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"Does trading on WTO terms with the EU constitute a deal with them? Silverhorn is trying to argue it does! I'm pretty sure it doesn't as it obviously a baseline set by a 3rd party, but would like to hear others opinions So Yes or No? " No, here is a simple question , are the WTO terms better or worse than the original deal we had with the EU? | |||
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"Does trading on WTO terms with the EU constitute a deal with them? Silverhorn is trying to argue it does! I'm pretty sure it doesn't as it obviously a baseline set by a 3rd party, but would like to hear others opinions So Yes or No? " I'm flattered   | |||
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"Does trading on WTO terms with the EU constitute a deal with them? Silverhorn is trying to argue it does! I'm pretty sure it doesn't as it obviously a baseline set by a 3rd party, but would like to hear others opinions So Yes or No? No, here is a simple question , are the WTO terms better or worse than the original deal we had with the EU? " Obviously not, but can we keep to topic on this one! | |||
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"Does trading on WTO terms with the EU constitute a deal with them? Silverhorn is trying to argue it does! I'm pretty sure it doesn't as it obviously a baseline set by a 3rd party, but would like to hear others opinions So Yes or No? I'm flattered "Trolls getting fed today | |||
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"Does trading on WTO terms with the EU constitute a deal with them? Silverhorn is trying to argue it does! I'm pretty sure it doesn't as it obviously a baseline set by a 3rd party, but would like to hear others opinions So Yes or No? I'm flattered "you've pulled mate a whole thread dedicated to you.It must be love.  | |||
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"Does trading on WTO terms with the EU constitute a deal with them? Silverhorn is trying to argue it does! I'm pretty sure it doesn't as it obviously a baseline set by a 3rd party, but would like to hear others opinions So Yes or No? I'm flattered you've pulled mate a whole thread dedicated to you.It must be love. " | |||
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"Does trading on WTO terms with the EU constitute a deal with them? Silverhorn is trying to argue it does! I'm pretty sure it doesn't as it obviously a baseline set by a 3rd party, but would like to hear others opinions So Yes or No? I'm flattered you've pulled mate a whole thread dedicated to you.It must be love. "even you can't bring yourself to say yes I see. | |||
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"Does trading on WTO terms with the EU constitute a deal with them? Silverhorn is trying to argue it does! I'm pretty sure it doesn't as it obviously a baseline set by a 3rd party, but would like to hear others opinions So Yes or No? I'm flattered you've pulled mate a whole thread dedicated to you.It must be love.
even you can't bring yourself to say yes I see."well its a man crush thread isn't it? i will stay out of it andleave to your infatuation. | |||
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"Does trading on WTO terms with the EU constitute a deal with them? Silverhorn is trying to argue it does! I'm pretty sure it doesn't as it obviously a baseline set by a 3rd party, but would like to hear others opinions So Yes or No? I'm flattered you've pulled mate a whole thread dedicated to you.It must be love.
