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What are the positive benefits to the UK of a no-deal Brexit? - Part 3

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By *ild_oats OP   Man
over a year ago

the land of saints & sinners

After the two previous threads I have found one positive without an apparent downside.

We can eat wonky bananas.

Quick pull up the drawbridge raise the Union Jack and laud this amazing victory over satanic hordes of the EU.....

God bless King Harry and St. George.....

Oooops..... hang on a sec wrong century....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Apart from the fact the you completely ignored any answers you didn't like, here's another - the UK has already vaccinated thousands of people against Covid 19 and is rolling out more vaccinations and vaccination centres every day. Meanwhile the EMA, the EU medicines agency will not even be deciding if the vaccine is safe to use until at least the 29th of December. How many lives of people living in the EU will this possibly cost?

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By *ild_oats OP   Man
over a year ago

the land of saints & sinners


"Apart from the fact the you completely ignored any answers you didn't like, here's another - the UK has already vaccinated thousands of people against Covid 19 and is rolling out more vaccinations and vaccination centres every day. Meanwhile the EMA, the EU medicines agency will not even be deciding if the vaccine is safe to use until at least the 29th of December. How many lives of people living in the EU will this possibly cost? "

Each of your points had a compelling counter narrative rendering a nett zero gain.

To address you vaccine point. Ministers used EU legislation which allows hasty vaccine approval it roll it out nationally.

The irony of this is not lost on me that the UK has taken advantage of this.

The fact that other countries in the bloc have taken a more cautious approach. That a country’s internal decision not down to the EU.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Apart from the fact the you completely ignored any answers you didn't like, here's another - the UK has already vaccinated thousands of people against Covid 19 and is rolling out more vaccinations and vaccination centres every day. Meanwhile the EMA, the EU medicines agency will not even be deciding if the vaccine is safe to use until at least the 29th of December. How many lives of people living in the EU will this possibly cost? "

A lot of people wouldnt agree with you.

I think I may, miraculously ,agree with you but only time will tell.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from the fact the you completely ignored any answers you didn't like, here's another - the UK has already vaccinated thousands of people against Covid 19 and is rolling out more vaccinations and vaccination centres every day. Meanwhile the EMA, the EU medicines agency will not even be deciding if the vaccine is safe to use until at least the 29th of December. How many lives of people living in the EU will this possibly cost?

Each of your points had a compelling counter narrative rendering a nett zero gain.

To address you vaccine point. Ministers used EU legislation which allows hasty vaccine approval it roll it out nationally.

The irony of this is not lost on me that the UK has taken advantage of this.

The fact that other countries in the bloc have taken a more cautious approach. That a country’s internal decision not down to the EU.

"

Ministers did not need to use EU legislation as we are not in the EU.

Yes other countries could have used emergency legislation but a commission official said last week - for member states it is important that the vaccine approval goes through the EU agency since the trust of its citizens is at stake.

What the fuck that means I don't know, other than putting politics before people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from the fact the you completely ignored any answers you didn't like, here's another - the UK has already vaccinated thousands of people against Covid 19 and is rolling out more vaccinations and vaccination centres every day. Meanwhile the EMA, the EU medicines agency will not even be deciding if the vaccine is safe to use until at least the 29th of December. How many lives of people living in the EU will this possibly cost?

A lot of people wouldnt agree with you.

I think I may, miraculously ,agree with you but only time will tell.

"

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Apart from the fact the you completely ignored any answers you didn't like, here's another - the UK has already vaccinated thousands of people against Covid 19 and is rolling out more vaccinations and vaccination centres every day. Meanwhile the EMA, the EU medicines agency will not even be deciding if the vaccine is safe to use until at least the 29th of December. How many lives of people living in the EU will this possibly cost?

Each of your points had a compelling counter narrative rendering a nett zero gain.

To address you vaccine point. Ministers used EU legislation which allows hasty vaccine approval it roll it out nationally.

The irony of this is not lost on me that the UK has taken advantage of this.

The fact that other countries in the bloc have taken a more cautious approach. That a country’s internal decision not down to the EU.

Ministers did not need to use EU legislation as we are not in the EU.

Yes other countries could have used emergency legislation but a commission official said last week - for member states it is important that the vaccine approval goes through the EU agency since the trust of its citizens is at stake.

