referendum won with illegally funded campaigns based on lies?
Top notch democracy there.
If it happened in the middle East we'd be using it as an excuse to drone them.
Complete bollocks. You could claim that every referendum/election in history was won by dodgy money and lies after the event and deny the result. Isn't that what dictators do? Pathetic excuse
You could claim it. In this case the courts determined they were illegally funded.
As for the lies. Are you suggesting they were telling the truth?"If this really was the case then I applaud the Tory party even more, a government who backed remain and with a majority of Mp's who backed remain. They put aside their own wishes to see that democracy was done. Unlike most of the rest of the shite in Parliament | |||
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"Brexiteers are now the establishment? Thank fuck for that
Of marginal interest would be how many of the house voted leave / remain in the free vote rather than represent their constituents. Although I think both sides cleared a few front Benchers out in the last 2 years.
Whether you were a leaver or remainer we should all be grateful that there is at least one party in the country with respect for democracy and who carried out the wishes of the people. That is far more important than Brexit
You mean they respect the result of the referendum won with illegally funded campaigns based on lies?
Top notch democracy there.
If it happened in the middle East we'd be using it as an excuse to drone them.
Complete bollocks. You could claim that every referendum/election in history was won by dodgy money and lies after the event and deny the result. Isn't that what dictators do? Pathetic excuse
You could claim it. In this case the courts determined they were illegally funded.
As for the lies. Are you suggesting they were telling the truth?one side used £9 million of tax payers money to leaflet every household in the U.K. to remain lol yet really fair "They were legally obliged to provide that leaflet. Are you suggesting the government should have broken the law? Besides. Brexit cost the UK economy over £9 million every twenty five minutes or so in 2020. | |||
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"Brexiteers are now the establishment? Thank fuck for that
Of marginal interest would be how many of the house voted leave / remain in the free vote rather than represent their constituents. Although I think both sides cleared a few front Benchers out in the last 2 years.
Whether you were a leaver or remainer we should all be grateful that there is at least one party in the country with respect for democracy and who carried out the wishes of the people. That is far more important than Brexit
You mean they respect the result of the referendum won with illegally funded campaigns based on lies?
Top notch democracy there.
If it happened in the middle East we'd be using it as an excuse to drone them.
Complete bollocks. You could claim that every referendum/election in history was won by dodgy money and lies after the event and deny the result. Isn't that what dictators do? Pathetic excuse
You could claim it. In this case the courts determined they were illegally funded.
As for the lies. Are you suggesting they were telling the truth?
If this really was the case then I applaud the Tory party even more, a government who backed remain and with a majority of Mp's who backed remain. They put aside their own wishes to see that democracy was done. Unlike most of the rest of the shite in Parliament "At least you're honest about supporting the corruption of democracy through lies and illegal funding. Fair play to you. | |||
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"Some EU business are now refusing UK delivery over HMRC tax changes following Brexit. HMRC is now collecting VAT at the point of sale rather previously at the point of importation. This now means that oversea retailers are expected to register for UK VAT and account for it to HMRC if the sale value is less than 150 Euros (£135). This means that HMRC now intends to charge a fee to every company in the world in every country that exports to the UK. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55530721 Brexit, the gift that keep giving.... It’s also being applied on 2/3rds export transport where it wasn’t before. Government have advised of changes but nothing in writing yet. So no idea what to plan for. 4 days in and we still don’t have the rules. Also no advice yet on VAT returns for the 27 countries. It’s a DIY job. More worryingly this government have done trade deals without any recourse or checks by parliament. I wouldn’t normally bring it up but one of these deals is with Turkey and there was no reference to human rights including violent suppression of opposition. Interfering in judges in court. and imprisoning journalists under fake charges. Is this an example of get things done because I’d rather we didn’t if it’s this disgusting. The Tory party claimed our new trade deals won’t just be business but will take into account human rights and environmental issues, Blatantly another lie then! " not having o pop at ya here mate but can I ask do you or anyone on fab buy from China and give human rights a second thought I’ll be honest it never crossed my mind if I was booking a holiday to turkey dubia Egypt morroco I don’t give it a second thought either | |||
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"Brexiteers are now the establishment? Thank fuck for that
Of marginal interest would be how many of the house voted leave / remain in the free vote rather than represent their constituents. Although I think both sides cleared a few front Benchers out in the last 2 years.
