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"Supermarket bosses continually say that this will be consumer led. Any agricultural product from the US will be clearly marked as such. People in the UK simply won't buy it. If it even makes its way here. " Part of the discussion is to eliminate the need to show origin sours each on labelling so no you won’t know what’s in your cottage pie. | |||
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"paranoia or what. "What is positive about hormone injected stock years beef? I really am trying to avoid the Brexit here and get everyone to look up how the Americans rear their cattle. It’s just chemicals all the way. In the states regarding food, the consumer has to prove its not safe,. The producer does not have to prove it is. Food poisoning in the US is on a different scale to the U.K. For a western country it’s horrific. We have to do a deal with the us at some point but are we really so desperate to let this lowering happen? | |||
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"Supermarket bosses continually say that this will be consumer led. Any agricultural product from the US will be clearly marked as such. People in the UK simply won't buy it. If it even makes its way here. Part of the discussion is to eliminate the need to show origin sours each on labelling so no you won’t know what’s in your cottage pie. " Correction “Source of origin” | |||
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"Supermarket bosses continually say that this will be consumer led. Any agricultural product from the US will be clearly marked as such. People in the UK simply won't buy it. If it even makes its way here. " They've already discussed removing labelled requirements. Besides, if they reduce the food safety standards, it will allow British producers to start lowering their standards to compete. So even if we did keep labelling, produce being from the UK would not guarantee anything. | |||
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"paranoia or what. "Is this just another "project fear" that will turn into "well this is what we wanted all along"? | |||
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"Supermarket bosses continually say that this will be consumer led. Any agricultural product from the US will be clearly marked as such. People in the UK simply won't buy it. If it even makes its way here. They've already discussed removing labelled requirements. Besides, if they reduce the food safety standards, it will allow British producers to start lowering their standards to compete. So even if we did keep labelling, produce being from the UK would not guarantee anything. " When was that then,do you have a gov link? | |||
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"Supermarket bosses continually say that this will be consumer led. Any agricultural product from the US will be clearly marked as such. People in the UK simply won't buy it. If it even makes its way here. They've already discussed removing labelled requirements. Besides, if they reduce the food safety standards, it will allow British producers to start lowering their standards to compete. So even if we did keep labelling, produce being from the UK would not guarantee anything. When was that then,do you have a gov link?" Do you need a gov link to show what happens when food standards are lowered? They become the standard | |||
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"More rubbish to try scare people, if customers do not buy it then it will not get imported and labels will not change standards will stay the same " How will standards stay the same if standards are lowered to allow it in to uk? U.S. will make you lower your standards and pus filled meat and milk will be forced onto your shelves So much for your sovereignty | |||
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"More rubbish to try scare people, if customers do not buy it then it will not get imported and labels will not change standards will stay the same How will standards stay the same if standards are lowered to allow it in to uk? U.S. will make you lower your standards and pus filled meat and milk will be forced onto your shelves So much for your sovereignty " | |||
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"We already import hormone fed food. From the EU. After our bse incident, I'm not sure that we will cave into the Americans over this. Consumer groups won't allow it. Anyone remember the Sunny Delight incident? " Hormones least of your worries I take it you know little of U.S. food standards and the amount of illness they cause there Every country that has done a trade deal with U.S. has had to open its borders to U.S. food producers Dont believe boris.he is lying to you.again | |||
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"We already import hormone fed food. From the EU. After our bse incident, I'm not sure that we will cave into the Americans over this. Consumer groups won't allow it. Anyone remember the Sunny Delight incident? Hormones least of your worries I take it you know little of U.S. food standards and the amount of illness they cause there Every country that has done a trade deal with U.S. has had to open its borders to U.S. food producers Dont believe boris.he is lying to you.again" Are you a tad worried about the fall in Irish beef sales by any chance? | |||
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"Not to mention the chlorine washed salad that we all already eat " Ok so you do know little of U.S. food standards The problem is not the chlorine fella The problem is what that chlorine is trying to cover up in the meat Chlorine is totally safe The U.S. wash their meat in it to try wash away the bacteria and infections that their poor standards allow fester in the animals poor lives | |||
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"We already import hormone fed food. From the EU. After our bse incident, I'm not sure that we will cave into the Americans over this. Consumer groups won't allow it. Anyone remember the Sunny Delight incident? Hormones least of your worries I take it you know little of U.S. food standards and the amount of illness they cause there Every country that has done a trade deal with U.S. has had to open its borders to U.S. food producers Dont believe boris.he is lying to you.again Are you a tad worried about the fall in Irish beef sales by any chance? " It has no bearing to my life or most other irish peoples lives except a small percent who are farmers Whereas we are all concerned about our food standards and what we eat.which is safe btw | |||
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"Not to mention the chlorine washed salad that we all already eat " Any answer like this shows a fundamental lack of knowledge on the subject. | |||
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"Not to mention the chlorine washed salad that we all already eat Any answer like this shows a fundamental lack of knowledge on the subject. " True. We can't all be experts on every subject like yourself, it's amazing how you do it. Where did you gain your knowledge of the food industry from? | |||
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"Not to mention the chlorine washed salad that we all already eat Any answer like this shows a fundamental lack of knowledge on the subject. True. We can't all be experts on every subject like yourself, it's amazing how you do it. Where did you gain your knowledge of the food industry from? " Being able to read isnt that amazing really The bbc are a decent source for a start | |||
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"Not to mention the chlorine washed salad that we all already eat Any answer like this shows a fundamental lack of knowledge on the subject. True. We can't all be experts on every subject like yourself, it's amazing how you do it. Where did you gain your knowledge of the food industry from? " I've worked in food safety for the past 8 years pal. | |||
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"In a few years, every teenage boy in the UK will have a pair of boobs and every teenage girl will have a beard, that what happens when you are fed hormone treated foods " We’re close to that now! | |||
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"Not to mention the chlorine washed salad that we all already eat Any answer like this shows a fundamental lack of knowledge on the subject. True. We can't all be experts on every subject like yourself, it's amazing how you do it. Where did you gain your knowledge of the food industry from? I've worked in food safety for the past 8 years pal. " Working at McDonald's doesn't really count.. pal | |||
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"Brexit is done an dusted and we can argue the pro and cons forever. You all know my view. This I think is actually more important because it is about our whole countries health. I have family in the US and they have to search out healthy food because the US standard produced is really that bad. Big pharma is the biggest lobby in the US and payrolls the senators to keep the laws lax on food safely. American politics is controlled by big business as sadly that’s where we are heading. Just my opinion and this is aimed at Labour and Tory . MP’s should not be allowed to work or consult for any organisation whilst an MP. This ban should also last for two years after . Keep them on pay by all means but after two years they won’t be able to exploit their connections. " Agree completely. | |||
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"I'm sure when we have to accept US standards on foods to get the trade deal, Brexiters will be up in arms about the loss of sovereignty, and letting the US 'tell us what to do'. Right?" Don’t come on here with a reasonable point. Folk will be up in arms..  | |||
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"I'm sure when we have to accept US standards on foods to get the trade deal, Brexiters will be up in arms about the loss of sovereignty, and letting the US 'tell us what to do'. Right?" Its laughable Why should Europe tell us what to do..that's Americas job. | |||
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"The American senior negotiator asked about demands to adapt UK food standards on beef and chicken, as well as reforms to the way the NHS pays for US medicines, Mr Lighthizer said: "These negotiations are ongoing. "You know, clearly, the US needs to get additional access to the agricultural market in the UK - that's an important part of it, each side has to get something out of it. These are complicated technical issues. And they're the kinds of things that will be worked out, I think, in the in the final stages of negotiation." To translate - more expensive drugs for the NHS, GM crops, Chlorinated chicken, Why as a nation are we prepared to allow American crap food to even be considered being allowed into this country? “The NHS is not for sale” no, but it’s about to get a lot more expensive. I’m not arguing about Brexit here. This is just wrong. We seem to be selling ourselves for a few pieces of silver. It’s our children that will suffer here. Yes tariffs on whiskey to the USA will drop. Have you seen Diageo and Chivas profits? They are huge and aren’t suffering due to tariffs. A deal at any cost? " Back to the OP, how on earth do you translate Mr Lighthizers comment into GM crops and chlorinated chicken? Is this something you’ve got from Karen off Facebook? | |||
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"More rubbish to try scare people, if customers do not buy it then it will not get imported and labels will not change standards will stay the same " If labeling regs change then it cannot be consumer driven if consumers cannot differentiate where products have come from to start with. | |||
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"Not to mention the chlorine washed salad that we all already eat Any answer like this shows a fundamental lack of knowledge on the subject. True. We can't all be experts on every subject like yourself, it's amazing how you do it. Where did you gain your knowledge of the food industry from? " He's right though and you don't need to be any form of expert to know something that has had so much media attention over the years like America's process of chlorine washing of meat and why we don't allow it and the reasons for not doing it. Frankly it's amazing people who jump into these discussions still don't know or understand the basic facts that are being discussed and say something like the chlorine salad faux pas | |||
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"Not to mention the chlorine washed salad that we all already eat Any answer like this shows a fundamental lack of knowledge on the subject. True. We can't all be experts on every subject like yourself, it's amazing how you do it. Where did you gain your knowledge of the food industry from? He's right though and you don't need to be any form of expert to know something that has had so much media attention over the years like America's process of chlorine washing of meat and why we don't allow it and the reasons for not doing it. Frankly it's amazing people who jump into these discussions still don't know or understand the basic facts that are being discussed and say something like the chlorine salad faux pas "You have to remember that to ‘some’ Brexit is a cult, they ignore and try to downplay any negatives that will happen when we leave the EU, pathetic really | |||
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"More rubbish to try scare people, if customers do not buy it then it will not get imported and labels will not change standards will stay the same If labeling regs change then it cannot be consumer driven if consumers cannot differentiate where products have come from to start with. " And in these days of allergy and nutrition advice, do you honestly see that happening? | |||
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"More rubbish to try scare people, if customers do not buy it then it will not get imported and labels will not change standards will stay the same If labeling regs change then it cannot be consumer driven if consumers cannot differentiate where products have come from to start with. And in these days of allergy and nutrition advice, do you honestly see that happening? " Who knows, the nutrition advice obviously doesn’t work in America, they are the fattest and most unhealthy nation on earth | |||
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"Not to mention the chlorine washed salad that we all already eat Any answer like this shows a fundamental lack of knowledge on the subject. True. We can't all be experts on every subject like yourself, it's amazing how you do it. Where did you gain your knowledge of the food industry from? He's right though and you don't need to be any form of expert to know something that has had so much media attention over the years like America's process of chlorine washing of meat and why we don't allow it and the reasons for not doing it. Frankly it's amazing people who jump into these discussions still don't know or understand the basic facts that are being discussed and say something like the chlorine salad faux pas
You have to remember that to ‘some’ Brexit is a cult, they ignore and try to downplay any negatives that will happen when we leave the EU, pathetic really "can be said about remainers aswell you just ignored the post 3above which wasn’t positive about the eu | |||
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"Not to mention the chlorine washed salad that we all already eat Any answer like this shows a fundamental lack of knowledge on the subject. True. We can't all be experts on every subject like yourself, it's amazing how you do it. Where did you gain your knowledge of the food industry from? He's right though and you don't need to be any form of expert to know something that has had so much media attention over the years like America's process of chlorine washing of meat and why we don't allow it and the reasons for not doing it. Frankly it's amazing people who jump into these discussions still don't know or understand the basic facts that are being discussed and say something like the chlorine salad faux pas
You have to remember that to ‘some’ Brexit is a cult, they ignore and try to downplay any negatives that will happen when we leave the EU, pathetic really can be said about remainers aswell you just ignored the post 3above which wasn’t positive about the eu "That is partly true, the EU has many faults , most remain voters will admit that, I haven’t heard one Brexit fanatic admit to a downside to leaving the EU though  | |||
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"Not to mention the chlorine washed salad that we all already eat Any answer like this shows a fundamental lack of knowledge on the subject. True. We can't all be experts on every subject like yourself, it's amazing how you do it. Where did you gain your knowledge of the food industry from? He's right though and you don't need to be any form of expert to know something that has had so much media attention over the years like America's process of chlorine washing of meat and why we don't allow it and the reasons for not doing it. Frankly it's amazing people who jump into these discussions still don't know or understand the basic facts that are being discussed and say something like the chlorine salad faux pas "Well maybe you can educate me. Why is salad chlorine washed and is it a good thing? | |||
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"More expensive drugs from America you say? What, compared to the price collusion that took place while we were in the EU? Last year: “Four pharmaceutical firms have been accused of illegally colluding to restrict the supply of an anti-nausea tablet, driving the price paid for it by the NHS up by 700%. The Competition and Markets Authority (CMA) said the cost of prochlorperazine rose from £6.49 per pack to £51.68, after suppliers agreed not to compete. The drug is often prescribed to cancer patients undergoing chemotherapy.”" Look up patent licence limits imposed in the EU compared to the US. Then tell me drugs aren’t going to get expensive a lot quicker for us all in the U.K. If I go on Google as you seem to do a lot I can get a much bigger list of corruption in US pharma and far more class actions. The four “U.K.” registered companies in this action you are referring to are distributors of medicine so in effect the logistics chain not the development patent holding giants holding court in any country. Not related to Brussels in any way. Do you really want to compare Europe with the capital of lawsuits America? Really?. Ferry companies collude. Banks collude. The art is not getting caught so you’re point has nothing to do with my original post on food safety and in fact supports my point against corrupt big Pharma which is dominant in American food. | |||
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"Not to mention the chlorine washed salad that we all already eat Any answer like this shows a fundamental lack of knowledge on the subject. True. We can't all be experts on every subject like yourself, it's amazing how you do it. Where did you gain your knowledge of the food industry from? He's right though and you don't need to be any form of expert to know something that has had so much media attention over the years like America's process of chlorine washing of meat and why we don't allow it and the reasons for not doing it. Frankly it's amazing people who jump into these discussions still don't know or understand the basic facts that are being discussed and say something like the chlorine salad faux pas
Well maybe you can educate me. Why is salad chlorine washed and is it a good thing? "I quoted you and explained why Do you not understand my post? | |||
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"Not to mention the chlorine washed salad that we all already eat Any answer like this shows a fundamental lack of knowledge on the subject. True. We can't all be experts on every subject like yourself, it's amazing how you do it. Where did you gain your knowledge of the food industry from? He's right though and you don't need to be any form of expert to know something that has had so much media attention over the years like America's process of chlorine washing of meat and why we don't allow it and the reasons for not doing it. Frankly it's amazing people who jump into these discussions still don't know or understand the basic facts that are being discussed and say something like the chlorine salad faux pas
Well maybe you can educate me. Why is salad chlorine washed and is it a good thing?