even you can't bring yourself to say yes I see.well its a man crush thread isn't it? i will stay out of it andleave to your infatuation. "Yes or No? | |||
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"Boris stated today that there is a certain clarity to trading on WTO rules with the EU. Who is looking forward to paying more for food and goods? " Dont you think that the buyers from major supermarkets are not sourcing food from S Africa etc who wont impose tariffs,im sure they would love to sell more to us but couldn't under eu protection rules. | |||
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"Boris stated today that there is a certain clarity to trading on WTO rules with the EU. Who is looking forward to paying more for food and goods? Dont you think that the buyers from major supermarkets are not sourcing food from S Africa etc who wont impose tariffs,im sure they would love to sell more to us but couldn't under eu protection rules. " I’m sure everything imported from Europe can easily be replaced from S. Africa... Let me just magically create a new production line or factory or farm.... | |||
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"Just to clarify? As a member of the EU the UK was in the customs union. Now, was this a specific deal or was it common rules for member states? If it is common rules that would mean the UK never actually had a specific trade deal with the EU but was following it's rules?" The whole point of the EU is that being a member means you are part of the customs union. You don't need a specific deal with the EU, because you are part of the EU, following the rules of all the EU, that all the countries within the EU have agreed together. As part of the EU, we helped set the rules that all the EU would have to work by. In fact on a whole range of issues we had a veto vote, meaning that a rule could not be made unless we agreed to it. So all the rules that we had to follow as part of the EU were the rules that WE wanted all the EU to have to follow. The other big bonus as a member of the EU was not just having tariff free trade with EU countries, but also we didn't need to negotiate our own individual deals with other countries. The trading weight of the entire EU is pooled together to make deals all over the world, getting better terms than any one country on its own ever could. We had the use of all those deals, and have walked out on all of them. And now, instead of having the advantage of the entire EU working for _us_, we have the disadvantage of the entire EU working against us. Instead of being on the inside, setting the rules that the small countries would have to follow if they wanted to sell us stuff, we are now on the outside, having to follow the rules that the big countries set if we want to sell them stuff... | |||
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"Just to clarify? As a member of the EU the UK was in the customs union. Now, was this a specific deal or was it common rules for member states? If it is common rules that would mean the UK never actually had a specific trade deal with the EU but was following it's rules? The whole point of the EU is that being a member means you are part of the customs union. You don't need a specific deal with the EU, because you are part of the EU, following the rules of all the EU, that all the countries within the EU have agreed together. As part of the EU, we helped set the rules that all the EU would have to work by. In fact on a whole range of issues we had a veto vote, meaning that a rule could not be made unless we agreed to it. So all the rules that we had to follow as part of the EU were the rules that WE wanted all the EU to have to follow. The other big bonus as a member of the EU was not just having tariff free trade with EU countries, but also we didn't need to negotiate our own individual deals with other countries. The trading weight of the entire EU is pooled together to make deals all over the world, getting better terms than any one country on its own ever could. We had the use of all those deals, and have walked out on all of them. And now, instead of having the advantage of the entire EU working for _us_, we have the disadvantage of the entire EU working against us. Instead of being on the inside, setting the rules that the small countries would have to follow if they wanted to sell us stuff, we are now on the outside, having to follow the rules that the big countries set if we want to sell them stuff..." When you have the interests of 28 countries to satisfy 'trading weight' doesn't really come into it. Switzerland for example have better deals than the EU | |||
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"Just to clarify? As a member of the EU the UK was in the customs union. Now, was this a specific deal or was it common rules for member states? If it is common rules that would mean the UK never actually had a specific trade deal with the EU but was following it's rules? The whole point of the EU is that being a member means you are part of the customs union. You don't need a specific deal with the EU, because you are part of the EU, following the rules of all the EU, that all the countries within the EU have agreed together. As part of the EU, we helped set the rules that all the EU would have to work by. In fact on a whole range of issues we had a veto vote, meaning that a rule could not be made unless we agreed to it. So all the rules that we had to follow as part of the EU were the rules that WE wanted all the EU to have to follow. The other big bonus as a member of the EU was not just having tariff free trade with EU countries, but also we didn't need to negotiate our own individual deals with other countries. The trading weight of the entire EU is pooled together to make deals all over the world, getting better terms than any one country on its own ever could. We had the use of all those deals, and have walked out on all of them. And now, instead of having the advantage of the entire EU working for _us_, we have the disadvantage of the entire EU working against us. Instead of being on the inside, setting the rules that the small countries would have to follow if they wanted to sell us stuff, we are now on the outside, having to follow the rules that the big countries set if we want to sell them stuff... When you have the interests of 28 countries to satisfy 'trading weight' doesn't really come into it. Switzerland for example have better deals than the EU " Has the eu been.a failure? | |||