Whether you were a leaver or remainer we should all be grateful that there is at least one party in the country with respect for democracy and who carried out the wishes of the people. That is far more important than Brexit
You mean they respect the result of the referendum won with illegally funded campaigns based on lies?
Top notch democracy there.
If it happened in the middle East we'd be using it as an excuse to drone them.
Complete bollocks. You could claim that every referendum/election in history was won by dodgy money and lies after the event and deny the result. Isn't that what dictators do? Pathetic excuse
You could claim it. In this case the courts determined they were illegally funded.
As for the lies. Are you suggesting they were telling the truth?
If this really was the case then I applaud the Tory party even more, a government who backed remain and with a majority of Mp's who backed remain. They put aside their own wishes to see that democracy was done. Unlike most of the rest of the shite in Parliament
At least you're honest about supporting the corruption of democracy through lies and illegal funding. Fair play to you."And at least you're honest enough to admit supporting an anti democratic misandrist and 'only occasionally' long haul flying hypocrite. Fair play to you | |||
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"Some EU business are now refusing UK delivery over HMRC tax changes following Brexit. HMRC is now collecting VAT at the point of sale rather previously at the point of importation. This now means that oversea retailers are expected to register for UK VAT and account for it to HMRC if the sale value is less than 150 Euros (£135). This means that HMRC now intends to charge a fee to every company in the world in every country that exports to the UK. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55530721 Brexit, the gift that keep giving.... It’s also being applied on 2/3rds export transport where it wasn’t before. Government have advised of changes but nothing in writing yet. So no idea what to plan for. 4 days in and we still don’t have the rules. Also no advice yet on VAT returns for the 27 countries. It’s a DIY job. More worryingly this government have done trade deals without any recourse or checks by parliament. I wouldn’t normally bring it up but one of these deals is with Turkey and there was no reference to human rights including violent suppression of opposition. Interfering in judges in court. and imprisoning journalists under fake charges. Is this an example of get things done because I’d rather we didn’t if it’s this disgusting. The Tory party claimed our new trade deals won’t just be business but will take into account human rights and environmental issues, Blatantly another lie then! not having o pop at ya here mate but can I ask do you or anyone on fab buy from China and give human rights a second thought I’ll be honest it never crossed my mind if I was booking a holiday to turkey dubia Egypt morroco I don’t give it a second thought either " Indeed I do like us all but I don’t promise to make sure deals would address Erdogan type leaders. The sales job by Raab etc blatantly claimed the moral high ground and didn’t act in the slightest to follow through on the promise. On a personal note I try not to buy from China and think we all should try not too. I do business in Turkey so no moral high ground but didn’t claim it either. The point is, they say the rhetoric but it has no substance. It’s just more dumbing down of the quality of our politics. I think we need to push back at politicians who lie! Both sides included but Boris and co have become the worst ever. | |||
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"Brexiteers are now the establishment? Thank fuck for that
Of marginal interest would be how many of the house voted leave / remain in the free vote rather than represent their constituents. Although I think both sides cleared a few front Benchers out in the last 2 years.
Whether you were a leaver or remainer we should all be grateful that there is at least one party in the country with respect for democracy and who carried out the wishes of the people. That is far more important than Brexit
You mean they respect the result of the referendum won with illegally funded campaigns based on lies?
Top notch democracy there.
If it happened in the middle East we'd be using it as an excuse to drone them.
Complete bollocks. You could claim that every referendum/election in history was won by dodgy money and lies after the event and deny the result. Isn't that what dictators do? Pathetic excuse
You could claim it. In this case the courts determined they were illegally funded.
As for the lies. Are you suggesting they were telling the truth?
If this really was the case then I applaud the Tory party even more, a government who backed remain and with a majority of Mp's who backed remain. They put aside their own wishes to see that democracy was done. Unlike most of the rest of the shite in Parliament
At least you're honest about supporting the corruption of democracy through lies and illegal funding. Fair play to you.