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Do you not understand my post?"No. And I don't use the BBC as a source for anything thanks | |||
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"More rubbish to try scare people, if customers do not buy it then it will not get imported and labels will not change standards will stay the same If labeling regs change then it cannot be consumer driven if consumers cannot differentiate where products have come from to start with. And in these days of allergy and nutrition advice, do you honestly see that happening? " Hopefully not. But it's on the table in the trade negotiations with the US. https://www.soilassociation.org/causes-campaigns/top-10-risks-from-a-uk-us-trade-deal/ There's a link in there to a very long and detailed report on the barriers needed to be overcome to get the trade deal done. Food labelling is one of them. | |||
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"Not to mention the chlorine washed salad that we all already eat Any answer like this shows a fundamental lack of knowledge on the subject. True. We can't all be experts on every subject like yourself, it's amazing how you do it. Where did you gain your knowledge of the food industry from? He's right though and you don't need to be any form of expert to know something that has had so much media attention over the years like America's process of chlorine washing of meat and why we don't allow it and the reasons for not doing it. Frankly it's amazing people who jump into these discussions still don't know or understand the basic facts that are being discussed and say something like the chlorine salad faux pas
Well maybe you can educate me. Why is salad chlorine washed and is it a good thing? "To stop bacteria forming after production. Please see below explaining this and the reason American chicken is such a high risk. The Committee on Toxicity, a government department, carried out tests of chlorine-washed bagged salads and detected chlorine levels that were lower than those found in drinking water. The purpose of chlorine-washing chicken at the end of the production line is to kill bacteria such as campylobacter, salmonella and E coli, which can cause food poisoning. To minimise bacterial contamination and the risk of food poisoning, farmers in the UK and EU legally have to follow high welfare and production standards throughout the system, as opposed to relying on a single decontamination stage. This is known as a farm-to-fork approach and includes minimum allowances for space, light and ventilation in chicken housing, giving birds space to move and behave normally. Chicken houses must also be cleaned thoroughly and the litter replaced between flocks. But in the US, similar laws or regulations don’t exist. Link below for you to confirm from the independent organisation Which. Read more: https://www.which.co.uk/news/2020/09/chlorine-washed-chicken-vs-chlorine-washed-salad-leaves-whats-the-difference/ - Which? | |||
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"Not to mention the chlorine washed salad that we all already eat Any answer like this shows a fundamental lack of knowledge on the subject. True. We can't all be experts on every subject like yourself, it's amazing how you do it. Where did you gain your knowledge of the food industry from? He's right though and you don't need to be any form of expert to know something that has had so much media attention over the years like America's process of chlorine washing of meat and why we don't allow it and the reasons for not doing it. Frankly it's amazing people who jump into these discussions still don't know or understand the basic facts that are being discussed and say something like the chlorine salad faux pas
Well maybe you can educate me. Why is salad chlorine washed and is it a good thing?
To stop bacteria forming after production. Please see below explaining this and the reason American chicken is such a high risk.
The Committee on Toxicity, a government department, carried out tests of chlorine-washed bagged salads and detected chlorine levels that were lower than those found in drinking water.
The purpose of chlorine-washing chicken at the end of the production line is to kill bacteria such as campylobacter, salmonella and E coli, which can cause food poisoning. To minimise bacterial contamination and the risk of food poisoning, farmers in the UK and EU legally have to follow high welfare and production standards throughout the system, as opposed to relying on a single decontamination stage. This is known as a farm-to-fork approach and includes minimum allowances for space, light and ventilation in chicken housing, giving birds space to move and behave normally. Chicken houses must also be cleaned thoroughly and the litter replaced between flocks.
But in the US, similar laws or regulations don’t exist.
Link below for you to confirm from the independent organisation Which.
Read more: https://www.which.co.uk/news/2020/09/chlorine-washed-chicken-vs-chlorine-washed-salad-leaves-whats-the-difference/ - Which?"So basically it's added after poor food production and salad not being washed properly? | |||
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"Can I ask everyone without referring to Brexit please does anyone really want to lower our food standards to let American food in? I’m curious if we are all on the same side regarding this? I don’t give a fuck about the cars planes etc they are open for discussion. I personally think it really matters that we are a united front on this issue. Yes I know it’s a swinging site but surely we agree we all like fun so maybe we can agree on this one ?? Am I alone in this? " There's a Which report that has huge percentages of consumers rejecting any lowering of standards, and any loss of food labelling. | |||
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"Can I ask everyone without referring to Brexit please does anyone really want to lower our food standards to let American food in? I’m curious if we are all on the same side regarding this? I don’t give a fuck about the cars planes etc they are open for discussion. I personally think it really matters that we are a united front on this issue. Yes I know it’s a swinging site but surely we agree we all like fun so maybe we can agree on this one ?? Am I alone in this? There's a Which report that has huge percentages of consumers rejecting any lowering of standards, and any loss of food labelling. " That doesnt mean it's not going to happen | |||
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"Brussels idea of animal welfare, from a couple of weeks ago: “Undercover footage published on Thursday appears to show pig cannibalism and other serious issues at a supplier for a Nestlé-owned brand of frankfurter sold by most major supermarkets. Waitrose has suspended the pork products by bestselling French brand Herta while it investigates. Herta is being sued by campaigners for animal mistreatment and misleading consumers. The brand, which is sold in UK supermarkets, is 60% owned by Spanish food company Casa Tarradellas and 40% by Nestlé. The video footage published by French animal welfare group, L214, appears to show pig cannibalism, dead animals lying in pens, and pigs in overcrowded pens climbing over one other. In one section a sow, which appears to be struggling to stand in a narrow farrowing crate with no bedding, slips and squashes at least one piglet.” Yet you focus on theoretical supply situations from other countries. You’re a bit like our home grown climate activists who moan about lack of loft insulation, when they should all be off protesting in China and stopping them building a coal fired power station every week." All of which is horrid and band in both the U.K. and the EU Poor animal treatment is legal is the USA . | |||
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"Not to mention the chlorine washed salad that we all already eat Any answer like this shows a fundamental lack of knowledge on the subject. True. We can't all be experts on every subject like yourself, it's amazing how you do it. Where did you gain your knowledge of the food industry from? He's right though and you don't need to be any form of expert to know something that has had so much media attention over the years like America's process of chlorine washing of meat and why we don't allow it and the reasons for not doing it. Frankly it's amazing people who jump into these discussions still don't know or understand the basic facts that are being discussed and say something like the chlorine salad faux pas
Well maybe you can educate me. Why is salad chlorine washed and is it a good thing?
To stop bacteria forming after production. Please see below explaining this and the reason American chicken is such a high risk.
The Committee on Toxicity, a government department, carried out tests of chlorine-washed bagged salads and detected chlorine levels that were lower than those found in drinking water.
The purpose of chlorine-washing chicken at the end of the production line is to kill bacteria such as campylobacter, salmonella and E coli, which can cause food poisoning. To minimise bacterial contamination and the risk of food poisoning, farmers in the UK and EU legally have to follow high welfare and production standards throughout the system, as opposed to relying on a single decontamination stage. This is known as a farm-to-fork approach and includes minimum allowances for space, light and ventilation in chicken housing, giving birds space to move and behave normally. Chicken houses must also be cleaned thoroughly and the litter replaced between flocks.
But in the US, similar laws or regulations don’t exist.
Link below for you to confirm from the independent organisation Which.
Read more: https://www.which.co.uk/news/2020/09/chlorine-washed-chicken-vs-chlorine-washed-salad-leaves-whats-the-difference/ - Which?
So basically it's added after poor food production and salad not being washed properly? "No it’s like your drinking water being just that little bit safer. It’s not really needed in U.K. or Europe production, but added to be sure. In America it is definitely needed and in a big way . Or are you saying we have the same standards in the U.K. as the Americans as Which seem to think otherwise. I think their research and knowledge is definitely better than yours! Feel free to show us all why you know better! | |||
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"I know its slighty off topic but if urge anyone to watch that Michael Moore film and the water pollution scandal." Cracking film . Shocked how Obama behaved . | |||
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"I know its slighty off topic but if urge anyone to watch that Michael Moore film and the water pollution scandal. Cracking film . Shocked how Obama behaved . " I know He just sold them out | |||
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"I know its slighty off topic but if urge anyone to watch that Michael Moore film and the water pollution scandal. Cracking film . Shocked how Obama behaved . I know He just sold them out" Fahrenheit is the name of the film. It shows who’s really in charge in many ways. | |||
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"I know its slighty off topic but if urge anyone to watch that Michael Moore film and the water pollution scandal. Cracking film . Shocked how Obama behaved . I know He just sold them out Fahrenheit is the name of the film. It shows who’s really in charge in many ways. " Yep. You would think that type of thing would happen in some corrupt back water | |||
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"Not to mention the chlorine washed salad that we all already eat Any answer like this shows a fundamental lack of knowledge on the subject. True. We can't all be experts on every subject like yourself, it's amazing how you do it. Where did you gain your knowledge of the food industry from? He's right though and you don't need to be any form of expert to know something that has had so much media attention over the years like America's process of chlorine washing of meat and why we don't allow it and the reasons for not doing it. Frankly it's amazing people who jump into these discussions still don't know or understand the basic facts that are being discussed and say something like the chlorine salad faux pas
Well maybe you can educate me. Why is salad chlorine washed and is it a good thing? "Ok, lets see if you can answer it? What is the difference between a salad and meat in terms of how it is eaten? I'm not including Sushi in this to give you a clue! | |||
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"Brussels idea of animal welfare, from a couple of weeks ago: “Undercover footage published on Thursday appears to show pig cannibalism and other serious issues at a supplier for a Nestlé-owned brand of frankfurter sold by most major supermarkets. Waitrose has suspended the pork products by bestselling French brand Herta while it investigates. Herta is being sued by campaigners for animal mistreatment and misleading consumers. The brand, which is sold in UK supermarkets, is 60% owned by Spanish food company Casa Tarradellas and 40% by Nestlé. The video footage published by French animal welfare group, L214, appears to show pig cannibalism, dead animals lying in pens, and pigs in overcrowded pens climbing over one other. In one section a sow, which appears to be struggling to stand in a narrow farrowing crate with no bedding, slips and squashes at least one piglet.” Yet you focus on theoretical supply situations from other countries. You’re a bit like our home grown climate activists who moan about lack of loft insulation, when they should all be off protesting in China and stopping them building a coal fired power station every week. All of which is horrid and band in both the U.K. and the EU Poor animal treatment is legal is the USA . " Well the EU doesn’t seem bothered about enforcing any animal welfare standards : “While the European Union (EU) is often held up as a high global benchmark for the stringency of their animal welfare laws, many EU countries appear to fall short when applying these laws on the ground. ~33 million to ~97 million hens (9%-27% of EU total) a year may have illegally remained in conventional battery cages for up to five years if additional enforcement action was not taken. ~1 million to ~2.5 million sows (8%-19% of EU total) a year may have illegally remained in individual stalls for up to seven years if additional enforcement action was not taken. ~52 million to ~116 million pigs (35%-86% of EU total) on average are being tail docked without the required alternative methods for reducing tail biting being implemented. ~1.5 billion to ~4.6 billion broiler chickens slaughtered each year (21%-66% of EU total) may be stocked at high densities without the required additional welfare conditions. Millions of Euros in EU rural development funds available for improving animal welfare goes unused or poorly used.“ | |||
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"Not to mention the chlorine washed salad that we all already eat Any answer like this shows a fundamental lack of knowledge on the subject. True. We can't all be experts on every subject like yourself, it's amazing how you do it. Where did you gain your knowledge of the food industry from? He's right though and you don't need to be any form of expert to know something that has had so much media attention over the years like America's process of chlorine washing of meat and why we don't allow it and the reasons for not doing it. Frankly it's amazing people who jump into these discussions still don't know or understand the basic facts that are being discussed and say something like the chlorine salad faux pas
Well maybe you can educate me. Why is salad chlorine washed and is it a good thing?
Ok, lets see if you can answer it? What is the difference between a salad and meat in terms of how it is eaten? I'm not including Sushi in this to give you a clue!"Have you never tried steak tartare? So are the incidences of food poisoning from eating chicken higher in the USA than in the UK? As a food expert this should be an easy one for you | |||
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"Brussels idea of animal welfare, from a couple of weeks ago: “Undercover footage published on Thursday appears to show pig cannibalism and other serious issues at a supplier for a Nestlé-owned brand of frankfurter sold by most major supermarkets. Waitrose has suspended the pork products by bestselling French brand Herta while it investigates. Herta is being sued by campaigners for animal mistreatment and misleading consumers. The brand, which is sold in UK supermarkets, is 60% owned by Spanish food company Casa Tarradellas and 40% by Nestlé. The video footage published by French animal welfare group, L214, appears to show pig cannibalism, dead animals lying in pens, and pigs in overcrowded pens climbing over one other. In one section a sow, which appears to be struggling to stand in a narrow farrowing crate with no bedding, slips and squashes at least one piglet.” Yet you focus on theoretical supply situations from other countries. You’re a bit like our home grown climate activists who moan about lack of loft insulation, when they should all be off protesting in China and stopping them building a coal fired power station every week. All of which is horrid and band in both the U.K. and the EU Poor animal treatment is legal is the USA . " The uk banned sow stalls years before the EU did and even today they are in use in france, belgium and Greece as their governments are very slack on enforcing it. The US has banned all caged egg production while the EU still allows "enriched" cages. So it's not all one way. | |||
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"Not to mention the chlorine washed salad that we all already eat Any answer like this shows a fundamental lack of knowledge on the subject. True. We can't all be experts on every subject like yourself, it's amazing how you do it. Where did you gain your knowledge of the food industry from? He's right though and you don't need to be any form of expert to know something that has had so much media attention over the years like America's process of chlorine washing of meat and why we don't allow it and the reasons for not doing it. Frankly it's amazing people who jump into these discussions still don't know or understand the basic facts that are being discussed and say something like the chlorine salad faux pas
Well maybe you can educate me. Why is salad chlorine washed and is it a good thing?
Ok, lets see if you can answer it? What is the difference between a salad and meat in terms of how it is eaten? I'm not including Sushi in this to give you a clue!
Have you never tried steak tartare?
