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"I have finally found one and my opinions on Brexit have completely changed. This may be old news but apparently Brexit will increase dogging in Kent , this is great new and should be celebrated. " | |||
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"I have finally found one and my opinions on Brexit have completely changed. This may be old news but apparently Brexit will increase dogging in Kent , this is great new and should be celebrated. "That’s a hell of a commute for you each night? | |||
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"I have finally found one and my opinions on Brexit have completely changed. This may be old news but apparently Brexit will increase dogging in Kent , this is great new and should be celebrated.
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"I have finally found one and my opinions on Brexit have completely changed. This may be old news but apparently Brexit will increase dogging in Kent , this is great new and should be celebrated. "I thought Kent was being transferred to France | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent." Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent." That ship sailed a few years ago, plans were made | |||
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"I have finally found one and my opinions on Brexit have completely changed. This may be old news but apparently Brexit will increase dogging in Kent , this is great new and should be celebrated. "had to read this again I thought you said Kent is dogging lol | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, " Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. " Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growing | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growing" I dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year." They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. " How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. https://amp.rte.ie/amp/1039355/ "There's a Brexit benefit right there! Just not for Britain! | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? " No, more competition lowers prices. | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? " Because I’m a customer of two of the ferry lines. They have made it attractive as it’s a good alternative to using the U.K. land bridge. They can sell cabins to the public and some drivers will like that and sell more food drinks as it’s a longer sailing which is more profitable against the fuel usage. . The trucks are year around anchors to secure the routes. The summer season will be very profitable as the tourists will pack in. | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices." What competition? | |||
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"One other massive benefit I forgot . The Irish hauliers don’t need to get involved in the permit scheme so they can send as many trucks as they like to Europe . Unlike U.K. hauliers who now can’t . Still winning " I thought that was the whole point of doing it and as i said great that the uk will have much less international traffic travelling through from both ways.Its a win win for everyone.  | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? " There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't | |||
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"One other massive benefit I forgot . The Irish hauliers don’t need to get involved in the permit scheme so they can send as many trucks as they like to Europe . Unlike U.K. hauliers who now can’t . Still winning I thought that was the whole point of doing it and as i said great that the uk will have much less international traffic travelling through from both ways.Its a win win for everyone. "You need to read up on the permit scheme and see how it is going to hinder international haulage to and from the U.K. The FTA and RHA are screaming at the government to sort it and issue more permits but they have only issued a limited amount so far. The issue is the continental governments only hand out limited amounts too. It really is bad news as transport into and out of the U.K. will get more expensive . | |||
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"One other massive benefit I forgot . The Irish hauliers don’t need to get involved in the permit scheme so they can send as many trucks as they like to Europe . Unlike U.K. hauliers who now can’t . Still winning I thought that was the whole point of doing it and as i said great that the uk will have much less international traffic travelling through from both ways.Its a win win for everyone.
You need to read up on the permit scheme and see how it is going to hinder international haulage to and from the U.K.
The FTA and RHA are screaming at the government to sort it and issue more permits but they have only issued a limited amount so far. The issue is the continental governments only hand out limited amounts too.
It really is bad news as transport into and out of the U.K. will get more expensive . "so the eu intend to hinder their own trade too? that doesnt sound like the eu some are proud of on here. | |||
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"One other massive benefit I forgot . The Irish hauliers don’t need to get involved in the permit scheme so they can send as many trucks as they like to Europe . Unlike U.K. hauliers who now can’t . Still winning I thought that was the whole point of doing it and as i said great that the uk will have much less international traffic travelling through from both ways.Its a win win for everyone.
You need to read up on the permit scheme and see how it is going to hinder international haulage to and from the U.K.
The FTA and RHA are screaming at the government to sort it and issue more permits but they have only issued a limited amount so far. The issue is the continental governments only hand out limited amounts too.
It really is bad news as transport into and out of the U.K. will get more expensive . so the eu intend to hinder their own trade too? that doesnt sound like the eu some are proud of on here."It’s hurting us more as we get a smaller share and the EU hauliers didn’t need one to go to any other country including the Irish 
Coming to the U.K. foreign hauliers can charge more now because we certainly won’t have enough trucks with permits .
Look it up, it’s an ancient fucked up system that’s back to haunt us .
It’s another shining win !
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"One other massive benefit I forgot . The Irish hauliers don’t need to get involved in the permit scheme so they can send as many trucks as they like to Europe . Unlike U.K. hauliers who now can’t . Still winning I thought that was the whole point of doing it and as i said great that the uk will have much less international traffic travelling through from both ways.Its a win win for everyone.
You need to read up on the permit scheme and see how it is going to hinder international haulage to and from the U.K.
The FTA and RHA are screaming at the government to sort it and issue more permits but they have only issued a limited amount so far. The issue is the continental governments only hand out limited amounts too.
It really is bad news as transport into and out of the U.K. will get more expensive . so the eu intend to hinder their own trade too? that doesnt sound like the eu some are proud of on here.
It’s hurting us more as we get a smaller share and the EU hauliers didn’t need one to go to any other country including the Irish
Coming to the U.K. foreign hauliers can charge more now because we certainly won’t have enough trucks with permits .
Look it up, it’s an ancient fucked up system that’s back to haunt us .
It’s another shining win !
"Funny enough i heard all this the other year about aviation and planes from the uk not being able to fly to eu countries i cannot for the life of me seeing them not accepting the ECMT permit and there being a shortage as most of these things are agreed outside of the trade deal.I know you like to look on the down side but lets resume this next year,as my old dad used to say if ifs and ands were pots and pans there,d be no use for tinkers | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't" There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? " | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? " Without trying to explain economics to you, demand drives up prices and competition drives down prices. If there are 150000 trucks going from Ireland to France then many ferry companies will want in on the action this is called competition. Inevitably prices will rise and fall with demand but in general the increased demand for ferries to and from Ireland to continental Europe is likely to drive prices down and offer greater choice both to commercial and leisure traffic. | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? Without trying to explain economics to you, demand drives up prices and competition drives down prices. If there are 150000 trucks going from Ireland to France then many ferry companies will want in on the action this is called competition. Inevitably prices will rise and fall with demand but in general the increased demand for ferries to and from Ireland to continental Europe is likely to drive prices down and offer greater choice both to commercial and leisure traffic. " So six weekly departures is going to drive prices down? i think they will probably be more expensive. | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? Without trying to explain economics to you, demand drives up prices and competition drives down prices. If there are 150000 trucks going from Ireland to France then many ferry companies will want in on the action this is called competition. Inevitably prices will rise and fall with demand but in general the increased demand for ferries to and from Ireland to continental Europe is likely to drive prices down and offer greater choice both to commercial and leisure traffic. So six weekly departures is going to drive prices down? i think they will probably be more expensive." by a lot | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? Without trying to explain economics to you, demand drives up prices and competition drives down prices. If there are 150000 trucks going from Ireland to France then many ferry companies will want in on the action this is called competition. Inevitably prices will rise and fall with demand but in general the increased demand for ferries to and from Ireland to continental Europe is likely to drive prices down and offer greater choice both to commercial and leisure traffic. So six weekly departures is going to drive prices down? i think they will probably be more expensive. by a lot "maybe not though as the crossing will take 24 hours rather than the 10 1/2 hours going through liverpool at the moment even with the french holding trucks up for 3 hours it will still be quicker. | |||
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"One other massive benefit I forgot . The Irish hauliers don’t need to get involved in the permit scheme so they can send as many trucks as they like to Europe . Unlike U.K. hauliers who now can’t . Still winning I thought that was the whole point of doing it and as i said great that the uk will have much less international traffic travelling through from both ways.Its a win win for everyone.
You need to read up on the permit scheme and see how it is going to hinder international haulage to and from the U.K.
The FTA and RHA are screaming at the government to sort it and issue more permits but they have only issued a limited amount so far. The issue is the continental governments only hand out limited amounts too.
It really is bad news as transport into and out of the U.K. will get more expensive . so the eu intend to hinder their own trade too? that doesnt sound like the eu some are proud of on here.
It’s hurting us more as we get a smaller share and the EU hauliers didn’t need one to go to any other country including the Irish
Coming to the U.K. foreign hauliers can charge more now because we certainly won’t have enough trucks with permits .
Look it up, it’s an ancient fucked up system that’s back to haunt us .
It’s another shining win !
Funny enough i heard all this the other year about aviation and planes from the uk not being able to fly to eu countries i cannot for the life of me seeing them not accepting the ECMT permit and there being a shortage as most of these things are agreed outside of the trade deal.I know you like to look on the down side but lets resume this next year,as my old dad used to say if ifs and ands were pots and pans there,d be no use for tinkers "Transport companies permits are a limited issue thing.. You have to prove your historic usage. The closure on application was last Thursday and this was a second issue based on the uproar over the lack of them. In tne first tranche 45000 were requested by U.K. hauliers and only just over 4000 we’re issued. That has now doubled but way too few. This is the reality not me being negative this is reality as we applied in both issues. One of our international suppliers applied for 30 and got 5 so only 5 trucks abroad at once . It’s utter madness but it’s actually happening I really don’t understand why we have limits but we do. Like I said it’s historic and going back 50 years . Priority is given to food and medicine hauliers . | |||
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"One other massive benefit I forgot . The Irish hauliers don’t need to get involved in the permit scheme so they can send as many trucks as they like to Europe . Unlike U.K. hauliers who now can’t . Still winning I thought that was the whole point of doing it and as i said great that the uk will have much less international traffic travelling through from both ways.Its a win win for everyone.
You need to read up on the permit scheme and see how it is going to hinder international haulage to and from the U.K.
The FTA and RHA are screaming at the government to sort it and issue more permits but they have only issued a limited amount so far. The issue is the continental governments only hand out limited amounts too.
It really is bad news as transport into and out of the U.K. will get more expensive . so the eu intend to hinder their own trade too? that doesnt sound like the eu some are proud of on here.
It’s hurting us more as we get a smaller share and the EU hauliers didn’t need one to go to any other country including the Irish
Coming to the U.K. foreign hauliers can charge more now because we certainly won’t have enough trucks with permits .
Look it up, it’s an ancient fucked up system that’s back to haunt us .
It’s another shining win !
Funny enough i heard all this the other year about aviation and planes from the uk not being able to fly to eu countries i cannot for the life of me seeing them not accepting the ECMT permit and there being a shortage as most of these things are agreed outside of the trade deal.I know you like to look on the down side but lets resume this next year,as my old dad used to say if ifs and ands were pots and pans there,d be no use for tinkers
Transport companies permits are a limited issue thing..
You have to prove your historic usage. The closure on application was last Thursday and this was a second issue based on the uproar over the lack of them.
In tne first tranche 45000 were requested by U.K. hauliers and only just over 4000 we’re issued.
That has now doubled but way too few.
This is the reality not me being negative this is reality as we applied in both issues.
One of our international suppliers applied for 30 and got 5 so only 5 trucks abroad at once .
It’s utter madness but it’s actually happening I really don’t understand why we have limits but we do. Like I said it’s historic and going back 50 years .
Priority is given to food and medicine hauliers . "It is you being negative . Irish exporters are desperate for a quick fix. One solution planners in Brussels, London and Dublin are considering is the so-called authorized economic operator system. This would allow British and EU businesses to send goods across borders as long as they meet predetermined health and safety standards. Customs duties are paid quarterly, which would remove the need to check containers at borders. Instead, EU and British officials would conduct random checks — which could take place some distance from ports to avoid traffic jams. Germany and Switzerland, as well as Sweden and Norway, have a similar arrangement. | |||
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"One other massive benefit I forgot . The Irish hauliers don’t need to get involved in the permit scheme so they can send as many trucks as they like to Europe . Unlike U.K. hauliers who now can’t . Still winning I thought that was the whole point of doing it and as i said great that the uk will have much less international traffic travelling through from both ways.Its a win win for everyone.
You need to read up on the permit scheme and see how it is going to hinder international haulage to and from the U.K.
The FTA and RHA are screaming at the government to sort it and issue more permits but they have only issued a limited amount so far. The issue is the continental governments only hand out limited amounts too.
It really is bad news as transport into and out of the U.K. will get more expensive . so the eu intend to hinder their own trade too? that doesnt sound like the eu some are proud of on here.
It’s hurting us more as we get a smaller share and the EU hauliers didn’t need one to go to any other country including the Irish
Coming to the U.K. foreign hauliers can charge more now because we certainly won’t have enough trucks with permits .
Look it up, it’s an ancient fucked up system that’s back to haunt us .
It’s another shining win !
Funny enough i heard all this the other year about aviation and planes from the uk not being able to fly to eu countries i cannot for the life of me seeing them not accepting the ECMT permit and there being a shortage as most of these things are agreed outside of the trade deal.I know you like to look on the down side but lets resume this next year,as my old dad used to say if ifs and ands were pots and pans there,d be no use for tinkers
Transport companies permits are a limited issue thing..
You have to prove your historic usage. The closure on application was last Thursday and this was a second issue based on the uproar over the lack of them.
In tne first tranche 45000 were requested by U.K. hauliers and only just over 4000 we’re issued.
That has now doubled but way too few.
This is the reality not me being negative this is reality as we applied in both issues.
One of our international suppliers applied for 30 and got 5 so only 5 trucks abroad at once .
It’s utter madness but it’s actually happening I really don’t understand why we have limits but we do. Like I said it’s historic and going back 50 years .
Priority is given to food and medicine hauliers . "Yeah, Brexit is foolish going to bring back red tape or companys it's just these idiotic brexiters with little Englanders minds like you say why go back 50 years. | |||
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"One other massive benefit I forgot . The Irish hauliers don’t need to get involved in the permit scheme so they can send as many trucks as they like to Europe . Unlike U.K. hauliers who now can’t . Still winning I thought that was the whole point of doing it and as i said great that the uk will have much less international traffic travelling through from both ways.Its a win win for everyone.