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"Just to clarify? As a member of the EU the UK was in the customs union. Now, was this a specific deal or was it common rules for member states? If it is common rules that would mean the UK never actually had a specific trade deal with the EU but was following it's rules? The whole point of the EU is that being a member means you are part of the customs union. You don't need a specific deal with the EU, because you are part of the EU, following the rules of all the EU, that all the countries within the EU have agreed together. As part of the EU, we helped set the rules that all the EU would have to work by. In fact on a whole range of issues we had a veto vote, meaning that a rule could not be made unless we agreed to it. So all the rules that we had to follow as part of the EU were the rules that WE wanted all the EU to have to follow. The other big bonus as a member of the EU was not just having tariff free trade with EU countries, but also we didn't need to negotiate our own individual deals with other countries. The trading weight of the entire EU is pooled together to make deals all over the world, getting better terms than any one country on its own ever could. We had the use of all those deals, and have walked out on all of them. And now, instead of having the advantage of the entire EU working for _us_, we have the disadvantage of the entire EU working against us. Instead of being on the inside, setting the rules that the small countries would have to follow if they wanted to sell us stuff, we are now on the outside, having to follow the rules that the big countries set if we want to sell them stuff... When you have the interests of 28 countries to satisfy 'trading weight' doesn't really come into it. Switzerland for example have better deals than the EU Has the eu been.a failure?" For some yes | |||
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"Just to clarify? As a member of the EU the UK was in the customs union. Now, was this a specific deal or was it common rules for member states? If it is common rules that would mean the UK never actually had a specific trade deal with the EU but was following it's rules? The whole point of the EU is that being a member means you are part of the customs union. You don't need a specific deal with the EU, because you are part of the EU, following the rules of all the EU, that all the countries within the EU have agreed together. As part of the EU, we helped set the rules that all the EU would have to work by. In fact on a whole range of issues we had a veto vote, meaning that a rule could not be made unless we agreed to it. So all the rules that we had to follow as part of the EU were the rules that WE wanted all the EU to have to follow. The other big bonus as a member of the EU was not just having tariff free trade with EU countries, but also we didn't need to negotiate our own individual deals with other countries. The trading weight of the entire EU is pooled together to make deals all over the world, getting better terms than any one country on its own ever could. We had the use of all those deals, and have walked out on all of them. And now, instead of having the advantage of the entire EU working for _us_, we have the disadvantage of the entire EU working against us. Instead of being on the inside, setting the rules that the small countries would have to follow if they wanted to sell us stuff, we are now on the outside, having to follow the rules that the big countries set if we want to sell them stuff... When you have the interests of 28 countries to satisfy 'trading weight' doesn't really come into it. Switzerland for example have better deals than the EU Has the eu been.a failure? For some yes" Do you still think No deal is a deal pal? And did Liz Truss sign a trade deal with Japan in October or was she not allowed to like you claimed? | |||
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"Just to clarify? As a member of the EU the UK was in the customs union. Now, was this a specific deal or was it common rules for member states? If it is common rules that would mean the UK never actually had a specific trade deal with the EU but was following it's rules? The whole point of the EU is that being a member means you are part of the customs union. You don't need a specific deal with the EU, because you are part of the EU, following the rules of all the EU, that all the countries within the EU have agreed together. As part of the EU, we helped set the rules that all the EU would have to work by. In fact on a whole range of issues we had a veto vote, meaning that a rule could not be made unless we agreed to it. So all the rules that we had to follow as part of the EU were the rules that WE wanted all the EU to have to follow. The other big bonus as a member of the