And at least you're honest enough to admit supporting an anti democratic misandrist and 'only occasionally' long haul flying hypocrite. Fair play to you "You've mixed me up with someone else. | |||
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"Some EU business are now refusing UK delivery over HMRC tax changes following Brexit. HMRC is now collecting VAT at the point of sale rather previously at the point of importation. This now means that oversea retailers are expected to register for UK VAT and account for it to HMRC if the sale value is less than 150 Euros (£135). This means that HMRC now intends to charge a fee to every company in the world in every country that exports to the UK. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55530721 Brexit, the gift that keep giving.... It’s also being applied on 2/3rds export transport where it wasn’t before. Government have advised of changes but nothing in writing yet. So no idea what to plan for. 4 days in and we still don’t have the rules. Also no advice yet on VAT returns for the 27 countries. It’s a DIY job. More worryingly this government have done trade deals without any recourse or checks by parliament. I wouldn’t normally bring it up but one of these deals is with Turkey and there was no reference to human rights including violent suppression of opposition. Interfering in judges in court. and imprisoning journalists under fake charges. Is this an example of get things done because I’d rather we didn’t if it’s this disgusting. The Tory party claimed our new trade deals won’t just be business but will take into account human rights and environmental issues, Blatantly another lie then! not having o pop at ya here mate but can I ask do you or anyone on fab buy from China and give human rights a second thought I’ll be honest it never crossed my mind if I was booking a holiday to turkey dubia Egypt morroco I don’t give it a second thought either Indeed I do like us all but I don’t promise to make sure deals would address Erdogan type leaders. The sales job by Raab etc blatantly claimed the moral high ground and didn’t act in the slightest to follow through on the promise. On a personal note I try not to buy from China and think we all should try not too. I do business in Turkey so no moral high ground but didn’t claim it either. The point is, they say the rhetoric but it has no substance. It’s just more dumbing down of the quality of our politics. I think we need to push back at politicians who lie! Both sides included but Boris and co have become the worst ever. " I can’t disagree with any of that bud | |||
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"Brexiteers are now the establishment? Thank fuck for that
Of marginal interest would be how many of the house voted leave / remain in the free vote rather than represent their constituents. Although I think both sides cleared a few front Benchers out in the last 2 years.
Whether you were a leaver or remainer we should all be grateful that there is at least one party in the country with respect for democracy and who carried out the wishes of the people. That is far more important than Brexit
You mean they respect the result of the referendum won with illegally funded campaigns based on lies?
Top notch democracy there.
If it happened in the middle East we'd be using it as an excuse to drone them.
Complete bollocks. You could claim that every referendum/election in history was won by dodgy money and lies after the event and deny the result. Isn't that what dictators do? Pathetic excuse
You could claim it. In this case the courts determined they were illegally funded.
As for the lies. Are you suggesting they were telling the truth?
If this really was the case then I applaud the Tory party even more, a government who backed remain and with a majority of Mp's who backed remain. They put aside their own wishes to see that democracy was done. Unlike most of the rest of the shite in Parliament
At least you're honest about supporting the corruption of democracy through lies and illegal funding. Fair play to you.
And at least you're honest enough to admit supporting an anti democratic misandrist and 'only occasionally' long haul flying hypocrite. Fair play to you
You've mixed me up with someone else. "That's funny, I'm sure you said you'd like to see the misandrist democracy denying long haul flying hypocrite Caroline Lucas as PM | |||
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"Brexiteers are now the establishment? Thank fuck for that
Of marginal interest would be how many of the house voted leave / remain in the free vote rather than represent their constituents. Although I think both sides cleared a few front Benchers out in the last 2 years.
Whether you were a leaver or remainer we should all be grateful that there is at least one party in the country with respect for democracy and who carried out the wishes of the people. That is far more important than Brexit
You mean they respect the result of the referendum won with illegally funded campaigns based on lies?
Top notch democracy there.
If it happened in the middle East we'd be using it as an excuse to drone them.
Complete bollocks. You could claim that every referendum/election in history was won by dodgy money and lies after the event and deny the result. Isn't that what dictators do? Pathetic excuse
You could claim it. In this case the courts determined they were illegally funded.
As for the lies. Are you suggesting they were telling the truth?
If this really was the case then I applaud the Tory party even more, a government who backed remain and with a majority of Mp's who backed remain. They put aside their own wishes to see that democracy was done. Unlike most of the rest of the shite in Parliament
At least you're honest about supporting the corruption of democracy through lies and illegal funding. Fair play to you.
And at least you're honest enough to admit supporting an anti democratic misandrist and 'only occasionally' long haul flying hypocrite. Fair play to you
You've mixed me up with someone else.
That's funny, I'm sure you said you'd like to see the misandrist democracy denying long haul flying hypocrite Caroline Lucas as PM "Nope. You're confused. I picked her or Genghis Khan as examples of people who would be less shit at it than Boris. | |||
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