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"The french will do not hat they always do when they don’t get their own way, they will try to bully! So this government needs to step up and get the navy involved oh wait we don’t have one
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"Blimey that escalated fast from the fisheries bill to calling for war. | |||
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"The French have just said they will not allow any UK landed fish into the EU market. Fish here will be the New Norm Better start liking Roast Squid & Yorkshire pudding on Sundays " Even if they did the tariffs would price out British caught fish so it doesn't make any difference. British fishing industry is due to be decimated in the event of a no deal scenario. | |||
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"The fisheries bill receives royal assent after 10 months in parliament,this act gives the uk full control of its fishing waters for the 1st time since 1973.I wonder what napoleon sorry macron will make of that. "shame the rights to fish in those waters were sold to the French years ago | |||
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"The French have just said they will not allow any UK landed fish into the EU market. Fish here will be the New Norm Better start liking Roast Squid & Yorkshire pudding on Sundays Even if they did the tariffs would price out British caught fish so it doesn't make any difference. British fishing industry is due to be decimated in the event of a no deal scenario." Why decimated . Cant the people of the uk do what Leavers all told us . Join together & make britain great . Its only 90% more of all fish caught that everyone needs to eat . If Cod & Chips is Friday , Lets do Macherel Mondays Then its just 8 more meals a week For everyone | |||
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"The French have just said they will not allow any UK landed fish into the EU market. Fish here will be the New Norm Better start liking Roast Squid & Yorkshire pudding on Sundays " Thats their problem if they dont want fish plenty of countries will. I'm sure it will open up opportunities for processing plants in our deprived coastal towns and jobs. Belgium stand to lose 42,000 jobs and france around 30,000 But if you actually read the text of the bill it does not stop all eu fishing. | |||
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"The French have just said they will not allow any UK landed fish into the EU market. Fish here will be the New Norm Better start liking Roast Squid & Yorkshire pudding on Sundays Even if they did the tariffs would price out British caught fish so it doesn't make any difference. British fishing industry is due to be decimated in the event of a no deal scenario. Why decimated . Cant the people of the uk do what Leavers all told us . Join together & make britain great . Its only 90% more of all fish caught that everyone needs to eat . If Cod & Chips is Friday , Lets do Macherel Mondays Then its just 8 more meals a week For everyone " Macherel?? | |||
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"The french will do not hat they always do when they don’t get their own way, they will try to bully! So this government needs to step up and get the navy involved oh wait we don’t have one
Well not one of any size
Blimey that escalated fast from the fisheries bill to calling for war."not a call for war at all, but I do remeber the frencg trallers ramming and cutting nets. Thats the french way, if they block bristish fish then we block French wine ect. because thats what they would do | |||
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"The French have just said they will not allow any UK landed fish into the EU market. Fish here will be the New Norm Better start liking Roast Squid & Yorkshire pudding on Sundays Even if they did the tariffs would price out British caught fish so it doesn't make any difference. British fishing industry is due to be decimated in the event of a no deal scenario. Why decimated . Cant the people of the uk do what Leavers all told us . Join together & make britain great . Its only 90% more of all fish caught that everyone needs to eat . If Cod & Chips is Friday , Lets do Macherel Mondays Then its just 8 more meals a week For everyone Macherel??" Spill chucker Eviry tome ! Mackerel  | |||
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"The French have just said they will not allow any UK landed fish into the EU market. Fish here will be the New Norm Better start liking Roast Squid & Yorkshire pudding on Sundays Thats their problem if they dont want fish plenty of countries will. I'm sure it will open up opportunities for processing plants in our deprived coastal towns and jobs. Belgium stand to lose 42,000 jobs and france around 30,000 But if you actually read the text of the bill it does not stop all eu fishing." Why would i read the whole bill I wouldnt read Harrods yearly figures deals etc & As Harrods earns more than the Fishing industry I dont see Why they are moaning . | |||
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"Also note the lack of reporting of this in the mainstream media Funny how the BBC still refuses to report on anything positive regarding Brexit"  and when forced to they can't help but use the word 'despite' | |||
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"Also note the lack of reporting of this in the mainstream media Funny how the BBC still refuses to report on anything positive regarding Brexit" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/czlm5v1zew2t/fishing-industry | |||
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"Also note the lack of reporting of this in the mainstream media Funny how the BBC still refuses to report on anything positive regarding Brexit" They have reported it, but tbh it isn’t really ‘big headline news’ | |||
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"Also note the lack of reporting of this in the mainstream media Funny how the BBC still refuses to report on anything positive regarding Brexit and when forced to they can't help but use the word 'despite' "You can almost hear them choking on their double frap latte at the very mention of it | |||
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"Also note the lack of reporting of this in the mainstream media Funny how the BBC still refuses to report on anything positive regarding Brexit They have reported it, but tbh it isn’t really ‘big headline news’ " True its just another safeguard after brexit just like the internal market bill. | |||
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"Also note the lack of reporting of this in the mainstream media Funny how the BBC still refuses to report on anything positive regarding Brexit https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/czlm5v1zew2t/fishing-industry" BBC Radio Jersey. That's good of them | |||
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"Also note the lack of reporting of this in the mainstream media Funny how the BBC still refuses to report on anything positive regarding Brexit https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/czlm5v1zew2t/fishing-industry BBC Radio Jersey. That's good of them" It isn’t really news though, if it was significant then the BBC and other MSM outlets would be all over it . | |||
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"Also note the lack of reporting of this in the mainstream media Funny how the BBC still refuses to report on anything positive regarding Brexit https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/czlm5v1zew2t/fishing-industry BBC Radio Jersey. That's good of them" BBC.co.uk I was just helping you see this minor piece of news was on the BBC. Nothing more, nothing less. | |||
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"Also note the lack of reporting of this in the mainstream media Funny how the BBC still refuses to report on anything positive regarding Brexit" Maybe they are struggling to find anything? | |||
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"Also note the lack of reporting of this in the mainstream media Funny how the BBC still refuses to report on anything positive regarding Brexit Maybe they are struggling to find anything? "Behave, we all know there is an endless list of positives | |||
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"Also note the lack of reporting of this in the mainstream media Funny how the BBC still refuses to report on anything positive regarding Brexit Maybe they are struggling to find anything? "Nah they are anti gmnt the bbc..I mean look at that stern critic lisa kussenberg. | |||
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"well the positive is that it will keep those pesky eu fishermen out of british waters unless they want to break international law too. "Yeah, that’s true, not sure who will sell out British fish to though ? | |||
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"well the positive is that it will keep those pesky eu fishermen out of british waters unless they want to break international law too.