You need to read up on the permit scheme and see how it is going to hinder international haulage to and from the U.K.
The FTA and RHA are screaming at the government to sort it and issue more permits but they have only issued a limited amount so far. The issue is the continental governments only hand out limited amounts too.
It really is bad news as transport into and out of the U.K. will get more expensive . so the eu intend to hinder their own trade too? that doesnt sound like the eu some are proud of on here.
It’s hurting us more as we get a smaller share and the EU hauliers didn’t need one to go to any other country including the Irish
Coming to the U.K. foreign hauliers can charge more now because we certainly won’t have enough trucks with permits .
Look it up, it’s an ancient fucked up system that’s back to haunt us .
It’s another shining win !
Funny enough i heard all this the other year about aviation and planes from the uk not being able to fly to eu countries i cannot for the life of me seeing them not accepting the ECMT permit and there being a shortage as most of these things are agreed outside of the trade deal.I know you like to look on the down side but lets resume this next year,as my old dad used to say if ifs and ands were pots and pans there,d be no use for tinkers
Transport companies permits are a limited issue thing..
You have to prove your historic usage. The closure on application was last Thursday and this was a second issue based on the uproar over the lack of them.
In tne first tranche 45000 were requested by U.K. hauliers and only just over 4000 we’re issued.
That has now doubled but way too few.
This is the reality not me being negative this is reality as we applied in both issues.
One of our international suppliers applied for 30 and got 5 so only 5 trucks abroad at once .
It’s utter madness but it’s actually happening I really don’t understand why we have limits but we do. Like I said it’s historic and going back 50 years .
Priority is given to food and medicine hauliers . It is you being negative .
Irish exporters are desperate for a quick fix. One solution planners in Brussels, London and Dublin are considering is the so-called authorized economic operator system.
This would allow British and EU businesses to send goods across borders as long as they meet predetermined health and safety standards. Customs duties are paid quarterly, which would remove the need to check containers at borders. Instead, EU and British officials would conduct random checks — which could take place some distance from ports to avoid traffic jams.
Germany and Switzerland, as well as Sweden and Norway, have a similar arrangement."Like I said you need to read what an international haulier permit is because your latest post is not related in any way to my point on permits. it’s a permission to move a truck not what’s being shipped . | |||
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"One other massive benefit I forgot . The Irish hauliers don’t need to get involved in the permit scheme so they can send as many trucks as they like to Europe . Unlike U.K. hauliers who now can’t . Still winning I thought that was the whole point of doing it and as i said great that the uk will have much less international traffic travelling through from both ways.Its a win win for everyone.
You need to read up on the permit scheme and see how it is going to hinder international haulage to and from the U.K.
The FTA and RHA are screaming at the government to sort it and issue more permits but they have only issued a limited amount so far. The issue is the continental governments only hand out limited amounts too.
It really is bad news as transport into and out of the U.K. will get more expensive . so the eu intend to hinder their own trade too? that doesnt sound like the eu some are proud of on here.
It’s hurting us more as we get a smaller share and the EU hauliers didn’t need one to go to any other country including the Irish
Coming to the U.K. foreign hauliers can charge more now because we certainly won’t have enough trucks with permits .
Look it up, it’s an ancient fucked up system that’s back to haunt us .
It’s another shining win !
Funny enough i heard all this the other year about aviation and planes from the uk not being able to fly to eu countries i cannot for the life of me seeing them not accepting the ECMT permit and there being a shortage as most of these things are agreed outside of the trade deal.I know you like to look on the down side but lets resume this next year,as my old dad used to say if ifs and ands were pots and pans there,d be no use for tinkers
Transport companies permits are a limited issue thing..
You have to prove your historic usage. The closure on application was last Thursday and this was a second issue based on the uproar over the lack of them.
In tne first tranche 45000 were requested by U.K. hauliers and only just over 4000 we’re issued.
That has now doubled but way too few.
This is the reality not me being negative this is reality as we applied in both issues.
One of our international suppliers applied for 30 and got 5 so only 5 trucks abroad at once .
It’s utter madness but it’s actually happening I really don’t understand why we have limits but we do. Like I said it’s historic and going back 50 years .
Priority is given to food and medicine hauliers .
Yeah, Brexit is foolish going to bring back red tape or companys it's just these idiotic brexiters with little Englanders minds like you say why go back 50 years. " little englanders do we have little jocks and little taffs too. | |||
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"One other massive benefit I forgot . The Irish hauliers don’t need to get involved in the permit scheme so they can send as many trucks as they like to Europe . Unlike U.K. hauliers who now can’t . Still winning I thought that was the whole point of doing it and as i said great that the uk will have much less international traffic travelling through from both ways.Its a win win for everyone.
You need to read up on the permit scheme and see how it is going to hinder international haulage to and from the U.K.
The FTA and RHA are screaming at the government to sort it and issue more permits but they have only issued a limited amount so far. The issue is the continental governments only hand out limited amounts too.
It really is bad news as transport into and out of the U.K. will get more expensive . so the eu intend to hinder their own trade too? that doesnt sound like the eu some are proud of on here.
It’s hurting us more as we get a smaller share and the EU hauliers didn’t need one to go to any other country including the Irish
Coming to the U.K. foreign hauliers can charge more now because we certainly won’t have enough trucks with permits .
Look it up, it’s an ancient fucked up system that’s back to haunt us .
It’s another shining win !
Funny enough i heard all this the other year about aviation and planes from the uk not being able to fly to eu countries i cannot for the life of me seeing them not accepting the ECMT permit and there being a shortage as most of these things are agreed outside of the trade deal.I know you like to look on the down side but lets resume this next year,as my old dad used to say if ifs and ands were pots and pans there,d be no use for tinkers
Transport companies permits are a limited issue thing..
You have to prove your historic usage. The closure on application was last Thursday and this was a second issue based on the uproar over the lack of them.
In tne first tranche 45000 were requested by U.K. hauliers and only just over 4000 we’re issued.
That has now doubled but way too few.
This is the reality not me being negative this is reality as we applied in both issues.
One of our international suppliers applied for 30 and got 5 so only 5 trucks abroad at once .
It’s utter madness but it’s actually happening I really don’t understand why we have limits but we do. Like I said it’s historic and going back 50 years .
Priority is given to food and medicine hauliers . It is you being negative .
Irish exporters are desperate for a quick fix. One solution planners in Brussels, London and Dublin are considering is the so-called authorized economic operator system.
This would allow British and EU businesses to send goods across borders as long as they meet predetermined health and safety standards. Customs duties are paid quarterly, which would remove the need to check containers at borders. Instead, EU and British officials would conduct random checks — which could take place some distance from ports to avoid traffic jams.
Germany and Switzerland, as well as Sweden and Norway, have a similar arrangement.
Like I said you need to read what an international haulier permit is because your latest post is not related in any way to my point on permits. it’s a permission to move a truck not what’s being shipped .
"Well it is because ireland will need the same permit you are talking about to go through the uk. Unfortunately for ireland it has the uk between it and its biggest customer. this from your own freight transport association . “Ireland is reliant on that accessibility to the U.K. more than any other country in Europe,” said Aidan Flynn, a manager at Freight Transport Association Ireland. Britain is itself a crucial export market for Ireland, buying a total of €15 billion worth of goods last year as well as buying half of the country’s exported beef and 42 percent of its food and drink. But continental markets are far more valuable to Irish exporters, with €45 billion-worth heading to the EU26, according to Ireland's Central Statistics Office. Customs and tariffs between the EU and Britain are among the thorniest problems facing Brexit negotiators, with both sides eager to preserve as much of the status quo as possible. If policymakers fail to find an imaginative way to have frictionless trade — something the EU's chief Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier already warned is impossible — Ireland risks turning into a costly hinterland like Iceland, reliant on infrequent, lengthy ferry connections that bypass the U.K. | |||
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"One other massive benefit I forgot . The Irish hauliers don’t need to get involved in the permit scheme so they can send as many trucks as they like to Europe . Unlike U.K. hauliers who now can’t . Still winning I thought that was the whole point of doing it and as i said great that the uk will have much less international traffic travelling through from both ways.Its a win win for everyone.
You need to read up on the permit scheme and see how it is going to hinder international haulage to and from the U.K.
The FTA and RHA are screaming at the government to sort it and issue more permits but they have only issued a limited amount so far. The issue is the continental governments only hand out limited amounts too.
It really is bad news as transport into and out of the U.K. will get more expensive . so the eu intend to hinder their own trade too? that doesnt sound like the eu some are proud of on here.
It’s hurting us more as we get a smaller share and the EU hauliers didn’t need one to go to any other country including the Irish
Coming to the U.K. foreign hauliers can charge more now because we certainly won’t have enough trucks with permits .
Look it up, it’s an ancient fucked up system that’s back to haunt us .
It’s another shining win !
Funny enough i heard all this the other year about aviation and planes from the uk not being able to fly to eu countries i cannot for the life of me seeing them not accepting the ECMT permit and there being a shortage as most of these things are agreed outside of the trade deal.I know you like to look on the down side but lets resume this next year,as my old dad used to say if ifs and ands were pots and pans there,d be no use for tinkers
Transport companies permits are a limited issue thing..
You have to prove your historic usage. The closure on application was last Thursday and this was a second issue based on the uproar over the lack of them.
In tne first tranche 45000 were requested by U.K. hauliers and only just over 4000 we’re issued.
That has now doubled but way too few.
This is the reality not me being negative this is reality as we applied in both issues.
One of our international suppliers applied for 30 and got 5 so only 5 trucks abroad at once .
It’s utter madness but it’s actually happening I really don’t understand why we have limits but we do. Like I said it’s historic and going back 50 years .
Priority is given to food and medicine hauliers . It is you being negative .
Irish exporters are desperate for a quick fix. One solution planners in Brussels, London and Dublin are considering is the so-called authorized economic operator system.
This would allow British and EU businesses to send goods across borders as long as they meet predetermined health and safety standards. Customs duties are paid quarterly, which would remove the need to check containers at borders. Instead, EU and British officials would conduct random checks — which could take place some distance from ports to avoid traffic jams.
Germany and Switzerland, as well as Sweden and Norway, have a similar arrangement.
Like I said you need to read what an international haulier permit is because your latest post is not related in any way to my point on permits. it’s a permission to move a truck not what’s being shipped .
Well it is because ireland will need the same permit you are talking about to go through the uk. Unfortunately for ireland it has the uk between it and its biggest customer.
this from your own freight transport association .
“Ireland is reliant on that accessibility to the U.K. more than any other country in Europe,” said Aidan Flynn, a manager at Freight Transport Association Ireland.
Britain is itself a crucial export market for Ireland, buying a total of €15 billion worth of goods last year as well as buying half of the country’s exported beef and 42 percent of its food and drink. But continental markets are far more valuable to Irish exporters, with €45 billion-worth heading to the EU26, according to Ireland's Central Statistics Office.
Customs and tariffs between the EU and Britain are among the thorniest problems facing Brexit negotiators, with both sides eager to preserve as much of the status quo as possible. If policymakers fail to find an imaginative way to have frictionless trade — something the EU's chief Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier already warned is impossible — Ireland risks turning into a costly hinterland like Iceland, reliant on infrequent, lengthy ferry connections that bypass the U.K."Have you missed the original posts about direct ferries bypassing the U.K. as they come on line month by month they need us a lot less. They have started. The ferries are massive and will take that crossing of the U.K. out of the equation as it’s the overall plan to bypass the U.K. We need the imports of Irish food as we are a net importer by a big margin . Our biggest export to Ireland is oil as i said. Ireland is the 7th richest country in the world by GDP thanks to Amazon and Google. I can’t see them being too afraid of us or wandering into any dark corner of hinterland. Your grasping again at the slightest possibility of other country’s demise which seems to be a brexiteers defence and version of winning. Very bizarre. M&S in Northern Ireland d have warned of a 15% reduction in food product lines due to new import rules for food from England, S Irlams and Wales. That must be another win for brexiteers. We will pay for the food including the tariffs or as we mentioned earlier be importing American drug infested beef to save money. I’m not being negative I just can see no benefits yet. Just costs and loss of exports . | |||
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"One other massive benefit I forgot . The Irish hauliers don’t need to get involved in the permit scheme so they can send as many trucks as they like to Europe . Unlike U.K. hauliers who now can’t . Still winning I thought that was the whole point of doing it and as i said great that the uk will have much less international traffic travelling through from both ways.Its a win win for everyone.
You need to read up on the permit scheme and see how it is going to hinder international haulage to and from the U.K.
The FTA and RHA are screaming at the government to sort it and issue more permits but they have only issued a limited amount so far. The issue is the continental governments only hand out limited amounts too.
It really is bad news as transport into and out of the U.K. will get more expensive . so the eu intend to hinder their own trade too? that doesnt sound like the eu some are proud of on here.
It’s hurting us more as we get a smaller share and the EU hauliers didn’t need one to go to any other country including the Irish
Coming to the U.K. foreign hauliers can charge more now because we certainly won’t have enough trucks with permits .
Look it up, it’s an ancient fucked up system that’s back to haunt us .
It’s another shining win !
Funny enough i heard all this the other year about aviation and planes from the uk not being able to fly to eu countries i cannot for the life of me seeing them not accepting the ECMT permit and there being a shortage as most of these things are agreed outside of the trade deal.I know you like to look on the down side but lets resume this next year,as my old dad used to say if ifs and ands were pots and pans there,d be no use for tinkers
Transport companies permits are a limited issue thing..
You have to prove your historic usage. The closure on application was last Thursday and this was a second issue based on the uproar over the lack of them.
In tne first tranche 45000 were requested by U.K. hauliers and only just over 4000 we’re issued.
That has now doubled but way too few.
This is the reality not me being negative this is reality as we applied in both issues.
One of our international suppliers applied for 30 and got 5 so only 5 trucks abroad at once .
