FabSwingers.com forum: The brexit end game.

By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

With the time almost up there seems to be a stalmate in the negotiations where it seems neither wants to reach an agreement or want brexit to happen, will it be a deal or no deal situation?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

There's a long way to go yet. Any deal needs to be ratified in both Parliaments.

And then each EU nation has to agree. And that might be trickier than people think.

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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

In my opinion I think that as britain are leaving the club which means that they should sacrifice more as you cant expect to get a better deal when leaving, so I think that it will come down to these 3 choices, a longer extension period to break the deadlock or britain agrees to sacrifice abit more or to not to leave which I think its been boris game all along

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By *rench letterCouple
over a year ago

Chorley,

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal."

The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. "

How would you describe the people in Wales Scotland and Ireland who voted for Brexit?

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it.

How would you describe the people in Wales Scotland and Ireland who voted for Brexit? "

They would probably call them little islanders

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

I cannot see there being a deal the attitude of the EU stinks we must make them pay in the long run.

i hope we can have a half deal for now and continue after covid but the nasty French will allways be a problem.

As far as I can tell we are asking for very little the EU are a load of shits.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it.

How would you describe the people in Wales Scotland and Ireland who voted for Brexit? "

Duped..

Respect they voted that way and the result, if it comes good then hands up and will say yeah got that one wrong but I think the implications for the ordinary working man and woman will not be positive..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

As with anything overpromised by Boris the devil will be in the detail, the commonality being the all sides want this out of the way so a deal should be done but at the right price politically which seems to be the main issue..

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

Wales heavily rely on eu subsidies..going to be interesting to see what happens post Brexit.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Wales heavily rely on eu subsidies..going to be interesting to see what happens post Brexit."

Ditto parts of the West country..

Given the recent town centre funding debacle from this government I just don't see this wave of altruism in investing in areas they have not been interested in before..

No votes for them unlike the shires..

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Wales heavily rely on eu subsidies..going to be interesting to see what happens post Brexit.

Ditto parts of the West country..

Given the recent town centre funding debacle from this government I just don't see this wave of altruism in investing in areas they have not been interested in before..

No votes for them unlike the shires.."

And they have to 'level up'the north

Still I'm sure with all that money we are saving there will be plenty to go round.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Frankly only the duped can believe that there is any such thing as EU money/subsidies

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Frankly only the duped can believe that there is any such thing as EU money/subsidies

True

We will all be much better off post Brexit

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

I can’t see how there would be a deal unless the U.K. gives up rights to complete because the EU still want control over what we as a nation would be able to do.

They want the so called level playing field to stop the U.K. growing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I can’t see how there would be a deal unless the U.K. gives up rights to complete because the EU still want control over what we as a nation would be able to do.

They want the so called level playing field to stop the U.K. growing "

The EU are protecting their 27 members interests , anyway, I keep hearing a no deal is a good outcome so we don’t need a deal

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"I can’t see how there would be a deal unless the U.K. gives up rights to complete because the EU still want control over what we as a nation would be able to do.

They want the so called level playing field to stop the U.K. growing "

Yep it makes absolute sense to damage your own close economic partner.

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

"Frankly only the duped can believe that there is any such thing as EU money/subsidies

In 2018 the U.K. paid the EU around 13 billion and the EU paid the U.K. 4 billion in so called subsidies

Don’t sound like a subsidy to me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Frankly only the duped can believe that there is any such thing as EU money/subsidies

In 2018 the U.K. paid the EU around 13 billion and the EU paid the U.K. 4 billion in so called subsidies

Don’t sound like a subsidy to me

How much has Brexit cost the UK?

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

"Frankly only the duped can believe that there is any such thing as EU money/subsidies

In 2018 the U.K. paid the EU around 13 billion and the EU paid the U.K. 4 billion in so called subsidies

Don’t sound like a subsidy to me

How much has Brexit cost the UK? "

It was always going to cost us more to get out no matter what we did because that’s the way it was set up slowly over time.

The only other option would have been to stay trapped in the protectionist block/cartel

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"Wales heavily rely on eu subsidies..going to be interesting to see what happens post Brexit.