What the fuck that means I don't know, other than putting politics before people "

It means dont trust your own country only trust what the EU says,just a bit more subtle brainwashing.

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By *ild_oats OP   Man
over a year ago

the land of saints & sinners


"Apart from the fact the you completely ignored any answers you didn't like, here's another - the UK has already vaccinated thousands of people against Covid 19 and is rolling out more vaccinations and vaccination centres every day. Meanwhile the EMA, the EU medicines agency will not even be deciding if the vaccine is safe to use until at least the 29th of December. How many lives of people living in the EU will this possibly cost?

Each of your points had a compelling counter narrative rendering a nett zero gain.

To address you vaccine point. Ministers used EU legislation which allows hasty vaccine approval it roll it out nationally.

The irony of this is not lost on me that the UK has taken advantage of this.

The fact that other countries in the bloc have taken a more cautious approach. That a country’s internal decision not down to the EU.

Ministers did not need to use EU legislation as we are not in the EU.

Yes other countries could have used emergency legislation but a commission official said last week - for member states it is important that the vaccine approval goes through the EU agency since the trust of its citizens is at stake.

What the fuck that means I don't know, other than putting politics before people "

The fact remains that EU legislation was used as it currently remains on the statute books at present. Ministers used it.

Other member countries are entitled to use it whether they choose to use it or wait for EU wide approval is an internal mater for each individual EU country.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"After the two previous threads I have found one positive without an apparent downside.

We can eat wonky bananas.

Quick pull up the drawbridge raise the Union Jack and laud this amazing victory over satanic hordes of the EU.....

God bless King Harry and St. George.....

Oooops..... hang on a sec wrong century.... "

I have an advantage: We learned something.

The far right care deeply about the well being of fish.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The far left want a no deal Brexit and must care about fish too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The far left want a no deal Brexit and must care about fish too "

Isn't no deal a deal according to you?

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By *ssexbloke72Man
over a year ago

Poplar


"Apart from the fact the you completely ignored any answers you didn't like, here's another - the UK has already vaccinated thousands of people against Covid 19 and is rolling out more vaccinations and vaccination centres every day. Meanwhile the EMA, the EU medicines agency will not even be deciding if the vaccine is safe to use until at least the 29th of December. How many lives of people living in the EU will this possibly cost?

Each of your points had a compelling counter narrative rendering a nett zero gain.

To address you vaccine point. Ministers used EU legislation which allows hasty vaccine approval it roll it out nationally.

The irony of this is not lost on me that the UK has taken advantage of this.

The fact that other countries in the bloc have taken a more cautious approach. That a country’s internal decision not down to the EU.

Ministers did not need to use EU legislation as we are not in the EU.

Yes other countries could have used emergency legislation but a commission official said last week - for member states it is important that the vaccine approval goes through the EU agency since the trust of its citizens is at stake.

What the fuck that means I don't know, other than putting politics before people

The fact remains that EU legislation was used as it currently remains on the statute books at present. Ministers used it.

Other member countries are entitled to use it whether they choose to use it or wait for EU wide approval is an internal mater for each individual EU country."

I saw a German minister interviewed last week. He was asked why as Germany had approved the vaccine why were they not using it in Germany.

His answer was yes it is approved but we want to roll it out once all EU states had approved it so it goes out together.

Fantastic bureaucracy, expect the vaccine in 2030 in the EU.!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from the fact the you completely ignored any answers you didn't like, here's another - the UK has already vaccinated thousands of people against Covid 19 and is rolling out more vaccinations and vaccination centres every day. Meanwhile the EMA, the EU medicines agency will not even be deciding if the vaccine is safe to use until at least the 29th of December. How many lives of people living in the EU will this possibly cost?

Each of your points had a compelling counter narrative rendering a nett zero gain.

To address you vaccine point. Ministers used EU legislation which allows hasty vaccine approval it roll it out nationally.

The irony of this is not lost on me that the UK has taken advantage of this.

The fact that other countries in the bloc have taken a more cautious approach. That a country’s internal decision not down to the EU.

Ministers did not need to use EU legislation as we are not in the EU.

Yes other countries could have used emergency legislation but a commission official said last week - for member states it is important that the vaccine approval goes through the EU agency since the trust of its citizens is at stake.