So are the incidences of food poisoning from eating chicken higher in the USA than in the UK? As a food expert this should be an easy one for you "Answer the question! Are you starting to see how comparing meat and salad is silly? And yes, food poising in the US is estimated to hit 14.7 % of the population compared to 1.5% over here. The standards also allow foreign bodies in some food stuffs including maggots, rat hairs and rodent faeces. Good times. | |||
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"Not to mention the chlorine washed salad that we all already eat Any answer like this shows a fundamental lack of knowledge on the subject. True. We can't all be experts on every subject like yourself, it's amazing how you do it. Where did you gain your knowledge of the food industry from? He's right though and you don't need to be any form of expert to know something that has had so much media attention over the years like America's process of chlorine washing of meat and why we don't allow it and the reasons for not doing it. Frankly it's amazing people who jump into these discussions still don't know or understand the basic facts that are being discussed and say something like the chlorine salad faux pas
Well maybe you can educate me. Why is salad chlorine washed and is it a good thing?
Ok, lets see if you can answer it? What is the difference between a salad and meat in terms of how it is eaten? I'm not including Sushi in this to give you a clue!
Have you never tried steak tartare?
So are the incidences of food poisoning from eating chicken higher in the USA than in the UK? As a food expert this should be an easy one for you "Like to see you eat raw chicken!, actually no I wouldn’t. Full fact keeps being quoted on here so I thought I’d check their take on this. U.K. 1 in 66 people get food related illness . USA 1 in 6 people get food related illness. Pretty staggering difference. Interesting quote below. When this piece was first published we referred to these levels as “acceptable levels”, which doesn’t accurately convey their purpose. We have since written a more in-depth piece about US and UK food hygiene rules, which you can read here. Under the entry for ground paprika, the enforcement level is above an “average of more than 11 rodent hairs per 25 grams”. For whole ginger the level is 3mg or more of mammal excrement per pound of product. For peanut butter it’s “30 or more insect fragments per 100 grams” and for citrus juices it’s “1 or more maggots per 250ml”. So if you have just half a maggot in your peanut butter it’s good to go.  | |||
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"Not to mention the chlorine washed salad that we all already eat Any answer like this shows a fundamental lack of knowledge on the subject. True. We can't all be experts on every subject like yourself, it's amazing how you do it. Where did you gain your knowledge of the food industry from? He's right though and you don't need to be any form of expert to know something that has had so much media attention over the years like America's process of chlorine washing of meat and why we don't allow it and the reasons for not doing it. Frankly it's amazing people who jump into these discussions still don't know or understand the basic facts that are being discussed and say something like the chlorine salad faux pas
Well maybe you can educate me. Why is salad chlorine washed and is it a good thing?
Ok, lets see if you can answer it? What is the difference between a salad and meat in terms of how it is eaten? I'm not including Sushi in this to give you a clue!
Have you never tried steak tartare?
So are the incidences of food poisoning from eating chicken higher in the USA than in the UK? As a food expert this should be an easy one for you
Answer the question! Are you starting to see how comparing meat and salad is silly?
And yes, food poising in the US is estimated to hit 14.7 % of the population compared to 1.5% over here.
The standards also allow foreign bodies in some food stuffs including maggots, rat hairs and rodent faeces.
Good times. "I wasn't comparing meat and salad I was simply saying that chlorine is used for pretty much the same thing. And I did specifically ask about chicken? | |||
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"Not to mention the chlorine washed salad that we all already eat Any answer like this shows a fundamental lack of knowledge on the subject. True. We can't all be experts on every subject like yourself, it's amazing how you do it. Where did you gain your knowledge of the food industry from? He's right though and you don't need to be any form of expert to know something that has had so much media attention over the years like America's process of chlorine washing of meat and why we don't allow it and the reasons for not doing it. Frankly it's amazing people who jump into these discussions still don't know or understand the basic facts that are being discussed and say something like the chlorine salad faux pas
Well maybe you can educate me. Why is salad chlorine washed and is it a good thing?
Ok, lets see if you can answer it? What is the difference between a salad and meat in terms of how it is eaten? I'm not including Sushi in this to give you a clue!
Have you never tried steak tartare?
So are the incidences of food poisoning from eating chicken higher in the USA than in the UK? As a food expert this should be an easy one for you
Answer the question! Are you starting to see how comparing meat and salad is silly?
And yes, food poising in the US is estimated to hit 14.7 % of the population compared to 1.5% over here.
The standards also allow foreign bodies in some food stuffs including maggots, rat hairs and rodent faeces.
Good times.
I wasn't comparing meat and salad I was simply saying that chlorine is used for pretty much the same thing. And I did specifically ask about chicken? "You were comparing meat with salad, otherwise why mention it? And it's totally different as salad is a raw product that prerequisites/kill steps in food safety do not work on because you cant cook or freeze it. | |||
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"Not to mention the chlorine washed salad that we all already eat Any answer like this shows a fundamental lack of knowledge on the subject. True. We can't all be experts on every subject like yourself, it's amazing how you do it. Where did you gain your knowledge of the food industry from? He's right though and you don't need to be any form of expert to know something that has had so much media attention over the years like America's process of chlorine washing of meat and why we don't allow it and the reasons for not doing it. Frankly it's amazing people who jump into these discussions still don't know or understand the basic facts that are being discussed and say something like the chlorine salad faux pas
Well maybe you can educate me. Why is salad chlorine washed and is it a good thing?
Ok, lets see if you can answer it? What is the difference between a salad and meat in terms of how it is eaten? I'm not including Sushi in this to give you a clue!
Have you never tried steak tartare?
So are the incidences of food poisoning from eating chicken higher in the USA than in the UK? As a food expert this should be an easy one for you
Answer the question! Are you starting to see how comparing meat and salad is silly?
And yes, food poising in the US is estimated to hit 14.7 % of the population compared to 1.5% over here.
The standards also allow foreign bodies in some food stuffs including maggots, rat hairs and rodent faeces.
Good times.
I wasn't comparing meat and salad I was simply saying that chlorine is used for pretty much the same thing. And I did specifically ask about chicken? ""Poultry and eggs remain the major source of food poisoning in the US Poultry and eggs continue to cause substantial foodborne illnesses in the United States. Findings published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) revealed that both campylobacter and salmonella enteritidis increased last year. Campylobacter– with poultry as a major source – is still the most commonly identified foodborne illness since tracking began in 2013. Incidence levels rose by 12% compared with 2015-7 baseline figures. It causes diarrhoea, sometimes bloody, and 18% of people are hospitalised. Last August, the US Food Safety and Inspection Service began using a new testing method and in a study of that method, Campylobacter was isolated from 18% of chicken carcases and 16% of chicken parts sampled. FSIS currently makes aggregated test results available and intends to update performance standards for Campylobacter contamination. The report added that the incidence of Enteritidis, the most common Salmonella subtype for which poultry and eggs are often the source, has not fallen in the past decade. Salmonella cases rose by 9% compared to 2015-7." according the CDC they are the biggest cause of foodbourne illness, given that they have a problem 10 times worse than us I'd say it's pretty obviously higher! | |||
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"Not to mention the chlorine washed salad that we all already eat Any answer like this shows a fundamental lack of knowledge on the subject. True. We can't all be experts on every subject like yourself, it's amazing how you do it. Where did you gain your knowledge of the food industry from? He's right though and you don't need to be any form of expert to know something that has had so much media attention over the years like America's process of chlorine washing of meat and why we don't allow it and the reasons for not doing it. Frankly it's amazing people who jump into these discussions still don't know or understand the basic facts that are being discussed and say something like the chlorine salad faux pas
Well maybe you can educate me. Why is salad chlorine washed and is it a good thing?
Ok, lets see if you can answer it? What is the difference between a salad and meat in terms of how it is eaten? I'm not including Sushi in this to give you a clue!
Have you never tried steak tartare?
So are the incidences of food poisoning from eating chicken higher in the USA than in the UK? As a food expert this should be an easy one for you
Answer the question! Are you starting to see how comparing meat and salad is silly?
And yes, food poising in the US is estimated to hit 14.7 % of the population compared to 1.5% over here.
The standards also allow foreign bodies in some food stuffs including maggots, rat hairs and rodent faeces.
Good times.
I wasn't comparing meat and salad I was simply saying that chlorine is used for pretty much the same thing. And I did specifically ask about chicken?
"Poultry and eggs remain the major source of food poisoning in the US
Poultry and eggs continue to cause substantial foodborne illnesses in the United States.
Findings published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) revealed that both campylobacter and salmonella enteritidis increased last year.
Campylobacter– with poultry as a major source – is still the most commonly identified foodborne illness since tracking began in 2013. Incidence levels rose by 12% compared with 2015-7 baseline figures. It causes diarrhoea, sometimes bloody, and 18% of people are hospitalised. Last August, the US Food Safety and Inspection Service began using a new testing method and in a study of that method, Campylobacter was isolated from 18% of chicken carcases and 16% of chicken parts sampled. FSIS currently makes aggregated test results available and intends to update performance standards for Campylobacter contamination.
The report added that the incidence of Enteritidis, the most common Salmonella subtype for which poultry and eggs are often the source, has not fallen in the past decade. Salmonella cases rose by 9% compared to 2015-7."
according the CDC they are the biggest cause of foodbourne illness, given that they have a problem 10 times worse than us I'd say it's pretty obviously higher!"Thank you. Well I don't eat chicken anyway but if that's the case then I think most people will leave it on the shelves  | |||
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"Not to mention the chlorine washed salad that we all already eat Any answer like this shows a fundamental lack of knowledge on the subject. True. We can't all be experts on every subject like yourself, it's amazing how you do it. Where did you gain your knowledge of the food industry from? He's right though and you don't need to be any form of expert to know something that has had so much media attention over the years like America's process of chlorine washing of meat and why we don't allow it and the reasons for not doing it. Frankly it's amazing people who jump into these discussions still don't know or understand the basic facts that are being discussed and say something like the chlorine salad faux pas
Well maybe you can educate me. Why is salad chlorine washed and is it a good thing?
Ok, lets see if you can answer it? What is the difference between a salad and meat in terms of how it is eaten? I'm not including Sushi in this to give you a clue!
Have you never tried steak tartare?
So are the incidences of food poisoning from eating chicken higher in the USA than in the UK? As a food expert this should be an easy one for you
Answer the question! Are you starting to see how comparing meat and salad is silly?
And yes, food poising in the US is estimated to hit 14.7 % of the population compared to 1.5% over here.
The standards also allow foreign bodies in some food stuffs including maggots, rat hairs and rodent faeces.
Good times.
I wasn't comparing meat and salad I was simply saying that chlorine is used for pretty much the same thing. And I did specifically ask about chicken?
"Poultry and eggs remain the major source of food poisoning in the US
Poultry and eggs continue to cause substantial foodborne illnesses in the United States.
Findings published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) revealed that both campylobacter and salmonella enteritidis increased last year.
Campylobacter– with poultry as a major source – is still the most commonly identified foodborne illness since tracking began in 2013. Incidence levels rose by 12% compared with 2015-7 baseline figures. It causes diarrhoea, sometimes bloody, and 18% of people are hospitalised. Last August, the US Food Safety and Inspection Service began using a new testing method and in a study of that method, Campylobacter was isolated from 18% of chicken carcases and 16% of chicken parts sampled. FSIS currently makes aggregated test results available and intends to update performance standards for Campylobacter contamination.
The report added that the incidence of Enteritidis, the most common Salmonella subtype for which poultry and eggs are often the source, has not fallen in the past decade. Salmonella cases rose by 9% compared to 2015-7."
according the CDC they are the biggest cause of foodbourne illness, given that they have a problem 10 times worse than us I'd say it's pretty obviously higher!
Thank you. Well I don't eat chicken anyway but if that's the case then I think most people will leave it on the shelves "That's ok for you then, I love chicken probably my favourite meat. | |||
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"23 million fall ill with food poisoning in the eu every year resulting in 4654 deaths. Good hygiene and correct cooking helps. "Both of those things are post production, so irrelevant to what we are talking about. | |||
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"23 million fall ill with food poisoning in the eu every year resulting in 4654 deaths. Good hygiene and correct cooking helps. "Unless you mean Hygiene in the production process or rearing in which case you are backing up the argument against Chlorine washing chicken? | |||
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"23 million fall ill with food poisoning in the eu every year resulting in 4654 deaths. Good hygiene and correct cooking helps. "2.4 million fall ill with food poisoning in the UK ever year and 48 million in the USA? | |||
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"23 million fall ill with food poisoning in the eu every year resulting in 4654 deaths. Good hygiene and correct cooking helps.
Unless you mean Hygiene in the production process or rearing in which case you are backing up the argument against Chlorine washing chicken?"Did you know less than 5% processing plants use a chlorine wash and a EFSA study in 2005 found it to be of no safety concern. Also it was used as a political argument to protect eu chicken farmers . | |||
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"23 million fall ill with food poisoning in the eu every year resulting in 4654 deaths. Good hygiene and correct cooking helps.
Unless you mean Hygiene in the production process or rearing in which case you are backing up the argument against Chlorine washing chicken?Did you know less than 5% processing plants use a chlorine wash and a EFSA study in 2005 found it to be of no safety concern.
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 Every minute, 44 people – more than 23 million per year – fall sick from eating contaminated food, and an estimated 4700 per year lose their lives. This is according to a review of the most recent available data entitled “The burden of foodborne diseases in the WHO European Region”, and it represents only the tip of the iceberg: the true number of cases is unknown.
These findings are presented on the occasion of the first-ever World Food Safety Day on 7 June 2019. The WHO European Region will join partners across the world in celebrating the day to raise awareness and promote action to improve food safety.
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"I dont read all that cut and paste tech jargon anyone can do that. Every minute, 44 people – more than 23 million per year – fall sick from eating contaminated food, and an estimated 4700 per year lose their lives. This is according to a review of the most recent available data entitled “The burden of foodborne diseases in the WHO European Region”, and it represents only the tip of the iceberg: the true number of cases is unknown.
These findings are presented on the occasion of the first-ever World Food Safety Day on 7 June 2019. The WHO European Region will join partners across the world in celebrating the day to raise awareness and promote action to improve food safety.
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"I dont read all that cut and paste tech jargon anyone can do that. Every minute, 44 people – more than 23 million per year – fall sick from eating contaminated food, and an estimated 4700 per year lose their lives. This is according to a review of the most recent available data entitled “The burden of foodborne diseases in the WHO European Region”,
and it represents only the tip of the iceberg: the true number of cases is unknown.