It’s utter madness but it’s actually happening I really don’t understand why we have limits but we do. Like I said it’s historic and going back 50 years .
Priority is given to food and medicine hauliers . It is you being negative .
Irish exporters are desperate for a quick fix. One solution planners in Brussels, London and Dublin are considering is the so-called authorized economic operator system.
This would allow British and EU businesses to send goods across borders as long as they meet predetermined health and safety standards. Customs duties are paid quarterly, which would remove the need to check containers at borders. Instead, EU and British officials would conduct random checks — which could take place some distance from ports to avoid traffic jams.
Germany and Switzerland, as well as Sweden and Norway, have a similar arrangement.
Like I said you need to read what an international haulier permit is because your latest post is not related in any way to my point on permits. it’s a permission to move a truck not what’s being shipped .
Well it is because ireland will need the same permit you are talking about to go through the uk. Unfortunately for ireland it has the uk between it and its biggest customer.
this from your own freight transport association .
“Ireland is reliant on that accessibility to the U.K. more than any other country in Europe,” said Aidan Flynn, a manager at Freight Transport Association Ireland.
Britain is itself a crucial export market for Ireland, buying a total of €15 billion worth of goods last year as well as buying half of the country’s exported beef and 42 percent of its food and drink. But continental markets are far more valuable to Irish exporters, with €45 billion-worth heading to the EU26, according to Ireland's Central Statistics Office.
Customs and tariffs between the EU and Britain are among the thorniest problems facing Brexit negotiators, with both sides eager to preserve as much of the status quo as possible. If policymakers fail to find an imaginative way to have frictionless trade — something the EU's chief Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier already warned is impossible — Ireland risks turning into a costly hinterland like Iceland, reliant on infrequent, lengthy ferry connections that bypass the U.K.
Have you missed the original posts about direct ferries bypassing the U.K. as they come on line month by month they need us a lot less. They have started. The ferries are massive and will take that crossing of the U.K. out of the equation as it’s the overall plan to bypass the U.K.
We need the imports of Irish food as we are a net importer by a big margin .
Our biggest export to Ireland is oil as i said.
Ireland is the 7th richest country in the world by GDP thanks to Amazon and Google.
I can’t see them being too afraid of us or wandering into any dark corner of hinterland.
Your grasping again at the slightest possibility of other country’s demise which seems to be a brexiteers defence and version of winning. Very bizarre.
M&S in Northern Ireland d have warned of a 15% reduction in food product lines due to new import rules for food from England, S Irlams and Wales. That must be another win for brexiteers.
We will pay for the food including the tariffs or as we mentioned earlier be importing American drug infested beef to save money.
I’m not being negative I just can see no benefits yet. Just costs and loss of exports .
"Not me mate i love Ireland and the irish its a great place and hope all goes well for them im just a bit concerned that they are going to get thrown under the bus as they sell a lot more to europe than they buy from them.Im just quoting what the irish freight association is saying.Im not looking for a demise in ireland or the eu for that matter just pointing out the fact that all the negativity you are aiming at the uk works both ways and is actually a double wammy for ireland due to its location. | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? Without trying to explain economics to you, demand drives up prices and competition drives down prices. If there are 150000 trucks going from Ireland to France then many ferry companies will want in on the action this is called competition. Inevitably prices will rise and fall with demand but in general the increased demand for ferries to and from Ireland to continental Europe is likely to drive prices down and offer greater choice both to commercial and leisure traffic. " Competition relies on the customers having a few alternatives. If the traditional trip across the UK is either impossible or extremely expensive then the ferry companies can keep charges high knowing the customers don't have a choice | |||
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"Sad reality There are no benefits of brexit, well no economic ones anyway." Of course there is the uk can do its own trade deals with the rest of the world, for a starter the trade deficit for the uk with the eu is £79 billion a year and we pay for that privilege im sure even our worse negotiator can get a better deal than that with other companies. | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? Without trying to explain economics to you, demand drives up prices and competition drives down prices. If there are 150000 trucks going from Ireland to France then many ferry companies will want in on the action this is called competition. Inevitably prices will rise and fall with demand but in general the increased demand for ferries to and from Ireland to continental Europe is likely to drive prices down and offer greater choice both to commercial and leisure traffic. Competition relies on the customers having a few alternatives. If the traditional trip across the UK is either impossible or extremely expensive then the ferry companies can keep charges high knowing the customers don't have a choice" We were discussing Ireland to France not sure why your talking about uk but anyway... | |||
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"Sad reality There are no benefits of brexit, well no economic ones anyway.Of course there is the uk can do its own trade deals with the rest of the world, for a starter the trade deficit for the uk with the eu is £79 billion a year and we pay for that privilege im sure even our worse negotiator can get a better deal than that with other companies. "Yep, the canada deal worth billions . Maybe | |||
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"Sad reality There are no benefits of brexit, well no economic ones anyway.Of course there is the uk can do its own trade deals with the rest of the world, for a starter the trade deficit for the uk with the eu is £79 billion a year and we pay for that privilege im sure even our worse negotiator can get a better deal than that with other companies.
Yep, the canada deal worth billions
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"Sad reality There are no benefits of brexit, well no economic ones anyway.Of course there is the uk can do its own trade deals with the rest of the world, for a starter the trade deficit for the uk with the eu is £79 billion a year and we pay for that privilege im sure even our worse negotiator can get a better deal than that with other companies.
Yep, the canada deal worth billions
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"Sad reality There are no benefits of brexit, well no economic ones anyway.Of course there is the uk can do its own trade deals with the rest of the world, for a starter the trade deficit for the uk with the eu is £79 billion a year and we pay for that privilege im sure even our worse negotiator can get a better deal than that with other companies.
Yep, the canada deal worth billions
. MaybeThere will be others just give it a bit of time but even you can see the deficit the uk has and why people like me have had enough with an ever shrinking piece of the pie.Its time to branch out.
We'll never agree on brexit but do let me know first time you come across a tangible benefit that's not just an aspiration."Everything is speculation until next year anyway so why not have aspirations, i have faith in the uk to make it a success you only need to look how everyday businesses have adapted to covid. | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? Without trying to explain economics to you, demand drives up prices and competition drives down prices. If there are 150000 trucks going from Ireland to France then many ferry companies will want in on the action this is called competition. Inevitably prices will rise and fall with demand but in general the increased demand for ferries to and from Ireland to continental Europe is likely to drive prices down and offer greater choice both to commercial and leisure traffic. Competition relies on the customers having a few alternatives. If the traditional trip across the UK is either impossible or extremely expensive then the ferry companies can keep charges high knowing the customers don't have a choice" There are multiple ferry companies to keep a lid on exploitation . They are however being helped by the restrictions and costs being imposed going across the U.K. so can exploit the routes with added margin but keep the prices competitive compared to transiting the U.K.. ferry companies don’t buy super ferries on a whim! It’s going to be good business. And easier for the customers to use. | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? Without trying to explain economics to you, demand drives up prices and competition drives down prices. If there are 150000 trucks going from Ireland to France then many ferry companies will want in on the action this is called competition. Inevitably prices will rise and fall with demand but in general the increased demand for ferries to and from Ireland to continental Europe is likely to drive prices down and offer greater choice both to commercial and leisure traffic. Competition relies on the customers having a few alternatives. If the traditional trip across the UK is either impossible or extremely expensive then the ferry companies can keep charges high knowing the customers don't have a choice There are multiple ferry companies to keep a lid on exploitation . They are however being helped by the restrictions and costs being imposed going across the U.K. so can exploit the routes with added margin but keep the prices competitive compared to transiting the U.K.. ferry companies don’t buy super ferries on a whim! It’s going to be good business. And easier for the customers to use. " true but the last time i looked there was one that can carry 580 trucks with one sailing a week that takes 30 hours and the other that can take 125 trucks that leaves zeebrugge on a friday arrives cork on sunday leaving again tuesday for arrival thursday.There are at least 10 crossings every day to hollihead ive not looked at how many to liverpool. | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? Without trying to explain economics to you, demand drives up prices and competition drives down prices. If there are 150000 trucks going from Ireland to France then many ferry companies will want in on the action this is called competition. Inevitably prices will rise and fall with demand but in general the increased demand for ferries to and from Ireland to continental Europe is likely to drive prices down and offer greater choice both to commercial and leisure traffic. Competition relies on the customers having a few alternatives. If the traditional trip across the UK is either impossible or extremely expensive then the ferry companies can keep charges high knowing the customers don't have a choice There are multiple ferry companies to keep a lid on exploitation . They are however being helped by the restrictions and costs being imposed going across the U.K. so can exploit the routes with added margin but keep the prices competitive compared to transiting the U.K.. ferry companies don’t buy super ferries on a whim! It’s going to be good business. And easier for the customers to use. true but the last time i looked there was one that can carry 580 trucks with one sailing a week that takes 30 hours and the other that can take 125 trucks that leaves zeebrugge on a friday arrives cork on sunday leaving again tuesday for arrival thursday.There are at least 10 crossings every day to hollihead ive not looked at how many to liverpool." Look again Cobelfret DFDS Irish ferries Stenna All piling in Plus container lines such as BG freight Unifeeder all increasing capacity . They are exploiting the fuck up of Brexit . | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? Without trying to explain economics to you, demand drives up prices and competition drives down prices. If there are 150000 trucks going from Ireland to France then many ferry companies will want in on the action this is called competition. Inevitably prices will rise and fall with demand but in general the increased demand for ferries to and from Ireland to continental Europe is likely to drive prices down and offer greater choice both to commercial and leisure traffic. Competition relies on the customers having a few alternatives. If the traditional trip across the UK is either impossible or extremely expensive then the ferry companies can keep charges high knowing the customers don't have a choice There are multiple ferry companies to keep a lid on exploitation . They are however being helped by the restrictions and costs being imposed going across the U.K. so can exploit the routes with added margin but keep the prices competitive compared to transiting the U.K.. ferry companies don’t buy super ferries on a whim! It’s going to be good business. And easier for the customers to use. true but the last time i looked there was one that can carry 580 trucks with one sailing a week that takes 30 hours and the other that can take 125 trucks that leaves zeebrugge on a friday arrives cork on sunday leaving again tuesday for arrival thursday.There are at least 10 crossings every day to hollihead ive not looked at how many to liverpool. Look again Cobelfret DFDS Irish ferries Stenna All piling in Plus container lines such as BG freight Unifeeder all increasing capacity . They are exploiting the fuck up of Brexit . " As i said before i hope all irish trade goes direct to and from europe it will be good for you and also good for the uk, less trucks on the road ,less damage to the roads,less accidents,less air polution and less illegal immigrants.It will also without all the extra trucks speed up the customs for uk trade.Its a win win for both. | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? Without trying to explain economics to you, demand drives up prices and competition drives down prices. If there are 150000 trucks going from Ireland to France then many ferry companies will want in on the action this is called competition. Inevitably prices will rise and fall with demand but in general the increased demand for ferries to and from Ireland to continental Europe is likely to drive prices down and offer greater choice both to commercial and leisure traffic. Competition relies on the customers having a few alternatives. If the traditional trip across the UK is either impossible or extremely expensive then the ferry companies can keep charges high knowing the customers don't have a choice There are multiple ferry companies to keep a lid on exploitation . They are however being helped by the restrictions and costs being imposed going across the U.K. so can exploit the routes with added margin but keep the prices competitive compared to transiting the U.K.. ferry companies don’t buy super ferries on a whim! It’s going to be good business. And easier for the customers to use. true but the last time i looked there was one that can carry 580 trucks with one sailing a week that takes 30 hours and the other that can take 125 trucks that leaves zeebrugge on a friday arrives cork on sunday leaving again tuesday for arrival thursday.There are at least 10 crossings every day to hollihead ive not looked at how many to liverpool. Look again Cobelfret DFDS Irish ferries Stenna All piling in Plus container lines such as BG freight Unifeeder all increasing capacity . They are exploiting the fuck up of Brexit . As i said before i hope all irish trade goes direct to and from europe it will be good for you and also good for the uk, less trucks on the road ,less damage to the roads,less accidents,less air polution and less illegal immigrants.It will also without all the extra trucks speed up the customs for uk trade.Its a win win for both." So the job losses in the ferry terminals restricted food choice in Northern Ireland and more expensive food for the U.K. is just fine then. Not sure that’s a win win but maybe in unicorn Brexit world . Ireland will be fine I’m sure and good luck to them. | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? Without trying to explain economics to you, demand drives up prices and competition drives down prices. If there are 150000 trucks going from Ireland to France then many ferry companies will want in on the action this is called competition. Inevitably prices will rise and fall with demand but in general the increased demand for ferries to and from Ireland to continental Europe is likely to drive prices down and offer greater choice both to commercial and leisure traffic. Competition relies on the customers having a few alternatives. If the traditional trip across the UK is either impossible or extremely expensive then the ferry companies can keep charges high knowing the customers don't have a choice There are multiple ferry companies to keep a lid on exploitation . They are however being helped by the restrictions and costs being imposed going across the U.K. so can exploit the routes with added margin but keep the prices competitive compared to transiting the U.K.. ferry companies don’t buy super ferries on a whim! It’s going to be good business. And easier for the customers to use. true but the last time i looked there was one that can carry 580 trucks with one sailing a week that takes 30 hours and the other that can take 125 trucks that leaves zeebrugge on a friday arrives cork on sunday leaving again tuesday for arrival thursday.There are at least 10 crossings every day to hollihead ive not looked at how many to liverpool. Look again Cobelfret DFDS Irish ferries Stenna All piling in Plus container lines such as BG freight Unifeeder all increasing capacity . They are exploiting the fuck up of Brexit . As i said before i hope all irish trade goes direct to and from europe it will be good for you and also good for the uk, less trucks on the road ,less damage to the roads,less accidents,less air polution and less illegal immigrants.It will also without all the extra trucks speed up the customs for uk trade.Its a win win for both. So the job losses in the ferry terminals restricted food choice in Northern Ireland and more expensive food for the U.K. is just fine then. Not sure that’s a win win but maybe in unicorn Brexit world . Ireland will be fine I’m sure and good luck to them. " You know a all that is going to happen or just being your usual negative self? | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? Without trying to explain economics to you, demand drives up prices and competition drives down prices. If there are 150000 trucks going from Ireland to France then many ferry companies will want in on the action this is called competition. Inevitably prices will rise and fall with demand but in general the increased demand for ferries to and from Ireland to continental Europe is likely to drive prices down and offer greater choice both to commercial and leisure traffic. Competition relies on the customers having a few alternatives. If the traditional trip across the UK is either impossible or extremely expensive then the ferry companies can keep charges high knowing the customers don't have a choice There are multiple ferry companies to keep a lid on exploitation . They are however being helped by the restrictions and costs being imposed going across the U.K. so can exploit the routes with added margin but keep the prices competitive compared to transiting the U.K.. ferry companies don’t buy super ferries on a whim! It’s going to be good business. And easier for the customers to use. true but the last time i looked there was one that can carry 580 trucks with one sailing a week that takes 30 hours and the other that can take 125 trucks that leaves zeebrugge on a friday arrives cork on sunday leaving again tuesday for arrival thursday.There are at least 10 crossings every day to hollihead ive not looked at how many to liverpool. Look again Cobelfret DFDS Irish ferries Stenna All piling in Plus container lines such as BG freight Unifeeder all increasing capacity . They are exploiting the fuck up of Brexit . As i said before i hope all irish trade goes direct to and from europe it will be good for you and also good for the uk, less trucks on the road ,less damage to the roads,less accidents,less air polution and less illegal immigrants.It will also without all the extra trucks speed up the customs for uk trade.Its a win win for both. So the job losses in the ferry terminals restricted food choice in Northern Ireland and more expensive food for the U.K. is just fine then. Not sure that’s a win win but maybe in unicorn Brexit world . Ireland will be fine I’m sure and good luck to them. You know a all that is going to happen or just being your usual negative self?" Maybe people would be less negative if they were shown tangible economic benefits of brexit that aren't simply aspirations ? Just saying ... | |||
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"Sad reality There are no benefits of brexit, well no economic ones anyway.Of course there is the uk can do its own trade deals with the rest of the world, for a starter the trade deficit for the uk with the eu is £79 billion a year and we pay for that privilege im sure even our worse negotiator can get a better deal than that with other companies.