Ditto parts of the West country..

Given the recent town centre funding debacle from this government I just don't see this wave of altruism in investing in areas they have not been interested in before..

No votes for them unlike the shires..

And they have to 'level up'the north

Still I'm sure with all that money we are saving there will be plenty to go round."
will soon see like iv said before it’s going to be a bidding war at the next GE for the northern votes of blowjob doesn’t keep his promise to invest in the north labour will be in not that I have muck faith in starmer helping out the north

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Frankly only the duped can believe that there is any such thing as EU money/subsidies

In 2018 the U.K. paid the EU around 13 billion and the EU paid the U.K. 4 billion in so called subsidies

Don’t sound like a subsidy to me

And how much did we save in being part of a trading block?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Frankly only the duped can believe that there is any such thing as EU money/subsidies

In 2018 the U.K. paid the EU around 13 billion and the EU paid the U.K. 4 billion in so called subsidies

Don’t sound like a subsidy to me

How much has Brexit cost the UK?

It was always going to cost us more to get out no matter what we did because that’s the way it was set up slowly over time.

The only other option would have been to stay trapped in the protectionist block/cartel "

How much has it cost?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. "
What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"I can’t see how there would be a deal unless the U.K. gives up rights to complete because the EU still want control over what we as a nation would be able to do.

They want the so called level playing field to stop the U.K. growing

Yep it makes absolute sense to damage your own close economic partner."
That works both ways we are the eu,s biggest market.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"I can’t see how there would be a deal unless the U.K. gives up rights to complete because the EU still want control over what we as a nation would be able to do.

They want the so called level playing field to stop the U.K. growing

Yep it makes absolute sense to damage your own close economic partner.That works both ways we are the eu,s biggest market."

Course it does.

Which makes one side damaging the other, nonsensical.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country?

If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has.

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True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has.

True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? "

What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has.

True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ?

What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc

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i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has.

True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? "

I dont know as I'm not privy to the meetings

But surely If we were not bothered about the benefits we would happily leave with no deal?

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By *ust some cock suckerMan
over a year ago

Preston

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has.

True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ?

What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc

i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible."

Personally I thought the UK was actually asking for a free trade agreement lol

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By *ust some cock suckerMan
over a year ago

Preston

"Frankly only the duped can believe that there is any such thing as EU money/subsidies

In 2018 the U.K. paid the EU around 13 billion and the EU paid the U.K. 4 billion in so called subsidies

Don’t sound like a subsidy to me

And how much did we save in being part of a trading block?"

We saved a hell of a lot more billions in free trade than it ever cost us in "membership fees"

but many will never acknowledge this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Frankly only the duped can believe that there is any such thing as EU money/subsidies

In 2018 the U.K. paid the EU around 13 billion and the EU paid the U.K. 4 billion in so called subsidies

Don’t sound like a subsidy to me

And how much did we save in being part of a trading block?

We saved a hell of a lot more billions in free trade than it ever cost us in "membership fees"

but many will never acknowledge this. "

So why doesn't the whole world 'free trade'?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has.

True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ?

I dont know as I'm not privy to the meetings

But surely If we were not bothered about the benefits we would happily leave with no deal?"
so you make a statement about entitlement to benifits and then you tell me you dont know what they are,bloody hell mate your arguments are getting worse.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has.

True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ?

What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc

i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible.

Personally I thought the UK was actually asking for a free trade agreement lol"
yes but can you tell me any other country that has a free trade agreement and has to accept them making their rules and access to their fishing rights.Just one country will do who,s govenment cant make its own rules.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has.

True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ?

What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc

i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible."

Do you not think there is the

tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has.

True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ?

What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc

Almost like they didn't swallow the pie in the sky rhetoric from garage and Boris etc, how very selfish if them..

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has.

True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ?

What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc

i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible.

Do you not think there is the

tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?"
Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal?

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

So why doesn't the whole world 'free trade'? "

That's the way the world is heading, if you paid any attention at all. The EU, NAFTA, ASPEAN, etc etc

We are the only country going backwards and making it deliberately harder to trade because we're so weak minded that to us global co-operation looks like subjugation.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has.