These findings are presented on the occasion of the first-ever World Food Safety Day on 7 June 2019. The WHO European Region will join partners across the world in celebrating the day to raise awareness and promote action to improve food safety.
"I don't listen to experts""And then you copied and pasted something, comedy gold. You utter farce. | |||
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"I dont read all that cut and paste tech jargon anyone can do that. Every minute, 44 people – more than 23 million per year – fall sick from eating contaminated food, and an estimated 4700 per year lose their lives. This is according to a review of the most recent available data entitled “The burden of foodborne diseases in the WHO European Region”,
and it represents only the tip of the iceberg: the true number of cases is unknown.
These findings are presented on the occasion of the first-ever World Food Safety Day on 7 June 2019. The WHO European Region will join partners across the world in celebrating the day to raise awareness and promote action to improve food safety.
"I don't listen to experts"
And then you copied and pasted something, comedy gold. You utter farce."Exactly thats what i said anyone can do it. | |||
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"I dont read all that cut and paste tech jargon anyone can do that. Every minute, 44 people – more than 23 million per year – fall sick from eating contaminated food, and an estimated 4700 per year lose their lives. This is according to a review of the most recent available data entitled “The burden of foodborne diseases in the WHO European Region”,
and it represents only the tip of the iceberg: the true number of cases is unknown.
These findings are presented on the occasion of the first-ever World Food Safety Day on 7 June 2019. The WHO European Region will join partners across the world in celebrating the day to raise awareness and promote action to improve food safety.
"I don't listen to experts"
And then you copied and pasted something, comedy gold. You utter farce.Exactly thats what i said anyone can do it. "You said you specifically ignored it, but expect others to pay attention to yours, does it only count when you do it then? | |||
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"I dont read all that cut and paste tech jargon anyone can do that. Every minute, 44 people – more than 23 million per year – fall sick from eating contaminated food, and an estimated 4700 per year lose their lives. This is according to a review of the most recent available data entitled “The burden of foodborne diseases in the WHO European Region”,
and it represents only the tip of the iceberg: the true number of cases is unknown.
These findings are presented on the occasion of the first-ever World Food Safety Day on 7 June 2019. The WHO European Region will join partners across the world in celebrating the day to raise awareness and promote action to improve food safety.
"I don't listen to experts"
And then you copied and pasted something, comedy gold. You utter farce.Exactly thats what i said anyone can do it.
You said you specifically ignored it, but expect others to pay attention to yours, does it only count when you do it then?"I do anyone can cut and paste the bits they want you to see to back up their point of view just like i did.Personally i like to read the whole thing not just the bits someone wants me to read. | |||
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"You ever been to the states?" No, and what's that got to do with anything? | |||
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"You ever been to the states? No, and what's that got to do with anything? " I thought not they have strict rules of taking food into the country and you wouldnt have got in with all your sandwiches.  | |||
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"You ever been to the states? No, and what's that got to do with anything? I thought not they have strict rules of taking food into the country and you wouldnt have got in with all your sandwiches. "Wow, you found cap lock. Congratulations. | |||
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"You ever been to the states? No, and what's that got to do with anything? I thought not they have strict rules of taking food into the country and you wouldnt have got in with all your sandwiches.
Wow, you found cap lock. Congratulations." is that the best you have? Its never held me back in the past but i am very grateful you pointed out how to do it.
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"You ever been to the states? No, and what's that got to do with anything? I thought not they have strict rules of taking food into the country and you wouldnt have got in with all your sandwiches.
Wow, you found cap lock. Congratulations. is that the best you have? Its never held me back in the past but i am very grateful you pointed out how to do it.
You're never to old to learn. "I don't really need to say anymore, it's all been said above. | |||
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"I know its slighty off topic but if urge anyone to watch that Michael Moore film and the water pollution scandal. Cracking film . Shocked how Obama behaved . " why shocked how obama behaved??? he cut from same cloth as bush junior and senior and bill clinton.obama was just a bit more polished apart from that. he was just more of the same | |||
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"You ever been to the states? No, and what's that got to do with anything? I thought not they have strict rules of taking food into the country and you wouldnt have got in with all your sandwiches.
Wow, you found cap lock. Congratulations. is that the best you have? Its never held me back in the past but i am very grateful you pointed out how to do it.
You're never to old to learn.
I don't really need to say anymore, it's all been said above."Ok but do try visiting the states when possible they have some great food out there. | |||
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"Supermarket bosses continually say that this will be consumer led. Any agricultural product from the US will be clearly marked as such. People in the UK simply won't buy it. If it even makes its way here. Part of the discussion is to eliminate the need to show origin sours each on labelling so no you won’t know what’s in your cottage pie. Correction “Source of origin” " IIRC livestock can be moved from anywhere in the world to the U.K. & after three months can be called “Produce of GB” when it goes for the chop. If so which is the bigger con? S | |||
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"Supermarket bosses continually say that this will be consumer led. Any agricultural product from the US will be clearly marked as such. People in the UK simply won't buy it. If it even makes its way here. Part of the discussion is to eliminate the need to show origin sours each on labelling so no you won’t know what’s in your cottage pie. Correction “Source of origin” IIRC livestock can be moved from anywhere in the world to the U.K. & after three months can be called “Produce of GB” when it goes for the chop. If so which is the bigger con? S" Not for long boris is going to put a ban on shipping livestock. | |||
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"Brexits getting better. A seemingly reliance on fish (I hate fish!) And yummy puss Chicken. I’m going to become a militant vegan in the New Year and plague you all " Plants have feelings too. | |||
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"You ever been to the states? No, and what's that got to do with anything? I thought not they have strict rules of taking food into the country and you wouldnt have got in with all your sandwiches.
Wow, you found cap lock. Congratulations. is that the best you have? Its never held me back in the past but i am very grateful you pointed out how to do it.
You're never to old to learn. "costa it makes some feel better about themselves pointing out a spelling mistake or poor grammar it’s the only bit of fun they get bless em | |||
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"You ever been to the states? No, and what's that got to do with anything? I thought not they have strict rules of taking food into the country and you wouldnt have got in with all your sandwiches.
Wow, you found cap lock. Congratulations. is that the best you have? Its never held me back in the past but i am very grateful you pointed out how to do it.
You're never to old to learn. costa it makes some feel better about themselves pointing out a spelling mistake or poor grammar it’s the only bit of fun they get bless em "Kids ehh | |||
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"Chicken is chlorinated in the US because the hygiene requirements and welfare are much worse than here. The carcasses are so contaminated they are washed in chlorine to basically bleach them to kill off bacteria from the poor housing standards. Spare a thought for the quality of life of those animals as well as anything else." that's why I don't eat any chicken, it ain't much better here | |||
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"Chicken is chlorinated in the US because the hygiene requirements and welfare are much worse than here. The carcasses are so contaminated they are washed in chlorine to basically bleach them to kill off bacteria from the poor housing standards. Spare a thought for the quality of life of those animals as well as anything else. that's why I don't eat any chicken, it ain't much better here "Nice and rural here free range. | |||
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"Not to mention the chlorine washed salad that we all already eat Ok so you do know little of U.S. food standards The problem is not the chlorine fella The problem is what that chlorine is trying to cover up in the meat Chlorine is totally safe The U.S. wash their meat in it to try wash away the bacteria and infections that their poor standards allow fester in the animals poor lives" Chlorine is not safe, true it is used to kill the bugs and it has been used here on chickens for a well respected super store that is well known for it clothes. | |||
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"Not to mention the chlorine washed salad that we all already eat Ok so you do know little of U.S. food standards The problem is not the chlorine fella The problem is what that chlorine is trying to cover up in the meat Chlorine is totally safe The U.S. wash their meat in it to try wash away the bacteria and infections that their poor standards allow fester in the animals poor lives Chlorine is not safe, true it is used to kill the bugs and it has been used here on chickens for a well respected super store that is well known for it clothes. " well the EFSA say its safe and im sure they wouldn't put it in tap water if it wasnt.  | |||
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"I know its slighty off topic but if urge anyone to watch that Michael Moore film and the water pollution scandal. Cracking film . Shocked how Obama behaved . why shocked how obama behaved??? he cut from same cloth as bush junior and senior and bill clinton.obama was just a bit more polished apart from that. he was just more of the same" Sadly true but I was hoping as the first black president he might be different. Money is the boss as usual | |||
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"I know its slighty off topic but if urge anyone to watch that Michael Moore film and the water pollution scandal. Cracking film . Shocked how Obama behaved . why shocked how obama behaved??? he cut from same cloth as bush junior and senior and bill clinton.obama was just a bit more polished apart from that. he was just more of the same Sadly true but I was hoping as the first black president he might be different. Money is the boss as usual " Why would he have been different? You sit at the top table you are someones bitch dont matter what colour you are | |||
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"You ever been to the states? No, and what's that got to do with anything? I thought not they have strict rules of taking food into the country and you wouldnt have got in with all your sandwiches.
Wow, you found cap lock. Congratulations. is that the best you have? Its never held me back in the past but i am very grateful you pointed out how to do it.
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I don't really need to say anymore, it's all been said above.Ok but do try visiting the states when possible they have some great food out there. "I think Chicago full on hot dog amazing New York burger away from tourist area bloody tasty. Texan steak fabulous I admit even though not healthy. But otherwise fine dining just doesn’t exist . Too much salt and way too much sugar!! | |||
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"Correct me if im wrong but everyone banging on about the u.s being so bad about food wasnt we in the e.u when horsemeat was being passed off as beef?personaly i not got a prob about eating horse.but eu standards cant be much better if horse meat can be passed off as beef" Europe and U.K. definitely not perfect in any shape or form that’s a fact, but US dangerous it’s so bad! | |||
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"Correct me if im wrong but everyone banging on about the u.s being so bad about food wasnt we in the e.u when horsemeat was being passed off as beef?personaly i not got a prob about eating horse.but eu standards cant be much better if horse meat can be passed off as beef That was illegal. Nothing to do with the EU." But surley it should of never been allowed to have happend if ours and the e.us standards are so much better it should of never been able to get in the food chain.like i have said before im really not botherd about being in or out of the e.u just seems to me that some on here think the e.u is perfect in everything they do.reality is those in charge here the u.s the e.u and most other places care more about corparations and banks than they do about people.but hey what do i know i dont even vote.mmmmm i wonder who will claim my un used vote for there argument | |||
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"Correct me if im wrong but everyone banging on about the u.s being so bad about food wasnt we in the e.u when horsemeat was being passed off as beef?personaly i not got a prob about eating horse.but eu standards cant be much better if horse meat can be passed off as beef That was illegal. Nothing to do with the EU. But surley it should of never been allowed to have happend if ours and the e.us standards are so much better it should of never been able to get in the food chain.like i have said before im really not botherd about being in or out of the e.u just seems to me that some on here think the e.u is perfect in everything they do.reality is those in charge here the u.s the e.u and most other places care more about corparations and banks than they do about people.but hey what do i know i dont even vote.mmmmm i wonder who will claim my un used vote for there argument" Are you suggesting it's impossible to break the law? And if someone somehow does manage to, it's the EUs fault? One of the more bizarre EU misconceptions I've heard. | |||
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"Correct me if im wrong but everyone banging on about the u.s being so bad about food wasnt we in the e.u when horsemeat was being passed off as beef?personaly i not got a prob about eating horse.but eu standards cant be much better if horse meat can be passed off as beef That was illegal. Nothing to do with the EU. But surley it should of never been allowed to have happend if ours and the e.us standards are so much better it should of never been able to get in the food chain.like i have said before im really not botherd about being in or out of the e.u just seems to me that some on here think the e.u is perfect in everything they do.reality is those in charge here the u.s the e.u and most other places care more about corparations and banks than they do about people.but hey what do i know i dont even vote.mmmmm i wonder who will claim my un used vote for there argument" Spot on, it’s a fantasy that Brussels have got any sort of handle on animal welfare. Even where there are laws, they are not being enforced. Even our red tractor scheme that someone referenced above can’t be trusted: “Pigs were also filmed being hit with forks, having metal gates repeatedly slammed into them, and in one case even having marker paint sprayed up its nose. Three workers who have admitted animal cruelty offences in a prosecution brought by the RSPCA are due to be sentenced later this month. Gavin Hardy, 39, Troy Wagstaff, 30, and Artirs Grogprkevs, 31, have been warned that they face being jailed. Incredibly, Fir Tree Farm in Goxhill, Lincolnshire, was accredited to the Red Tractor food labelling scheme – motto: “Safe, traceable, and farmed with care”. | |||
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"Correct me if im wrong but everyone banging on about the u.s being so bad about food wasnt we in the e.u when horsemeat was being passed off as beef?personaly i not got a prob about eating horse.but eu standards cant be much better if horse meat can be passed off as beef That was illegal. Nothing to do with the EU. But surley it should of never been allowed to have happend if ours and the e.us standards are so much better it should of never been able to get in the food chain.like i have said before im really not botherd about being in or out of the e.u just seems to me that some on here think the e.u is perfect in everything they do.reality is those in charge here the u.s the e.u and most other places care more about corparations and banks than they do about people.but hey what do i know i dont even vote.mmmmm i wonder who will claim my un used vote for there argument Spot on, it’s a fantasy that Brussels have got any sort of handle on animal welfare. Even where there are laws, they are not being enforced. Even our red tractor scheme that someone referenced above can’t be trusted: “Pigs were also filmed being hit with forks, having metal gates repeatedly slammed into them, and in one case even having marker paint sprayed up its nose. Three workers who have admitted animal cruelty offences in a prosecution brought by the RSPCA are due to be sentenced later this month. Gavin Hardy, 39, Troy Wagstaff, 30, and Artirs Grogprkevs, 31, have been warned that they face being jailed. Incredibly, Fir Tree Farm in Goxhill, Lincolnshire, was accredited to the Red Tractor food labelling scheme – motto: “Safe, traceable, and farmed with care”." So these individuals were harming animals on behalf of the EU? Nearly every post from you guys gets more and more bizarre. Can I join in the competition to make up the most outlandish links to the EU? Did you hear that Genghis khan rampaged through central Asia on direct instructions from Brussels. And if anyone questions this statement, I will refuse to acknowledge any information, and just belittle you for not being positive enough. | |||