Yep, the canada deal worth billions
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We'll never agree on brexit but do let me know first time you come across a tangible benefit that's not just an aspiration.Everything is speculation until next year anyway so why not have aspirations, i have faith in the uk to make it a success you only need to look how everyday businesses have adapted to covid."Hmmm not so sure can you give examples ? | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? Without trying to explain economics to you, demand drives up prices and competition drives down prices. If there are 150000 trucks going from Ireland to France then many ferry companies will want in on the action this is called competition. Inevitably prices will rise and fall with demand but in general the increased demand for ferries to and from Ireland to continental Europe is likely to drive prices down and offer greater choice both to commercial and leisure traffic. Competition relies on the customers having a few alternatives. If the traditional trip across the UK is either impossible or extremely expensive then the ferry companies can keep charges high knowing the customers don't have a choice There are multiple ferry companies to keep a lid on exploitation . They are however being helped by the restrictions and costs being imposed going across the U.K. so can exploit the routes with added margin but keep the prices competitive compared to transiting the U.K.. ferry companies don’t buy super ferries on a whim! It’s going to be good business. And easier for the customers to use. true but the last time i looked there was one that can carry 580 trucks with one sailing a week that takes 30 hours and the other that can take 125 trucks that leaves zeebrugge on a friday arrives cork on sunday leaving again tuesday for arrival thursday.There are at least 10 crossings every day to hollihead ive not looked at how many to liverpool. Look again Cobelfret DFDS Irish ferries Stenna All piling in Plus container lines such as BG freight Unifeeder all increasing capacity . They are exploiting the fuck up of Brexit . As i said before i hope all irish trade goes direct to and from europe it will be good for you and also good for the uk, less trucks on the road ,less damage to the roads,less accidents,less air polution and less illegal immigrants.It will also without all the extra trucks speed up the customs for uk trade.Its a win win for both. So the job losses in the ferry terminals restricted food choice in Northern Ireland and more expensive food for the U.K. is just fine then. Not sure that’s a win win but maybe in unicorn Brexit world . Ireland will be fine I’m sure and good luck to them. You know a all that is going to happen or just being your usual negative self? Maybe people would be less negative if they were shown tangible economic benefits of brexit that aren't simply aspirations ? Just saying ..." Isnt that the fundamental problem? You didnt have teams of economic experts looking at the pros and cons of leaving the eu. You had the likes of the mail farage banging on about being told what to do and know we are left with a very uncertain future. I cant help what people will be thinking in 10/20 years time. | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? Without trying to explain economics to you, demand drives up prices and competition drives down prices. If there are 150000 trucks going from Ireland to France then many ferry companies will want in on the action this is called competition. Inevitably prices will rise and fall with demand but in general the increased demand for ferries to and from Ireland to continental Europe is likely to drive prices down and offer greater choice both to commercial and leisure traffic. Competition relies on the customers having a few alternatives. If the traditional trip across the UK is either impossible or extremely expensive then the ferry companies can keep charges high knowing the customers don't have a choice There are multiple ferry companies to keep a lid on exploitation . They are however being helped by the restrictions and costs being imposed going across the U.K. so can exploit the routes with added margin but keep the prices competitive compared to transiting the U.K.. ferry companies don’t buy super ferries on a whim! It’s going to be good business. And easier for the customers to use. true but the last time i looked there was one that can carry 580 trucks with one sailing a week that takes 30 hours and the other that can take 125 trucks that leaves zeebrugge on a friday arrives cork on sunday leaving again tuesday for arrival thursday.There are at least 10 crossings every day to hollihead ive not looked at how many to liverpool. Look again Cobelfret DFDS Irish ferries Stenna All piling in Plus container lines such as BG freight Unifeeder all increasing capacity . They are exploiting the fuck up of Brexit . As i said before i hope all irish trade goes direct to and from europe it will be good for you and also good for the uk, less trucks on the road ,less damage to the roads,less accidents,less air polution and less illegal immigrants.It will also without all the extra trucks speed up the customs for uk trade.Its a win win for both. So the job losses in the ferry terminals restricted food choice in Northern Ireland and more expensive food for the U.K. is just fine then. Not sure that’s a win win but maybe in unicorn Brexit world . Ireland will be fine I’m sure and good luck to them. You know a all that is going to happen or just being your usual negative self?" M&S are pretty trustworthy so can’t see them lying about it. If no deal Tariffs will increase food that’s pretty much a fact Less ferries so less work and revenue. The terminals won’t pay for people to do nothing so result, cutbacks so read job losses. Less suppliers providing for ferries from U.K. companies. Lost revenue, again a fact. No revenue from Vignettes paid by Irish hauliers to the U.K. exchequer if they don’t transit U.K. Leas spent by Irish tourists transmitting the U.K. to France etc. So less on fuel tax revenue food hotels on said tourists . Facts Repeat with Dover Portsmouth ferry terminals as these vehicles exit so times losses by two. They are all facts apart from tariffs as Boris is trying to resolve that nightmare as we speak . Well hopefully he is. Can’t verify that as a fact. Still waiting on wins (facts ) from Brexit that create jobs and wealth not wishful thinking blind belief Other than customs brokerages I don’t know any business that are benefitting from Brexit in the U.K. . 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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? Without trying to explain economics to you, demand drives up prices and competition drives down prices. If there are 150000 trucks going from Ireland to France then many ferry companies will want in on the action this is called competition. Inevitably prices will rise and fall with demand but in general the increased demand for ferries to and from Ireland to continental Europe is likely to drive prices down and offer greater choice both to commercial and leisure traffic. Competition relies on the customers having a few alternatives. If the traditional trip across the UK is either impossible or extremely expensive then the ferry companies can keep charges high knowing the customers don't have a choice We were discussing Ireland to France not sure why your talking about uk but anyway..." Because as I say in my post the usual trip across the UK may be impossible or very expensive if other posters are to be believed. So to get goods to the EU the ferry companies have a captive audience with no alternative | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? Without trying to explain economics to you, demand drives up prices and competition drives down prices. If there are 150000 trucks going from Ireland to France then many ferry companies will want in on the action this is called competition. Inevitably prices will rise and fall with demand but in general the increased demand for ferries to and from Ireland to continental Europe is likely to drive prices down and offer greater choice both to commercial and leisure traffic. Competition relies on the customers having a few alternatives. If the traditional trip across the UK is either impossible or extremely expensive then the ferry companies can keep charges high knowing the customers don't have a choice We were discussing Ireland to France not sure why your talking about uk but anyway... Because as I say in my post the usual trip across the UK may be impossible or very expensive if other posters are to be believed. So to get goods to the EU the ferry companies have a captive audience with no alternative" Plans have already been made and ports upgraded for direct shipments from mainland Europe to Ireland. It was in place last year as all companies supplying critical goods like medical equipment were informed. They have at least got plans in place unlike Boris who appears to be winging it | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? Without trying to explain economics to you, demand drives up prices and competition drives down prices. If there are 150000 trucks going from Ireland to France then many ferry companies will want in on the action this is called competition. Inevitably prices will rise and fall with demand but in general the increased demand for ferries to and from Ireland to continental Europe is likely to drive prices down and offer greater choice both to commercial and leisure traffic. Competition relies on the customers having a few alternatives. If the traditional trip across the UK is either impossible or extremely expensive then the ferry companies can keep charges high knowing the customers don't have a choice We were discussing Ireland to France not sure why your talking about uk but anyway... Because as I say in my post the usual trip across the UK may be impossible or very expensive if other posters are to be believed. So to get goods to the EU the ferry companies have a captive audience with no alternative Plans have already been made and ports upgraded for direct shipments from mainland Europe to Ireland. It was in place last year as all companies supplying critical goods like medical equipment were informed. They have at least got plans in place unlike Boris who appears to be winging it " I don't doubt it and did not suggest any such thing. Ferry companies will have a captive audience and charge as they wish if the land bridge is no longer viable. I expect they are very happy with 150000 guaranteed customers | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? Without trying to explain economics to you, demand drives up prices and competition drives down prices. If there are 150000 trucks going from Ireland to France then many ferry companies will want in on the action this is called competition. Inevitably prices will rise and fall with demand but in general the increased demand for ferries to and from Ireland to continental Europe is likely to drive prices down and offer greater choice both to commercial and leisure traffic. Competition relies on the customers having a few alternatives. If the traditional trip across the UK is either impossible or extremely expensive then the ferry companies can keep charges high knowing the customers don't have a choice We were discussing Ireland to France not sure why your talking about uk but anyway... Because as I say in my post the usual trip across the UK may be impossible or very expensive if other posters are to be believed. So to get goods to the EU the ferry companies have a captive audience with no alternative Plans have already been made and ports upgraded for direct shipments from mainland Europe to Ireland. It was in place last year as all companies supplying critical goods like medical equipment were informed. They have at least got plans in place unlike Boris who appears to be winging it I don't doubt it and did not suggest any such thing. Ferry companies will have a captive audience and charge as they wish if the land bridge is no longer viable. I expect they are very happy with 150000 guaranteed customers" I am sure it will be beneficial to both the hauliers and the Ferry companies, the time they will save will also be beneficial | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? Without trying to explain economics to you, demand drives up prices and competition drives down prices. If there are 150000 trucks going from Ireland to France then many ferry companies will want in on the action this is called competition. Inevitably prices will rise and fall with demand but in general the increased demand for ferries to and from Ireland to continental Europe is likely to drive prices down and offer greater choice both to commercial and leisure traffic. Competition relies on the customers having a few alternatives. If the traditional trip across the UK is either impossible or extremely expensive then the ferry companies can keep charges high knowing the customers don't have a choice We were discussing Ireland to France not sure why your talking about uk but anyway... Because as I say in my post the usual trip across the UK may be impossible or very expensive if other posters are to be believed. So to get goods to the EU the ferry companies have a captive audience with no alternative Plans have already been made and ports upgraded for direct shipments from mainland Europe to Ireland. It was in place last year as all companies supplying critical goods like medical equipment were informed. They have at least got plans in place unlike Boris who appears to be winging it I don't doubt it and did not suggest any such thing. Ferry companies will have a captive audience and charge as they wish if the land bridge is no longer viable. I expect they are very happy with 150000 guaranteed customers I am sure it will be beneficial to both the hauliers and the Ferry companies, the time they will save will also be beneficial " Time saved? Definitely good for ferries they can charge as they please | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? Without trying to explain economics to you, demand drives up prices and competition drives down prices. If there are 150000 trucks going from Ireland to France then many ferry companies will want in on the action this is called competition. Inevitably prices will rise and fall with demand but in general the increased demand for ferries to and from Ireland to continental Europe is likely to drive prices down and offer greater choice both to commercial and leisure traffic. Competition relies on the customers having a few alternatives. If the traditional trip across the UK is either impossible or extremely expensive then the ferry companies can keep charges high knowing the customers don't have a choice We were discussing Ireland to France not sure why your talking about uk but anyway... Because as I say in my post the usual trip across the UK may be impossible or very expensive if other posters are to be believed. So to get goods to the EU the ferry companies have a captive audience with no alternative Plans have already been made and ports upgraded for direct shipments from mainland Europe to Ireland. It was in place last year as all companies supplying critical goods like medical equipment were informed. They have at least got plans in place unlike Boris who appears to be winging it I don't doubt it and did not suggest any such thing. Ferry companies will have a captive audience and charge as they wish if the land bridge is no longer viable. I expect they are very happy with 150000 guaranteed customers I am sure it will be beneficial to both the hauliers and the Ferry companies, the time they will save will also be beneficial Time saved? Definitely good for ferries they can charge as they please" Yeah, time saved, it will be quicker to get a ferry to France than waiting in a queue for hours | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? Without trying to explain economics to you, demand drives up prices and competition drives down prices. If there are 150000 trucks going from Ireland to France then many ferry companies will want in on the action this is called competition. Inevitably prices will rise and fall with demand but in general the increased demand for ferries to and from Ireland to continental Europe is likely to drive prices down and offer greater choice both to commercial and leisure traffic. Competition relies on the customers having a few alternatives. If the traditional trip across the UK is either impossible or extremely expensive then the ferry companies can keep charges high knowing the customers don't have a choice We were discussing Ireland to France not sure why your talking about uk but anyway... Because as I say in my post the usual trip across the UK may be impossible or very expensive if other posters are to be believed. So to get goods to the EU the ferry companies have a captive audience with no alternative Plans have already been made and ports upgraded for direct shipments from mainland Europe to Ireland. It was in place last year as all companies supplying critical goods like medical equipment were informed. They have at least got plans in place unlike Boris who appears to be winging it I don't doubt it and did not suggest any such thing. Ferry companies will have a captive audience and charge as they wish if the land bridge is no longer viable. I expect they are very happy with 150000 guaranteed customers I am sure it will be beneficial to both the hauliers and the Ferry companies, the time they will save will also be beneficial Time saved? Definitely good for ferries they can charge as they please Yeah, time saved, it will be quicker to get a ferry to France than waiting in a queue for hours " | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? Without