Yeah, that’s true, not sure who will sell out British fish to though ?"china will have it mate | |||
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"Scary times for UK, bad Brexit and u boys are on yer own, no trade agreement, no landbridge creating millions yearly to the exchequer, no export, no import ...... eat fish and be merry ..... winter / summer hour to be dropped in Europe- UK don’t follow then we not only have a different currency but a different time zone on the island of Ireland lol ..... fun times ahead " You cant see that the eu are selling you down the river because the french want fish, Ireland is the country that needs a deal the most out of all the eu countries. With a no-deal Brexit, Ireland is also the worst affected EU country, predicted to have a 30% reduction in its total food exports (43% of which currently go to the UK). | |||
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"Scary times for UK, bad Brexit and u boys are on yer own, no trade agreement, no landbridge creating millions yearly to the exchequer, no export, no import ...... eat fish and be merry ..... winter / summer hour to be dropped in Europe- UK don’t follow then we not only have a different currency but a different time zone on the island of Ireland lol ..... fun times ahead You cant see that the eu are selling you down the river because the french want fish, Ireland is the country that needs a deal the most out of all the eu countries. With a no-deal Brexit, Ireland is also the worst affected EU country, predicted to have a 30% reduction in its total food exports (43% of which currently go to the UK)." the French won't care what happens to other EU countries just as long as they get there fishing. | |||
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"well the positive is that it will keep those pesky eu fishermen out of british waters unless they want to break international law too. "Think you will find most of the British boats are crewed by Africans and Asians | |||
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"Scary times for UK, bad Brexit and u boys are on yer own, no trade agreement, no landbridge creating millions yearly to the exchequer, no export, no import ...... eat fish and be merry ..... winter / summer hour to be dropped in Europe- UK don’t follow then we not only have a different currency but a different time zone on the island of Ireland lol ..... fun times ahead You cant see that the eu are selling you down the river because the french want fish, Ireland is the country that needs a deal the most out of all the eu countries. With a no-deal Brexit, Ireland is also the worst affected EU country, predicted to have a 30% reduction in its total food exports (43% of which currently go to the UK)." We’ll still buy it it will just cost more . Most McDonald’s burgers are Irish | |||
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"well the positive is that it will keep those pesky eu fishermen out of british waters unless they want to break international law too.
Think you will find most of the British boats are crewed by Africans and Asians "Your point is? i think if they are needed they still will be under the new immigration bill that pritti put forward to the house. | |||
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"Scary times for UK, bad Brexit and u boys are on yer own, no trade agreement, no landbridge creating millions yearly to the exchequer, no export, no import ...... eat fish and be merry ..... winter / summer hour to be dropped in Europe- UK don’t follow then we not only have a different currency but a different time zone on the island of Ireland lol ..... fun times ahead You cant see that the eu are selling you down the river because the french want fish, Ireland is the country that needs a deal the most out of all the eu countries. With a no-deal Brexit, Ireland is also the worst affected EU country, predicted to have a 30% reduction in its total food exports (43% of which currently go to the UK). We’ll still buy it it will just cost more . Most McDonald’s burgers are Irish "Exactly and that works for all not just irish beef im glad you are now getting it. | |||
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"well the positive is that it will keep those pesky eu fishermen out of british waters unless they want to break international law too.
Think you will find most of the British boats are crewed by Africans and Asians Your point is? i think if they are needed they still will be under the new immigration bill that pritti put forward to the house."We aren’t a nation of fisherman and we don’t have the ships to catch what the french catch is the point . So the benefit is there will be less fish traded in the U.K. not brilliant eh. It’s ok more imports from Iceland so same result really. | |||
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"Scary times for UK, bad Brexit and u boys are on yer own, no trade agreement, no landbridge creating millions yearly to the exchequer, no export, no import ...... eat fish and be merry ..... winter / summer hour to be dropped in Europe- UK don’t follow then we not only have a different currency but a different time zone on the island of Ireland lol ..... fun times ahead You cant see that the eu are selling you down the river because the french want fish, Ireland is the country that needs a deal the most out of all the eu countries. With a no-deal Brexit, Ireland is also the worst affected EU country, predicted to have a 30% reduction in its total food exports (43% of which currently go to the UK). We’ll still buy it it will just cost more . Most McDonald’s burgers are Irish Exactly and that works for all not just irish beef im glad you are now getting it. "So food costing us more is good how? | |||
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"well the positive is that it will keep those pesky eu fishermen out of british waters unless they want to break international law too.
Think you will find most of the British boats are crewed by Africans and Asians Your point is? i think if they are needed they still will be under the new immigration bill that pritti put forward to the house.
We aren’t a nation of fisherman and we don’t have the ships to catch what the french catch is the point .
So the benefit is there will be less fish traded in the U.K. not brilliant eh.
It’s ok more imports from Iceland so same result really."
Its surreal isnt it?
Before Brexit you wouldnt even be aware we had a fishing industry?
Now our entire country depends on it
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"well the positive is that it will keep those pesky eu fishermen out of british waters unless they want to break international law too.
Think you will find most of the British boats are crewed by Africans and Asians Your point is? i think if they are needed they still will be under the new immigration bill that pritti put forward to the house.
We aren’t a nation of fisherman and we don’t have the ships to catch what the french catch is the point .
So the benefit is there will be less fish traded in the U.K. not brilliant eh.
It’s ok more imports from Iceland so same result really.
Its surreal isnt it?
Before Brexit you wouldnt even be aware we had a fishing industry?
Now our entire country depends on it
"Only because the french have made such a big deal out of it,if they could except that thing have to change then it wqouldnt be.Wasnt it the eu who said you cannot have the same benefits once you leave? well that works both ways surely. | |||
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"well the positive is that it will keep those pesky eu fishermen out of british waters unless they want to break international law too.
Think you will find most of the British boats are crewed by Africans and Asians Your point is? i think if they are needed they still will be under the new immigration bill that pritti put forward to the house.
We aren’t a nation of fisherman and we don’t have the ships to catch what the french catch is the point .
So the benefit is there will be less fish traded in the U.K. not brilliant eh.
It’s ok more imports from Iceland so same result really.
Its surreal isnt it?
Before Brexit you wouldnt even be aware we had a fishing industry?
Now our entire country depends on it
"We didn’t have much of a fishing industry its more like a cottage industry since we lost access to Iceland’s waters . | |||
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"What is surreal is that anybody thinks from a UK perspective that this is anything to do with fishing " Obviously why we have a thread on here dedicated to it and countless references to it. | |||
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"well the positive is that it will keep those pesky eu fishermen out of british waters unless they want to break international law too.
Think you will find most of the British boats are crewed by Africans and Asians Your point is? i think if they are needed they still will be under the new immigration bill that pritti put forward to the house.
We aren’t a nation of fisherman and we don’t have the ships to catch what the french catch is the point .
So the benefit is there will be less fish traded in the U.K. not brilliant eh.
It’s ok more imports from Iceland so same result really.
Its surreal isnt it?
Before Brexit you wouldnt even be aware we had a fishing industry?
Now our entire country depends on it
We didn’t have much of a fishing industry its more like a cottage industry since we lost access to Iceland’s waters .
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"What is surreal is that anybody thinks from a UK perspective that this is anything to do with fishing Obviously why we have a thread on here dedicated to it and countless references to it." It is a bargaining chip. That's it | |||
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"well the positive is that it will keep those pesky eu fishermen out of british waters unless they want to break international law too.
Think you will find most of the British boats are crewed by Africans and Asians Your point is? i think if they are needed they still will be under the new immigration bill that pritti put forward to the house.
We aren’t a nation of fisherman and we don’t have the ships to catch what the french catch is the point .
So the benefit is there will be less fish traded in the U.K. not brilliant eh.
It’s ok more imports from Iceland so same result really.
Its surreal isnt it?
Before Brexit you wouldnt even be aware we had a fishing industry?