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"Correct me if im wrong but everyone banging on about the u.s being so bad about food wasnt we in the e.u when horsemeat was being passed off as beef?personaly i not got a prob about eating horse.but eu standards cant be much better if horse meat can be passed off as beef That was illegal. Nothing to do with the EU. But surley it should of never been allowed to have happend if ours and the e.us standards are so much better it should of never been able to get in the food chain.like i have said before im really not botherd about being in or out of the e.u just seems to me that some on here think the e.u is perfect in everything they do.reality is those in charge here the u.s the e.u and most other places care more about corparations and banks than they do about people.but hey what do i know i dont even vote.mmmmm i wonder who will claim my un used vote for there argument Are you suggesting it's impossible to break the law? And if someone somehow does manage to, it's the EUs fault? One of the more bizarre EU misconceptions I've heard." but surley if the checks that are in place are so good it shouldnt be able to happen.and it wasnt just a one off was it? it was in all sorts of things.like i said i no problem eating horse meat i have done many times but surley it shouldnt be able to be passed off as beef if the rules are so strict.just like those who voted leave those who voted remain belive what suits there argument.me thinks both sides are more alike than they would care to admit lol.gona be a bit pissed off when its all done and dusted as ive had hours of amusment watching peeps lise theee shit about brexit over the last coupe of years.shame it cant be dragged oyt for a few more years | |||
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"Correct me if im wrong but everyone banging on about the u.s being so bad about food wasnt we in the e.u when horsemeat was being passed off as beef?personaly i not got a prob about eating horse.but eu standards cant be much better if horse meat can be passed off as beef That was illegal. Nothing to do with the EU. But surley it should of never been allowed to have happend if ours and the e.us standards are so much better it should of never been able to get in the food chain.like i have said before im really not botherd about being in or out of the e.u just seems to me that some on here think the e.u is perfect in everything they do.reality is those in charge here the u.s the e.u and most other places care more about corparations and banks than they do about people.but hey what do i know i dont even vote.mmmmm i wonder who will claim my un used vote for there argument Are you suggesting it's impossible to break the law? And if someone somehow does manage to, it's the EUs fault? One of the more bizarre EU misconceptions I've heard. but surley if the checks that are in place are so good it shouldnt be able to happen.and it wasnt just a one off was it? it was in all sorts of things.like i said i no problem eating horse meat i have done many times but surley it shouldnt be able to be passed off as beef if the rules are so strict.just like those who voted leave those who voted remain belive what suits there argument.me thinks both sides are more alike than they would care to admit lol.gona be a bit pissed off when its all done and dusted as ive had hours of amusment watching peeps lise theee shit about brexit over the last coupe of years.shame it cant be dragged oyt for a few more years" So what's your argument? We shouldn't bother with food safety standards because sometimes people will do things like pass off horse meat as beef? Which they found out about, and stopped. Because it was against the law. | |||
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"Correct me if im wrong but everyone banging on about the u.s being so bad about food wasnt we in the e.u when horsemeat was being passed off as beef?personaly i not got a prob about eating horse.but eu standards cant be much better if horse meat can be passed off as beef That was illegal. Nothing to do with the EU. But surley it should of never been allowed to have happend if ours and the e.us standards are so much better it should of never been able to get in the food chain.like i have said before im really not botherd about being in or out of the e.u just seems to me that some on here think the e.u is perfect in everything they do.reality is those in charge here the u.s the e.u and most other places care more about corparations and banks than they do about people.but hey what do i know i dont even vote.mmmmm i wonder who will claim my un used vote for there argument Spot on, it’s a fantasy that Brussels have got any sort of handle on animal welfare. Even where there are laws, they are not being enforced. Even our red tractor scheme that someone referenced above can’t be trusted: “Pigs were also filmed being hit with forks, having metal gates repeatedly slammed into them, and in one case even having marker paint sprayed up its nose. Three workers who have admitted animal cruelty offences in a prosecution brought by the RSPCA are due to be sentenced later this month. Gavin Hardy, 39, Troy Wagstaff, 30, and Artirs Grogprkevs, 31, have been warned that they face being jailed. Incredibly, Fir Tree Farm in Goxhill, Lincolnshire, was accredited to the Red Tractor food labelling scheme – motto: “Safe, traceable, and farmed with care”. So these individuals were harming animals on behalf of the EU? Nearly every post from you guys gets more and more bizarre. Can I join in the competition to make up the most outlandish links to the EU? Did you hear that Genghis khan rampaged through central Asia on direct instructions from Brussels. And if anyone questions this statement, I will refuse to acknowledge any information, and just belittle you for not being positive enough." reading your comments you seem to think im a brexit voter and a e.u hater sorry to dissapoint you but im neither .brexit and the e.u are really not that important to me. | |||
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"Correct me if im wrong but everyone banging on about the u.s being so bad about food wasnt we in the e.u when horsemeat was being passed off as beef?personaly i not got a prob about eating horse.but eu standards cant be much better if horse meat can be passed off as beef That was illegal. Nothing to do with the EU. But surley it should of never been allowed to have happend if ours and the e.us standards are so much better it should of never been able to get in the food chain.like i have said before im really not botherd about being in or out of the e.u just seems to me that some on here think the e.u is perfect in everything they do.reality is those in charge here the u.s the e.u and most other places care more about corparations and banks than they do about people.but hey what do i know i dont even vote.mmmmm i wonder who will claim my un used vote for there argument Are you suggesting it's impossible to break the law? And if someone somehow does manage to, it's the EUs fault? One of the more bizarre EU misconceptions I've heard. but surley if the checks that are in place are so good it shouldnt be able to happen.and it wasnt just a one off was it? it was in all sorts of things.like i said i no problem eating horse meat i have done many times but surley it shouldnt be able to be passed off as beef if the rules are so strict.just like those who voted leave those who voted remain belive what suits there argument.me thinks both sides are more alike than they would care to admit lol.gona be a bit pissed off when its all done and dusted as ive had hours of amusment watching peeps lise theee shit about brexit over the last coupe of years.shame it cant be dragged oyt for a few more years So what's your argument? We shouldn't bother with food safety standards because sometimes people will do things like pass off horse meat as beef? Which they found out about, and stopped. Because it was against the law. " Both the specific animal abuse examples I gave above were only discovered by animal rights activists, and I showed you an official report which stated that Brussels was not enforcing current animal welfare laws. | |||
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"Correct me if im wrong but everyone banging on about the u.s being so bad about food wasnt we in the e.u when horsemeat was being passed off as beef?personaly i not got a prob about eating horse.but eu standards cant be much better if horse meat can be passed off as beef That was illegal. Nothing to do with the EU. But surley it should of never been allowed to have happend if ours and the e.us standards are so much better it should of never been able to get in the food chain.like i have said before im really not botherd about being in or out of the e.u just seems to me that some on here think the e.u is perfect in everything they do.reality is those in charge here the u.s the e.u and most other places care more about corparations and banks than they do about people.but hey what do i know i dont even vote.mmmmm i wonder who will claim my un used vote for there argument Are you suggesting it's impossible to break the law? And if someone somehow does manage to, it's the EUs fault? One of the more bizarre EU misconceptions I've heard. but surley if the checks that are in place are so good it shouldnt be able to happen.and it wasnt just a one off was it? it was in all sorts of things.like i said i no problem eating horse meat i have done many times but surley it shouldnt be able to be passed off as beef if the rules are so strict.just like those who voted leave those who voted remain belive what suits there argument.me thinks both sides are more alike than they would care to admit lol.gona be a bit pissed off when its all done and dusted as ive had hours of amusment watching peeps lise theee shit about brexit over the last coupe of years.shame it cant be dragged oyt for a few more years So what's your argument? We shouldn't bother with food safety standards because sometimes people will do things like pass off horse meat as beef? Which they found out about, and stopped. Because it was against the law. Both the specific animal abuse examples I gave above were only discovered by animal rights activists, and I showed you an official report which stated that Brussels was not enforcing current animal welfare laws." Maybe if you have a more positive outlook, and stop with all the doom and gloom eh! | |||
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"Correct me if im wrong but everyone banging on about the u.s being so bad about food wasnt we in the e.u when horsemeat was being passed off as beef?personaly i not got a prob about eating horse.but eu standards cant be much better if horse meat can be passed off as beef That was illegal. Nothing to do with the EU. But surley it should of never been allowed to have happend if ours and the e.us standards are so much better it should of never been able to get in the food chain.like i have said before im really not botherd about being in or out of the e.u just seems to me that some on here think the e.u is perfect in everything they do.reality is those in charge here the u.s the e.u and most other places care more about corparations and banks than they do about people.but hey what do i know i dont even vote.mmmmm i wonder who will claim my un used vote for there argument Are you suggesting it's impossible to break the law? And if someone somehow does manage to, it's the EUs fault? One of the more bizarre EU misconceptions I've heard. but surley if the checks that are in place are so good it shouldnt be able to happen.and it wasnt just a one off was it? it was in all sorts of things.like i said i no problem eating horse meat i have done many times but surley it shouldnt be able to be passed off as beef if the rules are so strict.just like those who voted leave those who voted remain belive what suits there argument.me thinks both sides are more alike than they would care to admit lol.gona be a bit pissed off when its all done and dusted as ive had hours of amusment watching peeps lise theee shit about brexit over the last coupe of years.shame it cant be dragged oyt for a few more years So what's your argument? We shouldn't bother with food safety standards because sometimes people will do things like pass off horse meat as beef? Which they found out about, and stopped. Because it was against the law. Both the specific animal abuse examples I gave above were only discovered by animal rights activists, and I showed you an official report which stated that Brussels was not enforcing current animal welfare laws. Maybe if you have a more positive outlook, and stop with all the doom and gloom eh!" If you concerned about our food take up hunting and gardening. Like we do. | |||
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"Correct me if im wrong but everyone banging on about the u.s being so bad about food wasnt we in the e.u when horsemeat was being passed off as beef?personaly i not got a prob about eating horse.but eu standards cant be much better if horse meat can be passed off as beef That was illegal. Nothing to do with the EU. But surley it should of never been allowed to have happend if ours and the e.us standards are so much better it should of never been able to get in the food chain.like i have said before im really not botherd about being in or out of the e.u just seems to me that some on here think the e.u is perfect in everything they do.reality is those in charge here the u.s the e.u and most other places care more about corparations and banks than they do about people.but hey what do i know i dont even vote.mmmmm i wonder who will claim my un used vote for there argument Are you suggesting it's impossible to break the law? And if someone somehow does manage to, it's the EUs fault? One of the more bizarre EU misconceptions I've heard. but surley if the checks that are in place are so good it shouldnt be able to happen.and it wasnt just a one off was it? it was in all sorts of things.like i said i no problem eating horse meat i have done many times but surley it shouldnt be able to be passed off as beef if the rules are so strict.just like those who voted leave those who voted remain belive what suits there argument.me thinks both sides are more alike than they would care to admit lol.gona be a bit pissed off when its all done and dusted as ive had hours of amusment watching peeps lise theee shit about brexit over the last coupe of years.shame it cant be dragged oyt for a few more years So what's your argument? We shouldn't bother with food safety standards because sometimes people will do things like pass off horse meat as beef? Which they found out about, and stopped. Because it was against the law. Both the specific animal abuse examples I gave above were only discovered by animal rights activists, and I showed you an official report which stated that Brussels was not enforcing current animal welfare laws. Maybe if you have a more positive outlook, and stop with all the doom and gloom eh! If you concerned about our food take up hunting and gardening. Like we do." | |||
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"Correct me if im wrong but everyone banging on about the u.s being so bad about food wasnt we in the e.u when horsemeat was being passed off as beef?personaly i not got a prob about eating horse.but eu standards cant be much better if horse meat can be passed off as beef That was illegal. Nothing to do with the EU. But surley it should of never been allowed to have happend if ours and the e.us standards are so much better it should of never been able to get in the food chain.like i have said before im really not botherd about being in or out of the e.u just seems to me that some on here think the e.u is perfect in everything they do.reality is those in charge here the u.s the e.u and most other places care more about corparations and banks than they do about people.but hey what do i know i dont even vote.mmmmm i wonder who will claim my un used vote for there argument Are you suggesting it's impossible to break the law? And if someone somehow does manage to, it's the EUs fault? One of the more bizarre EU misconceptions I've heard. but surley if the checks that are in place are so good it shouldnt be able to happen.and it wasnt just a one off was it? it was in all sorts of things.like i said i no problem eating horse meat i have done many times but surley it shouldnt be able to be passed off as beef if the rules are so strict.just like those who voted leave those who voted remain belive what suits there argument.me thinks both sides are more alike than they would care to admit lol.gona be a bit pissed off when its all done and dusted as ive had hours of amusment watching peeps lise theee shit about brexit over the last coupe of years.shame it cant be dragged oyt for a few more years So what's your argument? We shouldn't bother with food safety standards because sometimes people will do things like pass off horse meat as beef? Which they found out about, and stopped. Because it was against the law. Both the specific animal abuse examples I gave above were only discovered by animal rights activists, and I showed you an official report which stated that Brussels was not enforcing current animal welfare laws. Maybe if you have a more positive outlook, and stop with all the doom and gloom eh! If you concerned about our food take up hunting and gardening. Like we do. " Would love to see those Bison wandering through Nantwich! That must be some sight.
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"Correct me if im wrong but everyone banging on about the u.s being so bad about food wasnt we in the e.u when horsemeat was being passed off as beef?personaly i not got a prob about eating horse.but eu standards cant be much better if horse meat can be passed off as beef That was illegal. Nothing to do with the EU. But surley it should of never been allowed to have happend if ours and the e.us standards are so much better it should of never been able to get in the food chain.like i have said before im really not botherd about being in or out of the e.u just seems to me that some on here think the e.u is perfect in everything they do.reality is those in charge here the u.s the e.u and most other places care more about corparations and banks than they do about people.but hey what do i know i dont even vote.mmmmm i wonder who will claim my un used vote for there argument Are you suggesting it's impossible to break the law? And if someone somehow does manage to, it's the EUs fault? One of the more bizarre EU misconceptions I've heard. but surley if the checks that are in place are so good it shouldnt be able to happen.and it wasnt just a one off was it? it was in all sorts of things.like i said i no problem eating horse meat i have done many times but surley it shouldnt be able to be passed off as beef if the rules are so strict.just like those who voted leave those who voted remain belive what suits there argument.me thinks both sides are more alike than they would care to admit lol.gona be a bit pissed off when its all done and dusted as ive had hours of amusment watching peeps lise theee shit about brexit over the last coupe of years.shame it cant be dragged oyt for a few more years So what's your argument? We shouldn't bother with food safety standards because sometimes people will do things like pass off horse meat as beef? Which they found out about, and stopped. Because it was against the law. Both the specific animal abuse examples I gave above were only discovered by animal rights activists, and I showed you an official report which stated that Brussels was not enforcing current animal welfare laws. Maybe if you have a more positive outlook, and stop with all the doom and gloom eh! If you concerned about our food take up hunting and gardening. Like we do." Hunting in a city and gardening in concrete sounds like fun but food safety standards would be preferable. | |||
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"Correct me if im wrong but everyone banging on about the u.s being so bad about food wasnt we in the e.u when horsemeat was being passed off as beef?personaly i not got a prob about eating horse.but eu standards cant be much better if horse meat can be passed off as beef" So if companies break the rules on standards then the body that created the standards are at fault, OK
Someone gets caught for murder but the government's laws on murder aren't good enough...