What the fuck that means I don't know, other than putting politics before people

The fact remains that EU legislation was used as it currently remains on the statute books at present. Ministers used it.

Other member countries are entitled to use it whether they choose to use it or wait for EU wide approval is an internal mater for each individual EU country.

I saw a German minister interviewed last week. He was asked why as Germany had approved the vaccine why were they not using it in Germany.

His answer was yes it is approved but we want to roll it out once all EU states had approved it so it goes out together.

Fantastic bureaucracy, expect the vaccine in 2030 in the EU.!"

At least they'll know people with allergies shouldn't take it!

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

You have got to wonder where this irrational dislike comes from?

It is truly bizarre.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You have got to wonder where this irrational dislike comes from?

It is truly bizarre.

"

Dislike of the UK?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You have got to wonder where this irrational dislike comes from?

It is truly bizarre.

Dislike of the UK? "

Have you accepted you are totally wrong about the Japan trade deal yet?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"You have got to wonder where this irrational dislike comes from?

It is truly bizarre.

Dislike of the UK? "

Of the eu

As (little clue)the thread is about the eu

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You have got to wonder where this irrational dislike comes from?

It is truly bizarre.

Dislike of the UK?

Of the eu

As (little clue)the thread is about the eu"

Silly me, I'm sure I read UK in the thread title

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You have got to wonder where this irrational dislike comes from?

It is truly bizarre.

Dislike of the UK?

Of the eu

As (little clue)the thread is about the eu

Silly me, I'm sure I read UK in the thread title "

Have you accepted you are totally wrong about the Japan trade deal yet?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"You have got to wonder where this irrational dislike comes from?

It is truly bizarre.

Dislike of the UK?

Of the eu

As (little clue)the thread is about the eu

Silly me, I'm sure I read UK in the thread title "

The word Brexit is also in the title

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By *ssexbloke72Man
over a year ago

Poplar


"You have got to wonder where this irrational dislike comes from?

It is truly bizarre.

Dislike of the UK?

Of the eu

As (little clue)the thread is about the eu

Silly me, I'm sure I read UK in the thread title

The word Brexit is also in the title "

Brexit stands for Br(itains)exit.

Still no mention of EU in the title of this thread.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"You have got to wonder where this irrational dislike comes from?

It is truly bizarre.

Dislike of the UK?

Of the eu

As (little clue)the thread is about the eu

Silly me, I'm sure I read UK in the thread title

The word Brexit is also in the title

Brexit stands for Br(itains)exit.

Still no mention of EU in the title of this thread."

Without being rude.do

you have an actual point?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from the fact the you completely ignored any answers you didn't like, here's another - the UK has already vaccinated thousands of people against Covid 19 and is rolling out more vaccinations and vaccination centres every day. Meanwhile the EMA, the EU medicines agency will not even be deciding if the vaccine is safe to use until at least the 29th of December. How many lives of people living in the EU will this possibly cost?

Each of your points had a compelling counter narrative rendering a nett zero gain.

To address you vaccine point. Ministers used EU legislation which allows hasty vaccine approval it roll it out nationally.

The irony of this is not lost on me that the UK has taken advantage of this.

The fact that other countries in the bloc have taken a more cautious approach. That a country’s internal decision not down to the EU.

Ministers did not need to use EU legislation as we are not in the EU.

Yes other countries could have used emergency legislation but a commission official said last week - for member states it is important that the vaccine approval goes through the EU agency since the trust of its citizens is at stake.

What the fuck that means I don't know, other than putting politics before people

The fact remains that EU legislation was used as it currently remains on the statute books at present. Ministers used it.

Other member countries are entitled to use it whether they choose to use it or wait for EU wide approval is an internal mater for each individual EU country.

I saw a German minister interviewed last week. He was asked why as Germany had approved the vaccine why were they not using it in Germany.

His answer was yes it is approved but we want to roll it out once all EU states had approved it so it goes out together.

Fantastic bureaucracy, expect the vaccine in 2030 in the EU.!

At least they'll know people with allergies shouldn't take it!"

Brilliant.