Now our entire country depends on it
We didn’t have much of a fishing industry its more like a cottage industry since we lost access to Iceland’s waters .
Exactly and thats what is going to happen to frances now."They can still catch some as they will be given a quota. Also they have bigger ships and can fish further off our west and north coasts where the cod are now so not sure it will decimate them at all. | |||
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"well the positive is that it will keep those pesky eu fishermen out of british waters unless they want to break international law too.
Think you will find most of the British boats are crewed by Africans and Asians Your point is? i think if they are needed they still will be under the new immigration bill that pritti put forward to the house.
We aren’t a nation of fisherman and we don’t have the ships to catch what the french catch is the point .
So the benefit is there will be less fish traded in the U.K. not brilliant eh.
It’s ok more imports from Iceland so same result really.
Its surreal isnt it?
Before Brexit you wouldnt even be aware we had a fishing industry?
Now our entire country depends on it
We didn’t have much of a fishing industry its more like a cottage industry since we lost access to Iceland’s waters .
Exactly and thats what is going to happen to frances now.
They can still catch some as they will be given a quota. Also they have bigger ships and can fish further off our west and north coasts where the cod are now so not sure it will decimate them at all.
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"So people are comfortable with France having 84% of fishing rights then ?" Where do you get 84-% from?? The reality is whatever the outcome we will have a bigger share than we can catch so it’s not a negative to give even 50% away. We can’t catch the fish anyway so it’s no loss to us. | |||
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"So people are comfortable with France having 84% of fishing rights then ? Where do you get 84-% from?? The reality is whatever the outcome we will have a bigger share than we can catch so it’s not a negative to give even 50% away. We can’t catch the fish anyway so it’s no loss to us. " No we can’t catchy them because the quota is that small it can’t sustain the boats if we still had them. The french want a 25 year deal for the fish at the current rate and have said they will break the law if they don’t get it. Any government who gives into this kind of bullying will have a problem. Maybe we should demand 50% rights to french vineyards  | |||
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"Scary times for UK, bad Brexit and u boys are on yer own, no trade agreement, no landbridge creating millions yearly to the exchequer, no export, no import ...... eat fish and be merry ..... winter / summer hour to be dropped in Europe- UK don’t follow then we not only have a different currency but a different time zone on the island of Ireland lol ..... fun times ahead You cant see that the eu are selling you down the river because the french want fish, Ireland is the country that needs a deal the most out of all the eu countries. With a no-deal Brexit, Ireland is also the worst affected EU country, predicted to have a 30% reduction in its total food exports (43% of which currently go to the UK). We’ll still buy it it will just cost more . Most McDonald’s burgers are Irish Exactly and that works for all not just irish beef im glad you are now getting it.
So food costing us more is good how? "So still not got it i thought you had.  Tariffs work both ways but there are no need for them. | |||
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"So people are comfortable with France having 84% of fishing rights then ? Where do you get 84-% from?? The reality is whatever the outcome we will have a bigger share than we can catch so it’s not a negative to give even 50% away. We can’t catch the fish anyway so it’s no loss to us. No we can’t catchy them because the quota is that small it can’t sustain the boats if we still had them. The french want a 25 year deal for the fish at the current rate and have said they will break the law if they don’t get it. Any government who gives into this kind of bullying will have a problem. Maybe we should demand 50% rights to french vineyards ". Our quota after Brexit will be far bigger than the fleet of inshore and middle waters ships has ever been and the quota far bigger than they have ever been able to catch We’re not growing back to a previous high number fleet it’s just staying the same . The big fleet of old was mostly deep water ships and freezer ships so nothing to do with British waters or quotas . The fleet catches what it can sell for the best money which in the U.K. is mostly shellfish . The fisherman sold their quotas and licences and businesses they weren’t taken off them. . A lot of British people own vineyards or shares of in France so much the same . | |||
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"Scary times for UK, bad Brexit and u boys are on yer own, no trade agreement, no landbridge creating millions yearly to the exchequer, no export, no import ...... eat fish and be merry ..... winter / summer hour to be dropped in Europe- UK don’t follow then we not only have a different currency but a different time zone on the island of Ireland lol ..... fun times ahead You cant see that the eu are selling you down the river because the french want fish, Ireland is the country that needs a deal the most out of all the eu countries. With a no-deal Brexit, Ireland is also the worst affected EU country, predicted to have a 30% reduction in its total food exports (43% of which currently go to the UK). We’ll still buy it it will just cost more . Most McDonald’s burgers are Irish Exactly and that works for all not just irish beef im glad you are now getting it.
So food costing us more is good how? So still not got it i thought you had. Tariffs work both ways but there are no need for them. "We need to import the food they sell they won’t be paying more we will. Our biggest export to them is oil which they can spot trade in the EU Now with direct links to the EU they can import less from us for foodstuffs electrical etc. And source direct from the EU. Avoiding tariffs. Where do we go to buy our stuff? We have to pay the tariffs as no choice. The Irish are going to be better off and gain more as we lose . | |||
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"On some threads we are told we will have more fish than we can possibly eat if we don't give in and on others we can't catch enough fish as the fleets to small so need to import. Which is it?" Our fleet catches our quota and will not grow enough to catch all our waters fish by a long way. It makes sense to allow quotas for other countries so we can at least trade and process the fish here. | |||
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"So people are comfortable with France having 84% of fishing rights then ? Where do you get 84-% from?? The reality is whatever the outcome we will have a bigger share than we can catch so it’s not a negative to give even 50% away. We can’t catch the fish anyway so it’s no loss to us. No we can’t catchy them because the quota is that small it can’t sustain the boats if we still had them. The french want a 25 year deal for the fish at the current rate and have said they will break the law if they don’t get it. Any government who gives into this kind of bullying will have a problem. Maybe we should demand 50% rights to french vineyards
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Our quota after Brexit will be far bigger than the fleet of inshore and middle waters ships has ever been and the quota far bigger than they have ever been able to catch We’re not growing back to a previous high number fleet it’s just staying the same .
The big fleet of old was mostly deep water ships and freezer ships so nothing to do with British waters or quotas .
The fleet catches what it can sell for the best money which in the U.K. is mostly shellfish .
The fisherman sold their quotas and licences and businesses they weren’t taken off them. . A lot of British people own vineyards or shares of in France so much the same . "You cannot compare fishing with vineyards in france Lots of people own shares in french power or car companies too,this conversation is going ridiculous now. | |||
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"On some threads we are told we will have more fish than we can possibly eat if we don't give in and on others we can't catch enough fish as the fleets to small so need to import. Which is it? Our fleet catches our quota and will not grow enough to catch all our waters fish by a long way. It makes sense to allow quotas for other countries so we can at least trade and process the fish here. " So no shortage of fish in the UK then. | |||
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"On some threads we are told we will have more fish than we can possibly eat if we don't give in and on others we can't catch enough fish as the fleets to small so need to import. Which is it? Our fleet catches our quota and will not grow enough to catch all our waters fish by a long way. It makes sense to allow quotas for other countries so we can at least trade and process the fish here. " Isnt that something that was put to the eu but rejected. Fishing for Leave wants to change the rules so all British fishing vessels must be "60% British-owned; 60% British-crewed; (and must) land, process and sell 60% of their catches in Britain". | |||
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"So people are comfortable with France having 84% of fishing rights then ? Where do you get 84-% from?? The reality is whatever the outcome we will have a bigger share than we can catch so it’s not a negative to give even 50% away. We can’t catch the fish anyway so it’s no loss to us. No we can’t catchy them because the quota is that small it can’t sustain the boats if we still had them. The french want a 25 year deal for the fish at the current rate and have said they will break the law if they don’t get it. Any government who gives into this kind of bullying will have a problem. Maybe we should demand 50% rights to french vineyards
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Our quota after Brexit will be far bigger than the fleet of inshore and middle waters ships has ever been and the quota far bigger than they have ever been able to catch We’re not growing back to a previous high number fleet it’s just staying the same .