EU was not just having tariff free trade with EU countries, but also we didn't need to negotiate our own individual deals with other countries. The trading weight of the entire EU is pooled together to make deals all over the world, getting better terms than any one country on its own ever could. We had the use of all those deals, and have walked out on all of them. And now, instead of having the advantage of the entire EU working for _us_, we have the disadvantage of the entire EU working against us. Instead of being on the inside, setting the rules that the small countries would have to follow if they wanted to sell us stuff, we are now on the outside, having to follow the rules that the big countries set if we want to sell them stuff... When you have the interests of 28 countries to satisfy 'trading weight' doesn't really come into it. Switzerland for example have better deals than the EU Has the eu been.a failure? For some yes" Who has saw the largest trading block and the worlds biggest 2and economy as a failure? | |||
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"Just to clarify? As a member of the EU the UK was in the customs union. Now, was this a specific deal or was it common rules for member states? If it is common rules that would mean the UK never actually had a specific trade deal with the EU but was following it's rules? The whole point of the EU is that being a member means you are part of the customs union. You don't need a specific deal with the EU, because you are part of the EU, following the rules of all the EU, that all the countries within the EU have agreed together. As part of the EU, we helped set the rules that all the EU would have to work by. In fact on a whole range of issues we had a veto vote, meaning that a rule could not be made unless we agreed to it. So all the rules that we had to follow as part of the EU were the rules that WE wanted all the EU to have to follow. The other big bonus as a member of the EU was not just having tariff free trade with EU countries, but also we didn't need to negotiate our own individual deals with other countries. The trading weight of the entire EU is pooled together to make deals all over the world, getting better terms than any one country on its own ever could. We had the use of all those deals, and have walked out on all of them. And now, instead of having the advantage of the entire EU working for _us_, we have the disadvantage of the entire EU working against us. Instead of being on the inside, setting the rules that the small countries would have to follow if they wanted to sell us stuff, we are now on the outside, having to follow the rules that the big countries set if we want to sell them stuff... When you have the interests of 28 countries to satisfy 'trading weight' doesn't really come into it. Switzerland for example have better deals than the EU Has the eu been.a failure? For some yes Who has saw the largest trading block and the worlds biggest 2and economy as a failure?" Plenty. Just because you are part of a large trading block doesn't mean its been successful for all, especially the poor. I know you won't listen to me so type that same question into Google and you will find some answers | |||
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"Just to clarify? As a member of the EU the UK was in the customs union. Now, was this a specific deal or was it common rules for member states? If it is common rules that would mean the UK never actually had a specific trade deal with the EU but was following it's rules? The whole point of the EU is that being a member means you are part of the customs union. You don't need a specific deal with the EU, because you are part of the EU, following the rules of all the EU, that all the countries within the EU have agreed together. As part of the EU, we helped set the rules that all the EU would have to work by. In fact on a whole range of issues we had a veto vote, meaning that a rule could not be made unless we agreed to it. So all the rules that we had to follow as part of the EU were the rules that WE wanted all the EU to have to follow. The other big bonus as a member of the EU was not just having tariff free trade with EU countries, but also we didn't need to negotiate our own individual deals with other countries. The trading weight of the entire EU is pooled together to make deals all over the world, getting better terms than any one country on its own ever could. We had the use of all those deals, and have walked out on all of them. And now, instead of having the advantage of the entire EU working for _us_, we have the disadvantage of the entire EU working against us. Instead of being on the inside, setting the rules that the small countries would have to follow if they wanted to sell us stuff, we are now on the outside, having to follow the rules that the big countries set if we want to sell them stuff... When you have the interests of 28 countries to satisfy 'trading weight' doesn't really come into it. Switzerland for example have better deals than the EU Has the eu been.a failure? For some yes Who has saw the largest trading block and the worlds biggest 2and economy as a failure? Plenty. Just because you are part of a large trading block doesn't mean its been successful for all, especially the poor. I know you won't listen to me so type that same question into Google and you will find some answers " Do you still see no deal as a deal pal? Did Liz Truss sign a trade deal with Japan? or was it not allowed like you said? | |||