trying to explain economics to you, demand drives up prices and competition drives down prices. If there are 150000 trucks going from Ireland to France then many ferry companies will want in on the action this is called competition. Inevitably prices will rise and fall with demand but in general the increased demand for ferries to and from Ireland to continental Europe is likely to drive prices down and offer greater choice both to commercial and leisure traffic. Competition relies on the customers having a few alternatives. If the traditional trip across the UK is either impossible or extremely expensive then the ferry companies can keep charges high knowing the customers don't have a choice We were discussing Ireland to France not sure why your talking about uk but anyway... Because as I say in my post the usual trip across the UK may be impossible or very expensive if other posters are to be believed. So to get goods to the EU the ferry companies have a captive audience with no alternative Plans have already been made and ports upgraded for direct shipments from mainland Europe to Ireland. It was in place last year as all companies supplying critical goods like medical equipment were informed. They have at least got plans in place unlike Boris who appears to be winging it I don't doubt it and did not suggest any such thing. Ferry companies will have a captive audience and charge as they wish if the land bridge is no longer viable. I expect they are very happy with 150000 guaranteed customers I am sure it will be beneficial to both the hauliers and the Ferry companies, the time they will save will also be beneficial Time saved? Definitely good for ferries they can charge as they please" With your logic they would have charged what they please to cross to the U.K. yeas ago as they had a captive customer base. didn’t see a non competitive market there. As I said before there’s more than one option so the competition will be there to keep prices sensible for Ireland to Europe ferries. It just has to be cheaper and easier than coming through the U.K. That’s the only ceiling plus a bit more cost for speed and ease of use. What we maybe need to worry about is the prices rising on the Ireland - U.K. route due to a drop in traffic numbers. Increasing overheads per vehicle.. that’s going to add to food imports. | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? Without trying to explain economics to you, demand drives up prices and competition drives down prices. If there are 150000 trucks going from Ireland to France then many ferry companies will want in on the action this is called competition. Inevitably prices will rise and fall with demand but in general the increased demand for ferries to and from Ireland to continental Europe is likely to drive prices down and offer greater choice both to commercial and leisure traffic. Competition relies on the customers having a few alternatives. If the traditional trip across the UK is either impossible or extremely expensive then the ferry companies can keep charges high knowing the customers don't have a choice We were discussing Ireland to France not sure why your talking about uk but anyway... Because as I say in my post the usual trip across the UK may be impossible or very expensive if other posters are to be believed. So to get goods to the EU the ferry companies have a captive audience with no alternative Plans have already been made and ports upgraded for direct shipments from mainland Europe to Ireland. It was in place last year as all companies supplying critical goods like medical equipment were informed. They have at least got plans in place unlike Boris who appears to be winging it I don't doubt it and did not suggest any such thing. Ferry companies will have a captive audience and charge as they wish if the land bridge is no longer viable. I expect they are very happy with 150000 guaranteed customers I am sure it will be beneficial to both the hauliers and the Ferry companies, the time they will save will also be beneficial Time saved? Definitely good for ferries they can charge as they please With your logic they would have charged what they please to cross to the U.K. yeas ago as they had a captive customer base. didn’t see a non competitive market there. As I said before there’s more than one option so the competition will be there to keep prices sensible for Ireland to Europe ferries. It just has to be cheaper and easier than coming through the U.K. That’s the only ceiling plus a bit more cost for speed and ease of use. What we maybe need to worry about is the prices rising on the Ireland - U.K. route due to a drop in traffic numbers. Increasing overheads per vehicle.. that’s going to add to food imports. " No, what you would see is a fall in the price of the UK - Ireland crossing as companies compete for fewer customers. And why would food prices rise anyway? What do we get from Ireland that we couldn't get from elsewhere? | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? Without trying to explain economics to you, demand drives up prices and competition drives down prices. If there are 150000 trucks going from Ireland to France then many ferry companies will want in on the action this is called competition. Inevitably prices will rise and fall with demand but in general the increased demand for ferries to and from Ireland to continental Europe is likely to drive prices down and offer greater choice both to commercial and leisure traffic. Competition relies on the customers having a few alternatives. If the traditional trip across the UK is either impossible or extremely expensive then the ferry companies can keep charges high knowing the customers don't have a choice We were discussing Ireland to France not sure why your talking about uk but anyway... Because as I say in my post the usual trip across the UK may be impossible or very expensive if other posters are to be believed. So to get goods to the EU the ferry companies have a captive audience with no alternative Plans have already been made and ports upgraded for direct shipments from mainland Europe to Ireland. It was in place last year as all companies supplying critical goods like medical equipment were informed. They have at least got plans in place unlike Boris who appears to be winging it I don't doubt it and did not suggest any such thing. Ferry companies will have a captive audience and charge as they wish if the land bridge is no longer viable. I expect they are very happy with 150000 guaranteed customers I am sure it will be beneficial to both the hauliers and the Ferry companies, the time they will save will also be beneficial Time saved? Definitely good for ferries they can charge as they please With your logic they would have charged what they please to cross to the U.K. yeas ago as they had a captive customer base. didn’t see a non competitive market there. As I said before there’s more than one option so the competition will be there to keep prices sensible for Ireland to Europe ferries. It just has to be cheaper and easier than coming through the U.K. That’s the only ceiling plus a bit more cost for speed and ease of use. What we maybe need to worry about is the prices rising on the Ireland - U.K. route due to a drop in traffic numbers. Increasing overheads per vehicle.. that’s going to add to food imports. No, what you would see is a fall in the price of the UK - Ireland crossing as companies compete for fewer customers. And why would food prices rise anyway? What do we get from Ireland that we couldn't get from elsewhere? " Fewer crossing vehicles will see ferry companies leave the market for the profitable routes. Norfolkline closed their route during the 2008 crisis. The competition was too intense to be profitable. The rest of the companies then put their prices up. We get food from Ireland and if tariffs and ferry price rises come in we can get it from other European countries... oh wait USA chemical shit here we come. | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? Without trying to explain economics to you, demand drives up prices and competition drives down prices. If there are 150000 trucks going from Ireland to France then many ferry companies will want in on the action this is called competition. Inevitably prices will rise and fall with demand but in general the increased demand for ferries to and from Ireland to continental Europe is likely to drive prices down and offer greater choice both to commercial and leisure traffic. Competition relies on the customers having a few alternatives. If the traditional trip across the UK is either impossible or extremely expensive then the ferry companies can keep charges high knowing the customers don't have a choice We were discussing Ireland to France not sure why your talking about uk but anyway... Because as I say in my post the usual trip across the UK may be impossible or very expensive if other posters are to be believed. So to get goods to the EU the ferry companies have a captive audience with no alternative Plans have already been made and ports upgraded for direct shipments from mainland Europe to Ireland. It was in place last year as all companies supplying critical goods like medical equipment were informed. They have at least got plans in place unlike Boris who appears to be winging it I don't doubt it and did not suggest any such thing. Ferry companies will have a captive audience and charge as they wish if the land bridge is no longer viable. I expect they are very happy with 150000 guaranteed customers I am sure it will be beneficial to both the hauliers and the Ferry companies, the time they will save will also be beneficial Time saved? Definitely good for ferries they can charge as they please With your logic they would have charged what they please to cross to the U.K. yeas ago as they had a captive customer base. didn’t see a non competitive market there. As I said before there’s more than one option so the competition will be there to keep prices sensible for Ireland to Europe ferries. It just has to be cheaper and easier than coming through the U.K. That’s the only ceiling plus a bit more cost for speed and ease of use. What we maybe need to worry about is the prices rising on the Ireland - U.K. route due to a drop in traffic numbers. Increasing overheads per vehicle.. that’s going to add to food imports. No, what you would see is a fall in the price of the UK - Ireland crossing as companies compete for fewer customers. And why would food prices rise anyway? What do we get from Ireland that we couldn't get from elsewhere? Fewer crossing vehicles will see ferry companies leave the market for the profitable routes. Norfolkline closed their route during the 2008 crisis. The competition was too intense to be profitable. The rest of the companies then put their prices up. We get food from Ireland and if tariffs and ferry price rises come in we can get it from other European countries... oh wait USA chemical shit here we come. " New Zealand lamb is very nice. And Argentinian beef. Oh and cheaper and that's one hell of a ferry trip | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? Without trying to explain economics to you, demand drives up prices and competition drives down prices. If there are 150000 trucks going from Ireland to France then many ferry companies will want in on the action this is called competition. Inevitably prices will rise and fall with demand but in general the increased demand for ferries to and from Ireland to continental Europe is likely to drive prices down and offer greater choice both to commercial and leisure traffic. Competition relies on the customers having a few alternatives. If the traditional trip across the UK is either impossible or extremely expensive then the ferry companies can keep charges high knowing the customers don't have a choice We were discussing Ireland to France not sure why your talking about uk but anyway... Because as I say in my post the usual trip across the UK may be impossible or very expensive if other posters are to be believed. So to get goods to the EU the ferry companies have a captive audience with no alternative Plans have already been made and ports upgraded for direct shipments from mainland Europe to Ireland. It was in place last year as all companies supplying critical goods like medical equipment were informed. They have at least got plans in place unlike Boris who appears to be winging it I don't doubt it and did not suggest any such thing. Ferry companies will have a captive audience and charge as they wish if the land bridge is no longer viable. I expect they are very happy with 150000 guaranteed customers I am sure it will be beneficial to both the hauliers and the Ferry companies, the time they will save will also be beneficial Time saved? Definitely good for ferries they can charge as they please Yeah, time saved, it will be quicker to get a ferry to France than waiting in a queue for hours " It wont be quicker mate but will be easier. | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? Without trying to explain economics to you, demand drives up prices and competition drives down prices. If there are 150000 trucks going from Ireland to France then many ferry companies will want in on the action this is called competition. Inevitably prices will rise and fall with demand but in general the increased demand for ferries to and from Ireland to continental Europe is likely to drive prices down and offer greater choice both to commercial and leisure traffic. Competition relies on the customers having a few alternatives. If the traditional trip across the UK is either impossible or extremely expensive then the ferry companies can keep charges high knowing the customers don't have a choice We were discussing Ireland to France not sure why your talking about uk but anyway... Because as I say in my post the usual trip across the UK may be impossible or very expensive if other posters are to be believed. So to get goods to the EU the ferry companies have a captive audience with no alternative Plans have already been made and ports upgraded for direct shipments from mainland Europe to Ireland. It was in place last year as all companies supplying critical goods like medical equipment were informed. They have at least got plans in place unlike Boris who appears to be winging it I don't doubt it and did not suggest any such thing. Ferry companies will have a captive audience and charge as they wish if the land bridge is no longer viable. I expect they are very happy with 150000 guaranteed customers I am sure it will be beneficial to both the hauliers and the Ferry companies, the time they will save will also be beneficial Time saved? Definitely good for ferries they can charge as they please With your logic they would have charged what they please to cross to the U.K. yeas ago as they had a captive customer base. didn’t see a non competitive market there. As I said before there’s more than one option so the competition will be there to keep prices sensible for Ireland to Europe ferries. It just has to be cheaper and easier than coming through the U.K. That’s the only ceiling plus a bit more cost for speed and ease of use. What we maybe need to worry about is the prices rising on the Ireland - U.K. route due to a drop in traffic numbers. Increasing overheads per vehicle.. that’s going to add to food imports. No, what you would see is a fall in the price of the UK - Ireland crossing as companies compete for fewer customers. And why would food prices rise anyway? What do we get from Ireland that we couldn't get from elsewhere? Fewer crossing vehicles will see ferry companies leave the market for the profitable routes. Norfolkline closed their route during the 2008 crisis. The competition was too intense to be profitable. The rest of the companies then put their prices up. We get food from Ireland and if tariffs and ferry price rises come in we can get it from other European countries... oh wait USA chemical shit here we come. New Zealand lamb is very nice. And Argentinian beef. Oh and cheaper and that's one hell of a ferry trip "I agree New Zealand lamb is good. Although super chilled to stop it rotting on the way over. Not great eh. Argentinian beef I also though was good until a few weeks ago when I realised the Argentinian beef industry is 90% stock yards like America. 