The big fleet of old was mostly deep water ships and freezer ships so nothing to do with British waters or quotas .
The fleet catches what it can sell for the best money which in the U.K. is mostly shellfish .
The fisherman sold their quotas and licences and businesses they weren’t taken off them. . A lot of British people own vineyards or shares of in France so much the same . You cannot compare fishing with vineyards in france Lots of people own shares in french power or car companies too,this conversation is going ridiculous now."Speak to lovebis not me | |||
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"On some threads we are told we will have more fish than we can possibly eat if we don't give in and on others we can't catch enough fish as the fleets to small so need to import. Which is it? Our fleet catches our quota and will not grow enough to catch all our waters fish by a long way. It makes sense to allow quotas for other countries so we can at least trade and process the fish here. So no shortage of fish in the UK then." No just more pricey imports of some types we import . | |||
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"On some threads we are told we will have more fish than we can possibly eat if we don't give in and on others we can't catch enough fish as the fleets to small so need to import. Which is it? Our fleet catches our quota and will not grow enough to catch all our waters fish by a long way. It makes sense to allow quotas for other countries so we can at least trade and process the fish here. Isnt that something that was put to the eu but rejected. Fishing for Leave wants to change the rules so all British fishing vessels must be "60% British-owned; 60% British-crewed; (and must) land, process and sell 60% of their catches in Britain"." I’m not sure as don’t have any access to the offers . But suspect they are arguing over amounts and length of term on the quotas not the principle of them. Yes and the manager of the Lowestoft fish market said we have lost all our fishing industry to Europe. From why I know Lowestoft fish market is the same size it walkways been. Small ! Fish sales in the U.K. dropped donkeys years ago so fisherman didn’t catch as much and went into the oil business. That’s nothing to do with the EU. | |||
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"On some threads we are told we will have more fish than we can possibly eat if we don't give in and on others we can't catch enough fish as the fleets to small so need to import. Which is it? Our fleet catches our quota and will not grow enough to catch all our waters fish by a long way. It makes sense to allow quotas for other countries so we can at least trade and process the fish here. Isnt that something that was put to the eu but rejected. Fishing for Leave wants to change the rules so all British fishing vessels must be "60% British-owned; 60% British-crewed; (and must) land, process and sell 60% of their catches in Britain". I’m not sure as don’t have any access to the offers . But suspect they are arguing over amounts and length of term on the quotas not the principle of them. Yes and the manager of the Lowestoft fish market said we have lost all our fishing industry to Europe. From why I know Lowestoft fish market is the same size it walkways been. Small ! Fish sales in the U.K. dropped donkeys years ago so fisherman didn’t catch as much and went into the oil business. That’s nothing to do with the EU. " Thats where you are wrong lowerstoft and great yarmouth used to have very large fishing fleets. | |||
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"On some threads we are told we will have more fish than we can possibly eat if we don't give in and on othersy we can't catch enough fish as the fleets to small so need to import. Which is it? Our fleet catches our quota and will not grow enough to catch all our waters fish by a long way. It makes sense to allow quotas for other countries so we can at least trade and process the fish here. Isnt that something that was put to the eu but rejected. Fishing for Leave wants to change the rules so all British fishing vessels must be "60% British-owned; 60% British-crewed; (and must) land, process and sell 60% of their catches in Britain". I’m not sure as don’t have any access to the offers . But suspect they are arguing over amounts and length of term on the quotas not the principle of them. Yes and the manager of the Lowestoft fish market said we have lost all our fishing industry to Europe. From why I know Lowestoft fish market is the same size it walkways been. Small ! Fish sales in the U.K. dropped donkeys years ago so fisherman didn’t catch as much and went into the oil business. That’s nothing to do with the EU. Thats where you are wrong lowerstoft and great yarmouth used to have very large fishing fleets." Bollocks they were inshore and middle water boats. And it was market town scale. Grimsby and Hull had what’s called large fishing fleets and markets with multiple train loads of fish being sent out from the markets daily. Boston Putfords based in Lowestoft was an example of the middle and near water ships being converted to offshore support as there was a better living to be made . No one stopped those ships fishing they just couldn’t make a profit due to low prices and high fuel costs . The ships in Lowestoft were smaller in size and actually would have been successful now the price of fish is higher. A family member was the captain on one of those ships so I do know a little | |||
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"On some threads we are told we will have more fish than we can possibly eat if we don't give in and on othersy we can't catch enough fish as the fleets to small so need to import. Which is it? Our fleet catches our quota and will not grow enough to catch all our waters fish by a long way. It makes sense to allow quotas for other countries so we can at least trade and process the fish here. Isnt that something that was put to the eu but rejected. Fishing for Leave wants to change the rules so all British fishing vessels must be "60% British-owned; 60% British-crewed; (and must) land, process and sell 60% of their catches in Britain". I’m not sure as don’t have any access to the offers . But suspect they are arguing over amounts and length of term on the quotas not the principle of them. Yes and the manager of the Lowestoft fish market said we have lost all our fishing industry to Europe. From why I know Lowestoft fish market is the same size it walkways been. Small ! Fish sales in the U.K. dropped donkeys years ago so fisherman didn’t catch as much and went into the oil business. That’s nothing to do with the EU. Thats where you are wrong lowerstoft and great yarmouth used to have very large fishing fleets. Bollocks they were inshore and middle water boats. And it was market town scale. Grimsby and Hull had what’s called large fishing fleets and markets with multiple train loads of fish being sent out from the markets daily. Boston Putfords based in Lowestoft was an example of the middle and near water ships being converted to offshore support as there was a better living to be made . No one stopped those ships fishing they just couldn’t make a profit due to low prices and high fuel costs . The ships in Lowestoft were smaller in size and actually would have been successful now the price of fish is higher. A family member was the captain on one of those ships so I do know a little "Yes they were mainly herring fishing boats but to say there wasnt a large fleet its you who is talking bollocks and there were loads of smoke houses along the key at yarmouth that all went out of business too. | |||
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"Just thought I’d make a comment to clear something up on our historic fishing. The U.K. did have a huge fishing fleets with hundreds of large ships based mostly in Grimsby and Hull. (1000 ships at one point) They had crews of between 15 and 30 guys so bigger than the ones fishing from around the small U.K. ports today. These fleets collapsed when we had the cod war with Iceland . The sad thing is we would still have them if our government hadn’t been so ignorant and stupid. Roy Hattersley turned down the annual quota offer from Iceland saying it wasn’t enough. So Iceland said ok fuck off and get nothing . The most laughable and sad thing is that the U.K. fishing fleet couldn’t physically catch what was offered in a year Hard working men lost everything because of the incompetence of our own government. Grimsby and Hull were devastated with tens of thousand of fisherman and engineers support staff etc on land being out of our work overnight. Nothing to do with the EU but maybe it will make a few memories of where fishing fleets went a bit clearer. That fish we used to catch off Iceland now arrives by container into Grimsby for processing and onward sales. " well i agree that it was the government that fucked it because the quota was based on historic fishing and the uk was fishing more off of iceland.So when the quotas were dished out we were fucked as we were kicked out of iceland so had more history there than our own waters.Iceland managed to do it without to much fuss and i cant see why the uk cant too. | |||
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"It’s just so great that Brexit has proven to be as easy as all the fibbers said, sorry Brexiteers "I dont think anyone really thought that it would be easy to unravel 50 years of the same rules but lets face it if it wasnt happening we would only have covid to chat about. | |||
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"It’s just so great that Brexit has proven to be as easy as all the fibbers said, sorry Brexiteers I dont think anyone really thought that it would be easy to unravel 50 years of the same rules but lets face it if it wasnt happening we would only have covid to chat about. "Isn’t it so depressing, nothing uplifting to talk about & no wild sex to have - by wild I mean more than mf! | |||
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"It’s just so great that Brexit has proven to be as easy as all the fibbers said, sorry Brexiteers I dont think anyone really thought that it would be easy to unravel 50 years of the same rules but lets face it if it wasnt happening we would only have covid to chat about.