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"Correct me if im wrong but everyone banging on about the u.s being so bad about food wasnt we in the e.u when horsemeat was being passed off as beef?personaly i not got a prob about eating horse.but eu standards cant be much better if horse meat can be passed off as beef So if companies break the rules on standards then the body that created the standards are at fault, OK
Someone gets caught for murder but the government's laws on murder aren't good enough...
Oooooookay... "I was just pointing out that ours and the e.us food standards aint as fail safe as some like to portray.no doubt your another who thinks im anti e.u because i point out that there not beyond reproach.leavers view of the e.u is that its all shit and remainers view of the e.u is that everything about it is perfect.two sides of the same coin most of you | |||
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"Correct me if im wrong but everyone banging on about the u.s being so bad about food wasnt we in the e.u when horsemeat was being passed off as beef?personaly i not got a prob about eating horse.but eu standards cant be much better if horse meat can be passed off as beef So if companies break the rules on standards then the body that created the standards are at fault, OK
Someone gets caught for murder but the government's laws on murder aren't good enough...
Oooooookay...
I was just pointing out that ours and the e.us food standards aint as fail safe as some like to portray.no doubt your another who thinks im anti e.u because i point out that there not beyond reproach.leavers view of the e.u is that its all shit and remainers view of the e.u is that everything about it is perfect.two sides of the same coin most of you"No matter who makes what rules or standards there will always be people breaking them. The difference with the US is that the rules leave a gaping wide open window for companies to use low standards then cover them up by allowing the meat to be chlorine washed. There's a very big difference. | |||
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"The American senior negotiator asked about demands to adapt UK food standards on beef and chicken, as well as reforms to the way the NHS pays for US medicines, Mr Lighthizer said: "These negotiations are ongoing. "You know, clearly, the US needs to get additional access to the agricultural market in the UK - that's an important part of it, each side has to get something out of it. These are complicated technical issues. And they're the kinds of things that will be worked out, I think, in the in the final stages of negotiation." To translate - more expensive drugs for the NHS, GM crops, Chlorinated chicken, Why as a nation are we prepared to allow American crap food to even be considered being allowed into this country? “The NHS is not for sale” no, but it’s about to get a lot more expensive. I’m not arguing about Brexit here. This is just wrong. We seem to be selling ourselves for a few pieces of silver. It’s our children that will suffer here. Yes tariffs on whiskey to the USA will drop. Have you seen Diageo and Chivas profits? They are huge and aren’t suffering due to tariffs. A deal at any cost? " From one bloc telling us what to do to another bloc telling us what to do? Britain is always going to be subservient to some economic force. What sovereignty do we have? We have the illusion of sovereignty in the minds of the deluded. | |||
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"The American senior negotiator asked about demands to adapt UK food standards on beef and chicken, as well as reforms to the way the NHS pays for US medicines, Mr Lighthizer said: "These negotiations are ongoing. "You know, clearly, the US needs to get additional access to the agricultural market in the UK - that's an important part of it, each side has to get something out of it. These are complicated technical issues. And they're the kinds of things that will be worked out, I think, in the in the final stages of negotiation." To translate - more expensive drugs for the NHS, GM crops, Chlorinated chicken, Why as a nation are we prepared to allow American crap food to even be considered being allowed into this country? “The NHS is not for sale” no, but it’s about to get a lot more expensive. I’m not arguing about Brexit here. This is just wrong. We seem to be selling ourselves for a few pieces of silver. It’s our children that will suffer here. Yes tariffs on whiskey to the USA will drop. Have you seen Diageo and Chivas profits? They are huge and aren’t suffering due to tariffs. A deal at any cost? From one bloc telling us what to do to another bloc telling us what to do? Britain is always going to be subservient to some economic force. What sovereignty do we have? We have the illusion of sovereignty in the minds of the deluded." If you read Yuval Noah Harari hepis thought on countries and governments are just structures created in our heads between humans to help us rationalise and keep order. Countries don’t exist in themselves only in our heads. | |||
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"The American senior negotiator asked about demands to adapt UK food standards on beef and chicken, as well as reforms to the way the NHS pays for US medicines, Mr Lighthizer said: "These negotiations are ongoing. "You know, clearly, the US needs to get additional access to the agricultural market in the UK - that's an important part of it, each side has to get something out of it. These are complicated technical issues. And they're the kinds of things that will be worked out, I think, in the in the final stages of negotiation." To translate - more expensive drugs for the NHS, GM crops, Chlorinated chicken, Why as a nation are we prepared to allow American crap food to even be considered being allowed into this country? “The NHS is not for sale” no, but it’s about to get a lot more expensive. I’m not arguing about Brexit here. This is just wrong. We seem to be selling ourselves for a few pieces of silver. It’s our children that will suffer here. Yes tariffs on whiskey to the USA will drop. Have you seen Diageo and Chivas profits? They are huge and aren’t suffering due to tariffs. A deal at any cost? From one bloc telling us what to do to another bloc telling us what to do? Britain is always going to be subservient to some economic force. What sovereignty do we have? We have the illusion of sovereignty in the minds of the deluded. If you read Yuval Noah Harari hepis thought on countries and governments are just structures created in our heads between humans to help us rationalise and keep order. Countries don’t exist in themselves only in our heads. " Try telling that to the guy in customs when travelling im sure they will understand. | |||
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"The American senior negotiator asked about demands to adapt UK food standards on beef and chicken, as well as reforms to the way the NHS pays for US medicines, Mr Lighthizer said: "These negotiations are ongoing. "You know, clearly, the US needs to get additional access to the agricultural market in the UK - that's an important part of it, each side has to get something out of it. These are complicated technical issues. And they're the kinds of things that will be worked out, I think, in the in the final stages of negotiation." To translate - more expensive drugs for the NHS, GM crops, Chlorinated chicken, Why as a nation are we prepared to allow American crap food to even be considered being allowed into this country? “The NHS is not for sale” no, but it’s about to get a lot more expensive. I’m not arguing about Brexit here. This is just wrong. We seem to be selling ourselves for a few pieces of silver. It’s our children that will suffer here. Yes tariffs on whiskey to the USA will drop. Have you seen Diageo and Chivas profits? They are huge and aren’t suffering due to tariffs. A deal at any cost? From one bloc telling us what to do to another bloc telling us what to do? Britain is always going to be subservient to some economic force. What sovereignty do we have? We have the illusion of sovereignty in the minds of the deluded. If you read Yuval Noah Harari hepis thought on countries and governments are just structures created in our heads between humans to help us rationalise and keep order. Countries don’t exist in themselves only in our heads. Try telling that to the guy in customs when travelling im sure they will understand. "He makes a valid point, we give power to institutions because we believe in them. If everyone rejected the institution then it fails, classic case, people rejecting the rules for Covid, it has failed on the basis that some people have rejected the rules which many abide by and now we have rising cases again. But getting back to the point we are patently swapping one trade regime for another, which is more horseshit piled on top of the Brexit tree. We are going to be the UK of A soon. | |||
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"The American senior negotiator asked about demands to adapt UK food standards on beef and chicken, as well as reforms to the way the NHS pays for US medicines, Mr Lighthizer said: "These negotiations are ongoing. "You know, clearly, the US needs to get additional access to the agricultural market in the UK - that's an important part of it, each side has to get something out of it. These are complicated technical issues. And they're the kinds of things that will be worked out, I think, in the in the final stages of negotiation." To translate - more expensive drugs for the NHS, GM crops, Chlorinated chicken, Why as a nation are we prepared to allow American crap food to even be considered being allowed into this country? “The NHS is not for sale” no, but it’s about to get a lot more expensive. I’m not arguing about Brexit here. This is just wrong. We seem to be selling ourselves for a few pieces of silver. It’s our children that will suffer here. Yes tariffs on whiskey to the USA will drop. Have you seen Diageo and Chivas profits? They are huge and aren’t suffering due to tariffs. A deal at any cost? From one bloc telling us what to do to another bloc telling us what to do? Britain is always going to be subservient to some economic force. What sovereignty do we have? We have the illusion of sovereignty in the minds of the deluded. If you read Yuval Noah Harari hepis thought on countries and governments are just structures created in our heads between humans to help us rationalise and keep order. Countries don’t exist in themselves only in our heads. Try telling that to the guy in customs when travelling im sure they will understand.
He makes a valid point, we give power to institutions because we believe in them. If everyone rejected the institution then it fails, classic case, people rejecting the rules for Covid, it has failed on the basis that some people have rejected the rules which many abide by and now we have rising cases again.
But getting back to the point we are patently swapping one trade regime for another, which is more horseshit piled on top of the Brexit tree.
We are going to be the UK of A soon."A bit dramatic dont you think im sure all you remainers were rejoicing in the factthat there wouldnt be a trade deal with the usa when biden won ,you are a fickle bunch. | |||
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"The American senior negotiator asked about demands to adapt UK food standards on beef and chicken, as well as reforms to the way the NHS pays for US medicines, Mr Lighthizer said: "These negotiations are ongoing. "You know, clearly, the US needs to get additional access to the agricultural market in the UK - that's an important part of it, each side has to get something out of it. These are complicated technical issues. And they're the kinds of things that will be worked out, I think, in the in the final stages of negotiation." To translate - more expensive drugs for the NHS, GM crops, Chlorinated chicken, Why as a nation are we prepared to allow American crap food to even be considered being allowed into this country? “The NHS is not for sale” no, but it’s about to get a lot more expensive. I’m not arguing about Brexit here. This is just wrong. We seem to be selling ourselves for a few pieces of silver. It’s our children that will suffer here. Yes tariffs on whiskey to the USA will drop. Have you seen Diageo and Chivas profits? They are huge and aren’t suffering due to tariffs. A deal at any cost? From one bloc telling us what to do to another bloc telling us what to do? Britain is always going to be subservient to some economic force. What sovereignty do we have? We have the illusion of sovereignty in the minds of the deluded. If you read Yuval Noah Harari hepis thought on countries and governments are just structures created in our heads between humans to help us rationalise and keep order. Countries don’t exist in themselves only in our heads. Try telling that to the guy in customs when travelling im sure they will understand.
He makes a valid point, we give power to institutions because we believe in them. If everyone rejected the institution then it fails, classic case, people rejecting the rules for Covid, it has failed on the basis that some people have rejected the rules which many abide by and now we have rising cases again.
But getting back to the point we are patently swapping one trade regime for another, which is more horseshit piled on top of the Brexit tree.
We are going to be the UK of A soon.A bit dramatic dont you think im sure all you remainers were rejoicing in the factthat there wouldnt be a trade deal with the usa when biden won ,you are a fickle bunch."Who was ‘rejoicing’ ? | |||
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"The American senior negotiator asked about demands to adapt UK food standards on beef and chicken, as well as reforms to the way the NHS pays for US medicines, Mr Lighthizer said: "These negotiations are ongoing. "You know, clearly, the US needs to get additional access to the agricultural market in the UK - that's an important part of it, each side has to get something out of it. These are complicated technical issues. And they're the kinds of things that will be worked out, I think, in the in the final stages of negotiation." To translate - more expensive drugs for the NHS, GM crops, Chlorinated chicken, Why as a nation are we prepared to allow American crap food to even be considered being allowed into this country? “The NHS is not for sale” no, but it’s about to get a lot more expensive. I’m not arguing about Brexit here. This is just wrong. We seem to be selling ourselves for a few pieces of silver. It’s our children that will suffer here. Yes tariffs on whiskey to the USA will drop. Have you seen Diageo and Chivas profits? They are huge and aren’t suffering due to tariffs. A deal at any cost? From one bloc telling us what to do to another bloc telling us what to do? Britain is always going to be subservient to some economic force. What sovereignty do we have? We have the illusion of sovereignty in the minds of the deluded. If you read Yuval Noah Harari hepis thought on countries and governments are just structures created in our heads between humans to help us rationalise and keep order. Countries don’t exist in themselves only in our heads. Try telling that to the guy in customs when travelling im sure they will understand.
He makes a valid point, we give power to institutions because we believe in them. If everyone rejected the institution then it fails, classic case, people rejecting the rules for Covid, it has failed on the basis that some people have rejected the rules which many abide by and now we have rising cases again.
But getting back to the point we are patently swapping one trade regime for another, which is more horseshit piled on top of the Brexit tree.
We are going to be the UK of A soon.A bit dramatic dont you think im sure all you remainers were rejoicing in the factthat there wouldnt be a trade deal with the usa when biden won ,you are a fickle bunch."That’s frankly bollocks firstly, it’s a well known fact that Brexit was apparently about sovereignty, but those supporters were blinded by the fact that freedom comes with strings. We make deals, we have to align to foreign rules, we’ve traded one master for another, and if you cannot see that then your so far in the closet you can see Narnia. | |||
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"The American senior negotiator asked about demands to adapt UK food standards on beef and chicken, as well as reforms to the way the NHS pays for US medicines, Mr Lighthizer said: "These negotiations are ongoing. "You know, clearly, the US needs to get additional access to the agricultural market in the UK - that's an important part of it, each side has to get something out of it. These are complicated technical issues. And they're the kinds of things that will be worked out, I think, in the in the final stages of negotiation." To translate - more expensive drugs for the NHS, GM crops, Chlorinated chicken, Why as a nation are we prepared to allow American crap food to even be considered being allowed into this country? “The NHS is not for sale” no, but it’s about to get a lot more expensive. I’m not arguing about Brexit here. This is just wrong. We seem to be selling ourselves for a few pieces of silver. It’s our children that will suffer here. Yes tariffs on whiskey to the USA will drop. Have you seen Diageo and Chivas profits? They are huge and aren’t suffering due to tariffs. A deal at any cost? From one bloc telling us what to do to another bloc telling us what to do? Britain is always going to be subservient to some economic force. What sovereignty do we have? We have the illusion of sovereignty in the minds of the deluded. If you read Yuval Noah Harari hepis thought on countries and governments are just structures created in our heads between humans to help us rationalise and keep order. Countries don’t exist in themselves only in our heads. Try telling that to the guy in customs when travelling im sure they will understand. "Just read it and you will at least think about it . It’s about the human race and how we create illusions to help us understand and feel safer. In the middle of the desert south of Libya there is a border! There is no such thing but because it’s drawn in a map we believe it exists . It’s like government . It’s a concept. We all agree Boris is prime minister but in the actual reality he’s just another human acting differently. We create the role in our heads . Stand next to him and see if he’s the same as you or not! If you poke him in the eye he hurts just like you . The role of PM is a concept we have created in our heads and written down to give us stability. He’s just another human. I can’t explain it as well as the writer but it’s fascinating . | |||
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"Another reason to strengthen drug laws "Read it and if you need help with the long words I’m sure we will all help. I was sceptical as not a dreamer but fuck it makes you realise we are being bullshitted by our leaders all the time . That includes all parties. It also makes you realise how insignificant a as and full of bollocks we actually are. Vote as much as you like it doesn’t matter long term. | |||
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"Another reason to strengthen drug laws
Read it and if you need help with the long words I’m sure we will all help.