So you think the UK have got it wrong do you and we should wait until the EMA say it's OK take it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from the fact the you completely ignored any answers you didn't like, here's another - the UK has already vaccinated thousands of people against Covid 19 and is rolling out more vaccinations and vaccination centres every day. Meanwhile the EMA, the EU medicines agency will not even be deciding if the vaccine is safe to use until at least the 29th of December. How many lives of people living in the EU will this possibly cost?

Each of your points had a compelling counter narrative rendering a nett zero gain.

To address you vaccine point. Ministers used EU legislation which allows hasty vaccine approval it roll it out nationally.

The irony of this is not lost on me that the UK has taken advantage of this.

The fact that other countries in the bloc have taken a more cautious approach. That a country’s internal decision not down to the EU.

Ministers did not need to use EU legislation as we are not in the EU.

Yes other countries could have used emergency legislation but a commission official said last week - for member states it is important that the vaccine approval goes through the EU agency since the trust of its citizens is at stake.

What the fuck that means I don't know, other than putting politics before people

The fact remains that EU legislation was used as it currently remains on the statute books at present. Ministers used it.

Other member countries are entitled to use it whether they choose to use it or wait for EU wide approval is an internal mater for each individual EU country.

I saw a German minister interviewed last week. He was asked why as Germany had approved the vaccine why were they not using it in Germany.

His answer was yes it is approved but we want to roll it out once all EU states had approved it so it goes out together.

Fantastic bureaucracy, expect the vaccine in 2030 in the EU.!

At least they'll know people with allergies shouldn't take it!

Brilliant.

So you think the UK have got it wrong do you and we should wait until the EMA say it's OK take it? "

I'm just saying rushing is not always a good idea, look at the Japan trade deal for evidence of that!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from the fact the you completely ignored any answers you didn't like, here's another - the UK has already vaccinated thousands of people against Covid 19 and is rolling out more vaccinations and vaccination centres every day. Meanwhile the EMA, the EU medicines agency will not even be deciding if the vaccine is safe to use until at least the 29th of December. How many lives of people living in the EU will this possibly cost?

Each of your points had a compelling counter narrative rendering a nett zero gain.

To address you vaccine point. Ministers used EU legislation which allows hasty vaccine approval it roll it out nationally.

The irony of this is not lost on me that the UK has taken advantage of this.

The fact that other countries in the bloc have taken a more cautious approach. That a country’s internal decision not down to the EU.

Ministers did not need to use EU legislation as we are not in the EU.

Yes other countries could have used emergency legislation but a commission official said last week - for member states it is important that the vaccine approval goes through the EU agency since the trust of its citizens is at stake.

What the fuck that means I don't know, other than putting politics before people

The fact remains that EU legislation was used as it currently remains on the statute books at present. Ministers used it.

Other member countries are entitled to use it whether they choose to use it or wait for EU wide approval is an internal mater for each individual EU country.

I saw a German minister interviewed last week. He was asked why as Germany had approved the vaccine why were they not using it in Germany.

His answer was yes it is approved but we want to roll it out once all EU states had approved it so it goes out together.

Fantastic bureaucracy, expect the vaccine in 2030 in the EU.!

At least they'll know people with allergies shouldn't take it!

Brilliant.

So you think the UK have got it wrong do you and we should wait until the EMA say it's OK take it?

I'm just saying rushing is not always a good idea, look at the Japan trade deal for evidence of that!"

Then maybe you should take time to think before rushing to post. That way you might not have to keep deleting things. And what makes you think the UK has rushed anything? Are you so bitter that you cannot even give UK scientists credit for something?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from the fact the you completely ignored any answers you didn't like, here's another - the UK has already vaccinated thousands of people against Covid 19 and is rolling out more vaccinations and vaccination centres every day. Meanwhile the EMA, the EU medicines agency will not even be deciding if the vaccine is safe to use until at least the 29th of December. How many lives of people living in the EU will this possibly cost?

Each of your points had a compelling counter narrative rendering a nett zero gain.

To address you vaccine point. Ministers used EU legislation which allows hasty vaccine approval it roll it out nationally.

The irony of this is not lost on me that the UK has taken advantage of this.

The fact that other countries in the bloc have taken a more cautious approach. That a country’s internal decision not down to the EU.

Ministers did not need to use EU legislation as we are not in the EU.