Isn’t it so depressing, nothing uplifting to talk about & no wild sex to have - by wild I mean more than mf! "yep thats 2020 for you but hopefully we will be in a better place in another few months. Stay positive it could be worse you could be single like me. | |||
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"On some threads we are told we will have more fish than we can possibly eat if we don't give in and on othersy we can't catch enough fish as the fleets to small so need to import. Which is it? Our fleet catches our quota and will not grow enough to catch all our waters fish by a long way. It makes sense to allow quotas for other countries so we can at least trade and process the fish here. Isnt that something that was put to the eu but rejected. Fishing for Leave wants to change the rules so all British fishing vessels must be "60% British-owned; 60% British-crewed; (and must) land, process and sell 60% of their catches in Britain". I’m not sure as don’t have any access to the offers . But suspect they are arguing over amounts and length of term on the quotas not the principle of them. Yes and the manager of the Lowestoft fish market said we have lost all our fishing industry to Europe. From why I know Lowestoft fish market is the same size it walkways been. Small ! Fish sales in the U.K. dropped donkeys years ago so fisherman didn’t catch as much and went into the oil business. That’s nothing to do with the EU. Thats where you are wrong lowerstoft and great yarmouth used to have very large fishing fleets. Bollocks they were inshore and middle water boats. And it was market town scale. Grimsby and Hull had what’s called large fishing fleets and markets with multiple train loads of fish being sent out from the markets daily. Boston Putfords based in Lowestoft was an example of the middle and near water ships being converted to offshore support as there was a better living to be made . No one stopped those ships fishing they just couldn’t make a profit due to low prices and high fuel costs . The ships in Lowestoft were smaller in size and actually would have been successful now the price of fish is higher. A family member was the captain on one of those ships so I do know a little Yes they were mainly herring fishing boats but to say there wasnt a large fleet its you who is talking bollocks and there were loads of smoke houses along the key at yarmouth that all went out of business too."It did employ a lot of people I agree . The fact is we ate a lot of fish then and exported to Russia etc which was Great Yarmouth hey day. Just checking my history on Yarmouth and Lowestoft That 1913 bonanza – the best year on record – was enough to lull anyone into a false sense of security. Great Yarmouth hosted 264 English boats and 742 Scottish vessels, landing more than 824,000 crans. Lowestoft had 350 English boats and 420 Scottish, bringing home almost 535,000 crans. So 1800 landings of ships not all based there . Grimsby had close on a thousand ships in total at the time they are talking about actually based in the port landing every two to three weeks plus had visitors like Yarmouth. It’s a matter of scale. I suspect all the figures are romantically exaggerated but they did employ a lot of people in Yarmouth as we used to eat a lot of fish. Below is what happened to Yarmouth and Lowestoft. Herring fleets. Demand for that fish began to fall, affected by instability in Europe and the collapse of markets such as Russia and Germany. Coupled with the recession of the 1930s, it saw Yarmouth’s fleet fall to 87 drifters and 17 drifter/trawlers. In 1966, at Lowestoft, Small & Co phased out herring-catching. “The remnants of the drifter fleet made one final attempt in 1970, when only five Scots boats fished off the East Anglian coast. All they landed was sixty crans. King Herring was no more.” The town’s remaining drifters were either sold or converted to trawling, “but the North Sea is not very deep and trawling did nothing to help the situation. In fact it made it worse. Lessons had not been learnt by the loss of the herring”. Like the ships based in Hull and Grimsby the North Sea was not for the trawlers. It’s too shallow. As I said what was left was converted to the offshore industry. Btw I haven’t taken any notice of the small three man crew inshore boats and have no idea how many of those we have today. In the 70s and 80s we didn’t invest in modern fleets like Europe and our fishing grounds depleted so being inefficient and poorly invested in our fleets continued to dwindle. We keep blaming the Europeans but the North Sea had been fished to death by us the Dutch and the French without a care for the future. It’s getting better now but will take forever to re over if indeed it can. | |||
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"Just thought I’d make a comment to clear something up on our historic fishing. The U.K. did have a huge fishing fleets with hundreds of large ships based mostly in Grimsby and Hull. (1000 ships at one point) They had crews of between 15 and 30 guys so bigger than the ones fishing from around the small U.K. ports today. These fleets collapsed when we had the cod war with Iceland . The sad thing is we would still have them if our government hadn’t been so ignorant and stupid. Roy Hattersley turned down the annual quota offer from Iceland saying it wasn’t enough. So Iceland said ok fuck off and get nothing . The most laughable and sad thing is that the U.K. fishing fleet couldn’t physically catch what was offered in a year Hard working men lost everything because of the incompetence of our own government. Grimsby and Hull were devastated with tens of thousand of fisherman and engineers support staff etc on land being out of our work overnight. Nothing to do with the EU but maybe it will make a few memories of where fishing fleets went a bit clearer. That fish we used to catch off Iceland now arrives by container into Grimsby for processing and onward sales. well i agree that it was the government that fucked it because the quota was based on historic fishing and the uk was fishing more off of iceland.So when the quotas were dished out we were fucked as we were kicked out of iceland so had more history there than our own waters.Iceland managed to do it without to much fuss and i cant see why the uk cant too. " Iceland could catch the fish we stopped catching . We don’t have the fleet and won’t invest in the long term as we never ever do. It’s not a desired career which is why we have so many immigrants working on the boats. | |||
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"It’s just so great that Brexit has proven to be as easy as all the fibbers said, sorry Brexiteers I dont think anyone really thought that it would be easy to unravel 50 years of the same rules but lets face it if it wasnt happening we would only have covid to chat about.