True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ?

What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc

i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible.

Do you not think there is the

tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? "

So you didnt answer my question

The bullying eu and plucky old blighty standing upto it

The kind of nonsense which leaves us where we are now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So why doesn't the whole world 'free trade'?

That's the way the world is heading, if you paid any attention at all. The EU, NAFTA, ASPEAN, etc etc

We are the only country going backwards and making it deliberately harder to trade because we're so weak minded that to us global co-operation looks like subjugation. "

I thought we were trying to get free trade with the EU? Isn't that what all the talks are about? Duh

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

Anyone fancy answering my question?

just one country will do.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

So why doesn't the whole world 'free trade'?

That's the way the world is heading, if you paid any attention at all. The EU, NAFTA, ASPEAN, etc etc

We are the only country going backwards and making it deliberately harder to trade because we're so weak minded that to us global co-operation looks like subjugation.

I thought we were trying to get free trade with the EU? Isn't that what all the talks are about? Duh"

Trying to possibly get back what we already had, on worse terms.

Duh indeed.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

Apparently we should be in a trading bloc but do what the fuck we want anyway as no one should tell us what to do.

And its the eu who are arrogant

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So why doesn't the whole world 'free trade'?

That's the way the world is heading, if you paid any attention at all. The EU, NAFTA, ASPEAN, etc etc

We are the only country going backwards and making it deliberately harder to trade because we're so weak minded that to us global co-operation looks like subjugation.

I thought we were trying to get free trade with the EU? Isn't that what all the talks are about? Duh

Trying to possibly get back what we already had, on worse terms.

Duh indeed. "

No, trying to get back what we had with the EU and better terms with the rest of the world, get it right

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

So why doesn't the whole world 'free trade'?

That's the way the world is heading, if you paid any attention at all. The EU, NAFTA, ASPEAN, etc etc

We are the only country going backwards and making it deliberately harder to trade because we're so weak minded that to us global co-operation looks like subjugation.

I thought we were trying to get free trade with the EU? Isn't that what all the talks are about? Duh

Trying to possibly get back what we already had, on worse terms.

Duh indeed.

No, trying to get back what we had with the EU and better terms with the rest of the world, get it right "

But you were just questioning why we even need free trade, and now you're championing how great Brexit is going to be for free trade?

Almost like you're just making up any old shit from moment to moment, isn't it. I can see why other people have stopped responding to you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has.

True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ?

What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc

i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible.

Do you not think there is the

I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has.

True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ?

What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc

Almost like they didn't swallow the pie in the sky rhetoric from garage and Boris etc, how very selfish if them.."

I know, if only there was someone who could have predicted this was going to happen, did the leave campaign actually make a single accurate prediction?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So why doesn't the whole world 'free trade'?

That's the way the world is heading, if you paid any attention at all. The EU, NAFTA, ASPEAN, etc etc

We are the only country going backwards and making it deliberately harder to trade because we're so weak minded that to us global co-operation looks like subjugation.

I thought we were trying to get free trade with the EU? Isn't that what all the talks are about? Duh

Trying to possibly get back what we already had, on worse terms.

Duh indeed.

No, trying to get back what we had with the EU and better terms with the rest of the world, get it right

But you were just questioning why we even need free trade, and now you're championing how great Brexit is going to be for free trade?

Almost like you're just making up any old shit from moment to moment, isn't it. I can see why other people have stopped responding to you. "

Read and maybe comprehend properly, I never questioned why we need free trade at all

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has.

True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ?

What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc

i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible.

Do you not think there is the

I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU?

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what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has.

True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ?

What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc

i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible.

Do you not think there is the

I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU?

what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question?"

It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has.

True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ?

What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc

i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible.

Do you not think there is the

I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU?

what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question?

It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan "
come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer.

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over a year ago

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has.

True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ?

What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc

i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible.

Do you not think there is the

I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU?

what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question?

It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer.

The answer is simple and obvious, the EU are protecting the interests of their members, giving the UK the same deal as Japan & Canada would not be fair on the EU nations. The funny thing about this is the fact that everyone with a brain knew this would happen, you can’t possible be surprised you knew what you were voting for

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has.