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"Just to clarify? As a member of the EU the UK was in the customs union. Now, was this a specific deal or was it common rules for member states? If it is common rules that would mean the UK never actually had a specific trade deal with the EU but was following it's rules? The whole point of the EU is that being a member means you are part of the customs union. You don't need a specific deal with the EU, because you are part of the EU, following the rules of all the EU, that all the countries within the EU have agreed together. As part of the EU, we helped set the rules that all the EU would have to work by. In fact on a whole range of issues we had a veto vote, meaning that a rule could not be made unless we agreed to it. So all the rules that we had to follow as part of the EU were the rules that WE wanted all the EU to have to follow. The other big bonus as a member of the EU was not just having tariff free trade with EU countries, but also we didn't need to negotiate our own individual deals with other countries. The trading weight of the entire EU is pooled together to make deals all over the world, getting better terms than any one country on its own ever could. We had the use of all those deals, and have walked out on all of them. And now, instead of having the advantage of the entire EU working for _us_, we have the disadvantage of the entire EU working against us. Instead of being on the inside, setting the rules that the small countries would have to follow if they wanted to sell us stuff, we are now on the outside, having to follow the rules that the big countries set if we want to sell them stuff... When you have the interests of 28 countries to satisfy 'trading weight' doesn't really come into it. Switzerland for example have better deals than the EU Has the eu been.a failure? For some yes Who has saw the largest trading block and the worlds biggest 2and economy as a failure? Plenty. Just because you are part of a large trading block doesn't mean its been successful for all, especially the poor. I know you won't listen to me so type that same question into Google and you will find some answers Do you still see no deal as a deal pal? Did Liz Truss sign a trade deal with Japan? or was it not allowed like you said?" Yes. And the deal she signed was a rollover of the deal we had while an EU member, which is what I said. That's why it's weighted in Japan's favour. Any improvements from a UK point of view, of which there will be, cannot be made/implemented until the new year | |||
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"Just to clarify? As a member of the EU the UK was in the customs union. Now, was this a specific deal or was it common rules for member states? If it is common rules that would mean the UK never actually had a specific trade deal with the EU but was following it's rules? The whole point of the EU is that being a member means you are part of the customs union. You don't need a specific deal with the EU, because you are part of the EU, following the rules of all the EU, that all the countries within the EU have agreed together. As part of the EU, we helped set the rules that all the EU would have to work by. In fact on a whole range of issues we had a veto vote, meaning that a rule could not be made unless we agreed to it. So all the rules that we had to follow as part of the EU were the rules that WE wanted all the EU to have to follow. The other big bonus as a member of the EU was not just having tariff free trade with EU countries, but also we didn't need to negotiate our own individual deals with other countries. The trading weight of the entire EU is pooled together to make deals all over the world, getting better terms than any one country on its own ever could. We had the use of all those deals, and have walked out on all of them. And now, instead of having the advantage of the entire EU working for _us_, we have the disadvantage of the entire EU working against us. Instead of being on the inside, setting the rules that the small countries would have to follow if they wanted to sell us stuff, we are now on the outside, having to follow the rules that the big countries set if we want to sell them stuff... When you have the interests of 28 countries to satisfy 'trading weight' doesn't really come into it. Switzerland for example have better deals than the EU Has the eu been.a failure? For some yes Who has saw the largest trading block and the worlds biggest 2and economy as a failure? Plenty. Just because you are part of a large trading block doesn't mean its been successful for all, especially the poor. I know you won't listen to me so type that same question into Google and you will find some answers Do you still see no deal as a deal pal? Did Liz Truss sign a trade deal with Japan? or was it not allowed like you said? Yes. And the deal she signed was a rollover of the deal we had while an EU member, which is what I said. That's why it's weighted in Japan's favour. Any improvements from a UK point of view, of which there will be, cannot be made/implemented until the new year " You are totally wrong: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-japan-trade-deal-liz-truss-exports-b1619263.html | |||