Isn’t it so depressing, nothing uplifting to talk about & no wild sex to have - by wild I mean more than mf! yep thats 2020 for you but hopefully we will be in a better place in another few months. Stay positive it could be worse you could be single like me. "Judging by your verifications you were doing bloody fine before lock down!
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"Just thought I’d make a comment to clear something up on our historic fishing. The U.K. did have a huge fishing fleets with hundreds of large ships based mostly in Grimsby and Hull. (1000 ships at one point) They had crews of between 15 and 30 guys so bigger than the ones fishing from around the small U.K. ports today. These fleets collapsed when we had the cod war with Iceland . The sad thing is we would still have them if our government hadn’t been so ignorant and stupid. Roy Hattersley turned down the annual quota offer from Iceland saying it wasn’t enough. So Iceland said ok fuck off and get nothing . The most laughable and sad thing is that the U.K. fishing fleet couldn’t physically catch what was offered in a year Hard working men lost everything because of the incompetence of our own government. Grimsby and Hull were devastated with tens of thousand of fisherman and engineers support staff etc on land being out of our work overnight. Nothing to do with the EU but maybe it will make a few memories of where fishing fleets went a bit clearer. That fish we used to catch off Iceland now arrives by container into Grimsby for processing and onward sales. well i agree that it was the government that fucked it because the quota was based on historic fishing and the uk was fishing more off of iceland.So when the quotas were dished out we were fucked as we were kicked out of iceland so had more history there than our own waters.Iceland managed to do it without to much fuss and i cant see why the uk cant too. Iceland could catch the fish we stopped catching . We don’t have the fleet and won’t invest in the long term as we never ever do. It’s not a desired career which is why we have so many immigrants working on the boats. " If its worth investing in business will and if good money is there to earn it will become a desired career . | |||
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"Just thought I’d make a comment to clear something up on our historic fishing. The U.K. did have a huge fishing fleets with hundreds of large ships based mostly in Grimsby and Hull. (1000 ships at one point) They had crews of between 15 and 30 guys so bigger than the ones fishing from around the small U.K. ports today. These fleets collapsed when we had the cod war with Iceland . The sad thing is we would still have them if our government hadn’t been so ignorant and stupid. Roy Hattersley turned down the annual quota offer from Iceland saying it wasn’t enough. So Iceland said ok fuck off and get nothing . The most laughable and sad thing is that the U.K. fishing fleet couldn’t physically catch what was offered in a year Hard working men lost everything because of the incompetence of our own government. Grimsby and Hull were devastated with tens of thousand of fisherman and engineers support staff etc on land being out of our work overnight. Nothing to do with the EU but maybe it will make a few memories of where fishing fleets went a bit clearer. That fish we used to catch off Iceland now arrives by container into Grimsby for processing and onward sales. well i agree that it was the government that fucked it because the quota was based on historic fishing and the uk was fishing more off of iceland.So when the quotas were dished out we were fucked as we were kicked out of iceland so had more history there than our own waters.Iceland managed to do it without to much fuss and i cant see why the uk cant too. Iceland could catch the fish we stopped catching . We don’t have the fleet and won’t invest in the long term as we never ever do. It’s not a desired career which is why we have so many immigrants working on the boats. If its worth investing in business will and if good money is there to earn it will become a desired career ." You would think so . The skippers who do well are multi millionaires but 70-80% fail and go bust eventually. It’s a risky life . It’s more of a skill than people think. The factory ships feed off the regular shoals such as herring and are predictable but cod haddock etc have to be hunted . | |||
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"Just thought I’d make a comment to clear something up on our historic fishing. The U.K. did have a huge fishing fleets with hundreds of large ships based mostly in Grimsby and Hull. (1000 ships at one point) They had crews of between 15 and 30 guys so bigger than the ones fishing from around the small U.K. ports today. These fleets collapsed when we had the cod war with Iceland . The sad thing is we would still have them if our government hadn’t been so ignorant and stupid. Roy Hattersley turned down the annual quota offer from Iceland saying it wasn’t enough. So Iceland said ok fuck off and get nothing . The most laughable and sad thing is that the U.K. fishing fleet couldn’t physically catch what was offered in a year Hard working men lost everything because of the incompetence of our own government. Grimsby and Hull were devastated with tens of thousand of fisherman and engineers support staff etc on land being out of our work overnight. Nothing to do with the EU but maybe it will make a few memories of where fishing fleets went a bit clearer. That fish we used to catch off Iceland now arrives by container into Grimsby for processing and onward sales. well i agree that it was the government that fucked it because the quota was based on historic fishing and the uk was fishing more off of iceland.So when the quotas were dished out we were fucked as we were kicked out of iceland so had more history there than our own waters.Iceland managed to do it without to much fuss and i cant see why the uk cant too. Iceland could catch the fish we stopped catching . We don’t have the fleet and won’t invest in the long term as we never ever do. It’s not a desired career which is why we have so many immigrants working on the boats. If its worth investing in business will and if good money is there to earn it will become a desired career . You would think so . The skippers who do well are multi millionaires but 70-80% fail and go bust eventually. It’s a risky life . It’s more of a skill than people think. The factory ships feed off the regular shoals such as herring and are predictable but cod haddock etc have to be hunted . " we forget how brave these guys are salt of the earth every one of them | |||
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"There is a good series on the BBC iplayer you can watch called Cornwall: This Fishing Life Obviously not the big deep sea fishing boats you have talked about but gives a good insight why UK fishermen voted for Brexit. Also in one episode you see a UK ship surrounded by French, Spanish and Norwegian fishing vessels off the coast of Cornwall. Plus the UK vessels having to throw different types of fish back into the sea because they have their quota but the foreign ships which are bigger are allowed to keep all their fish." The quota system inside or outside the EU is just a load of tosh. Quotas kill fish that are thrown back. Just wasteful but even worse no real strong conservation. There is one simple answer which fishermen resist. Fishing should be banned completely for the two months of the breeding season. Yes no fish being caught apart from fish farms . Every time a pregnant fish is caught hundreds of live eggs are lost . The fisherman say there’s plenty left but do you ever see a farmer take a pregnant cow to the market ? There’s only one or two calves there . The fish would stand a chance to breed and grow in numbers without the constant attacks. It’s simple but constantly rejected because of greed today. No thought for the future . Fishermen are their own worst enemy. | |||
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"There is a good series on the BBC iplayer you can watch called Cornwall: This Fishing Life Obviously not the big deep sea fishing boats you have talked about but gives a good insight why UK fishermen voted for Brexit. Also in one episode you see a UK ship surrounded by French, Spanish and Norwegian fishing vessels off the coast of Cornwall. Plus the UK vessels having to throw different types of fish back into the sea because they have their quota but the foreign ships which are bigger are allowed to keep all their fish. The quota system inside or outside the EU is just a load of tosh. Quotas kill fish that are thrown back. Just wasteful but even worse no real strong conservation. There is one simple answer which fishermen resist. Fishing should be banned completely for the two months of the breeding season. Yes no fish being caught apart from fish farms . Every time a pregnant fish is caught hundreds of live eggs are lost . The fisherman say there’s plenty left but do you ever see a farmer take a pregnant cow to the market ? There’s only one or two calves there . The fish would stand a chance to breed and grow in numbers without the constant attacks. It’s simple but constantly rejected because of greed today. No thought for the future . Fishermen are their own worst enemy. " Have a watch its very interesting. The fishermen tag their catch so customers know which ship catch the fish and what method. They also showed an oyster farm on the program but customers preferred the real thing. There was also a fish survey ship checking stock levels which were high and fish stocks getting bigger. I thought the biggest problem was although not aiming to catch a type of fish they do end up in the nets. But rather than being able to sell it and get a bit of money the fish has to be thrown back alive or dead. That's a total waste and disgrace. | |||