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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? Without trying to explain economics to you, demand drives up prices and competition drives down prices. If there are 150000 trucks going from Ireland to France then many ferry companies will want in on the action this is called competition. Inevitably prices will rise and fall with demand but in general the increased demand for ferries to and from Ireland to continental Europe is likely to drive prices down and offer greater choice both to commercial and leisure traffic. Competition relies on the customers having a few alternatives. If the traditional trip across the UK is either impossible or extremely expensive then the ferry companies can keep charges high knowing the customers don't have a choice We were discussing Ireland to France not sure why your talking about uk but anyway... Because as I say in my post the usual trip across the UK may be impossible or very expensive if other posters are to be believed. So to get goods to the EU the ferry companies have a captive audience with no alternative Plans have already been made and ports upgraded for direct shipments from mainland Europe to Ireland. It was in place last year as all companies supplying critical goods like medical equipment were informed. They have at least got plans in place unlike Boris who appears to be winging it I don't doubt it and did not suggest any such thing. Ferry companies will have a captive audience and charge as they wish if the land bridge is no longer viable. I expect they are very happy with 150000 guaranteed customers I am sure it will be beneficial to both the hauliers and the Ferry companies, the time they will save will also be beneficial Time saved? Definitely good for ferries they can charge as they please Yeah, time saved, it will be quicker to get a ferry to France than waiting in a queue for hours It wont be quicker mate but will be easier." They are building those lorry parks to park a lot of trucks up. I do agree with you if the route was smooth running it’s quicker to go across but not by as much as you think for the trucks due to drivers hours restrictions By Goves own admission the truck delays in the channel will last at least 6 months and probably more. The ferries are looking good value, reliable and swift in comparison. | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? Without trying to explain economics to you, demand drives up prices and competition drives down prices. If there are 150000 trucks going from Ireland to France then many ferry companies will want in on the action this is called competition. Inevitably prices will rise and fall with demand but in general the increased demand for ferries to and from Ireland to continental Europe is likely to drive prices down and offer greater choice both to commercial and leisure traffic. Competition relies on the customers having a few alternatives. If the traditional trip across the UK is either impossible or extremely expensive then the ferry companies can keep charges high knowing the customers don't have a choice We were discussing Ireland to France not sure why your talking about uk but anyway... Because as I say in my post the usual trip across the UK may be impossible or very expensive if other posters are to be believed. So to get goods to the EU the ferry companies have a captive audience with no alternative Plans have already been made and ports upgraded for direct shipments from mainland Europe to Ireland. It was in place last year as all companies supplying critical goods like medical equipment were informed. They have at least got plans in place unlike Boris who appears to be winging it I don't doubt it and did not suggest any such thing. Ferry companies will have a captive audience and charge as they wish if the land bridge is no longer viable. I expect they are very happy with 150000 guaranteed customers I am sure it will be beneficial to both the hauliers and the Ferry companies, the time they will save will also be beneficial Time saved? Definitely good for ferries they can charge as they please Yeah, time saved, it will be quicker to get a ferry to France than waiting in a queue for hours It wont be quicker mate but will be easier. They are building those lorry parks to park a lot of trucks up. I do agree with you if the route was smooth running it’s quicker to go across but not by as much as you think for the trucks due to drivers hours restrictions By Goves own admission the truck delays in the channel will last at least 6 months and probably more. The ferries are looking good value, reliable and swift in comparison. " As i have said several times now i think its great for ireland great for the uk and great for the environment. | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? Without trying to explain economics to you, demand drives up prices and competition drives down prices. If there are 150000 trucks going from Ireland to France then many ferry companies will want in on the action this is called competition. Inevitably prices will rise and fall with demand but in general the increased demand for ferries to and from Ireland to continental Europe is likely to drive prices down and offer greater choice both to commercial and leisure traffic. Competition relies on the customers having a few alternatives. If the traditional trip across the UK is either impossible or extremely expensive then the ferry companies can keep charges high knowing the customers don't have a choice We were discussing Ireland to France not sure why your talking about uk but anyway... Because as I say in my post the usual trip across the UK may be impossible or very expensive if other posters are to be believed. So to get goods to the EU the ferry companies have a captive audience with no alternative Plans have already been made and ports upgraded for direct shipments from mainland Europe to Ireland. It was in place last year as all companies supplying critical goods like medical equipment were informed. They have at least got plans in place unlike Boris who appears to be winging it I don't doubt it and did not suggest any such thing. Ferry companies will have a captive audience and charge as they wish if the land bridge is no longer viable. I expect they are very happy with 150000 guaranteed customers I am sure it will be beneficial to both the hauliers and the Ferry companies, the time they will save will also be beneficial Time saved? Definitely good for ferries they can charge as they please Yeah, time saved, it will be quicker to get a ferry to France than waiting in a queue for hours It wont be quicker mate but will be easier. They are building those lorry parks to park a lot of trucks up. I do agree with you if the route was smooth running it’s quicker to go across but not by as much as you think for the trucks due to drivers hours restrictions By Goves own admission the truck delays in the channel will last at least 6 months and probably more. The ferries are looking good value, reliable and swift in comparison. As i have said several times now i think its great for ireland great for the uk and great for the environment." You have indeed repeated yourself . Whilst I do agree totally with the cleaner for the environment comment . We agree there. I’m yet to understand how it’s great for the U.K. to lose ferry jobs, tax revenue from the trucks less tourists transiting spending money and increased food costs ? You’re understanding of great is I suspect yet again no ones died so it s a great Brexit ! | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? Without trying to explain economics to you, demand drives up prices and competition drives down prices. If there are 150000 trucks going from Ireland to France then many ferry companies will want in on the action this is called competition. Inevitably prices will rise and fall with demand but in general the increased demand for ferries to and from Ireland to continental Europe is likely to drive prices down and offer greater choice both to commercial and leisure traffic. Competition relies on the customers having a few alternatives. If the traditional trip across the UK is either impossible or extremely expensive then the ferry companies can keep charges high knowing the customers don't have a choice We were discussing Ireland to France not sure why your talking about uk but anyway... Because as I say in my post the usual trip across the UK may be impossible or very expensive if other posters are to be believed. So to get goods to the EU the ferry companies have a captive audience with no alternative Plans have already been made and ports upgraded for direct shipments from mainland Europe to Ireland. It was in place last year as all companies supplying critical goods like medical equipment were informed. They have at least got plans in place unlike Boris who appears to be winging it I don't doubt it and did not suggest any such thing. Ferry companies will have a captive audience and charge as they wish if the land bridge is no longer viable. I expect they are very happy with 150000 guaranteed customers I am sure it will be beneficial to both the hauliers and the Ferry companies, the time they will save will also be beneficial Time saved? Definitely good for ferries they can charge as they please Yeah, time saved, it will be quicker to get a ferry to France than waiting in a queue for hours It wont be quicker mate but will be easier. They are building those lorry parks to park a lot of trucks up. I do agree with you if the route was smooth running it’s quicker to go across but not by as much as you think for the trucks due to drivers hours restrictions By Goves own admission the truck delays in the channel will last at least 6 months and probably more. The ferries are looking good value, reliable and swift in comparison. As i have said several times now i think its great for ireland great for the uk and great for the environment. You have indeed repeated yourself . Whilst I do agree totally with the cleaner for the environment comment . We agree there. I’m yet to understand how it’s great for the U.K. to lose ferry jobs, tax revenue from the trucks less tourists transiting spending money and increased food costs ? You’re understanding of great is I suspect yet again no ones died so it s a great Brexit ! " if you actually read about these new ships they commercial not tourist ships, i would think anyone who wants to go to ireland from the continent would usually fly anyway,i cant see a big drop in tourists.Tax on fuel? i would guess most of them fill up before they leave either way as they are on euros both sides what tax revenue is generated is probably counter acted by less road repairs,less strain on emergency services etc.We keep hearing about dearer food but have seen no evidence to back it up. | |||
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"yes i bet the irish will be well pleased they have around150,000 trucks a year pass through the uk on the way to the continent. Another new direct ferry sailing from roslare to dunkirk annouced today, a lot less Irish wagons will be using the landbridge to the continent now, the direct sailing will take approximately 6 to 8 hour's longer but will be eliminating the unknown extra time in queues and traffic jams and of course all the extra paperwork that will be required when entering the EU single market from a third country, Yes i know i read it another brexit benefit 150,000 trucks off the road excelent news. Yep, more lost revenue to be made up in taxes .. Brexit - the tax that keeps on growingI dont know why they didnt do it before takes the strain off the roads so less repairs,less polution i think its a great idea,plus if there are less trucks using dover there will be less disruption.Lets hope the truck drivers that use it are good sailors as its not going to be a smooth crossing most of the year. They didn’t do it before because of cost. Now we have customs it’s cheaper to pay the extra ferry charge. The ferry companies save money too as less spending on the extra infrastructure required. Win win for Ireland for their exports against ours. How do you know what the ferry charge will be? More demand equals higher prices doesn't it? No, more competition lowers prices. What competition? There will be more ferry traffic direct from Ireland to France and beyond thus prices may be more competitive. God knows what will happen in the south of England, in fact he might be the only one that does because the government sure as hell don't and the hauliers sure as hell don't There can only be so many ferries surely? It's funny how air fares go up in the summer as passenger numbers also go up. Why's that? Without trying to explain economics to you, demand drives up prices and competition drives down prices. If there are 150000 trucks going from Ireland to France then many ferry companies will want in on the action this is called competition. Inevitably prices will rise and fall with demand but in general the increased demand for ferries to and from Ireland to continental Europe is likely to drive prices down and offer greater choice both to commercial and leisure traffic. Competition relies on the customers having a few alternatives. If the traditional trip across the UK is either impossible or extremely expensive then the ferry companies can keep charges high knowing the customers don't have a choice We were discussing Ireland to France not sure why your talking about uk but anyway... Because as I say in my post the usual trip across the UK may be impossible or very expensive if other posters are to be believed. So to get goods to the EU the ferry companies have a captive audience with no alternative Plans have already been made and ports upgraded for direct shipments from mainland Europe to Ireland. It was in place last year as all companies supplying critical goods like medical equipment were informed. They have at least got plans in place unlike Boris who appears to be winging it I don't doubt it and did not suggest any such thing. Ferry companies will have a captive audience and charge as they wish if the land bridge is no longer viable. I expect they are very happy with 150000 guaranteed customers I am sure it will be beneficial to both the hauliers and the Ferry companies, the time they will save will also be beneficial Time saved? Definitely good for ferries they can charge as they please Yeah, time saved, it will be quicker to get a ferry to France than waiting in a queue for hours It wont be quicker mate but will be easier. They are building those lorry parks to park a lot of trucks up. I do agree with you if the route was smooth running it’s quicker to go across but not by as much as you think for the trucks due to drivers hours restrictions By Goves own admission the truck delays in the channel will last at least 6 months and probably more. The ferries are looking good value, reliable and swift in comparison. As i have said several times now i think its great for ireland great for the uk and great for the environment. You have indeed repeated yourself . Whilst I do agree totally with the cleaner for the environment comment . We agree there. I’m yet to understand how it’s great for the U.K. to lose ferry jobs, tax revenue from the trucks less tourists transiting spending money and increased food costs ? You’re understanding of great is I suspect yet again no ones died so it s a great Brexit ! if you actually read about these new ships they commercial not tourist ships, i would think anyone who wants to go to ireland from the continent would usually fly anyway,i cant see a big drop in tourists.Tax on fuel? i would guess most of them fill up before they leave either way as they are on euros both sides what tax revenue is generated is probably counter acted by less road repairs,less strain on emergency services etc.We keep hearing about dearer food but have seen no evidence to back it up." Dearer food will happen if no deal was the comment . Ferries move ships around for seasons . There are very few tourists in the winter crossings and the RO-pax ships will be used in the summer season. Irish ferries are mostly RO pax as are Stena . So adjust to tourists in the winter. DFDS have started with a freight only but as it’s a driver accompanied route they will have invested in medically trained staff as they have more than 12 drivers on board . The next step on uplift is Ro pax for tourists. Unless they are offering it as an unaccompanied route which is possible but unlikely on such a route. The super ferries move large amounts of tourists through the U.K. into France Belgium and Holland which are popular destinations for Irish travellers. Yes they do fly also just like us but again look at how many families drive to Europe . It’s a big number especially for cheaper family holidays in french campsites. Yes I would suspect the wear and tear must be destroying our roads along with the billions of journeys U.K. trucks and cars make and the constant call outs to Irish trucks on fire will be horrific. Come on you can do better than that . | |||
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"Sorry I made a mistake I just did some calculations and have to disagree with you on the environment comment Containers from Argentina are 5 times higher in CO2 emissions New Zealand the number is over 10 times as much . Both bad for the environment ! Another win eh. I was actually on about uk air quality
This is actually a valid pro brexit argument.
The shrinking of the UK economy will have the side effect of reducing the amount of CO2 we release into the atmosphere.
As an example the crash in 2007 slowed the rate of increase in the rate of pollution.
Boom. A Brexit benefit."Fuck me he’s got it !!! We owe you pint. I can sleep easy now knowing there is a benefit . | |||
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"Sorry I made a mistake I just did some calculations and have to disagree with you on the environment comment Containers from Argentina are 5 times higher in CO2 emissions New Zealand the number is over 10 times as much . Both bad for the environment ! Another win eh. I was actually on about uk air quality "So the ships arriving don’t polite our air ?? | |||
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"Sorry I made a mistake I just did some calculations and have to disagree with you on the environment comment Containers from Argentina are 5 times higher in CO2 emissions New Zealand the number is over 10 times as much . Both bad for the environment ! Another win eh. I was actually on about uk air quality
So the ships arriving don’t polite our air ??
"No where that of 150,000 lorries driving across the country.I think you are just looking for problems to justify yourself but thats not unusual for remainers.Im happy that ireland has overcome the transport dilemma and backs up my beliefs that businesses will always find a way to do business. | |||
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"Sorry I made a mistake I just did some calculations and have to disagree with you on the environment comment Containers from Argentina are 5 times higher in CO2 emissions New Zealand the number is over 10 times as much . Both bad for the environment ! Another win eh. I was actually on about uk air quality
So the ships arriving don’t polite our air ??