I was sceptical as not a dreamer but fuck it makes you realise we are being bullshitted by our leaders all the time . That includes all parties.
It also makes you realise how insignificant a as and full of bollocks we actually are.
Vote as much as you like it doesn’t matter long term. "I might need help with the big words, at school I was crap at spelling but good at jografy. I've studied the Tao for years, you should try it, it might help with your negativity | |||
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"Another reason to strengthen drug laws
Read it and if you need help with the long words I’m sure we will all help.
I was sceptical as not a dreamer but fuck it makes you realise we are being bullshitted by our leaders all the time . That includes all parties.
It also makes you realise how insignificant a as and full of bollocks we actually are.
Vote as much as you like it doesn’t matter long term.
I might need help with the big words, at school I was crap at spelling but good at jografy. I've studied the Tao for years, you should try it, it might help with your negativity "I studied meditation during my Shotokan training over 10 years so I’m well chilled thanks . I’m not negative with this at all. It’s actually very liberating and puts stuff in perspective. If you don’t fancy reading his stuff just listen to Jeremy vine’s programme where he was a guest. It’s not a Brexit thing it’s a human thing and it makes you realise how fucking mad we all are! | |||
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"Another reason to strengthen drug laws
Read it and if you need help with the long words I’m sure we will all help.
I was sceptical as not a dreamer but fuck it makes you realise we are being bullshitted by our leaders all the time . That includes all parties.
It also makes you realise how insignificant a as and full of bollocks we actually are.
Vote as much as you like it doesn’t matter long term.
I might need help with the big words, at school I was crap at spelling but good at jografy. I've studied the Tao for years, you should try it, it might help with your negativity
I studied meditation during my Shotokan training over 10 years so I’m well chilled thanks .
I’m not negative with this at all. It’s actually very liberating and puts stuff in perspective.
If you don’t fancy reading his stuff just listen to Jeremy vine’s programme where he was a guest.
It’s not a Brexit thing it’s a human thing and it makes you realise how fucking mad we all are! "Well if you realise that all things change then why try so hard to hold on to the EU | |||
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"Another reason to strengthen drug laws
Read it and if you need help with the long words I’m sure we will all help.
I was sceptical as not a dreamer but fuck it makes you realise we are being bullshitted by our leaders all the time . That includes all parties.
It also makes you realise how insignificant a as and full of bollocks we actually are.
Vote as much as you like it doesn’t matter long term.
I might need help with the big words, at school I was crap at spelling but good at jografy. I've studied the Tao for years, you should try it, it might help with your negativity
I studied meditation during my Shotokan training over 10 years so I’m well chilled thanks .
I’m not negative with this at all. It’s actually very liberating and puts stuff in perspective.
If you don’t fancy reading his stuff just listen to Jeremy vine’s programme where he was a guest.
It’s not a Brexit thing it’s a human thing and it makes you realise how fucking mad we all are!
Well if you realise that all things change then why try so hard to hold on to the EU "are the EU not trying so hard to hold onto the U.K. do you not remember there the door will always be open to a U.K. return speech ? | |||
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"Another reason to strengthen drug laws
Read it and if you need help with the long words I’m sure we will all help.
I was sceptical as not a dreamer but fuck it makes you realise we are being bullshitted by our leaders all the time . That includes all parties.
It also makes you realise how insignificant a as and full of bollocks we actually are.
Vote as much as you like it doesn’t matter long term.
I might need help with the big words, at school I was crap at spelling but good at jografy. I've studied the Tao for years, you should try it, it might help with your negativity
I studied meditation during my Shotokan training over 10 years so I’m well chilled thanks .
I’m not negative with this at all. It’s actually very liberating and puts stuff in perspective.
If you don’t fancy reading his stuff just listen to Jeremy vine’s programme where he was a guest.
It’s not a Brexit thing it’s a human thing and it makes you realise how fucking mad we all are!
Well if you realise that all things change then why try so hard to hold on to the EU are the EU not trying so hard to hold onto the U.K. do you not remember there the door will always be open to a U.K. return speech ?"True. They should just accept it's over | |||
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"Another reason to strengthen drug laws
Read it and if you need help with the long words I’m sure we will all help.
I was sceptical as not a dreamer but fuck it makes you realise we are being bullshitted by our leaders all the time . That includes all parties.
It also makes you realise how insignificant a as and full of bollocks we actually are.
Vote as much as you like it doesn’t matter long term.
I might need help with the big words, at school I was crap at spelling but good at jografy. I've studied the Tao for years, you should try it, it might help with your negativity
I studied meditation during my Shotokan training over 10 years so I’m well chilled thanks .
I’m not negative with this at all. It’s actually very liberating and puts stuff in perspective.
If you don’t fancy reading his stuff just listen to Jeremy vine’s programme where he was a guest.
It’s not a Brexit thing it’s a human thing and it makes you realise how fucking mad we all are!
Well if you realise that all things change then why try so hard to hold on to the EU "Because today right now I see the damage and the job losses and see no benefit for anyone except very rich U.K. residents. I know people on here believe I’m bullshitting but we have moved jobs and made redundancies . That’s the reality. We daily ask HMRC and DEFRA for info and they don’t know. If Boris has a plan this would all be in place . He was interested in power not Brexit. Brexit was a means to power. He didn’t expect to win so had no real understanding of the consequences. We are where we are but unless he gets some sort of deal we are going to be in a slow terminal decline. We are not lithe enough or have a smart enough government to lead us forward. I’ve voted Tory most of my life but this lot are totally shallow corrupt and incompetent. We have been sold a bullshit promise of a better future solely lead by tax interests. Dealing with other countries daily I can see we are fucking nuts if we thing we are in charge of anything. We are and always will be part of others systems and plans whether you like it or not. Eastern Europe will give the EU the boost it needs with their young population to stay ahead of Asia. The U.K. is getting left behind. | |||
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"Another reason to strengthen drug laws
Read it and if you need help with the long words I’m sure we will all help.
I was sceptical as not a dreamer but fuck it makes you realise we are being bullshitted by our leaders all the time . That includes all parties.
It also makes you realise how insignificant a as and full of bollocks we actually are.
Vote as much as you like it doesn’t matter long term.
I might need help with the big words, at school I was crap at spelling but good at jografy. I've studied the Tao for years, you should try it, it might help with your negativity
I studied meditation during my Shotokan training over 10 years so I’m well chilled thanks .
I’m not negative with this at all. It’s actually very liberating and puts stuff in perspective.
If you don’t fancy reading his stuff just listen to Jeremy vine’s programme where he was a guest.
It’s not a Brexit thing it’s a human thing and it makes you realise how fucking mad we all are!
Well if you realise that all things change then why try so hard to hold on to the EU
Because today right now I see the damage and the job losses and see no benefit for anyone except very rich U.K. residents.
I know people on here believe I’m bullshitting but we have moved jobs and made redundancies . That’s the reality.
We daily ask HMRC and DEFRA for info and they don’t know.
If Boris has a plan this would all be in place .
He was interested in power not Brexit.
Brexit was a means to power.
He didn’t expect to win so had no real understanding of the consequences.
We are where we are but unless he gets some sort of deal we are going to be in a slow terminal decline.
We are not lithe enough or have a smart enough government to lead us forward.
I’ve voted Tory most of my life but this lot are totally shallow corrupt and incompetent.
We have been sold a bullshit promise of a better future solely lead by tax interests.
Dealing with other countries daily I can see we are fucking nuts if we thing we are in charge of anything. We are and always will be part of others systems and plans whether you like it or not.
Eastern Europe will give the EU the boost it needs with their young population to stay ahead of Asia.
The U.K. is getting left behind.
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"Another reason to strengthen drug laws
Read it and if you need help with the long words I’m sure we will all help.
I was sceptical as not a dreamer but fuck it makes you realise we are being bullshitted by our leaders all the time . That includes all parties.
It also makes you realise how insignificant a as and full of bollocks we actually are.
Vote as much as you like it doesn’t matter long term.
I might need help with the big words, at school I was crap at spelling but good at jografy. I've studied the Tao for years, you should try it, it might help with your negativity
I studied meditation during my Shotokan training over 10 years so I’m well chilled thanks .
I’m not negative with this at all. It’s actually very liberating and puts stuff in perspective.
If you don’t fancy reading his stuff just listen to Jeremy vine’s programme where he was a guest.
It’s not a Brexit thing it’s a human thing and it makes you realise how fucking mad we all are!
Well if you realise that all things change then why try so hard to hold on to the EU
Because today right now I see the damage and the job losses and see no benefit for anyone except very rich U.K. residents.
I know people on here believe I’m bullshitting but we have moved jobs and made redundancies . That’s the reality.
We daily ask HMRC and DEFRA for info and they don’t know.
If Boris has a plan this would all be in place .
He was interested in power not Brexit.
Brexit was a means to power.
He didn’t expect to win so had no real understanding of the consequences.
We are where we are but unless he gets some sort of deal we are going to be in a slow terminal decline.
We are not lithe enough or have a smart enough government to lead us forward.
I’ve voted Tory most of my life but this lot are totally shallow corrupt and incompetent.
We have been sold a bullshit promise of a better future solely lead by tax interests.
Dealing with other countries daily I can see we are fucking nuts if we thing we are in charge of anything. We are and always will be part of others systems and plans whether you like it or not.
Eastern Europe will give the EU the boost it needs with their young population to stay ahead of Asia.
The U.K. is getting left behind.