Yes other countries could have used emergency legislation but a commission official said last week - for member states it is important that the vaccine approval goes through the EU agency since the trust of its citizens is at stake.

What the fuck that means I don't know, other than putting politics before people

The fact remains that EU legislation was used as it currently remains on the statute books at present. Ministers used it.

Other member countries are entitled to use it whether they choose to use it or wait for EU wide approval is an internal mater for each individual EU country.

I saw a German minister interviewed last week. He was asked why as Germany had approved the vaccine why were they not using it in Germany.

His answer was yes it is approved but we want to roll it out once all EU states had approved it so it goes out together.

Fantastic bureaucracy, expect the vaccine in 2030 in the EU.!

At least they'll know people with allergies shouldn't take it!

Brilliant.

So you think the UK have got it wrong do you and we should wait until the EMA say it's OK take it?

I'm just saying rushing is not always a good idea, look at the Japan trade deal for evidence of that!"

What about the other 56 trade deals we have secured around the world ? Are they rushed too ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from the fact the you completely ignored any answers you didn't like, here's another - the UK has already vaccinated thousands of people against Covid 19 and is rolling out more vaccinations and vaccination centres every day. Meanwhile the EMA, the EU medicines agency will not even be deciding if the vaccine is safe to use until at least the 29th of December. How many lives of people living in the EU will this possibly cost?

Each of your points had a compelling counter narrative rendering a nett zero gain.

To address you vaccine point. Ministers used EU legislation which allows hasty vaccine approval it roll it out nationally.

The irony of this is not lost on me that the UK has taken advantage of this.

The fact that other countries in the bloc have taken a more cautious approach. That a country’s internal decision not down to the EU.

Ministers did not need to use EU legislation as we are not in the EU.

Yes other countries could have used emergency legislation but a commission official said last week - for member states it is important that the vaccine approval goes through the EU agency since the trust of its citizens is at stake.

What the fuck that means I don't know, other than putting politics before people

The fact remains that EU legislation was used as it currently remains on the statute books at present. Ministers used it.

Other member countries are entitled to use it whether they choose to use it or wait for EU wide approval is an internal mater for each individual EU country.

I saw a German minister interviewed last week. He was asked why as Germany had approved the vaccine why were they not using it in Germany.

His answer was yes it is approved but we want to roll it out once all EU states had approved it so it goes out together.

Fantastic bureaucracy, expect the vaccine in 2030 in the EU.!

At least they'll know people with allergies shouldn't take it!

Brilliant.

So you think the UK have got it wrong do you and we should wait until the EMA say it's OK take it?

I'm just saying rushing is not always a good idea, look at the Japan trade deal for evidence of that!

Then maybe you should take time to think before rushing to post. That way you might not have to keep deleting things. And what makes you think the UK has rushed anything? Are you so bitter that you cannot even give UK scientists credit for something? "

Hang on, are you trying to make out we created the vaccine? I'm sure we are talking about approval! I'm saying they maybe should have checked for allergic reactions in the trials.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from the fact the you completely ignored any answers you didn't like, here's another - the UK has already vaccinated thousands of people against Covid 19 and is rolling out more vaccinations and vaccination centres every day. Meanwhile the EMA, the EU medicines agency will not even be deciding if the vaccine is safe to use until at least the 29th of December. How many lives of people living in the EU will this possibly cost?

Each of your points had a compelling counter narrative rendering a nett zero gain.

To address you vaccine point. Ministers used EU legislation which allows hasty vaccine approval it roll it out nationally.

The irony of this is not lost on me that the UK has taken advantage of this.

The fact that other countries in the bloc have taken a more cautious approach. That a country’s internal decision not down to the EU.

Ministers did not need to use EU legislation as we are not in the EU.

Yes other countries could have used emergency legislation but a commission official said last week - for member states it is important that the vaccine approval goes through the EU agency since the trust of its citizens is at stake.

What the fuck that means I don't know, other than putting politics before people

The fact remains that EU legislation was used as it currently remains on the statute books at present. Ministers used it.

Other member countries are entitled to use it whether they choose to use it or wait for EU wide approval is an internal mater for each individual EU country.

I saw a German minister interviewed last week. He was asked why as Germany had approved the vaccine why were they not using it in Germany.

His answer was yes it is approved but we want to roll it out once all EU states had approved it so it goes out together.