No where that of 150,000 lorries driving across the country.I think you are just looking for problems to justify yourself but thats not unusual for remainers.Im happy that ireland has overcome the transport dilemma and backs up my beliefs that businesses will always find a way to do business. "What about all the uk lorries sitting for days on end with engines running in Kent ? I think that wipes your brexit benefit lol | |||
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"Sorry I made a mistake I just did some calculations and have to disagree with you on the environment comment Containers from Argentina are 5 times higher in CO2 emissions New Zealand the number is over 10 times as much . Both bad for the environment ! Another win eh. I was actually on about uk air quality
So the ships arriving don’t polite our air ??
No where that of 150,000 lorries driving across the country.I think you are just looking for problems to justify yourself but thats not unusual for remainers.Im happy that ireland has overcome the transport dilemma and backs up my beliefs that businesses will always find a way to do business.
What about all the uk lorries sitting for days on end with engines running in Kent ?
I think that wipes your brexit benefit lol"there you go again you do know that they have keys to turn them off? | |||
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"Sorry I made a mistake I just did some calculations and have to disagree with you on the environment comment Containers from Argentina are 5 times higher in CO2 emissions New Zealand the number is over 10 times as much . Both bad for the environment ! Another win eh. I was actually on about uk air quality
So the ships arriving don’t polite our air ??
No where that of 150,000 lorries driving across the country.I think you are just looking for problems to justify yourself but thats not unusual for remainers.Im happy that ireland has overcome the transport dilemma and backs up my beliefs that businesses will always find a way to do business. "Irish business has found a way around our governments fuck up . We unfortunately are still struggling to plan because of our own governments incompetence. We contacted HMRC on Friday yet again on our daily call and yet again still no answer on the full procedures for exports. It’s all manual now as no time for computer systems to be ready. Business finds a way indeed but only if they are still in business . Companies in this country are very weak due to COVID and Brexit may be a step too far for many. The final nail in the coffin. To be in business you have to be an optimist as you gamble every day but usually the government helps you with long term stability. This government have crashed from pillar to post l. Bullshit followed by lies and more lies . | |||
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"Sorry I made a mistake I just did some calculations and have to disagree with you on the environment comment Containers from Argentina are 5 times higher in CO2 emissions New Zealand the number is over 10 times as much . Both bad for the environment ! Another win eh. I was actually on about uk air quality
So the ships arriving don’t polite our air ??
No where that of 150,000 lorries driving across the country.I think you are just looking for problems to justify yourself but thats not unusual for remainers.Im happy that ireland has overcome the transport dilemma and backs up my beliefs that businesses will always find a way to do business.
Irish business has found a way around our governments fuck up .
We unfortunately are still struggling to plan because of our own governments incompetence.
We contacted HMRC on Friday yet again on our daily call and yet again still no answer on the full procedures for exports. It’s all manual now as no time for computer systems to be ready.
Business finds a way indeed but only if they are still in business .
Companies in this country are very weak due to COVID and Brexit may be a step too far for many.
The final nail in the coffin.
To be in business you have to be an optimist as you gamble every day but usually the government helps you with long term stability. This government have crashed from pillar to post l.
Bullshit followed by lies and more lies .
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"Sorry I made a mistake I just did some calculations and have to disagree with you on the environment comment Containers from Argentina are 5 times higher in CO2 emissions New Zealand the number is over 10 times as much . Both bad for the environment ! Another win eh. I was actually on about uk air quality
So the ships arriving don’t polite our air ??
No where that of 150,000 lorries driving across the country.I think you are just looking for problems to justify yourself but thats not unusual for remainers.Im happy that ireland has overcome the transport dilemma and backs up my beliefs that businesses will always find a way to do business.
Irish business has found a way around our governments fuck up .
We unfortunately are still struggling to plan because of our own governments incompetence.
We contacted HMRC on Friday yet again on our daily call and yet again still no answer on the full procedures for exports. It’s all manual now as no time for computer systems to be ready.
Business finds a way indeed but only if they are still in business .
Companies in this country are very weak due to COVID and Brexit may be a step too far for many.
The final nail in the coffin.
To be in business you have to be an optimist as you gamble every day but usually the government helps you with long term stability. This government have crashed from pillar to post l.
Bullshit followed by lies and more lies .
What procedures are you having trouble with, it's all on the gov.uk website."Ha ha yes and that’s what Gove tells you . It’s a load of crap! The helpline gives you an answer up to five days after the question and is usually they don’t know. We know how to export to the rest of the world we don’t have the full procedures for Europe or how to handle the physical paperwork or the transition over January 1st if we require T1 status . The hauliers don’t know full procedures so can’t price it. We could be out by hundreds or Euros per load ! Are you any wiser? No you believe the shit you’re fed from Boris! Gove has no idea what the detail is and Boris wouldn’t have a clue! Food importers association hasn't got the full rules on certification or labelling of imports or exports . We don’t have enough inspectors or vets and still have no rules to replace the EU rules . It’s ok Gove said it’s like moving house ha ha ha If it was we are all going to be homeless so let’s hope not ! FFS it’s a mess. We are as ready as we can be but don’t have the full information. Tariffs and VAT rules haven’t been agreed yet so try and plan that fucking mess in four weeks. We’re opening offices in the EU to offset the added T1 costs. More jobs to the EU in addition to production already moving. Our regular experienced customs brokers are having a nightmare trying to nail down costs . They like us ask every day but don’t get answers. | |||
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"Well tariffs cant be agreed until its known if its deal or no deal, what industry are you in ? " Yes and when you want to sign or renew a contract for 2021 worth a few million you need to know those tariffs in advance of signing otherwise you could be out by hundreds of thousands against your plans and lose your shirt. Never mind suddenly being too expensive compared to competitors in Europe . So guess how many contracts are now “subject to” So no security for business or jobs at all. | |||
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"Sorry I made a mistake I just did some calculations and have to disagree with you on the environment comment Containers from Argentina are 5 times higher in CO2 emissions New Zealand the number is over 10 times as much . Both bad for the environment ! Another win eh. I was actually on about uk air quality
So the ships arriving don’t polite our air ??
No where that of 150,000 lorries driving across the country.I think you are just looking for problems to justify yourself but thats not unusual for remainers.Im happy that ireland has overcome the transport dilemma and backs up my beliefs that businesses will always find a way to do business.
What about all the uk lorries sitting for days on end with engines running in Kent ?
I think that wipes your brexit benefit lol there you go again you do know that they have keys to turn them off?"Have an ounce Turn off refrigerated lorries ? Not your speciality subject m8 Let drivers freeze in their cabs in January ... Yeah it'll harden them up  | |||
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"Well tariffs cant be agreed until its known if its deal or no deal, what industry are you in ? Yes and when you want to sign or renew a contract for 2021 worth a few million you need to know those tariffs in advance of signing otherwise you could be out by hundreds of thousands against your plans and lose your shirt. Never mind suddenly being too expensive compared to competitors in Europe . So guess how many contracts are now “subject to” So no security for business or jobs at all. " Unless you operate in a few sectors tariffs are pretty small and are well known, if you're exporting which is what you are saying you do it is the importer paying the tariffs so not sure why it affects your contracts, | |||
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"Well tariffs cant be agreed until its known if its deal or no deal, what industry are you in ? Yes and when you want to sign or renew a contract for 2021 worth a few million you need to know those tariffs in advance of signing otherwise you could be out by hundreds of thousands against your plans and lose your shirt. Never mind suddenly being too expensive compared to competitors in Europe . So guess how many contracts are now “subject to” So no security for business or jobs at all. Unless you operate in a few sectors tariffs are pretty small and are well known, if you're exporting which is what you are saying you do it is the importer paying the tariffs so not sure why it affects your contracts, " Which business school did you go to ?? Was it shut? The importer is paying the tariffs ha ha . They won’t be paying shit . They can buy without tariffs in the EU We have to suck on any tariffs by discounting or walk away ! | |||
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"Well tariffs cant be agreed until its known if its deal or no deal, what industry are you in ? Yes and when you want to sign or renew a contract for 2021 worth a few million you need to know those tariffs in advance of signing otherwise you could be out by hundreds of thousands against your plans and lose your shirt. Never mind suddenly being too expensive compared to competitors in Europe . So guess how many contracts are now “subject to” So no security for business or jobs at all. Unless you operate in a few sectors tariffs are pretty small and are well known, if you're exporting which is what you are saying you do it is the importer paying the tariffs so not sure why it affects your contracts, Which business school did you go to ?? Was it shut? The importer is paying the tariffs ha ha . They won’t be paying shit . They can buy without tariffs in the EU We have to suck on any tariffs by discounting or walk away ! " So what are the tariffs on the goods your exporting ? | |||
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"Well tariffs cant be agreed until its known if its deal or no deal, what industry are you in ? Yes and when you want to sign or renew a contract for 2021 worth a few million you need to know those tariffs in advance of signing otherwise you could be out by hundreds of thousands against your plans and lose your shirt. Never mind suddenly being too expensive compared to competitors in Europe . So guess how many contracts are now “subject to” So no security for business or jobs at all. Unless you operate in a few sectors tariffs are pretty small and are well known, if you're exporting which is what you are saying you do it is the importer paying the tariffs so not sure why it affects your contracts, Which business school did you go to ?? Was it shut? The importer is paying the tariffs ha ha . They won’t be paying shit . They can buy without tariffs in the EU We have to suck on any tariffs by discounting or walk away ! So what are the tariffs on the goods your exporting ? " A lot,,, and claiming the vat back will also add to cash flow issues. ( we can cope ) You really should read up on this. I suspect you voted leave without a clue as to what was involved. Such a sad reflection of the whole sorry mess. | |||
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"Well tariffs cant be agreed until its known if its deal or no deal, what industry are you in ? Yes and when you want to sign or renew a contract for 2021 worth a few million you need to know those tariffs in advance of signing otherwise you could be out by hundreds of thousands against your plans and lose your shirt. Never mind suddenly being too expensive compared to competitors in Europe . So guess how many contracts are now “subject to” So no security for business or jobs at all. Unless you operate in a few sectors tariffs are pretty small and are well known, if you're exporting which is what you are saying you do it is the importer paying the tariffs so not sure why it affects your contracts, Which business school did you go to ?? Was it shut? The importer is paying the tariffs ha ha . They won’t be paying shit . They can buy without tariffs in the EU We have to suck on any tariffs by discounting or walk away ! So what are the tariffs on the goods your exporting ? A lot,,, and claiming the vat back will also add to cash flow issues. ( we can cope ) You really should read up on this. I suspect you voted leave without a clue as to what was involved. Such a sad reflection of the whole sorry mess. " Explain about the vat | |||
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"Well tariffs cant be agreed until its known if its deal or no deal, what industry are you in ? Yes and when you want to sign or renew a contract for 2021 worth a few million you need to know those tariffs in advance of signing otherwise you could be out by hundreds of thousands against your plans and lose your shirt. Never mind suddenly being too expensive compared to competitors in Europe . So guess how many contracts are now “subject to” So no security for business or jobs at all. Unless you operate in a few sectors tariffs are pretty small and are well known, if you're exporting which is what you are saying you do it is the importer paying the tariffs so not sure why it affects your contracts, Which business school did you go to ?? Was it shut? The importer is paying the tariffs ha ha . They won’t be paying shit . They can buy without tariffs in the EU We have to suck on any tariffs by discounting or walk away ! So what are the tariffs on the goods your exporting ? A lot,,, and claiming the vat back will also add to cash flow issues. ( we can cope ) You really should read up on this. I suspect you voted leave without a clue as to what was involved. Such a sad reflection of the whole sorry mess. Explain about the vat" Look it up you need to learn | |||
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"Well tariffs cant be agreed until its known if its deal or no deal, what industry are you in ? Yes and when you want to sign or renew a contract for 2021 worth a few million you need to know those tariffs in advance of signing otherwise you could be out by hundreds of thousands against your plans and lose your shirt. Never mind suddenly being too expensive compared to competitors in Europe . So guess how many contracts are now “subject to” So no security for business or jobs at all. Unless you operate in a few sectors tariffs are pretty small and are well known, if you're exporting which is what you are saying you do it is the importer paying the tariffs so not sure why it affects your contracts, Which business school did you go to ?? Was it shut? The importer is paying the tariffs ha ha . They won’t be paying shit . They can buy without tariffs in the EU We have to suck on any tariffs by discounting or walk away ! So what are the tariffs on the goods your exporting ? A lot,,, and claiming the vat back will also add to cash flow issues. ( we can cope ) You really should read up on this. I suspect you voted leave without a clue as to what was involved. Such a sad reflection of the whole sorry mess. Explain about the vat Look it up you need to learn " I know about vat and how it will change, it appears you dont, that's why I asked the question and as you wont say what sector you're in it's looking more like you're another troll on this site | |||
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"Well tariffs cant be agreed until its known if its deal or no deal, what industry are you in ? Yes and when you want to sign or renew a contract for 2021 worth a few million you need to know those tariffs in advance of signing otherwise you could be out by hundreds of thousands against your plans and lose your shirt. Never mind suddenly being too expensive compared to competitors in Europe . So guess how many contracts are now “subject to” So no security for business or jobs at all. Unless you operate in a few sectors tariffs are pretty small and are well known, if you're exporting which is what you are saying you do it is the importer paying the tariffs so not sure why it affects your contracts, Which business school did you go to ?? Was it shut? The importer is paying the tariffs ha ha . They won’t be paying shit . They can buy without tariffs in the EU We have to suck on any tariffs by discounting or walk away ! So what are the tariffs on the goods your exporting ? A lot,,, and claiming the vat back will also add to cash flow issues. ( we can cope ) You really should read up on this. I suspect you voted leave without a clue as to what was involved. Such a sad reflection of the whole sorry mess. Explain about the vat Look it up you need to learn I know about vat and how it will change, it appears you dont, that's why I asked the question and as you wont say what sector you're in it's looking more like you're another troll on this site" Oh you’ve done a vat return?? I do know about vat and if you do then you will know if we don’t have free trade with each country there is a risk it will take months for us to recover the vat from each. We had to open an office in Norway as we couldn’t get our vat back for over a year . We pay for products in the EU so you will know how that works too. We need a free trade deal as you will well know if you’re an expert. So not a troll just pissed off with the mess unravelling. | |||