True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ?

What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc

i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible.

Do you not think there is the

I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU?

what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question?

"
so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue?

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over a year ago

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has.

True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ?

What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc

i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible.

Do you not think there is the

I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU?

what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question?

so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue?"

I have just given you the answer

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has.

True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ?

What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc

i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible.

Do you not think there is the

I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU?

what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question?

so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue?

I have just given you the answer "
Its between minus one and one.

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over a year ago

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has.

True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ?

What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc

i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible.

Do you not think there is the

I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU?

what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question?

so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue?

I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one."

I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has.

True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ?

What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc

i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible.

Do you not think there is the

I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU?

what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question?

so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue?

I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one.

I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal

"
Right so we are at least in agreement we should not let the eu have control over some of our rules is that correct?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has.

True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ?

What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc

i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible.

Do you not think there is the

I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU?

what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question?

so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue?

I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one.

I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal

Right so we are at least in agreement we should not let the eu have control over some of our rules is that correct?"

Where did I say that? , the EU are trying to protect their members, they are trying to get the best deal for them,

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has.

True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ?

What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc

i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible.

Do you not think there is the

I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU?

what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question?

so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue?

I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one.

I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal

Right so we are at least in agreement we should not let the eu have control over some of our rules is that correct?

Where did I say that? , the EU are trying to protect their members, they are trying to get the best deal for them, "
so you think they should have control over some of our rules then?

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over a year ago

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has.

True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ?

What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc

i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible.

Do you not think there is the

I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU?

what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question?

so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue?

I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one.

I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal

Right so we are at least in agreement we should not let the eu have control over some of our rules is that correct?

Where did I say that? , the EU are trying to protect their members, they are trying to get the best deal for them, so you think they should have control over some of our rules then?"

When it come to trading with the EU? Yes, it is in their best interests, you seem shocked that this is happening

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has.

True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ?

What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc

i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible.

Do you not think there is the

I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU?

what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question?

so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue?

I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one.

I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal

Right so we are at least in agreement we should not let the eu have control over some of our rules is that correct?

Where did I say that? , the EU are trying to protect their members, they are trying to get the best deal for them, so you think they should have control over some of our rules then?

When it come to trading with the EU? Yes, it is in their best interests, you seem shocked that this is happening

"
ok so your willing to sell out future generations rights for an eu trade deal fair enough im sure a lot of people would disagree but at least i know where you stand now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has.

True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ?

What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc

i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible.

Do you not think there is the

I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU?

what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question?

so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue?

I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one.

I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal

Right so we are at least in agreement we should not let the eu have control over some of our rules is that correct?

Where did I say that? , the EU are trying to protect their members, they are trying to get the best deal for them, so you think they should have control over some of our rules then?

When it come to trading with the EU? Yes, it is in their best interests, you seem shocked that this is happening

ok so your willing to sell out future generations rights for an eu trade deal fair enough im sure a lot of people would disagree but at least i know where you stand now."

Calm down, you seem a bit surprised this is happening? There won’t be a deal, apparently we don’t need one and a no deal is a good outcome ??

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal.

If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has.

True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ?

What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc

i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible.

Do you not think there is the

I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU?

what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question?

so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue?

I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one.

I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal

Right so we are at least in agreement we should not let the eu have control over some of our rules is that correct?

Where did I say that? , the EU are trying to protect their members, they are trying to get the best deal for them, so you think they should have control over some of our rules then?

When it come to trading with the EU? Yes, it is in their best interests, you seem shocked that this is happening

ok so your willing to sell out future generations rights for an eu trade deal fair enough im sure a lot of people would disagree but at least i know where you stand now.

Calm down, you seem a bit surprised this is happening? There won’t be a deal, apparently we don’t need one and a no deal is a good outcome ??"
Well the eu have moved the goalposts the withdrawal agreement said they would reckonise uk sovereignty which that certainly isnt.

anyway getting off track im trying to get to the bottom of your logic, so what is the eu superstate worried about that the uk can do that canada cant? as they dont want to have power over Canada,s government.