Fantastic bureaucracy, expect the vaccine in 2030 in the EU.!

At least they'll know people with allergies shouldn't take it!

Brilliant.

So you think the UK have got it wrong do you and we should wait until the EMA say it's OK take it?

I'm just saying rushing is not always a good idea, look at the Japan trade deal for evidence of that!

Then maybe you should take time to think before rushing to post. That way you might not have to keep deleting things. And what makes you think the UK has rushed anything? Are you so bitter that you cannot even give UK scientists credit for something?

Hang on, are you trying to make out we created the vaccine? I'm sure we are talking about approval! I'm saying they maybe should have checked for allergic reactions in the trials."

Jeeeeez I never claimed we created the vaccine and they did check for allergic reactions! There were the same amount of 'allergic reactions' in the group who took a placebo, do you think they are thick ffs and that you know better? I've heard it all now. Yep, bitter and twisted

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By *ssexbloke72Man
over a year ago

Poplar


"Apart from the fact the you completely ignored any answers you didn't like, here's another - the UK has already vaccinated thousands of people against Covid 19 and is rolling out more vaccinations and vaccination centres every day. Meanwhile the EMA, the EU medicines agency will not even be deciding if the vaccine is safe to use until at least the 29th of December. How many lives of people living in the EU will this possibly cost?

Each of your points had a compelling counter narrative rendering a nett zero gain.

To address you vaccine point. Ministers used EU legislation which allows hasty vaccine approval it roll it out nationally.

The irony of this is not lost on me that the UK has taken advantage of this.

The fact that other countries in the bloc have taken a more cautious approach. That a country’s internal decision not down to the EU.

Ministers did not need to use EU legislation as we are not in the EU.

Yes other countries could have used emergency legislation but a commission official said last week - for member states it is important that the vaccine approval goes through the EU agency since the trust of its citizens is at stake.

What the fuck that means I don't know, other than putting politics before people

The fact remains that EU legislation was used as it currently remains on the statute books at present. Ministers used it.

Other member countries are entitled to use it whether they choose to use it or wait for EU wide approval is an internal mater for each individual EU country.

I saw a German minister interviewed last week. He was asked why as Germany had approved the vaccine why were they not using it in Germany.

His answer was yes it is approved but we want to roll it out once all EU states had approved it so it goes out together.

Fantastic bureaucracy, expect the vaccine in 2030 in the EU.!

At least they'll know people with allergies shouldn't take it!

Brilliant.

So you think the UK have got it wrong do you and we should wait until the EMA say it's OK take it?

I'm just saying rushing is not always a good idea, look at the Japan trade deal for evidence of that!

Then maybe you should take time to think before rushing to post. That way you might not have to keep deleting things. And what makes you think the UK has rushed anything? Are you so bitter that you cannot even give UK scientists credit for something?

Hang on, are you trying to make out we created the vaccine? I'm sure we are talking about approval! I'm saying they maybe should have checked for allergic reactions in the trials.

Jeeeeez I never claimed we created the vaccine and they did check for allergic reactions! There were the same amount of 'allergic reactions' in the group who took a placebo, do you think they are thick ffs and that you know better? I've heard it all now. Yep, bitter and twisted "

Considering the EMA was located in the UK up to 2019 I would think all the relevant scientists, staff, facilities and expertise are in place in the UK to carry out the required checks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from the fact the you completely ignored any answers you didn't like, here's another - the UK has already vaccinated thousands of people against Covid 19 and is rolling out more vaccinations and vaccination centres every day. Meanwhile the EMA, the EU medicines agency will not even be deciding if the vaccine is safe to use until at least the 29th of December. How many lives of people living in the EU will this possibly cost?

Each of your points had a compelling counter narrative rendering a nett zero gain.

To address you vaccine point. Ministers used EU legislation which allows hasty vaccine approval it roll it out nationally.

The irony of this is not lost on me that the UK has taken advantage of this.

The fact that other countries in the bloc have taken a more cautious approach. That a country’s internal decision not down to the EU.

Ministers did not need to use EU legislation as we are not in the EU.

Yes other countries could have used emergency legislation but a commission official said last week - for member states it is important that the vaccine approval goes through the EU agency since the trust of its citizens is at stake.