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"Well tariffs cant be agreed until its known if its deal or no deal, what industry are you in ? Yes and when you want to sign or renew a contract for 2021 worth a few million you need to know those tariffs in advance of signing otherwise you could be out by hundreds of thousands against your plans and lose your shirt. Never mind suddenly being too expensive compared to competitors in Europe . So guess how many contracts are now “subject to” So no security for business or jobs at all. Unless you operate in a few sectors tariffs are pretty small and are well known, if you're exporting which is what you are saying you do it is the importer paying the tariffs so not sure why it affects your contracts, Which business school did you go to ?? Was it shut? The importer is paying the tariffs ha ha . They won’t be paying shit . They can buy without tariffs in the EU We have to suck on any tariffs by discounting or walk away ! So what are the tariffs on the goods your exporting ? A lot,,, and claiming the vat back will also add to cash flow issues. ( we can cope ) You really should read up on this. I suspect you voted leave without a clue as to what was involved. Such a sad reflection of the whole sorry mess. Explain about the vat Look it up you need to learn I know about vat and how it will change, it appears you dont, that's why I asked the question and as you wont say what sector you're in it's looking more like you're another troll on this site Oh you’ve done a vat return?? I do know about vat and if you do then you will know if we don’t have free trade with each country there is a risk it will take months for us to recover the vat from each. We had to open an office in Norway as we couldn’t get our vat back for over a year . We pay for products in the EU so you will know how that works too. We need a free trade deal as you will well know if you’re an expert. So not a troll just pissed off with the mess unravelling. " Oh and on the sector point do you really think I’d discuss that on a swinger site be honest! | |||
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"Well tariffs cant be agreed until its known if its deal or no deal, what industry are you in ? Yes and when you want to sign or renew a contract for 2021 worth a few million you need to know those tariffs in advance of signing otherwise you could be out by hundreds of thousands against your plans and lose your shirt. Never mind suddenly being too expensive compared to competitors in Europe . So guess how many contracts are now “subject to” So no security for business or jobs at all. Unless you operate in a few sectors tariffs are pretty small and are well known, if you're exporting which is what you are saying you do it is the importer paying the tariffs so not sure why it affects your contracts, Which business school did you go to ?? Was it shut? The importer is paying the tariffs ha ha . They won’t be paying shit . They can buy without tariffs in the EU We have to suck on any tariffs by discounting or walk away ! So what are the tariffs on the goods your exporting ? A lot,,, and claiming the vat back will also add to cash flow issues. ( we can cope ) You really should read up on this. I suspect you voted leave without a clue as to what was involved. Such a sad reflection of the whole sorry mess. Explain about the vat Look it up you need to learn I know about vat and how it will change, it appears you dont, that's why I asked the question and as you wont say what sector you're in it's looking more like you're another troll on this site Oh you’ve done a vat return?? I do know about vat and if you do then you will know if we don’t have free trade with each country there is a risk it will take months for us to recover the vat from each. We had to open an office in Norway as we couldn’t get our vat back for over a year . We pay for products in the EU so you will know how that works too. We need a free trade deal as you will well know if you’re an expert. So not a troll just pissed off with the mess unravelling. Oh and on the sector point do you really think I’d discuss that on a swinger site be honest! " Saying what sector you're in is hardly giving away state secrets and if you knew about vat you would know under the new rules the government has said exporters wont be charging vat and importers won't have to account for it on import but in their return. Perhaps instead of claiming there is no advice on what is going to happen you actually look at the gov website | |||
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"Well tariffs cant be agreed until its known if its deal or no deal, what industry are you in ? Yes and when you want to sign or renew a contract for 2021 worth a few million you need to know those tariffs in advance of signing otherwise you could be out by hundreds of thousands against your plans and lose your shirt. Never mind suddenly being too expensive compared to competitors in Europe . So guess how many contracts are now “subject to” So no security for business or jobs at all. Unless you operate in a few sectors tariffs are pretty small and are well known, if you're exporting which is what you are saying you do it is the importer paying the tariffs so not sure why it affects your contracts, Which business school did you go to ?? Was it shut? The importer is paying the tariffs ha ha . They won’t be paying shit . They can buy without tariffs in the EU We have to suck on any tariffs by discounting or walk away ! So what are the tariffs on the goods your exporting ? A lot,,, and claiming the vat back will also add to cash flow issues. ( we can cope ) You really should read up on this. I suspect you voted leave without a clue as to what was involved. Such a sad reflection of the whole sorry mess. Explain about the vat Look it up you need to learn I know about vat and how it will change, it appears you dont, that's why I asked the question and as you wont say what sector you're in it's looking more like you're another troll on this site Oh you’ve done a vat return?? I do know about vat and if you do then you will know if we don’t have free trade with each country there is a risk it will take months for us to recover the vat from each. We had to open an office in Norway as we couldn’t get our vat back for over a year . We pay for products in the EU so you will know how that works too. We need a free trade deal as you will well know if you’re an expert. So not a troll just pissed off with the mess unravelling. Oh and on the sector point do you really think I’d discuss that on a swinger site be honest! Saying what sector you're in is hardly giving away state secrets and if you knew about vat you would know under the new rules the government has said exporters wont be charging vat and importers won't have to account for it on import but in their return. Perhaps instead of claiming there is no advice on what is going to happen you actually look at the gov website " So why do I have two senior accountants working on managing it then ? They must be stupid so we’d better sack them. Do they also tell you on that website how long it will take to claim any payments of vat due back from each EU government? The issue isn’t not knowing what vat to pay or not it’s the gauging and coping with returning of funds we are owed and dealing with 17 countries individually. Accounting for it in their return is the easy bit It’s getting the cash back! But you will know that! Btw yes we spend a lot in Europe to help you understand the dilemma. | |||
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"Btw if a deal is done we are hoping this will go away as an issue but it’s not looking great is it. " I think many people, and not just the business community, will be asking serious questions on how we've reached no deal, at such a late hour of this process. | |||
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"As no reply I’ll call it a night. I’ll be off here for a few weeks apart from friends messages. Some personal stuff is taking precedent. It’s been fun and thank you for the sometimes very clever debates. Hope to see you all doing well in the new year. I really do wish all on here a really happy safe and successful future. It’s a weird stressful time for many reasons including COVID but underneath it all I believe 99% of people have good feelings towards others. Good luck everyone. Hope to be back after the new year. Stay safe and take care. Patrick " | |||
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"Btw if a deal is done we are hoping this will go away as an issue but it’s not looking great is it. " I assume what your saying is getting vat refunds on money spent IN the EU not vat on imports, obviously that will change from 1st jan as it wont come via the normal uk vat return, as I dont reclaim vat from spending money IN the EU I don't know the process, but as all claims here are done automatically I don't see why refunds should be delayed once the EU have set up the process, which I assume they have done. | |||
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"https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9000815/Furious-British-expats-blast-EUs-new-post-Brexit-travel-rules.html And people said there were no benefits " "New rules". Lol. | |||
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"Benefit of Brexit getting vaccine first no need for aproval of 27 others we will be ahead of the EU totally. This great benefit is the best ever . Thank god for brexit thank god for Boris" God is responsible for Brexit and Boris! Blimey. | |||
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"https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9000815/Furious-British-expats-blast-EUs-new-post-Brexit-travel-rules.html And people said there were no benefits " An awful lot of brexiteer pensioners will be scouring the family tree to find an Irish relative | |||
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"Benefit of Brexit getting vaccine first no need for aproval of 27 others we will be ahead of the EU totally. This great benefit is the best ever . Thank god for brexit thank god for Boris" Is this the German /US vaccine ? | |||
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"Benefit of Brexit getting vaccine first no need for aproval of 27 others we will be ahead of the EU totally. This great benefit is the best ever . Thank god for brexit thank god for Boris Is this the German /US vaccine ? " | |||
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"Benefit of Brexit getting vaccine first no need for aproval of 27 others we will be ahead of the EU totally. This great benefit is the best ever . Thank god for brexit thank god for Boris Is this the German /US vaccine ? " Yes. And the UK is the first to approve it. Keep up | |||
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"Benefit of Brexit getting vaccine first no need for aproval of 27 others we will be ahead of the EU totally. This great benefit is the best ever . Thank god for brexit thank god for Boris Is this the German /US vaccine ? " Yes it is. Much as I'm an advocate of the vaccine and as I spent most of my life being regulated by them, I have the utmost respect for the MHRA and the fantastic work they do. BUT I can't help thinking that political pressure has been applied to the authorisation of the Covid vaccine. I'm NOT saying it's not safe, I'm not saying it's not effective and I'm not saying I won't take it and I'm certainly not saying it's got micro chips or any other shit, but I'll be glad I'll not be offered it until after it's also been approved by the FDA and the EMA. Just that underlying distrust of Boris and his toerag mates. | |||
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"Benefit of Brexit getting vaccine first no need for aproval of 27 others we will be ahead of the EU totally. This great benefit is the best ever . Thank god for brexit thank god for Boris" Its good for the vacine to be done now, but won't help companies with all the red tape they are going to have to complete now. Brexit has no benefit what's so ever. Just moron Johnson wanting to prove something and his idiotic cabinet. | |||
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"Benefit of Brexit getting vaccine first no need for aproval of 27 others we will be ahead of the EU totally. This great benefit is the best ever . Thank god for brexit thank god for Boris Is this the German /US vaccine ? Yes it is. Much as I'm an advocate of the vaccine and as I spent most of my life being regulated by them, I have the utmost respect for the MHRA and the fantastic work they do. BUT I can't help thinking that political pressure has been applied to the authorisation of the Covid vaccine. I'm NOT saying it's not safe, I'm not saying it's not effective and I'm not saying I won't take it and I'm certainly not saying it's got micro chips or any other shit, but I'll be glad I'll not be offered it until after it's also been approved by the FDA and the EMA. Just that underlying distrust of Boris and his toerag mates." I have to agree, I think it is hilarious that a vaccine developed by a German and American company is somehow seen as a ‘Brexit benefit’ . I suppose they are so desperate for any kind of positive news that they will claim anything | |||
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"Benefit of Brexit getting vaccine first no need for aproval of 27 others we will be ahead of the EU totally. This great benefit is the best ever . Thank god for brexit thank god for Boris Is this the German /US vaccine ? "I wonder where it is being manufactured and stored | |||
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"It is being manufactured in Belgium and Germany, All you guys in the UK take the vaccine first and if ye are all still alive in a couple of months then us people in the EU can safely take the vaccine Big thank you for being our Guinea pigs " | |||
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"It is being manufactured in Belgium and Germany, All you guys in the UK take the vaccine first and if ye are all still alive in a couple of months then us people in the EU can safely take the vaccine Big thank you for being our Guinea pigs " I was just speaking to my friend in dublin he said the exact same thing | |||
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"It is being manufactured in Belgium and Germany, All you guys in the UK take the vaccine first and if ye are all still alive in a couple of months then us people in the EU can safely take the vaccine Big thank you for being our Guinea pigs " Your welcome Britain leads the way again. | |||
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"Benefit of Brexit getting vaccine first no need for aproval of 27 others we will be ahead of the EU totally. This great benefit is the best ever . Thank god for brexit thank god for Boris Is this the German /US vaccine ? Yes it is. Much as I'm an advocate of the vaccine and as I spent most of my life being regulated by them, I have the utmost respect for the MHRA and the fantastic work they do. BUT I can't help thinking that political pressure has been applied to the authorisation of the Covid vaccine. I'm NOT saying it's not safe, I'm not saying it's not effective and I'm not saying I won't take it and I'm certainly not saying it's got micro chips or any other shit, but I'll be glad I'll not be offered it until after it's also been approved by the FDA and the EMA. Just that underlying distrust of Boris and his toerag mates. I have to agree, I think it is hilarious that a vaccine developed by a German and American company is somehow seen as a ‘Brexit benefit’ . I suppose they are so desperate for any kind of positive news that they will claim anything "I don't think they are claiming it was made in the UK but that the UK was quicker to approve it for use. It's good news they got so far so quick. Many said it was impossible | |||
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"It is being manufactured in Belgium and Germany, All you guys in the UK take the vaccine first and if ye are all still alive in a couple of months then us people in the EU can safely take the vaccine Big thank you for being our Guinea pigs Your welcome Britain leads the way again. "Let's hope they can still ship the vaccine from Belgium in January | |||
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Let's hope they can still ship the vaccine from Belgium in January"If not they will fly it in. | |||
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"Benefit of Brexit getting vaccine first no need for aproval of 27 others we will be ahead of the EU totally. This great benefit is the best ever . Thank god for brexit thank god for Boris Is this the German /US vaccine ? Yes it is. Much as I'm an advocate of the vaccine and as I spent most of my life being regulated by them, I have the utmost respect for the MHRA and the fantastic work they do. BUT I can't help thinking that political pressure has been applied to the authorisation of the Covid vaccine. I'm NOT saying it's not safe, I'm not saying it's not effective and I'm not saying I won't take it and I'm certainly not saying it's got micro chips or any other shit, but I'll be glad I'll not be offered it until after it's also been approved by the FDA and the EMA. Just that underlying distrust of Boris and his toerag mates." pathetic the aproval of thios has nothing to do with Boris exept the where asked to do it quick. Time some people grew up | |||
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