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By *ionelhutz OP   Man
over a year ago

liverpool

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55275597

On a complete unlrelated note its founder has links To a particular political party.

Nick hancock has been asked to provide details of companies who were placed into a VIP bidding channel,but quite rightly has refused to answer

£10.5 billion so far has been awarded to companies without a tendering process.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Friend of a Tory peer..?

Global virus and UK with insufficient PPE to protect front line NHS staff..

Set up a company registered in the isle of Man, only £100..

Call it anything as it doesn't matter if the company has any previous track record of supplying PPE..

Use the magic phrase 'we are friends and associates of a Tory peer'..

Ker fucking ching..

£122 million..

Estimated profit, up to 20%..

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By *ionelhutz OP   Man
over a year ago

liverpool


"Friend of a Tory peer..?

Global virus and UK with insufficient PPE to protect front line NHS staff..

Set up a company registered in the isle of Man, only £100..

Call it anything as it doesn't matter if the company has any previous track record of supplying PPE..

Use the magic phrase 'we are friends and associates of a Tory peer'..

Ker fucking ching..

£122 million..

Estimated profit, up to 20%..

"

Quite weird really

As Tories are normally up in arms about money pissed away.

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By *ary_ArgyllMan
over a year ago

Argyll

Unless its pissed into their mates' offshore bank accounts.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

No mate i dont care what party it is if there is corruption it out and jail them.

Just dont condemn people until there is proof.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No mate i dont care what party it is if there is corruption it out and jail them.

Just dont condemn people until there is proof. "

Robert Jenrick housing deal, should he have resigned?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No mate i dont care what party it is if there is corruption it out and jail them.

Just dont condemn people until there is proof.

Robert Jenrick housing deal, should he have resigned?"

Or been sacked?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"No mate i dont care what party it is if there is corruption it out and jail them.

Just dont condemn people until there is proof.

Robert Jenrick housing deal, should he have resigned?"
No idea i know nothing about it.I repeat if someone is found guilty of corruption they should be jailed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No mate i dont care what party it is if there is corruption it out and jail them.

Just dont condemn people until there is proof.

Robert Jenrick housing deal, should he have resigned?No idea i know nothing about it.I repeat if someone is found guilty of corruption they should be jailed."

Jenrick carried on in his job, it was pretty high profile at the time.

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

£3 each for 45million million face masks which cost 3-5p each. A bargain.

Some of the congestion at the container ports is due to PPE which has failed testing so the traders have abandoned and some is the fact that the traders aren’t set up as proper businesses so have no facilities to handle the containers.

If there’s no cronyism why is the list a secret?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No mate i dont care what party it is if there is corruption it out and jail them.

Just dont condemn people until there is proof.

Robert Jenrick housing deal, should he have resigned?No idea i know nothing about it.I repeat if someone is found guilty of corruption they should be jailed."

"Mr Jenrick approved the Westferry Printworks scheme in east London (said to be worth £1bn) in January 2020. The minister overruled objections by Tower Hamlets Council over the lack of affordable housing and overall size of the 1,500-home development by Richard Desmond’s company Northern & Shell.

Following a public inquiry August 2019 – launched after the developer argued the process was taking too long – a government-appointed planning inspector recommended the development be turned down, agreeing with the council.

Only two weeks after Mr Jenrick stepped in to give the scheme the go-ahead, Electoral Commission records show that Mr Desmond personally gave £12,000 to the Conservatives."

From the Independent, there was also tape of him discussing it.

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By *ionelhutz OP   Man
over a year ago

liverpool


"No mate i dont care what party it is if there is corruption it out and jail them.

Just dont condemn people until there is proof. "

A contract is awarded to a company who have no history of ppe.

The normal due diligence process is bypassed.

The company has a proven link to the gmnt.

The ppe is not fit for purpose and millions of pounds have been wasted

And you still want proof nothing dodgy has gone on?

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

There is a government policy not to give contracts to small local firms it is way above Hancock he is a pawn in the game

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"No mate i dont care what party it is if there is corruption it out and jail them.

Just dont condemn people until there is proof.

Robert Jenrick housing deal, should he have resigned?No idea i know nothing about it.I repeat if someone is found guilty of corruption they should be jailed.

"Mr Jenrick approved the Westferry Printworks scheme in east London (said to be worth £1bn) in January 2020. The minister overruled objections by Tower Hamlets Council over the lack of affordable housing and overall size of the 1,500-home development by Richard Desmond’s company Northern & Shell.

Following a public inquiry August 2019 – launched after the developer argued the process was taking too long – a government-appointed planning inspector recommended the development be turned down, agreeing with the council.

Only two weeks after Mr Jenrick stepped in to give the scheme the go-ahead, Electoral Commission records show that Mr Desmond personally gave £12,000 to the Conservatives."

From the Independent, there was also tape of him discussing it."

And Jenrick rushed it through to save the developer £50 million..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"No mate i dont care what party it is if there is corruption it out and jail them.

Just dont condemn people until there is proof. "

Is corruption the only thing that such issues are worthy of condemnation?

Cronyism, looking after donors and associates who set up companies rather than use those with proven track records in the actual field of provision?

Gross incompetence?

Massive wastage of public money?

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By *ionelhutz OP   Man
over a year ago

liverpool

The fact that such blatant corruption isnt against the law,tells it's own story.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

Unless the person putting the contracts out, or at least signing them off, is getting a personal gain, then you cannot say its corruption.

It can be labelled as financial incompetence or whatever term suits, but I wouldn't be expecting any prosecutions over this.

I'm sure that the due inquiries by the NAO, could well be damning but we'll wait for those to appear.

What bugs me more, is that if this PPE hasn't met standards, then we shouldn't be paying for it. And in normal business operations, no-one pays vast sums like that upfront. Payments are normally staggered and paid on satisfactory progress of the contract.

If the correct standards weren't issued, then that is a Civil Service matter. As is accepting faulty goods, and not having the recourse to reclaim monies paid.

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By *ionelhutz OP   Man
over a year ago

liverpool


"Unless the person putting the contracts out, or at least signing them off, is getting a personal gain, then you cannot say its corruption.

It can be labelled as financial incompetence or whatever term suits, but I wouldn't be expecting any prosecutions over this.

I'm sure that the due inquiries by the NAO, could well be damning but we'll wait for those to appear.

What bugs me more, is that if this PPE hasn't met standards, then we shouldn't be paying for it. And in normal business operations, no-one pays vast sums like that upfront. Payments are normally staggered and paid on satisfactory progress of the contract.

If the correct standards weren't issued, then that is a Civil Service matter. As is accepting faulty goods, and not having the recourse to reclaim monies paid. "

Have a look at the speech zarah sultana gave,to a select committee I think.

I remember reading somewhere there was some expedition if something was faulty, though I stand to be corrected on that

If this isnt corruption..I dont know what is.

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