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"Just to clarify? As a member of the EU the UK was in the customs union. Now, was this a specific deal or was it common rules for member states? If it is common rules that would mean the UK never actually had a specific trade deal with the EU but was following it's rules? The whole point of the EU is that being a member means you are part of the customs union. You don't need a specific deal with the EU, because you are part of the EU, following the rules of all the EU, that all the countries within the EU have agreed together. As part of the EU, we helped set the rules that all the EU would have to work by. In fact on a whole range of issues we had a veto vote, meaning that a rule could not be made unless we agreed to it. So all the rules that we had to follow as part of the EU were the rules that WE wanted all the EU to have to follow. The other big bonus as a member of the EU was not just having tariff free trade with EU countries, but also we didn't need to negotiate our own individual deals with other countries. The trading weight of the entire EU is pooled together to make deals all over the world, getting better terms than any one country on its own ever could. We had the use of all those deals, and have walked out on all of them. And now, instead of having the advantage of the entire EU working for _us_, we have the disadvantage of the entire EU working against us. Instead of being on the inside, setting the rules that the small countries would have to follow if they wanted to sell us stuff, we are now on the outside, having to follow the rules that the big countries set if we want to sell them stuff... When you have the interests of 28 countries to satisfy 'trading weight' doesn't really come into it. Switzerland for example have better deals than the EU Has the eu been.a failure? For some yes Who has saw the largest trading block and the worlds biggest 2and economy as a failure? Plenty. Just because you are part of a large trading block doesn't mean its been successful for all, especially the poor. I know you won't listen to me so type that same question into Google and you will find some answers Do you still see no deal as a deal pal? Did Liz Truss sign a trade deal with Japan? or was it not allowed like you said? Yes. And the deal she signed was a rollover of the deal we had while an EU member, which is what I said. That's why it's weighted in Japan's favour. Any improvements from a UK point of view, of which there will be, cannot be made/implemented until the new year You are totally wrong: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-japan-trade-deal-liz-truss-exports-b1619263.html" "UK and Japan sign free trade agreement English The UK has officially signed an economic partnership agreement with Japan, marking an historic moment, as the UK’s?first major?trade?deal as an independent trading nation and offering a glimpse of Global Britain’s potential.??" Taken from the government website...Are they making it up or are you totally wrong? | |||
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"Just to clarify? As a member of the EU the UK was in the customs union. Now, was this a specific deal or was it common rules for member states? If it is common rules that would mean the UK never actually had a specific trade deal with the EU but was following it's rules? The whole point of the EU is that being a member means you are part of the customs union. You don't need a specific deal with the EU, because you are part of the EU, following the rules of all the EU, that all the countries within the EU have agreed together. As part of the EU, we helped set the rules that all the EU would have to work by. In fact on a whole range of issues we had a veto vote, meaning that a rule could not be made unless we agreed to it. So all the rules that we had to follow as part of the EU were the rules that WE wanted all the EU to have to follow. The other big bonus as a member of the EU was not just having tariff free trade with EU countries, but also we didn't need to negotiate our own individual deals with other countries. The trading weight of the entire EU is pooled together to make deals all over the world, getting better terms than any one country on its own ever could. We had the use of all those deals, and have walked out on all of them. And now, instead of having the advantage of the entire EU working for _us_, we have the disadvantage of the entire EU working against us. Instead of being on the inside, setting the rules that the small countries would have to follow if they wanted to sell us stuff, we are now on the outside, having to follow the rules that the big countries set if we want to sell them stuff... When you have the interests of 28 countries to satisfy 'trading weight' doesn't really come into it. Switzerland for example have better deals than the EU Has the eu been.a failure? For some yes Who has saw the largest trading block and the worlds biggest 2and economy as a failure? Plenty. Just because you are part of a large trading block doesn't mean its been successful for all, especially the poor. I know you won't listen to me so type that same question into Google and you will find some answers Do you still see no deal as a deal pal? Did Liz Truss sign a trade deal with Japan? or was it not allowed like you said? Yes. And the deal she signed was a rollover of the deal we had while an EU member, which is what I said. That's why it's weighted in Japan's favour. Any improvements from a UK point of view, of which there will be, cannot be made/implemented until the new year You are totally wrong: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-japan-trade-deal-liz-truss-exports-b1619263.html "UK and Japan sign free trade agreement English The UK has officially signed an economic partnership agreement with Japan, marking an historic moment, as the UK’s?first major?trade?deal as an independent trading nation and offering a glimpse of Global Britain’s potential.??" Taken from the government website...Are they making it up or are you totally wrong?" https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-and-japan-sign-free-trade-agreement | |||
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