what are those jobs amd redumdancies bud ?"My own staff so don’t even think about being a smart arse . | |||
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"Funnily enough I deal with Europe and the US mainly every day and we are in manufacturing. Over the last 2 years we've increased our workforce by over a third, 200 to 300 and had to double our warehousing capacity. Now you can believe that or not, I don't really care" Net growth with us too. Opened new facilities in Romania, Sweden, Italy and soon Belgium. Just sadly not in the U.K. as our EU clients are demanding EU supply. Miami, Mobile Alabama , Philadelphia and Nova Scotia Canada starting to lose margin due to increasing shipping costs. They will never earn the margin we had with the EU . We’ve suspended Asian routes due to stupid increases in shipping costs . | |||
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"Funnily enough I deal with Europe and the US mainly every day and we are in manufacturing. Over the last 2 years we've increased our workforce by over a third, 200 to 300 and had to double our warehousing capacity. Now you can believe that or not, I don't really care" Good for you.... issue is it’s not going to be a trump lead uk-us trade deal... it’s going to be one lead by the incoming Biden administration, which is why you have seen johnson and his cohorts starting to distance themselves from trump and cosy up to Biden They haven’t yet decided who is going to oversee the department of commerce.... we may know in the next few days, the favourite for the job is Meg Whitman... who was a firm republican never trumper.... and the former head of HP, she would be fierce.... | |||
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"The American senior negotiator asked about demands to adapt UK food standards on beef and chicken, as well as reforms to the way the NHS pays for US medicines, Mr Lighthizer said: "These negotiations are ongoing. "You know, clearly, the US needs to get additional access to the agricultural market in the UK - that's an important part of it, each side has to get something out of it. These are complicated technical issues. And they're the kinds of things that will be worked out, I think, in the in the final stages of negotiation." To translate - more expensive drugs for the NHS, GM crops, Chlorinated chicken, Why as a nation are we prepared to allow American crap food to even be considered being allowed into this country? “The NHS is not for sale” no, but it’s about to get a lot more expensive. I’m not arguing about Brexit here. This is just wrong. We seem to be selling ourselves for a few pieces of silver. It’s our children that will suffer here. Yes tariffs on whiskey to the USA will drop. Have you seen Diageo and Chivas profits? They are huge and aren’t suffering due to tariffs. A deal at any cost? " At the end of the day you will still have choice how to spend your money when at the supermarket. As it is they throw the cheapest cuts of beef and battery farm chicken into fast food. When I go to to the shop I only buy free range chicken and eggs and i only buy Irish farm meats. Like wise how many people express concerns about chlorinated chicken etc when eating while on Holiday in the US? | |||
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"The American senior negotiator asked about demands to adapt UK food standards on beef and chicken, as well as reforms to the way the NHS pays for US medicines, Mr Lighthizer said: "These negotiations are ongoing. "You know, clearly, the US needs to get additional access to the agricultural market in the UK - that's an important part of it, each side has to get something out of it. These are complicated technical issues. And they're the kinds of things that will be worked out, I think, in the in the final stages of negotiation." To translate - more expensive drugs for the NHS, GM crops, Chlorinated chicken, Why as a nation are we prepared to allow American crap food to even be considered being allowed into this country? “The NHS is not for sale” no, but it’s about to get a lot more expensive. I’m not arguing about Brexit here. This is just wrong. We seem to be selling ourselves for a few pieces of silver. It’s our children that will suffer here. Yes tariffs on whiskey to the USA will drop. Have you seen Diageo and Chivas profits? They are huge and aren’t suffering due to tariffs. A deal at any cost? At the end of the day you will still have choice how to spend your money when at the supermarket. As it is they throw the cheapest cuts of beef and battery farm chicken into fast food. When I go to to the shop I only buy free range chicken and eggs and i only buy Irish farm meats. Like wise how many people express concerns about chlorinated chicken etc when eating while on Holiday in the US?" Do you show the same attention to ready meals like cottage pie because that’s where the cheap shit will come in? Non labelling of pre prepared food is the critical issue. Cheep beef goes into cheap meals. Two weeks at Disney isn’t really the biggest risk is it!! | |||
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"The American senior negotiator asked about demands to adapt UK food standards on beef and chicken, as well as reforms to the way the NHS pays for US medicines, Mr Lighthizer said: "These negotiations are ongoing. "You know, clearly, the US needs to get additional access to the agricultural market in the UK - that's an important part of it, each side has to get something out of it. These are complicated technical issues. And they're the kinds of things that will be worked out, I think, in the in the final stages of negotiation." To translate - more expensive drugs for the NHS, GM crops, Chlorinated chicken, Why as a nation are we prepared to allow American crap food to even be considered being allowed into this country? “The NHS is not for sale” no, but it’s about to get a lot more expensive. I’m not arguing about Brexit here. This is just wrong. We seem to be selling ourselves for a few pieces of silver. It’s our children that will suffer here. Yes tariffs on whiskey to the USA will drop. Have you seen Diageo and Chivas profits? They are huge and aren’t suffering due to tariffs. A deal at any cost? At the end of the day you will still have choice how to spend your money when at the supermarket. As it is they throw the cheapest cuts of beef and battery farm chicken into fast food. When I go to to the shop I only buy free range chicken and eggs and i only buy Irish farm meats. Like wise how many people express concerns about chlorinated chicken etc when eating while on Holiday in the US?" How will you know what you're spending your money on if there are no food labelling requirements? I've been to the states four times. And I haven't touched their meat and dairy. | |||
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"The American senior negotiator asked about demands to adapt UK food standards on beef and chicken, as well as reforms to the way the NHS pays for US medicines, Mr Lighthizer said: "These negotiations are ongoing. "You know, clearly, the US needs to get additional access to the agricultural market in the UK - that's an important part of it, each side has to get something out of it. These are complicated technical issues. And they're the kinds of things that will be worked out, I think, in the in the final stages of negotiation." To translate - more expensive drugs for the NHS, GM crops, Chlorinated chicken, Why as a nation are we prepared to allow American crap food to even be considered being allowed into this country? “The NHS is not for sale” no, but it’s about to get a lot more expensive. I’m not arguing about Brexit here. This is just wrong. We seem to be selling ourselves for a few pieces of silver. It’s our children that will suffer here. Yes tariffs on whiskey to the USA will drop. Have you seen Diageo and Chivas profits? They are huge and aren’t suffering due to tariffs. A deal at any cost? At the end of the day you will still have choice how to spend your money when at the supermarket. As it is they throw the cheapest cuts of beef and battery farm chicken into fast food. When I go to to the shop I only buy free range chicken and eggs and i only buy Irish farm meats. Like wise how many people express concerns about chlorinated chicken etc when eating while on Holiday in the US? How will you know what you're spending your money on if there are no food labelling requirements? I've been to the states four times. And I haven't touched their meat and dairy. " have you ever deal with tradeing standerds believe me they don’t let fuck all pass on a label that ain’t spot on mate so that’s a worry of yr head | |||
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"The American senior negotiator asked about demands to adapt UK food standards on beef and chicken, as well as reforms to the way the NHS pays for US medicines, Mr Lighthizer said: "These negotiations are ongoing. "You know, clearly, the US needs to get additional access to the agricultural market in the UK - that's an important part of it, each side has to get something out of it. These are complicated technical issues. And they're the kinds of things that will be worked out, I think, in the in the final stages of negotiation." To translate - more expensive drugs for the NHS, GM crops, Chlorinated chicken, Why as a nation are we prepared to allow American crap food to even be considered being allowed into this country? “The NHS is not for sale” no, but it’s about to get a lot more expensive. I’m not arguing about Brexit here. This is just wrong. We seem to be selling ourselves for a few pieces of silver. It’s our children that will suffer here. Yes tariffs on whiskey to the USA will drop. Have you seen Diageo and Chivas profits? They are huge and aren’t suffering due to tariffs. A deal at any cost? At the end of the day you will still have choice how to spend your money when at the supermarket. As it is they throw the cheapest cuts of beef and battery farm chicken into fast food. When I go to to the shop I only buy free range chicken and eggs and i only buy Irish farm meats. Like wise how many people express concerns about chlorinated chicken etc when eating while on Holiday in the US? How will you know what you're spending your money on if there are no food labelling requirements? I've been to the states four times. And I haven't touched their meat and dairy. have you ever deal with tradeing standerds believe me they don’t let fuck all pass on a label that ain’t spot on mate so that’s a worry of yr head " Part of the US requirement on a trade deal is to do away with origin labelling . You will have no idea what you’re eating . That’s the bloody point. | |||
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"The American senior negotiator asked about demands to adapt UK food standards on beef and chicken, as well as reforms to the way the NHS pays for US medicines, Mr Lighthizer said: "These negotiations are ongoing. "You know, clearly, the US needs to get additional access to the agricultural market in the UK - that's an important part of it, each side has to get something out of it. These are complicated technical issues. And they're the kinds of things that will be worked out, I think, in the in the final stages of negotiation." To translate - more expensive drugs for the NHS, GM crops, Chlorinated chicken, Why as a nation are we prepared to allow American crap food to even be considered being allowed into this country? “The NHS is not for sale” no, but it’s about to get a lot more expensive. I’m not arguing about Brexit here. This is just wrong. We seem to be selling ourselves for a few pieces of silver. It’s our children that will suffer here. Yes tariffs on whiskey to the USA will drop. Have you seen Diageo and Chivas profits? They are huge and aren’t suffering due to tariffs. A deal at any cost? At the end of the day you will still have choice how to spend your money when at the supermarket. As it is they throw the cheapest cuts of beef and battery farm chicken into fast food. When I go to to the shop I only buy free range chicken and eggs and i only buy Irish farm meats. Like wise how many people express concerns about chlorinated chicken etc when eating while on Holiday in the US? How will you know what you're spending your money on if there are no food labelling requirements? I've been to the states four times. And I haven't touched their meat and dairy. have you ever deal with tradeing standerds believe me they don’t let fuck all pass on a label that ain’t spot on mate so that’s a worry of yr head Part of the US requirement on a trade deal is to do away with origin labelling . You will have no idea what you’re eating . That’s the bloody point. " Blimey we've got US trade negotiators in the forums | |||
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"The American senior negotiator asked about demands to adapt UK food standards on beef and chicken, as well as reforms to the way the NHS pays for US medicines, Mr Lighthizer said: "These negotiations are ongoing. "You know, clearly, the US needs to get additional access to the agricultural market in the UK - that's an important part of it, each side has to get something out of it. These are complicated technical issues. And they're the kinds of things that will be worked out, I think, in the in the final stages of negotiation." To translate - more expensive drugs for the NHS, GM crops, Chlorinated chicken, Why as a nation are we prepared to allow American crap food to even be considered being allowed into this country? “The NHS is not for sale” no, but it’s about to get a lot more expensive. I’m not arguing about Brexit here. This is just wrong. We seem to be selling ourselves for a few pieces of silver. It’s our children that will suffer here. Yes tariffs on whiskey to the USA will drop. Have you seen Diageo and Chivas profits? They are huge and aren’t suffering due to tariffs. A deal at any cost? At the end of the day you will still have choice how to spend your money when at the supermarket. As it is they throw the cheapest cuts of beef and battery farm chicken into fast food. When I go to to the shop I only buy free range chicken and eggs and i only buy Irish farm meats. Like wise how many people express concerns about chlorinated chicken etc when eating while on Holiday in the US? How will you know what you're spending your money on if there are no food labelling requirements? I've been to the states four times. And I haven't touched their meat and dairy. have you ever deal with tradeing standerds believe me they don’t let fuck all pass on a label that ain’t spot on mate so that’s a worry of yr head " As mentioned it's part of the negotiations to remove these requirements. Besides, why do you think US corporations pumped so much cash into the leave campaigns, out of the goodness of their hearts? | |||
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"The American senior negotiator asked about demands to adapt UK food standards on beef and chicken, as well as reforms to the way the NHS pays for US medicines, Mr Lighthizer said: "These negotiations are ongoing. "You know, clearly, the US needs to get additional access to the agricultural market in the UK - that's an important part of it, each side has to get something out of it. These are complicated technical issues. And they're the kinds of things that will be worked out, I think, in the in the final stages of negotiation." To translate - more expensive drugs for the NHS, GM crops, Chlorinated chicken, Why as a nation are we prepared to allow American crap food to even be considered being allowed into this country? “The NHS is not for sale” no, but it’s about to get a lot more expensive. I’m not arguing about Brexit here. This is just wrong. We seem to be selling ourselves for a few pieces of silver. It’s our children that will suffer here. Yes tariffs on whiskey to the USA will drop. Have you seen Diageo and Chivas profits? They are huge and aren’t suffering due to tariffs. A deal at any cost? At the end of the day you will still have choice how to spend your money when at the supermarket. As it is they throw the cheapest cuts of beef and battery farm chicken into fast food. When I go to to the shop I only buy free range chicken and eggs and i only buy Irish farm meats. Like wise how many people express concerns about chlorinated chicken etc when eating while on Holiday in the US? How will you know what you're spending your money on if there are no food labelling requirements? I've been to the states four times. And I haven't touched their meat and dairy. have you ever deal with tradeing standerds believe me they don’t let fuck all pass on a label that ain’t spot on mate so that’s a worry of yr head Part of the US requirement on a trade deal is to do away with origin labelling . You will have no idea what you’re eating . That’s the bloody point. " aw so now you are saying you know for a fact we are looseing our trading standards then so what part of these negotiations are you playing a part in then ? | |||
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"The American senior negotiator asked about demands to adapt UK food standards on beef and chicken, as well as reforms to the way the NHS pays for US medicines, Mr Lighthizer said: "These negotiations are ongoing. "You know, clearly, the US needs to get additional access to the agricultural market in the UK - that's an important part of it, each side has to get something out of it. These are complicated technical issues. And they're the kinds of things that will be worked out, I think, in the in the final stages of negotiation." To translate - more expensive drugs for the NHS, GM crops, Chlorinated chicken, Why as a nation are we prepared to allow American crap food to even be considered being allowed into this country? “The NHS is not for sale” no, but it’s about to get a lot more expensive. I’m not arguing about Brexit here. This is just wrong. We seem to be selling ourselves for a few pieces of silver. It’s our children that will suffer here. Yes tariffs on whiskey to the USA will drop. Have you seen Diageo and Chivas profits? They are huge and aren’t suffering due to tariffs. A deal at any cost? At the end of the day you will still have choice how to spend your money when at the supermarket. As it is they throw the cheapest cuts of beef and battery farm chicken into fast food. When I go to to the shop I only buy free range chicken and eggs and i only buy Irish farm meats. Like wise how many people express concerns about chlorinated chicken etc when eating while on Holiday in the US? How will you know what you're spending your money on if there are no food labelling requirements? I've been to the states four times. And I haven't touched their meat and dairy. have you ever deal with tradeing standerds believe me they don’t let fuck all pass on a label that ain’t spot on mate so that’s a worry of yr head Part of the US requirement on a trade deal is to do away with origin labelling . You will have no idea what you’re eating . That’s the bloody point. aw so now you are saying you know for a fact we are looseing our trading standards then so what part of these negotiations are you playing a part in then ? " Look towards the food importers association. It has been a long standing aim of the big American food groups to do away with origin labels on food with specific reference to ingredients such as meats for mincing. Part of the American trade teams negotiating stance specifically references the requirement to remove origin labelling. EU regulations impose labelling and traceability of foods. As I’m not part of the American negotiating team I can’t tell you any of their closed room comments and to write your comment is childish. Of course I don’t know for a fact what is said in the discussions. I also for a fact don’t know what being shot feels like but I’m not going to give someone a gun to find out. The argument is we shouldn’t accept the discussion of lowering standards. It should not be up for negotiation. What I can tell you is I have good knowledge of how crap American food is with family food interests in the USA . So even with all the origin labelling in the world we shouldn’t allow their shit food on our dinner tables. American food is constantly in a race to the bottom both in price and additives. | |||
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"The American senior negotiator asked about demands to adapt UK food standards on beef and chicken, as well as reforms to the way the NHS pays for US medicines, Mr Lighthizer said: "These negotiations are ongoing. "You know, clearly, the US needs to get additional access to the agricultural market in the UK - that's an important part of it, each side has to get something out of it. These are complicated technical issues. And they're the kinds of things that will be worked out, I think, in the in the final stages of negotiation." To translate - more expensive drugs for the NHS, GM crops, Chlorinated chicken, Why as a nation are we prepared to allow American crap food to even be considered being allowed into this country? “The NHS is not for sale” no, but it’s about to get a lot more expensive. I’m not arguing about Brexit here. This is just wrong. We seem to be selling ourselves for a few pieces of silver. It’s our children that will suffer here. Yes tariffs on whiskey to the USA will drop. Have you seen Diageo and Chivas profits? They are huge and aren’t suffering due to tariffs. A deal at any cost? At the end of the day you will still have choice how to spend your money when at the supermarket. As it is they throw the cheapest cuts of beef and battery farm chicken into fast food. When I go to to the shop I only buy free range chicken and eggs and i only buy Irish farm meats. Like wise how many people express concerns about chlorinated chicken etc when eating while on Holiday in the US? How will you know what you're spending your money on if there are no food labelling requirements? I've been to the states four times. And I haven't touched their meat and dairy. have you ever deal with tradeing standerds believe me they don’t let fuck all pass on a label that ain’t spot on mate so that’s a worry of yr head Part of the US requirement on a trade deal is to do away with origin labelling . You will have no idea what you’re eating . That’s the bloody point. aw so now you are saying you know for a fact we are looseing our trading standards then so what part of these negotiations are you playing a part in then ? " Do people honestly trust the government to do what's in our best interest? Why would they suddenly decide to choose now to change tac. And why did these US corporations pump so much cash into Brexit, if they didn't think they would get a trade deal that would work for them! This was one of the main reasons for Brexit, what makes people so confident that the government will suddenly renege on lowering all our standards for the US now. | |||
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"The only good thing about the trade deal with america now is that biden support the irish peace agreement cos of his irish roots, he said "Irish border must remain open no matter the outcome of brexit negotiations between the uk and the eu" I like the latest twist there. No just because of his irish roots shag but because it is the right thing to do Keeping to international agreements and sticking to your own word is very important in world politics. That totally fucked up bojo the clowns plans to threaten chaos and mayhem until he got his own way Boris and trumps brand of "politics" is dead " We will see what will happen, but it still gives some hope for northern ireland, which is good as well | |||
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