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"There is a good series on the BBC iplayer you can watch called Cornwall: This Fishing Life Obviously not the big deep sea fishing boats you have talked about but gives a good insight why UK fishermen voted for Brexit. Also in one episode you see a UK ship surrounded by French, Spanish and Norwegian fishing vessels off the coast of Cornwall. Plus the UK vessels having to throw different types of fish back into the sea because they have their quota but the foreign ships which are bigger are allowed to keep all their fish. The quota system inside or outside the EU is just a load of tosh. Quotas kill fish that are thrown back. Just wasteful but even worse no real strong conservation. There is one simple answer which fishermen resist. Fishing should be banned completely for the two months of the breeding season. Yes no fish being caught apart from fish farms . Every time a pregnant fish is caught hundreds of live eggs are lost . The fisherman say there’s plenty left but do you ever see a farmer take a pregnant cow to the market ? There’s only one or two calves there . The fish would stand a chance to breed and grow in numbers without the constant attacks. It’s simple but constantly rejected because of greed today. No thought for the future . Fishermen are their own worst enemy. Have a watch its very interesting. The fishermen tag their catch so customers know which ship catch the fish and what method. They also showed an oyster farm on the program but customers preferred the real thing. There was also a fish survey ship checking stock levels which were high and fish stocks getting bigger. I thought the biggest problem was although not aiming to catch a type of fish they do end up in the nets. But rather than being able to sell it and get a bit of money the fish has to be thrown back alive or dead. That's a total waste and disgrace. " The ones that are alive grow to be caught again and the ones that are dead are food for other fish, no waste  | |||
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"There is a good series on the BBC iplayer you can watch called Cornwall: This Fishing Life Obviously not the big deep sea fishing boats you have talked about but gives a good insight why UK fishermen voted for Brexit. Also in one episode you see a UK ship surrounded by French, Spanish and Norwegian fishing vessels off the coast of Cornwall. Plus the UK vessels having to throw different types of fish back into the sea because they have their quota but the foreign ships which are bigger are allowed to keep all their fish. The quota system inside or outside the EU is just a load of tosh. Quotas kill fish that are thrown back. Just wasteful but even worse no real strong conservation. There is one simple answer which fishermen resist. Fishing should be banned completely for the two months of the breeding season. Yes no fish being caught apart from fish farms . Every time a pregnant fish is caught hundreds of live eggs are lost . The fisherman say there’s plenty left but do you ever see a farmer take a pregnant cow to the market ? There’s only one or two calves there . The fish would stand a chance to breed and grow in numbers without the constant attacks. It’s simple but constantly rejected because of greed today. No thought for the future . Fishermen are their own worst enemy. Have a watch its very interesting. The fishermen tag their catch so customers know which ship catch the fish and what method. They also showed an oyster farm on the program but customers preferred the real thing. There was also a fish survey ship checking stock levels which were high and fish stocks getting bigger. I thought the biggest problem was although not aiming to catch a type of fish they do end up in the nets. But rather than being able to sell it and get a bit of money the fish has to be thrown back alive or dead. That's a total waste and disgrace. The ones that are alive grow to be caught again and the ones that are dead are food for other fish, no waste "they are all dead when they go back in.seagull food. | |||
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"There is a good series on the BBC iplayer you can watch called Cornwall: This Fishing Life Obviously not the big deep sea fishing boats you have talked about but gives a good insight why UK fishermen voted for Brexit. Also in one episode you see a UK ship surrounded by French, Spanish and Norwegian fishing vessels off the coast of Cornwall. Plus the UK vessels having to throw different types of fish back into the sea because they have their quota but the foreign ships which are bigger are allowed to keep all their fish. The quota system inside or outside the EU is just a load of tosh. Quotas kill fish that are thrown back. Just wasteful but even worse no real strong conservation. There is one simple answer which fishermen resist. Fishing should be banned completely for the two months of the breeding season. Yes no fish being caught apart from fish farms . Every time a pregnant fish is caught hundreds of live eggs are lost . The fisherman say there’s plenty left but do you ever see a farmer take a pregnant cow to the market ? There’s only one or two calves there . The fish would stand a chance to breed and grow in numbers without the constant attacks. It’s simple but constantly rejected because of greed today. No thought for the future . Fishermen are their own worst enemy. " The conservation point is interesting and over fishing has been a problem. So if the British boats was the only boats in British waters they could catch at full capacity and still preserve the stocks | |||
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"And here it starts. No markets for our shell fish at the moment I know of a fisherman’s with 17kg of prawns in his keep pot that have been landed because there is no market for them outside of the Uk. Crazy times. " why not sell them in the uk | |||
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"There is a bigger prize here, fish for security. Give the french fishing rights, then they will increase security around the channel. I think the waters issue is a tactic to get the EU to increase border security to stop illegal immigrants from entering the country by sea." They seem to have done a shite job so far | |||
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"There is a good series on the BBC iplayer you can watch called Cornwall: This Fishing Life Obviously not the big deep sea fishing boats you have talked about but gives a good insight why UK fishermen voted for Brexit. Also in one episode you see a UK ship surrounded by French, Spanish and Norwegian fishing vessels off the coast of Cornwall. Plus the UK vessels having to throw different types of fish back into the sea because they have their quota but the foreign ships which are bigger are allowed to keep all their fish. The quota system inside or outside the EU is just a load of tosh. Quotas kill fish that are thrown back. Just wasteful but even worse no real strong conservation. There is one simple answer which fishermen resist. Fishing should be banned completely for the two months of the breeding season. Yes no fish being caught apart from fish farms . Every time a pregnant fish is caught hundreds of live eggs are lost . The fisherman say there’s plenty left but do you ever see a farmer take a pregnant cow to the market ? There’s only one or two calves there . The fish would stand a chance to breed and grow in numbers without the constant attacks. It’s simple but constantly rejected because of greed today. No thought for the future . Fishermen are their own worst enemy. Have a watch its very interesting. The fishermen tag their catch so customers know which ship catch the fish and what method. They also showed an oyster farm on the program but customers preferred the real thing. There was also a fish survey ship checking stock levels which were high and fish stocks getting bigger. I thought the biggest problem was although not aiming to catch a type of fish they do end up in the nets. But rather than being able to sell it and get a bit of money the fish has to be thrown back alive or dead. That's a total waste and disgrace. The ones that are alive grow to be caught again and the ones that are dead are food for other fish, no waste they are all dead when they go back in.seagull food."Seagull lives matter | |||
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"There is a bigger prize here, fish for security. Give the french fishing rights, then they will increase security around the channel. I think the waters issue is a tactic to get the EU to increase border security to stop illegal immigrants from entering the country by sea. They seem to have done a shite job so far "It’s cheaper to buy from abroad than buy local. most of our shell fish is exported. If you buy lobster in the Uk it is most likely to be Canadian. | |||