What the fuck that means I don't know, other than putting politics before people

The fact remains that EU legislation was used as it currently remains on the statute books at present. Ministers used it.

Other member countries are entitled to use it whether they choose to use it or wait for EU wide approval is an internal mater for each individual EU country.

I saw a German minister interviewed last week. He was asked why as Germany had approved the vaccine why were they not using it in Germany.

His answer was yes it is approved but we want to roll it out once all EU states had approved it so it goes out together.

Fantastic bureaucracy, expect the vaccine in 2030 in the EU.!

At least they'll know people with allergies shouldn't take it!

Brilliant.

So you think the UK have got it wrong do you and we should wait until the EMA say it's OK take it?

I'm just saying rushing is not always a good idea, look at the Japan trade deal for evidence of that!

Then maybe you should take time to think before rushing to post. That way you might not have to keep deleting things. And what makes you think the UK has rushed anything? Are you so bitter that you cannot even give UK scientists credit for something?

Hang on, are you trying to make out we created the vaccine? I'm sure we are talking about approval! I'm saying they maybe should have checked for allergic reactions in the trials.

Jeeeeez I never claimed we created the vaccine and they did check for allergic reactions! There were the same amount of 'allergic reactions' in the group who took a placebo, do you think they are thick ffs and that you know better? I've heard it all now. Yep, bitter and twisted

Considering the EMA was located in the UK up to 2019 I would think all the relevant scientists, staff, facilities and expertise are in place in the UK to carry out the required checks."

The fact you are trying to use it as a Brexit benefit is just wrong though. Just like Mogg was when he tried to claim it was by Dr June Raine.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Apart from the fact the you completely ignored any answers you didn't like, here's another - the UK has already vaccinated thousands of people against Covid 19 and is rolling out more vaccinations and vaccination centres every day. Meanwhile the EMA, the EU medicines agency will not even be deciding if the vaccine is safe to use until at least the 29th of December. How many lives of people living in the EU will this possibly cost?

Each of your points had a compelling counter narrative rendering a nett zero gain.

To address you vaccine point. Ministers used EU legislation which allows hasty vaccine approval it roll it out nationally.

The irony of this is not lost on me that the UK has taken advantage of this.

The fact that other countries in the bloc have taken a more cautious approach. That a country’s internal decision not down to the EU.

Ministers did not need to use EU legislation as we are not in the EU.

Yes other countries could have used emergency legislation but a commission official said last week - for member states it is important that the vaccine approval goes through the EU agency since the trust of its citizens is at stake.

What the fuck that means I don't know, other than putting politics before people

The fact remains that EU legislation was used as it currently remains on the statute books at present. Ministers used it.

Other member countries are entitled to use it whether they choose to use it or wait for EU wide approval is an internal mater for each individual EU country.

I saw a German minister interviewed last week. He was asked why as Germany had approved the vaccine why were they not using it in Germany.

His answer was yes it is approved but we want to roll it out once all EU states had approved it so it goes out together.

Fantastic bureaucracy, expect the vaccine in 2030 in the EU.!

At least they'll know people with allergies shouldn't take it!

Brilliant.

So you think the UK have got it wrong do you and we should wait until the EMA say it's OK take it?

I'm just saying rushing is not always a good idea, look at the Japan trade deal for evidence of that!

Then maybe you should take time to think before rushing to post. That way you might not have to keep deleting things. And what makes you think the UK has rushed anything? Are you so bitter that you cannot even give UK scientists credit for something?

Hang on, are you trying to make out we created the vaccine? I'm sure we are talking about approval! I'm saying they maybe should have checked for allergic reactions in the trials.

Jeeeeez I never claimed we created the vaccine and they did check for allergic reactions! There were the same amount of 'allergic reactions' in the group who took a placebo, do you think they are thick ffs and that you know better? I've heard it all now. Yep, bitter and twisted "

You said UK scientists?

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By *uietlykinkymeWoman
over a year ago

kinky land

I think it's time you two ignored each other please. Let's keep it off the forums.

Back to the op please.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think it's time you two ignored each other please. Let's keep it off the forums.

Back to the op please."

Good point, I've just though Blue passports aren't actually a Brexit benefit as we could have had them in the EU anyway. Do we take that off the list?

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