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"Just thought I’d make a comment to clear something up on our historic fishing. The U.K. did have a huge fishing fleets with hundreds of large ships based mostly in Grimsby and Hull. (1000 ships at one point) They had crews of between 15 and 30 guys so bigger than the ones fishing from around the small U.K. ports today. These fleets collapsed when we had the cod war with Iceland . The sad thing is we would still have them if our government hadn’t been so ignorant and stupid. Roy Hattersley turned down the annual quota offer from Iceland saying it wasn’t enough. So Iceland said ok fuck off and get nothing . The most laughable and sad thing is that the U.K. fishing fleet couldn’t physically catch what was offered in a year Hard working men lost everything because of the incompetence of our own government. Grimsby and Hull were devastated with tens of thousand of fisherman and engineers support staff etc on land being out of our work overnight. Nothing to do with the EU but maybe it will make a few memories of where fishing fleets went a bit clearer. That fish we used to catch off Iceland now arrives by container into Grimsby for processing and onward sales. well i agree that it was the government that fucked it because the quota was based on historic fishing and the uk was fishing more off of iceland.So when the quotas were dished out we were fucked as we were kicked out of iceland so had more history there than our own waters.Iceland managed to do it without to much fuss and i cant see why the uk cant too. " The stocks Iceland fishes remain mainly in Icelandic waters (except recently mackerel). Most stocks in UK waters are shared i.e. they move around areas like the North Sea during their lives - it is much more complex to manage shared stocks than ones which are entirely within ones Exclusive Economic Zone - so no I don't think it is that simple - sorry | |||
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"And the best of all is that the uk fishing industry is worth over £15 per person per year What would we do without it." How much is it worth to countries line France and Spain ect | |||
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"And the best of all is that the uk fishing industry is worth over £15 per person per year What would we do without it." You kinda made the point I was going to make..... I was going to ask what makes the uk economy more money.... fishing or farming Just because if it is fishing that was the hill brexiteers were prepared to die upon....... fishing is worth peanuts compared to agrifoods.... | |||
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"And the best of all is that the uk fishing industry is worth over £15 per person per year What would we do without it. You kinda made the point I was going to make..... I was going to ask what makes the uk economy more money.... fishing or farming Just because if it is fishing that was the hill brexiteers were prepared to die upon....... fishing is worth peanuts compared to agrifoods...." so why are france willing to have a no deal because of fishing? | |||
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"And the best of all is that the uk fishing industry is worth over £15 per person per year What would we do without it. You kinda made the point I was going to make..... I was going to ask what makes the uk economy more money.... fishing or farming Just because if it is fishing that was the hill brexiteers were prepared to die upon....... fishing is worth peanuts compared to agrifoods....so why are france willing to have a no deal because of fishing?" I see on the BBC today that France have threatened to veto any deal if they do not get their way on fishing rights. | |||
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"And the best of all is that the uk fishing industry is worth over £15 per person per year What would we do without it. You kinda made the point I was going to make..... I was going to ask what makes the uk economy more money.... fishing or farming Just because if it is fishing that was the hill brexiteers were prepared to die upon....... fishing is worth peanuts compared to agrifoods....so why are france willing to have a no deal because of fishing? I see on the BBC today that France have threatened to veto any deal if they do not get their way on fishing rights. " They like doing that (well macron)they veto,d the mecrosur deal that took 20 years to negotiate too . | |||
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"And the best of all is that the uk fishing industry is worth over £15 per person per year What would we do without it. You kinda made the point I was going to make..... I was going to ask what makes the uk economy more money.... fishing or farming Just because if it is fishing that was the hill brexiteers were prepared to die upon....... fishing is worth peanuts compared to agrifoods....so why are france willing to have a no deal because of fishing? I see on the BBC today that France have threatened to veto any deal if they do not get their way on fishing rights. They like doing that (well macron)they veto,d the mecrosur deal that took 20 years to negotiate too ." The rest of the EU countries will be really happy with them if they do veto it. I'm sure they will be delighted to loose jobs just to keep the French happy. The other thing of course is if they do veto the deal that means they loose all fishing right's in UK waters | |||
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"And the best of all is that the uk fishing industry is worth over £15 per person per year What would we do without it. You kinda made the point I was going to make..... I was going to ask what makes the uk economy more money.... fishing or farming Just because if it is fishing that was the hill brexiteers were prepared to die upon....... fishing is worth peanuts compared to agrifoods....so why are france willing to have a no deal because of fishing? I see on the BBC today that France have threatened to veto any deal if they do not get their way on fishing rights. They like doing that (well macron)they veto,d the mecrosur deal that took 20 years to negotiate too . The rest of the EU countries will be really happy with them if they do veto it. I'm sure they will be delighted to loose jobs just to keep the French happy. The other thing of course is if they do veto the deal that means they loose all fishing right's in UK waters" Exactly | |||
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"And the best of all is that the uk fishing industry is worth over £15 per person per year What would we do without it. You kinda made the point I was going to make..... I was going to ask what makes the uk economy more money.... fishing or farming Just because if it is fishing that was the hill brexiteers were prepared to die upon....... fishing is worth peanuts compared to agrifoods.... so why are france willing to have a no deal because of fishing?" Maybe fishing is worth far more to the French economy than it is to ours? | |||
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"And the best of all is that the uk fishing industry is worth over £15 per person per year What would we do without it. You kinda made the point I was going to make..... I was going to ask what makes the uk economy more money.... fishing or farming Just because if it is fishing that was the hill brexiteers were prepared to die upon....... fishing is worth peanuts compared to agrifoods.... so why are france willing to have a no deal because of fishing? Maybe fishing is worth far more to the French economy than it is to ours? " Maybe its because macron,s ratings are so low and he knows he wont win the next election he needs to look strong just like he is doing with the muslims. | |||
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"And the best of all is that the uk fishing industry is worth over £15 per person per year What would we do without it. You kinda made the point I was going to make..... I was going to ask what makes the uk economy more money.... fishing or farming Just because if it is fishing that was the hill brexiteers were prepared to die upon....... fishing is worth peanuts compared to agrifoods...." Principals are more important as money it seems. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 04/12/20 18:08:32]" If the french block our fish then we should block their wine and garlic. How ever you also forget if only UK fishing boats land fish in the UK then we will not have much to export as we can eat most of the fish caught in the UK here in the UK. The plus side is GB can also have lower cost of food as they will not have EU tariffs after 1st Jan pity boris sold us in Northern Ireland out to the EU on the off chance of them giving a fair deal. We are now facing EU tariffs on all goods including food some of which is at over 9% on our main supply route from the rest of the UK | |||
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"And the best of all is that the uk fishing industry is worth over £15 per person per year What would we do without it. You kinda made the point I was going to make..... I was going to ask what makes the uk economy more money.... fishing or farming Just because if it is fishing that was the hill brexiteers were prepared to die upon....... fishing is worth peanuts compared to agrifoods.... so why are france willing to have a no deal because of fishing? Maybe fishing is worth far more to the French economy than it is to ours? Maybe its because macron,s ratings are so low and he knows he wont win the next election he needs to look strong just like he is doing with the muslims." I must say I've no idea what Macron is doing with the Muslims, I wonder if they like it. | |||
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